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00:28:32 <Xaroth> happy new year people 00:29:24 <Mazur> Happy new year, Xaroth. 00:30:28 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 00:32:02 <avdg> Happy new year 00:53:37 *** Artix has quit IRC 01:00:02 *** Artix has joined #openttdcoop 01:02:05 *** ODM has quit IRC 01:05:56 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 01:06:34 *** Progman has quit IRC 01:07:02 *** benom has quit IRC 01:17:15 *** avdg has left #openttdcoop 01:19:18 *** pugi has quit IRC 01:41:59 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:54:12 *** Artix has quit IRC 02:29:29 *** Intexon has quit IRC 02:29:43 *** hylje has quit IRC 02:36:22 *** greenlion has quit IRC 02:37:45 *** Fuco has quit IRC 03:23:43 *** roboboy has quit IRC 03:24:01 *** roboboy has joined #openttdcoop 04:03:16 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 07:09:23 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 08:35:47 *** CharcoalDioxide has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:25 *** PhoenixII has quit IRC 08:43:30 *** Phoenix_the_II has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Phoenix_the_II 09:46:53 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 09:49:03 *** Artix has joined #openttdcoop 09:56:43 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 09:57:16 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 09:57:36 <Mark> hello 09:57:43 <Mark> happy new year folks :) 09:58:16 <Mark> !dl win64 09:58:16 <PublicServer> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win64.zip 09:58:34 <planetmaker> happy new year to you, too! :-) 09:59:07 <Mark> thank you :) 09:59:46 <Mark> new years eve in sydney is amazing 10:00:35 <planetmaker> I believe so :-) 10:02:25 <CharcoalDioxide> i probably cant get help from here, but i have problems with my new copy of rollercoaster tycoon 2 10:02:45 <Mark> whats wrong 10:02:54 <Mark> (not an expert at all) 10:03:18 <planetmaker> simple solution: de-install. open lid of trash bin, drop. Install OpenTTD :-P 10:03:20 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 10:03:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 10:03:31 <Mark> @op 10:03:38 <CharcoalDioxide> the game installs and loads just fine, but after i try to play it, it crashes to desktop 10:03:52 <CharcoalDioxide> @coopstats 10:03:53 <planetmaker> @op Mark 10:03:53 *** Webster sets mode: +o Mark 10:03:55 <Mark> compatibility? 10:04:03 <Mark> thank you :_ 10:04:05 <Mark> ) 10:04:12 <CharcoalDioxide> got macmini, use bootcamp 10:04:19 <CharcoalDioxide> intel gma 950 10:04:33 <planetmaker> well. complain to manufacturer of all software involved 10:04:42 <planetmaker> after all you paid them all 10:05:17 <Mark> heh 10:05:31 <CharcoalDioxide> well, not much, got chessmaster 10 with the same 10 euro (offer for 2 games with 10 €) 10:09:27 <CharcoalDioxide> wait, i think i could fiddle with wine a bit ( NOT the drink, Wine Is Not an Emulator) 10:09:38 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 10:09:44 <CharcoalDioxide> brb 10:17:47 *** CharcoalDioxide has quit IRC 10:34:06 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 10:38:05 *** perk111 has joined #openttdcoop 10:45:07 *** perk11 has quit IRC 10:51:23 *** perk111 has quit IRC 10:54:09 *** Mark has quit IRC 11:04:01 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 11:12:32 *** greenlion has quit IRC 11:18:00 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 11:18:34 *** Artix has quit IRC 11:20:57 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 11:34:44 *** hylje has joined #openttdcoop 11:34:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o hylje 11:35:04 *** CharcoalDioxide has joined #openttdcoop 11:41:02 *** greenlion has quit IRC 11:57:35 *** greenlion has joined #openttdcoop 12:06:52 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 12:06:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 12:14:25 <CharcoalDioxide> !password 12:14:25 <PublicServer> CharcoalDioxide: troupe 12:15:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:15:43 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide joined the game 12:18:02 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has joined spectators 12:24:51 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 12:24:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 12:31:37 *** `real has joined #openttdcoop 12:31:51 *** `Fuco` has joined #openttdcoop 12:33:25 *** Mx has joined #openttdcoop 12:33:57 *** Mx has joined #openttdcoop 12:34:01 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 12:35:04 <Mx> !help 12:35:04 <PublicServer> Mx: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 12:37:50 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 12:38:45 *** Fuco has quit IRC 12:48:39 <Mx> !password 12:48:39 <PublicServer> Mx: fleshy 13:19:02 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 13:21:25 *** Mx has left #openttdcoop 13:21:28 *** Mx has joined #openttdcoop 13:22:27 <Mx> register 13:22:48 <Mx> Nickserv 13:29:18 <Xaroth> you're doing it wrong 13:29:36 <CharcoalDioxide> @register? 13:29:44 <CharcoalDioxide> !help 13:29:44 <PublicServer> CharcoalDioxide: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 13:29:59 <Xaroth> try /msg nickserv help register 13:30:27 *** Chillosophy has joined #openttdcoop 13:35:58 *** Mx has left #openttdcoop 13:36:07 *** Mx has joined #openttdcoop 13:40:05 *** Mx has quit IRC 13:40:35 *** Yoshi has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:19 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 13:48:20 <mfb-> hi 13:49:41 <Mazur> lo 13:50:27 *** Yoshi has left #openttdcoop 13:51:09 *** Train has joined #openttdcoop 13:51:39 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:51:41 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 13:52:40 *** Intexon has quit IRC 13:54:05 *** Intexon has joined #openttdcoop 13:54:51 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 13:54:54 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 13:54:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 13:55:50 <mfb-> hi 13:57:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> anything left to do? 13:57:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> donno 13:57:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> lets run it 13:57:22 <PublicServer> <avdg> and see what happens 13:57:33 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 13:57:33 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 14:02:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001E0CF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001E0CF.png 14:02:51 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 14:03:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> the exit of drop 4 14:03:15 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh 14:03:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe small prios there 14:03:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> just a splitter with wrong measurements 14:03:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 14:04:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 14:04:07 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 14:04:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> fixed now btw 14:04:20 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 14:04:49 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 14:07:51 <Train> !passwort 14:08:02 <Train> !password 14:08:02 <PublicServer> Train: alases 14:08:22 <PublicServer> *** Mx joined the game 14:08:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> hi 14:08:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 14:09:18 <PublicServer> <avdg> Mx: could you please change your nick so it matches with a nick on irc, thanks 14:12:16 <PublicServer> <Mx> Which command is used for that? 14:12:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> name 14:12:59 <PublicServer> *** Mx has changed his/her name to Train 14:13:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> ty 14:16:38 <PublicServer> *** Train has joined company #1 14:17:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000DF2D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000DF2D.png 14:17:44 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 14:19:46 <PublicServer> <Train> At the sign "FULL trains to drop 01" there is an unused track! Why? 14:20:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> was an old plan maybe 14:20:28 <PublicServer> <Train> delete? 14:20:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 14:20:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> it was the plan to add full trains 14:21:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> and it still may be needed in case we connect a sugermine on that mountain for example 14:21:16 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 14:21:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> we can just add it again then 14:21:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> indeed 14:22:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> lets simplify some more stuff 14:22:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> hehe 14:22:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> poor "why this?" 14:22:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 14:23:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> mixing, and then merging it to 1 line :p 14:23:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, mixing is older than the join to 1 line 14:24:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 14:25:37 *** [alt]buster has joined #openttdcoop 14:26:17 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has joined company #1 14:26:25 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> lo, im back 14:26:28 <PublicServer> <Train> Train 2.089 and 2.090 are "logic" trains, so added to "LOGIC FOR ALL" 14:26:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> wb and a happy new years of logics :) 14:26:39 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 14:26:50 <PublicServer> <avdg> gj train 14:27:01 <PublicServer> <Train> ty 14:27:32 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> trinnington mines is poorly fed (again) 14:27:35 *** thgergo has joined #openttdcoop 14:27:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> moar :) 14:27:56 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> finalizing? 14:28:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, but trains isn't really a true bottleneck in this game 14:28:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> just add the 10... and we are at train limit again 14:29:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> or wait 14:29:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> the split is full with trains 14:29:08 <glevans2> 'moar ning' all 14:29:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> so that's not the problem 14:29:17 <Mazur> Moar ning, glevans2. 14:29:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 14:29:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> moin 14:29:33 <PublicServer> <Train> hello 14:29:50 <glevans2> funny, the year still feels the same... 14:29:51 <glevans2> are you sure it actually changed? 14:30:17 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> yes 14:30:19 <PublicServer> <Train> no :) 14:30:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> can you give me a location where it still is 2010? 14:30:19 *** Combuster has quit IRC 14:30:29 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> ne 14:30:33 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> no* 14:30:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> :( poor 2010 14:31:02 <glevans2> state of Confusion maybe... 14:31:07 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> poor -10. 