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00:03:08 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 00:12:01 *** Fuco has quit IRC 00:31:56 *** OwenS has quit IRC 00:53:20 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 01:08:35 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop.dev 01:08:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v fonsinchen 01:08:41 <KenjiE20> hehe fonsinchen 01:08:45 <fonsinchen> hi 01:09:14 <fonsinchen> so, I couldn't upload the save via web. I uploaded it with ssh now 01:09:21 <KenjiE20> hm 01:09:23 <fonsinchen> to save/uploads/start.sav 01:09:39 <fonsinchen> how do we proceed? 01:09:49 <KenjiE20> oh I see 01:09:53 <KenjiE20> it borks 01:09:55 <KenjiE20> nvm 01:10:22 <KenjiE20> ah, perms 01:11:13 <fonsinchen> How do I start the game now? 01:11:19 <KenjiE20> good, fixed, for next time :) 01:11:43 <KenjiE20> see screen 01:11:54 <fonsinchen> OK, nice 01:12:12 <KenjiE20> oops 01:12:38 <KenjiE20> chug chug 01:12:51 <fonsinchen> oh, doesn't it pause while no one is connected? 01:12:59 <KenjiE20> it does/should 01:13:06 <fonsinchen> what's the address, btw? 01:13:07 <KenjiE20> it's still starting 01:13:33 <KenjiE20> or broken 01:13:40 <KenjiE20> maybe broken 01:14:00 <fonsinchen> we could connect and see what it's doing 01:14:05 <KenjiE20> are those big strings from dist? 01:14:17 <KenjiE20> it should be on the advertise list 01:15:01 <fonsinchen> I think it's the title string in the menu window 01:15:11 <KenjiE20> [2010-03-28 03:14:58] Game is already paused. <-- 01:15:21 <fonsinchen> but I haven't checked. I haven't seen any visual problems 01:15:36 <KenjiE20> there's a lot of whatever those strings are 01:15:43 <fonsinchen> Ah, yes, I have checked ... but I have forgotten what it was. 01:15:49 <KenjiE20> good thing it's not logging :P 01:16:16 <fonsinchen> so, how can I connect? 01:16:17 <KenjiE20> whatever they are, it seems to be breaking AP+ 01:16:25 <fonsinchen> ouch 01:16:38 <KenjiE20> hence Tycoon not being here 01:17:25 <KenjiE20> it is on the master list though 01:17:28 <fonsinchen> I could find that debug message and raise its level 01:17:40 <fonsinchen> then we won't see it anymore 01:18:15 <KenjiE20> shall we shut it off for now? 01:18:20 <fonsinchen> There are other debug messages, though 01:18:35 <fonsinchen> OK 01:19:42 <Ammler> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/747 <-- maybe this? 01:20:05 <Ammler> oh, ups, 1 hour stolen :-( 01:20:07 <KenjiE20> I checkedout 747 01:20:24 <Ammler> it isn't in svn, afaik 01:20:24 <KenjiE20> how weird is that btw 01:20:30 <KenjiE20> oh 01:20:48 <Ammler> it is a workaround only 01:21:28 <KenjiE20> okay, so cp autopilot.tcl ->dist/autopilot then 01:22:14 <KenjiE20> nope 01:23:14 <KenjiE20> svn diff is blank after the copy too, so it must be in svn 01:23:35 <KenjiE20> dunno 01:24:35 <Ammler> hmm? 01:24:43 <KenjiE20> oh, its in the libs 01:24:43 <Ammler> what is dist? 01:24:46 <KenjiE20> nvm 01:24:59 <Ammler> ok :-) 01:25:36 <KenjiE20> hmmm 01:25:41 <KenjiE20> still not joining 01:25:52 <Ammler> enable irc_debug 01:26:05 <KenjiE20> plus those spam strings are a little mad 01:26:56 <KenjiE20> 'ircsend: 'NICK #openttdcoop.dev'' <- lol 01:27:26 <fonsinchen> It's from GameLogRevision() some buffer is only 16 bytes long and thus cannot save all of "g5b3732ce-cargodist" 01:27:27 <fonsinchen> silly 01:27:41 <KenjiE20> hehe 01:27:49 <Ammler> client_name? 01:28:03 <KenjiE20> client_name = Tycoon 01:28:53 <KenjiE20> it's essentially the same cfg from IS2 01:29:08 <KenjiE20> only edited 01:32:41 <KenjiE20> oh wait 01:32:48 <KenjiE20> I think I changed the wrong line 01:32:50 <KenjiE20> lol 01:33:42 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 01:33:42 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 01:33:42 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 01:33:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 01:33:48 <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin 01:33:52 <Tycoon> Server has exited 01:33:52 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 01:33:57 <KenjiE20> mmmmm, log spam 01:34:00 <KenjiE20> works now though 01:34:54 <fonsinchen> but now it is stopped? 01:34:55 <KenjiE20> fonsinchen, Ammler ; should we change that 'string too long' thing, or just launch? 01:35:16 <fonsinchen> if it doesn't hurt anymore we can as well start it 01:35:17 <Ammler> no idea about :-) 01:36:07 <fonsinchen> Is it still causing problems? 01:36:09 <KenjiE20> it's not nice, but it Should'nt hurt... I hope 01:36:36 <Ammler> ah, the version string is too long? 01:36:46 <fonsinchen> yes, more than 15 bytes 01:36:50 <fonsinchen> very silly 01:37:14 <fonsinchen> it doesn't matter though, because the last 4 bytes don't contribute anything 01:38:02 <Ammler> well, I should sleep, good night :- 01:38:28 <KenjiE20> it just spams the console a bit 01:38:31 <fonsinchen> I can change the warning message and hack the build system to still show the same version. 01:38:40 <KenjiE20> meh 01:38:42 <fonsinchen> But I don't think it's worth the hassle 01:38:55 <KenjiE20> we'll manage for now 01:38:56 <fonsinchen> Changing the buffer length would be far more evil 01:39:00 <fonsinchen> OK 01:39:08 <KenjiE20> fix it next time or something 01:39:25 <fonsinchen> I'll suppress that warning next time 01:39:25 <KenjiE20> I'll fire the thing up 01:39:30 <fonsinchen> OK, thanks 01:39:32 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 01:39:32 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 01:39:32 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 01:39:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 01:39:39 <KenjiE20> !info 01:39:47 <KenjiE20> no callback >_> 01:40:05 <KenjiE20> !ip 01:40:05 <Tycoon> KenjiE20: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 01:40:10 <KenjiE20> that works though 01:40:11 <Ammler> yes, the custom commands might be missing... 01:40:12 <KenjiE20> :) 01:40:17 <KenjiE20> meh 01:40:28 <KenjiE20> we can sort that in the morning 01:42:01 <KenjiE20> sleepy bed things is probably wise now though 01:42:19 <fonsinchen> I'll go to sleep, too 01:43:23 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 01:44:15 <fonsinchen> good night 01:46:00 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC 01:52:50 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 07:33:46 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 07:33:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 07:53:16 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 07:53:45 *** ^Spike^ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 07:53:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ^Spike^ 09:04:41 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.dev 09:16:42 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop.dev 09:16:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v fonsinchen 09:28:29 <fonsinchen> shall we start the game? 09:32:40 <fonsinchen> !help 09:33:15 <fonsinchen> Is there a manual for autopilot? 09:36:29 <fonsinchen> !ip 09:36:29 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 09:37:18 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: not much of a manual... but some on our wiki. Let me look 09:37:57 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Ap%2B 09:38:09 <fonsinchen> Ammler said the "custom commands" were missing and Kenji said they'd sort out things in the morning ... 09:38:30 <fonsinchen> I'm wondering what those "custom commands" are and if we really need them. 09:38:43 <planetmaker> which is not much of a manual. 09:39:05 <planetmaker> oh, custom commands. I guess those are our !download, !trains and alike things 09:39:27 <planetmaker> !info 09:40:02 <planetmaker> oh, and yes, obviously !ip and !help, too ;-) 09:40:37 <fonsinchen> !ip works, !help doesn't 09:40:37 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 09:40:38 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Autopilot <-- still true for ap+. But got some hints on starting 09:41:45 <planetmaker> btw, do you see the server's output? 09:41:57 <planetmaker> [2010-03-28 11:41:31] dbg: [misc] String too long for destination buffer 09:42:08 <fonsinchen> I can connect and I can see the console output in terminal 09:42:31 <planetmaker> that's what I meant, yeah. It's flooded with those messages 09:42:32 <fonsinchen> that "String too long" is because the version string is longer than 15 bytes. 09:42:43 <planetmaker> oh. 09:43:14 <fonsinchen> I'll just rename the cargodist branch to "cd" or something. 09:43:23 <fonsinchen> but it's too late now. 09:43:32 <fonsinchen> next time 09:43:37 <planetmaker> for this try: yes. Next time indeed :-) 09:44:01 <planetmaker> !info 09:44:19 <planetmaker> oh, there's now an svn-cargodist? 09:44:33 <planetmaker> that's the dir it is run from? 09:44:37 <planetmaker> or which? 09:44:44 <fonsinchen> yes 09:47:24 <fonsinchen> I'll create a version that suppresses this message and still keeps the same version string; then we don't have to watch the spam ... 09:47:35 <planetmaker> good idea 09:47:40 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 09:47:52 <planetmaker> !fish 09:47:52 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Todays fish is shark with a taste of Kenji a la crème. Enjoy your meal. 09:47:59 <planetmaker> so. Custom commands there :-) 09:48:01 <planetmaker> !grf 09:48:05 <planetmaker> hm... or not 09:48:10 <planetmaker> !info 09:48:10 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:1(Pink) Company Name: 'Unnamed' Year Founded: 1920 Money: 100000 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 09:48:16 <planetmaker> !password 09:48:24 <planetmaker> !screen 09:48:33 <planetmaker> !download 09:48:33 <Tycoon> planetmaker: !download autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 09:48:41 <planetmaker> !download win32 09:48:41 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-windows-win32.zip 09:48:51 <planetmaker> hm... osx won't work, I guess 09:48:53 <planetmaker> !download osx 09:48:53 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-macosx-universal.zip 09:49:12 <planetmaker> !tell planetmaker about rubish 09:49:12 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown command "rubish" 09:49:18 <planetmaker> !tell planetmaker about !tell 09:49:18 <Tycoon> planetmaker: !!tell <nick> [about] <command> [<options>] 09:49:26 <planetmaker> !trains 09:49:26 <Tycoon> planetmaker: !trains <integer>: set value of max_trains 09:49:33 <planetmaker> !screen 09:49:42 <planetmaker> !grf 09:50:13 <planetmaker> !uptime 09:50:13 <Tycoon> planetmaker: 11:50am up 21 days 6:02, 2 users, load average: 0.33, 0.20, 0.19 09:50:46 <Ammler> planetmaker: do not forget the callbacks 09:50:52 <Ammler> on_join specially 09:51:02 <planetmaker> ah 09:51:31 <fonsinchen> nice 09:51:38 <Ammler> oh 09:51:45 <Ammler> and good morning :-) 09:51:58 <planetmaker> :-) good morning 09:52:23 <planetmaker> callbacks also copied. Something else than scripts/irc and scripts/callback ? 09:52:32 <planetmaker> game and global? 09:52:47 <Ammler> http://ps.openttdcoop.org/public/scripts 09:53:04 <Ammler> and screen needs a patched server 09:53:12 <planetmaker> ah, ok 09:53:12 <Ammler> and patched ap 09:53:22 <planetmaker> well. irrelevant 09:53:52 <Ammler> if we use bananas only, !grf is irrelevant too 09:54:25 <planetmaker> :-) 09:54:34 <planetmaker> becoming more and more deprecated. I like that 09:54:52 <planetmaker> ok, scripts/*/*tcl copied 09:55:28 <planetmaker> !help 09:55:31 <planetmaker> hm... 09:55:36 <planetmaker> does it need re-load? 09:55:39 <planetmaker> I guess, eh? 09:55:41 <planetmaker> !save 09:55:41 <Tycoon> Saving game... 09:55:43 <Ammler> !reload config 09:55:43 <Tycoon> Ammler: config reloaded 09:55:44 <planetmaker> !exit 09:55:49 <Ammler> !reload all 09:55:49 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 09:55:49 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 09:55:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 09:55:51 <planetmaker> :-D 09:56:11 <Ammler> !help 09:56:26 <Ammler> help is a repsonse 09:56:34 <Ammler> defined in the cfg 09:56:44 <planetmaker> ah 09:57:06 <planetmaker> I thought it's help.tcl in scripts/game 09:57:36 <Ammler> well, game means, it is available only ingame 09:57:55 <fonsinchen> now we need to restart it so that the spam reduction takes effect 09:58:11 <planetmaker> a 09:58:23 <planetmaker> !exit 09:58:25 <Ammler> we could silence that debug level? 09:58:29 <fonsinchen> I have 09:58:48 <planetmaker> why doesn't !exit work? 09:58:49 <fonsinchen> I mean, previously the message appeared on debug_misc 0 09:58:52 <planetmaker> @op 09:58:58 <planetmaker> @whoami 09:58:58 <Webster> planetmaker: planetmaker 09:59:02 <Ammler> exit never existed afaik 09:59:05 <Ammler> !rcon exit 09:59:05 <fonsinchen> which I think you cannot silence 09:59:05 <Tycoon> Server has exited 09:59:05 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 09:59:12 <planetmaker> :-) ty 09:59:17 <fonsinchen> now I have changed that to 1 09:59:37 <Ammler> but !rcon exit != console exit 09:59:55 <Ammler> as you don't get a save 10:00:22 <planetmaker> Ammler: but there's a difference between exit and quit: exit = with save, quit = without save. IIRC 10:00:39 <planetmaker> any cfg changes required now? Or just restart ap? 10:00:51 <fonsinchen> I don't need config changes 10:00:56 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:00:56 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 10:00:56 <Tycoon> Loading default savegame 10:00:56 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 10:01:04 <planetmaker> well then :-) 10:01:30 <planetmaker> what a nice silence on the server's console ;-) 10:01:40 <planetmaker> ups. I broke it :-P 10:01:59 <fonsinchen> What's wrong? 10:02:04 *** KenjiE20 has joined #openttdcoop.dev 10:02:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o KenjiE20 10:02:10 <planetmaker> nothing :-) All is fine 10:02:15 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 10:02:32 <planetmaker> broke as in "broke the silence" :-) 10:03:15 <fonsinchen> How many ppl need to join for it to unpause? 10:03:30 <planetmaker> usually two. 10:03:32 <KenjiE20> config was 1 10:03:34 <planetmaker> !unpause 10:03:34 <Tycoon> *** planetmaker has unpaused the server. (Use !auto to set it back.) 10:03:40 <planetmaker> will change that :-) 10:03:55 <planetmaker> !auto 10:03:55 <Tycoon> *** planetmaker has enabled autopause mode. 10:03:59 <KenjiE20> !rcon min_active_clients 10:03:59 <Tycoon> KenjiE20: ERROR: command not found 10:04:04 <KenjiE20> !rcon set min_active_clients 10:04:04 <Tycoon> KenjiE20: Current value for 'min_active_clients' is: '2' (min: 0, max: 255) 10:04:15 <KenjiE20> fine 10:04:17 <KenjiE20> :P 10:04:34 <fonsinchen> OK, I'll announce it in the Cargodist thread now 10:04:35 <KenjiE20> pm; fyi that !fish is in [responses] 10:04:56 <planetmaker> !svn 10:05:00 <planetmaker> !dl svn 10:05:00 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "svn" 10:05:05 <planetmaker> hm 10:05:10 <planetmaker> !download osx 10:05:10 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-macosx-universal.zip 10:05:56 <planetmaker> ^^ Is that link correct?!! 