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00:00:17 <Sacro> desperate enough to sleep with me? seems so 00:02:03 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit ["/quit"] 00:04:32 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=9437&start=20 <- dredged up after 1 year and 10 months :| 00:05:13 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-227-112.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:07:39 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@87.102.18.82] has joined #openttd 00:08:47 <Sacro> back 00:09:21 <Brianetta> I've disabled the amazing Active Spam Killer on my flat's mail server in favour of something a little nastier (: 00:10:32 <Sacro> Brianetta: what are you using? 00:10:41 <Brianetta> Everything else/ 00:10:42 <Brianetta> . 00:10:45 <Brianetta> At once. 00:11:23 <Brianetta> I have stricks RFC compliancy testing, greylisting, pattern matching, bayesian statistical analysis and a virus scanner. 00:11:46 <Brianetta> No longer will everybody who emails me get a challenge email. 00:12:01 <Sacro> hmm 00:12:02 <Brianetta> No longer will people who never sent me spam receive such challenges. 00:12:13 <Sacro> so i cant interest you in some free pills then? 00:12:15 <Brianetta> Now, all I pay is a small delay in getting my mail 00:12:21 <Sacro> or a conservatory? 00:12:27 <Brianetta> Sacro: Sure. Email it to brian@ppcis.org if you can. 00:12:39 <Sacro> Brianetta: but then itll get blocked 00:12:44 <Brianetta> Sure will. 00:13:37 <Sacro> and hence is a waste of my time 00:13:48 <Brianetta> Rather waste yours than mine. 00:14:00 <Brianetta> I'm practically spam-proof. 00:14:14 <Sacro> practically eh? 00:14:14 <Brianetta> Look, there goes another one 00:14:18 <Sacro> i need a spam filter 00:14:22 <Brianetta> (I'm watrching the log scroll by) 00:14:32 <Brianetta> Sacro: Which OS? 00:14:40 <Sacro> im thinking about setting up a web/mail server on my mums pc, however its windows xp, and i dont want her tokonw its there 00:14:51 <Sacro> Brianetta: gentoo 00:14:57 <Brianetta> Use SpamAssassin. 00:14:58 <Sacro> orudge's server 00:15:01 <Sacro> i think it has it 00:15:08 <Brianetta> Even better, go out and buy a Mac Mini 00:15:14 <Brianetta> use it as a domestic mail server 00:15:30 <Brianetta> PostFix comes as standard, and SPamAssassin loves it 00:15:37 <Sacro> hmmmm 00:15:39 <Brianetta> and it takes practically no space 00:15:45 <Brianetta> Under £400 00:15:50 <Sacro> :| 00:15:55 <Sacro> i only have about £30 00:16:03 <Brianetta> and it isn't so ugly or loud that your mum will insist on it not being in the living room 00:16:11 <Brianetta> Save up (: 00:16:13 <orudge> Indeed, it does, Sacro 00:16:19 <Brianetta> Seriously, it can double as an openttd game server 00:16:32 <Sacro> Brianetta: yeah, i know that, but i cant 00:16:51 <Brianetta> orudge: You use postfix? 00:16:57 <orudge> No, Spamassassin 00:17:13 <Brianetta> um 00:17:17 <orudge> exim is used on the ol' server 00:17:22 <orudge> (spamassassin is what Sacro was referring to) 00:17:43 <Brianetta> I never got on with exim 00:18:00 <Sacro> cries theres too many options 00:18:00 <Brianetta> I tried, really, but we didn't hit it off, and parted amicably 00:18:19 <Brianetta> I recently dumped sendmail for postfix, who is younger and prettier 00:18:39 <Brianetta> Sacro: What's your email address? 00:18:45 <Sacro> ben@benwoodward.me.uk 00:19:14 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 00:19:44 <Brianetta> That's handled by zernebok 00:19:51 <Sacro> orudge: complaint, spamassasin has too many options 00:19:54 <Sacro> Brianetta: yep 00:20:02 <Brianetta> So, what you need to do is 00:20:06 <Brianetta> use procmail 00:20:12 <Brianetta> to sort spam from ham 00:20:12 <Sacro> ah and i have boxtrapper too 00:20:34 <Brianetta> I'm kind of assuming that zernebok has procmail 00:21:20 <Brianetta> Do you use pop, Sacro? 00:21:34 <Sacro> i have no idea 00:21:36 <Sacro> no imap 00:21:40 <Brianetta> imap is good 00:21:45 <Brianetta> you have shell access? 00:21:46 <Sacro> if i was using pop id filter it in thunderbird 00:21:49 <Sacro> yep 00:21:52 <Brianetta> good 00:22:00 <Brianetta> orudge: You have procmail? 00:22:48 <Brianetta> Sacro: You try it 00:23:27 <Brianetta> procmail -v 00:23:27 <Brianetta> See what it says 00:23:35 *** ohyeah [n=ohyeah@ns.spirit.ee] has joined #openttd 00:23:39 <Sacro> yeah 00:23:47 <Brianetta> Default rcfile? 00:23:51 <Sacro> v3.22 00:23:56 <Sacro> not sure 00:24:03 <Brianetta> Should be at the bottom of the blurb 00:24:03 <orudge> Yup, Brianetta 00:24:09 <Brianetta> orudge (: 00:24:40 <Brianetta> Sacro: Let's assume it's .procmailrc - I can't think why Owen would have changed it. 00:24:44 * orudge is off to bed, anyway 00:24:47 <Brianetta> http://spamassassin.apache.org/dist/procmailrc.example 00:24:49 <Sacro> default rcfile $HOME/.procmailrc 00:24:50 <Brianetta> night, orudge 00:25:00 * Sacro cant open gedit on his server :( 00:25:04 <Brianetta> That URL is a .procmailrc file 00:25:11 <Brianetta> Sacro: Try pico 00:25:13 <Brianetta> or nano 00:25:25 <Sacro> ive got nano, its what i normally use 00:25:34 <Brianetta> Good. 00:25:37 <Sacro> and i can paste into the terminal 00:25:49 <Brianetta> That URL contains a file that will basically work. 00:26:06 <Brianetta> It will need minro changes 00:26:16 <Brianetta> almost-certainly-spam is a folder name 00:26:20 <Brianetta> as is probably-spam 00:26:34 <Brianetta> They need to exist already 00:26:41 <Brianetta> You can rename them if you want 00:26:58 <orudge> Oh, by the way 00:27:01 <Sacro> exist where? this is all looking complex :S 00:27:08 <orudge> It may be easier, and/or better, to just use the cPanel interface 00:27:13 <orudge> as I'm not sure if cPanel will have tweaked things 00:27:18 <Sacro> orudge: yeah maybe 00:27:19 <Brianetta> Sacro: Just create the folders in your imap cclient 00:27:36 <orudge> but basically, the spamassassin options in cPanel should be able to sort ham from spam into separate folders 00:27:55 <Brianetta> Never used cPanel 00:28:06 <orudge> specifically, the "spam box" option 00:28:19 <Brianetta> (: 00:28:33 <orudge> Just make sure you clear it out now and then, or your disk space will get eaten up ;) 00:28:37 <Brianetta> I use procmail to sort mail from various mailing lists to folders 00:28:38 <orudge> (at least, if you have a significant amount of spam) 00:29:46 * Brianetta expunges 00:29:48 <Sacro> hmm 00:29:52 <Brianetta> I love imap 00:30:11 <Brianetta> orudge: I can recommend SquirrelMail if you don't have webmail but want it. 00:30:13 <Sacro> yeah, me too, allows me to check emails on multiple systems, with portable thunderbird 00:30:20 <Sacro> Brianetta: its on there 00:30:23 <orudge> It's on there 00:30:26 <Brianetta> Neat (: 00:30:28 <orudge> along with Horde, which I personally prefer 00:30:30 <Brianetta> I have it on three servers now 00:30:35 <Sacro> yeah horde is there too 00:30:39 <orudge> (but then, I have my own, custom installation of Horde anyway) 00:30:41 <Sacro> but i cant remember how to access mine :( 00:30:45 <orudge> (very handy, particularly the calendar) 00:30:49 <orudge> Sacro: www.yourdomain.com/webmail 00:30:54 <Sacro> orudge: do we have webdav? 00:30:59 <orudge> or port 2095 00:31:52 <orudge> No, no webdav I'm afraid 00:31:54 <Sacro> horde still doesnt work :( 00:32:11 <orudge> What does it say/do? 00:32:30 <Sacro> its showing emails for benwoodw, instead of ben@benwoodward.me.uk 00:32:37 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca25b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:32:38 <Sacro> soi only get the Welcome toZernebok message 00:32:54 <orudge> And you're logging in as "ben@benwoodward.me.uk"? 00:32:55 <orudge> Hmm 00:32:57 <Sacro> yeah 00:33:05 <Sacro> hmm, theres a good few viagra sales going on 00:33:17 <orudge> And that's from /webmail, not from cPanel itself? 