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Log for #openttdcoop on 21st October 2015:
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09:16:05  <happpy> !players
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10:26:41  <Maraxus> !pw
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11:39:46  <cha0tics_> !pw
11:39:46  <coopserver> cha0tics_: equals
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11:40:59  <happpy> hi
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12:27:58  <Sylf> cha0tics should have a copy of my plan
12:28:05  <Sylf> ask him for details
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16:03:35  <Jam35> !pw
16:03:35  <coopserver> Jam35: mirror
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16:15:39  <Jam35> !pw
16:15:39  <coopserver> Jam35: liable
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16:49:31  <Arveen> !pw
16:49:31  <coopserver> Arveen: unless
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16:59:48  <Maraxus> !pw
16:59:48  <coopserver> Maraxus: unlink
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17:11:49  <dwarf> !pw
17:11:49  <coopserver> dwarf: redraw
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17:24:58  <happpy> !players
17:24:58  <coopserver> happpy: There are currently 0 players and 3 spectators, making a total of 3 clients connected
17:25:03  <happpy> hi
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17:59:12  <cha0tics_> !pw
17:59:12  <coopserver> cha0tics_: listed
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18:33:37  <Mazur> !pw
18:33:37  <coopserver> Mazur: needed
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18:34:29  <Mazur> !pw
18:34:29  <coopserver> Mazur: needed
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19:24:47  <coopserver> <Jam35> Maraxus around?
19:24:54  <Maraxus> yes
19:25:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> able to play now?
19:25:29  <coopserver> <Jam35> or want to even?
19:25:39  <Maraxus> both
19:25:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> I don't think there will be 3 opposing votes
19:26:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> ok lets declare it :)
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19:27:38  <Jam35> @stage Building
19:27:38  *** Webster changes topic to "Cooperative OpenTTD | PSG305 (r27387) | STAGE: Building | New players, use @quickstart and !help | www.openttdcoop.org | TS3: voice.openttdcoop.org"
19:28:35  <Mazur> !pw
19:28:35  <coopserver> Mazur: erodes
19:29:00  <Mazur> !pw
19:29:00  <coopserver> Mazur: others
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19:29:57  <Mazur> !pw
19:29:57  <coopserver> Mazur: gstext
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19:36:17  <coopserver> <Mazur> H, got an idea, shall I number the MSH's after the industry number they connecct?
19:36:27  <coopserver> <Jam35> sure
19:36:40  <happpy> hi
19:36:48  <happpy> how thing's
19:37:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> hi
19:38:53  <coopserver> <Mazur> On second thoughts, bad idea, some MSHs connect three main stations together.
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19:41:09  <lol> !pw
19:41:09  <coopserver> lol: plenty
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19:41:41  <coopserver> <Jam35> what do you think of top left side?
19:41:42  <coopserver> <lol> are we building?
19:41:56  <coopserver> <Mazur> You skipped naming a MSH in hte left corner, I added it and renumbered the MSHs.
19:42:03  <coopserver> <Jam35> I don't know which way to do it
19:42:12  <happpy> how thing's lol
19:42:20  <coopserver> <lol> great
19:42:23  <coopserver> <lol> what is cl?
19:42:32  <coopserver> <lol> and how big will the ML be?
19:42:35  <coopserver> <lol> LL RR?
19:42:43  <coopserver> <Mazur> Around MSH 04, you mean?
19:42:51  <coopserver> <lol> for the whole network
19:43:01  <coopserver> <Jam35> that whole side needs spacing out
19:43:15  <coopserver> <Jam35> 5 stations 6 hubs
19:43:21  <coopserver> <Mazur> Talking to Lam35, lol.
19:43:29  <coopserver> <lol> lol
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19:44:49  <coopserver> <Jam35> there that works I think
19:45:06  <coopserver> <lol> we are missing 2x
19:45:45  <coopserver> <Mazur> I'd split up MSH 04 to either side of the hill.
19:46:05  <cha0tics> !pw
19:46:05  <coopserver> <lol> we can change 1c and 2x
19:46:06  <coopserver> cha0tics: pieces
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19:46:17  <coopserver> <lol> 1c isn't big because it is building materials chain
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19:46:28  <coopserver> <Mazur> tics.
19:46:31  <coopserver> <cha0tics> hi
19:47:10  <coopserver> <lol> do you have in the screenshot what layout of ml to use cha0tics?
19:47:15  <coopserver> <Mazur> Because on top of that hill, you'll never get a MSH big enough for all those stations.
19:47:44  <coopserver> <lol> it is only 3c isn't it?
