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Log for #openttdcoop.nightly on 1st February 2013:
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19:37:38  <frosch123> ah, i remember... the all ops channel :)
19:37:47  <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal,%2003-01-1972.sav
19:38:07  <andythenorth> !content https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal,%2003-01-1972.sav
19:38:08  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: [Content] Connection established
19:38:08  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
19:38:08  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: [Content] Nothing to download
19:38:30  <frosch123> !getsave https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal,%2003-01-1972.sav
19:38:54  <frosch123> !help
19:39:27  <andythenorth> !rcon list
19:39:30  <andythenorth> !rcon
19:39:53  <andythenorth> hmm
19:40:00  <andythenorth> the bot has no help :P
19:40:17  <andythenorth> !rcon save
19:40:20  <andythenorth> !rcon files
19:40:26  <andythenorth> could ask :P
19:40:29  <andythenorth> planetmaker: ^
19:40:34  <frosch123> !getsave https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal, 03-01-1972.sav
19:40:48  <frosch123> it's the right command, just the escaping is wrong or so
19:40:57  <Nachtigall> frosch123: OK :-)
19:40:57  <andythenorth> I'll fix
19:41:20  <andythenorth> nvm
19:42:25  <frosch123> hmm, i guess we should update the server nevertheless
19:42:34  <frosch123> playing with a one month old nightly feels wrong :p
19:42:39  <andythenorth> yup
19:42:53  <andythenorth> Alberth: do you know how to work the bot? :)
19:43:03  <frosch123> i know from the logs :)
19:43:09  <frosch123> and the channel topic says how
19:43:11  <Alberth> hit it with a hammer?
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: OK :-)
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: say "<andythenorth> could ask :P"
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: ‎[All] Nachtigall: <andythenorth> the bot has no help :P
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: say "<andythenorth> planetmaker: ^"
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: - Save the current game. Usage: 'save <filename>'
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: say "<andythenorth> could ask :P"
19:43:23  <Nachtigall> frosch123: ‎[All] Nachtigall: <andythenorth> the bot has no help :P
19:43:25  <Nachtigall> frosch123: say "<andythenorth> planetmaker: ^"
19:43:25  <Nachtigall> frosch123: - Save the current game. Usage: 'save <filename>'
19:43:27  <Nachtigall> frosch123: ERROR: command not found
19:44:49  <frosch123> i wonder who is messing with us though :p
19:44:56  <frosch123> !update
19:44:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: Update starting...
19:45:53  <Alberth> does that mean I'll need a different version than 24876?
19:46:13  <frosch123> yes, i suppose it will end up with r24953
19:46:52  <andythenorth> 24952?
19:47:10  <frosch123> i would expect it to grab a nightly
19:47:13  <frosch123> but it will announce it
19:48:23  <Nachtigall> Update done: OpenTTD r24952 (run !install)
19:48:37  <frosch123> no idea why it would pick that one
19:48:43  <frosch123> !install
19:48:47  <Nachtigall> frosch123: install done, please run !restart
19:48:57  <frosch123> !restart
19:48:57  <Nachtigall> Restart scheduled, will be initiated in next minute!
19:49:01  <Nachtigall> Scheduled quit for automated maintenance... will be back shortely
19:49:01  <Nachtigall> Thank you for playing r24876.
