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00:00:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> what I dont get is that it's only the first lane that is stacking trains, and the others have no problem at all 00:00:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol, we are causing more issues at slh 700 00:00:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you really think it is a failsafe? 00:00:31 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> the way it was arranged, it looked like a failsafe 00:01:11 <dashing> why does it say version mismatch ? 00:01:26 <Giddorah> You don't have the right version 00:01:27 <Giddorah> !dl 00:01:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> guess why :) 00:01:27 <PublicServer> Giddorah: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 00:01:33 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> take a guess 00:01:36 <Giddorah> Type !dl and the OS you're running 00:01:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> mäh 00:01:59 <Giddorah> And just extract the files into your OTTD-folder 00:02:10 <dashing> i have the newest version from official page 00:02:14 <Giddorah> Yes 00:02:17 <Giddorah> We're using a newer version 00:02:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats wrong :) 00:02:28 <dashing> :o 00:02:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are using older nightly of course 00:02:33 <Giddorah> We're newer than newest (a) 00:02:40 <V453000> @quickstart 00:02:43 <V453000> ^ 00:02:44 <Giddorah> Oh? Aren't we running newer nightlies? 00:02:48 <V453000> oh wiki is down 00:02:50 <V453000> god damn 00:02:51 <Webster> timed out - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 00:02:53 <V453000> just write !dl 00:02:59 <dashing> !dl 00:02:59 <PublicServer> dashing: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 00:03:08 <V453000> now choose 00:03:19 <dashing> im using xp 00:03:25 <dashing> !dl win32 00:03:25 <PublicServer> dashing: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19523/openttd-trunk-r19523-windows-win32.zip 00:03:26 <Giddorah> So choose win32 00:03:30 <V453000> pwned 00:03:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> grrr 00:03:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> too much traffic 00:03:57 <PublicServer> <Razaekel> i guess it's too dense to try and fit a SML in there? 00:03:58 <dashing> will that wreck my single player savegame ? 00:04:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> why that? 00:04:12 <Giddorah> Well... Just copy your installation to a new folder called OpenTTDCoop or something 00:04:17 <Giddorah> And extract things there 00:04:22 <Giddorah> To make sure nothing breaks 00:04:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> dashing: you can have two copies (or even three) of openttd 00:04:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> now this was brainded solution :D 00:04:52 <V453000> Raz: no SML ever here 00:04:52 <Giddorah> I've got OpenTTD, OpenTTDCoop and OpenTTDCargodest :P 00:05:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> finally, bridge problem solved 00:05:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats not safe 00:05:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> aslmost 00:05:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> it goes of too early 00:05:54 <dashing> now it says a different number on server version 00:05:56 <Giddorah> !screen 00:05:58 <PublicServer> *** Giddorah made screenshot at 000398D2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000398D2.png 00:06:14 <dashing> when i start 1.0.0 i see the r19523 server 00:06:16 <Giddorah> dashing? 00:06:24 <dashing> but when i start r19523 it says the server is 1.0.0 00:06:24 <Giddorah> Don't start 1.0.0 00:06:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> come on 00:06:35 <dashing> so its like a catch 22 00:06:36 <Ammler> :-D 00:06:52 <PublicServer> *** Razaekel has left the game (connection lost) 00:06:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> just place many presignals and remove when need :p 00:07:01 <Giddorah> Did you copy your old installation before extracting your files too it? 00:07:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf... 00:07:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> trainlimit 00:07:20 <dashing> just gfx and sound folder 00:07:24 <Ammler> currently there are 3 #openttdcoop servers running... 00:07:25 <V453000> !trains 3005 00:07:25 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set max_trains to 3005 00:07:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 00:07:41 <Ammler> bigger parking lot? 00:07:49 <Giddorah> !status 00:07:56 <Ammler> !info 00:07:57 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'We Know No Orders unLTD.' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 23390831364 Loan: 0 Value: 23407803375 (T:3005, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 00:07:57 <dashing> aha its not even on the list now 00:07:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 00:08:01 <Giddorah> Ah :P 00:08:02 <dashing> i only see prozone and welcome stable 00:08:05 <V453000> stop omg 00:08:07 <V453000> idiot 00:08:12 <Giddorah> dashing: Aight 00:08:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 00:08:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> wth 00:08:31 <Ammler> !trains 0 00:08:31 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has set max_trains to 0 00:08:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like that train loves rock 00:09:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> too early :( 00:09:04 <Ammler> does this game count for @records? 00:09:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> V453000 is blowing these changes up :p 00:09:49 <Ammler> avdg: coud you estimate how many trains drive, how many wait? 00:10:06 <dashing> so i cant spectate the game ? 00:10:14 <Giddorah> !ip 00:10:14 <PublicServer> Giddorah: ps.openttdcoop.org 00:10:22 <Ammler> dashing: if you add the server manually? 00:10:23 <Giddorah> dashing: Just add that to the servers list 00:10:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> at least 60% driving 00:10:29 <planetmaker> dashing: why couldn't you? 00:11:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> its fine now 00:11:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> just mini-optimizing 00:11:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00039CD1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00039CD1.png 00:11:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> V453000: you are making stuff too complex 00:12:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 00:12:12 <dashing> planetmaker when i start 1.0.0 i see the public server, when i start r19523 i dont :) 00:12:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> you are adding unneeded stuff 00:12:17 <dashing> but i see it now after manually adding 00:12:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> wich is doing nothing 00:12:23 <Giddorah> dashing: Add the addie 00:12:38 <dashing> now it says newgrf mismatch 00:12:44 <Giddorah> Get GRF Online 00:12:54 <mrruben5> !grf 00:12:55 <PublicServer> mrruben5: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 7.3) 00:12:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> why do you need that junky train? 00:12:59 <Giddorah> Btw... This game is VERY heavy... So you better have a good connection and computer :P 00:13:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> to ensure train stops at the accel 00:13:13 <Ammler> http://openttdcoop.org/newgrfs 00:13:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> it does nothing 00:13:25 <Ammler> wiki/blog is down 00:13:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats not guarantee 00:13:30 <dashing> ok i clicked on newgrf settings 00:13:30 <Ammler> or is it up again? 00:13:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> because if there is green and train is already at fullspeed, it fails 00:13:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 00:13:35 <dashing> then i click find missing content online ? 00:13:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have it tested 00:13:43 <Giddorah> dashing: Yes sir 00:14:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> the prio must be 1 - 2 tiles longer 00:14:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> works 00:14:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> now it worked 00:14:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 00:14:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it has to 00:15:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 00:15:38 <dashing> didnt seem it worked 00:15:47 <dashing> i downloaded 1,8 mb of stuff but still grf mismatch 00:15:52 <Ammler> dashing: which grf is missing? 00:15:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> ok it works 00:16:09 <Ammler> !url 00:16:09 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/ 00:16:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure 00:16:12 <dashing> the red squares is stuff that is missing ? 00:16:17 <Ammler> yes 00:16:17 <Giddorah> dashing: Yes 00:16:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> but ... acceptable I guess 00:16:24 <dashing> then i miss a lot :D 00:16:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 00:16:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> fails :p 00:16:34 <Ammler> dashing: the pack maybe? 00:16:37 <Giddorah> dashing: Did you check all the boxes for download? 00:16:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> add 1 tile 00:16:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats safe enough 00:17:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> a small deacc isn't bad, caus it fill gaps 00:17:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> *cause 00:17:34 <dashing> guess i will download manually from that url then 00:17:40 <dashing> http://openttdcoop.org/newgrfs/ i mean 00:17:51 <Giddorah> dashing: Get the pack 00:18:16 <dashing> ottdc_grfpack_7.3.7z ? 00:18:26 <Giddorah> You on Linux? 00:18:30 <dashing> xp 00:18:39 <Giddorah> Isn't there a zip? 00:18:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> fair enough 00:19:02 <dashing> ottdc_grfpack_7.3.zip 00:19:06 <Giddorah> Get that 00:19:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok now the prio worked 00:19:29 <dashing> DLing it now 00:19:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be fine 00:19:34 <Ammler> 7z is fine 30% less :-) 00:19:51 <Giddorah> You use winrar to unzip dashing? 00:20:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> nice close injection :) 00:20:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> I added one tile 00:20:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> hard to get closer 00:20:27 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> or just use 7-zip 00:20:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is 100% clean 00:20:51 <dashing> i have winrar, winzip, 7zip, winace, etc 00:20:56 <Giddorah> Haha 00:20:59 <Giddorah> Crazy person 00:21:00 <Giddorah> :P 00:21:03 <dashing> :) 00:21:12 <dashing> it didnt work though 00:21:18 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> 7-zip can handle them all 00:21:19 <dashing> grr 00:21:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> what are you missing now? 00:21:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> dashing: if you like more experiments, try cli :) 00:21:28 <Giddorah> You do know winrar and 7zip can unpack most compressed folders right? :P 00:21:39 <dashing> still the same red squares 00:21:54 <Giddorah> Where did you unpack the grf-files? 00:21:56 <dashing> everything got unzipped into ottdc_grfpack folder 00:22:11 <Giddorah> And you have restarted OTTD? 00:22:18 <dashing> yeah 00:22:29 <Giddorah> So where is it unzipped? 00:22:29 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> move the 00:22:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> its fine 00:22:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> leave it 00:22:50 <dashing> ttd folder\ottdc_grfpack 00:23:04 <Giddorah> Move it to the data-folder 00:23:07 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> personally I have the grf's under my documents/openttd/content_download/data 00:23:25 <Ammler> mrruben5: not the pack 00:23:38 <Ammler> the pack "belongs" to mydocs/openttd/data/ 00:23:49 <dashing> moving the ottdc folder to under \data worked :) 00:23:59 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ah yes 00:24:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> what ammler says 00:24:07 <dashing> now the error message says password protected :p 00:24:11 <Giddorah> !password 00:24:12 <PublicServer> Giddorah: colder 00:24:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 00:24:27 <Ammler> dashing: you are lucky, wiki is down :-P 00:24:30 <mrruben5> !password 00:24:30 <PublicServer> mrruben5: colder 00:24:34 <Giddorah> It changes... So when you want in the next time... Just type !password 00:24:34 <mrruben5> ... :) 00:24:35 <PublicServer> *** dashing joined the game 00:24:37 <V453000> Ammler: +1 00:24:38 <Giddorah> And it'll show up here 00:24:40 <Ammler> so we can't blame you for not reading the docs 00:24:43 <Giddorah> Welcome aboard dashing :) 00:24:48 <dashing> im in :D 00:24:50 <dashing> thanks 00:25:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome among the insane 00:25:04 <Giddorah> And when the Wiki gets back up... Read everything you can ;) 00:25:11 <Giddorah> Helped me ALOT 00:25:16 <dashing> and am greeted by what looks like a river of trains 00:25:16 <V453000> @slowstart 00:25:16 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 00:25:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi dashed 00:25:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> *dashing 00:25:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> dash or be dashed 00:25:49 <PublicServer> <dashing> my brain hurts 00:25:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> or using dash :p 00:25:54 <Giddorah> Your looks are just... Dashing! 00:25:55 <PublicServer> <dashing> what have you done to the poor game 00:26:02 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> lol :D 00:26:09 <PublicServer> * V453000 isnt responsible! 00:26:10 <PublicServer> <dashing> haha giddorah 00:26:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> abuse it :p 00:26:13 <Giddorah> dashing: If you see something that just... Doesn't make sense... Blame V 00:26:20 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> go scroll to the top left and then a bit right 00:26:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00038CCD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00038CCD.png 00:26:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> dashing: zoom out and you get a nice view :p 00:27:04 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> no don't XD 00:27:09 <PublicServer> <dashing> dear lord 00:27:11 <PublicServer> <dashing> this is madness 00:27:18 <Giddorah> No... This is SPARTA! 00:27:21 <PublicServer> * V453000 is silent 00:27:25 <PublicServer> <dashing> hihi 00:27:26 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> no, this is caketown 00:27:43 <Giddorah> No, this is TT-Coop at 2:28AM 00:27:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> im now zoomed out :) 00:27:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> damnit 00:28:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont tell me the time 00:28:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> ever 00:28:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> not that hard 00:28:17 <Giddorah> I didn't say what timezone I was in ;) 00:28:19 <PublicServer> <dashing> what are those stations that looks like barns along the middle west edge ? 00:28:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> just random stations 00:28:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> does it have any signs? 00:28:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> created by luck, no brain really 00:28:47 <PublicServer> <dashing> drop a02 00:28:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> the orange labels with white text on it 00:29:01 <PublicServer> <dashing> added some penalties 00:29:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> dashing: why not follo a train? 00:29:11 <Giddorah> Oh, those are just newgrf-stations 00:29:23 <Giddorah> You can choose graphics for the stations 00:29:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> you can make the window bigger 00:29:32 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> they are drop off stations for trains carrying wood 00:29:39 <PublicServer> <dashing> yeah my window is 1900x1200 00:29:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 00:29:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> same here :P 00:29:57 <Giddorah> Samsung monitor? 00:30:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> 1280x800 here 00:30:05 <PublicServer> <dashing> yeah 00:30:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1440x900 :) ideal 00:30:10 <Giddorah> 1920x1080 here 00:30:14 <PublicServer> <dashing> a 2493HM 00:30:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> iMac!!! 00:30:21 <PublicServer> <dashing> wonderful monitor 00:30:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> macBook! 00:30:25 <Giddorah> mrruben5: What's your cpu-usage? 00:30:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 00:30:36 <PublicServer> <dashing> cost me like 1k euro tho :/ 00:30:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> depends on which part I'm viewing 00:30:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> from inside 00:31:52 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> HAH cpu usage at 120% totally zoomed out 00:32:01 <Giddorah> That's just awful! 00:32:08 <Giddorah> How come OTTD runs so poorly on Mac's? 00:32:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> blame the game :P 00:32:15 <Giddorah> I max out on 35% 00:32:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> blame Macs 00:32:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> limited maintaned 00:32:25 <Giddorah> On ONE core that is 00:32:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> openttd needs a maintainer for the mac 00:33:12 <PublicServer> <dashing> you should upgrade the network to maglev to be honest :D 00:33:17 <Giddorah> Ewww 00:33:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> it is maglev :P 00:33:24 <Giddorah> Nobody likes maglevs 00:33:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> dashing: check our trains 00:33:28 <Giddorah> Railroads ftw 00:33:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> these are lev3 00:33:39 <PublicServer> <dashing> doesnt look like maglev :o 00:33:39 <V453000> rofl Dashing :D this failed 00:36:00 <PublicServer> <dashing> how are the stations made so big 00:36:05 <PublicServer> <dashing> like taking an entire screen 00:36:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> by planning 00:36:16 <Giddorah> Station spread-settings 00:36:25 <PublicServer> <dashing> no i mean they are bigger than 7x7 00:36:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ctrl click when building a station 00:36:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> > settings 00:36:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ah, thats because of openttd :P 00:37:00 <PublicServer> <dashing> guess i gotta learn how to do that 00:37:01 <Giddorah> "Because" sound so negative :P 00:37:03 <Giddorah> "thanks to" :) 00:37:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> dashing: there is an option "Drag n Drop" 00:37:21 <PublicServer> <dashing> aha 00:37:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> dashing: play with all options 00:37:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of the 1->7 00:38:24 *** Polygon has quit IRC 00:38:46 <mrruben5> pfft, germans 00:40:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I'm still gasping at the shredder :) 00:40:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 00:40:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> me too 00:40:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> it also works very well :) 00:40:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> its like a casino game :p 00:40:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> true :D 00:40:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> or better sayed luna game 00:41:02 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> but split 07 is efficient too 00:41:13 <PublicServer> <dashing> those spinny things with 2 engines going in circle constantly are hillarious 00:41:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, both are similar time 00:41:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> *type 00:41:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> brain = off 00:41:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> laugh at it, but they are really hard needed 00:41:54 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> dashing: logic trains :P I also don't get how they work... but it has to do with signal abusing 00:42:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> i guess "!not gate disassembled" is also too hard to understand :p 00:42:47 <Razaekel> pretty much 00:47:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 00:47:13 <V453000> shud B fine 00:47:39 <V453000> @stage everyone getting hypnotized by stuff on the map 00:47:40 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: everyone getting hypnotized by stuff on the map | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 00:47:46 <V453000> :P ok not 00:47:52 <V453000> @stage finalizing 00:47:53 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19523) | STAGE: finalizing | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 00:48:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> do "wich stage?" 