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Log for #openttdcoop on 2nd December 2013:
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09:16:15  <GriffinOneTwo> !players
09:16:18  <PublicServer> GriffinOneTwo: There are currently no clients connected to the server
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09:57:24  <Taede> !password
09:57:24  <PublicServer> Taede: molted
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09:57:53  <V453000> meow
09:57:54  <V453000> .
09:57:58  <Taede> ..
09:58:06  <Taede> just checking the welcome message
09:58:16  <V453000> (: is there Moo?
09:58:31  <Taede> Moo?
09:58:59  <V453000> moo
09:59:05  <V453000> .
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10:37:42  <Taede> !save
10:37:42  <PublicServer> Saving game...
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10:44:17  <Jedhouse> aww
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11:26:51  <Benny> V453000:
11:30:12  <planetmaker> !playercount
11:30:12  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Number of players: 0 (0 spectators)
11:30:15  <planetmaker> !update
11:30:15  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Update starting...
11:30:31  <planetmaker> we totally should update :)
11:30:59  <Taede> pm, why not just swap servers
11:31:05  <Taede> new one can come pre-updated
11:31:31  <planetmaker> I don't know how to change DNS
11:31:50  <planetmaker> and ps.o.o points to this
11:32:23  <planetmaker> I'm not even sure I have access to where one can change it...
11:34:39  <Benny> oh, planetmaker
11:34:46  <Benny> would you be an angel and delete these http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Category:Articles_proposed_for_deletion
11:36:18  <PublicServer> Update done: OpenTTD r26140 (run !install)
11:38:50  <planetmaker> !install
11:38:55  <PublicServer> planetmaker: install done, please run !restart
11:38:59  <planetmaker> !restart
11:38:59  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
11:39:01  <PublicServer> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
11:39:02  <PublicServer> Thank you for playing r26044.
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11:39:20  <PublicServer> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - The Public Server (www.openttdcoop.org)'
11:39:20  *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG271 (r26140) | STAGE: Building | New players, use @quickstart and !help | www.openttdcoop.org"
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11:41:16  <planetmaker> Benny, sure the stationary should go?
11:41:38  <planetmaker> I see that it's empty, so no plan to fill it or is there a replacement?
11:42:18  <Benny> junctionary has a stations section
11:42:37  <Benny> so i assumed the stationary was obsolete/forgotten/abandoned/useless
11:42:49  <planetmaker> yeah, ok
11:43:12  <planetmaker> gone
11:43:22  <planetmaker> thanks for the hint to all those pages
11:45:27  <Benny> just trying to keep the wiki clean, thanks for deleting them
11:46:09  <planetmaker> that's the easier part :) finding the stuff and keeping in shape is the more difficult one. Thanks to you!
11:47:04  <Benny> my pleasure :)
11:51:33  <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Tutorial_Savegame <--- we totally should make a decent goal script as tutorial :)
11:52:21  <V453000> it would be more than enough if someone just made all of the 12038 tutorials in to one
11:53:08  <V453000> am not sure if gs would help anything
12:11:21  <Benny> Merged a bunch of separate signal articles to one http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Signals
12:12:01  <Benny> pretty messy still, will polish a bit
12:12:05  <Benny> any objections to the merge?
12:13:53  <V453000> nice as a concept but needs complete rewriting start to end
12:14:02  <V453000> the first part doesnt mention presignals at all
12:14:13  <planetmaker> I currently don't see it as a merge as it doesn't cover the pre-signals at all
12:14:14  <V453000> the second part doesnt really say what is the purpose of the 2way eol
12:14:33  <Benny> yep, theres a whole separate guide on presignals http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Guides:Presignals
12:14:38  <V453000> starting effort possibly not bad, but needs complete redoing
12:14:42  <Benny> indeed
12:14:43  <V453000> guides are total mess too
12:14:49  <V453000> I would appreciate if we get rid of them
12:15:19  <V453000> rather have everything in 5 big articles, than in 5 separate tutorials/guides/... which each consists of X pages
12:15:24  <planetmaker> Benny, yes, I saw that, it's suggested to be merged. I actually think it should not be merged. But rather prominently cross-referenced.
12:15:34  <V453000> and what pm said
12:15:50  <V453000> article about dragging signals and signal basics is really weird to be the same as 2way eol
12:15:50  <Benny> ah, that's a good idea
12:16:07  <V453000> link or BIG separator in the article, perhaps, but... yeah
12:16:09  <planetmaker> like the article you linked an introduction. And the pre-signal one showing the pre-signal concept(s)
12:16:19  <planetmaker> big separator is better separate page :)
12:16:36  <V453000> more or less :)
12:16:46  <planetmaker> 2-way eol certainly is not basic. especially as it requires changing settings to non-default
12:17:06  <planetmaker> 2-way red is by default (not anymore) considered eol
12:17:14  <V453000> I wouldnt define non-default as non-basic, but still
12:17:55  <planetmaker> thus it also needs explaining how to set that :)
12:18:03  <V453000> of course
12:18:17  <planetmaker> (or linking to how to set things via console in the first place as it's console-only setting iirc)
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12:18:32  <planetmaker> but anyway, Benny : please proceed
12:18:33  <V453000> well you still have the cfg (:
12:18:39  <GriffinOneTwo> !players
12:18:42  <PublicServer> GriffinOneTwo: There are currently no clients connected to the server
12:18:46  <planetmaker> V453000, that requires to exit openttd. so console is easier
12:18:56  <GriffinOneTwo> !password
12:18:56  <PublicServer> GriffinOneTwo: crotch
12:18:58  <planetmaker> one thing less you can make an error with
12:19:06  <V453000> I wouldnt say exiting is a problem, rather getting the stupid console syntax correctly is annoying
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12:19:27  <V453000> from people I talked to, vast majority solves everything possible through config, not console
12:19:34  <V453000> for reason I mentioned
12:19:46  <planetmaker> V453000, annoying?
