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00:24:23 *** combuster has quit IRC 00:51:28 *** Fuco has quit IRC 00:59:16 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 01:06:32 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:44:00 *** Snix has joined #openttdcoop 01:50:07 *** Owner has quit IRC 02:38:15 <Mazur> Very interesting blog, V453000, especially as I'd been thinking about ways to fill the ML as full as that, myself. 02:39:30 *** Snix has quit IRC 02:58:52 <VVG> !password 02:58:52 <PublicServer> VVG: artful 02:59:15 <VVG> !password 02:59:15 <PublicServer> VVG: cupped 02:59:27 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 03:00:20 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 03:00:26 <VVG> Still no voting board 03:03:15 <Mazur> No photing bored. 03:03:54 <Mazur> And you have no distinct idea how how to handle the challenge yourself? 03:05:12 <Razaekel> @blog 03:05:15 <Razaekel> >.> 03:05:16 <Webster> #openttdcoop - http://www.openttdcoop.org/blog/?s= 03:05:20 <Razaekel> there we goi 03:06:48 *** gr00vy has quit IRC 03:07:37 *** gr00vy has joined #openttdcoop 03:17:37 <VVG> Mazur: it doesn't matter 03:19:59 <Mazur> Nothing really matters, anything will do, nothing really matters, ... nothing really matters... to me. 03:20:22 <Mazur> Anyway the wind blows. 03:24:09 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 03:25:58 <VVG> Is that queen or i have someting mixed up? 03:32:57 <VVG> It sure is, been a long time since i listened to it. 03:38:47 *** Max| has quit IRC 03:41:12 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 04:04:44 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 04:04:57 *** Lokimaros has joined #openttdcoop 04:06:23 *** Mazur has quit IRC 04:06:30 *** Lokimaros is now known as Mazur 04:10:27 <Razaekel> definitely Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody 04:10:35 <Razaekel> Is this the real life? 04:10:41 <Razaekel> is this just fantasy? 04:10:46 <Razaekel> caught in a landslide 04:10:50 <Razaekel> no escape from reality 04:19:41 *** sparr has joined #openttdcoop 04:22:02 <Mazur> It was, the nd of that one. 04:22:29 <Mazur> Now for the Pretenders: I go to sleep... 04:22:38 *** Mazur has quit IRC 04:22:42 <Razaekel> >.> 04:22:49 <Razaekel> sandman is better 04:29:39 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 04:36:23 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 04:37:48 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 04:37:48 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 04:37:55 <Mark> morning 04:45:22 <Mark> !info 04:45:22 <PublicServer> Mark: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Allan & Co.' Year Founded: 1970 Money: 4469900 Loan: 0 Value: 4535840 (T:0, R:0, P:2, S:0) unprotected 05:05:15 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 05:07:19 *** Mark has quit IRC 05:08:48 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 05:18:27 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 05:18:36 <Absolutis> !password 05:18:36 <PublicServer> Absolutis: fracas 05:18:38 <Absolutis> yo 05:18:57 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis Dummy joined the game 05:19:09 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis Dummy has changed his/her name to Absolutis 05:21:21 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 05:21:26 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 06:08:06 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 06:17:33 *** bothie has quit IRC 06:25:05 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 06:27:22 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 06:37:24 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 06:46:14 *** Deamonhunter11 has joined #openttdcoop 06:46:39 <Deamonhunter11> !password 06:46:39 <PublicServer> Deamonhunter11: piqued 06:47:26 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 joined the game 06:48:48 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 06:55:11 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has joined company #1 07:01:15 <slaca> !password 07:01:15 <PublicServer> slaca: uphold 07:01:38 <PublicServer> *** slaca joined the game 07:02:16 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello 07:03:27 <PublicServer> <slaca> hi 07:03:32 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 07:03:35 *** slaca has quit IRC 07:08:01 *** Phazorx has joined #openttdcoop 07:08:01 *** Webster sets mode: +o Phazorx 07:09:23 *** Kolbur has joined #openttdcoop 07:17:29 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:17:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:24:20 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 07:24:27 <sharpy> !password 07:24:27 <PublicServer> sharpy: teacup 07:24:51 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:24:52 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 07:26:54 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 07:29:53 <V453000> <Mazur> Very interesting blog, V453000, especially as I'd been thinking about ways to fill the ML as full as that, myself. thx Mazur :) 07:37:33 <ODM> someoen got really bored building that 07:38:07 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 07:39:21 <ODM> looks very impressive 07:39:31 <ODM> though im not sure about future viability^^ 07:41:37 *** asnoehu has quit IRC 07:42:40 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 07:43:07 <Absolutis> !password 07:43:07 <PublicServer> Absolutis: babier 07:43:25 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 07:45:43 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:48:49 *** asnoehu has joined #openttdcoop 07:51:53 *** Kolbur has left #openttdcoop 07:52:10 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> hello absolutis 07:52:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> hello 07:52:36 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> how long does planning phase go for 07:53:14 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> until everybody had a chance to submit a plan 07:54:26 <VVG> usually, until the voting is over 07:54:37 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> okay 07:54:38 <VVG> and the voting in this game has not started yet 07:54:55 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> The plans can still be submitted on voting 07:55:46 <VVG> everyone is free to submit a plan, and everyone is free to not submit a plan :p 07:57:25 <V453000> ODM: as I wrote :) it is one of those unique games that are most likely never going to be repeated 07:57:40 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> lol 07:57:43 <ODM> hehe 07:57:49 <ODM> looks fancy though:D 07:57:53 <V453000> :) 07:57:56 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> yeah 07:58:35 <V453000> and 154 900 is insane :D 07:58:51 <V453000> !password btw 07:58:51 <PublicServer> V453000: dainty 07:58:59 <VVG> that pz game reminded me of a screenshot of calculator built in ottd i saw once on ttforums :) 07:59:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 07:59:12 <V453000> VVG: nothing to do with it :) 07:59:44 <VVG> but consuquently, looks similar :p 07:59:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 08:00:13 <VVG> make a voting board , pretty please 08:00:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am