19:49:05  <Nachtigall> Server has exited
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19:49:13  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
19:49:13  <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
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19:49:13  *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24952 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>"
19:49:59  <Alberth> I guess we can live without the latest updates to the tamil translation :)
19:50:10  <frosch123> !getsave https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal,%2003-01-1972.sav
19:51:04  <frosch123> !getsave devs.openttd.org:~frosch/ncg20130201.sav
19:51:15  <frosch123> !getsave http://devs.openttd.org:~frosch/ncg20130201.sav
19:51:27  <frosch123> !getsave http://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/ncg20130201.sav
19:52:03  <Alberth> !getsave https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3722/NoCarGoal, 03-01-1972.sav
19:52:11  <frosch123> !rcon ls
19:52:36  <Nachtigall> frosch123: OK :-)
19:52:41  <frosch123> !rcon ls
19:52:58  <frosch123> i still think it's not a bot who says that "OK" :p
19:53:12  <frosch123> well, let's use ssh then
19:56:18  <frosch123> !rcon load ncg20130201.sav
19:57:09  <frosch123> something about the rcon thingie is broken :s
19:57:28  <andythenorth> :P
19:57:36  <Alberth> seems that way :(
19:58:14  <frosch123> i downloaded the save via wget on the server
19:58:20  <frosch123> but i don't know how to make it load it
19:58:32  <andythenorth> I asked spike in coop dev channel
19:58:37  <frosch123> the virtual console of the nightly server does not seem to respond
19:58:41  <frosch123> maybe it all crashed :p
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19:59:57  <frosch123> !restart
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20:00:42  <frosch123> oh
20:01:00  <frosch123> so, at least some reason :)
20:02:01  <frosch123> hmm, there is still some "getsave.sh" running
20:02:13  <frosch123> so i guess some of the command above caused trouble :p
20:02:28  <frosch123> i wonder whether i should kill it :p
20:03:09  <andythenorth> peter1138 has a server o_O
20:03:33  <frosch123> hmm the ":" broke it
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20:04:34  <Nachtigall> Autopilot engaged
20:04:34  <Nachtigall> Loading savegame: '{#openttdcoop} - Nightly Server'
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20:04:34  *** Webster changes topic to "http://nightly.openttdcoop.org/nightly/game.log | r24952 | !content, !update, !install, !restart, !getsave, !rcon <openttd command>"
20:04:37  <Alberth> so much for robust parsing of user input :)
20:04:53  <frosch123> yay, killing wget makes it look better
20:04:56  <frosch123> !rcon ls
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: 1) autosave/ (Directory)
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: 2) uploads/ (Directory)
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: 3) restart.sav
20:04:56  <Nachtigall> frosch123: 4) test.sav
20:04:57  <Nachtigall> frosch123: you have 6 more messages
20:05:01  <frosch123> !rcon cd uploads
20:05:09  <frosch123> !rcon load ncg20130201.sav
20:05:11  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:05:37  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:05:40  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game
20:05:41  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:05:42  <andythenorth> wrong save
20:05:44  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 joined the game
20:05:48  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
20:05:56  <andythenorth> interesting
20:06:06  <frosch123> no grfs at all :p
20:06:09  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:06:11  <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth joined the game
20:06:24  <frosch123> no goals at all :p
20:06:27  <peter1138> herpderp
20:07:06  <planetmaker> hm, what game's up?
20:07:15  <andythenorth> Alberth: wrong game :P
20:07:17  <Alberth> moin
20:07:20  <planetmaker> !content
20:07:20  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Connection established
20:07:20  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 0 file(s) (0 bytes)
20:07:20  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Nothing to download
20:07:25  <planetmaker> !content
20:07:27  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content Update] Expect timeout triggered!
20:07:28  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Downloading 3 file(s) (34938 bytes)
20:07:28  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 606
20:07:28  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 970
20:07:28  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] Completed download of 1025
20:07:29  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] All 3 downloaded
20:07:29  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: [Content] (you need to rescan(ai|game|newgrf) to have the new content loaded)
20:07:34  <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving)
20:07:37  <planetmaker> !rescan newgrf
20:07:42  <planetmaker> !rescan
20:07:45  <frosch123> planetmaker: no proper game
20:07:48  <planetmaker> !rescanai
20:07:49  <frosch123> andy messed up :p
20:07:52  <planetmaker> !rescangame
20:07:55  <planetmaker> !rescannewgrf
20:08:18  <planetmaker> it loads, if proper content not found, a random new game
20:08:28  <frosch123> !rcon load ncg20130201.sav
20:08:30  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:08:32  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:08:34  <andythenorth> bad andythenorth
20:08:34  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 joined the game
20:08:42  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:08:42  <planetmaker> which savegame?
20:08:44  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game
20:08:45  <andythenorth> blah
20:08:54  <frosch123> the one which gave andy to me
20:09:04  <planetmaker> url?