10:06:06 <KenjiE20> probably not 10:06:17 <KenjiE20> fon asked rub to push to coop space 10:06:54 <planetmaker> yes. They won't host on their space as it's no official binary. 10:07:01 <planetmaker> Which is fine 10:07:01 <KenjiE20> also, exit is 'our' command, quit is OpenTTDs iirc 10:07:46 <KenjiE20> I forget when the change has to be for urls 10:09:22 <KenjiE20> I'd look but I'm still feeding caffeine via a mug of tea 10:11:19 <fonsinchen> Yes, that URL is wrong 10:11:25 <fonsinchen> !ip 10:11:25 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 10:11:31 <planetmaker> I changed the dl URL. 10:11:35 <fonsinchen> !dl 10:11:35 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|lin|lin64|osx|win32|win64|win9x 10:11:41 <fonsinchen> !dl win32 10:11:41 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-windows-win32.zip 10:11:48 <planetmaker> !reload config 10:11:48 <Tycoon> planetmaker: config reloaded 10:11:54 <planetmaker> !download osx 10:11:55 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "osx" 10:11:55 <fonsinchen> there 10:11:57 <KenjiE20> !re yea 10:12:02 <planetmaker> !download lin 10:12:02 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g714743faM-cargodist/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-cargodist-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:12:04 <planetmaker> yup 10:12:11 <fonsinchen> there's an extra "trunk" in there 10:12:26 <planetmaker> where? 10:13:19 <fonsinchen> !dl win32 10:13:19 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-windows-win32.zip 10:13:24 <planetmaker> ah, you were too quick :-) 10:13:36 <planetmaker> hm... strange 10:13:37 <fonsinchen> !dl lin 10:13:38 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/g5b3732ce-cargodist/openttd-trunk-g5b3732ce-cargodist-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:13:53 <planetmaker> oh. !dl != !download?! 10:14:01 <fonsinchen> !download lin 10:14:01 <Tycoon> fonsinchen: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g714743faM-cargodist/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-cargodist-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:14:12 <KenjiE20> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/ <-- should be the dir 10:14:26 <KenjiE20> not 3faM 10:14:32 <fonsinchen> OK, with "!download" you get the wrong basedir 10:15:01 <fonsinchen> with "!dl" you get "openttd-trunk-<version>-cargodist-<platform>" 10:15:18 <fonsinchen> the "trunk" is wrong 10:15:21 <planetmaker> you're right, KenjiE20 10:15:24 <planetmaker> will fix that 10:17:04 <planetmaker> !reload config 10:17:04 <Tycoon> planetmaker: config reloaded 10:17:08 <planetmaker> !dl lin 10:17:08 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-cargodist-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:17:13 <planetmaker> !dl win32 10:17:13 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-cargodist-windows-win32.zip 10:17:18 <planetmaker> !download lin 10:17:18 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-cargodist-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:17:22 <planetmaker> !dl osx 10:17:22 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "osx" 10:17:25 <planetmaker> ok? 10:17:48 <KenjiE20> no extra cargodist 10:18:11 <KenjiE20> openttd-cargodist-g5blah-OS 10:18:41 <planetmaker> !revision 10:18:42 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Game version is g5b3732ce-cargodist 10:18:55 <planetmaker> hm... 10:19:14 <KenjiE20> yes, that's it's tag, no, it's not in the filename, yes, it's silly 10:19:20 <KenjiE20> :) 10:19:37 <planetmaker> that's not straight forward working with ap's vars. 10:20:32 <planetmaker> !reload config 10:20:32 <Tycoon> planetmaker: config reloaded 10:20:37 <planetmaker> !dl lin 10:20:37 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 10:20:44 <planetmaker> ^ ? 10:21:06 <KenjiE20> yay a save dialog 10:21:18 <fonsinchen> OK, I've posted in the cargodist thread. Maybe we should also write a blog post at openttdcoop.org? 10:21:19 <planetmaker> :-) 10:21:28 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: sure :-) 10:21:29 <KenjiE20> or twitter it 10:21:32 <planetmaker> or both 10:21:32 <KenjiE20> or something 10:21:51 <KenjiE20> well blog would just go "Blogged: Post Title" 10:21:55 <KenjiE20> on twits 10:22:02 <fonsinchen> Do I have access to that blog? 10:22:09 <KenjiE20> not a clue 10:22:13 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: if you register, you'll have :-) 10:23:43 <fonsinchen> OK, I'll register then 10:24:35 <KenjiE20> Dev Server is up 10:24:36 <KenjiE20> Using: g5b3732ce-carg 10:24:38 <KenjiE20> ^ heh 10:25:07 <planetmaker> :-P too long version string 10:25:33 <planetmaker> interesting where that propagates 10:28:03 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: when you have registered at the blog, drop me a note. I'll give you then publishing rights 10:28:33 <fonsinchen> Yes, I'm waiting for the password mail. 10:29:30 <KenjiE20> we seriously need to do a major web shake up at some point in the future 10:30:10 <planetmaker> KenjiE20: most interesting would be a common login IMHO. Even though the OpenID somewhat works for that. 10:30:20 <KenjiE20> I've been thinking about that 10:30:46 <planetmaker> WordPress announces that it wants an update 10:30:47 <KenjiE20> I reckon I could pull something off, given a decent OpenID framework and DB access 10:31:13 <KenjiE20> pm; it's been like that way for ages 10:31:31 <KenjiE20> no ones brave/stupid enough to update :P 10:31:34 <planetmaker> maybe. I just noticed. Most probably again, but I always forgot or read over it ;-) 10:32:51 <KenjiE20> fonsinchen: you might want to try again, SABRE is crapping up as per usual 10:33:44 <planetmaker> I could create an account ;-) 10:33:47 <fonsinchen> ERROR: Missing password. 10:33:48 <fonsinchen> ERROR: Invalid letter. 10:34:00 <planetmaker> interesting 10:34:01 <KenjiE20> yea, that's all we get on the other end too 10:34:03 <fonsinchen> but at the same time it says it has sent me a password 10:34:07 <KenjiE20> it's useless 10:36:32 <Ammler> openid doesn't work anymore 10:36:55 <KenjiE20> it never worked for me :( 10:37:05 <KenjiE20> like I say, could use an overhaul 10:37:21 <planetmaker> it worked for me. But it didn't really pose an advantage. The same time it needs to enter a pw, I can enter the OpenID... 10:38:21 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (connection lost) 10:38:42 <fonsinchen> ouch, I got disconnected ... 10:39:02 <Ammler> well, if openid would work, you can remove the requirement of the url 10:39:17 <Ammler> just a link "login" which automatically gets it from the provider 10:39:32 <KenjiE20> requirement of the url <-- what? 10:40:38 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 10:41:54 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: did you change the server string or just the debug level? 10:42:07 <planetmaker> The latter from what you said... just checking, though :-) 10:42:22 <fonsinchen> I only changed the debug level 10:42:40 <planetmaker> oh lovely... :-( 10:42:50 * KenjiE20 is grabbing a build 10:43:17 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (leaving) 10:44:22 <planetmaker> !dl svn 10:44:22 <Tycoon> planetmaker: unknown option "svn" 10:44:29 <planetmaker> !dl source 10:44:29 <Tycoon> planetmaker: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-source.tar.bz2 10:44:46 <KenjiE20> hmmm, win32 build reports g5b3732ceM-cargodist 10:45:27 <fonsinchen> that's the problem, not the short/long thing 10:45:38 <fonsinchen> the compile farm has built a "modified" version 10:56:49 <fonsinchen> can we restart the server? I have put the new binary in place 10:57:24 <planetmaker> sure we can 10:57:43 <planetmaker> but I truely would advocate to not add just an 'M' but to use the 'proper' binaries 10:58:46 <fonsinchen> How can the compile farm modify my code? 10:58:48 <fonsinchen> It cannot 10:59:15 <fonsinchen> it must be bogus. 11:03:49 <planetmaker> fonsinchen: http://pastebin.ca/1854511 <-- that's what we used for IS2 in order to get a proper version string for releases there. 11:04:20 <planetmaker> that patch is 4 months old now and I didn't recently test. But in principle it should work 11:05:44 <fonsinchen> I did a slightly different thing, but to the same effect 11:05:53 <fonsinchen> We should restart the server 11:07:16 <Tycoon> Server closed down by admin 11:07:16 <Tycoon> Saving game... 11:07:20 <Tycoon> Server has exited 11:07:20 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 11:07:38 <planetmaker> I dunno with which binary, though ;-) 11:07:51 <fonsinchen> I have already exchanged the binaries 11:07:56 <fonsinchen> look at console 0 11:08:18 <fonsinchen> just restart the new file in the same place 11:09:57 <planetmaker> did you make bundle and cp -r bundle/* ~/svn-cargodist/autopilot ? 11:09:57 <fonsinchen> I'll do it myself 11:10:01 <fonsinchen> yes 11:10:14 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 11:10:14 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 11:10:14 <Tycoon> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop.dev:} Cargodist' 11:10:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 11:10:20 <planetmaker> !revision 11:10:20 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Game version is g5b3732ceM-cargodist 11:10:57 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 11:11:01 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 11:11:01 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 11:11:12 <Tycoon> *** Player has changed his/her name to Kenji 11:11:16 <fonsinchen> see, works 11:11:31 <Tycoon> <Kenji> can't say that till unpause really 11:11:38 <Tycoon> <Kenji> but yea, version doesn't mismatch 11:11:55 <fonsinchen> the code hasn't changed on either side 11:12:03 <Tycoon> <Kenji> also, wow, I see why it took so long for the save to be uploaded now 11:12:11 <fonsinchen> hihi 11:12:20 <Tycoon> *** Kenji has joined company #1 11:12:31 <KenjiE20> !rcon unpause 11:12:39 <KenjiE20> ¬auto 11:12:41 <KenjiE20> !auto 11:12:41 <Tycoon> *** KenjiE20 has enabled autopause mode. 11:13:29 <Tycoon> <Kenji> lol @ Auxerre 11:13:35 <Tycoon> <Kenji> hinthinthint 11:14:20 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker joined the game 11:14:31 <Tycoon> <planetm4ker> wow :-) 11:14:58 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 11:15:16 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker has left the game (connection lost) 11:15:22 <Tycoon> <Kenji> heh, despite that massive blockade at fons 11:15:32 <Tycoon> <Kenji> I bet there'll be trains in there by the end 11:15:34 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Intresting map 11:16:14 <planetmaker> hm, I guess uploading stuff and playing doesn't work here 11:16:41 <KenjiE20> uploading should work 11:16:52 <KenjiE20> I fixed the perms last night 11:16:56 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has started a new company (#2) 11:17:56 <Tycoon> *** Kenji has joined spectators 11:17:57 <planetmaker> @topic change -4 s/32ce/32ceM/ 11:17:57 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: Down | Tag/Revision: g5b3732ceM-cargodist | Binaries: !download | This isn't about Developing ;-) | this is REALLY not about developing, just playing developing versions :-P" 11:19:06 <planetmaker> psst: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/opengfx/releases/ 11:21:34 <Tycoon> *** Kenji has left the game (leaving) 11:26:55 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker joined the game 11:29:35 <Tycoon> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving) 11:31:44 *** OwenS has joined #openttdcoop.dev 11:32:54 <OwenS> fonsinchen: Is it really still down? :P 11:46:35 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Oh, sometimes you *need* more than one engine. Now my previous 5-tile train took the hill :-) 11:47:31 <OwenS> @stage Running 11:47:31 *** Webster changes topic to "#openttdcoop patch test channel - Cargo Distribution | http://wiki.openttd.org/CargoDist | STAGE: Running | Tag/Revision: g5b3732ceM-cargodist | Binaries: !download | This isn't about Developing ;-) | this is REALLY not about developing, just playing developing versions :-P" 11:47:38 <OwenS> !players 11:47:41 <Tycoon> OwenS: Client 4 (Purple) is fonsinchen, in company 1 (Weed Traffick) 11:47:41 <Tycoon> OwenS: Client 9 (Red) is Zuuu, in company 2 (Zuuu Transport) 11:47:59 <OwenS> !git 11:48:05 <OwenS> Hmm :-( 11:49:48 *** Pirate87 has joined #openttdcoop.dev 11:50:29 <V453000> do we have pax cargodist or also industries? 11:50:42 <fonsinchen> everything 11:51:21 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Btw, is there an IRC channel and what is the name of it? 11:51:22 <OwenS> fonsinchen: Couldn't you have a git:/ git repo? :p 11:51:29 <OwenS> Zuu: #openttdcoop.dev 11:51:33 <KenjiE20> Zsee the server name 11:51:39 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.dev 11:51:57 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> I tried with #dev.openttdcoop yesterday. 11:52:19 <KenjiE20> heh 11:52:19 <OwenS> Wrong way round :p 11:52:27 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I should configure a git:// repository, yes 11:52:30 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> well, that's the domain name. 11:52:47 <KenjiE20> most of our stuff is #openttdcoop.thing 11:52:51 <OwenS> fonsinchen: Or just have cron push it somewhere like Gitorious :p 11:52:52 <KenjiE20> wrong 11:52:59 <KenjiE20> dev.openttdcoop is the DevZONE 11:53:10 <KenjiE20> not the dev test server 11:53:13 <OwenS> Which is #openttdcoop.devzone. for maximum confusion. 11:53:20 <KenjiE20> ^ 11:53:50 <KenjiE20> /list coop , usually works nicely 11:57:10 * OwenS make -j5 12:03:45 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 12:03:45 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 12:04:33 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:07:08 <OwenS> !ip 12:07:08 <Tycoon> OwenS: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 12:07:28 <OwenS> Hmm 12:07:34 <OwenS> I have no M :-S 12:08:10 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and it works? 12:08:15 <OwenS> No 12:08:17 <OwenS> Version mismatch 12:08:18 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> did you build yourself? 12:08:23 <OwenS> Yes 12:08:24 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> where did you get the binary? 