making it already 08:01:10 *** roboboy has quit IRC 08:01:13 <VVG> can't see it through irc, sorry :) 08:01:38 <VVG> !password 08:01:38 <PublicServer> VVG: creeks 08:01:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> I actually started about 15 seconds before you wrote it :P 08:01:53 <PublicServer> *** VVG joined the game 08:02:03 <V453000> @stage Voting 08:02:03 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 08:03:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:05:07 <PublicServer> *** VVG has left the game (leaving) 08:05:17 <VVG> thx 08:05:23 <V453000> yw 08:05:28 <V453000> it was time to do it anyway 08:05:40 <VVG> long past it :p 08:05:44 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'm still doing my plan :( 08:06:30 <VVG> it's just started, not many voters visited their urns yet 08:08:31 <V453000> just finish your plan 08:08:33 <V453000> :) 08:10:13 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> 11th vote=win? 08:10:31 <VVG> doub it, most wins->vote 08:10:36 <VVG> err 08:10:38 <V453000> :D 08:10:41 <VVG> most votes->wins 08:10:46 <V453000> Absolutis: you have a personal message btw 08:10:49 <V453000> a few actually 08:13:46 <VVG> btw, last game used dbset with 3tl trains, so i thought mb it's better to use 2cc with such low tl, for higher capacity? 08:14:01 <V453000> why 08:14:05 <V453000> 2cc is straight up retarded 08:14:05 <Absolutis> !rules 08:14:05 <PublicServer> Absolutis: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Ruleset 08:14:10 <VVG> higher capacity 08:14:13 <V453000> yes, retarded 08:14:26 <VVG> no, different :p 08:14:26 <V453000> all trainset have some standards, only 2cc has to have larger 08:14:30 <V453000> boring, retarded. 08:15:38 <V453000> I hated 2cc set even before, but now it is even worse 08:15:45 <V453000> for pax it is quite ok 08:15:51 <V453000> but for cargo it is disgusting 08:15:51 <Absolutis> i like it 08:16:12 <Absolutis> but for cargo, its not really even as good as nars 08:16:20 <V453000> yea nars sucks too :D 08:16:23 <V453000> but not that much :) 08:16:43 <V453000> nars is at least not braindead, and has some nice possibilities and choices 08:16:56 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> altough i like the regearing 08:17:07 <V453000> well that is nice but you cant use it when autoreplacing 08:17:09 <V453000> for example 08:17:12 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 08:17:12 <VVG> what does that regearing do? 08:17:19 <V453000> change tractive efforts 08:17:21 <V453000> and speeds 08:17:27 <V453000> you can basically have any train you want 08:17:39 <VVG> eh? 08:17:40 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> Sacrifices speed for tractive effort or vice versa 08:17:43 <V453000> try it 08:17:58 <V453000> just refit the train to some other "cargo" 08:18:14 <VVG> i'll wait until it's used here :) 08:18:16 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> And the train must be regearable 08:18:27 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 08:18:29 <PublicServer> <Intexon> hello 08:18:33 <V453000> anyway, the trainset I consider best without any competitors is UKRS 08:18:35 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> thats in the spot of capacity 08:18:49 <VVG> after trying mp, building big networks in sp is just too much work and i'm not interested in other kinds of networks 08:19:02 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i consider UKRS the best with 2 competitors, UKRS2 and 2cc 08:19:33 <VVG> i don't lik ukrs using company colours 08:19:34 <V453000> UKRS2? 08:19:36 <V453000> :/ 08:19:42 <V453000> company colours are nice :) 08:20:01 <VVG> i don't like them, they are dull 08:20:02 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> an another trainset made by pikka, themed like UKRS. 08:20:03 <V453000> and UKRS has perfect stats and unmatched variability of possibilities 08:20:11 <V453000> yes, UKRS2 sox imo 08:20:16 <VVG> canset is great in this respect 08:21:04 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> there 08:21:08 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> finished my pln 08:21:11 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> plan* 08:27:23 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 08:27:38 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> voting board up :) 08:30:08 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> i'll come back later 08:30:11 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has left the game (leaving) 08:31:11 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 08:31:38 *** sharpy has quit IRC 08:31:42 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (leaving) 08:31:48 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 08:32:23 <Intexon> I'm always wondering how's that supposed to be - can you vote if you make a plan or not? 08:39:12 <V453000> !password 08:39:12 <PublicServer> V453000: busily 08:39:22 <V453000> Intexon: not for yourself, otherwise .. why not 08:39:39 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 08:42:03 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> looks like combuster is going to win 08:42:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> should be so :) 08:43:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> his plan is best imo 08:43:06 <PublicServer> <Deamonhunter11> it's a battle plan :) 08:43:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> mine has sme idea but is a bit over-combinated 08:43:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> some 08:43:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> Intexon doesnt have a bad plan but it is kinda nothing interesting there :) 08:44:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> the other two plans make no sense :) 08:45:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:57:17 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined company #1 08:59:45 <PublicServer> *** Spike has joined spectators 09:00:05 <PublicServer> *** Deamonhunter11 has left the game (leaving) 09:00:05 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 09:00:08 *** Deamonhunter11 has quit IRC 09:00:29 *** fmauneko has joined #openttdcoop 09:10:47 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 09:15:04 *** Lukeus_Maximus has joined #openttdcoop 09:18:12 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 09:19:18 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 09:21:42 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 09:23:21 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 09:25:18 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 09:25:18 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: dangle 09:25:25 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 09:25:26 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 09:25:55 <Lukeus_Maximus> I have a vote! 09:26:02 <Lukeus_Maximus> moving up in the world... 09:30:38 *** combuster has joined #openttdcoop 09:40:27 <Lukeus_Maximus> can we vote for our own plan or is that considered bad form? 09:47:19 <^Spike^> what you think 09:48:54 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 09:51:27 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 09:54:12 <combuster> Lukeus_Maximus: do you know this trainset doesn't do maglev? 