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00:04:53 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that's better? 00:05:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now you have a curfe of 1 00:05:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 00:05:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but whay abouth 00:08:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :) which are your ML and which are the splitted lines? 00:08:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> mark (sign) them 00:08:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> makes thinking easier 00:09:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> oky 00:09:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> its is easier to split them outways 00:09:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so to the northwest 00:10:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see my point? 00:10:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now you have to bridge/tunnel it again 00:11:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000CF73: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000CF73.png 00:13:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> uhmmm 00:15:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there 00:15:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> L( 00:15:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 00:16:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 00:16:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> tunnle or bridge the splits and make from 3 lines 2 00:16:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ML just conncet them :) 00:16:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> to !here 00:17:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no :P 00:17:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is a split line 00:17:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see the signs? 00:17:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> btw? can you type something back? :P 00:18:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello? 00:18:29 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> splits tunnels below ML? 00:18:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 00:18:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i guess so :) 00:19:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes that is good 00:19:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k carry on 00:21:00 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 00:21:07 *** Sylf has quit IRC 00:22:09 *** pugi has quit IRC 00:26:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000ED92: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000ED92.png 00:26:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you also want to build the balancer? 00:27:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nicfercoop? 00:27:50 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I''m finishing the 3->2 00:27:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nicfercoop: do you also want to build the balancer? :) 00:28:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yeah 00:28:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 00:31:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> LOL! 00:32:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nicfercoop: dont get mad ;) 00:32:53 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> sorry, there was almost no space 00:33:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well 00:33:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you want to build all to all? 00:33:39 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yup 00:34:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P htere 00:34:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but 00:34:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that "cheap" design was also good enough 00:35:11 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> not all to all althrough... 00:35:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> true 00:35:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k now 2+2->2 00:35:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and balancing 00:36:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then your done 00:36:14 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> not all to all 00:36:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes that one needs all to all 00:36:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thats why the 3->2 can be cheaper 00:37:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> because otherwise you will have 2 balancer next to each other 00:37:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which is not bad tho :) 00:41:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> WHOHO!!! 00:41:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> forest is gone :D 00:41:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EB99: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EB99.png 00:43:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 00:44:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but 00:44:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> what was wrong with the firstdesign? 00:44:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you need 2 exit lines not 3 00:45:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no not that 00:45:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was the one with the sign "evil x of doom...." 00:45:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 00:45:58 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I need to connect A to E2 now 00:46:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but D is not going to E1 00:46:08 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> and C to E2 00:46:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and C is not going to E2 00:46:24 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> wasn't it all to all? 00:46:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 00:46:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> all to all 00:46:55 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> then C needs to go to E2 and D to E1 00:47:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yep 00:48:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> something is not right 00:48:22 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> 'this one' can't get to E2 00:48:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> B should be E2 00:48:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then connect C and D to B etc 00:50:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now you have 2 ways to 1 point 00:50:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 00:50:35 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> they should both reach E1 00:50:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> they already do 00:51:13 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I'm getting dizzy 00:51:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now it should be correct 00:52:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> only the waiting bays are not right 00:52:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> they are to short 00:52:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> X 00:53:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no cl 1 now 00:53:56 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that's a CL2 00:54:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 00:54:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but that is not a real CL :P 00:54:13 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that's better 00:54:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no now w8ing bay is t shirt 00:55:04 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> better? 00:55:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see 00:55:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yes that is also good 00:55:56 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> lol 00:56:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 00:56:45 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000EF8F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000EF8F.png 00:58:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> did you put that sigh there? 00:58:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> about the bottleneck? 00:58:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yes 00:58:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 00:58:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 00:58:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you might be rught 00:58:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but if you look at the other hubs they have the same desigh 00:59:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> design* 01:00:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> also the outer two lines have priority 01:00:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> except my 3->2 01:00:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so they will never be delayed by the inner line 01:00:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which is the only one who can block it 01:01:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so :P i doubt is 01:01:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes yours needs prio as well 01:01:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> know how to build it> 01:01:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 01:02:01 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I mean, that thing I made is all to all unless the others 01:03:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> "_ 01:03:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 01:03:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is indeed true 01:03:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k wait 01:04:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> let me help :) 01:04:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which needs prio over which? 01:04:52 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> the outer needs prio 01:05:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 01:05:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> over inner? 01:06:47 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that should give prio to the outer 01:07:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so a has prio over b 01:07:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 01:07:27 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> no, b over a 01:07:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah 01:07:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> then you should build it the other way around 01:07:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> becuase now a gets the prio 01:08:44 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> shouldn't that loop make the trains prefer b to a? 01:09:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no that loop does nothing to be honnest :P 01:09:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see 01:10:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now it works 01:10:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> is that good? 01:10:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k ill show you 01:11:32 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> lol 01:11:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> w8 01:11:50 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E78B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E78B.png 01:11:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf! 01:12:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trol 01:13:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> trololol 01:13:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that will teach them :P 01:13:39 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> pre signals should be two way? 01:13:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wut!!! 01:15:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 01:15:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now it works 01:15:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and watch the 4th train 01:15:49 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yup 01:15:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is why 01:16:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> combo should not be needed 01:16:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> dude 01:16:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> watch out :P 01:17:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k so pre signals so trains wait before the splits 01:18:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and combo/pre for prios :) 01:18:30 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> those pieces of non-circulable rails are for preventing trains from getting stuck in the combos righte? 01:18:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah :P no :) 01:18:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> its to prevent signal gaps 01:19:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the "prio-signal" is now going around the real tracks 01:19:22 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> oh I remember now 01:19:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 01:21:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> first build the pre entry signal 01:21:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 01:22:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you know that is a split 01:22:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> not a merg? 01:23:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k :) need help? 01:23:13 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> but how the presignal should reach the prio 01:23:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which presignal? 01:23:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is a split 01:23:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so no prio is needed 01:24:03 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> that should be the one that decides where the train should go 01:24:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 01:24:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but the train will take the free tracks 01:24:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> OR 01:24:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> w8 at the prio of the other one 01:24:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so we build them prios at the w8ing baus 01:24:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bays* 01:25:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> good :) 01:25:38 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> more like there? 01:25:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now B has prio over A 01:26:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> if you build the prio correctly ofc 01:26:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> entry1 doesn't reach a 01:26:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> doens matter 01:26:36 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> only b 01:26:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 01:26:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F59B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F59B.png 01:26:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but we are talking about the merg of a with b 01:27:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and which of those to lines gets the prio... 01:27:28 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> now it's wrong 01:27:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no 01:27:36 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> the inner gets prio 01:27:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> watch 01:27:39 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> as it's now 01:28:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see 01:28:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> B gets prio over A 01:28:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is what you build 01:28:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you see that? 01:28:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and getting the point :P ? 01:29:24 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I see 01:29:53 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> but trains from a don't get a detour 01:29:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> correct 01:30:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so we need to get it the other way around 01:30:11 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> they already passed by the last one 01:30:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> A should get prio over B 01:32:36 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> but now the train from entry1 is taking a detour to inner 01:32:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes oky 01:32:48 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> so it's now wrong 01:33:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> argh 01:33:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> they are stupid 01:34:13 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> exit signals should be two way 01:34:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> not always 01:35:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see it works just fine 01:36:12 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> now trains will prefer inner 01:36:18 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> and that's wrong 01:36:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes if the other one is "full" 01:36:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm? 01:36:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you mean inner from the top merger? 