12:08:36 <Zuu> OwenS: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/ 12:08:40 * OwenS grumbles and downloads it 12:08:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> just change the version string in rev.cpp 12:09:18 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:09:52 <Tycoon> *** Owen joined the game 12:09:53 <Tycoon> *** vok joined the game 12:10:00 <Tycoon> <Owen> Whoa, aquaducts? 12:11:48 <Tycoon> * Owen ponders all the radio towers 12:12:15 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> Le Fons is well protected 12:12:33 <Tycoon> <Owen> And no aircraft XD 12:12:47 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> There will be ships later on 12:12:50 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and aircraft 12:13:04 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and of course it is possible to build trains there 12:13:10 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> just very hard 12:13:16 <Tycoon> <Owen> mmm 12:13:58 <Tycoon> *** vok has started a new company (#5) 12:15:53 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:16:49 <Tycoon> *** Player #1 has left the game (connection lost) 12:18:43 <Tycoon> *** Roujin joined the game 12:18:52 <Tycoon> <Roujin> greetings 12:18:57 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hello Roujin 12:18:59 <Tycoon> <Owen> Greetings indeed 12:20:32 <Tycoon> <Roujin> this is an interesting map :D 12:20:34 <Tycoon> * Owen thinks people will find the aquaduct unprofitable :p 12:20:51 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> maybe ... but then it still looks funny 12:20:51 <Tycoon> <Roujin> yeah, that's what I was thinking.. 12:20:52 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 12:20:53 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 12:21:17 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Especially since you can probably tunnel under the fence at OpenTTD north. 12:21:19 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 12:21:31 <Tycoon> <Roujin> should I give it a try (the aqueduct) and go bankrupt? :P 12:21:39 <Tycoon> <Owen> No ships yet :P 12:22:06 <Tycoon> <Roujin> ah yes, pre-1950 12:22:24 <Tycoon> <Owen> Crap! Ctrl instead of shift 12:22:50 <Tycoon> <Owen> >_< I demolished water rather than investigating how much it would cost :p 12:23:01 <Tycoon> <Roujin> aww 12:23:09 <Tycoon> <Owen> In any case: Lots :p 12:23:31 <Tycoon> <Roujin> lots lost 12:24:30 <Tycoon> <Roujin> wtf, four banks in one town? 12:24:44 <Tycoon> <Roujin> are we in swiss, or what? 12:24:58 <Tycoon> <Roujin> *switzerland 12:25:12 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> that's probably on the border, actually we are in france 12:26:02 <Tycoon> <Owen> Le Creusot has 5 water towers. 4 of them next to each other 12:26:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the random industry placement does funny things at times 12:32:40 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm 12:32:47 <Zuu> Is it something to borther about if you get cargo that want to go to "any station"? 12:32:49 <Tycoon> <Owen> Perhaps a more powerful loco may be in order 12:33:11 <Tycoon> <Roujin> train 3, eh? 12:33:33 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> if cargo goes to "any station" it either hasn't been included into the flow calculation yet or some link has broken done 12:33:35 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yeah :p 12:33:37 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> down 12:33:39 <Tycoon> <Owen> And 2 12:33:39 <Tycoon> <Roujin> Tycoon: that's normal for a while, until destination is computed 12:34:01 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> and there'll be more engines soon 12:34:15 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Okay, it is a rather new long link so it could be because it is too new. 12:35:01 <Tycoon> <Roujin> owen: 12:35:18 <Tycoon> <Roujin> owen: when empty, it's not as hard on the loco, right? 12:35:55 <OwenS> Correct 12:36:19 <Tycoon> <Owen> The little one works fine on the LCH -> GE run, because it only climbs emptuy 12:36:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> O.M.G. 12:36:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> Stuck again 12:36:47 <Tycoon> <Roujin> shorter train, then :P 12:37:41 <Tycoon> <Owen> Or use a less climby route :p 12:37:50 <Tycoon> *** Arie joined the game 12:38:29 <Tycoon> <Roujin> is terrain modification disallowed / limited? 12:38:43 <Tycoon> <Owen> Expensive :p 12:38:57 <Tycoon> <Roujin> I know, but only 1k more expensive than the tunnel would cost me 12:39:19 <Tycoon> <Arie> omfg, so i'm here to help testing cargodist 12:39:34 <Tycoon> <Arie> but just started laughing at the huge aquaduct 12:39:38 <Tycoon> <Arie> wtf! 12:39:56 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen working to make companeis unprofitable :p 12:40:24 <Tycoon> <Roujin> erm, so what about terraforming? 12:40:35 <Tycoon> <Owen> BTW: Why does OpenTTD have no auatunnels? :P 12:40:39 <Tycoon> <Owen> Allowed I think 12:41:21 <Tycoon> <Owen> I wish I could get back the money I spent on accidentally demolishing ocean :p 12:41:21 <Tycoon> <Roujin> because no one implemented it..? That's the ultimate answer to all of these questions :P 12:41:43 <Tycoon> <Owen> :P 12:43:13 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm... playing impeded by cat 12:44:52 <Tycoon> *** Roujin has left the game (connection lost) 12:45:25 <Tycoon> *** Roujin joined the game 12:45:32 <Tycoon> <Roujin> hmm, just got kicked 12:45:51 <Tycoon> <Owen> "Connection lost" 12:46:33 <Tycoon> <Owen> OpenTTD aquaducts look silly... 12:46:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> No depth to them 12:47:25 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 12:47:26 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 12:48:41 <Tycoon> <Player> I would like to, where do i do that? 12:48:59 <Tycoon> <Owen> Player: Press the key to the left of 1 on your keyboard, then type "nick newnick" 12:49:34 <Tycoon> <Roujin> some keyboard layouts require pressing the key twice.. 12:49:36 <Tycoon> * Owen makes a long term investment :p 12:49:40 <Tycoon> <Player> mmh, i get an ERROR kommand not found 12:49:50 <Tycoon> <Owen> Name sorry 12:49:54 <Tycoon> *** Player has changed his/her name to RF 12:50:06 <Tycoon> <RF> ah, k, it worked^^ 12:50:38 <Tycoon> * Owen thinks he may now have a monopoly on economical transport to Le Fons 12:50:57 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> who? 12:51:00 <Tycoon> <Owen> me :p 12:51:38 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> what did you do? 12:51:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> I bought the only land on which one can build a feasible tunnel 12:51:58 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> :) 12:52:59 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 12:52:59 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 12:53:16 <Tycoon> <Roujin> heh heh heh 12:53:42 <Tycoon> <Roujin> stalemate :P 13:00:17 <Tycoon> <Owen> Grr Roujin :p 13:00:19 <Tycoon> <Owen> Damn you! :P 13:00:30 <Tycoon> <Roujin> stalemate :P 13:00:44 <Tycoon> <Roujin> oh you actually want to build it? 13:00:51 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yes :p 13:00:57 <Tycoon> <Owen> Though... hmm... 13:01:03 <Tycoon> <Roujin> okay, you get the rightmost four 13:01:05 <Tycoon> <Owen> Gah. Can't buy your shares yet :p 13:01:08 <Tycoon> <Roujin> I the leftmost :P 13:01:11 <Tycoon> <Roujin> deal? 13:01:13 <Tycoon> <Owen> Deal 13:01:21 <Tycoon> <Roujin> done 13:01:40 <Tycoon> <Owen> Now its a duopoly :p 13:03:36 <Tycoon> <Owen> Now I just need to wait for a while to be able to afford everything :p 13:03:58 <Tycoon> <Roujin> well, why did you terraform in the water there? 13:04:04 <Tycoon> <Roujin> oh I see 13:04:07 <Tycoon> <Roujin> hmm 13:04:17 <Tycoon> <Owen> Actually... should have just gone around >_< 13:04:23 <Tycoon> <Owen> Still have my #ottdc hat on 13:04:49 <Tycoon> <Owen> Bad day fonsinchen? 13:04:53 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ouhc 13:05:17 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> That was the result of messing up the signaling at Bergerac Mines 13:05:39 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> Now I just need to wait a little to be able to afford everything 13:05:41 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ;) 13:05:59 <Tycoon> <Owen> I need to wait 2 years to afford a tunnel. ONE MEASLY TUNNEL. 13:07:17 <Tycoon> <Arie> ah damn, not used to play with reverse at stations off 13:07:24 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 13:07:32 <planetmaker> Rubidium: you may now want to sync your mirrors. 13:07:40 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> someone's got a plan ... 13:07:42 <planetmaker> wrong channel :-P 13:08:10 <Tycoon> <Owen> And now... I wait for cash 13:08:42 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm it seams things are a bit more expensive than i'm used to 13:08:52 <Tycoon> <Arie> train runnings are higher than my profits :( 13:08:54 <Tycoon> <Owen> I wait for 134k cash 13:09:16 <Tycoon> *** RF has left the game (leaving) 13:10:01 <Tycoon> <Owen> rofl at all of us still being worthless 13:10:11 <Tycoon> <Owen> First ship is here ^^ 13:12:53 <PeterT> Game already! 13:12:58 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm... Its a shame Cargodist doesnt allow cargo to hop between companies 13:13:16 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you need an oil rig for that 13:13:18 <PeterT> You mean CargoDist+IS 13:13:22 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> or IS 13:13:29 <PeterT> I've merged them, haven't released it though 13:13:46 <Tycoon> <Owen> Sorry to hear of your troubles Arie 13:13:57 <PeterT> !players 13:14:00 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 19 (Orange) is Owen, in company 4 (Owen Transport) 13:14:00 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 4 (Purple) is fonsinchen, in company 1 (Weed Traffick) 13:14:00 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 17 (Green) is vok, in company 5 (vok Transport) 13:14:00 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 9 (Red) is Zuuu, in company 2 (Zuuu Transport) 13:14:00 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 32 (Blue) is Roujin, in company 6 (Roujin Transport) 13:14:02 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 30 (White) is Arie, in company 7 (Arie Transport) 13:14:02 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hehe, do someone have enough money to buy Arie? :-p 13:14:04 <PeterT> !date 13:14:04 <Tycoon> PeterT: 16 Apr 1928 13:14:06 <Tycoon> <Owen> You have available loan :p 13:14:13 <Tycoon> <Owen> Zuuu: I have £13k available total 13:14:32 <Tycoon> <Owen> And Im not in the business of buying unprofitable companies :p 13:14:42 <Tycoon> <Arie> lol :) 13:15:06 <PeterT> !companies 13:15:09 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 1 (Purple): Weed Traffick 13:15:09 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 2 (Red): Zuuu Transport 13:15:09 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 3 (Pink): Player Transport 13:15:09 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 4 (Orange): Investor AB 13:15:09 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 5 (Green): vok Transport 13:15:10 <Tycoon> PeterT: Company 8 (Yellow): RF-Transporte 13:15:51 <PeterT> !ip 13:15:51 <Tycoon> PeterT: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 13:16:08 <Tycoon> *** Peter joined the game 13:16:16 <Tycoon> <Arie> i'd never played a game with changed costs :( 13:16:26 <Tycoon> <Peter> Can I join somebody? 13:16:46 <Tycoon> *** alberth joined the game 13:16:50 <Tycoon> <Owen> Is 8 the max companies? :s 13:16:52 *** Fuco has joined #openttdcoop.dev 13:17:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> sure, join me 13:17:23 <Tycoon> *** Peter has joined company #1 13:17:31 <Tycoon> * Owen curses his earlier water demolition 13:17:33 <Tycoon> <Peter> lol @ company name 13:17:36 <Tycoon> <Arie> it couldn't go worse with my company if you joined here ;) 13:18:23 <Tycoon> <Peter> oh lord, I have the minimap set to purple 13:18:54 <Tycoon> <Arie> ah, forgot all about the service percentage depending on the coverage of the network 13:19:32 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm, how do the graphs work? 13:19:59 <Tycoon> <Peter> shows how the cargo flows 13:20:06 <Tycoon> <Arie> the capacity 13:20:09 <Tycoon> <Peter> and something about cargo capacity 13:20:11 <Tycoon> <Arie> and the actual usage 13:20:33 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> capacity = white, planned flow = red. The rectangles overlap. The one in the back is larger 13:20:39 <Tycoon> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 13:20:55 <Tycoon> <Owen> Roujin: going bankrupt too? 13:20:58 <PeterT> fonsinchen: thanks 13:21:36 <Tycoon> <Owen> Oh well, thats good, I can regain monopoly status 13:21:50 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> oh, someone's got cash 13:22:08 <Tycoon> <Arie> looks like my network just turned profitable :D 13:22:26 <Tycoon> <Owen> vok Transport 13:22:40 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Looks like it is only me that is stupid enough to trying to transport over the mountain :-p 13:23:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> Everyone's netwroksa re more extensive than mine :p 13:24:21 <Tycoon> <alberth> not very busy map, room for one newbie? 13:24:28 <Tycoon> <Owen> yeah 13:25:32 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> cargo ship is there 13:25:51 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> let's see if anyone uses the aquaduct ... 13:26:06 <Tycoon> <Owen> Oh silly train! Why are you spending money servicing 13:27:06 <Tycoon> *** alberth has started a new company (#6) 13:27:47 *** Progman has quit IRC 13:27:58 <Tycoon> <Owen> Roujin: How is life as a part of the Vok conglomorate? :p 13:33:27 <Tycoon> <Roujin> meh, was away and got bought up :P 13:33:33 <Tycoon> <Owen> lol 13:33:43 <Tycoon> <Owen> You went bankrupt :p 13:33:49 <Tycoon> <Arie> you were offered for 112000 13:33:53 <Tycoon> <Roujin> oops 13:33:56 <Tycoon> <Owen> I got offered to purchase you but couldnt afford it by a long shot :p 13:34:47 <Tycoon> <Roujin> bad luck if you have a girlfriend that orders you to go wash the dishes >< 13:35:01 <Tycoon> * Owen wishes he had more cash >_< 13:35:14 <Tycoon> <alberth> I must also do the dishes, but no gf :) 13:35:42 <planetmaker> that's even worse ;-) 13:36:27 <OwenS> planetmaker: You gonna join? :p 13:36:41 <planetmaker> Maybe later today. 