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<PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000C87D: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000C87D.png 08:12:25 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hello 08:12:31 <PublicServer> <makjes> hi 08:14:40 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 08:14:54 <V453000> !password 08:14:55 <PublicServer> V453000: lawful 08:15:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 08:15:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 08:15:10 <PublicServer> <makjes> hi 08:15:10 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi V 08:16:46 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 08:22:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00004DD8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00004DD8.png 08:22:47 <Vinnie_nl> !password 08:22:47 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: loping 08:23:03 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 08:23:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> goodmorning all 08:23:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 08:23:16 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 08:25:40 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> mornin 08:25:48 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has joined company #1 08:37:47 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BD77: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BD77.png 08:37:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> has each town got a statue now? 08:38:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> blame Sleeper 08:39:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> one more industry of SLH01. the exit ocasionally jams the ML 08:39:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 08:42:00 <hylje> !password 08:42:00 <PublicServer> hylje: fibber 08:42:09 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 08:42:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> coming for a madness breakfast? :P hi 08:43:01 <PublicServer> <hylje> i already ate the madness 08:45:18 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> bye 08:45:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 08:45:24 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 08:45:26 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 08:47:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh important missing exit 08:49:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> k SLH 01 should work now 08:51:42 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:51:45 <V453000> later 08:51:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 08:52:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000324: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000324.png 08:53:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> damn map end 08:54:21 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:57:37 <PublicServer> <hylje> oh i improved bbh4 08:58:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> inner or outer? 08:58:05 <PublicServer> <hylje> o 09:03:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I did it :) 09:05:07 <Tray> !password 09:05:07 <PublicServer> Tray: damped 09:05:20 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 09:07:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000222: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000222.png 09:11:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya later today ppl 09:11:18 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 09:11:22 <PublicServer> <hylje> cya 09:22:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007C58: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007C58.png 09:23:10 *** imus has joined #openttdcoop 09:23:17 <imus> !players 09:23:20 <PublicServer> imus: Client 699 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Baker & Co.) 09:23:20 <PublicServer> imus: Client 75 is hnrgrgr, a spectator 09:23:20 <PublicServer> imus: Client 676 (Orange) is makjes, in company 1 (Baker & Co.) 09:23:20 <PublicServer> imus: Client 682 (Orange) is TWerkhoven, in company 1 (Baker & Co.) 09:23:20 <PublicServer> imus: Client 693 (Orange) is hylje, in company 1 (Baker & Co.) 09:24:13 <imus> !password 09:24:13 <PublicServer> imus: tempos 09:24:24 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 09:24:28 <PublicServer> <imus> hi 09:24:38 <PublicServer> <makjes> hi 09:28:10 <LXSJason> !password 09:28:10 <PublicServer> LXSJason: tempos 09:28:32 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason joined the game 09:29:05 <PublicServer> *** LXSJason has left the game (leaving) 09:31:27 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (leaving) 09:31:59 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 09:32:10 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 09:33:42 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 09:34:17 <imus> !password 09:34:17 <PublicServer> imus: tempos 09:34:17 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 09:34:23 <Maraxus> !password 09:34:23 <PublicServer> Maraxus: tempos 09:34:31 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 09:34:39 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 09:35:15 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> Hi 09:37:48 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BE7E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BE7E.png 09:39:18 *** Ryton has joined #openttdcoop 09:43:32 <PublicServer> <imus> anything left to do? 09:50:07 <imus> !gap 7 09:50:07 <PublicServer> imus: !gap <trainlength> <gap>: Returns amount of tunnels/bridges needed. Formula: (<gap>+<trainlength>-2)/(<trainlength>+2) 09:50:18 <imus> !gap 2 7 09:50:19 <PublicServer> imus: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 7. 09:52:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EB6C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EB6C.png 09:55:19 <imus> !gap 2 8 09:55:19 <PublicServer> imus: You need 2 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 2 and gap 8. 10:03:39 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:07:43 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 10:07:48 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> arr 10:07:49 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000084C7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000084C7.png 10:07:56 <PublicServer> <imus> hi 10:08:10 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 10:08:14 <hylje> heya 10:09:03 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> hylje: you have actually put some time into a game again :) 10:10:37 <PublicServer> <imus> lunch time 10:10:37 <PublicServer> <imus> cya 10:10:44 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (leaving) 10:10:50 *** imus has quit IRC 10:12:25 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 10:12:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 10:14:03 <PublicServer> *** makjes has left the game (leaving) 10:22:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EC62: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EC62.png 10:25:01 *** Sleeeper has joined #openttdcoop 10:25:46 <Sleeeper> !password 10:25:47 <PublicServer> Sleeeper: totems 10:25:57 <PublicServer> *** Sleeeper joined the game 10:28:38 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> ouch. trains limit 10:30:26 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> Sleeeper: can you not fund town statues anymore in the future? 10:30:36 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> ok :( 10:32:38 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> good :) 10:32:40 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> but why? 10:32:56 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 10:32:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:33:08 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> because we cant remove them 10:33:58 <V453000> and there is no reason to build them either 10:34:29 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> they make maximum output to 99% instead of 75% from factories 10:35:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> their benefit does not outweigh the cost of not being able to remove them 10:36:05 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> this game is a perfect example, there are quite a few towns that the ML runs through, and now there is one building we can not remove 10:36:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> and the worst part of it is that it is player constructed 10:36:59 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> i see 10:37:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000522F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000522F.png 10:38:46 <V453000> well simply put, you can always add more primaries 10:38:50 <V453000> and get more cargo 10:38:54 <V453000> so some % isnt that important 10:39:36 *** Fuco_ is now known as Fuco 10:40:13 <Fuco> !dl win64 10:40:13 <PublicServer> Fuco: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win64.zip 