01:37:19 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> no, from the one with the sign 01:37:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i dont see your point:P 01:37:43 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> can you see the signs? 01:37:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i just showed you with some trains 01:37:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 01:37:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and it works just fine 01:38:00 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> trains need to prefer outer to inner 01:38:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but they do 01:38:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> look 01:38:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see 01:38:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> outer 01:39:14 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> see my poin? 01:39:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why is that bad? 01:39:37 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> shouldn't trains prefer outer? 01:39:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why? 01:40:06 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> because you said 01:40:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> let me see 01:40:16 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> trains should prefer outer 01:40:54 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> a train went to inner 01:41:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes because it was faster that way 01:41:23 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> without that prio nothing would change 01:41:47 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> only that some trains would have to wait more than others 01:41:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes but no prio is realy bad 01:41:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000195C8: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000195C8.png 01:41:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 01:43:48 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> now, a should still get prio over b? 01:48:57 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> is that prio I made good? 01:49:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> looks fine to me 01:49:17 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> a little small thro 01:49:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> do you think its alright? 01:50:01 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I think trains from b will wait for traffic from a 01:50:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is true 01:50:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but in general i always give the outer lanes prio :) 01:50:34 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> but trains from b1 don't know wheter if b is busy 01:50:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> or in this case 01:50:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> true :) 01:50:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> unless there is a jam 01:51:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but in this case you want to give prio to only one track until no more merges are needed 01:52:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see my point 01:52:33 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> but trains from b1 should be able to 'see' if c is busy and prefer b instead 01:52:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well they wil 01:52:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but hard to tell 01:53:06 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> not until c is jammed 01:53:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but in this case a priority lane can get jammer because it have to give prio to someone else 01:54:09 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah, but c comes from way further 01:54:11 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> since b took over a priority, now c should take a 'revenge' and balance the situation 01:54:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so 01:54:39 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> trains from c will be pretty sad 01:54:51 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> I mean d if c got the prio 01:55:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains from c going to c/d will go to b instead i think 01:55:37 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> trains from c will prefer b 01:55:55 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> and trains from a1 should then prefer d 01:56:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes but d is from a1 and a2 which have a choice 01:56:51 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000F3A5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000F3A5.png 01:57:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> uhmm 01:57:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nha i think its good this way :) 01:57:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lest see it when there are trains 01:57:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> we can always tweak a little more 02:01:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> satisfied? 02:01:19 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> yep 02:01:25 <PublicServer> <nicfercoop> now I g2g now 02:01:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 02:01:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k see ya 02:01:48 <PublicServer> *** nicfercoop has left the game (leaving) 02:01:53 *** nicfer has left #openttdcoop 02:05:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hi Xotic :) 02:05:28 <Mazur> !password 02:05:28 <PublicServer> Mazur: gunman 02:05:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ni :) 02:05:34 <Mazur> And don;t you forget it. 02:05:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> "it" ? 02:06:26 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 02:08:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hey, new bridges. 02:11:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C7C7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C7C7.png 02:20:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 02:20:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Like that, you mean? 02:20:51 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeaH, i'M STILL GETTING MY HEAD AROUND THE ANGLES 02:20:57 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oops 02:20:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol 02:21:22 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's why I was building it on a mountain 02:21:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No need to talk so loud, boy, I'm not quite deef, yet. 02:21:38 <PublicServer> <Mazur> ;-) 02:25:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it's alright for some, I'm deaf and colour blind, lol, doesn't help with all the red and green :) 02:25:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> serious? :P 02:25:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 02:25:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> well, not exactly deaf 02:25:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 02:26:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> do we have container wagons? 02:26:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E3E9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E3E9.png 02:27:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I assume we are shipping goods to the town? 02:27:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 02:30:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Goods drop is in the South-east. 02:31:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> One minor detail, Xotic750: When we name the major stations, we precede the name by a space. 02:31:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> oh, ok 02:31:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look at hte staion list to see why. 02:32:21 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> got ya 02:32:47 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Saves so much time for all concerned. :-) 02:33:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> sure :) 02:33:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> at least I'm labelling this time :P 02:33:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, well sone. 02:33:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> done 02:34:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That's the lot done. Now all neatly lined up in the list./ 02:35:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> :) 02:35:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I need coffee and then connect the stations 02:35:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> btw can you check the coal/ore station and see if there is anything wrong or I should do 02:36:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> back soon 02:37:29 <PublicServer> <Mazur> One teensy detail, the combo signals on the last corner of each set aren't doing much, are they? 02:37:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 02:37:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> is that to me? 02:38:13 <PublicServer> <Mazur> A combo signal folllowed by an exit signal with no split between. 02:38:19 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, to Xotic750. 02:39:18 *** Speedy- has quit IRC 02:41:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000397EA: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000397EA.png 02:43:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> back 02:44:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> probably not, wasn't sure 02:44:20 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I would have use PBS 02:44:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but there seems to be a group displike for them 02:45:54 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There is, I hear it's slow. I'm not sure exactly how or why, but people who know better than I say that. 02:45:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I have seen examples likr that, and with PBS and with block signals 02:46:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But think about what a combo signal, followed by an exit signal, does. 02:46:35 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so it's hard to tell how I should signal them 02:47:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> what is the problem/issue? 02:47:16 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There is no problem. 02:47:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> coal/ore drop 02:47:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the !this sign? 02:47:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But there is an "issue", but rthat already is a big word for it. 02:47:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 02:47:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep 02:48:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> well, you need exit signs :P 02:48:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep :P but the entrance signalling 02:48:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm 02:49:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah well :P 02:49:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains cant look trough pre signaling 02:50:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> DId you notice? 02:50:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but its also dependant on unloading speed 02:50:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> as I said, I would personally use PBS with a block 02:50:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> same issue 02:51:04 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's like this: THe combo should just be an exit signal, and the exit signal after the combo can go. 02:51:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> if platform 5 and 6 are free 02:51:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and the first train goes to 5 02:51:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> then the 2nd will w8 unthill the combo is green 02:52:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but it could just drive thought and go to 6... 02:52:23 <PublicServer> <Mazur> BUt the combo at hte sixth platform just repeats what the exit signal is saying. 02:52:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye but it blocks the train, well there is a free platform 02:52:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so that is useless 02:53:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was not talking about that :P 02:54:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was. 02:54:59 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I was hoping to convey the gist of my remarks to Xotic750. 02:55:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k ill shut my mouth :P 02:55:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> So he would see, why a combo before an exit signal is useless. 02:55:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so would this be better then 02:55:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Except when there is a split in between, of course, with a separate exit. 02:56:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, this works just the same as what you had. 02:56:18 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But less confusingly so. 02:56:34 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, no, not the extra block signals. 02:56:52 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BFD9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003BFD9.png 02:56:56 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Unless you want trains to block free platforms further on. 02:57:50 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and change the others to combo again? 02:57:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Now each exit signal is red when the platform is full, and green when it is free. 02:58:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The ones towards that should be combos. 02:58:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> They all see more than one other signal, one of which can be free. 02:58:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> like so 02:58:48 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 02:58:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 02:59:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but why the gap in the exit signals? 03:00:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I would not leave a gap there, the one tile gap of the ML can be established after all the platforms have exited. 03:01:03 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ah, I also just notices that my exits are not the same length 03:01:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no, they are, lol 03:01:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just a deception by the station 03:01:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Your last platforms, (12 of them) are only 2 long. 03:02:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The drop platforms. They are two long. 03:03:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, so all 24 are the same exit length :P 03:04:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, the pickup platforms are 3 long, like is mentioned in hte Network Plan. 03:05:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Oh, sorry, optical illusion, the DROP platforms only _looked_ two long. 03:06:03 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, that's what I said :P 03:06:24 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, I missed that.' 03:06:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the station deceives the eye 03:06:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, what about the merger of the exits 03:07:26 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Balancing, definately not prios. 03:07:51 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, now I was told that there is a better way to balance rather than those in the wiki 03:08:37 <PublicServer> <Mazur> TYhink about it: if one side is for some reason used more, while the other is also busy, only one side would get through an the other would block around the clock. 03:09:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that was my guess and why I put the sign there 03:09:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but how do I deal with it 03:09:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Actually, the balancing should already have been done before the stations, so there should be no need at these exits. 