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Log for #openttdcoop on 25th September 2011:
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00:30:27  <Jplate8> !password
00:30:27  <PublicServer> Jplate8: buffet
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03:25:23  <Sleeeper> !password
03:25:23  <PublicServer> Sleeeper: buffet
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03:35:21  <PublicServer> Patrickov: buffet
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04:42:40  <vindicare> !password
04:42:40  <PublicServer> vindicare: caucus
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04:43:00  <PublicServer> <Vindicare> hi
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05:29:48  <Vinnie_nl> !playercount
05:29:48  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators)
05:42:14  <Vinnie_nl> !password
05:42:14  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: caucus
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05:42:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
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07:14:44  <aldor> !password
07:14:44  <PublicServer> aldor: tuxedo
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07:14:57  <PublicServer> <aldor> hi
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07:54:07  <Dilandau> hello
07:54:10  <Dilandau> !password
07:54:10  <PublicServer> Dilandau: cheeps
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08:01:59  <makjes> !password
08:01:59  <PublicServer> makjes: cheeps
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08:12:25  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hello
08:12:31  <PublicServer> <makjes> hi
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08:14:54  <V453000> !password
08:14:55  <PublicServer> V453000: lawful
08:15:06  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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08:15:10  <PublicServer> <makjes> hi
08:15:10  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi V
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08:22:47  <Vinnie_nl> !password
08:22:47  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: loping
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08:23:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> goodmorning all
08:23:09  <PublicServer> <V453000> hy
08:23:16  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
08:25:40  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> mornin
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08:37:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> has each town got a statue now?
08:38:00  <PublicServer> <V453000> blame Sleeper
08:39:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> one more industry of SLH01. the exit ocasionally jams the ML
08:39:51  <PublicServer> <V453000> hm
08:42:00  <hylje> !password
08:42:00  <PublicServer> hylje: fibber
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08:42:46  <PublicServer> <V453000> coming for a madness breakfast? :P hi
08:43:01  <PublicServer> <hylje> i already ate the madness
08:45:18  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> bye
08:45:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
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08:47:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh important missing exit
08:49:17  <PublicServer> <V453000> k SLH 01 should work now
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08:51:45  <V453000> later
08:51:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
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08:53:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn map end
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08:57:37  <PublicServer> <hylje> oh i improved bbh4
08:58:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> inner or outer?
08:58:05  <PublicServer> <hylje> o
09:03:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I did it :)
09:05:07  <Tray> !password
09:05:07  <PublicServer> Tray: damped
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09:11:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya later today ppl
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09:11:22  <PublicServer> <hylje> cya
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09:23:17  <imus> !players
09:23:20  <PublicServer> imus: Client 699 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Baker & Co.)
09:23:20  <PublicServer> imus: Client 75 is hnrgrgr, a spectator
09:23:20  <PublicServer> imus: Client 676 (Orange) is makjes, in company 1 (Baker & Co.)
09:23:20  <PublicServer> imus: Client 682 (Orange) is TWerkhoven, in company 1 (Baker & Co.)
09:23:20  <PublicServer> imus: Client 693 (Orange) is hylje, in company 1 (Baker & Co.)
09:24:13  <imus> !password
09:24:13  <PublicServer> imus: tempos
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09:24:28  <PublicServer> <imus> hi
09:24:38  <PublicServer> <makjes> hi
09:28:10  <LXSJason> !password
09:28:10  <PublicServer> LXSJason: tempos
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09:34:17  <imus> !password
09:34:17  <PublicServer> imus: tempos
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09:34:23  <Maraxus> !password
09:34:23  <PublicServer> Maraxus: tempos
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09:35:15  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi
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09:43:32  <PublicServer> <imus> anything left to do?
09:50:07  <imus> !gap 7
09:50:07  <PublicServer> imus: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2)
09:50:18  <imus> !gap 2 7
09:50:19  <PublicServer> imus: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 7.
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09:55:19  <imus> !gap 2 8
09:55:19  <PublicServer> imus: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 8.
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10:07:48  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> arr
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10:07:56  <PublicServer> <imus> hi
10:08:10  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
10:08:14  <hylje> heya
10:09:03  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hylje: you have actually put some time into a game again :)
10:10:37  <PublicServer> <imus> lunch time
10:10:37  <PublicServer> <imus> cya
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10:25:46  <Sleeeper> !password
10:25:47  <PublicServer> Sleeeper: totems
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10:28:38  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> ouch. trains limit
10:30:26  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Sleeeper: can you not fund town statues anymore in the future?
10:30:36  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> ok :(
10:32:38  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :)
10:32:40  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> but why?
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10:33:08  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because we cant remove them
10:33:58  <V453000> and there is no reason to build them either
10:34:29  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> they make maximum output to 99% instead of 75% from factories
10:35:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> their benefit does not outweigh the cost of not being able to remove them
10:36:05  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this game is a perfect example, there are quite a few towns that the ML runs through, and now there is one building we can not remove
10:36:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and the worst part of it is that it is player constructed
10:36:59  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> i see
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10:38:46  <V453000> well simply put, you can always add more primaries
10:38:50  <V453000> and get more cargo
10:38:54  <V453000> so some % isnt that important
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10:40:13  <Fuco> !dl win64
10:40:13  <PublicServer> Fuco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip
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10:40:19  <pugi> !password
10:40:19  <PublicServer> pugi: genres
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10:41:00  <PublicServer> <pugi> oh noes
10:41:08  <PublicServer> <pugi> the ore mine i connected is gone :(
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10:41:53  <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm
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10:42:11  <PublicServer> <pugi> i can't rebuild a ore mine there, can i?