10:40:18 <PublicServer> *** Spike joined the game 10:40:19 <pugi> !password 10:40:19 <PublicServer> pugi: genres 10:40:32 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 10:41:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh noes 10:41:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> the ore mine i connected is gone :( 10:41:43 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo joined the game 10:41:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm 10:42:09 <PublicServer> *** Fucoo has changed his/her name to Fuuco 10:42:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> i can't rebuild a ore mine there, can i? 10:42:14 *** Dilandau has joined #openttdcoop 10:42:19 <Dilandau> !password 10:42:19 <PublicServer> Dilandau: genres 10:42:33 <PublicServer> <Fuuco> TL2 game, haven't seen that in a while 10:42:34 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 10:42:37 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> no, its prospecting only 10:42:47 <PublicServer> <TWerkhoven> so it would just pop up at a random place 10:42:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> i noticed :D 10:43:03 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 10:43:29 <V453000> I can allow it if you want 10:43:35 <V453000> funding 10:43:45 <V453000> if you need to bring a mine back to life 10:43:47 <PublicServer> <pugi> i already deleted the trains :D 10:43:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> but the station is still there... 10:44:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> and we are at train limit 10:45:19 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> don't worry, i'm removing some 10:45:28 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 10:45:34 <pugi> i'm off to lunch now anyways 10:46:33 <V453000> removing trains? :o 10:49:26 <PublicServer> *** Fuuco has left the game (leaving) 10:49:35 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 10:52:32 *** imus has joined #openttdcoop 10:52:37 <imus> !password 10:52:37 <PublicServer> imus: zebras 10:52:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CB52: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000CB52.png 10:53:14 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 10:53:37 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 10:55:54 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 10:57:13 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 10:57:18 *** makjes has quit IRC 11:03:04 *** Tray has quit IRC 11:04:18 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(number of players) 11:57:21 <PublicServer> *** Sleeeper has joined spectators 11:59:53 <PublicServer> *** Sleeeper has left the game (leaving) 12:07:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BA66: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BA66.png 12:10:02 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has joined company #1 12:12:47 *** Sleeeper has quit IRC 12:16:44 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 12:20:26 *** cakemasher has joined #openttdcoop 12:20:33 <cakemasher> hey? 12:20:34 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 12:20:46 <planetmaker> ho! 12:20:58 <cakemasher> :P 12:21:03 <Dilandau> hi 12:21:28 <cakemasher> i'm searching for an wiki page or somthing like that with technical information on how to connect to a openttd server and send rcon commands to it 12:21:34 <cakemasher> without using the openttd client.. 12:21:48 <cakemasher> is there a webpage that explains this?? 12:22:01 <planetmaker> autopilot may help 12:22:09 <cakemasher> hmm 12:22:18 <hylje> i think we use autopilot to run openttd on irc 12:22:23 <cakemasher> been searching for a while on the website :P 12:22:29 <cakemasher> is autopilot open source? 12:22:31 <planetmaker> or start it in an xterm, probably using screen. Then you can ssh and can type directly in the server 12:22:41 <cakemasher> well, the problem is.. 12:22:46 <cakemasher> i'm making my own application 12:22:56 <hylje> planetmaker: ssh-screen-stuff sounds pretty awful to script into an API 12:23:02 <cakemasher> when i send something to the server, it will give me errors 12:23:09 <planetmaker> hylje: the API is the admin interface. 12:23:15 <planetmaker> which ap+ also doesn't use 12:23:30 <hylje> so there's that 12:23:35 <planetmaker> if you anyway write your own, cakemasher, then use the admin interface 12:23:40 <cakemasher> dbg: [net] [udp] received illegal pakcet from 127.0.0.1:61405 (IPv4) 12:23:57 <planetmaker> well. send proper packets ;-) 12:24:01 <cakemasher> yeah 12:24:08 <hylje> packet crafting is an art 12:24:11 <cakemasher> i dont know the proper packets.. i cant find any wiki page for it =[ 12:24:17 <planetmaker> there isn't. 12:24:22 <cakemasher> =[ 12:24:30 <hylje> there should be network protocol documentation in openttd code 12:24:41 <cakemasher> yeah, searched for it.. 12:24:41 <planetmaker> you can either spy on one of the two existing libraries to connect to. And / or read openttd's network code 12:24:46 <cakemasher> but dint get any wiser.. 12:24:48 <planetmaker> it has elaborate doxygen, but still 12:25:55 <Paul2> !version 12:25:55 <PublicServer> Paul2: Autopilot AP+ 4.0 Beta (r99.422ef4e8cbe1) 12:26:01 <Paul2> @version 12:26:01 <planetmaker> well, what language do you use, cakemasher? 12:26:02 <Webster> Paul2: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1. 12:26:07 <cakemasher> PHP.. =] 12:26:08 <planetmaker> !revision 12:26:09 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Game version is r22950 12:26:14 <Paul2> thanks ;) 12:26:34 <planetmaker> you could simply use !dl 12:26:55 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 12:27:19 <cakemasher> i'm sending packets like..: chr ( strlen ($cmd) + strlen ($rconPass) + 5) . chr (0) . chr (31) . $rconPass . chr (0) . $command . chr (0) 12:27:27 <Paul2> !dl win32 12:27:27 <PublicServer> Paul2: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r22950/openttd-trunk-r22950-windows-win32.zip 12:27:29 <Paul2> true :) 12:29:21 <planetmaker> cakemasher: rcon password is NOT the password for the admin port 12:29:52 <hylje> planetmaker: the error message in console should be more specific if openttd did parse the packet, but did not authenticate 12:29:55 <cakemasher> hmm, but i dont get an error on the password.. i get the error of sending an illigal package 12:30:56 <Paul2> hmm. newgrf isn't icking up the files I need. Wonder why? 12:31:05 <hylje> Paul2: do you have the grf pack 12:31:07 <Dilandau> !grf 12:31:07 <PublicServer> Dilandau: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 12:31:14 <Paul2> oh whoops 12:31:17 <Paul2> I was being stupid :) 12:31:22 <cakemasher> ^^ 12:31:32 <Paul2> !password 12:31:32 <PublicServer> Paul2: burped 12:31:40 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:31:40 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:31:42 <PublicServer> *** Twigman joined the game 12:31:44 <Paul2> :) 12:31:48 <planetmaker> there's a separate admin_password 12:32:08 <cakemasher> do you need that to send a rcon command to the server? 12:32:23 <planetmaker> and the default admin_port is definitely not 61... but 3977 12:32:36 <planetmaker> cakemasher: the admin port has nothing to do with rcon... 12:33:11 <planetmaker> at least not in the first place 12:33:59 <Vinnie_nl> !password 12:33:59 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: burped 12:34:06 <cakemasher> 127.0.0.1:61405, 61405 is the port that the client uses to connect to the server.. 12:34:19 <planetmaker> yes, and? 12:34:21 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 12:34:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 12:34:28 <PublicServer> <Twigman> hello 12:34:30 <planetmaker> client and admin-access is entirely different things 12:34:34 <cakemasher> the php script is connecting to 127.0.0.1:3979 12:34:47 <Vinnie_nl> nice local machine 12:34:49 <cakemasher> i know, but what i need, is to send a rcon command to the server.. 12:34:55 <cakemasher> test machine ;) 12:35:00 <planetmaker> cakemasher: no, you don't. 12:35:06 <planetmaker> You need to send the proper admin command 12:35:18 <cakemasher> hmm 12:35:19 <planetmaker> which is not rcon. But can have the same effect 12:35:36 <cakemasher> i've read somthing about that 12:35:37 <cakemasher> 1 sec.. 12:35:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm complete east is getting full 12:36:11 <planetmaker> did you at least read docs/admin_network.txt ? 12:36:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anyone care to help me expand? 12:36:36 * planetmaker stretches Vinnie_nl 12:36:41 <planetmaker> fell expanded now? 12:36:46 <planetmaker> *feel 12:37:02 <planetmaker> scnr ;-) 12:37:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah it helps 12:37:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B967: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B967.png 12:38:38 <cakemasher> hmm 12:38:48 <cakemasher> admin_network.txt says you what to send 12:38:57 <cakemasher> but not the technical part of it 12:39:02 <cakemasher> " To authenticate send a ADMIN_PACKET_ADMIN_JOIN packet." 