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00:01:26 <RichK67> right - time to go 00:01:28 <RichK67> gn 00:01:43 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 00:07:43 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:10:34 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 00:10:56 *** Zr40__ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:12:40 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B754C0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:18:49 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176123157.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 00:23:04 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 00:25:54 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 00:28:47 <Sacro> hello Corn Baron 00:29:13 <lws1984> egads! 00:29:18 <lws1984> he comes bearing corn! 00:29:51 <Born_Acorn> Or do I? 00:29:56 <Born_Acorn> That, is the question. 00:30:45 <Sacro> or is it not? 00:34:46 *** Vornucopia is now known as Vornicus 00:39:31 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:40:13 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 00:42:22 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 01:00:09 *** iridium [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:00:46 *** iridia [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 01:00:52 *** iridia [n=iridium@host-84-9-208-77.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:06:21 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [] 01:06:26 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp24-31.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! 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[Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:49:54 <CIA-14> Darkvater * r5312 /trunk/clear_cmd.c: - Fix (r5288): Be very strict about terraforming. If a rail tile has a foundation already, bail out. 06:51:40 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 06:51:43 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 06:51:43 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@83.135.214.100] has joined #openttd 06:52:37 <DarkSSH> i hope this sorts out the terrafoming probs 06:54:28 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:54:33 <anboni> DarkSSH, what's your opinion on gigajum's last comment about creating a function? http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25744 06:55:03 <DarkSSH> I would need to read it 06:55:08 <DarkSSH> gimme min 06:55:09 <anboni> obviously:) 06:55:49 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:55:54 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3E5A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:59:56 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D4FE.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 07:12:36 <anboni> DarkSSH, i gotta leave for work in a min, wanna post any thoughts on that issue in a reply on the forum?:) 07:12:49 <DarkSSH> oh, shit, he forgot ;p 07:12:56 <anboni> lol 07:12:58 <anboni> noworries:) 07:15:03 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 07:15:34 <peter1138> what's the issue? 07:15:55 <peter1138> oh, creating a function instead of replicating code: generally a good idea 07:16:51 <XeryusTC> indeed 07:17:33 <XeryusTC> saves you alot of time when you need to fix something ;) 07:17:53 <peter1138> :) 07:29:29 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:30:00 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 08:05:24 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@131.155.105.197] has joined #openttd 08:10:16 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:17:27 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:21:01 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@cpc4-hem12-0-0-cust246.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["/quit"] 08:21:54 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 08:27:17 *** Hacky-Kid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104157.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:03 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:29:45 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 08:30:37 *** Vornotron [n=vorn@64-252-100-23.adsl.snet.net] has joined #openttd 08:31:16 <peter1138> *sigh* 08:31:28 <peter1138> windows a splode 08:31:52 <eleusis> lol 08:32:09 <eleusis> wear protective eyewear! 08:33:21 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 08:40:03 <peter1138> argh 08:40:10 <peter1138> case-sensitive usernames-- 08:41:40 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-99-153.adsl.snet.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 08:44:50 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 08:45:46 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@131.155.105.197] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:52:57 *** TL|Away [n=kvirc@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:53:34 <[Shaman]> hm, with the newest miniIN there's a few desyncs :o 08:54:05 <[Shaman]> dbg: [NET] Xaroth reported an error and is closing his connection (desync error) 08:54:05 <[Shaman]> *** Xaroth has left the game (desync error) 08:54:11 <[Shaman]> 3rd time in 20 minutes time 08:54:30 <[Shaman]> can't be the net, since it's on lan, no 'extreme load' on either of the 2 machines 08:54:35 <[Shaman]> just... *bam* desync 09:04:18 <Eddi|zuHause> net problems will ALWAYS issue 'connection lost' not desync 09:05:04 *** TL|Away is now known as TrueLight 09:10:09 <peter1138> [Shaman]: doing anything at the time? 09:10:40 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:10:46 <peter1138> i know there's a bug with placing industries in the TGP stuff currently, dunno if it'll cause desyncs though 09:11:09 *** Hacky-Kid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104157.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:15:18 <CIA-14> tron * r5313 /trunk/ (rail_map.h waypoint.h): Move IsRailWaypoint() to rail_map.h and remove unused enum 09:25:50 *** TinoM| is now known as TinoM 09:26:40 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 09:26:52 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.2/2006051612]"] 09:28:27 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["Disappearing /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\"] 09:32:06 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 09:32:46 *** roboman is now known as robodinner 09:40:16 <CIA-14> tron * r5314 /trunk/road_map.h: -Regression: When road works started on a road tile with barren roadside the road side turned into trees (caused by r4258) 09:42:12 <[Shaman]> [peter1138]: [Shaman]: doing anything at the time? << Does idling count as doing anything? 09:46:42 <peter1138> heh 09:50:31 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:50:55 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:51:38 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 09:54:51 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has joined #openttd 10:00:07 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.10] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:06:07 *** robodinner [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:12:57 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 10:15:58 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:17:27 <[Shaman]> peter1138: no problems in the begin years, but i left it running overnight, (left at '67, came back at '97).. got the desyncs when i logged back in 10:19:39 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:22:31 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:25:10 *** robodinner [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:26:29 *** robodinner is now known as roboman 10:28:57 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 10:34:24 *** Gussoh [n=gussoh@82.197.255.9] has joined #openttd 10:35:38 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 10:47:28 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:50:50 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 10:52:15 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 10:52:55 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:01:39 * roboman bed 11:01:49 *** roboman is now known as robobed 11:06:39 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bleh."] 11:11:34 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-147-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:13:38 *** Hagbard_Ub [n=hagbard@81-235-253-135-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:24:07 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:24:54 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:35:21 *** robobed [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:41:22 *** Zaviori [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:43:02 *** Zaviori_ [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:59:29 *** Morlark [n=Sean@host-137-205-71-139.res.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 12:00:51 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:05:48 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 12:09:52 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.1] has joined #openttd 12:12:05 *** Zavior [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:12:08 <Trenskow> is bjarni on vacation ? 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Hate monday mornings 12:52:36 <Sacro> me too 12:52:40 <Sacro> oh wait, im in bed :) 12:52:58 <peter1138> lazy sod 12:53:05 <Belugas> And you don't give a **** about what day it is :D 12:53:08 <Sacro> hehe 12:53:27 <Sacro> unless its thursday an i have to sign on 12:54:13 *** Zavior_ [n=asdadsq@d195-237-7-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:54:46 <Belugas> great 12:55:02 <Belugas> Just received the test I have to perform today 12:55:30 <Sacro> ooh :S 12:55:33 <Belugas> 15 pages, Exception Test Script 12:56:14 <Sacro> lol 12:56:16 <Sacro> fun' 12:56:58 <Belugas> like... NOT 12:57:21 <Belugas> because, ONCE MORE, cannot do OTTD stuff 12:57:55 <Belugas> newcargo is on a real stop since... well... a long time now 12:58:22 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 12:58:46 <MeusH> hello 12:58:48 <MeusH> DarkSSH: ping 13:01:35 *** ledow [n=ledow@jaimejwalker.plus.com] has joined #openttd 13:03:43 *** valhalla1hiding is now known as valhalla`hiding 13:03:43 *** gigajum [i=lucy@dslb-084-056-147-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 13:10:31 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 13:13:45 *** scia_ [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 13:15:52 *** DaftDog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-233-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:02 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:20:45 *** DaftDog [n=christia@dslb-084-056-233-033.