12:19:50  <planetmaker> set variablename value
12:19:51  <V453000> all the "" things
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12:20:07  <Benny> dont think ill be able to write it from scratch, but ill see if i can do a couple of the things you mentioned
12:20:08  <V453000> something like set "variable = value"
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12:20:26  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_roadveh 10
12:20:30  <planetmaker> easy enough?
12:20:33  <planetmaker> !rcon set max_roadveh
12:20:34  <PublicServer> planetmaker: Current value for 'max_roadveh' is: '10' (min: 0, max: 5000)
12:20:35  <V453000> that works here, not in console
12:20:41  <V453000> why ask me not
12:20:43  <planetmaker> of course. it works exactly the same
12:20:49  <planetmaker> just without rcon
12:20:52  <Taede> rcon == remote console
12:21:06  <V453000> when I try that ingame it always asks for ""
12:21:18  <planetmaker> rcon password "set variable value"
12:21:29  <planetmaker> if you don#t use irc and want to set it on a remote server
12:21:34  <V453000> right
12:21:40  <planetmaker> but if you want to change it locally. Just:
12:21:45  <planetmaker> set variable value
12:21:52  <V453000> okay
12:21:53  <planetmaker> without rcon. without password
12:21:56  <planetmaker> without ""
12:23:47  <planetmaker> the rcon won't work on our server as it has no rcon password set. Thus you need to use irc
12:24:07  <V453000> I didnt even try that on our servers (:
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15:16:39  <happy_> ./join #openttdcoop.stable
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17:10:25  <Djanxy> !dl win64
17:10:25  <PublicServer> Djanxy: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r26140/openttd-trunk-r26140-windows-win64.zip
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18:02:58  <Jam35> !password
18:02:58  <PublicServer> Jam35: antics
18:05:25  <Jam35> !dl
18:05:25  <PublicServer> Jam35: !dl autostart|autottd|lin|lin64|osx|ottdau|source|win32|win64|win9x
18:05:26  <PublicServer> Jam35: http://www.openttd.org/en/download-trunk/r26140
18:09:36  <Jam35> !password
18:09:37  <PublicServer> Jam35: hernia
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18:12:55  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi
18:27:47  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> oh hi jam
18:27:53  <PublicServer> <Jam35> :)
18:28:03  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> what are you up to
18:28:29  <PublicServer> <Jam35> 3rd out of wood drop
18:28:52  <PublicServer> <Jam35> and station expand
18:29:10  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> yeah, that corner got busy fast
18:56:47  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> waiting bay a bit too short
18:56:53  <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes
18:56:53  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> for first split there
19:01:23  <PublicServer> <Jam35> not sure i like that :)
19:01:37  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> what?
19:01:43  <PublicServer> <Jam35> the merger
19:01:49  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> ah
19:02:57  <Mark> hi
19:03:07  <PublicServer> <Jam35> hay
19:03:08  <V453000> hy
19:03:22  <Mark> !dl win64
19:03:22  <PublicServer> Mark: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r26140/openttd-trunk-r26140-windows-win64.zip
19:04:12  <Mark> !password
19:04:12  <PublicServer> Mark: roding
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19:43:29  <PublicServer> <Jam35> afk for a bit
19:43:35  <PublicServer> <Jam35> will stay in co.
19:43:45  <PublicServer> <Jam35> 15mins or so...
19:43:56  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> alright
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20:06:58  <damalix> !svn
20:06:58  <PublicServer> damalix: svn update -r26140 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p allure
20:06:58  <PublicServer> damalix: svn checkout -r26140 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
20:07:00  <damalix> hello
20:07:08  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> hi damalix
20:08:32  <damalix> !svn
20:08:33  <PublicServer> damalix: svn update -r26140 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p allure
20:08:33  <PublicServer> damalix: svn checkout -r26140 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
20:08:47  <damalix> ow new version
20:09:56  <planetmaker> I didn't want to run a version which could be easily DOS'ed ;-)
20:10:13  <damalix> it's a safe decision
20:10:18  <damalix> wise
20:10:29  <planetmaker> I ponder to crash some pre-1.3.3 servers :P
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20:15:55  <damalix> !svn
20:15:55  <PublicServer> damalix: svn update -r26140 && make && ./bin/openttd -n ps.openttdcoop.org#1 -p grimes
20:15:55  <PublicServer> damalix: svn checkout -r26140 svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk openttdcoop && cd openttdcoop && ./configure && make
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20:32:44  <damalix> !tunnel 4 29
20:32:45  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 6 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 29.
20:33:07  <damalix> !tunnel 4 20
20:33:07  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 4 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 20.
20:33:32  <damalix> !tunnel 4 16
20:33:32  <PublicServer> damalix: You need 3 tunnels/bridges for trainlength 4 and gap 16.
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21:13:22  <Jam35> cyas
21:13:30  <PublicServer> <Damalix> cya jam
21:16:17  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> im off too, you in the middle of something ?
21:16:31  <PublicServer> <Damalix> need to re add 2 tracks
21:16:47  <PublicServer> <Damalix> done
21:16:51  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> ill stay in for a little while
21:16:54  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> alright
21:17:00  <PublicServer> <Djanxy> cya
21:17:06  <PublicServer> <Damalix> it's OK just 2 tracks I removed for test purpose
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21:17:14  <PublicServer> <Damalix> Cya
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