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15:47:38 *** Zuu has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 17:48:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:26:58 *** frosch123 has joined #openttdcoop.nightly 18:26:58 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:26:58 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 18:27:00 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:27:34 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:27:35 <Yexo> !revision 18:27:36 <Nachtigall> Yexo: Game version is r24502 18:29:03 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:29:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I will be 10 mins or so 18:29:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> eating 18:29:32 <Yexo> were can I find the correct firs build? 18:29:51 <andythenorth> Yexo: 1 min 18:30:00 <frosch123> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/files 18:30:05 <frosch123> the 2876M 18:30:08 <andythenorth> hmm 18:30:13 <andythenorth> I don't have op to change topic :P 18:30:15 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3221/firs-r2876M.zip 18:30:45 <andythenorth> frosch123: pax money maker seemed like a total winner yesterday 18:30:50 <andythenorth> having money is more fun :) 18:31:20 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players) 18:32:08 <Yexo> hmm, no goals? 18:33:34 <frosch123> Yexo: join company 18:33:38 <frosch123> only company goals 18:33:44 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has joined company #1 18:33:45 <frosch123> andythenorth: yeah, we should do that again 18:33:48 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> ah :) 18:33:57 <frosch123> Yexo: every company has its own goals 18:34:00 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has joined company #1 18:34:22 <frosch123> do you already want to start with the money maker? 18:34:29 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> do we play coop or competitive? 18:34:41 <frosch123> coop usually 18:34:49 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> maybe disable servicing because disasters are off? 18:34:50 <frosch123> the goal is choosen for that 18:34:57 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> ok :) 18:35:07 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> I meant breakdowns ;) 18:35:19 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> so what's the best money maker in this environment? 18:35:51 <frosch123> pax most likely 18:35:57 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> hmm, goods and fish 18:36:03 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> but yeah, pax is abundant 18:36:06 <frosch123> enabled the service thingie 18:36:56 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> what about Luningville <-> Great Bondingbury 18:37:12 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> on the south west side of the mountain range 18:38:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 to Luningville - Great Bondingbury 18:38:19 <Nachtigall> <Yexo> +1, looks fine as starter 18:38:25 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> 5 long dualhead monorail? 18:38:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ach 18:38:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I meant to ask you to allow insane train lengths 18:38:44 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> i.e. millenium z1 18:38:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 7 is so limiting 18:38:57 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth often has 20 or 30 tile trains :P 18:39:16 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> please unpause, or enable building while paused ;) 18:39:20 <frosch123> signs work btw 18:39:22 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1 18:39:37 <Nachtigall> *** Game unpaused (number of players) 18:39:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> this is going to be very hard btw 18:39:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> low amount of oil 18:39:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not much coal 18:39:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not much bauxite 18:40:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> not many forests 18:40:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> have fun :D 18:42:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am building one ship again :P 18:42:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> because I like them 18:42:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and yesterday it made money fast 18:44:22 <Yexo> sorry, have to go, I won't be able to play tonight :( 18:44:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o 18:44:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :0 18:44:36 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :) 18:44:38 <Nachtigall> *** Yexo has left the game (leaving) 18:44:52 <andythenorth> bye Yexo 18:47:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 18:47:40 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains will pay back within 1 year 18:47:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ships probably 18 months 18:47:54 <frosch123> i placed a sign at a steel mill 18:47:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> interestink 18:48:09 <frosch123> it's in proximity of our town to deliver some metal shop there 18:48:12 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks there 18:48:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for the coal 18:48:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have fast trucks 18:48:37 <frosch123> oh, machine shop 18:49:01 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> trucks are stupid 18:49:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :( 18:49:37 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> you can use tram for the short routes 18:49:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trucks much faster :) 18:49:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but cost too much 18:50:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> all iron / coal to one steel mill? Seems inefficient... 18:50:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I would rather move metal a long distance than coal / iron ore 18:51:53 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I cba to maglev short routes 18:51:56 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i think we need one more pax train 18:51:58 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains are fast enough 18:52:52 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> there are only 4 steel mills anyway 18:59:12 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> the goal is transporting crap to Ginfingfield, right? From the area where you are constructing stuff 18:59:31 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> then shall I start begining a main line from Ginfingfield to there? 18:59:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> goal is to build 4 industries at Ginfingfield 18:59:46 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then supply them 18:59:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then haul away the production 19:00:02 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> but they are going to be supplied with metal, right? 19:00:08 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1 19:00:08 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the metal shall go to out town, yes 19:00:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> get making ENSP as soon as possible :) 19:00:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then fly it back with planes to the mines 19:00:28 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then we have a feedback loop :) 19:01:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll get that pax subsidy 19:08:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho ho 19:08:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we spent all the money 19:10:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> woah 19:10:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more metal trains :) 19:10:11 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> more moneys! 19:10:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I always fly the supplies back 19:10:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> although we could use the maglevs 19:10:37 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> go for it ;) 19:10:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> monorails /s 19:10:47 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> we don't have maglev yet 19:10:47 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't build maglev 19:10:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes avoid congestion :) 19:10:51 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it's ugly 19:11:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ensp by plane is 100% realistic anyway 19:11:13 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> planes are pure congestion 19:11:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so it must be ok :P 19:11:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more metal trains needed 19:11:43 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: more moneys! 