14:31:14 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 14:31:24 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> has to wait 100 years to come to use again 14:31:46 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> (or, 99?) 14:32:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00014440: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00014440.png 14:32:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, date is a virtual something, you could always create the year 2010 somewhere :p (but standards will ignore you) 14:33:48 <glevans2> avdg, the great thing about standards...there are so many to choose from... 14:33:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 14:34:00 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> i am this close to swapping to windows: |--------------------| (20 tiles) 14:34:39 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 14:34:40 *** [alt]buster has quit IRC 14:35:16 <PublicServer> <Train> Kiribati in pacific started year 2011 at 11:00 "CET", 14:35:24 <PublicServer> <Train> yesterday! 14:35:59 *** Combuster has joined #openttdcoop 14:36:27 <PublicServer> <Train> so the last second of "2010" was 09:59 CET 14:36:35 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> today 14:36:43 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> approximately when i woke up 14:36:50 <PublicServer> <Train> yes me too 14:37:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> supply of trinnington mine is better now 14:37:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> 2 houres after 14:37:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> I was aweken earlier, because my parent went on holiday 14:37:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> aka plane 14:37:54 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> also, my copy of RCT2 works now 14:38:02 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> i used wine and winebottler 14:38:20 <PublicServer> <Train> Did you had firework? 14:38:28 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> we did 14:38:49 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> hows that broken 14:38:55 <PublicServer> <Train> biggest firework at Sydney 14:38:57 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> ah 14:38:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> just look at it 14:39:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> k 14:39:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed the signal gap problem there, too 14:39:59 <PublicServer> <Train> where? 14:40:15 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 14:40:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> :) 14:41:02 <PublicServer> <Train> What's at "Trains to ring 01" 14:41:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> the merge of emptied trains from ring 1 and overflow trains of ring 8 14:41:32 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> joiner? 14:41:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> hehe 14:41:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> prio? 14:42:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats strange about it 14:42:14 <PublicServer> <avdg> just follow the tracks and read the signals 14:42:25 <DayDreamer> !dl win64 14:42:25 <PublicServer> DayDreamer: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win64.zip 14:42:41 *** [com]buster has joined #openttdcoop 14:42:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> and these are disconnected because they are unneeded 14:43:00 <PublicServer> <Train> delete! 14:43:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> nah 14:43:28 <PublicServer> <avdg> because its an other kind of prio construction, its better to leave it this ways 14:43:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> -s 14:43:42 <PublicServer> <Train> ok 14:45:08 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 14:45:21 <DayDreamer> !password 14:45:21 <PublicServer> DayDreamer: possum 14:45:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey daydreamer 14:45:32 <tycoondemon> the winners are here :O 14:45:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 14:45:42 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> lo. 14:45:42 <PublicServer> <avdg> which winners? 14:45:46 <DayDreamer> hi 14:45:46 <tycoondemon> THE 14:45:50 <PublicServer> <Train> hi 14:46:15 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 14:46:30 <PublicServer> <Train> lol, graphic mistake at trinnington mine 14:46:44 <PublicServer> <avdg> bug? 14:46:56 <PublicServer> <Train> do you see it ? 14:47:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001544C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001544C.png 14:47:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 14:47:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 14:47:39 <PublicServer> <avdg> are you using opengfx? 14:47:39 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> What theee? 14:47:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> oh, it doesn't matter here 14:48:03 *** Combuster has quit IRC 14:48:23 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> ah 14:48:29 <PublicServer> <Train> yes there 14:48:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> track bug? 14:48:56 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> i thought the signal was... floating. 14:49:06 *** Hipiidy has joined #openttdcoop 14:49:11 <PublicServer> <Train> little gap between peeces 14:49:45 *** Hipiidy has quit IRC 14:49:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> dangerous for trains! :p 14:49:57 <PublicServer> <Train> Yes 14:50:07 <PublicServer> <Train> and for our logic 14:50:13 <PublicServer> <avdg> its a toyland grf graphic id 1118 14:50:23 <PublicServer> <Train> :) 14:50:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> and related tiles 14:50:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> problem 14:51:24 <PublicServer> <Train> good train... 14:51:38 <PublicServer> <Train> can jump over gaps! 14:51:52 <PublicServer> <Train> only monorail 14:52:20 <PublicServer> <Train> are we at train limit? 14:52:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> nope 14:52:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> limit is 2100 14:52:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> we have 10 trains left 14:52:51 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 14:54:12 *** [com]buster has quit IRC 14:54:13 <PublicServer> <Train> delete Graphic Mistake Area (GMA)? 14:54:19 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> thats it, im switching to windows 14:54:35 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> (also, gonna play chessmaster 10) 14:54:41 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> (possibly) 14:55:05 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has left the game (leaving) 14:55:09 *** CharcoalDioxide has quit IRC 14:56:10 <PublicServer> <Train> " prepared for 3rd line" When does it come? 14:56:21 <PublicServer> <avdg> where? 14:56:40 <PublicServer> <Train> near Drop 03 14:56:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is there 14:57:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> 1. 2. 3. :p 14:57:23 <PublicServer> <avdg> drop 3 has 5 lines btw 14:57:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> the empty lines are a connection which is unused 14:57:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, we can delete it 14:57:50 <PublicServer> <Train> delete? or connect somewhere? 14:57:53 <PublicServer> <Train> ok 14:57:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> ? 14:58:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> overflow? 14:58:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> like this 14:58:49 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah, its unneeded for now 14:59:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> but keep that presignal construction and bridges 14:59:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> I don't want to delete some constructions to rebuild it later 14:59:45 <PublicServer> <Train> yes 15:02:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035B0C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035B0C.png 15:02:35 <PublicServer> <Train> connect last sugar mine ? 15:02:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> where? 15:02:58 <PublicServer> <Train> at sign "no production" 15:03:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> I prefer not to do in this stage of the game 15:03:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> got one, finally 15:03:20 <PublicServer> <Train> what doing else? 15:03:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> fix broken things :p 15:04:04 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 15:04:14 <PublicServer> <Train> I'm new so I can't know where to do what 15:04:20 <PublicServer> * avdg wonders if that ring needs an upgrade 15:04:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> search broken stuff, jams, unneeded things, etc... 15:06:52 <PublicServer> <Train> can you give me an example? 15:08:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is what we are looking for at the moment 15:08:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> Train: you've done already some 'fixes' 15:09:00 <Mazur> Train: We're finalising, i.e. cleaning up and finishing touches, so we do not do any major surgery or additions anymore. Not in this stage. 15:09:30 <PublicServer> <Train> at drop 03 there is that unconnected part! 15:09:49 <PublicServer> <Train> It's only an example, or ? 15:09:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> for extension 15:10:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> and reservation 15:10:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> but we don't need it 15:10:10 <PublicServer> <Train> away?! 15:10:18 <PublicServer> <Train> already done! 15:11:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> wow, this game is still running smooth while I zoom out 15:11:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> only some slow rendering on the max zoom 15:12:05 <PublicServer> <Train> and at minimap 15:12:15 <PublicServer> <Train> at MY minimap 15:12:26 <PublicServer> <avdg> minimap is always with a small delay 15:12:33 <PublicServer> <avdg> afaik 15:12:54 <PublicServer> <Train> so can't look for jam so well 15:13:01 *** roboboy has quit IRC 15:13:05 <PublicServer> <avdg> you can still spot some with the map 15:13:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> you would see a long queue that doesn't move at all 15:13:34 <PublicServer> <Train> yes 15:14:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> train density is the interesting point 15:14:10 <PublicServer> <Train> or the opposit at !here there isn't much traffic 15:14:25 <PublicServer> <Train> delet one track? 15:14:27 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (connection lost) 15:14:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> a jammed line is full, moving trains always have gaps in between 15:14:45 <avdg> nah 15:15:06 <avdg> the ml is meant for big traffic 15:15:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> it's the overflow 15:15:21 <avdg> and we can't afford any jam on the empties 15:15:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> so the two lines can hold some trains if necessary 15:16:09 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 15:16:13 <PublicServer> <Train> jam at !here2 15:16:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> that's not a jam 15:16:34 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats a sl 15:16:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> sidelines need to be filled 15:16:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> *needs 15:17:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000276FC: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000276FC.png 15:17:26 <PublicServer> <Train> but it looked like a jam 90 seconds before 15:17:36 <PublicServer> <avdg> look from where the traffic comes from 15:17:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, many slow-moving trains 15:17:40 <PublicServer> <avdg> and where it goes 15:17:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> but that is good 15:17:58 <PublicServer> <avdg> a single line wasn't an option anymore on that part of the track 15:19:13 <PublicServer> <Train> at !here is an sideline too, or? 15:19:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> just look where it ends 15:19:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> yes 15:19:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> in a station 15:21:07 <PublicServer> <Train> at <-bridge for logic here -> there is no bridge! 