20:09:06  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
20:09:12  <frosch123> it's already uploaded
20:09:16  <planetmaker> !pwd
20:09:29  <planetmaker> !rcon pwd
20:09:30  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: /home/ottdc/svn-nightly/autopilot/save/uploads/
20:09:34  <planetmaker> !rcon ls
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 1) ncg20130201.sav
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 2) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 3) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 4) test.sav
20:09:35  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 13 more messages
20:09:42  <planetmaker> !more
20:09:42  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 5) nocargoal20121113.sav
20:09:42  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 6) nocargoal20121111.sav
20:09:42  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 7) game.sav
20:09:42  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 8) NoCarGoal-game2-2012-09-30.sav
20:09:42  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 9) Unnamed, 04-01-2009.sav
20:09:43  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 8 more messages
20:09:45  <planetmaker> !more
20:09:45  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 10) silicon20120910.sav
20:09:46  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 11) ncg20120909.sav
20:09:46  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 12) silicon20120908.sav
20:09:47  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 13) silicon20120903.sav
20:09:47  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: 14) ncg20120831.sav
20:09:49  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have 3 more messages
20:09:55  <frosch123> it's at position 1 :p
20:10:00  <planetmaker> !rcon load 1
20:10:02  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:10:04  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:10:04  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 joined the game
20:10:07  <planetmaker> !revision
20:10:08  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: Game version is r24952
20:10:11  <planetmaker> !dl lin64
20:10:11  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: http://binaries.openttd.org/nightlies/trunk/r24952/openttd-trunk-r24952-linux-generic-amd64.tar.xz
20:10:12  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:10:14  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game
20:10:18  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
20:10:22  <planetmaker> better? Or not
20:10:24  <andythenorth> nope
20:10:25  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 has left the game (leaving)
20:10:38  <andythenorth> !getsave http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3725/NGC03011972.sav
20:10:39  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: OK :-)
20:10:51  <andythenorth> !rcon ls
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 1) NGC03011972.sav
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 2) ncg20130201.sav
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 3) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 4) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:10:51  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 14 more messages
20:11:00  <andythenorth> !rcon load 1
20:11:01  <frosch123> andythenorth: you are using a non-bananas fish!
20:11:03  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:11:30  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:11:32  <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth joined the game
20:11:37  <andythenorth> herp
20:11:47  <andythenorth> well that's not going to bloody work
20:11:48  <andythenorth> sorry
20:11:49  <frosch123> did you change grfid?
20:11:59  <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving)
20:12:10  <planetmaker> grfid *change*? of what?
20:12:16  <frosch123> i am not even allowed to load it in singleplayer :p
20:12:22  <planetmaker> lol
20:12:30  <andythenorth> hmm
20:12:37  <andythenorth> online content thinks I have that FISH
20:12:38  <andythenorth> meh
20:13:00  <planetmaker> you: yes. but the save?
20:13:01  <frosch123> it does not even offer a compatible grf
20:13:28  <andythenorth> supposed to be FISH 2 alpha 4
20:13:53  <andythenorth> my openttd thinks the version in the save is that version on bananas
20:13:54  <andythenorth> meh
20:14:14  <frosch123> it wants version 942, which i do not have, not bananas
20:14:18  <andythenorth> fixing
20:16:11  <andythenorth> !getsave http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3728/NGC03011972.sav
20:16:12  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: OK :-)
20:16:16  <andythenorth> !rcon ls
20:16:16  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:16:16  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 1) NGC03011972.sav
20:16:16  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 2) ncg20130201.sav
20:16:16  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 3) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:16:16  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 4) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:16:17  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 14 more messages
20:16:22  <andythenorth> !rcon load 1
20:16:24  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:16:42  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:16:45  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 joined the game
20:16:51  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:16:51  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:16:53  <andythenorth> FFS
20:16:54  <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game
20:16:54  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game
20:17:04  <planetmaker> not there yet, I guess :-)
20:17:05  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 has left the game (leaving)
20:17:10  <andythenorth> !rcon more
20:17:10  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: ERROR: command not found
20:17:12  <andythenorth> !rcon ls
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 1) NGC03011972.sav
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 2) ncg20130201.sav