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10:42:19  <Dilandau> !password
10:42:19  <PublicServer> Dilandau: genres
10:42:33  <PublicServer> <Fuuco> TL2 game, haven't seen that in a while
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10:42:37  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> no, its prospecting only
10:42:47  <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> so it would just pop up at a random place
10:42:57  <PublicServer> <pugi> i noticed :D
10:43:03  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi
10:43:29  <V453000> I can allow it if you want
10:43:35  <V453000> funding
10:43:45  <V453000> if you need to bring a mine back to life
10:43:47  <PublicServer> <pugi> i already deleted the trains :D
10:43:56  <PublicServer> <pugi> but the station is still there...
10:44:48  <PublicServer> <pugi> and we are at train limit
10:45:19  <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> don't worry, i'm removing some
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10:45:34  <pugi> i'm off to lunch now anyways
10:46:33  <V453000> removing trains? :o
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10:52:37  <imus> !password
10:52:37  <PublicServer> imus: zebras
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11:27:17  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> Sleeeper ....
11:27:23  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> what
11:27:29  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> now it's not balanced
11:27:43  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> it's optional
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12:20:33  <cakemasher> hey?
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12:20:46  <planetmaker> ho!
12:20:58  <cakemasher> :P
12:21:03  <Dilandau> hi
12:21:28  <cakemasher> i'm searching for an wiki page or somthing like that with technical information on how to connect to a openttd server and send rcon commands to it
12:21:34  <cakemasher> without using the openttd client..
12:21:48  <cakemasher> is there a webpage that explains this??
12:22:01  <planetmaker> autopilot may help
12:22:09  <cakemasher> hmm
12:22:18  <hylje> i think we use autopilot to run openttd on irc
12:22:23  <cakemasher> been searching for a while on the website :P
12:22:29  <cakemasher> is autopilot open source?
12:22:31  <planetmaker> or start it in an xterm, probably using screen. Then you can ssh and can type directly in the server
12:22:41  <cakemasher> well, the problem is..
12:22:46  <cakemasher> i'm making my own application
12:22:56  <hylje> planetmaker: ssh-screen-stuff sounds pretty awful to script into an API
12:23:02  <cakemasher> when i send something to the server, it will give me errors
12:23:09  <planetmaker> hylje: the API is the admin interface.
12:23:15  <planetmaker> which ap+ also doesn't use
12:23:30  <hylje> so there's that
12:23:35  <planetmaker> if you anyway write your own, cakemasher, then use the admin interface
12:23:40  <cakemasher> dbg: [net] [udp] received illegal pakcet from 127.0.0.1:61405 (IPv4)
12:23:57  <planetmaker> well. send proper packets ;-)
12:24:01  <cakemasher> yeah
12:24:08  <hylje> packet crafting is an art
12:24:11  <cakemasher> i dont know the proper packets.. i cant find any wiki page for it =[
12:24:17  <planetmaker> there isn't.
12:24:22  <cakemasher> =[
12:24:30  <hylje> there should be network protocol documentation in openttd code
12:24:41  <cakemasher> yeah, searched for it..
12:24:41  <planetmaker> you can either spy on one of the two existing libraries to connect to. And / or read openttd's network code
12:24:46  <cakemasher> but dint get any wiser..
12:24:48  <planetmaker> it has elaborate doxygen, but still
12:25:55  <Paul2> !version
12:25:55  <PublicServer> Paul2: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.422ef4e8cbe1)
12:26:01  <Paul2> @version
12:26:01  <planetmaker> well, what language do you use, cakemasher?
12:26:02  <Webster> Paul2: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
12:26:07  <cakemasher> PHP.. =]
12:26:08  <planetmaker> !revision
12:26:09  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r22950
12:26:14  <Paul2> thanks ;)
12:26:34  <planetmaker> you could simply use !dl
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12:27:19  <cakemasher> i'm sending packets like..:   chr ( strlen ($cmd) + strlen ($rconPass) + 5) . chr (0) . chr (31) . $rconPass . chr (0) . $command . chr (0)
12:27:27  <Paul2> !dl win32
12:27:27  <PublicServer> Paul2: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win32.zip
12:27:29  <Paul2> true :)
12:29:21  <planetmaker> cakemasher: rcon password is NOT the password for the admin port
12:29:52  <hylje> planetmaker: the error message in console should be more specific if openttd did parse the packet, but did not authenticate
12:29:55  <cakemasher> hmm, but i dont get an error on the password.. i get the error of sending an illigal package
12:30:56  <Paul2> hmm. newgrf isn't icking up the files I need. Wonder why?
12:31:05  <hylje> Paul2: do you have the grf pack
12:31:07  <Dilandau> !grf
12:31:07  <PublicServer> Dilandau: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0)
12:31:14  <Paul2> oh whoops
12:31:17  <Paul2> I was being stupid :)
12:31:22  <cakemasher> ^^
12:31:32  <Paul2> !password
12:31:32  <PublicServer> Paul2: burped
12:31:40  <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players)
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12:31:44  <Paul2> :)
12:31:48  <planetmaker> there's a separate admin_password
12:32:08  <cakemasher> do you need that to send a rcon command to the server?