19:47:53  <coopserver> <cha0tics> no, I added all info that was there in Sylf's plan
19:48:01  <coopserver> <Mazur> 2b, 3x...
19:48:09  <coopserver> <lol> ah i see
19:48:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> my signs are not set in stone, a bit of movement is builders choice ofc :)
19:48:29  <coopserver> <lol> 3x is already at Kreuzheim
19:48:41  <coopserver> <lol> but we are missing 2x
19:48:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> haven't finished yet!
19:49:05  <coopserver> <Mazur> I thoiughjt that was MSH 05.
19:49:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> I am trying to get good spacing
19:49:19  <coopserver> <lol> suprise us ;)
19:49:23  <coopserver> <cha0tics> 05 looks like 2x yes
19:50:03  <coopserver> <lol> no, we need an hub between bbh 02 and msh 05 for 2x according to plan
19:50:20  <coopserver> <cha0tics> so msh05 is 3x
19:50:32  <coopserver> <lol> there is an sign that states it
19:50:35  <coopserver> <Mazur> I'd go to2b from the lowland at Rosfort, and at 3thigy from lowland south of MSH 04 mark.
19:51:38  <coopserver> <lol> i would flip 2x and 1c
19:51:59  <coopserver> <lol> 1c you can fit nera nestheim
19:52:23  <coopserver> <cha0tics> is msh06 for both 3aa and 1c?
19:52:37  <coopserver> <lol> it is kind of a split i think
19:52:49  <coopserver> <lol> because trains from 3aa don't need to go to 1c
19:53:06  <coopserver> <cha0tics> yeah that's what I mean
19:53:25  <coopserver> <lol> can we start building jam?
19:53:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> sure
19:53:42  <coopserver> <lol> what cl?
19:53:52  <coopserver> <Jam35> and if you need more space or want to move something ok
19:54:03  <coopserver> <lol> what do you think of 2x?
19:54:11  <coopserver> <lol> fit it in there?
19:54:39  <coopserver> <lol> you know it is the food factory?
19:55:35  <coopserver> <Jam35> move it to Bielemund or whatever
19:55:39  <coopserver> <cha0tics> do we go into a station with LL or LLL?
19:55:57  <coopserver> <Jam35> all I am considering is space between hubs
19:56:05  <coopserver> <lol> do we do ML with LL _RR or LLL_RRR?
19:56:06  <coopserver> <Jam35> and between hubs and stations
19:56:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> start LLRR
19:56:17  <coopserver> <lol> what is cl?
19:56:30  <coopserver> <Jam35> idk
19:56:38  <coopserver> <cha0tics> CL would be 2 if my math is right
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19:56:42  <coopserver> <Jam35> 2 I think
19:56:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> yes
19:56:51  <coopserver> <lol> build with purr?
19:56:58  <coopserver> <Jam35> whatever you like
19:57:07  <coopserver> <lol> wet railxD
19:57:12  <coopserver> <cha0tics> lol
19:57:18  <coopserver> <Jam35> someone will convert if they hate it :)
19:57:19  <coopserver> <cha0tics> magnetic water?
19:57:21  <Mazur> @cl
19:57:21  <Webster> cl: Curve Length, mostly used to describe how big a curve must be to let pass trains with a certain TL at full speed, see also: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Max_Curve_Speed
19:57:32  <Mazur> !cl
19:57:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> we could start LLLRRR
19:57:44  <coopserver> <Jam35> no sidelines
19:57:51  <coopserver> <Jam35> LLRR is pretty standard
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19:58:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> but this is kind of different
19:58:12  <coopserver> <Jam35> lets vote :)
19:58:17  <coopserver> <Jam35> I say LLLRRR
19:58:19  <coopserver> <lol> i sa
19:58:22  <coopserver> <cha0tics> me too
19:58:30  <coopserver> <lol> i saw some other yetigames that weren't that big
19:59:36  <lol> @gap 3
19:59:37  <Webster> lol: For Trainlength of 3: <= 9 needs 2, 10 - 14 needs 3, 15 - 19 needs 4.
19:59:38  <coopserver> <cha0tics> who is at msh09?
19:59:40  <coopserver> <Mazur> I say, ask Sylf.
19:59:47  <coopserver> <lol> it is me
19:59:54  <coopserver> <Maraxus> CL is 3
19:59:58  <coopserver> <cha0tics> ok, I'm next to you at 2a
20:00:09  <coopserver> <lol> you are builing the station?
20:00:16  <coopserver> <lol> 3?
20:00:33  <coopserver> <cha0tics> wanted to build 2a station
20:00:37  <coopserver> <Mazur> So, 2 or 3 lines?
20:01:52  <coopserver> <cha0tics> lol, blue is entry, red exit
20:02:13  <coopserver> <lol> understood
20:03:02  <coopserver> <Mazur> LLRR or LLLRRR?
20:03:50  <coopserver> <Mazur> Ok, no lines, then.
20:04:08  <coopserver> <Jam35> I'm looking at 4X
20:04:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> we will want to grow the town there
20:04:37  <coopserver> <Jam35> but the ML goes right through the town
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20:05:36  <coopserver> <Jam35> Mazur assuming you are building a hub or station ?
20:05:46  <coopserver> <Jam35> and not laying the entire ML? :)
20:05:50  <coopserver> <Jam35> 3 lines
20:05:54  <coopserver> <Mazur> Not yet, was planning to.
20:06:09  <coopserver> <Mazur> That is what I needed to hear.
20:06:13  <coopserver> <Jam35>  if it is too much we can still keep it til later
20:15:22  <coopserver> <lol> what is the size of the prio?
20:15:52  <coopserver> <Mazur> 2 train lengths usually is a good start.
20:16:11  <coopserver> <lol> i think some people know what it has to be for get heavy
20:16:29  <coopserver> <Mazur> <---- does not.
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20:28:44  <coopserver> <lol> does it need to be expandable?
20:29:54  <Mazur> !pw
20:29:54  <coopserver> Mazur: pieces
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20:30:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> ideally yes
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20:30:08  <coopserver> <lol> cha0tics do you keep in mind the stationname has to be near the industry you are serving
20:30:25  <coopserver> <lol> because in this way you will serve the oilwells
20:30:35  <coopserver> <lol> mine isn't expandable
20:31:10  <cha0tics> there is no 2a at my place here, so we will ave to add it later
20:31:22  <coopserver> <lol> just set a place already
20:31:27  <coopserver> <lol> and stationname near it
20:31:33  <coopserver> <Mazur> Aren;t we njuilding in maglev tracks?
20:31:43  <coopserver> <lol> because you don't wanna check every station afterwards
20:32:22  <coopserver> <cha0tics> caan we change industry build mode
20:33:34  <coopserver> <Mazur> Yes.
20:34:01  <coopserver> <cha0tics> do it please, I don't have !rcon
20:34:34  <Jam35> !rcon set raw_industry_construction 1
20:34:36  <Jam35> done
20:34:52  <Mazur> Wass looking for hte variable name.
20:35:27  <cha0tics> can we kill other industries?
20:35:34  <coopserver> <Jam35> nope
20:35:56  <coopserver> <cha0tics> fu, then I'm serving two places with my dude drop
20:36:46  <coopserver> <lol> i think it looks to the upper corner
20:36:54  <coopserver> <lol> the same tile you click at if you fund one
20:37:18  <Maraxus> !rcon set station_spread 64
20:43:23  <coopserver> <cha0tics> that should work now
20:43:33  <coopserver> <lol> nice
20:43:52  <coopserver> <cha0tics> had to move the station by one tile
20:47:13  <coopserver> <lol> i think i'm the fastest hubbuilder
20:47:18  <coopserver> <lol> i finished one already
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20:47:49  <coopserver> <Mazur> Good, then you can take over BBH 01,. ass it's feeding time and I have lots of otherr things to do, today.
20:48:00  <coopserver> <lol> i think
20:48:02  <coopserver> <lol> i leavce
20:48:07  <coopserver> <lol> that is why i builded fast
20:49:57  <coopserver> <Jam35> where are the choices? :)
20:50:04  <coopserver> <lol> in my hub?
20:50:10  <coopserver> <Jam35> mhm
20:50:43  <coopserver> <Jam35> 2 out of 3 ok
20:50:59  <coopserver> <lol> it won't be really crowded i think
20:51:11  <coopserver> <Jam35> and when it is? :P
20:51:34  <coopserver> <lol> just find some really clever person to expand it
20:51:43  <coopserver> <lol> because that migth give some troubles
20:52:31  <coopserver> <cha0tics> grabbing a coffee
20:52:36  <coopserver> <cha0tics> brb
20:52:58  <coopserver> <lol> who coloured my rail red?
20:53:24  <coopserver> <Jam35> me
20:53:29  <coopserver> <Jam35> CL
20:53:34  <coopserver> <lol> no
20:53:39  <coopserver> <lol> i ran an train over it
20:54:53  <coopserver> <Jam35> all of it or just the s bends?
20:55:02  <coopserver> <lol> s bends
20:55:15  <coopserver> <lol> the red route
20:55:25  <coopserver> <lol> and only that one
20:55:26  <coopserver> <Jam35> and is it ok
20:56:38  <coopserver> <Jam35> k
20:56:50  <coopserver> <lol> the other i changed
20:56:55  <coopserver> <lol> i don't tested them
20:57:01  <coopserver> <lol> didn't
20:57:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> no probs
20:57:21  <coopserver> <Jam35> I am never sure on those anyway
20:57:31  <coopserver> <cha0tics> ha, no red tracks at my place though ;)
20:57:47  <coopserver> <cha0tics> or Jam didn't chack it yet
20:57:57  <coopserver> <cha0tics> rofl
20:58:14  <coopserver> <Jam35> rebuild :D
20:58:21  <coopserver> <cha0tics> noooooo
20:59:46  <coopserver> <lol> it is really hard to tell yeah
21:00:00  <coopserver> <Mazur> I doubt he'll red track anything at my HUB, he'll go total vortex perspective at first glance.
21:00:14  <coopserver> <lol> BBH 01?
21:00:19  <coopserver> <Mazur> Yep/
21:00:28  <coopserver> <lol> What means WIP?
21:00:36  <coopserver> <Mazur> Work in progress.
21:01:26  <coopserver> <lol> why do you merge all to one rail cha0tics
21:01:32  <coopserver> <lol> and make 3 of it again?
21:01:57  <coopserver> <cha0tics> just for the drop as it should not get that much traffic
21:02:12  <coopserver> <Mazur> Ok, tracks there, I think.  Now I leave for dinner and TV, no idea if I'll be back today.
21:02:25  <coopserver> <cha0tics> enjoy
21:02:30  <coopserver> <cha0tics> and maybe laters
21:03:10  <coopserver> <Mazur> I'll stay just long enough to smoke a couple and answer Jam's incisive criticism.
21:03:30  <cha0tics> inquisitive I'd say
21:04:31  <coopserver> <lol> i leave too
21:05:06  <coopserver> <lol> isn't your gap at the tunnels too long mazur?
21:05:25  <coopserver> <lol> though you already splitt of some trains
21:05:51  <coopserver> <Mazur> They are 9.
21:06:03  <coopserver> <lol> you have to count till the entrysignal
21:06:10  <coopserver> <lol> which makes them 12
21:06:16  <coopserver> <lol> or 11
21:06:20  <coopserver> <Mazur> 11
21:06:40  <coopserver> <Mazur> But hyou forget there are signals before and afterr the tunnels, too.
21:06:46  <coopserver> <Mazur> 9
21:07:36  <coopserver> <lol> we drive at the right hand side
21:07:48  <coopserver> <Mazur> I do, too.
21:08:01  <coopserver> <Mazur> Connected up wrong.
21:08:32  <coopserver> <lol> i don't get it
21:09:25  <coopserver> <Mazur> I mixed up the lines.
21:10:08  <coopserver> <lol> bye
21:10:25  <coopserver> <Jam35> bb
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21:15:05  <coopserver> <cha0tics> could someone check my station idea?
21:15:12  <coopserver> <cha0tics> would that work?
21:17:45  <coopserver> <Mazur> Food time, now.
21:17:55  <coopserver> <Mazur> Bibi.
21:18:00  <coopserver> <Jam35> bbb
21:18:05  <coopserver> <cha0tics> bb
21:18:40  <coopserver> <Mazur> Fixed my tracks, btw.
21:19:13  <coopserver> <Mazur> Feel free to signal, won;t be offended.
21:19:22  <coopserver> <Jam35> might be okay cha0tics
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21:31:45  <dwarf> !pw
21:31:45  <coopserver> dwarf: supply
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21:32:16  <coopserver> <cha0tics> hi d
21:32:24  <coopserver> <dwarf> hi
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21:54:07  <coopserver> <Jam35> gtg
21:54:09  <coopserver> <Jam35> bn
21:54:14  <coopserver> <cha0tics> cu
21:54:15  <coopserver> <Jam35> gn even :)
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22:02:16  <coopserver> <Maraxus> ttg - gn
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23:18:11  <dwarf> !pw
23:18:11  <coopserver> dwarf: studio
23:18:33  <dwarf> !pw
23:18:33  <coopserver> dwarf: denied
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23:18:58  <coopserver> <cha0tics> wb
23:19:02  <coopserver> <dwarf> hi
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