00:48:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 00:48:12 <V453000> ignore me :) 00:48:39 <V453000> but if last game had Hypnotizer, then this game IS Hypnotizer 00:49:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> look at the magic sync trains 1 houre long then :p 00:49:19 <V453000> they suck ... windmill looks nice 00:49:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 00:49:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> the sync magic trains are for getting you dizzly 00:50:04 <V453000> :) 00:50:16 <V453000> @coopstats 00:50:17 <Webster> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats.html 00:50:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> aha, i'm raising in the stats :p 00:51:35 <V453000> -.- me too 00:51:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 00:52:20 <PublicServer> <avdg> check most refered nicks 00:52:26 <V453000> I know 00:52:39 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> "lol" 00:52:44 <V453000> http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/stats30.html this pwns 00:52:45 <Webster> Title: #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster (at hyru.ath.cx:60080) 00:52:46 <V453000> D: 00:55:10 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (connection lost) 00:55:24 <dashing> well that was interesting 00:55:27 <dashing> and a bit scary 00:55:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> its high lvl 00:55:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> but its not the top yet 00:55:52 <dashing> :D 00:56:04 <dashing> good luck with your sanity 00:56:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> you can even build pc's with it 00:56:07 <dashing> and good night :) 00:56:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn 00:56:14 <V453000> sanity? 00:56:18 <V453000> what? 00:56:21 <V453000> ... night ;) 00:56:25 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> you mean insanity!! 00:56:28 <dashing> watching them loop 00:56:31 <dashing> over and over 00:56:34 <dashing> and over 00:56:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 00:56:45 *** dashing has quit IRC 00:56:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> these are designed with caution 00:57:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001ED21: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0001ED21.png 00:57:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> and time 00:57:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I'm about to head to bed as well I guess 00:57:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> gn 00:57:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> and last edited by me :p 00:57:52 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 00:57:53 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 00:57:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> gn folks 00:58:02 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 00:58:25 <V453000> cya 00:58:26 <V453000> im off 00:58:30 <V453000> maniacs ... :P 00:58:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> me too 00:58:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> this game simply rules :) 00:58:47 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 00:58:51 <V453000> kix@$$ 00:59:14 <V453000> by 01:00:34 *** avdg has quit IRC 01:00:37 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 01:22:34 *** OwenS has quit IRC 03:02:10 *** Fuco has quit IRC 03:05:07 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 03:06:55 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:07:00 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:38:50 *** De_Ghosty has quit IRC 03:39:47 *** De_Ghosty has joined #openttdcoop 05:15:00 *** Giddorah has quit IRC 05:17:57 <De_Ghosty> !wiki 05:17:57 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page 05:20:56 <De_Ghosty> !archive 05:20:56 <PublicServer> De_Ghosty: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 05:24:27 *** nighthawk_c_m has joined #openttdcoop 05:48:17 <nighthawk_c_m> whats wrong with the wikki at the moment? doesnt seem to load any pages 05:52:10 *** nighthawkcm has joined #openttdcoop 05:59:37 *** nighthawk_c_m has quit IRC 06:20:19 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 06:20:20 <Webster> Welcome back, Peter! 06:21:36 <nighthawkcm> mornin PeterT 06:22:46 <nighthawkcm> if I have 4 trains ina waiting bay standing ready to grab the plattform as soon as its free, they tend to suddenly turn a round and try to find a different route, any way to prevent this? - they cant leave their assigned waiting space, its just annoying to look at 06:25:41 <De_Ghosty> make a bigger platform 06:26:00 <nighthawkcm> thats not the goal 06:26:08 <De_Ghosty> one way signal 06:26:14 <De_Ghosty> or u have to change wait time 06:26:19 <De_Ghosty> don't know the console command 06:27:25 <nighthawkcm> anyone know? 06:27:45 *** ANDREW_ has joined #openttdcoop 06:30:21 *** snc has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:16 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:35:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:05:25 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 07:11:14 *** tneo has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** Osai has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 07:11:14 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 07:13:33 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:13:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:13:59 *** dih2 has joined #openttdcoop 07:14:09 <dih2> @seen Osai 07:14:09 <Webster> dih2: Osai was last seen in #openttdcoop 8 weeks, 1 day, 12 hours, and 56 seconds ago: <Osai> !password 07:14:13 <dih2> fuck 07:14:57 <De_Ghosty> he died 07:14:59 <De_Ghosty> :o 07:15:02 <dih2> any of je admins can tell me if Osai is bound to be contactable? 07:15:08 <dih2> De_Ghosty: NOT FUNNY 07:15:17 <dih2> something like that happens faster than you know 07:15:25 <ODM> isnt he still at the kendo tournament? 07:15:28 <ODM> or is that over 07:15:34 <ODM> also, hey dih2 07:15:42 <dih2> hey ODM 07:16:00 <dih2> i need a server restart ^^ 07:16:04 <ODM> heh 07:16:12 <ODM> i dont have a way to contact him, sorry 07:16:20 <dih2> i need to move to another server i think :-P 07:16:41 <dih2> i have his mobile phone number, i am just not sure where he is, if i can call him at this time of the day... 07:17:10 <De_Ghosty> txt msg? 07:17:17 <De_Ghosty> roaming is usally free to recieve 07:18:06 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 07:21:23 <dih2> well - i already appologize for the downtime 07:22:40 <ODM> did a server go down? 07:22:49 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:23:18 *** einKarl has joined #openttdcoop 07:26:41 <dih2> not exactly 07:26:58 <dih2> too many processes spawned in a virtuozo vm 07:27:05 <dih2> that's a killer 07:27:30 <dih2> i really dislike virtuozo or what ever that thing is called 07:28:30 <ODM> hm 07:28:38 <ODM> do we run anything on that server aswell? 07:28:38 <dih2> anywhay - i am off 07:28:43 <ODM> sites here seem dead 07:28:45 <dih2> yarp 07:28:46 <ODM> aight take care mate! 07:28:59 <dih2> wiki, blog, at least i think that's what you run there 07:29:11 <dih2> + some people connect to that znc 07:29:13 <ODM> that explains:P 07:29:33 <dih2> i think i'll move to a root server or colocated server again 07:29:43 <dih2> i really dislike this ^^ 07:30:07 <dih2> a dual nehalem server with esx-i .... uh - a dream ^^ 07:30:13 <dih2> byes 07:30:15 <ODM> expensive i think 07:30:21 *** dih2 has quit IRC 07:50:45 *** einKarl has quit IRC 08:13:46 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 08:13:46 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 08:24:17 *** ANDREW_ has quit IRC 09:01:07 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 09:02:07 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 09:02:22 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 09:06:24 *** dihedral has joined #openttdcoop 09:06:36 *** dihedral is now known as dih2 09:07:43 <XeryusTC> Ammler: bouncer seems to be down 09:08:07 <dih2> server seems to be not responding at all 09:08:13 <dih2> and osai aint there to restart it! 09:08:23 <XeryusTC> zomfg! 09:08:31 <XeryusTC> also, who left only osai in charge 09:08:37 <XeryusTC> he's never around :( 09:08:51 <dih2> i doubt he would give you those login datails ;-) 09:08:54 <dih2> trust me on that one 09:09:16 <XeryusTC> i'm not saying that he should give them to me 09:09:24 <dih2> i am checking to see if i ever had those details myself 09:09:25 <XeryusTC> give them to Ammler, the admin who is always around ;) 09:09:31 <dih2> nope 09:09:56 <dih2> either osai or me, as we are the ones paying for that box 09:10:53 <XeryusTC> hasnt everything been placed on some Ammler controlled machine? 09:10:55 <dih2> i'll try to give them a call and see what i can do 09:10:57 <XeryusTC> like the blog and wiki 09:11:08 <dih2> i have no idea where blog and wiki are 09:11:19 <dih2> i only know the bouncer is on osai's and my vps 09:11:33 <dih2> and that little biest died 09:11:54 <XeryusTC> hmm, i thought Ammler planned on moving the bouncer too :o 09:12:07 <XeryusTC> @op 09:12:13 <XeryusTC> @whoami 09:12:13 <Webster> XeryusTC: I don't recognize you. 09:12:26 <XeryusTC> @op 09:12:26 *** Webster sets mode: +o XeryusTC 09:12:56 <XeryusTC> @kick PeterT just demonstrating what i just did to my friend ;) 09:12:56 *** PeterT was kicked by Webster (just demonstrating what i just did to my friend ;)) 09:13:15 <XeryusTC> oh, his autorejoin dissapeared 09:14:45 <V453000> rofl :D 09:14:58 <XeryusTC> hey V453000 :) 09:15:01 <V453000> hi 09:15:09 <V453000> everything broken atm? 09:15:13 <XeryusTC> seems so 09:15:18 <V453000> =( 09:15:21 <XeryusTC> feel like finishing the game today? 09:15:24 <V453000> yes 09:15:26 <V453000> absolutely 09:15:34 <V453000> it is almost done already 09:15:37 <XeryusTC> good :D 09:15:46 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 09:15:50 <XeryusTC> there is no point in running it any longer anyway 09:15:51 <V453000> I have the archive written alteady 09:15:53 <XeryusTC> not much which can be done 09:15:54 <V453000> ye 09:16:08 <V453000> we tried to finalize yesterday already 09:16:25 <V453000> im coming in 09:16:26 <V453000> :p 09:16:29 <V453000> !password 09:16:29 <PublicServer> V453000: beacon 09:16:31 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh noes 09:16:33 <PublicServer> * XeryusTC runs 09:16:57 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 09:16:58 <V453000> :D 09:16:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:17:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, it starts to run slightly choppy :o 09:17:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> the archive pic was voted ML Split 06 ... jsut so you know :P 09:17:41 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> oh, ok xD 09:18:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> S-s-s-l-i-i-i-i-g-g-g-h-h-t-l-y, , yye-e-s 09:18:07 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 09:18:23 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 09:18:31 <avdg> !players 09:18:32 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 1320 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (We Know No Orders unLTD.) 09:18:32 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 1322 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (We Know No Orders unLTD.) 09:18:37 <avdg> hey 09:18:40 <V453000> hy 09:18:46 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ello 09:20:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. I realy found your e-mail about the engine reversing :D from June 2009 09:20:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> that's not too long ago 09:20:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I was also surprised 09:20:44 <avdg> hmm 09:20:48 <avdg> nvm 09:20:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> but from that date I alraedy have some good savegames ... 09:20:53 <avdg> !password 09:20:53 <PublicServer> avdg: beacon 09:21:00 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Droningdore Woods could do with an upgrade 09:21:00 *** avdg has quit IRC 09:21:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> just didnt know how to reverse :) 09:21:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> almost 5k waiting 09:21:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 09:21:09 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 09:21:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> but ML probably couldnt 09:21:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 09:21:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> today it seems better 09:21:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> yesterday we had jams on joins 09:21:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, ok :o 09:21:57 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> SLs have too little throughput now :( 09:22:17 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 09:22:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets stick with "this game is successfuly done ;)" 09:23:18 <V453000> and I have lags like hell 09:23:36 <PublicServer> * avdg not, even when bit zoomed out 09:24:11 <ODM> you have lags? like one lag, two lags?:P 09:24:25 <V453000> well 09:24:26 <dih2> server is on its way up again 09:24:27 <V453000> many 09:24:36 <V453000> but many separated :P so lags 09:24:38 <ODM> you found the info dih? 09:24:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> howmuch load on the server? 09:26:12 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:27:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000051EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000051EB.png 09:27:45 <avdg> :p 09:28:44 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 09:29:58 *** owenshep has joined #openttdcoop 09:30:19 *** owenshep is now known as OwenS 09:30:52 <dih2> just building the newest version of znc now 09:31:39 <XeryusTC> !archive 09:31:39 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 09:33:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> builders board is longer now :) 09:34:52 <avdg> !screen 09:34:54 <PublicServer> *** avdg made screenshot at 000049E8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000049E8.png 09:35:10 <avdg> nice screenshot :p 09:35:13 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 09:35:13 *** Webster sets mode: +o Osai 09:36:11 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 09:36:12 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 09:36:25 <dih2> there you go 09:37:42 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 09:37:42 *** Webster sets mode: +o tneo 09:41:00 <V453000> awsom 09:41:07 <V453000> lets finish the archive 09:41:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> still some issues? 09:41:42 *** Osai has quit IRC 09:41:42 *** SmatZ has quit IRC 09:41:42 *** tneo has quit IRC 09:41:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> i've just fixed 1 more signalgap 09:42:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E811: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002E811.png 09:42:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 09:44:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> stopid jam :/ 09:44:19 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai 09:44:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno if fix needed 09:44:27 <dih2> grrr 09:44:35 *** dih2 has quit IRC 09:44:49 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 09:44:53 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 09:47:49 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 09:47:49 *** Webster sets mode: +o tneo 09:50:06 <leg3nd> my name is wrong on that screenshot :> 09:50:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> k fixed 09:50:34 <leg3nd> thx avdg :> 09:50:35 <avdg> !screen 09:50:37 <PublicServer> *** avdg made screenshot at 000051E9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000051E9.png 09:51:09 <XeryusTC> has anything been agreed on for a new game yet? 09:51:56 <V453000> there is a toyland map 09:52:02 <avdg> :D 09:52:18 <avdg> you really are a devil :p 09:52:35 <V453000> @psgsave 180 09:52:35 <Webster> PSG 180 Archive entry; http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive_-_Games_171_-_180#gameid_180 09:52:58 <V453000> any comments or corrections on the entry? :) 09:53:05 <V453000> did I forget anyones name? 09:53:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> wait 09:53:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> headshot isn't on the list 09:54:02 <V453000> !password 09:54:02 <PublicServer> V453000: thighs 09:54:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:54:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 09:54:24 <leg3nd> me 09:54:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok I will extend the list 09:54:31 <leg3nd> but i havent build much V :> 09:54:33 <avdg> !screen 09:54:33 <PublicServer> *** avdg liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 09:54:34 <leg3nd> so its okay :> 09:54:45 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 09:54:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 09:54:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> you did 09:55:16 <leg3nd> well did copy alot :> 09:55:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> counts 09:55:28 <avdg> :) 09:55:40 <leg3nd> hehe well then u have forgotten me :> 09:55:42 <V453000> definitly enough to be on the builders board ;) 09:55:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> can you still resave V453000? 09:55:51 <V453000> yes, avdg, I am adding the names 09:56:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 09:56:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> did tneo build something? 09:56:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> i only see him on the voting board 09:56:59 <XeryusTC> probably not 09:57:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000071F3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000071F3.png 09:57:16 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 09:57:39 *** XeryusTC2 has joined #openttdcoop 09:59:31 <leg3nd> btw V have added my self to the wiki 09:59:34 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 09:59:42 <leg3nd> if u wanna link to that account. 09:59:44 <V453000> ? 10:00:01 <V453000> it is linked 10:00:04 <V453000> that is auto 10:00:25 <leg3nd> it works :> 10:00:33 <V453000> right 10:00:34 <leg3nd> great. the game 179 i used leg. 10:00:39 <leg3nd> but dosent matter :> 10:01:08 <V453000> I corrected it for you 10:01:20 <leg3nd> thx m8. 10:01:52 <V453000> XeryusTC: end? 10:03:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like 10:03:20 <XeryusTC> V453000: end! 10:03:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:03:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> if I had more 'eyes' here we could splatsh more final bugs :p 10:03:43 <V453000> fine: so thanks everyone for participating :) this was awesome 10:03:57 <V453000> !save 10:03:57 <PublicServer> Saving game... 10:04:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 10:04:25 <V453000> oh damn I dont have here my guide how to start a new game :D XeryusTC: could you do it pls? 10:04:32 <V453000> I dont remember it 10:04:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> I have a good feeling left about this game 10:06:54 <XeryusTC> hmm 10:07:52 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: you are not allowed to use !rcon 10:07:56 <XeryusTC> @op 10:07:56 *** Webster sets mode: +o XeryusTC 10:08:08 <XeryusTC> game saved 10:08:10 <XeryusTC> ? 10:08:25 <XeryusTC> !save psg180final 10:08:25 <PublicServer> Saving game... 10:08:35 <avdg> k, its finished for me 10:10:33 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 10:10:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 10:10:44 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 10:10:49 <avdg> !players 10:10:51 <PublicServer> avdg: There are currently no clients connected to the server 10:12:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00020978: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00020978.png 10:13:07 <Ammler> !transfer 10:13:07 <PublicServer> Ammler: !transfer gamenr save: transfer the save to our web 10:15:07 <V453000> this, am I right? !transfer 180 game.sav 10:15:33 <avdg> !archive 10:15:33 <PublicServer> avdg: http://www.openttdcoop.ORG/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive 10:15:49 <Ammler> it does tell you, if not... 10:15:58 <avdg> hmm saves archive? 10:16:32 <Ammler> Heya all (btw.) 10:16:41 <V453000> ellow Ammler 10:17:06 <V453000> !transfer 180 game.sav 10:17:08 <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_180_Final.sav 10:17:08 <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/website/public/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_180_Final.sav) 10:17:14 <V453000> yaaa 10:17:47 <avdg> :) 10:18:52 <V453000> ok thats all from me :-D I would fuck up everything else 10:18:58 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 10:19:40 <avdg> why the double slash? 