12:32:23  <planetmaker> and the default admin_port is definitely not 61... but 3977
12:32:36  <planetmaker> cakemasher: the admin port has nothing to do with rcon...
12:33:11  <planetmaker> at least not in the first place
12:33:59  <Vinnie_nl> !password
12:33:59  <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: burped
12:34:06  <cakemasher> 127.0.0.1:61405, 61405 is the port that the client uses to connect to the server..
12:34:19  <planetmaker> yes, and?
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12:34:23  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
12:34:28  <PublicServer> <Twigman> hello
12:34:30  <planetmaker> client and admin-access is entirely different things
12:34:34  <cakemasher> the php script is connecting to 127.0.0.1:3979
12:34:47  <Vinnie_nl> nice local machine
12:34:49  <cakemasher> i know, but what i need, is to send a rcon command to the server..
12:34:55  <cakemasher> test machine ;)
12:35:00  <planetmaker> cakemasher: no, you don't.
12:35:06  <planetmaker> You need to send the proper admin command
12:35:18  <cakemasher> hmm
12:35:19  <planetmaker> which is not rcon. But can have the same effect
12:35:36  <cakemasher> i've read somthing about that
12:35:37  <cakemasher> 1 sec..
12:35:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm complete east is getting full
12:36:11  <planetmaker> did you at least read docs/admin_network.txt ?
12:36:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyone care to help me expand?
12:36:36  * planetmaker stretches Vinnie_nl
12:36:41  <planetmaker> fell expanded now?
12:36:46  <planetmaker> *feel
12:37:02  <planetmaker> scnr ;-)
12:37:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah it helps
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12:38:38  <cakemasher> hmm
12:38:48  <cakemasher> admin_network.txt says you what to send
12:38:57  <cakemasher> but not the technical part of it
12:39:02  <cakemasher> "  To authenticate send a ADMIN_PACKET_ADMIN_JOIN packet."
12:39:14  <hylje> packets are all defined in openttd code
12:39:19  <cakemasher> hmm
12:39:23  <cakemasher> tcp_admin.h?
12:39:33  <hylje> sounds like a good place to start
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15:11:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> you mean exit?
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15:12:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
15:12:06  <PublicServer> <mfb> k
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15:12:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what happens on irc with the massive join of people
15:12:57  <mfb-> haydn is back
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15:13:39  <^ekipS^> more: WE FIXED ZE PROBLEM!
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15:13:52  <^ekipS^> or well... haydn itself did the most work...
15:14:03  <^ekipS^> we just trembled in fear no data loss is there
15:14:05  <planetmaker> except as in 502 ;-)
15:14:05  <^ekipS^> :)
15:14:16  <^ekipS^> it's still starting all shit up :)
15:14:38  <^Spike^> what am i doing there.. while i can do it here aswell
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15:14:48  <^Spike^> much easier :)
15:15:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, temp is jamming
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15:15:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2 temp
15:16:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> temp1 works
15:17:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> factory drop...
15:17:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> picjup is nearly done
15:17:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we make this game so ugly
15:18:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Its finally dead. damn iron mine
15:18:03  <Webster> Latest update from dznews: OpenGFX - OpenGFX 0.3.6 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/58>
15:18:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> which one?
15:18:27  <Webster> Latest update from blog: PSG #214: New client record <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/11/psg-214-new-client-record/> || Back to the Basics (Signals How,What,When and even Where) <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/10/back-to-the-basics-signals-howwhatwhen-and-even-where/> || More time lapses <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/31/more-timelapses/> || Rivers during map generation <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/20/rivers-during-map-generation/> || OpenTTD time lapse <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/01/openttd-time-lapse/> || Copyright and licenses: permission to … what actually? <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/07/16/copyright-and-licenses-permission-to-what-actually/> || Advanced Building Revue 10: Invisible Hubs <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/06/02/advanced-building-revue-10-invisible-hubs/> || New Member: mfb <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/05/03/new-member-mfb/> || New member: Sylf <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/04/09/new-member-sylf/> || Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/01/21/advanced-building-revue-09-self-regulating-stations/>
15:18:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah that
15:18:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> nice timing
15:18:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> next to the factory drop
15:19:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> 5th there?
15:19:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> extra row is most easy i guess
15:19:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
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15:19:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> no idea how to get that out/in
15:19:55  <PublicServer> <mfb> I would begin at the other end
15:19:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have a little one
15:20:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> idea i mean
15:20:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok
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15:22:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> and now? ;)
15:22:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge the ML=
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15:23:49  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> factory pickup exit ok?
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15:23:59  <PublicServer> <mfb> looks good
15:24:07  <Maraxus> !password
15:24:07  <PublicServer> Maraxus: banged
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15:24:29  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
15:24:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey
15:24:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
15:24:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke lets kill the overflow
15:25:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> pickup exit looks strange now, as it only uses 4 lines
15:25:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> adjust it?
15:26:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> factory exit needs a balancer
15:27:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
15:27:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a simple one like the spokes?
15:27:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
15:27:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
15:27:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe connect the 5th to all 4
15:28:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> no
15:28:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> see here
15:28:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ke
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15:32:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, better
15:36:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> it works :D
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15:37:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
15:38:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gap to big
15:38:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> ah
15:38:55  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> still :(
15:39:12  <PublicServer> <mfb> the double tunnel?
