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00:00:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> was about time though 00:00:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> not it was years after time :D 00:00:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true 00:01:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so whats the purpose of these tunnels? 00:01:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> presignals ofc 00:01:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh, gettin clearer now 00:01:52 <V453000> @ABR12 00:01:53 <Webster> Advanced Building Revue 12: Overflows III at #openttdcoop - http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2012/06/28/advanced-building-revue-12-overflows-iii/ 00:02:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> figure H 00:02:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, just gettin a beer, then i'll read it :) 00:02:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> reading the whole is good, but for now I was just pointing at that example :p 00:02:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically the same as what is done here 00:02:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> second screen ftw :) 00:03:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah I intend to get one too 00:03:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> need some loud boombox first though 00:04:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cold staropramen... nothing better 00:04:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> you are German right? 00:05:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep 00:05:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and you are czech from what i remember 00:05:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes, just like staropramen 00:05:41 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hehe 00:05:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> it means "old water source" or something like that 00:05:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> pramen is the place where the tiny river starts 00:06:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good to know :) 00:08:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> F#!$! 00:08:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> rage nuke :P 00:08:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> worst thing is im not even drunk 00:09:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol 00:09:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> k this works 00:11:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> jesus christ 1:11 again 00:11:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> x_X 00:11:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> fucking time 00:11:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> who invented that thing 00:12:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> ayy 00:14:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> im afraid a lot of MSH 02 will go as well 00:15:12 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 00:16:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh god fucking damn it this isnt happening 00:16:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> this cant be happening 00:16:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> im so dumb 00:21:51 *** BenJTotterdell has joined #openttdcoop 00:22:08 <BenJTotterdell> !password 00:22:08 <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: shaves 00:22:18 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell joined the game 00:22:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> ohai 00:22:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey ben 00:22:27 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hi 00:22:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> wanted to kill you for making a fullspeed track switcher, but I calmed down unfortunately ;) 00:22:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :D 00:22:58 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined spectators 00:23:02 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> eh wut? 00:23:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> you didnt use waiting bays and made a shifter instead 00:23:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> at grain exit 00:23:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> (punishable by death 00:24:18 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hmm, I don't really remember, but proberly. sounds like the kinda thing I would do. 00:24:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 00:24:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine but please do not use it 00:24:41 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> in my defence, I left a little bit of the original exit as I was lazy 00:24:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> waiting bays \o/ :) 00:24:58 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats more than likely what you are refering too 00:25:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah there was this 00:25:34 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> after the tunnels 00:25:36 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> ah ok I see 00:25:47 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> next time 00:25:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> :P 00:25:59 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 00:26:15 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> that better? 00:26:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is a very special case 00:26:59 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg216shiftmerger.png 00:27:01 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> someone should move BBH05 out of V's range :D 00:27:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 00:31:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> screw you trains 00:31:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> haha 00:31:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> imagine being a train driver approaching this station 00:31:03 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> would have no fucking idea 00:31:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think all of our train drivers currently quit their jobs and ran into the fields, so ... 00:31:29 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well you would need a pee after a certain number of years 00:31:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> given that they are standing this way for at least an hour ... :p 00:31:46 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> is there owt else I can do whilst all is quite on the train front 00:31:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> about 5 yeras 00:32:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its five years since the profit graph hit the ground 00:33:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> there we go 00:33:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> >:] 00:33:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with 90deg turns :o 00:33:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> which ones 00:33:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats not travellable 00:33:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ah oke 00:34:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh and please never candy my stations :p 00:34:17 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I was bored 00:34:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> esp not repetitively 00:34:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I abtolutely hate repetitive eyecandy with passion 00:34:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry :p 00:35:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> also please never justify anything with an argument I was bored :P go do something more productive instead of playing a game, games arent meant to be boring :P 00:35:51 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yes boss 00:36:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> and I might want to stop talking shit 00:36:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> :p 00:38:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats the best I can come up with. I was never very creative 00:38:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> better already :p 00:38:43 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I suppose you'd like to do the exit? 00:38:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> but some pieces of ISR fit particularly nice together ... doesnt hurt ot use some combinations :P 00:38:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> with TL3 it is a bit limited though 00:39:06 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> true 00:39:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will probably rebuild the MSH merger as well when doing the exit 00:39:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I guess I do 00:40:37 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (general timeout) 00:40:37 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (connection lost) 00:41:19 <BenJTotterdell> !password 00:41:19 <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: proses 00:41:28 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell joined the game 00:42:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you find a missing line or forgotten connection, bury it under signs, make bridges over it or just hide it but do not tell me :D 00:46:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> dat aint beer that is oil :P 00:46:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I use this one for beer 00:46:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just filled an oil tank with beer :D 00:46:59 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> can I do the split? or do u wanna do that last? 00:47:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 00:47:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm 00:47:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> im not exactly sure 00:47:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I am going to mess with the MSH 00:47:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> so probably yeah 00:47:47 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> you can always remove it later 00:47:57 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i need practice anyways 00:48:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I would hate to remove stuff that you just built :P lets seek something else 00:48:13 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hm ok 00:48:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> kinda hard to tell when the network is stopped :D 00:48:39 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i know 00:53:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> ohx 00:57:19 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yep officially out of ideas :P 00:57:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> wa? 00:57:40 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 00:57:48 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I am 00:59:04 <Dom_> !password 00:59:04 <PublicServer> Dom_: locust 00:59:15 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 00:59:18 <PublicServer> <Dom> hello 00:59:25 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hi 00:59:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 00:59:37 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> k that is the first stage of the exit for onw 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> for now 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> first stage? 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> the second will be in the MSH 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> insanity :D 01:05:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> no its all logical! 01:05:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i see a place in the near future... flooded with openttd logic :D 01:05:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> what place 01:09:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> some would describe as excessive :P 01:09:34 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> why is there so much more grain than livestock... hmm 01:09:44 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> one of lifes many questions 01:09:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> just because people added grain 01:09:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> iz all 01:10:03 <PublicServer> <Sylf> because we luv beer 01:10:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt find any deeped logic behind that 01:10:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> especially as livestock has smaller wagons 01:10:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> so you would expect it vice versa in fact 01:10:23 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thats what I was thinking 01:10:43 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> unless the livestock station was constructed far better initially.. :P 01:11:09 <PublicServer> <Sylf> unpossible :P 01:11:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> possible :) 01:13:01 *** Jake has quit IRC 01:13:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi BBH 05 01:13:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> got dynamite? 01:13:33 <PublicServer> <Sylf> :D 01:18:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> RUN 01:18:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> BOOM :D 01:19:02 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> JAM! 01:19:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what about a factory? 01:19:07 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1 01:19:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> good point 01:19:22 <PublicServer> <Sylf> lol 01:20:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg i forgot electric rails 01:20:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> now lets see the station fail and I can go take revenge on lesser creatures 01:22:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> its okay just about a million trains going to turn in one SLH 01:22:51 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> indeed 01:23:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea slh 02 is slightly fucked 01:23:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it'll work out 01:24:02 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> over time 01:24:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is why building terminus stations at SLs and ro-ro at main stations is a good idea 01:24:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> one of the reasons anyway 01:25:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh amazing 01:25:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> trains getting caught in SL overflow 01:25:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> havent seen that happen yet :D 01:25:34 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> mr reverser, was a little too late :( 01:25:38 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> my 01:25:52 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it was yours? 01:26:10 <PublicServer> <Sylf> it wasn't gonna work anyway 01:26:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where? 01:26:20 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> whY? 01:26:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> no pf 01:26:46 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> stupif pft 01:27:10 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> not needed 01:27:21 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> all the trains below this point aren't heading this way 01:27:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> can do it that way :p 01:27:42 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yeah 01:28:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> btw we are probably going to have a party in the next few days 01:28:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> try to discover why 01:28:56 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you win the election for US President? 01:29:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 01:29:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> no 01:30:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> about overflows... shouldn'T the depots be invisible for the pathfinder? 01:30:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh ass 01:30:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> they are 01:30:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> and yes should be 01:30:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> one isnt 01:30:40 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i'll fix it 01:30:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> where 01:31:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nvm, somebody already did 01:32:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so whats the party about? 01:33:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> do you know which services Webster provides? 01:34:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no 01:35:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> ask Sylf :) 01:35:19 <PublicServer> <Sylf> erm? 01:35:45 <PublicServer> <Sylf> webster is just a web monstah :) 01:36:06 <V453000> know about 01:36:07 <V453000> @logs 01:36:08 <V453000> ? 01:36:08 <Webster> #openttdcoop IRC webstuff - IRC Log Viewer - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/ 01:36:19 <PublicServer> <Sylf> yup. 01:37:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> then that is close to what my guessed party is about 01:37:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh, big brother is watching us :p 01:37:21 <PublicServer> <Sylf> always! 01:40:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> you guys are bad guessers :P 01:40:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> (or you just dont give a shit which would be very surprising at very 2:40 am indeed. 01:41:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> my brain is deep asleep so dont expect a good guess from me 01:41:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> right I will spoil it 01:41:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> @@coopstats 01:41:54 <Webster> #openttdcoop @ OFTC stats by Webster - http://webster.openttdcoop.org/stats.html 01:43:41 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (leaving) 01:43:45 <BenJTotterdell> night night 01:43:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the random quotes are fun 01:43:49 *** BenJTotterdell has quit IRC 01:43:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 01:43:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu 01:44:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> yay I managed to fix my station 01:47:43 <PublicServer> <Dom> bbh 08 will need a third 01:47:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> he 01:49:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think my constructing actions are depleted for tonight 01:49:35 <PublicServer> <Dom> mine to 02:01:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> 3 o clock in the morning 02:01:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> wunderbar 02:02:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> wanted to be productive today ^^ 02:02:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> gnight 02:02:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 02:02:11 <PublicServer> <Sylf> gn :) 02:05:48 *** cyph3r has quit IRC 02:16:59 *** pugi has quit IRC 02:18:46 *** TNepr has joined #openttdcoop 02:21:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> another issue fixed... 02:22:00 *** dada__ has quit IRC 02:37:55 <PublicServer> <Sylf> gn 02:37:57 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (leaving) 02:38:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu 02:38:14 <PublicServer> <Dom> gn8 02:38:24 <PublicServer> <Dom> are you building anything? 02:39:18 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 02:39:18 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 02:43:03 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 03:26:50 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi has left the game (leaving) 03:27:14 *** sturmi has quit IRC 03:31:13 *** dr-dinosaur has joined #openttdcoop 06:14:39 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 06:37:05 *** TNepr has quit IRC 06:50:34 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 07:47:41 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 07:49:55 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 08:19:07 *** FluR0 has joined #openttdcoop 08:19:16 <FluR0> Hey 08:41:01 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 08:42:26 *** FluR0 has quit IRC 08:43:36 *** andbo has joined #openttdcoop 08:51:14 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 09:25:57 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 09:30:52 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 09:52:26 *** pugi has joined #openttdcoop 10:58:28 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 11:06:17 *** sturmi has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:48 *** quazimodo has joined #openttdcoop 11:46:50 <quazimodo> hi guys XD 11:48:53 <V453000> hello 11:50:49 <quazimodo> im surprised there are so many people here 11:51:50 <V453000> well most are probably inactive at this part of the day :) welcome 11:57:25 <quazimodo> hehe 11:57:37 <quazimodo> im trying to figure out how people can build these elaborate stations 11:57:47 <quazimodo> they take up so much space, how do you get goods to them! 11:58:22 <V453000> what do you mean? 11:58:33 <V453000> !password 11:58:33 <PublicServer> V453000: bootee 11:58:46 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 11:58:49 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 12:01:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> join the server if you want to show me some examples :> 12:10:01 *** Dom_ has joined #openttdcoop 12:13:36 <quazimodo> @quickstart 12:13:37 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 12:14:56 <quazimodo> oh i have to get the right build? 12:16:35 <quazimodo> !dl lin 12:16:35 <PublicServer> quazimodo: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24636/openttd-trunk-r24636-linux-generic-i686.tar.xz 12:17:13 *** perk11 has joined #openttdcoop 12:17:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much :) 12:18:28 <quazimodo> bleh, wish there was a nice auto downloader 12:18:31 <quazimodo> like a ruby gem 12:19:01 <V453000> there is some autostart but idk how that works 12:19:17 <sturmi> and i wish i had infinite beer and money :p 12:19:23 <sturmi> hey guys 12:19:30 *** Vinnie has joined #openttdcoop 12:19:32 <Vinnie> !playercount 12:19:32 <PublicServer> Vinnie: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators) 12:19:44 <sturmi> !password 12:19:44 <PublicServer> sturmi: ricing 12:19:53 <Vinnie> !dl win64 12:19:53 <PublicServer> Vinnie: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24636/openttd-trunk-r24636-windows-win64.zip 12:20:13 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 12:20:13 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 12:20:13 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi joined the game 12:20:57 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 12:20:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi all 12:21:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:21:22 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi 12:22:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nice comment on bigger 12:22:06 *** GLAD0S has joined #openttdcoop 12:22:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm :) 12:22:12 <GLAD0S> hi 12:22:18 <V453000> hello 12:22:20 <V453000> @quickstart 12:22:21 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 12:22:22 <V453000> read that first 12:22:29 <GLAD0S> anyone know the password for the public server? 12:22:36 <Vinnie> its on that page 12:22:39 <Vinnie> and hello 12:22:39 <sturmi> type !password 12:23:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> @kick sturmi :) 12:23:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :( 12:23:47 <GLAD0S> !password 12:23:47 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: ricing 12:23:53 <GLAD0S> YAY! 12:23:56 <GLAD0S> cheers guys! 12:24:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think your new merger will not stay flor long Vinnie 12:25:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no problem 12:25:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> its built okay but doesnt fit the situation 12:25:23 *** GLAD0S has quit IRC 12:25:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can see that 12:25:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can work on Marks BBH now 12:25:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah that will probably need doing 12:26:02 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 12:26:08 *** GLAD0S has joined #openttdcoop 12:26:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> also, the overkill @grain is your fault because you said we expand. 12:26:12 <GLAD0S> !Password 12:26:24 <GLAD0S> !password 12:26:24 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: awning 12:26:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> why do you even bother reporting that :D 12:26:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> because i need to make all settings right no this pc 12:26:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> placing sign, writing it into chat, instead S and click :D 12:26:59 <quazimodo> woot 12:27:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sign distance 4 12:27:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> default :( 12:27:10 <quazimodo> ok how do i join 12:27:16 <V453000> @quickstart 12:27:17 *** GLAD0S has quit IRC 12:27:17 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 12:27:23 <quazimodo> V453000: yeah i havethe new build 12:27:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> signal distance 4 is default? 