Log for #openttdcoop on 23rd May 2010:
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00:00:30  * SmatZ added a vote to planetmaker's FS#3852
00:00:43  <SmatZ> also, I don't understand Alberth's answer...
00:00:53  <SmatZ> hmm now I do
00:01:16  <planetmaker> :-D
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00:30:39  <Barbaar> goodnight everyone
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01:07:33  <ed> !password
01:07:34  <PublicServer> ed: eagles
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07:02:30  <ed> !password
07:02:30  <PublicServer> ed: fusing
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08:18:57  <XeryusTC> !password
08:18:57  <PublicServer> XeryusTC: sultry
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09:26:45  <wouterr> !password
09:26:45  <PublicServer> wouterr: oldens
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09:48:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ola.
09:51:38  <[com]buster> Mornin'
09:51:50  <^Spike^> ellow
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09:52:06  <^Spike^> [com]buster the sml hub/connection from barbaar is wrong? right?
09:52:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Your comment makes no sense, TBH
09:53:07  <^Spike^> cause
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09:53:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> All the others are going to be SML, too.
09:53:46  <PublicServer> <Combuster> SML is a type of merger that makes expansion easier by moving mainline traffic around
09:53:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> See notwork plan.
09:53:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> instead of SL traffic
09:54:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That, too.
09:54:30  <^Spike^> which means the S SL is wrong?
09:54:50  <PublicServer> <Combuster> it is, actually
09:54:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, it means your comment misses target.
09:55:30  <PublicServer> <Combuster> that said
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09:55:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you can mix SML and non-SML merges
09:55:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> and it shouldn't break
09:55:59  <^Spike^> as far as i've seen it's less efficient to do so
09:56:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> you'd only get longer waiting times for inner tracks at non-SML joins
09:56:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's as may be, but as I said, the network plan calls for SML joins.
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09:57:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Meaning, Sonic's join has to be SMLed, yet.
09:57:27  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I !marked them already
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09:58:25  <PublicServer> <Spike> i missed the SML sign in plan can happen...
09:58:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> but since it technically reads WIP you can hardly take offence
09:58:41  <PublicServer> <Combuster> so it seems :)
09:58:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed, 'Buster.
09:59:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure t'ing, Spike.
09:59:35  <PublicServer> <Spike> but then wouldn't it have been better to have ML R_R_R_R?
09:59:54  <PublicServer> <Combuster> for space conservation, no
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10:11:32  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Spike: !space-efficient SML
10:11:46  <PublicServer> <Spike> Combuster:  i know that one
10:11:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> no need for R_R_R_R ;)
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10:15:01  <roysvork> @quickstart
10:15:05  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
10:15:31  <roysvork> !dl win32
10:15:31  <PublicServer> roysvork: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19874/openttd-trunk-r19874-windows-win32.zip
10:16:16  <PublicServer> <Spike> Mazur: got 2 comments i see a CL1 and you can prevent signal gaps at the bridges by conn..
10:16:23  <PublicServer> <Spike> ah you got that last one
10:16:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> now they all have space :)
10:16:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CL1, where?
10:17:00  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's just the CL 1
10:17:05  <PublicServer> <Spike> @ CL :)
10:17:10  <PublicServer> <Spike> i think Combuster signed it
10:17:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, yes.
10:17:20  <PublicServer> <Spike> CL1 CL.5.. round to 1 ;)
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10:17:40  <avdg> hi
10:17:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> i would go around that small hill
10:17:44  <avdg> !players
10:17:45  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 206 (Orange) is Mazur, in company 1 (Kosmonosy Transport)
10:17:45  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 208 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Kosmonosy Transport)
10:17:46  <PublicServer> avdg: Client 209 (Orange) is Spike, in company 1 (Kosmonosy Transport)
10:17:47  <PublicServer> <Combuster> actually round down
10:17:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> CL0? ;)
10:18:10  <PublicServer> <Combuster> some weirdt thing
10:18:18  <PublicServer> <Combuster> CL6 on straights, CL7 on curves
10:18:26  <PublicServer> <Combuster> (=CL6.5)
10:19:02  <roysvork> !password
10:19:03  <PublicServer> roysvork: warden
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10:19:18  <PublicServer> <Spike> and maybe try to connect where i layed that track...
10:19:23  * avdg compiles
10:19:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> If I go around the little hill, you get a bad curve near the station.
10:19:36  <PublicServer> <Spike> so more get infront of it then going under the entrace
10:19:43  <PublicServer> <Spike> there?
10:20:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Feel free.
10:20:27  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was only practising, anyway.
10:20:37  <PublicServer> <Spike> and we're trying to help :)
10:20:59  <PublicServer> <Spike> or like combuster suggested move it more N
10:21:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I know, but you might be quicker doing it than asplaining it, it's sunday morning and my brain iss not yet awake.
10:21:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Doing your homework doesn't learn *you* anything ;)
10:23:08  <PublicServer> <Spike> there.. a start :)
10:23:14  <PublicServer> <Spike> can you finish it? :)
10:23:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sure
10:23:44  <PublicServer> <Spike> now it's easy to connect
10:24:46  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> how goes chaps?
10:24:49  <PublicServer> <Combuster> fine
10:24:55  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> long time no see :)
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10:25:35  <avdg> uh… new grf screen :)
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10:26:27  <avdg> !password
10:26:27  <PublicServer> avdg: knifed
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10:27:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> :o long map
10:27:28  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> not long
10:27:29  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> just wide
10:27:34  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> ^_^
10:27:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) doesn't matter :p
10:28:22  <PublicServer> <Roysvork> space-effictiveness challenge
10:29:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> long tl is welcome here :)
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10:30:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm, still no a380? :p
10:31:22  <theholyduck> roysvork, i think NORTH = lenght
10:31:26  <theholyduck> *norht-south = lenght
10:31:31  <theholyduck> and east-west = width
10:31:33  <theholyduck> so the map is long :P
10:31:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vewwy long.
10:32:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> doesnt matter :)
10:32:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> we aren't looking where is the north in rl? don't we?
10:32:26  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I do.
10:32:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> *aren't
10:32:42  <theholyduck> avdg, well up and north is generally the same
10:32:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's over there, in a box.
10:32:49  <theholyduck> a widescreen monitor is WIDE not tlal
10:32:55  <theholyduck> wide not long
10:32:56  <theholyduck> rather
10:33:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not tlal, indeed.
10:33:06  <theholyduck> :p
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10:33:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> there is at least an fixed orientation point :p
10:33:54  <PublicServer> <Spike> 1 undisputable in the whole map? :)
10:34:01  <PublicServer> <Spike> basicly in every map :)
10:34:04  <theholyduck> don't you just hate it when your favorite youtube video gts removed?
10:34:10  <theholyduck> *gets
10:34:22  <wouterr> good morning all
10:34:22  <theholyduck> especially when theres no actualy copyright violation going on
10:34:30  <PublicServer> <sonic> good morning!
10:34:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Morning, Wooterr.
10:34:50  <snc> theholyduck, that's why I save them
10:35:03  <theholyduck> snc, well i never thought htis one was going to be removed
10:35:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi wouterr
10:35:17  <theholyduck> essentially, it was the perfect proof that the internet was working
10:35:33  <theholyduck> a bunch of iranians miming to a japanese "version" of a romanian song
10:35:41  <theholyduck> the most absurd and random thing i ever saw
10:35:43  <theholyduck> with aweosme lyrics
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10:38:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not breaking your back on the flip side SML, Combuster?  :-)
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10:41:33  <avdg1> wifi :(
10:41:57  <Mazur> Morning, Victor.
10:42:23  <avdg1> !password
10:42:23  <PublicServer> avdg1: winked
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10:43:29  <VictorOfSweden> Mazur: mornin'
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10:44:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi VictorOfSweden
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10:45:42  <Progman> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9577/ravenshorsttransport202.png - hmmm...
10:47:27  <V453000> :)
10:47:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi v
10:47:48  <V453000> hi
10:48:11  <Mazur> Hi, V.
10:48:15  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hi Vbignum
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10:51:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'm off for now
10:51:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Enjoy.
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11:06:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) a 380
11:09:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh... buzy airports :p
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11:12:02  <Barbaar> goodmorning
11:12:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi barbaar
11:12:14  <Barbaar> !password
11:12:14  <PublicServer> Barbaar: tartan
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11:17:47  <PublicServer> <sonic> hi Barbaar
11:18:00  <PublicServer> <sonic> i fixed some signals in your shifter
11:18:09  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah saw it, thanks
11:18:24  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> stupid combo as entry mistake :)
11:21:18  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> sww, those space efficient SMLs have nasty inline prio parts
11:21:28  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> eww*
11:21:53  <PublicServer> <sonic> Mazur: I added some signs to your split
11:23:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Thanks.
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11:28:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, any suggestion as to how to fix those C L problems?
11:28:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
11:28:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> CFeel free to simply implement them
11:29:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> But thing is already on it. Somic, I think.
11:29:43  <PublicServer> <sonic> but you have a signal gap there
11:29:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> mix these 2 exits
11:29:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> that will solve the case
11:30:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> it will be a bit ugly, but better then that x
11:30:29  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> like that?
11:30:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Feel free to completely rebuild it.
11:30:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh
11:30:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> wait
11:31:23  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> there is no CL problem there right?
11:31:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> I see the problem
11:31:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> change the order of the exits
11:32:15  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, yes. Sunday morning head, second brain cell not yet awake.