15:39:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no the tripple bridge
15:39:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
15:39:32  <PublicServer> <mfb> 4th :D
15:40:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am not awake :)
15:40:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the factory exit is jamming
15:40:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> wgere?
15:40:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> ..
15:41:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, a bit
15:41:22  <PublicServer> <mfb> wrong signals
15:41:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> solved
15:41:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shit we are both working
15:42:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> was just the signal I think
15:42:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone made also a combo between the first and second split
15:42:37  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so they where linked
15:42:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> ...
15:44:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf
15:44:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> factory goods pickup exit
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15:44:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> been like that for a while
15:44:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> one should join another line
15:46:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> a bit better
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15:51:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 03 Outer
15:52:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also 5 lines?
15:52:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> the 4 are full
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15:57:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
15:57:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> that will give problems at the BBH
15:57:47  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if you make 5 on the outside?
15:57:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> yes
15:58:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> inside is tricky with the SLH
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15:58:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> *(**)*
16:00:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> :o
16:00:24  <PublicServer> <Theos> ah shit
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16:02:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now outer has no prio
16:02:53  <MrD2DG> !password
16:02:53  <PublicServer> MrD2DG: cloths
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16:03:27  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hi
16:03:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
16:03:35  <PublicServer> <Theos> yeo
16:03:45  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
16:04:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nvm then
16:04:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just another ugly flaw in this game :P
16:05:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> we are beyond the point of eyecandy
16:05:33  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :P
16:05:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we in general or us two
16:06:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> the whole map
16:06:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need 2.5k trains
16:06:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like PZ05
16:06:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
16:07:00  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on 1/4th of the map size :)
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16:07:59  <mfb-> PZ05 was maglev?
16:08:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
16:08:16  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL3
16:09:27  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> 2.5k :S I cant handle that
16:09:51  <PublicServer> <mfb> we have 1/2 of that now
16:10:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
16:10:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> the NW-stations might need an expansion
16:10:46  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i dont like that
16:11:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> and a 4th input line
16:12:08  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb what was the plan for SLH 07?
16:12:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> the existing one, or one line on the other side
16:12:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> other side
16:17:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now lets see
16:18:05  <PublicServer> <mfb> exit to drops missing
16:18:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> and the BBH
16:18:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i wanted to do the BBH
16:18:30  <PublicServer> <mfb> may need a rebuild
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16:20:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> well, something like ready
16:20:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that just looks evil
16:21:16  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Im doing it
16:21:22  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Oh 1 tile short
16:21:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> ...
16:22:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cheater
16:22:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
16:22:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now its long enough
16:22:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> 07?
16:22:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> was long enough before, too
16:22:43  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> I forgot TL2
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16:23:13  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Meh, splits closer now anyway
16:23:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> was even closer before
16:24:02  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> It wasnt..
16:24:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> it was, due to the waiting bay
16:24:18  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> I mean the second split is closer to the first
16:24:26  <PublicServer> <mfb> I know
16:24:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> but with the waiting bay, there was no gap
16:24:48  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Oh
16:24:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> now there is a small one
16:25:04  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Dont remember seeing one, just saw PBS and thought it could be fixed...
16:25:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> it is pbs-free now, that is true
16:26:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH02 starts to fail aswell
16:26:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Inner that is
16:27:04  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
16:27:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> not so bad
16:28:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone made my name look bad
16:28:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
16:28:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> near Llanelli forest there where some wrong tracks
16:28:54  <PublicServer> <Theos> hi :)
16:29:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> hi
16:29:18  <PublicServer> <Theos> sorry v, just fixni that jam back to the ml
16:29:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> that forest has some jams
16:29:22  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it worked when there where pre-signals but who made it pbs forgot to remove them
16:29:46  <PublicServer> <Theos> yeah didnt do that
16:30:00  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Was afk, hi theos
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16:32:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb you said rebuild BBH01 or not?
16:34:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> I discussed the idea
16:34:18  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :P
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16:38:11  <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> afk
16:39:50  <V453000> !password
16:39:50  <PublicServer> V453000: siesta
16:39:58  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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16:40:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello
16:40:17  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi
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16:45:22  <V453000> laters
16:45:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya
16:45:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> cu
16:45:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what to break next
16:46:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> :p
16:46:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> you planned to do BBH01 outer?
16:46:17  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> break/uglify
16:46:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH01 outer is a mess atm
16:46:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> indeed
16:46:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna shut it down complete and then rebuild?
16:47:11  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
16:47:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need connections in the middle but that is impossible now
16:48:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or rebuild a part in the sea and replace it
16:48:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
16:48:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> build it in V style again?
16:49:06  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like all his other BBH merges in this PSG
16:49:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> would look nice
16:49:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> but for 5+4->5...
16:49:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> means outer two lanes have prio and the rest multi to multi
16:51:01  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but that means each ML should split into 5 lanes :(
16:51:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the tricky part...
16:51:30  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 7 * 5 = 35 tracks in the center
16:51:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> lol
16:52:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna do it?
16:52:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> 35 lines...
16:52:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> 21 tiles width
16:52:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> looks like a challenge
16:52:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah ofcourse if you split a line later and merge some sooner you can make it happen
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16:53:09  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you wont need the 35 tiles
16:54:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, 03 outer will work
16:54:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you completed 03?