10:20:56 <Ammler> why do you care? 10:21:21 <avdg> because I see it 10:21:32 <Ammler> :-) 10:29:31 <V453000> emm 10:29:37 <V453000> shouldnt the server exit? 10:33:58 <avdg> we could wait till the server is crashed :) 10:35:52 <Ammler> why should the server exit? 10:36:00 <Ammler> you want update it? 10:37:30 <Ammler> update running... 10:38:41 <V453000> I dont know ... I thought it exits after transfer ... but that is just the fact that we often update after transfer, I guess 10:38:41 *** avdg has quit IRC 10:38:54 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 10:46:09 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 10:46:12 <PublicServer> Server has exited 10:46:13 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 10:47:02 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 10:47:02 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 10:47:02 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 10:47:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 10:47:02 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #180 (r19594) | STAGE: finalizing | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 10:47:13 <Ammler> !info 10:47:13 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Blue) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 100000 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 10:47:21 <Ammler> @setpsg 181 10:47:21 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: finalizing | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 10:48:13 <Ammler> @stage mm & planning 10:48:13 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: mm & planning | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 10:48:47 <Ammler> !tweet just started Game 181, join for planning. 10:48:47 <PublicServer> Ammler: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 10:48:54 <nighthawkcm> Oh, PSG 181 started? 10:49:07 <Ammler> no, I am just joking :-P 10:49:21 <avdg> lets update the binaries :) 10:49:26 <nighthawkcm> :-P 10:50:05 <nighthawkcm> Stupid questionm, but since the wiki is not working for me at the moment, for whatever reason, what does one need to be / bring to help/aid in a PSG? 10:51:02 <Ammler> the wiki is back since around 9 o'clock 10:52:21 <avdg> doesn't look good… again compile warnings 10:52:40 <nighthawkcm> so if I understand it right from the wiki everyone may join and participate, given one obeys the building guidlines and so on 10:52:46 <Ammler> what silly patches do you use? 10:53:07 <Ammler> nighthawkcm: yep, everyone is welcome on the public server 10:53:51 <nighthawkcm> iN THAT CASE i WILL TRY TO PARTICIPATE UNTILL MY NETWORK CONNECTION FAILS ME :: ON psg !(= i COULDNT WATCH ON THE SERVER DUE TO A LACK OF BANDWITH i GUESS 10:53:58 <nighthawkcm> oh damn you capslock 10:54:17 <Ammler> yeah, we believe you without screaming 10:54:30 <ODM> !password 10:54:30 <PublicServer> ODM: flails 10:54:52 <nighthawkcm> sorry for the caps, that was not intended 10:55:01 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 10:55:08 <PublicServer> <0DM> oh this is gonna hurt 10:55:33 <PublicServer> <0DM> default trains?^^ 10:55:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> thisll be fun 10:56:13 <avdg> !password 10:56:13 <PublicServer> avdg: flails 10:56:21 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 10:56:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 10:56:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> why blue? 10:56:43 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 10:56:49 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 10:57:30 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 10:57:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> good question 10:57:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> ah there we go 10:57:36 <PublicServer> <sonic> morning 10:57:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> ellow sonic 10:58:09 <PublicServer> <0DM> why are we still paused?^^ 10:58:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> someone set it on pauze 10:58:46 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 10:59:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> now I'm confused 10:59:06 <snc> @records 10:59:06 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2000 (PSG#131) - 2522 (PZG#5) | Single cargo output: 100,983 (PSG#176) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 10:59:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno what to connect with what 10:59:26 <snc> aww :( 10:59:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> is everyone else as baffled by toyland as me? 10:59:41 <avdg> :) trains record not updated 10:59:50 <ODM> !autopause 10:59:52 <nighthawkcm> Oh, I never used that kind of landscape so far .... 10:59:56 <ODM> hm i cant remember it:D 11:00:11 <avdg> previous game had 3005 trains 11:00:27 <avdg> im off.. dinner 11:00:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> cya 11:00:37 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 11:01:01 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 11:01:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 11:01:18 <ODM> KenjiE20!:P 11:01:25 <KenjiE20> oh god 11:01:29 <ODM> :( 11:01:31 <Ammler> avdg: only running and loading trains count ;-) 11:01:42 <KenjiE20> :P 11:01:53 <ODM> so... whats the autopause command again?:$ 11:02:01 <KenjiE20> !auto 11:02:01 <PublicServer> *** KenjiE20 has enabled autopause mode. 11:02:05 <KenjiE20> that one? 11:02:08 <avdg> ammler: we had more then 2100 running trains 11:02:13 <ODM> hm still paused 11:02:19 <KenjiE20> !rcon unpause 11:02:37 <KenjiE20> which map got loaded? 11:02:45 <PublicServer> <0DM> toyland 11:02:49 <KenjiE20> ah 11:03:31 * KenjiE20 considers adding an autokick for anyone mentioning their eyes 11:03:32 <KenjiE20> :P 11:03:32 <Ammler> for toyland I would recommend OpenGFX also if you don't like it else 11:03:51 <XeryusTC> there is a psg181 start on the server 11:04:08 <Ammler> that is the save I loaded 11:04:21 <XeryusTC> ok, missed that part of the conversation :P 11:04:23 <KenjiE20> there were two 11:04:27 <XeryusTC> huzzah for just cutting in :P 11:04:33 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 11:04:33 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 11:04:35 <ODM> gogo XeryusTC! 11:04:36 <KenjiE20> psg181start and psg181_start 11:04:40 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 11:04:42 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 11:05:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> starting a plane service from faberg market todreadingwood? 11:06:04 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 11:06:11 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 11:06:24 <PublicServer> <0DM> thats quick:p 11:06:28 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 11:07:03 <KenjiE20> sigh, I hate my net 11:07:19 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yay, fast forward 11:07:19 <KenjiE20> I can either download a file, or browse the net, but not both 11:07:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> uhm? 11:07:42 <KenjiE20> server's have FF now 11:07:43 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yeah, fast forward is a new feature for dedicated server 11:07:48 <PublicServer> <0DM> aaah 11:07:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> moving the date a bit? 11:08:05 <planetmaker> !rcon _ddc_fastforward 0 11:08:06 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 11:08:08 <KenjiE20> get us to 60s 11:08:11 <planetmaker> !rcon set _ddc_fastforward 0 11:08:11 <PublicServer> planetmaker: '_ddc_fastforward' is an unknown setting. 11:08:20 <PublicServer> <0DM> fancy 11:09:01 <PublicServer> <0DM> fast forward isnt that fast:P 11:10:04 <KenjiE20> I'd presume it'd be like naval formations 11:10:12 <KenjiE20> you can only go as fast as the slowest present 11:10:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> which is me:p 11:10:41 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker joined the game 11:10:49 <PublicServer> *** sonic #1 has left the game (connection lost) 11:11:51 <PublicServer> <0DM> game already to tough for you?:P 11:11:55 <leg3nd> !password 11:11:55 <PublicServer> leg3nd: breded 11:12:41 <PublicServer> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 11:13:29 <leg3nd> !dl win32 11:13:29 <PublicServer> leg3nd: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 11:13:29 <PublicServer> <0DM> *votes for monorail game*^^ 11:14:32 <PublicServer> *** Kenji joined the game 11:15:06 <KenjiE20> erm 11:15:13 <KenjiE20> we have no MM and FF is on 11:15:26 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 11:15:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> i didnt turn it on:p 11:15:34 <leg3nd> !password 11:15:34 <PublicServer> leg3nd: breded 11:15:45 <nighthawkcm> MM and FF? 11:15:50 <PublicServer> <Kenji> doesn't strike me as a great Idea 11:15:52 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 11:15:54 <PublicServer> <0DM> moneymaker and friendly fire 11:15:54 <KenjiE20> @mm 11:15:55 <Webster> mm: MoneyMaker, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Moneymaker 11:16:10 <KenjiE20> ff is fast foward, like on your video 11:16:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> can you turn it off for a bit, ill build an mm? 11:16:27 <KenjiE20> don't know how 11:16:27 <nighthawkcm> ah, yeah I understand that, but what id FF meaning with Friendly Fire? 11:16:42 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 11:16:48 <ODM> i as messing with you, sorry:$ 11:16:49 <nighthawkcm> ah ok, read your post too late 11:16:50 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (connection lost) 11:16:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C633: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000C633.png 11:17:02 <KenjiE20> !rcon pause 11:17:09 <mrruben5> !password 11:17:09 <PublicServer> mrruben5: seated 11:17:30 <KenjiE20> right, before the debt kills us 11:17:43 <mrruben5> god, have to compile again :( 11:18:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> no idea how to turn it off 11:18:59 <ODM> Ammler? 11:19:28 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:19:32 <KenjiE20> well the command pm tried, is the config name, but.... 11:19:32 <PublicServer> *** Kenji has left the game (connection lost) 11:19:50 <KenjiE20> ^ that's how bad my connection is then 11:19:59 <planetmaker> yours, too? ;-) 11:20:04 <mrruben5> !download osx 11:20:04 <PublicServer> mrruben5: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-macosx-universal.zip 11:20:05 <KenjiE20> browsing the VCS.openttd kills my game 11:20:06 <planetmaker> I didn't find a config setting really... 11:20:14 <mrruben5> boo! 11:20:22 <planetmaker> mrruben5: that won't work for OSX... :-( 11:20:28 <planetmaker> you have to compile yourself 11:20:33 <mrruben5> I know 11:20:40 <planetmaker> k 11:20:45 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 11:20:50 <planetmaker> !rcon _ddc_dedicated 0 11:20:50 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 11:21:08 <planetmaker> !rcon _ddc_fastforward 0 11:21:08 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 11:21:11 <planetmaker> hm 11:21:23 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:21:29 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 11:21:31 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> shall we keep the game in fastforward? 11:21:43 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:21:50 <XeryusTC> !auto 11:21:50 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has enabled autopause mode. 11:21:53 <XeryusTC> !clients 11:22:10 <XeryusTC> !players 11:22:11 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 2 (Orange) is 0DM, in company 1 (OTTDC Ltd.) 11:22:11 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 5 (Orange) is Amm1er, in company 1 (OTTDC Ltd.) 11:22:11 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 8 (Orange) is sonic, in company 1 (OTTDC Ltd.) 11:22:11 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Client 19 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (OTTDC Ltd.) 11:22:44 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 11:22:52 <Ammler> we need to backport a fix 11:23:06 <PublicServer> <0DM> we cant turn fast forward off? 11:23:07 <XeryusTC> hmm? 11:23:24 <Ammler> http://vcs.openttd.org/svn/changeset/19596/trunk 11:23:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> that might be an issue 11:23:45 <ODM> lol brilliant fix 11:24:17 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:24:26 <Ammler> :-) 11:24:33 <Ammler> I do apply it 11:24:44 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 11:24:48 <KenjiE20> you do that 11:24:51 <Ammler> it will most probably break next update 11:25:28 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 11:25:34 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 11:26:31 <PublicServer> Server closed down by admin 11:26:33 <PublicServer> Server has exited 11:26:33 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 11:26:39 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 11:26:39 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 11:26:39 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 11:26:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 11:26:39 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: mm & planning | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 11:27:02 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 11:27:08 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er joined the game 11:27:11 <Lelle> gamble 11:27:20 <Ammler> !rcon unpause 11:27:24 <Ammler> !auto 11:27:24 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has enabled autopause mode. 11:27:36 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yeah, slow again :-) 11:27:47 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (connection lost) 11:27:52 <ODM> !password 11:27:52 <PublicServer> ODM: mewing 11:28:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> pm, this game is dedicated to you :-P 11:28:05 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 11:28:31 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:28:55 * mrruben5 whistles, while waiting for the compiler to finish 11:29:04 <PublicServer> <0DM> right building plane mm 11:29:25 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 11:29:32 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> chaos? 11:29:33 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 11:29:38 <PublicServer> <0DM> chaos? 11:29:40 <planetmaker> Ammler: I know ;-) 11:29:58 <planetmaker> and to you? :-) 11:30:16 <Ammler> !info 11:30:16 <PublicServer> Ammler: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'planetmaker's World' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 87731 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 11:30:27 <planetmaker> :-D 11:30:47 <PublicServer> <0DM> lol 11:30:53 <PublicServer> <0DM> so this is how that part of germany looks?^^ 11:30:53 <mrruben5> are you communicating through other methods then irc by the way? 11:31:02 <Ammler> no 11:31:11 <Ammler> (yet) 11:31:25 <nighthawkcm> what part of germany are you referring to 0DM 11:31:35 <Ammler> !rcon server_name 11:31:35 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current value for 'server_name' is: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 11:31:41 <PublicServer> <0DM> his part 11:31:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> 2 planes flying 11:32:05 <PublicServer> <0DM> well loading 11:32:36 <nighthawkcm> No clue where he is in germany, thats why I asked 11:32:46 <PublicServer> <0DM> i knew, i forgot:p 11:32:53 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> small airport is completely temperate 11:33:14 <Ammler> !screen 11:33:14 <PublicServer> Ammler: Welcome Location set: 0002C99F 11:33:18 <PublicServer> *** Ammler made screenshot at 000173F5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000173F5.png 11:33:37 <PublicServer> <0DM> you mean colour scheme is wrong? 11:33:49 <V453000> !dl win32 11:33:49 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 11:33:53 <Progman> EYECANCER 11:34:06 <ODM> no! 11:34:12 <V453000> Not Found 11:34:13 <V453000> wah 11:34:31 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> why are there so many sweet factories? 11:34:40 <PublicServer> <0DM> because people love sweets^^ 11:34:49 <V453000> its just random Ammler 11:34:55 <V453000> I didnt modify a thing 11:35:37 <V453000> !revision 11:35:37 <PublicServer> V453000: Game version is r19594 11:35:39 <V453000> wah 11:35:57 <V453000> http://cz.binaries.openttd.org/openttd/binaries/nightlies/trunk/index.html 11:35:59 <V453000> there is none 11:36:22 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 11:36:22 <Ammler> none what? 11:36:31 <V453000> no r19594 11:36:38 *** phatmatt has joined #openttdcoop 11:36:43 <V453000> 19588 is newest I can see 11:37:58 <mrruben5> !password 11:37:58 <PublicServer> mrruben5: mewing 11:38:06 <phatmatt> !download win32 11:38:06 <PublicServer> phatmatt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 11:38:10 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 11:38:24 <ODM> weird 11:38:30 <V453000> :[ 11:38:32 <Ammler> http://de.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r19594/index.html 11:38:38 <ODM> the link says its there 11:39:02 <V453000> there it is ^ where Ammler posted 11:39:13 <V453000> but ... whats wrong 11:39:26 <planetmaker> that calls for a plan tonight, Ammler :-) 11:39:27 <avdg> !password 11:39:27 <PublicServer> avdg: mewing 11:39:33 <planetmaker> I hope planning will be open as long :-) 11:39:35 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 11:40:09 <Ammler> planetmaker: or chaos :-) 11:40:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> maybe ill make one aswell^^ 11:40:18 <PublicServer> <0DM> wasnt that banned?:p 11:40:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:40:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have decided I will play this whole game without OpenGFX 11:40:37 <planetmaker> Ammler: that's a plan, too. I haven't thought about it yet :-) 11:40:38 <Ammler> ODM: the guy who banned is "under" 11:40:47 <planetmaker> some kind of semi-chaos would fit. 11:40:57 <PublicServer> <0DM> pm, my thoughts exactly 11:41:28 <PublicServer> <0DM> id say: specify drop points, train type and train length 11:41:32 <PublicServer> <0DM> or perhaps only last 2 11:41:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> rail = CL3 for all lenghts 11:41:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is cool 11:42:00 <PublicServer> <0DM> nice 11:42:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> I personally would go for even TL8 11:42:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> to have capacity-for speed 11:42:11 <PublicServer> <0DM> but i prefer monorail:D 11:42:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> monorail sucks 11:42:21 <phatmatt> !password 11:42:21 <PublicServer> phatmatt: speedy 11:42:24 <planetmaker> ODM: I'm rather thinking of defining maybe general drop points, but allowing a number of un-specified transfer sub-networks 11:42:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> quad engine rail = good 11:42:27 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 11:42:29 <planetmaker> like an ICE game or so 11:42:31 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 11:42:36 <PublicServer> <0DM> hmm 11:42:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> my plan: 3 drops, 3 citiex 11:42:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> connect 11:42:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> simple as that 11:42:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> mostly 11:43:07 *** smoovi has quit IRC 11:44:12 *** OwenS has quit IRC 11:44:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> passenger/mail transport? or something different 11:44:35 <PublicServer> <0DM> why the hate against monorail?:( 11:44:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> Rail is better 11:44:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> the CL3 rox 11:44:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> and monorail is very weak on power 11:45:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> but its monorail! ergo it wins:p 11:45:18 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 11:45:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok my plan is up 11:46:04 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> mind if i build an airport near your plan? 11:46:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> nope 11:46:35 <phatmatt> !password 11:46:36 <PublicServer> phatmatt: speedy 11:46:44 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 11:46:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> V453000: how do you mean with many BBHs? 11:46:51 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> are there 4 toys factories side by side? 11:46:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> with many 11:47:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes Ammerl I also noticed 11:47:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> weird 11:47:14 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the iglu is cute :-) 11:47:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, big junctions , small junctions, 3way, 4way, everywhere junctions 11:47:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> avdg: if MLs kinda copy islands, BBHs will be many of course 11:47:29 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> is that english? 