13:36:51 <planetmaker> Got a few exams I have to correct till tomorrow 13:36:54 <OwenS> You're invited to join my trainwreck if you wish ;-) 13:37:32 <planetmaker> at least I fulfilled my main OpenTTD - related job schedules for today ;-) 13:37:53 <planetmaker> everything else today in that area is 'extra' :-) 13:38:13 <Tycoon> <Roujin> god dammed desert people don't want to travel >< 13:38:24 <Tycoon> <Roujin> passenger service is so unprofitable >< 13:38:46 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Indeed 13:39:08 <Tycoon> <Owen> So going for cargo was a wise move then :-) 13:39:14 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Even though I scraped my feeders and cheated with bus stations I still make very little from it. 13:39:21 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm i though i was making a profit, aperantly not :( 13:40:11 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm 13:40:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> I make 20k profit a year 13:40:16 <Tycoon> <Owen> This is gonna take a while 13:40:38 <Tycoon> <Owen> OK, a bit more if I stop compulsively fiddling :p 13:41:41 <Tycoon> <Roujin> well, I gotta go.. maybe I'll check back in later. see you guys :) 13:41:47 <Tycoon> <Owen> bye 13:42:33 <Tycoon> <alberth> loading mail at a diamond mine is not going to make much money ;) 13:42:47 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> hehe :-) 13:42:49 <Tycoon> <Owen> rofl 13:43:03 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> same as loading maze at iron ore mines :-) 13:43:33 <Tycoon> *** Roujin has left the game (leaving) 13:44:12 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 13:44:22 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (connection lost) 13:45:05 *** Coco-Banana-Man has joined #openttdcoop.dev 14:00:28 <OwenS> Its official 14:00:30 <OwenS> Im going bankrupt :p 14:01:18 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hmm, but your budget should be at least on + if you don't invest in anything. 14:01:27 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 14:01:39 <Tycoon> <Owen> Except for a locked up network problem :p 14:02:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> If I fix up the lockups I am profitbale however 14:02:45 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (connection lost) 14:02:59 <Coco-Banana-Man> ... 14:03:31 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yay, in the black (In OpenTTD, white? 14:04:23 <Tycoon> <Arie> i think i'm heading for a bankruptcy as well :( 14:13:17 <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL joined the game 14:13:21 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> hmm 14:13:21 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 14:13:34 <PeterT> hey BlueEagly 14:13:37 <PeterT> *BlueEagle 14:13:41 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> Hi Peter 14:13:43 <PeterT> Coco-Banana-Man: Managed to connect? 14:13:48 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> Just dropping in for a short while tho ;) 14:13:50 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> it seems that after setting "OpenMSX" as default music set, the game went extremely laggy.. 14:14:18 <Tycoon> <alberth> hmm, are two routes to the same bank not seen as equally useful? 14:14:21 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (connection lost) 14:14:31 <Tycoon> <alberth> apparently not :) 14:14:58 <Coco-Banana-Man> hmm, must be another reason -.- 14:16:34 <Tycoon> <alberth> when does 'diamonds to any station' happen? 14:16:52 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> That happens at new links 14:17:00 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> that's initial cargo creation... Before the system really knows where the link links to ;) 14:17:06 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Before the link graph has been recalculated or something like that. 14:17:06 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> when either your link has broken down or the linkgraph hasn't seen it yet 14:17:22 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yay 14:17:24 <Tycoon> <Owen> I have a little money 14:17:27 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> xD 14:17:41 <Tycoon> <alberth> ok, just set up a new link. didn't expect that to happen in such a case 14:18:23 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it doesn't hurt, the cargo will go wherever you take it in that case 14:18:54 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> but cargo with a destination will always be taken first, I noticed... At least in prev. builds 14:19:12 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> yes, that's right 14:20:36 <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL has started a new company (#7) 14:23:20 <Tycoon> *** Arie has started a new company (#9) 14:25:36 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> Out for a while, be back later 14:25:53 <PeterT> bye 14:28:59 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 14:29:14 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (connection lost) 14:30:07 <Coco-Banana-Man> after clicking the multiplay-button, the game gets stuck every few seconds for a few seconds... 14:31:08 <Coco-Banana-Man> and when leaving the multiplayer game, it's even doing that in title screen 14:33:19 <Tycoon> <Owen> Haha fonsinchen, LeFons Docks? :p 14:33:34 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I'll be the king of rubber 14:33:40 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> once I can afford ships 14:33:42 <Tycoon> <Owen> Until I get a train in :p 14:34:08 <Tycoon> <Owen> Which is in about 50k time :p 14:34:22 <Tycoon> <Owen> Which, going by my performance, is about 2 years from now 14:37:09 <Tycoon> *** RF joined the game 14:40:42 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm 14:40:45 <Tycoon> <Owen> Waiting trains turn around is on =( 14:40:54 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 14:42:03 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen: Got boat money yet? :p 14:42:13 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> no 14:42:23 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> deleted some invalid servers from the list - it seems to work now :) 14:42:38 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> but I have to change some loks as they're too weak for hauling water 14:42:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> Aah 14:42:51 <Tycoon> <Owen> Ive had the same issue 14:42:53 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has joined company #8 14:44:25 <Tycoon> <Owen> Ive delayed my construction as well for some network upgrades 14:46:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> My oil wells are declining :S 14:47:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it's hard to keep production up as you have to connect to many destinations to get a decent rating 14:47:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yeah 14:47:32 <Tycoon> <Owen> Cargo destinations is IMO somewhat annoying; means I need lots of trains. Which I cant afford :p 14:47:51 <Tycoon> <Owen> pax dest of course is always welcome 14:47:57 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> You don't *need* to use transfers :-) 14:48:05 <Tycoon> <Owen> Zuuu: No, but without you dont get the full cargo :p 14:48:11 <Tycoon> <Arie> i guess this testing server is to find acceptable settings and robustness testing etc? 14:48:25 <Tycoon> <Owen> Mainly robustness testing 14:48:39 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I've set all cargo to be automatically routed 14:48:50 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> we can try with only pax and mail next time 14:49:42 <Tycoon> <alberth> does that 'to any station' happen before cargo from the new link has arrived at the station? 14:49:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> yes 14:50:14 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it happens before the first link graph component including your new station has run 14:50:38 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> or if a link has broken down and no alternative was available 14:50:58 <Tycoon> <alberth> don't understand it, tbh 14:51:20 <Tycoon> <alberth> I add a new link elsewhere in the network 14:51:34 <Tycoon> <Owen> OK 14:51:44 <Tycoon> <Owen> I am a 7k away from a tunnel! XD 14:52:32 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you add a link, then it takes some time before the link graph component for the new link is recalculated 14:52:46 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> those calculations run asynchronously and only at certain times 14:52:52 <Tycoon> <Owen> Then trains will be able to make an awesomely long journey, including a 29 tile tunnel and 50 tile wooden bridge, to transport goods :-) 14:53:10 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> before it is run we don't know where the cargo will be going 14:53:48 <Tycoon> <alberth> sure, but why make cargo at another station that was already routed before, go to any destination, 2 hops further downstream? 14:54:19 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> maybe your link is so infrequently serviced that it broke down 14:55:01 <Tycoon> <alberth> ships are simply not that fast :) 14:55:41 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm lol, i have the habit of saving regularly 14:55:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> where is that problem? 14:55:50 <Tycoon> <Arie> not necessary of course :) 14:56:04 <Tycoon> <alberth> st brieuc forest 14:56:31 <Razaekel> cargodest? 14:56:39 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen: You should probably have turned on "disable servicing when breakdowns set to none" 14:57:05 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> at st brieuc forest there is no cargo to any station 14:57:09 <Razaekel> !dl win64 14:57:09 <Tycoon> Razaekel: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-windows-win64.zip 14:57:23 <Tycoon> <alberth> not any more, perhaps because the ships are loading 14:57:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> Also, whats with !these? :P 14:57:44 <Tycoon> <alberth> shall send them away 14:58:22 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you can watch the "planned" cargo at st brieux docks 14:58:36 <Tycoon> <alberth> it happened when I added a train at the other end, at alencon mines 14:58:42 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> if one of the destinations disappears you know that the link has broken down 14:59:13 <Tycoon> <alberth> will keep an eye on it 15:00:30 <Razaekel> who 15:00:31 <Razaekel> whoa 15:00:36 <Razaekel> what's with all the companies? 15:00:44 <OwenS> Razaekel: It's a competitive server 15:00:55 <Razaekel> ottdcoop.dev? 15:00:56 <Tycoon> *** Razaekel joined the game 15:01:08 <OwenS> Razaekel: Its a patch test server, not necessarily patch test coop :p 15:01:46 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> what's with the longass waterbridge? 15:01:56 <Tycoon> <alberth> Zuuu: welcome to st brieuc 15:02:02 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen's idea of funny :p 15:02:05 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> actually 15:02:09 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> wtf is with this map 15:02:23 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> there's water on the slope 15:02:25 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> I like this map 15:02:49 <Tycoon> <Owen> Razaekel: Streams have been in for ages 15:02:55 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> not that 15:03:02 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> the hills around Le Fons 15:03:05 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yes 15:03:07 <Tycoon> <Owen> Streams 15:03:09 <Tycoon> <Razaekel> the outside slopes are water tiles 15:03:36 <Tycoon> <Owen> WHEE! Le Fons Tunnel in! 15:03:52 <Pirate87> !dl win32 15:03:52 <Tycoon> Pirate87: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-windows-win32.zip 15:04:39 <Tycoon> *** Razaekel has left the game (leaving) 15:05:55 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 15:05:55 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 15:06:56 *** Razaekel has quit IRC 15:06:57 *** Razaekel has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:08:16 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (leaving) 15:10:23 <Tycoon> <alberth> again! 15:10:26 <Tycoon> <Owen> ? 15:10:49 <Tycoon> <alberth> unrouted cargo 15:10:52 <Tycoon> <Owen> heh 15:10:56 <PeterT> What does "c:\Program Files\GnuWin32\bin\grep.exe: writing output: Invalid argument 15:10:56 <PeterT> " mean when compiling? 15:11:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> strange 15:11:12 <OwenS> Something invoked grep wrong 15:11:14 <PeterT> That was a major error in the CF 15:11:25 <OwenS> Hmm... hang on.. old grep 15:11:28 <PeterT> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/logs/windows-win32-error.log 15:11:31 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> obviously that's the cargo meant to brieuc docks 15:14:21 <Tycoon> <Owen> Goods train on move ^^ 15:14:47 <Tycoon> <Owen> Im surprised Vok hasn't joined me in there :s 15:14:53 <Tycoon> <alberth> shouldn't st brieuc forest not get balanced more? 15:15:38 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it is pretty balanced 15:15:41 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> 1:1 15:15:55 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> between ship and trucks 15:16:21 <Tycoon> <alberth> yeah, but ships have capacity left, unlike trucks 15:16:47 <Tycoon> <Owen> Im gonna go bankrupt before my goods train brings in money I fear :S 15:17:13 <Tycoon> <alberth> note: do not load diamonds next to a farm :p 15:17:31 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> the sent number is very small all the time 15:17:47 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> maybe on such short distances the balancing doesn't work 15:18:13 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I guess I have to increase the minimum length for moving averages 15:20:09 <Tycoon> <Owen> Profit! Phew! 15:20:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> And I just got bought XD 15:25:46 <Tycoon> <Owen> Arie: trouble again? 