16:55:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> could be done better, and one connection is missing
16:55:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> but apart from that, yes
16:55:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> 03 inner needs another line then
16:56:44  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke i dont have the time atm to complete the merger
16:56:50  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> need about 20 hours
16:56:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> ;)
16:57:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, maybe later
16:57:27  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets adjust the current one to make it more dirty
16:57:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
17:00:39  <PublicServer> <mfb> more connections? :D
17:01:04  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait
17:01:09  <V453000> if you want a hint then dont merge ring ML at all
17:01:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh
17:01:15  <V453000> and just merge the spoke into it
17:01:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge that
17:01:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
17:02:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sxy
17:02:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sexy
17:02:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now lane 3
17:05:29  <PublicServer> <mfb> crap, missing connection
17:06:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> evil X all the way
17:07:33  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where missing connection?
17:07:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> already fixed
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17:09:40  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i want that one to be a bridge
17:10:18  <PublicServer> <mfb> pbs
17:10:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
17:12:33  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
17:13:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> connect to what?
17:13:36  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3rd ML
17:13:43  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no connection from 5 to 3rd
17:13:49  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh oh
17:13:57  <PublicServer> <mfb> so to 5th
17:14:36  <PublicServer> <mfb> ?
17:14:43  <PublicServer> <mfb> I got an idea
17:15:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, another tunnel
17:16:14  <PublicServer> <mfb> crap
17:16:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> even more to lower
17:16:34  <PublicServer> <mfb> better
17:17:21  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 5th connected to inner 2 lanes?
17:17:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> I count 4 connections now
17:17:47  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm
17:17:53  <PublicServer> <mfb> two go to the same ML
17:18:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:18:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> 5->5 missing
17:18:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but nothing really goes to the 5th to sawmill
17:18:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> and connection of the 5->3 end
17:18:58  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1234 -> 5 are also missing
17:19:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> 5.->5. done
17:21:50  <PublicServer> <mfb> :D
17:22:02  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ugly
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17:23:11  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna sign it or not?
17:23:45  <PublicServer> <mfb> sign :p
17:23:52  <PublicServer> <mfb> remove your name if you like
17:23:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why my name first?
17:24:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> you did the tricky part
17:24:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> some indstries really need to die
17:24:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> so many trains want to go to ML1
17:24:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> place some reversed pbs?
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17:27:20  <Patrickov> !password
17:27:20  <PublicServer> Patrickov: jumper
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17:27:42  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets blow it up
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17:29:54  <PublicServer> <mfb> again, only one corner left
17:30:14  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but also that corner has 3R on inner
17:30:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> just lower traffic there
17:30:40  <PublicServer> <mfb> and it works
17:30:59  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> raize traincap and break stress network?
17:31:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> theos: the wood train had a twoway there
17:31:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed it now
17:31:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> no serious jams visible...
17:31:44  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> or we reorg some trains?  seems some pri got too many trains while others don't have enough
17:32:06  <mfb-> does not exclude each other
17:32:25  <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1401
17:34:31  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1401 a special number?
17:35:01  <mfb-> just 1 more than 1400 ;)
17:35:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> time to break SLH01 again :)
17:35:34  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Besides don't forget we have 10 sample trains or so
17:35:48  <PublicServer> <mfb> there are no special train numbers at all
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17:35:58  <PublicServer> <mfb> so the train yard and so on does not matter
17:36:02  <mfb-> except for
17:36:05  <mfb-> @records
17:36:05  <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2553 (PSG#201) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) 
17:36:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we can beat PSG201
17:36:41  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2522 trains
17:36:58  <mfb-> if we beat the one record, the other one is really close
17:37:54  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ML 5 is broken
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17:38:10  <PublicServer> <mfb> why did he train stop?
17:38:12  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nvm someone stopped train on the ML
17:38:20  <PublicServer> <mfb> "ok"
17:38:38  <PublicServer> <mfb> double bridge :/
17:39:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> bad style now
17:39:35  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> which one is in bad style?
17:39:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> the triple bridge
17:40:07  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gap :)
17:40:07  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I saw a quad
17:40:23  <PublicServer> <mfb> not the fact "triple bridge" itself
17:40:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> but the gap I made
17:41:01  <PublicServer> <mfb> fine
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17:41:39  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this network is so ugly
17:41:41  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Someone stopped train 1288 and it jammed out  I hope it was not me
17:42:07  <PublicServer> <mfb> what do you expect..
17:42:15  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm wait
17:42:19  <PublicServer> <mfb> PZ05 was 512x512?
17:42:25  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes
17:42:35  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Actually if the factories' outgoing lines are modelled like the steel corner
17:42:41  <PublicServer> <mfb> so our train density is already twice the old record?
17:42:45  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> It *might* look better :P
17:42:57  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but they used TL3
17:43:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> ok
17:43:10  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and lev 4
17:43:18  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> EVIL! lvl 4
17:43:25  <PublicServer> <mfb> ;)
17:44:11  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> BTW the Aberffraw sideline (SLH01)  is so loaded that it could become an ML itself
17:44:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> just a full SL
17:44:34  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we could make a 5th there
17:44:37  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Very, very full
17:44:45  <V453000> the difference between a ML and SL isnt just traffic but the systematic usage
17:44:58  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Yeah I know, just joking around
17:45:23  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> But definitely need too add trains to that branch
17:45:37  <PublicServer> <mfb> (?)
17:45:51  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> The farms' cargo stack
17:45:57  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> So is the coal mine
17:46:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> hm
17:46:13  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH10 is full, too
17:46:45  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> They actually serve the same SL
17:46:51  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make a 5th ML so the join doesnt jam
17:46:56  <PublicServer> <mfb> but how to change that?