11:47:30 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> borrowed some moneiz again :P 11:47:32 *** PeterT has joined #openttdcoop 11:47:32 <Webster> Welcome back, Peter! 11:47:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 4ways 11:47:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler: igloo I think 11:47:44 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch plane_speed 11:47:44 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: Current value for 'plane_speed' is: '1' (min: 1, max: 4) 11:47:48 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch plane_speed 4 11:47:48 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games. 11:48:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> what's CL3? 11:48:16 *** Lelle has quit IRC 11:48:16 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> yeah, info box tells the same :-) 11:48:31 *** Lelle has joined #openttdcoop 11:49:19 <Pirate87> new game ? 11:49:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 11:49:35 <Pirate87> !password 11:49:35 <PublicServer> Pirate87: speedy 11:49:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> come and join :) 11:50:02 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> who doesn't use opengfx now? :-D 11:50:04 <Pirate87> !dl win32 11:50:04 <PublicServer> Pirate87: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 11:50:08 <Pirate87> me 11:50:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 11:50:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> wrong question 11:50:24 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> I bet, you will change :-P 11:50:30 <Pirate87> why ? 11:50:32 <PublicServer> * MrRuben5 wonders what it looks like in original graphics 11:50:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont! 11:50:38 <Pirate87> toyland ? 11:50:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> no OpenGfX here 11:50:57 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> the real hardcore players use TTD graphics now. 11:51:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 11:51:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 11:51:14 <PublicServer> <0DM> is ogfx toyland much different? 11:51:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> M 11:51:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> U 11:51:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> C 11:51:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> H 11:51:22 <Pirate87> the download link doesn't work :/ 11:51:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> really completely different 11:51:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> looks more like temperate 11:51:35 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no red 11:51:38 <XeryusTC> !screen 11:51:40 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC made screenshot at 00001C24: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001C24.png 11:51:47 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> no bright colors at all 11:51:54 <avdg> pirate: errors? 11:52:03 <V453000> http://de.binaries.openttd.org/binaries/nightlies/trunk/r19594/index.html 11:52:04 <Pirate87> 404 11:52:05 <V453000> pirate 11:52:06 *** welterde has quit IRC 11:52:11 <avdg> no 404 here 11:52:16 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 11:52:20 <Ammler> hmm 11:52:26 <Ammler> I fix download script 11:53:20 <Ammler> !dl lin 11:53:20 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 11:53:46 <avdg> !dl 11:53:46 <PublicServer> avdg: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 11:53:50 <Pirate87> v's link worked 11:53:51 <avdg> !dl osx 11:53:51 <PublicServer> avdg: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-macosx-universal.zip 11:53:52 <avdg> :) 11:53:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> Ammler gave me 11:54:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> thank him 11:54:08 <Ammler> remember to change that back when we have working mirrors again... :-) 11:54:34 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 11:54:40 <Pirate87> i always get rediected to cz.binaries 11:54:59 <Pirate87> and half of the time it doesn't work 11:55:08 <Pirate87> !password 11:55:08 <PublicServer> Pirate87: speedy 11:55:25 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (connection lost) 11:55:36 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 joined the game 11:55:43 <Ammler> !dl osx 11:56:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:56:11 <PublicServer> *** 0DM joined the game 11:56:17 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> brb 11:56:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> limit :/ 11:56:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:56:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003EDED: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003EDED.png 11:56:44 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 11:56:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> there still isnt the new cola factory sprite? :( 11:56:46 <Pirate87> now i know why nobody likes toyland :P 11:56:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> only 4 planes? 11:56:54 <Ammler> !dl osx 11:56:54 <PublicServer> Ammler: ask avdg or planetmaker 11:56:59 <PublicServer> <0DM> its a lot more temperate indeed 11:57:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 11:57:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> boring 11:57:09 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> brb 11:57:10 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 11:57:11 <PeterT> Lol, nice !dl osx :-D 11:57:12 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 11:57:19 <PeterT> !dl osxx 11:57:19 <PublicServer> PeterT: unknown option "osxx" 11:57:21 <PeterT> !dl osx 11:57:21 <PublicServer> PeterT: ask avdg or planetmaker 11:57:30 <avdg> :D 11:57:32 <mrruben5> !password 11:57:32 <PublicServer> mrruben5: ensign 11:57:42 <Pirate87> seriously considering opengfx 11:57:47 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 11:58:01 <planetmaker> gr... Ammler !dl osx should be replaced by something like svn co ... && ./configure && make :-) 11:58:07 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 11:58:21 <avdg> planetmaker: I still got some compile errors 11:58:25 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 11:58:27 <Phazorx> can make a shell script that does it 11:58:27 <PeterT> errors? 11:58:28 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> omg 11:58:28 <planetmaker> I don't ;-) 11:58:29 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 11:58:34 <PeterT> now the osx port is completely broken? 11:58:36 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> original graphics are horrible :P 11:58:47 <Ammler> !dl osx 11:58:47 <PublicServer> Ammler: use !svn or ask avdg or planetm4ker 11:58:48 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:58:57 <planetmaker> better :-) 11:59:00 <PeterT> lol 11:59:03 <PeterT> !svn 11:59:03 <PublicServer> PeterT: svn update -r19594 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p ensign 11:59:03 <PublicServer> PeterT: svn checkout -r19594 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make 11:59:06 <V453000> !password 11:59:06 <PublicServer> V453000: ensign 11:59:20 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 11:59:21 <Pirate87> they ain't horrible, but i bet my eyes gonna hurt after a while 11:59:34 <mrruben5> by the way 11:59:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will keep originals 11:59:51 <Ammler> :-D 11:59:52 <mrruben5> if you have lzo from macports, you need to tell the configure script where to find lzo 11:59:55 <planetmaker> but I will only supply binaries for intel osx 10.6 12:00:11 <planetmaker> mrruben5: not really 12:00:24 <mrruben5> macports: ./configure --with-liblzo2=/opt/local/lib/liblzo2.a --CFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include 12:00:27 <planetmaker> you need -isystem=/opt/local/ 12:00:56 <Ammler> gimme your complete svn command 12:01:05 <Ammler> and I create !svnosx 12:01:06 <V453000> !setdef 12:01:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 12:01:09 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 12:01:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> woohoo choo choo 12:01:23 <Ammler> hmm 12:01:27 <mrruben5> !svnosx 12:01:34 <avdg> planetmaker: http://pastebin.com/brmxbFB4 12:01:43 <Ammler> you might also need to issue some macports things 12:01:49 <avdg> that means that my include paths aren't right, not? 12:01:52 <Ammler> so this doesn't fit a line 12:02:24 <PublicServer> *** Pirate87 has left the game (leaving) 12:02:35 <PublicServer> *** 0DM has left the game (leaving) 12:03:04 <Pirate87> i think i'm gonna skip this game too, just got myself assassin's creed 2 :P 12:03:04 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 12:03:14 <Pirate87> won't have time for both 12:03:17 <PeterT> Pirate87: That's a good game. 12:03:23 <mrruben5> !password 12:03:23 <PublicServer> mrruben5: ensign 12:03:30 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 12:03:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> yup, like ogfx better :P 12:04:28 <planetmaker> avdg: yes, that happens, if you don't have /opt/local defined as system dir 12:05:06 <planetmaker> you can either add all those manually, but defining those macports dirs as system dir will silence all those (unnecessary) warnings 12:05:46 *** Pirate87 has quit IRC 12:06:24 <avdg> hmm… I found the problem 12:08:17 <PublicServer> <Amm1er> Piggy Bank is too small 12:11:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000282D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000282D.png 12:12:47 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 12:13:24 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 12:14:55 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 12:15:58 <Phazorx> oh... great... and i thought i'd play today 12:16:48 <planetmaker> hm... how did it work with isystem... 12:17:16 <ODM> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/stats/report-180.txt stats of previous game 12:18:13 <V453000> funny 12:18:16 <avdg> nice 12:19:09 <avdg> check the highs stats :p 12:20:22 <V453000> I saw 12:20:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> lol @ bridges made 12:21:09 <V453000> :D 12:21:14 <V453000> 501 12:21:35 <planetmaker> ./configure CFLAGS=-isystem/opt/local/include && make <<-- @ Ammler 12:21:43 <planetmaker> then I don't get any warnings 12:21:44 <avdg> CmdDepotMassAutoReplace: MrRuben5 with 2 12:21:45 <avdg> :p 12:21:46 <V453000> CmdBuildSingleSignal: V453000 with 13102 12:22:18 <nighthawkcm> Statistics are incorrect - I was a spectator too, or do you have to spectate a certain game time? 12:22:24 <avdg> strange: I can't do make and ./configure succeed 12:22:39 <avdg> nighthawkcm: then you've played 12:22:40 <Ammler> V453000: did ypu play alone? 12:22:44 <planetmaker> avdg: did you try exact the same way I posted right now? 12:22:47 <V453000> looks so :D 12:22:53 <Ammler> :-) 12:23:03 <ODM> hm lemme check the log nighthawkcm 12:23:08 <nighthawkcm> No, I joined 2 or 3 times and chose to be spectator 12:23:19 <avdg> planetmaker: like on the wiki? 12:23:23 <planetmaker> avdg: like 12:23:25 <planetmaker> ./configure CFLAGS=-isystem/opt/local/include 12:23:30 <avdg> k 12:23:30 <planetmaker> && make 12:23:33 <V453000> well I was there for full lenght of the game ... others changed :) 12:23:43 <planetmaker> also avdg: everything you posted in the paste looks fine 12:23:49 <nighthawkcm> hehe, yeah, 13 hours, nice amount of time 12:24:04 <avdg> make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. 12:24:04 <avdg> [SRC] DEP CHECK (all files) 12:24:06 <planetmaker> the binary will work. It's useless warnings as gcc doesn't recognize the /opt/local/include dir as system include dir 12:24:13 <planetmaker> avdg: see, it worked :-) 12:24:21 <planetmaker> your binary is fine. 12:24:33 <planetmaker> the modification of the command I posted basically silences the warnings. 12:24:37 <avdg> yeah, but I want to get ride of the compile erros 12:24:40 <avdg> *errors 12:24:41 <planetmaker> As those warnings aren't displayed for system dirs 12:24:45 <planetmaker> it's not errors 12:24:48 <planetmaker> it's warnings. 12:24:57 <planetmaker> That is a BIG difference. I beg to differenciate 12:25:23 <avdg> lets see, I want to download something from BaNaNAs, would it work now? 12:25:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 12:25:32 <planetmaker> it's the difference between success and failure 12:25:41 <avdg> ah its compiling :) 12:25:44 <planetmaker> dunno, avdg. That might be a completely different issue 12:25:57 <planetmaker> And most probably still is... :S 12:26:14 <avdg> that bug was related with zlib I thought 12:26:21 <planetmaker> but it has nothing to do with that warnings, I think 12:26:30 <avdg> and that was related with these warnings 12:26:32 <planetmaker> at least not with the zlib warning 12:26:38 <planetmaker> nope. I e-mailed with the maintainers 12:26:46 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C27: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001C27.png 12:26:47 <avdg> or something else (broken download) 12:26:59 <planetmaker> yes, I know. But it's unrelated to that warning :-) 12:27:46 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 12:28:34 <planetmaker> But I still have the broken download error... 12:28:37 <planetmaker> grrr 12:28:43 <avdg> is there a way to add the ./configure parameters at the start binary? (or is it best done hardcoded) 12:29:34 <planetmaker> at the start binary? 12:29:42 <planetmaker> you mean by default? 12:29:57 <planetmaker> you can edit your local CFLAGS environment setting to reflect that 12:30:00 <avdg> the start from autostart 12:30:10 <planetmaker> then configure will use that additionally 12:30:12 <avdg> hmm… thats new from me 12:30:19 <avdg> *for 12:30:43 <planetmaker> set CFLAGS=-isystem/opt/local/include 12:30:43 <avdg> yep: compile errors are gone 12:30:53 <planetmaker> you might want to add that to your ~/.bashrc 12:31:14 <avdg> doesn't it work global? 12:31:42 <planetmaker> well. Edit your system's bash profile :-) 12:31:53 <avdg> :) that's what i'm doing now 12:32:01 <planetmaker> I'd add in my personal ~/.bash_profile 12:32:12 <planetmaker> export CFLAGS=-isystem/opt/local/include CFLAGS 12:33:05 <mrruben5> done as well :P 12:36:17 <ODM> ugh big bug in my stats thingie, will have to remake some things:P 12:36:22 <avdg> k, I still have the BaNaNa bug 12:37:37 <Ammler> planetmaker: I guess, it would be better to make a howto for osx on the wiki 12:37:43 <Ammler> maybe link to the opentd.org wiki 12:37:47 <avdg> can someone test it on windows and linux if BaNaNa works? 12:38:10 <avdg> thats where you download the newgrf 12:38:11 <planetmaker> avdg: it does. I asked others :-). Though I'm not sure whether it's an OS issue. Might be, though 12:38:24 <planetmaker> My test case is NoCAB :-) 12:38:29 <planetmaker> it fails... :-( 12:38:49 <avdg> the bad thing is that the downloadmanager gives a false positive 12:38:58 <planetmaker> hm, no? 12:39:05 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 12:39:19 <planetmaker> It only shows the as updated as long as you don't exit the download manger. If you re-enter, you can download again 12:39:22 <planetmaker> the very same thing 12:39:37 <avdg> ..download… see green light… go back to BaNaNas… see that its not downloaded 12:39:43 <planetmaker> yes 12:39:47 <planetmaker> exactly :-) 12:40:01 <avdg> thats 1 critical check 12:40:02 <planetmaker> But that's correct. As it shows "not downloaded" for those which are truncated 12:40:23 <planetmaker> but granted: green light, if not exiting bananas in between 12:40:45 <planetmaker> I guess I'll prepare a bug report about that... 12:41:14 <planetmaker> Ammler: probably, yes. Wiki could need updating 12:41:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C1BC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0003C1BC.png 12:44:47 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 0 12:45:00 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 12:45:06 <XeryusTC> oh wow 12:45:18 <XeryusTC> only 4 secondaries 12:45:22 <XeryusTC> or actually, 3 12:45:26 <XeryusTC> and one tertiary :o 12:45:30 <planetmaker> hm.. let's test my config.lib patch :-) 12:48:18 *** Fonzy has joined #openttdcoop 12:48:33 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> 4 lane as in LL_RR or LLLL_RRRR 12:48:35 *** Fonzy has left #openttdcoop 12:48:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> LLLL 12:48:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> or actually, 4x CW 12:48:50 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> CCW 12:51:00 *** Szvengar has joined #openttdcoop 12:51:04 <V453000> !screen 12:51:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 made screenshot at 00001A49: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001A49.png 12:52:02 <planetmaker> avdg: I submitted a patch to FS which will treat macports include dir as systemdir by default. 12:52:08 <PublicServer> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 12:52:21 <avdg> ty 12:52:32 <avdg> should I test it? 12:52:45 <XeryusTC> !rcon patch raw_industry_construction 2 12:54:09 <planetmaker> if you wish. FS 3750 12:54:25 <planetmaker> but it basically adds that dir to the CFLAGS which openttd defines itself :-) 12:54:34 <planetmaker> so nothing different from what you and I did now manually 12:54:43 <avdg> oh :) 12:54:49 <planetmaker> it doesn't fix our broken download thing. 12:54:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, I'd like to see v's plan in visual before voting 12:54:57 <avdg> i see 12:55:05 <Ammler> planetmaker: shouldn't you rather configure macports to use /usr as prefix? 12:55:25 <planetmaker> Ammler: well. That'd break possibly other things 12:56:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C48: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001C48.png 12:57:26 <PublicServer> *** Phantom69 has left the game (connection lost) 12:58:53 <avdg> !password 12:58:53 <PublicServer> avdg: reborn 12:59:01 <V453000> MrRuben5:see psg 169 ... similar 12:59:01 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 13:00:18 <hylje> how do you feel about joining the game, avdg? 13:00:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> stopid :) 13:00:39 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :') 13:01:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm just watching :p 13:04:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> shouldn't we upgrade the airports? 13:04:14 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 13:04:15 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 13:04:23 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> oh, my eyes! 13:04:28 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> hehe 13:04:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 13:04:46 <SmatZ> [15:04:25] <PublicServer> <Thraxian> oh, my eyes! <== toyland again? 13:04:46 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt joined the game 13:04:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> welcome to neverland 13:05:15 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> bad place for airports, huh? 13:06:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> that water looks like problems :) 13:06:56 *** Zulan has joined #openttdcoop 13:07:17 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> aye we need to dry it then :P 13:07:20 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:07:22 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> hello 13:07:27 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 13:07:28 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> morning, smatz 13:07:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) speed up that global warming then 13:07:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> add planes 13:07:40 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 13:07:48 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (connection lost) 13:07:49 <PublicServer> * Thraxian isn't on long...kid has soccer this morning 13:08:01 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> add planes to neverland? what good will that do? 13:08:06 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:08:10 <PublicServer> <Thraxian> they don't get paid until they land...and...well...neverland 13:08:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> dirty candy :) 13:08:18 <PublicServer> <SmatZ> it looks far better with opengfx 13:09:32 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 13:09:56 <ODM> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/stats/report-180.txt proper stats now i think 13:10:08 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, lots and lots of drying up 13:10:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> see 80 tiles from south 13:10:59 <ODM> thraxian, thats like the worst joke of the day:p 13:11:18 <snc> omg nearly 10 hours played 13:11:35 <ODM> thats active time;) idling doesnt count 13:11:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035F2F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00035F2F.png 13:14:37 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, if we are going to have multiple train lengths we're going to need sorting 13:15:00 <ODM> i think i can improve the format a bit more, add the word active, and leave out Cmd 13:15:03 <PublicServer> <sonic> have we? 13:15:42 <SmatZ> !set map_x 13:15:46 <SmatZ> !rcon set map_x 13:15:46 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'map_x' is: '9' (min: 6, max: 11) 13:15:50 <SmatZ> !rcon set map_y 13:15:50 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'map_y' is: '9' (min: 6, max: 11) 13:15:54 <SmatZ> !rcon set_newgame map_y 13:15:54 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'map_y' is: '9' (min: 6, max: 11) 13:15:57 <SmatZ> !rcon set_newgame map_x 13:15:57 <PublicServer> SmatZ: Current value for 'map_x' is: '9' (min: 6, max: 11) 13:16:01 <ODM> hmm 13:16:07 <ODM> 9 is 512? 