15:21:17 <PublicServer> <Train> Can I try to fix? 15:21:32 <PublicServer> <Train> I 15:21:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> sry 15:21:47 <PublicServer> <Train> you are too fast! 15:21:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> was something I wanted to do when the game was paused 15:21:55 <Mazur> Because we don't use specific orders in this game, we fill each SL with enough trains to replace the filled ones quick enough when a station gets unoccupied after filling. 15:22:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> to remove that ugly tunnel structure 15:24:07 <PublicServer> <Train> "got too many problems" what's there? 15:24:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> produced jams all the time 15:24:43 <PublicServer> <Train> what should it do? 15:24:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> not connecting it? :) 15:25:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> let's test again 15:25:43 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 15:25:53 <PublicServer> <Train> works!? 15:25:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> what was the problem actually? 15:25:57 <PublicServer> <Train> jam... 15:26:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains wanted to go to the SL even if it was filled 15:26:19 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 15:26:23 <PublicServer> <Train> fixed! 15:26:27 <PublicServer> <avdg> maybe because there are 2 red signals 15:26:41 <PublicServer> <Train> where? 15:26:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> but it should be green 15:26:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> => NOT 15:27:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe we had jams behind the split 15:27:06 <PublicServer> <Train> put signs please 15:27:12 <PublicServer> <avdg> yes, but if trains are following a bit too close, you can get these situation 15:27:28 <PublicServer> <Train> test! 15:27:30 <PublicServer> <avdg> because the relative big signalgap in front 15:27:55 <PublicServer> <avdg> hmm 15:27:59 <PublicServer> <avdg> there is the problem 15:28:21 <PublicServer> <Train> where? -->sign? 15:28:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> if the join jams, you could have issues at the splitter 15:29:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, it's a bad join 15:29:37 <PublicServer> <avdg> that joiner got a lot of fixes, hmm 15:31:06 <PublicServer> <avdg> signals direct after a join are always crucial ;-) 15:32:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002E178: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002E178.png 15:32:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats up at !right? 15:32:24 <PublicServer> <Train> I will fix those !right-logic bridges 15:32:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 15:32:42 <PublicServer> <Train> ok? 15:32:48 <PublicServer> <avdg> whats wrong? 15:32:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> nothing to fix there? 15:32:53 <PublicServer> <Train> tunnel is better ! 15:33:01 <PublicServer> <avdg> not always 15:33:08 <PublicServer> <avdg> besides, there is already a tunnel 15:33:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, the not can be rotated 15:33:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> or mirrored 15:33:31 <PublicServer> <avdg> you can't cross tunnels, unless you cheat 15:33:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> easier connection then 15:33:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> :p 15:34:23 <PublicServer> <Train> watch !from here and !to here 15:34:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 15:34:45 <PublicServer> <Train> ok? 15:34:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> well that's possible 15:35:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> I won't risk it :p 15:35:09 <PublicServer> <Train> risk? 15:35:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> I'll turn the NOT around 15:35:35 <PublicServer> <avdg> unless you want to keep the ml a bit more on the left 15:35:47 <PublicServer> <avdg> do, that not a big deal 15:36:12 *** perk11 has quit IRC 15:36:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 15:37:11 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol 15:39:21 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 15:40:32 <PublicServer> <avdg> lol? 15:40:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> .. 15:40:41 <PublicServer> <Train> what? 15:40:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> we tried to build the same signal 15:40:57 <PublicServer> <Train> Where? 15:41:03 <PublicServer> <avdg> conflict situation :p 15:41:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> doesn't really matter ;-) 15:41:12 <PublicServer> <Train> ok# 15:41:20 <PublicServer> <Train> -# 15:43:14 <PublicServer> <Train> "is connected here" What's up here? 15:43:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> second sign there 15:43:56 <tycoondemon> !dl win64 15:43:56 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win64.zip 15:44:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> for the capacity, it doesn't matter 15:44:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> but it's useless to have many trains waiting there 15:44:54 <PublicServer> <avdg> true 15:45:08 <tycoondemon> !password 15:45:08 <PublicServer> tycoondemon: vipers 15:45:26 <PublicServer> *** tycoondemon joined the game 15:45:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> but personally, I prefer to fill the missing spaces as quickly as possible 15:45:32 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> still this map :D 15:45:38 <PublicServer> <avdg> to avoid underrated stations 15:45:41 <PublicServer> <avdg> yeah 15:45:45 <PublicServer> <avdg> it suprises me too 15:45:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> they are filled as quick as possible 15:46:01 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> I have never seen a such long lasting map in openttdcoop :O 15:46:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> as we (nearly) always have trains waiting there 15:46:17 <PublicServer> <avdg> my first game was longer, imo 15:46:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> <- afk 15:46:30 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 15:46:38 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> nice 2000 trains :O 15:46:46 <PublicServer> <avdg> many days of inactivity and a lot of problems with jams on junctions and lines 15:46:56 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> yes indeed 15:46:58 <PublicServer> <Train> when starts the next map? 15:47:06 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> a challenging time and problem 15:47:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FF74: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FF74.png 15:47:16 <PublicServer> <avdg> when this one gets finished and the next map is ready to play with 15:47:47 <PublicServer> <Train> what's "finished" in this case? 15:47:57 <PublicServer> <avdg> well, this game is relatively free of issues (not that there aren't issues, but its safe to end this game at any time imo) 15:48:20 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 15:48:31 <PublicServer> <Train> what's the next map? 15:48:53 <PublicServer> <avdg> thats santa's suprise ;-) 15:49:03 <V453000> hello everyone 15:49:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey v 15:49:21 <PublicServer> <Train> hello 15:49:22 <Mazur> Hi, V, happy new year. 15:49:33 <V453000> you too :) 15:49:50 <Mazur> Tanks. :-) 15:50:33 <Mazur> People have been cleaning up PSG 199. 15:50:40 *** benom has quit IRC 15:50:47 <V453000> thats good 15:50:51 <V453000> so we can start 200 15:50:56 <V453000> !password 15:50:56 <PublicServer> V453000: frosty 15:51:01 <PublicServer> <Train> yes! 15:51:09 <PublicServer> <avdg> sounds good 15:51:13 <V453000> !dl win32 15:51:13 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win32.zip 15:51:18 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 15:51:23 <V453000> when else than 1.1. :) 15:51:29 <PublicServer> <avdg> more issues? 15:51:31 <Mazur> Exactly. 15:51:45 <PublicServer> <Train> ? 15:52:07 <PublicServer> <avdg> if everybody agrees, I will declare this game as done 15:52:21 <PublicServer> <Train> DONE! 15:52:47 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined spectators 15:53:03 <PublicServer> *** Train has joined spectators 15:53:03 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:53:04 <V453000> !password 15:53:04 <PublicServer> V453000: frosty 15:53:21 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:53:21 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:53:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 15:53:22 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:53:25 <PublicServer> <avdg> hey 15:53:28 <PublicServer> *** avdg has joined company #1 15:54:30 <PublicServer> *** Train has joined company #1 15:54:43 <PublicServer> <Train> Is it done or not? 15:54:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> it should, just searching around 15:56:50 *** perk11 has quit IRC 15:57:44 *** tycoondemon has quit IRC 15:58:10 <PublicServer> <avdg> I'm done with it 15:58:24 <PublicServer> <avdg> and don't say that this game isn't done if I'm back ;-) 15:58:34 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 15:58:54 <PublicServer> <Train> I think it's done now 16:02:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005034: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005034.png 16:03:40 *** benom has quit IRC 16:07:51 <PublicServer> <Train> What's up now? 16:15:46 <PublicServer> <tycoondemon> kaboooom 16:16:10 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:17 <PublicServer> <Train> where 16:17:36 *** Train has left #openttdcoop 16:18:36 *** Train has joined #openttdcoop 16:18:38 *** Mitcian has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:09 <V453000> !save 16:19:09 <PublicServer> Saving game... 16:19:15 <V453000> !transfer 199 game.sav 16:19:21 <PublicServer> V453000: PublicServerGame_199_Final.sav 16:19:21 <PublicServer> V453000: Transfer done. (/home/openttd/svn-publicserver/autopilot/save/game.sav->http://www.openttdcoop.org//files/PublicServer_archive/PublicServerGame_199_Final.sav) 16:19:27 <V453000> !content 16:19:28 <PublicServer> V453000: Connection established 16:19:28 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 16:19:28 <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 16:19:30 *** V453000 has left #openttdcoop 16:19:30 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 16:19:30 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 16:19:32 <V453000> !content 16:19:34 <PublicServer> V453000: Expect timeout triggered! 