15:26:01 <Tycoon> <Arie> haha no 15:26:07 <Tycoon> <Arie> finally making some money 15:26:11 <Tycoon> <Owen> I was =( 15:26:17 <Tycoon> <Owen> Then I had a long spell with no deliveries =( 15:26:23 <Tycoon> <Arie> but should pay some more attention to my finances 15:26:41 <Tycoon> <Arie> keep them above -1.000.000 a bit better 15:26:44 <Tycoon> <Owen> Then an oil well closed 15:27:12 <Tycoon> <Arie> actually make almost 400k a year with trainrunnings 150k 15:28:23 <Tycoon> <Owen> vok now appears to be having trouble :P 15:29:06 <Tycoon> <Arie> nah downt think so 15:29:28 <Tycoon> <Arie> income 300k, runnings 150k 15:29:34 <Tycoon> <Owen> Well, we are making money, but perpeptually red :p 15:29:40 <Tycoon> <Arie> yep :) 15:30:20 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm not too long before my computer becomes the bottleneck :( 15:30:24 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 15:30:24 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 15:30:26 <Tycoon> <Player> hi 15:30:32 <Tycoon> <Arie> ah no 15:30:35 <Tycoon> <Arie> not that bad 15:30:42 <Tycoon> <Arie> pfew 15:31:21 *** PeterT_ has joined #openttdcoop.dev 15:32:16 <Ammler> !dl 15:32:16 <Tycoon> Ammler: !dl autostart|autottd|autoupdate|deb.etch|deb.lenny|lin|lin64|source|win32|win64|win9x 15:32:33 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> Zuuu? 15:32:36 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> YEp 15:32:38 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> ? 15:32:44 <Tycoon> <RF> mmh, it's because, if your company gets worthier, i can sell the 75% for more money... unluckily i can't own 100%... 15:32:47 <Tycoon> *** Player #1 joined the game 15:32:47 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 15:32:48 <Ammler> don't think, auto* tools work here 15:32:48 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> your train 11 seems quite useless now :) 15:32:52 <Tycoon> <RF> ^ 15:32:55 <Tycoon> <RF> ^^ 15:33:09 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Thanks 15:33:13 <Ammler> !dl lin 15:33:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/g5b3732ce/openttd-cargodist-g5b3732ce-linux-generic-i686.tar.bz2 15:33:24 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> also 15/20 15:33:32 <Tycoon> <Owen> God damn. I build a station next to a factory. Then it closes 15:33:46 <PeterT> That's OpenTTD for you. 15:33:46 <Tycoon> <RF> thats life^^ 15:34:00 <Tycoon> <Owen> Also Vok, do you talk, or is this a faceless conglomorate? :P 15:34:06 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> 15 + 20 are not useless 15:34:17 <Tycoon> <vok> i'M here 15:34:25 <Tycoon> <Owen> Oh, so we do have a face :p 15:34:28 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> It's a oil mixing station :-) 15:34:32 <Tycoon> <vok> ;) 15:34:34 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> ah, ok... 15:35:04 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 15:35:14 <Ammler> why M? 15:35:16 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hmm And alberth is clever, don't transport money as mail :) 15:35:19 <Tycoon> *** Kogut joined the game 15:35:30 <Tycoon> <Coco-Banana-Man> didn't see it is a distant station ^^ 15:35:30 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er joined the game 15:35:32 <Tycoon> <Kogut> hi 15:35:43 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> heh ok 15:35:51 <Tycoon> <Kogut> funny map - that canal across everything 15:35:57 <Tycoon> <alberth> Zuuu: didn't try that one yet :) 15:36:05 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> You didn't? 15:36:11 <Tycoon> <Amm1er> he, what a map :-) 15:36:13 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Maybe it was someone else. 15:36:20 *** PeterT_ has quit IRC 15:36:35 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Indeed, an intresting map. 15:37:31 <Ammler> !url 15:37:32 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/mz 15:37:45 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> fonsinchen: My ship route has been there for quite long now and still it has passengers to "any station". 15:38:03 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> which one is that? 15:38:05 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Long = 2-3 years 15:38:11 <Ammler> KenjiE20: server page doesn't show, which comp is free to join 15:38:13 <Ammler> !info 15:38:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:1(Purple) Company Name: 'Weed Traffick' Year Founded: 1920 Money: -4412 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:17, R:13, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:38:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Zuuu Transport' Year Founded: 1920 Money: 73913 Loan: 500000 Value: 255858 (T:27, R:14, P:0, S:2) protected 15:38:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:3(Pink) Company Name: 'Player Transport' Year Founded: 1923 Money: 61699 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:38:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:4(White) Company Name: 'Kogut Transport' Year Founded: 1938 Money: 99617 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:38:13 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'vok Transport' Year Founded: 1924 Money: 11943 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:14, R:34, P:0, S:0) protected 15:38:15 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:6(Blue) Company Name: 'alberth Transport' Year Founded: 1929 Money: 36118 Loan: 360000 Value: 1 (T:9, R:12, P:0, S:2) protected 15:38:15 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:7(Yellow) Company Name: 'BlueEagle_NL Transport' Year Founded: 1932 Money: 52906 Loan: 30000 Value: 35119 (T:1, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 15:38:17 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:8(Cream) Company Name: 'Coco Co.' Year Founded: 1930 Money: 3058 Loan: 250000 Value: 1 (T:4, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:38:17 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:9(Orange) Company Name: 'Arie Transport' Year Founded: 1933 Money: 13549 Loan: 490000 Value: 1 (T:16, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 15:38:19 <Tycoon> Ammler: #:10(Light Blue) Company Name: 'RF Transport' Year Founded: 1934 Money: -118 Loan: 480000 Value: 1 (T:6, R:17, P:0, S:0) protected 15:38:19 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> I only have one ship route. 15:38:24 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Eg, check at Aubusson 15:38:28 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> (town) 15:38:31 <KenjiE20> Ammler: no, no it doesn't 15:38:43 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> OK, well two ships along such a long route got to cause trouble 15:38:46 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has joined company #1 15:39:02 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> that's just too little 15:39:07 <Tycoon> *** Spike joined the game 15:39:08 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> fonsinchen: would more ships solve it? 15:39:18 <Tycoon> <alberth> try it 15:39:26 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> yes, more frequent service prevents the link from breaking down 15:39:32 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> you can see that in the smallmap 15:39:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> probably atm there is no link between your docks 15:39:59 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm... no rubber tanker/truck? 15:40:05 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ouch 15:40:07 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> There is a link in the small-map 15:40:26 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> But then there is currently one pax with a destination as well. 15:40:26 <Tycoon> <Owen> Two concurrent bankrupcies? 15:40:40 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> I've also just added a third ship. 15:40:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen: Is it just that the rubber trucks havent arrived yet? 15:41:06 <Tycoon> *** Player #1 has left the game (leaving) 15:42:06 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I strongly suspect there has been a point where the link from st brieux to rodez was down 15:42:24 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> at that point all the unrouted pax have appeared 15:42:47 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I should stop debugging and keep my trains running instead ... :) 15:42:57 <Tycoon> <Owen> Ooh, im blind, found it :p 15:43:15 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> :-) @ fonsinchen 15:43:26 <PeterT> Kogut? 15:43:34 <Tycoon> <Kogut> ? 15:43:37 <PeterT> Hey! 15:43:48 <PeterT> Never seen you anywhere but the forums 15:44:12 <Tycoon> <Kogut> Yes, I played citymania some time age 15:44:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> woops, forgot to refit >_< 15:44:56 <Tycoon> <Kogut> And at that time I tried to make AI 15:45:04 <Tycoon> <Kogut> But I failed 15:45:06 <PeterT> You should join IRC 15:45:19 <Tycoon> <Kogut> I should download IRC client 15:45:30 <Tycoon> <Kogut> what is good for windows 7? 15:45:41 <PeterT> XChat 15:45:54 <PeterT> http://www.silverex.org/ 15:45:55 <Webster> Title: X-Chat 2 for Windows (at www.silverex.org) 15:46:38 <PeterT> Kogut: Make sure you don't install any of the scripting plugins though 15:46:47 <PeterT> They are known to cause problems with missing dlls 15:47:39 <KenjiE20> Kogut; 'good' is quite subjected 15:47:45 <KenjiE20> subjective* 15:47:53 <KenjiE20> @wiki irc 15:47:56 <Webster> IRC - #openttdcoop Wiki - http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/Special:Search?go=Go&search=irc 15:48:00 <KenjiE20> ^ has some good suggestion 15:48:55 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has joined company #7 15:48:59 <Tycoon> *** RF has left the game (leaving) 15:50:57 <PeterT> KenjiE20: oh em gee, pidgin isn't there 15:52:46 <KenjiE20> I said 'good suggestions' 15:53:16 <PeterT> Pidgin isn't good/ 15:53:25 <Tycoon> * Zuuu likes pidgin 15:53:27 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has left the game (connection lost) 15:53:27 <KenjiE20> pidgin's IRC is there for completeness sake, by their own addmission, pretty much 15:53:32 <KenjiE20> -d 15:53:46 <KenjiE20> I like pidgin, but the IRC is so basic 15:53:50 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> well, maybe not for IRC, for IRC I use xchat. 15:54:04 <Tycoon> <Owen> KDE! Konversation! Kopete! :-P 15:54:23 <Ammler> OwenS: KDE users don't need such discussions ;-) 15:54:24 <PeterT> That's true 15:54:31 <PeterT> Well, I put it at the bottom of the list 15:54:51 <OwenS> Ammler: True. KDE has, generally, one app which does something and does it well 15:55:05 <OwenS> I think the exception is music, where there is awesome Amarok and crappy JuK 15:57:42 <Tycoon> *** Spike has left the game (leaving) 15:58:18 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm i'm not doing to bad it seems 15:58:32 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> shit 15:58:34 <Tycoon> <Arie> it's just hard to expand your network reasonable 15:59:03 <KenjiE20> OwenS: don't forget buggy Amarok too 15:59:06 <KenjiE20> :P 15:59:37 <OwenS> Amarok buggy? Never had it crash 15:59:49 <Tycoon> <Kogut> what happened with irc? 15:59:57 <KenjiE20> Amarok2 got worse for quite a while 16:00:07 <OwenS> If you're refering to the alphas, sure... 16:00:14 <KenjiE20> even the stab;es 16:00:17 <KenjiE20> stables* 16:01:06 <Ammler> OwenS: what you use for videos? 16:01:16 <OwenS> Ammler: mplayer or VLC 16:01:25 <OwenS> VLC normally, and its a nice Qt app :-) 16:01:32 <Ammler> smplayer 16:01:39 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> When does the hover crafts come? 16:01:43 <KenjiE20> bleh vlc 16:01:43 <PeterT> thanks KenjiE20 for fixing the IRC page 16:01:50 <KenjiE20> broken codecs ftl 16:02:07 <OwenS> KenjiE20: Which codecs? 16:02:23 <KenjiE20> most of them 16:02:46 <Tycoon> <Owen> Again, never had a VLC issue... 16:03:02 <KenjiE20> well perhaps not so much codecs as the filters 16:06:33 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> nooooo, built an expansive road bridge where I wanted a rail bridge :-p 16:07:08 <OwenS> loool 16:07:20 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Thankfully I make enough money that it is not a big problem 16:08:24 <Tycoon> * Owen invests in moar rubber trains 16:10:34 <Tycoon> * Kogut constructed useless bus route {;)} 16:11:00 <Tycoon> <Kogut> what happened with IRC? 16:11:06 <Tycoon> <Owen> Nothing happened? 16:11:11 <KenjiE20> wat? 16:11:24 <Tycoon> <Kogut> X chat says that no one is connnected to openttdcoop channel 16:11:39 <OwenS> #openttdcoop has traffic, #openttdcoop.dev has this traffic 16:11:45 *** TD has joined #openttdcoop.dev 16:11:47 <OwenS> You sure you're on irc.oftc.net? 16:11:47 <KenjiE20> you are in the wrong place 16:12:01 <Tycoon> <Kogut> I followed instructions in wiki 16:12:04 <KenjiE20> oftc -- | Kogut: No such nick/channel 16:12:16 <Tycoon> <Kogut> madjack.2600.net 16:12:27 <Tycoon> <Kogut> and #openttdcoop 16:12:31 <KenjiE20> what? 16:12:53 <OwenS> Where did you read that, cause never have we used "madjack.2600.net" 16:12:58 <KenjiE20> "Channel: #openttdcoop + Server: irc.oftc.net / irc://irc.oftc.net/openttdcoop" 16:15:38 <Tycoon> <Kogut> In X chat I need to choose network. Which one is correct? 16:15:49 <planetmaker> oftc.net 16:15:53 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> irc.oftc.net 16:16:08 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> You might have to create it yourself I don't know if it is in the long list. 16:16:14 <Tycoon> <Kogut> ok 16:16:15 <planetmaker> it's in there 16:16:15 <KenjiE20> it should be 16:16:24 <Zuu> Ok, I've created my own :-) 16:17:16 <Tycoon> <Arie> hey planes! 16:17:16 <KenjiE20> heh, 2600net is essentially a hacker community 16:18:21 <Zuu> I built a plane to replace 2-3 ships because they were so slow. 16:18:40 <Zuu> Oh, Kogut has copied the PAXLink style of building airports :-p 16:18:42 <KenjiE20> also silverx has the single worst website font in history 16:18:54 <OwenS> With a name like 2600 would you expect anything else? 16:19:02 <KenjiE20> yes, Atari 16:19:05 <KenjiE20> :P 16:19:27 <OwenS> Meh. I was thinking 2600Hz. Phone phreaking... 16:19:49 *** TD has quit IRC 16:19:52 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> Back... 16:19:59 <KenjiE20> yea, that's that that networks about though 16:20:14 <KenjiE20> top 2 channels, #2600 and #telepheak 16:20:21 <KenjiE20> +r 16:20:48 <KenjiE20> note to self; never ever go near Fontin or Museo700 fonts 16:20:54 *** BlueEagle_NL has joined #openttdcoop.dev 16:22:18 <KenjiE20> @invite Kogut 16:22:19 <Webster> KenjiE20: The operation succeeded. 16:30:32 <Tycoon> <Arie> diner 16:30:34 <Tycoon> <Arie> later! 