13:16:10 <SmatZ> yes :) 13:16:13 <SmatZ> 2**n 13:16:47 <ODM> but gamesize is 512x512, so we dont know if its newgame, or actual game;) 13:17:27 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ joined the game 13:17:38 <SmatZ> yes, it is :) 13:17:45 <PublicServer> *** SmatZ has left the game (leaving) 13:18:31 <V453000> !password 13:18:31 <PublicServer> V453000: pumice 13:18:47 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 13:19:08 <^Spike^> a 13:19:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> u 13:19:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> plane upgrade :) 13:20:35 <^Spike^> V453000 that's called my BNC reconnect trick.. just PM the bnc screen and it wil reconnect cause my computer went into sleep and likes to terminate ALL my network connections :) 13:21:50 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 13:24:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> check incomen :) 13:26:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000281E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000281E.png 13:27:19 <avdg> usefull screenshot :p 13:27:58 <snc> lol 13:28:12 <^Spike^> every screenshot is usefull ;) 13:29:06 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> :o I am amazed by how many dutch people are active in OTTDcoop 13:29:26 <avdg> does that include flemish people in that case? 13:29:35 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> yes also :) 13:29:43 <avdg> well, I'm flemish 13:30:20 * avdg thinks the only one 13:34:10 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 13:35:23 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 13:37:47 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> v: both directions everywhere? 13:37:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:38:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> well this should be about it 13:38:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> its hard to redraw the map -.- 13:38:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok done 13:39:05 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I like the complexity of your plan but also the simpleness of xeryustc's plan 13:39:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> neither is complicated 13:40:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> your plan is always the less complicated :) (counts for everybody including me :p) 13:40:10 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> which lines are main lines and which are sublines? 13:40:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> none are sublines 13:40:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLHs to be added 13:40:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> the effect of this should make the traffic well-spread all around 13:40:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> so even LL_RR is a lot there 13:41:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> plus I think we need something more relaxing after the last game 13:41:14 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> it's not self regulated is it? 13:41:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 13:41:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 13:41:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> thank god :P 13:41:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) i've relaxed a lot at the previous game 13:41:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> not much stuff to fix 13:41:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000E20: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000E20.png 13:43:18 <XeryusTC> V453000: what railtype are you going for? 13:43:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> rail 13:43:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> I want CL3 with TL8 ... that just rocks all asses 13:43:44 <XeryusTC> xD 13:43:47 <XeryusTC> i'm going for TL4 :P 13:43:56 <XeryusTC> TL3 is a bit too short for my plan i guess 13:43:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> mono? 13:44:10 <XeryusTC> probably 13:44:12 <XeryusTC> or maglev 13:44:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 13:44:29 <XeryusTC> max speed is 482 km'h 13:44:30 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> CL3 = curve length of 3? 13:44:31 <XeryusTC> km/h 13:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:44:35 <XeryusTC> yes 13:45:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> well ... your plan is cool but I feel it too similar to last one ;) even though I know it is different 13:45:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> and the BE CREATIVE! sign adds a lot! :P 13:45:35 <XeryusTC> maglev has preference over mono :P 13:45:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 13:46:12 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> how the heck did you rotate the engine? I always wondered 13:46:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I got a specialist for that ... XeryusTC, can you? :PP 13:46:37 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> ctrl+click 13:46:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks :) 13:46:56 <avdg> :D 13:47:16 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> ahh like that 13:47:30 <avdg> its the control again :p 13:47:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 13:47:36 <avdg> *magic key* 13:47:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> damn control 13:47:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> I should have guessed 13:47:53 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> so ehm 13:48:06 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> SLH loadbalanced where possible I guess then also 13:48:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> loadbalancing into 2 lanes is the easiest thing 13:48:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> (read as yes) 13:48:45 <XeryusTC> my plan could possibly do with one more crossing ml 13:49:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 3 fit the landscape ... 13:49:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> but as you think :) 13:51:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> damm check incomen 13:51:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 13:51:52 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> :D 13:51:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> whats with it 13:51:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 13:52:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> its lower then our upgrade 13:52:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> I guess the planes are too empty 13:52:56 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> maybe remove one plane per line 13:53:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> dreadingwood still has pax 13:53:44 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 13:54:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 13:55:41 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm, any examples of loadbalanced SLHs? 13:56:01 <XeryusTC> oh, i need CL4 :o 13:56:48 <V453000> :PP 13:56:55 <XeryusTC> and two engines 13:56:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002E0F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002E0F.png 13:57:53 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 13:58:22 *** welterde has quit IRC 13:58:47 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 14:00:30 <V453000> MrRuben5: Archives? 14:00:42 <PeterT> @archives 14:00:47 <mrruben5> which game for example 14:00:49 <PeterT> !archives 14:00:54 <PeterT> @archive 14:00:54 <Webster> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/PublicServer:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/MemberZone:Archive | http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/ProZone:Archive 14:02:21 <avdg> :p http://blog.joa-ebert.com/2010/04/09/what-apple-just-did/ 14:02:22 <Webster> Title: What Apple Just Did at blog.joa-ebert.com" target="_blank">blog.joa-ebert.com Blog of Joa Ebert (at blog.joa-ebert.com" target="_blank">blog.joa-ebert.com) 14:02:47 <V453000> 169 has at least one for sure 14:04:12 <V453000> 178 is all - LL_RR 14:04:22 <V453000> so there is plenty, many of them balanced 14:04:53 <V453000> 173 has some 14:05:00 <V453000> see for yourself :) 14:05:25 <mrruben5> will check them out then :P 14:05:39 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (connection lost) 14:05:48 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 14:06:31 <V453000> if you need some orientation or sightseeing guide, I am here ;) 14:07:44 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 14:10:22 *** Szvengar has left #openttdcoop 14:10:37 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 14:10:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 14:10:41 *** welterde has quit IRC 14:10:41 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 14:12:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000E47: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000E47.png 14:12:01 *** Fonzy has joined #openttdcoop 14:12:55 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 14:13:37 *** Fonzy has left #openttdcoop 14:20:19 *** dashing has joined #openttdcoop 14:23:06 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 14:23:07 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:25:29 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 14:25:31 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden joined the game 14:25:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 14:27:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002465: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002465.png 14:28:36 <mrruben5> v343000: getting undefined string everywhere :( 14:28:43 <mrruben5> v453000* 14:29:03 <PublicServer> *** VictorOfSweden has left the game (leaving) 14:29:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 14:32:57 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:59 <nighthawkcm> how far out can I extend a station with the linked stations? 14:33:54 <mrruben5> !password 14:33:54 <PublicServer> mrruben5: brunts 14:33:59 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 14:34:00 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 14:38:00 *** avdg has quit IRC 14:38:02 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 14:42:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002666: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002666.png 14:47:53 *** Baeda has joined #openttdcoop 14:47:58 *** ANDREW_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:48:14 <Baeda> !download win64 14:48:14 <PublicServer> Baeda: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win64.zip 14:49:32 <avdg> !dl osx 14:49:32 <PublicServer> avdg: use !svn or ask avdg or planetm4ker 14:49:35 <avdg> :p 14:49:56 <avdg> should be, compile yourself :p 14:51:10 <Baeda> !password 14:51:10 <PublicServer> Baeda: royals 14:52:31 *** nubn has quit IRC 14:54:04 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 14:56:07 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (leaving) 14:57:15 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (connection lost) 14:57:28 <mrruben5> !password 14:57:28 <PublicServer> mrruben5: ranger 14:57:34 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 14:57:43 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 14:58:35 *** Baeda_ has joined #openttdcoop 14:59:15 *** Baeda has quit IRC 14:59:18 *** Baeda_ is now known as Baeda 14:59:24 <Baeda> !password 14:59:24 <PublicServer> Baeda: ranger 14:59:42 <PublicServer> *** baeda #1 joined the game 15:16:23 *** thgergo has quit IRC 15:22:16 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 15:26:24 <PublicServer> *** baeda has left the game (connection lost) 15:27:52 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 15:30:43 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 15:34:13 <PublicServer> <baeda #1> XeryusTC? you there and have some sparetime for someone new to coop playing? :o) 15:35:01 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 15:35:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 15:35:51 <PublicServer> <baeda #1> Or maybe you are avdg? 15:36:01 <avdg> @quickstart 15:36:03 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 15:36:22 <avdg> did you read that already? 15:37:06 <PublicServer> <baeda #1> hehe yea several times and did quite some offline-games trying 15:37:25 <avdg> look and learn :) 15:37:41 <avdg> still, there is not much todo for now 15:38:02 <Baeda> yap it's still MM/planning i know 15:38:13 <avdg> at least, you can look at the network plans 15:38:16 <Baeda> the thing i got problems with is the following 15:38:33 <avdg> following what? 15:38:44 <Baeda> i get the idea of the network plans 15:38:59 <Baeda> i know (in the end) where to build what 15:39:31 <Baeda> but i'm not that confident with myself to say: alright, i'm going to build that drop station now... 15:39:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats not a problem 15:40:07 <Baeda> because i don't know if it's going to be big/balanced whatever enough you know? 15:40:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are always people (including the master of the plan) who lay out the basic construction 15:40:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> and much work is simply copy paste (like stations) 15:42:31 <Baeda> well i built (in my best offline game i suppose) one nice station (okay it was extremely big) on 6 incoming tracks with balancing exits 15:42:55 <Baeda> but i still don't know where to build what size you know? 15:43:04 <avdg> thats a good thing, but don't worry about the size 15:43:24 <avdg> most things are bigger, just because we're doing it coop 15:43:42 <avdg> everybody tries to improve something or make it cleaner 15:44:14 <Baeda> so let's say V's plan is going to make it 15:44:27 <avdg> thats too early :) 15:44:28 <Baeda> it's going to be LL_RR on the ML if i got that right 15:44:46 <avdg> yeah, if you know what LL_RR means :p 15:44:59 <De_Ghosty> TRIAL BY FIRE 15:45:12 <Baeda> well it's two lines each direction 15:45:15 <avdg> yep 15:46:17 <Baeda> so the hubs won't be big of a deal actually 15:46:19 <dashing> so i have multiple smaller networks of several types of resources that drop off at a factory type 15:46:33 <dashing> how do i make the transition from that and to having all my stations etc being connected to 1 network ? 15:46:48 <Baeda> but do you personally know already how big the stations need to be? 15:47:03 <avdg> dashing: how is your signallingskills 15:47:19 <dashing> i have gotten the hang of block signals 15:47:23 <avdg> baeda: thats always guessing 15:47:31 <ODM> so a welshman, an irishman and a scotsman go into a bar 15:47:39 <dashing> but the path signals i dont understand 15:47:39 <ODM> and the barkeeper says: "what is this, some kind of joke?" 15:47:50 <dashing> or w/e they were called, the ones that has a small box underneath 15:48:02 <nighthawkcm> anyone have a image of a LL_RR 4 way SLH? 15:48:05 <avdg> dashing: can you see the reserved paths? 15:48:14 <dashing> wha ? 15:48:22 <avdg> k, i know enough :p 15:48:31 <avdg> go to options (hope you know that) 15:48:34 <Baeda> nighthawkcm: isn't there something in the juntionary? 15:48:50 <Baeda> but wait i think i built one lately (but its unbalanced) 15:48:52 <nighthawkcm> nope, there is only the classic T SLH junction 15:49:06 <dashing> me ? what am i looking for ? 15:49:06 <nighthawkcm> no I need a balanced one 15:49:08 <De_Ghosty> i don't get it ODM 15:49:19 <ODM> its very bad, but made me lol 15:49:19 <avdg> dashing: interface -> view options -> show reserved tracks 15:49:42 <dashing> its on 15:49:44 <avdg> can be diffrend, because I'm using non-english text 15:49:54 <dashing> i have turned it on now i mean 15:49:55 <avdg> k, thats good 15:50:06 <avdg> :) 15:50:15 <avdg> watch again at you pbs 15:50:19 <nighthawkcm> actually the junctionary needs some love since the newer games had different networks running as far as I saw it 15:50:25 <nighthawkcm> more complicated 15:50:35 <avdg> are you playing online dashing? 15:51:06 <dashing> im not in an online game atm, i could play online sure 15:52:10 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 15:52:10 *** avdg has quit IRC 15:52:47 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:55:08 <Baeda> nighthawkcm: still there? 15:55:47 <nighthawkcm> yeah 15:55:54 <nighthawkcm> im alive 15:56:05 <Baeda> i found one (unbalanced) but you easily can add a flip-flop balancer on every corner to balance it 15:56:19 <Baeda> it's www.baeda.de/4way_ll_rr.png 15:56:56 <nighthawkcm> thats a ML hub .... but I can probably if needed reduce it 15:57:06 <Baeda> yea well and double-briding is missing :/ 15:57:35 <nighthawkcm> hmmhmm.. I see that... 15:57:38 <Baeda> uhm so your SL sould be L_R? 15:58:00 <avdg> *LR 15:58:29 <nighthawkcm> Yeah, I am playing smaller maps at the moment so the ML is LL_RR and the SL is LR 15:58:44 <avdg> the _ means 1 tile space 15:58:53 <avdg> a number means so much tiles space 15:59:04 <Baeda> ah i see thanks :) 15:59:38 <nighthawkcm> ok - then my ML is usually LL_____RR 15:59:52 <avdg> don't use 2 or more underscores :p 16:00:00 <nighthawkcm> I leave the standard 5 tiles inbetween, sometimes more or less, as less terraforming as possible 16:00:08 <avdg> thats LL5RR 16:00:13 <nighthawkcm> ah ok 16:01:16 <avdg> its simpy impractical to use many underscores 16:01:23 <avdg> *simply 16:02:35 <avdg> I should leave the openttdcoop server :p 16:02:39 <avdg> its a mess 16:03:07 <avdg> !password 16:03:07 <PublicServer> avdg: staved 16:03:20 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 16:03:33 <nighthawkcm> why is it a mess? 16:03:44 <avdg> check it out by yourself 16:04:51 <nighthawkcm> how can i prevent trains from turning around while waiting in a waiting bay in front of the station, every now and then they go a bit back and turn again to resume their waiting position. 16:05:12 <avdg> without resetting options: add more signals 16:05:39 <nighthawkcm> they then still do it, even if its a small space they have 16:05:51 <avdg> then you should check the settings 16:05:51 <nighthawkcm> what setting could I reset? 16:05:53 *** owenshep has joined #openttdcoop 16:06:00 <planetmaker> nighthawkcm: turn_on_...signal 16:06:04 <avdg> but not all settings are listed 16:06:04 *** owenshep is now known as OwenS 16:06:05 <planetmaker> search your openttd.cfg for it 16:06:29 <planetmaker> it can only be change via consol or for new games befor openttd is started in the cfg 16:06:48 <planetmaker> !setdef 16:06:48 <PublicServer> *** planetmaker has disabled wait_for_pbs_path, wait_twoway_signal, wait_oneway_signal, ai_in_multiplayer; enabled no_servicing_if_no_breakdowns, extra_dynamite, mod_road_rebuild, forbid_90_deg, rail_firstred_twoway_eol and set path_backoff_interval to 1, train_acceleration_model to 1 16:06:53 <planetmaker> ^ some are there 16:07:10 <planetmaker> wait_...signal 16:07:21 <planetmaker> wait...path 16:07:23 <nighthawkcm> can it be changed during a game? 16:07:31 <planetmaker> yes. I just did here ;-) 16:07:41 <planetmaker> well, it surely was set to these values already 16:08:25 <planetmaker> but only via console 16:08:43 <nighthawkcm> err. ok, how does the command look that I have to hack into the console if i want to make them wait at a one way signal 16:09:25 <nighthawkcm> wait_oneway_signal ... what comes before and after that so it accepts the command/change? 16:09:38 <avdg> do help 16:10:15 <avdg> help setting 16:12:32 <Baeda> nighthawkcm: open your openttd.cfg and find lines wait_oneway_signal = XY and following 16:12:45 <Baeda> and edit as you please. 16:13:05 <avdg> baeda: that does not change the settings ingame 16:13:13 <nighthawkcm> Hmm.. thats too easy, I want to figure out how to change it via the console 16:13:24 <avdg> 'help setting' 16:13:31 <nighthawkcm> but he delivers me errors at the moment 16:13:55 <nighthawkcm> I did that, but somehow I cant get him to tell me more about the specific command 16:14:12 <nighthawkcm> I cant get the actual value for the wait_oneway_signal 16:14:25 <avdg> then check you openttd.cfg file 16:14:34 <avdg> *your 16:15:45 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian joined the game 16:15:45 <nighthawkcm> wait_oneway_signal = 15 16:15:45 <nighthawkcm> wait_twoway_signal = 41 16:15:45 <nighthawkcm> wait_for_pbs_path = 30 16:15:45 <nighthawkcm> reserve_paths = false 16:15:45 <nighthawkcm> path_backoff_interval = 20 16:16:07 *** razmir has quit IRC 16:16:09 <avdg> setting wait_oneway_signal 16:16:25 *** razmir has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:27 <avdg> setting wait_oneway_signal <value> 16:16:46 <nighthawkcm> what is the reserve paths and path backoff ? 