00:33:19 <orudge> Odd. 00:33:24 <Sacro> orudge: yep 00:33:40 <orudge> I'll maybe have another look into it tomorrow if you remind me 00:33:43 <Sacro> can i use the calender and stuff from squirrelmail with an external program like evolution or outlook? 00:33:58 <Sacro> orudge: thanks :) and ive given up with Ruby on Rails, im using cakephp now 00:33:58 <orudge> I have no idea how or where squrrelmail stores the calendar 00:34:04 <orudge> but you should be able to export it to iCalendar format 00:34:12 <Sacro> hmm, i was hoping to use evolution, or the firefox one 00:34:19 <orudge> Well 00:34:25 <orudge> iCalendar is the standard format 00:34:26 <Sacro> i didnt want to export/import, i wanted it seamless, like imap 00:34:30 <orudge> Well 00:34:37 <orudge> I'm not sure, I'd guess not 00:34:40 <Sacro> not squirrelmail, horde :P 00:35:00 <Brianetta> IMP looks cool, but javascripty 00:35:10 <orudge> What wrong with it being "javascripty"? 00:35:34 <orudge> Sacro: At the moment, no, but I think it'd be possible if I was to run a whatsit server 00:35:41 <orudge> I looked into it a while ago 00:35:45 <Brianetta> orudge: Browser support... 00:35:47 <Sacro> a whatsit server? sounds fun :) 00:35:56 * orudge forgot the name 00:35:58 <Sacro> like cheesy wotsit? 00:35:59 <Sacro> webdav? 00:36:03 <orudge> No 00:36:07 <orudge> Kolab 00:36:11 <orudge> I think was what I was looking into 00:36:13 <Brianetta> Novell OpenExchange Server 00:36:24 <Brianetta> Expensive, but exceedingly cool 00:36:36 <orudge> Brianetta: Hmm, well, it seems to work with the main browsers, anyway. For the most part, it doesn't use JavaScript for the main things anyway (ie, you can browse perfectly well without it) 00:36:40 <Sacro> Kolab? /me researches 00:36:50 <orudge> http://kolab.org/ 00:37:07 <orudge> That was something I found a while ago that Horde claims to integrate with, anyway 00:37:11 <orudge> but I didn't get too far with it 00:37:36 <Sacro> orudge: yeah, wikipedia says it integrates with horde, along with Thunderbird and Outlook 00:37:44 <Sacro> ooh and Kontact 00:37:56 <orudge> It may have been Wikipedia I found it from ;) 00:38:02 <orudge> Anyway, I'm off to bed now, really 00:38:04 <orudge> Night night 00:38:08 <Sacro> night orudge 00:38:13 <orudge> (driving test tomorrow afternoon!) 00:38:23 <Brianetta> orudge: cool 00:38:41 <Sacro> orudge: good luck 00:38:42 <Brianetta> night 00:38:45 <Brianetta> have fun 00:38:52 <Brianetta> driving in the sunny weather 00:39:10 <Sacro> yeah, wish i had my motorbike 00:41:35 <Sacro> damn. im staying up waiting for a download to finsih, and i forgot to start it 00:41:57 <Brianetta> lol 00:42:01 <Brianetta> lolamongtastic 00:42:41 <Sacro> X3.iso :P 00:42:59 * Sacro wishes he had a pc that could run it :( 00:45:26 <orudge> Beware: Mae'r tegell yn rhy boeth. 00:45:28 <orudge> Night night, again. 00:45:56 <Sacro> orudge: dont threaten me in strange languages 00:52:12 <Brianetta> X3.iso? 00:52:21 * Brianetta beats Sacro to death with a slipper 00:52:36 <Sacro> a slipper eh 00:52:46 <Brianetta> You have no idea how hard I worked on that game 00:53:04 <Sacro> nah i aint got it, ill purchase it when i get some pc upgrades 00:53:17 <Sacro> i still need to complete X-Gold and X2 00:53:30 <Brianetta> Complete, lol 00:53:38 <Brianetta> BTF could be completed, I suppose 00:53:54 <Brianetta> I still play X2 00:53:59 <Sacro> thats true X didnt have an end 00:54:08 <Sacro> X2 is very nice, i havent been on it in ages through 00:54:30 <Sacro> my nice little money making factories 00:55:54 <Sacro> flying around hunting goners... 00:56:24 <Brianetta> Don't do that 00:56:31 <Sacro> :O X2 FOR LINUX :D 00:56:33 <Brianetta> There's no way to get your rating back up again 00:56:42 <Brianetta> X2 for Linux, yes 00:56:58 <Brianetta> IFF you have hardware drivers 00:57:14 <Sacro> errm...not sure about that 00:57:25 <Brianetta> I can't run it in Linux, I'm pretty certain 00:57:29 <Sacro> on desktop i have Nvidia drivers, and emu10k1 kernel drivers 00:57:37 <Brianetta> since my Radeon 9800 Pro only goes in 2D mode in Linux 00:57:49 <Sacro> this laptop i dont think will run it :( stupid sis graphics chipset 00:58:51 <Sacro> i bet itll only be online purchasing too :( 01:01:56 * Sacro wonders if it'll be GPL 01:02:49 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:03:49 <Brianetta> lol 01:03:50 <Brianetta> no 01:03:54 <Sacro> thats a shame 01:04:02 <Sacro> i wonder if theres any more news on OpenGTA 01:04:41 *** Xaroth_ [n=shaman@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined 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[n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:09:37 *** iridium`nh [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:16:08 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3E7DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:16:33 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 08:20:42 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3D8D8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:20:43 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 08:23:07 <peter1138> morning 08:27:21 <The-Moon> peter1138! 08:27:23 <The-Moon> Your here :D 08:27:32 <peter1138> i'm over, The-Moon 08:27:35 <The-Moon> ? 08:27:42 <The-Moon> your not leaving are you? 08:28:05 <The-Moon> UI need you to do something for me 08:28:12 <The-Moon> Its really, Really, REALLY important 08:28:45 <The-Moon> I want you to make a way, where you can put a Server_URL= ect... Into the Server ini file 08:29:04 <The-Moon> and then, when you contact a server and get to the main server window.... IE, start company, join company ect 08:29:13 <The-Moon> and make a button which opens the URL for that server 08:29:21 <The-Moon> You will make me extreamly happy if you do 08:29:43 <The-Moon> and im sure alot , ALOT of other peoples 08:30:01 <peter1138> how about you suggest it as a feature request at the appropriate place 08:30:13 <The-Moon> rich told me to ask you 08:30:33 <The-Moon> plus i dont feel like signing up for the openttd fourms.... 08:30:35 <peter1138> and i gave my response 08:30:41 <The-Moon> where? 08:30:48 <peter1138> 4 lines ago 08:31:07 <peter1138> the appropriate place doesn't require signing up 08:31:09 <The-Moon> So then thats a yes, you are going to code it 08:31:15 <The-Moon> Gr8! 08:31:18 <The-Moon> Tell me when it gets done 08:31:56 <The-Moon> should only take you 10 - 20 minutes not even.... 08:32:42 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:34:02 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:34:44 * Tobin wonders if The-Moon is actually trying to be annoying 08:34:52 <The-Moon> Yes 08:34:54 <The-Moon> i am acctally 08:35:02 <The-Moon> i dont feel like going and posting in some website 08:35:09 <The-Moon> and then getting shot down by a bunch of jerkoffs 08:35:12 <The-Moon> like i ussally do 08:35:17 <The-Moon> Or ill get told to code it myself 08:35:21 <The-Moon> because everyones lazy 08:35:58 <The-Moon> Yeah, i have no idea what the OpenTTD code is, but im going to take time off my life, to learn that code. Just to add in a simple a feature.... 08:36:11 <The-Moon> No offence to peter1138 08:36:27 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181098080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:36:27 <The-Moon> Or anyone else here 08:36:51 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:37:21 <The-Moon> Hey rich, we was just talking about you 08:37:31 *** iridium`nh [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:37:38 <RichK67_wrk> uhoh 08:37:38 <The-Moon> No im jk, your not that popular ;o) 08:37:58 <The-Moon> jk.... 08:38:06 <The-Moon> playin wit ya 08:38:25 <The-Moon> Just not in the gay way :o| 08:38:37 <The-Moon> Wanted to make that clear 08:39:17 <RichK67_wrk> ooookay 08:39:31 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:39:46 <The-Moon> ..... 