16:19:34 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 20 file(s) (13370212 bytes) 16:19:34 <PublicServer> V453000: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 16:20:20 <V453000> !gamenr 16:20:20 <PublicServer> V453000: This is game number: 199 16:20:30 <V453000> !gamenr 200 16:20:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has set gamenr to 200 (next !restart) 16:20:34 <V453000> !restart 16:20:34 <PublicServer> V453000: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 16:20:38 <V453000> there we go 16:20:40 <V453000> back in a minute 16:21:02 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 16:21:02 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r21659. 16:21:07 <PublicServer> Server has exited 16:21:08 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 16:21:28 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 16:21:28 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 16:21:28 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 16:21:28 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 16:21:28 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21659) | STAGE: Finalizing | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 16:21:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007D1F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007D1F.png 16:21:51 <Train> !password 16:21:51 <PublicServer> Train: penned 16:22:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:22:07 <PublicServer> *** Mx joined the game 16:22:19 <PublicServer> *** Mx has joined company #1 16:22:27 <PublicServer> *** Mx has joined spectators 16:22:45 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:22:47 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:23:13 <PublicServer> *** Mx has left the game (leaving) 16:24:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> alrighy 16:24:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> say goodbye :P 16:24:33 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:24:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:24:43 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:24:49 <V453000> right, not this way :D 16:28:18 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:28:18 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 16:28:23 <V453000> Ammler: around please? I need to know which newgrf isnt present please :( 16:28:57 <mfb-> a lot of newGRF-things there 16:29:14 <Mazur> Apparently I have all that are needed. 16:30:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well this is the map for game about 155 16:30:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the server failed to load my savegame :p 16:31:03 <Mazur> Ah, 16:31:14 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:31:19 <V453000> password 16:31:24 <V453000> !password 16:31:24 <PublicServer> V453000: penned 16:31:42 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:31:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:31:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmff 16:34:29 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:34:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:34:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:35:08 <Mazur> So ther server is missing GRFs? 16:35:19 <V453000> yes, some 16:35:27 <Mazur> And it doesn't say which? 16:35:33 <V453000> but I cannot see the error message, only shell access admins can 16:35:34 <Mazur> That is tricky. 16:36:28 <Mazur> Well, if I was a hacker, I could try to hack in, but I'm not, so I can't. 16:37:16 <Mazur> Never was geek enough to go that road. 16:37:47 <V453000> well, I will just have to re-check all of the newgrf availability on our pack or bananas 16:42:25 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:42:31 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:42:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:43:10 *** Artix has joined #openttdcoop 16:43:11 <mfb-> hmm... how do I get these newgrf, openttd is unable to find them and grfcrawler can't find the numbers, too 16:44:18 <V453000> our pack should have all 16:44:20 <V453000> or bananas 16:44:43 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:45:03 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:45:03 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:45:14 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 16:45:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 16:46:15 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:46:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:46:31 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:48:05 <mfb-> found it, thanks 16:49:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:50:55 <mfb-> !password 16:50:55 <PublicServer> mfb-: penned 16:51:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:51:08 <PublicServer> *** Train joined the game 16:51:10 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 16:51:10 <Ammler> V453000: hello :-) 16:51:21 <PublicServer> <Train> hello back 16:51:22 <V453000> hi :) happy new year 16:51:35 <Ammler> indeed, also to you, nice you are already awake :-) 16:51:36 <V453000> im having some severe problems with loading the game ... but I think newGRFs are fine 16:51:48 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 16:51:50 <Ammler> did you check the logs? 16:51:54 <V453000> the log also doesnt say anything 16:51:54 <DayDreamer> i wish you happy new beer :P 16:51:57 <V453000> just "failed to load" 16:51:59 *** benom has quit IRC 16:52:07 <Ammler> which game is it? 16:52:18 <PublicServer> <Train> I found all GRF 16:52:41 <planetmaker> !content 16:52:43 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Expect timeout triggered! 16:52:43 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes) 16:52:43 <PublicServer> planetmaker: (you need to !restart to have the new content loaded) 16:53:25 <V453000> pm: I did that :| 16:53:35 <^Spike^> !rcon debug 16:53:35 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ERROR: command not found 16:53:39 <^Spike^> !rcon list_debug 16:53:39 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: ERROR: command not found 16:53:43 <^Spike^> bleh 16:53:44 <V453000> !rcon debug_level 16:53:44 <PublicServer> V453000: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 16:53:45 <Ammler> !rcon debug_level 16:53:45 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 16:53:48 <Ammler> :-P 16:53:49 <^Spike^> ...... 16:53:57 <Ammler> !rcon debug_level grf=1 16:53:59 <^Spike^> what a...... not logical command for debugging 16:54:05 <V453000> load again? 16:54:07 <Ammler> yes 16:54:12 <^Spike^> it's like calling the save function save_game_name name 16:54:14 <V453000> !rcon load 6 16:54:19 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:54:27 <Ammler> [2011-01-01 17:54:14] dbg: [grf] NewGRF 41501202 (heqs_heavy_equipment_set-0.9.5\heqs.grf) not found; checksum EA844EF3C0427A1ABD520A7861979AA9. Compatibility mode on 16:54:30 <Train> !password 16:54:30 <PublicServer> Train: halest 16:54:35 <^Spike^> if that is all 16:54:36 <V453000> heqs? :O 16:54:38 <^Spike^> it's compatible 16:54:42 <^Spike^> it says so Ammler :) 16:54:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:54:45 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 16:54:55 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:54:56 <PublicServer> *** Train joined the game 16:55:01 <PublicServer> *** Train has left the game (leaving) 16:55:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 16:55:44 <PublicServer> *** Train joined the game 16:56:05 <^Spike^> else the compatible line doesn't mean much? ;) 16:56:14 <Ammler> ^Spike^: afaik, compatible mode doesn't work on mp 16:56:15 <PublicServer> <Train> Good evening, bye 16:56:19 <PublicServer> *** Train has left the game (leaving) 16:56:36 <^Spike^> ... 16:56:40 <Ammler> but you might be indeed right, but what else 16:56:54 <^Spike^> nothing.. look @ log you see nothing else.. :/ 16:57:19 <V453000> hmm, but we even tested heqs on stable 16:57:59 <Ammler> dbg: [grf] [ottdc_grfpack/7_stations/newstats/newstatsw.grf:266] CreateGroupFromGroupID(0x05:0x00): Sprite set 5 invalid, max 5 16:58:02 <Mazur> Maybe the stable door was open and it fled in panic over all the fireworks. 16:58:21 <^Spike^> isn't that from the random game it creates Ammler 16:58:22 <Ammler> planetmaker: any new newgrf sanity checks recently? 16:58:33 <planetmaker> no 16:58:37 <^Spike^> cause at some point it says game loaded but failed and loads a diff said of grfs 16:58:43 <^Spike^> so then it could only be heqs 16:58:48 <^Spike^> only 1 way to find out? 16:58:57 <^Spike^> or well 2 ways 16:59:14 <V453000> shall I load it without heqs? 16:59:15 <Ammler> well, I would fix the heqs 16:59:26 <Ammler> V453000: or with recent heqs 16:59:27 <^Spike^> thnx for volunteering Ammler ;) 17:00:15 <Ammler> V453000: also did you rescan the newgrfs after !content? 17:00:24 <Ammler> !rcon rescan 17:00:24 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 17:00:28 <Ammler> !rcon rescan_newgrfs 17:00:28 <PublicServer> Ammler: ERROR: command not found 17:00:30 <Ammler> !rcon rescan_newgrf 17:00:31 <PublicServer> Ammler: dbg: [grf] Scanning for NewGRFs 17:00:31 <PublicServer> Ammler: dbg: [grf] Scan complete, found 466 files 17:00:40 <V453000> yea, I did 17:00:43 <Ammler> ah ok 17:00:50 <V453000> wait, I will load it again with proper heqs 17:01:26 *** Train has quit IRC 17:02:09 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:02:13 <^Spike^> stop pressing CTRL+A or +B Ammler! ;) 17:02:20 <V453000> !password 17:02:20 <PublicServer> V453000: halest 17:02:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:02:42 <Ammler> ^Spike^: I have no clue what that would mean 17:02:42 <V453000> SUCCESS 17:02:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 17:02:46 <V453000> :) 17:02:54 <V453000> @stage Planning 17:02:54 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21659) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 17:02:56 <^Spike^> someone was on the screen doing something :) 17:02:59 <V453000> !tweet PSG 200 !!! 17:03:00 <PublicServer> V453000: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 17:03:14 <Ammler> V453000: did updating heqs help? 17:03:20 <V453000> yes 17:03:45 <Ammler> !tweet doesn't work anymore 17:03:46 <PublicServer> Ammler: Tweet sent: http://twitter.com/openttdcoop 17:03:52 <V453000> oh well 17:03:59 <Ammler> write a blog :-P 17:04:12 <V453000> about .. :D 17:04:17 <mfb-> wtf, more newgrfs 17:04:18 <V453000> starting the game? not rly :) 17:04:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:04:47 <Ammler> a view back to last year and wishes to the new year etc... 17:04:47 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 17:05:03 <Ammler> and about the idea of game 200 :-) 17:05:11 <V453000> might do that 17:05:19 <V453000> good idea 17:05:27 <Ammler> 2 sentences are enough :-P 17:05:32 <Ammler> and a nice image 17:05:33 <V453000> that long? :O 17:05:38 <V453000> image ... hmm 17:05:57 <V453000> I will do something :P 17:06:16 <planetmaker> just make a screeny from the game. Maybe minimap overview or so 17:06:58 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 17:07:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No MM? 17:08:19 <DayDreamer> !password 17:08:19 <PublicServer> DayDreamer: innate 17:08:33 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 17:09:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ah, 200 ,illion startup money. 17:10:43 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 17:10:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 17:10:51 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 17:32:02 *** Mitcian has quit IRC 17:33:47 *** Artix has quit IRC 17:47:15 <Ammler> !playercount 17:47:15 <PublicServer> Ammler: Number of players: 2 (2 spectators) 17:47:19 <Ammler> !restart 17:47:19 <PublicServer> Ammler: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute! 17:47:24 <Ammler> !date 17:47:24 <PublicServer> Ammler: 23 Jul 1925 17:48:01 <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely 17:48:02 <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r21659. 