12:27:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 12:27:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> didnt know the default is that retarded 12:28:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> but well what would you expect 12:29:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and why do i get the blame for the massive queue at beer 12:29:50 <quazimodo> how do i install thse grf's 12:29:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i just build a ton of trains for stations with more than 1k waiting 12:29:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wasnt talking about any queue :) 12:30:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> quazimodo: documents/data 12:30:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> documents/openttd/data that is 12:30:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk how it is for linux, see openttd readme eventually 12:30:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wiki has that answer 12:30:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> google has link to wiki 12:30:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm k 12:31:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> k I will sort MSH 02 out 12:32:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> sorry Vinnie :) 12:32:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> blow it up 12:33:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> jams solved 12:33:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> just with a tiny side effect 12:33:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> should have finished this map yesterday :P 12:36:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> fuck you Flutown 12:36:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> haha 12:40:54 <Dom_> !password 12:40:54 <PublicServer> Dom_: fliest 12:41:03 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 12:41:06 <PublicServer> <Dom> hello 12:41:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 12:41:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi 12:41:15 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi 12:42:06 <Tray> !password 12:42:06 <PublicServer> Tray: fliest 12:42:23 <Tray> !dl win32 12:42:23 <PublicServer> Tray: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24636/openttd-trunk-r24636-windows-win32.zip 12:43:30 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 12:43:35 <PublicServer> <Tray> hi 12:43:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 12:43:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey 12:43:46 <PublicServer> <Dom> hi 12:43:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello 12:44:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> what 12:44:43 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not me 12:44:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> though i did see it happen 12:45:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is theoretically possible that this happen automatically I think 12:45:18 <quazimodo> ok so 12:45:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> hm yeah 12:45:27 <quazimodo> ive got planes at 3 cities to make money 12:45:29 <quazimodo> its ~ 12:45:33 <quazimodo> coal makes so much more money? 12:45:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> nobody here cares about money 12:45:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> point 1 12:47:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> how long did grain factory rebuild take? 12:47:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk really 12:47:30 <quazimodo> yeah but i need money to make stuff 12:47:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> cheat them or just make aircraft, that is irrelevant 12:47:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> cheat a little for money at start 12:47:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> about ten years ingame 12:48:02 <Tray> strg + alt +c and three clicks solve all money problems 12:48:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> k that is about 2.5 hours 12:49:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> double use of lines, looks so good 12:49:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 12:49:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> useing a line for a priority and also to put trains into overflow 12:50:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> +- 12:50:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt work too well though 12:50:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> fails quite often 12:50:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> the triple platforms are fine 12:50:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> the bidirectional will need some more thought 12:51:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> bidirectional is more epic 12:52:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> this might help 12:53:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> k nvm 12:53:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> how the hell 12:53:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh right 12:53:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh fucking right 12:53:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> got it 12:54:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> just dumb TL gap in the prioritizing 12:54:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> also the MSH 02 is terrible atm 12:55:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> isnt it about the backlog? 12:55:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> traffic that just needs to clear first 12:55:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think the 3 lines are just a bottleneck atm 12:55:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah lets see later 12:56:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> but I think we will need to redo the whole area 12:56:59 *** BenJTotterdell has joined #openttdcoop 12:57:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> this probably isnt going to clear 12:57:20 <BenJTotterdell> !password 12:57:20 <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: raring 12:57:29 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell joined the game 12:57:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 4 exit lines? 12:57:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think 4 is smart 12:57:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I would do 5 already 12:58:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 will be enough now 12:58:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> 5 will last a bit 12:58:16 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> still on MSH 02? :P 12:58:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 5 seems fun 12:58:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> compress 5 a little to create space 12:58:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> I am supposed to be doing something for work before I go soak my brain with beer 12:59:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> so feel free to do it :) 12:59:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ty 12:59:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> I dont think there is any way BBH 05 is going to survive 12:59:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me neither 12:59:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> I wouldnt even be against integrating the two hubs 12:59:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> :'( 12:59:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you are going to do 5, the current total between hubs will be 6 12:59:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> so I guess just make 3+3 -> choices -> 6->3 13:00:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I mean? 13:00:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 13:00:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> im gonna need beer to picture the 6 > 3 though 13:00:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> to battle minions! 13:00:53 *** Mark has quit IRC 13:01:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> will you bring beer for battle? 13:01:14 <PublicServer> <Dom> no beer no battle 13:01:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> my evening battle is going to consist of mainly beer 13:01:24 <PublicServer> <Dom> :D 13:01:30 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you sound like a king 13:01:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> only thinking about your own beer 13:01:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> well I didnt expect you to come here to have a beer with me :P 13:02:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> from NL do you live before or after Prague 13:02:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> depends where do you go, if from north then before 13:02:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> if from west then after 13:02:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> im just on the northern border 13:02:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im on my way 13:02:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> with germany 13:02:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> poland is very close too 13:03:16 <sturmi> so we are almost neighbors 13:03:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> everybody is almost neighbors on the internet :P where do you live? 13:04:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> Sheffield, Northern England 13:04:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> right now ia am in Dresden, my "old" home 13:04:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> right :) 13:04:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke im gonna cheat 13:05:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> uh? 13:05:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> cheat == press D and drag all of the map? 13:05:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no that crashes my pc 13:05:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and or server 13:05:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 13:05:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and i already have done that 4 or 5 times 13:05:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think server is strong enough for that 13:07:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> feel free to nuke the place 13:07:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i build slow 13:08:06 <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the line to MSH 07 could need some work on the balancing 13:08:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt matter 13:08:16 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> stop all trainese? 13:08:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think oil just needs 3rd 13:08:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its the Station entry 13:08:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> at least for that one bit 13:09:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you look at grain, trains first choose and then merge into 2+3 13:09:40 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea, i already thought about a redesign... 13:09:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think making a 3rd at that small spot is a better option 13:10:02 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but feel free to do it, as i gotta leave in a minute 13:10:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont have too much space 13:10:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> I was supposed to be gone already :P 13:10:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D 13:11:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> I could also say fuck it and do it tomorrow 13:11:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hmm 13:11:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am afraid that the station will collapse, when the Entry is sorted out 13:11:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah it wont 13:11:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> and if it will then we expand it 13:11:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sure that 13:12:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> if the pickup gets adjusted we have a ton of space there 13:12:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm, did wrunton Woods just die after being connected? 13:12:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> hang on 13:12:25 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 13:12:29 <PublicServer> <Tray> yes 13:12:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> RISE 13:12:36 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 2 13:12:38 <PublicServer> <Tray> of thank you 13:12:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> mighty God :D 13:13:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu later guys 13:13:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> see you 13:13:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Cya 13:13:51 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi has left the game (leaving) 13:14:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> Tray: look at the SLH :) 13:14:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> see what I mean? 13:14:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> just makingi t smaller :) that end looks a bit off 13:15:02 <sturmi> !password 13:15:02 <PublicServer> sturmi: humbug 13:15:15 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi joined the game 13:15:27 <PublicServer> <Tray> Hrm. Thank you. 13:15:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes i hate the phone... 13:15:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw 13:15:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> gentlemen, I hereby declare the day of procrastination and openttd; and I shall start the ceremony by opening a beer 13:16:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Cheers 13:16:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> cheers 13:16:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> may we drink beer till eternity 13:16:41 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cheers 13:16:59 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> Cheers!! 13:17:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> just dont let me disturb you Vinnie I will just place some hint signs 13:19:16 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> is this gonna be the new BBH 05? 13:19:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh bythe way 13:19:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> that emrger is 8->3 not 6->3 as I said 13:19:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah pretty much Sturmi 13:20:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is gonna be a 7 > 5 13:20:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hmm 13:20:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 -> 3 13:20:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 6 > 3 is hard 13:20:41 *** dada_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:20:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no 6->3 :D 13:20:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> I know 13:20:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i fucked up 13:21:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> well 8 -> 3 isnt much better :p 13:21:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> anything with more than 2 diffence is fucked up 13:21:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk, if you want just make some huge ass repetitive merger 13:21:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that doesnt bring bck my skills 13:21:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> you know the PBS->2way technique yet? 13:21:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nope 13:21:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not in a merger 13:22:18 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh i seen those 13:22:24 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> in PZ 13:22:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> likely 13:22:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> boom 13:22:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> the idea is that the PBS already knows which line is full when choosing 13:22:37 <PublicServer> <Tray> Where are you working, I would like to see them too (: 13:22:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> instead of choosing based on which waiting bay is free (which is what presignals do) 13:22:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> South BBH 05 13:22:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 05 Tray 13:23:08 *** GLAD0S has joined #openttdcoop 13:23:10 <GLAD0S> hi guys 13:23:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> But the prio in this one is either to long or to short 13:23:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> also, if you are doing ->3, we can just use the "V453000 merger" as I usually sign it 13:23:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> you dont really give a shit about the prio length it is just about train detection 13:23:38 <GLAD0S> where do you find the newgrfs for the public server 13:23:39 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 13:23:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 8 > 4 seems doable 13:23:50 <GLAD0S> !grf 13:23:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and then a 4 > 3 to fix it 13:24:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> it not in junctionary :d 13:24:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> Glados just read the quickstart please 13:24:19 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so i make an 8 > 4 here and put it in junctonary 13:24:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> :P 13:24:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> 4 is an option too 13:24:45 <GLAD0S> cheers 13:25:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> so, we need someone to make BBH 08 accept 4 lines :P 13:25:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> what I meant by the ->3 merger was this 13:25:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> etc 13:26:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah seems to easy 13:26:06 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fuck ocams razor 13:26:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> +- :) 13:29:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> who's building at Oil drop? 13:29:38 <PublicServer> <V453000> you were I thought :D 13:29:41 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i am at cow drop 13:29:58 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop 13:29:59 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i was about to start :D 13:30:05 <PublicServer> <Tray> I do 13:30:09 <PublicServer> <Dom> hm oil drop? 13:30:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> if you want to rebuild the area of oil just do it 13:30:47 <PublicServer> <Dom> who wants to just go ahead or i'll do it in 20 mins 13:30:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what I meant too :) 13:31:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> arse 13:31:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> arse ars 13:31:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok i give you green light 13:32:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> thinking 13:33:51 <quazimodo> @quickstart 13:33:52 <Webster> Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart 13:36:36 <quazimodo> !password 13:36:36 <PublicServer> quazimodo: safari 13:38:23 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout) 13:38:23 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 13:40:34 <quazimodo> hrm 13:40:37 <quazimodo> nh foundations eh 13:41:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> its in the pack 13:42:47 <quazimodo> !password 13:42:48 <PublicServer> quazimodo: encore 13:43:15 <quazimodo> which nerd wrote the bot hat sets up tho password 13:43:16 <PublicServer> *** quazbutt joined the game 13:43:17 <quazimodo> XD 13:43:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> would probably not be a terrible idea to move BBH 05 to Saningstone entirely 13:43:30 *** Vinnie_ has joined #openttdcoop 13:43:32 <Vinnie_> !password 13:43:32 <PublicServer> Vinnie_: encore 13:43:37 <V453000> KenjiE20: you have some feedback there ^ 13:43:40 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 13:43:43 <V453000> oh wait that isnt webster 13:43:49 <V453000> shut up webster 13:43:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi all 13:43:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 13:44:03 <KenjiE20> I do actually though 13:44:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> webster mad? 13:44:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> how about we make a new BBH 05 at Saning stone 13:44:11 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 13:44:21 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 13:44:23 <KenjiE20> iirc it's just a massive grep for 6 letter words on a aspell dic 13:44:41 <V453000> y 13:46:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> & > 4? 13:46:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 7>4 13:46:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> 8 13:46:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> should I mearge to 4 > 3 then 3>4 ! here? 13:46:11 <PublicServer> <Dom> -.- 13:46:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6+2 13:46:17 <PublicServer> <Dom> planinghead farm 13:46:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> 3from station + 3 from ML before MSH 02 + 2 from bottom 13:46:34 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> or should i just straight split from the MSH which is easier 13:46:41 <quazimodo> so 13:46:46 <quazimodo> how do we chat in game? 13:46:54 <quazimodo> and can someone explain something to me? 13:46:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> try enter 13:46:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> come in game and press enter 13:46:56 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> enter 13:47:02 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh here we go 13:47:02 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah 13:47:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, oil Entry done 13:47:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> good enough for now Sturmi :) 13:47:28 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> on the top left edge we have the LUMBERPICKUP station 13:47:34 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and the wood drop 13:47:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:47:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just separated the Goods trains before the merger 13:47:42 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> where are the industries for these two? 13:47:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> built by some idiot, what is with it 13:47:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> just like 20 tiles above it 13:48:21 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ah yes, so how does this sawmill actually receive goods? 13:48:27 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> the station looks so far away 13:48:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> by the small station pieces which are a part ofthe station 13:48:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 13:48:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 05 13:49:01 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i cant see em :( 13:49:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ? 13:49:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> there was wtf writen in the grass 13:49:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i know 13:49:18 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> some 1 come ! here I need advice 13:49:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> that really depends on what you want to do Ben 13:49:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can first split the drop and pickup 13:49:52 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well effectively add a third line 13:49:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> and then make 4->2 x2 13:49:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for great meatballs, use ketjab 13:50:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> two 4->2 should be good 13:50:22 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> hmm ok 13:51:08 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh i see 13:51:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yay 13:51:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie: I suggest making that direction one of those which choose 13:51:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> not are given prio to 13:51:50 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> did you guys make a station that was very long, extend it out, and then delete bits of old station? 13:51:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt matter too much but there is barely any traffic 13:51:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> your all over the map 13:52:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> quazbutt: ctrl click when building a station 13:52:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ofc I am :) 13:52:35 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats what I am here for after all 13:52:37 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh hold on i see, the GRF pack changed things 13:52:47 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i didnt have all these station choices inthe solo 13:52:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah, newGRFs 13:53:12 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> can this sorta thing be done with a clean version of the game? 13:53:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 13:53:48 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i see! 13:54:00 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so, how far away can this be?! 13:54:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> as much as station spread allows 13:54:09 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what stops me putting these on the other side of the ma 13:54:15 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm bbh05 moving further south again? 