09:54:21 <Lukeus_Maximus> no 09:54:24 <Lukeus_Maximus> I don't 09:55:04 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 09:55:06 <combuster> you may want to fix your plan accordingly 09:55:27 <Lukeus_Maximus> so what is the Consortium Gemini (Maglev) if maglev isn't in this train set? 09:57:39 <V453000> Combuster: fail D: 09:58:14 <Lukeus_Maximus> did I win? 09:58:20 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving) 09:58:36 <V453000> there is maglev in this set 09:59:20 <Lukeus_Maximus> however, only one of them by the looks of it 09:59:25 <Lukeus_Maximus> and no monorail 10:00:24 <V453000> one is enough, isnt it 10:01:36 <combuster> hmm, was this then the limited maglev thing... 10:03:17 <combuster> ah 10:03:25 <combuster> pax+mail+goods+valuables only 10:04:11 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 10:04:14 <V453000> that is enough :) 10:04:20 <V453000> wait, no food? :D 10:04:25 <Lukeus_Maximus> one is indeed enough 10:04:31 <V453000> oh you tested in temperate 10:04:32 <V453000> nevm 10:04:33 <V453000> nvm 10:04:40 <Lukeus_Maximus> now to add the train name to my plan so that fail doesn't occur again 10:05:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> it does mean that the entire network can't be maglev 10:05:48 <PublicServer> <Combuster> only secondaries 10:06:06 *** devilsadvocate has joined #openttdcoop 10:06:08 <Lukeus_Maximus> hmm 10:06:16 <Lukeus_Maximus> I'll take a look 10:06:23 <V453000> oh 10:08:49 <Lukeus_Maximus> this maglev box car 10:08:56 <Lukeus_Maximus> what can it be refitted to? 10:09:00 <V453000> read? 10:09:05 <PublicServer> <Combuster> in temperate, it can't 10:09:32 <Lukeus_Maximus> I can only see that there are three maglev wagons, pax, mail and a box car 10:10:08 <Lukeus_Maximus> so it's kinda essential I find out what this boxcar can be refitted to 10:10:08 <PublicServer> <Combuster> start a game locally 10:10:15 * Lukeus_Maximus goes testing 10:10:23 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (gemini is 2010) 10:11:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> pfft, why do people want complex network trickery 10:12:31 <Lukeus_Maximus> oh dear 10:12:46 <Lukeus_Maximus> it appears the box car only does food and goods 10:12:54 <Lukeus_Maximus> while mail does mail and diamonds 10:17:59 <XeryusTC> !password 10:17:59 <PublicServer> XeryusTC: crewed 10:18:06 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 10:19:15 <XeryusTC> everyone mind if i mangle the voting board to a different voting style? 10:19:29 <Lukeus_Maximus> nope 10:19:31 <Lukeus_Maximus> go for it 10:19:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> different style as in? 10:20:27 <Lukeus_Maximus> wait, perhaps we should make a seperate board for voting on whether or not to change the voting style... 10:20:50 <V453000> why would we change the voting style and how? :o 10:20:50 <XeryusTC> combuster: voting 1-5 with 5 being the one you like the most 10:20:54 <Lukeus_Maximus> combuster, different style as in elimination 10:20:56 <combuster> LM: isn't soviet russia 10:21:07 <XeryusTC> 4 being the second most liked 10:21:59 <combuster> i.e. a point system 10:22:12 <XeryusTC> and then the one with the most points wins ofcourse ;) 10:22:31 <V453000> you remember the last time we used point system? 10:22:35 <combuster> Every system has its advantages and disadvantagees 10:22:54 <XeryusTC> V453000: no, what happened? 10:23:05 <combuster> it tends to cause tactical voting and no clear winners 10:23:10 <V453000> indeed 10:23:52 <XeryusTC> true, but i can see already that most people will now vote for combuster from the voting board only 10:24:07 <V453000> let them vote for combuster then :) 10:24:10 <V453000> he has the best plan 10:24:26 <combuster> are you suggesting that people just stick their name under the plan with the most votes? 10:24:45 <XeryusTC> but they'll vote because it is the most popular plan, not necessarily because they think it's best 10:25:49 <V453000> I doubt you can eliminate the problem of newby people voting without having an actual idea 10:27:27 <XeryusTC> the only way you can completely eliminate such things if you make it completely anonymous and people wont be able to see each other's votes 10:27:40 <XeryusTC> but that isnt possible ingame 10:27:59 <combuster> Maybe ask kenji/webster? 10:28:43 <combuster> but in that case, better save it for later 10:28:55 <XeryusTC> yeah, little use to do it now 10:29:02 <XeryusTC> but at least we can try points voting for now 10:29:42 *** Vitus has joined #openttdcoop 10:30:01 <XeryusTC> and i doubt that people will suddenly change their vote for the most popular plan late in the voting stage 10:30:16 <Vitus> Oh, voting 10:30:22 <combuster> Hi Vitus 10:30:25 <Vitus> Hey 10:30:40 <Vitus> !password 10:30:40 <PublicServer> Vitus: vealed 10:31:02 <PublicServer> *** Vitus joined the game 10:31:07 <combuster> XeryusTC: given the people who are here, we as members are going to set a precedent 10:31:12 <combuster> even with a point system 10:32:30 <XeryusTC> true, but hopefully it will be less 10:32:47 <combuster> The alternative is an elimination vote 10:33:04 <combuster> the only problem is that it's going to take a lot longer 10:33:12 <XeryusTC> _alot_ longer 10:33:49 <Lukeus_Maximus> unless you purposefully post a time when eliminative voting will take place and do it all at once 10:34:04 <Lukeus_Maximus> then it'll be done quite quickly 10:34:17 <combuster> True, if you have like 8 people in here at the same time 10:34:23 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 10:34:26 <combuster> elimination votes can be done in like 10 minutes 10:35:35 <combuster> an other idea 10:36:02 <combuster> is to give people 10 points to award in the way they see fit 10:36:32 <combuster> it's more sensitive to popularity votes 10:36:45 <combuster> but at least you can give plans equal scores 10:37:01 <XeryusTC> if i understand you correctly it is almost the same as points voting 10:37:07 <combuster> it's not 10:37:24 <combuster> with point voting a good and a bad plan will have one point difference 10:37:44 <combuster> with award voting the difference can be a lot bigger 10:39:06 <XeryusTC> but people can also just give 10 points to the plan which has the most points 10:39:16 <XeryusTC> it isnt much different from the current voting method imo 10:39:43 <combuster> not if people are forced to vote for at least two plans 10:40:15 <combuster> like, you have 10 points, distribute them as you see fit, but you can only award 5 points to an individual plan 10:41:22 <XeryusTC> so they all vote 5 for the same plan and equally distribute the other 5 points between all plans :o 10:41:46 <XeryusTC> imo a method of just saying i like this one best, then this one, then this one etc is better imo 10:42:41 <PublicServer> <Combuster> OTOH, "this plan sucks but I'm still forced to give you three points" 10:43:34 <XeryusTC> or you just give it 1 point ;) 10:43:38 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:43:38 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:44:09 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Which doesn't work if there are three noob/CB plans around 10:44:33 <PublicServer> <Combuster> mediocre plans are rare 10:44:43 <Hippidy> not that it's any of my business but why not have it up to 10 points and not have to use them all? 10:45:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> because then you can stuff 5 points in one plan and not promote anything else? 10:46:25 <Hippidy> I suppose.. as that would change it to a first past the post type system 10:47:18 <combuster> If people were just able to semi-objectively grade plans 10:48:51 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 10:49:13 <V453000> I like the noob/CB plan definition :D 10:49:36 <XeryusTC> combuster: lets try your method then ;) 10:49:43 <[com]buster> before CB, it would probably have been noob/progman though ;) 10:50:07 <V453000> have no experience about progman :) 10:50:20 <[com]buster> PZ game with ECS 10:50:25 <V453000> uh oh 10:50:55 <Progman> what? 10:51:01 <VVG> what's wrong with current voting system? 