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 3) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 4) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:17:13  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 14 more messages
20:17:14  <andythenorth> !rcon more
20:17:15  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: ERROR: command not found
20:17:17  <planetmaker> !more
20:17:17  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have no more messages
20:17:23  <planetmaker>  !more
20:17:24  <Nachtigall> planetmaker: you have no more messages
20:17:28  <planetmaker> just !more
20:17:33  <andythenorth> !rcon ls
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 1) NGC03011972.sav
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 2) ncg20130201.sav
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 3) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:17:34  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 4) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:17:35  <andythenorth> !more
20:17:35  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 14 more messages
20:17:36  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 5) test.sav
20:17:37  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 6) nocargoal20121113.sav
20:17:37  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 7) nocargoal20121111.sav
20:17:39  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 8) game.sav
20:17:39  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 9) NoCarGoal-game2-2012-09-30.sav
20:17:41  <frosch123> that's just the same fish again
20:17:41  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 9 more messages
20:17:50  <andythenorth> frosch123: I just got that fish from bananas :P
20:17:57  <andythenorth> I've rm-ed all other local fish
20:18:01  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
20:18:15  <planetmaker> andythenorth, and changed your grf config. and created a new game?
20:18:35  <andythenorth> nah :P
20:18:43  <andythenorth> that FISH is not showing in my game
20:18:46  <andythenorth> interesting
20:19:35  <andythenorth> just doesn't appear in my newgrf list at all
20:19:40  <andythenorth> despite I just downloaded it
20:19:43  <andythenorth> FISH 1 then :P
20:19:52  <planetmaker> older than FISH2?
20:20:04  <planetmaker> and "don't show newgrf old versions" (or however that's called)?
20:22:03  <andythenorth> !getsave http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/3731/NGC03011972.sav
20:22:04  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: OK :-)
20:22:06  <andythenorth> !rcon ls
20:22:06  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 0) .. (Parent directory)
20:22:07  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 1) NGC03011972.sav
20:22:07  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 2) ncg20130201.sav
20:22:07  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 3) Silicon Valley, 02-01-1971.sav
20:22:07  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: 4) NoCarGoal-game-2012-11-16.sav
20:22:07  <Nachtigall> andythenorth: you have 14 more messages
20:22:11  <andythenorth> !rcon load 1
20:22:13  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:22:23  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:22:25  <andythenorth> worked
20:22:26  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth joined the game
20:22:31  <andythenorth> dunno what else I screwed up :P
20:22:32  <andythenorth> sorry
20:22:36  <andythenorth> making saves is hard :(
20:23:00  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:23:00  <Nachtigall> *** fr0sch44 joined the game
20:23:21  <Nachtigall> *** Game still paused (number of players)
20:23:22  <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker joined the game
20:23:23  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> o/
20:23:57  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> go!
20:24:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> someone build a rail line
20:24:10  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has joined company #1
20:24:22  <frosch123> i'll have to check some settings first
20:24:31  <frosch123> using the new settings gui features :p
20:24:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that baffled me :)
20:24:48  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they're fine
20:24:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth>  wtf did difficulty go?
20:24:59  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth won't miss that panel
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20:25:09  <frosch123> i guess it's obvious to start with fish -> food ?
20:25:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup
20:25:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> loads of boats
20:25:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but also a train
20:25:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for money
20:25:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax
20:25:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's ukrs2
20:25:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> trains cost a alot to run
20:25:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and to build
20:25:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> but will make money after that
20:26:13  <Ammler> planetmaker: resans are rcon commands
20:26:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
20:26:46  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no 2 big towns close enough
20:26:51  <planetmaker> ah, ty :-)
20:26:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pax boats :P
20:26:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planes?
20:27:02  <Alberth> no big towns period :p
20:27:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Brendingstone:
20:27:28  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and Wutburg
20:27:28  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> Money from PAX Little Greenway - Gardinghattan Ridge?
20:27:41  <frosch123> the two biggest towns are fairly close actually
20:28:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> watch out for building costs though :P
20:28:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pikka grfs :P
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20:28:29  <planetmaker> means?