11:33:16  <PublicServer> <sonic> hm how are we supposed to name our feeders? SLH XY?
11:33:32  <hylje> SLH n+1
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11:35:26  <jondisti> !password
11:35:26  <PublicServer> jondisti: mayors
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11:36:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> cl 6?
11:36:31  <PublicServer> <sonic> avdg: on straights
11:36:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> TL9
11:36:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
11:36:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> or 13 half-tiles
11:37:07  <PublicServer> <sonic> see !curve lengths
11:37:36  <wouterr> !password
11:37:36  <PublicServer> wouterr: mayors
11:37:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> pls !inspect, please. /Mazur
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11:37:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think its better no
11:37:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> now
11:38:31  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> those PBS should be changed to block signals
11:38:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I agree about the PBS.
11:38:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) pro block signals
11:39:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Seen better throughput with block.
11:39:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think !shifter isn't lock free
11:39:29  <PublicServer> <sonic> it is
11:39:36  <PublicServer> <avdg> are you sure?
11:39:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
11:39:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> haven't tested it yet
11:39:52  <PublicServer> <sonic> but I think so
11:39:53  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lock Ness monster?
11:39:58  <PublicServer> <sonic> :D
11:40:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
11:40:46  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You laugh, I have to put up with those kind of remarks in my head all day, all my life!
11:40:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-)
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11:42:02  <avdg> !seen mark
11:42:09  <avdg> @seen mark
11:42:09  <Webster> avdg: mark was last seen in #openttdcoop 1 day, 1 hour, 19 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <Mark> :)
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11:45:28  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> it cost only 6 million to convert all the tracks on the map to same type
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11:46:56  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> can i build transfer trains already or should it wait for the big trains?
11:47:59  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> sorry, LS, grain, wood and coal only according to plan
11:48:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> uhh... these tunnels are ugly
11:48:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> same for bridges
11:48:44  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> missing those nice tunnel and bridge grfs :(
11:49:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> hsa :o
11:49:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> not that train set :p
11:50:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol? how do you do !sleepy road?
11:51:40  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> Barbaar: lets wait till we have enough transfers
11:51:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ok
11:53:32  <PublicServer> <sonic> avdg: that are supposed to be rail crossings
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11:53:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
11:54:02  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> make a rail crossing with planning track for weird arrow on road :P
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12:03:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Vodatupy Woods connected, no trains yet.
12:03:17  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ok cool
12:03:26  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> not sure if we should connect further than that
12:03:34  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> depends on where next transfer is
12:03:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed.
12:04:11  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> well, one transfer station ready to go
12:04:16  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> time for a little break
12:07:49  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We passed the €1,000,000,000 mark.
12:08:15  <KenjiE20> pfft
12:08:24  <Mazur> Morning.
12:08:29  <KenjiE20> wake me when the counter resets past the bytelimit
12:08:33  <KenjiE20> :P
12:08:51  <Mazur> ¿Que?
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12:25:27  <PublicServer> <sonic> thanks :)
12:25:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yw.
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12:36:21  <Vitus> !password
12:36:21  <PublicServer> Vitus: embalm
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12:36:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
12:36:41  <PublicServer> <sonic> hi vitus
12:36:41  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> hiya
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12:38:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya, Feets.
12:40:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Silleh meh.
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12:41:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Sory, miscalculated.
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12:42:55  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We're building with very high speed rail, or?
12:42:59  <PublicServer> <sonic> yup
12:43:00  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aye
12:43:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK
12:43:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> how fast?
12:47:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... do they have a lot hp power?
12:48:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> and acc power
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12:50:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> many post on the airports :p
12:51:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) post plane!
12:51:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Stupid powerplant
12:52:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> check plane 24
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12:58:28  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> sonic, thats the same as it was right?
12:58:36  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> the fail safe sml?
12:58:56  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ow wait yes, i had forgotten a bit
13:00:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now a shifter on the West side.
13:00:21  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, it's there.
13:00:25  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aye :)
13:00:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> stupid bridges in the way to place it closer
13:00:45  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was wondering whether the birdges would interfere.
13:01:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/whether/how much/
13:01:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> High time brunch time.
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13:01:58  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> you think we should build another one between 3 and 4 sonic?
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13:05:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) incomen
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13:10:21  <ralph09> !password
13:10:21  <PublicServer> ralph09: stodgy
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13:10:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi ralph_
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13:18:46  <pugi> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129165187329056762.jpg
13:19:49  <snc> lol
13:19:51  <Mazur> Yeah, that one had me in stitches, too.
13:20:56  <PublicServer> <sonic> who's building that SRNW at slh 03?
13:21:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Me
13:21:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh who? I hate that word :p
13:21:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like someone is duty
13:21:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> or whats word again? :p
13:22:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I don'y know.
13:22:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> hm, don't you need to sync pribram?
13:22:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> huh?
13:22:37  <pugi> :D
13:24:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> the problem is, that only one dummy train is loaded at a time
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13:25:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> How come?
13:25:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> ah, wait, you have 3 different stations
13:25:43  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll have separate grain and livestock trains
13:25:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, that income is going up and down like hell :p
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13:26:25  <PublicServer> <sonic> sorry, didn't see that. then all is fine :)
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13:26:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey VictorOfSweden
13:26:45  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> hello
13:27:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
13:27:02  <PublicServer> <VictorOfSweden> thunderstorm over, so back to ottd :)
13:27:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
13:28:17  <PublicServer> * sonic wants to add some trains...
13:28:22  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Me too :D
13:28:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> who's boss :p
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13:39:14  <PublicServer> <Vitus> OK, I added train groups
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13:41:56  <PublicServer> * avdg feels like rolling out trains :p
13:42:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> can't wait
13:42:05  <PublicServer> <sonic> me 2
13:42:18  <PublicServer> <sonic> maybe let's finish SLH02, atleast the split and the shifter
13:42:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I want to see whether my srnw works or not :D
13:42:27  <PublicServer> <sonic> and then add some trains
13:42:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> still,  I am not sure about the shifters
13:43:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We have three working transfer stations
13:43:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> it needs a bypasser, I think
13:43:10  <PublicServer> <sonic> whether they are failsafe?
13:43:30  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Where?
13:43:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> if trains can bypass at the 'risks'
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13:45:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> CL7 on diagonals, right?
13:45:40  <PublicServer> <sonic> yes
13:46:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We'll have to get rid of the bridges at top if we want to fit SMLs there
13:47:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> At least these
13:48:06  <PublicServer> <sonic> what about bypassing the south lake and TFing part of the north lake?
13:48:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> sounds bit detouring :p
13:48:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nah, I think that there will be enough space when we get rid of the lakes near "here
13:49:26  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh, you mean this
13:49:29  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmmm...
13:49:31  <PublicServer> <sonic> that way, part of the lakes still remain
13:49:35  <PublicServer> <Vitus> That could go
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13:51:13  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn it, every bridge has different sync :D
13:51:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
13:51:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> revert :p
13:51:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> damm no revert control :p
13:52:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Let's see... I'll fit the split/sml there and then modify the bridges
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13:59:12  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh crap
13:59:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hm?
13:59:38  <PublicServer> <Mazur> In the outhouse, please.
13:59:49  <PublicServer> <sonic> the failsafe thing won't work indeed
14:00:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> just needs bypassing
14:00:53  <PublicServer> <sonic> bypassing?
14:01:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> we create 1 tl waitingspace before the shifter
14:01:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> and before that we add a bypasser
14:02:23  <PublicServer> <sonic> or wait
14:02:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> check !curve lengths
14:02:43  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Then just scrap the lake, it's just 20 tiles :D
14:03:23  <PublicServer> <sonic> nah, should actually work
14:04:02  <PublicServer> <sonic> was concerned about !<- this part
14:04:34  <PublicServer> <sonic> but if a train on the east lane already entered that block, there would be no need of failsafe anyway
14:04:50  <PublicServer> <avdg> something like that
14:05:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> thus, something !like that
14:05:09  <PublicServer> <sonic> it's the block before the double exit that matters, so there should be no problem
14:06:13  <PublicServer> <sonic> but with of 4 you could also use a classic failsafe
14:06:29  <PublicServer> <Vitus> sec
14:06:50  <PublicServer> <sonic> like at SLH 04
14:07:54  <PublicServer> <Vitus> So yeah, it is failsafe
14:08:28  <PublicServer> <sonic> excellent. would have been a mess to fix all shifters
14:08:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> wait a sec?
14:09:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You moved the shifter or what?
14:09:13  <PublicServer> <Mazur> DId I hear Monty Burns, there?
14:09:18  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh
14:09:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> *doh*
14:09:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't believe in failsafe till its proven
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14:10:47  <PublicServer> <Vitus> wait wait
14:11:09  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You have to move it two tiles
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14:11:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You need twoway exit signal here
14:11:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And that triggers prio even for trains which won't actually use that track
14:11:55  <PublicServer> <sonic> argh, right
14:15:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not enough space for prio
14:15:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
14:15:19  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Unless
14:17:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :)
14:17:30  <PublicServer> <sonic> now, to the fun part :D
14:17:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah :D
14:17:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> cool :)
14:17:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
14:18:00  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We can move the south merge if needed
14:18:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But that's it
14:19:51  <PublicServer> <sonic> shall we add some trains?
14:19:54  <PublicServer> <sonic> any last objections?
14:20:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Object
14:20:10  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I think we can
14:20:20  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Should not those stations be built at those SLH?
14:20:35  <PublicServer> <Vitus> ?