03:09:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 03:09:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> wasn't sure 03:10:10 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If later is appears it does need it, we can deal with it then. 03:10:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I guessed there may be balancing in the BBH 03:10:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and then I have dedicated lines per station 03:10:46 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, that's where you want it, as early as possible to use all lines optimally. 03:11:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but the exit merge was a question I was not sure about 03:11:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B3F4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003B3F4.png 03:12:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> the only other question I had was about the split to stations 03:12:18 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I assume that there was nothing special required there 03:12:22 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Well, in effext your station is a balancer of sort.: assuming trains will split about evenly over the sets. 03:13:12 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think that will show in practice, there should be no special need. 03:13:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and 1 final 03:13:37 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> there is a 3rd line at the BBH 03:13:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's not connected 03:14:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> we know 03:14:09 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I assume that's future expansion 03:14:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 03:14:53 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok then, thanks. Back to pluggin in the other stations I guess :) 03:15:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> No, the third line should after the Main Station Hub connect to hte LL_RR line to the Main Station. 03:16:32 <PublicServer> <Mazur> It's in the netowrk plan, the ML starts LLL_RRR, in other words, 3 full working lines. 03:17:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Look for instance at VInnie's BBH 04,. you'll see all three lines connected to the LL_RR to the Main Station. 03:19:04 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so what needs to be done then? 03:20:44 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The Main Station Line exits need to be connected to the third line of the BBH, as well. 03:21:06 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I'm supposed to connect it somehow to the other 2 lines 03:22:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so just connect it to both, no other structure in between 03:22:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> From the looks of it, Vinnie has already done the balancing bit with prios and waiting bays. 03:22:58 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Or something, at least. 03:24:11 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hang on... 03:25:00 <PublicServer> <Mazur> If he's done it right, your two lines are already connected to all six ML lines. 03:25:14 <PublicServer> <Mazur> (Both directions) 03:25:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i think they are 03:25:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so no need to connect it (yet) 03:26:09 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And then that third connection is indeed just a bit of extra build in for if the line to the station needs a third set of track. 03:26:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C3E5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C3E5.png 03:27:06 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Hm, I mixed two sentences there. 03:28:03 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 03:28:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so it's fine as is 03:28:21 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes. 03:29:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> grain and steel drop/pickup are also ready :) 03:29:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wanna take a look? ^^ 03:31:35 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 03:31:41 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You thought: lets throw in a bit of extra regulation? 03:31:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the prebypass? 03:32:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> or just the whole station? :P 03:32:52 <PublicServer> <Mazur> The extra signal lines at the front. 03:33:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yeah im not 100% sure about those 03:33:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but these trains are quite short so 03:33:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> if one is in the entry, the next one can now look trough it 03:34:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but it fails if they take the same platform :P 03:34:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but its a drop so.... 03:34:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> + waiting bays 03:35:08 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'll look interestedly by frmo the side when trains start rolling and it all fails miserably. 03:35:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> >;-) 03:35:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe 03:35:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 03:36:01 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm not such a signal wizard that I can get the set up properly deciphered in my hdead at this moment. 03:36:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> can or cant ;P 03:36:40 <PublicServer> <Mazur> But your waiting bays at the west side are one short. 03:36:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ssst!!! 03:37:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> (i know :( ) 03:37:07 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'm not such a wizard, that I can, ergo, I can't. 03:37:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Ok, just saying. 03:37:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 03:37:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> PBS tweak 03:38:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Didn;t see it. 03:38:33 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> arrrgg, invisiblr power station, lmao 03:39:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why not first make two lines 03:39:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> from those 4? 03:39:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> me? 03:39:42 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Could have been an invincible power station, and then where would we be? 03:39:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> like in; make the balancer in front of the station :) 03:39:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Xotic750: yes you :P 03:40:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I thought a long lead into the station is good thing? 03:40:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn i got to sleep :S 03:40:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> for many trains 03:40:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes and no 03:40:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> just going by the wiki 03:41:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> because if its to long trains cant see which platforms are free 03:41:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> they will all go to the nearest 03:41:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then overcrowd it :P 03:41:46 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so what is advisable length? 03:41:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000175DB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000175DB.png 03:42:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> 2 mabye 3 TL's 03:42:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? :P 03:42:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that short :O ok 03:48:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> why remove the signal? 03:48:49 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Because otherwise the exit signal goes green when a train is still on eht bridge. 03:49:00 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 03:49:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> There is a very simple rule to remember: Always keep the first signal gap the largest. 03:49:49 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 03:51:31 <PublicServer> <Mazur> You can experiment with it in a private game, but it's so fundamental, that we always follow it. 03:51:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k im going to sleep :P 03:51:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see you 03:52:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> that's fine just curious, and can only learn by asking 03:52:11 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (leaving) 03:52:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, cya 03:52:27 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, you can. 03:55:07 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ooops, wrong connection, lol 03:56:53 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000183D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000183D7.png 04:11:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I do believe we are connected :) 04:11:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001CBC3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001CBC3.png 04:24:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Best to start with the inner line when things get tight. 04:24:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> k 04:25:03 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I'd even finish that one past all the obstacles before doing the other two. 04:26:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00016384: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00016384.png 04:27:35 <PublicServer> <Mazur> That way you'd not have needed to T anything. 04:27:39 <PublicServer> <Mazur> TF 04:27:50 *** perk11 has quit IRC 04:28:17 <PublicServer> <Mazur> And you keep room for hte third line. 04:28:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ic 04:28:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Just like that. 04:29:05 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I think that was the last of it? 04:29:15 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Yes, and so I'm off. 04:29:25 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Bye. 04:29:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, cheers and gn 04:29:30 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 04:29:30 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 04:41:54 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001B9AD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001B9AD.png 05:01:45 *** Eightbitpwny has left #openttdcoop 05:11:55 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002B535: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002B535.png 06:56:14 <V453000> !password 06:56:15 <PublicServer> V453000: chests 06:56:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 06:56:44 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 06:56:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 06:56:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 06:57:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 06:57:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will show you something at steel pickup 06:57:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 06:57:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> well firstly the pickup is not balanced which is not nice 06:57:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> but that later 06:57:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> now about the design itself 06:57:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have trains here 06:58:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> now, they have 2 options where to go 06:58:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> like this 06:59:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> but if there is a train in the left part already, it will slow down 06:59:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> this one is just fine 07:00:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> and lets say those two trains should go to the last 2 platforms 07:00:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> so the middle platforms do not exist atm 07:00:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> see? 07:00:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> the second one has to wait 07:00:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 07:01:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> because you have 2 lines for goods in total, it might not be an issue here 07:01:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> but just keep that in mind when making fast stations 07:01:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> IF there comes a high load, it will definitely break 07:01:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so what should I do 07:01:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> as for the drop, there is a problem ... why did you signal it that way 07:01:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I was pointed at this as optimum 07:01:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 07:01:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> I showed you the wiki image 07:02:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and then I spoke with others about the signals 07:02:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> who exactly? 07:02:56 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lupo and mazur 07:03:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :x 07:03:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> look at this 07:03:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> much faster 07:03:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> for basically all platforms you have fullspped line coming to 07:04:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you understand it? :) 07:04:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> in a more explained form you could read @@ABR07 07:04:51 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 07: Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/28/advanced-building-revue-07-stations/ 07:04:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> because you split it into 2 and have 1 TL for waiting 07:05:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of 07:05:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> mainly because I do not have the long presignal array 07:05:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is like if you built this 07:05:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> see? 07:05:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> you only have 3 additional platforms in the middle of course 07:06:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> but the throughput for those 3 is exactly the same 07:06:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> which of course is not good :) 07:07:19 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so why wasn't that done in the example screenshot? 07:07:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> what exactly 07:07:34 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/5/55/Psg186_towndrop03.png 07:07:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes what would you do there 07:07:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> the signals are totally different 07:08:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> the train can enter the station at any time 07:08:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> and just joins the first platform available 07:08:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can even strengthen it by the road crossings for penalties 07:08:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> so trains join platforms as soon as possible 07:09:29 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so if the signals had been like in the diagram then would the shape have been ok? 07:09:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course, just like in the image 07:10:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think what lopo and mazur told you was that you need to pre-signal the pickup 07:10:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> because trains are likely to stop there 07:10:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> the drop just accepts trains forever as they also leave soon always 07:11:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00028E7B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00028E7B.png 07:12:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> well you will hopefully see the difference yourself later 07:12:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so the 2 pickups should be split 07:12:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but the drops can have that z shap 07:12:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> well in the best case they should be totally together, but meh 07:13:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> also as I said, it might not make issues 07:13:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> bigger issue will be that it is not balanced 07:13:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would say keep it for now to be able to see why it is not optimal 07:13:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> then we can do something about it 07:13:50 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> how do you mean together? 07:14:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> all platforms available from any entry line 07:14:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> balanced. 07:14:37 <Xotic750> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Main_station 07:14:51 <Xotic750> says that is the most effecient? 07:15:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> again, outdated 07:15:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> very outdated in fact 07:15:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it partially is correct 07:15:24 <Xotic750> or fastest 07:15:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> that design indeed is fast 07:15:38 <Xotic750> not efficient platform use 07:15:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> but you have to consider that it is for drop only 07:15:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> as always, no thing is ultimately usable, everything has some downsides 07:16:30 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> and I asked about balancing and was told it was needed 07:16:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is correct 07:16:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> not needed sorry 07:16:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would it not? 07:17:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> because it was balanced at the bbh before it 07:17:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is horseshit 07:17:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> but lets see to that situation 07:17:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> what happens 07:17:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains wait at 1 half of station for new goods 07:17:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> or steel, whatever 07:17:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> they fill one half because they do not get to the other 07:18:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will start to jam 07:18:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> and only when the jam reaches the BBH, they will re-balance 07:18:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> is that what we want? :) 07:18:21 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 07:18:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> who said that btw? 07:18:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no, just a little confused about previous advice 07:19:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I may have misunderstood but mazur was who I was mostly speaking to and lopo too 07:20:12 *** Phazorx_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:20:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> well that doesnt reject the fact that they talked shit :D 07:21:58 *** Phazorx has quit IRC 07:23:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so how should it be done, if you have time? 07:23:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> balancing? 07:23:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> town drop for example 07:24:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yep, because I was told that the balancing shown in the wiki is out of date and there is a better way now 07:24:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> not sure about that but see goods drop 07:24:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is how it works basically 07:24:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> every of the 2 lines has access to one of the Xs 07:24:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> *to all of the Xs 07:25:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but not the exits 07:25:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> exits do not need it 07:26:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> you might really want to read the article i linked to 07:26:38 <Xotic750> all to all roro 07:26:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00009145: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00009145.png 07:27:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg I will have to go :| 07:27:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will be back in like 2 hours 07:27:41 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 07:27:41 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 07:28:51 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 07:29:43 <V453000> @@ABR07 might be useful ;) 07:29:52 <V453000> @ABR07 07:29:53 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 07: Stations at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/09/28/advanced-building-revue-07-stations/ 07:29:56 <Xotic750> reading it 07:32:18 *** tycoondemon2 has quit IRC 07:33:20 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 07:33:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 07:41:57 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008F46: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008F46.png 07:41:59 <pugi> !password 07:41:59 <PublicServer> pugi: uproot 07:42:05 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 07:42:05 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 07:42:08 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 07:44:14 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:45:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> xotic: you don't need to sign every part of the mainline / every bridge you made :P 07:46:03 *** imus has joined #openttdcoop 07:46:38 <imus> !playercount 07:46:39 <PublicServer> imus: Number of players: 6 (0 spectators) 07:46:41 <imus> hi 07:46:45 <imus> !password 07:46:45 <PublicServer> imus: uproot 07:47:35 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 07:47:39 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 07:49:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> the way i see it all the main stations are finished? 07:49:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> so we can start building slhs and connecting primaries? 07:50:09 <PublicServer> <Tray> yes 07:50:11 *** imus_ has joined #openttdcoop 07:50:28 <imus_> !password 07:50:28 <PublicServer> imus_: uproot 07:50:41 <PublicServer> *** imus joined the game 07:51:32 *** DayDreamer has joined #openttdcoop 07:52:34 <PublicServer> <imus> hi 07:54:49 *** imus has quit IRC 07:56:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C4D7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C4D7.png 08:01:30 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 08:04:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> omg... i am so stupid 08:05:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> slh doens't need connection to goods drop <.< 08:11:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00034E48: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00034E48.png 08:24:08 <imus_> question: how do I change my nickname? 08:24:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> /nick nickname 08:24:27 *** imus_ is now known as imus 08:24:31 <imus> thanks :) 08:26:43 <pugi> V453000, are you there? 08:26:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002CF50: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002CF50.png 08:29:05 *** tycoondemon has joined #openttdcoop 08:29:20 <PublicServer> <imus> what's your question pugi? 08:29:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> i know mainline should get prio in slh 08:29:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> but what about empty trains coming from goods drop? :D 08:30:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> wouldn't it be more logical that the full trains from sideline get prio over empty goods trains? 08:30:15 <PublicServer> <imus> no 08:30:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay :D 08:30:33 <PublicServer> <imus> cause it might cause a jam on ML :) 08:30:58 <PublicServer> <imus> most likely not really a problem there 08:32:28 <PublicServer> <imus> you really think double bridges after a choice split are needed? 08:32:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 08:32:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> :P 08:32:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> but otherwise slh had no waiting space before the bridge 08:33:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh, you mean the back to ml route... 08:33:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> i somehow thought that was the line ml->sl... 08:33:44 <PublicServer> <imus> ^^ 08:34:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> :/ 08:34:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> well, it is there now :D 08:37:18 <PublicServer> <imus> there's something wrong there 08:37:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> might be... 08:37:42 <PublicServer> <Tray> where? 08:37:42 <PublicServer> <imus> waiting bay fro train 08:37:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> i think i had to look up how prio over bridge works :D 08:37:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh, you aren't talking to me? 08:37:56 <PublicServer> <imus> 4 trains waiting to go on that line will block it 08:38:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> j, 08:38:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm 08:38:48 <PublicServer> <imus> still :p 08:39:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> :P 08:39:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> shouldn't block now 08:39:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> as it is entry, combo, exit 08:40:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> and i didn't think about waiting space there 08:40:59 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 08:41:26 *** Tray has quit IRC 08:41:58 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C95E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C95E.png 08:43:39 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 08:43:50 <Tray> !password 08:43:50 <PublicServer> Tray: burner 08:44:22 <Tray> living in a city and the internet dies ... wher's the future now? ): 08:44:35 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 08:49:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> xotic: first train coming to your ore drop :D 08:49:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> wait... it doesn't accept ore <.< 08:50:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> no, I am redoing things 08:50:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> after speaking with v 08:50:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh damn, have to go 08:50:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> bye 08:50:32 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 08:50:40 <pugi> 10 minutes until the bus comes :D 08:50:47 *** pugi has quit IRC 08:53:30 *** UncleCJ has joined #openttdcoop 08:56:59 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00022624: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00022624.png 09:03:49 <PublicServer> *** imus has left the game (leaving) 09:03:58 *** imus has quit IRC 09:11:46 *** Progman has quit IRC 09:12:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00024A33: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00024A33.png 09:25:06 <V453000> !password 09:25:06 <PublicServer> V453000: lesion 09:25:29 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 09:25:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello gentlemen 09:25:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D TRAINZ 09:26:26 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 09:26:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) I see you have correctly discovered the power of half SLHs on goods line :D 09:26:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so I tried to improve the steel pickup 09:27:05 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00007B46: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00007B46.png 09:27:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see ... that is a tiny bit better but in general pre-balancing is advised against ... keep it now :) 09:28:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> pre balancing, I thought that is pre balanced now? no? 09:28:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, now it is 09:28:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is an unbalanced station with pre-balancing 09:28:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I don't know how to make it perfectly synced though 09:29:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> no need to 09:29:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> sync applies only for drops where all trains stay in the platforms for the same period of time 09:29:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> but in pickup trains can easily get de-synced because each of them waits for a different time 09:29:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> so trying to sync them there is .... not needed 09:30:17 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so what about the coal/ore drop, should I change that 09:30:27 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> other than connect the 2nd line back 09:30:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 09:30:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> what would you change 09:30:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> it does mean that sync is wrong in any case 09:31:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it can help only under those circumstances 09:31:03 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> does it not need balancing too 09:31:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course not, why would it 09:31:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains leave the station regularly 09:31:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> pickup trains might not leave as soon 09:31:37 <PublicServer> <Tray> Advanced Settings: 'Allow multiple similar industries per town' is set to false, is that wanted? 09:31:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry but that is just very basic understanding of openttd 09:31:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: possibly, lets see later :p 09:32:06 <PublicServer> <Tray> Can't build a sawmill at Hondworth ): 09:32:14 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok, so I just need to find a way in with the other track then 09:32:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> the old sawmill will die 09:32:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> there Xotic750 09:32:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 09:33:22 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> now I guess the other pickup I made for goods needs fixing 09:33:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably :) 09:33:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> sure :) 09:35:16 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is it best to wipe it and start again? 09:35:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> just the pickup if something 09:35:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> drop just needs resignalling 09:35:59 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> yeah, same problems as other 09:40:42 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> so I assume the close you put the balancer to the station the better? 09:40:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, in the ideal case "inside" the station 09:41:13 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is that possible? 09:41:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> then it is a balanced station 09:42:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00008542: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00008542.png 09:43:02 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> in your blog you talk about balancing the entrance (and at times the exit) 09:43:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> but I saw nothing about balanced station "internal" 09:43:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> ......... 