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 13:25:15 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:42:50 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ciao"] 13:47:49 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181090156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:55:13 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:00:03 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:00:16 *** _bitwise [n=chatzill@ipa104.4.tellas.gr] has joined #openttd 14:00:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [i=johekr@p54B75EEE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:01:40 <_bitwise> hola 14:01:51 <_bitwise> old ttd user, new openttd user here 14:01:54 <_bitwise> I have questions :) 14:02:18 <Prof_Frink> Do you now? 14:02:22 <_bitwise> in the trainlist, what does the little dot next to the train number mean? (sometimes it is "unlit", sometimes it is green) 14:03:05 <Prof_Frink> Profitability rating. Not sure quite how it works, but green is good. 14:03:23 <glx> grey for first 3 years 14:03:30 <_bitwise> groovy 14:03:49 <MeusH> yellow means low profit 14:03:56 <MeusH> 0-10000 pounds, I think 14:04:05 <MeusH> green means > 10000 pounds per year 14:04:11 <MeusH> red dot means loss 14:04:22 <_bitwise> I just started my first openttd game. Haven't really explored much of the new features.. mostly interested in playing the game again in windows at high res. :D 14:04:29 <_bitwise> I am looking forward to getting addicted again *sigh* 14:04:53 <_bitwise> I did groove on the engine upgrade function. That is quite nice. 14:04:54 <MeusH> DarkSSH: ping 14:05:13 <_bitwise> MeusH: thanks 14:05:29 <_bitwise> I have noticed that the tradition "force depot" doesn't quite work very well with openttd :| 14:05:30 <MeusH> no problem 14:05:37 <MeusH> Autoreplace is really nice feature 14:05:39 <_bitwise> that sort of tweaked my head. 14:06:05 <Prof_Frink> _bitwise: use goto depot instead 14:09:50 <_bitwise> hrm 14:09:54 <_bitwise> I will investigate that. 14:10:04 <_bitwise> but its well known that this http://internettrash.com/users/ttdxcentral/images/service3.gif doesn't work as it used to? 14:10:34 <Sacro> depends on the pathfinder 14:10:44 <MeusH> use orders 14:10:55 <MeusH> put a depot in trains orders and the problem is gone 14:11:32 <Sacro> brb shower 14:11:47 <Prof_Frink> Unless the depots are on multiple parallel tracks and the train needs to go to any one of them 14:12:15 <_bitwise> ok.. but I am correct in that the bahvior is _not_ the same as the original ttd? 14:12:26 <_bitwise> s/bahvior/behavior 14:12:47 <peter1138> it's probably changed somewhere. you can get rid of the straight through bits 14:12:55 <_bitwise> actually, now it seems to handle a depot .. yeah what peter said 14:13:13 <peter1138> though... it should work 14:13:14 <peter1138> hmm 14:14:07 <_bitwise> that used to be unreliable a bit... especially if I happen to have one of those on a track where the train exiting the station wants to go towards a resource that's the opposite direction from the track direction (it'll get there with a clover leaf at some point) 14:14:19 <_bitwise> but my first game from last night doesn't have anything that complicated yet :) 14:14:30 <_bitwise> I think I will be a frequent visitor here for a bit :P 14:14:37 <peter1138> _bitwise: what happens for you with that arrangement? 14:14:46 <peter1138> it appears to work for me 14:15:25 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 14:15:26 <Sacro> peter1138: it depends on the PF 14:15:43 <_bitwise> peter1138: actually, its random, sometimes the train will try to cross into the straight bit, and it will turn back sometimes 3 or four times and then chose the right path into the depot 14:16:10 <_bitwise> Sacro: I have everything set as default for 0.4.7 14:16:22 <peter1138> that's probably the difference 14:16:39 <_bitwise> peter1138: what.. the path finding algo? 14:16:42 <Sacro> i cant remember what default is 14:17:10 <peter1138> well, i'm using a newer version 14:17:15 <Sacro> it should work with OPF, but im guessing NTP, NPF and YAPF will try and avoid the depot 14:17:15 <peter1138> Sacro: ntp 14:17:38 <peter1138> NTP or NPF are the only options in 0.4.7 iirc 14:17:42 <Sacro> yeah...thought it would be, you'd need opf for that to work 14:17:54 <_bitwise> are all these things in the release? 14:17:58 <_bitwise> or are they in the nightlies? 14:18:08 <peter1138> YAPF is in the nightlies only 14:18:13 <peter1138> OPF doesn't exist anymore for trains 14:18:28 <Sacro> yup, NTP, or NPF only 14:18:29 <peter1138> (and doesn't in 0.4.7, i think) 14:18:47 <peter1138> hmm, 15:18, time for a lunch break? ;p 14:18:53 <_bitwise> hmm, so it should work with OPF and that doesn't exist anymore? :P 14:19:05 <_bitwise> ok, bbiab , cleaning lady is gonna clean my desk. 14:19:07 <_bitwise> she's a nazi 14:19:10 <Sacro> _bitwise: OPF = original path finder 14:19:15 <peter1138> no, dunno what Sacro was talking about :P 14:19:41 <Sacro> peter1138: 0.4.7 only has NTP and NPF 14:27:33 <_bitwise> and opf is gone from the dev tree now? 14:29:33 <_bitwise> ok, reading the wiki. ntp is an improved version of the original buggy path finding that we all loved 14:30:05 <_bitwise> npf is the glorious global path finding that works and works for everything but can be cpu intensive for oodles of trains and big maps 14:30:55 <_bitwise> which means.. if I am not using the new fangled signals anywhere yet, ntp should be what I want. 14:31:12 <_bitwise> I have no idea what it is using since I am not running right now. I am "working". :) 14:31:46 <_bitwise> hmm, the wiki says both of them are disabled by default. 14:32:00 *** glx is now known as glx|away 14:35:10 <_bitwise> the only option related in my untouched openttd.cfg file is new_pathfinding_all (npf) and it is set to false. 14:35:34 <_bitwise> which means I have no idea what is enabled by default :D 14:35:54 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104157.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #openttd 14:37:07 <_bitwise> I have killed the conversation. 14:37:11 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:37:16 * _bitwise plants a flower on the grave. 14:40:45 <Sacro> im back 14:40:58 <Sacro> _bitwise: NTP by default 14:42:26 <_bitwise> so ntp is so much improved that it doesnt like the classic force depot. :| 14:43:22 <Sacro> dunno, never used NTP or force depot 14:44:28 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:46:09 *** ProfFrink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:46:31 <_bitwise> Sacro: you just put depots into the trains orders everytime? 14:46:47 <Sacro> _bitwise: if i need to, yeah 14:48:55 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:48:56 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 14:49:36 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181090156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 14:51:32 <Brianetta> NTP will always be the network time protocol, to me. 14:52:28 <_bitwise> Brianetta: amen 14:52:54 <_bitwise> ok, work is over, time to fire it up and expirement a bit :) 14:53:09 <_bitwise> maybe this one will work as expecte http://internettrash.com/users/ttdxcentral/images/service4.gif 14:53:21 <_bitwise> s/ecte/ected/ 14:54:33 <Sacro> you can do / depot \ 14:54:38 *** scia_ [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 14:54:51 <Sacro> -----/depot\-- 14:55:27 <Sacro> lost terminal...sounds like a bad day at waterloo! 14:55:47 <Prof_Frink> Standard irssi quit message IIRC 14:56:31 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: probably if you shutdown without closing it, and the tty ends 14:56:54 <Prof_Frink> no, it's the quit message 14:57:22 <Sacro> lol, ok 14:57:29 <Sacro> i dont use irssi muchj 15:02:54 <_bitwise> There still seems to be that bug where you can't get above "Very Good (72%)" rating at a station no matter how much you have trains waiting for good constantly. 15:03:20 <_bitwise> and it used to be if you had a train waiting for goods almost all the time, production would increase. I don't see that happening. 15:05:22 <Sacro> production is related to input 15:05:26 <Sacro> with goods 15:05:31 <Sacro> and steel 15:08:32 <_bitwise> not "goods" goods.. perhaps product is better term. 15:08:38 <_bitwise> right now I am speaking specifically of oil 15:09:03 <Prof_Frink> oil *wells* cannot increase prodn 15:13:07 <_bitwise> but they can fluctuate? 15:13:08 <Sacro> nope, they can only decrease as they run out 15:18:21 <Frostregen> hmm, anyone knows what the company color-color indices are? and if i have to use a special draw command when using this with buttons? 15:18:55 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:18 <_bitwise> weird, mine fluctuates. :| 15:19:18 *** Hackykid [i=Hackykid@dyn-104157.nbw.tue.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:24:41 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 15:25:21 <Sacro> Frostregen: check ttdpatch tiki 15:25:50 <Sacro> AFIAK, you just use certain colours on the pallete 15:26:18 <Frostregen> when using this in stations and vehicles. yes 15:26:44 <Frostregen> doesn't seem like the conversion is done for buttons by default 15:27:12 <Sacro> hmm, not surre then 15:28:55 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:29:29 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 15:31:28 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 15:34:53 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 15:36:51 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:38:11 <peter1138> some gui parts are already company coloured 15:38:16 <peter1138> so, look at them 15:38:29 <Frostregen> I'm on it 15:40:39 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 15:41:24 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41:33 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 15:47:32 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:47:37 *** Ammler [n=irc@182.158.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 15:48:12 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has joined #openttd 15:48:49 *** valhalla1hiding [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has joined #openttd 15:48:52 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:49:09 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:26 <Sacro> anyone still here? 15:49:37 <Belugas> from time to time, yes :) 15:49:43 <Belugas> so that makes it two 15:49:58 <Sacro> yup, was getting bored 15:50:55 <Belugas> Don't have the luxury of getting bored :( So enjoy it for me hehe 15:52:43 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181090156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 15:56:35 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 15:57:04 <Frostregen> ok, works 15:57:44 *** FredNeuberger [n=fred@geekhosting.de] has quit ["Serverwechsel"] 15:58:30 *** e1ko_AfK is now known as e1ko 16:00:12 <Frostregen> hmm, would it be an option to change the DrawSprite call in DrawWindowWidgets to use company colors? 