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00:05:26 *** skarn has joined #openttdcoop 00:10:57 *** skaby has quit IRC 00:31:58 *** uliko has quit IRC 00:32:33 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 00:49:58 *** Vinnie has quit IRC 00:51:19 *** skarn has quit IRC 00:54:27 *** geoffreybeene has joined #openttdcoop 00:55:11 <geoffreybeene> Howdy 00:55:14 <geoffreybeene> !players 00:55:17 <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: There are currently no clients connected to the server 00:55:19 <geoffreybeene> @log 01:16:10 <phatmatt> sup 01:35:02 *** skaby has joined #openttdcoop 01:44:05 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 01:59:01 <geoffreybeene> hey phatmatt 02:14:50 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 02:15:16 <Hazzard> !players 02:15:19 <PublicServer> Hazzard: There are currently no clients connected to the server 02:15:31 <geoffreybeene> Hey Hazz 02:16:01 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 02:42:03 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 02:43:52 *** Hazzard has quit IRC 02:56:51 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 05:19:39 *** nicferirc1 has joined #openttdcoop 05:24:22 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 05:28:13 *** nicferirc1 has quit IRC 05:40:50 *** Djanxy has joined #openttdcoop 05:59:58 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 06:00:00 <PublicServer> *** Djanxy joined the game 06:11:17 *** BiG_MiNi has joined #openttdcoop 06:11:18 <BiG_MiNi> :D 06:11:20 <BiG_MiNi> !date 06:11:20 <PublicServer> BiG_MiNi: 29 Jan 2368 06:12:45 <BiG_MiNi> :D 06:13:04 <Djanxy> havent really paid attention to the date 06:13:09 <Djanxy> not that it matters 06:13:10 <BiG_MiNi> yeah 06:13:15 <BiG_MiNi> how far along is everything? 06:13:40 <Djanxy> there's still expanding to do, before adding more trains 06:13:50 <Djanxy> and then more expanding i guess :D 06:14:47 <BiG_MiNi> I think we should add 40000000 trains 06:15:25 <Djanxy> that might be excessive 06:15:52 <BiG_MiNi> good point 06:15:56 <BiG_MiNi> maybe just 5000 more then 06:16:08 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> seeing as there is currently 864 ;) 06:20:40 <BiG_MiNi> def need more trains 06:21:44 <PublicServer> <Djanxy> agreed - just a couple of lines that still needs expansion before it's viable though i think 06:23:14 <PublicServer> *** Djanxy has left the game (leaving) 06:49:50 *** BiG_MiNi has left #openttdcoop 08:03:28 *** GriffinOneTwo has joined #openttdcoop 08:04:27 <GriffinOneTwo> !players 08:04:29 <PublicServer> GriffinOneTwo: There are currently no clients connected to the server 08:04:46 <V453000> !password 08:04:46 <PublicServer> V453000: strait 08:04:48 <V453000> "dl win64 08:04:51 <V453000> !dl win64 08:04:51 <PublicServer> V453000: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r26140/openttd-trunk-r26140-windows-win64.zip 08:06:44 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 08:06:44 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 08:07:52 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 08:41:33 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 08:54:23 *** Djanxy has quit IRC 09:42:57 *** Jam35 has joined #openttdcoop 09:42:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jam35 09:42:58 *** Ristovski has joined #openttdcoop 09:58:11 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop 10:01:19 *** valhallasw has joined #openttdcoop 10:44:04 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 11:39:31 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 12:49:03 *** GriffinOneTwo has quit IRC 13:39:30 *** nicferirc1 has joined #openttdcoop 13:39:31 *** nicferirc has quit IRC 14:04:26 *** Mark has quit IRC 14:27:05 *** skyem123 has joined #openttdcoop 14:29:27 *** nicferirc1 has quit IRC 14:32:32 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 14:32:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 14:46:06 <geoffreybeene> mornin 14:46:45 <V453000> heyo 14:57:25 <geoffreybeene> hey V453000 14:57:27 <geoffreybeene> how are ya 14:57:58 <V453000> hi there, im pretty great but busy as hell 14:58:11 <geoffreybeene> with non-ttd issues? 