08:39:46 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 08:40:49 <The-Moon> peter1138 said he wouldnt code it 08:40:54 <The-Moon> and told me to goto some forums 08:41:00 <The-Moon> but failed to give me a url 08:41:43 <peter1138> you didn't ask for it 08:41:48 <peter1138> http://bugs.openttd.org/newtask/proj1 08:42:09 <The-Moon> oh 08:42:13 <The-Moon> is there a forum some wheres? 08:42:26 * [Shaman] points at topic 08:44:18 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:44:52 <The-Moon> who do i asign this too? Or no one? 08:46:27 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca25b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:46:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:47:56 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 08:48:33 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181064054.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:52:14 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:02 <peter1138> don't assign it 08:57:18 <The-Moon> i didnt 09:00:19 *** wH1spEr [i=whispu@164-199.balibg.com] has joined #openttd 09:00:29 *** wH1spEr [i=whispu@164-199.balibg.com] has left #openttd [] 09:01:10 * Tobin sighs 09:01:31 <peter1138> Tobin: i know 09:01:37 <Tobin> Feature requests should not be given critical severity or immediate priority. 09:03:18 <Bjarni> hehe 09:03:26 <peter1138> The-Moon: do you actually believe it's highly important and should be in a bugfix release? or are you playing silly buggers? 09:03:50 <peter1138> well, i've changed the severity/priority and due values now ;p 09:04:07 <Tobin> An amusing example of request stupidity: http://trac.adiumx.com/ticket/6 09:04:22 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:04:45 <The-Moon> ? 09:04:46 <The-Moon> Yes 09:04:52 <peter1138> Tobin: hehe 09:04:55 <The-Moon> Its critical that it be implemented ASAP 09:05:09 <The-Moon> i cant run my server until it gets done 09:05:11 <The-Moon> this blows 09:05:18 <The-Moon> i wanna play, but no one can join 09:05:30 <The-Moon> its not a bug fix 09:05:34 <The-Moon> i posted as a new feature 09:05:43 <Tobin> That doesn't make it critical. 09:05:55 <The-Moon> Yeah it dose 09:06:01 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 09:06:04 <The-Moon> me not being able to run a server, means theres a serious problem 09:06:37 <The-Moon> ummm 09:06:46 <The-Moon> where did my feature request go? 09:06:48 <Tobin> The-Moon: Look at the way other people handle it and do that. 09:06:54 <The-Moon> nm 09:07:02 <peter1138> it's there 09:07:03 <The-Moon> Im not putting a URL as the server name 09:07:16 <The-Moon> I want it to be called, The-Moons Server 09:07:30 <The-Moon> Not http://cdfbr.zidev.com/html/OpenTTD.html 09:07:37 <Tobin> Then put up. 09:07:38 <The-Moon> Okay? 09:07:42 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has joined #openttd 09:07:49 <Tobin> (... or shut up) 09:07:55 <Bjarni> about that OTTD URL server thing... write something to handle it yourself since I'm not going to do it :P 09:08:06 <The-Moon> .... 09:08:22 <The-Moon> As i said, jerk offs shooting my ideas down.... 09:08:31 * The-Moon leaves.... 09:08:34 <Tobin> It's not a terrible idea but you're being a dick about it. 09:08:43 <peter1138> exactly 09:08:50 <Bjarni> bascially it's due to 1: I don't know how to do it, 2: I don't have time to research how to do it 09:09:04 <Tobin> A general notes section would be better than a URL field, IMHO. 09:09:23 <Bjarni> nobody said that we can't have both 09:09:30 <Tobin> True. 09:09:45 <peter1138> it's actually easy enough to do, but it will not be in 0.4.8, because 0.4.8 is a bug fix release 09:09:58 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 09:10:31 <Bjarni> I think he left for real 09:10:50 <Tobin> Heh, I've got him on ignore for now anyway. 09:12:18 <Bjarni> btw something funny happened at the office yesterday. One guy had to print a document in 2 copies (for two different people) and the computer/printer/printserver/whatever decided to save some paper, so it printed the first copy and then the other copy on the backside of the first one 09:12:25 <Bjarni> now that's useful :P 09:12:38 <peter1138> hehe 09:12:42 <Tobin> Teehee. 09:13:58 <Bjarni> I don't know what caused this issue, so I will blame windows 09:14:05 <Bjarni> it's usually right to do that anyway 09:15:34 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 09:15:46 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit [Client Quit] 09:16:22 <Bjarni> that was a quick visit o_O 09:17:42 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a81-197-103-246.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:20:38 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:26:26 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:26:56 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:27:37 <Tron> + /* approximate number of tiles by dividing by DIAG_FACTOR */ 09:27:37 <Tron> + tfdd->best_length = length / 3; 09:27:43 <Tron> i really don't understand people 09:27:50 <Tron> there's a enum 09:27:56 <Tron> they mention the enum in the comment 09:28:03 <Tron> and use a magic number in the code 09:28:12 <Tron> i've seen this many many times 09:28:20 <Tron> i really don't understand why people do this 09:28:44 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 09:30:41 <peter1138> where's that? 09:31:22 <Tron> not in the code, it's in bugs. 09:33:09 <Tron> any AmigaOS guy/gal here? 09:35:52 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:36:05 <peter1138> ah 09:39:43 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:45 *** valhalla`hiding is now known as valhallasw 09:55:06 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:56:13 <Ihmemies> how to make oil drop and goods pickup from oil ref? does the ref need to be next to ocean? 09:57:17 <RichK67_wrk> no, but only certain squares of the oil refinery accept oil - so you have to make sure your station footprint includes the accepting square 09:59:39 <Tobin> Don't oil refineries still need to be placed near the edge of the map though? 10:00:54 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:01:18 <Ihmemies> can be positioned only near edges of map.. 10:01:20 <Ihmemies> damn 10:01:32 <Ihmemies> how i'm sposed to make goods pickup and oil drop then? 10:01:58 <Ihmemies> make one humungous 24-line station instead of 2x12? 10:02:05 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:02:09 <hylje> :o? 10:03:39 <Ihmemies> http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/roina/stuff_drop_pickup.png 10:03:47 <Ihmemies> don't i need something like that for oil ref too.. ? :o 10:03:52 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:04:13 <peter1138> no 10:04:18 <peter1138> i tend to make do with 2 or 3 platforms... 10:04:29 <Ihmemies> :S 10:04:39 <Ihmemies> so i just make one big station then 10:05:07 <peter1138> why can't you build either side of it? 10:06:05 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Success] 10:06:08 <Ihmemies> ocean? 10:06:21 <peter1138> terraform? 10:06:23 <Tobin> Raise the land out of the sea. :) 10:06:58 <Tobin> If/when TGP gets into trunk it'd be nice to be able to place rigs near inland seas. 10:07:16 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:09:46 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 10:09:52 <Ihmemies> duh, http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/roina/no_room_for_niceties.png 10:09:54 <Ihmemies> see, ? :D 10:10:01 <Ihmemies> gotta make it 1-sided 10:10:28 <peter1138> that's a lot of very short platforms... 10:10:31 <peter1138> however 10:10:40 <peter1138> you could build in the direction 10:10:51 <peter1138> although the lighthouse is a problem, he 10:10:52 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 10:11:03 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has joined #openttd 10:11:23 <Tobin> Bloody stupid FedEx. I'm going to the USA on Sunday and a package I ordered from the USA will get here Monday. :/ 10:11:45 <Ihmemies> yeah 10:11:49 <Ihmemies> we use 3-title platforms. 10:12:01 <Tobin> Is this a coop thing? 10:12:34 <Ihmemies> yes 10:13:47 <Tobin> Maybe one of the co-op people could help? I'm sure they've dealt with this kind of thing before. 10:14:02 <peter1138> it seems obvious what to do, for me 10:14:04 <Tobin> These giant construction projects bother me. :P 10:14:13 <peter1138> Ihmemies: do you only use templates or something? 10:14:27 <peter1138> are you unable to actually think about what you need to put down? :P 10:14:34 <Ihmemies> yes. 10:14:34 <peter1138> Tobin: yeah 10:14:38 <Ihmemies> i just copypaste! 10:14:43 <peter1138> o_O 10:14:47 <Tobin> Hehe. 10:14:49 <peter1138> what's the point? :P 10:15:00 <Tobin> Wait, I think we're close to solving the problem then. 10:15:11 <Tobin> And the solution is..... 10:15:12 <peter1138> if i really wanted 3 long platforms (urgh!) 10:15:18 <Tobin> *drumroll* 10:15:23 <peter1138> an airport ;) 10:15:27 <Tobin> ... dont just copy and paste. ;-) 10:15:54 <Ihmemies> why not :( 10:16:02 <peter1138> Ihmemies: first, stations don't have to touch the industry. you knew that, right? 10:16:10 <Ihmemies> yeah, but.. 10:16:21 <Tobin> I'm just kidding, if copy and paste is fun go right ahead. 10:16:41 <peter1138> build two long stations either side of the refinery 10:16:55 <peter1138> away from the ocean 10:17:27 <peter1138> then at the ends farthest away, build your strange 3 long multiple platform areas as part of the two existing station 10:17:30 <peter1138> +s 10:17:37 <peter1138> then connect the rail up as necessary 10:17:49 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B821D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd ["icebears... take care of them!"] 10:18:00 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 10:18:01 <peter1138> you'll have to put curves in the distribution junctions though 10:18:37 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B821D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:18:43 <Ihmemies> why 3 long stations are strange? ;) 10:18:54 <Ihmemies> and it's not my decision! it's what i got when i joined the game 10:18:56 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B821D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:19:08 <peter1138> because you need a lot of trains which don't carry much freight 10:19:10 <peter1138> == less profit 10:19:51 <peter1138> otoh, loading times and ratings are probably quite good 10:20:48 <Ihmemies> maybe that was the idea behind it :P 10:22:34 <peter1138> it's boring and tedious though 10:23:16 <peter1138> you could transport the oil by ship :) 10:23:31 <peter1138> only one dock needed to service it 10:26:11 <Ihmemies> i don't think they like other means of transport than trains ;) 10:28:44 <Trenskow> theres a problem with the sign up script on the flyspray 10:29:40 <Trenskow> Notice: Undefined variable: register_text in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607 10:29:41 <Trenskow> Notice: Undefined index: project_title in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607 10:29:41 <Trenskow> Notice: Undefined index: flyspray_userid in /www/openttd.org/bugs/includes/notify.inc.php on line 264 10:30:23 <Trenskow> but i got the notice email 10:30:34 <Trenskow> sorry for spamming :S 10:31:11 <Ihmemies> this copypasting business is also safer than random building! 10:32:55 <Ihmemies> i saw one game of random building, and it was like fixing other's work all the time because previous stations sucked ... were slow, caused jams etc :| 10:33:27 <Ihmemies> and of course i've tried to build differently, but it simply results that others rebuild it like that :F 10:33:28 <Ihmemies> so.. 10:36:53 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:56:54 *** shintah [i=bebble@bebble.olf.sgsnet.se] has quit [] 10:59:53 <Bjarni> <Tron> any AmigaOS guy/gal here? <-- a long time ago we added some AmigaOS support from a patch from sourceforge. The reason why we added it was that it created issues with MorphOS and we fixed those. We never really got AmigaOS to work as the patchwriter left 11:00:04 <Bjarni> so we never really got true AmigaOS support 11:00:36 <Tron> hmhm 11:00:39 <Bjarni> we figured that somebody would show up to complete the rest, but maybe it just works so nobody bothers 11:00:47 <Tron> i doubt it does 11:01:04 <Tron> at least ending a multiplayer session should cause nasty things to happen 11:01:06 <Bjarni> somehow I don't think it works either 11:01:20 <Tron> if (TimerBase) { CloseDevice((struct IORequest *) TimerRequest); } 11:01:23 <Tron> this line smells 11:01:36 <Tron> check for Base -> close Request 11:02:31 <Bjarni> well, the main reason for adding it was to avoid a new patchwriter to break MorphOS and getting that patch committed by a developer, who didn't know that those OSes got some common flags defined 11:03:00 <Bjarni> to tell the truth, I don't really care for that OS unless somebody shows up and makes some serious work to it 11:03:52 <Trenskow> Bjarni, are you experienced in gui ? 11:04:20 <Trenskow> ottd gui that is 11:04:22 <Bjarni> actually I don't think we ever committed the changes to the Makefile (AMIGAOS flag and so on) because it was written really poorly 11:04:23 <Trenskow> :) 11:04:36 <Bjarni> Trenskow: well, I did make the autoreplace GUI 11:04:47 <Trenskow> ok... then maybe you can help :) 11:05:01 <Bjarni> if I can remember it... I did it more than a year ago 11:05:16 <Trenskow> if you got the WDF_UNCLICK_BUTTONS flag on a window 11:05:30 <Trenskow> is there someway to make a button not auto unclick ? 11:05:46 <Bjarni> I have no idea :P 11:05:46 <Trenskow> there is one button, that i would like to control the click_state of 11:05:53 <Trenskow> damn 11:05:54 <Trenskow> :S 11:06:15 <Bjarni> WDF_UNCLICK_BUTTONS <-- I never used that flag and I can't remember reading about it 11:07:00 <Trenskow> Bjarni, it is being used on the WC_NETWORK_WINDOW 11:33:29 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca25b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:33:33 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D384.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:35:44 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallasw`gesla 11:37:33 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54947C6E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["brb"] 11:38:30 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54944A09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:43:14 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 11:47:14 *** valhallasw`gesla is now known as valhalla`passed 11:47:22 <valhalla`passed> now for the english people ;) 11:47:33 *** angerman_ [n=angerman@e181098080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 11:54:20 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-157-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:55:12 <Sacro> afternoon all 11:55:28 <valhalla`passed> 'lo Sacro 11:55:47 <Sacro> lo valhalla`passed, what have you passed? 11:58:18 <valhalla`passed> my final exams :P 12:04:44 <Ihmemies> copy paste copy paste! 12:05:05 <hylje> copy paste exams 12:05:54 <valhalla`passed> :/ 12:05:56 <valhalla`passed> eindexamen.nl 12:05:58 <valhalla`passed> have fun 12:09:04 <The-Moon> RichK67_wrk you there 12:12:53 <Sacro> hmmm 12:16:49 <RichK67_wrk> back 12:17:01 <Sacro> front 12:17:06 <RichK67_wrk> mmm... beef goulash :) 12:25:12 <Xaroth_> another dutchie :o 12:25:30 <Sacro> RichK67_wrk: isnt dutch is he? 12:25:48 <Sacro> or are we talking about "dutchies" 12:25:50 <RichK67_wrk> thats right.... i isnt dutch ;) 12:26:09 <Xaroth_> no,valhal is :P 12:26:14 <Xaroth_> dutch exams :P 12:27:00 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:27:13 <blathijs> valhalla`passed: gefeliciteerd :-) 12:29:07 <RichK67_wrk> The-Moon: ping 12:31:41 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-164-217.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["And he disappears, like a fox, in the night."] 12:34:23 <valhalla`passed> thx blathijs :) 12:35:59 <Xaroth_> which exam? vmbo/havo/vwo? 12:36:05 <Xaroth_> or something more.. funky 12:36:52 <valhalla`passed> gymnasium ^_^ 12:37:33 <Xaroth_> nice, grats 12:37:34 <TrueLight> gefeliciflapstaart valhalla`passed ;) 12:39:54 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:42:38 <Xaroth_> you guys heared of button's F1 accident? 12:42:44 <Xaroth_> http://urbanwolf.cowbox.net/button_injury.jpg 12:42:50 *** Xaroth_ is now known as Xaroth 12:43:33 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:43:39 <Hagbard_Ub> fint ut 12:43:48 <RichK67_wrk> at least there was an escape ;) 12:44:05 <Xaroth> yar 12:44:08 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:44:09 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 12:44:40 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:44:44 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77A50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:45:41 <hylje> Xaroth: thats so lame 12:45:42 <hylje> :D 12:45:47 <Xaroth> :P 12:45:49 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 12:45:54 *** wH1spEr [i=whispu@164-199.balibg.com] has joined #openttd 12:46:12 <wH1spEr> hi all 12:46:19 * valhalla`passed doet een dansje met TrueLight :) 12:46:38 * Xaroth puts up YMCA for valhalla`passed to dance on 12:47:03 <valhalla`passed> :| 12:47:07 <Xaroth> lol 12:47:12 <hylje> thats really enthusiastic 12:47:13 <hylje> :o 12:47:20 <Xaroth> heh 12:47:59 <blathijs> Xaroth: what exactly is funny about that? Are people supposed to read "Formula 1" there? 12:48:19 * Xaroth sighs. 12:48:23 <Xaroth> party pooper :p 12:48:31 <Xaroth> a lot of people -do- think that :P 12:52:31 <blathijs> Hmm, apparently my nerdness is too much :-) 12:52:55 <Xaroth> yeh 12:57:42 <vondel> formula 1 fans are also a kind of nerd 12:57:49 <vondel> just a different kind 12:57:58 <vondel> apply patch of that diff to fix ;) 13:00:25 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-157-83.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 13:01:32 <peter1138> that keyboard is disgusting 13:01:45 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:02:27 <The-Moon> Hey guys, how do i turn on teh cheat, which lets me delet industrys? 13:02:33 <The-Moon> im in single player mode :) 13:03:28 <Belugas> ctrl+alt+c (on windows) 13:04:21 <The-Moon> Thanks :D 13:13:04 <Xaroth> control alt win c 13:13:08 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B36734.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:19 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 13:32:27 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-11071.0x535a09ce.odnxx7.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:32:27 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:37:52 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77A50.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:38:26 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-11071.0x535a09ce.odnxx7.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:41:38 *** hylje is now known as Seal 13:41:49 *** Seal is now known as hylje 13:42:09 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 13:42:38 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 13:48:32 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:53:40 <TrueLight> For your information, I emailed the owner of CIA to ask what is going on 13:54:44 <peter1138> oh? 13:54:58 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 13:55:05 <hylje> "well we dont know WTF its doing, maybe it acquired self-awareness" 13:55:20 <TrueLight> I can also enable jmp_ghli to spit out CIA like stuff in this channel 13:55:23 <TrueLight> but okay, that is cheap 13:55:48 <hylje> fake commits? 13:55:53 <TrueLight> ? 13:58:03 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 13:58:11 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 13:58:13 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 13:58:28 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 13:59:44 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 13:59:47 <Darkvater> oi 13:59:52 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 13:59:52 <TrueLight> hi Darkvater 14:00:00 <wH1spEr> buzz 14:00:04 <wH1spEr> opus, sry, not here 14:00:13 <hylje> *BZZT* 14:00:33 <Darkvater> ey 14:00:43 <Darkvater> anyone watching cr vs eq? 14:01:37 <peter1138> Cubic Rhubarb Visual Studio Elephant Queues 14:02:10 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 14:02:30 <Darkvater> woow, nice 14:02:34 <Darkvater> so what's the score? :) 14:02:54 <RichK67_wrk> ecu 1 - cos 0 14:03:18 <Darkvater> hmm.. 14:03:19 <glx> RichK67_wrk: you're watching tv at work? 14:03:24 * Darkvater goes home to catch the second half 14:03:43 <RichK67_wrk> nope - bbc website has text update 14:03:52 <RichK67_wrk> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/4852984.stm 14:04:08 <Darkvater> we got a mail at work (Shell) about soccer. In Dutch the mail said you can watch games occasionally, the English translation said you are prohibited of watching any football during work-hours 14:04:23 <Darkvater> the question is: did I read the Dutch or the English mail? 14:04:43 <RichK67_wrk> ah - so it doesnt prohibit listening ;) 14:05:41 <Darkvater> :) 14:06:33 * peter1138 prohibits listening 14:06:41 <peter1138> get on with some ottd work instead ;p 14:06:46 <Darkvater> :O 14:07:06 <Darkvater> well well well. The little timid boy has grown up to be such a tyrant 14:07:09 <Darkvater> who would've thought 14:07:11 <Darkvater> <off 14:07:40 <RichK67_wrk> DV: about NewAirports - does it need to have a savegame bump for trunk? (definitely when part of release) and if so, how about commiting this weekend 14:07:45 <RichK67_wrk> or earlier 14:08:33 <peter1138> little timid boy... 14:09:03 *** _Red is now known as Red 14:09:09 *** Osai^2_ is now known as Osai 14:11:22 <hylje> ZOMGZOMGZOMG 14:11:33 <hylje> there's AN ERROR in the FINNISH TRANSLATION 14:12:16 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:39 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 14:13:07 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Client Quit] 14:13:55 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-202.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:13:56 <peter1138> well fix it? 14:14:22 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 14:15:30 <Sacro> hmm, think this router is working fine... 14:16:31 <Sacro> got sent here with a new router, to install and commision it, get here, and someones beaten me to it! stupid forgetful landlord 14:17:55 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-202.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Client Quit] 14:20:08 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD577D002.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:22:24 *** Scram [n=chris@pD9EEB43E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:25:13 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-63-78.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:25:25 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD577D002.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:29:38 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:30:32 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD577D002.