16:00:24 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 16:03:07 *** valhalla`hiding [n=valhalla@dsl68-30.fastxdsl.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03:16 <Frostregen> the blue is double used 16:03:22 <Frostregen> but looks quite interesting ;) 16:03:50 <Sacro> lol 16:06:39 <Frostregen> http://saddam.ath.cx/yellow-red.png 16:06:53 *** glx|away is now known as glx 16:11:11 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176112150.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:11:43 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 16:11:50 <Wolf01> hi guys 16:11:58 <Frostregen> hi 16:17:31 <Sacro> hey Wolf01 16:17:49 <Wolf01> hi Sacro 16:18:22 <Trippledence_> lol 16:19:07 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:27:37 <XeryusTC> Frostregen: the terraform button looks bad that way 16:29:58 <Frostregen> i like lava ;D 16:30:09 <Jpl> yellow looks good ;) 16:30:27 <Prof_Frink> Frostregen: you'd also want to color the band on the hat of the companies menu 16:31:09 * Prof_Frink notices the icon bottom-right. 16:31:14 <Frostregen> ^^ 16:32:04 <Frostregen> it does look much worse with other colors, so its no real choice 16:32:39 <MeusH> Frostregen: It will be quite possible with new graphics system 16:32:49 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 16:32:50 <MeusH> so let's support egladil_ :) 16:32:56 <Frostregen> there won't be pallete stuff anyway. or? 16:33:01 <Frostregen> palette* 16:33:02 <MeusH> Frostregen: there will be no palette 16:33:15 <Frostregen> ok 16:33:37 <MeusH> Each image may have three other-colour images 16:33:47 <MeusH> so let's take the "put sign" button 16:34:03 <Frostregen> put sign, or buy land? 16:34:05 <MeusH> The sign outline may be visible on one of "other-colour" image 16:34:09 <MeusH> oh, buy land 16:34:34 <MeusH> three other images, because it is planned to have three company colours 16:34:45 <MeusH> one major, and two colours for details 16:35:00 <Frostregen> nice 16:35:04 <egladil_> hmm. i heard my name :) 16:35:09 *** egladil_ is now known as egladil 16:35:13 <Frostregen> the other images are just greyscales then 16:35:14 <Frostregen> ? 16:35:33 <MeusH> IIRC yes 16:35:36 <MeusH> let me find an example 16:36:01 <Ihmemies> WHAT I SEE 16:36:02 <Frostregen> i can imagine this. programmed stuff this way too 16:36:06 <Ihmemies> COPYPASTE TOOL?? 16:36:34 <Ihmemies> or is it scenario editor? what? :D 16:36:43 <Frostregen> both 16:36:56 <Frostregen> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25037 16:37:12 <MeusH> http://www.doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/ <- huh? 16:37:26 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 16:38:09 <MeusH> eh, what happened with Alltaken's website? 16:38:14 <egladil> the image format for 32bpp gfx is one 32bpp (argb) bitmap and one 8bpp cc bitmap 16:38:27 <MeusH> argb? 16:38:28 <Ihmemies> no more fucking priorities 16:38:38 <egladil> alpha red green blue 16:38:50 <MeusH> ahh, I always knew it as rgba :D 16:38:59 <egladil> :) 16:39:06 <MeusH> egladil: do you know what happened with Alltaken's website? 16:39:11 <egladil> no idea 16:39:11 <MeusH> where are his things? 16:39:16 <MeusH> okay 16:39:28 <MeusH> hmm... web archive maybye? 16:40:16 * Prof_Frink pings out 16:41:12 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:41:21 <MeusH> HUH? and this one works http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php 16:42:15 <Ihmemies> cloverleafs!!! 16:42:15 <MeusH> http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php/v/wip/ottdwip/overlay.png.html 16:42:17 <MeusH> plus 16:42:21 <MeusH> http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php/v/wip/ottdwip/base.png.html 16:42:23 <MeusH> equals 16:42:28 <MeusH> http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php/v/wip/ottdwip/CC1.png.html 16:43:00 <Frostregen> seen those in the wiki...i think 16:43:52 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:44:41 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:44:56 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:44:58 <MeusH> DarkSSH: ping pong pung 16:46:23 <MeusH> egladil: do you know more about http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php/v/wip/ottdwip/farms.jpg.html ? 16:46:45 <MeusH> is it available in /32bpp branch? 16:47:16 <Frostregen> wow, nice 16:47:26 <guru3> looks snazzy 16:47:31 <egladil> no, as the 32bpp branch does not include the png loading code yet 16:47:58 <Frostregen> but somehow i think it will loose some of its charme 16:48:06 <MeusH> egladil: is Alltaken the only one who can do such a screenshots? 16:48:08 <Wolf01> http://doug.mudpuddle.co.nz/gallery/main.php/v/wip/ottdwip/monorails.jpg.html i like these monorails very much 16:48:54 <MeusH> yes, new tracks will be awesome 16:49:05 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:09 <egladil> MeusH: no, i can with the 32bpp version i started with before the branch (which the branch is partly based on) 16:49:38 <MeusH> okay 16:49:45 <MeusH> how's the progress? do you need any help? 16:50:00 <egladil> but the branch has been kind of slow the last few months (exams, going skiing, more exams, computer breaking down, yet more exams) 16:50:17 <MeusH> oh, a pity 16:50:29 <MeusH> and how's Alltaken? He has had a lot of exams, too 16:50:45 <egladil> i haven't heard from him in a while 16:51:30 <Wolf01> is possible to have animated switches? if a train want to go straight and the picture shows always the switch that is switched looks weird 16:51:58 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3CFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:52:05 <MeusH> egladil: so you aren't capable yet of loading pngs in 32bpp branch? 16:52:24 <egladil> no, i wanted to finish replace all old draw calls first 16:52:26 <Sacro> Wolf01: so you can visably see which way the switch points? 16:52:30 <MeusH> and how about resizing sprites? Does it work now? Smoothly? 16:52:31 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:53:07 <Wolf01> yes, that was what i thought 16:53:09 <egladil> if you mean for zoom out then it works 16:53:16 <MeusH> and zoom in? 16:53:38 <MeusH> especially custom levels 16:53:39 <egladil> there is no extra zoom in yet 16:53:49 <MeusH> I thought about particles 16:54:13 <MeusH> it would be nice to load a single steam cloud png, then change it's transparency and zoom it in slowly 16:54:21 <MeusH> to create nicer effects 16:54:26 <MeusH> more nice* 16:54:31 <Tron> ftp://tron.homeunix.org/ottd/roadworks.diff <--- comments? 16:54:31 <MeusH> whatever** 16:55:13 <Trenskow> damn those images is cool 16:55:18 <Trenskow> s/is/are 16:55:23 <Tron> peter1138, DarkSSH? 16:55:29 <MeusH> Tron: thanks to you, road works will eventually work as they should 16:55:36 <MeusH> why not to commit it, eh? 16:55:40 <MeusH> DarkSSH is gone away 16:56:26 <Trenskow> damn i would like those graphics ingame :) 16:56:31 <_bitwise> hmm, it seems the old methods for sabotaging the competition dont work as well 16:56:31 <peter1138> Tron: ? 16:56:32 <peter1138> ah 16:56:48 <MeusH> Tron: I'd remove the lang/german.txt, however 16:56:54 <MeusH> you know, WT2 doesn't like it 16:57:08 <Tron> i'm german 16:57:09 <peter1138> meush 16:57:12 <MeusH> yeah I know 16:57:15 <peter1138> please shut up about things you don't know 16:57:23 <MeusH> what? is it fixed now? 16:58:08 <Tron> peter1138: it fixes some glitches: you could "turn" the exvacation by 90° if you removed/added road pieces or even remove the whole thing altogether 16:58:16 <Wolf01> tron, with that patch you shouldn't be able to build a piece of rail where there is a roadwork? 16:58:20 <Tron> s/exvacation/excavation/ 16:58:22 <peter1138> Tron: so i see. looks good to me 16:58:28 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549476C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:59:18 <MeusH> peter1138: is WT2 proof for commiting changes to other langfiles than english.txt, now? 16:59:27 <peter1138> was it ever not? 16:59:45 <_bitwise> Tron: apparently you write code on a wide screen :P 16:59:54 <MeusH> yes, MiHaMiX was once fixing things with WT2's diff database 17:00:08 <peter1138> only the isocode thing is dodgy, and that's not used by anything except WT2 anyway 17:00:15 <MeusH> as WT2 saves chages, not full .txts each change 17:00:27 <Tron> _bitwise: mostly in 80x50 terminals, why? 17:04:01 <_bitwise> Tron: nm, I blame the previous commiter for the long lines I see :) 17:05:07 <Hackykid> hmm, that patch looks a bit misaligned from my browser 17:05:25 <Hackykid> prolly cause its not using size 2 tabs 17:06:25 <Tron> _bitwise: this particular line you see was probably me, too 17:06:55 <Tron> Hackykid: and this is one of the gazillion reasons why tabs suck 17:07:00 * _bitwise is an 80column-line numbers nazi 17:07:14 <_bitwise> but I have no commit access to openttd so don't worry bout me :D 17:07:15 <Hackykid> ooh, a gazzilion, that much huh? 17:08:42 <Tron> Hackykid: maybe even a brazillian (; 17:09:01 <Tron> _bitwise: i prefer 80 cols, too 17:12:08 <Wolf01> tron have you tried my patch to make catenary transparent? 17:12:41 <Tron> ? 17:12:42 <Wolf01> i hope i did the right changes on elrail.c 17:13:02 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=50394 17:13:30 <Wolf01> in other ways it prompted errors 17:13:45 <Wolf01> so i thought that this was the only way to do it 17:15:08 <peter1138> gah, sodding thing 17:15:16 <peter1138> running in debug mode and it won't let me set a break point :( 17:17:12 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B35E8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:20:01 <Wolf01> tron are you still alive? 17:23:03 <CIA-14> tron * r5315 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 17:23:03 <CIA-14> -Fix: Prohibit altering a road tile while road works are in progress 17:23:03 <CIA-14> This fixes some glitches like "turning" the excavation by adding/removing road bits or removing the road piece 17:24:03 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 17:24:34 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:24:59 <anboni> evening 17:25:32 <anboni> ok, how do i set a window as dirty? and why does my patch (loading progress) need it, while the vehicle window doesnt seem to need it for the speed display while traveling?:) 17:26:49 <Tron> grep Dirty *.h 17:27:18 <anboni> that's easy enough, thanks :) 17:28:37 <Tron> and a change in the speed display needs a redraw, too 17:29:16 <anboni> but that isn't done explicitely, from what i can tell.. is that because the viewport is changing anyway, so that's triggering a redraw? 