14:58:38 <V453000> yeah :) 14:58:55 <V453000> openttd is quite quickly being pushed out from my timetable 14:59:01 <geoffreybeene> thats a bummer! 14:59:34 <geoffreybeene> i need more people around as mentors as i railroad the equivalent of a bull's path thru a china shop 15:00:59 <V453000> :D 15:01:18 <V453000> just play and stress things with throughput to the max and you will learn quite quickly :) 15:01:27 <V453000> obviously reading our stuff helps a lot too 15:01:38 <geoffreybeene> yes the coop wiki is wonderful 15:02:20 <V453000> the blog articles, mainly the ABRs are also quite useful for learning 15:02:30 * V453000 is shameless 15:02:55 <geoffreybeene> ohh you're the myopenttd story guy! 15:03:00 <geoffreybeene> I just went through your whole post the other day 15:03:49 <geoffreybeene> so i am speaking with a prominent community figure, eh?? 15:03:52 <V453000> yes I am that guy :) 15:04:07 <V453000> you could say that I guess, yeah 15:04:25 <geoffreybeene> i liked the post...it's nice to see that ottd is a skill like anything else, and no one starts out as a network wizard 15:05:11 <V453000> exactly :) 15:07:20 <geoffreybeene> do you think the community is staying pretty constant? 15:07:39 <geoffreybeene> i'm hoping i don't learn stuff to actually feel ready to contribute on the server and then everyone's disappeared :) 15:07:54 *** skaby has quit IRC 15:12:00 <V453000> it is staying very solid 15:12:09 <V453000> :) 15:13:58 <V453000> one person can be a leader and motivate others more, but that isnt everything 15:19:52 <V453000> anyway, I got to run :) cya 15:19:56 <geoffreybeene> see ya! 15:19:57 <geoffreybeene> have a good one 15:20:15 <V453000> thanks, work stuff but should be okay :) 15:30:47 <planetmaker> geoffreybeene, the community has been around and kicking since ~2006. So I guess it is bound to stay :) 15:31:19 <planetmaker> people come and go. But the idea and community keeps going 15:31:49 <geoffreybeene> that's good to hear 15:32:02 <geoffreybeene> the IRC is usually pretty dead around the times I can get on, so I was wondering 15:33:18 <planetmaker> most active time is European evening hours 15:38:49 <geoffreybeene> is the welcome server the place i should start? 15:41:53 <planetmaker> it depends a bit 15:42:04 <planetmaker> but it's a good place to start, yes 15:42:14 <geoffreybeene> seems like there tends to be more people on it 15:42:19 <planetmaker> both, the 'PublicServer' as the Welcome server are 15:42:51 <planetmaker> the difference is that the welcome server allows everyone to build in his or her own company. While this server only has one company with a common network plan to follow for everyone 15:43:11 <geoffreybeene> !password 15:43:11 <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: strait 15:43:24 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 15:43:24 <PublicServer> *** Geoffreybeene joined the game 15:45:20 <PublicServer> *** Geoffreybeene has left the game (leaving) 15:46:07 <Taede> ello 15:46:14 <geoffreybeene> hello 15:46:54 *** retro|cz has joined #openttdcoop 15:53:02 *** skyem123 has quit IRC 16:11:23 <geoffreybeene> In the tutorial savegame, I see land "bought" around cities 16:11:27 <geoffreybeene> Does this keep them from expanding? 16:11:42 <geoffreybeene> Also how do you guys mitigate the local authority in the big games 16:12:34 <planetmaker> cities expand along roads. If they can't build roads... no growth. Easier to switch-off though by means of adv. settings 16:12:47 <planetmaker> local authorities love trees. Really do. 16:13:36 <geoffreybeene> Is there a radius around cities that the trees "count" for? 16:13:50 <geoffreybeene> Like, if I've already saturated the local area with trees how do I keep them happy 16:16:04 <Jam35> http://wiki.openttd.org/Game_mechanics#Local_authority_rating 16:16:15 <Jam35> there is some info :) 16:16:46 <geoffreybeene> Cool, ty 16:17:07 <geoffreybeene> I was looking at some of your stuff on the