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Log for #openttdcoop.pro on 8th December 2010:
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18:17:32  <V453000> !info
18:17:32  <ProZone> V453000: #:1(Orange) Company Name: 'Fuwood Transport'  Year Founded: 1980  Money: 38714751422  Loan: 0  Value: 38719602994  (T:1040, R:0, P:0, S:0) protected
18:17:38  <V453000> :)
19:29:58  <uliko> wE
19:30:05  <uliko> We'll beat your PS train count eventually dont worry :p
19:37:50  <V453000> you are expected to I suppose :)
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20:38:47  <XeryusTC> V453000: the network just needs some _minor_ tweaks
20:38:55  <V453000> :)
20:55:56  <XeryusTC> uliko: ping
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20:57:21  <uliko> pong!
20:57:39  <V453000> moo
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20:58:08  <ProZone> <uliko> Ok 300 trains lets do this! :p
20:58:22  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> might be possible
20:58:28  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> if they're coal trains :P
20:58:30  <V453000> TL4, suckers :p
20:58:48  <ProZone> <uliko> TL4 is the longest enjoyable tbh
20:58:58  <ProZone> <uliko> Also we can just strategically place SLHs to help our cause
20:59:00  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> tl5 is fine too
20:59:03  <V453000> but true that TL4 take the same signal space as TL5 does
20:59:33  <ProZone> <uliko> I dont mind the signal gap as much, it's just the curves are too long at CL5
21:00:07  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> true, curves are better at max cl3
21:00:13  <ProZone> <uliko> There isnt really any challenge because no matter what it turns out huge with those CLs, cant try to be sneaky and fit something in the middle
21:01:09  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> added some steel trains :)
21:01:53  <V453000> TL3 ftw :)
21:02:02  <Razaekel> no no
21:02:04  <Razaekel> Tl1 ftw
21:02:06  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> TL2 ftw!
21:02:09  <Razaekel> TL1!
21:02:21  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> we should do like a 2TT on 256x256 after this
21:02:22  <V453000> TL666!
21:02:44  <ProZone> ***  made screenshot at 0001A0FD: http://ps.openttdcoop.org/prozone/webcam/0001A0FD.png
21:02:45  <Razaekel> the smallest map is 64x64 isn't it?
21:02:47  <ProZone> <uliko> TL2 is fun
21:03:17  <ProZone> <uliko> Too small
21:03:52  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> 128x512 might be fun :P
21:04:03  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> basicly the same as this, but only half the distance in each direction :P
21:04:11  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> and half train size too :P
21:04:42  <V453000> I dont remember a 128*512 to be played tbh
21:04:53  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> me neither
21:05:21  <V453000> -> Y :)
21:05:42  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> hmm, i'll start upgrading all primaries to 4 lanes :P
21:05:54  <ProZone> <uliko> So what's the most important thing to fix? Steel still?
21:06:02  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah
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21:06:19  <ProZone> <uliko> I'll let you do that or I'll have to suffer V's wrath even more :p
21:06:39  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> fix steel? me?
21:06:49  <ProZone> <uliko> The station ;)
21:06:54  <V453000> my wrath? wtf?