20:28:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> high costs :)
20:28:50  <frosch123> !rcon set command_pause_level 3
20:28:50  <Nachtigall> frosch123: ERROR: This command/variable is not available during network games.
20:28:57  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> but only vehicles, I guess? Or is it also tracks?
20:28:59  <frosch123> really?
20:29:05  <andythenorth> !unpause
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20:29:25  <planetmaker> did we now decide what to do and where?
20:29:34  <frosch123> town1 <-> town 2 i guess
20:29:36  <frosch123> (signs)
20:29:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> £400 / tile electric track
20:29:41  <andythenorth> !pause
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20:29:43  <Nachtigall> *** Game paused (number of players)
20:29:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I just needed to check cost
20:30:11  <planetmaker> short distance, bad connectivity, I say
20:30:29  <Alberth> wutburg instead of that island?
20:30:51  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yes
20:30:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> do it
20:31:01  <andythenorth> !unpause
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20:31:04  <frosch123> okay
20:31:06  <planetmaker> I still suggest Gardinghattan Ridge and Little Grenway :D
20:31:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> we won't afford the track
20:31:24  <frosch123> what to build?
20:31:26  <frosch123> elrail?
20:31:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yes
20:31:34  <planetmaker> ship Dradhattan -> Rindstone?
20:31:45  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planetm4ker: could be good
20:32:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> frosch you'll need £70k for a train
20:32:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll start at wutburg
20:32:50  <frosch123> ok, i gues start building then :p
20:32:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup
20:32:57  <frosch123> i'll wait for some more money to join :p
20:34:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> signals left or right?
20:34:14  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> pick one, don't care
20:34:22  <frosch123> right side traffic
20:34:24  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> hydrofoyl @ 106pax or stornoway @ 585 pax?
20:34:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> planetm4ker: faster
20:35:26  <planetmaker> ok
20:37:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> now we watch :(
20:37:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and wait for money :)
20:37:25  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> 3 hydrofoil in action....
20:38:13  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> bah 7k income only :-(
20:38:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mine got 11k
20:38:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P
20:39:00  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> should have gone for big. not fast
20:39:01  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> station walk walk walk
20:39:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sorry
20:39:10  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> maybe :-P
20:40:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fishing boats then?
20:40:34  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> does a paddle steamer work on ocean?
20:40:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> yup
20:42:10  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> brb
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20:44:50  <Alberth> why are the pax trains blocks?
20:44:53  <Alberth> *blocked
20:45:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> no power
20:45:43  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch44> because they load as fast as they can
20:45:54  <Nachtigall> <fr0sch44> there are too few of them
20:46:00  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they were stuck
20:46:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> missing elrail
20:46:07  <Alberth> no they were stuck at the tracks
20:46:20  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
20:46:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> time for goal start :o
20:46:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> fish?
20:46:49  <Alberth> seems a good first goal :p
20:46:56  <frosch123> hmm, the fishing habour construction stage looks really wrong :p
20:47:04  <frosch123> it is bulldozing the sea
20:47:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> he
20:47:09  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I wondered about that
20:47:10  <frosch123> and glitching at the shore :p
20:47:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> well that will need special casing then :P
20:48:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll start near Frunfingway
20:50:39  <Alberth> frunfingway fishing harbour?
20:50:46  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> mostly connected
20:50:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are other clusters ;)
20:51:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> north west of the map might be good
20:51:35  <frosch123> i am already at the north west :p
20:52:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hover-fishing? :P
20:52:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> heli fishing?