14:20:41  <PublicServer> <sonic> Mazur: that can still be done later on
14:20:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fine.
14:21:04  <PublicServer> <sonic> splits and shifts are more critical to do if they are trains running
14:21:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I dig it.
14:21:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll add trains to the srnw so the farms don't die
14:21:48  <PublicServer> <sonic> i'll inject at !inject
14:23:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I propose to rename transfer stations to *space*TRANSFER and number
14:23:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What do you think?
14:23:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Same number as SLH.
14:23:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Plz.
14:24:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh... only 2 engines?
14:24:26  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We got two SLH 02 :D
14:24:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> how many engines do we need?
14:24:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 2
14:24:54  <PublicServer> <sonic> according to plan 2
14:24:55  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It's in plan
14:24:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
14:25:22  <PublicServer> <sonic> steep hills are no problem
14:25:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> its long :)
14:26:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> So, which one gets renumbered?
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14:26:27  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I renumbered SLHs
14:26:30  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 1-5 from top to bottom
14:26:34  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Cool.
14:26:56  <PublicServer> <sonic> orders are: feeder - drop S - feeder - drop N?
14:27:32  <PublicServer> <sonic> but then what happens with wood, where there is only a drop in the north?
14:28:10  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Orders are drop-feeder afaik
14:28:27  <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's why we have two-way roro's at transfers
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14:29:18  <PublicServer> <sonic> but isnt feeder-drop-feeder-drop more efficient?
14:29:41  <Vitus> [com]buster: Are you here?
14:29:49  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I'll try to ask
14:30:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I liked the feed-N-feed-S schedule.
14:30:29  <PublicServer> <sonic> me too. but there are still wood and coal which have only one drop
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14:30:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup
14:30:44  <PublicServer> <sonic> in that case we still need a turnaround
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14:31:01  <snc> !password
14:31:02  <PublicServer> snc: violet
14:31:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah yes, I see.
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14:31:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Turnaround, why?
14:31:52  <PublicServer> <sonic> so that wood/coal trains don't clog up the drop stations
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14:32:13  <PublicServer> <Vitus> We have two-way roros, look
14:32:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, transfer stations _are_ the turnaround.
14:32:33  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi5 Vitus.
14:32:34  <PublicServer> <sonic> ah, i see
14:33:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
14:33:09  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 5
14:33:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
14:33:14  <PublicServer> <sonic> :D
14:35:20  <DJ_Nekkid> !password
14:35:20  <PublicServer> DJ_Nekkid: violet
14:35:30  <PublicServer> <sonic> let's start with grain and ls using both drops
14:35:53  <PublicServer> <sonic> that can be easily changed later
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14:37:02  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Damn it, I totally forgot waypoints for the srnw
14:37:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Feeder trains, also Lok2000?  But a single one, right?
14:37:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think yes, as 10tl only needs 2
14:37:50  <PublicServer> <sonic> first train starting
14:38:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
14:38:08  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Mommy, mommy, I saws a drain go bai!
14:38:10  <PublicServer> <sonic> :D
14:38:30  <PublicServer> <avdg> firework :p
14:39:12  <PublicServer> <sonic> citizens celebrate by burning down the forest
14:39:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol
14:40:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Wood loading.
14:41:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> This is the fifrst time I've participated this early in the game.
14:41:11  <PublicServer> <sonic> we have 4x penalty on freight?
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14:41:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> first train is arriving!
14:41:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> prepare the party :p
14:41:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> arm the explosives!
14:41:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Take a snifter by the shifter.
14:42:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah first load :p
14:42:10  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Arms his expletives.
14:42:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Slow going at my forest.
14:43:11  <PublicServer> <sonic> acceleration of loaded dummy trains is damn slow
14:44:13  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh
14:44:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> *ahem*
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14:44:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> lol?
14:44:47  <PublicServer> <sonic> needs refitting
14:44:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> First wood delivey.
14:45:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 tl too long I guess
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14:45:47  <snc> !password
14:45:47  <PublicServer> snc: fluxed
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14:49:38  <PublicServer> <sonic> 18 tonnes of grain per month
14:49:48  <PublicServer> <sonic> that was close :)
14:50:12  <Barbaar> !password
14:50:12  <PublicServer> Barbaar: fluxed
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14:50:23  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> and back again
14:50:26  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
14:51:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> not good
14:51:59  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hm?
14:52:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
14:52:05  <PublicServer> <sonic> trains are too weak
14:52:18  <PublicServer> <sonic> or freight is too heavy respectively
14:52:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> big trains are a good thing
14:52:43  <PublicServer> <sonic> there's a 4x weight multiplier
14:53:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh.. does that means slower acc?
14:53:10  <PublicServer> <sonic> very slow
14:53:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> look at train 4
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14:54:09  <PublicServer> <sonic> i don't know if the 4x is on purpose...
14:54:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Fine, 1st srnw is up and running
14:55:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> cant we lower the acc? :p
14:55:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> weigth multiplier, I mean
14:56:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> too slow :(
14:56:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> check 19
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14:56:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> it hits now maxspeed :p
14:56:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> 300 tiles later...
14:57:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> and can't climb :(
14:58:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> damm... stopid mountains
14:58:44  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> noes, farm gone just as i made the trains
14:58:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> build :p
14:58:59  <PublicServer> <sonic> refund it
14:59:06  <PublicServer> <sonic> aaand first train at drop
14:59:16  <PublicServer> <sonic> and no factory at drop :D
14:59:21  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
14:59:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> fund :p
14:59:36  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> north drop also accepts nothing :)
15:00:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, so many rails
15:00:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> are they compatible?
15:00:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I guess
15:00:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> lets test :p
15:00:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But electric trains need catenary
15:01:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah
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15:03:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> I miss speed signalisation :p
15:04:06  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> thanks :)
15:04:12  <PublicServer> <sonic> np :)
15:04:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> compatible :)
15:04:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> check 49
15:05:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> :) planning tracks
15:06:00  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I doubt that'll work :D
15:06:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> do we have trains running on that? :p
15:06:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
15:06:53  <PublicServer> <Vitus> As I expected :)
15:06:59  <PublicServer> <sonic> flatbed or hoppers for wood?
15:07:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> hopper
15:07:22  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Better capacity
15:07:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> but they look like grain trains
15:07:48  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, that's true
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15:08:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't we have 40 km and 60?
15:09:41  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> so should the factory trains alternate between drops or always go to farthest?
15:10:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oops
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15:12:40  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not sure howw to hook up feeder stations Luka etc.
15:13:45  <PublicServer> <sonic> why dont you build another station to the west of transfer 3?
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15:16:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... do trians now wich track is faster?
15:17:08  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> who is working on transfer 1 trains?
15:17:16  <PublicServer> <sonic> me
15:17:21  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ah
15:17:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> nope
15:17:34  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> maybe we should go to normal pre-signals?
15:17:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> they don't know it
15:17:47  <PublicServer> <sonic> no difference yet
15:17:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( no priority
15:18:01  <PublicServer> <sonic> damn
15:19:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> They don't.
15:19:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> too bad :p
15:19:22  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Unless they think slow is better.
15:19:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> nope
15:19:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> they are just taking the 'short' route
15:19:47  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> thats pretty dirty sonic :P
15:19:59  <PublicServer> <sonic> :P
15:20:13  <PublicServer> <sonic> erm
15:20:18  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyone want to !hook up?
15:20:41  <planetmaker> I rather hook up with someone of the opposite sex
15:21:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, I heard the farmers daughters are pretty friendly.
15:21:24  <PublicServer> <Mazur> When I built the station.
15:21:37  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, that was to be expected
15:21:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> :(
15:22:13  <PublicServer> <sonic> hm, maybe it's the pbs in front of the stations
15:22:22  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> i think so, without them it works fine
15:22:34  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> are they actually needed since there is pbs in station?
15:22:36  <PublicServer> <sonic> because usually they choose an empty bay
15:22:43  <PublicServer> <sonic> lets find out
15:22:48  <PublicServer> <sonic> i guess they are not
15:23:15  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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15:23:18  <snc> !password
15:23:20  <avdg> ?
15:23:21  <Barbaar> err
15:23:25  <avdg> server error
15:23:25  <snc> wtf?
15:23:25  <Barbaar> server crashed?
15:23:28  <Mazur> *WHOOPS*
15:23:32  <avdg> !admin
15:23:34  <avdg> :p
15:23:53  <snc> Ammler, XeryusTC ?
15:24:08  <Ammler> what have you done!
15:24:11  <Barbaar> sonic: would we need pre-sigs at entrance or are normal double ones ok?
15:24:19  <avdg> nooooo /me cries
15:24:25  <Mazur> All I dod was rm -rf ..
15:24:33  <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/crash.log
15:24:38  <Mazur> Eh, .*
15:24:46  <avdg> hmmm
15:24:50  <avdg> assertion :p
15:25:07  <Barbaar> hmm, grf fail?
15:25:09  <avdg> something wrong with pbs
15:25:15  <snc> maybe that was us Barbaar
15:25:22  <snc>  Message: Assertion failed at line 80 of /home/openttd/svn-public/src/pbs.cpp: (GetTileTrackStatus(tile, TRANSPORT_RAIL, 0) & TrackToTrackBits(t)) != 0
15:25:42  <Barbaar> we removed a pbs sig at precisely the same time? :P
15:25:48  <avdg> :) nice report
15:25:52  <planetmaker> :-O
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15:26:01  <avdg> hey pm
15:26:06  <avdg> hey ODM
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15:26:36  <avdg> barbaar: is that meaned?