13:54:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> Sturmi: pretty much 13:54:42 <PublicServer> <Tray> quazbutt, there's an option about the maximum station spread 13:54:44 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice you guys dont have any road stuff really 13:54:54 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it'l end up near Oil Drop before its done :DD 13:55:13 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> here is our ! road stuff 13:55:23 <PublicServer> <Tray> and this game is about building one huge network, there've been roadnetworks as well, but thex don't give much of a challenge 13:56:22 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> there is some weirdness 13:56:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> NO. 13:56:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Mission complete 13:56:31 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> some of these lines just 'end' heh 13:56:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you reached level 2 13:56:35 <PublicServer> <Tray> We hope so. ): 13:56:49 <PublicServer> <Tray> What do you mean? Maybe we can explain things. 13:57:20 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> look at prios in junctionary? 13:57:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> might be a reverser too 13:57:40 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh the inclines dont seem to hurt the game too much 13:57:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> either way make sure you know @@prio 13:57:46 <Webster> prio: Priority, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Priorities 13:58:31 *** perk11 has quit IRC 13:58:46 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> you guys have 141 year old trains :/ 13:58:54 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> did you turn off breakdowns etc? 13:58:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol disastrous 13:58:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> no? 13:59:09 <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 13:59:10 <PublicServer> V453000: Current value for 'vehicle_breakdowns' is: '0' (min: 0, max: 2) 13:59:13 <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 2 13:59:22 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> well this 1 train had 0 reliability, but i didnt see it breakdown heaps 13:59:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> snafu 13:59:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 13:59:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg 13:59:39 <V453000> !rcon set vehicle_breakdowns 0 13:59:46 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> lmao 14:00:04 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> now where's that refit centre..... 14:00:07 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> which part of the map are you guys on and playing with? 14:00:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> when we need 1 14:00:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i've never seen a coop game with breakdowns 14:00:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> game with breakdowns is downed and not compatible with brain usage Sturmi 14:00:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well said 14:00:41 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> im gonna assume breakdowns dont happen here 14:00:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> they just did, they wont happen again 14:00:54 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how does the game set its path finding up, is it a good ai? 14:01:08 <PublicServer> <Tray> DONT GET US STARTED! (: 14:01:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> each piece of track has some penalty v alue 14:01:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> lowest penalty value wins 14:01:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> +- that way 14:01:30 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> hows the penalty value calculated 14:01:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> sum of the pieces? 14:01:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its added up along the possible routes 14:01:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> 1 track = 100 14:01:48 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> these trains handle up/downhill nicely 14:02:06 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> new inertia engine? 14:02:28 <PublicServer> <Tray> realistic acceleration model option 14:02:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nah, just power and low setting for weight multiplier 14:02:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> lets not talk about weight multipliers :P 14:02:52 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> roro's are cool 14:03:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> massive roros are cooler :p 14:03:29 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what are these floating beer kegs? 14:03:36 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> near oi 14:03:38 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oil 14:03:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we use them to connect the oil platforms to a station 14:04:04 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah but what are they 14:04:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> .. 14:04:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just fancy station tiles 14:04:20 <PublicServer> <Tray> please put a sign a sign next to it, that way it's much easier to find the stuff you're talking about 14:04:30 <PublicServer> <Tray> something like !123 14:04:32 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh 14:04:42 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> who made the crain near brunwell XD 14:04:44 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i did 14:04:54 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> go into water ways 14:04:56 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what for 14:05:14 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the canal tool 14:05:48 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> then make a canal around the water u have just blown up 14:06:22 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ah you have to be fast eh 14:06:30 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> indeed 14:06:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> either additional pylons or moar APM 14:07:05 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> note: irl blowing up water does not make land 14:07:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt? :( 14:07:21 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> nah 14:07:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> childhood myths spoilt 14:07:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> THANKS 14:07:32 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what happens if someone gets mischievious and decides to blow up parts of tracks etc 14:07:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> :) 14:07:44 <PublicServer> <Tray> we reload 14:07:46 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> or to make a mountain 14:07:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> he will get banned quazbutt :) 14:07:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> his ass will be blown up :D 14:08:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is more exact expression :D 14:09:59 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> look i drew a life like penis 14:10:05 <PublicServer> <Dom> hmm to many vehicles.. 14:10:16 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> someone look before it disappears 14:10:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont you want to add vehicles when half of the map is suffering orbital bombardment Dom? 14:10:52 <PublicServer> <Dom> always more bombing! :D 14:11:06 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 14:11:08 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how do you actually design these massive stations? 14:11:13 *** Tray has quit IRC 14:11:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> you just do 14:11:16 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> the complexity seems... i dno 14:11:16 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> i use guess work 14:11:52 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and who sets up the trains to do the work 14:11:58 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do you do each train manually? 14:12:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nah, one per line, then we clone 14:12:22 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> well all the trains from say cravendale to a goods drop will be the same 14:12:44 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice you always use full load 14:12:46 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> then we share order (ctrl) clone 14:13:08 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> doesnth that tie up lines if the producer is not giving you enough goods? 14:13:14 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> nope 14:13:20 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> woot 14:13:22 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> as we have depots 14:13:32 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> that store additional trains 14:13:52 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do trains chill out in the depots if they cant move forward? 14:13:54 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> which u will be able to spot under all the guff 14:14:00 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> yep 14:14:06 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the drivers have a cup of tea 14:14:09 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> and just chill out 14:14:11 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> is that in the vanilla version of the game too? 14:14:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes but you have to be able to build it 14:14:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> and change some settings too 14:14:34 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> vanilla version? toy world?? :S 14:14:42 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i mean without mods 14:14:56 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> what are all these signs at the 14:14:58 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> BEER PICKUP 14:15:02 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> they do anything? 14:15:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> newGRFs cannot really change the game behavior massively 14:15:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> which signs 14:15:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> the text or signals? 14:15:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they can... look at the industry sets 14:15:41 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> um 14:15:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah but it doesnt change possibilities like building an overflow 14:15:51 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> ok at beer picup i kust see lots of signs on the road 14:16:01 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true 14:16:07 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> not road, ground 14:16:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> well text doesnt do anything that is just notes 14:16:31 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> no no 14:16:35 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> actual signs on the grass 14:16:49 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats just bought land 14:16:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> unless you mean rails i have no clue 14:16:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 14:17:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> that 14:17:08 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> you cant build on that? 14:17:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> just prevents industries from spawning there 14:17:22 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh 14:17:32 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> or keeps cities from growing too large 14:17:36 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> incase of need to make future changes? 14:17:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> y 14:17:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> cities dont grow without roads :p 14:17:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> yeah 14:18:12 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> how many hours has this game gone on for? 14:18:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> a week I think? 14:18:29 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> like 14:18:35 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> only a week? 14:18:49 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> wow so much trains built XD 14:18:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> 25.10.12 14:19:02 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> building trains is easy 14:19:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> done 14:19:11 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> but i notic that 3 lanes ineach direction is the standard approach atm 14:19:13 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice vin 14:19:19 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i meant rails 14:19:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> originally most tracks were 2 rails per direction 14:20:17 <GLAD0S> !password 14:20:18 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: daemon 14:20:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> some choices are awful long Vinnie :) but I think it should work 14:20:23 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh yeah how do you go about upgrading without disrupting *everything* 14:20:29 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> particularly with big upgrades 14:20:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> balanced 14:20:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimes we just disrupt everything 14:20:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi guys! 14:20:42 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S joined the game 14:20:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> without 500 tracks in middle 14:20:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> sometimes we dont 14:20:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello 14:20:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Hi 14:20:58 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow 14:20:58 <PublicServer> <Dom> Hi 14:21:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi glados 14:21:06 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and how are you identifying what needs chaging?? 14:21:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> you can clearly see the source of jams usually 14:21:22 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> god wow 14:21:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we look at the jams and start up our brains :D 14:21:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome to the other world :p 14:22:01 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> at Steel Pick 14:22:15 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i see a huge idustry looking thing 14:22:19 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> whats that? 14:22:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 14:22:31 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just station tiles 14:22:34 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do industries get bigger and take up more tiles? 14:22:40 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oh 14:22:46 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so someone built that to look nice 14:22:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah lol 14:22:52 <PublicServer> <Dom> yes :) 14:24:04 <PublicServer> *** quazbutt has left the game (general timeout) 14:24:04 <PublicServer> *** quazbutt has left the game (connection lost) 14:24:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> zooming out full is actually lagging my windows 7 laptop 14:24:18 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> quazmodo, if you want to see how big upgrades are made without disrupting traffic, look at Graningway 14:24:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> omg I have been discovered 14:24:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> owned 14:24:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> big brother is watching you :D 14:25:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 14:25:14 <quazimodo> !password 14:25:14 <PublicServer> quazimodo: dieing 14:25:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i have 3 viewports open atm^^ 14:25:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> have you been on that website 14:25:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> viewports are for the weak 14:25:36 <PublicServer> *** quazbutt joined the game 14:25:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol 14:25:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 openttdclients is for pro´s 14:25:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 14:25:48 <PublicServer> <Dom> xD 14:25:50 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> where's granningway 14:26:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> look it up on the towns button 14:26:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and put it in alphabetical order 14:26:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> by clicking name 14:26:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TRAFFICJAM SPOTTED 14:26:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are some 14:26:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 14:27:04 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be hard if there wasnt 14:27:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where did you see one? 14:27:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at 14:27:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait... 14:28:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just place a !jam sign 14:28:12 *** andbo has quit IRC 14:28:14 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah so its all progressive 14:28:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i cant anyway 14:28:24 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i wish i knewthe keyboard shortcuts 14:28:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Brb 14:28:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> soectatir 14:28:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> spectator 14:28:38 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 14:28:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at bbh 12/v453000 14:28:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it comes and goes 14:28:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> spelling fail 14:28:56 <PublicServer> <Dom> lol 14:29:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 14:29:02 <PublicServer> <Dom> why are we red now 14:29:04 <PublicServer> <Dom> lol 14:29:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> WE ALL SPECTATORS NOAW 14:29:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that looks cool 14:29:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> also who changes colours will be shot 14:29:37 <PublicServer> <Dom> and hanged 14:29:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> on site 14:29:41 <PublicServer> <Dom> and drowned 14:30:01 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> oi i liked the mauve 14:30:04 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> XD 14:30:11 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (general timeout) 14:30:11 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (connection lost) 14:30:27 <BenJTotterdell> !password 14:30:27 <PublicServer> BenJTotterdell: dieing 14:30:37 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does the nh mods do? 14:30:40 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell joined the game 14:30:45 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the NH mods do? 14:30:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> just different foundations 14:30:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> and depots 14:30:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 14:31:14 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i havea huge urge to begin growing the towns XD 14:31:14 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 14:31:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> the hell why 14:31:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for fun 14:31:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> .. 14:31:38 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so that the people have some place to live 14:31:50 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> all those hobos on the trains 14:32:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nowhere to go 14:32:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> there is no people the only inhabitants of this area are trains 14:32:02 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> it would be really cool if i could set aside some land, have the trains deliver people to it, and make a themepark in there 14:32:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they dont nee another place to live... they are all in the trains :D 14:32:12 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> and then if i click it, its roller coaster tycoon 14:32:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 14:32:40 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i join the company 14:32:46 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and help somehow 14:33:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure how could you possibly help at this stage but of course you can 14:33:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers 14:33:18 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has joined company #1 14:33:56 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wow, sideline 5 is packed with lost trains :D 14:34:02 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> ok finally finished 14:34:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk where those are from 14:34:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wheres that 14:34:49 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i think they feared your Dynamit, and drove off the ML 14:34:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 14:35:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> pussies 14:35:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t 14:35:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at slh 06 /dwarf 14:35:46 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> do these industries start to produce more as you add bigger stations and take mmore? 14:36:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> no it just requires good servicing and time 14:36:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> bigger stations are the result 14:36:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 14:36:16 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> sure 14:36:26 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> so more trains makes them produce more heh 14:36:28 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> eh 14:36:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> +- 14:36:36 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> cos ive never seen a woods that makes 450 tonnes :/ 14:36:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2295 is the maximum 14:36:58 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats the difference between a normal order and a nonstop order 14:37:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> 2550 is maximum possibly reachable for very temporary time 14:37:14 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> vinnie, I thought we were doing 5 lines out of MSH 02 :/ 14:37:18 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> yeah but how do you make a woods actually do that 14:37:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> 6 BenTotterdell 14:37:27 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> most ive seen is 140 on my mpas 14:37:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> quazbutt: you just make a train always load there 14:37:33 <PublicServer> <V453000> and wait 14:37:39 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> dang 14:37:41 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I see 14:37:47 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> didn't zoom in enough 14:37:53 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (general timeout) 14:37:53 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (connection lost) 14:38:37 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i notice that all trains basically have 2 lines that they can go down 14:38:37 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> erm 14:38:40 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> i mean statios 14:38:50 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> they go to 2 stations for the most part 14:39:13 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> whats the quick key for trees? 