12:39:14 <hylje> packets are all defined in openttd code 12:39:19 <cakemasher> hmm 12:39:23 <cakemasher> tcp_admin.h? 12:39:33 <hylje> sounds like a good place to start 15:11:19 *** Webster has joined #openttdcoop 15:11:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Webster 15:11:33 *** tneo has joined #openttdcoop 15:11:33 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tneo 15:11:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> you mean exit? 15:11:59 *** Terkhen has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 15:12:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> k 15:12:20 *** XeryusTC2 has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:29 *** V453000 has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:29 *** Osai has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o V453000 15:12:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what happens on irc with the massive join of people 15:12:57 <mfb-> haydn is back 15:12:59 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop 15:12:59 *** avdg has joined #openttdcoop 15:13:29 *** DJNekkid has joined #openttdcoop 15:13:39 <^ekipS^> more: WE FIXED ZE PROBLEM! 15:13:45 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has joined company #1 15:13:52 <^ekipS^> or well... haydn itself did the most work... 15:14:03 <^ekipS^> we just trembled in fear no data loss is there 15:14:05 <planetmaker> except as in 502 ;-) 15:14:05 <^ekipS^> :) 15:14:16 <^ekipS^> it's still starting all shit up :) 15:14:38 <^Spike^> what am i doing there.. while i can do it here aswell 15:14:42 *** ^ekipS^ has quit IRC 15:14:48 <^Spike^> much easier :) 15:15:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, temp is jamming 15:15:30 *** planetmaker has quit IRC 15:15:30 *** planetma- is now known as planetmaker 15:15:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2 temp 15:16:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> temp1 works 15:17:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> factory drop... 15:17:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> picjup is nearly done 15:17:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we make this game so ugly 15:18:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Its finally dead. damn iron mine 15:18:03 <Webster> Latest update from dznews: OpenGFX - OpenGFX 0.3.6 released <http://dev.openttdcoop.org/news/58> 15:18:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> which one? 15:18:27 <Webster> Latest update from blog: PSG #214: New client record <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/11/psg-214-new-client-record/> || Back to the Basics (Signals How,What,When and even Where) <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/09/10/back-to-the-basics-signals-howwhatwhen-and-even-where/> || More time lapses <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/31/more-timelapses/> || Rivers during map generation <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/20/rivers-during-map-generation/> || OpenTTD time lapse <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/08/01/openttd-time-lapse/> || Copyright and licenses: permission to … what actually? <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/07/16/copyright-and-licenses-permission-to-what-actually/> || Advanced Building Revue 10: Invisible Hubs <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/06/02/advanced-building-revue-10-invisible-hubs/> || New Member: mfb <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/05/03/new-member-mfb/> || New member: Sylf <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/04/09/new-member-sylf/> || Advanced Building Revue 09: Self Regulating Stations <http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2011/01/21/advanced-building-revue-09-self-regulating-stations/> 15:18:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah that 15:18:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice timing 15:18:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> next to the factory drop 15:19:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> 5th there? 15:19:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> extra row is most easy i guess 15:19:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 15:19:41 *** perk11 has quit IRC 15:19:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> no idea how to get that out/in 15:19:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> I would begin at the other end 15:19:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i have a little one 15:20:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> idea i mean 15:20:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah ok 15:20:52 <PublicServer> *** makjes has left the game (leaving) 15:20:57 *** makjes has left #openttdcoop 15:22:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> and now? ;) 15:22:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge the ML= 15:22:56 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000AF04: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000AF04.png 15:23:06 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 15:23:14 *** XeryusTC has quit IRC 15:23:20 *** XeryusTC2 is now known as XeryusTC 15:23:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> factory pickup exit ok? 15:23:57 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 15:23:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks good 15:24:07 <Maraxus> !password 15:24:07 <PublicServer> Maraxus: banged 15:24:22 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:24:29 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 15:24:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 15:24:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 15:24:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke lets kill the overflow 15:25:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> pickup exit looks strange now, as it only uses 4 lines 15:25:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> adjust it? 15:26:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> factory exit needs a balancer 15:27:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 15:27:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> a simple one like the spokes? 15:27:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 15:27:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 15:27:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> maybe connect the 5th to all 4 15:28:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> no 15:28:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> see here 15:28:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ke 15:29:17 *** ^Spike^ sets mode: +oo planetmaker XeryusTC 15:31:40 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 15:32:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, better 15:36:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> it works :D 15:37:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EC65: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EC65.png 15:37:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 15:38:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gap to big 15:38:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 15:38:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> still :( 15:39:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> the double tunnel? 15:39:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no the tripple bridge 15:39:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 15:39:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> 4th :D 15:40:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i am not awake :) 15:40:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the factory exit is jamming 15:40:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> wgere? 15:40:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> .. 15:41:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm, a bit 15:41:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> wrong signals 15:41:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> solved 15:41:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shit we are both working 15:42:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> was just the signal I think 15:42:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone made also a combo between the first and second split 15:42:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so they where linked 15:42:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 15:44:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf 15:44:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> factory goods pickup exit 15:44:34 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 15:44:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> been like that for a while 15:44:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> one should join another line 15:46:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> a bit better 15:47:29 *** hanf has quit IRC 15:51:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH 03 Outer 15:52:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> also 5 lines? 