15:26:45  <Ammler> try to reproduce it please
15:26:54  <avdg> !password
15:26:54  <PublicServer> avdg: unreal
15:26:57  <avdg> :)
15:26:59  <avdg> nice psw
15:27:00  <Barbaar> could be just removing a load of pbs after another, not sure
15:27:22  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
15:27:23  <avdg> can be hard to reproduce if you test with place/remove
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15:27:41  <PublicServer> Server has exited
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15:27:53  <avdg> lol?
15:27:59  <Mazur> PS don;t like me no more.....
15:28:00  <Barbaar> seems to crash as soon as a train a transfer 1 gets to the one-way pbs
15:28:02  <Mazur> :-(
15:28:11  <Barbaar> i'll try to stop the train when it starts again
15:28:26  <snc> !password
15:28:30  <Ammler> ok, you know now, how to reproduce?
15:28:33  <avdg> hehe, thats a reason why openttdcoop exists
15:28:53  <Mazur> Ok, let Barbar get into possition before the next person joined.
15:28:56  <Mazur> joins
15:29:00  <Barbaar> Ammler: i have a strong suspicion
15:29:04  <V453000> ooh crash?
15:29:16  <Mazur> Yes, V, reproducible, it seems.
15:29:24  <Mazur> PBS, your favourite.
15:29:26  <Ammler> Barbaar: crashed it at exact same time?
15:29:28  <V453000> oh yes
15:29:43  <Barbaar> Ammler: not sure, didnt get a good look at the first time it crashed
15:29:43  <Ammler> I start again
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15:29:52  <Barbaar> ok, i'll try to stop the suspicious train
15:30:01  <Barbaar> !password
15:30:01  <PublicServer> Barbaar: busily
15:30:07  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:30:20  <planetmaker> which savegame?
15:30:25  <snc> Barbaar, ready?
15:30:25  <planetmaker> number
15:30:29  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> aye
15:30:29  <Ammler> autosave144.sav
15:30:37  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:30:39  <planetmaker> won't work
15:30:46  <Ammler> ?
15:30:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> ok, stopped the suspect
15:30:51  <snc> bam
15:30:52  <PublicServer> Server has exited
15:30:53  <planetmaker> it will crash again :-)
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15:30:59  <Barbaar> guess that was not the problem :(
15:31:11  <planetmaker> 142 works according to SmatZ
15:31:19  <Ammler> pm, you know something we don't?
15:31:33  <snc> planetmaker, are there pbs around Transfer 1 in 142?
15:31:42  <planetmaker> Ammler: yes, I read #openttd
15:31:54  <Ammler> ok :-)
15:31:57  <Ammler> mäh
15:32:13  <Ammler> so already solved, then we can simply start 142
15:32:26  <Ammler> no need for bugreport...
15:32:29  <avdg> hmm… no changes in the pbs code since our version… means the bug could be still in
15:32:29  <Barbaar> snc: could be the problem yes, the reserved tracks looked a bit weird after we removed the pbs
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15:34:51  <snc> !password
15:34:51  <PublicServer> snc: geyser
15:34:59  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:35:06  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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15:35:13  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> yeah, no crashed train here yet
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15:35:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> where is that bug? :p
15:35:48  <snc> shall I try removing the pbs?
15:35:50  <tycoondemon> !server
15:35:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> where?
15:36:04  <PublicServer> <sonic> Transfer 1
15:36:04  <Ammler> @quickstart
15:36:05  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
15:36:08  <Ammler> tycoondemon: ^
15:36:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> can you mar it sonic?
15:36:24  <tycoondemon> i dont see the publicserver game
15:36:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> *mark
15:36:41  <Ammler> tycoondemon: you read "Quickstart"?
15:36:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> train crash was at depot to the north
15:37:01  <PublicServer> <sonic> and we removed the pbs enclosing the transfer station
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15:37:14  <tycoondemon> !password
15:37:15  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: geyser
15:37:20  <tycoondemon> geyser
15:37:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> since when does publicserver say the psw ingame?
15:38:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> oh :)
15:38:31  <SmatZ> :-p
15:38:32  <avdg> tycoondemon: type that password when joining the game :p
15:38:47  <snc> V453000, are the weight penalties on purpose?
15:38:53  <tycoondemon> yes I know
15:38:57  <tycoondemon> it has been a long night
15:38:58  <tycoondemon> :S
15:39:21  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> so uhm, want me to try removing those pbs again?
15:39:22  <PublicServer> *** Sepp joined the game
15:39:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... is someone trying to reproduce that bug again?
15:39:30  <PublicServer> <sonic> Barbaar: already did. nothing happened
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15:39:48  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> might be a combination with that crashed train maybe
15:39:51  <PublicServer> <sonic> and we need  them for the station to work
15:39:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> barbaar: try again and show your steps
15:40:27  <V453000> snc: I didnt make the map
15:40:34  <V453000> ask planetmaker
15:40:45  <PublicServer> *** Player has joined company #1
15:40:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> player: pls change your nick
15:41:00  <planetmaker> no combination may crash the game
15:41:05  <Vitus> !password
15:41:05  <PublicServer> Vitus: geyser
15:41:11  <PublicServer> *** Sepp has left the game (leaving)
15:41:12  <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to tycoondemon
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15:41:22  <Mazur> pm: Is hte 4x weight penalty on purpose?
15:41:23  <planetmaker> but this combination has - to my knowledge - not been tested in massive multiplayer as now
15:41:25  <PublicServer> <avdg> incoming
15:41:26  <PublicServer> *** Vitus has joined company #1
15:41:33  <planetmaker> Mazur: it's not :S
15:41:41  <Mazur> So we may change it?
15:41:53  <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1
15:42:13  <Mazur> Some folk are anxious about it as trains lose a few km/h going uphill.
15:42:22  <Mazur> And accel is somewhat slow.
15:42:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> lower the weight multiplier :p
15:43:18  <Mazur> I haave not the power.
15:43:23  <PublicServer> <Barbaar> dinner time, cya later
15:43:26  <PublicServer> *** Barbaar has left the game (leaving)
15:43:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> then ask the admins :p
15:43:33  <Mazur> Ejoy, barbaar.
15:43:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> V is here, right?
15:43:55  <PublicServer> * avdg waits
15:43:57  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
15:44:00  <Mazur> He's _somewhere_, I suppose.
15:44:17  <Mazur> So's pm, and Ammler, and who knows who else.
15:44:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah :)
15:44:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> they are faster now
15:44:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> multiplier's still there
15:44:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> ow, so they are empty
15:44:47  <planetmaker> I think it doesn't work in MP
15:45:43  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Multiplier still 4, advg.
15:45:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> i know
15:46:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> much better
15:46:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> presignals aren't 100% save
15:47:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You're kidding?
15:47:26  <PublicServer> <sonic> maybe combo instead of exits?
15:47:27  <PublicServer> * avdg knowas a fix
15:47:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Where?
15:48:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
15:48:22  <PublicServer> <sonic> combo's would do the trick too, wouldnt they?
15:48:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> be sure the 2 sides are in 1 block and its failsafe
15:48:34  <PublicServer> <sonic> -'
15:48:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> problem is when 2 trains are entering the stations from each side
15:48:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> and only 1 platform is free
15:49:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> get it?
15:49:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Right, but this can't happen with pbs
15:49:39  <PublicServer> <sonic> yes. my proposition is that combos have the same effect
15:49:42  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 000041E4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000041E4.png
15:49:51  <PublicServer> <sonic> but with pbs, trains are too stupid to choose an empty bay
15:49:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I see
15:49:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> right vitus, because the reservation
15:50:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> the behavior shouldn't change
15:50:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( no combo's pls
15:50:36  <PublicServer> <sonic> argh, damn
15:50:42  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Why?
15:50:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> I think that works like a memory
15:51:05  <planetmaker> @op Mazur
15:51:05  *** Webster sets mode: +o Mazur
15:51:14  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, I'll try that with test station
15:51:17  <planetmaker> try to change the setting, Mazur I'm too lazy too look it up
15:51:18  <Mazur> @deop Mazur
15:51:28  <Mazur> Ah, ok.\
15:51:33  <planetmaker> :-P
15:51:53  <planetmaker> so you want to try or not?
15:52:13  <Mazur> Am looking already.
15:52:17  <planetmaker> @op Mazur
15:52:22  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Here it is
15:52:28  <Mazur> What shall I change it to?
15:52:30  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Chech !here
15:52:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Check
15:52:36  <planetmaker> to 1 I'd say
15:53:48  <snc> the corresponding option is freight_trains
15:53:48  <planetmaker>  !rcon set is then your friend
15:53:48  <PublicServer> planetmaker: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
15:53:48  <PublicServer> planetmaker: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
15:53:50  <snc> i guess
15:54:36  <Mazur> !rcon set freight_trains
15:54:36  <PublicServer> Mazur: Current value for 'freight_trains' is: '4' (min: 1, max: 255)
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15:54:46  <Mazur> !rcon set freight_trains 1
15:54:46  <PublicServer> Mazur: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
15:54:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But this works
15:54:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look
15:54:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> All combos
15:55:12  <planetmaker> he
15:55:15  <Mazur> Too bad.
15:55:32  <planetmaker> yeah. Well.
15:56:03  <Mazur> !rcon set godlike_powers_Mazur 1
15:56:03  <PublicServer> Mazur: 'godlike_powers_Mazur' is an unknown setting.
15:56:11  <Mazur> Is it?
