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00:23:59 *** Rhamphoryncus has joined #openttdcoop 00:40:50 *** Zuu has quit IRC 00:53:49 *** Mazur has quit IRC 00:54:49 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 02:01:35 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 03:29:01 *** KByte has joined #openttdcoop 04:10:18 *** andy|p has quit IRC 06:17:14 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 06:53:46 *** TWerkhoven[l] has joined #openttdcoop 06:56:52 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:45:54 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 08:08:35 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 08:58:59 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 09:12:55 *** Dixon has joined #openttdcoop 09:17:56 <Dixon> !password 09:17:56 <PublicServer> Dixon: claret 09:18:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:18:13 <PublicServer> *** Dixon: joined the game 09:21:13 <PublicServer> *** Dixon: has left the game (leaving) 09:26:46 <Mark> V453000: oh cool :) 09:26:53 <Mark> not as epic as i remembered though 09:28:20 <Mark> !password 09:28:20 <PublicServer> Mark: claret 09:28:41 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 09:28:41 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 09:30:48 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 09:40:14 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 10:00:19 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 10:02:56 *** Dixon__ has joined #openttdcoop 10:07:16 *** Dixon has quit IRC 10:07:23 *** Dixon__ is now known as Dixon 10:24:17 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 10:25:19 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:25:21 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 10:27:27 *** condac has joined #openttdcoop 10:29:23 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (leaving) 10:29:49 *** smoovi has quit IRC 10:30:03 <Tray> !passworld 10:30:13 <Tray> !password 10:30:13 <PublicServer> Tray: claret 10:30:33 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:30:33 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 10:31:19 *** Dixon has quit IRC 10:33:55 *** burns has quit IRC 10:34:09 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 10:38:59 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 10:53:44 <V453000> !password 10:53:44 <PublicServer> V453000: claret 10:53:54 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 10:53:54 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 10:54:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 11:01:32 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 11:01:38 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 11:18:37 <sietse> !password 11:18:37 <PublicServer> sietse: nugget 11:18:42 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 11:18:43 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:19:08 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:19:09 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 11:24:40 <Mark> !password 11:24:41 <PublicServer> Mark: nugget 11:25:12 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:25:15 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 11:30:25 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined spectators 11:56:36 *** Hazzard_ has joined #openttdcoop 11:58:35 <Hazzard_> !password 11:58:35 <PublicServer> Hazzard_: sperms 11:58:42 <Hazzard_> o_o 11:59:07 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:59:10 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 12:00:42 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Looks like a lot of the problems have been fixed 12:01:18 <PublicServer> *** Mark has joined company #1 12:01:18 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:01:21 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Hello 12:01:26 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 12:01:30 <PublicServer> <Mark> plenty left to fix though 12:01:52 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I'm sure 12:02:06 <PublicServer> <Mark> redoing my bbh join i think 12:02:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> its a mess 12:02:56 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I don't known what is going on there 12:02:56 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> So many rails 12:03:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> hehe 12:03:48 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> That think is massive 12:03:49 <Tray> !password 12:03:50 <PublicServer> Tray: sperms 12:04:11 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 12:04:19 <PublicServer> <Mark> who the fuck funded a statue in Zama Lake 12:04:22 <PublicServer> <Mark> ... 12:05:20 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Gtg 12:05:34 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I'll be back 12:05:37 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 12:11:08 <V453000> !password 12:11:08 <PublicServer> V453000: sperms 12:11:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> o/ 12:11:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 12:12:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 12:20:57 <Hazzard_> Hey V 12:21:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 12:26:44 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard_ liked to make screenshot of last action, but nobody was working since. (http://ps.openttdcoop.org/publicserver/webcam/0000215F.png) 12:26:53 *** Hazzard_ is now known as Hazzard 12:30:57 <Maraxus> !password 12:30:57 <PublicServer> Maraxus: strums 12:31:11 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 12:31:16 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 12:31:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 12:34:01 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 12:34:25 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 12:34:40 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Dammit 12:34:54 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> i am getting about 3 frames a second 12:38:04 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 12:40:49 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (general timeout) 12:40:50 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 12:50:09 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (processing map took too long) 12:50:10 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (connection lost) 12:51:06 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 12:52:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> phew, who said this hub isnt expandable :D 12:52:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Which one? 12:52:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> 04 of course 12:52:49 * Rhamphoryncus thinks V runs on LSD 12:52:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :( 12:53:05 <PublicServer> <Mark> yeah it now has 4 dimensions 12:53:11 <Rhamphoryncus> exactly 12:53:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 12:53:22 <Rhamphoryncus> also "anything is possible if you can imagine it" 12:53:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> on lsd? :D 12:53:53 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Then where are my self regulating boat networks ? 12:54:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> can you imagine them? 12:54:06 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah 12:54:08 <PublicServer> <Mark> ottd on acid would be interesting 12:54:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Which hub did you expand? 12:54:38 <Rhamphoryncus> Hazzard: don't tempt me :P 12:54:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> I maintain only one hub 12:54:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> not hard to guess :p 12:55:25 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Mark's Hub? 12:55:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> ... 12:55:36 <PublicServer> <Mark> his own obviously 12:55:40 <PublicServer> <Tray> Jes'. 12:55:40 <PublicServer> <Tray> -.- 12:56:10 <PublicServer> <Mark> wanna make another input there V? 12:56:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> im going 6 on mine 12:56:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6? 12:56:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have 5 now 12:56:24 <PublicServer> <Mark> think so 12:56:28 <PublicServer> <Mark> nicer number than 5 :P 12:56:35 <PublicServer> <Mark> i can leave one unsused for a bit of course 12:56:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> :/ 12:57:03 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You didn't expand that hub 12:57:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> just inside 12:57:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt increase footprint 12:57:14 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> You just shoved another hub underneath it 12:57:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 12:57:31 <Rhamphoryncus> Hrm. I think any non-trivial self regulating boat network I'd make would exceed the order list limit due to the buoys. 12:57:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> the center is getting funny 12:58:09 <Rhamphoryncus> !password 12:58:09 <PublicServer> Rhamphoryncus: hazels 12:58:20 <PublicServer> *** Rhamphoryncus joined the game 12:58:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> Mark: we can just shove somewhere the 6th until it is needed, and then just add it somehow 12:59:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> of course 12:59:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> just make it we will deal with it somehow 12:59:18 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has joined company #1 13:00:32 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I thihnk there are too many trains going to the oil hub at the bottom 13:00:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you say 13:00:45 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> NVM 13:00:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol :> 13:01:15 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Needs moar 13:01:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, Slave Mark is adding stuff :p 13:01:42 <PublicServer> <Mark> :) 13:05:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> yay for circular jam 13:10:16 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Bleh, Terwillegar Towne. I say we bulldoze it on principle. 13:10:54 <PublicServer> <Mark> oh what principle? :P 13:11:10 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> The principle that I live in edmonton? 13:11:16 <PublicServer> <Mark> heh 13:11:28 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> And there's no calgary, so.. 13:13:23 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> It does have 2 banks 13:13:45 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> hmm, remove some signals at that temp WIP join and it might flow better 13:13:46 *** Mazur has quit IRC 13:13:59 <PublicServer> <Mark> go for it 13:13:59 *** Mazur has joined #openttdcoop 13:14:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think any signals hurt there 13:14:25 <PublicServer> *** Mazur joined the game 13:16:42 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Do maps normally get this messy? 13:16:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> what is messy 13:16:55 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The map 13:16:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> you aint seen nuttin yet 13:17:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> well BBH 04 is getting pretty fuck-nuts 13:17:28 <PublicServer> <Mazur> This is hte cleanest, clearest, most organised map we've had in years. 13:17:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> xD 13:19:27 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> There are a lot of stacked tunnels 13:19:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is a lot of everything atop of everything else 13:19:50 <PublicServer> <Mazur> Best way for things. 13:20:45 <PublicServer> <Mazur> After all, OpenTTD is a full and active member of the Society for putting things on top of other things. 