20:52:50  <Alberth> dynamite fishing :p
20:53:12  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> :-P
20:55:31  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> at Grenway: Build track 90° to existing
20:55:37  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> Easier :-)
20:56:16  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> may I improve there? :D
20:57:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hmm
20:57:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> grain
20:57:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oh how handy
20:58:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> the mill is in the middle of the farms :)
20:58:09  <Nachtigall> <alb3rth> planetm4ker:  feel free
20:58:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> who likes trucks :P
20:59:14  <frosch123> hmm... the do-not-open vehicle gui after clone is indeed really weird
20:59:24  <frosch123> it makes it more hard to clone a vehicle multiple times
20:59:25  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> much track saved now, alb3rth:D
20:59:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I kind of like it
20:59:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> sort of
20:59:45  <frosch123> i wonder whether it should be reverted, made a setting, or changed to something even different
21:01:21  <Alberth> I feel the need for 'clone N' now
21:01:43  <Alberth> and a bigger "go" button in the depot :)
21:02:09  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> meh. Brewery, hotel, food store and oil refinery and port all look alike in colour
21:02:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> on map?
21:02:26  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> patch the port :P
21:02:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I forgot to set a colour
21:02:51  <Alberth> :)
21:03:19  <Alberth> hmm, grain
21:03:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> farms near brunway
21:04:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> stupid rivers
21:04:16  <Nachtigall> * andythen0rth bulldozes
21:05:38  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> bah. I fucking hate these signals. Too small. Wrong side
21:05:52  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> and totally looking different. Thus I recognize none
21:06:00  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> and fail even to see them on the main screen
21:06:16  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> never again these signals
21:06:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> could turn them
21:06:36  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's a parameter, won't break the game :P
21:06:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I reckon
21:06:54  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> the signal graphics itself are a big PITA
21:07:04  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> parameter likely doesn't fix that badness
21:07:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> can turn the signals off
21:07:58  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> I see literally nothing. Can't build rail. But... meh. Don't stop / reload / now
21:08:12  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> but no signals this game for me
21:08:42  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> they're invisible even on 4x zoom-in
21:11:09  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> no-one spends money...
21:11:23  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> hm... and trains are expensive
21:11:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> you need something?
21:11:35  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> no...
21:12:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> how we doing?
21:12:29  <planetmaker> badly. 35% of bronze at half-time
21:12:53  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> what is train 7 for?
21:12:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it's carrying grain nowhere
21:13:41  <frosch123> okay, all fishing grounds done
21:13:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> \o/
21:14:02  <Alberth> andythenorth: supposed to load the food
21:14:24  <frosch123> hmm, many of the harbors lack tram connection to the nearby towns
21:15:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> use boats
21:15:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hovercraft
21:15:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> faster
21:18:28  <frosch123> grain now i guess
21:18:32  <frosch123> and hope for food
21:18:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> +1
21:18:50  <frosch123> i guess there is some way to turn grain into food :p
21:18:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> grain mill
21:21:07  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops
21:21:10  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> port is well too cheap
21:21:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hax
21:40:53  <frosch123> what?
21:41:03  <frosch123> who used a unload and leave empty order?
21:41:15  <frosch123> is there any use in such?
21:41:17  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> me
21:41:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> drop off overlaps a farm
21:41:27  <Alberth> me might have done that too
21:41:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> so it backloads
21:41:31  <frosch123> oh
21:41:42  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> backload is unwanted ;)
21:42:15  <frosch123> hmm, looks like everything is connected
21:42:19  <frosch123> funding farms?
21:42:27  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> deliver supplies
21:42:34  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> there are some at Great Flarfingburg airport
21:42:37  <frosch123> oh right
21:42:39  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> send a few out :P
21:42:40  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> where does the grain from Bruntway East go?
21:42:48  <frosch123> i looked at fishing grounds and noticed they have none
21:43:06  <frosch123> so i assumed same for farms :p
21:43:53  <frosch123> hmm, oil, refinery, fertilizer...
21:43:56  <frosch123> that's a really long chain
21:44:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I've already got one
21:44:06  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> don't bother with a new one
21:44:08  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> too slow
21:44:13  <frosch123> ah, so planes? :)
21:44:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> is all grain connected?
21:44:34  <Alberth> probably not
21:44:34  <frosch123> yes, all farms are connected
21:44:47  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> my port is broken :P
21:44:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> it doesn't boost
21:44:54  <frosch123> all above 90% transported
21:44:56  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> nobody reported a bug at tt-forums
21:45:11  <frosch123> so, unless it is waiing at some transfer somewhere, it should be fine
21:45:33  <frosch123> so, where is the farm supply?
21:45:40  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> Great Flarfingburg airport
21:45:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and Ninfingley Market fertiliser plant
21:48:33  <frosch123> do i need to deliver many supplies? or steady supplies?
21:48:52  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> steady
21:48:54  <frosch123> ah, there is some helptext
21:49:02  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> they're pretty generous
21:49:12  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I made them so they're effective in games like this
21:49:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> does NCG still have the 1 year early finish bug?
21:49:38  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> oops
21:50:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> now we get gridlock :P
21:51:37  <frosch123> hmm, built too many planes
21:51:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> easily done
21:51:49  <frosch123> one would have been enough
21:51:50  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> for these airports :P
21:52:10  <frosch123> no, i stole all supplies towards a different airport
21:52:16  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> plane 6 is stuck?
21:52:22  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> check it out
21:52:29  <frosch123> full load
21:52:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ah
21:52:41  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> hought it was unloading :P
21:53:29  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I'll make an improvement :P
21:56:19  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> herp grain
21:56:21  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P
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22:00:44  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> hm... might even work out :D
22:01:15  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> ups... I wasted money on farms.... 2.2M each!
22:01:25  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> grain mills would have been better :)
22:01:51  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> prospecting also... is interesting with goals :-)
22:02:03  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :P
22:02:59  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> ho ho
22:03:05  <Nachtigall> <planetm4ker> \o/
22:03:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I have never got a gold before :P
22:03:18  <frosch123> :p
22:03:24  <Alberth> oh, and 2 months to spare :p
22:03:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth>  building a grain mill at Frunfingway helped
22:03:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I kind of re-made FIRS supplies for this kind of challenge
22:03:46  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> :)
22:04:32  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I prefer FIRS Basic economies
22:04:35  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> less complicated
22:05:04  <Alberth> yeah, this is still understandable
22:05:15  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> and you get lots of similar industries
22:05:18  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> in clusters...
22:05:38  <Alberth> frunfingway farm station has some food too much :)
22:05:44  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I
22:05:54  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> I killed the food trains there to make space for grain
22:05:58  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> gold \o/
22:06:04  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> that was fun
22:06:11  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> also found some FIRS bugs
22:06:13  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> h
22:06:24  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> done
22:06:30  <Nachtigall> <andythen0rth> q
22:06:32  <Nachtigall> *** andythen0rth has left the game (leaving)
22:06:35  <frosch123> https://secure.openttd.org/wiki/NoCarGoal <- recorded :p
22:06:35  <Alberth> ok, time for bed :)
22:06:56  <andythenorth> frosch123: thanks
22:06:57  <planetmaker> :-) night Alberth
22:07:10  <planetmaker> and thanks all. Nice game. Worked out (much) better than I thought
22:07:22  <andythenorth> frosch123: table doesn't record if we won? o_O
22:07:29  <frosch123> who cares :p
22:07:37  <andythenorth> point
22:07:45  <frosch123> i record the amount after the years
22:07:53  <frosch123> not the time to reach gold
22:08:01  <Alberth> frosch123: typo "arctiv"
22:08:17  <andythenorth> 7 years is a good play length
22:08:37  <Alberth> and a missing ) after the years
22:08:48  <frosch123> fixed both typos
22:08:57  <frosch123> needed 4 edits because i did not notice them in preview :p
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22:09:23  <Alberth> seems useful info, and not too much
22:09:31  <Nachtigall> *** alb3rth has left the game (leaving)
22:09:46  <frosch123> i only built ships and trams in that game :o
22:09:52  <planetmaker> :-)
22:09:56  <frosch123> hmm, any a few trucks, but only because the road was already there
22:09:57  <planetmaker> I built ships and trains
22:10:05  <Alberth> we don't have a GS overview wiki page do we?
22:10:19  <frosch123> what would it contain?
22:10:46  <Alberth> short description, and links to useful information and/or forum threads?
22:10:53  <Alberth> much like the AI overview
22:11:11  <Nachtigall> *** planetm4ker has left the game (leaving)
22:11:52  <frosch123> never used the ai page :p
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