15:56:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> noo
15:56:28  *** hylje sets mode: -o hylje
15:56:31  *** Mazur sets mode: -o Mazur
15:58:04  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Don't th earlier entrance splist need to be pre as well?
15:58:55  <PublicServer> <sonic> we don't have the space for that solution
15:59:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> i know
15:59:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> so we _have_ to use pbs :(
15:59:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> yes :( and the problem with that can be seen at transfer 3
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16:00:04  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hey folks
16:00:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey
16:00:11  <PublicServer> <sonic> hey pm
16:00:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... what about 1 combo and 1 end
16:00:15  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> whose plan won?
16:00:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hiya, Planetbreaker.
16:00:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> combusters
16:00:25  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> aye :-)
16:00:52  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not many trains so far ;-)
16:01:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> We're looking into the entrance signalling of transfer 1
16:01:07  <PublicServer> <sonic> still figuring out some problems with the transfer stations
16:01:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The provlem you can see at transfer 3.
16:01:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh wont work :p
16:01:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> needs penalty on 1 track
16:02:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> white track should be filled first
16:02:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> noo
16:02:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> endsignal should be filled first
16:02:46  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> where is it where you ponder what to do?
16:02:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> wait
16:03:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> SLH01 etc pp?
16:03:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> dam
16:03:23  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ah yes
16:03:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> like that
16:03:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> I hope it has enough penalty
16:04:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> try !V2
16:04:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> it has an overflow track
16:04:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> what's the issue?
16:04:44  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00003F17: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003F17.png
16:04:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Things work better if the SRNW trains get a tranfer order at the transfer station.
16:04:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> perhaps.
16:05:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like people hates pbs due crash
16:05:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> so we are constructing a non-pbs setup
16:05:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> they shouldn't ;-)
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16:05:18  <wouterr> !password
16:05:18  <PublicServer> wouterr: vising
16:05:25  <V453000> nah pbs susks all in all :p
16:05:28  <PublicServer> *** Wouterr joined the game
16:05:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> pls try v2 :(
16:05:58  <PublicServer> <avdg> my first one doesn't work
16:06:10  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> well, what is build at Nový Žerenník Woods with the temp solution looks ok
16:06:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> just needs more space
16:06:19  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> but that's not a problem
16:06:37  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> may I?
16:06:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> don't know about the penalty
16:06:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> ???
16:06:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> wt
16:07:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> aah
16:07:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> it needs something between
16:07:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> a green end :(
16:07:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> not space friendly
16:07:38  <PublicServer> <sonic> hmm :-/
16:07:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> not space friendly. Not at all
16:08:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> works as a prio
16:09:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> 1 red signal breaks the chain
16:09:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> hm?
16:10:41  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> so... how's such solution?
16:10:42  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
16:10:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> wich one pm?
16:11:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> the one I built directly at transfer1
16:11:18  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, my first solution is the best one
16:11:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> the less complicated one
16:11:41  <PublicServer> <sonic> :(
16:11:53  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> which was that, avdg?
16:11:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm
16:12:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> uh that green signal adds an issue :(
16:12:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> forgotten
16:12:31  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I think the whole station is issue :D
16:12:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> just keep use solution 1 :p
16:12:45  <PublicServer> <Wouterr> problems with the 2 way roro?
16:12:46  <PublicServer> <avdg> connect both blocks
16:12:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, we want to avoid pbs
16:13:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And it's nigh impossible to build with presignals
16:13:13  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> shouldn't we also have wood trains here?
16:13:18  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and coal?
16:13:24  <PublicServer> <avdg> vitus: just hard and limiting
16:13:38  <PublicServer> <avdg> pbs is indeed the best construction
16:13:40  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, with solution 1 :P
16:13:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> man that looks ugly
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16:13:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> better then complicated :p
16:14:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> s/then/than/
16:14:58  <PublicServer> <sonic> damn
16:15:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> planning tracks carries signal, right?
16:15:42  <PublicServer> <Vitus> yup
16:15:42  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> yes
16:15:43  <PublicServer> <sonic> yes
16:16:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> ty for massive responce :p
16:16:28  <PublicServer> <sonic> np ;)
16:16:30  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> just to be sure ;-)
16:17:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> these planning tracks looks nice, because it looks like cables under the ground
16:17:14  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> indeed
16:17:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not to me. Cables underground lok just like ground, ro me, normally.
16:17:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> :-P
16:18:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
16:18:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> under the ground, in a tunnel :p
16:18:25  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> lol
16:18:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> another problem
16:18:48  <PublicServer> <sonic> trains don't turn around
16:18:51  <PublicServer> <sonic> see train 51
16:18:53  <PublicServer> <sonic> should go north
16:19:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
16:19:15  <V453000> the planning tracks are nice to use for prios or logic tracks btw :)
16:19:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> looks like I know a fix
16:19:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You better do it quickly :D
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16:20:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> I hope they like the short ending tracks
16:20:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
16:20:32  <PublicServer> <sonic> doesnt seems to work
16:20:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> wich side should it go?
16:20:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> North.
16:21:01  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm does a pathfinder trap with reverting exists?
16:21:26  <PublicServer> <avdg> it does right?
16:21:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( don't tell me, we lacks space
16:21:46  <PublicServer> <sonic> we lack space :P
16:22:10  <PublicServer> <sonic> but isn't that a setting?
16:22:10  <PublicServer> <avdg> grrrr... fix that bug :p
16:22:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> sonic yes
16:22:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> and its standard on
16:22:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> its not touched
16:22:32  <PublicServer> <sonic> difficulty level: train reversing
16:22:48  <PublicServer> <avdg> its actually never touched here
16:22:58  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> has anyone newgrf debuging enabled?
16:23:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> nope, not me :(
16:23:28  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> could you and check something for me?
16:23:38  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> set newgrf_developer_tools 1
16:23:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> k
16:23:48  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> and then open the debug view for train 49
16:23:58  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes?
16:24:09  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What exactly do you want to know now?
16:24:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> does the line with the motion counter glitch for you?
16:24:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> how to open debug view?
16:24:43  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
16:24:46  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Variable 46, right?
16:24:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> by watching?
16:24:54  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> there's a 3rd icon in the window bar, avdg
16:24:59  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> of the train
16:25:11  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> which can be interpreted as bug
16:25:16  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes, it does
16:25:29  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> ok, thx, that's all I wanted to know :-)
16:26:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at transfer 3
16:26:05  <PublicServer> <planetm4ker> gives an impression how much more than graphics such a train (or a plane) is, though ;-)
16:26:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> pfff... no pbs.. no party
16:26:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> This prevents dumb PBS
16:26:40  <PublicServer> <Vitus> (the bottom part)
16:26:53  <PublicServer> <sonic> ah
16:27:07  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm...
16:27:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> let me try something
16:27:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> nah
16:27:53  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hm?
16:28:10  <dlr365> !password
16:28:10  <PublicServer> dlr365: cavern
16:28:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> just a trap
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16:28:47  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just check the transfer 3, I'm pretty sure this works OK
16:28:49  <ralph09> !password
16:28:49  <PublicServer> ralph09: cavern
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16:29:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> if we add some changes with the connection, we could add a pf trap
16:29:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno
16:29:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> an idea to try out :p
16:30:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> its dump :p
16:30:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> idk
16:30:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> my concern is that the trains are getting stuck
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16:31:31  <PublicServer> <avdg> fill... trains, fill!
16:31:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Why not just use PBS? If you do it like in transfer 3, the trains should choose good platform
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16:32:04  <PublicServer> <avdg> donno, its just a stopid idea :p
16:32:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> a pbs clone without pbs :p
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16:32:17  <planetmaker> :-P
16:32:25  <planetmaker> old school, eh, avdg ? :-)
16:32:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I prefer presignals too.. but sometimes
16:32:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> 'k, then.
16:32:40  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, kind of
16:32:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> seems like im leading now :o
16:33:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> heh
16:33:57  <PublicServer> <sonic> :(
16:34:15  <PublicServer> <avdg> it doesn't get the change to be trapped
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16:35:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> just add loops :D
16:35:16  <PublicServer> <sonic> ^^
16:36:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> works fine
16:36:22  <PublicServer> <sonic> :D
16:36:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> think simple :D
16:37:43  <V453000> the nutracks are very very very good for servers as our stable btw :) if you start a company at any time, your trains will still be slow from the start because you cant afford the infrastructure :)
16:37:46  <V453000> cool thing
16:38:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
16:38:26  <PublicServer> <sonic> I'm gonna take a break
16:38:28  <PublicServer> <avdg> I just miss the depot and a bit slower track: 60 and 40
16:38:29  <PublicServer> <sonic> cu later
16:38:36  <hylje> so why start a company midway into the game?
16:38:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> and dead tracks :p
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16:38:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Should we start  train 13 up again?
16:38:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> 10/20 (may vary)
16:39:13  <phatmatt> !download win32
16:39:13  <PublicServer> phatmatt: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19874/openttd-trunk-r19874-windows-win32.zip
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16:39:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Anyone, anyone?
16:39:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> that pbs problem is painfull :D
16:39:44  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I just tested transfer 3 with full load, works fine
16:39:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Feel free to use PBS this way
16:41:26  <phatmatt> !password
16:41:26  <PublicServer> phatmatt: darken
16:41:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Train 13?  Ok, I'll just start it up again, then?
16:42:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> lucky train :)
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16:44:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey... I got another reason why to use that loop :p
16:44:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> acc room
16:44:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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16:47:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Why ais at Jesetník North the train stopped from unloading if the other platform is busy?  What have they to do with one another?
