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00:00:45 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:01:30 <Vornicus> no, trackerless BT is peer to peer. 00:01:41 <Bjarni> In 2006, 500ft elevated 'stunt tracks' with massive ski-jumps are introduced. <--- now they have to hurry. They only got 9 months to complete them :p 00:01:42 *** dp_ [n=dp@p54B2D7FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:01:55 <uatec> what else is? 00:02:00 *** Volny_CZ [i=Petr@a04-0419a.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:02:18 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D937.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:08:06 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 00:13:58 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D84D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:14:01 *** dp_ is now known as dp-- 00:14:26 *** Head [n=Head___@Pa0c0.p.pppool.de] has left #openttd ["Verlassend"] 00:16:59 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B37110.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:20:54 <BFM> Bjarni, :D 00:26:04 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:26:06 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a46c41.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:37:41 <eQualizer> Quick poll: How many of you is using UTF-8 charset at mirc? Hands up. \o 00:44:51 <ln-> \o 00:44:55 <ln-> no, not mirc 00:45:00 <ln-> just irc 00:46:38 <blathijs> I don't know what charset I'm using 00:46:45 <blathijs> not mIRC anyway 00:46:54 * FauxFaux isn't, but that's because irssi in debian stable sucks. 00:47:08 *** FauxFaux|| [i=Miranda@cpc2-cove3-0-0-cust376.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:47:39 * Vornicus uses UTF-8 00:47:46 <Vornicus> but I'm in xChat Aqua. 00:49:54 <FauxFaux||> Opera uses UTF-8. 00:59:16 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:59:38 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 01:04:41 <uatec> i hyave a group of planes, and some of them have greenspots by them and some of them have grey spots... 01:04:45 <uatec> what's that about? 01:05:16 <glx> green spot mean positive profit and more than 3years old 01:05:22 <uatec> ah 01:05:34 <uatec> and grey? 01:05:46 <glx> grey spot mean too young too have profit status 01:05:52 <uatec> ah 01:06:00 <glx> there's also red spot 01:06:08 <glx> for negative profit 01:06:59 <uatec> fortunately i don't have any of those :) 01:11:23 <BFM> I use Chatzilla! It's a mod for Firefox :D 01:11:32 *** fusey [n=fusion@220.142.171.66.subscriber.vzavenue.net] has joined #openttd 01:11:39 *** FauxFaux|| [i=Miranda@cpc2-cove3-0-0-cust376.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has left #openttd [] 01:15:54 *** FauxFaux [n=faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:16:46 <uatec> i use irssi cos it's really unintrusive 01:18:10 *** FauxFaux [n=faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 01:31:05 *** Andrew67_ [n=andrew67@206.248.85.67] has joined #openttd 01:37:42 <eQualizer> ...yes. Irc, not mirc. But I used the word mirc at the other channel, and it was close to irc, so I accidently mixed the word. Probably would have used irssi instead of irc over there, if I would have said that at the other channel instead of mirc. :f 01:38:16 <eQualizer> Anyway, off to bed now. I slept only 6 hours last night. And been up already over 18 hours. 01:48:25 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.85.67] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:53:35 *** Andrew67_ is now known as Andrew67 01:54:24 *** glx2 [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 01:58:30 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 01:59:59 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 02:00:25 *** glx2 is now known as glx 02:01:20 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 02:02:02 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:16:40 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176119057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 02:23:07 *** Andrew67 [n=andrew67@206.248.85.67] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:31:47 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:32:01 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 02:46:09 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 02:46:14 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:47:33 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 02:48:08 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:52:15 <uatec> what's up with this replace train thing 02:52:26 <uatec> it says that it's doing something, but just doesn't... 03:01:25 <BFM> Train replace is an AWESOME feature. The dude who wrote the code should be number 2 in the HALL OF AWESOMENESS, just behind Steve Erwin, The crocodile hunter! 03:01:36 <uatec> lol 03:01:42 <uatec> have you seen dr dolittle 2? 03:02:06 <uatec> anyway, i started a train replace 2 years ago, but it's not replaced any trains 03:02:57 <DiabloD3> they have to go to a depo, uatec 03:03:13 <uatec> they have been 03:03:28 <uatec> they go for a service once a year 03:03:34 <DiabloD3> who knows 03:03:59 <BFM> How strange. It should work as soon as they report in to the depot 03:04:56 <BFM> One thing with train replace, is that, do you get a refund for the OLD train that gets replaced? When I activated auto-replace, I only noticed the negative dollars rising from the depot as each train was replaced.... 03:05:53 <DiabloD3> you get the sell price back 03:05:59 <DiabloD3> which is usually very low for old trains 03:08:14 <uatec> hrm.. i wonder what's better... 03:08:32 <uatec> dinger 200 or dinger 1000 03:08:59 <DiabloD3> depends 03:09:05 <uatec> on? 03:09:17 <DiabloD3> how busy the airporti s 03:10:07 <uatec> err, it varies 03:10:36 <uatec> i've got 22 dinger 200s and dinger 1000s, serving 11 international airports 03:11:04 <uatec> weird 03:11:19 <uatec> there's a clear pecking order 03:11:29 <DiabloD3> dinger 1000s go faster 03:11:34 <DiabloD3> but dinger 200s old more 03:12:05 <uatec> some plans make in excess of 0.000 a year, regularly 03:12:14 <uatec> and others make ,000 a year, regularly 03:15:21 *** BurtyB [n=chris@adsl.chrisburton.info] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:15:26 <uatec> planes replaced themselves quickly 03:16:38 <uatec> unfortunately it will take me a while to figure out whether it was a good move or not 03:17:09 *** BurtyB [n=chris@adsl.chrisburton.info] has joined #openttd 03:21:23 <uatec> yup 03:21:26 <uatec> they make more money 03:33:13 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:33:52 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:36:14 *** glx_ [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:26 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 03:38:47 *** glx_ is now known as glx 03:39:35 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:39:39 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:42:49 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:42:59 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:46:19 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:47:57 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:48:32 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:48:38 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 03:50:40 <DaleStan> Problems, glx? 03:53:08 <glx> no trying different irc clients 03:54:44 <glx> and now going to sleep :) 03:54:52 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 04:01:03 <uatec> damn i really need to sort out my sleep patterns 04:01:25 <BurtyB> me too 04:04:05 <uatec> i need to stop playing ottd and stop watching stargate sg1 04:11:09 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:13:25 *** DiabloD3 [i=diablo@pool-64-222-243-87.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:13:59 *** DiabloD3 [i=diablo@pool-64-222-243-87.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:34:53 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:37:25 <uatec> dammit 04:37:34 <uatec> i need to replace my little airport with a proper international one 04:37:41 <uatec> but it's too damned busy 04:38:02 <uatec> there's no time when the airport doesn't have 4 planes on it 04:39:33 <uatec> dammit 04:39:38 <uatec> now there's 5 04:39:44 <BurtyB> blow them all up! 04:40:27 <uatec> :( 04:40:39 * BurtyB isnt much help i know 04:42:46 <uatec> fortunately they are all on a shared list, so i can just add loads more airports to the list, to thin the planes out a bit 04:44:24 <uatec> WTF? it doesn't say that they are shared orders 05:10:20 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:21:50 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:22:00 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 05:22:18 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 05:22:33 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:36:33 *** BFM [n=chatzill@CPE-60-229-122-250.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.68.5 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050919]"] 05:47:01 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 06:01:44 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:10:08 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 06:11:25 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:16:12 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:16:26 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D4CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:24:44 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@dslb-084-059-057-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:25:01 <gagarin_lg> hi 06:25:17 <ThePizzaKing> hi 06:25:33 <gagarin_lg> anyone of the devs here? 06:25:43 <gagarin_lg> I found a litte bug in the new settings thing 06:26:29 <ThePizzaKing> um, it might be a bit early for them 06:27:02 <gagarin_lg> okay 06:28:13 <Fujitsu> What is the bug? (I'm not a dev, but I'm interested :)) 06:28:46 <gagarin_lg> line 1107 in settings.c 06:29:08 <gagarin_lg> the the default Value of network_restart_game_date ist set to 1920 06:29:19 <Fujitsu> Hahah 06:29:31 <gagarin_lg> the effect ist, that in a network game you can play only one year and the map is restartet 06:29:32 <Fujitsu> Probably meant to be 0, ie. never... 06:29:40 <gagarin_lg> yes 06:30:28 <gagarin_lg> so it should be "SDTG_VAR("restart_game_date", SLE_UINT16, S, 0, _network_restart_game_date, 0, 0, MAX_YEAR_END_REAL, STR_NULL, NULL)," 06:30:51 <gagarin_lg> instead of "SDTG_VAR("restart_game_date", SLE_UINT16, S, 0, _network_restart_game_date, MAX_YEAR_BEGIN_REAL, MAX_YEAR_BEGIN_REAL, MAX_YEAR_END_REAL, STR_NULL, NULL)," 06:32:12 *** Singaporekid [n=notme@cm50.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 06:32:56 <gagarin_lg> I have to take my son to the kindergarten now. I'll join again later. 06:32:57 <gagarin_lg> bye 06:33:13 <ThePizzaKing> cya 06:33:14 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@dslb-084-059-057-252.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:33:49 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:35:36 *** Xeryus|bed is now known as XeryusTC 06:42:17 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 06:53:00 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:56:29 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 07:00:46 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:01:44 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:02:02 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|school 07:05:54 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:06:10 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 07:06:14 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 07:08:36 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:12:47 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8433E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:20:55 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:21:08 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 07:22:51 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:23:09 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 07:24:26 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B8433E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:25:48 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:43:18 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.19.210] has joined #openttd 07:51:12 <CIA-5> tron * r3779 /trunk/ (5 files): Move CheckTunnelInWay() to a more appropriate place, invert its result and give it a less ambiguous name (IsTunnelInWay) 07:52:34 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@phi03.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE] has joined #openttd 07:52:38 <gagarin_lg> hi 07:54:34 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 07:54:58 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 07:58:50 <gagarin_lg> is anyone of the devs here? 08:01:48 *** Aankhen`` [n=pockled@125.23.19.210] has quit ["Powercut [Time wasted online: 18mins 40secs]"] 08:02:22 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 08:06:22 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 08:08:53 *** DiabloD3 [i=diablo@pool-64-222-243-87.port.east.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:09:40 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Reason: My sister broke the router"] 08:11:56 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:17:06 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498D937.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:17:21 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 08:17:35 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 08:18:16 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498FB2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:43 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:19:01 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 08:25:35 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 08:25:49 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 08:27:28 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host81-156-99-107.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:27:34 <AlexFili> hey folks 08:28:08 <ThePizzaKing> hey 08:30:28 <AlexFili> it really sucks not being able to host stuff on the internet 08:31:05 <Fujitsu> ? 08:31:15 <AlexFili> basically 08:31:19 <AlexFili> all my ports seem to be blocked 08:31:23 <AlexFili> cos of a stupid firewall in my router 08:31:31 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:31:47 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 08:32:53 <Fujitsu> Unblock the ports? 08:33:36 <AlexFili> Fujitsu how lol 08:33:53 <Fujitsu> AlexFili, what model is the router? 08:34:09 <AlexFili> BT 1500 wireless 08:34:11 <AlexFili> Voyager 08:34:44 <Fujitsu> Well, try going to the configuration page. There should be something about port forwarding. 08:35:00 <AlexFili> yeah 08:35:01 <AlexFili> that doesnt work 08:35:09 <Fujitsu> It should! 08:35:12 <AlexFili> not a single bit i change affects anything i do 08:35:14 <AlexFili> seriously 08:35:30 <AlexFili> i'll send u a screenshot 08:35:41 <Fujitsu> What port do you want to forward? 08:35:55 <AlexFili> 3979 08:35:59 <AlexFili> the one that lets me play openttd 08:36:08 <Fujitsu> You want to go /out/? 08:36:16 <Fujitsu> Not let others in? 08:36:28 <AlexFili> um 08:36:32 <AlexFili> i just need to open the port 08:36:37 <AlexFili> so that it can be used 08:36:42 <AlexFili> because at the moment, it wont let me use it 08:36:48 <AlexFili> http://www.sitesled.com/members/alexfili/helpme.JPG 08:36:51 <AlexFili> heres how its set up 08:36:52 <Fujitsu> Do you want to connect to a game, or host the game? 08:36:57 <AlexFili> HOST 08:37:12 <Fujitsu> OK. 08:37:15 <Fujitsu> Hmm. 08:37:49 <gagarin_lg> do you have a static ip? 08:37:50 <Fujitsu> As long as the internal and external IPs are correct, that should be fine... 08:37:55 <AlexFili> :S 08:37:59 <AlexFili> im pretty sure they are 08:38:37 <gagarin_lg> start a command shell in you windows and run ipconfig 08:38:44 <gagarin_lg> there you can see your ip 08:38:54 <gagarin_lg> ^ your local ip 08:40:11 <AlexFili> nope 08:40:14 <AlexFili> still doesnt work 08:40:30 <AlexFili> do i need to change the internal/external port? 08:40:44 <gagarin_lg> no. 08:40:49 <Fujitsu> How are you checking? 08:41:01 <AlexFili> https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?rh1dkyd2 08:41:20 <AlexFili> also i can see on openttd that its doing the 3 search thing 08:41:24 <AlexFili> where it searches 3 times then stops 08:42:05 <Fujitsu> I can't ping you... It may be that the router is dropping pings, though. 08:42:33 <Fujitsu> Does ShieldsUp report 81.156.99.107 as the IP? 08:42:39 <AlexFili> yeah 08:43:28 <Fujitsu> Very odd. 08:43:31 <AlexFili> :S 08:43:33 <AlexFili> u tell me 08:43:46 <AlexFili> i tried opening ports 0 to 1000 08:43:48 <AlexFili> that wont work either 08:43:51 <AlexFili> its just so stupid 08:44:07 <AlexFili> even if i disable my ip filter, it still doesnt work 08:44:19 <AlexFili> i dunno what the hell i have to do now 08:44:54 <Fujitsu> You are actually running OpenTTD as a server, I hope? 08:45:04 <AlexFili> well 08:45:06 <AlexFili> i tried it 08:45:10 <AlexFili> but it just gives me the 3 search bug 08:45:35 <AlexFili> it doesnt even appear on the main list 08:46:11 <AlexFili> i'll send u what the open ttd debuging window says 08:46:40 <Fujitsu> OK... 08:47:01 <AlexFili> http://www.sitesled.com/members/alexfili/helpme2.JPG 08:47:20 <AlexFili> is it meant to say 0.0.0.0? 08:47:58 <Fujitsu> Probably means it is listening on all interfaces... 08:48:07 <AlexFili> oh ok 08:48:11 <Fujitsu> Although I'm not sure. I don't have any experience with serving OpenTTD games. 08:48:14 <AlexFili> :S 08:48:19 <Fujitsu> Aha. 08:48:24 <AlexFili> ? 08:48:24 <Fujitsu> I think I see your problem. 08:48:26 <AlexFili> :o 08:48:39 <Fujitsu> Your IP is 192.168.1.2, not 192.168.1.1 08:48:49 <AlexFili> um yeah i know 08:49:00 <AlexFili> i entered it again, but that didnt do anything either 08:49:06 <Fujitsu> OK. 08:49:09 <Fujitsu> Very strange. 08:49:38 <AlexFili> tell me about it 08:49:41 <Fujitsu> Have you got any other services that open ports on that machine? 08:49:42 <AlexFili> i spend all last night trying to solve this problem 08:49:48 <AlexFili> no idea 08:53:13 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host81-156-99-107.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:55:21 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-144-251.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 08:55:31 <AlexFili> I JUST OPENED LOTS OF MY PORTS! :o 08:55:53 <AlexFili> i was using that test site and it said 'if you enable the ip of this site, your boxes will change color' 08:56:00 <AlexFili> and from 1 to 1000 almost each one changed to blue 08:56:07 <AlexFili> but theres 3 red ones :o 08:59:17 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Reason: My sister broke the router"] 09:14:44 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:14:58 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:03 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:17:46 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 09:17:57 <AlexFili> TrueLight!!! 09:18:07 <AlexFili> guess who? lol 09:18:10 <TrueLight> I think that was a very wrong action 09:18:18 * TrueLight is no knows as TL|Away 09:18:30 <AlexFili> lol 09:18:36 <AlexFili> i tried again with the ports 09:18:42 <AlexFili> ok 09:18:51 <AlexFili> so i can work out how to turn them from 'stealth' into 'closed' 09:18:54 <AlexFili> but how do i open them? :S 09:19:39 <TrueLight> Try the keyhole 09:19:42 <AlexFili> lol 09:20:04 <AlexFili> hang on 09:20:13 <TrueLight> AlexFili: we have been over this already multiple times.... you have to do that yourself, somehow in your router 09:20:17 <TrueLight> we can't help you with that 09:20:20 <AlexFili> :s 09:20:24 <Fujitsu> Yes, that's right. 09:20:26 <AlexFili> but ive tried everything 09:20:33 <AlexFili> but it wont let me open the ports 09:20:36 <TrueLight> Clearly not enough 09:20:39 <AlexFili> it just, un-stealth's them 09:20:41 <TrueLight> and what do you expect from us here? 09:20:49 <AlexFili> provide moral support? :s 09:20:50 <TrueLight> That we take our magic stick and make it to work? 09:20:53 <Fujitsu> Are all of the ports now closed, or just a couple you have specified? 09:20:56 <TrueLight> AlexFili: sure: YOU CAN DO IT! 09:20:59 <TrueLight> YOU CAN DO IT!!! 09:21:01 <AlexFili> well 09:21:10 <AlexFili> i un-stealthed all the ports 09:21:16 <AlexFili> some of them are open 09:21:30 <AlexFili> but none of them near 3979 09:21:35 <AlexFili> some of them are like around 100 etc 09:21:51 <AlexFili> and it wont let me change the ottd port to that number 09:21:52 <Fujitsu> Are you actually running OpenTTD as a server while you run ShieldsUp? 09:22:05 <AlexFili> no, why? 09:22:27 <Fujitsu> You need to, AlexFilI! 09:22:36 <AlexFili> :s 09:22:41 <AlexFili> it just gives me the 3 search thing 09:22:47 <AlexFili> http://www.sitesled.com/members/alexfili/helpme2.JPG 09:22:50 <Fujitsu> Otherwise it will be closed, as there is nothing there to connect to. 09:22:53 <Fujitsu> Yes, run the server. 09:22:55 <AlexFili> TrueLight, this is what you mean right? 09:22:59 <Fujitsu> Then run ShieldsUp. 09:23:15 <AlexFili> WHOA WHOA WHOA 09:23:17 <AlexFili> OMG OMG OMGO MG OMG 09:23:24 * TrueLight shots AlexFili with a big bugs 09:23:25 <AlexFili> we are advertised on the master server!!!! 09:23:29 <AlexFili> !!!! :D :D :D :D :D 09:23:35 <AlexFili> w0000000000t 09:23:36 <TrueLight> you told me yesterday that your PC had the internet IP 09:23:40 <TrueLight> now you are here telling me it has a local IP 09:23:44 <TrueLight> really... :s 09:23:44 <AlexFili> I DID IT!!!!! 09:23:48 <AlexFili> yahoooooooooooooooooo 09:23:53 * AlexFili breaks open the champagne 09:24:09 <AlexFili> AH 09:24:13 <AlexFili> 3979 is open on shieldup now :D 09:24:16 <AlexFili> YAHOOOO 09:25:11 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:25:37 * Prof_Frink hacksaws 09:25:38 <AlexFili> ThePizzaKing, i got my TTD working! :D 09:25:56 <ThePizzaKing> that's good news 09:26:10 <AlexFili> can someone try and join my server 09:26:13 <AlexFili> to see if it works? 09:26:49 <ThePizzaKing> what version? 09:26:54 <AlexFili> latest 09:27:00 <AlexFili> not nightly build though, just normal 09:27:01 <gagarin_lg> TrueLight, there is an error in settings.c 09:27:30 <ThePizzaKing> ok 09:27:38 <ThePizzaKing> what's the server? 09:27:42 <gagarin_lg> network_restart_game_date ist default on 1920 09:27:42 <AlexFili> AlexFili Server 09:27:58 <gagarin_lg> so everey network game ist restartet after one year of playing 09:28:14 <TrueLight> gagarin_lg: good for you ;) :p Hehe :) Sorry, I am not in active stage of developing :) Report it via bugs.openttd.org 09:28:22 <gagarin_lg> ok 09:28:31 <TrueLight> it smells bad anyway :) 09:28:36 <AlexFili> hey ThePizzaKing, are you joining now? 09:28:39 <TrueLight> so bug peter1138 or Tron about it ;) 09:28:42 <AlexFili> i see an ip ending with 206 09:28:43 <ThePizzaKing> AlexFili: You're still running 0.4.0.1? 09:28:47 <AlexFili> um 09:28:52 <AlexFili> the latest version on the openttd site 09:29:09 <ThePizzaKing> 0.4.5 is the latest 09:29:15 <AlexFili> well 09:29:19 <AlexFili> whatever the lastest is, i have it 09:29:23 <AlexFili> oh wait 09:29:24 <AlexFili> hang on 09:29:25 <AlexFili> :o 09:29:32 <AlexFili> 0.4.0.1 09:29:36 <AlexFili> :s when was the new one released? 09:29:37 <Fujitsu> :O 09:29:41 <Fujitsu> A month ago. 09:29:43 <Fujitsu> Or so. 09:29:45 <AlexFili> eh 09:29:46 <AlexFili> thats odd 09:29:51 <AlexFili> i thought i had the latest version 09:29:59 <AlexFili> everyone cancel 09:30:01 <Prof_Frink> But anywaym 'latest' is not a version number 09:30:36 <AlexFili> thats odd... 09:30:39 <AlexFili> 0.4.0.1 :S 09:30:48 <AlexFili> i only just got this a few days ago 09:31:11 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498FB2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 09:31:40 <AlexFili> i cant believe i finally got it working :D 09:31:49 <AlexFili> thanks so much TrueLight 09:31:51 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498FB2A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:31:55 <AlexFili> and to everyone else that helped too 09:32:19 <TrueLight> AlexFili: send flowers 09:32:21 <AlexFili> lol 09:32:27 <AlexFili> hang on 09:32:58 <AlexFili> http://www.atpm.com/11.02/nature/images/pinky-flowers.jpg 09:33:01 <AlexFili> there ya go, knock yourself out 09:33:07 *** emuzesto [i=einarfa@jaguar.stud.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 09:33:17 <peter1138> send money 09:33:21 <ThePizzaKing> those flowers are awesome 09:33:27 <AlexFili> peter1138, im playing a DOS game, doesnt that tell you how much money i have? 09:33:28 <peter1138> like £650000 09:33:34 <peter1138> dos game? 09:33:47 <AlexFili> TTD = dos game 09:33:51 <AlexFili> even tho this is a windows port lol 09:33:53 <peter1138> ottd != dos game 09:33:58 <AlexFili> ottd isnt 09:33:59 <AlexFili> but ttd is 09:34:03 <peter1138> hmm 09:34:05 <AlexFili> ah ok 09:34:06 * peter1138 ponders djgpp... 09:34:08 <AlexFili> i have 0.4.5 now :D 09:34:24 <peter1138> besides 09:34:26 <Fujitsu> Why DJGPP? 09:34:26 <AlexFili> i'll host again 09:34:32 <peter1138> rich people get rich by not wasting money :) 09:34:35 <AlexFili> HOLY SHIT 09:34:40 <AlexFili> a fuck load of servers just came up!!! 09:35:03 <AlexFili> no wonder they were all red on my last version, it was out of date!!! 09:35:05 * AlexFili slaps himself 09:35:22 <peter1138> Fujitsu: first dos c compiler that sprang to mind :) 09:35:33 <AlexFili> ok guys 09:35:34 <AlexFili> im hosting again 09:35:39 <Fujitsu> Urgh. 09:35:45 <AlexFili> it should work 100% now 09:36:43 <AlexFili> OIMG 09:36:45 <AlexFili> SOMEONE JOINED M GAME 09:36:54 <ThePizzaKing> it was me 09:36:56 <KUDr> was me 09:37:00 <KUDr> from telnet 09:37:05 <KUDr> to test your port 09:37:12 <KUDr> and it works! 09:37:19 <AlexFili> IT WORKES :D 09:37:35 <KUDr> congrat Alex! 09:38:14 <AlexFili> hehe 09:39:08 <ThePizzaKing> I made a bus route :) 09:39:12 <AlexFili> hehe 09:39:16 <AlexFili> i found a good coal place 09:39:30 <AlexFili> no sabotaging k? :p 09:40:36 <ThePizzaKing> yeah 09:46:20 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:46:22 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:46:36 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 09:47:54 <AlexFili> wow 09:47:58 <AlexFili> that clone train thing is awesome! 09:48:16 <Fujitsu> That's the point, AlexFili. 09:48:18 <AlexFili> :D 09:48:26 <AlexFili> i love openttd 09:48:36 <AlexFili> not sure about the transparent station names though 09:48:38 <Fujitsu> That's the point, AlexFili. 09:48:43 <Fujitsu> What's wrong with them? 09:48:44 <Hendikins> I'm bored. Anyone up for a game in a little while? 09:48:44 <AlexFili> its annoying if theres something behind it 09:48:51 <AlexFili> like 09:48:56 <AlexFili> i have a piece of track behind it 09:48:57 <Fujitsu> They are off-turnable, AFAIK, AlexFili. 09:49:10 <AlexFili> aj 09:49:11 <AlexFili> ah 09:49:14 <AlexFili> station names displayed 09:49:14 <AlexFili> thanks 09:54:37 <Tron> j 09:55:34 <Fujitsu> Very good, Tron. 09:55:45 <Fujitsu> I have never heard anything more intelligible. 09:55:47 <AlexFili> im doing the transport tycoon dance to the main music :D 09:55:56 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:56:10 *** stefan [n=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 09:57:58 *** stefan [n=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:58:16 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has joined #openttd 10:00:27 <Hendikins> No takers for a game? 10:00:36 <Tron> Fujitsu: "j" is an alias for "jobs", which i accidently wrote in the wrong window 10:01:04 <Fujitsu> Ahh. 10:01:20 <AlexFili> lol 10:01:29 <AlexFili> Hendikins, im playing in a massive game at the moment :p 10:18:50 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 10:19:36 <AlexFili> hey you know 10:19:42 <AlexFili> i could host a transport tycoon quiz if you want? 10:19:48 <AlexFili> all i have to do is make some questions 10:22:28 *** Nubian [n=nubian@mrkvovy.kokotko.sk] has joined #openttd 10:40:59 *** emuzesto [i=einarfa@jaguar.stud.ntnu.no] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 10:51:13 *** TPK [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:58:11 *** Celestar [n=Jadzia_D@129.187.69.146] has joined #openttd 10:58:17 <Celestar> bah dis sucks 10:58:22 <AlexFili> whats wrong Celestar? 10:59:19 <Celestar> working on elrails 10:59:46 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-144-251.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:00:28 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host81-156-97-133.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:00:36 <AlexFili> Starting the trivia. Round of 5 questions. = $did(850)strivia to stop. Total: 5 11:00:51 <AlexFili> 1. Trains: What date was Floss 47 designed? 11:01:11 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:01:22 <TPK> is it 1264 ? 11:01:31 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 196_ 11:01:37 *** KUDr_wrk [n=KUDr@pcsousek.fit.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 11:01:44 <AlexFili> just type in the answer 11:01:51 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 1963 11:01:55 <AlexFili> >_< 11:01:58 <TPK> 1963 11:02:01 <AlexFili> Winner: TPK Answer: 1963 Points: 1 Rank: 1st 11:02:05 <AlexFili> that hint is a bit too obvious lol 11:02:07 <TPK> wooooo 11:02:12 <AlexFili> 2. Trains: What date was Chaney Jubilee designed? 11:02:31 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:02:34 <TPK> before 2000 11:02:38 <Prof_Frink> It's variable 11:02:41 <AlexFili> yeah 11:02:43 <AlexFili> its a number 11:02:44 <AlexFili> you just have to guess 11:02:51 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 193_ 11:03:11 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 1934 11:03:13 <Prof_Frink> 1934 11:03:17 <AlexFili> Winner: Prof_Frink Answer: 1934 Points: 1 Rank: 1st Previously: 2nd 11:03:17 <AlexFili> Prof_Frink has moved up in rank: 1st 11:03:28 <AlexFili> 3. Trains: What date was Ginzu A4 designed? 11:03:47 <Prof_Frink> 1952 11:03:48 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:03:50 <TPK> 1921 11:03:58 <AlexFili> lol TPK you are way off 11:04:05 <TPK> meh 11:04:07 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 193_ 11:04:11 <AlexFili> i dont think trains existed in 1921 11:04:12 <Prof_Frink> 1937 11:04:28 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 1935 11:04:30 <Prof_Frink> 1935 11:04:33 <AlexFili> Winner: Prof_Frink Answer: 1935 Points: 2 Rank: 1st 11:04:44 <AlexFili> 4. General: What port does OpenTTD use for online play? 11:04:50 <Prof_Frink> 3979 11:04:53 <AlexFili> Winner: Prof_Frink Answer: 3979 Points: 3 Rank: 1st 11:04:53 <AlexFili> You're on fire! 11:04:54 * AlexFili hands Prof_Frink a cold beer for getting the last 3 questions! 11:05:01 <Prof_Frink> Or whatever you specify 11:05:04 <AlexFili> 5. Trains: What date was SH 8P designed? 11:05:24 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:05:37 <Prof_Frink> 1958 11:05:44 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 195_ 11:06:04 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 1955 11:06:06 <Prof_Frink> 1955 11:06:09 <AlexFili> Winner: Prof_Frink Answer: 1955 Points: 4 Rank: 1st 11:06:09 <AlexFili> Stopping the trivia. = $did(850)trivia <number> to restart. 11:06:09 <AlexFili> You're on fire! 11:06:16 <Prof_Frink> What a difficult quiz. 11:06:24 <AlexFili> i'll add some easier questions next lol 11:06:36 <AlexFili> unless you were being sarcastic? lol 11:06:37 <Prof_Frink> Questions that are accurate might help 11:06:52 <AlexFili> accurate? 11:07:02 <Prof_Frink> Seeing as the introduction dates can vary by something like 512 days in any game 11:07:15 <AlexFili> really? :S 11:07:18 <Prof_Frink> Yup 11:07:28 <AlexFili> :s 11:07:32 <AlexFili> i thought they always came at the same time 11:07:37 <Prof_Frink> Ask DaleStan for the exact values 11:08:00 <AlexFili> http://www.transporttycoon.net/ttvehicle?units=imperial&type=trains&climate=standard&version=deluxe&sort=designed 11:08:02 <AlexFili> what about this site? 11:08:18 <Prof_Frink> That's the median date, it varies around that 11:08:48 <AlexFili> ok 11:08:59 <Prof_Frink> So, for example, I have had the 737 introduced before the 727 11:09:08 <AlexFili> :o 11:09:47 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:09:55 <TPK> woooo 11:09:57 *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing 11:10:17 <Prof_Frink> ThePizzaKing: ever heard of NickServ and the GHOST command? 11:10:25 <ThePizzaKing> no 11:13:58 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 11:18:28 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:19:22 * Celestar thinks now that elrail data will be stored somewhere and not computed on-the-fly 11:24:47 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:25:15 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@phi03.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:25:20 *** ThePizzaKing [n=chatzill@c211-28-155-206.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Reason: My sister broke the router"] 11:25:27 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@phi03.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE] has joined #openttd 11:25:52 *** DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:02 *** stefan [i=stefan@home.stefan.id.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:28:10 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B842D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:31:07 <peter1138> 1. Features: Who wrote new stations support for OTTD but didn't commit it? 11:32:34 <Tron> hm? 11:33:06 <AlexFili> um, no idea lol 11:33:32 <peter1138> me! 11:33:48 <AlexFili> oh lol 11:36:00 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [") td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ ("] 11:37:05 <AlexFili> ok 11:37:10 <AlexFili> i made some more questions 11:37:29 <AlexFili> Starting the trivia. Round of 1 questions. = $did(850)strivia to stop. Total: 34 11:37:39 <AlexFili> Stopping the trivia. = $did(850)trivia <number> to restart. 11:37:45 <AlexFili> Starting the trivia. Round of 34 questions. = $did(850)strivia to stop. Total: 34 11:38:01 <AlexFili> 1. Trains: What approximate year was Kirby Paul Tank designed? 11:38:18 <Prof_Frink> Fish go moo! 11:38:21 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:38:41 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 193_ 11:39:01 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 1934 11:39:29 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8433E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:39:31 <AlexFili> Time's up! The answer was: 1934 11:39:41 <AlexFili> 2. Trains: What approximate speed of the Lev1 Leviathan(in mph)? 11:39:45 <peter1138> *yawn* 11:39:53 <peter1138> can you, perhaps, stop that? 11:40:01 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 2__ 11:40:10 <AlexFili> but some people might want to play :p 11:40:21 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 25_ 11:40:41 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 250 11:41:11 <AlexFili> Time's up! The answer was: 250 11:41:21 <AlexFili> 3. Trains: What approximate year was SH '40' designed? 11:41:40 * Prof_Frink seconds peter1138's opinion 11:41:41 <AlexFili> Here's a hint, 19__ 11:41:47 <AlexFili> fine lol 11:41:50 <AlexFili> Stopping the trivia. = $did(850)trivia <number> to restart. 11:46:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> [07.03. 12:33] <peter1138> 1. Features: Who wrote new stations support for OTTD but didn't commit it? <- someone who better starts committing ;) 11:48:48 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-036-25.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:48:51 *** Spocoo [i=Spoco@dsl-083-102-036-25.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:49:19 <AlexFili> lol 11:49:34 <AlexFili> so peter1138, what exactly do you mean by new station support? 11:50:38 <Fujitsu> Why didn't you commit it? 11:51:11 *** Spocoo [i=Spoco@dsl-083-102-036-25.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 11:53:35 *** Fujitsu [n=fujitsu@c211-28-183-112.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Bye all."] 11:54:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> AlexFili: newstations: http://www.ewetel.net/~michael.blunck/ttd/newstations_readme_en.html 11:56:15 <AlexFili> lol 11:56:19 <AlexFili> peter1138, you dont get out much do you? :p 11:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter did not make the newstations set... 11:56:44 <AlexFili> lol 11:56:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> peter works on making OTTD able to use that set 11:57:07 <AlexFili> oh lol 11:57:13 <AlexFili> i guess hes not that bad then ;) 12:00:59 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host81-156-97-133.range81-156.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 12:07:15 <eQualizer> <BFM> Train replace is an AWESOME feature. The dude who wrote the code should be number 2 in the HALL OF AWESOMENESS, just behind Steve Erwin, The crocodile hunter! <--- Yeah, but autorenew doesn't work for those replaced vehicles. You have switch the patch off and on after replacing the vehicles. 12:08:14 <Hendikins> ^ And Steve Irwin is an idiot. I don't know an Aussie who likes the guy (myself included) 12:08:37 <eQualizer> Who is he? Never heard of him. 12:09:32 <peter1138> nice 12:09:42 <peter1138> and switching the patch off and on does precisely what? 12:10:18 <Hendikins> eQualizer: Mentioned, with incorrect spelling, in the above quote. 12:11:30 <eQualizer> peter1138: Makes sure your new vehicles gets autorenewed automaticly when they get old enough. Otherwise they just keep going withouth autorenewing. 12:12:20 <peter1138> i don't see how turning it off and on again will affect it 12:12:49 <eQualizer> Well, works for me. :) 12:14:54 <peter1138> also, have you considered posting a full and proper bug report? 12:22:26 *** alastair [n=agh@220-244-72-6.static.tpgi.com.au] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:22:43 *** dfox [n=dfox@r2p136.chello.upc.cz] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:26:28 <SpComb> what music do openttd people listen to? 12:27:14 <peter1138> pixies atm 12:27:40 <Singaporekid> Elakelaiset! 12:27:40 <peter1138> ok, that wtf doesn't bear looking at 12:32:01 <SpComb> the SQL-results-into-a-file thing? 12:37:01 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:39:30 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 12:43:10 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:44:05 <peter1138> yeah 12:44:51 <Tobin> Ahoy people. 12:46:02 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 12:50:51 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:54:13 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:59:10 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B84F60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:03:17 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 13:06:23 <Celestar> peter1138: this is getting difficult :P 13:10:46 *** Singaporekid is now known as DeadSkiddles 13:12:10 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B842D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:12:26 *** DeadSkiddles is now known as Skiddles^ 13:14:08 <peter1138> hmm 13:14:21 <peter1138> just the drawing stuff? 13:15:52 <Tron> Celestar: ? 13:16:28 <Tron> SetSignalsOnBothDir(tile, (p2 & 1) ? 2 : 1); 13:16:44 <Tron> does this make any sense? (from the rail depot build code) 13:17:29 <peter1138> yes 13:17:35 <Tron> ok, then explain 13:17:39 <Tron> 2 is TRACK_UPPER 13:17:41 <Tron> 1 is TRACK_Y 13:17:52 <Tron> p2 & 2 is the axis of the depot 13:17:58 <Tron> p2 & 1 13:18:11 <peter1138> er 13:18:22 <Tron> and why _OnBortDir_ 13:18:30 <Tron> last time i checked depots had one entrance 13:18:50 <peter1138> hmm. point 13:18:52 <Tron> and further: how can placing a depot affect signals? 13:18:56 <peter1138> 1 : 0 would make more sense 13:19:14 <peter1138> Tron: they can place track bits in front of themselves 13:19:22 <Tron> peter1138: this is done later 13:19:34 <Tron> check rail_gui.c for this 13:19:43 <peter1138> oh 13:19:47 <peter1138> hmm 13:19:56 <Tron> this isn't even in the same command 13:20:00 <Tron> it's done via a callback 13:20:06 <peter1138> in that case 13:20:07 <peter1138> pass 13:20:07 <Tron> rail_gui.c:101 13:20:09 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81193.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:20:54 <Tron> at the very least it should be 13:21:06 <Tron> UpdateSignalsOnSegment(tile, depot_direction); 13:21:25 <Tron> DiagDirToDir(depot_direction), to be precise 13:21:44 <Tron> but i want to change the second parameter of UpdateSignalsOnSegment to be a DiagDir instead of a Dir 13:27:06 <peter1138> right 13:27:21 <peter1138> it can't affect signals... 13:27:52 <peter1138> it could only possibly have affected pbs signals, but even then i'm not sure 13:30:04 <peter1138> 1 truelight SetSignalsOnBothDir(tile, (p2&1) ? 2 : 1); 13:30:05 <peter1138> :) 13:30:35 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B84F60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:31:07 <TrueLight> haha, old export 13:31:09 <TrueLight> tnx for triggering my name 13:31:26 <peter1138> heh 13:31:31 <peter1138> you're weclome :) 13:31:33 <peter1138> and welcome 13:31:38 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has joined #openttd 13:34:46 <Celestar> Tron: I'm trying to write a elrail drawing code without having 100+ ifs or switches 13:35:25 <Tron> Celestar: pm? 13:36:14 <Tron> Celestar: pm? 13:37:01 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:37:06 <Celestar> whats wrong? 13:39:08 *** glx__ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:45 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Client Quit] 13:39:55 *** glx__ is now known as glx 14:08:07 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:19:53 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 14:31:59 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 14:32:04 <MeusH> hello 14:36:52 <MiHaMiX> okay 14:37:13 <MiHaMiX> wiki, translator, docs and nightly will disappear for a few hours 14:37:21 <MiHaMiX> due to complete server reinstall 14:37:29 *** mode/#openttd [+o TrueLight] by ChanServ 14:37:42 *** TrueLight changed the topic of #openttd to: Some services will be down for the next few hours || Website: *.openttd.org (Translators: translator, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs) 14:37:45 <TrueLight> ;) 14:39:24 *** emuzesto [i=einarfa@jaguar.stud.ntnu.no] has joined #openttd 14:44:41 * MeusH will hibernate and wait server to be running again 14:44:50 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has left #openttd [] 14:44:50 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 14:55:13 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 15:00:29 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:00:44 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc2-shep3-4-0-cust174.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:07 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 15:01:30 <Belugas> Hello :) 15:04:37 *** emuzesto [i=einarfa@jaguar.stud.ntnu.no] has quit ["leaving"] 15:04:51 *** glx_ [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:05:52 *** Xeryus|school is now known as XeryusTC 15:05:56 <XeryusTC> hi all 15:07:08 *** glx [n=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [] 15:08:07 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:08:25 *** gagarin_lg [n=gagarin@phi03.physik-pool.TU-Berlin.DE] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:08:30 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACC8C1CB.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 15:08:40 *** glx_ is now known as glx 15:16:32 *** Volny [i=Petr@a04-0419a.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 15:16:48 <C-Otto> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah the wiki is down. 15:16:55 <C-Otto> oh, topic 15:32:06 <TrueLight> it almost sounds like your life just ended 15:32:08 <TrueLight> t 15:32:15 <TrueLight> -t 15:32:17 <TrueLight> stupid NX 15:32:26 <Qball> maybe it did 15:32:43 <Qball> he might have a brain link to wiki. 15:34:56 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7CB5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:36:49 <Skiddles^> Gah, why does he always come when I go to sleep? 15:36:50 <Skiddles^> :P 15:37:35 <Skiddles^> Oh well, goodnight 15:37:37 *** Skiddles^ [n=notme@cm50.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has left #openttd ["Raah"] 15:54:26 <MeusH> DarkVater: Have you seen http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=23842 ? 15:54:30 <MeusH> It's really awesome 15:57:36 <MiHaMiX> hm, looks great :) 16:00:54 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Cya layer"] 16:02:54 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5360.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 16:11:50 <Belugas> the name of the day after wednesday is "thursday", right? 16:12:08 <glx> yes 16:12:14 <Belugas> gracias :) 16:12:15 <hylje> usually 16:23:55 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B73BB6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:24:16 *** Marctraider [n=Marctrai@ip5451b61a.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:12 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has joined #openttd 16:32:44 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:33:29 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B8135D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:35:31 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-140-54-98.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:35:34 <AlexFili> hi folks 16:39:44 <Marctraider> hi 16:39:52 <Marctraider> so how is newgrf support in openttd now? 16:40:14 *** dfox [n=dfox@r2p136.chello.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 16:42:17 <AlexFili> not sure sorry 16:43:20 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:45:03 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B7384F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:45:21 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81193.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:55:55 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:56:44 *** _gass_ [n=any@81.84.150.171] has joined #openttd 16:57:01 <_gass_> hello there 16:58:30 <AlexFili> hi gass 16:58:36 <AlexFili> dont expect many responses here :p 16:58:43 <_gass_> someone here told me a link to a package (tar ou zip) of .grf and audio files for open ttd 16:58:55 <_gass_> is that someone here? 16:58:59 <hylje> no 16:59:00 <_gass_> AlexFili: why? 16:59:22 <AlexFili> _gass_, most of these people are idlers 16:59:23 <_gass_> i have always been well treated here 17:00:04 <AlexFili> yeah :) 17:00:11 <AlexFili> i didnt say they would treat you bad 17:00:20 <AlexFili> im just saying, dont expect a response from 25% of the people here lol 17:00:38 <TrueLight> _gass_: more luck for those files on the forum 17:00:45 <hylje> 25 nicks would be a flood already 17:00:50 <hylje> :-) 17:01:09 <AlexFili> lol 17:01:15 <TrueLight> (Searching before asking always is a good idea ;)) :) 17:01:22 <_gass_> TrueLight: thanks ... 17:01:25 <_gass_> see AlexFili 17:01:35 <_gass_> TrueLight: TRUE .. but :( 17:01:43 <AlexFili> lol 17:01:49 <AlexFili> im so happy i can host games 17:01:51 <TrueLight> _gass_: it can never be hard to find that, because it is pretty clear where they are :p 17:01:52 <Prof_Frink> _gass_: topic #3407 17:01:52 <AlexFili> and ive got the latest version 17:01:54 <AlexFili> with clone trains :D 17:01:56 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has joined #openttd 17:02:42 <peter1138> "http://www.google.com/search?q=download+transport+tycoon" 17:03:23 *** Diablo-D3 [i=diablo@pool-64-222-243-87.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:03:43 * Vornicus blargs, can't seem to get into an ottd game lately. 17:03:49 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-140-54-98.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:04:00 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176119057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:04:44 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:09:19 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 17:12:47 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 17:23:56 *** stavrosg_ [n=stavrosg@athedsl-64446.otenet.gr] has joined #OpenTTD 17:26:01 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has joined #openttd 17:30:06 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53589039.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:30:10 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:31:30 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-10425.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:38:59 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:40:30 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:42:19 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:44:53 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@12-202-240-195.client.insightBB.com] has joined #openttd 17:49:05 *** Marctraider [n=Marctrai@unaffiliated/Scenariusz] has quit ["Polskie '<' :p :D"] 17:55:06 *** jnmbk [n=ugur@85.104.149.10] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:02:31 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:03:00 <ln-> http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/screenshots.html 18:06:35 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:06:40 <hylje> :> 18:08:00 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:10:06 <MiHaMiX> ok, bugs.openttd.org also works 18:10:12 <MiHaMiX> only wiki is down 18:19:28 <MiHaMiX> ok 18:19:30 <MiHaMiX> wiki is UP 18:20:39 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 18:20:43 *** MiHaMiX changed the topic of #openttd to: Website: *.openttd.org (Translators: DOWN, Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs) 18:21:32 * Eddi|zuHause tries wether DOWN.openttd.org works ;p 18:21:44 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause: :P 18:22:02 *** mouse [n=mouse@213.232.194.242] has quit ["ðÏËÉÄÁÀ"] 18:22:40 *** MiHaMiX changed the topic of #openttd to: Good services except for translator, which is DOWN | Website: *.openttd.org (Gameservers: servers, Nightly-builds: nightly, WIKI: wiki, SVN mailinglist: maillist, Dev-docs: docs) 18:24:32 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176099231.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:24:45 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 18:27:32 <_gass_> MiHaMiX: are they all diferent servers? 18:27:50 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: no :) 18:28:01 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: they are on 2 different servers 18:28:25 <_gass_> and why are some down, and some up? ... ah ... 18:28:35 <_gass_> different 18:28:36 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: wiki, nightly, translator and docs are on the same server 18:28:51 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: i've reinstalled the server which hosts the above services 18:28:55 <_gass_> i see ... 18:29:07 <MiHaMiX> but now it should work except for translator, which is under development 18:30:27 <_gass_> MiHaMiX: just for base for comparing ... is that server in some datacenter? 18:30:35 <_gass_> rented? 18:31:11 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: no, this is on a university server 18:31:32 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: so it's not rented, but not very official :D 18:31:45 <_gass_> ah ... ok 18:32:46 <MiHaMiX> _gass_: the server is a dual opteron box with 4G ram and gigabit ethernet, in case you're wondering about the hardware :) 18:35:52 <_gass_> lol 18:36:09 <_gass_> MiHaMiX: that's not a good hardare 18:36:27 <_gass_> hardware 18:36:30 <_gass_> that's a fine one 18:36:30 <_gass_> got to go 18:36:30 <_gass_> brb 18:37:53 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176119057.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:41:17 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: good to see you here 18:41:50 <Bjarni> about the OS coulomb on flyspray... 18:43:12 <Bjarni> the flyspray guys called this addition rev 565 18:44:25 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: ping 18:44:33 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: pong. 18:44:38 <Bjarni> ahh good 18:44:42 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: msg 18:44:43 <Bjarni> you didn't leave :) 18:45:25 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: i didn't 18:49:55 <Born_Acorn> This is not a joke! Every year that everyone in here doesn't give me £100, a patch of rainforest 100 square kilometers is burnt down! 18:50:21 <BurtyB> cool, that means more space to build my mcdonalds 18:50:35 * Bjarni kicks BurtyB 18:50:43 <Bjarni> next time I will even use /kick 18:50:47 <BurtyB> sorry i thought that was the way it worked 18:51:09 * Bjarni kicks McDonald's 18:51:25 <Bjarni> they are so big that they can do legal crime 18:51:28 <Born_Acorn> If you have a McDonald's, won't it already have been built? 18:51:31 <Eddi|zuHause> Born_Acorn: that does not mean that this would change if someone donated that ;) 18:51:45 <Born_Acorn> Eddi|zuHause. Of course not, but it is the truth! 18:51:49 <Bjarni> for some odd reason they never lose money, but their income for taxation is always 0 18:51:58 <Bjarni> never -1 and never more than 0 18:52:42 <Eddi|zuHause> Bjarni: that is not actually crime... they just redistribute any income to the shareholders 18:52:58 <Bjarni> I said legal crime 18:53:18 <Bjarni> and no, the money do not end up at their shareholders 18:53:33 <Bjarni> they end up in a Swiss bank account or something like that 18:53:53 *** stavrosg_ is now known as stavrosg 18:53:54 *** DjViper- [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has joined #Openttd 18:53:55 <Eddi|zuHause> that may be possible, too 18:53:57 <Bjarni> they don't give dividend 18:54:19 <Born_Acorn> lets form a revoltion in Switzerland to become un-neutral, then they can take all the money for themselves! 18:54:31 <Born_Acorn> mwaahahahaa 18:54:35 <Eddi|zuHause> i only know that most big german companies do it that way 18:54:50 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 18:54:50 <Eddi|zuHause> like DaimlerChrysler, Deutsche Bank, ... 18:54:54 <MeusH> hi 18:54:58 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: DjViper 18:55:02 <Born_Acorn> (obviously Bjarni is a shareholder whohasn't got his money) 18:55:11 <Born_Acorn> In fact, he is the majority shareholder. 18:55:26 *** DjViper- is now known as DjViper 18:55:30 <Born_Acorn> My logic wins. 18:55:33 <Bjarni> I would not invest in McDonald's 18:56:05 <Bjarni> I don't do unethical investments 18:57:26 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: I see Wiki is up and running 18:57:41 <MeusH> are the security mods uploaded? 18:57:43 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: yes, but i'll work on wiki tonight 18:57:48 <MeusH> Bjarni: I don't like mcdonalds, too 18:58:35 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: I'll revert the shit, I just want to be sure I won't have to do it over and over again 18:58:56 <Bjarni> MeusH: when you like it, you like it too, but if you join a group, who don't like it, you don't like it either 18:58:57 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7CB5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:58:58 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: no, you won't have to do 18:59:08 <Bjarni> [/English lesson] 19:00:23 <Eddi|zuHause> intresting, i did not know that, Bjarni 19:01:28 <Eddi|zuHause> in german it is the same word... (too = auch, not ... either = auch nicht) 19:02:28 *** tiberiusteng [i=tiberius@211-74-178-119.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:03:18 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: do you mean there is a cool script that reverts such a changes? 19:03:48 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: no, I mean that I'll use one of the solutions you've sent me the other day 19:03:57 <MeusH> ah, yeah 19:04:33 <MeusH> Bjarni: So, "too" is for me only, while "either" applies to "us"? 19:04:46 <Bjarni> err, no 19:04:50 <Bjarni> that's not what I meant 19:05:33 <Bjarni> when you join a group, that goes pro something, you do that too, while if you go against it (like you don't do it), you don't do it either 19:05:33 <MeusH> anyway, "me too" or "I too"? I'd bet the first one, right? 19:05:36 <Eddi|zuHause> MeusH: no, he meant "too" is used when positive, and "either" when negative 19:05:50 <MeusH> oh, okay 19:06:23 <MeusH> so, let's say group likes A, and I don't like it. So "I don't like it either"? 19:06:26 *** glx is now known as glx|away 19:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause> no... 19:06:44 <MeusH> umm 19:06:52 <Bjarni> you don't join group A in not liking it since they like it 19:06:56 <Eddi|zuHause> "too" when A likes it, and you like it 19:07:03 <MeusH> yep 19:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause> "either" when A does not like it, and you do not like it 19:07:26 <MeusH> "either" when we all don't like it 19:07:37 <Eddi|zuHause> right. 19:07:39 <MeusH> great, thank you so much 19:07:50 <MeusH> belive me or not, but I know english only from computer 19:08:07 <MeusH> first dad helped me, then I learned everything on fora and irc channels 19:08:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i had english at school for 8 years... 19:08:17 <Bjarni> the important part is not to be the quickest learner, but instead to understand it in the end ;) 19:08:24 <MeusH> school english is at a really poor level 19:08:25 <Eddi|zuHause> but i only really learned it after i went online 19:08:44 <Eddi|zuHause> that was after school 19:09:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i was good in school... especially when it comes to grammar 19:09:26 <MeusH> I'm good in words 19:09:33 <MeusH> I know almost all words 19:09:38 <Eddi|zuHause> but you don't have any opportunity to practice the language 19:09:41 <MeusH> but the bad part is grammar 19:09:48 <Eddi|zuHause> so you don't build up an active vocabular 19:09:48 <MeusH> I usually confuse conditionals 19:09:53 <Eddi|zuHause> +y 19:10:01 <MeusH> yes Eddi, that's right 19:10:04 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> i was good in school... especially when it comes to grammar <--- that is what I was told, except in my case it was aimed at German 19:10:06 <Eddi|zuHause> conditionals are a pain ;) 19:10:18 <MeusH> Internet is the only way to practice the language skills 19:10:50 *** tiberiusteng [i=tiberius@211-74-178-119.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #openttd 19:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause> <MeusH> I know almost all words <- i learn a new word every now and then ;) 19:11:38 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944D43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:58 <MeusH> However I can't remember quite well how to say the pipe you insert to mouth to have air when diving 19:12:06 <MeusH> it is... 19:12:10 <MeusH> snorkel maybye? 19:12:27 <MeusH> lol, nevermind 19:12:28 <C-Otto> hi 19:12:37 <C-Otto> could you give me the picture of the "branch-merge-junction" please? 19:12:38 * MeusH starts saying strange things 19:12:41 <MeusH> hi C-Otto 19:13:36 * Eddi|zuHause must not miss gilmore girls 19:14:36 <C-Otto> gg rock. 19:14:44 <SpComb> gggg! 19:16:42 <CIA-5> rubidium * r3780 /branch/tfc_newmap/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [tfc_newmap] - Add missing casts in map functions 19:17:26 <ln-> newmap? 19:19:23 <MeusH> Bjarni or Truelight, may you enlight me with the newmap thingy? I must have missed a lot when I was gone away 19:19:26 <MeusH> what is the plan? 19:19:45 <TrueLight> MeusH: as Rubidium, or Belugas, or egladil, or glx|away ;) 19:19:48 <MeusH> is it be going to be merged when all developers agree, and when it works just like the current system? 19:19:51 <MeusH> okay 19:19:55 <MeusH> hey Belugas 19:20:00 <MeusH> remember me? ;) 19:22:47 <Belugas> heu... who are you ? 19:23:02 <Belugas> And why do you call my name? 19:23:27 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Cya layer"] 19:23:41 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 19:25:22 <Belugas> AS to answer your question, it is not decided yet. Tron is working with us, asking questions, proposing etc... So little by little, stuff is inserted. Even if it is not exactly what we wrote. 19:25:37 <MeusH> wow 19:25:45 <MeusH> you've got Tron's support, that's great 19:26:40 <MeusH> at the first relase, I assume typical player won't feel the difference from the current system 19:26:58 <MeusH> but it is going to ease the process of changing the map array, right? 19:27:03 <Belugas> Because there is no difference right now... 19:27:09 <hylje> infrastructure is important to develop 19:27:25 <Belugas> The big work will only begin when all accessors are inplace 19:32:01 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81FEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:35:18 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 19:39:38 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7EB8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:14 <SpComb> harvesting spam addresses? 19:42:27 <hylje> no. souls 19:42:30 <hylje> [evil laugh] 19:42:40 <BurtyB> hmmm spam 19:44:04 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B8135D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:50:27 <Bjarni> what exploit is he talking about? 19:50:55 <Diablo-D3> Bjarni: DCC SEND "string" 0 0 0 19:51:08 <Bjarni> what will it do? 19:51:22 <BurtyB> instant orgasm 19:51:26 <Bjarni> cool 19:51:30 <Bjarni> I better try that 19:51:36 <Diablo-D3> it fucks over third party firewalls on certain routers 19:51:50 <Diablo-D3> said routers run linux and can run iptables, so bonus points for double retardation 19:52:40 <Bjarni> why do we even allow security holes? 19:52:54 <hylje> nobody should allow them 19:52:58 <Bjarni> I mean why do we secure software: 19:53:08 <Diablo-D3> well, if they would have actually done what the fuck they were supposed to, we wouldnt have this problem 19:53:12 <Diablo-D3> iptables is immune to it 19:53:15 <hylje> its just that the holes always find their way to the product 19:53:25 <Bjarni> we can just make a law to send people, who exploit security holes to prison 19:53:28 <Diablo-D3> if you're building a router, and not using iptables, why the fuck even bother. 19:53:59 <BurtyB> Bjarni because people are fallible 19:54:42 <Diablo-D3> well 19:54:45 <Diablo-D3> theres "security issues" 19:54:52 <Diablo-D3> and then theres "total fuck ups a 3 year old could find" 19:55:02 <Diablo-D3> this one falls under the latter category. 19:55:32 <MiHaMiX> ok 19:55:45 <MiHaMiX> wiki will probably go down for an hour or so 19:56:10 <hylje> Diablo-D3: then theres the User Erros 19:56:12 <Diablo-D3> Bjarni: anyhow, routers using this firewall instantly reboot 19:56:13 <hylje> Errors* 19:56:37 <Diablo-D3> Bjarni: though some just kill the irc connection 19:57:03 <hylje> liek.. startkeylogger? ;) 19:57:30 <Diablo-D3> thats on a similar scale 19:57:36 <Diablo-D3> it'd cause norton firewall to go apeshit 19:59:21 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:00:39 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:01:07 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:01:15 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5.0.1/2006011112]"] 20:01:58 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #openttd 20:02:00 *** glx|away is now known as glx 20:12:11 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:14:43 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:17:39 *** axadhus [n=mav@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 20:19:20 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: let me know if there is anything new on the wiki :) 20:19:27 <MeusH> ie the authorising 20:21:57 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:36 *** Netsplit kornbluth.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: michi_cc 20:25:37 *** michi_cc [i=b112fe09@pdpc/supporter/student/michi-cc] has joined #openttd 20:27:39 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7EB8D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:28:10 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 20:29:31 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: are you here? :) 20:29:51 <MeusH> yep 20:30:28 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: msg 20:31:14 <MeusH> yeah, sure 20:31:26 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: i've sent you messages :) 20:32:16 <MeusH> yeah, I know 20:32:29 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: can you respond? :) 20:32:41 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: probably you need to identify 20:33:02 <MeusH> right, ty 20:33:07 <MiHaMiX> :) 20:33:22 <MeusH> done 20:33:45 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:42:54 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:45:14 *** znikoz2 [i=1@ant-118.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:56 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7FE82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:47:00 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:48:52 *** znikoz2 [i=1@ant-118.ug1.dp.ukrtel.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:53:07 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp15-66.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:57:56 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Cya layer"] 21:06:42 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:07:29 *** Scia [n=Scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["kwiet"] 21:09:31 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-a.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:10:01 <XeryusTC> hi all 21:10:55 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-223-141.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:01 <AlexFili> help 21:11:10 <AlexFili> my server is on openttd, but i cant find it in the multiplayer list anywhere 21:11:54 <XeryusTC> did you put advertizing on? 21:11:59 <AlexFili> yeah 21:12:08 <DjViper> did you open the port in your router? 21:12:09 <AlexFili> its on the openttd website under servers 21:12:14 <AlexFili> but, its not on the multiplayer list 21:12:41 <AlexFili> its a toyland server 21:12:45 <AlexFili> and the name is TOYLAND SERVER 21:12:49 <AlexFili> so it should be really easy to spot 21:13:13 <XeryusTC> does your router support loopback? 21:13:25 <AlexFili> i dunno 21:13:39 <AlexFili> i hosted OTTD before, and it workeed 21:13:57 <glx> 86.136.223.141? 21:14:08 <XeryusTC> try connecting to your server by using typing "open <address>" in the console 21:14:10 <AlexFili> yeah 21:14:12 <AlexFili> thats my ip 21:14:16 <glx> I see it 21:14:37 <AlexFili> you can, TOYLAND SERVER? 21:14:57 <glx> yes 21:15:01 <AlexFili> oh good lol 21:15:07 <AlexFili> i thought my ttd had messed up again 21:15:18 <AlexFili> so, does anyone want to play toyland#? 21:15:40 *** RoySmeding [i=1000@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:16:50 <XeryusTC> <XeryusTC> try connecting to your server by using typing "open <address>" in the console <- tried it? 21:17:18 <AlexFili> doesnt work 21:18:00 <XeryusTC> your router doesn't support loopback then 21:18:07 <XeryusTC> knowing that solves a lot of problems :P 21:18:21 <AlexFili> oh ok lol 21:18:30 <AlexFili> can someone try and connect to my server? 21:18:51 <XeryusTC> you have 0.4.5 or a nightly? 21:18:55 <AlexFili> 0.4.5 21:19:03 <AlexFili> glx said he could see it 21:19:04 <XeryusTC> ill try 21:19:14 <XeryusTC> im not playing though 21:19:14 <glx> but I use latest svn 21:19:31 <AlexFili> ok 21:19:36 <AlexFili> yay 21:19:37 <AlexFili> it works 21:19:42 <hylje> gz 21:19:43 <XeryusTC> im in 21:19:54 <AlexFili> come on, whats so bad about toyland? :S 21:19:59 <XeryusTC> nothing 21:20:02 <AlexFili> lol 21:20:04 <XeryusTC> don't have time to play 21:20:06 <AlexFili> everyone seems to hate it 21:20:07 <AlexFili> oh ok 21:20:11 <AlexFili> maybe some other time ;) 21:21:02 <XeryusTC> its only the sounds that everything makes, but i disabled those so there isn't a thing wrong with it now :) 21:21:15 <AlexFili> lol 21:21:17 <AlexFili> ok :p 21:23:56 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 21:24:04 <MeusH> hey 21:24:10 <AlexFili> hi 21:24:14 <AlexFili> MeusH wanna play? 21:25:03 <MeusH> no 21:25:06 <AlexFili> :( 21:25:10 <MeusH> my connection is crappy now 21:25:14 <AlexFili> anyone else wanna play? 21:25:21 <Turulo> hi AlexFili 21:25:22 <MeusH> In 8 hours maybye? ;) 21:25:26 <AlexFili> lol 21:25:26 <Turulo> i dont think so 21:25:28 <MeusH> hey MiHaMiX 21:25:32 <AlexFili> in 8 hours i will be asleep 21:25:43 <Turulo> why you dont play on any other server with players... 21:25:53 <AlexFili> because ive already started on the one im hosting 21:25:56 <AlexFili> lol 21:26:18 <Turulo> bad then 21:26:22 <AlexFili> ;p 21:26:44 <Turulo> did you talk to Sacro or found out something for the DS? 21:27:09 <AlexFili> who me? 21:27:20 <AlexFili> I posted a request on the openttd psp forum 21:27:23 <Turulo> yeps 21:27:31 <Turulo> and i replied you 21:27:47 <AlexFili> :o 21:27:51 <AlexFili> i havent read it in a while 21:27:51 <AlexFili> hang on 21:27:51 <Turulo> i thought you would be looking for sacro 21:28:16 <Turulo> i think he was trying to make the ds port... 21:28:27 <AlexFili> you are jaime? 21:28:33 <Turulo> yep 21:28:33 <AlexFili> WHOA! HE was?! :o 21:28:39 <AlexFili> sweet 21:28:42 <AlexFili> i would love to play it on DS 21:28:44 <MeusH> MiHaMiX: Sorry for that loong reboot, actually my internet connection went out so I had to reconfigure stuff 21:29:08 <Turulo> i dont really know, if he is still trying to port it.. 21:29:15 <AlexFili> "I could try do it, but i dont have a DS, also DS could introduce some limitations, due to small screen resolution (that would suppose a big gui code hacking), and it could also be little bit slow running the game due to its cpu power." 21:29:28 <AlexFili> the resolution isnt that much smaller then psps 21:29:42 <AlexFili> and the cpu power is good enough to run 3d stuff, so i dont see any problem there 21:29:45 <hylje> plus two screens 21:29:49 <Turulo> wel 21:29:51 <Turulo> well 21:29:59 <Turulo> what is the screen resolution? 21:29:59 <AlexFili> if you could put the map on the bottom screen, that would be awesome 21:30:06 <AlexFili> 256x192 i think 21:30:19 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: no prob 21:30:22 <Turulo> then its half thank psp 480x272 21:30:29 <MiHaMiX> MeusH: reident yourself and we'll continue :) 21:30:43 <AlexFili> Turulo maybe you could just have it normal resolution, but tall 21:30:51 <AlexFili> so the bottom screen is like the bottom half of it? or something lol 21:30:58 <Turulo> just think 21:31:02 <AlexFili> if you could put all the building icons on the bottom and click, that would be sweet 21:31:03 <Turulo> think on toolbar 21:31:12 <hylje> scale stuff down :> 21:31:17 <Turulo> and other economy windows 21:31:28 <Turulo> are at least 640 on width 21:31:45 <AlexFili> how does it fit on psp then? :o 21:32:02 <Turulo> well 480 isnt the same as 256 21:32:26 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Success] 21:32:26 <Turulo> just cutting some buttons, and reducing 2px on each for toolbar fits fine 21:32:37 <AlexFili> hmm 21:32:45 <Turulo> after that i needed to resize height of save/load windows 21:32:46 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe there should be a "standard-hack" whenever resolution is <640 21:32:47 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has left #openttd ["Hey"] 21:33:00 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 21:33:09 <Turulo> and economy windows use pc aspect ratio 21:33:20 <MeusH> hey MiHaMiX 21:33:25 <MeusH> I'm ready 21:33:27 <Turulo> but dont fit on psp screen, anyway you can move them arround to see the hole window 21:33:41 <hylje> then patch the econ windows to scale :-) 21:33:55 <Turulo> Eddi|zuHause i dont think there would be any possible for < 640 21:34:19 <Turulo> same gui hack for psp wont work fine onto ds 21:34:24 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 21:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause> why? 21:34:36 <hylje> ds will need special gui haxs 21:34:39 <Turulo> first of all, you should split toolbar into two lines 21:34:56 <hylje> its dual after all 21:35:16 <Turulo> Eddi|zuHause on handleds the best is using as much resolution as handled can 21:35:22 <Turulo> and it varies from each one 21:35:27 <AlexFili> since i own a DS, im happy to give you any specifics you need 21:35:32 <AlexFili> i can do some beta testing too :p 21:35:37 <Turulo> such as ds, has half resolution than psp but uses 2 screens 21:35:50 <AlexFili> i have a M3 custom cart, so i can run .nds files 21:36:07 <Turulo> Eddi|zuHause do you know if sacro is still looking for ds porting? 21:36:17 <hylje> perhaps the upper screen would be for data such as map, dialogs and touch for interactive stuff 21:36:18 <Turulo> AlexFili just try to talk sacro 21:36:26 <AlexFili> hmmm, i'll try 21:36:27 <Eddi|zuHause> why would i know that? 21:36:46 <Turulo> if you use to stay arround here, maybe you heard from him 21:37:25 <Turulo> hylje, that may suppose a heavy gui rehack, i can almost asure none of the openttd windows, will fit onto ds screen 21:37:38 <hylje> yep 21:37:54 <Turulo> gui for ds must be a pain 21:38:00 <hylje> would possibly need a smaller widget set 21:38:02 <Turulo> and cpu power could be an issue 21:38:20 <Turulo> as openttd doesnt use any graphics aceleration 21:38:38 <Turulo> unless nintento SDL lib port uses it, and i dont think so... 21:38:39 <AlexFili> how much harder would clicking a mouse be to pressing the touch screen? 21:38:39 <AlexFili> both detect presses in certain parts of the screen right? 21:38:54 <Turulo> AlexFili controls arent the matter 21:39:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but what i meant with "standard-hack" was actually, prepare the general OTTD gui to easily be changed for anything (or most things) that are necessary for low resolution 21:39:05 <Turulo> i can position mouse wherever you press on the screen 21:39:19 <Eddi|zuHause> so the port-people do not have to "hack", but merely adjust some options 21:39:37 <Turulo> that would be really a pain... 21:39:41 <AlexFili> if you treat the 2 screens as one big screen split in half, maybe that would be better 21:39:57 <Turulo> still width is the problem 21:40:08 <AlexFili> how hard is adding scroll bars? 21:40:14 <hylje> ui will need redesign 21:40:22 <hylje> for ds 21:40:27 <hylje> thats 4sure 21:40:39 <Turulo> AlexFili you mean scrollbars onto windows or for the screen? 21:40:44 <AlexFili> um yeah 21:40:50 <AlexFili> for the windows that are wider then the DS screen 21:40:53 <AlexFili> horizontal scrollbars? 21:41:08 <Turulo> you must redo the window widgets array 21:41:19 <Turulo> also implement code for scrollbar handling 21:41:31 <Turulo> and maybe resize around 20 or 30 windows 21:41:37 <Turulo> or maybe more.. 21:41:42 <AlexFili> :S 21:42:05 <Turulo> i just resized around 8 windows for psp, without scrollbars 21:42:09 <Turulo> that would be more code... 21:42:19 <Turulo> just wait for Sacro 21:42:23 <AlexFili> ok lol 21:42:28 <Turulo> he was trying to port it 21:43:00 <Turulo> maybe he could tell you if is possible or not, probably he got frustated (i would) 21:43:48 <Turulo> anyway you should get a psp 21:44:12 <Turulo> ds is just fine for nintendogs 21:44:17 <AlexFili> omg 21:44:26 <AlexFili> i thought you were a smart person 21:44:47 <Turulo> yeps, but not a nintendo fan 21:44:50 <AlexFili> you think resolution and processor is everything/ 21:45:03 <Turulo> i used to, when i were 8 years old 21:45:04 <hylje> its allabout design 21:45:22 <Turulo> that and the game marked 21:45:31 <Turulo> nintendo only makes kids games 21:45:39 <AlexFili> thats totally wrong 21:45:43 <AlexFili> resident evil is out on ds 21:45:43 <hylje> nintendo makes fun games 21:45:47 <hylje> :) 21:46:29 <Turulo> sure they are fun 21:46:40 <Turulo> but i prefer other game topics 21:46:48 <AlexFili> like? 21:47:04 <Turulo> simulation, shot em ups 21:47:22 <Turulo> and some strategy which psp hasnt ;( 21:47:38 <AlexFili> age of empires? :p 21:47:49 <hylje> command n conquer 21:47:52 <Turulo> i dont like that, is from m$ 21:47:56 <Turulo> but yes, kinda 21:48:00 <AlexFili> lol 21:48:06 <Turulo> more economic than war strategy 21:48:13 <AlexFili> i just want TTD on DS 21:48:15 <AlexFili> thats all :p 21:48:21 <hylje> youre one of the macro guys? 21:48:37 <hylje> as opposed to the micro guys 21:48:38 <Turulo> AlexFili just add sacro to your notify 21:48:44 <AlexFili> oh yeah 21:48:46 <AlexFili> i forgot about that 21:48:52 <Turulo> i think he was trying to port to ds 21:49:09 <Turulo> anyaway i could be wrong, but someone around here is trying to 21:49:10 <AlexFili> i know lol 21:49:14 <Turulo> hylje macro boy? 21:49:23 <hylje> macro - empire management 21:49:30 <hylje> micro - unit management 21:49:37 <AlexFili> i like economy games better then strategy 21:49:40 <AlexFili> but strategy is fun too 21:49:51 <Bjarni> <hylje> command n conquer <-- yeah, that's what I do in this channel 21:49:55 <Turulo> yes yhen i shold be, lol 21:50:57 <AlexFili> so anyway 21:51:04 <Turulo> Bjarni: do you remember if sacro was the one trying to make the ds port? 21:51:04 <AlexFili> how hard was it to port ttd to the psp? 21:51:09 <AlexFili> and who started the idea anyway? 21:51:09 <hylje> Bjarni: :-) 21:51:19 <AlexFili> how do i add someone to notify? 21:51:27 <AlexFili> oh 21:51:28 <AlexFili> never mind 21:51:28 <Turulo> not really hard, just some coffe cups 21:51:29 <Turulo> lol 21:51:30 <AlexFili> i just did it 21:51:54 <AlexFili> like i said, i have a DS and a custom cart, so i can do whatever beta testing is needed 21:52:00 <Bjarni> oh the first time I tried C&C in MP, I lost big time, but I did manage to get nukes, so when I realised that I had lost, I just nuked some spot in the black area where I presumed that the enemy base had to be 21:52:00 <AlexFili> just tell him that if u see him ;) 21:52:05 <Bjarni> and then I heard a scream 21:52:22 <Bjarni> I hit the construction yard and his only two heavy factories 21:52:25 <Turulo> ok, i will 21:52:30 <AlexFili> thanks ;) 21:52:36 <AlexFili> playing TTD on my DS would be sooooooo awesome 21:52:39 <AlexFili> :D 21:52:49 <hylje> bjarni, lucker :-) 21:53:12 <Bjarni> hehe 21:53:14 <Turulo> yes, playing openttd lying at bed is the best, lol 21:53:16 <Bjarni> I lost anyway 21:53:18 <AlexFili> besides, using the touch screen to drag section of rail would be so much better then whatever psp is using 21:53:27 <AlexFili> X+holdX+move+letgoofX? 21:53:37 <Eddi|zuHause> [07.03. 22:55] <Turulo> yes, playing openttd lying at bed is the best, lol <- i do that all the time ;) 21:53:51 <AlexFili> lol that would be awesome 21:53:55 <Bjarni> <Turulo> Bjarni: do you remember if sacro was the one trying to make the ds port? <-- no, but somehow I don't think it was him 21:54:02 <AlexFili> Bjarni :o 21:54:10 <Eddi|zuHause> only with my 21" monitor standing across the room ;) 21:54:37 <Turulo> lol, i thougt you was using a notebook 21:54:41 <AlexFili> Turulo are you jaime? 21:54:44 <Turulo> yes 21:54:57 <AlexFili> so, what part do you play in ottd psp? 21:55:11 <AlexFili> omg, wireless internet for ttd ds :o 21:55:18 <Turulo> just using the fabulous work of this guys 21:55:23 <Turulo> and adapting it for psp 21:55:28 <AlexFili> oh ok 21:55:31 <Turulo> mainly controls, wireless and some gui hacks 21:55:57 <AlexFili> Turulo, the ds firmware shouldnt be a problem, because i can run .nds files from my custom cart 21:56:11 <AlexFili> as long as the .nds file is ok, then theres no reason why it shouldnt execute 21:56:19 <AlexFili> so thats one barrier overcome :p 21:56:28 <Bjarni> what about keyboard? 21:56:28 <Turulo> yes i know there is scene for ds, well execution is far than playable 21:56:36 <AlexFili> yeah 21:56:37 <AlexFili> i see 21:56:56 <CIA-5> belugas * r3781 /branch/tfc_newmap/ (29 files in 3 dirs): [tfc_newmap] -Synch up to trunk r3778. MSV6 files will be wrong. Need to be fixed, but not now 21:56:58 <Turulo> from the firt time i got ttd executed to now... 21:57:10 <AlexFili> how long did it take you to get psp ttd done#? 21:57:11 <Turulo> first time executed but no controls available 21:57:12 <Turulo> lol 21:57:22 <Bjarni> now I have not read what you have written a moment ago, but I guess you are talking about porting OTTD to DreamCast, right? 21:57:27 <Turulo> that depend on how much spare time i have 21:57:28 <SpComb> ooh 21:57:31 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:57:37 <SpComb> why not port it to your local microwave? 21:57:44 <Turulo> Bjarni AlexFili wants the port for nintendo DS 21:57:46 <AlexFili> isnt dreamcast a dead console? no offence 21:57:48 <hylje> toaster 21:57:50 <AlexFili> Bjarni yeah i do 21:58:03 <Turulo> Anyway i think the dreamcast port is already done 21:58:13 <Bjarni> <AlexFili> isnt dreamcast a dead console? no offence <--- I have no idea. I don't want to own a console :p 21:58:16 *** BFM [n=chatzill@CPE-60-229-122-250.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 21:58:17 <Turulo> and it isnt still dead, there is a big community still coding for it 21:58:58 <Turulo> Bjarni since i found that using consoles was the only way to totally remove any m$ box from my house 21:59:00 <SpComb> http://qmsk.paivola.fi/pictures/computer/toaster.jpg 21:59:03 <Bjarni> hmm 21:59:06 <SpComb> toaster. 21:59:09 <Turulo> consoles are quite good for me 21:59:12 <SpComb> with toast in it 21:59:19 *** Cipri [n=cipri@a47034.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:59:21 <Bjarni> actually I have no idea what a nintendo DS is (besides being some sort of game console) 21:59:22 <AlexFili> Turulo i like consoles too 21:59:32 <SpComb> get OpenTTD to use AALib before you do anything else 21:59:37 <AlexFili> Bjarni its a games console with a touch screen and another screen as well 21:59:46 <Bjarni> nice 21:59:47 <Turulo> latest nintendo handled 21:59:52 <AlexFili> much better then a certain other handheld 21:59:53 <Bjarni> OTTD with touch screen :) 21:59:58 <AlexFili> yeah Bjarni i know :D 22:00:01 <AlexFili> and wireless internet :D 22:00:05 <Bjarni> did somebody port SDL to it? 22:00:09 <Turulo> yes 22:00:27 <Turulo> is already done, the guy trying to port it into ds told me 22:00:31 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD57729A7.access.telenet.be] has quit ["I seem to be off"] 22:00:34 <Turulo> that sdl was already ported 22:00:42 <AlexFili> what does that mena? 22:00:43 <AlexFili> *mean? 22:00:51 <Turulo> the graphics library used 22:00:54 <AlexFili> oh 22:00:57 <AlexFili> so thats one step right? 22:00:58 <Turulo> already exists on ds 22:01:06 <Turulo> should graphics wouldnt be a problem 22:01:12 <AlexFili> :) 22:01:14 <Bjarni> graphics+sound+controls 22:01:14 <AlexFili> great 22:01:20 <Bjarni> supporting makes porting much easier 22:01:24 <AlexFili> :D 22:01:27 <Turulo> well controls need to be redone on consoles 22:01:38 <Turulo> as sdl uses expects keyboard input 22:01:39 <AlexFili> the mouseclick isnt that different from the DS pointer 22:01:53 <Turulo> and i just got sfx working 22:01:59 <AlexFili> for ds? :o 22:02:01 <AlexFili> or psp? 22:02:13 <Turulo> Bjarni does background music work over sdl? 22:02:15 <SpComb> port openttd to commodore 64? 22:02:20 <SpComb> with network play 22:02:22 <Turulo> on psp just sfx works 22:02:28 <BFM> Sega game gear! 22:02:28 <AlexFili> oh, no music? :S 22:02:37 <Turulo> nope still... 22:02:42 <AlexFili> ah shame 22:02:48 <Turulo> Spoco go and port your toasts 22:02:48 <AlexFili> the music is one of the best bits ;) 22:02:48 <Turulo> lol 22:03:00 <Bjarni> Turulo: err... I'm not sure. I don't think the SDL midi patch ever got committed 22:03:10 <AlexFili> well 22:03:16 <Bjarni> I think it was buggy or sounded wrong or something like that 22:03:17 <AlexFili> no-music is a sacrifice i can make :p 22:03:17 <Turulo> i tried it, but couldnt get it working.. 22:03:33 <AlexFili> no-music ttd is better then no-ttd right? :p 22:03:41 <Bjarni> hmm 22:03:43 <Bjarni> tough one 22:03:44 <Turulo> sure 22:03:50 <AlexFili> oh yeah 22:03:53 <AlexFili> for keyboard input 22:03:58 <AlexFili> you could have a little keyboard thingy with all the keys 22:04:01 <Turulo> if i have some more spare time i could try to implement a sound driver for psp 22:04:02 <AlexFili> and you could press it :p 22:04:04 <Bjarni> from 0.1.4 to 0.3.x, the mac port had no midi support 22:04:16 <Bjarni> and it was not until 0.4.5, that it ran like it should 22:04:34 <AlexFili> http://www.gameuz.net/gameuz/bloGameuZ/wp-content/images/MrFab/2005_03_12_animalcrossingds_1_zoom.jpg 22:04:36 <Turulo> yes i saw you made native drivers for sound and video 22:04:41 <AlexFili> like the bottom screen of this 22:05:01 <AlexFili> but then, you dont really have to do much renaming do you? 22:05:38 <Turulo> not just implement a gui keyboard for text inputs 22:05:40 <Bjarni> Turulo: actually I didn't code the drivers myself, but talked to the guys, who coded them and modified them into a commitable result :) 22:05:53 <Bjarni> I'm not a music/video guru :( 22:05:55 <Turulo> its pending to be done on psp, anyone could reuse it for nds 22:06:27 <Turulo> ok i tought was done by your self 22:06:30 <MeusH> goodnight everybody 22:06:35 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Cya layer"] 22:06:35 <Turulo> byes 22:06:40 <Turulo> as far as i saw 22:06:59 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.stb.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 22:07:00 <Turulo> on psp raw and midi sound is relative easy to implement 22:07:15 <Turulo> the pain is integrating with ottd driver meets 22:07:21 <AlexFili> :s 22:07:55 <Turulo> im going to have dinner 22:07:59 <AlexFili> ok 22:08:15 <AlexFili> so, how long did it take to make the psp version anyway? 22:08:26 <Turulo> just take a look to version release... 22:08:28 <Turulo> wait 22:08:50 <AlexFili> earliest i see is 7th feb 22:09:12 <Turulo> ums... 22:09:16 <Turulo> i dont remember wait.. 22:09:45 <AlexFili> i see what you meant about the psp gui 22:09:50 <AlexFili> the icons are bunched together :S 22:09:58 <AlexFili> maybe you could put those on 2 lines for the ds? or something :p 22:09:59 <Turulo> - Thu Jan 26 2006 22:09:59 <Turulo> * First public release 22:10:09 <AlexFili> so 22:10:11 <AlexFili> not too long ago really 22:10:14 <AlexFili> 1.5 months? 22:10:21 <Turulo> yeps 22:10:30 <AlexFili> and ds firmware should be easier 22:10:40 <AlexFili> so, 0.5-1.5 months for a ds beta? 22:10:41 <Turulo> the hole shit 22:10:54 <Turulo> is geting familiar with openttd code 22:11:09 <Turulo> writing code for any console isnt really hard 22:11:44 <Turulo> well going to have dinner 22:11:47 <AlexFili> ok 22:11:51 <AlexFili> have a nice meal :p 22:11:53 <Turulo> will be back later 22:11:57 <AlexFili> thanks for everything 22:12:00 <AlexFili> im not going be here long 22:12:04 <AlexFili> 10-30 mins at most 22:12:10 <Turulo> never mind 22:12:29 <AlexFili> you're not having dinner? :o 22:12:31 <Turulo> ok, i will tell the one trying to do ds port that you can test it 22:12:39 <AlexFili> :D 22:12:40 *** |VillageIdiot| [n=jurgen@d51A43FD0.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:12:41 <AlexFili> thanks dude 22:12:42 <AlexFili> i'd love to 22:12:57 <Turulo> dont worry 22:12:59 <Turulo> see you 22:13:05 <AlexFili> cya 22:15:41 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-5360.bb.online.no] has quit ["Que?"] 22:15:57 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3DC6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:16:12 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 22:18:14 <AlexFili> hey Bjarni, MiHaMiX, you still there? 22:24:53 <AlexFili> oh well 22:24:54 <AlexFili> night all 22:24:56 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-223-141.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 22:29:54 *** Mukke [n=Mukke@x1-6-00-02-1e-f6-09-41.k607.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 22:33:17 * Vornicus wanders through the makefile looking to figure out how it does that voodoo that it does, finds this gem. 22:33:18 <Vornicus> love: 22:33:19 <Vornicus> @echo "YES! I thought you would never ask. We will have a great time. You can keep me turned on all night" 22:40:11 *** Qrrbrbirlbel [n=Qrr@p54A7FE82.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["http://mir.ist-langweilig.de/oh_man.jpg/"] 22:41:11 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944D43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [""cal 9 1752""] 22:43:01 *** Coder`TuX [n=codertux@85.204.17.98] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:57:59 *** Torrasque_ [n=chatzill@84-74-150-246.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:58:45 *** stavrosg [n=stavrosg@athedsl-64446.otenet.gr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:59:01 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-083-102-036-25.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 23:18:18 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|sleep 23:28:54 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B81FEF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["icebears... take care of them!"] 23:29:34 <Bjarni> Vornicus: yeah, it's a nice one, right 23:29:45 <Bjarni> I wrote it long ago. Now I forgot why :p 23:29:55 <Bjarni> most likely just to make fun 23:29:58 <glx> it's yours? 23:30:01 <Bjarni> yeah 23:30:24 <Bjarni> ahh, now I remember 23:30:26 <Eddi|zuHause> shows how sick-minded programmers are ;) 23:30:35 <Bjarni> somebody complained that we lacked easter eggs 23:30:48 <Bjarni> so I made a quick one 23:31:27 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause: and it have nothing to do with having a sick mind 23:31:44 <Bjarni> I only fulfilled a "feature" request 23:32:06 <glx> :) 23:32:19 <Eddi|zuHause> that wasn't meant to be insulting at all ;) 23:32:31 <Bjarni> here is the funny part: due to the nature of easter eggs, I didn't tell anybody 23:32:43 <Bjarni> so it took a few months for anybody to notice 23:34:27 * Vornicus tries to figure out how to convince make to put together a bundle. 23:34:49 <Bjarni> for OSX? 23:35:10 <Vornicus> yeah 23:35:21 <Bjarni> read os/macosx/Makefile 23:35:25 <Bjarni> bundle: 23:35:38 <Vornicus> I'm building a Mac release for my friend's game Sable, and want to get the makefile to do the bundling for me. 23:35:40 <Bjarni> it's pretty simple once you have figured it out 23:36:45 <Vornicus> awesome, thank you! 23:36:56 <Bjarni> before the bundle target, it also contains some code to make universal binaries in that file 23:37:18 <Vornicus> ooh that would be a good idea too. 23:37:43 <Bjarni> though that's a bit more complicated. YOu need to compile those info with the setup in os/macosx/Makefile.setup 23:38:17 <Bjarni> and of cause the source should be written in a way so it works for both endianess 23:40:03 <Bjarni> you can figure it out combined with the info on http://developer.apple.com 23:40:16 <Vornicus> right 23:40:27 <Bjarni> else I will be able to talk about it later 23:40:34 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:40:36 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B374A9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 23:40:45 <Vornicus> The original of his game is on win32, and I can build and run fine on my mac, so. 23:40:58 <Bjarni> sounds interesting :) 23:41:21 <Bjarni> I might take a look later, but it's really late here and I'm sleepy 23:41:48 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53589039.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["zzz"] 23:49:16 *** axadhus [n=mav@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:50:26 <Diablo-D3> <ChevyCXVII> I just downloaded WinRARInstaller.rar, I'd like to know what moron put that one together. 23:52:02 *** e1ko_ [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 23:52:02 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:52:07 *** e1ko_ is now known as e1ko 23:52:15 <Eddi|zuHause> hehe, funny ;) 23:52:19 <tank> nice one:) 23:52:51 <Prof_Frink> Diablo-D3: easy, open it with the crowbar you'll find inside. 23:53:06 <Prof_Frink> (or with 7zip) 23:53:18 <Prof_Frink> (but that would be cheating) 23:53:40 *** Cheery [i=Henri@a81-197-45-47.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Leaving"]