17:29:20 <Tron> grep -A 3 vehicle_speed *.c 17:31:21 *** Trenskow [i=outlet@85.218.142.48] has joined #openttd 17:31:45 <Trenskow> someone with windows who can tell me what the internet connection sharing / firewall service exe filename is ? 17:31:53 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:32:06 <Trenskow> ad-aware had decided to fuck things up :S 17:32:36 <Wolf01> is a service, and i don't remember the dll which is executed 17:33:03 <Trenskow> you can see that under services in administrative tools 17:33:09 <Trenskow> s/that/it 17:33:31 <Wolf01> C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs 17:33:36 <Trenskow> thx alot 17:35:22 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:35:32 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 17:38:10 <anboni> Tron, for a function, shared between all 4 transport types, that does stuff with the status bar of a vehicle window.. I'm thinking that function should go in vehicle_gui.c, correct? 17:38:13 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:38:23 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:38:44 <Tron> doesn't sound insensible 17:39:26 *** Trenskow [i=outlet@85.218.142.48] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:40:32 <CIA-14> miham * r5316 /trunk/lang/ (estonian.txt hungarian.txt): 17:40:32 <CIA-14> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-19 19:40:09 17:40:32 <CIA-14> estonian - 4 fixed by t2t2 (4) 17:40:32 <CIA-14> hungarian - 1 fixed by miham (1) 17:43:56 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:44:01 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 17:51:34 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-210-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:55:58 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 17:56:08 <Sacro> Tron: lovely use of double negatives :) 17:56:17 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:52 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 17:58:05 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 17:58:23 <Trenskow> have i ever mentioned how much i hate pc's and windows 17:58:27 <Trenskow> and love os x btw :) 17:58:46 <Sacro> i love linux 17:59:03 <anboni> Trenskow, www.opensuse.org :) 17:59:07 <Trenskow> my girlfriends new pc... she got it a week, and hadn't had time to install antivirus, and now she has a lovely virus 17:59:17 <Trenskow> week ago 17:59:27 <Wolf01> i love linux too, but i'm lazy and i don't want to switch to linux 17:59:29 <Trenskow> the virus has deleted the firewall / ics :D 17:59:47 <Sacro> Trenskow: and that can only be a good thing 17:59:51 <Prof_Frink> anboni: you misspelled www.ubuntu.com 17:59:54 <Prof_Frink> ;) 18:00:00 <MiHaMiX> :DD 18:00:12 <Trenskow> personally i prefer debian 18:00:14 <anboni> Prof_Frink, matter of taste, not going into that discussion :) 18:00:19 <Sacro> lets face it, if the firewall did its job, then it wouldnt have been overwritten 18:00:27 <Sacro> noooo, Arch Linux FTW 18:00:38 <Wolf01> Prof_Frink also you mispelled http://www.kubuntu.org/ :P 18:00:51 <MiHaMiX> kubuntu-6.06-dvd-i386.iso 18:00:51 <MiHaMiX> Torrent: done 3487.7 MB Rate: 1617.2 / 0.0 KB Uploaded: 1279119.3 MB 18:01:08 <Prof_Frink> Wolf01: true dat 18:01:17 <anboni> i kinda prefer fedora for normal use, but since i earn my pay at a Novell shop, I need to get plenty hands-on experience with suse for when that really starts getting popular :) 18:01:46 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 18:01:49 <Sacro> cant stand suse 18:02:13 <hylje> gentoo ftw 18:02:25 <Sacro> hylje: yeuch, all that compile time 18:02:31 <hylje> its one-time 18:02:33 <Prof_Frink> hylje: for the waste-of-time? 18:02:41 <SchAmane> gentoo rulez, but suse is nice too 18:03:22 <Sacro> arch is i686, and you can compile what you need if you so desire 18:03:23 <Wolf01> suse has the bigger driver support 18:03:33 <Prof_Frink> "Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning "I'm sick of recompiling Gentoo"" --Jeff Waugh 18:03:36 <hylje> besides theres binary packages for the biggest compile offenders 18:03:36 <Wolf01> *biggest 18:04:24 <Sacro> hmm, how can an mp3 skip... 18:04:43 <hylje> you dont throw enough processing power at the decoder 18:04:47 <Prof_Frink> ripped from a scratched CD? 18:06:50 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: errr...i wouldnt...know... 18:06:51 <Wolf01> i ripped an mp3 from a scratched cd to re-burn that (original) cd to do a favour for a friend of mine... it took about 45 minutes for one song 18:07:31 <hylje> : 18:07:32 <hylje> o 18:07:39 <Wolf01> but the song is perfect 18:08:27 <Sacro> nice 18:08:40 <MeusH> DarkSSH: ping 18:09:43 <Wolf01> the next time i want to do the same work, i think that the laptop will kill me burning my fingers... the keyboard was smoking XD 18:14:36 <Zavior> :P 18:14:50 <hylje> :o 18:15:09 <Prof_Frink> :n 18:16:07 <hylje> :g 18:16:20 <Sacro> :t 18:16:33 <anboni> :wq 18:16:34 <Prof_Frink> :q! 18:16:38 <anboni> oh wait, wrong window :) 18:16:43 <Wolf01> :wtf? 18:16:54 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:17:05 <Zimri> evening all 18:17:23 <Wolf01> hi Zimri 18:18:05 <Sacro> :orly? 18:18:32 <hylje> :yarly 18:18:55 <anboni> :oic 18:19:00 <Sacro> : 18:20:21 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:20:25 *** Damme__ [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:20:28 <Sacro> :srsly? 18:20:32 <hylje> :fosho 18:22:27 <Sacro> :lol 18:23:31 <hylje> :whywetalkinvim 18:24:43 <Sacro> :whoknows 18:24:55 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolfolo|AWAY 18:24:56 <Wolfolo|AWAY> Sono away:[ :(eating) ] lasciate pure un messaggio in segreteria 18:25:54 <Sacro> buh :| 18:25:58 <valhalla1hiding> O_o 18:26:03 <hylje> omg 18:26:23 <Sacro> wtf 18:26:29 <hylje> ftw 18:26:30 <Prof_Frink> tla 18:26:44 <anboni> pwned 18:27:06 <Sacro> anboni: that aint 3 letters :( 18:27:14 <Prof_Frink> detla 18:27:15 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588ada.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:27:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:27:32 <Bjarni> great news everyone 18:27:55 <Bjarni> you have all been selected to read this channel 18:28:06 * Prof_Frink has left #openttd 18:28:15 * Sacro has left #openttd too 18:28:45 <Bjarni> stupid Englishmen 18:28:55 <Trenskow> :) 18:30:05 <Sacro> :orly 18:30:09 * Bjarni notes that it will not pay to invade England... the forced labour will refuse to work 18:30:31 <hylje> :yarly 18:30:58 <Sacro> why invade england? 18:31:09 <anboni> nothing to be had there anyway 18:31:40 <Bjarni> yeah, except forced labour, but it appears that we can remove that from the list of good stuff there 18:31:46 <Sacro> not like we want a load of dutch people turning up 18:31:56 <Bjarni> o_O 18:31:58 <anboni> that wouldn't be good 18:32:01 <Bjarni> I'm not Dutch 18:32:12 <Sacro> Danish then 18:32:14 <anboni> isn't danmark the capital of amsterdam? 18:32:15 <hylje> theres epix to be had 18:32:27 <Bjarni> anboni: are you an US citizen? 18:32:54 <anboni> Bjarni, nope 18:33:00 <Bjarni> you act like one 18:33:02 <Bjarni> :P 18:33:22 <anboni> yeah.. take some effort to stoop down to that level though 18:36:05 <Zimri> apart from placing radio masts, is there a way to prevent excessive landscaping ? 18:37:10 <Bjarni> no 18:37:13 <Bjarni> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danmark 18:37:19 <Bjarni> now that's a nice page 18:37:21 <Zimri> damn 18:37:52 <Bjarni> I can understand it, which makes it one of the nice pages in the Dutch wikipedia :D 18:37:57 <anboni> hehe 18:38:24 * peter1138 > home (finally) 18:38:27 <anboni> never knew greenland is part of the kingdom Danmark :) 18:38:27 <Sacro> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Denmark 18:38:43 <hylje> i knew someone would bring up uncyclopedia 18:39:39 <Sacro> hehe, it amuses me 18:39:56 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B846D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:39:59 <Bjarni> It is often mistaken for the capital of Sweden. That is wrong. The capital of Sweden is actually Norway. Denmark is, in fact, the capital of IKEA 18:40:06 <Bjarni> ok, that's the level of Sacro 18:40:13 <Bjarni> we knew that, but still.... 18:40:15 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 18:40:58 <Zavior> Helskinki, capital of sweden. 18:42:02 <hylje> hellskinka 18:42:17 <Zavior> the devilous ham 18:43:34 <Jpl> Zavior: no, Turku is. 18:44:23 * Sacro is hungry 18:44:49 <Bjarni> If you climb a very, very high tree you will be able to see Moscow from Denmark. <-- that would mean that it's a pretty tall tree and you got pretty good eyes 18:45:11 <hylje> and the air is pretty clean 18:45:25 <Bjarni> Jpl: Turku... that's the capital of the river people only, not all of Finland 18:45:43 <Bjarni> err... Sweden 18:45:46 <Zavior> :D 18:45:52 <Sacro> mmm sveden 18:46:30 <Bjarni> you know, Turku's real name really indicate that those people do live in the river 18:46:45 <Jpl> Bjarni: it was capital of Finland when Sweden owned us. 18:46:52 <hylje> pwnde 18:47:41 <Zavior> Well it wasn't really a capital though 18:47:51 <Zavior> Just the place that the guy in charge lived i think 18:47:53 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B846D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:06 <Zavior> a bit too long since i've had to study these things :) 18:48:24 <Zavior> But saying it was a capital sure isn't wrong. 18:48:24 <Bjarni> yeah... it was a while ago 18:48:39 <Bjarni> it's a bit tricky to remember events that far back 18:48:50 <Bjarni> like where were you during those days? 18:49:33 <Jpl> I don't know a thing on that... 18:50:26 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-150-174.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:29 <AlexFili> hello everyone 18:50:48 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danelaw <-- we better reclaim what is(was) ours 18:51:01 <AlexFili> hi BJ 18:51:09 <Bjarni> AlexFili: have you figured out what to do with the include dir yet? 18:51:13 <AlexFili> why has nothing been updated since april 16th? 18:51:21 <AlexFili> um.... i abandoned that lol 18:51:32 <Bjarni> I take that as a no 18:51:34 <AlexFili> it was too hard 18:51:55 <AlexFili> basically, i did not recieve sufficient help to complete my task 18:52:10 <AlexFili> :p 18:53:09 <Bjarni> <AlexFili> basically, i did not recieve sufficient help to complete my task <-- well, your task was as easy as getting a spaceship to travel faster than light speed.... it's just not possible 18:53:33 <Bjarni> I mean as a practical application 18:54:03 <AlexFili> someone could do it 18:54:13 <AlexFili> i mean, someone did openttd for psp right? and a n64 emulator for psp? 18:54:22 <Bjarni> not if their only help was this channel :P 18:54:26 <AlexFili> the thing is, i dont have the programming knowledge to try lol 18:54:37 <Bjarni> gah 18:54:41 <hylje> :< 18:54:59 <Sacro> AlexFili: what are you trying to do? 18:55:13 <Bjarni> I can run a C64 emulator on my computer and I can run OpenTTD on my computer, that's not the same as I can make a C64 run OpenTTD 18:55:21 <AlexFili> run openttd on a DS 18:55:25 <AlexFili> that was my initial idea 18:55:42 <Sacro> ahh :D thats what i started looking into 18:55:48 <AlexFili> and what did you find? :p 18:55:52 <AlexFili> spiders and cobwebs? 18:56:00 <Bjarni> an impossible task? 18:56:06 <Sacro> Bjarni: ill pay you , if you can get me OpenTTD running on a C64 18:56:18 <Sacro> i found SDL ported to the DS as well as a compiler suite 18:56:34 <AlexFili> i found that too, but thats where i couldnt get any further 18:56:36 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjarni: ill pay you , if you can get me OpenTTD running on a C64 <-- not worth my time 18:56:45 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:56:45 <Sacro> Bjarni: ? 18:56:49 <Bjarni> lol 18:56:51 <Sacro> its double my last offer :P 18:56:56 <AlexFili> so bj, whats with the lack of openttd work lately?> 18:56:59 <Bjarni> logged 18:57:01 <Frostregen> I'll give 1 too =) 18:57:07 <Sacro> logged? 18:57:13 <hylje> :O 18:57:22 <AlexFili> he has logs in his house? 18:57:28 <hylje> large ones at that 18:57:38 <AlexFili> send them to a sawmill! 18:57:44 <Bjarni> I just saved a log of this... to show some people of what impossible mean 18:57:45 <AlexFili> i'll give a 4x subsidy if you deliver 18:57:52 <Bjarni> and people trying to do it anyway 18:57:57 <hylje> this channel delivers 18:57:57 <AlexFili> come on bj 18:58:00 <AlexFili> nothing is impossible 18:58:10 <Bjarni> !insult AlexFili 18:58:11 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni tells AlexFili: Perhaps your whole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others. 18:58:15 <Bjarni> don't call me bj 18:58:26 <AlexFili> >_< 18:58:31 <AlexFili> why not? lol 18:58:39 <Bjarni> you are a kid, right? 18:58:39 <Prof_Frink> call 'im bjtab 18:58:45 <AlexFili> B.J. are two fine letter 18:58:48 <hylje> bj! 18:58:49 <hylje> bj! 18:58:59 <AlexFili> bjtab is worse then Bjarni 18:59:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 18:59:02 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj 18:59:18 <AlexFili> oh 18:59:19 <Prof_Frink> AlexFili: use the tab key instead of typing tab ;) 18:59:21 <AlexFili> i see 18:59:25 <AlexFili> OOOOOOOOOOH ok 18:59:27 <AlexFili> lol 18:59:55 <AlexFili> but, back to my point 18:59:59 <AlexFili> thats not impossible Bjarni 19:00:02 <AlexFili> just very very hard 19:00:36 <AlexFili> you can get dos, ps2 and xbox emulators on the pc, granted they dont work very well, but they doesnt mean it cant be done 19:00:41 <Bjarni> I meant getting OpenTTD to run on a C64 19:00:46 <Bjarni> that's impossible 19:00:53 <AlexFili> give me the specs of C64 19:00:57 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:01:00 <Bjarni> you got around 30k free RAM 19:01:02 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B822DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:01:03 <hylje> gief epix plx 19:01:11 <Bjarni> less than a MHz CPU 19:01:15 <AlexFili> :o 19:01:16 <Frostregen> 0,97 19:01:19 <AlexFili> ok, i admit, taht is quite impossible 19:01:22 <Bjarni> and I think it was a 8 bit CPU 19:01:27 <Frostregen> there are overclocked 20mhz versions 19:01:31 <Bjarni> it was THE computer.... in the 80s 19:01:34 <AlexFili> unless you have a screen of 2x2 squares, reworked graphics, reworked code... 19:01:42 <hylje> :D 19:01:45 <AlexFili> yeah 19:01:52 <AlexFili> just like Horse travel was THE transport of 1910 19:02:00 <ln-> Bjarni: it is indeed possible to run openttd on C64, but it requires methods similar to this: http://www.math.buffalo.edu/~sww/s-b/WaterOnMars2_gcc_big.jpg 19:02:14 <AlexFili> and that means? 19:02:36 <AlexFili> you have one very squashed mars bar? 19:02:43 <Sacro> lets have an A500 port :D 19:02:51 <Prof_Frink> AlexFili: 1) get a computer capable of playing openttf 19:02:56 <ln-> placing another computer on top of C64 and running openttd in it. 19:02:59 <AlexFili> hey ln- turn around for a second, and that glass will be gone, and all thats left is the wrapper 19:03:04 <AlexFili> roflmao ln 19:03:06 <Prof_Frink> AlexFili: 2) Put it atop a C64 19:03:08 <Bjarni> AlexFili: NASA posted that pic on the first of April as "Water ON mars" :P 19:03:11 <Prof_Frink> 3) ??? 19:03:12 <AlexFili> thats like placing a psp in front of my hand when im on my DS 19:03:14 <Prof_Frink> 4) Profi! 19:03:43 <Trenskow> ok ppl... help me out 19:03:48 <AlexFili> what is it tren? 19:03:50 <Trenskow> im a bit wacky on bits :) 19:03:51 <peter1138> open truetype font? 19:03:51 <Trenskow> w->click_state |= (_ng_filter.flags & (1 << 2 | 1 << 3)) << 2; 19:03:54 * Bjarni kicks Trenskow out of the door 19:04:03 <Bjarni> see, I helped him out 19:04:13 <Frostregen> lol 19:04:28 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: yes. 19:04:29 <Trenskow> i only wanna apply bit 2 and 3 from _ng_filter.flags to w->click_state, at 2 pos right 19:04:39 <Bjarni> maybe I should have opened the door first 19:04:51 <Bjarni> now it's scratched :( 19:04:51 <Trenskow> the rest of the bits in click_state should remain 19:05:05 <Trenskow> it's the or 19:05:13 <Trenskow> |= 19:05:16 <peter1138> SB(w->click_state, 2, 2, GB(_ng_filter.flags, 2, 2)) or something 19:05:39 <Trenskow> peter1138, wow... theres a macro 19:05:40 <Trenskow> nice :D 19:06:10 <peter1138> (what you wrote will set bits 4 & 5) 19:06:20 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:24 <AlexFili> >_< 19:06:30 <AlexFili> that code makes me not want to make a port of anything 19:06:32 <Trenskow> peter1138, that is also correct 19:06:33 <AlexFili> let alone a ds port 19:07:34 * Sacro compiles a ds compiler 19:07:46 * hylje compiles a ds compiler compiler 19:08:06 * Prof_Frink compiles a ds 19:08:10 * AlexFili compiles a ds compiler compiler compiler 19:08:15 * lws1984 decompiles #ottd 19:08:27 <Bjarni> !slap lws1984 19:08:28 <jmp_ghli> >Bjarni> Bjarni is burning lws1984's steel leadpipe. Watch those flames! woah! 19:08:34 <Trenskow> // Set n bits starting at bit s in x to d <- uhuh ? :D 19:08:35 * Prof_Frink disassembles #tycoon 19:08:45 <Bjarni> no reverse engineering 19:08:49 <lws1984> too late! 19:08:52 <lws1984> buahahahahahah! 19:09:00 <Bjarni> it's too inefficient... you got the source 19:09:06 * hylje clean room reimplements ottd 19:09:10 <Prof_Frink> !gnireenigne 19:10:10 * peter1138 switches Prof_Frink's endian 19:11:17 <AlexFili> so 19:11:24 <AlexFili> anyone know why openttd development has been slow lately? 19:11:31 <AlexFili> last thing they did was in april 19:12:32 <Belugas> having a REAL life may be among the reasons... 19:12:49 <lws1984> sunspots perhaps 19:13:02 <Sacro> AlexFili: what do you mean slow? 19:13:08 <AlexFili> well 19:13:12 <AlexFili> the last thing they did was in april 16th 19:13:13 <Wolf01> they are doing great things also in these days, but they want to hold them hidden to us 19:13:17 <AlexFili> and that was just a wikipedia translation 19:13:17 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 19:13:17 <Sacro> probably cos the devs just sit in here doing naff all 19:13:31 <Sacro> AlexFili: theres new stuff all the time 19:14:02 <AlexFili> yeah 19:14:10 <Sacro> right now ive just cooked a curry 19:14:13 <AlexFili> but when are they going to release something finished? :p 19:14:36 <Wolf01> when all is bugfixed 19:14:38 <hylje> when the new stuff is stable 19:14:38 <AlexFili> or are they still messing about with electrical rail? 19:15:03 <Zimri> i'm pretty damned happy with what they've done so far :) 19:15:27 <Wolf01> i think that elrail.c should be simplified, i become mad to add transparency to catenary 19:15:27 <Zimri> as long as what is released is good, doesn't matter a bit how long it takes 19:15:37 <AlexFili> i guess so :p 19:16:12 <Sacro> AlexFili: elrails is done AFAIK 19:16:17 *** Star-Lite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:16:22 *** _bitwise [n=chatzill@ipa104.4.tellas.gr] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.73 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 19:16:42 <AlexFili> afaik?> 19:16:54 <Sacro> as far as i know 19:19:52 <valhalla1hiding> that's not much in the case of Sacro 19:19:57 *** valhalla1hiding is now known as valhallasw`hidin 19:20:03 <valhallasw`hidin> grr 19:20:08 *** valhallasw`hidin is now known as valhalla`hiding 19:20:46 <lws1984> lol 19:21:07 <Sacro> valhalla`hiding: you do right to hide 19:21:14 <valhalla`hiding> I know 19:21:30 * Trenskow dont understand bit manipulation 19:21:52 <Trenskow> if i say GB(somevar, 7, 4) does it then get me bit 7-3 or 7-11 ? 19:22:15 <Belugas> 7 to 11 19:22:17 <Trenskow> thx 19:22:20 <Hackykid> 7-10 i think, even 19:22:34 <Hackykid> but 7,8,9 and 10, thats 4 bits 19:22:40 <Hackykid> *bit 19:22:43 <Belugas> oups :) 19:22:47 <Belugas> true 19:24:59 *** StarLite [n=Star@StarLite.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:25:13 <anboni> ok, i rewrote my patch according to some comments on the forum.. any more opinions on this?:) http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/loadingindicators.diff 19:27:51 <Hackykid> is STR_882F_LOADING_UNLOADING still used somewhere? 19:28:05 <anboni> nope 19:28:19 <Hackykid> i think it should be removed from english.txt then 19:28:28 <anboni> that's one loose end, but i didn't wanna axe it from english.txt like that.. makes make barf a lot of errors :) 19:28:38 <Hackykid> hehe 19:29:05 <Hackykid> well, its bound to cause errors, but thats the translators problem hehe :-p 19:29:30 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9E8.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:30:08 <anboni> i'll raise an exception if the patch ever gets included, so that 882F can get removed the proper way :) 19:31:06 <Hackykid> hmm, and some parts of it use spaces instead of tabs 19:32:11 <anboni> yeah, was afraid of that... seems vi has a bit of a mind of its own when it comes to that :) i'll make sure to clean it up before i post it on the forum or wherever :) 19:33:06 <peter1138> anyone have ttdp installed? 19:34:51 <Wolf01> i have it 19:35:54 <peter1138> i'm doing refit costs :D 19:36:03 <peter1138> but i need to compare 19:36:29 <Hackykid> anboni: isnt it possible to do the looping you do for trains for the other vehicle types too, and move that stuff into that general function? 19:37:10 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B35E8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:38:00 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-150-174.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:38:04 <anboni> Hackykid, from what i can tell, there's some subtle differences between the various vehicle types.. roadveh and ships are pretty much the same, since both can only hold one type of cargo. aircraft can hold up to 2 types of cargo, trains pretty much infinetely 19:38:43 <peter1138> just loop, heh 19:38:46 <anboni> i could of course move it to the function, but then i'd need some extra logic there to differentiate between the various vehicle types 19:38:51 <Hackykid> no you dont 19:39:01 <Hackykid> just loop until getnextvehicle returns nil 19:39:10 <Hackykid> should work for ships,rv's and planes too 19:39:16 <Wolf01> ok peter1138, i'm ready 19:39:30 <Hackykid> for ships and rv's it'll return nil the first time 19:39:34 <peter1138> watch out for helicopter rotors (should be empty...) 19:39:58 <Hackykid> planes *should* be a 2 or 3 long chain 19:39:58 <peter1138> Wolf01: i'm testing with the ukrs v3 beta. hmm. 19:40:04 <Hackykid> (i think) 19:40:07 <peter1138> yes 19:40:19 <anboni> i think i tried getnextvehicle on the second type i implemented (train was the first, i think aircraft was the second).. and compiler or linker barfed on that call 19:40:26 <Wolf01> tell me where i can download it (if not the grfcrawler) 19:40:54 <peter1138> http://www.pikkarail.com/ttdp/secret/pb_ukrs.grf 19:41:35 <Hackykid> anboni: well, i think it should work.... 19:41:56 <peter1138> use v = v->next 19:42:10 <peter1138> getnextvehicle will skip articulated train parts, which is not what you want 19:42:15 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9E8.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 19:42:25 <anboni> oooh 19:42:36 <Hackykid> heh, can the articulated parts carry cargo? uhoh 19:42:47 <peter1138> yes 19:42:48 <Hackykid> how interesting :-) 19:42:49 <ln-> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=36.15139,-5.34914&spn=0.013445,0.02738&t=h&om=1 19:42:57 <anboni> THAT might be the thing then... I just tried GetNextVehicle briefly on aircraft: 19:42:59 <anboni> aircraft_gui.c:(.text+0x11a1): undefined reference to `GetNextVehicle' 19:43:07 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-217-54.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:43:14 <Wolf01> ok, downloaded and started the game 19:43:17 <peter1138> only the cargo in the first part is shown currently 19:43:22 <AlexFili> hey again folks 19:43:30 <AlexFili> i was just setting up my wireless router 19:43:41 <AlexFili> port 3979 TCP right? 19:43:42 <anboni> tbh, i just copied/pasted a bunch of code from the Cargo Details window, which had the GetNextVehicle thingy :) 19:43:45 <AlexFili> not UDP? 19:44:00 <anboni> i guess i'll rewrite it for v=v->next; :) 19:44:06 <peter1138> Wolf01: can you build 1 0-6-0 pannier, and 1 covered carriage truck please? 19:44:19 <peter1138> (and tell me how much each costs) 19:44:43 <Wolf01> ok 19:44:46 <Wolf01> here it comes 19:45:03 <Wolf01> 00 for goods or passengers 19:45:27 <anboni> peter1138, thanks for that one, that's looking promising:) 19:46:02 <peter1138> Wolf01: hmm, and the original purchase cost for the wagon? 19:46:25 <Wolf01> .250 19:46:41 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@AC8F1DAF.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:46:50 <peter1138> hmmmmmm 19:46:54 <peter1138> i've got it right then 19:47:04 <peter1138> what difficulty is that? 19:47:38 <peter1138> my purchase cost is ~ 00, refit cost is ~ 0 19:47:50 <Hackykid> anboni: if i was you, i would put some comments explaining the use if v=v->next instead if getnextvehicle 19:47:52 <peter1138> the ratio between them is about the same, which is the main thing 19:48:08 <anboni> Hackykid, yeah, i'll go through it and toss some comments around :) 19:48:22 <Hackykid> s/if/of/g 19:48:24 <Wolf01> was average difficulty 19:48:30 <peter1138> Wolf01: ok, this is on easy, heh 19:48:38 <Hackykid> hmm, well, not all :-p 19:48:52 <peter1138> thanks Wolf01 19:49:03 <peter1138> oh, while you're at it 19:49:09 <peter1138> the mineral wagon refits for free, right? 19:49:36 <AlexFili> can anyone go on openttd and test my server? 19:49:43 <Wolf01> in easy the cost is 36 òO 19:50:11 <Wolf01> yes, the refit cost for mineral wagon is free 19:51:10 *** Frostrain [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-171-066.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:51:25 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:51:28 *** Frostrain is now known as Frostregen_ 19:51:33 <Sacro> grr, having fun trying to build devkitNDS 19:51:41 <peter1138> hmm, hard to see when that's been refitted o_O 19:51:51 <AlexFili> YAY 19:51:54 <AlexFili> i got my port working :D 19:52:00 <Sacro> AlexFili: port of what to where? 19:52:03 <AlexFili> i think... can someone go on my server and confirm it please? 19:52:07 <AlexFili> port 3979, for openttd 19:52:13 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3CFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Client exiting"] 19:52:14 <Sacro> version? 19:52:22 <AlexFili> latest stable 19:52:25 <AlexFili> 0.4.7 19:53:32 <Hackykid> 3979? 19:53:40 <AlexFili> yeah, thats the port that openttd uses 19:53:53 <Hackykid> aah, that kind of port :-) 19:53:56 <AlexFili> yeah :p 19:53:57 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3CFAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:58 <Hackykid> duh 19:54:17 <Wolf01> uhm, is correct that the tanker wagon can be refitted to livestock? 19:54:20 <AlexFili> can anyone come to my server and check my port is working please? 19:54:32 <Wolf01> what part of livestock it carry? 19:54:34 <AlexFili> Wolf01... are you serious?! 19:54:37 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 19:54:43 <Hackykid> Wolf01: hmm, livestock(beer) maybe? 19:54:50 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:54:54 <Hackykid> still sounds weird to me 19:54:54 <AlexFili> livestock = animals 19:55:03 <Hackykid> but think i've seen that in dbsetxl 19:55:09 <peter1138> it's milk 19:55:12 <Wolf01> is ukrs 19:55:20 <AlexFili> hmmmm 19:55:20 <peter1138> livestock -> milk :) 19:55:22 <AlexFili> no its not 19:55:24 <AlexFili> thats totally wrong 19:55:31 <AlexFili> livestock means animals 19:55:32 <Wolf01> oh, it's milk, i was thinking about something else 19:55:34 <AlexFili> not milk 19:55:37 <Hackykid> yeah, kindof 19:55:42 <AlexFili> milk would be some kind of produce, like eggs... 19:55:48 <AlexFili> livestock is definately animals 19:55:52 <Hackykid> guess the logic behind it is that its produced by a farm 19:55:52 <AlexFili> i'll find the dictionary 19:56:02 <Hackykid> the 19:56:03 <hylje> livestock tanker 19:56:04 <hylje> poor sheep 19:56:12 <peter1138> sheep's milk! 19:56:16 <Hackykid> the ""livestock" part is just inflexibility of the game 19:56:18 <AlexFili> ive·stock Audio pronunciation of "livestock" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lvstk) 19:56:18 <AlexFili> n. 19:56:18 <AlexFili> Domestic animals, such as cattle or horses, raised for home use or for profit, especially on a farm. 19:56:27 <AlexFili> there... pwned lol 19:56:27 <Wolf01> sheep's mix :O 19:56:38 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:56:40 <AlexFili> livestock 19:56:41 <AlexFili> n : not used technically; any animals kept for use or profit 19:56:54 <AlexFili> "get the plates, cos you just got served!" :p 19:57:14 <peter1138> AlexFili... shut up 19:57:24 <AlexFili> only if you go on openttd and check if my port is working 19:57:26 <peter1138> it's milk, that's all there is to it 19:57:28 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-136-131.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:57:34 <AlexFili> quite clearly, it isnt 19:57:48 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:57:54 <AlexFili> how many times do you see a train with oil trucks going to a farm? 19:58:04 <peter1138> it's milk tankers 19:58:04 <Sacro> you'd be surprised... 19:58:14 <AlexFili> we're talking about oil here 19:58:18 <AlexFili> not milk, not water, oil 19:58:29 <Sacro> AlexFili: Rapeseed oil 19:58:33 <Sacro> Vegetable Oil 19:58:36 <AlexFili> you'd need a seperate industry/cargo for that 19:58:39 <Sacro> get a lot of that round here 19:59:17 <hylje> :o 19:59:18 <AlexFili> hey sacro, can you come to my server please? 19:59:20 <hylje> sheep tanker 19:59:20 <hylje> s 19:59:26 <Sacro> AlexFili: called? 19:59:30 <AlexFili> 'test' 19:59:39 <Sacro> hmm ill bounce cos i have newgrfs 20:00:02 <Sacro> and im just doing libnds 20:00:03 <Hackykid> hmm, maybe the "livestock (beer)" thingy is a bug.... 20:00:13 <hylje> : 20:00:14 <hylje> o 20:00:27 <Wolf01> i think that is grain(beer) 20:00:40 <AlexFili> strange, i dont see it on the openttd server list 20:00:47 <Wolf01> it's hard to obtain beer from an animal 20:01:10 <Wolf01> but not so hard to obtain milk from vegetables 20:01:12 <AlexFili> oh oops 20:01:20 <AlexFili> sorry Sacro it was not on 'internet (advertise) 20:01:27 <Wolf01> there's something strange :/ 20:01:43 <Sacro> AlexFili: is ok, im setting up to do a NDS port 20:02:03 <Hackykid> its the 80km/h goods van 20:02:31 <peter1138> what's showing it with (beer) ? 20:02:34 <Hackykid> can be refitted to: "livestock(packaged), livestock(beer), Goods(packaged), Goods(beer)" 20:03:07 <Hackykid> the 100km/h version can only do the livestock(packaged) and the goods(packaged) 20:03:15 <AlexFili> seriously? :s 20:03:23 <AlexFili> have you even done any NDS coding at all? 20:03:23 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:03:38 <Sacro> AlexFili: a few tutorials 20:03:41 <AlexFili> :o 20:03:43 <Hackykid> whats NDS anyway? 20:03:49 <Sacro> Hackykid: Nintendo DS 20:03:56 <Hackykid> hehe, duh 20:04:06 <AlexFili> ok thats weird... 20:04:08 <Sacro> wouldnt mind a Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii port when that comes out 20:04:14 <AlexFili> its on internet (advertise) bit i still cant see it 20:04:31 <Hackykid> i;m not really into consoles heh 20:05:23 <AlexFili> sacro, if wii had a ps1 emulator, we could just play TTPS1 20:05:28 <Hackykid> just hoping the ps2 will get cheap so i can finally play FF-X 20:05:28 <AlexFili> in full 3d! lol 20:05:35 <Hackykid> or a ps2 emulator that works :-) 20:05:36 <Sacro> well it'd be nice to play it on something other than this craptop 20:05:50 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp83-237-234-183.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:06:39 <AlexFili> hey guys, any reason why a server wouldnt appear on the main server list on openttd? 20:06:53 <AlexFili> the port is open, and im using internet (advertise)... what else could be wrong? 20:06:55 <Wolf01> router 20:06:58 <Hackykid> cause its not responding to incoming udp packets 20:07:06 <AlexFili> it has to be UDP as well? 20:07:09 <AlexFili> TCP/UDP 20:07:09 <Hackykid> yeah 20:07:09 <AlexFili> ? 20:07:12 <AlexFili> oh darn 20:07:15 <AlexFili> i just put TCP >_< 20:07:21 <Hackykid> the advertising part uses UDP 20:07:28 <AlexFili> no wonder it wasnt working lol 20:07:28 <Sacro> SYN :D 20:07:35 <AlexFili> (hits himself on the head with a pan) 20:09:02 <AlexFili> WOOOOT i got it working! :D 20:09:08 <AlexFili> can someone join it and test it for me? 20:09:11 <lws1984> your brain? :p 20:09:17 <AlexFili> no, the port settings 20:09:22 * Sacro grabs the pan and hits AlexFili with it 20:09:33 * AlexFili throws the pan at Sacro 20:09:40 <Sacro> ow, that works 20:09:50 <Hackykid> is it 4.7? 20:09:59 <AlexFili> yeah 20:10:21 <AlexFili> its called "TEST PLEASE JOIN" 20:10:22 <Sacro> 0.4.7 :P 20:10:58 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:11:59 <Wolf01> try again 20:12:10 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [] 20:12:10 <Wolf01> i don't see it on the list 20:12:21 <AlexFili> its definately there 20:12:25 <AlexFili> i can see it on the main server list site 20:12:28 <AlexFili> http://www.openttd.org/servers.php?reverse_order=name 20:12:28 <Wolf01> ok there is now 20:12:41 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #openttd 20:13:15 <AlexFili> woot it works 20:13:17 <AlexFili> thanks peeps 20:13:50 <Wolf01> grep: invalid option -- o 20:13:50 <Wolf01> how i correct this error on msys? 20:13:52 <Hackykid> hmm, downloading map 20:13:57 <CIA-14> tron * r5317 /trunk/ (npf.c road_cmd.c road_map.h): s/RGT_/ROADSIDE_/ and some minor changes 20:14:02 <Hackykid> not going too fast heh :-p 20:14:06 <AlexFili> thats odd 20:14:11 <AlexFili> its only a 64x64 map 20:14:14 <AlexFili> are you downloading something? lol 20:14:21 <Hackykid> doesnt seem so 20:14:27 <Hackykid> 0/10kbytes 20:14:28 <AlexFili> strange... oh well 20:14:40 <AlexFili> "hakky kid has left the game" 20:14:43 <anboni> http://www.xs4all.nl/~aphb/loadingindicators.diff anymore suggestions on this?:) 20:14:45 <AlexFili> oh well, at least the connection works 20:14:59 <Hackykid> yeah, might be on my end 20:16:07 <AlexFili> anyone else got a good resolution like mine? I play with 1152x864 :p 20:16:37 <Sacro> i used to have 1600x1200 20:16:41 <AlexFili> :o nice 20:16:49 <Hackykid> speaking of resolution... 20:16:56 <AlexFili> i can do that, but it means moving my mouse to the edges of the screen to see everything 20:17:01 <Belugas> I have a good resolution : stop smoking. So far so good :) 20:17:02 <Hackykid> my ottd refuses to go fullscreen, anyonw got any idea why? 20:17:08 <Sacro> Hackykid: OS? 20:17:11 <AlexFili> good question... 20:17:12 <Hackykid> win XP 20:17:20 <AlexFili> monitor? graphics card? program error? 20:17:20 <Sacro> hmm, tried alt+enter? 20:17:28 <Sacro> there are no program errors :P 20:17:35 <Hackykid> yeah 20:17:35 <AlexFili> YUCK 20:17:41 <AlexFili> alt+enter makes my openttd look horrid 20:17:43 <Hackykid> alt enter and the button in game options do nothing 20:17:51 <AlexFili> really pixelated, as if that 640x480 was stretched across the screen 20:18:14 *** AlexFili [n=AlexFili@host86-136-217-54.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:18:16 <Hackykid> oh heh 20:18:22 <peter1138> can i ban him? 20:18:23 <Hackykid> now i think i got it fixed 20:18:38 <Sacro> peter1138: why lol 20:18:56 <Hackykid> the fullscreen resolution prolly wasnt valid in my monitor 20:20:00 <Hackykid> resolution = 1400,981 20:20:01 <Hackykid> hehe 20:20:34 <Sacro> :| 20:20:39 <Sacro> that'll surely confuse it 20:20:57 <Hackykid> that prolly exacly ottd window maximized 20:21:08 <Trenskow> just curious... should the language american (in game) be called English (US) ? 20:21:16 <Trenskow> when english is english (uk) 20:21:25 <Hackykid> too bad fullscreen wont find a working resolution and pcik that 20:21:29 <Sacro> Trenskow: nope, should just be English, and American 20:21:39 <Trenskow> Sacro, ok :) 20:21:44 <Hackykid> i mean, what does it matter how big my window was before fullscreen? 20:21:48 * Sacro hates "International English" 20:21:53 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: or English and not-english 20:22:17 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: hehe, good idea, though most of the devs come under "not-english" 20:22:19 * Prof_Frink thinks someone should write a canadian translation eh? 20:22:35 <Sacro> hehehe 20:22:39 <hylje> eh! 20:22:50 <Sacro> Yorkshire - T'OpenTTD 20:24:22 <Born_Acorn> We need a Cockney Rhyming Slang translation. 20:24:34 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: now that'd be interesting 20:24:38 <peter1138> no we don't 20:24:58 <hylje> we need a h4x0r translation 20:24:59 <hylje> imho 20:25:07 <Born_Acorn> Get on the John Wayne 20:25:08 <Prof_Frink> hylje: and Klingon 20:25:11 <Hackykid> we dont really need such things 20:25:13 <hylje> yes 20:25:16 <hylje> and elmer fudd 20:25:19 <Hackykid> its be funny to look at for 10 mins 20:25:21 <Hackykid> then it gets old 20:25:22 <Prof_Frink> Swedish chef? 20:25:36 <Born_Acorn> We need Baa Lambs in OpenTTD. 20:25:37 <Prof_Frink> would be easy to write 20:27:57 <Sacro> http://quis.qub.ac.uk/motor/images/gallery/Randoms/Mini%20Cooper%20Monster%20Truck.jpg 20:28:03 <Sacro> hehe, Baa lambs 20:28:05 <Sacro> and moo cows 20:29:12 <lws1984> fish go moo! 20:29:50 <Born_Acorn> peter1138 code newsounds! 20:29:55 <Born_Acorn> +s 20:30:03 <Born_Acorn> *peter1138s 20:34:09 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2D73C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:17 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 20:34:38 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 20:35:35 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:36:35 <Belugas_Gone> 'Night all 20:36:35 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:37:18 <MeusH> bye 20:37:20 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit ["On snow, everyone can follow your traces"] 20:37:57 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@cpc1-shep3-0-0-cust920.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:39:11 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 20:39:49 *** Qball is now known as God 20:40:57 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:44:46 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit ["I'll be back!"] 20:45:56 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181090156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 20:45:57 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 20:48:44 *** God is now known as Sarine 20:50:45 <MeusH> DarkSSH: ping 20:52:29 *** Angst [n=Angst@p549476C3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 20:53:44 <peter1138> hmm 20:54:44 * MeusH 's legs were sucked by the floor 20:54:46 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Goodbye"] 20:54:47 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit ["Odletam do paralelniho vesmiru..."] 20:57:13 <anboni> peter1138, could use some advice :) 20:58:37 <anboni> I've added a SetWindowDirty(w); to the loop, but that kinda brings a pretty decent pc to its knees 20:59:16 <glx> the loop is called often? 20:59:36 <anboni> yeah, it's the loop that updates the vehicle window 21:00:19 <glx> the update is wrong without SetWindowDirty(). 21:00:23 <glx> ? 21:00:26 <anboni> yeah 21:00:46 <anboni> noticed that last night on one pc, but didn't really pay much attention to it when it was fine on the other 21:00:51 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:01:11 <anboni> but the first pc only had the 1 train, the other pc was my normal savegame with ~200 trains by now 21:02:03 <anboni> what i still dont get though, is why there isn't a SetWindowDirty() for the speed display 21:02:17 <anboni> Tron suggested there is, but if so, i cant seem to find it 21:04:51 <peter1138> you added SetWindowDirty to what loop? 21:05:13 <anboni> to the case WE_PAINT of TrainViewWndProc 21:05:18 <peter1138> ... 21:05:24 <glx> never do that :) 21:05:27 <peter1138> no 21:05:31 <anboni> obviously :) 21:05:35 <peter1138> WE_PAINT means it's already drawing... 21:05:46 <anboni> hmm 21:06:11 <anboni> but then how come updates weren't being done properly? 21:06:32 <peter1138> you need to call SetWindowDirty() at the place where it adds the cargo 21:06:57 <peter1138> (i think) 21:07:07 <anboni> hmm.. i guess that makes sense 21:07:26 <Tron> i also pointed you at vehicle_speed 21:07:36 <Tron> there you could see how it's done 21:07:43 <anboni> so basically the cargo loading function(s) need to SetWindowDirty() 21:08:22 <peter1138> they already do for some windows 21:08:30 <peter1138> so shouldn't be hard to find the right place 21:09:19 <anboni> Tron, are you talking about InvalidateWindowWidget()? 21:09:38 <Tron> also 21:09:55 <anboni> guess i would've missed that if i were looking for SetWindowDirty() :) 21:10:23 <Tron> and you could've seen that it's called where the speed is changed 21:11:57 <glx> economy.c:1468: 21:11:58 <glx> InvalidateWindow(WC_VEHICLE_DETAILS, v->index); 21:11:58 <glx> + InvalidateWindow(WC_VEHICLE_VIEW, v->index); 21:11:58 <glx> I think it should work 21:12:23 <glx> didn't test tough 21:13:12 <anboni> worth a shot:) 21:14:50 <glx> InvalidateWindowWidget(WC_VEHICLE_VIEW, v->index, STATUS_BAR); <-- may be better 21:16:33 <anboni> looks like the first one is already working (at least for updating the statusbar, need to check cpu usage on other pc) 21:17:26 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/refitcost2.diff < grf specified refit costs \o/ 21:17:50 <peter1138> (however, i don't know if the values are right for rvs, ships and aircraft) 21:18:17 <peter1138> (and the standard dmus & ic125 are now 4 * more expensive to refit o_O) 21:18:46 <anboni> glx, you rock, that works like a charm :) 21:19:04 <glx> I just did a quick search in the code 21:19:21 <peter1138> alas poor yorick, sleepage time 21:19:32 <glx> gn peter1138 :) 21:19:37 <anboni> night peter1138 21:19:39 <hylje> baa 21:20:39 <anboni> yeah, i guess once i get a bit more familiar with the code, it'll all get a bit easier to figure things like this out:) 21:22:48 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 21:23:37 <Sacro> peter1138: committage! 21:30:09 <anboni> http://ivory.xs4all.nl/anboni/loadingindicators.diff 21:30:32 <anboni> any more suggestions to improve this patch (or to learn)? :) 21:31:54 <Trenskow> apropos loading... i have a suggestion 21:31:59 <Trenskow> 3 types of full load 21:32:06 <Trenskow> full load (all cargo) 21:32:10 <Trenskow> full load (any cargo) 21:32:19 <Trenskow> go if any cargo 21:32:26 <hylje> and no cargo? :g 21:32:34 <anboni> Trenskow, you might be interested in reading http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=12193 :) 21:32:45 <Trenskow> so if station is empty, the train stays, but if not, it loads what there is and go 21:33:27 <Trenskow> ahh :) 21:38:05 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:38:58 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:45 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:42:59 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B83A7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:43:33 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:43:59 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 21:57:34 <Frostregen> hmm, what is the difference between _local_player and _current_player? 21:57:38 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@81.183.161.16] has quit [] 21:59:26 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B846D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:59:49 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B846D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:01:36 <Hackykid> local_player is the local player and current_players is the current one..... 22:02:31 <Hackykid> as in local_player is the player that the local client controls 22:03:16 <Hackykid> current_player is the player for which the current calculations/whatever are being done current_player 22:03:35 <Hackykid> some function use current_player to know for which player to do something 22:05:48 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.2/2006051612]"] 22:07:02 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 22:08:31 <Frostregen> hm 22:10:25 <Frostregen> I'll stick to _current_player for tile ownership checks 22:10:56 <Frostregen> At least it is used in CheckTileOwnership ;) 22:11:54 <SchAmane> i am [done] 22:17:04 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DCF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:18:22 *** xahodo [n=xander@xahodo.demon.nl] has quit [] 22:20:44 <Frostregen> night 22:22:21 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 22:34:11 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.143.204] has joined #openttd 22:38:07 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B35E8E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 22:39:06 *** Sarine is now known as jasts 22:41:29 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 22:41:39 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:42:21 *** Mucht [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 22:42:45 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:46:56 *** Hackykid [n=Hackykid@ip5655e868.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:54:57 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-550.wfd84a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 23:03:38 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x53588ada.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:06:57 *** Ammler [n=irc@182.158.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:12:47 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:13:54 *** Zimri [i=Zimri@cpc1-ely13-0-0-cust1001.cdif.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 23:14:09 *** TheBlasphemer [n=fw@hardijzer.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 23:14:29 <TheBlasphemer> Hey, does anyone have experience compiling OpenTTD with Visual Studio 8 ? 23:16:29 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host7-229.pool875.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 23:18:02 <Trenskow> who changed the makefile .... thx thx thx :D 23:18:18 <TheBlasphemer> ? 23:18:20 <Sacro> lol 23:18:23 <Sacro> hey TheBlasphemer 23:18:27 <Sacro> nice to see new people 23:18:44 <TheBlasphemer> Hah, nice to see others too ;) 23:19:12 <Sacro> now, i think theres a vsproject8 file or something 23:19:17 <TheBlasphemer> Yeah, I found that 23:19:27 <TheBlasphemer> but after putting in the zlib files and such, it starts spitting out tons of errors 23:19:48 <TheBlasphemer> And I can't find what on earth is causing those errors :S 23:19:59 <Sacro> hmm, pastebin the errors :) 23:20:59 <Trenskow> my network filtering patch is nearing its completion :D 23:21:08 <Trenskow> only thing left is the flags in openttd.grf :S 23:21:12 <Trenskow> hack of a work :S 23:21:54 <TheBlasphemer> http://pastebin.com/719741 23:22:10 <TheBlasphemer> Most errors don't make sense to me at all :S 23:22:59 <Sacro> hmm, think my net is dying 23:23:13 <Trenskow> Sacro, i can't get it too 23:23:19 <Trenskow> there it was 23:23:34 <Sacro> :| 23:23:40 <Sacro> thats a bucketload of errors 23:23:57 <TheBlasphemer> I know ;) 23:24:26 <Sacro> err, use a different compiler :P 23:24:33 <TheBlasphemer> easier said than done :P 23:25:07 <Sacro> nah it aint 23:25:08 <TheBlasphemer> Think someone could do me a favour and compile me a version with MAX_SCREEN_WIDTH set to 3200 ;)? 23:25:30 <Trenskow> os x here :S 23:26:22 <TheBlasphemer> The default version doesn't like me spanning it over my 2 screens ;) 23:26:50 <glx> TheBlasphemer: it seems you have a problem with 2 headers 23:27:06 <Trenskow> what is the logical explanation for a MAX_SCREEN_WIDTH constant in the first place ? 23:27:22 <Sacro> Trenskow: oi :P 23:27:30 <Trenskow> oi? 23:27:45 <Sacro> [00:28:09] Trenskow did a CTCP VERSION to you 23:27:48 <TheBlasphemer> Transkow: dunno, but I see that after that width nothing is painted anymore, leaving me with a full left-screen and just a tiny piece of my right one :P 23:27:54 <Trenskow> Sacro, sorry :D 23:28:00 <Sacro> glx: yeah, i reckon so 23:28:09 <TheBlasphemer> glx: I have all the default headers intact, any idea what could be wrong ? 23:28:32 <Sacro> somehow, somewhere, a header is being included twice 23:29:04 <TheBlasphemer> Sacro: wouldn't that generate errors saying xxx is already defined, instead of syntax errors ? 23:29:29 <Sacro> hmm, im not sure, ive never dealt with VC much 23:29:34 <Sacro> only VB 23:29:50 <Trenskow> hehe vb... 23:29:53 <Trenskow> crazy shit :D 23:30:08 <glx> vb is fun in excel :) 23:30:28 <Trenskow> yea, but not outside :D 23:30:37 <Sacro> glx: yeah, i love VBA, can do some much stupid stuff 23:30:41 <Trenskow> damn i've done my share of vb programming in my life :) 23:30:55 <TheBlasphemer> JavaScript > VBA > *, yet VB < * :P 23:31:17 <Trenskow> tried doing some code in it a cpl years back... ended every sentence with ; 23:34:05 <Sacro> hehe :) 23:35:53 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-83-100-211-122.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:36:14 <TheBlasphemer> Argh, I'll try a Dev-Cpp build 23:39:04 *** Sacro [n=Sacro@adsl-213-249-186-120.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:40:26 <TheBlasphemer> Hmmmz, Dev-Cpp doesn't like me either, no project file for that, and too lazy to make one 23:40:35 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 23:40:56 <glx> TheBlasphemer: there's already a makefil 23:40:59 <glx> +e 23:41:32 <TheBlasphemer> Erm, I wouldn't have a clue on how to use that :( 23:42:29 <glx> if mingw is in your path, just open a cmd.exe, go into openttd_source dir, type make 23:42:39 <Sacro> TheBlasphemer: import the VS6 one... actually no, cos vs6 was dropped 23:42:56 <Sacro> TheBlasphemer: which version are you compiling? 23:43:54 <TheBlasphemer> HEAD 23:44:14 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 23:46:09 <TheBlasphemer> Oh 23:46:13 <TheBlasphemer> I think I found it 23:47:34 <TheBlasphemer> Damnit :P 23:47:43 <TheBlasphemer> I extracted the useful.zip, with zlib and libpng, in the root 23:47:46 <TheBlasphemer> and added ./ as include dir 23:48:09 <TheBlasphemer> Which I think resulted in <string.h> pointing to the openttd one where it should've been pointing to the SDK one 23:48:26 <glx> hehe 23:49:28 <TheBlasphemer> Alright, now I need directmusic things 23:49:34 <TheBlasphemer> Why isn't that packed with the Platform SDK :P? 23:49:44 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-210-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 23:49:48 * [Shaman] whistles 23:50:13 <Sacro> [Shaman]: OI 23:50:18 <glx> openttd can play music without directmusic 23:50:22 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [i=johekr@p54B77E4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:50:39 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:50:40 *** Trippledence__ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:51:42 <[Shaman]> Sacro: xD 23:52:22 <Sacro> :P 23:52:49 <[Shaman]> could just as well have done CTCP FINGER 23:53:04 <Sacro> dont u dare finger me 23:53:19 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176112150.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 23:53:56 <[Shaman]> :P 23:54:12 <Sacro> all done/ 23:54:37 <Sacro> ? 23:55:42 <Trenskow> me ? 23:56:08 <Sacro> Trenskow, [Shaman]. glx and lws1984 :P 23:56:17 <[Shaman]> heh 23:56:20 <Trenskow> :) 23:56:28 <[Shaman]> I shall finger glx then. 23:56:48 <glx> [01:56:37] Requête CTCP FINGER venant de [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] (FINGER), répondue 23:56:55 <[Shaman]> O_O 23:57:01 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:57:03 <[Shaman]> french? 23:57:07 <glx> yes 23:57:15 <[Shaman]> explains :P 23:57:22 <Sacro> .nl?no it doesnt 23:57:40 <[Shaman]> Sacro: Yar, i'm dutch, sue me :P 23:57:52 * Sacro finds his anti-dutch laywer 23:58:24 <Trenskow> actually i am done with the filter patch, but i need to add all flags to openttd.gfx 23:58:30 <Trenskow> but i'm too tired to do that now 23:59:05 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 23:59:06 <TheBlasphemer> hmmm 23:59:06 <Trenskow> have to rearrange openttd.gfx to make it work 23:59:10 <TheBlasphemer> Shit 23:59:19 <TheBlasphemer> this compiled version I have now is norev00 23:59:22 <TheBlasphemer> and has elrails 23:59:33 <[Shaman]> ye 23:59:37 <TheBlasphemer> which, I am afraid, is not compatible with the current newest version :S 23:59:38 <[Shaman]> elrails is in trunk, innit? 23:59:43 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:44 <Trenskow> TheBlasphemer, have you downloaded the nightly / trunk ? 23:59:51 <TheBlasphemer> trunk :S 23:59:58 <[Shaman]> edit network.h and add the revision yourself?