16:48:00  <PublicServer> <Mazur> See !this
16:48:21  <PublicServer> * avdg hates !this without explaination :D
16:48:28  <PublicServer> <Vitus> huh?
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16:48:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I can;t even describe it, I don;t understand what it is meant to do.
16:48:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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16:49:05  <PublicServer> <avdg> just ask your question after the !
16:49:12  <PublicServer> <avdg> thats my new style
16:49:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> bit the twitter style #blahBlahBlah
16:49:34  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Look at their orders
16:49:43  <PublicServer> <Vitus> They don't have any of these stations in orders
16:49:44  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
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16:49:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, it's one of those make sure gthere's a full load thingies.
16:49:53  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yes
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16:51:47  <PublicServer> <avdg> everybody forgets the propose of quickfillers :)
16:51:53  <Barbaar> !password
16:51:53  <PublicServer> Barbaar: helium
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17:07:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hovada LS & Grain connected, no trains.
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17:27:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> hi Intexon
17:27:45  <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello
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17:42:55  <PublicServer> <avdg> incomen from trains are still low
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17:49:59  <PublicServer> <avdg> hey sonic
17:50:03  <PublicServer> <sonic> hey
17:50:20  <PublicServer> <avdg> check 82
17:50:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> coal seems very heavy
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17:50:53  <PublicServer> <avdg> ?
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17:51:42  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh yes
17:52:08  <PublicServer> <sonic> can't we change the setting in the savegame, then load it?
17:52:27  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, but it seems the admins aren't reacting :p
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17:53:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> the heaviest part must still come
17:53:32  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh yeah, hilly shifter
17:53:39  <PublicServer> <avdg> :p
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17:54:08  <PublicServer> <avdg> 19 is behind, I wonder wich one is faster
17:54:31  <PublicServer> <sonic> gogogo
17:55:03  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D
17:55:06  <PublicServer> <avdg> kill kill kill
17:55:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> it looks like a rollercoaster
17:56:23  <PublicServer> <avdg> ohno, grain must detour :p
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17:56:34  <PublicServer> <sonic> uh, serious setback
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17:57:02  <PublicServer> <avdg> giant climb!
17:57:06  <PublicServer> <sonic> shift it baby
17:57:32  <PublicServer> <avdg> uuuuuh...
17:57:41  <PublicServer> <avdg> knok knok, who is there?
17:57:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> back
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17:58:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's new? :)
17:58:14  <PublicServer> <avdg> race 82 vs 19
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17:58:31  <PublicServer> <sonic> looks like coals gonna win
17:58:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> but 19 loses due detour
17:58:52  <PublicServer> <avdg> fair race :p
17:59:33  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmmm... same weight :p
18:00:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> only luck counts :D
18:01:17  <PublicServer> <avdg> end race :p
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18:10:26  <avdg2> !password
18:10:26  <PublicServer> avdg2: aprons
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18:10:58  <PublicServer> <Combuster> 'evning folks
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18:11:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> <- wb
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18:12:42  <PublicServer> <Combuster> hmm
18:12:46  <jondisti> !password
18:12:46  <PublicServer> jondisti: aprons
18:12:52  <PublicServer> <Combuster> looks like I got very little space to build my transfer...
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18:12:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> ? did you fixed the heavy trains issue?
18:12:59  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Where?
18:13:04  <PublicServer> <Spike> bypassers land?
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18:13:28  <PublicServer> <Combuster> bypasser's land indeed
18:13:29  <PublicServer> * avdg feels like renaming :p
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18:13:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> :)
18:13:57  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The south join can be moved without problem
18:14:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> If you feel like you need to move the northern split, tell me and I'll do it
18:14:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> combuster: what do you think about lowering the weight multiplier?
18:14:36  <PublicServer> <Combuster> '04E is the biggest problem
18:14:52  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Shall I move it, then?
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18:15:54  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... why are trains on full speed with weight multiplier on 4?
18:16:35  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah 52 is not on full speed
18:16:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> nvm
18:16:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> are we going to use conditional orders for trains picking up from transfers?
18:17:09  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> (SRO)
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18:18:54  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> since it's not going to work with all trains having full load order
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18:24:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Is it OK now?
18:25:06  <PublicServer> <Combuster> Should be enough room
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18:31:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> is that track the nutrack grf?
18:31:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup
18:31:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> gonna try out :p
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18:33:27  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I still think that the presignaling at transfer 1 is overcomplicated
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18:37:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> btw Combuster, did you take a look at my srnw? If so, what do you think? It's my first actually built srnw :D
18:37:57  <PublicServer> <Spike> it's nice for a start Vitus :)
18:38:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Cheers :)
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18:49:56  <ralph09> !password
18:49:56  <PublicServer> ralph09: fortes
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18:58:45  <PublicServer> tycoondemon: youths
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19:01:52  <KenjiE20> @away
19:01:52  <Webster> No away nicks/messages please (http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html)
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19:04:00  <Mazur> Sorry, accident, was trying to get a C with an inverse ^ on top.
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19:06:14  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lhotka Mines conndected.
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19:21:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Who is doing the track speed limit test?
19:22:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> avdg
19:22:43  <avdg> ?
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19:24:52  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's really cramping my station at Piibram Mines.
19:25:08  <avdg> remove
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19:25:30  <avdg> I don't care about removing experiments, so long its not for no reason :p
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19:36:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm... maybe I have on solution
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19:37:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Something like this?
19:39:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Way better.
19:39:17  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You just have to move the station a bit
19:40:35  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :)
19:42:46  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur, you joined Lhotka v Čechách?
19:43:20  <PublicServer> <Vitus> The coal mine, I mean
19:45:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Are you there?
19:45:48  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I am.
19:46:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Don't forget to group the trains :)
19:46:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Watching the first train on that mine.  To check track.
19:47:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, I groped the trains.
19:48:12  <PublicServer> <sonic> eew
19:48:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> naughty you!
19:48:37  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Aren't I, though.
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19:54:12  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I demand more farms for my srnw :(
19:55:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's a tad far away, but you could give it a go.
19:56:24  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hmmm, we can manually build primary industries
19:56:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Would you mind?
19:57:01  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Pity I took those two farms on the other side and experimented with their orders.
19:57:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I?  What do I know about Coop etiqutte.
19:57:42  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or rules.
19:58:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> You could write it im crayon on a matchbox.
19:59:55  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Kunrburk has no farm yet, and so much land lying fallow.
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20:05:57  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Memo to self: Do not add signs when you fully transparented them.
20:06:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
20:06:19  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You know you can ctrl+click them to get rid of it?
20:06:34  <PublicServer> <Spike> Note to Mazur: Let signs only be semi transparent max ;)
20:06:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I have full transparent only trees
20:06:56  <PublicServer> <Spike> same here
20:07:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> oh and for town buildings :)
20:07:35  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, but sometimes I need to see behind the text, so I (temporarily) fully transp. them.
20:08:10  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I don't really build much in towns, so it'd be pretty pointless for me :)
20:08:41  <PublicServer> <Mazur> In SP I do.
20:09:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I play SP only to theorycraft about the game :D
20:09:10  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Things like twoway eol
20:09:16  <PublicServer> <Vitus> train logic
20:09:25  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And of course train calculators :D
20:09:36  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I to learn and practise.  Or simply enjoy myself.
20:09:39  <PublicServer> <Spike> train counters are fun! :)
20:11:07  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yeah, but I build things like binary calculator, which can add 2 5bit numbers :D
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20:31:20  <ralph09> !password
20:31:20  <PublicServer> ralph09: cupful
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20:40:16  <PublicServer> <sonic> Vitus: did you build the RV transfer at Sedlice?
20:40:17  <Ammler> you are using the same track type for the whole map?
20:40:27  <PublicServer> <sonic> ammler: yes
20:40:36  <Ammler> stupid nutracks usage :-P
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20:41:09  <PeterT> lol Ammler
20:45:19  <PublicServer> <Spike> eh...
20:45:26  <PublicServer> <Spike> factory/sawmill drop
20:45:30  <PublicServer> <Spike> someone removed an exit?
20:45:43  <PublicServer> <sonic> lol
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21:04:38  <ed> !password
21:04:38  <PublicServer> ed: wipers
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21:06:36  <Cameron> ok
21:06:55  <Cameron> !revision
21:06:55  <PublicServer> Cameron: Game version is r19874
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21:08:03  <Cameron> !password
21:08:03  <PublicServer> Cameron: nectar
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21:10:35  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yay, we won in hockey
21:10:49  <PublicServer> <jond1sti> looks like you did
21:10:51  <Cameron> where are you from?
21:10:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ike-hockey?
21:10:57  <V453000> PAWNAGEEEE
21:11:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup, Czech Republic
21:11:16  <V453000> yeeah
21:11:26  <V453000> beer without a doubt now
21:11:50  * Mazur toasts to the Czechs.
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21:12:15  <Mazur> Now if it was fieldhockey....
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21:13:09  <Ammler> grat SmatZ (and V453000) :-)
21:13:22  <Vitus> What about Intexon and me? :(
21:13:43  <Ammler> oh, that many cz people here?
21:13:50  <Cameron> 1
21:13:56  <Cameron> 2
21:13:59  <SmatZ> :-)
21:14:56  <V453000> wait Intexon is frim CZ?