14:39:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> well yeah of course you need to have at least 1 train waiting in the station at all times 14:39:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> somewhere in the right part of keyboard 14:39:43 <PublicServer> <quazbutt> anyone see the giant tree penis i made? 14:39:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> I 14:39:52 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> thanks V :P 14:40:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> yw. 14:40:41 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> SLH06 Jam solved 14:40:43 *** Jacko has joined #openttdcoop 14:40:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> SLH 05 moved 14:40:53 <Jacko> ok now this might be working 14:40:56 <Jacko> !password 14:40:56 <PublicServer> Jacko: gaunts 14:40:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> hello :) 14:41:00 <Jacko> aha 14:41:02 <Jacko> hi 14:41:17 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. joined the game 14:41:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi 14:41:21 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats sooo cool 14:41:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> welcome 14:41:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi 14:41:26 <PublicServer> <Dom> hi 14:41:36 <PublicServer> *** quazbutt has left the game (leaving) 14:41:49 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> those are my kind of junctions... but bigger :O 14:42:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes we secretly copied from you 14:42:14 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 14:42:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D 14:42:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> without any screens or saves from me thats rather impressive :D 14:42:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^ 14:42:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> who says we dont have your saves? 14:42:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i did lol 14:43:14 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> are you sure about it? 14:43:24 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> not any more lol 14:43:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D 14:43:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> anyways 14:43:41 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. has joined company #1 14:44:21 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well now, this is...... quite confusing 14:44:40 *** GLAD0S has quit IRC 14:44:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> what devilish thing have you found 14:44:51 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im sure once i get my head around the priority stuff everything else will be much simpler.. i hope 14:45:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will help a bit :p 14:45:05 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im looking around 'soon to be gone town' 14:45:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> priorities are easy 14:45:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k 14:45:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> merging any to any is thereally confusing thing 14:45:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> at least to me 14:45:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes that is basically the hardest thing 14:46:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and if i see BBH 04 for example... brain overload 14:46:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> I notice that short trains are always used 14:46:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> the overflows and other logic stuff that I like to annoy people with is usually rather simple to build once you understand it 14:46:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im eager to learn and im on holiday so lets get going! 14:46:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> not always 14:46:41 *** Maraxus has joined #openttdcoop 14:46:46 <Maraxus> !password 14:46:46 <PublicServer> Maraxus: gaunts 14:46:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> well priority is the first thing, that is the basic understanding of presignals 14:47:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got an idea of how presignals work 14:47:00 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 14:47:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> from that derives the general network system 14:47:08 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 14:47:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 14:47:13 <PublicServer> <Dom> hi 14:47:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hi 14:47:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> the priority is just a chain of presignals, getting red when a train is at any part of the chain 14:47:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats all 14:48:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im going to go lok at the wiki page again 14:48:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> always a good place to start with 14:48:54 <Jacko> hehe 14:49:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i started with old PSG saves... first thought: WTF? then i worked into it 14:50:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> the best is to try building 14:50:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> in SP or here, just trying 14:51:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> even the wiki contains old and today considered wrong information 14:51:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> when you try it you generally see why 14:51:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep. But before i saw my first PSG, i didnt even know about priors 14:51:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I only used presignals the "vanilla" way 14:52:13 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> how do u follow a train? 14:52:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> open trian window 14:52:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> ctrl click on the eye 14:52:38 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> eye? 14:52:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> well the first button in the right panel 14:52:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the upper button 14:52:58 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> the arrows ok 14:53:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> might be arrows in opengfx 14:53:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> lol 14:53:40 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you play with the classic TP? 14:53:53 *** dada_ has quit IRC 14:53:58 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> sometimes 14:54:00 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> I switch 14:54:07 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> this is a much smaller console 14:54:10 <PublicServer> <BenTotterdell> so it is harder 14:54:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> tp? 14:54:45 <PublicServer> *** BenTotterdell has left the game (leaving) 14:55:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> you mean the original base set? 14:55:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk what TP means :d 14:55:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> texture pack (graphics set) 14:55:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh 14:55:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> of course 14:55:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ttd set is best 14:55:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx is free but ... 14:55:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok read the basics of presignal stuff 14:55:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> of it i knew anyway 14:56:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *most of it 14:56:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the only thing I dont like about open gfx are teh fields... they look kinda purple 14:56:50 <BenJTotterdell> i'd best do some work now 14:56:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> use open gfx 14:56:57 <BenJTotterdell> c yas later 14:56:58 *** BenJTotterdell has quit IRC 14:57:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *i dont 14:57:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> opengfx has no artistic value to me 14:57:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> something weird with my keyboard is going on here 14:58:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea its basically a copy of original gfx 14:58:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> no treally 14:58:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> that isnt the point 14:58:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> the style just lacks contrast and bright pixels in general 14:59:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> true, and its even worse in 32bpp 14:59:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 14:59:57 *** TNepr has joined #openttdcoop 15:01:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh Vinnie is gone? 15:01:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looking at your network plan (whihci s kinda cool) what does the CL mean? 15:01:40 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> curve length 15:01:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh ok 15:02:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it means no curves shorter than CL 15:02:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> or else! 15:02:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know 15:02:37 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> to keep the trains on max speed 15:02:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> or else? 15:03:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so basically is there anything that needs doing this game? 15:03:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> you + dynamite = ??? 15:03:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are expanding in a lot of places Jacko. 15:03:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha ok 15:03:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im watching the new junction being built 15:03:54 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which? 15:04:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> Saningstone 15:04:14 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh bbh05 is under work again :D 15:04:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> I just started there as vinnie left it alone 15:04:24 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 15:05:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> a lot of tunnels hehe 15:05:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is that 2 for every one? 15:05:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:05:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> because otherwise the trains wait behind it. 15:05:40 <PublicServer> <V453000> well in this case 1 tunnel might actually be enough 15:05:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> but safety is 2 15:05:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know that (very) basic concept 15:06:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the longer the gap, the more tunnels needed 15:06:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> makes perfect sens ;) 15:06:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *sense 15:06:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so how will this fit in with BBH 5 operating right next to it? 15:06:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> it wont 15:07:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is basically a rebuild 15:07:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 15:07:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> the area between BBH 05 and MSH 02 got too clumped 15:07:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is this replacing BBH 5 then 15:07:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> so we expand/rebuild at the same time 15:07:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:08:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ah ok makes a lot more sense to me now 15:09:05 <quazimodo> so 15:09:08 <quazimodo> bridges suck 15:09:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:09:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> :d 15:09:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as always 15:12:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> how exactly are you going to sort the old lines into the junction without causing mega disruption 15:13:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is what I am looking at right now 15:13:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> generally I am just going to expand MSH 02 now 15:13:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it is able to take it 15:13:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> my solution would normally be a sideline but i dont see any space for that 15:13:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> sideline is for something different that is where trains pick up cargo 15:14:01 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh 15:14:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> a diversion then? 15:14:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> no I will just try to make most of the stuff ready before connecting it 15:14:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> alright then 15:14:51 <PublicServer> <V453000> just kinda slowly movingthings around 15:15:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> a big jam might happen in the process, that is likely too 15:15:19 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems almost unavoidable to me 15:15:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but then i was never a super junction expert ;) 15:15:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> maybe 15:16:23 <Vinnie_> !password 15:16:23 <PublicServer> Vinnie_: nerved 15:16:33 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 15:16:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi 15:16:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> bitch 15:16:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:16:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> holla 15:18:42 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 15:18:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> k lets call that a 4th 15:19:32 *** Tray has joined #openttdcoop 15:20:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so who was working on BBH05? 15:20:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> me 15:20:43 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and im watching :D 15:20:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> so yeah it is his fault 15:20:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^ 15:20:55 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:21:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> always my faut 15:21:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> been here about 20 minutes :D 15:21:17 <PublicServer> <Dom> someone could expand bbh 13 15:21:24 <Tray> !password 15:21:24 <PublicServer> Tray: nerved 15:21:24 <PublicServer> <Dom> ups not yet 15:21:40 <PublicServer> <Dom> but soon 15:21:41 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 15:21:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 20 minutes and you managed to anger V 15:21:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ohh 15:21:54 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:22:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i did nothing 15:22:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> that doesnt matter! :p 15:24:52 <Sylf> nothing is still something :p 15:25:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:27:05 <Sylf> if ya wanna do something, add eye candies for the coal and woods station near the top of the map 15:27:21 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> eyecandy has never been my thing XD 15:27:22 <Ammler> !content 15:27:22 <PublicServer> Ammler: [Content] Connection established 15:27:47 <V453000> hm 15:27:49 <V453000> !ping 15:27:49 <PublicServer> V453000: pong 15:27:57 <V453000> !password 15:27:57 <PublicServer> V453000: aboded 15:27:58 <PublicServer> V453000: Downloading 1 file(s) (17408 bytes) 15:27:58 <PublicServer> V453000: Completed download of 2354 15:27:59 <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded) 15:28:00 <Webster> Read the Quickstart - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Quickstart (again, try !grf) 15:28:02 <Sylf> start practicing :) 15:28:18 <Jacko> i think i lost connection lol 15:28:24 <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] Connection closed not rised -> break 15:28:24 <PublicServer> V453000: [Content] Done! 15:28:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 15:28:24 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi has left the game (general timeout) 15:28:24 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi has left the game (connection lost) 15:28:24 <Jacko> yep its gone 15:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (general timeout) 15:28:26 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (connection lost) 15:28:28 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (general timeout) 15:28:28 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (connection lost) 15:28:30 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 15:28:30 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 15:28:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> well done Ammler :PP 15:28:35 <V453000> hm 15:28:43 <Sylf> huzzah! 15:28:43 <Jacko> the hell? 15:28:46 <Ammler> content finally should work :-P 15:28:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D 15:29:00 <PublicServer> <V453000> aka kicking everyone 15:29:01 <Maraxus> !password 15:29:01 <PublicServer> Maraxus: aboded 15:29:04 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:29:04 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 15:29:06 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 15:29:08 <Ammler> oh, nice :-P 15:29:19 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus joined the game 15:29:21 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. joined the game 15:29:23 <PublicServer> <V453000> im starting to like that command 15:29:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that was weird 15:29:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> WTF there was only 2 lines from BBH 08? 15:30:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> no matter now there is FOUR because fuck you trains 15:30:12 <Vinnie_> !password 15:30:12 <PublicServer> Vinnie_: aboded 15:31:05 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 15:31:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well so far the junction moving has gone swimmingly 15:31:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 09 expanding to be done if someone needs to do 15:31:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> it is almost done in fact Jacko 15:32:05 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know 15:32:06 <Dom_> !password 15:32:06 <PublicServer> Dom_: aboded 15:32:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looks great 15:32:13 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. has joined company #1 15:32:14 <Ammler> V453000: any idea, why it kicked all? 15:32:17 <PublicServer> *** Dom joined the game 15:32:19 <PublicServer> <V453000> not an awesome junction 15:32:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> connection issue I think Ammler 15:32:32 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well im a newbie so everything here looks awesome to me ;D 15:35:32 *** sturmi2 has joined #openttdcoop 15:37:19 *** TNepr has quit IRC 15:38:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> MSH 03 is kind of ... 15:38:57 <PublicServer> <Tray> big? 15:39:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:39:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> :z 15:39:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> I told Maraxus in the beginning already 15:39:39 <PublicServer> <Tray> but? 15:39:49 <PublicServer> <Tray> he decided to ignore? (: 15:39:59 <PublicServer> <V453000> but you see result :p 15:40:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> nah he said he would do something about it 15:40:15 <sturmi2> !password 15:40:15 <PublicServer> sturmi2: enrage 15:40:24 *** sturmi has quit IRC 15:40:29 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi joined the game 15:40:32 <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe it would be cool to fit a SLH inside that thing 15:40:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> :DD or two 15:40:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> would be cool but why? 15:40:58 <PublicServer> <V453000> just to show the hugeness 15:41:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> inside BBH05? 15:41:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> MSH03 15:42:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> some stuck trains in the new junction 15:42:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> their problem 15:42:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:42:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its friday, traindrivers got beer with them 15:42:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha 15:42:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> there happy 15:42:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> we are just a poor transportation company you CANT blame us 15:43:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im waving 15:44:12 <PublicServer> <V453000> Sturmi: did you say something about BBH 05 and me previously? 15:44:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe the 'boom' sound of the dyamite :D 15:44:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> like yesterday 15:44:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm? 15:44:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh come on short memory :) 15:45:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh you mean something like move it out ov V's range? 15:45:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes 15:45:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> its fucked now 15:45:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> nope 15:45:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> stupid tower being stupid :D 15:45:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> its fine 15:46:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> are the tunnels for prios? 15:46:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> tunnel that one 15:46:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> pretty much 15:46:19 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 15:46:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for the tower 15:46:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> ye 15:48:19 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> my brain is melting looking at that construction lol 15:48:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but i can learn this stuff :D 15:48:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hes just tring to make a prio 15:48:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> my brain has given up :d 15:48:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know that 15:48:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and thats about it XD 15:49:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> V i see one connection? 15:49:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> hang on 15:49:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> nukes falling 15:49:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> bbh 12 needs upgrade 15:49:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:49:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> do you merge MSH2 into the BBH? 15:50:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> sort of 15:50:37 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok now i understand why there are 6 eastbound lanes 15:52:27 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missed one in middle 15:52:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:53:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ikea junction guide 15:53:18 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> comes in 4000 bits of rail,bridge and tunnel 15:53:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> signals not included ;) 15:53:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but they do give spare signals 15:53:41 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> almost like the ikea xmas tree 15:53:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> incase you lose one or two 15:53:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:54:01 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> next moneth i would agree a bit more to that but yes 15:54:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *month 15:54:27 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> iim trying to figure out whihc way it prioritises 15:54:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> 3 tiles down the mainline 15:55:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yay 15:55:20 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> omg 15:55:26 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 15:55:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> looks like a game of snake gone horribly wrong 15:55:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> there are worse things ;) 15:55:48 <PublicServer> <Tray> it looks realy ugly ): 15:55:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> RIP snake 15:55:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 15:56:14 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg193_BRIDGES.png 15:56:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> ^^ 15:57:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats when he played 6 month on coop 15:57:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> months 15:57:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wtf 15:57:17 <PublicServer> <V453000> ? 