15:52:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> the 4 are full 15:52:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000014C2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000014C2.png 15:57:21 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has joined spectators 15:57:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 15:57:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> that will give problems at the BBH 15:57:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> if you make 5 on the outside? 15:57:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> yes 15:58:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> inside is tricky with the SLH 15:58:23 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 15:58:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> *(**)* 16:00:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> :o 16:00:24 <PublicServer> <Theos> ah shit 16:01:36 <PublicServer> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 16:01:55 *** MrD2DG has joined #openttdcoop 16:02:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now outer has no prio 16:02:53 <MrD2DG> !password 16:02:53 <PublicServer> MrD2DG: cloths 16:03:25 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG joined the game 16:03:27 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Hi 16:03:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 16:03:35 <PublicServer> <Theos> yeo 16:03:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 16:04:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nvm then 16:04:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just another ugly flaw in this game :P 16:05:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> we are beyond the point of eyecandy 16:05:33 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :P 16:05:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we in general or us two 16:06:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> the whole map 16:06:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need 2.5k trains 16:06:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like PZ05 16:06:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 16:07:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on 1/4th of the map size :) 16:07:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000043F3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000043F3.png 16:07:59 <mfb-> PZ05 was maglev? 16:08:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 16:08:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> TL3 16:09:27 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> 2.5k :S I cant handle that 16:09:51 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have 1/2 of that now 16:10:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:10:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> the NW-stations might need an expansion 16:10:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i dont like that 16:11:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> and a 4th input line 16:12:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb what was the plan for SLH 07? 16:12:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> the existing one, or one line on the other side 16:12:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> other side 16:17:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now lets see 16:18:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> exit to drops missing 16:18:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> and the BBH 16:18:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah i wanted to do the BBH 16:18:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> may need a rebuild 16:18:48 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has joined company #1 16:20:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, something like ready 16:20:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that just looks evil 16:21:16 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Im doing it 16:21:22 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Oh 1 tile short 16:21:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> ... 16:22:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cheater 16:22:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 16:22:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now its long enough 16:22:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> 07? 16:22:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> was long enough before, too 16:22:43 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> I forgot TL2 16:22:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001EEA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001EEA.png 16:23:13 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Meh, splits closer now anyway 16:23:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> was even closer before 16:24:02 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> It wasnt.. 16:24:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> it was, due to the waiting bay 16:24:18 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> I mean the second split is closer to the first 16:24:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> I know 16:24:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> but with the waiting bay, there was no gap 16:24:48 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Oh 16:24:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> now there is a small one 16:25:04 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Dont remember seeing one, just saw PBS and thought it could be fixed... 16:25:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is pbs-free now, that is true 16:26:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH02 starts to fail aswell 16:26:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Inner that is 16:27:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:27:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> not so bad 16:28:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone made my name look bad 16:28:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 16:28:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> near Llanelli forest there where some wrong tracks 16:28:54 <PublicServer> <Theos> hi :) 16:29:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 16:29:18 <PublicServer> <Theos> sorry v, just fixni that jam back to the ml 16:29:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> that forest has some jams 16:29:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> it worked when there where pre-signals but who made it pbs forgot to remove them 16:29:46 <PublicServer> <Theos> yeah didnt do that 16:30:00 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> Was afk, hi theos 16:31:27 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:31:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:32:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mfb you said rebuild BBH01 or not? 16:34:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> I discussed the idea 16:34:18 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> :P 16:37:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000018A2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000018A2.png 16:38:07 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has joined spectators 16:38:11 <PublicServer> <MrD2DG> afk 16:39:50 <V453000> !password 16:39:50 <PublicServer> V453000: siesta 16:39:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 16:39:58 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 16:40:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 16:40:17 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 16:45:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 16:45:22 <V453000> laters 16:45:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cya 16:45:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> cu 16:45:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> what to break next 16:46:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 16:46:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> you planned to do BBH01 outer? 16:46:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> break/uglify 16:46:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH01 outer is a mess atm 16:46:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> indeed 16:46:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna shut it down complete and then rebuild? 16:47:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 16:47:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need connections in the middle but that is impossible now 16:48:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> or rebuild a part in the sea and replace it 16:48:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 16:48:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> build it in V style again? 