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:33:06 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 14:36:30 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:37:23 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:39:15 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:41:21 *** wH1spEr [i=whispu@164-199.balibg.com] has left #openttd [] 14:44:18 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-202.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:44:55 <Sacro> ho hum 14:49:27 <Brianetta> hum ho 14:50:02 <Brianetta> The entire organisation's internet is currently being routed through a domestic ADSL router that we normally use to provide free internet to the teenagers 14:50:44 <hylje> how large is this organisation 14:52:16 <Sacro> its Brianetta and a can of beer 14:53:04 <hylje> oh 14:53:05 <hylje> k 14:53:36 <RichK67_wrk> quick question: i know you can place track above a tunnel, and (straight) track beneath a bridge; but can you have a layer of tunnel/rail/bridge?? 14:54:34 <hylje> try 14:54:39 <Sacro> RichK67_wrk: ill try 14:54:44 <RichK67_wrk> im at work - cant 14:56:30 <Sacro> RichK67_wrk: yes, but the bridge and the straight track have to be perpendicular 14:56:54 <Belugas> RichK67_wrk : they don't let you play at work??? Change company :) 14:57:02 <Tron> RichK67_wrk: tunnels don't exists 14:57:11 <Tron> s/s$// 14:57:16 <Brianetta> This orgnisation is 500 people 14:57:21 <Sacro> there is no tunnel 14:57:54 <Tron> so you can have any number of tunnels (well, 15, then you run out of height levels) below any kind of tile 14:58:14 <Sacro> nice 14:58:27 <Sacro> gtg 14:58:40 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-233-202.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["using sirc version 2.211+KSIRC/1.3.12"] 14:59:19 <RichK67_wrk> cool 15:00:43 <RichK67_wrk> Tron: have you taken a look at the latest TGP in the branch??? looking great, and now 2048x2048 in ~8secs (my routine uses two map generations; KUDr's only one, hence his being quicker) 15:00:56 <hylje> why tw 15:00:57 <hylje> o 15:01:05 <Tron> no, i haven't 15:01:16 <RichK67_wrk> checkout the branch :) 15:03:02 <RichK67_wrk> why two? i use the second as a "reinforcing" layer to help bias mountain and hilly to higher levels, without losing the sea levels... just doing a transform on the single layer raises the shorelines too much; gives it more variety of terrain 15:03:10 <Tron> 8 secs for the map? not counting placement of stuff (industries, towns, etc.)? 15:03:18 <RichK67_wrk> yeah 15:03:33 <RichK67_wrk> towns & industries still old, still > 1 minute :( 15:03:41 <Tron> how many octaves do you use? 15:04:29 <RichK67_wrk> still 6, but the lower ones 5+ are a bit irrelevant - you can see how little they contribute if you look at the _perlin_p_value_powers table 15:05:04 <RichK67_wrk> biggest speed gain was dumping the pow() function... instant 300% speed increase :) 15:08:45 <Tron> hm, pretty good. my cheap perlin hack does 6 octaves in about 4 seconds (on an Athlon XP 2000+), but it doesn't nearly have the bells and whistles 15:09:30 <RichK67_wrk> if i disable the second layer, mine drops to about 4.5-5 secs, but i think the second layer really improves it 15:10:02 <Tron> how many points does the first octave have? 15:10:16 <Brianetta> 15 minutes to re-draw an X window 15:10:32 <Tron> period length is a fixed number of tiles or scales with the map size? 15:10:39 <Brianetta> I have a good mind to re-route the web proxy to outer space 15:10:50 <Brianetta> That'll spare me some bandwidth 15:11:06 <Brianetta> 512kbps averages at 1kbps per member of staff 15:11:22 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 15:11:50 <RichK67_wrk> tron: not sure; i think the period is effectively fixed - it certainly doesnt scale to the map 15:11:58 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:13:40 <RichK67_wrk> as for the octaves; i dont think the octaves have points; its one point per X&Y AFAIK. its only when you view it across a varying X (or Y) that it gains the appearance of oscillation 15:14:56 <RichK67_wrk> brianetta: you may have to block the BBC website by about 16:45 - they are webcasting the match! 15:15:09 <Brianetta> RichK67_wrk: Good idea 15:15:43 <RichK67_wrk> or just be really selective and block the video stream (and url) 15:16:32 <Brianetta> Just checking the state of the proxy server 15:16:51 * Brianetta installs iptraf 15:19:53 <Brianetta> Nobody's using it 15:20:08 <RichK67_wrk> yet ;) 15:20:40 <Brianetta> When they do, I don' tthink I can be arsed reconfiguring the squid server with an ACL to deny access to the BBC, which I'll only have to undo 15:20:53 <Brianetta> I'll just add a prohibited route 15:27:55 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-3628.lns5-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:28:00 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD577D002.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:29:52 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:29:57 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:30:08 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:30:22 *** Prof_Frink 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tnx :) 19:01:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v lws1984] by ChanServ 19:01:06 <TrueLight> There you go :) 19:01:19 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:01:40 * lws1984 thanks you all 19:01:44 <lws1984> woo, that's two channels 19:07:11 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 19:16:56 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@81.183.160.238] has joined #openttd 19:23:04 <TrueLight> who in here knows a thing or two about shm? 19:24:24 <Belugas> don't even know what it stands for :( 19:24:52 <TrueLight> Shared Memory shit :) 19:25:29 <Belugas> hem... 19:25:31 <Belugas> rings a bell 19:25:45 <Belugas> pipe... 19:25:52 <Belugas> pool 19:25:52 <gradator> /proc/sys/kernel/shm* :) 19:25:53 <TrueLight> I only wonder how it works 19:25:59 <TrueLight> and how long a sessions stays active 19:26:04 <TrueLight> gradator: now that rings a bell here... 19:42:09 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 19:43:26 <Eddi|zuHause> narf... 5.37KB/s ... this is getting rediculous 19:45:05 <eleusis> shm 'sessions'? 19:46:03 <eleusis> TrueLight: ^ 19:46:18 <TrueLight> eleusis: yeah, or how ever you want to call them 19:46:52 <TrueLight> eleusis: I assumed something needs to stayed hooked to the memory, else it would be free'd, but that doesn't seem to be the case... just I can't find details about the process 19:46:56 <eleusis> maybe until all processes detach from it? :P 19:47:04 <eleusis> oh 19:47:05 <TrueLight> yeah, all processes are detached from it 19:47:51 <eleusis> yeah that's right.. there's a util to remove unused segments, i think.. 19:48:17 <TrueLight> I keep a server running, and when it shuts down, it marks the segment to be removed 19:48:22 <TrueLight> that will work just fine I guess 19:49:15 <eleusis> what are you doing? :) 19:50:01 <TrueLight> eleusis: I am writing a webbased application, but as you might know it is pretty annoying that a server-session is closed when the client is done with his request, and with that you have the reinitialize the data every time... 19:50:06 <TrueLight> shm will solve that problem for me just fine :) 19:50:31 <TrueLight> will boost the performance with a factor 10 to 20 19:51:11 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50a41660.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:51:14 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:51:42 <eleusis> a webapp that uses shm? o_O 19:51:59 <TrueLight> eleusis: welcome to Web 2.0 19:52:04 <eleusis> rofl 19:52:14 <TrueLight> I am pretty serious :) 19:52:58 <eleusis> ok :D 19:56:32 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 19:56:50 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:57:35 <eleusis> TrueLight: what happens if there are too many clients? 19:57:42 <hylje> then the server dies 19:57:45 <TrueLight> eleusis: define too many :p 19:57:55 <TrueLight> of course you can trottle that in all kinds of ways 19:58:03 <TrueLight> but a single client uses something like 10kb of memory 19:58:09 <TrueLight> so I guess you really need A LOT of clients 19:58:09 <eleusis> iirc, there's a limit on the number of shm segments you can have, right? 19:58:21 <TrueLight> there is 19:58:27 <TrueLight> it goes per pagesize 19:58:32 <eleusis> mhm 19:58:33 <TrueLight> and I assume there is at least 10MB of data 19:58:38 <TrueLight> that makes 1000 clients 19:58:43 <TrueLight> I guess that won't ever happen :p 19:58:47 <eleusis> ok :) 19:58:47 <TrueLight> if it does, it needs an other system :) 19:59:07 <eleusis> what are you writing this webapp in? C? 19:59:15 <TrueLight> eleusis: then we make tcp/ip connection between daemon and client ;) 19:59:16 <TrueLight> Mostly C 19:59:18 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i need a router software that can give bandwidth priorities (to users, computers, or single connections) 19:59:21 <eleusis> mhm 19:59:22 <TrueLight> partly in any script GPMI supports :p 19:59:34 <Eddi|zuHause> nobody here happens to know such a thing? 19:59:48 <eleusis> Eddi|zuHause: nope.. 19:59:48 <Eddi|zuHause> (preferably for windows ;)) 19:59:49 <anboni> Eddi|zuHause, should it run on dedicated hardware? (p2 or better)? 20:00:28 <eleusis> he said windows, maybe he wants a desktop app :P 20:00:55 <anboni> never heard of anything that advanced for windows :) 20:00:58 <Eddi|zuHause> my current router software is wingate 4.something and runs on some 600MHz machine that is not used for much else 20:01:01 <eleusis> :D 20:01:09 <TrueLight> Eddi|zuHause: bad choice :p 20:01:16 <TrueLight> take FreeSCO, runs even on a 486 :p 20:01:18 <eleusis> on linux, you could try tweaking the routing queues.. 20:01:19 <Eddi|zuHause> well... it works ;) 20:01:28 <anboni> if you can afford to have it do nothing else instead of 'not much else'... Astaro is for you :) 20:02:01 <eleusis> TrueLight: what is GPMI? 20:02:04 <Eddi|zuHause> well... "not much else" is basically my mother playing freecell or my brother browsing 20:02:12 <anboni> bummer 20:02:13 <TrueLight> eleusis: a piece of software Igor2Code and I designed in the last 2 years 20:02:20 <TrueLight> it is General Module and Package Interface 20:02:21 <eleusis> :o 20:02:32 <TrueLight> it handles packages and modules in a good way (plugin system, small (25k)) 20:02:34 <eleusis> libgpmi on sf.net? 20:02:41 <eleusis> ah 20:02:47 <TrueLight> and it allows scripts to work as modules (ruby, tcl, lua, perl, .... the list is getting long) 20:02:49 <TrueLight> libgpmi on sf.net yes 20:03:07 <TrueLight> so very useful for webapps 20:03:13 <TrueLight> most part is done in C, to make it fast and stable 20:03:18 <TrueLight> the non-default stuff is done in scripts 20:03:21 <eleusis> interesting.. so you can even combine modules written in different scripts/languages? 20:03:24 <TrueLight> making it compatbiel and useful :) 20:03:29 <TrueLight> in theory, yes 20:03:31 <eleusis> nic 20:03:31 <eleusis> e 20:03:36 <TrueLight> sadly some scripts give problems 20:03:42 <eleusis> heh 20:03:49 <TrueLight> (some have REALLY bad embed parts.. take PHP, just impossible) 20:03:58 <TrueLight> Perl leaks 1M per session :s 20:04:03 <eleusis> :D 20:04:03 <hylje> :X 20:04:06 <glx> TrueLight: impossible with gcc :) 20:05:02 <glx> and perl doesn't work for win32 version 20:05:27 <TrueLight> but okay, eleusis, I like the software very much, so I use it for everything :) I never have to make the same code twice again, I just make it a package once, and canuse it for any application I want/like 20:05:44 <eleusis> serious reuse 20:05:49 <hylje> sts 20:05:55 <TrueLight> just windows support is a bit less 20:06:02 <TrueLight> and Bjarni once worked on OSX, but that stopped too :p 20:06:32 <glx> he the base packages work on windows :) 20:06:33 <Bjarni> o_O 20:06:45 <TrueLight> glx: you are doing your best, I know :) 20:06:53 <Bjarni> <TrueLight> and Bjarni once worked on OSX, but that stopped too :p <--- wtf are you talking about? 20:06:59 <TrueLight> Bjarni: GPMI, what else 20:07:03 <Bjarni> ahh 20:07:11 <Bjarni> I never stopped 20:07:16 <Bjarni> I'm taking a break :P 20:07:19 <TrueLight> you just never continued :p 20:07:20 <Zavior> Just slowed down considerably? 20:07:22 <Zavior> :P 20:07:41 <eleusis> ran out of modules to code 20:08:07 <eleusis> openttd has been taking away all my coding time lately 20:08:16 <TrueLight> hehe 20:08:18 <TrueLight> been there, done that 20:08:23 <eleusis> :D 20:08:35 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2E589.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:45 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 20:12:06 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:13:33 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181098080.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20:20:34 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2D60A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:20:34 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 20:20:55 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:31:01 *** Pink_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:31:16 *** White_Rabbit [i=whiterab@cpc4-oxfd8-0-0-cust713.oxfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:41:29 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3E7DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 20:47:28 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:48:29 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@81.183.160.238] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:51:33 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:52:27 <Belugas_Gone> good night 20:53:05 <TrueLight> night Belugas_Gone 20:54:37 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176117030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:54:54 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 20:54:59 <TL|Away> yeah, me out too, night all 20:55:36 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:59:25 *** DaleStan [n=Dale@pool-71-120-98-121.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:00:06 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 21:03:44 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:04:30 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@83.100.229.245] has joined #openttd 21:17:24 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 21:21:02 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c211-28-197-129.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 21:25:36 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 21:29:18 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D384.versanet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 21:34:39 <hylje> how does your svn update the website, i assume it got a post-commit hook for that? 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23:04:21 *** kieron_lowe [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:04:30 *** [KrusheR] [n=rather@82.Red-81-34-49.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["__0____ ESPIÑA __0____ UNA, GRANDE Y DULCE"] 23:04:44 <Sacro> i never saw owt 23:06:54 * Sacro plays around in the Titanic 23:08:16 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B8229A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:08:17 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8229A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:10:17 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 23:12:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B77A50.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:16:53 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176117030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 23:16:57 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:22:00 <Born_Acorn> lws1984 has upset various people. 23:22:14 <Born_Acorn> I vote we burn him at the stake CIA-14 set up. 23:22:23 <lws1984> heh? 23:22:30 <lws1984> who have I upset? 23:23:28 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:24:01 <Born_Acorn> I think the dood up there. 23:24:09 <lws1984> fine 23:24:13 * lws1984 dashes off 23:24:50 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: ping flood him? 23:24:59 <lws1984> uhoh 23:25:54 <Sacro> hmm, my laptop appears to be 192.168.1.4 and 192.168.1.6 at the same time 23:26:17 <Born_Acorn> Lets hax Sacro! 23:26:27 <Born_Acorn> he has given us his two IP adresses! 23:26:44 <lws1984> aye 23:26:54 * lws1984 uses his 1337 POWAHS 23:26:56 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: oh and theres also 127.0.0.1 23:27:03 <tank_> Sacro: sorry, but i think he's schizophrenic:) 23:27:14 <Sacro> tank_: who? 23:27:21 <tank_> your laptop 23:27:27 <Sacro> tank_: yeah... 23:27:37 <Sacro> its connected on wifi and ethernet to the router... 23:27:52 <tank_> ah 23:28:08 * Sacro hugs his new shiny router 23:28:58 * Born_Acorn routes it 23:29:06 <Born_Acorn> through a wall 23:29:12 <Born_Acorn> 's ice cream 23:29:18 <Born_Acorn> on fire 23:29:29 <Born_Acorn> It could go on forever. 23:29:39 <Sacro> nooo, burgeses 23:29:41 <Sacro> so much nicer 23:29:53 <Born_Acorn> but Walls make sausages too. 23:30:16 <Born_Acorn> You cannot beat a company that makes Ice Creams and sausages. It is scientifically impossible. 23:30:19 <Sacro> the same walls? 23:30:32 <Born_Acorn> Why yes. 23:30:44 <Sacro> hm 23:30:49 <Sacro> didnt know that 23:31:55 <Born_Acorn> Now you know how physically impossible it is to beat. 23:32:06 <Sacro> yeah, thats true :( 23:32:17 <Sacro> unless i set up an ice cream sausage and bacon company 23:32:17 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 23:32:24 <Sacro> now the danes make nice bacon... 23:32:30 <Born_Acorn> You expect ice creams, and then WHAM. They hit you with sausages when you least expect it. 23:32:51 <Sacro> i can imagine that being quite surprising 23:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> wow... heavy thunderstrom outside 23:33:21 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: not outside my window 23:33:23 <Born_Acorn> No, thats the giant turkey on its way to eat the orphanage. 23:35:43 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: ahhh 23:36:12 *** DjViper [i=djviper@mishima-empire.h-nett.no] has quit [Client Quit] 23:36:25 <[Shaman]> isn't CIA-14 supposed to be spamming svn updates or summat? :o 23:36:28 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B8229A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 23:38:54 <Born_Acorn> There might be no SVN updates to spam. 23:39:26 <Born_Acorn> or the illegal immigrant warehouse that runs CIA-14 was the orphanage the giant turkey just went to eat. 23:39:28 <Sacro> hence we have Born_Acorn :) 23:39:54 <Born_Acorn> I am a ghoooooost. 23:40:13 <[Shaman]> Born_Acorn: Then do something about it! :P 23:40:33 <Born_Acorn> The next shipment of illegal immigrants is not until next week. 23:40:42 <lws1984> lol 23:41:10 <Born_Acorn> This weeks shipment got lost in parliament, where they worked as cleaners. 23:41:22 <lws1984> lol 23:41:30 <lws1984> did they take out the trash? 23:41:54 <Born_Acorn> Yes. Parliament was empty. 23:42:00 <lws1984> lol 23:42:01 <lws1984> good good 23:42:28 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 23:43:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> grr... sattelite tv sucks during bad weather :p 23:44:10 <Sacro> lol 23:44:54 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: well, last week we must have had a magnetic storm or something 23:45:08 <Bjarni> I lost my TV signal 23:45:24 <Bjarni> it disappeared into noise 23:45:38 <Bjarni> all channels, so it was not a transmitter error 23:45:53 <Bjarni> I refuse to believe that all transmitters failed at the same time ;) 23:46:11 <Sacro> hmm 23:46:23 <Sacro> das evil bill is stepping down i see 23:46:38 <Bjarni> when I regained the signal, it was not worth watching as about half of the frames died in transmission... the same goes for the sound 23:47:22 <Bjarni> I guess it was related to the abnormally high ultra violet beam level from the sun 23:47:44 <lws1984> Sacro: aye ,tis good news 23:48:01 <Sacro> lws1984: well...is it? how mcuh input does he have nowadays/ 23:48:13 <lws1984> not much, i don't think 23:48:16 <Bjarni> this is a bit funny. We got the physical laws described so we know what goes on, but we can do nothing to prevent it from happening :P 23:48:20 <lws1984> he's really kinda symbolic 23:48:26 <lws1984> but he's a symbol of evil 23:48:30 <lws1984> so it's still good :) 23:48:36 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> wow... heavy thunderstrom outside <-- where are you in Germany? 23:49:06 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75B9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:49:16 <Bjarni> ... 23:49:21 <Bjarni> [01:48] <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause2> wow... heavy thunderstrom outside <-- where are you in Germany? 23:49:21 <Bjarni> [01:49] --> Eddi|zuHause (i=johekr@p54B75B9A.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #openttd 23:49:58 <Eddi|zuHause> i correct my last statement... power supply sucks during bad weather :p 23:50:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i am near Halle (Saale) 23:50:29 <Eddi|zuHause> we call that "central germany" 23:51:13 <Bjarni> ahh, near Leipzig 23:51:19 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 23:51:56 <Bjarni> I just looked up Germany in my Atlas and for some reason it was the first town name that I read 23:52:35 <Sacro> germany...due east from here i belive 23:53:08 <Bjarni> Sacro: well, that depends on your location ;) 23:54:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: due west of germany :P 23:54:17 <Bjarni> It appears that London is due west of Eddi|zuHause 23:54:21 * lws1984 is west of Germany also 23:54:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, london is almost the same degree (north) 23:55:12 <Bjarni> actually... central Germany... I heard of East and West Germany, but central.... 23:55:17 <Bjarni> did you build walls as well? 23:55:19 <Bjarni> :P 23:55:26 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-4474.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 23:55:41 <Eddi|zuHause> well... it's a little more complicated than that ;) 23:56:06 <Bjarni> you built force fields? 23:56:19 <lws1984> lol 23:56:20 <Eddi|zuHause> right ;) 23:56:48 <Bjarni> well, force fields ARE more complicated than standard walls 23:56:57 <Sacro> or maybe an iron curtain 23:56:59 <Eddi|zuHause> you know... at high times, germany was split up in more than 200 different countries 23:57:33 <Bjarni> I didn't know that the number was that high, but I knew that it was pretty high 23:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> then napoleon came along and made some "cleaning up" 23:58:21 <Bjarni> so did Bismarck and Hitler 23:58:28 <Eddi|zuHause> well... there are some funny pictures of that time 23:59:03 <Eddi|zuHause> one is a horse wagon, and a customs guy stands besides it 23:59:43 <Eddi|zuHause> the wagon driver says: "i have nothing to declare... the front of my wagon is already out of your country, in the middle there is nothing, and the back is not in your country yet"