10:51:54 <[com]buster> oops :) 10:52:16 <XeryusTC> VVG: loads of people vote for the plan with the most votes 10:52:24 <XeryusTC> instead of the one which they like best 10:52:50 <Hippidy> why not set up a poll on the wiki and only show the results once you have voted? 10:53:44 <[com]buster> That doesn't really gets set up before we want to start this game 10:54:49 <[com]buster> @progman: I was comparing CB's plans to yours as in they are generally (unneededly?) complex 10:55:23 *** combuster has quit IRC 10:55:23 *** [com]buster is now known as combuster 10:55:48 <VVG> Does it really matter in what kind of way they vote? 10:56:03 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus has left the game (connection lost) 10:56:11 <combuster> I think we let this vote unaltered for now 10:56:27 <combuster> and prepare something for next voting round 10:57:58 <combuster> V453000: http://openttdcoop.org/files/prozone_archive/ProZoneGame_8_Final.sav that's imo typically progman 10:58:33 <PublicServer> <Vitus> Combuster: Awesome plan :D 10:59:03 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has joined spectators 10:59:35 <Progman> yeah, thats mine *g* 11:00:03 <XeryusTC> VVG: because now it is more of a popularity contest than a which plan fits best contest 11:00:11 <Progman> but handling the full ECS vectors aren't easy 11:01:10 <combuster> Did I ever say it was a bad plan? 11:01:29 <Progman> no, its just complex ;) 11:01:50 <Intexon> some of the BBHs in that game are really interesting :D 11:02:12 <combuster> It's like the least finished PZ game ever 11:02:16 <Hippidy> BBH C5 looks really well done =) 11:02:46 <combuster> Have you tried halloween hub? 11:02:56 <combuster> (B5) 11:03:12 <Hippidy> oooh nice 11:04:13 <PublicServer> *** Vitus has left the game (leaving) 11:06:52 <combuster> No votes, vitus? 11:07:05 <Vitus> Noes, I can't decide 11:07:22 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Same problem here 11:07:33 <V453000> just vote for combuster :) 11:08:18 <Vitus> PZ08 is really overkill deluxe :) 11:09:47 <combuster> Knowing that I'm probably the one who spent the most time on that 11:12:40 <Lukeus_Maximus> !password 11:12:41 <PublicServer> Lukeus_Maximus: nephew 11:12:50 <PublicServer> *** Lukeus Maximus joined the game 11:21:53 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 11:22:20 <XeryusTC> hmm, combuster's plan is the least sucky after all :o 11:22:35 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 11:24:03 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:40 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 11:27:43 <Phazorx> !screen 11:27:43 <PublicServer> *** Phazorx liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/screenshot.png) 11:30:19 <V453000> Phazorx alive? :) we just finished a SML based pz yesterday :p 11:30:49 <Mazur> Crazy. 11:31:28 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 11:34:51 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 11:40:35 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 11:44:03 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000065E6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000065E6.png 11:44:06 <Phazorx> V453000: when you say "SML" i usualy get confused 11:44:11 <Phazorx> and i am barely alive here 11:44:17 <Phazorx> we got +35-40 C 11:44:39 <Phazorx> so i'm off to some dacha most of time near water and partially submerged 11:45:02 <V453000> heh 11:45:02 <V453000> confused 11:46:08 <Phazorx> i tihnk we set at some point what we use term sml differently :) 11:48:26 <V453000> yea 11:48:41 <V453000> at the last game I think it was quite the same as yours :p 11:48:56 <V453000> only put in a perfect shape :) 11:49:39 <Phazorx> pur sml?, no srnw fanciness? 11:50:13 <V453000> SML with timing 11:50:18 <V453000> to reach absolute packing 11:50:29 <Phazorx> so with packers/compressors? 11:50:39 <V453000> no 11:50:41 <V453000> just timers 11:50:46 <Phazorx> and absolute packing is unreachable in current state of game actualy 11:50:49 <V453000> and having everything synchronized 11:50:53 <Phazorx> due to FS1063 11:51:05 <V453000> well, absolute packing with FS1063 11:51:15 <V453000> take that bug as unsolvable :) 11:51:37 <Phazorx> it is slvable relatively easy actually 11:51:56 <Phazorx> the human factor is unpassable tho :) 11:51:57 <V453000> but it isnt going to be solved :) 11:51:59 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 11:52:06 <Phazorx> yeah... sad 11:52:08 <Absolutis> !password 11:52:08 <PublicServer> Absolutis: gerbil 11:52:23 <V453000> check out the pz game :p it was quite awesome 11:52:31 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis joined the game 11:52:38 <Phazorx> will do once svn is synced 11:54:34 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> I'd predict V. or combuster is going to win 11:54:53 <PublicServer> *** Absolutis has joined spectators 11:55:01 <PublicServer> <Absolutis> playing other servers 11:59:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 11:59:52 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 12:03:38 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 12:07:01 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 12:07:31 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 12:07:46 <avdg> hi Hippidy 12:11:48 *** hip has joined #openttdcoop 12:13:50 <Phazorx> Absolutis is octopuss Paul? 12:14:06 <Absolutis> octopuss? 12:15:38 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 12:17:42 *** Benom has joined #openttdcoop 12:18:24 <Phazorx> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_octopus 12:18:25 <Webster> Title: Paul the octopus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) 12:21:49 <Absolutis> possibly. 