pub server Jam 16:17:25 <geoffreybeene> A couple days ago you had what looked like a big jam near the south part 16:17:31 <geoffreybeene> Seemed cleared up today, that was cool 16:17:44 *** Progman has quit IRC 16:18:05 <geoffreybeene> errr... bottom left... not sure which way the "compass" points 16:18:21 <planetmaker> North is up 16:18:25 <planetmaker> nothing fancy 16:18:44 <geoffreybeene> Oh ok, wasn't sure as everything's diagonal 16:18:46 <planetmaker> people who draw an oblique compass simply fail at directions ;) 16:19:35 <Jam35> some people call north top-left and east top-right :) 16:19:49 <planetmaker> Jam35, but there's no good reason whatsoever to do so 16:19:56 <Jam35> that is mostly accepted but there is always confusion 16:19:59 <Jam35> true 16:20:02 <planetmaker> it's confusing and has no basis anywhere in the game 16:20:18 <planetmaker> mostly accepted is North is straight up 16:21:05 <planetmaker> though I know that some people around coop want to press a different idea, I never understood why 16:21:30 <Jam35> idk (or care that much ) :) 16:21:44 <planetmaker> the game itself is clear about directions: normal way as on every map 16:21:51 <geoffreybeene> This tutorial game is helpful 16:22:28 <geoffreybeene> I can see the appeal to call Top-left North, though...because to build a true north line if North is up requires a wiggly diagonal movement upwards 16:23:57 <planetmaker> quite not 16:24:01 *** ODM has quit IRC 16:24:14 <planetmaker> you can build rail any of the 4 major and also 4 minor directions easily 16:24:46 <geoffreybeene> Oh jeez you're right 16:24:49 <geoffreybeene> what am I talkin about 16:24:58 * geoffreybeene needs to go make coffee 16:47:17 *** skaby has joined #openttdcoop 17:03:30 * geoffreybeene has some coffee 17:11:33 *** Hazzard has joined #openttdcoop 17:11:43 <geoffreybeene> HEY HAZZ 17:11:45 <geoffreybeene> caps sorry 17:11:47 <Hazzard> Hey hey 17:11:49 <Hazzard> !players 17:11:52 <PublicServer> Hazzard: There are currently no clients connected to the server 17:11:53 *** skaby has quit IRC 17:13:02 <Hazzard> !password 17:13:02 <PublicServer> Hazzard: strait 17:13:13 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:13:13 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 17:13:21 *** happy_ has joined #openttdcoop 17:19:54 <Hazzard> Hows everything going? 17:20:17 <geoffreybeene> pretty good, trying to learn about priorities and load balancers 17:20:48 <happy_> good thanks how ar u hazzard 17:20:55 <Hazzard> good :) 17:21:03 <Hazzard> !help 17:21:03 <PublicServer> Hazzard: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/IRC_Commands 17:21:25 <Hazzard> !wiki 17:21:26 <PublicServer> Hazzard: http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/Main_Page 17:23:00 <happy_> !password 17:23:00 <PublicServer> happy_: strait 17:23:29 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 17:23:31 <PublicServer> *** happy tran {} sport joined the game 17:27:47 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> 'lo 17:35:16 *** valhalla1w has joined #openttdcoop 17:37:04 *** valhallasw has quit IRC 17:47:16 <PublicServer> <happy tran sport> hi 17:49:59 *** skaby has joined #openttdcoop 17:59:24 *** skarn has joined #openttdcoop 18:01:20 *** skarn has quit IRC 18:06:29 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Anyone want to join? 18:15:39 <Jam35> 1 sec 18:16:58 <Jam35> !password 18:16:59 <PublicServer> Jam35: dainty 18:17:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:17:11 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 joined the game 18:17:15 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has joined company #1 18:17:15 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:17:32 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi 18:18:14 <PublicServer> <Jam35> no need to speak in team channel :) 18:18:26 <PublicServer> <Jam35> it is not logged in irc 18:19:36 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> there 18:19:54 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok :) 18:20:12 <PublicServer> <Jam35> you may be talking and no-one would hear 18:53:39 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ? 