21:14:59  <V453000> I didnt even kno :D
21:15:05  <V453000> from
21:15:14  <Vitus> He has it in his profile on wiki afaik
21:15:30  <V453000> o_O
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21:17:13  <Ammler> well, "technically" we won the tournament then
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21:17:58  <avdg> uh…? did someone enabled xdebug on a live server?
21:18:03  <avdg> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/public-server/
21:18:30  * avdg was just wondering wich grf has the high-speed trains :p
21:18:38  <Ammler> !url
21:18:38  <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/
21:18:59  <Ammler> avdg: how did you get that url?
21:18:59  <avdg> ammler: was via google :p
21:19:30  <Ammler> google is a gmae
21:19:54  <avdg> ?
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21:23:06  <avdg> !password
21:23:06  <PublicServer> avdg: zodiac
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21:23:52  <Ammler> avdg: packman
21:23:56  <Ammler> -k
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21:24:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> ? google packman :)
21:24:17  <Vitus> What, Pacman on Google?
21:24:19  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, had enough fun with that
21:24:22  <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah
21:24:29  <PublicServer> <avdg> you can play with 2 :)
21:24:30  <ed> but did you play 2 player?
21:24:34  <PublicServer> <avdg> click on "insert coin"
21:24:45  <PublicServer> <avdg> go fast
21:24:51  <PublicServer> <avdg> its the final houres
21:25:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I always say to myself: "I just have to find something, so I won't be playing pac-man yet again".... and I always do :D
21:25:16  <PublicServer> <avdg> :D
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21:25:33  <Ammler> pacman is gone
21:25:37  <PublicServer> <avdg> Vitus: here is your chance :p
21:26:00  <PublicServer> <avdg> :( too late :p
21:26:10  <avdg> I hope it will come soon on http://www.google.com/logos/
21:26:10  <Webster> Title: Google Doodles: 2010 April - June (at www.google.com)
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21:27:53  <Vitus> Yeah, me too :D
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21:28:18  <avdg> it takes always some time before it comes there
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21:32:11  <PublicServer> <avdg> in wich grf are the ice and tgv cming from?
21:32:42  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> 2cc?
21:32:49  <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... strange
21:32:56  <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't see them in my local game
21:33:09  <PublicServer> <avdg> ah, I think I know why :p
21:33:13  <PublicServer> <avdg> ty
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21:35:03  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Divný Kunburk (farm) connected.
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21:36:05  <avdg> yep, fixed (erail :p)
21:36:54  <Ammler> [23:34] <PublicServer> <Mazur> Divný Kunburk (farm) connected. <-- nice annoucement
21:37:13  <PublicServer> <Vitus> That's really strange... I mean divný :P
21:37:25  <Ammler> I can remember we did that always in in the very first time
21:38:13  <V453000>  Ammler: you understand Czech? o_O
21:38:36  <Ammler> why should I?
21:38:49  <Ammler> well, I would like to
21:39:02  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur also did epic mistype
21:39:04  <SmatZ> MISTŘIIIII
21:39:05  <Mazur> No, it was not a Nice announcement, it was a Divný Kunburk announcement.
21:39:50  <Ammler> I meant "Industry XY connected"
21:39:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I only tried to copy what I read, Vitus.
21:40:01  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur, you probably don't know what "hovada" means in Czech, right? Hodava != Hovada :P
21:40:22  <SmatZ> :-D
21:40:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah.  I do not know, indeed.
21:40:27  <SmatZ> lol @ hovada
21:40:34  <V453000> oh yes :D
21:41:49  <Mazur> Don;t be so beastly to me.
21:41:56  <Ammler> hmm, what's worse, a lot Dutchies or Czechies in this channel?
21:42:03  * Mazur goes and sulks in the corner.
21:42:06  * Vitus whistles
21:42:16  <V453000> Ammler: beer!
21:42:34  <Ammler> never had cz beer
21:42:39  <SmatZ> beer beer beer
21:42:51  <ODM> beer?
21:42:57  <Ammler> hmm, maybe I had, but can't remember, so it wasn't that good :-P
21:43:02  <Vitus> Oh, how could we forgot SmatZ's beer highlighting :)
21:43:02  * Mazur really has to go and drink beer in Plzen someday.
21:43:30  <SmatZ> :)
21:44:14  <V453000> Ammler: means you havent
21:44:23  <Ammler> :-)
21:45:05  <PublicServer> <Mazur> transfer 5 needs trains.
21:45:13  <Ammler> well, I would guess, it is like german beer
21:45:22  <Ammler> good but not special :-P
21:45:29  <Vitus> No, no, it's like Czech beer
21:45:35  <SmatZ> :D
21:46:31  <V453000> german
21:46:32  <V453000> duh
21:46:33  <V453000> !
21:47:31  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Oh. My. God.
21:47:44  <PublicServer> <Mazur> What did I do?
21:48:02  <V453000> russians commited suicide?
21:48:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Did you even notice, that there's train turning ONLY  at the end of railway?
21:48:09  <V453000> !password
21:48:09  <PublicServer> V453000: blinks
21:48:25  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And not eol + stations?
21:48:25  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I noticed oddities.
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21:48:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi there
21:48:40  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But that's like....
21:48:43  <PublicServer> <Vitus> VERY HUGE PROBLEM
21:48:51  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hi, there as well.
21:48:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> It is, indeed.
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21:50:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> only 2 engines for TL7?
21:50:52  <PublicServer> <V453000> :o
21:51:01  <PublicServer> <V453000> well I guess it is enoug
21:51:04  <PublicServer> <sonic> yeah, and a weight multiplier of 4
21:51:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup, it was in plan
21:51:11  <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm
21:51:18  <PublicServer> <V453000> baad
21:51:23  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But we didn't expect that multiplier was active
21:51:24  <PublicServer> <sonic> V453000: could you upload a manipulated savegame?
21:51:31  <PublicServer> <V453000> the full hopers accelerate badly
21:51:32  <PublicServer> <Vitus> sec
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21:51:56  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Just type list_settings into console to see if it is changeable
21:52:03  <PublicServer> <sonic> no its not in network games
21:52:14  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Not even with rcon?
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21:52:27  <PublicServer> <sonic> no, we tried this morning
21:52:31  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I see
21:52:32  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Indeed.
21:53:42  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But please, could we change difficulty.line_reverse_mode to 0 (default behaviour)?
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21:54:08  <PublicServer> <Vitus> (if possible, of course)
21:54:35  <Mazur> !rcon  set difficulty.line_reverse_mode
21:54:35  <PublicServer> Mazur: you are not allowed to use !rcon
21:54:49  <PublicServer> <V453000> duh
21:54:55  <PublicServer> <V453000> fucked up config I see :)
21:55:02  <PublicServer> <sonic> oh yes
21:55:10  <Vitus> V., you don't have rcon access, right?
21:55:12  <Vitus> Or do you?
21:55:16  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And not in a nice way.
21:55:17  <V453000> !rcon set line_reverse_mode
21:55:17  <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'line_reverse_mode' is: '1' (min: 0, max: 1)
21:55:20  <PublicServer> <sonic> every op has
21:55:27  <V453000> !rcon set line_reverse_mode 0
21:55:36  <PublicServer> <V453000> ok
21:55:38  <snc> thank you
21:55:39  <PublicServer> <V453000> this worked
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21:55:40  <Vitus> Yeah, right. I forgot
21:55:42  <Vitus> Thanks
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21:55:45  <PublicServer> <V453000> yw
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21:56:25  <perk11> !password
21:56:25  <PublicServer> perk11: grocer
21:56:28  <PublicServer> <sonic> perfect, no we don't need the turnaround anymore
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21:56:44  <PublicServer> <sonic> V453000: can you also upload and load savegames?
21:56:45  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Hey perk
21:56:49  <PublicServer> <perk11> hi
21:57:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> damn why me :D
21:57:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> :D
21:57:10  <PublicServer> <V453000> loading of savegames isnt my speciality
21:57:38  <PublicServer> <V453000> (if you want it loaded in a week, ask somebody else) :D
21:58:02  <PublicServer> <V453000> I get quickly lost
21:58:05  <PublicServer> <V453000> in that stuff
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21:59:17  <V453000> Ammler? would you load a savegame for me if I prepare it in ~1 minute,
21:59:18  <V453000> ?
21:59:20  <V453000> :)
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21:59:44  <Cameron> well
21:59:53  <V453000> is there anything else you need changed?
21:59:59  <V453000> ingamers?
21:59:59  <Cameron> computer crashed
22:00:05  <PublicServer> <Vitus> I don't think so
22:00:17  <KyleS> !password
22:00:17  <PublicServer> KyleS: grocer
22:00:21  <Mazur> Not htat we are currently aware of.
22:00:28  <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game
22:00:39  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Kyles!
22:00:48  <PublicServer> <sonic> so let's stop building anything until the new savegame is up and running
22:00:54  <PublicServer> <perk11> bye
22:00:55  <PublicServer> *** perk11 has left the game (leaving)
22:00:58  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Yup
22:00:59  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Aye.
22:01:04  <PublicServer> <KyleS> hello
22:01:08  <PublicServer> <sonic> hey KyleS
22:01:58  <PublicServer> *** Cameron:Bed joined the game
22:02:19  <PublicServer> *** Cameron:Bed has changed his/her name to CameronW.
22:02:21  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> b
22:02:38  <V453000> ok
22:02:45  <V453000> now we need someone who loads the save
22:02:55  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> are we allowed to intercity transport?
22:03:03  * PeterT loads V453000 
22:03:04  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Cargo game
22:03:12  <PeterT> CameronW, it's a cargo gam3
22:03:14  <snc> :) can't you just !load savegame?