16:30:48 <Tycoon> <Arie> if anyone wants to use this company it's OK 16:31:22 <Tycoon> <Arie> i just started building a line from the bottom left to the middle (maize & fruit) to the central factory i'm using 16:31:28 <Tycoon> *** Arie has left the game (connection lost) 16:32:26 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (leaving) 16:33:56 <Tycoon> <Owen> fonsinchen: Still not going well? 16:34:14 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> still too many too weak engines getting stuck everywhere 16:34:33 <Tycoon> <Owen> GAAH train turned arround 16:35:25 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has joined spectators 16:37:01 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has started a new company (#8) 16:41:05 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> ouch 16:41:12 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> wha? 16:41:26 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> seems I'm bankrupt 16:41:29 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> ai... 16:41:31 <Tycoon> <Owen> And it seems we may be too soon 16:42:13 <Tycoon> <alberth> just surviving is a major challenge already :) 16:42:20 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> And there went my zero pound shares in fonsinchens company ... :-p 16:42:26 <Tycoon> <Owen> lol 16:42:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> If you own 75% shares you should get some influence in the company :p 16:43:00 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I shouldn't have crashed 4 trains and I shouldn't have bought the weakest engine al l the time 16:43:30 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Oh, Alberth's shares has droped to zero-value. :-p 16:44:00 <Tycoon> <alberth> too bad I cannot buy them :p 16:44:00 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> What does my shares cost? 16:44:14 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined spectators 16:44:23 <Tycoon> <alberth> 280 000 / 4 16:44:29 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> € 140324 16:45:30 <Tycoon> *** Owen has started a new company (#1) 16:47:06 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> btw, no 90° turns allowed ... 16:47:16 <Tycoon> <Owen> heh 16:48:00 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined spectators 16:48:20 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined company #1 16:48:28 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined spectators 16:48:37 *** Kogut has joined #openttdcoop.dev 16:48:44 <Tycoon> *** Owen has started a new company (#10) 16:48:48 <Tycoon> <Owen> Muhahah 16:48:49 <Kogut> it is correct? 16:48:53 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yes 16:49:19 <Tycoon> <Kogut> finally 16:57:10 <Tycoon> <Kogut> Owen? 16:57:32 <Tycoon> <Kogut> Can you improve bridge? 16:57:52 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 16:57:52 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 16:58:16 <Tycoon> *** Player has changed his/her name to DJ Nekkid 16:58:22 <Tycoon> <Kogut> HI 16:58:24 <Tycoon> <DJ Nekkid> much better :P 16:58:25 <BlueEagle_NL> hi DJ 16:58:33 <Tycoon> <Kogut> 1 16:58:55 <Tycoon> <DJ Nekkid> this isnt coop is it? :P 16:59:25 <Tycoon> *** DJ Nekkid has left the game (leaving) 17:00:53 <Tycoon> *** DJ Nekkid joined the game 17:01:01 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> back again, DJ? 17:01:07 <Tycoon> <BlueEagle_NL> ;) 17:01:25 <Tycoon> <DJ Nekkid> any company to join? 17:01:39 <Tycoon> <Kogut> mine is absolutely stupid 17:02:05 <Tycoon> *** Owen has left the game (connection lost) 17:02:14 <Tycoon> <alberth> want to have mine? 17:02:27 *** BlueEagle_NL has left #openttdcoop.dev 17:02:40 <Tycoon> <DJ Nekkid> nah... footballmatch currently ... 17:02:52 <Tycoon> <DJ Nekkid> were just checking in :) 17:02:58 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Oh, someone bought a company with nothing but a loan and no cash. :-) 17:03:20 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> sounds stupid 17:03:39 <Tycoon> *** DJ Nekkid has left the game (leaving) 17:03:45 <Tycoon> <alberth> oeh taking a bridge at 1km/h :) 17:04:00 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> underpowered engine 17:04:06 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> use a bigger one 17:04:44 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> that ED1 is really weak 17:05:28 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has started a new company (#1) 17:11:13 <Tycoon> *** Fab joined the game 17:11:26 <Tycoon> <Fab> Hi 17:11:32 <Tycoon> <alberth> hai 17:11:44 <Tycoon> <Kogut> hi 17:13:16 <Tycoon> <Fab> is it possible to disp link of player (as a spectator) ? 17:13:35 <Tycoon> <Fab> I mean in the map, you know the cargo stuff 17:14:36 <PeterT> Hey Kogut 17:14:43 <PeterT> I see you got a client 17:14:46 <Kogut> yes 17:15:09 <PeterT> why are you in #ps.openttdcoop.org? 17:15:15 <Kogut> i play for frist time since 10 months 17:15:31 <Kogut> .dev 17:16:01 <PeterT> Yes, but why are you in #ps.openttdcoop.org? 17:16:22 <Kogut> I don't know 17:16:37 <Zuu> PeterT: Do you have a problem with people being in chanels? ;-) 17:16:50 <Kogut> no 17:16:51 <PeterT> yes, huge problem 17:16:55 <Kogut> ? 17:17:05 <PeterT> Kogut: It's a joke 17:17:13 <Tycoon> <alberth> PeterT wants a channel all for himself :) 17:17:21 <PeterT> lol 17:17:39 <planetmaker> I guess the point is: #ps.openttdcoop.org is... not an official #openttdcoop channel :-) 17:17:49 <planetmaker> but well... who cares :-) 17:17:53 <Tycoon> *** Fab has started a new company (#11) 17:17:59 <planetmaker> !info 17:17:59 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:1(Pale Green) Company Name: 'fonsinchen Transport' Year Founded: 1944 Money: 54420 Loan: 340000 Value: 1 (T:3, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:17:59 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Zuuu Transport' Year Founded: 1920 Money: -1002 Loan: 500000 Value: 164803 (T:33, R:14, P:1, S:1) protected 17:18:00 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:3(Pink) Company Name: 'Player Transport' Year Founded: 1923 Money: 45791 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:18:00 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:4(White) Company Name: 'Random stuff' Year Founded: 1938 Money: 137514 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:8, R:33, P:3, S:0) unprotected 17:18:00 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'vok Transport' Year Founded: 1924 Money: 31291 Loan: 400000 Value: 438785 (T:24, R:29, P:0, S:0) protected 17:18:01 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:6(Blue) Company Name: 'alberth Transport' Year Founded: 1929 Money: 73010 Loan: 300000 Value: 151422 (T:19, R:12, P:0, S:2) protected 17:18:01 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:7(Light Blue) Company Name: 'BlueEagle_NL Transport' Year Founded: 1932 Money: 21224 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:13, R:3, P:1, S:3) protected 17:18:03 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:8(Brown) Company Name: 'Airline' Year Founded: 1942 Money: 3648 Loan: 450000 Value: 1 (T:5, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 17:18:03 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:9(Orange) Company Name: 'Arie Transport' Year Founded: 1933 Money: 122227 Loan: 440000 Value: 1 (T:20, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:18:05 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:10(Purple) Company Name: 'Adams & Co.' Year Founded: 1943 Money: 88933 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:2, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 17:18:05 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:11(Grey) Company Name: 'Fab Transport' Year Founded: 1945 Money: 100000 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected 17:18:07 <planetmaker> !playercount 17:18:07 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Number of players: 7 17:18:12 <PeterT> What fun, Tycoon... 17:18:15 <planetmaker> hm... 11 companies and 7 players 17:18:20 <KenjiE20> alberth; he had one, it was empty :) 17:18:20 <PeterT> !players 17:18:21 <Tycoon> <Kogut> white 17:18:23 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 82 (Grey) is Fab, in company 11 (Fab Transport) 17:18:23 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 4 (Pale Green) is fonsinchen, in company 1 (fonsinchen Transport) 17:18:23 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 17 (Green) is vok, in company 5 (vok Transport) 17:18:23 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 9 (Red) is Zuuu, in company 2 (Zuuu Transport) 17:18:23 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 50 (Light Blue) is BlueEagle_NL, in company 7 (BlueEagle_NL Transport) 17:18:25 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 41 (Blue) is alberth, in company 6 (alberth Transport) 17:18:25 <Tycoon> PeterT: Client 70 (Brown) is Kogut, in company 8 (Airline) 17:18:27 <Tycoon> <Kogut> is dead 17:18:30 <Tycoon> <Kogut> and better than current 17:18:59 <Ammler> PeterT: why do you add pidgin, if you don't use it yourself? 17:19:10 <PeterT> KenjiE20: Remember that? Yeah, it has three servers and a supybot now. And some other users 17:19:23 <PeterT> Ammler: Because it's a useful client 17:19:49 <Ammler> well, the fact you don't use it doesn't support that statement 17:20:21 <Ammler> the homepage tells it is a IM client 17:20:45 <Zuu> It supports IRC, but myself I don't use it for that. 17:20:47 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:20:56 <Pe1erT> I have it installed 17:21:17 <Ammler> kopete could irc too 17:21:26 <OwenS> Indeed it can 17:21:32 <Ammler> a lot clients can do it, but that page tries to recommend "good" clients 17:21:54 <OwenS> Oh no it cant, theyve removed that 17:22:03 <Pe1erT> I would call this a good client 17:22:19 *** kenji has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:22:25 <kenji> uch 17:22:32 <kenji> I forgot how annoying this is 17:22:35 *** kenji has left #openttdcoop.dev 17:22:43 <Ammler> was this kopete? 17:22:47 <Ammler> or pidgin? 17:22:48 <KenjiE20> pidgin 17:23:00 <KenjiE20> you connect, but get nothing 17:23:05 <Pe1erT> It's an easy-to-use client 17:23:09 <KenjiE20> so you have to start a convo window up 17:23:27 <Pe1erT> KenjiE20: You have to press Ctrl + C 17:23:31 <Tycoon> <alberth> setting up the first connection is annoying, I think 17:23:32 <Pe1erT> or Buddies -> Start a chat 17:23:39 <Pe1erT> Alberth: Indeed 17:23:43 <Ammler> PeterT: I disagree, I might also get the feeling, that irc is like IM 17:23:47 <KenjiE20> and you still don't get a server window 17:23:59 <Ammler> and then user start to query... 17:24:02 <KenjiE20> and every server service becomes a chat 17:24:06 <KenjiE20> it's not great 17:24:33 <KenjiE20> I'd end up with about 40 tabs like that 17:26:18 *** Pe1erT has left #openttdcoop.dev 17:26:45 *** Pe1erT has joined #openttdcoop.dev 17:26:57 *** Pe1erT has left #openttdcoop.dev 17:29:00 <Tycoon> <Kogut> finally, second line 17:30:24 <Ammler> [19:21] <OwenS> Oh no it cant, theyve removed that <-- he, maybe they found out, how stupid it is to use kopete for irc, if you have konversation 17:30:45 <PeterT> Ugh, koversation... 17:31:03 <PeterT> It's a good neat client but the alerts suck ass 17:31:25 <Ammler> I never really tried KDE apps on windows 17:31:48 <PeterT> It's not on Windows 17:31:58 <PeterT> *I'm not talking about Konversation on Windows 17:32:10 <Ammler> which alerts? 17:32:18 <Tycoon> *** RF joined the game 17:32:27 <PeterT> Highlights, PMs 17:32:36 <Ammler> eveything configureable 17:32:43 <PeterT> Topic changes (the whole reason I join #openttd.notice) 17:32:52 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 17:33:00 <Tycoon> *** Arie joined the game 17:33:13 <PeterT> !playercount 17:33:13 <Tycoon> PeterT: Number of players: 9 17:33:16 <Ammler> on such channels, I disable highlights 17:39:23 <PeterT> KenjiE20: http://www.weechat.org/media/images/screenshots/medium/weechat_2009-07-06_bonzodog.png <-- You're in the screenshot :-D 17:39:31 <Tycoon> *** vok has left the game (leaving) 17:39:32 <PeterT> I guess you are pretty popular in #weechat 17:40:43 <PeterT> !tell Paul2 !revision 17:40:44 <Tycoon> PeterT: unknown command "revision" 17:41:10 <Paul2> !version 17:41:10 <Tycoon> Paul2: Autopilot AP+ 3.0 Beta (r747M) 17:41:14 <Paul2> ahhh 17:41:24 <PeterT> No, !revision 17:41:28 <Paul2> !revision 17:41:28 <Tycoon> Paul2: Game version is g5b3732ceM-cargodist 17:41:31 <PeterT> There 17:50:05 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 17:50:05 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 17:53:55 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmmm bummer 17:54:01 <Tycoon> <Arie> comming back from dinner 17:54:15 <Tycoon> <Arie> seeing that my profit changed to being a loss 17:54:37 <Tycoon> <alberth> you can take over my company if you want 17:54:43 <Tycoon> <Arie> apperantly i should have protected the factory important to my little economy better :( 17:55:43 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 17:56:09 <Tycoon> <Arie> hmm no thanks 17:56:23 <Tycoon> <Arie> have to do some stuff for my study anyways 17:56:29 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 17:56:31 <Tycoon> <alberth> ok 17:56:54 <Tycoon> <Arie> i'll try to fix it, but probobly 'll be bankrupt next year 17:57:02 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 17:57:02 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 17:58:17 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 17:58:39 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 17:58:52 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 17:59:01 <Tycoon> <Arie> btw: where what is the "break van"'s purpse 17:59:15 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Oh, I could actually buy Arie transport, but it seems to not make profit and my own profit margin needs some work.. 17:59:21 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> it looks "realistic" 17:59:30 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook joined the game 17:59:39 <PeterT> !playercount 17:59:40 <Tycoon> PeterT: Number of players: 9 17:59:42 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook has joined spectators 17:59:59 <Tycoon> <Arie> well, i can't seem to figure out where it went wrong, probably because not all food produced by that factory is going to my own trains 18:00:09 <Tycoon> <Arie> but i do not have the money to fix that 18:00:41 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 18:00:43 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I'm also done with. This time I've bought too powerful trains 18:00:47 <Tycoon> * fonsinchen is a noob 18:00:49 <Tycoon> <Arie> bummer for the company which destroyed my profits: if i'm bankrupt, the food factory will stop producing food as my trains don't deliver anymore 18:00:55 <Tycoon> <Arie> ok bye! 18:01:01 <Tycoon> <alberth> bye 18:01:04 <Tycoon> <Arie> i'm bankrupt :( 18:01:06 <Tycoon> <Fab> bye 18:01:16 <Tycoon> <Tsjook> bye 18:01:19 <Tycoon> <Kogut> bye 18:01:29 <Tycoon> *** Arie has left the game (leaving) 18:01:56 <Tycoon> *** Owen joined the game 18:02:03 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> I don't know if that was a good idea ... 