13:21:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 13:21:11 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I agree when you say V has started building in another dimetion 13:21:56 <Mazur> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-kfRREA8M 13:21:57 <Webster> Title: Monty Python Royal Society for Putting Things on top of other things legendas - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 13:22:00 <Hazzard> China comes to mind 13:24:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> "what are we doing wasting our lives on all this nonsense" :D 13:25:11 <PublicServer> <Mark> speak for yourself 13:25:13 <PublicServer> <Mark> i dont have a life 13:25:15 <Hazzard> http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/19/article-1332162903535-123C3CC4000005DC-351628_466x310.jpg 13:25:39 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> me either 13:25:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright, I have 5 input and 5 output for you now Mark 13:25:57 <PublicServer> <Mark> yay 13:25:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> who does ... 13:27:19 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Wish you could limit acceleration rate, not just max speed 13:27:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm? 13:27:38 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Why/ 13:27:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> why would you ever want your trains to accelerate less 13:27:55 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> The reason my signal gap hack is irregular is trains weigh different amounts 13:28:02 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> different cargos, some loaded, some unloaded 13:28:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 13:28:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh lol 13:28:28 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> So if I could limit them to the slowest accelerator then I could fine tune the timing 13:28:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> that would be just stupid 13:28:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> imo 13:28:45 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> stupid like a fox! 13:29:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> better use better some nicer merging which doesnt rely on timing :) OR make sure that your trains are equal weights 13:31:53 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Oh look, a gravity-assisted merge, that's totally not manipulating the acceleration rate ;) 13:32:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is 13:32:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it just improves it 13:32:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> not matter how good trains accelerate 13:32:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> it always works, while your timing works only with the appropriate acceleration 13:33:02 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> It'll increase heavier trains more, reducing the variation of fastest to slowest 13:33:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> so? 13:33:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats good isnt it 13:33:25 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> So that's the same thing as what I was asking for 13:33:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Isn't that the goad? 13:33:30 <PublicServer> <Mazur> I think that was his point. 13:33:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think I understand what do you want 13:34:14 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Basically a hack to make all trains pretend they're loaded 13:34:18 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> More gravity, like in Canada 13:34:33 <PublicServer> <Mazur> He jsut stated that for if someone had not realised that, because it helps, indeed, solve the aforementioned problem. 13:35:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> well by making all trains loaded you wouldnt have to distinguish them at all, which is sometimes very vital in merging after main stations for example 13:35:10 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> But I don't seriously want it. There's better improvements that'd make it unnecessary 13:35:31 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> yup 13:37:38 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Ah, Daft Punk, good music 13:38:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> soilwork <3 13:40:57 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 13:42:30 <Hazzard> What is that 13:44:23 <PublicServer> <Mark> crap 13:44:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> they dumb 13:44:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> their fault 13:46:21 *** CornishPasty has quit IRC 13:46:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> we kinda need the output of BBH 04 now Mark :D 13:50:28 <PublicServer> <Mark> omg 13:51:38 <PublicServer> <Mark> hook up 5th if you want 13:51:40 <PublicServer> <Mark> made a temp join 13:51:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> you just did? 13:51:58 <PublicServer> <Mark> yea 13:52:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 13:54:57 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 13:55:22 *** CornishPasty has joined #openttdcoop 13:55:39 <PublicServer> <Mark> well 13:55:41 <PublicServer> <Mark> that works 13:55:55 <PublicServer> <Mark> for now 13:56:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:03:20 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 14:04:46 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 14:11:24 <sietse> !password 14:11:24 <PublicServer> sietse: mosses 14:11:33 <PublicServer> *** Sietse has left the game (connection lost) 14:11:55 <PublicServer> *** Sietse joined the game 14:11:56 <PublicServer> <Sietse> hody 14:11:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi :) 14:12:01 <PublicServer> <Sietse> howdy* 14:12:09 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 14:21:30 *** Firestar has joined #openttdcoop 14:21:32 <Firestar> hi 14:21:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 14:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (general timeout) 14:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (connection lost) 14:21:59 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> Okay, my overflow skills need work XD 14:22:10 <Firestar> how are things? 