22:03:15  <PeterT> *game
22:03:18  <V453000> psg185fix.sav
22:03:22  <V453000> oh
22:03:23  <V453000> duh
22:03:30  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> nvm
22:03:34  <PeterT> V453000: !rcon load psg185fix.sav
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22:03:47  <V453000> not rly
22:03:49  <V453000> !rcon loda psg185fix.sav
22:03:50  <PublicServer> V453000: ERROR: command not found
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22:03:56  <V453000> !rcon load psg185fix.sav
22:03:56  <PublicServer> V453000: psg185fix.sav: No such file or directory.
22:04:23  <PeterT> try !rcon ls -t
22:04:49  <V453000> when I have the list of ls
22:04:50  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving)
22:04:58  <V453000> with which command do I select which directory to go into?
22:05:14  <Vitus> Wasn't it "cd"
22:05:15  <Vitus> ?
22:05:22  <PeterT>  !rcon cd <dir-number>
22:05:22  <PublicServer> PeterT: you are not allowed to use !rcon
22:05:27  <Mazur> not simply prepend the directory?
22:05:37  <snc> !password
22:05:38  <PublicServer> snc: serums
22:05:44  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
22:05:48  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
22:05:49  <PublicServer> *** sonic joined the game
22:05:50  <V453000> it ok?
22:05:53  <PublicServer> *** sonic has joined company #1
22:05:59  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
22:05:59  <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players)
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22:06:11  <PublicServer> <sonic> yay!
22:06:14  <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game
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22:06:15  <PublicServer> <sonic> thank you V!
22:06:19  <V453000> fucking yeah!
22:06:19  <V453000> :)
22:06:23  <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game
22:06:23  <V453000> yw
22:06:25  <PublicServer> <sonic> you did it !
22:06:30  <PublicServer> *** Vitus has joined company #1
22:06:31  <PublicServer> <sonic> ;)
22:06:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Three cheers for Peter and V. :D
22:06:38  <Cameron> !password
22:06:39  <PublicServer> Cameron: serums
22:06:52  <PeterT> \o/
22:06:53  <V453000> three for me and .. ?
22:06:56  <PublicServer> <KyleS> \o/
22:06:56  <V453000> :P
22:06:58  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Huzzah, huzzah, huzzah!
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22:07:24  <PublicServer> <sonic> steep hills still slow the trains down
22:07:51  <PublicServer> <sonic> we probably have to flatten the hills
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22:07:57  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> :P
22:08:12  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Not flatten the trains?
22:08:15  <V453000> nah
22:08:16  <V453000> wait
22:08:23  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Then we cojld mail them.
22:08:50  <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game
22:08:54  <V453000> I wonder what is the setting for hill steepness
22:09:49  <V453000> it isnt steep nor hill
22:09:55  <V453000> in the ctrl+F
22:10:14  <Mazur> There is roadveh_slope_steepness nbut that is road vehicles.
22:10:28  <Mazur> train_slope_steepness
22:10:45  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Train one is at 3%
22:10:51  <PublicServer> <Vitus> which is default
22:11:23  <V453000> !rcon set train_slope_steepness = 0
22:11:23  <PublicServer> V453000: - Change setting for all clients. Usage: 'setting <name> [<value>]'
22:11:23  <PublicServer> V453000: - Omitting <value> will print out the current value of the setting.
22:11:35  <Mazur> no =
22:11:38  <V453000> !rcon set train_slope_steepness 0
22:11:40  <V453000> I know
22:11:45  <V453000> I just copied if trom cfg :P
22:12:03  <PublicServer> <sonic> worked
22:12:05  <Mazur> Ah, cut & paste strikes again.
22:12:33  <V453000> preferably copy instead of cut :
22:12:34  <V453000> ):)
22:13:05  <Mazur> That would work.
22:13:14  <Vitus> The hills don't look like they have 0% steepness :D
22:18:59  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nurails fail
22:19:08  <PublicServer> <KyleS> the info feature
22:19:13  <PublicServer> <KyleS> should say what class of rail they belong to
22:19:14  <PublicServer> <KyleS> -.-
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22:19:33  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You can't blame NewGRF then
22:19:55  <Rubidium> !password
22:19:55  <PublicServer> Rubidium: serums
22:20:07  <PublicServer> *** not nobody joined the game
22:20:40  <PeterT> hey Rubidium :)
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22:32:38  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Mazur, you're connecting Kraličky farm atm?
22:32:47  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Noipe.
22:32:52  <PublicServer> <sonic> thats me
22:33:15  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Ah, OK. There's just entry signal missing
22:34:08  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thanks to whomever helped out at transfer 4 :-)
22:34:13  <PublicServer> <KyleS> whomever is helping out*
22:34:30  <PublicServer> <Vitus> What's the problem with CL near Transfer 4?
22:34:40  <PublicServer> <KyleS> oh, i just don't know what the cl should be
22:34:44  <PublicServer> <KyleS> is it ok?
22:34:50  <PublicServer> <Vitus> You have TL3
22:34:53  <PublicServer> <Vitus> So CL3
22:34:54  <PublicServer> <Mazur> TL3
22:34:55  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
22:34:59  <PublicServer> <KyleS> then yep :D
22:35:02  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And we're using Very High Speed Rail
22:35:18  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok, yeah it'll need to be converted
22:35:19  <PublicServer> <Mazur> And very moderate speed engines.
22:35:20  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :/
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22:35:44  <PublicServer> <KyleS> thx for the corrections
22:35:49  <PublicServer> <KyleS> is there a trainyard?
22:35:54  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Nope
22:36:06  <PublicServer> <Vitus> Lok2000
22:36:11  <PublicServer> <Vitus> 2 trains for TL9
22:36:18  <PublicServer> <Vitus> And 1 engine for transfers
22:36:22  <PublicServer> <KyleS> ok
22:36:31  <PublicServer> <Vitus> train != engine :/
22:36:37  <V453000> TL9? I thought it was 7
22:36:39  <PublicServer> <Vitus> But you know what I meant :P
22:36:43  <PublicServer> <Vitus> It is 9
22:36:44  <PublicServer> <KyleS> yeah :D
22:36:48  <V453000> :i
22:37:07  <PublicServer> <Mazur> The network plan has spoken.
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22:39:18  <Vitus> I'm going off, take care.
22:39:24  <Vitus> And good night :)
22:39:25  <PublicServer> <sonic> goodnight!
22:39:28  <PublicServer> <KyleS> night :-)
22:39:31  <PublicServer> <Mazur> Gn.
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22:39:47  <V453000> me iz off too
22:39:48  <V453000> cya
22:39:50  <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm out, too.  Bye, all/
22:39:52  <PublicServer> <sonic> n8
22:39:56  <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving)
22:39:58  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nn mazur
22:40:16  <Mazur> kthnxbai
22:40:22  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :-P
22:41:13  <Mazur> http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129157385690180511.jpg
22:41:28  <KyleS> :o
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22:46:02  <maza> http://174.120.103.90/images-somethingreallyfunny/steven-seagal-emotion-chart.jpg
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22:58:55  <mehdorn> !download
22:58:55  <PublicServer> mehdorn: !download autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x
22:59:01  <mehdorn> !download win32
22:59:01  <PublicServer> mehdorn: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r19874/openttd-trunk-r19874-windows-win32.zip
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23:05:46  <PublicServer> ***  made screenshot at 00014321: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00014321.png
23:06:13  <mehdorn> !password
23:06:13  <PublicServer> mehdorn: riders
23:06:21  <PublicServer> <sonic> huzza
23:06:25  <PublicServer> <KyleS> whee, tycoon of the century \o/
23:06:28  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :P
23:06:31  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> :)
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23:06:43  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> cheers
23:06:52  <PublicServer> <CameronW.>  do much
23:07:07  <PublicServer> <CameronW.> didn't do much^
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23:12:25  <PublicServer> <sonic> im off, goodnight!
23:12:31  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nn sonic :)
23:13:32  <PublicServer> *** sonic has left the game (leaving)
23:13:32  <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players)
23:13:55  <snc> shall i keep idling?
23:14:01  <PublicServer> <KyleS> nah, it's fine
23:14:06  <PublicServer> <KyleS> i have other things to do :)
23:14:19  <snc> hehe, ok :)
23:14:21  <snc> cya
23:14:21  <KyleS> need to get various jobs done :S
23:14:23  <KyleS> cya
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23:54:42  <atdt> @password
23:54:48  <atdt> hmm
23:54:49  <maza> !password
23:54:49  <PublicServer> maza: sherry
23:54:53  <atdt> ah
23:54:58  <atdt> man its been a while
23:55:11  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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23:56:37  <atdt> !password
23:56:37  <PublicServer> atdt: sherry
23:56:49  <PublicServer> *** Player has joined spectators
23:57:01  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> heh
23:57:06  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> my BBH is still here :o
23:57:18  <PublicServer> <Player> so whats the plan here...
23:57:21  <PublicServer> <Player> crap
23:57:25  <PublicServer> <Player> my nameeeee
23:57:38  <PublicServer> *** Player has left the game (leaving)
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23:58:13  <PublicServer> <atdt> jesus this map is long
23:58:43  <PublicServer> <KyleS|afk> yar
23:58:56  <PublicServer> *** KyleS|afk has changed his/her name to KyleS
23:59:07  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> if you're afk just move yourself to spectators ;)
23:59:21  <PublicServer> <KyleS> :S