18:53:43 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> oh 18:54:35 <Anson> hallo... just read back in the log... some people were talking about directions 18:55:24 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> ? 18:55:37 <Anson> on the ps server directions are mostly replaced by hub- and sign-names 18:56:57 <Anson> instead " build from west to north" it is rather "build from slh04 to bbh02" 18:58:12 <Anson> other games like AOE have north in the top right corner 18:59:14 <Anson> but ottd has nothing official besides the names of building shortcut keys 18:59:39 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Well, depending on which side of a town you place a station... 18:59:49 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I think by that it's the top right edge 19:01:03 <Anson> when you build railroads, 1 is build_ns. 2 is build_x. 3 is build_ew. 4 is build_y 19:02:35 <Anson> for roads 1 and 2 are build_x and build_y 19:03:26 <Anson> i didn't see compass directions anywhere else 19:33:24 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop 19:36:08 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> :| 19:37:54 <PublicServer> <Jam35> what's up? 19:38:16 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> i crashed a train 19:38:22 <PublicServer> <Jam35> :p 19:59:11 <PublicServer> *** tneo joined the game 19:59:15 <PublicServer> <tneo> hi 19:59:25 <PublicServer> <Jam35> hi 20:01:51 <PublicServer> *** tneo has left the game (leaving) 20:03:59 *** Steven has joined #openttdcoop 20:13:09 <geoffreybeene> !PASSWORD 20:13:13 <geoffreybeene> !password 20:13:13 <PublicServer> geoffreybeene: lunacy 20:13:20 <geoffreybeene> indeed 20:13:23 <PublicServer> *** Geoffreybeene joined the game 20:13:43 <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes 20:14:17 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ok wtf is going on !here? 20:14:21 <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> so where should i be watching 20:14:37 <PublicServer> <Jam35> see sign list 20:18:59 <PublicServer> <Jam35> right watch carefully 20:19:09 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> hmm? 20:19:49 <PublicServer> <Jam35> there 20:19:55 <PublicServer> <Jam35> red signal 20:20:09 <PublicServer> <Jam35> train heads towards it when there are green choices 20:20:27 <PublicServer> <Jam35> the routes are fine as fas as i can tell 20:20:29 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> huh 20:20:35 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> interesting 20:21:01 *** retro|cz has quit IRC 20:21:13 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> We could force the trains to go the wrong way and watch where they go 20:21:20 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> "wrong" 20:21:30 <PublicServer> <Jam35> i've checked 20:21:44 <PublicServer> <Jam35> trains use those lines fine from other routes 20:22:10 <PublicServer> <Jam35> as you can see if you look slightly north 20:23:00 <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> looks like its working now 20:23:24 <PublicServer> <Jam35> yes because the two-way signals force them the other way regardless 20:24:06 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> I don't quite understand what the path cost of 2way signals is but it seems to be working now 20:24:17 <Jam35> see: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Two-way_end_of_line 20:24:20 <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> would it be possible to make the middle red line take on more traffic at this junction? 20:24:28 <PublicServer> <Geoffreybeene> seems like the two outside lines are very busy and middle is not 20:25:30 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Ok 20:25:36 *** ODM has joined #openttdcoop 20:25:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ODM 20:26:28 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> The trains do seem to like the left track the best 20:27:18 <PublicServer> *** happy tran sport has left the game (connection lost) 20:27:34 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Doesn't the pathfinder try to avoid two way signals in general? 