21:08:12  <ProZone> <uliko> You kept hating on the PSB/2-way eol saying it was bad(true)/boring so I'll let XTC build his style entries instead
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21:09:28  <V453000> PSB doesnt seem to be boring, it even looks nice, but it just doesnt work :)
21:09:39  <V453000> 2way eol is at least doing what it is expected to
21:10:37  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> uliko: could you watch the network for jams please
21:10:43  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i'm making stations bigger and adding trains :P
21:11:46  <ProZone> <uliko> Well all the joins on the center ML to the original 2 tracks still have enormous waiting times while 3rd is pretty much free
21:12:08  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah, you can expect that when you add lanes later on
21:12:28  <ProZone> <uliko> As long as we still have min profit I'm happy :p
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21:20:13  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> 1100+ trains already ;)
21:21:23  <ProZone> <uliko> Did a more appropriately sized prio at BBH04 inner lane
21:21:29  <ProZone> <uliko> Hopefully should help a bit
21:21:31  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> good :)
21:21:42  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> brb, beer
21:23:32  <V453000> \o/
21:24:03  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> back
21:24:26  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> wow, this beer is almost see through :o
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21:31:38  <ProZone> <uliko> So far so good at least
21:31:53  <ProZone> <uliko> And I'm suprised the new BBH lane from middle to west is actually getting traffic
21:31:59  <ProZone> <uliko> I thought it would be a ghost town
21:32:17  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah, fortunately it does
21:32:23  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> and exactly what it needed to do
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21:33:32  <ProZone> <uliko> BBH03 is starting to feel the extra load
21:33:44  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> ok, i'll stop then
21:33:51  <ProZone> <uliko> Well its not that bad yet
21:34:01  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh, it was already like that before :P
21:34:12  <ProZone> <uliko> :p
21:35:42  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh, slh 12 is jammed xD
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21:37:00  <ProZone> <uliko> That new ML got full quite fast
21:37:16  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> western ML can take double the load
21:37:23  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> eastern even more :P
21:37:37  <ProZone> <uliko> Double being a bit optimistic :p
21:38:11  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> maybe a bit, but it is quite possibly possible
21:38:35  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oil goods trains werent forced to take east back too
21:39:01  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> so i added it, it might be possible that the middle gets less load now :)
21:39:15  <ProZone> <uliko> Maybe we should force them
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21:39:28  <ProZone> <uliko> Oh you just did :p
21:39:30  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah, i do already
21:39:33  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> but with the wrong WP
21:39:41  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> they still go through bbh4 :o
21:39:49  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> which might not actually be that bad
21:40:15  <ProZone> <uliko> We'll find out
21:42:26  <ProZone> <uliko> Uhm
21:42:30  <ProZone> <uliko> BBH03
21:42:36  <ProZone> <uliko> There is something fishy going on
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21:42:50  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> signal :P
21:43:04  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> should be less fishy now :P
21:43:14  <ProZone> <uliko> :p
21:43:19  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> already spotted that but didnt really bother to fix it :P
21:44:41  <ProZone> <uliko> Yeah BBH07
21:45:06  <ProZone> <uliko> I knew it was going to come back and bite us in the ass when I did that quick 2->2 choice thing
21:45:16  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> hmm?
21:45:18  <ProZone> <uliko> Needs proper 2->4 in both directions
21:45:38  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh
21:45:46  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah, that's quite bad :P
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21:46:59  <ProZone> <uliko> Lets start with the easy one first
21:47:49  <ProZone> <uliko> I hate that there is no full speed 3 tile bridge
21:48:17  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> jup
21:48:20  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> use a tunnel :P
21:48:49  <ProZone> <uliko> I do but it requires more terrain juggling
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21:52:40  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> hmm, bbh4
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21:52:53  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> nees a bypass into  bbh 10
21:53:09  <ProZone> <uliko> Bypass what?
21:53:19  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> from the east of bbh4
21:53:22  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> to the west of bbh10
21:53:27  <ProZone> <uliko> Nono
21:53:30  <ProZone> <uliko> Thats just me
21:53:33  <ProZone> <uliko> Cutting up the ML down at 07
21:53:44  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh xD
21:53:47  <ProZone> <uliko> :p
21:53:51  <ProZone> <uliko> Temp fixed it
21:54:01  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> needed to switch trains around
21:55:03  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> hmm, slh 12 is quite a bit too busy now :P
21:55:33  <ProZone> <uliko> Dont make any changes yet until we see what happens when I fix 07
21:55:40  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> ok
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21:58:59  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> eleviating the stress from slh 12 anyway
21:59:06  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i guess its just because of too many trains atm
21:59:20  <ProZone> <uliko> Ok half done at 07
21:59:22  <ProZone> <uliko> Now just southbound
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22:03:17  <ProZone> <uliko> Has most of it cleared?