17:48:06 <PublicServer> Server has exited 17:48:07 *** PublicServer has quit IRC 17:48:19 *** PublicServer has joined #openttdcoop 17:48:19 <PublicServer> Autopilot engaged 17:48:19 <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '#openttdcoop - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)' 17:48:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v PublicServer 17:48:19 *** Webster changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG200 (r21659) | STAGE: Planning | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | English only" 17:48:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E35E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E35E.png 17:48:53 <Ammler> !date 17:48:53 <PublicServer> Ammler: 23 Jul 1925 17:49:16 <Ammler> !rcon debug_level 17:49:16 <PublicServer> Ammler: Current debug-level: 'ai=0, driver=0, grf=0, map=0, misc=0, net=0, sprite=0, oldloader=0, npf=0, yapf=0, freetype=0, sl=0, gamelog=0, desync=0, console=0' 17:55:33 *** HalfBit has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:45 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:01:46 <PublicServer> *** Intexon joined the game 18:03:07 *** CharcoalDioxide has joined #openttdcoop 18:03:10 <CharcoalDioxide> yey, PSG 200 !! 18:03:14 <CharcoalDioxide> !password 18:03:14 <PublicServer> CharcoalDioxide: garter 18:03:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:03:45 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide joined the game 18:04:07 *** slaca has joined #openttdcoop 18:04:18 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:04:21 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 18:04:23 <slaca> !dl win32 18:04:23 <PublicServer> slaca: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win32.zip 18:04:28 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has joined spectators 18:05:52 <slaca> !password 18:05:52 <PublicServer> slaca: garter 18:06:15 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:06:16 <PublicServer> <Player> hi 18:06:28 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> please take the nick you use in the channel 18:06:36 <PublicServer> <Player> name slaca 18:06:44 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> console 18:06:50 <PublicServer> *** Player has changed his/her name to slaca 18:10:23 <PublicServer> *** slaca has left the game (leaving) 18:11:06 *** slaca has quit IRC 18:12:56 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> hm, both DBset and UKRS (and Tropic Refurbishment?) 18:28:09 <V453000> !password 18:28:09 <PublicServer> V453000: bosoms 18:28:22 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:28:23 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:28:27 <V453000> !auto 18:28:28 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 18:28:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:28:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> he 18:28:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 18:29:03 <Hippidy> !password 18:29:03 <PublicServer> Hippidy: bosoms 18:29:05 <Hippidy> lolz 18:33:54 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has joined company #1 18:34:03 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has joined spectators 18:39:45 <mfb-> multiTL and logic would be a nice combination - sort trains by length ;) 18:40:01 <V453000> no point 18:47:23 <DayDreamer> !password 18:47:23 <PublicServer> DayDreamer: hashes 18:47:35 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:47:37 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer joined the game 18:48:01 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> oh, you cheated for da money? 18:53:38 *** Vinnie_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:53:40 <Vinnie_> !password 18:53:40 <PublicServer> Vinnie_: creepy 18:53:50 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:53:52 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:53:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hello 18:53:59 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> lo 18:54:57 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> im not sure if ice and SBahn should be positioned that way 18:58:26 *** benom has joined #openttdcoop 19:03:59 <V453000> how then 19:07:33 <PublicServer> <CharcoalDioxide> not sure about that 19:18:53 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 19:18:56 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 19:24:04 <Vinnie_> @quickstart 19:24:06 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 19:27:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe, it is correct 19:28:07 <V453000> and please next time, tell us HOW to do it better, not that something is wrong 19:36:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> guys are you talking to eachother on an IRC channel. Can someone tell me that channel if it is so so i can listen how you guys work? 19:39:17 <hylje> you're on that channel 19:41:26 <planetmaker> the channel of the stable / Welcome server is #openttdcoop.stable 19:44:33 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:50:25 *** benom has quit IRC 19:51:09 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 19:56:36 *** Vinnie_ has quit IRC 20:07:44 *** greenlion_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:07:57 *** Vinnie_ has joined #openttdcoop 20:08:31 *** Vinnie_ has quit IRC 20:10:18 <PublicServer> *** CharcoalDioxide has left the game (leaving) 20:14:05 *** greenlion has quit IRC 20:25:25 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:04 *** mrruben5 has quit IRC 20:28:42 <Mazur> Vinnie: #openttdcoop is coupled with the Public Server, #openttdcoop.stable is coupled with the Stable server. 20:28:49 <Mazur> Oh, gone. 20:29:15 *** CharcoalDioxide has quit IRC 20:29:42 <Vinnie> ty Mazur 20:29:47 <Vinnie> im here 20:31:14 <Mazur> Odd, since I noticed but your last Quit, and not a rejoin, oh, extra underscore, never mind me. 20:31:55 *** mrruben5 has joined #openttdcoop 20:32:18 *** mrruben5 has left #openttdcoop 20:37:22 <Hippidy> !dl win32 20:37:22 <PublicServer> Hippidy: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win32.zip 20:37:41 <Hippidy> !password 20:37:41 <PublicServer> Hippidy: gummed 20:38:59 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:38:59 <PublicServer> *** hippidy joined the game 20:40:59 <PublicServer> *** hippidy has left the game (leaving) 20:48:42 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 20:48:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 21:03:39 <Vinnie> there is no talk about new PSG or is my irc client broken? 21:04:36 <V453000> everybody drunk and gone 21:04:49 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop 21:04:53 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Fuco 21:05:23 <planetmaker> your client is ok. And we all wait for V to startup the new game. 21:05:24 <mfb-> I'm wondering how we can build something like one large hub on a small island 21:05:33 <V453000> pm: I did 21:05:41 <planetmaker> oh, well. :-) 21:05:50 <V453000> :P 21:05:55 <planetmaker> I didn't say anything, did I? ;-) 21:06:03 <V453000> what do you mean? :P 21:06:08 <KenjiE20> nothing does apathy like coop milestones :p 21:06:16 <planetmaker> happy new year Miss Sophie, also ;-) 21:06:38 <V453000> Miss Sophie? 21:07:12 <V453000> !password 21:07:12 <PublicServer> V453000: spoons 21:07:19 <planetmaker> Miss vasek 21:07:37 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:07:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:07:47 <V453000> oohh, thx :D you too :P 21:10:27 *** Hippidy has quit IRC 21:11:50 *** `Fuco` has quit IRC 21:17:23 <V453000> !unpause 21:17:23 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 21:17:23 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:18:30 <V453000> !auto 21:18:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has enabled autopause mode. 21:18:31 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:18:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000181C0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000181C0.png 21:33:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: feel free to join the company at any time :) at least we could set up some aircraft for MM 21:33:21 *** Hippidy has joined #openttdcoop 21:37:23 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:38:53 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:38:55 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 21:39:41 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 21:39:51 <KenjiE20> an Mark 21:40:00 <Mark> gday 21:40:05 <V453000> yeeey hi 21:40:06 <KenjiE20> Happy New Year 21:40:06 <Mark> happy new year :) 21:40:10 <Mazur> g'day. 21:40:11 <V453000> Happy New Year 21:40:41 <V453000> already 2nd Jan morning in Australia eh 21:40:47 <Mazur> Same to you, Mark. 21:41:09 <Mark> V453000: yeah it is 21:41:19 <V453000> :) 21:41:31 <Mazur> Well, you can't have everything. 21:41:34 <Mazur> Unless you do. 21:41:43 <V453000> nice to see you in some "human" time for us Europeans :) 21:41:49 <Mark> hehe 21:41:52 <Mark> bit early here 21:42:02 <Mark> im still in bed 21:42:08 <KenjiE20> heh 21:42:08 <Mark> this place actually has free internet 21:42:29 <V453000> Sydney? 21:42:34 <Mazur> Sheila? 21:42:34 <Mark> yepyep 21:42:40 <V453000> arr 21:42:50 <Mark> new years eve was crazy 21:43:04 <Mazur> Lots of barbied shrimp? 21:43:14 <Mark> :P 21:43:31 <Mark> throw another snag on the barbie mate 21:44:01 <Mazur> I still have oliebollen en appelbeignets. 21:44:07 <Mark> hehe 21:44:12 <Mark> i want oliebollen 21:44:20 <Mazur> Here, catch. 21:44:30 <V453000> does that mean shitfaced? :D 21:44:32 <Mark> :P 21:44:37 <Mark> no 21:44:45 <Mark> they're like deep fried balls of dough 21:44:48 <V453000> oh right :D 21:44:49 <Mark> dutch thing :P 21:45:05 <Mazur> With not raisins, but.... 21:45:08 <V453000> not much beer out there I guess 21:45:19 <Mark> out where? 21:45:25 <Mark> theres plenty here 21:45:28 <Mark> or rather, was 21:45:29 <Mazur> Here, too. 21:45:31 <V453000> :D was 21:46:00 <Mark> christmas was weird 21:46:03 <Mazur> Around new years there is more beer than water in the Netherlands. 21:46:10 <SmatZ> beeeer 21:46:14 <Mark> :D 21:46:24 <SmatZ> hello Mark! 21:46:28 <SmatZ> how are you doing? 21:46:30 <Mark> gday mate :) 21:46:31 <Mazur> Hij en ik nemen elke keer een nieuwe. 21:46:36 <Mark> happy new year 21:46:43 <Mazur> And several other brands. 21:46:46 <Mark> im good, yourself? 21:46:55 <SmatZ> happy new year Mark! :) 21:46:58 <SmatZ> quite fine :) 21:47:05 <Mazur> V: I'm in, if you want us to set up a MM. 21:47:15 <Mark> ooooh MM 21:47:21 <SmatZ> :) 21:47:38 <V453000> well, feel free to set up a few planes :p 21:47:41 <V453000> time for that 21:47:51 <V453000> !password 21:47:51 <PublicServer> V453000: pierce 21:47:58 <Mazur> V cheated 200.000.000 in hte scenrario creation. 21:48:09 <Mark> where the hell are my earphones 21:48:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:48:11 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:48:14 <Mark> you should see this place 21:48:14 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:48:18 <Mark> its such a mess 21:48:24 <V453000> :D 21:48:44 <V453000> I guess nobody has a clean room on 1st/2nd January :D 21:49:00 <Mark> definetly not in a backpackers hostel 21:49:10 <KenjiE20> I like how Mark is more interested by MM than 200 :p 21:49:18 <Mark> that goes year round though 21:49:25 <Mark> WOOHOOO GAME 200 21:49:32 <KenjiE20> lol 21:49:46 <V453000> :) 21:50:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1 airport :) 21:50:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> has begun 21:51:36 <Mark> !password 21:51:37 <PublicServer> Mark: tosses 21:51:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Having trouble locating a good spot for the northern airport without TF. 21:52:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> near Drontfield? 