16:16:59 *** razmir is now known as Guest2055 16:17:01 <nighthawkcm> so I just increase it to a adequate high setting? 16:17:04 <avdg> thats for the pathfinder 16:17:11 <planetmaker> nighthawkcm: to 0 16:17:11 <avdg> don't touch if you don't know what it is 16:17:20 <planetmaker> and what avdg says 16:17:20 *** Guest2055 has left #openttdcoop 16:17:22 <avdg> or follo the suggestion of pm :) 16:17:25 <planetmaker> Is MUCH more important 16:17:31 <planetmaker> :-D 16:17:46 <planetmaker> circular reference now? 16:17:52 <avdg> :) 16:17:58 <nighthawkcm> ^^ 16:19:33 <nighthawkcm> 0 makes them do it constantly now 16:20:17 <planetmaker> well. See the settings we used which I recalled by !setdef earlier. That should disable turning trains 16:20:45 <PublicServer> *** Thraxian has left the game (connection lost) 16:21:09 <nighthawkcm> well, this does not disable it, it rather changes the value 16:25:28 <nighthawkcm> it probably has to be changed in the cfg to false instead of a value to disable it 16:26:59 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 16:30:15 <PublicServer> *** phatmatt has left the game (leaving) 16:30:17 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 16:31:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm still no better planes 16:31:36 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:39 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:56 <dashing> i always wondered, is it enough to have station coverage of 1 tile on a resource to get everything it produces or do you need to fully cover it ? 16:33:38 <avdg> 1 is enough 16:33:42 <nighthawkcm> one is enough 16:33:49 <avdg> except in towns, if you try to catch people and post 16:34:08 <avdg> there is more coverage, more 'goods' 16:34:26 <dashing> thanks 16:34:43 <dashing> and another one, if you destroy farmland on farms, does that reduce their production ? 16:34:44 <nighthawkcm> post=mail 16:35:18 <avdg> yes 16:36:11 *** Szvengar has joined #openttdcoop 16:36:52 *** Szvengar has left #openttdcoop 16:37:14 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 16:37:14 *** avdg has quit IRC 16:37:53 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:38:20 <avdg> !password 16:38:20 <PublicServer> avdg: rapist 16:38:28 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 16:43:07 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 16:43:07 *** avdg has quit IRC 16:44:29 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:46:31 <mrruben5> avdg is a rapist!! 16:46:32 <mrruben5> :P:P 16:46:40 <ODM> seriously nice 16:47:27 <avdg> damm :) 16:47:35 <avdg> whats happening 16:47:40 <avdg> !password 16:47:40 <PublicServer> avdg: beetle 16:47:53 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 16:47:53 <dashing> how do i expand a station once built ? 16:47:57 <avdg> must be beetie 16:47:59 <avdg> :p 16:48:21 <avdg> just build, at least if you hit the station while building 16:48:31 <avdg> else use ctrl + build 16:48:36 <dashing> and it will automatically be part of the old station ? 16:48:38 <avdg> wich is handy 16:48:41 <ODM> yes 16:48:42 <avdg> yep 16:48:46 <dashing> in normal TTD it would be a new station 16:49:04 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 16:49:05 *** avdg has quit IRC 16:49:12 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 16:49:13 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 16:49:14 <avdg> wth 16:49:39 <avdg> !players 16:49:41 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 74 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 16:49:41 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 78 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 16:49:41 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 76 (Orange) is baeda #1, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 16:49:41 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 62 is V453000, a spectator 16:49:52 <avdg> !password 16:49:52 <PublicServer> avdg: beetle 16:50:03 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 16:51:41 <dashing> shouldnt have started my game in 1925 16:51:45 <dashing> the engines are so bad :( 16:51:52 *** welterde has quit IRC 16:53:09 <avdg> :) 16:53:12 <avdg> thats life 16:53:23 <avdg> it sucks when you go back in time 16:58:15 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hmm, planning is slow :s 16:58:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> did you expected more plans? 16:58:59 <mrruben5> well we seem to be the only 4 that are active in coop atm :S 17:00:00 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 17:01:12 <Baeda> hmm i'd love to join but i don't think i'm good enough yet :P 17:01:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> just watch :) 17:01:32 <avdg> !dl 17:01:32 <PublicServer> avdg: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 17:01:41 <Baeda> !players 17:01:42 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 74 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:01:42 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 84 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:01:43 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 78 (Orange) is XeryusTC, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:01:43 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 76 (Orange) is baeda #1, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:01:43 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 62 is V453000, a spectator 17:01:47 <Baeda> i'm i already :P 17:01:54 <planetmaker> :-P 17:02:59 <Baeda> if i'm going to build anything i always think it's even more work for you becaus you have to destroy and rebuild it hehe 17:03:24 <Phazorx> Baeda: unless it is something terribly out of place/function it will not be destroyed 17:03:27 <Phazorx> it will be commented 17:03:32 <mrruben5> Not sure how it is done, how are tasks divided at the beginning of the building stage? Does the planner do this or is it whoever likes to picks up the task? 17:03:41 <Phazorx> so yuu can update it yourself 17:03:44 <Phazorx> and learn from it 17:04:18 <Baeda> and what do you think would be a good construction to start with? smaller slh's? 17:04:24 <Phazorx> mrruben5: you pick what you are capable of usually 17:04:34 <Phazorx> and claim it in some way 17:04:42 <Phazorx> at least verbally and with a sign at location 17:04:53 <Phazorx> key network elements are 1st priority 17:05:10 <Phazorx> and if you have questiones plan's author is supposed to provide you with instructions 17:05:12 <mrruben5> so BBH's are built first 17:05:25 <Phazorx> mrruben5: these, along with ML itself 17:05:36 <Phazorx> ML is seemingly easy task - but it needs to be done too 17:05:43 <Phazorx> and it needs to be done properly 17:05:57 <Phazorx> such as avoid industries that will need to be connected or towns 17:06:12 <Phazorx> and follow rule set - such as low terraform or save towns 17:07:00 <Phazorx> Baeda: slhs are actualy not any less comples than bbhs 17:07:09 <Phazorx> they just have different requirement 17:07:27 <Phazorx> easiest task is to connect industries to SLs and manage station expansion 17:07:27 <Baeda> because they need mergers? 17:07:49 <Phazorx> Baeda: well BBHs usualy have mergers too :) 17:07:57 <Phazorx> at least i havent seen one w/o merger 17:08:10 <Phazorx> and it is unlikely that one with no merging traffic can be called a hub as such :) 17:08:32 <Phazorx> but yes - slh and bbh have different "doctrines" when it comes to merger design 17:09:11 <avdg> wtf… firefox is eating 50% of my cpu and I'm using only youtube 17:09:17 <Baeda> uhm then i suppose i didn't get the terminology right... isn't a BBH always connecting the same number of lines together? 17:09:45 <Phazorx> avdg: actually flash player is most performance hungry applet for last few years arond the world 17:09:52 <avdg> I know 17:09:53 <Phazorx> i seen IBM inernal report 17:09:55 <Baeda> i.e. a t_hub where a LLRR ML joins another LLRR ML? 17:09:59 <avdg> but from few % to 50 17:10:31 <Phazorx> Baeda: i suggest reading wiki on that and no your definition is not correct 17:11:25 <Phazorx> avdg: i seen IBM inernal report they very close to issuing a memo on blocking flash at FW level due to high cpu usage (it comes close to 80% of cpu time there) 17:11:42 <Phazorx> that's obviously for employees PCs not servers :) 17:12:20 <avdg> :) 17:12:26 <Phazorx> reason is leaky code and bad application design which leads to a lot of endless loops 17:12:41 <Phazorx> and 50% just means it consumes as much power as it can get on dual core system 17:13:02 <avdg> ok, it idled to 20% now… wtf 17:13:17 <Phazorx> it probably was playing a video and fetching banner ads? 17:13:30 <avdg> 50% before playing, 20% after 17:13:31 <Phazorx> Baeda: key difference is in usage pattern of SL and ML 17:13:54 <avdg> looks like some %'s are fixed if I play the clip 17:14:17 <Phazorx> an BBH is a hub that joins several ML legs (could be different width in terms of lanes) usualy all traffic through a BBH is equal 17:14:42 <Phazorx> brb sorry need to anwer door 17:14:44 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 17:15:30 *** roboboy has quit IRC 17:18:01 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (connection lost) 17:19:12 *** welterde has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:05 <nighthawkcm> thats weird, I have a Train depot, create a train and send it out, it is supposed to drive past SLH 1 and SLH 2 to get off the ML at SLH 3 - instead it takes off the ML at SLH 1 and makes a turn around to inject itself into ML and continue on the right route ... 17:24:39 <Baeda> bad signalling on SLH maybe 17:24:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> did you checked the orders and the route of the train? 17:24:56 <nighthawkcm> orders are fine 17:25:06 <nighthawkcm> signalling is the same as on the other hubs 17:26:13 <Baeda> try to remove the possibility to turn around on the Sidelines (by destroying tracks.. save first) and look what happens to the train 17:27:22 <nighthawkcm> lol, he runs to the end of a station whre other trains wait for their goods, cant destroy that really 17:27:38 *** skol has joined #openttdcoop 17:27:41 <skol> !download win32 17:27:41 <PublicServer> skol: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 17:27:57 <Baeda> thats why i said you should save first hehe :P 17:28:47 <Baeda> so your train doesnt pass your SLH straight through? 17:29:01 <Baeda> !name baeda 17:29:20 <Baeda> ops 17:29:31 <nighthawkcm> Yeah, it could travel on the outer L lane of my LL5RR ML - but instead it loops on SLH 1 to run on ther inner L lane 17:29:37 <skol> !password 17:29:37 <PublicServer> skol: cleave 17:30:22 <PublicServer> *** Skol joined the game 17:30:24 <PublicServer> <Skol> aaah!!!! 17:30:53 <Baeda> so check your signals on the outer L line... in many cases it's just one little block signal facing the wrong way ;) 17:31:27 <nighthawkcm> but they would continue untill that wrong signal or not? 17:31:36 <Baeda> nope 17:31:46 <nighthawkcm> omg .. it so long :-/ 17:31:54 <Baeda> they see " oh my i cant go on on that track where i want to go" 17:31:58 <nighthawkcm> im gonna make some dinner before I start hunting ... 17:32:29 <Baeda> so it's "hm let's take some weird tour around the landscape to get where i want to go" 17:32:50 <Baeda> but what you can do... 17:33:05 <Baeda> set up a depot on the outer L line right before the hub 17:33:22 <Baeda> and after the hub you set up a waypoint 17:33:40 <Baeda> then you kick off a train that you tell to got to the waypoint 17:34:14 <Baeda> if it's leaving the outer L line you know it's bad signalling and/or a piece of worng track 17:34:16 <Phazorx> ...back 17:34:25 <Phazorx> sorry about that 17:34:25 <Baeda> welcome back :) 17:34:37 <Phazorx> Baeda: you need further explanations or you read the wiki? 17:34:41 <Baeda> no problem, we keep ourselves entertained here :) 17:35:16 <nighthawkcm> i checked the tracks, should be fine .. wrong signal probaly .. 17:35:23 <Baeda> i need a vast amount of explanation anyways but i read the wiki quite a few times now actually (did so before aswell) 17:35:28 <Phazorx> nighthawkcm: just force a train to the way you think it should go by removing tracks where it turns away 17:35:37 <Phazorx> (quickly replacing them back) 17:35:50 <Phazorx> and it will stop in front of bad signal 17:36:20 <PublicServer> *** Skol has left the game (leaving) 17:36:33 *** skol has quit IRC 17:36:47 <Phazorx> Baeda: so anyway there are 2 major types of train lines which coop uses for most networking 17:36:52 <Phazorx> these are ML and SL 17:37:03 <Baeda> *nods* 17:37:12 *** skol has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:22 <skol> how do I get the password for the competition server? Want to spectate. 17:37:26 <Baeda> SL => primary industries 17:37:27 <skol> Because that's how I spend my time! 17:37:33 <Phazorx> ML is a part of track between major nodes (BBH/SLH/MSH) which does not directly connects to anything 17:37:37 *** phatmatt has quit IRC 17:37:48 <Baeda> yes 17:38:06 <Phazorx> SL is a part of track between SLH and a primary pickups 17:38:43 <Phazorx> so trains taking any specific SLH can only go to or from industries directly conencted to that SL which SLH hooks with ML 17:38:49 <Phazorx> there is no through traffic on SLs 17:39:17 <Phazorx> ML on the other hand does not have any hookups whatsoever and only has through traffic 17:39:33 <Baeda> *listens carefully* :) 17:39:50 <Baeda> so: a SL is always a dead-end right? 17:39:51 <nighthawkcm> found a error signal ..... 17:40:03 <nighthawkcm> a dead end / lasso 17:40:10 <Baeda> trains pass SLH and need to turn around to leave the SL again 17:40:11 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 17:40:14 <Phazorx> Baeda: exactly, SL also have only one splitter and one merger on it 17:40:23 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 17:40:26 <Baeda> yea i got that so far 17:40:29 <Phazorx> Baeda: didnt get the last one 17:40:45 *** skol has quit IRC 17:40:47 <nighthawkcm> one splitter and merger? 17:41:07 <Phazorx> trains either take SLH to exit to SL to pickup/drop something or pass an slh along he ml if they have no business on that SL 17:41:15 <XeryusTC> Phazorx: a SL is the line out of a SL, the line to the primary station from the SL is called a branch line :P 17:41:29 <Baeda> a train heading to primary #1 takes SLH #1 .... so it cannot leave the SL#1 unless it turns around (what happens at the pickupstation) 17:41:55 <Phazorx> Baeda: yes, only thought a station 17:42:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003842: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003842.png 17:42:13 <Phazorx> and there should be enterable depots on SL as well 17:42:28 <Baeda> for overflow? 17:42:55 <Phazorx> well some kinds of networks require overflow but these are different thing 17:43:08 <Phazorx> in general overflow tracks and depots are only used temoporary 17:43:21 <Phazorx> and any station should have just as many trains as it needs 17:43:37 <Baeda> yep okay 17:43:43 <Phazorx> so adding 50 instead of having 10 and builing an overflow loop/depot is a no-no 17:44:03 <Baeda> yea wouldn't have done so actually ;) 17:44:40 <Phazorx> anyway... so because of SL and ML being as described you have 2 sitations 17:44:48 <Phazorx> either an SL meets ML or ML meets ML 17:44:53 <Phazorx> SL never meets another SL 17:45:00 <Baeda> yep 17:45:07 <Phazorx> so SL + ML = SLH 17:46:12 <Baeda> and ml+ml = BBH yes. 17:46:25 <Baeda> BUT in the wiki it says as follows: 17:46:28 <Phazorx> in general ML implies that traffic on it should be equalized across all lanes and hence trains taking off on particular SLH can be on ny of ML lanes - so youu need to exit from all lanes (special cases may apply actually) 17:47:20 <Baeda> go on sorry 17:47:26 <Phazorx> also based on smae principle you should instert trainss from SL back into ML spreading them across lanes (picking least busy) and since ML traffic is already on ML - it gets a right-of-way 17:47:47 <Phazorx> so you need a prioritized mergers which is actualy can get rather complex as you get more lanes 17:48:21 <Baeda> so let's say we have a LLRR ML and LR SL. 17:48:43 <Phazorx> on BBH on the other hand prioritizers are rarely needed and usualy looked down since they are a sign of a strange net plan, but at same time it is normal for BBH not to have some durections mixed based on traffic patterns 17:49:17 <Baeda> so i need to connect L of SL to each L of ML and so on. but how do i get trains to the least used track of the ML? 17:49:21 <Phazorx> so for example a BBH may only have turning traffic and no through traffic or one leg on BBH may not connect to some other leg on BBH, again based on traffic patterns 17:49:43 <Phazorx> Baeda: well first you have differnt kinds of SLHs 17:50:35 *** Vladimir has joined #openttdcoop 17:50:50 <Phazorx> like if an SLH is directional (it takes traffic from some direction and insert traffic back into same direction, say uoi have E-W ML and sideline going S, where cargo from stations on that SL only goes to E - you have a quarter-SLH 17:51:06 <Vladimir> @quickstart 17:51:08 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 17:51:19 <Phazorx> where yuo only split traffic coming from E and you only insert traffic back to E and W is neither split not merged 17:51:53 <Baeda> because all other directions are useless right? 17:51:57 <Phazorx> yup 17:52:12 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 17:52:13 <Baeda> okay. so maybe we have a wood drop on the far E 17:52:16 <Phazorx> and a full-SLH would be when all directions are split from and merged into 17:52:35 <Vladimir> !help 17:52:35 <PublicServer> Vladimir: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:53:05 <Baeda> all SLH (only transporting wood) need to exit ML coming from E and joining back heading E 17:53:14 <Vladimir> !curve 17:53:14 <PublicServer> Vladimir: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Max_Curve_Speed 17:53:28 <Vladimir> !info 17:53:28 <PublicServer> Vladimir: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'planetmaker's World' Year Founded: 1950 Money: 13563704 Loan: 0 Value: 13664182 (T:1, R:0, P:10, S:0) unprotected 17:53:40 <Phazorx> Baeda: sounds okay for a star/cross kind of network layout 17:53:55 <Vladimir> !players 17:53:56 <PublicServer> Vladimir: Client 74 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:53:56 <PublicServer> Vladimir: Client 84 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:53:56 <PublicServer> Vladimir: Client 76 (Orange) is baeda #1, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 17:53:56 <PublicServer> Vladimir: Client 62 is V453000, a spectator 17:53:58 <Phazorx> where you have MLs going into some direction and into a dead end 17:54:56 <Baeda> why? even if the ML is a loop you would need this kind of SLH (in upper case) do you not? 17:55:37 <Baeda> it just depends where the empty trains leave the wood drop 17:55:40 <Phazorx> if ML is a loop train go back ino ML in opposite direction from which they came from usualy 17:55:48 <Phazorx> unless you have 2 loops going different directions 17:56:09 <Baeda> uhm maybe we have some missunderstanding here? 17:56:30 <Phazorx> you mentioned that your drop is E from SL 17:56:30 <Baeda> when i say loop you think it's CW or CCW one-dir? 17:57:15 <Baeda> just made up one example yes. 17:57:21 <Phazorx> i dont really thing specifics when you just say "a loop" which is why clarify that only with 2 loops going different directions trains would go back where they came from 17:57:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> we should lower the count of planes 17:57:56 <Phazorx> so in case of a signle loop going CW trains can only go that direction from any SL 17:58:00 <Baeda> (btw maybe i'm using wrong words sometimes .... english isn't my first laguage) 17:58:19 <Phazorx> not my first either, so there might be some more semantical differences :) 17:58:32 <Baeda> so where are you from? 17:58:48 <Phazorx> i'm russian :) 17:58:52 <Phazorx> but i live in canada 17:58:58 <Phazorx> but i am in finland at the moment 17:59:12 <Phazorx> and going to australia in ahile :) 17:59:25 <Phazorx> so "from" is a difficult question to answer :) 17:59:26 <Baeda> oh so suggesting to continue in german isnt apropriate :P 17:59:46 <Phazorx> wont help, although i am supposed to know german - i do not :) 17:59:54 <Baeda> haha ;) 17:59:59 <Phazorx> not to the level when i can efficiently use it at least :) 18:00:46 <Baeda> ah well english is fine actually. most problems may just come frome me not knowing the terminology :P 18:01:07 <Baeda> (altough i thought i would) :( 18:01:13 <Phazorx> anyway - in case of two-directional ML (loopy or not) and only one kind of cargo transported for any SL you need half-SLHs 18:01:34 <Baeda> truly spoken! okay. 18:01:42 <Phazorx> which take traffic from some direction and output it back to same direction 18:01:54 <Baeda> *nods* 18:02:09 <Phazorx> yet, in case of LL_RR - you still need to balance traffic between lanes of ML when insterted 18:02:25 <Phazorx> so prioritized balancers are to be used 18:02:50 <Baeda> but the balancing is i.e. a NOT-gated flip-flop? 18:02:51 <Phazorx> it isnt most complicated case of an SLH but it can be quite bulky depenending on TL 18:03:09 <Phazorx> that really depends on network type and flow 18:04:03 <Phazorx> flip flops arent bes way imo - it is better to use a set of prios to determine which lanes is free and try to merge incoming trains into that one 18:04:09 <Baeda> hum... how else can you balance? by waiting bays... and if one is full trains are being sent to the other line? 18:04:25 <Phazorx> well i made an article on blog a while ago 18:04:28 <Phazorx> lemme find it :) 18:04:39 <Baeda> yaaay gimme the info :o) 18:07:04 <nighthawkcm> when you branch in or out of the ML - every signal gap at a split should be 1 TL so a hold up train doesnt block the ML with its fat ass 18:08:14 *** Zulan has quit IRC 18:10:19 <nighthawkcm> Baeda - and example for a pretty well balanced LL5RR ML that branches into a SL 18:10:20 <nighthawkcm> http://de.tinypic.com/r/153vibl/5 18:10:21 <Webster> Title: Image - TinyPic - Kostenlose Bild- und Videospeicherung und gemeinsame Nutzung von Fotos (at de.tinypic.com) 18:10:30 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 18:10:30 *** Vladimir has quit IRC 18:12:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000199D3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000199D3.png 18:13:15 <De_Ghosty> wth 18:13:17 <De_Ghosty> candy land? 18:13:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> yep 18:13:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> we are not joking 18:13:35 <De_Ghosty> at least it's not eye cancer 18:13:36 <De_Ghosty> whahah 18:14:47 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 18:14:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> no new plans :( 18:15:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> yep, im planless 18:18:08 *** Absurd-Mind has joined #openttdcoop 18:18:39 <Absurd-Mind> @quickstart 18:18:41 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 18:18:50 <Absurd-Mind> !help 18:18:50 <PublicServer> Absurd-Mind: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 18:20:29 <avdg> @calc 1+1 18:20:30 <Webster> avdg: 2 18:20:48 <avdg> @calc the answer to life, the universe, and everything 18:20:56 <avdg> hmm :p 18:21:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> still only 14 mill :( 18:22:38 <nighthawkcm> 42 18:22:48 <avdg> its not google :( 18:22:51 <avdg> :p 18:25:41 <avdg> I've had this: (notice) Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1) 18:26:05 <mrruben5> oh man 18:26:13 <mrruben5> I love the replace vehicles order :D 18:26:22 <avdg> :) 18:26:43 <avdg> thats why we fell in love with openttd :) 18:26:47 <mrruben5> does calc do comparisons as well? 18:26:56 <mrruben5> @calc (true) 18:27:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00019BD9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00019BD9.png 18:27:15 <mrruben5> @calc (5==6) 18:27:15 <Webster> mrruben5: 0 18:27:26 <mrruben5> @calc (5==5) 18:27:26 <Webster> mrruben5: 1 18:27:27 <ODM> he owns your true 18:27:30 <mrruben5> :P! 18:27:39 <avdg> whats the calc using? 