16:49:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like all his other BBH merges in this PSG 16:49:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> would look nice 16:49:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> but for 5+4->5... 16:49:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> means outer two lanes have prio and the rest multi to multi 16:51:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but that means each ML should split into 5 lanes :( 16:51:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the tricky part... 16:51:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 7 * 5 = 35 tracks in the center 16:51:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 16:52:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna do it? 16:52:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> 35 lines... 16:52:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> 21 tiles width 16:52:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> looks like a challenge 16:52:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah ofcourse if you split a line later and merge some sooner you can make it happen 16:52:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000041F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000041F4.png 16:53:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you wont need the 35 tiles 16:54:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, 03 outer will work 16:54:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you completed 03? 16:55:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> could be done better, and one connection is missing 16:55:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> but apart from that, yes 16:55:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> 03 inner needs another line then 16:56:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke i dont have the time atm to complete the merger 16:56:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> need about 20 hours 16:56:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 16:57:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, maybe later 16:57:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets adjust the current one to make it more dirty 16:57:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 17:00:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> more connections? :D 17:01:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait 17:01:09 <V453000> if you want a hint then dont merge ring ML at all 17:01:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh 17:01:15 <V453000> and just merge the spoke into it 17:01:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> bridge that 17:01:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 17:02:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sxy 17:02:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sexy 17:02:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now lane 3 17:05:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> crap, missing connection 17:06:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> evil X all the way 17:07:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> where missing connection? 17:07:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> already fixed 17:07:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002484: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002484.png 17:09:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i want that one to be a bridge 17:10:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> pbs 17:10:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 17:12:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 17:13:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> connect to what? 17:13:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3rd ML 17:13:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no connection from 5 to 3rd 17:13:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh oh 17:13:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> so to 5th 17:14:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 17:14:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> I got an idea 17:15:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, another tunnel 17:16:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> crap 17:16:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> even more to lower 17:16:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> better 17:17:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 5th connected to inner 2 lanes? 17:17:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> I count 4 connections now 17:17:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 17:17:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> two go to the same ML 17:18:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 17:18:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> 5->5 missing 17:18:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but nothing really goes to the 5th to sawmill 17:18:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> and connection of the 5->3 end 17:18:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1234 -> 5 are also missing 17:19:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> 5.->5. done 17:21:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 17:22:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ugly 17:22:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001561: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001561.png 17:23:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wanna sign it or not? 17:23:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> sign :p 17:23:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> remove your name if you like 17:23:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why my name first? 17:24:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> you did the tricky part 17:24:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> some indstries really need to die 17:24:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> so many trains want to go to ML1 17:24:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> place some reversed pbs? 17:26:49 *** Patrickov has joined #openttdcoop 17:27:20 <Patrickov> !password 17:27:20 <PublicServer> Patrickov: jumper 17:27:32 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov joined the game 17:27:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> lets blow it up 17:28:42 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has joined company #1 17:29:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> again, only one corner left 17:30:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but also that corner has 3R on inner 17:30:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> just lower traffic there 17:30:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> and it works 17:30:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> raize traincap and break stress network? 17:31:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> theos: the wood train had a twoway there 17:31:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> fixed it now 17:31:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> no serious jams visible... 17:31:44 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> or we reorg some trains? seems some pri got too many trains while others don't have enough 17:32:06 <mfb-> does not exclude each other 17:32:25 <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1401 17:34:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 1401 a special number? 17:35:01 <mfb-> just 1 more than 1400 ;) 17:35:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> time to break SLH01 again :) 17:35:34 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Besides don't forget we have 10 sample trains or so 17:35:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> there are no special train numbers at all 17:35:58 <PublicServer> *** MrD2DG has left the game (leaving) 17:35:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> so the train yard and so on does not matter 17:36:02 <mfb-> except for 17:36:05 <mfb-> @records 17:36:05 <Webster> #openttdcoop Records: Clients: 26 | Trains: 2553 (PSG#201) - 2522 (PZG#5) - ( 3000 (PSG#180) logic net) | Single cargo type output: 200,169 (PZG#13) | World Pop: 6,150,671 (PSG#201) 17:36:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we can beat PSG201 17:36:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 2522 trains 17:36:58 <mfb-> if we beat the one record, the other one is really close 17:37:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ML 5 is broken 17:38:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002440: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002440.png 17:38:10 *** Mucht has joined #openttdcoop 17:38:10 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Mucht 17:38:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> why did he train stop? 17:38:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nvm someone stopped train on the ML 17:38:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> "ok" 17:38:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> double bridge :/ 17:39:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> bad style now 17:39:35 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> which one is in bad style? 