21:52:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> or Wrinningbury, plenty options 21:52:38 <Mark> what the 21:52:44 <Mark> why cant i connect 21:52:49 <Mark> connection must be too slow 21:52:56 <V453000> :Z 21:52:58 <Mark> it cancels halfway through downloading the map 21:53:31 <mfb-> !password 21:53:31 <PublicServer> mfb-: tosses 21:53:37 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 21:53:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> there we go 21:53:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome :) 21:53:47 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 21:53:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Done. 21:53:54 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined company #1 21:54:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> wooha 21:54:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Airship or Farman? 21:54:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> farman 21:54:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> actually 21:54:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> airships are better 21:55:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> airships are almost as fat 21:55:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> and fun :D 21:55:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> fast* 21:55:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 21:55:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> and much fatter :P 21:55:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah :P 21:55:47 *** greenlion_ has quit IRC 21:56:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> wheres the chaos island 21:56:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> i want to build something :P 21:56:35 <KenjiE20> says the man who used to insta-"chaos is banned" :p 21:56:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> nice plan though 21:56:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> this should be cool 21:56:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks :) 21:57:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 6 pass a month :( 21:57:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> is that mm 21:57:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 21:57:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> we hardly need mm to be fair 21:57:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> a lot of it here is kinda improvised ... shouldnt be chaos tho :) 21:57:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 21:57:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, for sure, but you know ... better have some :) 21:58:04 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 21:58:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> someone might accidently nuke an ocean 21:59:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> MM done. 21:59:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how do you gys build? small and working then expand or immediatly big. 22:00:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> is this a different vinnie? 22:00:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I think new Vinnie 22:00:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know there was one before me 22:00:38 <Mazur> Usually: First main line and main stations, with all the hubs, then SLs as needed and primary stations. 22:00:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> improved new or new new? 22:01:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark: new 22:01:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> good 22:01:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> completely different 22:01:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> played game as long as i remember but following openttdcoop for 6 months now 22:01:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> cool 22:01:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looking at blog :) 22:01:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> welcome to the club then :) 22:01:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and welcome server 22:02:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty 22:03:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C770: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C770.png 22:03:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> feeder<->boost-connection via HUB or via SRNW-island? 22:05:05 <V453000> feeder and srnw connect together, probably on srnw island, and then go together to boost 22:05:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> i screwed up 22:05:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> k 22:05:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark: no way 22:05:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> half of my teleport doesnt accept pax 22:05:53 <PublicServer> <Mark> awesome 22:05:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 22:05:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> failz 22:06:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> and theres no town within reach 22:06:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> build HQ 22:06:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> probably the only spot on the map without town within walking reach 22:06:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> i did, its not big enough 22:06:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> but well that wont produce much pax 22:06:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 22:06:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> only 1/8 a square 22:06:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 22:08:29 *** greenlion_ has joined #openttdcoop 22:09:02 <PublicServer> <Mark> these towns are too small anyway 22:09:53 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 22:10:03 <PublicServer> <Mark> should all these islands be connected somehow? 22:10:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> only some 22:10:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> these around the HUB island 22:10:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> sbahn can feed ice obivously 22:10:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> ICE is more like TGV here I guess 22:10:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is an ICE station on Sbahn island 22:11:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh 22:11:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> and TGV stations on each ICE island 22:11:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is wrongly named probably 22:11:20 <PublicServer> <Mark> what are we boosting? 22:11:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> factory? 22:11:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> most likely 22:11:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> everything which produces goods? 22:11:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is far for refinery, sawmill could be acceptable too 22:11:48 <PublicServer> <Mark> nah, boost means one industry 22:11:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok 22:11:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> k 22:12:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> that was to mfb 22:12:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> then factory or sawmill 22:12:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> we can feed it with steel, too 22:12:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah id say factory 22:12:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> from where 22:12:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> from feeder and SRNW island 22:12:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> +from boost island of course 22:12:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, but where goes the steel from 22:12:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> could make a steel mill on the other side of boost isl 22:12:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> produce it on boost 22:12:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea 22:13:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets make a steel mill on boost island, and deliver GR/LV from feeder/srnw 22:13:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> GR LV is kinda reminding of psg 121 22:13:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> :D 22:13:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have some nice mines on boost 22:13:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> 121 was epic 22:13:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> mines can die 22:14:12 <PublicServer> <Mark> #100 seems like yesterday 22:14:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> to you :P 22:14:27 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah 22:14:37 <PublicServer> <Mark> although ive been pretty much gone for almost a year now 22:15:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> SML isl has a shitload of farms 22:15:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> 11/12 months? 22:15:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> 10/11 22:15:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah i lef on 21/01/2010 22:15:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> I imagined the SML island to have at least 2 MSHs, and some simple oneway SML hubs 22:15:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah we could make a sml ring on the very edge of the island 22:16:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least 2 to never reach more than 2 lines of each MS 22:16:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> 1way-ring maybe? 22:16:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> exactly 22:16:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: 1way for sure 22:17:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> TL 3 is reasonably good I think 22:18:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 lines, why not 22:18:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> cool 22:18:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> how high do we want TL on free TL island? 22:18:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> (the max) 22:18:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6? 5? 22:18:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009B02: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009B02.png 22:18:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> 12? 22:18:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 22:18:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 22:18:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> well why not 22:19:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the stations would be very large :( 22:19:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> and curves would be very wide 22:19:31 <PublicServer> <Mark> we should do a teleport island 22:19:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> well we could make some slow trains 22:19:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> for lower TL 22:19:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the stations are bad 22:19:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel f 22:20:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 22:20:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> free to take some unclaimed island and make it a teleport island 22:20:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess that does not need much space 22:20:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> "teleport island"? 22:20:44 <PublicServer> <Mark> i love teleports 22:20:49 <PublicServer> <Mark> ill build one somewhere 22:20:51 <PublicServer> <Mark> second try 22:21:09 <PublicServer> <Mark> can i do all the farms on sml island? 