18:27:43 <ODM> @calc (1) 18:27:43 <Webster> ODM: 1 18:27:46 <ODM> there we go 18:27:56 <avdg> @calc 1**1 18:27:56 <Webster> avdg: 1 18:28:12 <avdg> @calc 1|1 18:28:18 <mrruben5> @calc 1++ 18:28:21 <avdg> whoops 18:28:24 <ODM> aw come on guys:P 18:28:24 <mrruben5> booh! 18:29:15 *** ODM has quit IRC 18:29:25 <avdg> @calc for(;;); 18:29:27 <avdg> :p 18:30:31 <PublicServer> *** baeda #1 has left the game (connection lost) 18:30:37 <mrruben5> never new that airplanes are such a nice way to make money by the way 18:31:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> you think :) 18:31:17 <mrruben5> 15 million income from 32 planes at 1965 18:31:23 <mrruben5> a year 18:31:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> on most servers planes are slow down so much that they don't make profit 18:32:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> *slowed 18:33:02 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 18:33:16 <XeryusTC> baaaah 18:33:24 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 18:33:42 <avdg> ? is someone trying to join? 18:34:10 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 18:34:11 <XeryusTC> you? 18:34:16 <avdg> !players 18:34:18 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 74 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 18:34:18 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 84 (Orange) is avdg, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 18:34:18 <PublicServer> avdg: Client 62 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 18:34:24 <XeryusTC> he disconnectered 18:34:32 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 18:34:36 <avdg> :p 18:34:57 <Absurd-Mind> i wanted to watch :( 18:34:59 <avdg> :p I want to grab his ip 18:35:07 <avdg> do !password 18:35:13 <Absurd-Mind> i did 18:35:24 <Absurd-Mind> gnaaah, it changed... 18:35:29 <avdg> :) 18:35:30 *** Baeda_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:35:38 <avdg> psw changes every 5 min 18:35:44 <PublicServer> *** Player joined the game 18:35:45 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 18:35:52 <avdg> ty webster :) 18:36:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> open console (button left of 1) 18:36:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> and type "name <nick>" 18:37:03 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to Absurd-Mind 18:37:18 <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> ah, thx, very friendly :) 18:37:39 <Absurd-Mind> waaah, hilighted /o\ 18:37:55 <avdg> :) 18:39:05 *** Baeda_ has quit IRC 18:39:26 <Phazorx> Baeda: ? 18:42:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> *adds an airport 18:42:14 *** Baeda has quit IRC 18:42:34 *** nubn has joined #openttdcoop 18:51:53 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (connection lost) 18:52:04 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 18:52:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi 18:52:20 <PublicServer> <tneo> hello 18:52:45 <PublicServer> <tneo> toy? 18:52:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 18:52:54 <PublicServer> <tneo> thought we never do that on coop :-l 18:53:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> propably not 18:53:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> i've builded a new airport, and its underserved now 18:53:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> but there is a plane limit 18:54:39 <PublicServer> <tneo> and you want me to do something now ? 18:54:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno who set it :p 18:55:17 <tneo> !aircrafts 18:55:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> a small bit more can help 18:55:45 <tneo> !rcon set max_aircaft 18:55:45 <PublicServer> tneo: 'max_aircaft' is an unknown setting. 18:55:49 <tneo> !rcon set max_aircafts 18:55:49 <PublicServer> tneo: 'max_aircafts' is an unknown setting. 18:55:54 <tneo> pffff 18:55:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 18:57:04 <avdg> r 18:57:14 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CFB9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0002CFB9.png 18:57:19 <tneo> !rcon set max_aircraft 18:57:19 <PublicServer> tneo: Current value for 'max_aircraft' is: '10' (min: 0, max: 5000) 18:57:30 <tneo> !rcon set max_aircraft 20 18:57:36 <tneo> typo :-P 18:57:41 <tneo> there avdg :-) 18:57:45 <avdg> ty 18:59:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> income is better now 19:02:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> 25 years and still stuck on 16 mill :p 19:07:21 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> tneo's plan looks like pedobear :P:P 19:07:38 <PublicServer> <tneo> ? 19:07:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> zoom out :p 19:08:11 <PublicServer> <tneo> i seem to miss the point 19:08:40 <PublicServer> <tneo> heheh 19:10:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) looks nice 19:10:51 <PublicServer> <tneo> there done :-) 19:11:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm still not sure about the lines capacity 19:11:17 <PublicServer> <tneo> always able to upgrade :-) 19:11:23 <PublicServer> <tneo> toy land is never massive 19:11:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> previous WAS :p 19:11:46 <PublicServer> <tneo> then we can upgrade :-) 19:12:16 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002A60: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002A60.png 19:12:38 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> hmm I like tneo's plan 19:12:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> I like it, but I'm not sure 19:13:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> it still needs some spices 19:14:08 <PublicServer> <tneo> like? 19:14:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, it looks just too simple that it misses something 19:14:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> I know simple is a good thing 19:14:44 <PublicServer> <tneo> it is KISS style ;-) 19:15:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> just the candy factory :p 19:15:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> *junction :p 19:15:18 <PublicServer> <tneo> :-) 19:15:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> I know what we are missing :p 19:15:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> the eyes :) 19:15:56 <PublicServer> <tneo> hehe 19:16:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> removed my vote 19:16:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> i'm undecided now 19:17:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> k 19:17:06 <PublicServer> <Absurd-Mind> i like the complexity of V453000s plan :P 19:17:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> its just bit too complex for me 19:17:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> but tneo is too simple 19:17:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a yes for his plan, if the ml's allows easy expantion 19:19:52 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 19:20:47 <dashing> is there a way to get signals bigger ? 19:20:53 <dashing> as in look bigger on the screen 19:21:14 <dashing> im really having trouble seeing what various signals are used in this tutorial map 19:21:31 <Phazorx> use different grf for signals? 19:21:44 <Phazorx> OpenGFX imo did a bad job 19:21:56 <dashing> how do i do that ? 19:22:03 <KenjiE20> lower res in fullscreen might help 19:22:18 <dashing> i can see everything else just fine 19:24:07 *** welterde has quit IRC 19:25:59 <Phazorx> dashing: do you have original game? 19:26:14 <dashing> i do, somewhere 19:26:43 <Phazorx> i mean do signals as in original grf look okay to you? 19:27:01 <dashing> i honestly dont know 19:27:04 <dashing> ive not used signals before 19:27:12 <Phazorx> ;o) 19:27:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004443: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004443.png 19:27:42 <Phazorx> kamikazi trains with blindfolded machinists yelling "geronimo" when crossing tracks? 19:28:05 <dashing> no my entire train system was single line terminus stations 19:28:12 <dashing> and no station was connected to more than 1 other 19:28:50 <Phazorx> well you can use original GRFs from ttd 19:29:06 <dashing> didnt even know tt had 12 different signals :D 19:29:18 <Phazorx> which you can either copy from game you have or DL off some site whichever is faster 19:29:20 <KenjiE20> tt doesn't 19:29:23 <KenjiE20> openttd does 19:29:41 <KenjiE20> and there are only 6 19:29:48 <KenjiE20> with two types of graphics 19:30:10 <dashing> oh 19:30:13 <Phazorx> dashing: http://www.owenrudge.net/download/download?t=1&id=129 19:30:14 <Webster> Title: Owen's Transport Tycoon Station - Select Download Mirror (at www.owenrudge.net) 19:30:46 <Phazorx> grab content of data and copy it to where data files are for openttd in your case 19:30:46 <dashing> thanks 19:31:11 <dashing> will that make it incompatible with the public server ? 19:31:19 <KenjiE20> no 19:31:29 <Phazorx> these are client side onl changes 19:31:41 <KenjiE20> basesets are all just graphic replacements 19:32:05 <Progman> Absurd-Mind: *wink* 19:32:07 <dashing> i see 19:32:19 <Absurd-Mind> Progman: *zurückwink* 19:32:23 <dashing> so replacing the stuff in the data folder with original will only change signals ? 19:32:48 <KenjiE20> no 19:32:53 <Phazorx> placing original grfs will not do anythin at all 19:33:05 <Phazorx> you have to select original or opengfx 19:33:25 <dashing> aha 19:33:30 <Phazorx> which i think is at bottom of main scren you see at start of openttd 19:33:40 <Phazorx> but it replaces mroe than just signals 19:33:43 <KenjiE20> game options 19:35:22 <dashing> ill have a look, thanks :) 19:36:28 <KenjiE20> @msn basegrf 19:36:33 <KenjiE20> @asn basegrf 19:36:35 <KenjiE20> @man basegrf 19:36:37 <Webster> Search results - OpenTTD - http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=basegrf 19:37:07 <KenjiE20> bah, nothing 19:42:20 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002E62: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002E62.png 19:46:21 *** heffer has quit IRC 19:47:02 <dashing> there is no datafolder in the TTD file from owenrudge 19:47:41 <dashing> theres several grf files, but they are in the root folder, do i use those ? 19:48:02 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 19:48:21 <KenjiE20> OpenTTDdo-not-readme 4.2 19:51:39 <mrruben5> hmm 19:51:54 <mrruben5> any examples of merging 10 > 2? 19:52:13 <XeryusTC> ah 19:52:16 <XeryusTC> original TTD music :D 19:53:06 <KenjiE20> badabababaabaaaaa, badabadabadadadaaaaaa 20:02:58 <XeryusTC> indeed, indeed. 20:03:13 <Absurd-Mind> when do you start building? 20:03:27 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 20:03:27 *** avdg has quit IRC 20:03:39 <KenjiE20> @quickstart 20:03:41 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 20:04:18 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 20:04:45 <Absurd-Mind> as i can see it, there is clear winner in the voting ;) 20:07:31 <Phazorx> 10>2? 20:07:40 <Phazorx> is that a station exit? 20:14:29 <mrruben5> phazorx: yeah 20:14:36 <mrruben5> and 2>10 :) 20:16:22 <V453000> really the best to look up the archive :) 20:16:22 <Phazorx> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/12/30/efficient-stations-and-tight-packed-train-streams/ 20:16:24 <KenjiE20> than handle it like normal ML split lines 20:16:31 <KenjiE20> or like the blog 20:16:51 <Phazorx> that has a save with 5>1 20:21:25 <mrruben5> phazorx: I see, nice! 20:27:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00001E2D.png 20:35:58 *** Phazorx is now known as FS1063 20:41:45 *** heffer has quit IRC 20:43:19 <planetmaker> avdg here? 20:43:32 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 20:43:33 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 has left the game (connection lost) 20:43:34 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 20:43:56 <mrruben5> !password 20:43:56 <PublicServer> mrruben5: psalms 20:43:58 <planetmaker> avdg: the issue with the broken download: it's zlib 1.2.4. If you install the old zlib 1.2.3_3 it works. 20:44:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 20:44:06 <PublicServer> *** MrRuben5 joined the game 20:44:37 *** leg3nd^ has joined #openttdcoop 20:45:44 *** leg3nd has quit IRC 20:48:24 <^Spike^> is goed 20:48:28 <^Spike^> wrong screen 20:48:33 <^Spike^> wrong monitor even 20:48:40 <^Spike^> wanted to put that in my game instead of here.. 20:48:52 <nighthawkcm> can anyone tell me what you guys usually do to bring your primary industries to such high production levels like usually seen in the save games? 20:49:14 <^Spike^> have enough trains loading 20:49:26 <V453000> and service them for hundreds of years :P 20:49:37 <nighthawkcm> ah, first part is supplied 20:50:24 <nighthawkcm> is a newer game version needed for this game then for the last? 20:50:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 20:50:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> see topic 20:50:59 <^Spike^> !rev 20:51:04 <^Spike^> !revision 20:51:05 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: Game version is r19594 20:51:09 <^Spike^> !show something 20:51:10 <^Spike^> oh.. 20:51:10 <^Spike^> :) 20:51:29 <^Spike^> that's the rev nighthawkcm :) 20:51:41 <nighthawkcm> ah kk, so I jsut need the new download 20:52:10 <^Spike^> !tell nighthawkcm about dl 20:52:10 <PublicServer> nighthawkcm: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 20:52:13 <^Spike^> :) 20:52:34 <nighthawkcm> ^^ 20:52:44 <nighthawkcm> !dl win32 20:52:44 <PublicServer> nighthawkcm: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 20:52:54 <^Spike^> seems that typing in wrong screen was good for something in the end :) 20:54:12 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 20:55:18 <nighthawkcm> !password 20:55:19 <PublicServer> nighthawkcm: psalms 20:55:50 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m joined the game 20:56:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> and welcome back :) 20:58:22 <nighthawkcm> what does kiss stand for? 20:58:38 <Absurd-Mind> keep it simple, stupid 20:59:57 <Absurd-Mind> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle 20:59:58 <Webster> Title: KISS principle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 21:01:01 <dashing> what was the link to the newest client ? 21:01:10 <dashing> !dl win32 21:01:10 <PublicServer> dashing: http://nl.binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19594/openttd-trunk-r19594-windows-win32.zip 21:01:26 <dashing> im self sufficient \o/ 21:02:37 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (connection lost) 21:02:56 <dashing> !password 21:02:56 <PublicServer> dashing: soaked 21:03:10 <PublicServer> *** dashing joined the game 21:03:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome 21:03:23 <PublicServer> <dashing> Hia 21:03:35 <PublicServer> <dashing> whats wrong with the trees :o 21:03:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> nothing 21:04:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> just toyland 21:04:49 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:04:57 <PublicServer> <dashing> oh 21:05:31 <PublicServer> <dashing> what are you doing in this one ? 21:05:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> planning 21:06:50 <PublicServer> <dashing> where mainline etc goes ? 21:06:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> planning 21:07:05 <V453000> @quickstart 21:07:07 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:07:10 <V453000> ^ 21:08:45 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> if tneos plan wins the voting ill even be able to help, not a too difficult network he suggests there 21:08:47 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 21:09:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you think my network is harder? :D 21:09:31 <XeryusTC> hmm 21:09:36 <XeryusTC> screenshot of tneo's plan plox? 21:09:46 <PublicServer> <dashing> those small areas of track in the top corner is a scale model of the whole map ? 21:10:06 <V453000> !screen 21:10:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 made screenshot at 00002E3D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002E3D.png 21:10:09 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> its a rough sketch of the idea 21:10:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> it makes it fonfusing :) I know 21:10:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> in fact it is simple 21:11:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> making things expandable is harder than making them big from the start ;) 21:12:44 <PublicServer> <dashing> id like to see stuff being built, but i guess thats a while until ? 21:12:55 <V453000> yes 21:13:12 <V453000> voting will start no sooner than tomorrow evening to give everyone chance to post a plan 21:13:30 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> your plan looks cool V, just more complicated 21:13:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> dam 21:13:38 <PublicServer> <dashing> eep :o 21:13:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt complicated 21:13:43 <PublicServer> <dashing> how long does a game last ? 21:13:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> who knows 21:13:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends 21:13:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1-4 weeks 21:15:18 <PublicServer> <dashing> the planes is to make money so you can go straight to building the huge network ? 21:15:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> did you read the quickstart? 21:15:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... answer is yes 21:16:01 <PublicServer> <dashing> it said coal lines and PBX 21:16:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> ehh 21:16:12 <PublicServer> <dashing> PAX * 21:17:08 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> there is a remark at the end that planes can be used too - most servers slow plane flight time down so its back to coal - but not here 21:17:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> this is not other servers 21:17:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> or most 21:17:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> planes are better because they dont devastate the map by boosting coal mines 21:18:22 <PublicServer> <dashing> coal is undesireable for a big network ? 