14:22:35 <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game 14:22:46 <PublicServer> <Rhamphoryncus> My overflow functions.. but will loop the trains forever until there's a spot 14:22:50 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has joined company #1 14:31:38 <PublicServer> *** Mazur has left the game (connection lost) 14:38:38 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 14:38:56 *** Firestar has quit IRC 14:40:28 <PublicServer> *** {TWerkhoven[l]} joined the game 14:40:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 14:41:55 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Good night 14:41:55 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 14:42:19 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 14:46:17 <PublicServer> *** Rhamphoryncus has left the game (leaving) 14:58:12 *** KByte has quit IRC 15:06:42 *** smoovi has quit IRC 15:09:03 <PublicServer> *** TWerkhoven[l] has left the game (leaving) 15:12:39 <V453000> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nITLob098W8 amazing 15:12:40 <Webster> Title: Vytautas Mineral Water! Its Earths Juice! - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) 15:12:49 <Mark> what? :D 15:12:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> look at it 15:17:33 <Maraxus> it's garbage or pure genius, you decide :) 15:17:46 <V453000> the latter! 15:18:32 <Mark> what the 15:20:41 <V453000> vytautas is earths juice. fuck yeah 15:21:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> hard to comprehend? :D 15:34:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> refinery candy complete =D 15:37:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> factory looks great with the amount of trains :) 15:38:02 <Mark> is that sarcastic? :P 15:38:02 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> :) 15:38:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> well they stand a lot but everything works well 15:39:57 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:39:57 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:44:39 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 15:49:35 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 16:15:12 *** sbn has joined #openttdcoop 16:15:19 <sbn> Sup guys 16:19:35 <V453000> hello 16:19:49 <V453000> welcome to the nuthouse 16:23:07 <sbn> I've been here before, no worries ;) 16:23:34 * planetmaker welcomes back sbn 16:23:40 <sbn> sup planetmaker 16:23:49 <sbn> long time no see (though that's my fault) 16:24:09 <planetmaker> shit happens. RL happens :-) 16:24:25 <sbn> idd 16:24:50 <sbn> Don't always waste your time on the internet or you'll become a zombie 16:24:57 <planetmaker> quite 16:25:29 <sbn> How have you been? 16:27:16 *** Rhamphoryncus has quit IRC 16:27:46 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:27:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:28:06 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 16:33:17 <sbn> So planetmaker what is this new opengfx 16:33:34 <planetmaker> what new one? 16:34:18 <sbn> I dunno, can't recall it was here before 16:34:29 <planetmaker> OpenGFX exists since about OpenTTD 0.7 16:34:44 <planetmaker> thus for at least three years. As full graphics base set 16:34:56 <sbn> is it good? 16:35:16 <sbn> does it differ much from the original graphics? 16:35:37 <planetmaker> yes. and yes. And yes, I might be biased. 16:35:51 <sbn> Which one do you prefer 16:36:31 <planetmaker> I play only with OpenGFX. 16:37:11 <sbn> And for what reason? 16:38:43 <planetmaker> it's my baby. thus I might be biased ;-) 16:39:45 <planetmaker> but I prefer it for its nicer landscape, trees, ... 16:40:40 <sbn> ^^ 16:40:53 <sbn> and what about the open music and sounds effects? 16:41:24 <planetmaker> yes, what about them? 16:42:32 <planetmaker> honestly, what does my opinion matter? Go, check out yourself 16:42:47 <planetmaker> if you don't like it, help make it better :-) 16:42:58 <planetmaker> that is the *real* advantage. 16:43:03 <sbn> Why do opinion matter at all? 16:43:17 <sbn> if there was no opinion it wouldn't exist 16:43:26 <planetmaker> yes, there would 16:43:50 <planetmaker> If we want to make a game, we need to make a game which works on its own. And does not require everyone to pay big $$$ to some company 16:44:42 <planetmaker> you can't make a game, say, "here, we have a free game". Oh, you need to pay for the graphics, sound and music. 20$ please 16:45:06 <planetmaker> That''d be bullshitting 16:45:18 <planetmaker> We achieved that goal with OpenTTD 1.0 16:45:34 <planetmaker> to say "we have a completely free and open-source game" 16:46:39 <planetmaker> we thus can offer everyone the option to one-click install and run the game 17:04:03 <sbn> yup 17:04:04 <sbn> it was handy 17:25:24 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has joined #openttdcoop 17:28:35 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has quit IRC 17:28:46 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has joined #openttdcoop 17:33:05 <Mazur> I, for instance, would not be playing OTTD were it not for the free versions, as I have no money for games. 17:33:59 <Mazur> And yes, the free versions are better than the originals, because they keep getting worked on when they are not perfect. 17:34:38 <Mazur> Or when someone with an ounce of talent decides they do not like something. 