09:43:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> station entrance and exit = station 09:44:23 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 09:45:48 *** LXSJason has left #openttdcoop 09:46:20 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 09:52:20 <PublicServer> <Tray> is it possible to build onedirection SLHs with a seperate drop for that SLH? 09:52:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> what? 09:52:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> like only wood SLH on the sawmill ML? 09:52:56 <PublicServer> <Tray> no 09:53:09 <PublicServer> <Tray> other direction but connect wood to a sperate drop 09:53:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you do that 09:53:25 <PublicServer> <Tray> so everthing can transported but wood never leaves the SL 09:53:31 <PublicServer> <Tray> compact SLH 09:53:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> point to ponit traffic rather 09:53:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> keep network please :p 09:57:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B952: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B952.png 10:03:10 <Dilandau> hello 10:03:13 <Dilandau> !password 10:03:13 <PublicServer> Dilandau: chafed 10:03:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 10:03:32 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 10:04:18 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 10:05:42 <Tray> !password 10:05:42 <PublicServer> Tray: chafed 10:05:58 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 10:12:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B741: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B741.png 10:27:06 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001BBD5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001BBD5.png 10:32:40 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:34:38 <pugi> !password 10:34:38 <PublicServer> pugi: silted 10:34:46 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 10:34:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> OMG HE IS BACK 10:34:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :p 10:35:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 10:35:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> he is :) 10:35:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> now in university 10:35:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> i did a slh =) 10:36:45 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (connection lost) 10:36:53 *** pugi_ has joined #openttdcoop 10:37:03 <pugi_> hmmm 10:37:05 <pugi_> weird 10:37:30 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 10:41:41 <pugi_> @prio 10:41:41 <Webster> prio: Priority, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Priorities 10:42:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001C3CE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001C3CE.png 10:42:43 *** pugi has quit IRC 10:44:06 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (connection lost) 10:55:08 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 10:56:25 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 10:57:07 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002C73F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002C73F.png 10:58:43 *** pugi_ has quit IRC 10:59:28 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:12:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001A1DE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001A1DE.png 11:27:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002A777: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002A777.png 11:30:40 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> choo choo :) 11:42:10 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001EAD0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001EAD0.png 11:53:43 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> we have some kind of jam at slh03 11:54:10 <PublicServer> <Tray> mssing signal 11:54:24 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> ok 11:57:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000913C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000913C.png 12:12:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00005B3B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00005B3B.png 12:24:26 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 12:25:22 <pugi> !password 12:25:22 <PublicServer> pugi: terser 12:25:34 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 12:27:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00037255: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00037255.png 12:40:01 <LoPo> !players 12:40:04 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1107 (Orange) is pugi, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 12:40:04 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1075 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 12:40:04 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 874 (Orange) is Xotic750, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 12:40:41 <LoPo> hello 12:40:47 <LoPo> !passwprd 12:40:50 <LoPo> !password 12:40:50 <PublicServer> LoPo: doused 12:41:07 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 12:41:54 <V453000> hiy 12:42:01 <V453000> I marked some signals that brought me wtf at grain area 12:42:11 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003484F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003484F.png 12:42:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah it was late :P 12:42:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ill fix it 12:44:57 <V453000> never too late to start using PSB imo :D 12:45:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 12:45:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but during my sleep i came up with the sollution :) 12:45:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> nha it was the waiting bay... 12:46:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> fk what did the sign say? :P 12:46:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> PBS or PSB? 12:47:09 <V453000> pickup PBS, drop PSB 12:47:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 12:48:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah i was also not 100% sure about it 12:48:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but the trains are pretty small 12:48:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so i thought 12:48:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and then again if they want to take the same platform 12:48:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there are w8ing bays as well 12:49:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> damn nice trains set :) 12:49:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> many different things they transprot 12:51:01 <V453000> I will get back in the evening and we can discuss it, but currently I see it as the same as PSB 12:51:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 12:52:05 <V453000> and you hope it isnt the same as PSB :P 12:52:47 <LoPo> hmmm? :P 12:53:12 <V453000> PSB with this short trains is the most wrong it can get probably 12:53:16 <V453000> anyway, cya for now I have to go to school x.x 12:53:23 <LoPo> k bb 12:55:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> can i nuke MM? 12:57:12 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002FFC6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002FFC6.png 12:59:37 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 13:00:16 *** pugi has quit IRC 13:02:42 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 13:12:17 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002E9B: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002E9B.png 13:12:27 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 13:14:24 <pugi> !password 13:14:24 <PublicServer> pugi: skimps 13:14:34 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 13:16:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> you can just use @tunnels 4 13:16:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> @@tunnels 4 13:16:36 <Webster> PublicServer: (tunnels <trainlength> [<split>]) -- Returns minimum and maximum signal gap sizes for 2,3 and 4 linesplits with <trainlength>. If <spilt> is given it will return the gap sizes for <split> (+/-) 1. 13:16:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> @@(tunnels 4) 13:16:45 <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 4: <= 10 needs 2, 11 - 16 needs 3, 17 - 22 needs 4. 13:16:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah yes 13:16:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... 3 13:16:56 <PublicServer> <pugi> <.< 13:16:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> 11 = 3 13:17:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> @@(tunnels 3) 13:17:02 <Webster> PublicServer: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4. 13:17:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> this is tl3 :D 13:17:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow 10 is 3? 13:17:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol 13:27:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000303D5: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000303D5.png 13:37:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah! 13:38:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> slh finnished :) 13:42:18 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000056C7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000056C7.png 13:47:31 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lol jam!!!! 13:47:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> broken prio at bbh 5 13:47:43 <PublicServer> <Tray> ? 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14:30:47 *** LXSJason has quit IRC 14:31:15 *** LXSJason has joined #openttdcoop 14:31:47 <Vinnie_nl> !password 14:31:47 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: ruffed 14:32:02 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 14:32:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hey 14:32:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> hello :) 14:32:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hey 14:32:25 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 14:41:42 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 14:42:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B3D1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003B3D1.png 14:49:56 <pugi> !password 14:49:56 <PublicServer> pugi: hearth 14:50:06 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 14:51:44 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 14:51:44 *** Tray has quit IRC 14:54:39 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 14:54:49 <Vinnie_nl> cya later 14:54:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> bb 14:55:58 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> how do we join to the ring, it is allowed? 14:56:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> where? 14:56:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> and which ring? :D 14:57:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> to get to all the raw in that area 14:57:19 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003DB90: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003DB90.png 14:57:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess someone needs to put an slh between bbh 1 and bbh 5 14:57:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> or use slh 4 14:57:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> up to windhattan springs from the south im connceting 14:58:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> btw xotic, you have some missing signals at your slh6 14:59:44 <PublicServer> <pugi> and a slh so close next to a bbh... well, not optimal 14:59:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> but might be okay 14:59:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 15:00:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> mine? 15:00:31 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> it was a little tight getting in there but I couldn't see any better way 15:00:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow 06 15:00:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah ill agree to disagree ;p 15:01:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> why not move it more east? 15:01:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> at !slh here 15:02:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess you can leave it for now 15:02:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> it'll work :P 15:02:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> this is public zone, not pro zone :D 15:02:45 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I can move if necessary, not much traffic out of there 15:03:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf :P 15:04:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> where is wtf? 15:04:01 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> was my 1st slh, didn't think it would be a (possible) problem 15:04:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i thought i needed to reverse the tracks :P 15:04:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 15:04:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but now they are R_L... 15:04:35 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so stupid me 15:05:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> dratborough oil wells has jab... right niext to slh7 :D 15:05:38 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> other than being close I assume that it is ok otherwise? 15:05:41 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trol 15:05:49 <PublicServer> <LoPo> omg my bad 15:06:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> also i like how it is directly next to slh7, but connected to slh5 :P 15:06:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :D 15:07:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> slh7 will get enought traffic anyway from north 15:07:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> /east 15:07:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 15:08:28 *** Dominik2000 has joined #openttdcoop 15:09:39 <Dominik2000> !password 15:09:39 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: sinned 15:09:56 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 15:09:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hey there 15:10:33 <Dominik2000> hello 15:10:52 <PublicServer> <pugi> hello :) 15:12:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D51C: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003D51C.png 15:16:14 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (connection lost) 15:16:31 <Dominik2000> !password 15:16:31 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: maples 15:16:45 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 15:17:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> 30 train enough for 1 primary? 15:17:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> trains* :P 15:18:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess :P 15:18:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> i have 14 for two woods :D 15:18:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> somehow it was never enough 15:18:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) well 10 is oky i think for a starter 15:19:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> atm only 72ton p/m 15:19:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> i always use three for a start... 15:19:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> then look again after 15 minutes or so 15:19:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> and maybe add more 15:19:38 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 15:19:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> but i am not very good with this :D 15:19:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which is 2/7 train a month... 15:21:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> have to go now 15:21:26 <PublicServer> <LoPo> NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! 15:21:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 15:21:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe i'll be back in 2-3 hours :D 15:21:40 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 15:21:52 *** pugi has quit IRC 15:27:22 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000C66: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000C66.png 15:39:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k im afk for some time 15:39:06 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 15:41:05 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 15:41:15 <Maraxus> !password 15:41:15 <PublicServer> Maraxus: morbid 15:41:32 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:41:49 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 15:42:15 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 15:42:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E66: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E66.png 15:42:24 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 15:47:13 <Dominik2000> !password 15:47:13 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: morbid 15:47:28 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 15:57:23 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000684: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000684.png 16:10:31 *** Firartix has quit IRC 16:12:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000245E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000245E.png 16:15:04 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah damn 16:15:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ore mine died :( 16:15:31 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined company #1 16:17:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which track was missing Maraxus? 16:17:52 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> slh06 has been moved now, is it better? 