17:47:08  <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH on the outer ring is madness
17:47:16  <PublicServer> <mfb> except in the east
17:47:27  <PublicServer> <mfb> so move traffic from 10 to east
17:47:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> from 01 to 10
17:47:35  <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. that could work
17:49:32  <V453000> or double a SLH
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17:49:39  <V453000> which might be more reasonable
17:49:53  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I don't think connecting BBH 02 helps
17:50:24  <PublicServer> <mfb> not for the other stuff
17:50:31  <PublicServer> <mfb> but it helps the flow here
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17:56:20  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> finally. dinner
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18:00:24  <hylje> !password
18:00:24  <PublicServer> hylje: chutes
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18:01:10  <PublicServer> <hylje> wat up mang
18:01:17  <PublicServer> <mfb> more mess :D
18:01:49  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I suggest obliterating the town at SL1
18:01:55  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> SLH01 I mean
18:02:09  <PublicServer> <mfb> will have to die, yes
18:02:44  <PublicServer> <mfb> stupid statue
18:03:00  <PublicServer> <mfb> that is enough
18:03:22  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Sleep now, 2am here
18:03:28  <PublicServer> <mfb> good night
18:03:36  <PublicServer> <Patrickov> bye
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18:11:32  <PublicServer> <hylje> also, heh 5th rail
18:11:55  <PublicServer> <hylje> and yet some ML quarters are still 3-rail
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18:14:02  <hylje> !password
18:14:02  <PublicServer> hylje: tilled
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18:14:46  <PublicServer> <hylje> i think some hubs could use rebuilding to make them seem less like clusterfucks
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18:19:32  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so what did i miss?
18:19:36  <PublicServer> <hylje> i dunno
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18:22:56  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hylje: you mean rebuild BBH01 outer with that last comment
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18:23:35  <imus> !password
18:23:35  <PublicServer> imus: navies
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18:23:57  <PublicServer> <imus> hi
18:24:03  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello?
18:24:14  <PublicServer> <imus> ? <- ?
18:24:26  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no typo
18:24:32  <PublicServer> <imus> ^^
18:24:38  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thinking of a question and then it happend
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18:37:09  <PublicServer> JK_: straws
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18:45:35  <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke time to go. cya ppl
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18:45:45  <PublicServer> <imus> cya
18:45:47  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu
18:46:17  <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'm off as well - cu
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18:46:21  <PublicServer> <imus> cu
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18:46:52  <PublicServer> <hylje> mm bbh3 isn't managing too well
18:47:10  <PublicServer> <imus> inner or outer?
18:47:22  <PublicServer> <hylje> inner->outer is 3 rails
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19:00:03  <PublicServer> <mfb> 6.? @03
19:00:39  <PublicServer> <hylje> rebuilding the join for 4 rails
19:00:45  <PublicServer> <hylje> and a whole lot of balancing
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19:02:51  <PublicServer> <hylje> ugh looks like building a join a bit further back is needed
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19:10:24  <PublicServer> <imus> who's building at BBH 03 outer?
19:10:26  <PublicServer> <hylje> me
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19:39:25  <Tray> !password
19:39:25  <PublicServer> Tray: debris
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19:53:43  <imus> !password
19:53:44  <PublicServer> imus: debtor
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20:02:52  <imus> internet connection can't handle it :(
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20:04:14  <Dilandau> :(
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20:11:32  <V453000> ooh hylje making stuff actually look like less-of-a-shitstorm :D
20:15:49  <Dilandau> try the server TTFF Coop :p (v1.1.2 :p) i try to fix each problem ^^
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20:28:16  <Sleeeper> !password
20:28:17  <PublicServer> Sleeeper: drones
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20:29:45  <V453000> !password
20:29:45  <PublicServer> V453000: drones
20:29:56  <PublicServer> <V453000> hi
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20:30:08  <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> hi
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20:47:25  <imus> !password
20:47:25  <PublicServer> imus: salved
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21:22:52  <Dilandau> !screen
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21:36:05  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> imus ? work in progress ?
21:36:15  <PublicServer> <imus> not really
21:36:29  <PublicServer> <imus> looking at bbh 01 outer
21:36:39  <PublicServer> <imus> but don't see how to solve it there
21:37:03  <PublicServer> <imus> left most line is over capacity, right most line is almost empty
21:37:25  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> yes
21:37:45  <PublicServer> <Dilandau> but i  leave ^^ good night ;)
21:37:59  <PublicServer> <imus> k
21:38:02  <PublicServer> <imus> gn :)
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21:40:21  <PublicServer> <imus> anyone else here?