12:21:53 <Absolutis> :) 12:23:23 *** hylje has quit IRC 12:24:13 *** hylje has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:13 *** 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<Ammler> !players 13:19:18 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 204 (Orange) is Combuster, in company 1 (Allan & Co.) 13:19:18 <PublicServer> Ammler: Client 191 is Intexon, a spectator 13:19:21 <Ammler> !restart 13:19:21 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 13:22:17 <Ammler> !save 13:22:17 <PublicServer> Saving game... 13:22:21 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:22:38 <Ammler> hmm 13:22:44 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:22:44 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:22:44 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 13:22:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 13:22:44 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:22:54 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:23:08 <Ammler> new debian and still no kill signal suppor 13:23:12 <Ammler> t 13:23:42 <Ammler> !rcon load game 13:29:46 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:29:46 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:29:46 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 13:29:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 13:29:47 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:29:51 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:30:45 *** sulai has quit IRC 13:30:55 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:30:55 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:30:55 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server 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depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:31:47 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:32:32 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:32:32 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:32:33 <PublicServer> Starting new game: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 13:32:33 <PublicServer> Landscape: normal 13:32:33 <PublicServer> Dimensions: 512x512 13:32:33 <PublicServer> Starting year: 1980 13:32:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 13:32:34 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:32:40 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 13:32:51 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:33:03 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:33:03 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:33:03 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Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:37:49 <Ammler> !restart 13:37:49 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 13:39:43 *** combuster has quit IRC 13:39:43 *** [com]buster is now known as combuster 13:43:22 <Ammler> !restart 13:43:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: Map successfully saved to restart.sav 13:43:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 13:43:44 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 13:43:55 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 13:43:55 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 13:43:55 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 13:43:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 13:43:55 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG #191 (r20279) | STAGE: Voting | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | Screenshots: http://img.openttdcoop.org | Coopetition ladder: http://mz.openttdcoop.org/ladder | Welcome to the depths of insanity | create a wiki userpage" 13:44:50 <Ammler> !content 13:44:50 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 0 files (0 bytes) 13:46:07 *** devilsadvocate has quit IRC 13:47:45 *** perk11 has quit IRC 13:49:00 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 13:49:22 *** Max| has joined #openttdcoop 13:59:26 <Ammler> !content 13:59:26 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 14 files (5338697 bytes) 14:14:59 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 14:15:02 <Ammler> !content 14:15:02 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 1 files (3945409 bytes) 14:15:46 <Ammler> !content 14:15:46 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 1 files (3945409 bytes) 14:16:18 <Ammler> !content 14:16:18 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 1 files (3945409 bytes) 14:16:22 <Ammler> hmm 14:19:44 *** combuster has quit IRC 14:31:26 <Ammler> !content 14:31:26 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 1 files (3945409 bytes) 14:31:32 <Ammler> wth 14:31:55 <V453000> hmm :D 14:32:30 <Ammler> !content 14:32:30 <PublicServer> *** Ammler has updated content from BaNaNaS: 1 files (3945409 bytes) 14:32:30 <PublicServer> Ammler: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 14:54:56 <avdg> hmm 14:57:13 *** Absolutis has joined #openttdcoop 14:57:25 <Absolutis> hmm... how's the voting going? 14:58:05 <Absolutis> how much votes each plan has? 14:58:50 *** Absolutis has quit IRC 15:00:44 <V453000> ask and leave 15:00:46 <V453000> that is the way to go 15:00:53 <avdg> yeah 15:01:13 <avdg> its even wurst on channels with programming problem 15:01:21 <avdg> they come, ask to ask a question 15:01:28 <avdg> and before you can respond, they are gone 15:06:53 *** slaca has quit IRC 15:16:11 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 15:16:20 <sharpy> !password 15:16:20 <PublicServer> sharpy: pusher 15:16:44 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 15:18:21 <^Spike^> avdg that is nothing... 15:18:26 <^Spike^> i have ppl joining help channel 15:18:28 <^Spike^> not say a word 15:18:29 <^Spike^> and leave 15:19:30 <avdg> indeed :/ but I prefer to ignore these 15:19:56 <avdg> I don't know why they join the channel 15:20:17 <^Spike^> i don't care anymore... saves me wasting my time :) 15:24:37 <^Spike^> after some years you get so used to it... you just go like: Ok... then no help 15:24:46 <^Spike^> it's not me wanting answers :) 15:25:16 <avdg> :p I'm not solving actually on irc 15:25:27 <avdg> they do it mostly from there own 15:25:47 <avdg> all you have to do is asking the right questions and pointing the right references 15:25:51 <^Spike^> oh well... i'm on another irc server where i'm in the help channel... so i do alot of irc trouble shooting... 15:26:10 <avdg> that solves arround 60% of the questions 15:28:33 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 15:28:44 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 15:28:54 *** Seberoth has joined #openttdcoop 15:28:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 15:29:45 <fmauneko> !password 15:29:45 <PublicServer> fmauneko: ravens 15:29:52 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 15:29:55 <PublicServer> <fmauNeko> Ohai 15:31:46 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 15:31:53 <fmauneko> Vote cast :p 15:37:59 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 15:39:58 <Osai^2> V453000: very nice article 15:40:03 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 15:40:11 <V453000> thanks Osai :) 15:47:17 *** hip has quit IRC 15:47:52 * avdg <3 the waiting for baking new osx binaries *sarcastic* 15:48:43 *** heffer has joined #openttdcoop 15:49:24 <fmauneko> :p 15:49:32 <fmauneko> I have binaries :p 15:50:04 <avdg> hmm… 2 warnings at newgrf_config 15:50:19 <avdg> .cpp 15:53:09 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:53:10 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 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<PublicServer> <avdg> beh so many mountains 16:00:11 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 16:00:46 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 16:01:34 *** heffer has quit IRC 16:15:19 *** Doorslammer has quit IRC 16:15:58 *** Doorslammer has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:01 <V453000> is everyone playing StarCraft 2 or wut? :D 16:19:20 <avdg> don't look at me :p 16:28:02 *** Intexon has quit IRC 16:29:43 *** sharpy has quit IRC 16:31:39 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 16:32:43 <fmauneko> V453000: I already finished it, I'm just waiting for the voting to finish :p 16:42:48 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 16:48:55 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 17:02:09 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 17:13:53 *** Yexo has quit IRC 17:13:55 *** Yexo_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:14:11 *** Yexo_ is now known as Yexo 17:16:58 *** `real has quit IRC 17:17:11 *** perk11 has quit IRC 17:17:47 *** KyleS_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:18:14 <KyleS_> !password 17:18:14 <PublicServer> 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<PublicServer> lasershock: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r20279/openttd-trunk-r20279-windows-win64.zip 20:11:05 <lasershock> !password 20:11:05 <PublicServer> lasershock: vortex 20:11:19 <PublicServer> *** lasershock joined the game 20:11:55 <PublicServer> *** lasershock has left the game (leaving) 20:22:22 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 20:22:29 <sharpy> !password 20:22:29 <PublicServer> sharpy: newton 20:22:51 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 20:26:11 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 20:26:18 *** sharpy has quit IRC 20:42:47 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 21:10:32 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:10:37 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 21:24:27 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 21:25:59 *** Lukeus_Maximus has quit IRC 21:28:29 <PublicServer> *** Intexon has left the game (leaving) 21:29:09 *** Lelle has quit IRC 21:30:39 *** heffer has quit IRC 21:36:19 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:36:46 *** combuster has joined #openttdcoop 21:38:57 <PublicServer> *** Combuster joined the game 21:47:51 <combuster> hmz 21:47:59 <combuster> what do people have against my plan :( 21:48:16 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators 21:48:58 <avdg> hmm 21:49:17 <avdg> !password 21:49:17 <PublicServer> avdg: locker 21:49:28 <avdg> *unlocker 21:49:40 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 21:49:58 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:49:59 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:50:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 21:50:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 21:50:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> hey Vbignum 21:50:11 <PublicServer> <Combuster> and avdg 21:50:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 21:51:15 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:51:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:51:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> V's plan is more detailled 21:51:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Amount of text!= amount of readability 21:51:44 <V453000> the details are important :) 21:51:55 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 21:51:55 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:52:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> combusters plan is more a strategy :p 21:52:20 <V453000> hehe 21:52:44 <V453000> I dont like there dodging the rainforests :( 21:52:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't like the hills 21:53:07 <V453000> hehea 21:53:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> avoiding hills = avoiding rainforest 21:53:14 <V453000> arctic terragenesis ftw :p 21:54:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> Well, I don't know for who to vote :p 21:54:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> I could create a draw, but thats not a fair vote (for now) 21:54:59 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (could not load map) 21:55:26 *** benom has quit IRC 21:55:45 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Why is choosing the best plan not fair? :) 21:55:48 <PublicServer> * avdg misses classic networks 21:56:02 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 21:56:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> because I vote for the draw, not for the plan :p 21:56:52 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 21:56:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey spike 21:57:39 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I doubt how many people read the scenario instructions 21:58:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p yeah, why not tf the planet in this game :) 21:58:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a human's map 21:58:29 <PublicServer> * avdg is kidding 21:58:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004EDA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004EDA.png 22:00:09 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 22:00:14 <avdg> hey 22:00:17 <^Spike^> just place a design that is undoable on this map.. and add the sign: Heavy TF 22:00:23 <^Spike^> see how many votes it gets 22:00:23 <^Spike^> ;) 22:01:07 <avdg> giant tf and building a big array of notgates :d 22:01:58 <PublicServer> * Combuster wonders why the Acela loc isn't out yet 22:02:15 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 22:02:58 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined spectators 22:03:44 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 22:03:57 <Hippidy> how long does the voting stage normally take? 22:04:21 <PublicServer> <Combuster> not this long 22:04:54 <Hippidy> The map has been on for 2(?) days :) 22:05:17 <PublicServer> <Combuster> basically it looks like a race between people wanting to do logic madness and the ones who actually want to play out the scenario 22:05:50 *** Timmaexx has joined #openttdcoop 22:05:51 <avdg> beh I have to wait for better signals anyway 22:06:05 <avdg> advanced logics isn't coming soon, yet 22:08:48 * combuster completed the hack of the day 22:09:16 <V453000> Combuster: there is no acela 22:09:18 <combuster> ATX power supply, feeding a carkit, charging my mobile phone 22:09:29 <V453000> you might have messed up US and NARS sets :p 22:09:37 <combuster> It used to be in NARS, and it is still on the NARS list 22:09:49 <V453000> o_O 22:09:50 <V453000> sorry then 22:09:56 <combuster> only problem 22:10:01 <combuster> release date says 2001 22:10:09 <combuster> so something doesn't add up here :/ 22:10:10 <V453000> the AEM7? 22:10:22 <V453000> I guess not :p 22:10:22 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 22:10:39 <combuster> http://users.tt-forums.net/pikka/wiki/index.php?title=NARS_Vehicle_List 22:11:10 <V453000> isnt that some pax train in temperate? 22:11:31 <sharpy> !password 22:11:31 <PublicServer> sharpy: chaste 22:12:05 <PublicServer> *** sharpy joined the game 22:13:38 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 22:13:46 *** sharpy has quit IRC 22:14:02 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000042DA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/000042DA.png 22:16:14 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ah, the Gemini is here 22:18:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> looks nice 22:19:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 22:19:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> we have limited money 22:20:16 <PublicServer> <sharpy> is it actually limited? 