15:57:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just looked at the screen 15:57:24 <sturmi2> another good one http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/File:Psg186_bbh01.png 15:57:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> haha 15:57:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got bridge blindness 15:57:34 <sturmi2> with perfect title 15:57:42 <PublicServer> <V453000> the brainmeltor 15:58:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> my brainmelter is your SRNW in PSG 200 15:58:20 <PublicServer> <V453000> oh yeah 15:58:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> that was amazing 15:58:27 <Jacko> *picks up bits of brain that have fallen out* 15:58:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the 5 islands psg? 15:58:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> 16 islands 15:58:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just looking at this stuff is giving me a headache 15:59:06 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok but like 5 themes 15:59:08 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> now i have to learn how to build it lol 15:59:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> no like 16 themes :p 15:59:19 <Jacko> XD 15:59:22 <Jacko> maybe 15:59:22 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with that huge (and messy) transfer station 15:59:33 <planetmaker> brainzzzzz! *slurp* 15:59:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for grain and cows 15:59:38 <Jacko> lol 15:59:56 <PublicServer> <Tray> it's a 10 -> 2 o: 16:00:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and so the finished junction... :O 16:00:44 <V453000> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/psg200%2C%202950-04-25.png¨ 16:00:48 <V453000> this is what Vinnie was talking about 16:00:54 <V453000> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20419525/psg200%2C%202950-04-25.png 16:01:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh yea the iron ore WTF 16:01:44 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wtf pretty mutch descrips it 16:01:46 <PublicServer> <V453000> it aint no WTF it was our pet :( 16:01:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:02:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well i wanna learn how to do this stuff badly 16:02:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> just do it 16:02:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> enough people to help you 16:02:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> at first glance its just a horrible mess of rails, but if you look deeply into it... 16:02:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and it would really make my day if i could see one of these junctions with my name pasted in it lol 16:02:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> this generally is just placing a lot of tracks at one spot 16:02:41 <PublicServer> <V453000> idk how to learn that 16:02:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt really have any deeper logic 16:02:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no i dont either >_< 16:03:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> you just try to fit things in one spot, move rails around and this is the result 16:03:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> its just several differnet bits merged into one place i guess 16:03:18 <planetmaker> Jacko, it just needs patience. Lots of patience 16:03:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> but systematically it isnt really anyhow special 16:03:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> probably what pm said is best 16:03:31 <PublicServer> <V453000> patience 16:03:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> eh 16:03:41 <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the more often you do these things the more familiar you get with very dense spots 16:03:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and dedication 16:03:47 <planetmaker> even at the times when I build those junctions weekly, it took me like 2 to 3 hourse for a full 4-way BBH with 2L2R tracks each direction 16:03:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so what else is broken? 16:03:56 <planetmaker> *hours. Not hourse 16:04:06 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 09 will be broken very soon probably 16:04:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> horses 16:04:12 <PublicServer> <Tray> 2 horses and a saddle! 16:04:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> *horses :p 16:04:14 <PublicServer> <V453000> Dom was already talking about 13 16:04:15 <planetmaker> those also ;-) 16:04:16 <PublicServer> <Dom> and bbh 13 16:04:21 <planetmaker> for food, of course 16:04:22 <PublicServer> <Dom> and bbh 12 16:04:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well ive played this since I was 6, and this is the first mega challenge, so i tell the OTTD world to bring it! 16:04:33 <PublicServer> <Dom> i upgraded msh 08 16:04:50 <planetmaker> stations usually are a bit easier than full 4-way BBHs :-) 16:05:13 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> primaries or drops? 16:05:13 <PublicServer> <V453000> a bit .p 16:05:15 <planetmaker> maybe not easier. But faster 16:05:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i saw the video of BBH 11 16:05:46 <V453000> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/7/77/Psg230.png I seriously enjoyed this game 16:05:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i guess once you know.. you just know 16:06:17 <V453000> and that junction is my favourite too :) or one of them at least 16:06:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that video brought me back onto the server 16:06:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that isnt a fair junction, empty space is filled up with tracks and 1 tile trains 16:06:45 <V453000> well at least it has some purpose Sturmi :) 16:06:51 <V453000> Vinnie: mfb added those :( 16:07:08 <Jacko> its kinda funny looking and seeing the signs of towns you destroyed for that monstrosity 16:07:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i bet you killed anyone that touched it 16:07:19 <V453000> I like the amount of bridge levels etc 16:07:27 <V453000> yes Mark even started nuking one of the mergers 16:08:04 <V453000> the fun part was expanding it from LLL_RRR and keeping footprint 16:08:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH9 looks ok to me, just fixed two signal gaps 16:08:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> should not be enough throughput wise soon 16:08:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> I think 16:09:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> So a 3rd to MSH05 would fix that 16:09:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no big thing 16:09:28 <PublicServer> <V453000> +- 16:10:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know its probably hidden on the wiki somewhere but how do you define when a gime is 'finished'? 16:10:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *game 16:11:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> when people are done 16:11:06 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 16:11:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fair enough 16:11:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but don't wait till next game to build 16:11:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no iwasnt planning to 16:11:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> people done it before and find out that the main thing is build in 3 hours 16:12:35 <V453000> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1 16:13:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> SLH 5 is looking very slow 16:14:23 <PublicServer> <Tray> I think BBH02 -> BBH12 is the problem wich might need a fourth line 16:14:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems to be contributing towards it yes 16:15:01 <PublicServer> <V453000> BOOZEFEST INITIATED 16:15:03 <PublicServer> <V453000> cya 16:15:06 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 16:15:08 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 16:15:10 <PublicServer> <Dom> bb hf 16:15:25 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (leaving) 16:16:01 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well im assuming you know this anyway but some work needs doing here 16:16:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> because generally if you fix something in one place it just cramps up in another 16:16:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats life 16:16:39 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 16:16:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 16:16:41 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone did SLH13 16:16:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i started on slh 13 16:16:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke 16:17:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just thinking about the merge 16:18:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats quite a hub for one station 16:18:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> oke 16:19:38 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> like this? 16:19:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sure 16:19:51 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but short is better 16:21:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> like that 16:21:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think 16:21:39 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> looks good 16:22:56 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttdcoop 16:24:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> in other news we nearly have £7 billion lol 16:24:18 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but thats not important 16:26:20 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i can see that MSH 8 is slow, and that works is being done, but what is being done? 16:28:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats what im saying 16:28:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if the split merge bit was doubled 16:28:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ML comes with 3 lanes into MSH8 16:28:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we could sort where the trains go before they enter the junction 16:28:45 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wanna give it a try jacko? 16:28:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe 16:28:55 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> with a bit of advice yes 16:29:10 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 16:29:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:29:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well 16:29:56 *** dada_ has joined #openttdcoop 16:29:59 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> alright im going in 16:30:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> is the spare lane between BBH 13 and SLH 1 connected fully? 16:30:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you also use that line with your gf? 16:30:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol i dont have a gf 16:30:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and never have :( 16:31:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> would that work out? 16:32:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k then 16:32:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i can sort priorities after 16:32:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lets get the connection in the right direcitions 16:33:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats very cool 16:33:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does the maths for you 16:33:51 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still 4 :o 16:33:58 <PublicServer> <Dom> gap 9 and you will need only 3 16:34:05 <PublicServer> <Dom> gap8 you need 2 16:34:16 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok gap9 wont be possible 16:34:22 <PublicServer> <Dom> oh sry gap 10 needs 3 16:34:37 <PublicServer> <Dom> till gap 14 16:35:19 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well.. its a start 16:35:37 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do you lot think? 16:36:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does that new layout work ok or does it need a bit more jumbling? 16:37:07 <PublicServer> <Dom> well some waiting bays are always goods 16:37:10 <PublicServer> <Dom> *good 16:37:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seems ok AFAIK 16:37:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which isnt very far 16:37:57 <PublicServer> <Dom> and cl and forced routes.. 16:38:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:38:16 <PublicServer> <Dom> and signal gaps :) 16:38:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe theres some room for improvement 16:39:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do mean by forced route? 16:39:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm yes 16:39:27 <PublicServer> <Dom> well pbs forces the train to take the free track even if it would be into the wron directions 16:39:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does it? 16:39:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm thats news to me 16:39:43 <PublicServer> <Dom> trains may get lost 16:40:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missing exit to South 16:40:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm thats an issue 16:40:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> though currently everything seems ok 16:40:45 <PublicServer> <Dom> oh and jacko also look that the cruves have a lenght of 3 tiles 16:41:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:41:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im struggling to see which curves... 16:41:40 <PublicServer> <Dom> well the ones that are 1 ore 2 tiles long :) 16:41:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:41:50 <PublicServer> <Dom> see signs cl 16:42:24 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think the waiting bay is long enough now 16:42:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh through the middle 16:42:57 <PublicServer> <Dom> well one of them is the other isn't 16:43:59 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that any better? 16:44:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> quick question could we make those tunnels slightly longer as ithink one of the curves are too short 16:44:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> wich curve? 16:45:02 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no S bend 16:45:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its fine 16:45:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> but ok 16:45:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cool 16:45:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> can i paste my name on a sign saying I did that? 16:45:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh 16:45:59 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i take that to be a no lol 16:46:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> these tunnels are almost maximum for 4 tunnels 16:46:15 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> brb 16:46:18 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 16:46:32 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yyeah those tunnels are ok 16:46:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i just wanted to use that function so bad lol 16:49:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everything looks ok now 16:49:30 <PublicServer> <Dom> well almost 16:49:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> whats missing? 16:49:46 <PublicServer> <Dom> the lines on the other sides of the tunnel needs a straight one north 16:49:57 <PublicServer> <Dom> connecting msh 08 16:50:08 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats not me lol 16:50:50 <PublicServer> <Dom> me 16:50:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok 16:50:55 <PublicServer> <Dom> some missing signals 16:51:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just have a cigarette break :) 16:51:06 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k 16:51:10 <PublicServer> <Dom> k 16:51:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i was nowhere near finished but thx :) 16:51:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wait you said about tunnels to msh8? 16:52:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 16:52:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:52:46 <PublicServer> <Dom> gtgo 16:52:48 <PublicServer> <Dom> bb 16:52:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k 16:52:54 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu 16:52:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya 16:52:58 <PublicServer> *** Dom has left the game (leaving) 16:53:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i have a crack at this 16:53:05 *** Dom_ has quit IRC 16:53:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm its heading down that way to slh 1 16:54:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 16:54:51 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> space as always is an issue here... 16:55:49 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hm hm hm 16:57:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> south to west should be ok 16:57:54 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> currently im deciphering how to get fomr the top of the tunnels to msh 8 16:58:08 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which i keep think ing as mash :D 16:59:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmmm 17:03:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i just realised 17:04:01 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 17:04:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> why do i never think of the obvious 17:04:19 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> only 2 tunnels needed 17:04:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the last bridges were ok 17:04:49 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sort of 17:05:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they were going the wrong way >_< 17:05:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i forgot which way i was going so they went to the wrong bit 17:05:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> were they? 17:05:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol 17:05:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they need to cross over again 17:06:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> funny part will be the merge behind the MSH 17:06:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not much space 17:06:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yes 17:06:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm... 17:07:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> also what to do considering the jct between the tunnels and brisges 17:07:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *bridges 17:07:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i got an idea 17:07:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh 17:08:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 17:08:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what do you want to do? 17:08:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im trying to get the new line inbetween 17:09:04 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you mean the line into the station? 17:09:08 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah 17:09:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as then it could juggle the middle line between the free bridges 17:10:06 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats no good idea, it could block easily 17:10:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> bit of prio 17:10:27 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> umm 17:10:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> like that? 17:11:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so the bridges have priority over the middle 17:11:24 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 17:11:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> does that seem right or have i made a stupid error? 17:11:31 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> *me is confused 17:12:13 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm... its complete nonsense 17:12:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yay 17:12:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because its no merge, but a split 17:12:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no theyre merging 17:12:56 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not yet... 17:13:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh 17:13:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> or merge after tunnels? 17:13:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why are you giong noth->south? that line is already done 17:14:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> dom suggested we shoudl lol 17:14:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh 17:14:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm lets analyze 17:14:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wait hang on 17:14:42 *** GLAD0S has joined #openttdcoop 17:14:51 <GLAD0S> !password 17:14:51 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: floras 17:14:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i might be soing something stupid 17:15:12 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S joined the game 17:15:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi 17:15:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i mightve been right 1st time round 17:15:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im confused now 17:16:06 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> which way and which bit is to be connected to the tunnels? 17:16:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *facepalms massively* 17:16:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the two that i placed? 17:16:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats the bypass 17:16:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> nonono the 4 17:16:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 17:16:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 17:16:51 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> uhh hi 17:16:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey glados 17:17:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi 17:17:29 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you mean !these tunnels? 17:17:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think this is what he meant 17:17:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the four under BBH 13 17:18:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats the connection from S to W 17:18:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> x 17:18:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> from there you'll go further north 17:18:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh i dont know anymore... 17:18:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i check what he said 17:18:45 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> idea! 17:18:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a maglev line? 17:18:55 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im checking the console 17:19:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> he said 'the lines on the tunnels needs a straight one going north' 17:19:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *other sides of the tunnels 17:20:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 17:20:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 17:21:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> m 17:21:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bad 17:21:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they need to be same lenth 17:21:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no 17:21:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that 17:22:06 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> as they split and join, they dont need to be the same length 17:22:09 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> anyway 17:22:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true, but looks nicer 17:22:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i ake one more? 17:22:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> o 17:22:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no 17:22:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> line 17:22:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> kk 17:22:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we dont need a 4th bridge 17:22:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its just important that they are synced 17:22:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> awwait, maybe we do 17:23:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 17:23:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok 17:23:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dleete other useless stuff >_< 17:23:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> xx 17:24:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fuck 17:24:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wasnt me 17:24:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wow 17:24:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really? 17:24:15 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what=? 17:24:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i was clearing signs 17:24:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> then boom 17:24:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where? 17:24:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> right next to preps sign 17:24:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at preps for 3rd 17:24:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> was me accidentally 17:24:45 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> anything bad? 17:24:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry guy 17:24:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh 17:24:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> train crash 17:24:55 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> >_< 17:24:59 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry guys 17:25:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lesson learned XD 17:25:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i get blamed for this cuz im noob >_< 17:25:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why? 17:25:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> did you delete signals? 