19:12:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to make the monorails refit to ensp 19:12:35 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> fine, as long as they don't full load at Ginfingfield 19:12:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no 19:12:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they just pick up whatever is there 19:13:21 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hello 19:13:23 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lo Hirundo :) 19:15:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the road stops at Wrunthill are connected to the pickup station 19:15:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they are for incoming ensp 19:15:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fyi ;) 19:16:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 19:17:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf 19:17:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> why are those monorails loading metal at Ginfingfield? 19:18:16 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> Are they? 19:18:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :o 19:18:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the autorefit is totally failing 19:18:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they're just not refitting :o 19:18:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> since when is autorefit broken? :P 19:19:57 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> hmm yes, there's something wrong 19:20:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'm going to use planes instead 19:20:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but that's odd 19:20:25 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: connect that airport to Ginfingfield south please 19:20:27 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> does the wagon allow autorefitting at all? 19:20:37 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf 19:20:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it just started delivering supplies :P 19:20:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> despite the trains don't refit 19:21:00 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth is confused :) 19:21:02 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> andythen0rth: because I made a truck go there 19:21:12 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> in the hope that then the trains would refit 19:21:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah :) 19:21:49 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> It seems there is money to spare... what can I do? 19:21:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> let me build a plane first 19:22:01 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> create more metal? 19:22:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes are ridiculously costly 19:22:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> got one 19:26:23 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i am switching to forests 19:26:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> good call 19:26:33 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> everything to "sawmill" sign 19:26:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we'll need farm supplies 19:26:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have loads at the machine ship 19:26:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> shop* 19:27:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need to do oil 19:27:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I am supplying the rigs with ensp 19:27:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> around Plindhattan 19:27:42 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> how does oil get ensp? 19:27:56 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> s/get/become/ 19:28:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil -> refinery -> gasoline -> machine shop 19:28:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> also oil -> chemicals -> lumber yard 19:28:43 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I placed a sign for refinery 19:29:09 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> that's quite a distance 19:29:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ship -> transfer -> monorail 19:29:34 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> should be ok? 19:31:20 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> should I join with existing track or build directly to sawmill from !here-sign? 19:31:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we're low on cash 19:32:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> use existing 19:32:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ? 19:32:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> then expand in last couple of years before deadline 19:35:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> handy? 19:35:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there's coal there 19:38:04 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> where to found the timber yard? 19:38:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it doesn't produce FMSP 19:38:21 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> next to the other industry? 19:38:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so doesn't need to be in FMSP airport catchment 19:38:53 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 19:39:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there is a second steel mill running 19:39:26 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> needs metal collecting 19:39:28 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> has a sign 19:41:46 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> grr 19:41:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil trains are stuck at Ginfingfield 19:41:53 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> why can't I even make a refit work? 19:49:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 19:49:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no cargo graphics for scrap metal apparently 19:50:01 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> the main line needs four tracks 19:50:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> some industries are now producing at 4x 19:50:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they could use more trains 19:50:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or bigger trains :P 19:50:23 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we are at 50% metal transport :p 19:54:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> tl 5 is to twee :) 19:57:38 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah 19:57:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so we have to use depot refits :o 19:57:46 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sorry 19:57:52 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth did bad 19:57:59 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I thought that station would be faster this way 19:58:49 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i kill this pax tram 19:58:56 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it blocks the main line :p 19:59:50 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> do we have an alu plant yet? 19:59:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no 19:59:59 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> don't think so 20:00:05 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> should we? 20:00:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yes 20:00:25 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah 20:00:32 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oil piling up everywhere :P 20:00:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> 6m litres at Grontburg north 20:00:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P 20:02:02 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'll use alu plant near steel mill 2 20:02:29 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need to haul metal from there 20:04:07 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what industry type nexT? 20:04:14 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> recyclables! 