17:39:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> the triple bridge 17:40:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> gap :) 17:40:07 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I saw a quad 17:40:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> not the fact "triple bridge" itself 17:40:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> but the gap I made 17:41:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> fine 17:41:11 *** MrD2DG has quit IRC 17:41:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this network is so ugly 17:41:41 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Someone stopped train 1288 and it jammed out I hope it was not me 17:42:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> what do you expect.. 17:42:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm wait 17:42:19 <PublicServer> <mfb> PZ05 was 512x512? 17:42:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 17:42:35 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Actually if the factories' outgoing lines are modelled like the steel corner 17:42:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> so our train density is already twice the old record? 17:42:45 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> It *might* look better :P 17:42:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but they used TL3 17:43:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 17:43:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and lev 4 17:43:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> EVIL! lvl 4 17:43:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> ;) 17:44:11 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> BTW the Aberffraw sideline (SLH01) is so loaded that it could become an ML itself 17:44:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> just a full SL 17:44:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we could make a 5th there 17:44:37 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Very, very full 17:44:45 <V453000> the difference between a ML and SL isnt just traffic but the systematic usage 17:44:58 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Yeah I know, just joking around 17:45:23 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> But definitely need too add trains to that branch 17:45:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> (?) 17:45:51 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> The farms' cargo stack 17:45:57 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> So is the coal mine 17:46:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> hm 17:46:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH10 is full, too 17:46:45 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> They actually serve the same SL 17:46:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> make a 5th ML so the join doesnt jam 17:46:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> but how to change that? 17:47:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH on the outer ring is madness 17:47:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> except in the east 17:47:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> so move traffic from 10 to east 17:47:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> from 01 to 10 17:47:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. that could work 17:49:32 <V453000> or double a SLH 17:49:38 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 17:49:39 <V453000> which might be more reasonable 17:49:53 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I don't think connecting BBH 02 helps 17:50:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> not for the other stuff 17:50:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> but it helps the flow here 17:52:11 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 17:52:56 *** TWerkhoven2 has joined #openttdcoop 17:53:00 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BA34: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BA34.png 17:56:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> finally. dinner 17:56:22 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 17:56:48 <PublicServer> *** Theos has joined spectators 17:56:56 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has joined spectators 17:59:37 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has joined company #1 17:59:40 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 18:00:24 <hylje> !password 18:00:24 <PublicServer> hylje: chutes 18:00:33 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 18:01:10 <PublicServer> <hylje> wat up mang 18:01:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> more mess :D 18:01:49 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> I suggest obliterating the town at SL1 18:01:55 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> SLH01 I mean 18:02:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> will have to die, yes 18:02:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> stupid statue 18:03:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is enough 18:03:22 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> Sleep now, 2am here 18:03:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 18:03:36 <PublicServer> <Patrickov> bye 18:03:38 <PublicServer> *** Patrickov has left the game (leaving) 18:08:01 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000FD54: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000FD54.png 18:08:02 *** Patrickov has quit IRC 18:11:32 <PublicServer> <hylje> also, heh 5th rail 18:11:55 <PublicServer> <hylje> and yet some ML quarters are still 3-rail 18:13:33 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (connection lost) 18:14:02 <hylje> !password 18:14:02 <PublicServer> hylje: tilled 18:14:11 <PublicServer> *** hylje joined the game 18:14:46 <PublicServer> <hylje> i think some hubs could use rebuilding to make them seem less like clusterfucks 18:14:54 <PublicServer> *** mfb has joined spectators 18:19:04 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 18:19:29 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 18:19:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 18:19:32 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so what did i miss? 18:19:36 <PublicServer> <hylje> i dunno 18:22:35 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 18:22:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hylje: you mean rebuild BBH01 outer with that last comment 18:23:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F191: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F191.png 18:23:25 *** imus has joined #openttdcoop 18:23:35 <imus> !password 18:23:35 <PublicServer> imus: navies 18:23:49 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 18:23:57 <PublicServer> <imus> hi 18:24:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello? 18:24:14 <PublicServer> <imus> ? <- ? 18:24:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no typo 18:24:32 <PublicServer> <imus> ^^ 18:24:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thinking of a question and then it happend 18:36:55 *** JK_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:37:08 <JK_> !password 18:37:09 <PublicServer> JK_: straws 18:37:28 <PublicServer> *** JK joined the game 18:38:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EC4B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EC4B.png 18:40:45 <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined spectators 18:41:30 <PublicServer> *** JK has left the game (leaving) 18:41:34 *** JK_ has quit IRC 18:45:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke time to go. cya ppl 18:45:41 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 18:45:45 <PublicServer> <imus> cya 18:45:47 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 18:46:17 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'm off as well - cu 18:46:19 <PublicServer> *** hylje has joined company #1 18:46:21 <PublicServer> <imus> cu 18:46:27 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 18:46:34 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 18:46:52 <PublicServer> <hylje> mm bbh3 isn't managing too well 18:47:10 <PublicServer> <imus> inner or outer? 