17:25:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i didnt do anything 17:25:47 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (general timeout) 17:25:47 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (connection lost) 17:25:52 <GLAD0S> !password 17:25:52 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: swampy 17:25:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> leave that for now 17:26:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back 17:26:26 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S joined the game 17:26:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so what actually happened? 17:26:56 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Glados: if you deletet signals, tell me 17:27:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dont think i deleted any signals 17:27:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i made it ignore sign because it wasnt moving at a free space 17:27:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> still doing it 17:27:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> omg 17:27:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> when i said signs i meant the bits of writing :O 17:27:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do you see? 17:27:54 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah 17:28:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i didnt think there was trains 17:28:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> train 828 17:28:21 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> this is odd 17:28:23 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (general timeout) 17:28:23 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (connection lost) 17:28:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> train 828 is standing for a reason 17:28:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think its the signal on the junction 17:28:43 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> not the one its waiting at 17:28:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the double 17:29:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if you zoom right in (32 bpp level) i could sign it 17:29:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> fixed 17:29:57 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was missing a presignal 17:30:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok 17:30:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu in some minutes 17:30:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> k 17:30:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh maybe not 17:31:32 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ok now its fixed 17:32:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> phew panic over 17:33:55 *** GLAD0S has quit IRC 17:36:29 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> back 17:36:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh sorry went afk for a sec 17:37:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> dont be sorry, i was away longer :) 17:37:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 17:37:49 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 17:38:43 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the entry to the goods unloading is jamming up :( 17:39:05 <PublicServer> <V453000> that is actually just waiting trains for that choice 17:39:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh 17:39:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and hi again 17:39:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> just a result of such a long choice 17:39:18 <PublicServer> <V453000> hi 17:39:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> solvable with something like this 17:39:34 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 17:39:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh ok so this is normal then 17:39:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i think that merge needs a complete rebuild 17:40:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> possibly 17:40:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> it could use one but it isnt that terrible 17:40:11 <PublicServer> <V453000> small moves can solve this 17:40:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> theres still one track unconnected 17:41:03 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 17:41:15 <PublicServer> <V453000> how about something like this 17:41:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> just giving the option to re-choose 17:41:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hmm 17:41:27 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> doesnt seem to be helping 17:41:50 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> stick a path signal there instead 17:41:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what about merging the 4 tunnels beforehand? 17:42:21 <PublicServer> <V453000> what do you mean by that 17:43:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> the 3rd line from North tunnel under the MSH, which forces trains into the "choices" 17:44:48 <PublicServer> <V453000> ah right 17:45:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> well that is an option but generally if you can make the choices as close to the "finish" of the choices, the better 17:45:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Tunnels 1-4 are one track 17:46:20 <Vinnie_> !password 17:46:20 <PublicServer> Vinnie_: slacks 17:46:33 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie joined the game 17:46:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hello again 17:46:42 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wb 17:46:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> hiy 17:47:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> erm... i am stupid... 17:48:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we already have a 3rd north exit on bbh13 17:50:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> why was that obsolite? 17:50:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because that wout be a 4th lane 17:51:02 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> we already have 3 between bbh13 and msh8 17:51:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> not complete 17:51:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not through the bbh, true 17:52:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> A to B 17:52:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that is 3rd 17:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. has left the game (general timeout) 17:53:18 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. has left the game (connection lost) 17:54:14 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so we need a route C->A 17:54:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah 17:54:38 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not from B to past MSH 17:54:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then you got proper 3rd 17:54:40 *** Jacko has quit IRC 18:00:25 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 18:04:04 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> any reason for these !stations? 18:04:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no 18:07:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> BBH03 is getting crappy 18:08:10 <PublicServer> <V453000> well LL output .. :) 18:08:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i shouldnt be allowed to fix that 18:08:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> unless i got more beer 18:08:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :D 18:12:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you building? 18:13:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> im not sure if I would be actually able to build :d 18:13:36 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 18:13:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats the perfect time to build 18:13:58 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no wait second best time 18:14:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> best time is when your on toilet 18:14:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> best time to build shit? 18:15:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no best ideas come on the toilet 18:15:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats true 18:15:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so best time to build something good is when your on toilet 18:15:51 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 18:16:08 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop 18:16:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 18:23:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> looks hard 18:24:43 *** GLAD0S has joined #openttdcoop 18:24:45 <GLAD0S> !password 18:24:45 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: jetted 18:25:05 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S joined the game 18:25:06 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back 18:25:52 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> diagonal bridges would be nice sometimes 18:26:23 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 18:28:04 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:28:12 <PublicServer> <Jam35> yello 18:28:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey Jam 18:34:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ok? 18:34:37 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> seems to work 18:44:16 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> great 18:44:22 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ? 18:44:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> now the other side fails 18:44:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> west end? 18:44:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ssi 18:44:54 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> already failed before :D 18:45:08 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> hubs are to close 18:45:14 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> expansion is hard 18:45:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> are you welcome on proserver? 18:46:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not that i know 18:47:33 <V453000> how is the pz relevant in any way shape or form 18:47:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> change of game 18:48:11 <V453000> not exactly :) 18:48:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back 18:48:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> is there a pz game running atm? 18:48:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> when do you restart the map? 18:49:09 <V453000> rcon kick GLAD0S 18:49:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth? 18:49:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> jokes 18:49:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i dont think he is joking 18:49:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 18:49:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth have i done? 18:49:53 <V453000> well obviously I was but you asked a wrong question :P 18:49:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> sum up, that question wasnt smart 18:50:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just want to build something 18:50:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean can i help 18:50:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anywhere 18:50:40 <V453000> dont ask about next game then and try now :p 18:50:42 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> me BBH08 18:50:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:50:52 <V453000> for examle bottom part of the map has free farms 18:50:57 <V453000> connct them to the SLHs 18:51:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:51:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres one free farm 18:52:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wheres the slh 18:52:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> where is your farm 18:52:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> n 18:52:35 <PublicServer> <Jam35> I see 4 so far... 18:53:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i do the one near great sluningley 18:53:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait 18:53:35 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that one seems better 18:53:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but harder to connect 18:53:58 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok... 18:54:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if you take teham farm you cann connect easily to the sideline 18:54:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> should i use the other one but terraforM 18:54:09 <PublicServer> <V453000> I will mark them with farmX 18:54:24 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined company #1 18:54:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> kk 18:54:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:54:44 <PublicServer> <V453000> farm1-4 18:54:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how big does the train have to be? 18:54:50 <PublicServer> <V453000> try those first 18:55:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> what? 18:55:16 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> trains have to be length 3 18:55:22 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:55:24 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> with Asia star 18:55:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers 18:55:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so should i make a riro station for it? 18:56:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which farm did you choose 18:56:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 1 18:56:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> better turn the station and make no roro 18:57:04 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:57:18 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> would be too hard to connect properly like that 18:57:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 18:57:42 <PublicServer> <Jam35> and make separate grain/livestock stations... 18:58:00 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has joined spectators 18:58:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:58:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be easier to make a riro 2 riro stations... 18:59:04 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> do as you want 18:59:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 18:59:48 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> Roll in Roll out? 19:05:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> who wants to play with BBH04 19:05:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> busy 19:06:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> BBH04? i am not that mad xD 19:06:45 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> scared? 19:06:47 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :D 19:06:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> he can only kill us once 19:07:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> I still have plans for the rest of my life, so... yes i am 19:07:23 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 19:07:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yeah you live next to him, he might find you first 19:08:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> good that i moved to cologne 19:08:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> on the route to me 19:08:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just spend my holidays near V 19:08:22 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 19:08:32 <PublicServer> <V453000> AND HE SURVIVED 19:08:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> shit he is awake 19:08:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> someone give him more beer 19:08:53 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> glados pls dont terraform the whole place 19:09:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry 19:09:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:09:13 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im not sure how to go about it 19:09:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> can i sho wyou? 19:09:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:09:36 <PublicServer> <V453000> BBH 04 seems ~fine btw :) 19:09:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ive done one 19:09:45 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres little space 19:09:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i think it needs 4 exits to West 19:09:54 <PublicServer> <V453000> it will 19:09:56 <PublicServer> <V453000> doesnt yet 19:10:06 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:10:08 <PublicServer> <V453000> it doesnt jam the input 19:10:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like a boss XD 19:10:28 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then i can't find anymore bottlenecks 19:10:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait 19:11:04 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why? 19:11:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> because the turn is too tight 19:11:36 <Tray> !password 19:11:36 <PublicServer> Tray: astute 19:11:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it may as not have two bridges 19:11:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that 19:12:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like that? 19:12:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that better 19:12:30 <PublicServer> *** Tray joined the game 19:12:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> would be okayy too but its better to keep the doubled track short 19:12:50 <PublicServer> <Tray> wher's the time when @@slowstart had any meaning to newcomers? 19:12:50 <Webster> Read everything on the wiki, and I mean everything 19:13:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah i know 19:13:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait... 19:13:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that better 19:13:46 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 19:14:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well, no 19:14:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 19:14:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:14:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wait 19:14:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the pbs is useless in this case 19:14:31 <PublicServer> <Tray> vehicle cap ): 19:14:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its a primary 19:14:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> thats even worse 19:14:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work 19:14:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no need for sync, doublebridge 19:15:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work? 19:15:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> in fact yes, but no advantages to the first layout 19:16:13 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the curve behind the bridge is now too tight 19:16:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> except the first layou 19:16:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:16:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> this is lake snake with dynamite 19:16:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 19:16:55 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:17:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth? 19:17:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> theres more than one lake spanke 19:17:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> whoo server lag 19:17:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 19:17:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not for me 19:18:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> stop 19:18:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you lose 19:18:07 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> you killed his track 19:18:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does that work? 19:18:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope 19:18:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats kind of double 19:18:49 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:19:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 19:19:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> same 19:22:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> afk 19:22:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> <<-- not now 19:23:10 <PublicServer> <Tray> BBH 02 is not runnign smooth 19:23:21 <PublicServer> <Tray> we should fix that first 19:24:05 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> missing prio's 19:25:03 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and unbalanced merge 19:27:56 <PublicServer> <Tray> maybe we should merge 02 and 12 because I think that would be easier than put a 4th in between 19:28:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 19:28:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a train for my line? 19:28:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> GLAD0S: we hit trainlimit 19:29:00 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> we need to ask admin 19:29:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:29:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so 1,333 is limit 19:29:39 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> for now 19:30:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:30:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> merging 2 and 12 is a big job 19:30:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 19:30:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vinnie is a compelte bitch dont believe him 19:30:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its true 19:30:37 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> dont believe me 19:30:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so hase someone done farm 2? 19:30:51 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean 3 19:31:01 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 19:32:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so the main line can handle 1,333, but understandeably, no one want to try it out yet with out admin permission 19:32:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> \ 19:32:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to try out putiing more on 19:32:34 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i can say a good anser to that 19:32:40 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> but you wont believe me 19:32:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what? 19:33:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TELL MEH 19:33:25 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> admins can only raise trainlimit 19:33:31 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no admins here 19:33:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok so only admins 19:33:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> last one just left 19:33:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> shame 19:33:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so ill help with bottlenecks and stuff 19:33:51 <planetmaker> !rcon max_trains 19:33:51 <PublicServer> planetmaker: ERROR: command not found 19:33:57 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 19:33:57 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1555' (min: 0, max: 5000) 19:34:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it makes sense how only admins can raise train limits 19:34:06 <planetmaker> !rcon companies 19:34:06 <PublicServer> planetmaker: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Gatston Transport' Year Founded: 2100 Money: 7886944132 Loan: 0 Value: 7889974381 (T:1333, R:2, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:34:12 <planetmaker> eh? 19:34:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is there anywhere that needs help? 19:35:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just going to follow a particular train 19:35:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be near impossible to upgrade this whole line 19:36:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to maglev without mods 19:36:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can anyone contact an admin? 19:36:35 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> did you see the white name pass by? 19:36:38 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> about 2 min ago 19:36:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> he left 19:36:54 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no he is on irc 19:36:56 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> ask him 19:36:58 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really? 19:37:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill contact 19:37:23 <GLAD0S> can an admin raise the amount of trains on the line? 19:38:02 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined spectators 19:38:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> he isnt on irc 19:38:23 <planetmaker> really... the train limit is (much) higher than the train count 19:38:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really? 19:38:30 <planetmaker> I've no clue what you're talking about 19:38:40 <V453000> lol 19:38:41 <planetmaker> and that's the case all the time you "discuss" it 19:38:50 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they said that we cant use any more trains 19:39:12 <V453000> I am pretty sure I didnt say any of that 19:39:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> they did... 19:39:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so can i? 19:39:26 <planetmaker> "they"? 19:39:42 <planetmaker> usually it's only one person saying a particular thing ;-) 19:39:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the other people on server 19:40:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so can i make another train? 19:40:09 <planetmaker> well. At this train count as we have now it usually makes sense a lot to first tend all the weak spots in the network than just adding more trains 19:40:20 <planetmaker> GLAD0S, did you even try to build a train? 