17:38:01 *** smoovi has joined #openttdcoop 17:43:59 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has quit IRC 17:46:21 <sbn> true Mark 17:46:23 <sbn> Mazur 18:00:47 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 18:22:45 *** sbn has left #openttdcoop 18:42:22 *** valhalla1w has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:15 *** Vinnie_nl has joined #openttdcoop 18:46:19 <Vinnie_nl> !dl osx 18:46:20 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r23974/openttd-trunk-r23974-macosx-universal.zip 18:46:41 <Vinnie_nl> !playercount 18:46:42 <PublicServer> Vinnie_nl: Number of players: 1 (1 spectators) 18:47:23 *** valhalla2w has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:28 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:47:30 *** Firestar has joined #openttdcoop 18:47:31 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 18:48:03 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:48:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 18:48:04 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 18:48:06 <Firestar> !password 18:48:06 <PublicServer> Firestar: ledges 18:48:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello there 18:48:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh hi 18:48:11 <Firestar> hi there 18:48:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> long time 18:48:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 18:48:30 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:48:30 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:48:32 <PublicServer> *** Firestar joined the game 18:48:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> still building nice stuff though 18:48:55 <PublicServer> <Firestar> how are things here? 18:49:23 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:50:33 *** valhalla1w has quit IRC 18:51:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> mind if tweak some stuff? 18:51:49 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 18:51:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> what sort of question is that 18:52:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> !penalty not enough 18:52:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> heh 18:52:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm, sometimes 18:53:39 <PublicServer> <Firestar> lol oil goods monthly over 12k 18:53:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt too surprising .) 18:54:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yeah all the oil from your oil feeders 18:54:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> could easily be much more :< 18:54:45 <PublicServer> <Firestar> sry didnt want to uset you ;) 18:55:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt it isnt my fault :p 18:55:38 <PublicServer> <Firestar> the millions of liters of oil? 18:55:49 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 18:56:31 <PublicServer> <Firestar> k 18:56:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> every watery temperate map will do this 18:56:48 *** mfb- has joined #openttdcoop 18:56:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o mfb- 18:56:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> and it can be a lot worse 18:56:57 <mfb-> hi 18:57:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 18:57:10 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi 18:57:14 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 18:57:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> the solution is to either make map without oil rigs, make plan without oil, OR make plan ready for extreme oil production 18:57:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi mfb :) 18:58:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> nice flow at BBH02 18:59:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes it is much better now :) 18:59:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 3 trains for a 972ton coal mine 19:00:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> but very close to the drop 19:00:34 <PublicServer> <Firestar> lol bribed three times 19:00:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> more trains? 19:00:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> well if you consider that one train has 320t coal ... :) which is a lot 19:00:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure 19:00:51 <PublicServer> <Firestar> 5 2.5 TL trains for a 1,890 tonnes iron ore mine 19:00:56 <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1275 19:02:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> oh, no new tunnels for 5th ;( 19:03:02 <Maraxus> !password 19:03:02 <PublicServer> Maraxus: warren 19:03:03 *** valhalla2w has quit IRC 19:03:07 <PublicServer> <mfb> and someone cleaned up the split of the eastern line at BBH02 19:03:19 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 19:03:23 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 19:03:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. without signals 19:03:28 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 19:03:31 <PublicServer> <Firestar> hi 19:03:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh you mean tunnels at BBH 02 :) 19:03:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> cause BBH04 got expanded inside of it :D no footprint increased 19:03:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> well almost 19:04:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> tunnels at BBH02 19:04:11 <PublicServer> <mfb> eh, 04 19:04:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> what do you mean with almost? 19:04:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> that of course a few tiles were added 19:04:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> but very low amount 19:04:33 <PublicServer> <mfb> tunnels under the 30tile-tunnels would have been funny 19:04:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> hehe wait for those 19:04:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is what I did ;) 19:05:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> 5 stacked tunnels :D 19:05:40 <PublicServer> <Firestar> what about ten stacked tunnels? 19:05:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> if you build it with a good reason... 19:05:55 <PublicServer> <Firestar> or tunnels that CAN have crossings? 