16:18:32 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> from the easternmost part of the station 16:19:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah i see them now :) 16:19:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx 16:19:18 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> np 16:21:28 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 16:22:51 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I assume that removing the sign was an affirmative 16:22:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 16:23:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah i think it better there 16:23:51 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 16:24:08 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> alot more track now than the other location and a funky loop :) 16:24:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P i dont like the loop tho ;) 16:24:44 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> lol, I didn't know how else to fit it in 16:26:34 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> I could butt it up to the bridge entrance but my guess is that you wouldn't like that? 16:26:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm? 16:27:24 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003D98F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003D98F.png 16:29:28 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> is the traffic really going to fill all of this track in this game, or is it all a bit excessive? 16:29:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 16:29:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i think it will 16:31:45 <Tray> !password 16:31:45 <PublicServer> Tray: thrash 16:32:14 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 16:42:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00002B6F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00002B6F.png 16:47:00 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 16:57:25 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00015FD7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00015FD7.png 16:59:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> dominik? 16:59:47 <Dominik2000> yes 17:00:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> plz check !check 17:00:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is not good :) 17:00:11 <Dominik2000> !check 17:01:46 <Dominik2000> what is not good? what mean you with !check 17:02:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the curfe is to teep 17:02:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> steep 17:02:11 <Dominik2000> oh ok, thanx 17:02:21 <PublicServer> <LoPo> train now slow down 17:02:30 <Dominik2000> ^found it sorry for the silly question 17:02:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 17:02:53 *** TWerkhoven has joined #openttdcoop 17:04:52 <Dominik2000> now a bit better? 17:05:20 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes :) 17:05:29 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is very good 17:05:41 <Dominik2000> perfect :) 17:10:21 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 17:10:31 <Dominik2000> it is allowed to change existing rails a bit? 17:10:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which? 17:11:36 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 17:11:36 <Dominik2000> in the north east corner 17:11:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ?? 17:12:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> put a sign 17:12:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003C230: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003C230.png 17:12:29 <Dominik2000> named it !here 17:12:49 <Dominik2000> want to split these two tracks on field 17:12:57 <Dominik2000> to get to the coal and ore mine 17:13:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ah 17:13:33 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no, or use SLH 01 or build a new SHL 17:14:04 <Dominik2000> ok 17:19:49 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 17:21:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> cant you connect those primaries to slh 04 Tray? 17:24:13 *** TheODM has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:31 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:48 *** Alastair_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:24:51 <Alastair_> Hey 17:24:55 <Alastair_> !password 17:24:55 <PublicServer> Alastair_: homier 17:24:57 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hello 17:24:59 <pugi> hello 17:25:08 <pugi> LoPo, i am back :D 17:25:11 <PublicServer> *** Alastair joined the game 17:25:13 <Dominik2000> who do you mean LoPo? 17:25:20 <PublicServer> <Alastair> evenin 17:25:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 17:25:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i was talking to Tray :P 17:25:43 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wb pugi 17:25:54 <PublicServer> <Alastair> I just came on... 17:26:00 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so I said hi... 17:26:14 <pugi> !password 17:26:14 <PublicServer> pugi: unfits 17:26:29 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 17:27:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003B3D1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003B3D1.png 17:27:33 *** Koronen has quit IRC 17:31:52 *** Koronen has joined #openttdcoop 17:31:55 *** ODM has quit IRC 17:36:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> uhm... lopo? 17:36:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 17:36:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> 6 platforms and 10 trains for 90tonnes of coal? o0 17:37:04 <PublicServer> <Alastair> are some industries deribetly left untouched? 17:37:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> in the middle at SLH 08 17:37:57 <PublicServer> <Alastair> Im just new, so Im wary of doing anything :L 17:38:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> just do it :D 17:38:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> if it is terribly wrong we can still kill it :D 17:38:46 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so I can start building to some of the untouched industries, but only if they not beside a hub? 17:39:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> you could basically connect anyone 17:39:26 <PublicServer> <Alastair> but I take it, they must be connected to correct lines? 17:39:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> but some might be in the way if some lines/stations needs expansions 17:39:40 <PublicServer> <Alastair> ah 17:39:46 <PublicServer> <pugi> you connect the primaries to sideline hubs 17:39:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> for example look in the sign list for SLH 08 17:40:05 <PublicServer> <Alastair> Have done :) 17:40:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> it has entry and exitz 17:40:15 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yep 17:40:23 <PublicServer> <Alastair> that for industries to be connected? 17:40:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> and there you can connect coal mine, ore mine, farm, forest... 17:40:35 <PublicServer> <Alastair> aha 17:40:45 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so, its better to connect them all at one place? 17:41:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> they have to be connected to the mainline via sideline hubs 17:41:16 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 17:41:26 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so that hub is part of a side line 17:41:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 17:41:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> the sideline starts at it :D 17:41:48 <PublicServer> <Alastair> ah 17:41:58 <PublicServer> <pugi> if you connect them directly to the mainline it might get blocked 17:42:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> and jam 17:42:06 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so NS on slh 08 is a mainline 17:42:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> might? :P 17:42:16 <PublicServer> <Alastair> but going NW from slh 08 will be a sidelione? 17:42:29 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003BDDF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003BDDF.png 17:42:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm? 17:42:40 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven joined the game 17:42:59 <PublicServer> <Alastair> So can I start building there? 17:43:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 17:43:08 <Dominik2000> yep 17:43:09 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yeah i get what you mean 17:43:17 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 17:43:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> anywhere in that area 17:43:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> you can't do much wrong ;) 17:43:47 <PublicServer> <Alastair> wanna bet :P 17:43:51 <PublicServer> <Alastair> but ill try my best... 17:44:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> so build a station with maybe 2 platforms next to some industry 17:44:14 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yeah 17:44:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> and connect entry and exit of it to sideline hub 17:44:40 <PublicServer> <Alastair> got ya 17:44:59 <PublicServer> <Alastair> do we do any terraforming? 17:45:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> if you must :) 17:45:20 <PublicServer> <pugi> as long as you don't just flatten huge areas it's okay 17:45:27 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 17:45:39 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so medium terraforming you call it? 17:45:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess 17:45:45 <PublicServer> <Alastair> read about it somewhere... 17:45:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> the network plan doesn't say anything about it 17:46:34 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined spectators 17:46:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> low TF 17:46:36 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 17:46:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> as alwasy 17:46:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> of TF when realy needed 17:46:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ofc* 17:48:49 <Dominik2000> there is no priority on slh 08 am I right? 17:49:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> heh, yeah 17:49:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> still missing 17:49:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hehe :P yeah that is not good 17:49:38 <Dominik2000> hmm can i try it? 17:50:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> go ahead 17:51:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> west part is done 17:51:20 <PublicServer> <Tray> Sorry LoPo, was AFK. 17:51:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you may do south 17:51:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow :) 17:51:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> np 17:52:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Dominik2000: you may do the priorities on the south part of SLH 08 17:52:36 <PublicServer> <Tray> I though about connecting them to SLH 04, but then made a new one that can also cover the prims east of the ML 17:52:42 <PublicServer> <Tray> At Freston 17:53:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> lopo: we made the easy prios :D 17:53:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ;P 17:53:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ofc we did ^^ 17:53:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> alastair: keep in mind that the trains need a curve length of 3 to be able to take them at full speed 17:54:05 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Tray: maybe conncet them to SLH 02 17:54:14 <Dominik2000> I can only do one line, i have no idea how to make the other two :) 17:54:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> dominik: just try it :D 17:54:30 <PublicServer> <Tray> well SLH 05 is ready, why not use it? 17:54:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> also, you can chat ingame by pressing enter 17:54:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah i was abuot to say taht :) 17:54:54 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thanks :) 17:54:54 <PublicServer> <LoPo> so nvm everything :P 17:54:56 <PublicServer> <Tray> and that whole area down to runbury is a quite large for 2 SLHs 17:55:02 <PublicServer> <Alastair> agreed... 17:55:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 17:55:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> also you could do one station at a time ;) 17:55:40 <PublicServer> <Alastair> lol 17:56:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> and you can terraform a diagonal area by pressing ctrl :) 17:56:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> just found out about that yesterday :D 17:56:22 <PublicServer> <Alastair> wow 17:56:25 <PublicServer> <Alastair> good tip :) 17:56:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> or was it this morning? 17:57:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002EEE0: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002EEE0.png 17:57:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> do you know how curve speed works? 17:57:32 <PublicServer> <LoPo> im going to eat, so afk :) 17:57:34 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yer 17:57:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> doesn't look like it :D 17:58:22 <PublicServer> <Alastair> :0 17:58:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k all the signs are pointing at something "wrong" 17:58:26 <PublicServer> <Alastair> I have to go for dinner 17:58:30 <PublicServer> <Alastair> can u finish my mess 17:58:32 <PublicServer> <Alastair> :0 17:58:38 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 17:58:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> you have to learn :P 17:59:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> if you do the basic layout and we correct all the small mistakes you'll never learn how to build properly :D 17:59:21 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 18:01:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> dominik: just add combo signal to the outer lane :) 18:01:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> or that :P 18:01:37 <PublicServer> <pugi> it was looking fine 18:01:39 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i panic :D 18:01:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> just missing signals 18:02:37 *** valhalla1w has joined #openttdcoop 18:02:49 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think that must work on this lane 18:03:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> worked ;) 18:03:15 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yep :) 18:03:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> but the combo on the outer line doesn't need to be two-way 18:03:39 <PublicServer> <pugi> i don't know, if it can actually make any problems... 18:04:03 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok this way 18:04:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> like this 18:04:27 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but the other lanes are difficult 18:05:11 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:05:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> not at all hard ;) 18:05:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> now you can do the last 18:05:31 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes is see :) 18:05:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> you can use one two-way combo in front of the merge 18:06:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> and it will still work 18:06:18 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yes to save space 18:06:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 18:06:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> as shown in the article :D 18:06:52 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i'm looking at it :) 18:07:06 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> done that 18:07:22 <PublicServer> <pugi> no, that is a signal that goes in the wrong direction 18:07:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> now 18:07:42 <PublicServer> <Tray> Alastair? 18:08:28 <PublicServer> <Alastair> back 18:08:30 <PublicServer> <pugi> oooh 18:08:32 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> there is a big jam 18:08:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> i see a huge jam 18:08:37 <PublicServer> <Alastair> tanks for the signs guys... 18:09:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> one train was stopped... 18:09:15 <PublicServer> <Tray> that's bad (: 18:09:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> that was one stopped train on the sideline... 18:09:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> jamming everything 18:11:05 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok priority is working on slh 8 18:11:21 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thanks pugi 18:11:21 <PublicServer> <Tray> thanks. 