22:03:51  <ProZone> <uliko> So
22:04:01  <ProZone> <uliko> Not a single oil goods train
22:04:04  <ProZone> <uliko> Travel north by SLH 11
22:04:31  <ProZone> <uliko> Oh wow
22:04:33  <ProZone> <uliko> Hahaha
22:04:45  <ProZone> <uliko> I totally missed the connection in BBH 06
22:05:04  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> which one?
22:05:10  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh, to turn right xD
22:05:12  <ProZone> <uliko> Trains coming south cant go north
22:05:30  <ProZone> <uliko> No wonder 04 got so busy
22:05:44  <ProZone> <uliko> When trains have to go right at 06, through 04->01->Waypoint->04->01 and so on
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22:06:42  <ProZone> <uliko> No wonder some hubs feels so easy to amke :p
22:06:48  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> :D
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22:13:44  <ProZone> <uliko> Man ctrl is a terrible KVM switch key when playing ottd
22:13:58  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> rofl
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22:17:58  <ProZone> <uliko> Ok that should do it
22:18:39  <ProZone> <uliko> 04 back to normal
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22:23:17  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> good :)
22:24:00  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> still a jam at !this :o
22:24:18  <ProZone> <uliko> Yeah only fixed the northbound so far
22:24:42  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i think that i'll expand the south drop to 2 lanes
22:24:48  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> but first more beery goodness :)
22:25:08  <ProZone> <uliko> I'll fix up 07 to fix that nasty 2->1
22:25:43  <ProZone> <uliko> Hmm
22:25:49  <ProZone> <uliko> Also the eastern turn sucks
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22:29:50  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh man, what's with the transparent beer today :(
22:29:56  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> got a 4 pack of special beers
22:30:12  <ProZone> <uliko> Would you prefer glowing beer? :p
22:30:14  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> the first half is transparent as glass :o
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22:40:13  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> hmm, i quite like my creation for that entry on the south drop :D
22:40:25  <ProZone> <uliko> :)
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22:44:00  <ProZone> <uliko> :o
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22:44:40  <ProZone> <uliko> 07 getting there slowly
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22:47:02  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> south drop upgraded more :)
22:47:28  <ProZone> <uliko> Seems to need more :p
22:47:38  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah
22:48:19  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> or that was because of the jam when there was only one exit line :P
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22:55:23  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> south drop seems fine
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22:58:12  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> stupid random missing signals :s
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22:59:55  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> wow
23:00:03  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> stuff is massively jammed now
23:00:09  <ProZone> <uliko> Yeah its 07
23:00:15  <ProZone> <uliko> Southbound still only 1 lane
23:00:21  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> yeah
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23:03:25  <ProZone> <uliko> Care to move Pardingworth Woods? :p
23:03:39  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i can :)
23:03:58  <ProZone> <uliko> Just 1 tile should do it I think
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23:06:29  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> how's that :)
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23:11:11  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh, forgot to remove the station
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23:13:08  <ProZone> <uliko> I have this merger in my head I want to try out but I dont think there's enough space :/
23:13:18  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> well, kick stuff around :P
23:14:29  <ProZone> <uliko> Only worked in my head
23:14:32  <ProZone> <uliko> In practice it was huge
23:14:42  <ProZone> <uliko> Maybe with shorter TL
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23:24:48  <ProZone> <uliko> sohteuasotheu
23:24:52  <ProZone> <uliko> Angry
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23:34:17  <ProZone> <uliko> Ok time to finish this hub
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23:36:34  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> oh right
23:36:38  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> i was also playing this :P
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23:41:50  <ProZone> <uliko> Haha
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23:51:10  <ProZone> <uliko> Bah dont do that :p
23:51:16  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> why not?
23:51:22  <ProZone> <uliko> I dont want the choice that far away
23:51:48  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> but there is not really a need to  have lines rejoin for half a tile to split them again
23:52:06  <ProZone> <uliko> Now 2 trains can queue for one lane
23:52:08  <ProZone> <uliko> When the other is free
23:52:34  <ProZone> <XeryusTC> true, but with the current traffic it wont matter too much
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23:59:00  <ProZone> <uliko> So close
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