21:41:53  <mibbit_derp> is there any particular reason that the server is using an apparently impossible-to-find grf
21:42:08  <imus> Idonno
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21:42:16  <planetmaker> every newgrf is in either the grfpack or on bananas
21:42:29  <planetmaker> other NewGRFs are not used
21:42:39  <mibbit_derp> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=46765&view=next
21:42:40  <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Where to find graphics some servers use? (at www.tt-forums.net)
21:42:47  <planetmaker> !grf
21:42:47  <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0)
21:43:01  <V453000> lol
21:43:22  <mibbit_derp> it would be nice if that was made more obvious somewhere
21:43:29  <planetmaker> @quickstart
21:43:30  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
21:43:30  <V453000> see topic
21:43:32  <planetmaker> ^ read
21:43:34  <V453000> yes ^
21:43:39  <mibbit_derp> on the internet, not in the chat. :|
21:43:48  <V453000> that is all on the internet
21:43:52  <V453000> just see our wiki
21:43:54  <planetmaker> ^^
21:44:14  <planetmaker> the quickstart page is just a wiki page which one finds when looking for the public server
21:44:40  <planetmaker> also... without this IRC channel the PublicServer cannot be accessed anyway
21:44:52  <V453000> hehe fair point :)
21:45:30  <planetmaker> but how or where do you suggest it should be made more explicit / more verbose / whatever, mibbit_derp?
21:46:13  <mibbit_derp> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Public_Server
21:46:49  <mibbit_derp> the way "Quickstart" is thrown around it feels more like a "how to get openttd and basic strucutres" guide than what it really is
21:47:41  <mibbit_derp> the GRF mention is literally just a small bullet point in the middle of some other wall of text
21:48:04  <mibbit_derp> and considering that it cannot be downloaded in-game and pretty much googling any part of it results in complete failure to find it, it should really be made a little more obvious...
21:48:28  <planetmaker> fair enough
21:50:22  <mibbit_derp> though a better solution might be to upload the missing grfs to the content server, haha.
21:50:23  <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf)
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21:51:10  <KenjiE20> which grf is impossible to find btw?
21:51:30  <mibbit_derp> The new company colors one.
21:52:00  <mibbit_derp> http://www.google.com/search?q=AFF1124BD0B36FC6B875AF4226BF96AF&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
21:52:01  <Webster> Title: AFF1124BD0B36FC6B875AF4226BF96AF - Google-Suche (at www.google.com)
21:52:06  <KenjiE20> it's in the grf pack
21:52:06  <mibbit_derp> Google search for the MD5 of it
21:52:11  <KenjiE20> which is noted on the QS
21:52:21  <mibbit_derp> ...see the stuff I just said above.
21:52:49  <KenjiE20> so how would that be improved?
21:52:51  <mibbit_derp> It's entirely easy to miss because all but two of the GRFs can be downloaded in-game and one of those two is easily found by searching for the id.
21:53:00  <KenjiE20> grf really is just one thing in a list of things needed for this server
21:53:44  <imus> last time i reïnstalled the game i couldn't find 4 so we improved =D
21:53:53  <mibbit_derp> \:|
21:54:11  <KenjiE20> the coop grfpack wasn't ever really optional, more mandatory for PS access
21:54:20  <Vinnie_nl> try downloading the old grf pack to7.4 iirc
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21:57:43  <mibbit_derp> though perhaps a better question is why the game is password protected instead of just the company /:|
21:57:59  <KenjiE20> because company password is new
21:58:09  <KenjiE20> and we've been at this a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time
21:58:19  <KenjiE20> so that's the method we use still
21:58:31  <^Spike^> other explenation: To protect the game from ppl messing around who are not in this channel
21:58:52  <mibbit_derp> ...how would you need to protect yourself from <spectators>?
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22:01:33  <mibbit_derp> !password
22:01:33  <PublicServer> mibbit_derp: Please, read the rules!
22:01:42  <mibbit_derp> oh for fuck's sake.
22:01:50  <imus> =D
22:01:54  <KenjiE20> xD
22:02:11  <imus> epic ... just epic =D
22:02:34  <mibbit_derp> There really comes a point where the amount of bullshit you have to go through to get onto a server outweighs any possible benefit of actually succeeding.
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22:02:50  <V453000> everyone else succeeded so far
22:02:57  <V453000> you will be the first who fails it seems
22:02:57  <^Spike^> seems you didn't read the @@quickstart there
22:02:58  <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart
22:03:13  <V453000> because yes, SORRY, we demand someone to actually read something to get somewhere
22:03:17  <KenjiE20> V: I think there was one other
22:03:20  <V453000> how terrible we are
22:03:26  <V453000> was there? :o
22:04:14  <mibbit_derp> From that exact fucking page:
22:04:14  <mibbit_derp>     On connection to the server, you can join as a regular player, or as a spectator (recommended if you're brand new to coop). Both options will prompt you for a password. Use !password in IRC to get the password you need in order to join our server.
22:04:18  <mfb-> outweighs any possible benefit of actually succeeding. <- how do you know? ;)
22:04:26  <mibbit_derp> from your rules page:
22:04:26  <mibbit_derp> The password for the Public Server is available only from IRC. You can query the password easily via an IRC command at any time.
22:04:42  <mfb-> I read the rules once and play for nearly a year on the servers here
22:04:44  <mfb-> nice ratio
22:04:45  <V453000> @kick mibbit_derp that page isnt too fucking
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22:04:59  <V453000> retarded fuck
22:05:03  <KenjiE20> also from the rules page: For the same reason in order to make communication easier: choose the  same (or at least a recognisably similar) ingame name as your IRC nick.