18:11:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> great 18:11:52 <PublicServer> <Tray> please add a sign to your work 18:12:07 <PublicServer> <Tray> something like 'prios /me 18:12:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> really? o0 18:12:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000252E3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000252E3.png 18:13:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> Alastair your are currently building 2tile-curves wich is one tile too short 18:14:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> he is away :P 18:14:03 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 18:14:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh 18:14:08 <PublicServer> <Alastair> im back 18:14:23 <PublicServer> <Tray> Maybe visit the wiki page about CL for further information 18:14:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> why don't you do one thing a t a time? ;) 18:14:25 <PublicServer> <Alastair> theres so little space... 18:15:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> how about this? 18:15:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> much easier 18:15:12 <PublicServer> <Alastair> bit hilly... 18:15:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> is there a problem with it being hilly? 18:15:37 <PublicServer> <Tray> trains are powerfull, there's no problem about mountains 18:15:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> also your uphill part was cl2 ;) 18:16:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> wait, noo 18:16:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is S-curve 18:17:01 <PublicServer> <pugi> sorry 18:17:05 <PublicServer> <Alastair> huh? 18:17:11 <PublicServer> <pugi> nevermind 18:17:17 <PublicServer> <Tray> everything is alright about that part now 18:20:40 <Dominik2000> ok guys. thank you. bye 18:21:00 <PublicServer> <Alastair> farm station look ok now? 18:21:36 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 has left the game (leaving) 18:22:17 <PublicServer> <Alastair> is it all fine now? 18:22:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> still a cl2 18:22:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm 18:22:36 <PublicServer> <Alastair> i see it 18:23:53 <PublicServer> <Tray> please change you signal width to two tiles 18:23:57 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 18:24:09 <PublicServer> <Alastair> i had 2, but i changef to 1 as i thought it too far spaced... 18:25:32 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has joined spectators 18:25:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> use signal gap 2, but put a signal right behind and after each split 18:25:58 <PublicServer> <Alastair> got you 18:26:06 <PublicServer> <pugi> before and behind... 18:26:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> not behind and after <.< 18:26:26 *** Eightbitpwny has joined #openttdcoop 18:26:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> do you know which trains to use? 18:27:03 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yes 18:27:13 <PublicServer> <Alastair> not usre where to send them thogh... 18:27:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> and how to use shared orders? :D 18:27:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> copy a train from the trainyard 18:27:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> normal copy 18:27:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00000A35: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00000A35.png 18:27:32 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yep 18:27:34 <PublicServer> <pugi> then give that train the orders 18:27:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> and then ctrl+copy them to make then use shared orders 18:28:21 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah... 18:28:26 <PublicServer> <Alastair> no idea how many to use... 18:28:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> your farm has no seperate stations 18:28:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is one single station 18:28:36 <PublicServer> <Alastair> oops 18:28:42 <PublicServer> <Alastair> it was seperate before 18:28:48 <PublicServer> <Alastair> I didnt mean that... 18:28:48 <PublicServer> <pugi> add the second one while holding ctrl 18:28:50 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay :) 18:29:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> i use 3 for each station in the beginning... 18:29:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> then check again after some time how they are doing 18:29:27 <PublicServer> <Alastair> yep 18:29:37 <PublicServer> <Alastair> dammirt 18:29:39 <PublicServer> <Alastair> lost 18:30:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> my fault, sorry :) 18:30:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> wanted to fix the label 18:30:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> so they aren't overlapping 18:30:43 <PublicServer> <Alastair> sent him back :) 18:30:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 18:32:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> and you need to sign each station :) 18:32:19 <PublicServer> <Alastair> done :) 18:32:21 <PublicServer> <Alastair> aha 18:32:23 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 18:33:32 <PublicServer> <Alastair> so i put my name? 18:33:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes 18:33:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> just look at other stations 18:40:04 <PublicServer> <Alastair> I take it, we dont transport passengers/mail? 18:40:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> correct 18:40:16 <PublicServer> <Alastair> why? 18:40:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> because we would need another completely different network 18:40:55 <PublicServer> <Alastair> ah 18:41:01 <PublicServer> <Alastair> they produce so much? 18:41:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> mmh, not really... 18:41:18 <PublicServer> <Alastair> just the extra hubs needed? 18:41:32 <PublicServer> <pugi> but it isn't very clear where they get transported to 18:41:36 <PublicServer> <Alastair> ah 18:41:39 <PublicServer> <Alastair> that makes sense 18:41:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> and cities grow 18:42:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> so usually we do either industry cargo or passenger transport 18:42:30 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0002AEE2: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0002AEE2.png 18:42:34 <PublicServer> <Alastair> k 18:42:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> i can't tell you why exactly :D 18:43:50 <PublicServer> <Alastair> I think my area is finished 18:44:04 <PublicServer> <Alastair> Im just keeping an eye on how many trains are needed 18:46:36 <PublicServer> <Alastair> can i build a line over the mainline 18:46:39 <PublicServer> <Alastair> from that forest? 18:51:05 <PublicServer> *** Alastair has left the game (leaving) 18:52:33 *** hanf has joined #openttdcoop 19:01:28 <V453000> !password 19:01:28 <PublicServer> V453000: tweaks 19:01:30 <V453000> evening folks 19:01:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 19:02:01 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:02:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> how are things? 19:02:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see some movement :) 19:08:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> someone killed vinnies plan :O 19:08:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course 19:08:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did 19:08:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> i carefully tunneled his plan :D 19:08:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> putting rails through it is just a mess 19:09:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> i have 30 trains on my 3x forest :D 19:09:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh and hi V :) 19:09:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi hi :) 19:09:41 <PublicServer> <pugi> i finished your beer pickup this afternoon 19:09:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> O :( 19:09:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2 forests be fine, but the 3rd is plain ugly 19:10:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> forest vanished shortly after you went away 19:10:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah... wasn't sure about the third forest... 19:10:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> IMO it would be nice to get rid of walks completely 19:10:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I know I noticed, thanks 19:10:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> I suggest rebuilding the primaries there 19:10:43 <PublicServer> <Tray> V is this your 5th plan in a row? 19:10:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont know I dont watch that 19:11:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> pugi: replacing farm with wood, and moving farm station around 19:11:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> okay 19:11:28 <PublicServer> <pugi> it is all a bit cramped there 19:11:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> will be ok 19:11:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> and the second forest popped up after i finished the three other stations 19:12:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am not saying you did something WRONG :p 19:12:09 <PublicServer> <pugi> yes, you do :P 19:12:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> the third stationwalk is bad :P 19:12:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> and i know that :D 19:12:29 <PublicServer> <Tray> What do you think about why your plans are that succesfull? 19:12:34 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00035EA3: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00035EA3.png 19:12:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> they are good? 19:14:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> that might not be the best way pugi :D 19:14:31 <PublicServer> <pugi> i didn't want to do the same boring terminus everywhere :D 19:14:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> waht about 19:14:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> ;) 19:15:04 <PublicServer> <pugi> oh... there is another square... 19:15:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont blame the landscape :) 19:15:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> i didn't see it behind the forest 19:15:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> it blocked my sight :P 19:15:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah :) 19:17:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> looks nicer :) 19:19:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh crap 19:19:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> SOMEBODY does not use nonstop orders 19:19:12 <PublicServer> <pugi> hm? 19:19:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> ... 19:19:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes somebody :P 19:19:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh who would it be 19:19:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> i guess alastair 19:19:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 19:19:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is on your trains 19:19:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> no 19:19:40 <PublicServer> <pugi> NO 19:19:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> no? :) 19:19:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> it wasn't me 19:20:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> then who did your forests etc :D 19:20:14 <PublicServer> <pugi> i did my orders properly! 19:20:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe someone else messed around with them 19:20:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> guilty. 19:23:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: what do you think about the plans? :) 19:27:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000107B9: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000107B9.png 19:29:09 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> interesting - none of the buildings in the town near goods drop accept goods... 19:29:36 <PublicServer> <pugi> cool :D 19:29:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol it did some time ago 19:29:53 <PublicServer> <pugi> goods are just being dropped :D 19:30:07 *** Alastair_ has quit IRC 19:31:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> ok :) 19:39:58 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 19:39:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 19:41:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:41:23 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 19:41:24 <PublicServer> <pugi> hello 19:41:28 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:41:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains :) 19:41:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> :o SLH06 19:42:13 <PublicServer> <pugi> he moved it 19:42:22 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 19:42:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> interesting circle 19:42:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> :D 19:42:35 <Chris_Booth> hi all 19:42:35 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00003021: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00003021.png 19:42:43 <PublicServer> <mfb> and balancing, what is that? 19:42:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 19:43:24 <Chris_Booth> hows it going in the world of coop? 19:43:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh interesting loop indeed :D 19:43:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> going well as always 19:44:06 <Chris_Booth> nice, though I would just drop in and say hi 19:44:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> seaborn trains :D :D 19:44:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 19:44:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi chris 19:44:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi. 19:45:18 <Chris_Booth> I have done some more work for you V453000 19:45:24 <V453000> :) 19:45:29 <Chris_Booth> will upload it at the weekend 19:45:40 <V453000> cool stuff :) 19:45:43 <V453000> Mazur did some as well 19:46:43 <Chris_Booth> got 2 MUs and a loco 19:46:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> ooh awesome 19:46:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> in indexed colour? :P 19:47:08 <Chris_Booth> now yes 19:47:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> LoPo: work incoming at BBH06 ;) 19:47:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :) 19:47:36 <LoPo> ? 19:47:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> see signs 19:47:56 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah that part i did not build :P 19:48:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 19:48:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 19:48:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that was nicfercoop :P 19:48:17 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ill fix it soon 19:48:53 <PublicServer> <LoPo> DAMN! 19:48:55 <PublicServer> <LoPo> you got me 19:49:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but i made that one for you ;) 19:49:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> well, easy to fix 19:50:01 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 19:50:09 <pugi> need to play 1.6 now :D 19:50:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> of what? 19:50:31 <V453000> cs 19:50:32 <V453000> I suppose 19:50:50 <pugi> counterstrike, yes 19:51:16 <pugi> some 5on5 ;) 19:51:25 <V453000> ooh, gayparty 19:51:30 <V453000> :P 19:51:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, I think I got everything 19:53:19 <pugi> not gay :D 19:53:26 <pugi> there is even a girl in my team :P 19:54:30 <V453000> that does not mean the cant be gay 19:57:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000080F6: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000080F6.png 19:59:50 <XeryusTC> which plan has won? 19:59:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> V 20:00:06 <XeryusTC> hmm, big surprise xD 20:00:26 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC joined the game 20:00:40 <Vinnie_nl> !password 20:00:40 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: garnet 20:00:53 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 20:00:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 20:01:07 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 20:01:33 <PublicServer> <XeryusTC> bbh6 is not lopo's first bbh is it? 20:01:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh oh :D 20:02:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> 05 was earlier 20:02:10 <Chris_Booth> well I will love you guys and leave you 20:02:53 *** Chris_Booth has left #openttdcoop 20:08:04 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 20:10:08 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 20:12:36 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0003E7EE: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0003E7EE.png 20:16:53 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 20:17:14 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 20:18:31 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 20:20:36 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost) 20:21:13 <mfb-> !password 20:21:13 <PublicServer> mfb-: tilted 20:21:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh I wanted to ramble that pugi is slow again :D 20:22:04 <mfb-> not this time 20:22:05 <pugi> XeryusTC, after my plan the plan from V was the best :P 20:22:22 <XeryusTC> xD 20:22:39 <PublicServer> *** XeryusTC has left the game (leaving) 20:25:24 <mfb-> hmm 20:27:22 <mfb-> i hope that helped 20:27:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> we too 20:27:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E7E: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E7E.png 20:27:40 <mfb-> :p 20:29:12 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 20:29:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 20:29:28 * mfb- gives up for the moment 20:29:29 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 20:29:42 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 20:38:37 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ow no.... 20:39:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 20:42:37 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000B00F: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000B00F.png 20:50:35 <PublicServer> *** LoPo has left the game (connection lost) 20:56:28 *** UncleCJ has quit IRC 20:56:49 *** Firartix has quit IRC 20:58:19 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 21:00:01 <PublicServer> *** Xotic750 has joined company #1 21:00:10 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 21:12:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000006A1: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000006A1.png 21:17:47 <LoPo> !players 21:17:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1226 (Orange) is V453000, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:17:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1138 (Orange) is Dilandau, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:17:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1184 (Orange) is Tray, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:17:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 874 (Orange) is Xotic750, in company 1 (Binnbridge Transport) 21:17:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: Client 1208 is TWerkhoven, a spectator 21:18:07 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 21:19:46 <pugi> any significant updates? :D 21:20:09 *** Tray|2 has joined #openttdcoop 21:26:18 *** Tray has quit IRC 21:28:02 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:39:31 <Dominik2000> !password 21:39:31 <PublicServer> Dominik2000: panged 21:39:33 <Dominik2000> hello 21:39:44 <PublicServer> *** Dominik2000 joined the game 21:39:55 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> hi 21:42:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00029ABB: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00029ABB.png 21:55:44 *** valhalla1w has quit IRC 21:56:48 <LoPo> !password 21:56:49 <PublicServer> LoPo: frieze 21:57:00 <PublicServer> *** LoPo joined the game 21:57:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000298DF: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000298DF.png 21:59:50 *** DayDreamer has quit IRC 22:05:57 <Dominik2000> What about the streets, I marked with !Streets? 22:06:48 <V453000> penalties 22:06:55 <V453000> the more streets, the more trains hate to go to that line 22:07:08 <pugi> (hopefully) 22:07:19 <pugi> !password 22:07:19 <PublicServer> pugi: frieze 22:07:28 <PublicServer> *** pugi joined the game 22:07:40 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> whats bad on this lanes? 22:08:00 <PublicServer> <pugi> i don't know where it is 22:08:10 <PublicServer> <pugi> but it probably is for better balancing of the platforms 22:08:14 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau has left the game (leaving) 22:08:22 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i marked it again 22:08:35 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah yes 22:08:43 <PublicServer> <pugi> better balancing 22:08:53 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok 22:09:00 <mfb-> trains dislike road crossings 22:09:07 <PublicServer> <pugi> so the trains won't always use the first platforms they can reach 22:09:12 <mfb-> same with reversed pbs signals and stations 22:09:28 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i understand 22:09:32 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thanx 22:10:19 <PublicServer> <LoPo> rrr 22:10:30 <PublicServer> <LoPo> now i have to fix the ^%#$^# of nicfercoop :P 22:10:42 <PublicServer> <pugi> heh V 22:11:02 <PublicServer> <pugi> there is 1050/600 wood waiting again on my little island :D 22:12:38 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001E68: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001E68.png 22:14:47 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 22:14:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah, better 22:24:47 <PublicServer> <LoPo> Dominik2000: are you building a SLH? 22:24:58 <Dominik2000> i try 22:24:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice traffic towards LV/Steel N 22:25:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> good :) 22:25:44 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> have I done anything false? 22:26:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> we might get livestock or ore there 22:26:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> no i was just wondering 22:27:29 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok :) 22:27:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0000E78A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000E78A.png 22:28:24 *** TheODM has quit IRC 22:28:26 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> how can I add prio to !here 22:28:45 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i could make the first sign a combo 22:28:53 *** Tray|2 has quit IRC 22:29:08 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> wow 22:29:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? 22:29:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yes 22:29:24 <PublicServer> <LoPo> or move it 1 tile 22:30:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> and there is your prio :) 22:30:26 <PublicServer> <pugi> easy 22:30:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> yeah ;P 22:30:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> thx man :D 22:30:49 <PublicServer> <pugi> i know i struggled with prios the first months :D 22:30:52 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok i try the second lane :D 22:30:55 <PublicServer> <pugi> i never even tried to understand them :D 22:32:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> the other is a combo backwards 22:33:19 <PublicServer> <pugi> hmm 22:33:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> the ls/steel goods pickup has no exit balancing 22:33:51 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> there is no train to test it :D 22:33:57 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 22:34:03 <PublicServer> <pugi> but it will 22:34:06 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the hub balances it :P 22:34:12 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but yeah 22:34:22 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there is also no entrance balance 22:35:30 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:42:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00011BB7: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00011BB7.png 22:43:13 *** hanf has quit IRC 22:53:25 <PublicServer> <LoPo> dont build to spreat out dominik 22:53:33 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok 22:53:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> see the sign 22:53:42 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> yeah 22:53:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> try to build it htere 22:54:08 <PublicServer> <LoPo> also that bridge you can move it more up north 22:54:23 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and that long one ;P 22:54:27 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is not good 22:54:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> especially at Hubs 22:55:37 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> it looks very easy but I need much more time to get what i want :) 22:55:39 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lez first move that bridge up :) 22:55:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) and take your time ofc 22:56:00 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> which bridge? 22:57:27 <PublicServer> <pugi> this is a tricky spot... 22:57:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 22:57:33 <PublicServer> <pugi> you could try reversing ;) 22:57:37 <PublicServer> <mfb> I know 22:57:39 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001667: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001667.png 22:57:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> it is super easy with 22:57:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> that is the easy sollution 22:57:45 <PublicServer> <pugi> like V likes to do 22:57:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> or with smaller curves 22:57:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> or other stuff 22:58:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> I try to fit it in without ;) 22:58:20 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 22:58:39 <Dilandau> !password 22:58:40 <PublicServer> Dilandau: salmon 22:58:51 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Lo. 22:58:52 <PublicServer> *** Dilandau joined the game 22:58:53 <PublicServer> <Dilandau> hi 22:59:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 22:59:17 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> hi 23:00:50 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> ok that looks better :) 23:00:51 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 23:01:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> also the merg is now after the bridge 23:01:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> which is beter imo 23:01:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> fitting is just a matter of perspective :D 23:01:45 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) totally true 23:02:44 <PublicServer> <LoPo> btw dont be afraid to move change the ML :) 23:03:41 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> thats the better way or not? 23:04:01 <PublicServer> <LoPo> this is better than back there 23:04:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> there is a nice trick to do this... 23:04:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> move the ML a bit, as LoPo said 23:04:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> does it involve dark magic? 23:05:09 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> in which direction? 23:05:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> hehe 23:05:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> so that you can access the second line 23:05:46 <PublicServer> <LoPo> want a hint? 23:05:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> that was a hint 23:06:00 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :) 23:06:18 <PublicServer> <LoPo> fair enough 23:07:58 <PublicServer> <LoPo> :P 23:08:14 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 23:08:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> sorry :P 23:09:07 <PublicServer> <LoPo> look at other SLH for inspiration :) 23:10:40 <PublicServer> <LoPo> man, when i see all that SLH building :P i want to build one myself :D 23:10:54 <PublicServer> <pugi> do it :D 23:10:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> pufingford? 23:11:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> wtf 23:11:18 <PublicServer> <pugi> add slh at Nunpool 23:11:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> SLH02 is one-way? 23:11:34 <PublicServer> <LoPo> some are yes 23:11:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah goods drop 23:11:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> fine 23:11:51 <PublicServer> <pugi> i first built slh 01 two-way 23:11:59 <PublicServer> <pugi> until i realized there is goods drop only :D 23:12:37 *** TWerkhoven has quit IRC 23:12:38 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven has left the game (connection lost) 23:12:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 00001C70: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/00001C70.png 23:13:16 <PublicServer> <pugi> ah yeah, slh near pufingford is needed more i think 23:13:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> hmmm :P k 23:14:17 <PublicServer> <pugi> i added two possible spots 23:14:23 <PublicServer> <pugi> maybe one before sawmill 23:14:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> 06 would be better in the other direction I think 23:15:05 <PublicServer> <pugi> yeah 23:15:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> or one near henborough 23:15:15 <PublicServer> <pugi> he had it first directly next to henborough bay lakeside 23:15:25 <PublicServer> <pugi> directly at the exit of bbh 3 23:15:29 <PublicServer> <pugi> then he moved it 23:15:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 23:15:48 <PublicServer> <Xotic750> as suggested 23:16:08 <PublicServer> <pugi> btw mfb: awesome 95 tile bridge in the northwest corner :D 23:16:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> hehe 23:16:36 <PublicServer> <LoPo> i started atPufingford 23:17:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> (it had to be done) 23:18:42 <PublicServer> <LoPo> and guess who put the first sign there ;) 23:18:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> the one in the corner? 23:19:11 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ye 23:19:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> :) 23:23:38 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i didn't get my cl 23:23:57 <mfb-> ? 23:24:02 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ? :P 23:24:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> ah 23:24:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is not a good idea 23:24:15 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> :) 23:24:32 <PublicServer> <mfb> try a bridge in the other direction :) 23:27:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 0001186A: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0001186A.png 23:28:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 23:28:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> balancing :/ 23:28:10 <PublicServer> <LoPo> ugly 23:28:14 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wut? 23:28:16 <PublicServer> <mfb> but ok, traffic is low for that direction 23:31:29 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> the bridge? 23:31:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> no, the split 23:32:21 <PublicServer> <mfb> not so long 23:32:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 23:32:59 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok, prio will get a bit tricky 23:33:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> but possible 23:33:19 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think it's not looking good for you 23:33:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 23:33:59 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think you are not very happy with my solution 23:34:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> I would have moved it ~2 tiles to the east 23:34:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> so it is away from the other stuff 23:34:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> MUWHAHAHAHA 23:34:42 <PublicServer> <mfb> and the bridge is more to the south 23:34:50 <PublicServer> <LoPo> lopo wins :P 50% done 23:34:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> like that 23:34:58 <PublicServer> <mfb> 50% done? 23:35:29 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> then i have to move the ML also 23:35:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> indeed 23:36:07 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> but if i do that, i get a big jam i think, there are many trains 23:39:29 <PublicServer> *** pugi has left the game (leaving) 23:42:38 <PublicServer> <LoPo> dominik stopped building? 23:42:43 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000109C4: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000109C4.png 23:42:44 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> no no 23:42:54 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> i think how I can get it working 23:42:59 <PublicServer> <LoPo> k 23:44:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> that looks nice 23:44:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> CL 23:46:32 <PublicServer> <Dominik2000> correct now? 23:47:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> that will require a pbs split, but it is possible 23:52:48 <PublicServer> <LoPo> wtf! 23:53:03 <PublicServer> <LoPo> secret train inside tunnel? 23:53:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> lopo does not like our trains? 23:54:13 <PublicServer> <LoPo> there is a second one 23:54:15 <PublicServer> <LoPo> train 544 23:56:24 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:56:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> ugly ML signal gaps :( 23:56:52 <PublicServer> <LoPo> stil wip :P 23:57:16 <PublicServer> <LoPo> but i agree 23:57:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> the MLs or the SLH? ;) 23:57:28 <PublicServer> <LoPo> the signals 23:57:44 <PublicServer> *** made screenshot at 000133AD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/000133AD.png