22:20:27 <PublicServer> <sharpy> or would a better money maker improve things 22:20:32 *** KyleS_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:20:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe its better to build first the most important line 22:20:50 <KyleS_> !password 22:20:50 <PublicServer> KyleS_: marble 22:21:00 <PublicServer> *** KyleS joined the game 22:21:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> and activate it as quickly as possible 22:21:18 <PublicServer> <Combuster> My plan has an ordered tasklist :) 22:21:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) salesman 22:21:47 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I'm not winning atm, why not? :P 22:22:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> the train has a nice sound 22:22:18 *** sharpy has joined #openttdcoop 22:22:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm already thinking at the sound when the network is full 22:23:43 <PublicServer> <Combuster> the sound plays continuously 22:23:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> that'll seriously hurt the mixer 22:23:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> the train is quite sheep in running 22:24:07 <PublicServer> <Combuster> sheep? 22:24:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> cheep 22:24:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 22:24:30 <PublicServer> <Combuster> cheAp :p 22:24:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> ok then... 22:25:02 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 22:25:25 <PublicServer> *** KyleS has left the game (leaving) 22:25:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> *votes 22:25:54 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators 22:26:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:26:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> srr 22:26:49 <PublicServer> * Combuster starts wondering if people vote for V453000 because he won like the 10 previous games too... 22:27:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> engine heaven :p 22:27:40 <KyleS_> lol, that's not why i voted for him :S 22:27:43 <KyleS_> for his plan* 22:28:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm... I hope that refit will not end in depot hell 22:28:29 <PublicServer> <Combuster> you can still change vote :) 22:28:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> I want be sure pf's can't access the depot from anywhere 22:28:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> just technical notes :p 22:29:04 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004E23: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00004E23.png 22:29:18 <V453000> avdg: see psg 186 :p it worked 22:29:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah I know 22:29:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> but 1 wrong button is enough to depot all trains 22:29:44 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has left the game (leaving) 22:29:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> and thats 1 button too much :p 22:30:27 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy joined the game 22:31:00 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined company #1 22:31:07 *** KyleS_ has quit IRC 22:31:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> Isn't the maglev not a bit underpowered? 22:32:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh nvm 22:32:56 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Hippidy: have you considered voting? 22:33:03 <V453000> see how many maglevs I have in one train avdg :p 22:33:10 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> didn't realise I was allowed :p 22:33:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> strange: the running cost is only 50% 22:33:34 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Everybody is 22:33:45 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> thought it was members only 22:34:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hippidy: feel the freedom :) 22:34:36 <PublicServer> *** sharpy has left the game (connection lost) 22:34:57 <PublicServer> <Combuster> I only see three members among the votes... 22:35:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. 1k each vehicle 22:35:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> extra power 22:35:25 *** Timmaexx has quit IRC 22:35:33 *** Seberoth has quit IRC 22:35:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p strange train set 22:36:12 *** mixrin has joined #openttdcoop 22:36:37 <PublicServer> <Combuster> What I find weird too 22:36:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. I'll have a rethink 22:36:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> is that one of V's trains 22:36:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> @votingboard 22:36:59 <PublicServer> <Combuster> is TL8, and has 6 locs 22:37:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> it can only be used in sets of 3tl 22:37:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> tl 9 makes more sense I think 22:37:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> making it 3 groups of 3 22:37:54 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (which means about 22:37:57 <fmauneko> !password 22:37:57 <PublicServer> fmauneko: flanks 22:38:00 *** sharpy has quit IRC 22:38:04 <PublicServer> <Combuster> 10 wagons for 6 locs 22:38:07 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko joined the game 22:38:08 <V453000> Combuster: goes over hills, and see the hill steepness and multipliers 22:40:08 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 22:40:46 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined company #1 22:41:08 <PublicServer> *** Hippidy has joined spectators 22:41:26 <Hippidy> voted 22:41:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 22:41:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> draw 22:42:54 <Hippidy> mainly because combuster's plan doesn't contain the word "logic" :p 22:42:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> V: don't you have rethinks if the gemini can only be used in groups of 3tl? 22:43:38 <PublicServer> <Combuster> Genesis works properly with staircasing 22:43:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> you can use longer, by connecting groups through 22:44:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000000: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00000000.png 22:44:10 <PublicServer> <Combuster> (4.2khp for TL3) 22:45:27 <PublicServer> *** fmauNeko has left the game (leaving) 22:46:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. doublestack intermodal :p 22:46:40 *** fmauneko has quit IRC 22:47:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf :p 22:47:05 *** Osai has quit IRC 22:47:21 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 22:47:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> check train 5 22:48:20 *** tneo has quit IRC 22:48:46 *** SmatZ- has quit IRC 22:48:48 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 22:48:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> very