22:21:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> thatd be an epic teleport 22:21:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 22:21:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 22:21:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be kinda pointless I thnk 22:21:45 <PublicServer> <Mark> i wont, dont worry :P 22:21:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 22:22:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> has the bus stop limit been increased yet? 22:22:14 <PublicServer> <Mark> like the max no. of connected ones 22:22:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw, can you think of any reasonable ideas on islands? I didnt come up with any other :) 22:22:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk 22:22:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> other than teleports? :P 22:22:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably not 22:22:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, other :D 22:22:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Fokker F VII. 22:22:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> it has been increased 22:22:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> awesome 22:23:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> ywa 22:23:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> yea seems high as fuck 22:23:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 22:23:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> look at Fredinghall woods 22:23:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> xD 22:23:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> nice 22:23:44 <PublicServer> <Mark> this is going to be a new generation for teleports 22:24:34 <PublicServer> <Mark> we should do a 128^2 game with a quad teleport transporting everything 22:24:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 22:25:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> right. :D 22:25:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> thatd be so confusing 22:25:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> i might try that in SP when i get back to darwin 22:25:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> im going to be bored there anyway 22:25:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It already is. 22:26:15 <Ammler> Hello Mark :-) 22:26:21 <PublicServer> <Mark> ammler :D 22:26:25 <PublicServer> <Mark> happy new year 22:26:27 <Ammler> are you also in the wather? 22:26:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> the what? 22:26:37 <Ammler> yeah, same to you, thought is already 2 days 22:27:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> its not flooded here 22:27:18 <PublicServer> <Mark> i was in queensland a week ago though, was raining all the time 22:27:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> pretty much non-stop for 10 days 22:27:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> its dry, sunny and about 33 degrees here :) 22:27:46 <PublicServer> <Mark> perfect beach weather 22:27:55 <Ammler> yeah, I just heared something in the news... 22:28:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> its really bad in queensland 22:28:07 <PublicServer> <Mark> like, worst ever 22:28:47 <PublicServer> <Mark> im just hoping im not getting a cyclone when i get back to darwin 22:28:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> they say its going to be a bad season 22:29:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> though a small one would be pretty cool to see 22:29:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> say, catagory 2 max 22:29:27 <Ammler> hehe 22:29:33 <PublicServer> <Mark> im talking way too much 22:29:43 <PublicServer> <Mark> i think i still got alcohol from yesterday in me 22:29:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> who doesnt :) 22:29:59 <Ammler> \o 22:30:17 <Ammler> alcohol mostly out already :'-( 22:30:26 <V453000> Swiss out of beer? 22:30:33 <Ammler> no, but my blood 22:30:59 <V453000> :D 22:31:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> we'll probably take a box of beer up to bondi beach again later today 22:31:08 <KenjiE20> ammler makes as much sense drunk as sober @[ 22:31:09 <KenjiE20> :p * 22:31:14 <^Spike^> ammler is out of blood? 22:31:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> lol 22:31:22 <^Spike^> got that much alcohol? 22:31:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> ammler is just pumping pure alcohol around 22:32:46 <Ammler> he, I drink maybe 1/100 of what I did 10 years ago :-P 22:33:20 <V453000> :D 22:33:24 <V453000> out of blood :D 22:33:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D8EB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003D8EB.png 22:33:40 <Ammler> indeed 22:34:11 <KenjiE20> ammler's marrow just manufactures alcohol now, saves time and money 22:34:15 <Ammler> !url 22:34:15 <PublicServer> Ammler: http://ps.openttdcoop.org 22:34:37 <Ammler> V453000: bit newgrf list :-D 22:34:47 <V453000> :P 22:34:49 <Ammler> is there more possible? 22:34:52 <V453000> ofc 22:34:57 <V453000> its not 64 yet 22:35:04 <V453000> by far I guess, havent counted 22:35:09 <Ammler> then I take back my compliment :-P 22:35:12 <V453000> but well, it is basically everything that would make sense 22:35:30 <Ammler> I reached to make a max newgrf game for wwottdgd/2 22:36:03 <Ammler> oh, on that time, the opengfx was made with around 10 newgfs 22:36:29 <V453000> I did with using the stupid ECS and a bit overcombinated city, train and staion sets 22:36:43 <Ammler> he, and you used again obsolete grfs 22:36:54 <Ammler> that gives some minus points 22:39:10 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 22:39:23 <Mark> ... 22:39:28 <Ammler> ,,, 22:39:31 <V453000> hehe 22:39:35 <Mark> oh well 22:39:41 <Mark> breakfast time i think 22:39:51 <Mark> i love being in the city, you can just get sushi any time of the day 22:39:58 <V453000> have a nice time Mark :) hope to see you again soon 22:40:14 <Mark> thank you :) 22:40:18 <Mark> i might be on again 22:40:43 <Ammler> indeed, have a nice summer :-) 22:40:59 <Mark> thanks mate :) 22:42:27 <SmatZ> :) 22:43:25 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 22:43:47 <V453000> !password 22:43:47 <PublicServer> V453000: troupe 22:44:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:48:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DAE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DAE9.png 22:49:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: thad you do not think we need a plan does not mean you start building 22:49:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> and stage is still planning 22:49:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 22:50:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, it's a small MM, too :D 22:50:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 22:50:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> it isnt 22:50:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> MM is pax aircraft 22:51:15 *** scrlk has joined #openttdcoop 22:52:31 <scrlk> anyone home? 22:52:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 22:52:41 <mfb-> hi 22:52:45 <V453000> hi 22:52:51 <V453000> @quickstart 22:52:52 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 22:53:08 <scrlk> hows ottdcoop going nowadays? 22:54:22 *** scrlk has quit IRC 22:55:28 <Mazur> Ever forward. 22:59:37 <planetmaker> yeah. the time machine still has issues 22:59:44 <planetmaker> only one-way. into the future 23:00:06 <planetmaker> and at a fixed rate only, too. one second per second. 23:00:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> must be a cheap one 23:00:31 <planetmaker> quite. 23:00:35 *** scrlk has joined #openttdcoop 23:00:39 <scrlk> !download win32 23:00:39 <PublicServer> scrlk: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r21659/openttd-trunk-r21659-windows-win32.zip 23:00:47 <V453000> you can enhance it by some hallucinogens, then it usually goes more than 1 sps 23:00:53 <V453000> sps == second per second 23:00:57 <Webster> Latest update from blog: PSG 200 aka PF 2011 <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/01/01/psg-200-aka-pf-2011/> 23:01:16 <planetmaker> V453000: but that's only virtual time then ;-) 23:01:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yea :D 23:03:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029646: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029646.png 23:04:04 <hylje> my favorite hallucination is sleeping 23:04:33 <Mark> back 23:04:42 <scrlk> umm may i join the game and do some eyecandy-ing? im kinda new 23:04:58 <Mark> yeah just come on in 23:05:05 <avdg> V: small fix: change ".These" -> ". These" (it somehow blocks me to read the article, but thats personal) 23:05:09 <^Spike^> what's there to eye candy atm btw? 23:05:15 <scrlk> ok im following the quickstart... 23:05:57 <Mark> !password 23:05:57 <PublicServer> Mark: clergy 23:06:13 <^Spike^> a space after a dot at the END of the article BLOCKS you from reading 23:06:25 <^Spike^> i wonder how you noticed that space then since you had to read the whole "article" 23:07:01 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 23:07:09 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +o Mark 23:07:20 *** Chillosophy has quit IRC 23:07:47 <scrlk> im having troublt joining it says some of the grfs can not be downloaded 23:08:04 <Mark> do you have the grfpack? 23:08:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> follow quickstart more :p 23:08:14 <Mark> its still needed i think 23:08:18 <mfb-> try that: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/grfpack/releases/LATEST/ 23:08:21 <scrlk> well im using the ingame downloader per guide 23:08:42 <Mark> are we on all-bananas grfs? 23:08:53 <mfb-> you should be able to download all other grfs 23:09:00 <^Spike^> alot of bananas and the grfpack mark 23:09:07 <planetmaker> not yet quite Mark 23:09:11 <planetmaker> but some games might be 23:09:20 <^Spike^> this one doesn't seem to be :) 23:09:34 <^Spike^> it's a V made map... :) 23:09:38 <^Spike^> that should be the hint ;) 23:09:56 <^Spike^> then the question is it all bananas is retorical... NO! :) 23:10:19 <V453000> duh :P maps for stable are bananas only 23:11:27 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 23:11:36 <Mark> wha 23:11:39 <^Spike^> it shocked Mark so much.. he disconnected 23:11:40 <^Spike^> :D 23:12:41 <Mark> indeed 23:12:44 <Mark> !password 23:12:44 <PublicServer> Mark: clergy 23:12:48 <^Spike^> he is anti-grfpack? ;) 23:13:23 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 23:13:40 <Mark> the password doesnt change as often as it used to does it? 23:13:46 <^Spike^> 15 mins if i'm right 23:14:03 <^Spike^> i can check.. but have to login again... yada yada yada.. 23:14:04 <^Spike^> too much work 23:14:05 <^Spike^> :) 23:14:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Used to be 5 mins, now 15 mins. 23:14:08 *** ODM has quit IRC 23:14:11 <^Spike^> i guess it's 15 :) 23:14:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> making steel mill next to factory ius kinda boring 23:15:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> we can abuse station spread 23:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, thats boring 23:15:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> or we build separate trains to carry iron from the factory drop to the steel mill 23:15:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> and fairly lame imo 23:16:00 <^Spike^> mfb- lesson 1: Only abuse station spread when it's REALLY REALLY REALLY ...... REALLY REALLY REALLY the only way to do it 23:16:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok ;) 23:16:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: no 23:16:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets make the steel mill (if any) only local on boost island 23:16:41 <^Spike^> or you're making a lazy sbahn.... but... that depends on alot :) 23:16:47 <scrlk> still cant connect even with the grf pack 23:16:56 <^Spike^> it is in the proper folder? 