19:40:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no not yet 19:40:40 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not yet on this server 19:40:46 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> GLAD0S: ask it like this. Planetmaker, we hit the trainlimit of 1333 trains, could it be raised, please" 19:40:58 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 19:41:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im confused 19:41:07 <planetmaker> Vinnie_, but all the time since this discussion started, it's 1555! 19:41:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> u say the trainlimits much (much) higher 19:41:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> bäck 19:41:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok thanks 19:41:29 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> then why is he asking? 19:41:45 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because i wasnt sure 19:41:47 <planetmaker> does no-one here see IRC? You should then all have seen me query the train count? 19:41:51 <V453000> I thought I was the only person drunk in this area yet only me and pm seem to know whats up 19:41:51 <planetmaker> !rcon set max_trains 19:41:51 <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_trains' is: '1555' (min: 0, max: 5000) 19:41:58 <planetmaker> ^^ Anyone should have seen that line 19:42:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thats in another window 19:42:13 <planetmaker> ? 19:42:40 <Vinnie_> I dont have two screens with one for openttd and one for IRC 19:42:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 19:43:04 <planetmaker> it's convenient, Vinnie_ ;-) 19:43:05 <V453000> well if you ask for something it is good to look in the irc :) 19:43:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> second screen is for porn anyway :p 19:43:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> w 19:44:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i wanna say something now strumi but i get kicked for that 19:44:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do i take the grain to tardstone factory? 19:44:50 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> copy train from trainyard 19:44:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:45:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 19:45:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats the difference between a normal order and a nonstop order 19:46:04 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> non stop means, doesnt stop on other stations 19:46:10 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> better if a train gets lost 19:49:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i make a train group called GLAD0S trains? 19:49:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone 19:50:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys 19:50:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> TELL MEH 19:50:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or do i class it as Goods_Grain or Grain 19:51:13 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh... ill class it as GLAD0S Grain 19:53:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is anyone on? 19:53:18 <PublicServer> <Tray> yes 19:53:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you answer me then? 19:53:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i dont know what to do 19:53:45 <PublicServer> <Tray> why do you want that different trains group? 19:54:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so i can put the right amount of trains to optimize 19:54:55 <PublicServer> <Tray> You can easily access the trains belonging to a particular station by clicking on the trains symbol in the stationswindow 19:55:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really? 19:55:17 <PublicServer> <Tray> yes 19:55:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok cheers 19:56:48 *** TNepr has joined #openttdcoop 19:56:55 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (general timeout) 19:56:55 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (connection lost) 19:56:59 <GLAD0S> !password 19:57:00 <PublicServer> GLAD0S: amoral 19:57:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> back 19:57:21 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S joined the game 19:58:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it only shows the farm 19:59:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt show the trains working on it 19:59:27 <PublicServer> <Tray> it shows all trains that have an order to visit the farm 19:59:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean the trains which have it in its order 19:59:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> doesnt for me... 19:59:54 <PublicServer> <Tray> are you sure? 19:59:58 <PublicServer> <Jam35> click the station, then click the train button 20:00:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no 20:00:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i have two on it 20:00:24 <PublicServer> <Tray> for example, what happens if you click on the trains button of a main stations? 20:00:27 *** TNepr1 has joined #openttdcoop 20:00:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> shows me the stations 20:00:41 <PublicServer> <Tray> it shows a number > than 100 for me 20:00:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 20:01:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 20:01:12 <PublicServer> <Tray> click on a station -> in the buttom line is next to 'Rename' a little train icon 20:01:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are u on windows 20:01:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> OH 20:01:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i was using the menu 20:01:46 <PublicServer> <Tray> found it? 20:01:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 20:01:50 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it works 20:01:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but i thought it was on the menu 20:02:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cheers 20:02:05 <PublicServer> <Jam35> TFFT 20:02:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> im going to follow my train 20:02:22 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u know how to make it so the view is locked on the train? 20:02:26 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 20:03:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thanks 20:03:16 *** Jam35 has left #openttdcoop 20:03:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ill work on other farms now! 20:03:32 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 20:04:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> best free game EVAR 20:04:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does slh stand for? 20:05:20 <KenjiE20> @slh 20:05:20 <Webster> slh: Sideline Hub, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Sideline_Hub 20:06:56 *** TNepr has quit IRC 20:08:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys look at /GLADOS FARM 1 do you think the connection to the main line is ok 20:09:00 <PublicServer> <Tray> like this 20:12:53 <PublicServer> <Tray> my BBH 02 work looks much more wierd than I expected 20:14:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> GUYS STANGE JAM FAIL THING GOING ON 20:14:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> wtf? 20:14:25 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at beer pickup 20:14:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do you see 20:15:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there ok 20:15:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> fixed 20:15:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WTF 20:15:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and made a train crash 20:15:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> mate 20:15:26 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> so in 5 min jam is gone 20:15:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> u fixed it and killed two trains 20:15:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> trains are replacable :p 20:15:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 20:15:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true 20:15:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but i dont get how that happened 20:16:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> did you make it ignore the signal? 20:16:02 <PublicServer> <Tray> on this server some things differ a lot from the normal gameplay 20:16:06 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 20:16:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i know 20:16:22 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> turn it arround 20:16:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 20:16:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but how did the train crash then? 20:16:49 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> train is stuborn 20:16:59 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> thinks track is clear 20:17:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am not sure but are these trains supposed to enter the station from north end? 20:17:47 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> both sides 20:17:49 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i think it was both 20:17:55 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> depends on the set of platforms 20:17:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> which is strange 20:17:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok 20:18:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and hard to deal with 20:18:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> guys look at /GLAD0S farm 2 20:18:21 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> follow overflow track 20:18:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u think it works ok? 20:18:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok if i see right, thats the entry for overflowed trains 20:18:58 <PublicServer> <Tray> I had one rule from the beginning of my time on openttdcoop: don't try to understand V's station if you did not watch him build it. 20:19:08 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> weird/advanced station design 20:19:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well i watched him... doesnt help much :p 20:19:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but usually efficient 20:19:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but make no sense to the naked eye 20:20:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are exactly two options: try to understand it or shut off brain 20:20:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i choose shut off brain 20:20:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because it looks messed up 20:21:18 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> huge efficient stations usually look messed up until you understand them 20:21:50 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined spectators 20:21:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> DAMN 20:22:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 20:22:31 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ? 20:22:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> something with my trains that i made 20:22:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> fixed 20:23:05 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has joined company #1 20:23:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> I have spinny chair XD 20:24:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> that also occasinally happens 20:24:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 20:24:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> its in the station design 20:24:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> woot? another crash? 20:25:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> this game has the best pathfinder ever in the history of the world 20:25:12 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> automatic crash 20:25:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 20:25:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> :O 20:25:23 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> no human interatcion involved 20:25:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where 20:25:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> PBS vs Block Signals? 20:25:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> yes 20:26:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> shouldnt the path be reserved? 20:26:36 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> they can both get a green in the same time 20:26:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice feature 20:27:17 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and one reversed PBS to seperate the signalblocks but not capable of stopping trains 20:28:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it happened again... 20:29:02 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has joined company #1 20:29:06 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wyeah 20:29:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where? 20:29:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> place a sign saying !here 20:29:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> its kinda self-fixing 20:30:01 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i did that 20:30:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it crashes 20:30:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not every time 20:30:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i see though 20:30:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where at? 20:30:53 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> beer pickup 20:30:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> still at beer pickup 20:31:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but do they crash 20:31:11 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> build alot of trains there for goods and it will auto crash 20:31:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats bad 20:31:33 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> i consider it a work of art 20:31:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we need to make it work without crashing 20:31:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> exploding? 20:31:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i just saw a blockade which solved itself tho 20:31:52 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> overflow with automatic removal 20:31:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 20:31:57 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol 20:32:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> this whole tracks pretty much self solving 20:32:09 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> and V managed to build an automatic train killer 20:32:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cant be by anybody else than V 20:32:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 20:32:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true 20:32:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if ur listening on irc V... 20:35:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does puting nonstop on the order change? 20:35:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if a train travels a wrong route, it wont stop at wrong stations 20:35:40 <PublicServer> <Tray> if a trains happen to travvel through another station, it ignores that station 20:35:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok thats useful 20:36:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i might make that defauly 20:36:02 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t 20:36:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> *defauly 20:36:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> *default 20:36:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> spelling fail 20:36:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and when part of this network is rebuilt, a lot of trains end up in wrong ways 20:38:57 <PublicServer> <Vinnie> later ppl 20:39:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu 20:39:05 <PublicServer> *** Vinnie has left the game (leaving) 20:39:07 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> cu 20:39:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye 20:40:17 <PublicServer> <Tray> I think the network can now handle more trains 20:40:32 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> limit is about 1500 20:40:46 <PublicServer> <Tray> oh - already raised o: 20:41:00 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea planetmaker did it silently 20:41:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, some more trains for the oilgoods 20:42:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cool 20:42:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i 20:43:44 <planetmaker> sturmi, I actually did NOT rise it. It was already that high before I checked 20:43:46 *** Vinnie_ has quit IRC 20:43:58 <planetmaker> or at least when I checked 20:44:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> when was that? 20:44:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> ok, i thought you did 20:44:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i should learn to read :D 20:45:06 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey who changed my oil pipes to rails? 20:45:13 *** Jacko has joined #openttdcoop 20:45:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 20:45:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where? 20:45:31 <Jacko> hi again 20:45:35 <planetmaker> granted. I could nearly have said the same when applying irony ;-) But... :-P 20:45:39 <Jacko> !password 20:45:39 <PublicServer> Jacko: fussed 20:45:56 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. joined the game 20:45:57 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im back ppl 20:46:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> cool 20:46:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it would be cool if xyrus was on 20:46:34 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> meh one of the oil rigs died :( 20:46:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> maybe 20:46:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> we have 8 billion 20:46:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cant we get more anyway 20:46:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> near great slunford 20:46:48 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 20:47:06 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> we own the world! 20:47:16 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> jacko: money is irrelevant in this game 20:47:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha 20:47:19 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i know 20:47:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> god, imagine how many hobo's there are! 20:47:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> with one thousand and something trains 20:47:50 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the world would be run by hobos 20:47:57 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> haha 20:48:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHY U ALTER MY TRACK 20:48:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> so anything thats needs sorting thats not important enough for anyone but me to do? 20:48:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 20:48:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why? 20:49:07 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> because you connected it to the mainline instead of the sideline hub 20:49:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is that bad? 20:49:33 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yes 20:49:35 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> very 20:49:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why? 20:49:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> where is this? 20:49:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> almost worst thing you can do 20:49:59 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why? 20:50:14 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> becuase it can jam the mainline? 20:50:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Mainlines are like a highway 20:50:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because they arent up to speed? 20:51:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so i 20:51:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok so it goes to the sorting bit 20:51:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i guess the other lines fine like that because it comes off the centrall line 20:52:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> that doesnt make sense? 20:52:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no it does 20:52:21 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> enlighten me 20:52:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just didnt realise that at first 20:52:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh right not connecting to mainline i uderstand that 20:53:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> God i think my voice is crackiing 20:53:26 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> my throat is all rough 20:53:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what with a keyboard? 20:53:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ?????? 20:53:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no seriously though 20:53:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth? 20:53:58 *** Mark has joined #openttdcoop 20:53:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what 20:54:01 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hmm, could i connect a primary to coal drop MSH? 20:54:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> depends what primary it is 20:54:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Oil 20:54:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and probably not no 20:54:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> wth 20:54:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHAT R U DOING 20:54:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> me? nothing 20:54:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Well, next sideline is not much further away 20:54:58 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> turn off caps lock please 20:55:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the person building up to to my line] 20:55:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so your going to go through my stations? 20:55:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what r u doing! 20:55:40 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> EXACTLY 20:55:42 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> I'm connecting your station the right way - from the sideline hub instead of the mainline 20:55:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 20:55:59 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but its connected to the sideline hub 20:56:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> which staion? 20:56:12 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> see !here 20:56:14 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it comes of the mainline! 20:56:24 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats wrong with that? 20:56:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> sure why 20:56:29 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *not sure why 20:56:39 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it really shouldnt be there 20:56:41 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> holy crud 20:56:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt cause traffic jams 20:56:48 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 joined the game 20:56:51 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ha 20:56:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hi 20:56:56 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi ag 20:56:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it will do when there are many trains waiting 20:57:04 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi jam 20:57:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at !here it doesnt matter 20:57:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it does, no matter where 20:57:25 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> and when the station has 50 trains? 20:57:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it probably does 20:57:30 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> general building rules 20:57:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> really? 20:57:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> that something cant come off a mainline? 20:57:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yes 20:57:53 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it wouldnt bee too hard to simply walk it through to the right place 20:57:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> does it? 20:58:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> fine 20:58:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry i didnt know 20:58:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it would literally take about 30 seconds 20:58:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh its already done lol 20:58:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> there 20:59:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> done 20:59:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> srry i didn't know 21:00:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> at least it gives more money 21:00:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> how? 21:00:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> because it goes further to the livestock drop off point 21:00:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> and also why do we care about that? 21:00:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> dunno 21:00:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> no it travels round empty to load up again 21:00:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i was just pointing out 21:01:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> true 21:01:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol brain fail 21:01:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ohwell 21:01:23 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> XD 21:01:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oops 21:01:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> been looking at too many junctions? 