strainge trainset 22:49:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> uh wtf 22:49:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> check what happens if I revert the train 22:50:00 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 22:50:14 *** V453000 has quit IRC 22:50:52 <PublicServer> <Combuster> pushing trains? O.o 22:51:06 *** Ammller has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Ammller 22:51:14 *** Ammler has quit IRC 22:51:14 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 22:51:17 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Osai 22:51:17 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 22:51:20 *** Webster sets mode: +o tneo 22:51:21 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 22:51:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> didn't know that it was possible to change the wagon order 22:51:41 *** Ammler is now known as Ammller 22:52:02 *** gnemo has joined #openttdcoop 22:52:17 *** planetmaker has joined #openttdcoop 22:52:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o planetmaker 22:53:18 *** XeryusTC has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:19 *** Webster sets mode: +o XeryusTC 22:53:25 <Webster> The third coop bot 22:53:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 22:53:36 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 22:53:36 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:47 *** SmatZ has joined #openttdcoop 22:53:47 *** Webster sets mode: +o SmatZ 22:54:16 *** VVG has quit IRC 22:54:50 *** combuster has quit IRC 22:54:50 *** [com]buster is now known as combuster 22:55:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm.. 22:55:12 <Vitus> @records 22:55:12 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 24 | Trains: 2001 (PSG#186) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 154,900 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 3,075,319 (PSG#101) 22:57:14 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> what is train 1 doing? 22:57:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> nothing I guess 22:57:52 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> I guessed that much :) 22:58:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> its stuck in the jungle :p 22:59:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003A2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/webcam/00003A2D.png 22:59:38 <V453000> avdg: I dont have rethinks since there is written to use engines only, not wagons 22:59:51 <V453000> :) 23:00:02 <PublicServer> <avdg> ... 23:00:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> train 5 wtf 23:00:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> changed the order of the wagons and its doing again strange things while being reverted 23:01:15 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> the max speed drops by 4... wtf 23:01:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> Is that a bug related due the engine isn't reverted? 23:01:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 23:01:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> that too 23:02:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> wtf trainset : 23:02:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 23:02:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe because the cabcontrol 23:02:57 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:03:18 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> or it's just broken 23:04:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> strange bilevel passenger car :p 23:05:37 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> oh nooes rubber plant closed 23:05:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 23:05:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> lets check the cabcontrol with a mail car 23:06:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 23:06:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> seems not compatible :p 23:06:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> while it should be 23:06:52 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> oh well 23:07:37 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> well... that seems to work 23:07:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> cabcontrol seems a disavantage here 23:07:56 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 23:08:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> look, it doens't work 23:08:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> it should 23:08:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> mail car has a ab control 23:08:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe it needs a refit 23:08:52 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 23:10:14 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> is it possible / allowed to change the trainset? 23:10:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> it is possible 23:10:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> but not recommended :p 23:11:02 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> didn't think it would be 23:11:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> I did it with a trainset 23:11:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> the game didn't crash, but there are some strange results 23:12:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno if thats changed now, but they are replaced by coal cars and maglev trains :p 23:12:40 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> oh well, you should have at least another week before the voting is finished :p 23:12:55 <PublicServer> * avdg sells train 5 23:13:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> the maglev is cheaper to use then the rail one 23:13:37 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> "/me"? 23:13:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> check irc :) 23:13:51 <PublicServer> <Combuster> ^ 23:13:52 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> oh 23:13:53 *** Hirundo has quit IRC 23:13:57 <PublicServer> * Hippidy pokes badgers 23:14:06 <PublicServer> <Combuster> MUSHROOM! 23:14:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> try it on irc :p 23:14:13 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 23:14:15 *** Ammler is now known as Ammller 23:14:22 *** Hirundo has joined #openttdcoop 23:14:30 * avdg says hi 23:15:18 *** tneo_ has joined #openttdcoop 23:16:03 *** tneo has quit IRC 23:18:46 *** Intexon has quit IRC 23:20:38 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 23:21:20 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> another rubber plant closed 23:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has joined spectators 23:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:21:49 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 23:21:57 <avdg> gn 23:22:02 <PublicServer> <Hippidy> bye bye 23:22:07 *** avdg has quit IRC 23:30:20 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:33:20 *** VVG has joined #openttdcoop 23:42:17 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:45:28 *** VVG has quit IRC 23:47:15 *** gnemo has quit IRC 23:48:55 *** Vitus has left #openttdcoop 23:58:09 <PublicServer> *** Combuster has left the game (leaving)