20:28:00 <PublicServer> *** Geoffreybeene has left the game (leaving) 20:28:45 <PublicServer> <Jam35> if train sees red 2 way: go anywhere else 20:28:51 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Yeah 20:30:41 <PublicServer> <Jam35> ah missed connection 20:31:19 <PublicServer> <Jam35> to here 20:38:56 <Jam35> Geoffreybeene: yes that line had a missing connection, hence trains tried to avoid 20:50:49 *** Steven has quit IRC 20:53:38 *** retro|cz has joined #openttdcoop 21:06:59 *** dr_gonzo_ has joined #openttdcoop 21:17:36 <V453000> !password 21:17:36 <PublicServer> V453000: whores 21:17:41 <V453000> LOL 21:17:56 <V453000> this thing means business today 21:18:07 <PublicServer> <V453000> yooo 21:18:07 <PublicServer> *** V453000 joined the game 21:18:19 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Whats up 21:18:26 <Hazzard> XD 21:18:29 <PublicServer> <V453000> shits on fire yo 21:19:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> sooo how are thepm meow (: 21:19:27 <PublicServer> <V453000> found anything interesting on the stat changing mechanic yet? 21:19:43 <PublicServer> <V453000> I thought it would be nice if the stats changed more 21:19:49 <PublicServer> <V453000> like at least 50 or even more percent 21:19:55 <PublicServer> <V453000> so it would be even more noticeable 21:20:02 <PublicServer> <V453000> but e.g. change of speed by 100% is fucking insane 21:20:36 <Taede> could make more traintypes which vary only one stat, but different amounts depending on colour 21:20:58 <Taede> eg, red = speed +30%, blue +50 yellow +75% etc 21:21:47 <V453000> wouldnt yellow automatically be best in such case? 21:22:03 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Wait, you're telling me the colors actually _do something_? 21:22:17 <Taede> true 21:22:22 <PublicServer> <V453000> the MEOW class of trains changes stats with them 21:22:24 <PublicServer> <V453000> see the purchase menu 21:23:10 <PublicServer> <Hazzard> Are we using meows? 21:23:16 <PublicServer> <V453000> yes? 21:23:18 *** retro|cz has quit IRC 21:23:34 <PublicServer> <V453000> Vehicle class: MEOW 21:23:37 <PublicServer> <V453000> says it :P 21:25:42 *** Steven has joined #openttdcoop 21:25:52 <Steven> !password 21:25:52 <PublicServer> Steven: sinewy 21:26:29 <PublicServer> *** Steven joined the game 21:36:19 <PublicServer> *** V453000 has left the game (leaving) 21:40:08 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 21:44:00 <PublicServer> *** Steven has left the game (leaving) 21:44:00 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:45:06 *** nicferirc has joined #openttdcoop 21:46:08 <nicferirc> !playercount 21:46:08 <PublicServer> nicferirc: Number of players: 2 (0 spectators) 21:46:47 <Hazzard> !password 21:46:48 <PublicServer> Hazzard: muffin 21:47:11 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 21:47:12 <PublicServer> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 21:47:14 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 21:47:19 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has joined spectators 21:47:19 <PublicServer> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:47:47 <PublicServer> *** Jam35 has left the game (leaving) 21:48:31 <Jam35> bb, on stable atm 21:51:18 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has left the game (leaving) 21:59:19 *** dr_gonzo_ has quit IRC 22:30:00 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:32:13 *** Steven has quit IRC 23:04:16 *** skaby has quit IRC 23:36:47 <Hazzard> !password 23:36:47 <PublicServer> Hazzard: muffin 23:36:56 <PublicServer> *** Game still paused (number of players) 23:36:59 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard joined the game 23:37:00 <PublicServer> *** Hazzard has joined spectators 23:39:21 *** Jam35 has quit IRC 23:50:08 *** Ristovski has quit IRC 23:57:50 *** Progman has quit IRC