23:17:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> OR we could kill steel completely and feed only from local farms on BOOST island, I think that would be better 23:17:02 <scrlk> yep in data 23:17:18 <scrlk> content downloader giving saying the file is unknown 23:17:18 <^Spike^> fun actually is.. i don't even know where mine is... 23:17:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> version of the game ? 23:17:29 <^Spike^> oh.. yeah data... 23:17:36 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 23:17:40 <^Spike^> scrlk also what Vinnie said.. got proper game version 23:17:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> only local farms? 23:17:48 <^Spike^> !tell scrlk about dl 23:17:51 <^Spike^> !tell scrlk about !dl 23:17:53 <scrlk> everything is upto date 23:17:54 <^Spike^> stupid bot 23:17:56 <^Spike^> !dl 23:17:56 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 23:17:57 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21659 23:17:57 <scrlk> used !dl 23:18:01 <^Spike^> !dl 23:18:01 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|win32|win64|win9x 23:18:01 <PublicServer> ^Spike^: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r21659 23:18:05 <^Spike^> hmmmm 23:18:07 <scrlk> yeah did that 23:18:13 <Mark> lol 23:18:17 <^Spike^> i was just wondering why i get 2 lines 23:18:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> sec, brb ... few minutes 23:18:22 <scrlk> 7zip is crashing when copying over one of the grfs 23:18:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C5D4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C5D4.png 23:18:59 <^Spike^> ..... 7zip crashing? 23:19:09 <scrlk> it doesnt like the obsolete folder 23:19:12 <scrlk> jpn tainset 23:19:13 <PublicServer> *** avdg joined the game 23:19:15 <^Spike^> do we supply 7z files? 23:19:20 <^Spike^> oh.. we do... 23:19:38 <PublicServer> *** DayDreamer has left the game (connection lost) 23:19:46 <scrlk> ive skipped the trainset 23:20:15 <^Spike^> we got some stuff from obselete added so that might be your problem 23:20:32 <scrlk> humm 23:20:44 <scrlk> thought the autodownloader works 99% of the time? 23:20:55 <^Spike^> in openttd? 23:20:58 <scrlk> ok japan trees are crashing 23:20:59 <scrlk> yeah 23:21:06 <^Spike^> on alot of server maybe.. but not ours :) 23:21:09 <scrlk> content downloading 23:21:27 <^Spike^> we tend to sometimes use grfs that isn't on bananas (as it's called) 23:21:30 <scrlk> lets try again... 23:21:32 <PublicServer> *** avdg has left the game (leaving) 23:21:35 <^Spike^> sometimes as in.. alot... :) 23:21:47 <scrlk> im in 23:21:49 <scrlk> yey! :D 23:21:53 <scrlk> !password 23:21:53 <PublicServer> scrlk: remiss 23:21:54 <^Spike^> oki 23:22:09 <PublicServer> *** scrlk joined the game 23:22:17 <PublicServer> <scrlk> hi all! :D 23:22:30 *** DayDreamer1 has joined #openttdcoop 23:25:20 <PublicServer> <scrlk> how does one go about disabling the news? 23:25:28 <PublicServer> <scrlk> found it nvm 23:25:46 <PublicServer> <Spike> what news 23:25:53 <PublicServer> <scrlk> oh the ticker 23:25:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> msage train lost new industrie ea 23:26:01 <Mazur> And the pop-ups. 23:26:03 <PublicServer> <scrlk> havent played in a long time 23:26:22 <mfb-> message options? 23:26:31 <SmatZ> Vinnie: sorry? 23:26:32 <PublicServer> <scrlk> yeah i got it 23:26:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> if you didn't notice yet: That was a comment not to be answered as in i have that for months already 23:26:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright, do we want one factory fed by all the farms around it, OR do we want to add a steel mill? 23:26:58 <PublicServer> <scrlk> pardon? 23:27:04 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 23:27:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would keep just and only the factory, so that it is a true boost with 1 industry 23:27:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm maybe a steel mill on the feeder island 23:27:34 <PublicServer> <scrlk> re: planes, do we want to upgrade or keep the old ones? 23:27:35 *** DayDreamer1 has quit IRC 23:27:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: then it isnt a feeder 23:27:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> i like the idea of feeding everything possible to the factory 23:28:00 <^Spike^> planes don't matter we will not use them anyway later on 23:28:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> but why 23:28:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> boost it 23:28:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> it would only mess things up imo 23:28:29 <PublicServer> <scrlk> ok i was just thinking about shifting more stuff 23:28:47 <PublicServer> <Spike> we just want to move pax with the planes no need to change that for the MM 23:28:53 <PublicServer> <Spike> seems you missed a part on the quickstart :) 23:29:33 <scrlk> yeah i found that part 23:30:22 <PublicServer> <Spike> mfb: the things we do in this game can get complicated enough already 23:30:42 <PublicServer> <Spike> since this would be a first we would try to implement all the features over the years 23:30:53 <PublicServer> <Spike> complicating it even more seems unnecesary 23:30:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, we have many small networks 23:32:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: I posted an "idea 1" on BOOST island 23:32:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to add a different idea 23:32:08 <PublicServer> <scrlk> this is going to be an intresting game 23:32:13 <PublicServer> <scrlk> lots of islands 23:32:15 <PublicServer> *** scrlk has left the game (leaving) 23:32:32 <Mark> its our 200th anniversary game 23:33:25 <scrlk> i guess you want it to be big, large and pretty? 23:33:41 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FCFE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FCFE.png 23:33:41 <Mark> just memorable :P 23:34:01 <scrlk> im all for massive land bridges via the canal trick :D 23:34:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> wont see much of those 23:34:38 <scrlk> oh so no trains? 23:34:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> rather, most of the islands arent interconnected 23:35:13 <Mark> bridges are nicer 23:35:30 <Mark> !password 23:35:30 <PublicServer> Mark: keenly 23:36:05 <scrlk> does ottd now have signals on bridges? 23:36:10 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 23:36:15 <Mark> we just make double ones 23:36:28 <Mark> 5 tile ones with a 1 tile island inbetween if needed 23:37:33 <scrlk> this will be a pax game judging by the somewhat sparse industry? 23:37:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> please read the signs 23:37:48 <^Spike^> no... this will be a rare all in one game 23:38:07 <^Spike^> and as said: reading signs does help alot 23:38:41 <scrlk> i was only in for a couple of mins, just looking and things 23:38:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> lower boost effect, but a nice idea to combine both 23:39:23 *** scrlk has quit IRC 23:39:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: see Compromise 23:39:33 <^Spike^> bu-bye 23:39:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think that makes some good sense 23:39:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> see chat :p. me too 23:40:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont see why it is lower boost effect, but meh 23:40:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> less goods 23:40:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 23:40:18 <^Spike^> i should actually be figuring out how to use openvpn between 2 routers atm... 23:40:20 <^Spike^> damn... 23:40:23 <^Spike^> that late already... :) 23:40:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> just one type of industry per island 23:40:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> so what 23:40:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> throughputs dont change 23:43:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> two drop stations? one feeder, one steel? 23:43:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> why 23:43:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> TL6 <-> TL3 23:43:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 23:43:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, steel/transfer includes transfer 23:46:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> mfb: "factory here?" is a bit nicer imo 23:46:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> made an proposal for refit island (08) 23:46:55 *** hylje has quit IRC 23:47:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> drop+pickup where? 23:47:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: refits are best with goods producing things 23:47:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> like grain -> goods 23:47:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> not grain -> iron 23:47:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> or ... 23:47:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I se 23:48:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw I think there is no wagon with iron ore -> steel -> goods 23:48:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> nor iron ore -> steel 23:48:40 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003CF1C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003CF1C.png 23:48:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i looked it up 23:48:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> both carrages exist 23:50:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> ugh, low side wagons? 23:52:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, yes, we could do something like that 23:52:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> but lets make also oil and wood 23:52:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least 23:53:00 <avdg> gn 23:53:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 23:53:13 <Mazur> Sleep well, avdg. 23:53:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> gn8 23:53:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> tbh I dont really see what is "Refit SL1" and "Refit SL2" though 23:53:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a sideline 23:53:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont show SLs in a plan 23:53:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> makes mess in the scheme 23:54:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :) 23:55:12 <PublicServer> *** hippidy joined the game 23:55:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> the central goods drop might be quite reasonable 23:55:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> or... hmm 23:55:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> no, maybe not 23:55:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> let me make a second 23:56:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you may choose :) 23:57:02 <PublicServer> <hippidy> shall I make a plan for the oldschool island? (joke) 23:58:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> well, you can try 23:58:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> the only real plan feature there is a 4way hub 23:58:24 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 23:58:37 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 23:59:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so next plan must have a 4 way hub or its rubbish ? :D 23:59:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> oldschool island should have a 4way