21:18:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 21:18:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> but do we want to have 90% cargo coal? 21:20:03 <PublicServer> <dashing> yesterdays game looked like it was mostly lumber :) 21:20:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> ýes 21:20:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> that was part of plan 21:20:37 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> typical, srnw networks are better to handle only few types of cargos as far as i understood 21:20:40 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 21:21:01 <FS1063> nighthawkcm: you need one srnw per cargo 21:21:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> but when you are making you dont even know you dont want t oboost coal 21:21:14 <PublicServer> <dashing> srnw ? 21:21:17 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 21:21:20 <FS1063> @srnw 21:21:20 <Webster> srnw: Self-regulating Network, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/SRNW 21:21:30 <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 21:23:53 <PublicServer> <dashing> ok that stuff was beyond me :p 21:24:09 <FS1063> more fun for you to discover later 21:24:19 <V453000> ye 21:25:38 <PublicServer> <nighthawk_c_m> i stay away from srnw myself, ill try it when a psg builds it 21:27:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003427: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003427.png 21:29:05 <PublicServer> *** nighthawk_c_m has left the game (leaving) 21:30:00 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 21:30:07 <Kommer> Hello people 21:30:13 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind has left the game (leaving) 21:30:18 <Kommer> !password 21:30:18 <PublicServer> Kommer: albino 21:30:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:30:28 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 21:30:39 <Kommer> oh no, no toyland :) 21:30:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> why not 21:30:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> get opengfx if you dont like it 21:31:06 <PublicServer> <Kommer> ow relax. it's fine ;) 21:31:10 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (connection lost) 21:31:37 <Kommer> but hows life here? I hope fine. Has been a VERY VERY long time. :) Saw my membership message :) My love for openttd has come back since v1.0.0 :P 21:32:03 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 21:32:57 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has joined company #1 21:33:28 <Kommer> # of members has really increased. Nice to see that all is still active here! 21:33:30 <nighthawkcm> how does it look with opengfx? 21:33:46 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 21:33:58 <V453000> !password 21:33:58 <PublicServer> V453000: albino 21:34:04 <PublicServer> <Kommer> euh. ok to me, toy stuff everywhere :) 21:34:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:35:08 <Kommer> hmm. no connection to the game chat anymore? 21:35:13 <PublicServer> <Kommer> .. 21:35:16 <PublicServer> <Kommer> test 21:35:31 <PublicServer> <Kommer> only one way i think? 21:35:44 <nighthawkcm> works 21:36:21 <PublicServer> <Kommer> dont see any of the game chat in the irc channel. only V453000 messages 21:36:26 *** P69 has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:57 <nighthawkcm> works fine for me 21:37:11 <PublicServer> <Kommer> maybe its my irc client :) 21:37:12 <nighthawkcm> unless i dont see what v types if he types 21:37:24 <PublicServer> <Kommer> or some config thingie 21:37:38 *** Kommer has quit IRC 21:37:51 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:18 <P69> !password 21:39:18 <PublicServer> P69: albino 21:40:19 <FS1063> hey Kommer :o) 21:42:27 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002863: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002863.png 21:44:28 *** P69 has left #openttdcoop 21:45:24 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 21:47:50 *** Kommer has quit IRC 21:47:54 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 21:48:44 <avdg> !password 21:48:44 <PublicServer> avdg: innate 21:48:56 *** smoovi has quit IRC 21:48:57 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:52:25 <nighthawkcm> night guys 21:52:34 <avdg> gn 21:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> gn 21:52:40 *** nighthawkcm has quit IRC 21:54:44 <PublicServer> <Kommer> good night 21:54:57 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving) 21:55:37 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 21:57:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029BD5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00029BD5.png 21:57:54 *** Kommer has quit IRC 21:58:05 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 21:59:09 <Kommer> !help 21:59:09 <PublicServer> Kommer: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 22:00:50 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 22:03:10 *** Barbaar has joined #openttdcoop 22:03:28 <Barbaar> !password 22:03:28 <PublicServer> Barbaar: deceit 22:03:35 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar joined the game 22:03:40 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> Hey guys 22:04:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> V453000: looks like tneo changes the permutations :p 22:04:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi barbaar 22:04:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aw man, my eyes are bleeding already :p 22:04:18 <V453000> ? permutations? 22:04:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> check voting board 22:04:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah whats wrong 22:05:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> his plan looks like a teddy bear, thats why everybody loves his plan :p 22:05:23 <leg3nd^> !password 22:05:23 <PublicServer> leg3nd^: deceit 22:05:29 <V453000> thats true 22:06:00 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd joined the game 22:06:00 <V453000> this time estetics are obviously the main thing :) 22:06:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> no, serious, I think that your plan is bit too complicated 22:06:59 <V453000> yeah 22:07:04 <V453000> thats what everybody thinks 22:07:08 <V453000> it isnt complicated 22:07:15 <V453000> thats what I think 22:07:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> there are a lot of 'wires' 22:08:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you look at them, they have a system 22:08:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> and they follow land nicely 22:08:20 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hmm all good plans :> 22:08:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> this type of plan mostly doesnt get voted because it just looks bad :) 22:08:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> but makes good games 22:08:34 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> thats a lot of hubs 22:08:35 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> cant decide what to vote :> 22:08:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> add more structure then :) (but do not overstructure :p) 22:08:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 22:08:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wont 22:08:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is simple enough 22:09:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> for me, structure is a key 22:09:09 *** Kommer has quit IRC 22:09:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> the key here is traffic spread 22:09:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> so LL_RR is very strong 22:09:24 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> check my conditions then :) 22:09:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> under tneo's plan 22:10:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> what does it have to do with this 22:10:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is completely different case :) 22:11:00 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> have 1 quastion KISS as in the band :> 22:11:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> keep it simple 22:11:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> KIS 22:11:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> , stupid 22:11:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> kiss 22:11:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:11:31 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> so kiss is keep it super simple :> 22:11:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 22:11:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> that too 22:11:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> might be written but it wont look so imo :) 22:11:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> check wikipedia 22:11:55 <Kommer> !password 22:11:55 <PublicServer> Kommer: deceit 22:11:59 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> hehe, pulling your legs :> 22:12:02 <V453000> but ask tneo about that, not me 22:12:27 <PublicServer> *** Kommer joined the game 22:12:31 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002465: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002465.png 22:12:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw. voting hasnt even started yet 22:13:04 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> its pretty few plans so far. 22:13:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> really? 22:13:29 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> well i dont know. last there where what 6 ? 22:13:47 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> but ofc. only seen 1 voting phase so far. so dont know what Avg. is. 22:14:19 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> think i'll make a plan too 22:14:32 <PublicServer> <Kommer> go ahead? 22:14:54 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> kommer, love the name its danish for "comming" 22:14:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you have an idea, a plan is always welcome :) 22:15:13 <PublicServer> <Kommer> i have always ideas but i'm not good at plans :) 22:16:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> I like Xeryus's plan ... but it is too similar to the last game =( 22:16:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> and I am trying to make games different because I find it more fun that way :] 22:16:43 <PublicServer> <Kommer> :) 22:17:35 <PublicServer> <Kommer> but, it's toyland ! so it will be different? 22:17:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> just the industries and the grf's 22:17:57 <PublicServer> <Kommer> yes ok true 22:18:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> well toyland also has no secondary like steel that is further delivered and processed 22:18:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> ah barbaar :) 22:18:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> but that is the same in tropic 22:18:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:18:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> is that all barbaar? 22:19:05 <PublicServer> <Kommer> what will be the ML? LLL_RRR? or more? 22:19:18 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> working on it, moment :) 22:19:19 <PublicServer> <Kommer> ah, he is still writing ;) 22:19:20 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 22:19:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> are all connections drawed yet? 22:19:56 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> Any of u recall what the bigges ML is u have had so far ? 22:20:07 *** Kommer has quit IRC 22:20:53 <PublicServer> <Kommer> euh, LLLLL_RRRRR or something? 22:21:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hehe, not sure yet 22:21:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:21:34 <PublicServer> <leg3nd> kommer thats pretty big.. 22:21:37 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i don't play ttd that often :) 22:21:44 <PublicServer> <Kommer> was a long time ago :) 22:21:49 <PublicServer> <Kommer> but sometimes you need it 22:21:55 *** Kommer has joined #openttdcoop 22:22:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> barbaar: you know the limits of your network? *just asking* 22:22:32 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah probably going to way too busy in the middle 22:22:45 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hmm, is there a 4th factory in toyland? 22:22:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> well mainly the fourth probably should be city 22:23:02 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah thought so 22:23:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> but how do you get the products there 22:23:21 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i'm thinking direct lines 22:25:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm ... I dont like that but I would rather advise to lead fizzy drinks over toy factory 22:25:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> because candy is more likely to be strong 22:25:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are dropped 3 cargos 22:25:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> others got 2 each 22:26:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> barbaar: if you are messing up your plan, you better start over :) 22:26:21 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> just trying something out 22:26:47 *** Kommer has quit IRC 22:27:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005C55: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005C55.png 22:27:36 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> doenst help there is so much water in the middle 22:27:53 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> no space for a big transfer station 22:27:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> true 22:35:51 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hmm, maybe to relieve pressure on lines to factory, use seperate lines for empty trains back to primaries 22:36:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> not sure if that will make the transfer station too complex 22:36:46 <PublicServer> *** leg3nd has left the game (leaving) 22:40:29 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 22:41:45 <PublicServer> <Kommer> goodnight 22:41:48 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> cya 22:41:48 <PublicServer> *** Kommer has left the game (leaving) 22:42:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005855: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005855.png 22:42:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats a crazy bbh :o 22:43:19 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> aye 22:43:20 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> haha 22:43:23 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> but I like :D 22:43:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks nearly impossible 22:43:40 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, no idea if this is possible sorry :) 22:43:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> keep at 3way junctions 22:44:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> and you come much father away 22:44:06 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 22:44:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> 4way is really the limit 22:44:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> still, you can breakdown such somplex junctions 22:44:50 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> it's only a lot of 3 ways next to eachother 22:45:09 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> still will take of too much space i guess 22:45:30 *** Baeda has joined #openttdcoop 22:45:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> probably, but not that 3ways can be build very small if the ml's aren't wide 22:45:51 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> we will have to put on global warming anyway 22:46:00 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:46:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> you stole my words 22:46:15 <Baeda> good evening there (got con breakdown few hours ago *snief*) 22:47:18 <Baeda> !password 22:47:18 <PublicServer> Baeda: neater 22:47:26 <PublicServer> *** baeda joined the game 22:47:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey Barbaar 22:47:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> whoops 22:47:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey Barbaar 22:47:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... 22:47:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> stopid tab 22:47:46 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hey :P 22:47:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey baeda 22:47:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> 3th right time :) 22:48:03 <Baeda> hehe hey :) 22:48:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> first 2 letter matched :( 22:51:21 <Baeda> avdg: hehe 22:51:30 <Baeda> bad tab-key :P 22:51:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah I would like to punish that key 22:51:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> 5 days no keydown :p 22:52:11 <PublicServer> <baeda> yay hit it hard *get's out the whip* 22:52:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats even better :) 22:52:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> altrough, I wouldn't see my macbook damaged :p 22:53:15 <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i'm not sure about track width, not nearly enough experience about that to make a good guess 22:53:23 <avdg> @stats 22:53:24 <Webster> avdg: I have 21 registered users with 23 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 5 admins. 22:53:35 <avdg> @ircstat 22:53:42 <avdg> uuuh :) 22:53:57 <avdg> nvm found it 22:54:03 <PublicServer> *** dashing has left the game (leaving) 22:57:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005E4D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00005E4D.png 22:58:35 <Barbaar> who made that plan in the screenshot? what a noob :p 22:58:55 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 22:59:16 <avdg> :D 22:59:20 * avdg keeps silence 22:59:47 * avdg goes to bed 22:59:56 <avdg> good morning 23:00:00 <avdg> see you all later :p 23:00:01 <Baeda> good night 23:00:23 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 23:00:33 *** avdg has quit IRC 23:01:06 <Baeda> the plan in scr is named :P hummm who would this be... 23:01:44 * Barbaar denies everything 23:01:50 <Baeda> :D 23:02:12 <XeryusTC> !topic 23:03:13 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:04:44 <Baeda> somehow toyland is eyecancer :< 23:04:47 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 23:08:22 <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game 23:09:29 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind joined the game 23:10:47 <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving) 23:10:52 <Barbaar> sleeping time, cya later 23:10:58 <Baeda> bye bye 23:11:15 *** Barbaar has quit IRC 23:12:02 <PublicServer> *** Absurd-Mind has left the game (leaving) 23:12:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002A64: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002A64.png 23:16:33 <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving) 23:23:08 *** FS1063 has left #openttdcoop 23:23:46 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:27:42 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002C65: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00002C65.png 23:28:40 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> god 23:28:49 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> one of my cities already has 40k residents 23:29:08 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> population even 23:29:36 <mrruben5> 12k passengers waiting 23:32:05 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 23:34:04 <Baeda> tested some pay s-bahn game lately with two cities. they grew rapidly to ~90k each then stopped. 23:34:30 <Baeda> i let it run over night with boundaries taken off nothing happened oO 23:42:15 <PublicServer> <MrRuben5> and I'm at 64 airplanes at one of my airports :) 23:42:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DE52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/0000DE52.png 23:42:46 <Baeda> dont they get huge waiting lines? :P 23:44:05 <PublicServer> *** baeda has left the game (connection lost) 23:44:05 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (not enough players) 23:44:13 <Baeda> !players 23:44:15 <PublicServer> Baeda: Client 104 (Orange) is MrRuben5, in company 1 (planetmaker's World) 23:44:35 <Baeda> i'm off. night 23:48:15 <XeryusTC> !topic 23:48:18 <XeryusTC> @topic 23:48:18 <Webster> XeryusTC: Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: mm & planning | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity 23:48:21 *** Benom has quit IRC 23:48:52 <V453000> yes, XeryusTC 23:48:58 <V453000> there is no voting :P 23:49:01 <XeryusTC> xD 23:49:16 <XeryusTC> @stage planning & voting 23:49:16 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #181 (r19594) | STAGE: planning & voting | http://openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart & !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity" 23:59:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC