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I was told not to upset players there. I was not told not to tell players off for what I perceive as bad building and blatant breaching of rules 22:04:28 <Ammler> oh, we also told with our own members about that 22:04:45 <Ammler> but obviously we don't ban members :-P 22:04:51 <Ammler> we need them to admin it 22:05:19 <Ammler> after all it's our "house", we set our own rules 22:06:04 <Chris_Booth> well that is good for you. I don't think a member that sets a bad example should ask another member to ban someone for something they have done them selves, that is just plane stupid 22:06:29 <Ammler> he, the ban is from us all 22:06:41 <Ammler> it's not based on one member 22:06:46 *** ODM has quit IRC 22:06:53 <Chris_Booth> I also think that if you are going to discipline me for this you need to look at your members. I never said one member did I? 22:07:19 <Ammler> bans happen rarly from only one 22:07:24 <Chris_Booth> I said i don't think I should be banned while a member sets a bad example 22:07:58 <Chris_Booth> I never pointed the blame at one person now, that would be stupid like you members are being 22:07:58 <Ammler> as said, we also talked abou that, but that is something internal 22:08:12 <Chris_Booth> Talked about what? 22:08:59 <Ammler> anyway, other members aren't the "line" for ban 22:09:00 <Chris_Booth> All i said is before you ban anyone you need to sort out rules for members and none members in the channel 22:09:05 <Chris_Booth> and treat people fairly 22:09:16 <Chris_Booth> did i ever say ban anyone? 22:09:26 <Chris_Booth> I said you have banned me unjustly 22:09:53 <Ammler> but you compared with a member, that is simply not feasable 22:10:19 <Chris_Booth> no i compared with any member 22:10:50 <Ammler> if you compare with me, we never can ban someone again 22:10:55 <Chris_Booth> I never said one member had done anything as bad as i have 22:11:47 <Chris_Booth> I said that one more than one occasion members have done thing worse than I have 22:12:09 <Chris_Booth> I also think that what you members did behind my back was unjust and uncalled for 22:12:14 <Chris_Booth> putting all the blame on me 22:12:51 <Chris_Booth> That was rather petty and very very disgraceful. 22:13:42 <Ammler> yes, still doesn't allow you from joining again 22:14:45 <Chris_Booth> why not? I can change my IP when I like. Spike wouldn't talk to me about the ban 22:14:56 <Chris_Booth> that meant i took it into my own hands 22:16:06 <Ammler> the ban is against you, not your IP 22:16:19 <Chris_Booth> as far as I am concerned I think that your ban is poppy cock and means nothing as I think I did nothing wrong. 22:16:34 <Ammler> so that is like I tell you leave my house and don't come back 22:16:47 <Ammler> but keep the door open, would you enter again? 22:16:50 <Chris_Booth> and until I get a proper explanation I will join as much as I like 22:17:09 <Chris_Booth> If you leave that back door open why not? 22:17:26 <Ammler> because you aren't wanted? 22:17:48 <Ammler> if I know, you don't like me to sit at your table, I wouldn't 22:18:05 <Chris_Booth> If someone wanted to getting in your house that badly telling them to get out isn't going to stop them 22:18:05 <Ammler> I don't need to be closed out 22:18:42 <Chris_Booth> I would have left myself if you asked now i just want to come back and annoy you 22:18:48 <Chris_Booth> It is way more fun 22:18:56 <Ammler> well, anyway, also if the ban isn't correct, it is decided 22:19:07 <Chris_Booth> and I still have no real reason why you 'members' banned me 22:19:20 <Ammler> and if you break it again, we will setup global ban... 22:19:43 <Chris_Booth> well maybe you should do that now? As you know I will break it again 22:20:09 <Ammler> no, I still hope, you will come down and behave nicely 22:20:40 <Chris_Booth> Well that isn't going to happen unless you give me a proper reason or unban me 22:20:58 <Chris_Booth> so we seem to be at a rather stick stale mate my good friend Ammler 22:21:05 <Ammler> the reason is given and unban won't happen in next time 22:21:16 <Ammler> yes we are :-) 22:21:52 <Chris_Booth> the reason was never given 22:21:55 <Ammler> I know, the ban was correct, it is documented on our internal board. 22:22:14 <Chris_Booth> all i was ever told was if i don't behave i will be banned by you 22:22:42 <Chris_Booth> then V453000 try to ban me can't work out how so ^Spike^ bans me 22:22:45 <Ammler> you got other messages from others per query 22:23:35 <Chris_Booth> I never. I got one warning when planetmaker took away me @op status as V453000 asked him to. 22:23:46 <Chris_Booth> I am still have not clue why that happened 22:23:52 <Ammler> and the worst is, you didn't excuse, you rather don't accpet it happen 22:24:26 <Chris_Booth> I don't excuse it as i was never asked to. 22:24:55 <Ammler> :-) we need to ask you for an excuse? 22:25:02 <Ammler> then the excuse is quite useless 22:25:22 <Chris_Booth> I except it happened, but I think you are wrong and it was unjust 22:25:33 <Chris_Booth> The reason given was total shit 22:25:34 <Ammler> you might be right 22:25:49 <Ammler> but that still doesn't allow you from joining again 22:25:59 <Chris_Booth> and the people concerned only ever had one side of the story 22:26:24 <Chris_Booth> Its like killing someone with asking them why or what they did 22:26:43 <Chris_Booth> this make #openttdcoop look like china 22:27:26 <Ammler> well, the ban might be to hard at the time it happen, but the behavior now does make it good 22:27:34 <Chris_Booth> (I did like my china reference), been wanted to get china into the argument for ages 22:28:10 <Ammler> he #openttdcoop isn't anarchy, the members rules 22:28:46 <Chris_Booth> All I ever want was the reason why and I may have said okay I was wrong, lets call it a day and I will leave 22:29:06 <Ammler> so I can life with the comparison to China :-) 22:29:35 <Chris_Booth> On the other hand now I am just upset as you behavior, and the behavior of others 22:29:52 <Ammler> yeah, we too about yours 22:30:16 <Chris_Booth> you 'can live life in comparison to china' your English is rubbish today 22:31:32 <Chris_Booth> my behavior could have been stopped, if I was told why you banned me when i asked 2 days ago. 22:31:46 <Ammler> hmm, I mean, your comparison of #openttdcoop to China is fine by me 22:32:06 <Chris_Booth> And then when I asked ^Spike^ today. 22:32:37 <Ammler> Chris_Booth: if you need the reason for the ban, it is like you don't feel guilty, that gives us right. 22:33:50 <Chris_Booth> No I don't fell guilty for telling a player that they are rubbish and that there massively over sized stations and MLs which are built with excess TF are stupid and I hate them. 22:34:27 <Chris_Booth> Since one of the server rules is don't terraform excessively 22:36:37 <Ammler> I fully agree, but you could have said it with other words, as said, I wouldn't mind, but others, specially newbies do. 22:36:56 <Chris_Booth> well good for them. 22:37:35 <Ammler> if I would, you would get a ban for the first words you made in this channel this nigt :-) 22:38:24 <Ammler> such words are usually worth a ban 22:38:24 <Chris_Booth> then ban me 22:38:42 <Ammler> no, I like you :-P 22:39:51 <Chris_Booth> then don't ban me. Just leave me alone and don't make an unfair example or me 22:40:29 <Ammler> indeed 22:41:11 <Chris_Booth> I am glad you agree with me 22:42:12 *** Ammler has left #openttdcoop.pro 22:50:48 *** Booth has joined #openttdcoop.pro 22:50:52 <Booth> hi Chris_Booth 22:59:22 *** Chris_Booth has quit IRC 23:01:15 *** ^Spike^ has quit IRC 23:05:20 *** Booth has quit IRC 23:55:12 *** KenjiE20 has quit IRC