22:05:04  <KenjiE20> oh
22:05:04  <imus> lol =D
22:05:05  <KenjiE20> nvm
22:05:16  <V453000> some people are just incredible
22:05:27  <imus> and you got a short temper :p
22:05:32  <^Spike^> ^^
22:05:44  <imus> but true, he was anoying
22:05:45  <V453000> if their attitude is as it was, yes I do
22:05:56  <KenjiE20> to be fair
22:06:03  <KenjiE20> I was going to if he swore again
22:06:09  <imus> hehe
22:06:28  <V453000> I bet this person wouldnt be of any use for us anyway
22:06:30  <imus> note to self: be nice to the awesome guys with an @ in front of their name
22:06:33  <V453000> and would get banned sooner or later
22:06:38  <KenjiE20> I mean there's the odd cuss around here, and we all look the other way, but that was getting to the line
22:06:45  <V453000> imus: normal people are usually nice ;)
22:06:50  <imus> ^^
22:07:04  <KenjiE20> If he couldn't read the QS for the grfs, I doubt he'd read the building guidelines either
22:07:14  <imus> well, I noticed in other online games with a chat that some people don't like me either XD
22:07:16  <KenjiE20> so yeah, he'd probably have gotten kicked
22:07:24  <imus> agreed
22:07:44  <V453000> quite so
22:08:17  <V453000> and when I look back how I read the wiki for weeks until I actually joined the server to even spectate, this was exact counterpart
22:08:28  <imus> XD
22:08:31  <V453000> he didnt even know why to join
22:08:43  <V453000> if he tells us his awesome effort outweighs the gain
22:08:47  <KenjiE20> heh, I lurked for a good year before joining
22:09:07  <imus> well, i didn't really read the wiki completely before spectating either ... but I did before touching anything :)
22:09:36  <planetmaker> he was totally right
22:09:39  <^Spike^> tbh i only read rules/build stuff sometimes... :)
22:09:47  <planetmaker> the grfpack hint was very hidden...
22:09:52  <^Spike^> not even completely.. i still turned out fine :D
22:09:55  <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart#Getting_In_Game <-- reworked
22:09:57  <KenjiE20> hehe
22:10:04  <planetmaker> and he was actually friendly... :-(
22:10:37  <theos> oh lol at that guy
22:10:53  <planetmaker> and took great pains to explain where he was missing stuff. That should be valued
22:11:41  <imus> then again, he had "derp" in his name ...
22:11:55  <KenjiE20> true, but the atitude "I'm always correct, everyone else should adapt" isn't so nice
22:12:18  <planetmaker> did he say so?
22:12:23  <KenjiE20> he implied so
22:12:34  <KenjiE20> imo
22:12:59  <imus> conclusion of the kick: V should try not to get anoyed so easily, and he MIGHT have deserved it =D
22:13:00  <planetmaker> well... he carefully pointed out where he searched and where he didn't find it...
22:13:14  <planetmaker> which is actually quite a bit of efford to do, to properly report such things
22:13:23  <planetmaker> most people don't bother to rise it in a sensible way
22:14:00  <planetmaker> and "always being right" - I know a lot of people with a @ in this channel... who think of themselves this way, too (me including)
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22:14:44  <imus> hmm, maybe but you didn't get the @ with being wrong a lot .... so it might actually be true ^^
22:15:06  <planetmaker> I got it for writing blog articles
22:15:23  <imus> =)
22:16:00  <imus> anyone got a good idea for BBH 01 outer btw?
22:16:28  <Vinnie_nl> imus rebuild it
22:16:53  <imus> but I donno how to build a good bbh (yet) :s
22:16:57  <imus> + game is paused
22:17:07  <Vinnie_nl> lucky for you it is only a merge :)
22:17:29  <imus> why do you think i don't know how to build a bbh?
22:17:33  <imus> -._
22:17:36  <imus> -.-
22:18:06  <Vinnie_nl> you said you dont know how to build one
22:19:14  <imus> What I mean is: I can't build a bbh because I don't know how to start at building a merger .... saying "it's only a merge" doesn't actually help me here now does it? :p
22:19:45  <planetmaker> look how other merges are built
22:19:56  <planetmaker> there's dozens of options
22:20:00  <Vinnie_nl> all dirty ones in this psg
22:20:06  <planetmaker> :-)
22:20:12  <planetmaker> Then there's blog and wiki
22:20:37  <imus> I've been looking at wiki earlier this week to try one in a SP game
22:20:42  <imus> but failed :(
22:20:43  <Vinnie_nl> serch wiki for blancing helped me a lot for this psg
22:21:34  <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/
22:21:57  <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/10/05/joining-merging-balancing-chosing/
22:24:04  <mfb-> yeah, just build it like the merger in the north-east...... NOT!
22:24:23  <^Spike^> and the best option: Be creative!
22:24:27  <mfb-> but 5+4+3->5 is quite nice
22:24:33  <planetmaker> hm...
22:26:21  <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2008/03/23/main-line-mergers/
22:26:35  <planetmaker> ^ I knew I wrote a treatise on that once ;-)
22:34:00  <planetmaker> good night
22:34:06  <imus> gn
22:41:59  <Vinnie_nl> imus i dont know if you have read it but this gave me some ideas of some mergers in the game
22:42:00  <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Balancing
22:42:14  <imus> i did read it ^^
22:42:23  <Vinnie_nl> mostly the 2+ 2 > 2 join
22:42:50  <Vinnie_nl> then think out of the box and you can use it for 5 + 4 > 5 merge
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22:44:58  <imus> was actually thinking that switching the leftmost lane coming from the BBH 01 inner to the right might solve most of the problem
22:49:26  <Vinnie_nl> gn
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22:49:32  <PublicServer> <imus> gn
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23:00:26  <imus> I'm off as well
23:00:27  <imus> cya
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