20:04:20 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> forget that 20:04:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wrong question 20:04:44 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the forge is crap 20:04:46 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> oh, there are only two types to produce eng supplies 20:04:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so either machine shop 20:04:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> or lumber yard... 20:04:54 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> so second machine shop 20:04:56 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> connect all the bauxite? 20:04:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> doesn't matter 20:05:02 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we need to deliver farm sup to the forrests 20:05:04 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> and chemicals to alu plant also 20:05:06 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> not enough timber 20:05:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we should dump all recyclables to Chatburg Springs recycling plant 20:05:19 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and get scrap metal out 20:05:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are lots of recyclables on map 20:05:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh gah 20:05:45 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I can't move enough oil 20:06:15 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> built second machine shop 20:06:22 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh 20:06:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the ooil trains take a stupid route 20:06:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops 20:06:44 <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth goes direct 20:19:09 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> After fixing the refinery, it's safe to add quite a few more chemical trains methinks 20:26:07 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> collectiing some supplies? :P 20:26:34 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> there are 4k eng supplies at the airport 20:26:37 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> andy: the 'concrete slabs platform' non-track tile is messed up 20:26:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that mine is already maxed out btw 20:26:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Hirundo: I know 20:26:44 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> they noly count to the goal on final delivery 20:26:50 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I screwed up chips :P 20:26:56 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we have to dump there somewhere 20:27:02 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> right 20:27:16 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lot of tractors going to that mine now :) 20:27:27 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm 20:27:33 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we'd better think about trying to win 20:27:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we need 79m for a machine ship? 20:28:10 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> what? 20:28:17 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> need a 4th industry 20:28:32 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> timber does not seem to be enough 20:28:38 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> and we can better boost metal 20:28:42 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup 20:28:44 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 79k 20:28:50 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> not 79M 20:28:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops :P 20:29:00 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> i buld a 4th 20:29:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I bet we can get more timber 20:35:49 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we need some trains for the 3rd machine shop 20:35:55 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> where to get stuff from? :) 20:36:01 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'm building some from alu / steel mill 2 20:38:03 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> frosch: to which station? 20:38:13 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> transfer 20:43:47 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> big airport is short of helipads 20:43:49 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> lame :P 20:44:56 <Zuu> Helistation? 20:45:11 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes can't land there :) 20:45:36 <Zuu> You need the equivalent of multiple road stops per station but for airports :-) 20:45:55 <Zuu> Or set up a transfer system and use helistation for helicopters :-) 20:45:55 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> more track! 20:45:57 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> faste! 20:46:05 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> everything is stuck! 20:47:32 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> no, I added that track on purpose 20:47:55 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> trains from above only need the outside track 20:48:46 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Hirundo: Ctrl+landscaping => diagonal landscaping 20:48:52 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho 20:48:54 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how handy 20:49:12 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> (assuming it was Hirundo who flattened the land) 20:49:15 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> me 20:49:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> wtf 20:49:29 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> Oh, sorry Hirundofor blaming you ;-) 20:49:31 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 1417 crates transported last quarter! 20:50:25 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has joined company #1 20:51:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh 20:51:56 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's interesting 20:52:03 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> deliveries of supplies have collapsed 20:52:10 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so production of inputs for supplies collapses :o 20:52:13 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that's fun 20:52:23 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> we had a jam on the main line 20:52:35 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so now we have a few months latency in production 20:52:41 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> just like real life :P 20:52:59 <Nachtigall> <Zuuu> There is still a jam at the exit of ENSP pickup 20:53:21 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> If we had another year left to play I would have built a lot of ships for metal 20:53:24 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (general timeout) 20:53:24 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (connection lost) 20:54:22 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 2 months left 20:54:36 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> la la la :) 20:56:18 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frickety frick :P 20:56:18 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> at least we manager 4/4 now 20:56:25 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> 1k short 20:56:39 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we have too much piled up at tondham airport 20:57:44 <Nachtigall> <Hirundo> I'm quitting, good luck finishing & goodnight 20:57:48 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bye 20:57:50 <Nachtigall> *** Hirundo has left the game (leaving) 20:59:45 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> yay 20:59:51 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> only 1 quarter late :) 20:59:54 <Nachtigall> <Strontium> ciao ;) 21:00:04 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> bye 21:00:06 <Nachtigall> *** Strontium has left the game (leaving) 21:00:06 <Nachtigall> <fr0sch> it's a bit lucky from time to time 21:00:24 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I made about 3 mistakes 21:00:30 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> if I hadn't....gold :P 21:01:05 <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch has left the game (leaving) 21:01:05 <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players) 21:01:09 <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> q 21:01:15 <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (connection lost) 21:01:16 <andythenorth> bed time 21:01:19 <andythenorth> bye all :) 21:01:21 *** andythenorth has left #openttdcoop.nightly 21:03:15 <Nachtigall> *** Zuuu has left the game (leaving) 21:03:19 <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (manual, number of players) 21:32:16 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:48:43 *** Zuu has quit IRC