19:05:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you can make use of the 100 tile tunnels in the lowest level .. :D 19:06:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> :D 19:06:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> then the hub is really bif 19:06:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> big 19:06:46 <PublicServer> <mfb> V: see !here 19:06:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah 19:06:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> was temp 19:06:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> but ofc some stupid idiot forgot about it 19:07:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> thanks 19:07:21 <PublicServer> <Firestar> well it wasnt me i dont know how to build temps 19:07:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I did of course :p 19:07:34 <PublicServer> <mfb> every tile you build is final? :p 19:07:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> who said that :o 19:07:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> Firestar 19:08:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah like that you mean 19:11:39 <PublicServer> <Firestar> actually since when does steel lookdifferent? i mean it has now more looks 19:12:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> on the wagons? 19:12:15 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yes 19:12:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> DB set always did that 19:12:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> which is pretty awesome if you ask me 19:13:00 <PublicServer> <Firestar> cause sometimes the steel trains look like they just got multiple steel stuff picked up 19:13:30 <PublicServer> <Firestar> like some normal steel, iron bars, steel pipes on one train 19:14:26 <PublicServer> <Firestar> my Wlan got a bad day today 19:15:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> sure, each train has something different to make it look nice 19:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh, some actually have it randomized 19:15:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> I see 19:15:59 <PublicServer> <Firestar> thats what i said 19:16:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wonder how is that coded 19:16:17 <PublicServer> <Firestar> well train 1221 is randomized too for example 19:16:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess first some condition whether it should actually be random within the train and secondly the randomizer 19:17:11 <PublicServer> <Firestar> well if theres too much steel it just picks up random stuff i guess just to get the steel away from the statuion 19:17:18 <PublicServer> <Firestar> staion* 19:17:23 <PublicServer> <Firestar> station* 19:18:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> really? 19:18:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> interesting 19:18:33 <PublicServer> <Firestar> take a look at steel pickup 19:18:55 <PublicServer> <Firestar> or iron ore drop and see how much iron ore comes in 19:19:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 19:19:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought that the wagons are randomized when purchased 19:19:33 *** condac has quit IRC 19:19:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> and then they do always the same 19:19:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> I would expect that too 19:19:52 <PublicServer> <Firestar> no they always change 19:19:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I havent coded that yet so I dont know how that works 19:20:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> could you use time as a randomizer (date) 19:20:28 <PublicServer> <Firestar> i once followed one steel train that had steel pipes 19:20:40 <PublicServer> <Firestar> the second cargo it picked up were iron bars 19:20:52 <PublicServer> <Firestar> or actually electric wires 19:21:38 <PublicServer> <Firestar> lol 94 trains for the 4800 tonnes steel mill 19:22:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> I have named a few trains, 522 782 929 975 and 1120 19:22:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> and 1226 random 19:22:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> factory station is at its capacity limit 19:22:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> but it indeed does seem like it as Firestar said 19:23:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> now there is a lot of steel in teh station and trains take random steel 19:23:05 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yeah should extend a bit 19:23:15 <PublicServer> <mfb> and someone did not count the tiles... 19:24:09 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop 19:24:25 <PublicServer> <mfb> try trees? 19:24:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> time for new trees 19:25:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im off again cya 19:25:04 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 19:25:18 *** Vinnie_nl has quit IRC 19:26:13 <PublicServer> <mfb> done 19:26:24 <PublicServer> <Firestar> lol i bribed like the whole time 19:26:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> and you had a lot of luck 19:26:45 <PublicServer> <Firestar> yeah 19:29:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> those fuckers really loaded something different :) 19:29:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> well the sprites can be based on pretty much anything I guess 19:29:51 <PublicServer> <Firestar> thx for the help 19:32:21 *** lmergen has joined #openttdcoop 19:34:29 *** lmergen has quit IRC 19:36:39 <PublicServer> <Firestar> dog damn you niton junction! 19:36:50 <PublicServer> <mfb> trees help 19:37:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> but not like this 19:37:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> this is better :) 19:38:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> tbe bank wont block that badly :) 19:38:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> if needed 19:38:49 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has joined #openttdcoop 19:40:24 <PublicServer> <Firestar> who helped me? 19:40:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> factory? me 19:40:41 <PublicServer> <Firestar> k 19:40:55 <PublicServer> <Firestar> do banks close down? 19:41:10 <PublicServer> <mfb> if V wants to, they do 19:41:53 <PublicServer> <Firestar> when did Cree die? 19:42:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> you have the same rights as I do mfb ;z 19:42:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially in killing banks :p 19:42:39 <PublicServer> <mfb> :D 19:43:03 <PublicServer> <Firestar> does anyone know when Cree's death came? 19:43:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> when BBH 02 got upgraded I suppose 19:43:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> today, I think 19:43:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe beforehand 19:43:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> why? 19:43:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> my upgrade did not change anything at cree 19:43:33 <PublicServer> <Firestar> theres no date 19:43:35 <PublicServer> <mfb> but the rework later did 19:43:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> so what 19:43:56 <PublicServer> <Firestar> anyway cya gtg 19:43:59 <PublicServer> *** Firestar has left the game (leaving) 19:44:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> cu 19:44:13 *** Firestar has quit IRC 19:49:25 *** Chris_Booth[ph] has quit IRC 19:52:15 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:02:00 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 20:02:40 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 20:02:55 *** theholyduck has joined #openttdcoop 20:04:43 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> any targets for the last 50 trains? 20:06:53 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 20:07:08 <PublicServer> <mfb> new oil system NW? 20:08:46 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> at cardston? 20:09:40 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (general timeout) 20:09:40 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (connection lost) 20:09:52 <mfb-> near the goods drop ML 20:17:05 <mfb-> !password 20:17:05 <PublicServer> mfb-: dreamy 20:17:27 <PublicServer> *** mfb joined the game 20:17:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> any coal at NW wouldnt hurt either 20:17:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> or any banks in that area 20:17:51 *** condac has joined #openttdcoop 20:18:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> coal at NW is easy 20:18:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> but I like the idea of an oil station there 20:18:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes me too 20:18:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> to SLH03? 20:19:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> I guess 20:26:41 *** Progman has quit IRC 20:38:48 *** ODM has quit IRC 20:39:42 *** Firartix has joined #openttdcoop 20:51:50 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 20:52:31 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 20:52:36 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi 20:52:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 20:52:42 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 20:53:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is interesting 20:53:55 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> no it is not 20:54:09 <PublicServer> <mfb> a heliport has a higher capacity if it is on a higher terrain 20:54:49 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> how do you mean? 20:54:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> see the one at BBH02 20:55:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> ground level 15 20:55:12 <PublicServer> <mfb> nearly no starting/landing time 20:55:30 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> oh I see now 20:55:33 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that is cool 20:55:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I thought you where talking about the coverage 20:56:18 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> that makes the heleport usefull 20:56:20 <PublicServer> <mfb> and now warner heliport as comparison 20:56:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> does that work with airports? 20:57:04 <PublicServer> <mfb> round-trip time is different for the two :D 20:57:30 <PublicServer> <mfb> a small airport could fit in this space 20:58:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> or just the mountain near BBHß1 20:58:02 <PublicServer> <mfb> 01 20:58:14 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 7 day compared to 4 days 20:58:18 <PublicServer> <mfb> or medicine hat woods 20:58:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> thats almost 50% more efficent 20:58:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> a part of this time is the "distance" they travel 20:59:10 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the Takeoff / Landind 20:59:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is the other part 21:00:42 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> would that mean with the more hieght levels patch you could not use heleports on top of hills? 21:00:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> now we have two " " airports 21:01:06 <PublicServer> <mfb> or it is even worse for heliports on lower levels 21:01:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> or you get some strange features like a helicopter rising to land 21:02:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> is it the same for all helicopters? 21:02:49 <PublicServer> <mfb> I think so, but did not test it 21:03:47 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> yes 21:05:27 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the Eurocopter Orque 4 could be good as a metro idea then 21:05:34 <Tray> !password 21:05:35 <PublicServer> Tray: portal 21:05:45 <PublicServer> <mfb> lol 21:05:56 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 21:06:25 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> the only issue is landing them all at the main station 21:06:47 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm 21:06:54 <PublicServer> <mfb> make rows 21:07:00 <PublicServer> <mfb> and collect via trains 21:07:38 <PublicServer> <mfb> distribute the drop a bit with conditional orders 21:07:52 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 21:08:48 <PublicServer> <mfb> 3x3 grid with a heliport in the center? :D 21:11:19 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> stupid Starland 21:11:55 *** Firartix has quit IRC 21:12:05 <PublicServer> <mfb> we have a town "Standard"? really? :D 21:12:16 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> Starland 21:12:24 <PublicServer> <mfb> see town directory 21:12:54 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> lol 21:13:02 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> well as towns go that is standard 21:13:12 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> 1 road, few houses and a staduim 21:13:22 <PublicServer> <mfb> :p 21:15:56 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> stupid train limit 21:16:28 <Mark> !password 21:16:29 <PublicServer> Mark: ruffle 21:16:44 <PublicServer> <mfb> do we have any jams? 21:16:49 <PublicServer> *** Mark joined the game 21:16:50 <PublicServer> <Mark> hello 21:16:52 <PublicServer> <mfb> hi 21:17:02 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 21:17:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> ellow 21:17:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> trains++ 21:17:39 <mfb-> !rcon set max_trains 1350 21:17:45 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> ooh 21:18:23 <PublicServer> <mfb> steel might need a 4th line soon 21:18:27 <PublicServer> <mfb> and goods drop, too 21:19:17 <PublicServer> *** Mark has left the game (leaving) 21:20:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> what is that near cardston? 21:20:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> bank connection? 21:20:35 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> yes 21:20:57 <PublicServer> <mfb> now the town loves us 21:21:01 <PublicServer> <mfb> and that is TL4 21:21:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:23:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> like that? 21:23:45 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> yes 21:25:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is just dumb that the goods wagons have 80t capacity .. if you look at the traffic at goods pickup at refinery 21:25:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats just ridiculous 21:25:20 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> use smaller wagons 21:25:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah 21:25:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> bad argument :p 21:25:34 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> then dont moan 21:25:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> I can moan, nuts has it differently 21:26:15 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> w/e :P 21:27:26 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> NUTS better rock my socks off, Rock my Robbin, and be on it like my car bonnet1 21:27:56 <PublicServer> <mfb> any ideas for a new drop layout at goods drop? 21:28:14 <PublicServer> <mfb> different from the other 3, and not 6 tiles wide? 21:28:21 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> I can bring back the iklucas idea of the circular drop :P 21:28:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> that is wider than 6 tiles :p 21:29:09 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> double terminus? 21:29:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 21:29:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm... some system with tunnels 21:30:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> nay hows its past my bed time, and yes I am 22 but I still need to get up for work :P 21:30:19 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 21:30:58 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:31:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you need 6 tiles mfb 21:31:26 <PublicServer> <mfb> ? 21:31:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> why should it be smaller than 6 21:32:03 <PublicServer> <mfb> I want to keep the style of the current lines 21:35:59 *** perk11 has quit IRC 21:36:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm I dont think nuts will rock any socks at least in the alpha version but lets see :) perhaps I am too pesimistic 21:42:29 <PublicServer> <mfb> V: your plan collides with SLH03 21:43:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> how is that a problem just kill it 21:43:36 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 21:45:27 *** Tray has quit IRC 21:50:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 01 21:50:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> factory has enough 21:50:55 <PublicServer> <mfb> where do all these trains come from 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> steel mostly 21:51:41 <PublicServer> <mfb> hmm.. 3rd? 21:52:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> no other way I guess 21:53:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am tired however, should go sleep 21:53:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> so .. gnight :) 21:53:31 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 21:53:37 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 21:53:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you perpare 4th up to BBH 04, I will upgrade 04 in the morning 21:53:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> if needed 21:54:17 <PublicServer> <mfb> ok 21:54:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> anyway, cya 21:54:38 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:54:40 <PublicServer> <mfb> good night 21:54:46 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 21:55:22 *** theholyduck has quit IRC 22:05:52 <PublicServer> *** mfb has left the game (leaving) 22:05:52 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 22:05:58 <mfb-> good night 22:06:42 *** mfb- has quit IRC 22:07:39 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 22:07:54 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 22:18:18 *** smoovi has quit IRC 22:18:25 *** TWerkhoven[l] has quit IRC 22:41:26 *** Zuu has quit IRC 23:05:35 *** pugi has quit IRC 23:05:47 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 23:07:06 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:07:07 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 23:28:39 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 23:28:45 *** Hazzard has quit IRC