21:01:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :D 21:01:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 21:01:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was a joke 21:02:00 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:02:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> too many juctions? is that possible :P 21:02:10 *** Chris_Booth has joined #openttdcoop 21:02:20 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> seriously first time i looked at some of these my head went mental 21:02:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> not for me 21:02:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just kind of ignore them 21:02:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 21:02:51 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> though my brain does throb a bit 21:02:51 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> XD 21:02:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> exactly 21:03:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> just looking at them 21:03:17 <PublicServer> <Chris Booth> hi 21:03:18 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth joined the game 21:03:21 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> hi 21:03:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> however the concept of building these is quite simple 21:03:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> hi 21:03:35 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> heya 21:03:35 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:03:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> its just time consuming :D 21:03:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i 21:04:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what line do coal trains go on? 21:04:15 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i have no idea 21:04:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> slh 21:04:19 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i think 21:04:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just stick them on somewhere and they should eventually end up in the right place 21:04:35 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are slh and the other one connected? 21:04:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> they all are 21:04:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bbh and slh 21:04:54 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everthing is connected together 21:04:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:05:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> thats the beauty of this design 21:05:09 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what does bbh and slh stand for? 21:05:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:05:13 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> everything interlocks and works together 21:05:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone can get anywhere 21:05:27 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> back-bone hub and umm 21:05:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hhmm 21:05:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea and sometimes it really inter LOCKS 21:05:38 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> Sideline hub 21:05:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:05:45 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe 21:05:54 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> MSH is main station hub 21:07:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im gonna go ahead and paste my name on something i helped with 21:07:12 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cuz everyone else has done it 21:07:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if you unfocus your eyes it looks like birds 21:07:27 <PublicServer> *** Chris Booth has left the game (leaving) 21:07:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> to me sometimes... 21:07:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> reminds me of blood vessels 21:07:37 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:07:47 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i find it quite pretty 21:07:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the straight bits 21:08:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> with all the trains 21:08:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> if you zoom out over BBH 4 to the right zoom it looks really cool 21:08:32 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well it works for most it just seems best here 21:08:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:08:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like snakes 21:08:46 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> yeah 21:08:53 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> good times XD 21:08:57 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe 21:09:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> are you alloud to use other things rather than trains? 21:09:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if i look too close at BBH04 i see jams 21:09:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i assume not 21:09:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think thats the priority working at full capacty :/ 21:09:51 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> a few 21:09:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> xxx 21:10:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yep. trains rom south have a hard time turning left 21:10:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 21:10:17 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i think thats deliberate 21:10:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 21:10:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but i am not mad enough to mess with this hub 21:10:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 21:10:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> why would that be 21:10:47 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what do you mean? 21:10:49 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if someone tried, couldnt they make all of these places really small? 21:10:59 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> the towns? 21:11:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> no the bbh and llh a the others 21:11:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> slh 21:11:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bbl 21:11:18 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i dont really think so 21:11:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> make them smaller? are you kidding? 21:11:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i mean make them for a smaller capacity 21:11:34 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> space is quite premium in those junctions 21:11:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for a smaller capacity 21:11:52 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> why would you make something for a smaller capacity? 21:11:58 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> most of them were smaller 21:12:04 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> budget version of a BBH 21:12:04 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if your line wasnt as big 21:12:10 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:12:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> budget version 21:12:31 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> think that would go down well with everyone else :D 21:12:36 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> *don't 21:12:38 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> LOL 21:12:44 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:12:59 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can anyone tell me where to build? 21:13:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> look at bbh02 21:13:03 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> in some aspects it could be bigger 21:13:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> it was built quite compact 21:13:13 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> yeah 21:13:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but now its a pain in the ass to expand it 21:13:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> though the edges could be a bit smaller 21:13:55 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> you could make loads of roundabouts inside each other 21:14:05 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> roundabouts are crap 21:14:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wiuldnt that be hopelessly inefficient? 21:14:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> depends 21:14:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they jam like nothing else 21:16:49 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if you made on that didnt jam so badly 21:16:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or if it was for a smaller line 21:17:06 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well there are 1000+ trains it needs to process 21:17:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> then it would fail scarily 21:17:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and f**k up the whole line 21:17:37 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> tbh if something could process 500 trains this well I'd have to be pretty good 21:17:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> roundabouts are broken by design, as they merge before split 21:18:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> anyone need help? 21:18:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> im unsure on what to do 21:18:50 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> gn 21:19:00 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> gn? 21:19:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 21:19:10 <PublicServer> <Maraxus> goodnight 21:19:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> gn 21:19:14 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> oh 21:19:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya 21:19:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> night 21:19:24 <PublicServer> *** Maraxus has left the game (leaving) 21:19:28 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 21:19:32 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> holy watafak... 2295 tons per month 21:19:39 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> gn maraxus 21:19:41 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> where? 21:19:51 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> planingead iron ore mine 21:19:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> how do u join pro zone? 21:20:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> wow 21:20:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> by being pro duh 21:20:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> by proving yourself as a very good builder 21:20:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:20:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol 21:20:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> and if you do it alot 21:20:35 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> are there competitions? 21:20:42 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> probably 21:20:54 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> dunno 21:21:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> only big ones 21:21:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i am not really experienced with coop 21:21:30 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> you're more experienced than me ;) 21:21:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i like the coal drop design 21:21:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> nice and simple but efficient 21:21:49 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> if he made more out lines 21:21:51 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> but afaik its more about what can be done 21:21:52 <Jacko> thats kinda the idea 21:22:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> so not competition, but cooperation 21:22:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> coal drop is just small :D 21:22:50 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> is there anywhere that needs help 21:22:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but you could make it massive 21:23:10 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if needed... 21:23:24 <Sylf> this isnt massive enough for you? 21:23:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> just look at grain drop 21:23:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> featuring automatic train killer 21:23:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sylf: coal drop isnt really massive :D 21:24:04 <Sylf> it can handle the volume 21:24:10 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> lol the automatic train killer 21:24:21 <Sylf> that's really the key 21:24:22 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> who called it that? 21:24:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but it is 21:24:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that was me and vinnie 21:24:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe nice 21:24:45 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> i made the signs tho 21:25:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i made the kids, dont try this at home 21:25:11 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> hehe 21:25:13 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but someone else made the or anywhere else thing 21:25:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> that was me again :p 21:25:28 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :D 21:25:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the overflow tracks a fail 21:25:44 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> what? 21:25:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> they work perfectly 21:25:53 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> its the train killer 21:26:11 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea sometimes, but thats a bug in the signalling 21:26:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> its so compact, trains dont brake fast enough 21:26:25 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> sure? 21:26:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nothing to do with braking 21:26:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> thats why theres nothing going over the overflow rails 21:26:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> as far as i remember OTTD allows instant braking for when a signal suddenly goes red 21:26:43 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes two trains get a green for the same track 21:26:57 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> but not now 21:27:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it doesnt 21:27:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> t 21:27:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> happens when PBS and normal signals are mixed 21:27:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> whats pbs 21:27:26 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ... 21:27:32 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> :rolles eyes: 21:27:34 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i just dont know that term 21:27:36 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there is no train on the top entry, so nothing can happen 21:27:42 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> path based signalling 21:27:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:27:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> PBS are the automatic signals 21:27:58 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> very funky tools 21:28:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like the entry and exit signals? 21:28:08 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> nope 21:28:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> the combo ones? 21:28:20 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> no, these are block signals 21:28:26 <Sylf> so you built a system that crashes trains? and send the nearby station ratings to 0%? 21:28:28 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> let me show you 21:28:50 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> Sylf: guess who has invented teh automatic train killer :p 21:28:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> V did 21:28:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> was it me? 21:29:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it was b 21:29:48 <Sylf> BAH 21:30:02 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> it was supercalifragalisticexpialadocious guy 21:30:16 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> XD 21:30:16 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> i frigging typed that! 21:30:23 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you are mad 21:30:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> lol 21:30:33 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> could someone get me a spellcheck on that 21:30:33 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or just V 21:30:35 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> 43000 21:30:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> something something something... 21:30:49 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> could someone put that into google translate? 21:30:56 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> just call him V as theres a few random numbers after lol 21:31:07 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> ohh its V453000 21:31:21 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> v453000 21:31:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> sometimes 543000 too :p 21:31:36 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> WHAT TO BUILD! 21:31:56 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> i wish there was diagonal bridges 21:32:12 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what to build TELL ME GUYS 21:33:19 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 21:33:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> just you and you and you and me 21:34:39 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> MOAR TRAINS! 21:34:47 <Jacko> why?? 21:34:51 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> what do you do with iron? 21:34:56 <Jacko> >_< 21:36:13 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> where does ir onre go? 21:36:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> to iron ore drop 21:36:25 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> oh right 21:36:40 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> well g2g it getting late and im tired now :/ 21:36:44 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 21:36:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cu 21:36:51 <PublicServer> <Jacko.> cya 21:37:02 <PublicServer> *** Jacko. has left the game (leaving) 21:37:07 *** Jacko has quit IRC 21:39:15 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> who here watches doctor who? 21:39:51 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not me 21:40:22 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 21:41:24 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 21:48:46 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why so complicated? 21:50:08 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> so? 21:50:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it looks good 21:50:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> lol 21:50:20 <Sylf> -_- 21:50:21 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> not really 21:50:27 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ... 21:50:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> pls??? 21:50:48 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> it might one day 21:50:52 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> for something 21:51:18 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you place industries? 21:51:25 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> why should I 21:51:29 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i? 21:51:45 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> am i aloud 21:51:46 <Sylf> you can prospect primaries 21:51:54 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ??? 21:52:05 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can you build 21:52:10 <Sylf> but there's no point in doing so now 21:52:11 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> producers? 21:52:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> prospect=tell teh game to place a primary somwhere 21:52:31 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> can i place a producer? 21:52:31 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> yea there are enough promaries 21:52:41 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> sylf 21:52:53 <Sylf> are 21:52:55 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> what do you mean by producer 21:53:03 <Sylf> has the train limit reached? 21:53:07 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> like a farm 21:53:16 <Sylf> if yes, don't bother 21:53:17 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> or well or forest 21:53:17 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you cant place them 21:53:23 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> aww 21:53:29 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you can only prospect them 21:53:45 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and teh train limit isnt reached 21:54:18 <Sylf> the game is more at the point of making improvements, not building new stations 21:54:39 <Sylf> so don't build industries 21:54:43 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:54:45 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> got it 21:54:45 <Sylf> or prospect one 21:54:59 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> there are enough unconnected primaries 21:55:01 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> you cant prospect 21:56:03 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye guys 21:56:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> cya 21:56:20 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> do u think the world will have restarted by tommorrow? 21:56:26 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nope 21:56:28 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> ok 21:56:30 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> good 21:56:32 <PublicServer> <GLAD0S> bye 21:56:46 <PublicServer> *** GLAD0S has left the game (leaving) 21:56:52 <GLAD0S> bye 21:56:54 <GLAD0S> XD 22:04:55 *** GLAD0S has quit IRC 22:09:44 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:11:53 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:16:34 <V453000> !password 22:16:34 <PublicServer> V453000: timber 22:17:04 <PublicServer> <V453000> hy 22:17:05 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 22:17:12 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> hey 22:17:33 <PublicServer> *** Sylf joined the game 22:17:53 <PublicServer> <V453000> im wondering ifthe "automatic killer" note on grain goods pickup is still relevant 22:18:27 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> well it killed trains 22:18:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> alright 22:18:47 <PublicServer> <V453000> well it is possible with the stupidity of PBS 22:18:49 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> a new level of overflow tactics :p 22:18:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> :D kill trains 22:18:57 <PublicServer> <V453000> ultimate overlow 22:19:03 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if there are too many, kill them 22:19:25 <PublicServer> <V453000> well if one train dies per 10 years, who cares :) 22:19:39 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> only the station rating 22:19:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> thats true 22:20:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> and the train drivers, but who cares about them :D 22:20:26 <PublicServer> <V453000> people again do not give a shit about goods 22:20:37 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has joined company #1 22:20:39 <PublicServer> <V453000> all of our goods pickups have overflows 22:20:45 <PublicServer> <V453000> yet all of them have a lot of cargo waiting 22:20:52 <PublicServer> <V453000> unacceptable :( 22:22:07 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> are you drunk enough for BBH04`? 22:22:30 <PublicServer> <V453000> dont think I want to do that now 22:29:28 <PublicServer> <Tray> wood & grain drop needs a third line 22:53:44 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> nice notes 22:54:32 <PublicServer> <Sylf> I had to get it out of my system 22:54:47 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> oh you were that... i thought V 22:55:09 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> you think glados will understand them? 22:55:29 <PublicServer> <Sylf> He needs to. 22:56:56 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> if he even comes back, as we wont start a new game tomorrow 23:03:48 <PublicServer> <Sturmi> fuuu 23:19:25 <PublicServer> *** Tray has left the game (connection lost) 23:19:25 *** Tray has quit IRC 23:26:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 23:27:07 <PublicServer> *** Sylf has left the game (connection lost) 23:27:07 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 23:34:29 <PublicServer> *** Sturmi has left the game (leaving)