18:02:11 <Tycoon> <alberth> neither do i 18:02:34 <Tycoon> <Owen> Oh dear god Le Fons is getting ridiculous 18:02:43 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook has left the game (connection lost) 18:04:03 <Tycoon> <Kogut> wtf? 18:04:09 <Tycoon> <Kogut> crash with PBS 18:04:19 <Tycoon> <Owen> You fiddled with a PBS block. dont do that 18:04:19 <Tycoon> <Kogut> and withou ignore signals 18:04:25 <Tycoon> <RF> a very rare spectacle 18:04:39 <Tycoon> <Kogut> fiddled=? 18:04:46 <Tycoon> <Owen> =modified 18:04:52 <Tycoon> <Kogut> ok 18:05:02 <Tycoon> <Kogut> now it should be ok? 18:05:26 <Tycoon> <Owen> Yes 18:06:01 <Tycoon> <alberth> can I simply quit, or should I do something else first? 18:06:11 <Tycoon> <Owen> Set a company password maybe? 18:06:19 <Tycoon> <alberth> it has one 18:06:29 <Tycoon> <Owen> Then you should be fine 18:06:42 *** Yexo has quit IRC 18:06:43 <Tycoon> <alberth> ok, have fun everybody 18:06:49 <Tycoon> <alberth> bye 18:06:58 *** Yexo has joined #openttdcoop.dev 18:06:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Yexo 18:07:11 <Tycoon> <Kogut> bye 18:07:13 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> bye 18:07:17 <Tycoon> <RF> bye 18:07:18 <PeterT> see ya 18:07:29 <Tycoon> *** alberth has left the game (connection lost) 18:09:06 <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL has left the game (desync error) 18:09:08 <Tycoon> *** Fab has left the game (desync error) 18:09:08 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (desync error) 18:09:12 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (desync error) 18:09:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> Ooh 18:09:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> Not good 18:09:28 <Tycoon> *** Kogut joined the game 18:09:32 <Tycoon> <Kogut> WTF? 18:09:40 <PeterT> Big desync 18:09:40 <Tycoon> <Owen> Game desynchronized 18:09:40 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 18:09:50 <PeterT> question is, why didn't everyone desycn 18:09:52 <PeterT> *desync 18:10:14 <Tycoon> <Owen> Everyone, what platform? 18:10:25 <Tycoon> <Kogut> windows 7 18:10:27 <Tycoon> <Kogut> 32 18:10:51 <planetmaker> !players 18:10:53 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 98 (Brown) is Kogut, in company 8 (Airline) 18:10:53 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 4 (Blue) is fonsinchen, in company 6 (alberth Transport) 18:10:53 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 100 (Red) is Zuuu, in company 2 (Zuuu Transport) 18:10:53 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 84 (Yellow) is RF, in company 12 (RF Transport) 18:10:54 <Tycoon> planetmaker: Client 96 (Purple) is Owen, in company 10 (Adams & Co.) 18:10:55 <Tycoon> <Owen> Zuuu, fab, BlueEagle? 18:10:58 <Tycoon> <RF> Windows xp, 32 (even though i stood synced...) 18:11:04 <planetmaker> not everyone 18:11:12 <Tycoon> <Owen> Hmm, so that probably eliminates 32-bit or platform issue 18:11:18 <Tycoon> *** Owen has left the game (wrong company in DoCommand) 18:11:18 <Tycoon> *** Owen has left the game (connection lost) 18:11:23 <OwenS> O_O 18:11:34 <PeterT> ... 18:11:37 <Tycoon> *** Owen joined the game 18:12:19 <planetmaker> Owen must be a cheatah ;-) 18:12:21 <Tycoon> <Kogut> shit 18:12:39 <OwenS> planetmaker: Nah, I'm a tiger 18:13:07 <PeterT> OwenS: I'm guessing you don't have CopyPaste installed Client-side? 18:13:13 <Tycoon> <Owen> I notice the bits that Vok inherited from me broke 18:13:21 <OwenS> PeterT: No. I downloaded a binary 18:14:30 <Tycoon> <Kogut> not so bad 18:15:38 <Tycoon> *** RF has left the game (leaving) 18:19:08 <Tycoon> *** Fab joined the game 18:21:08 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined spectators 18:21:36 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined company #10 18:25:47 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook joined the game 18:27:03 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook has joined company #13 18:35:53 <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL joined the game 18:36:13 <Tycoon> *** RF joined the game 18:36:50 <Tycoon> *** BlueEagle_NL has left the game (connection lost) 18:37:02 <Tycoon> *** RF has left the game (leaving) 18:37:21 <Tycoon> <Fab> I need help 18:37:41 <Tycoon> <Kogut> with?\ 18:37:50 <Tycoon> <Fab> can anybody tell me why my Train3 is not loading 18:37:54 <Tycoon> *** RF joined the game 18:38:02 <Tycoon> <Fab> it still at 0% 18:38:14 <Tycoon> <Fab> it's supposed to load goods, no ? 18:38:32 <Tycoon> <Tsjook> Is it going to a place that accepts goods? 18:38:48 <Tycoon> <Kogut> yes 18:38:50 <Tycoon> <Tsjook> If yes, is that place competing with other places? 18:38:50 <Tycoon> <Fab> I will transfer (later) 18:39:09 <Tycoon> <Kogut> it is factory without incoming cargo 18:39:37 <Tycoon> <Fab> arggg!!! I counted on that to earn a litle money 18:39:43 <Tycoon> <Fab> I lost my investment 18:41:30 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 18:42:37 <Tycoon> *** Roujin joined the game 18:42:40 <Tycoon> <Kogut> hi 18:42:44 <Tycoon> <Owen> hi 18:42:50 <Tycoon> <Fab> hi 18:42:56 <Tycoon> <Roujin> cheers 18:43:27 <Tycoon> <Owen> Voks northern most section is ... broken :p 18:43:36 <Tycoon> <Roujin> where? 18:43:46 <Tycoon> <Owen> The bits up to Le Fons 18:44:01 <Tycoon> <Owen> That he bought off of me :p 18:44:29 <Tycoon> <Kogut> is anyone interested in company? 18:44:47 <Tycoon> <Owen> Why? Going bankrupt? :p 18:44:58 <Tycoon> <Kogut> no, going to church 18:45:15 <Tycoon> <Roujin> hmm, what's broken there? 18:45:22 <Tycoon> <Roujin> can't really see anything wrong 18:45:32 <Tycoon> <Owen> Trains keep reversing waiting to go over the bridge :p 18:45:38 <Tycoon> <Kogut> :) I am the best! 18:46:06 <Tycoon> <Owen> And then as its PBS it jams 18:46:16 <Tycoon> *** Roujin has left the game (connection lost) 18:46:48 <Tycoon> *** Roujin joined the game 18:47:06 <Tycoon> *** Roujin has left the game (connection lost) 18:47:28 <Tycoon> *** Roujin joined the game 18:50:28 <Tycoon> <Roujin> there, now it should be better 18:56:16 <Tycoon> <Owen> fuuuuuuuu 18:56:19 <Tycoon> <Owen> I just comitted suicide 18:56:27 <Tycoon> <Owen> Apparently the edge of the map is considered to be water 18:56:49 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined spectators 18:57:13 <Tycoon> *** Owen has joined company #10 18:57:23 <Tycoon> *** Owen has left the game (connection lost) 18:59:38 <Tycoon> <Kogut> my new route is one big fail 19:02:08 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> OK, I'm off for a while 19:02:18 <Tycoon> <fonsinchen> maybe someone wants to take over ... 19:04:11 <Tycoon> *** Roujin has left the game (leaving) 19:06:15 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #1 19:06:48 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (desync error) 19:06:49 <Tycoon> *** Fab has left the game (desync error) 19:06:52 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (connection lost) 19:06:53 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (desync error) 19:06:53 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook has left the game (desync error) 19:06:53 <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:07:03 <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:07:05 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 19:07:07 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (connection lost) 19:07:17 <Tycoon> *** Kogut joined the game 19:07:23 <Tycoon> *** Fab joined the game 19:07:35 <Tycoon> <RF> LOL I am the only one who did not ... ? 19:07:36 <planetmaker> http://mz.openttdcoop.org/cargodist/save/autosave/ <-- fonsinchen 19:07:44 <planetmaker> :-O 19:08:10 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, oh, and right now ^ 19:08:24 <Kogut> ?fonssinchen=? 19:08:27 <fonsinchen> I guess I have some debugging to do 19:08:28 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:08:35 <Kogut> ;) 19:08:38 <Kogut> player 19:08:44 <Kogut> not sth useful 19:09:08 <Kogut> fonso == fonssinchen? 19:09:40 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined spectators 19:09:48 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:10:25 <fonsinchen> Oh, there was another one at 14:00 19:10:29 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #1 19:10:57 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:10:59 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined spectators 19:11:04 <Tycoon> *** RF has started a new company (#4) 19:11:16 *** Progman has joined #openttdcoop.dev 19:11:42 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:12:02 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:12:18 <Tycoon> <Kogut> bye 19:12:37 <Tycoon> <Fab> bye 19:12:51 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (connection lost) 19:13:40 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:14:50 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 19:15:45 <fonsinchen> What is that company "Bigwig &co"? 19:15:53 <fonsinchen> Sounds like an AI ... 19:16:03 <planetmaker> fonsinchen, you might want to set an IRC highlight to "desync" ;-) 19:16:13 <Ammler> hehe 19:16:14 <planetmaker> !info 19:16:14 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:1(Purple) Company Name: 'Bigwig & Co.' Year Founded: 1950 Money: -37244 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:7, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:14 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:2(Red) Company Name: 'Zuuu Transport' Year Founded: 1920 Money: 30430 Loan: 500000 Value: 339873 (T:36, R:25, P:1, S:1) protected 19:16:14 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:3(Pink) Company Name: 'Player Transport' Year Founded: 1923 Money: 27199 Loan: 100000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:14 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:4(Dark Blue) Company Name: '^^' Year Founded: 1953 Money: 9533 Loan: 10000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:14 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:5(Green) Company Name: 'vok Transport' Year Founded: 1924 Money: 170874 Loan: 0 Value: 517847 (T:23, R:29, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:15 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:6(Blue) Company Name: 'alberth Transport' Year Founded: 1929 Money: 118479 Loan: 220000 Value: 292926 (T:29, R:16, P:0, S:2) unprotected 19:16:15 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:7(Light Blue) Company Name: 'BlueEagle_NL Transport' Year Founded: 1932 Money: 86007 Loan: 490000 Value: 1 (T:12, R:6, P:2, S:2) unprotected 19:16:17 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:8(Brown) Company Name: 'Airline' Year Founded: 1942 Money: 203092 Loan: 0 Value: 1224053 (T:32, R:0, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:17 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:11(White) Company Name: 'Fab Transport' Year Founded: 1945 Money: 2869 Loan: 360000 Value: 1 (T:4, R:8, P:4, S:0) unprotected 19:16:19 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:12(Yellow) Company Name: 'RF Transport' Year Founded: 1946 Money: -1050 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:6, R:47, P:3, S:0) protected 19:16:19 <Tycoon> planetmaker: #:13(Cream) Company Name: 'Tsjook Unlimited' Year Founded: 1947 Money: 365155 Loan: 500000 Value: 1 (T:0, R:9, P:0, S:0) unprotected 19:16:34 <Ammler> !url might also be helpful 19:16:34 <Tycoon> Ammler: http://www.openttdcoop.org/servers/mz 19:16:39 <Tycoon> <RF> mmh, according to the things built, you can think its an AI^ 19:17:00 <fonsinchen> That could explain the desync, too. 19:17:15 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:17:18 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook joined the game 19:17:34 <Tycoon> *** Tsjook has left the game (connection lost) 19:18:09 <Tycoon> *** Arie joined the game 19:18:38 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:18:58 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:20:08 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (connection lost) 19:20:27 *** Kogut has quit IRC 19:21:25 <Tycoon> *** Arie has left the game (leaving) 19:22:27 <OwenS> fonsinchen: Or someone who already had a company created a new one 19:23:03 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:23:21 <planetmaker> we don't have AIs... 19:23:29 <planetmaker> or shouldn't have. 19:27:47 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 19:31:04 <planetmaker> folks, mind if I restart the server (not the game) right now? I'd like to turn on desync debugging 19:31:23 <planetmaker> !save 19:31:23 <Tycoon> Saving game... 19:31:27 <Tycoon> <RF> if it has to be done^ 19:31:33 <Zuu> Sure go ahead 19:31:35 <planetmaker> !exit 19:31:42 <planetmaker> !rcon exit 19:31:42 <Tycoon> Server has exited 19:31:42 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 19:31:57 <PeterT> he? 19:32:12 <PeterT> oh, backlog 19:34:04 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 19:34:04 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 19:34:04 <Tycoon> Loading default savegame 19:34:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 19:34:05 *** Tycoon has quit IRC 19:34:37 *** Tycoon has joined #openttdcoop.dev 19:34:37 <Tycoon> Autopilot engaged 19:34:37 <Tycoon> Loading default savegame 19:34:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Tycoon 19:34:44 <planetmaker> hm... then it doesn't work with ap+ :-( 19:35:21 <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:35:22 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 19:35:24 <Tycoon> *** RF joined the game 19:35:27 <Ammler> planetmaker: ap+ does disalbe debug output 19:35:35 <Ammler> you might comment out that line 19:35:53 <planetmaker> hm. Dunno where :-) 19:36:03 <planetmaker> I tried to modify the command line for openttd, but that failed 19:36:57 <Ammler> ::ap::game::console "debug_level \"[::ap::config::get autopilot debug_level]\"\r" 19:37:11 <Ammler> you need to set debug_level in the cfg 19:37:37 <planetmaker> interesting 19:38:13 <Ammler> open in screen 2 19:38:22 <planetmaker> yeah :-) 19:39:18 <planetmaker> http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTDDevBlackBook/Network/Desync_debugging <-- though that tells otherwise, Ammler :-) 19:39:32 <PeterT> screen allows multiple clients? interesting... 