18:47:22 <PublicServer> <hylje> inner->outer is 3 rails 18:51:15 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 18:53:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BD7E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BD7E.png 19:00:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> 6.? @03 19:00:39 <PublicServer> <hylje> rebuilding the join for 4 rails 19:00:45 <PublicServer> <hylje> and a whole lot of balancing 19:00:51 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 19:02:51 <PublicServer> <hylje> ugh looks like building a join a bit further back is needed 19:08:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000893B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000893B.png 19:10:24 <PublicServer> <imus> who's building at BBH 03 outer? 19:10:26 <PublicServer> <hylje> me 19:23:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009DE9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009DE9.png 19:38:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006BF3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006BF3.png 19:39:25 <Tray> !password 19:39:25 <PublicServer> Tray: debris 19:39:47 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 19:41:34 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 19:41:59 *** Sylf has quit IRC 19:42:12 *** Sylf has joined #openttdcoop 19:42:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Sylf 19:42:27 <PublicServer> *** hylje has left the game (leaving) 19:52:02 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 19:53:08 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000079F2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000079F2.png 19:53:20 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (connection lost) 19:53:43 <imus> !password 19:53:44 <PublicServer> imus: debtor 19:54:03 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 19:56:08 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (connection lost) 19:57:35 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 19:57:35 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:01:14 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:01:14 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:01:14 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 20:01:26 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (connection lost) 20:01:26 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 20:02:52 <imus> internet connection can't handle it :( 20:04:09 *** Firartix has quit IRC 20:04:14 <Dilandau> :( 20:04:30 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 20:05:24 *** imus has quit IRC 20:08:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000077F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000077F4.png 20:09:36 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 20:10:08 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 20:11:32 <V453000> ooh hylje making stuff actually look like less-of-a-shitstorm :D 20:15:49 <Dilandau> try the server TTFF Coop :p (v1.1.2 :p) i try to fix each problem ^^ 20:15:50 *** TWerkhoven2 has quit IRC 20:17:52 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 20:26:02 *** Sleeeper has joined #openttdcoop 20:28:16 <Sleeeper> !password 20:28:17 <PublicServer> Sleeeper: drones 20:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 20:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 20:28:23 <PublicServer> *** Sleeeper joined the game 20:29:45 <V453000> !password 20:29:45 <PublicServer> V453000: drones 20:29:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 20:29:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 20:30:08 <PublicServer> <Sleeeper> hi 20:37:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 20:38:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B867: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B867.png 20:42:06 *** Phoenix_the_II has quit IRC 20:45:52 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:10 *** imus has joined #openttdcoop 20:47:25 <imus> !password 20:47:25 <PublicServer> imus: salved 20:47:40 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 20:48:18 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 20:49:11 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 20:50:38 *** Tray has quit IRC 20:53:09 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000A63B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000A63B.png 20:58:13 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 21:00:12 <PublicServer> *** Sleeeper has left the game (leaving) 21:08:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00006DF0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00006DF0.png 21:18:20 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 21:22:52 <Dilandau> !screen 21:22:53 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau made screenshot at 00007FFA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007FFA.png 21:35:15 *** mibbit_derp has joined #openttdcoop 21:36:05 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> imus ? work in progress ? 21:36:15 <PublicServer> <imus> not really 21:36:29 <PublicServer> <imus> looking at bbh 01 outer 21:36:39 <PublicServer> <imus> but don't see how to solve it there 21:37:03 <PublicServer> <imus> left most line is over capacity, right most line is almost empty 21:37:25 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> yes 21:37:45 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> but i leave ^^ good night ;) 21:37:59 <PublicServer> <imus> k 21:38:02 <PublicServer> <imus> gn :) 21:38:09 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 21:38:09 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:38:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000BEEB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000BEEB.png 21:39:33 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 21:40:21 <PublicServer> <imus> anyone else here? 21:41:53 <mibbit_derp> is there any particular reason that the server is using an apparently impossible-to-find grf 21:42:08 <imus> Idonno 21:42:14 *** Dilandau has quit IRC 21:42:16 <planetmaker> every newgrf is in either the grfpack or on bananas 21:42:29 <planetmaker> other NewGRFs are not used 21:42:39 <mibbit_derp> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=46765&view=next 21:42:40 <Webster> Title: Transport Tycoon Forums View topic - Where to find graphics some servers use? (at www.tt-forums.net) 21:42:47 <planetmaker> !grf 21:42:47 <PublicServer> planetmaker: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/GRF (Version 8.0) 21:43:01 <V453000> lol 21:43:22 <mibbit_derp> it would be nice if that was made more obvious somewhere 21:43:29 <planetmaker> @quickstart 21:43:30 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 21:43:30 <V453000> see topic 21:43:32 <planetmaker> ^ read 21:43:34 <V453000> yes ^ 21:43:39 <mibbit_derp> on the internet, not in the chat. :| 21:43:48 <V453000> that is all on the internet 21:43:52 <V453000> just see our wiki 21:43:54 <planetmaker> ^^ 21:44:14 <planetmaker> the quickstart page is just a wiki page which one finds when looking for the public server 21:44:40 <planetmaker> also... without this IRC channel the PublicServer cannot be accessed anyway 21:44:52 <V453000> hehe fair point :) 21:45:30 <planetmaker> but how or where do you suggest it should be made more explicit / more verbose / whatever, mibbit_derp? 21:46:13 <mibbit_derp> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Public_Server 21:46:49 <mibbit_derp> the way "Quickstart" is thrown around it feels more like a "how to get openttd and basic strucutres" guide than what it really is 21:47:41 <mibbit_derp> the GRF mention is literally just a small bullet point in the middle of some other wall of text 21:48:04 <mibbit_derp> and considering that it cannot be downloaded in-game and pretty much googling any part of it results in complete failure to find it, it should really be made a little more obvious... 21:48:28 <planetmaker> fair enough 21:50:22 <mibbit_derp> though a better solution might be to upload the missing grfs to the content server, haha. 21:50:23 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 21:50:54 *** ODM has quit IRC 21:51:04 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 21:51:10 <KenjiE20> which grf is impossible to find btw? 21:51:30 <mibbit_derp> The new company colors one. 21:52:00 <mibbit_derp> http://www.google.com/search?q=AFF1124BD0B36FC6B875AF4226BF96AF&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 21:52:01 <Webster> Title: AFF1124BD0B36FC6B875AF4226BF96AF - Google-Suche (at www.google.com) 21:52:06 <KenjiE20> it's in the grf pack 21:52:06 <mibbit_derp> Google search for the MD5 of it 21:52:11 <KenjiE20> which is noted on the QS 21:52:21 <mibbit_derp> ...see the stuff I just said above. 21:52:49 <KenjiE20> so how would that be improved? 21:52:51 <mibbit_derp> It's entirely easy to miss because all but two of the GRFs can be downloaded in-game and one of those two is easily found by searching for the id. 21:53:00 <KenjiE20> grf really is just one thing in a list of things needed for this server 21:53:44 <imus> last time i reïnstalled the game i couldn't find 4 so we improved =D 21:53:53 <mibbit_derp> \:| 21:54:11 <KenjiE20> the coop grfpack wasn't ever really optional, more mandatory for PS access 21:54:20 <Vinnie_nl> try downloading the old grf pack to7.4 iirc 21:54:46 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 21:55:36 *** ^Spike^ changes topic to "Welcome to #openttdcoop, the Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG216 (r22950) | STAGE: Building | www.openttdcoop.org | New players, use @quickstart and !help | http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/IRC_Commands" 21:57:43 <mibbit_derp> though perhaps a better question is why the game is password protected instead of just the company /:| 21:57:59 <KenjiE20> because company password is new 21:58:09 <KenjiE20> and we've been at this a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time 21:58:19 <KenjiE20> so that's the method we use still 21:58:31 <^Spike^> other explenation: To protect the game from ppl messing around who are not in this channel 21:58:52 <mibbit_derp> ...how would you need to protect yourself from <spectators>? 21:59:05 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:01:33 <mibbit_derp> !password 22:01:33 <PublicServer> mibbit_derp: Please, read the rules! 22:01:42 <mibbit_derp> oh for fuck's sake. 22:01:50 <imus> =D 22:01:54 <KenjiE20> xD 22:02:11 <imus> epic ... just epic =D 22:02:34 <mibbit_derp> There really comes a point where the amount of bullshit you have to go through to get onto a server outweighs any possible benefit of actually succeeding. 22:02:40 *** Mucht has quit IRC 22:02:50 <V453000> everyone else succeeded so far 22:02:57 <V453000> you will be the first who fails it seems 22:02:57 <^Spike^> seems you didn't read the @@quickstart there 22:02:58 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 22:03:13 <V453000> because yes, SORRY, we demand someone to actually read something to get somewhere 22:03:17 <KenjiE20> V: I think there was one other 22:03:20 <V453000> how terrible we are 22:03:26 <V453000> was there? :o 22:04:14 <mibbit_derp> From that exact fucking page: 22:04:14 <mibbit_derp> On connection to the server, you can join as a regular player, or as a spectator (recommended if you're brand new to coop). Both options will prompt you for a password. Use !password in IRC to get the password you need in order to join our server. 22:04:18 <mfb-> outweighs any possible benefit of actually succeeding. <- how do you know? ;) 22:04:26 <mibbit_derp> from your rules page: 22:04:26 <mibbit_derp> The password for the Public Server is available only from IRC. You can query the password easily via an IRC command at any time. 22:04:42 <mfb-> I read the rules once and play for nearly a year on the servers here 22:04:44 <mfb-> nice ratio 22:04:45 <V453000> @kick mibbit_derp that page isnt too fucking 22:04:45 *** mibbit_derp was kicked by Webster (that page isnt too fucking) 22:04:59 <V453000> retarded fuck 22:05:03 <KenjiE20> also from the rules page: For the same reason in order to make communication easier: choose the same (or at least a recognisably similar) ingame name as your IRC nick. 22:05:04 <KenjiE20> oh 22:05:04 <imus> lol =D 22:05:05 <KenjiE20> nvm 22:05:16 <V453000> some people are just incredible 22:05:27 <imus> and you got a short temper :p 22:05:32 <^Spike^> ^^ 22:05:44 <imus> but true, he was anoying 22:05:45 <V453000> if their attitude is as it was, yes I do 22:05:56 <KenjiE20> to be fair 22:06:03 <KenjiE20> I was going to if he swore again 22:06:09 <imus> hehe 22:06:28 <V453000> I bet this person wouldnt be of any use for us anyway 22:06:30 <imus> note to self: be nice to the awesome guys with an @ in front of their name 22:06:33 <V453000> and would get banned sooner or later 22:06:38 <KenjiE20> I mean there's the odd cuss around here, and we all look the other way, but that was getting to the line 22:06:45 <V453000> imus: normal people are usually nice ;) 22:06:50 <imus> ^^ 22:07:04 <KenjiE20> If he couldn't read the QS for the grfs, I doubt he'd read the building guidelines either 22:07:14 <imus> well, I noticed in other online games with a chat that some people don't like me either XD 22:07:16 <KenjiE20> so yeah, he'd probably have gotten kicked 22:07:24 <imus> agreed 22:07:44 <V453000> quite so 22:08:17 <V453000> and when I look back how I read the wiki for weeks until I actually joined the server to even spectate, this was exact counterpart 22:08:28 <imus> XD 22:08:31 <V453000> he didnt even know why to join 22:08:43 <V453000> if he tells us his awesome effort outweighs the gain 22:08:47 <KenjiE20> heh, I lurked for a good year before joining 22:09:07 <imus> well, i didn't really read the wiki completely before spectating either ... but I did before touching anything :) 22:09:36 <planetmaker> he was totally right 22:09:39 <^Spike^> tbh i only read rules/build stuff sometimes... :) 22:09:47 <planetmaker> the grfpack hint was very hidden... 22:09:52 <^Spike^> not even completely.. i still turned out fine :D 22:09:55 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart#Getting_In_Game <-- reworked 22:09:57 <KenjiE20> hehe 22:10:04 <planetmaker> and he was actually friendly... :-( 22:10:37 <theos> oh lol at that guy 22:10:53 <planetmaker> and took great pains to explain where he was missing stuff. That should be valued 22:11:41 <imus> then again, he had "derp" in his name ... 22:11:55 <KenjiE20> true, but the atitude "I'm always correct, everyone else should adapt" isn't so nice 22:12:18 <planetmaker> did he say so? 22:12:23 <KenjiE20> he implied so 22:12:34 <KenjiE20> imo 22:12:59 <imus> conclusion of the kick: V should try not to get anoyed so easily, and he MIGHT have deserved it =D 22:13:00 <planetmaker> well... he carefully pointed out where he searched and where he didn't find it... 22:13:14 <planetmaker> which is actually quite a bit of efford to do, to properly report such things 22:13:23 <planetmaker> most people don't bother to rise it in a sensible way 22:14:00 <planetmaker> and "always being right" - I know a lot of people with a @ in this channel... who think of themselves this way, too (me including) 22:14:10 *** Firartix has quit IRC 22:14:44 <imus> hmm, maybe but you didn't get the @ with being wrong a lot .... so it might actually be true ^^ 22:15:06 <planetmaker> I got it for writing blog articles 22:15:23 <imus> =) 22:16:00 <imus> anyone got a good idea for BBH 01 outer btw? 22:16:28 <Vinnie_nl> imus rebuild it 22:16:53 <imus> but I donno how to build a good bbh (yet) :s 22:16:57 <imus> + game is paused 22:17:07 <Vinnie_nl> lucky for you it is only a merge :) 22:17:29 <imus> why do you think i don't know how to build a bbh? 22:17:33 <imus> -._ 22:17:36 <imus> -.- 22:18:06 <Vinnie_nl> you said you dont know how to build one 22:19:14 <imus> What I mean is: I can't build a bbh because I don't know how to start at building a merger .... saying "it's only a merge" doesn't actually help me here now does it? :p 22:19:45 <planetmaker> look how other merges are built 22:19:56 <planetmaker> there's dozens of options 22:20:00 <Vinnie_nl> all dirty ones in this psg 22:20:06 <planetmaker> :-) 22:20:12 <planetmaker> Then there's blog and wiki 22:20:37 <imus> I've been looking at wiki earlier this week to try one in a SP game 22:20:42 <imus> but failed :( 22:20:43 <Vinnie_nl> serch wiki for blancing helped me a lot for this psg 22:21:34 <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/01/13/fail-safe-joiners-priorities-and-the-cyclotron-example/ 22:21:57 <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2009/10/05/joining-merging-balancing-chosing/ 22:24:04 <mfb-> yeah, just build it like the merger in the north-east...... NOT! 22:24:23 <^Spike^> and the best option: Be creative! 22:24:27 <mfb-> but 5+4+3->5 is quite nice 22:24:33 <planetmaker> hm... 22:26:21 <planetmaker> http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2008/03/23/main-line-mergers/ 22:26:35 <planetmaker> ^ I knew I wrote a treatise on that once ;-) 22:34:00 <planetmaker> good night 22:34:06 <imus> gn 22:41:59 <Vinnie_nl> imus i dont know if you have read it but this gave me some ideas of some mergers in the game 22:42:00 <Vinnie_nl> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Balancing 22:42:14 <imus> i did read it ^^ 22:42:23 <Vinnie_nl> mostly the 2+ 2 > 2 join 22:42:50 <Vinnie_nl> then think out of the box and you can use it for 5 + 4 > 5 merge 22:44:00 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 22:44:22 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 22:44:47 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:44:58 <imus> was actually thinking that switching the leftmost lane coming from the BBH 01 inner to the right might solve most of the problem 22:49:26 <Vinnie_nl> gn 22:49:30 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 22:49:32 <PublicServer> <imus> gn 23:00:21 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (leaving) 23:00:26 <imus> I'm off as well 23:00:27 <imus> cya 23:00:34 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 23:02:28 *** imus has quit IRC 23:14:40 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop 23:15:56 <PublicServer> *** Theos has left the game (leaving) 23:20:52 *** Progman has quit IRC 23:24:20 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 23:52:05 *** hanf has quit IRC