19:39:51 <planetmaker> PeterT, that's the whole point 19:40:08 <planetmaker> (and that you can log off without closing things) 19:40:11 <PeterT> I thought it was so you can run programs even when you disconnect 19:40:55 <OwenS> planetmaker: And you can open multiple things over one connection 19:41:12 <Ammler> planetmaker: tell what otherwise? 19:41:39 <planetmaker> Compile the server with ./configure --enable-desync-debug=1 and let one client try to desync. 19:41:41 <Ammler> I have actually no idea, how you configure it 19:41:48 <Ammler> that is for compiling 19:42:00 <planetmaker> yes, but it might make sense, no? 19:42:17 <Ammler> but I assume, you have done that already? 19:42:22 <planetmaker> well. Actually not. We first need it reproducable 19:42:24 <Ammler> nothing to do with ap+ 19:42:32 <Tycoon> <RF> is it only me or does any other one have a "dia-show"? 19:42:32 <planetmaker> _I_ didn't compile anything. 19:42:52 <planetmaker> That was all fonsinchens doing 19:43:07 * Ammler has never done successfully desync debugging 19:43:22 <Ammler> so I am no expert :-P 19:43:26 * planetmaker neither 19:43:42 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> "dia-show"? 19:43:50 <Ammler> lags 19:43:57 * planetmaker is off for dinner 19:44:03 <Ammler> än guete 19:44:13 <Ammler> quite late thought 19:44:22 <PeterT> planetmaker: enjoy 19:44:24 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> It lags a little bit, and sometimes I get a larger lag when I'm scrolling around. 19:44:37 <PeterT> That's CargoDist for ya 19:44:44 <Tycoon> <RF> yes, i ment leags^^ 19:45:32 <Ammler> afaik, you can do desync debug also client side 19:45:58 <PeterT> As said in the wiki link planetmaker posted 19:46:22 <PeterT> !ip 19:46:22 <Tycoon> PeterT: mz.openttdcoop.org:3999 19:47:09 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er joined the game 19:47:28 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:48:08 <Tycoon> *** Peter joined the game 19:48:40 <Tycoon> <Peter> Ammler: That name bug is still present 19:48:46 <Tycoon> <Peter> {#openttdcoop.dev} 19:48:57 <Ammler> yes 19:49:08 <Ammler> it is a bug with new tcl 19:49:20 <OwenS> Out of curiosity, what server is mz.? The "old" one? 19:49:20 <Ammler> we don't have a fix 19:49:21 <PeterT> can it be fixed? 19:49:26 <PeterT> ah 19:49:33 <PeterT> mz = member zone 19:49:37 <Ammler> yes 19:49:46 <OwenS> PeterT: Im aware of that. I meant which physical server 19:49:49 <Ammler> the same server as the devzone 19:49:55 <Tycoon> *** Peter has left the game (leaving) 19:49:58 <Ammler> so it can get oom :-) 19:50:36 <Ammler> sponsored by pm and me 19:51:32 <OwenS> 145.156.75.62.in-addr.arpa. 2560 IN SOA ptr1.intergenia.de. hostmaster.ptr1.intergenia.de. 2009111401 40000 20000 1500000 86400 <-- Germany I see 19:53:04 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:53:32 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:53:37 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #12 19:53:49 <Tycoon> *** RF has joined company #4 19:55:47 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (desync error) 19:55:47 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has left the game (desync error) 19:55:48 <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players) 19:56:01 <Tycoon> *** Game unpaused (not enough players) 19:56:01 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu joined the game 19:56:42 <Ammler> hmm 19:57:01 <PeterT> Yikes 19:57:35 <Ammler> OwenS: server4you.de vserver 19:58:13 <OwenS> And yet hes not here :s 19:59:24 <OwenS> Ugh... Virtuozzo 19:59:53 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er joined the game 20:00:26 <OwenS> (At least, thats what I guess.. I don't speak german :P ) 20:01:35 <OwenS> (You see, the thing with Virtuozzo, when they say "1GB of RAM", it could actually be "256MB of RAM and 768MB of host swap") 20:02:31 <Ammler> we have 750MB of RAM and the rest of the 2gig is such host swap 20:03:15 <Ammler> but cpu power is quite awesome 20:03:34 <Ammler> so for gaming or compiling, it is nice 20:03:38 <OwenS> Hmm, true, I've never benchmarked my Linode's CPU 20:04:13 <Ammler> but we might switch to a real dedicated server next fee period 20:07:12 <OwenS> How much more would it be? 20:08:08 <planetmaker> 5 .. 10€ / months or so 20:08:25 <OwenS> Hmm... Not too bad then 20:08:45 <planetmaker> Root servers sell for 40€ / month upward 20:08:58 <OwenS> Unfortunately for me my hosting costs have increast proportionally to the pounds decline... 20:09:08 <planetmaker> :-D 20:09:23 <OwenS> Im paying 20:09:27 <OwenS> ~33% more now 20:09:46 <planetmaker> :-( 20:15:44 <Tycoon> *** Progman joined the game 20:17:56 <Tycoon> *** Amm1er has left the game (leaving) 20:18:15 <Ammler> no desync ^ 20:18:16 <Tycoon> *** Progman has left the game (connection lost) 20:18:36 <Ammler> !players 20:18:38 <Tycoon> Ammler: Client 4 (Yellow) is RF, in company 4 (^^) 20:18:38 <Tycoon> Ammler: Client 13 (Red) is Zuuu, in company 2 (Zuuu Transport) 20:19:44 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (received strange packet) 20:19:44 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (connection lost) 20:19:46 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 20:20:06 <Coco-Banana-Man> ..? 20:20:20 <Coco-Banana-Man> what was wrong now? 20:20:29 <PeterT> received strange packet 20:20:51 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man joined the game 20:21:46 <planetmaker> wow. strange packets. packets as wrong company. All kind of weired messages today 20:22:11 <PeterT> definately not ready for trunk 20:22:23 <PeterT> shall I post this in the CargoDist topic, or will someone remind him tommorow? 20:26:42 <Tycoon> *** Fab joined the game 20:26:43 <planetmaker> can be anything. could also be a network error. That's what the message is for. 20:27:04 <planetmaker> without package logs it's not worth much... 20:27:54 <planetmaker> Maybe all this is part of the desync. Who knows. 20:29:02 <Tycoon> *** RF has left the game (leaving) 20:34:32 <Tycoon> *** Player joined the game 20:34:33 <Webster> Player, please change your in game nick 20:39:22 *** Kogut has joined #openttdcoop.dev 20:39:43 <Tycoon> *** Kogut joined the game 20:39:59 <Tycoon> *** Fab has left the game (leaving) 20:40:07 <Tycoon> <Kogut> hi 20:40:21 <Tycoon> <Kogut> 5M money ;) 20:40:40 <PeterT> hey Kogut 20:41:02 <Tycoon> *** Player has left the game (connection lost) 20:43:00 <Tycoon> *** xahodo joined the game 20:44:58 <Tycoon> <xahodo> Hello 20:45:01 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Hello 20:45:29 <PeterT> hi xahodo 20:46:31 <Tycoon> <xahodo> Can I join some company to (hopefully) help it out a bit? 20:46:41 <Tycoon> <Kogut> yes 20:46:43 <PeterT> hehe :-) 20:50:34 <Tycoon> *** Coco-Banana-Man has left the game (leaving) 20:54:14 *** xahodo has joined #openttdcoop.dev 20:59:30 <Tycoon> *** Fab joined the game 20:59:46 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Fab: Do you need the road bit next to your HQ? 21:00:06 <Tycoon> <Fab> hum, wait a sec 21:00:32 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Thanks 21:00:32 <Tycoon> <Fab> removed 21:01:10 <Tycoon> *** xahodo has started a new company (#9) 21:02:26 <Tycoon> *** Gathers joined the game 21:03:46 <Zuu> If you buy out someone, do you get their loan limit added to your loan limit? 21:07:22 <planetmaker> Zuu: afaik not. But you get their debt unharmed by your loan limit 21:09:39 <Tycoon> *** Kogut has left the game (connection lost) 21:14:23 <Tycoon> *** Gathers has left the game (leaving) 21:21:00 *** Kogut has quit IRC 21:28:46 <Tycoon> *** Arie joined the game 21:31:38 <Tycoon> *** Arie has left the game (leaving) 21:35:54 <OwenS> When I looked at companies finances after getting bought out, they seemed to have no higher than max loan 21:50:44 <Zuu> Not let's hope my rubber train can climb the hill :-) 21:51:09 <Zuu> A third engine would be good :-) 21:53:04 *** fonsinchen has joined #openttdcoop.dev 21:53:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v fonsinchen 21:57:18 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen joined the game 22:01:11 <Zuu> lol, an heliport get into the normal holding pattern of the small airport if the runway is bussy :-p 22:01:17 <Zuu> helicopter* 22:01:47 <fonsinchen> have there been more desyncs while I was away? 22:02:06 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> I think there was 2 in total (maybe 3) 22:02:17 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Not sure how many you've seen. 22:02:35 <fonsinchen> I've seen one around 8 and one around 9 22:03:22 <fonsinchen> and it seems there was one around 2 22:03:44 <fonsinchen> This will be hard to reproduce 22:03:52 <Tycoon> <Fab> hey ?! thereare no plan to transport rubber ?! 22:04:14 <PeterT> yes, fonsinchen 22:04:17 <PeterT> @logs 22:04:17 <Webster> Logs: http://hyru.ath.cx:60080/~kenji/ottdcoop/ 22:04:55 <Tycoon> <Fab> I spent 100k to buy two airport for that... please tell me how I can refit to rubber ? which plane ? 22:10:49 <Zuu> If it is not available as an option in the refit menu I don't think there is any aircrafts that accept rubber. 22:11:25 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> In the buy menu you see which cargos the aircrafts can be refited to. 22:11:39 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> If there is no aircraft that can be refited to rubber, then you can't do that. 22:12:11 <fonsinchen> so the desyncs all started when alberth left and I took over his company 22:12:19 <fonsinchen> very interesting ... 22:12:37 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> You might note that aircrafts don't take the most heavy type of cargo. 22:12:48 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> fonsinchen: So it's all your fault ;-) 22:13:15 <Tycoon> <Fab> life is hard 22:13:45 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> In the meanwhile I made 150 000 during our talk :-) 22:16:06 <fonsinchen> even more interestingly that was about 1 Minute after he bought my company. 22:16:30 <fonsinchen> and between that there was the mysterious train crash 22:17:07 <Zuu> So we should make company buyouts with train crashes to get you some more data? ;-) 22:17:23 <Tycoon> <Fab> please can anybody give me 50k money to help me finishing my line ? 22:17:36 <fonsinchen> That "crash with PBS" at 18:01, was it fully understood? 22:18:13 <xahodo> heh... I could use some money too (barely surviving). 22:18:30 <Tycoon> <Fab> I'm -21k now 22:18:55 <xahodo> I'm at 2k 22:18:58 <Tycoon> <Fab> I need about 30k to build reminding part of the line. 22:19:24 <Tycoon> <Fab> that's because I buy two big aireport 51k each 22:19:27 <Zuu> I barely survived for many hours. This map have some good settings. Keep a good eye of your profit margin and you'll get forward. 22:19:35 <Tycoon> <Fab> for nothing becase of no plan for rubber 22:20:00 <Tycoon> <Fab> thank you. 22:20:14 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> you're welcome 22:20:24 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> xahodo: You got the same amount as well :-) 22:21:07 <xahodo> thanks! that'll help in keeping me adrift. 22:26:38 <Tycoon> <Fab> ?????????? 22:26:52 <Tycoon> <Fab> why ? 22:26:55 <Zuu> You were for sale for a while because you had red money 22:26:59 <Tycoon> <Fab> every thing is deleted? 22:27:21 <Tycoon> <Fab> for sales ? 22:27:58 <Zuu> You need to stay above zero balance. If you are below long enough you'll be offered to be bough up by competitors and if nobody buys you then you will be closed down. 22:28:46 <Zuu> This map is by no means easy to survive on and keeping an eye on the economy is important. 22:29:30 <Tycoon> <Fab> yeah that's true I was in red, but that's because I made big investment, it's takes time to build the big line I finaly build... I didn't have time to see first train arrived.... 22:30:07 <Tycoon> <Fab> ok, so. I leave. settings were too hard for me. good game, bye 22:30:16 <Zuu> bye Fab 22:30:35 <Tycoon> <Fab> congrat to survivors :P 22:31:01 <Tycoon> *** Fab has left the game (leaving) 22:31:03 <Zuu> Hehe, took me about 9-11 hours to get to a state where the economy were no longer that important. 22:33:01 <xahodo> Well, I made several mistakes in the beginning, which cost me a lot of money. Won't be amazed if my company sinks. 22:34:29 <Zuu> xahodo: The problem you have is that you have higher running costs than vehicle income. 22:34:47 <xahodo> I'll take a look 22:35:12 <Zuu> Unless you do anything against that you'll eventually get bankrupt. 22:35:30 <xahodo> Guess that's farewell to the food line :( 22:36:06 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> You pay quite a lot in property maintanence. Each station cost about 500 pounds a year in 1950. 22:36:21 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> That is 500 per transport mode that each station offers. 22:36:39 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> So a small bus station costs the same as a big big trainstation or airport. 22:37:09 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> ah, sorry those 10 000 was the loan interest 22:37:17 <xahodo> whoa! that's unbabalanced 22:37:25 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> It's only about 6 000 on maintanence. 22:38:05 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Yep, that's indeed quite a big drawback for using many bus stops. 22:41:09 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Your train 5 has a too weak engine 22:41:44 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> The max TE is usually more important than the power for taking hills. 22:43:00 *** Coco-Banana-Man has quit IRC 22:44:01 <xahodo> I had a signal in the wrong place. 22:44:19 <xahodo> The train was basically parked on a hill... no wonder it had trouble accalerating. 22:45:12 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> That's probably a much cheaper solution indeed to move the signal. 22:47:05 <xahodo> Rubber actually proves profitable :) 22:47:12 <xahodo> yay 22:47:31 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> nice 22:48:21 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> Oh, there is one more powerfull electric engine for my climb the wall trains :-) 22:57:15 <Tycoon> *** fonsinchen has left the game (connection lost) 23:01:33 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:04:20 *** fonsinchen has quit IRC 23:23:52 <xahodo> Well, I'm off to bed. 23:23:55 <xahodo> gn 23:23:57 *** xahodo has quit IRC 23:24:02 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> night 23:24:06 <Tycoon> *** xahodo has left the game (leaving) 23:24:08 <Tycoon> *** Game paused (not enough players) 23:24:10 <Tycoon> <Zuuu> ouch a train for 250 000 :-p 23:26:06 <Tycoon> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving)