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00:00:35 *** emuzesto [n=emuzesto@171.80-203-119.nextgentel.com] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!"] 00:01:41 <CIA-3> richk * r5417 /branches/MiniIN/ (8 files in 2 dirs): 00:01:41 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [AdvancedAutoreplace]: Added Advanced Autoreplace patch. 00:01:41 <CIA-3> Many thanks to Haukinger for MiniIN version. 00:03:34 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-200-140.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 00:04:41 <Ihmemies> advanced autoreplace? :o 00:05:04 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176096238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 00:06:16 <RichK67> yeah, it lets you replace a rail train with a mono, or maglev, but that train cannot then leave the depot until the depot and track is converted to its required type 00:07:01 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has quit [] 00:07:07 <RichK67> works very nicely with the "send all to depot" function 00:07:48 <CIA-3> belugas * r5418 /branches/newgrf_lab/ (29 files in 6 dirs): [newgrf_lab] Synch with trunk up to 5417 00:08:30 <Belugas_Gone> well... r5417 just been the last commit... nothng to do with trunk in this case o_O 00:08:50 <Ihmemies> ooh 00:08:51 <Ihmemies> hax 00:08:56 <Ihmemies> that makes converting rails a bliss :P 00:09:07 <Ihmemies> uh-uh. 00:09:24 <RichK67> err... except he still needs to create the auto-replace wagons side ... 00:09:38 <Ihmemies> ... so... it replaces only engines? 00:10:19 <RichK67> yeah, but rest should be easy (ish) 00:10:48 <Ihmemies> good 00:11:18 *** _Red is now known as Red 00:15:32 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 00:16:37 <CIA-3> richk * r5419 /branches/MiniIN/ (13 files in 4 dirs): 00:16:37 <CIA-3> [MiniIN]: [SignalGUI]: Added Signal GUI patch. 00:16:37 <CIA-3> Many thanks to Hazelrah for MiniIN version. 00:18:46 <UnderBuilder> :D signal gui is in miniIN :D 00:19:34 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.13] has quit [" Like VS.net's GUI? Then try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-"] 00:21:55 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176123165.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:24:12 <Ihmemies> signal gui? :o 00:28:13 <CIA-3> richk * r5420 /branches/MiniIN/ (8 files in 3 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk, r5338:5360 00:29:22 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 00:38:46 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 00:39:28 <CIA-3> richk * r5421 /branches/MiniIN/ (11 files in 3 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk, r5360:5370 00:49:39 *** pv2b [n=pvz@c80-216-45-134.cm-upc.chello.se] has quit ["brb"] 01:06:30 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176096238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]"] 01:39:02 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:39:41 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 01:47:28 *** trogdorx [i=eirik@tor/session/external/x-3fd8991a9a7491c3] has joined #openttd 01:47:34 <trogdorx> how can i run linux in daemon mode? 01:47:37 <trogdorx> is it even possible? 01:48:21 <glx> do you mean dedicated server? 01:48:28 <trogdorx> yea 01:48:31 <trogdorx> but in daemon mode 01:48:38 <trogdorx> without the console window open 01:48:43 <trogdorx> i dont have access to a gui 01:48:53 <glx> check openttd -h 01:48:55 <trogdorx> and i dont want to leave the ssh window open 01:49:37 <trogdorx> -f = Fork into the background (dedicated only) 01:49:38 <trogdorx> thanks 01:50:34 <trogdorx> hey works wonders 01:50:35 <trogdorx> thanks! :) 01:50:51 <CIA-3> richk * r5422 /branches/MiniIN/ (99 files in 13 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk, r5370:5415 01:50:51 <glx> it was easy :) 01:51:24 <trogdorx> [root@server3 openttd]# ./openttd -D -f 01:51:24 <trogdorx> Loading dedicated server... 01:51:24 <trogdorx> - Forked to background with pid 31606 02:04:48 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 02:08:46 <RichK67> night all 02:09:00 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 02:21:29 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:26:04 *** trogdorx [i=eirik@tor/session/external/x-3fd8991a9a7491c3] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:26:28 *** trogdorx [i=eirik@tor/session/external/x-8ae3e081d3d72499] has joined #openttd 02:31:06 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-210-242.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 02:37:48 <CIA-3> belugas * r5423 /branches/newgrf_lab/ (currency.c currency.h newgrf.c): 02:37:48 <CIA-3> [newgrf_lab] Adding writability and newgrf-load to _currency_string_list. 02:37:48 <CIA-3> _currency_string_list and _currency_spec are now initialized and filled by ResetCurrencies, 02:37:48 <CIA-3> called from newgrf.c 02:37:48 <CIA-3> The const arrays are now hidden inside currency.c 02:37:49 <CIA-3> This concludes the loading part of "newcurrencies" 02:38:24 <Belugas> Good RRRRRR zzzzzzzzzzzz 02:49:40 *** trogdorx [i=eirik@tor/session/external/x-8ae3e081d3d72499] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:54:22 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 03:01:29 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498DC32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:18:32 *** DJFire [n=DJFire@70.177.23.173] has joined #openttd 03:20:20 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498DD90.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:28:20 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:40:13 *** DJFire [n=DJFire@70.177.23.173] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:57:09 *** argnl [i=argonel@konversation/developer/argonel] has quit ["fixme"] 03:58:31 *** Zr40_ [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 03:58:32 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:59:39 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has quit ["Disconnecting from stoned server."] 04:00:00 *** wolf^ [i=wolf@pld-linux/wolf] has joined #openttd 04:00:37 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit ["Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)"] 04:08:33 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:15:26 *** argonel [i=argonel@konversation/developer/argonel] has joined #openttd 05:20:40 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:20:52 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 05:26:20 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 05:47:55 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:54:24 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5424 /branches/0.4/docs/openttd.6: - Correct typo in the date of the man file 05:55:30 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5425 /trunk/docs/openttd.6: - Forword-port r5424 from the 0.4 branch to trunk 06:02:43 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Connection error: Chuck Norris visting ISP"] 06:05:42 <peter1138> hmm 06:05:47 <peter1138> need an RC2 now ;p 06:06:31 <peter1138> not that there's any solid evidence of an RC1 actually existing 06:22:49 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:35:03 *** The-Moon [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:52 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 06:53:06 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387C62B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:56:04 <guru3> so what's new on 0.4.8? 06:57:42 <peter1138> rtfl? 06:57:56 <guru3> i just woke up & it's in the topic 06:58:07 <guru3> so i don't know of any pre-existing gag 06:58:31 <peter1138> == read the friendly changelog 06:58:50 <peter1138> there are 56 lines of it 06:58:54 <peter1138> for 0.4.8 06:59:07 <guru3> and you just couldn't say in like 2 lines something that would be comprehensive? 06:59:13 <guru3> *can't just 06:59:19 <peter1138> oh 06:59:20 <peter1138> ok 06:59:22 <peter1138> how about 06:59:26 <peter1138> "bug fixes" 06:59:44 <guru3> that's good 06:59:52 <guru3> much easier than telling me to read the changelog :) 07:00:11 <peter1138> well what the fuck else would a bug fix release contain? 07:00:17 <guru3> how do i know 07:00:21 <guru3> i'm not a developer of ottd 07:00:39 <peter1138> you can know by reading the changelog 07:00:42 <peter1138> it's not hard 07:00:46 <guru3> well 07:00:46 <guru3> it is 07:00:52 <guru3> since it's not in the sites download section 07:00:55 <guru3> where it promises to be 07:01:01 <guru3> it being 0.4.8-rc1 07:01:14 <peter1138> :D 07:12:55 <peter1138> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/branches/0.4/changelog.txt?format=raw 07:19:27 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5426 /trunk/ (Makefile configure): 07:19:27 <CIA-3> - Makefile: Make the configure script work properly for setting target compilers; Set CC_TARGET / CXX_TARGET 07:19:27 <CIA-3> up the same way as CC_HOST / CXX_HOST, and add or fix their options within the configure script. In the 07:19:27 <CIA-3> Makefile, instead of overriding CC / CXX with the target compilers if they are set, set the target compilers 07:19:27 <CIA-3> with the default compilers if none are set (bit of a mouthful), and use the target compilers explicitly. 07:32:06 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.83.163.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 07:35:18 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:38:41 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.64.50.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 07:53:00 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:53:06 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 08:00:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:19 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 08:19:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B766C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:20:30 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 08:30:25 <peter1138> hmm, can tortoisesvn do a move/copy? 08:31:51 *** RichK_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:33:49 *** RichK_wrk is now known as RichK67_wrk 08:35:27 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:35:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:37:57 <roboman> i just tried building a ship in the coop sandbox game wich is runing 0.4.7 and it crashed 08:38:48 <RichK67_wrk> iirc openttdcoop games are always set to allow no ships 08:38:52 <XeryusTC> roboman:"ships are disabled 08:38:58 <roboman> ok 08:39:07 <roboman> but why did it crash 08:42:01 <roboman> i think if a certain type of transport is dissabled, the toolbar/button on the main toolbar should be greyed out 08:42:31 <roboman> rather than crash 08:47:49 <Bjarni> yeah, you are right 08:48:01 <Bjarni> it crashes if max is set to 0 and you try to build it anyway 08:48:06 <Bjarni> hmm 08:48:27 <peter1138> hmm 08:48:58 <Bjarni> I got a theory on what could happen, but I have to wait for my debug build to finish compiling to verify it 08:49:51 *** RichK67_wrk is now known as RichK67_wrk|away 08:49:57 *** IRCMonkey [n=chatzill@dsl51B7903C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:49:57 *** IRCMonkey [n=chatzill@dsl51B7903C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 08:53:59 <Bjarni> found it 08:54:29 <Bjarni> GetFreeUnitNumber() is not designed for a max of 0 08:55:01 <Bjarni> this causes it to skip malloc and then it uses it like it is allocated, hence reading from a null pointer 08:55:25 <peter1138> "oops" 08:56:40 <Bjarni> well, if it detects 0, then it can just return 1 before using the array 08:56:48 <Bjarni> unit_num > _patches.max_ships will catch that 08:56:51 <peter1138> yeah 08:56:57 <Bjarni> and return STR_00E1_TOO_MANY_VEHICLES_IN_GAME 08:58:13 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5427 /trunk/ (aircraft_cmd.c roadveh_cmd.c ship_cmd.c train_cmd.c): - Codechange: testing for "== true" is redundant. 08:59:59 <Bjarni> ok, now it says that it got too many vehicles in the game 09:00:15 <Bjarni> a proper fix would say "vehicle type disabled in this game" or something like that 09:01:59 <Bjarni> I think I will commit it anyway. I don't want to mess with strings right now. I better get back to work and that message is way better than a crash ;) 09:03:36 <peter1138> ignore the strings 09:03:47 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has quit ["Leaving."] 09:03:58 <peter1138> the build button should be disabled instead 09:04:25 <Bjarni> yeah 09:04:48 <Bjarni> well, I think I should commit this fix anyway, so we get rid of a potential crash 09:05:33 <CIA-3> bjarni * r5428 /trunk/vehicle.c: 09:05:33 <CIA-3> -Fix: [vehicles] sovled crash when trying to build a vehicle type, that is set to max 0 (spotted by roboman) 09:05:33 <CIA-3> somebody might add a better string than "too many vehicles in game" since none are allowed, but at least it will not crash anymore 09:05:35 <peter1138> yes, of course 09:06:00 <peter1138> holy crap 09:06:06 <peter1138> an big if block for *that*? 09:06:13 <peter1138> if (max == 0) return 1; 09:06:15 <peter1138> :P 09:06:57 <Bjarni> well, I like comments on why the code do things, that you might not figure out the reason to do right away 09:07:06 *** christooss [n=matic@clj20-83.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #openttd 09:07:17 <Bjarni> in a month, none of us can remember this if I left out the comments 09:07:31 <Bjarni> hey, an SI country 09:07:38 <Bjarni> I bet they are not using miles :) 09:10:25 <vondel> the roadsigns indicate meters 09:10:47 <vondel> and cpus which say they'll do 2000MT/s are outlawed 09:11:32 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:11:36 <vondel> 2000 megatesla/s is a letal magnetic pulse to all eletronic equipment 09:14:56 <peter1138> Bjarni: does, not do 09:15:17 <peter1138> Bjarni: and i didn't mean leave out the comment... 09:15:34 <peter1138> /* big comment */ 09:15:40 <peter1138> if (max == 0) return 1; 09:15:46 <peter1138> is more legible, imo 09:25:46 <peter1138> Bjarni: does http://fuzzle.org/o/disablebuild.diff do the job? (can't actually test it, heh) 09:28:01 <peter1138> hmm 09:28:07 <peter1138> actually it can go in the else o_O 09:30:16 <Bjarni> I can test that one. It might do the trick 09:30:35 <Bjarni> but I don't think it's good enough 09:30:35 <peter1138> Bjarni: reload the diff 09:30:50 <peter1138> hmm 09:31:20 <peter1138> Bjarni: think split ;p 09:31:30 <Bjarni> is it thanksgiving today or some other turkey/bird event? 09:31:33 <peter1138> another patch to disable the build button the depot... 09:32:42 <Bjarni> we should disable cloning as well 09:33:13 <RichK67_wrk|away> bit academic - if there a no ships, there is nothing to clone 09:33:33 <roboman> hello 09:33:50 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 09:33:53 <peter1138> svn diff 09:33:55 <peter1138> er 09:33:56 *** RichK67_wrk|away is now known as RichK67_wrk 09:34:00 <roboman> i just helped find a bug and its been fixed 09:34:04 <peter1138> Bjarni: that'll just fail anyway, won't it? 09:34:35 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-15803.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 09:35:16 <peter1138> RichK67_wrk: you see my patch against the transparency stuff in the MiniIN? 09:37:02 <peter1138> Bjarni: reload again? ;-) 09:37:19 <peter1138> Bjarni: i added the test for train depots... just needs to be extended to cover other vehicle types 09:37:24 <RichK67_wrk> yeah - thanks ill add it tonight 09:44:21 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-172-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 09:44:21 <Bjarni> train_gui.c:412:55: error: macro "SB" requires 4 arguments, but only 2 given 09:44:44 *** covek [n=covek@dsl5400D776.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 09:45:17 <peter1138> SETBIT 09:45:18 <peter1138> o_O 09:45:36 <covek> Hello! 09:46:18 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 09:47:27 <Brianetta> Well, my new autopilot ran all night without screwing up 09:48:04 <covek> hup-on olvastam ismét openttd-r?l. Jöv?héten lesz id?m picit. Ki fogom próbálni az új verziót ubuntu alatt. 09:48:49 *** Nubian [n=nubian@gw.wnet.sk] has joined #openttd 09:48:58 <peter1138> and in english? 09:49:34 <peter1138> Brianetta: did it screw up previously then? 09:50:03 <Brianetta> peter1138: I implemented an IRC bridge 09:50:07 <peter1138> oh dear 09:50:10 <Brianetta> (: 09:50:20 <Brianetta> #openttdcoop allows you to talk to sandbox players 09:50:31 <peter1138> someone implemented a complete irc client in ottd once 09:50:43 <roboman> and vice versa 09:50:55 <peter1138> what, ottd inside an irc client? ;) 09:51:38 <Sacro> what next? inside emacs? 09:51:49 <peter1138> no, we don't support that OS 09:52:18 <Brianetta> autopilot is never going to be *that* bloated 09:52:28 <Brianetta> although Tcl is a bit like Lisp 09:54:01 <covek> I read the news on http://hup.hu openttd 0.4.8-rc1 version. I plan next week test it on ubuntu dapper. :) 09:56:44 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 10:05:35 <Sacro> hmm, i have 6.06 on my hd somewhere 10:08:52 <Bjarni> http://hup.hu/node/26832#comment <-- so what do people write about us? 10:09:12 <Bjarni> in short, I need a universal translator (or at least Hungarian->English) 10:09:24 <Sacro> MiHaMiX said: A 0.5.0-ás kiadás tervezett tartalma, és azok fejlesztési állapota megtekinthet? itt: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Roadmap_0.5 10:09:24 <Sacro> Esetleg próbáld ki a MiniIN kiadást (http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/MiniIN) is, amit innen szerezhetsz be: http://nightly.openttd.org/MiniIN/files/ 10:09:45 <Bjarni> Sacro: not funny 10:10:00 <Bjarni> ok, maybe a little, but you know that's not what I meant :P 10:10:05 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:10:12 <Sacro> Bjarni: probably not, but im past caring :( 10:10:22 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: ?? :) 10:10:36 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: s'ok, bjarni wanted to know what people where replying 10:10:55 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: as you can see, Sacro learned how to copy paste languages, that he is completely clueless about the content of the paste 10:11:06 <Bjarni> kind of like when he paste English texts 10:11:17 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: I'll translate :) 10:11:21 <Bjarni> [12:08] <Bjarni> http://hup.hu/node/26832#comment <-- so what do people write about us? 10:11:27 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: just wait a little, I'm on a meeting 10:11:44 <Bjarni> hmm, it's past 10:00 10:11:47 <Bjarni> 12:00 even 10:12:02 <Bjarni> lunchbreak... so what am I doing here? 10:12:05 <Bjarni> bbl 10:13:00 <Sacro> go on, be gone with you :P 10:13:00 *** Nubian [n=nubian@gw.wnet.sk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:15:56 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 10:16:00 <MiHaMiX> back 10:16:05 <MiHaMiX> so.. 10:16:31 <covek> bye 10:16:33 *** covek [n=covek@dsl5400D776.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 10:16:41 *** Nubian [n=nubian@gw.wnet.sk] has joined #openttd 10:16:54 <MiHaMiX> about the content of the upcoming 0.5.0 release, and it's development state are available here: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Roadmap_0.5 10:17:01 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: it was for you 10:17:42 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: 'You may want to try out the MiniIN edition (http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/MiniIN), too, which is available for download from here: http://nightly.openttd.org/MiniIN/files/' 10:19:46 * Brianetta tries to guess whether MiHaMiX made every other letter in his nick lower case, or he made every vowel lower case 10:20:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> there is probably an infinite number of functions with this output ;) 10:21:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> (with the same input...) 10:22:48 <MiHaMiX> Brianetta: good problem! please let me know about your conclusions :-) 10:22:58 <MiHaMiX> "...handing C++ to the average programmer seems roughly comparable to handing a loaded .45 to a chimpanzee." 10:23:01 <MiHaMiX> -- Ted Ts'o 10:23:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> that could come right from uncyclopedia quotes ;) 10:26:35 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: other comment: "I love this game, unfortunately it's not difficult enough. During 20-30 years I have so much money that I don't need to think about money later. Unfortunately the AI is not even an opponent. They're so bad that I used to buy them to sell their rails, because this way I gain on the business.. As far as I can see, there's no AI development in the near future :-(" 10:31:22 <CIA-3> miham * r5429 /trunk/lang/ (turkish.txt unfinished/afrikaans.txt): 10:31:22 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-29 12:30:54 10:31:22 <CIA-3> afrikaans - 127 fixed, 36 changed by TrueTenacity (163) 10:31:22 <CIA-3> turkish - 1 fixed by jnmbk (1) 10:32:17 <MiHaMiX> 3939 bad strings out of 73528 strings 10:34:11 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 10:35:46 <MiHaMiX> bbl, lunch 10:36:45 <ln-> MiHaMiX: that's a good point. after a certain time your company is likely to have so much cash and constant income that you can do virtually anything you want. 10:37:29 <ln-> which is nice when one just wants to build new lines and trains, but it's not very challenging. 10:40:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> rebalancing is supposed to be done post 0.5 10:46:49 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 10:46:53 <black_Nightmare> anyone seen zombie? 10:49:41 <Sacro> !seen zombie 10:56:46 <roboman> are you thinking #tycoon and patchbot 10:57:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> i would not suggest Sacro and thinking ;) 10:57:43 <Sacro> roboman: not just #tycoon, but yeah 10:57:54 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: thats nasty 10:58:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i know ;) 10:59:01 <roboman> its in #roboboy #purno and #jonty-comp 10:59:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, lots of bots have a !seen command 10:59:40 <black_Nightmare> hrm..go figure, what is up with these passworded server when there is no clue how or where to ask for the password :-/ 11:02:08 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 11:02:38 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 11:03:12 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: Which server? 11:03:31 <Brianetta> Some servers are friends / clan only 11:03:58 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 11:04:21 * Sacro waits for the reply "Brianettas Nightly"... 11:04:43 <Brianetta> Sacro: Mine has a clue 11:04:54 <Sacro> Brianetta: unlike the admin :P 11:05:27 <SpComb> OpenTTD clans? 11:05:38 <black_Nightmare> its zombie's server 11:05:42 <black_Nightmare> seem to be an older nightly one 11:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> and why do you want exactly on that particular server? 11:08:01 *** TheMask97 [i=martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:08:22 <black_Nightmare> eddi..got any idea where to find a server that has these requests? 1024x1024 or smaller map, airplanes allowed, light competition ok but rude competition not allowed, turn around at stations .. anything else is optional ;) 11:08:48 <black_Nightmare> it just seem difficult to find one at all I'm lucky if some 'I decided to try host a game once' server comes online for one day 11:08:51 *** TheMask96 [i=martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:08:55 <Brianetta> Mine except for thelame station thing 11:08:59 <Sacro> turn around at stations? 11:09:13 <black_Nightmare> sacro..helps with when you have a station thats set up bi-directional 11:09:47 <Brianetta> It helps trains to screw up 11:09:48 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:10:05 <black_Nightmare> not 11:10:13 <black_Nightmare> if a train needs to go through..it does either way 11:10:23 <black_Nightmare> but if a train needs to turn around..its your server setting that screws these up 11:10:58 <black_Nightmare> (and building a loop around station seem space wasting) 11:12:15 <peter1138> RichK67_wrk: btw, are you going to remove all those strings? 11:12:29 <peter1138> (the ones removed from english.txt) 11:15:30 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 11:15:43 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 11:17:47 <Bjarni> MiHaMiX: thanks... turned out to be not that interesting after all... but now I know that ;) 11:19:08 <Bjarni> got to go now. See you tomorrow (or whenever I happen to be online again) 11:19:11 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:28:56 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 11:30:53 <RichK67_wrk> peter: define "those" 11:31:04 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 11:32:30 <RichK67_wrk> ah - right... remove the ones from the other languages, since they have no match in english.txt... yes, sometime, but if someone beats me to it, i would appreciate it ;) 11:37:08 <peter1138> just http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/error.log is a bit big ;) 11:37:35 <peter1138> hmm, need a decent text editor for windows... 11:37:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> gvim 11:37:46 <peter1138> maybe i could use vs's editor everywhere, heh 11:38:03 <peter1138> notepad2. hmm. 11:38:23 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 11:39:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> settings_gui.c:962: warning: format '%08X' expects type 'unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'long unsigned int' <- that looks fun ;) 11:41:38 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:42:29 <Sacro> peter1138: UltraEdit? 11:48:10 <peter1138> notepad2 appears to do the job 11:51:08 <Sacro> hmm, might have to look into that, suppose i should really choose freeware/oss, over what torrents have on "special offer" 11:52:47 <Brianetta> vim32 should do the trick 11:53:06 <peter1138> hmm, i also need a log watcher 11:53:14 <Brianetta> I have just the thing 11:53:19 <peter1138> tail? ;p 11:53:23 <Brianetta> letme dig up its URL from the readme 11:54:02 <Brianetta> http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/tailforwin32 11:54:07 <Brianetta> It's a complete GUI application 11:54:17 <RichK67_wrk> peter: notepad2 is cool 11:54:19 <Brianetta> allows keyword highlights, beeps, etc 11:54:46 <peter1138> heh, nice 11:58:55 <peter1138> that works well enough 12:00:22 <Sacro> ooh beeps 12:02:22 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:09:49 <Trippledence> Time to leave to canada, see you all in 19 days :P 12:09:55 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-72445.0x535a0976.odnxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:10:13 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit ["My BNC will keep you warm, vist #teamlag, #hexus.cs"] 12:10:31 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-72445.0x535a0976.odnxx12.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:12:27 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-72445.0x535a0976.odnxx12.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:18:03 <Brianetta> Can't one IRC form Canada? 12:18:50 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:28:50 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 12:34:42 *** MrRexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-6667.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 12:37:37 <roboman> gnight 12:39:42 <peter1138> # that's what i get 12:40:30 <Sacro> peter1138: is that a comment? and therefore ignored? 12:40:37 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:40:40 * Sacro kills the channel with a swift /* 12:41:15 <Trenskow> any1 familiar with kdevelop ? 12:41:24 <Sacro> Trenskow: ive used it 12:41:53 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-15803.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:42:00 <Trenskow> Sacro, where is the output when debugging ? 12:42:20 <Sacro> isnt there a console tab at the bottom? 12:42:37 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 12:42:47 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@cpe.atm2-0-72445.0x535a0976.odnxx12.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:44:58 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has joined #openttd 12:45:04 <Sacro> wb 12:45:04 <Trenskow> Sacro, sorry 12:45:10 <Trenskow> this hotspot went out of money 12:45:10 <Sacro> you will be :P 12:45:11 <Trenskow> thx 12:45:25 <Trenskow> yes there is, but it doesn't execute... just cd's 12:45:36 <Sacro> hmm 12:45:49 <Sacro> not sure, i only really used it as an editor 12:45:55 <Sacro> but then i moved to kwrite and konsole 12:46:01 <Trenskow> hehe ok 12:46:12 <Trenskow> i like the project views 12:46:25 <Trenskow> i used to use xcode, but it's fucked up with 100000 different windows 12:46:29 <Trenskow> i don't like that 12:46:43 <Sacro> ah 12:47:46 <Trenskow> i can't live without breakpoints :D 12:47:54 <Sacro> gdb? 12:48:59 <Trenskow> hmm... fairly new to unix programming 12:49:07 <Trenskow> hasn't done any until I got my mac 12:49:07 <Trenskow> :) 12:49:42 <Sacro> lol 12:52:53 <Trenskow> what's lol ? ! ? :D 12:55:15 <Sacro> lolzzorz 13:02:30 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-10608.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:04:35 <vondel> laughing out loud 13:04:52 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 13:07:00 *** Matt-W [i=maw@growl/Matt-W] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:07:15 *** MrRexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-6667.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:10:42 *** Matt-W [n=maw@wonky.org.uk] has joined #openttd 13:18:03 *** Matt-W [n=maw@growl/Matt-W] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:20:18 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:21:12 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 13:22:25 <Trenskow> going home 13:22:26 <Trenskow> cya 13:22:28 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@80.251.195.2] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 13:23:04 *** Matt-W [i=maw@wonky.org.uk] has joined #openttd 13:23:16 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 13:27:18 <MiHaMiX> any norwegian here? 13:28:34 *** _Red is now known as Red 13:29:14 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: yes 13:29:18 <peter1138> i know one 13:29:23 <peter1138> but she prefers simutrans ;( 13:29:31 <Sacro> she...? 13:30:05 <ln-> Sacro: "she" is a pronoun used when referring to females. 13:30:33 <Sacro> ln-: females... 13:30:33 <Sacro> ? 13:31:49 <ln-> i've seen some irl a few times. 13:32:05 <ln-> they are not just a myth. 13:35:10 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 13:36:14 <Sacro> i mgiht have to go out hunting for some 13:48:04 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: is it true that there are two official norwegian language (bokmal and nynorsk) ? 13:49:59 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: google is your friend, or wikipedia 13:51:48 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: so you tell me STFW? :P 13:51:57 <Sacro> About 85.3% of the pupils in the primary and lower secondary schools in Norway receive education in Bokmål, while about 14.5% receive education in Nynorsk. 13:52:06 <MiHaMiX> Norway has two official languages - Bokmal and Nynorsk. 13:52:08 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: basically :) 13:52:21 <MiHaMiX> Both languages are very similar. 13:52:48 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: I just ask it since someone requested a translator account for norwegian languages (both) 13:53:23 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: afraid i arent norwegian, but i can help with en_GB 13:54:21 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: current norwegian language is bokmal 13:55:39 <Sacro> i think its less pronunciation, and more writtten 13:55:56 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: ok, thx. 13:56:07 <ln-> MiHaMiX: as far as i know, the languages are quite similar when spoken, but there are big differences in written language. 13:56:21 <ln-> bokmål is close to danish. 13:57:09 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:57:50 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 13:58:14 <Sacro> hmm, its all complex 14:00:35 *** Schamane_ [n=schamane@p5498DC32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:02:50 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:04:45 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:09 <Sacro> im sure dutch and danish are exactly the same and its just a con 14:05:19 <lws1984> nevar 14:05:28 <lws1984> dutch = from the Netherlands 14:05:36 <lws1984> danish = from Denmark 14:06:15 <Sacro> hmm sounds so very similar though 14:06:19 <Sacro> bbs, shower 14:08:16 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:09:08 *** Osai^zZz [n=Osai@p54B36E5B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:10:27 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 14:11:39 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:15:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:54 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:56:02 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:26 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 15:01:13 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:02:14 *** OwenS [n=OwenS@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:07:28 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 15:08:37 *** d3x7r0 [i=meireles@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 15:09:23 <Ammler> Brianetta: when will your nightly server restarted? 15:14:58 <Brianetta> Ammler: Tonight probably 15:15:49 <Ammler> ah, ok I would like to play with the old ones... 15:18:17 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:36:48 *** Jpl [i=jpl@86.60.133.206] has quit ["leaving"] 15:46:56 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:49:03 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:53:01 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:53:37 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:53:41 *** Frostregen_ [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-151-214.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:10:02 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 16:10:34 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-113-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:10:48 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:20:30 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 16:25:35 *** ems [n=ems@203-214-133-79.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 16:25:37 <ems> hi 16:25:38 <ems> <__20h__> If anyone gets Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe to work on Plan 9, then he will get a beer. 16:25:46 <ems> you heard that folks! 16:25:53 <ems> FREE BEER! 16:25:53 <Sacro> Plan 9? 16:25:56 <Sacro> linkage? 16:25:59 <Sacro> i dont like beer 16:25:59 <ems> Get working! 16:26:11 <ems> http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9 16:26:12 <Sacro> and is that free as in beer? or free as in speech? 16:26:42 <ems> its beer for free 16:26:51 <Brianetta> Free as in Internet Explorer 16:26:54 <ln-> what's "Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe"? 16:27:04 <Sacro> ln-: OpenTTD :P 16:27:15 <ln-> no, OpenTTD is OpenTTD. 16:28:16 <Brianetta> It used to be called Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe 16:28:45 <ln-> yes, but it was changed after people pointed out that Transport Tycoon Deluxe is someone's registered trademark. 16:29:25 <Brianetta> so? Perhapds ems wants an old revision to work 16:29:42 <ems> that doesn't sound like people are working 16:29:56 <ems> see #plan9 for plan 9 16:30:40 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:30:57 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:31:02 * Sacro doesnt drink beer and decides its not worth his time 16:31:54 <ln-> you'd better tell us what's plan 9, we don't want to join any suspicious channels. 16:32:11 <ems> its Bell Labs successor to UNIX 16:33:02 <ln-> does it have SDL? 16:33:55 <Sacro> ln-: dont think so 16:34:45 <ems> ln-: it just needs to be compiled 16:35:02 <ems> ape has been patched to support it 16:35:07 <Sacro> ems: i dont hear compiling 16:35:40 <ln-> so what's the part of ottd that doesn't compile on plan 9? 16:35:49 <ems> mkfiles were made but not tested yet because of final exams by the person who is doing it 16:36:20 <ems> ln-: it should mostly compile... with some minor adjustments... it just needs someone to do it... 16:38:30 <Sacro> hmm brb 16:38:31 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-172-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Gone"] 16:39:17 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 16:39:28 <Wolf01> hi all 16:42:04 <RichK67_wrk> hey ho 16:42:38 <peter1138> heloo 16:43:31 <Belugas> good day 16:44:29 <peter1138> Wolf01: are you sure that 0110 -> 0000 -> 1111 -> 0000 is desirable behaviour? 16:44:43 <Wolf01> yes, is set-reset 16:44:54 <peter1138> 0110 -> 0000 -> 0110 -> 0000 seems logical to me 16:45:13 <Wolf01> no, because if i want to reset 3 transparencies i have to do it by hand 16:45:33 <RichK67_wrk> agree with peter there.... X should just flip on/off for current settings... shift-X skips through 16:46:06 <Wolf01> so 1010 -> 0101 ? 16:46:47 <peter1138> no, 1010 -> 0000 -> 1010 16:47:02 <Belugas> I agree too 16:47:11 <Belugas> otherwise, a bit confusing 16:47:14 <Wolf01> add a patch setting to toggle memorization on/off 16:47:20 *** independence [n=independ@80.252.191.9] has left #openttd [] 16:47:23 <RichK67_wrk> wolf01: i would find that x-off resetting all transparencies would be annoying - say i wanted to by default just make buildings and industries transparent... then every time i do X, i would have to skip through to the right settings again 16:48:08 <RichK67_wrk> peter - your patch does that, yes? 16:48:12 <peter1138> yeah 16:48:37 <RichK67_wrk> its getting MiniIN'd tonight then ;) 16:48:39 <Wolf01> my patch with his modify 16:48:59 <RichK67_wrk> yeah - dont worry credit where it is due 16:49:16 <Wolf01> and wait before merge it, because i'm working on it 16:49:38 <peter1138> Wolf01: you're right that resetting it to all transparent will take longer, but i think that will be less common than wanting to toggle the selection 16:49:47 <RichK67_wrk> if you grab peter's .diff from the MiniIN thread, and work that in, that would be great 16:50:30 <Wolf01> only one thing, i really don't know how exadecimal codes works 16:50:40 <Wolf01> the 0xF things 16:51:04 <Wolf01> i always used binary and decimal 16:51:43 <peter1138> from a coder point of view, hexadecimal gives a better representation of binary 16:51:56 <peter1138> 11110000 = 1111, 0000 = 0xF0 16:52:02 <peter1138> in decimal, it is ... er... 16:52:10 <peter1138> 240 16:52:20 <peter1138> (see, i had to get a calculator out to work that out) 16:52:57 <Wolf01> i always use calculator 16:53:20 <RichK67_wrk> lol - not enough hand-coding of machine code in decimal then... you need practice ;) 16:53:26 <peter1138> hehe 16:53:39 <peter1138> that particular 0xF could just as easily be a 15, though 16:53:51 <Wolf01> so, for example, 000110010000 is like 0x190? 16:53:54 <RichK67_wrk> 62, 01; = 0x 3e01 = ld a, 1 (Z80 m/c) 16:53:59 <peter1138> yes 16:54:16 <peter1138> argh, not z80 :/ 16:54:43 <RichK67_wrk> lol - i wrote a 48k m/c game for the ZX Spectrum :) in hand-poked decimal :) 16:54:52 <peter1138> 000110010000 is ... er... 256 + 128 + 32 = er 16:55:06 <peter1138> 160 + 256 = 316 ... i think? 16:55:19 <Wolf01> simply i put 000110010000 and i change the base :P 16:55:32 <Wolf01> (on the calculator) 16:55:45 <peter1138> yup, you can do that, but with hex we don't have to 16:55:55 <RichK67_wrk> yup 16:56:10 <peter1138> otoh, GB() and SB() are even simpler :) 16:56:15 <peter1138> shame they're nonstandard, really 16:56:40 <Wolf01> SB stay for Store Bit? 16:56:53 <RichK67_wrk> Get Bit, Set Bit 16:56:54 <peter1138> set bits 16:57:16 <peter1138> oddly enough, SETBIT() only sets one bit, heh 16:57:22 <peter1138> (and takes no parameter) 16:57:29 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-172-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:58:05 <peter1138> er, no value parameter, i mean 16:58:27 <RichK67_wrk> i was just thinking... how does it know where to set then? 16:58:40 <RichK67_wrk> so is there a CLRBIT? 16:58:43 <peter1138> yup 16:58:53 <Belugas> I love setbit for that. You need a bit, you don't fiddle around. set it. that's it! 16:59:23 <CIA-3> miham * r5430 /trunk/lang/ (spanish.txt unfinished/afrikaans.txt): 16:59:23 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-29 18:59:04 16:59:23 <CIA-3> afrikaans - 128 fixed, 128 changed by TrueTenacity (256) 16:59:23 <CIA-3> spanish - 15 fixed by eusebio (15) 17:00:02 <RichK67_wrk> peter: im doing my VAT accounts tonight, could you remove those strings for me? 17:01:14 <Wolf01> ok, i'll keep your "memorize" patch, but i add a "Activate settigns memorization for transparencies" in configure patches interface tab 17:01:40 <Wolf01> so we both are happy 17:02:04 <RichK67_wrk> remember to set the setting type to "S", so it doesnt get saved 17:02:09 <RichK67_wrk> in savegames 17:02:12 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 17:02:38 <Wolf01> yes don't bother 17:03:44 * peter1138 ponders... remove strings or go swimming... 17:04:11 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 17:04:53 <Belugas> go, i'll string 17:05:03 <RichK67_wrk> ty both 17:05:42 <Belugas> de nada 17:05:52 <Belugas> de rien 17:06:07 * peter1138 > off 17:08:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:35 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:16:20 <RichK67_wrk> bbl 17:16:21 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 17:16:42 *** ems [n=ems@203-214-133-79.perm.iinet.net.au] has left #openttd ["Leaving"] 17:22:13 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B82565.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:52 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 17:32:14 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 17:34:54 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:35:20 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:36:05 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B764F5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:38:41 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9C4.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:39:23 <CIA-3> belugas * r5431 /trunk/lang/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Language : Remove some unused airport related strings 17:39:44 <Belugas> there you go, richk 17:39:52 <Wolf01> peter1138, ping 17:41:48 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82E67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:44:40 <Wolf01> this code is wrong to set the 4 bits of transparency, SB(_display_opt,7,4,1); 17:44:40 <Wolf01> i must use 0x780?? 0000 0111 1000 0000 17:44:41 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 17:44:49 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 17:45:10 <glx> SB(_display_opt,7,4,0xF); 17:45:25 <Wolf01> uhm, yes 17:46:09 *** Ammler1 [n=chatzill@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:47:34 <Wolf01> ok, works 17:47:47 <Wolf01> thanks 17:47:50 <glx> np 17:53:31 <Sacro> braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains 17:54:55 <Sacro> hmm, theres none around here 17:55:00 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 17:59:21 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:02:41 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@228.152.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:02:43 <Wolf01> uhm, someone can tell me why the jukebox continues to skip all tracks and it doesn't make any sound? 18:02:53 <Sacro> Wolf01: it has no gm files 18:03:19 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 18:03:31 <Wolf01> oh, i forget to add it XD 18:07:01 * Vornicus points and laughs at Wolf01 18:07:47 <Wolf01> i thought i copied the entire 0.4.7 directory, but i discovered thati i copied only the data subdirectory 18:07:48 * Sacro passes by Wolf01, not eonugh braaaaaaaaaaaains to fill me up 18:10:42 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-141-200-55.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:10:59 <Wolf01> groan... (Italy) taxes of energy and gas will grow on july -.- 18:11:49 <Belugas> hehehe come here... Goods and Service Federal tax is lowered by one % in july :) 18:11:54 <Belugas> Huray canada! 18:12:30 <Wolf01> and is less hot than here... 37°C with 80% of humidity 18:13:03 * Wolf01 is thinking about taking a journey in Canada 18:13:41 <Belugas> come :) I'll show you around :) 18:13:48 <Belugas> And even below ;) 18:16:23 <Sacro> :o 18:17:27 <Belugas> I've already invited you, Sacro. You politely refused ;) 18:17:50 <Sacro> Belugas: i dont have a passport 18:17:59 <Sacro> and afaik, canada isnt in the eu 18:18:21 <Wolf01> i don't have it too 18:25:36 <Wolf01> how i can turn on the visualization of reserved tracks for pbs? was debug_level pbs=3, but in the miniIN doesn't work 18:26:34 <Belugas> Too bad for you guys :) 18:27:34 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-61-43.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 18:28:51 <Sacro> debug_level pbs=1 18:30:33 <Wolf01> uhm, routes aren't showed 18:33:38 <Wolf01> maybe is needed a grf 18:35:31 <Belugas> not that i know of... 18:35:56 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 18:37:16 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HLF24-14-S.jpg i want :'( 18:43:01 <ln-> wtf is that? 18:45:14 <Sacro> fire engine that can go on roads AND railways :D 18:47:35 * Sacro considers installing a mail server on his laptop... 18:48:01 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-1-220.easynet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:50:57 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181114047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:51:05 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 18:56:19 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:58:43 *** d3x7r0 [i=meireles@84.90.228.100] has quit ["Fui embora"] 19:01:23 <Wolf01> http://www.geocities.com/carlmailuk/bttf/rail4.jpg i want this instead, it can go on roads, railways, it flies, and can go across the time! 19:02:34 *** Cxaxukluth [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:04:16 <hylje> yes but are those mass-produced 19:06:08 <Wolf01> yes, why not, you can buy a 1:34 model for about :P 19:10:06 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:13:26 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498CD9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:14:09 <Sacro> Wolf01: i wnat the steam train from the end of 3 19:14:29 <Wolf01> yeah, that was cool 19:18:40 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:19:02 *** OwenS [n=OwenS@cpc1-stkn6-0-0-cust801.midd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:24:41 <Wolf01> sacro, i noticed an unwanted behaviour of the waiting time at signals caused by day_length, should i multiply something for day_length there? if (++v->load_unload_time_rem < _patches.wait_oneway_signal * 20) return; 19:25:15 <Sacro> hmmmz 19:25:28 <Sacro> yes, why not :) 19:27:45 <Wolf01> and what about running costs? 19:28:46 <Wolf01> running costs aren't altered, but trains profit can be 32 times more 19:28:58 <Sacro> yes, as well as economy 19:29:10 <Sacro> i just never got round to digging through all the source to fix it 19:29:22 <Belugas> running cost? Still running? Will there be anybody stopping them??? 19:31:02 <Sacro> Belugas: doubt it 19:33:07 <Sacro> ah pub, bbl 19:33:12 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-172-47.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:33:15 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 19:33:48 <Belugas> no sens of humour :( 19:35:15 * Wolf01 ftp://wolf01.game-host.org/IMG_HOST/profit.png 19:35:43 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-1-220.easynet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:35:47 <Wolf01> i only stretched the time 32 times :P 19:35:56 <Wolf01> and the profit also is stretched 19:43:09 *** BobingAbout [n=BobingAb@adsl-83-100-150-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:43:37 *** BobingAbout [n=BobingAb@adsl-83-100-150-177.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 19:44:03 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 19:50:03 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:52:00 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 19:52:44 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E9C4.pool.t-online.hu] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:03:15 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 20:12:43 <hylje> is the nightly data directory as in 4.7 20:12:52 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:13:33 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:15:53 <peter1138> no 20:16:02 <peter1138> it's got more bits in it 20:16:10 <peter1138> and i wouldn't be surprised if openttd.grf is changed too 20:16:58 <Wolf01> peter1138, can you help me to fix the economy when stretching the time? 20:17:28 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:21 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 20:22:31 <MeusH> hi 20:22:54 <Wolf01> hey MeusH 20:23:06 <ln-> narodowye bank polski 20:23:22 <MeusH> :P 20:23:34 <MeusH> s/narodowye/narodowy :) 20:23:54 <ln-> ah, true. 20:23:58 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 20:24:29 <ln-> banknoty emitowane przez narodowy bank polski sa prawnym srodkiem platniczym w polsce 20:24:49 <MeusH> Suomen Pankki 20:24:54 <ln-> \o/ 20:25:12 <hylje> :b 20:25:40 <hylje> how do polska people actually pronounce all that 20:28:50 <MeusH> very easy :) 20:30:50 <MeusH> Yksi Markka - what's that? One Mark? 20:31:05 <ln-> what does that sentence mean, btw? is it perhaps something like "the bank of poland will exchange this banknote to one beer"? 20:32:19 <MeusH> cash printed by national bank of poland are legally cash in poland :P 20:32:27 <MeusH> hmm something like that 20:32:29 <MeusH> = nonsence 20:32:46 <MeusH> *is a proper cash in poland 20:32:49 <hylje> whats illegal cash then 20:33:06 <ln-> must be the banknotes that i printed myself. ;) 20:33:11 <MeusH> it would be nice to have a banknote => beer exchange 20:33:22 <hylje> MeusH: called bars 20:33:27 <MeusH> however, one smallest banknote is about 2-4 beers :) 20:33:39 <Belugas> wait for newcargos/newindustries :) 20:33:49 <MeusH> Belugas: what are you planning? 20:33:58 <MeusH> is it something cool? 20:34:02 <hylje> yes 20:34:03 <Belugas> to be crazy, i guess ! 20:34:45 <ln-> the "LEH" beer was a-ok. 20:34:52 <Belugas> joke aside... take water and grain. bring it to the brewer industry, it gives beer that you can send to hotels! 20:34:58 <Belugas> pretty cool ingame :) 20:34:59 <hylje> :> 20:35:08 <Belugas> although i'm not taht far :S 20:35:23 <hylje> more fine-grained it is then 20:35:27 <hylje> more smaller industries? 20:35:35 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:36:16 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 20:36:26 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:36:32 <MeusH> there is one bonus map for UT 2004... you must fight your way to reclaim the brewery :) 20:36:40 <hylje> :> 20:37:12 <ln-> MeusH: i was in poland with ~30 other finnish students... when we entered a restaurant in lowicz, they had beer. when we left the place, they didn't have any beer. 20:37:18 <Belugas> don;t know hylje , ask the grf writers. I'm merely an interpreter of their works 20:38:24 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 20:38:46 <MeusH> that's cool, ln- 20:38:56 <MeusH> however, Lowicz isn't that nice place 20:39:06 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176096238.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:39:07 <MeusH> an ugly rural hamlet 20:41:01 <ln-> the very centre of the city was quite nice, but yeah, quite much grey concrete around. 20:41:22 <ln-> and the police was rude. 20:41:28 <MeusH> yep :/ 20:41:36 <hylje> soviet-era? 20:42:02 <ln-> april 2004 era (i.e. 1 week before EU membership) 20:42:34 <ln-> now that it's part of EU, it's probably all grass and beautiful trees with birds singing. 20:42:51 <MeusH> haha nice one :) 20:43:56 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2CE9A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:16 <ln-> gah, we were driving through warszawa with our bus, but the trip leader decided that it's too big a city, we won't stop there. 20:44:34 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit ["I'm gone, bye bye :)"] 20:44:36 *** |Jeroen| [n=jeroen@dD5E03EB1.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Whoopsy"] 20:45:03 <MeusH> yeah, that's big city, but I don't like it 20:45:26 <MeusH> I prefer Cracow "with grass and beautiful trees with birds singing" <- really :) 20:46:27 <ln-> where do you live? 20:46:42 <MeusH> Cracow 20:46:46 <hylje> really 20:46:48 <hylje> rly 20:46:50 <MeusH> it's in the southern part of Poland 20:46:57 <MeusH> really, I live in my personal cave 20:47:09 <MeusH> made of cushions :) 20:47:12 <hylje> :o 20:47:14 <hylje> with internet 20:47:19 <ln-> yeah, Krakow is approximately the only town in southern poland that i know by name. 20:47:21 <MeusH> with flashy lights to keep monsters away 20:48:08 <MeusH> ln- I know only Helsinki and Kotka :) 20:48:11 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181114047.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 20:48:22 <MeusH> Kotka means pussycat in polish :) 20:48:33 <ln-> it means eagle in finnish 20:49:11 <MeusH> I'll try to remeber that 20:49:26 <MeusH> and where do you live? south, north or somewhere in the middle? 20:49:51 <ln-> south-west, the city of turku. 20:50:00 <MeusH> But you do experience white nights? Like right now? 20:50:01 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:50:34 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:50:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:52:03 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:52:08 <ln-> well how to describe. the sun has set, but the sky is still more blue than black. 20:53:05 <MeusH> is it going to be blue at midnight, in one hour? 20:53:16 <MeusH> that's nice, anyway 20:53:17 <ln-> there's enough light outside to easily read a book, for example. 20:53:37 <MeusH> how about insomnia? 20:53:50 <ln-> it won't get much darker even at midnight. 20:54:40 <ln-> i haven't heard insomnia being a big problem. 20:54:49 <MeusH> I was in northern Poland one year ago, at summer holiday, and the sky was in navy color at midnight 20:54:54 <MeusH> but it was dark 20:55:17 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:55:20 <MeusH> and how is it in winter, ln-? 20:55:40 <MeusH> You've got probably loads of snow and very, very short days? 20:56:49 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2EBC1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:56:49 *** dp is now known as dp-- 20:57:17 <MeusH> Google hasn't got detailed pics of Turku, but I see hundreds of islands 20:57:22 <MeusH> that must be wonderful 20:58:05 <ln-> there's not very much snow this south, though that depends on the year. the days are indeed short, it gets dark around 1600 hours already. 21:02:06 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 21:02:12 <MeusH> my dad just told me about his friend who has been north to the 66 33'N (I don't know how to call that place) 21:02:28 <MeusH> his friend was awaken at 2 am by boys playing football :) 21:03:32 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:05:22 <ln-> 66 33'N, you mean the polar circle? 21:05:29 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:05:52 <ln-> polarnyi krug po-ruski 21:06:19 <MeusH> kr?g polarny - po polsku :) 21:06:24 <MeusH> pretty close 21:06:25 <MeusH> right 21:06:46 <yanek> polarni kruh - czech ;-) 21:07:18 <Bjarni> finally sf is back to a working condition 21:07:41 <Bjarni> do anybody know if DV wanted us to release RC1 as a release? 21:07:42 <Eddi|zuHause> polarkreis auf deutsch ;) 21:08:17 <ln-> napapiiri suomeksi 21:09:08 <Bjarni> <MeusH> his friend was awaken at 2 am by boys playing football :) <-- I once went fishing at midnight.... in sunshine, so I'm not amazed 21:09:33 <Belugas_Gone> Bjarni: i do kind of remember he wanted to see if it holds the weekend, before release 21:09:41 <Belugas_Gone> but... i'm surely wrong 21:09:42 <Eddi|zuHause> i once was asleep at midnight, does that count? :) 21:09:47 <Belugas_Gone> and for sure, gone :) 21:09:49 <Dred_furst> Hey 21:09:59 <MeusH> I was asleep at the noon :) 21:10:14 <Bjarni> <Belugas_Gone> and for sure, gone :) <-- physically or mentally? 21:10:15 <Dred_furst> Where are the 0.4.8-rc1 binaries? :) 21:10:25 <Bjarni> Dred_furst: not online 21:10:32 <Dred_furst> why not? :P 21:10:40 <Bjarni> ask Darkvater 21:10:44 <Dred_furst> SF is up for me 21:11:04 <MeusH> Yöttömät yöt <- what's that? 21:11:19 <Bjarni> then it finally happened 21:11:20 <Dred_furst> is 0.4.8 on the SVN? 21:11:30 <Bjarni> even MeusH don't understand what MeusH writes 21:11:39 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of ä and ö :) 21:11:43 <MeusH> it happens :) 21:12:01 <Bjarni> Dred_furst: well, the release candidate is 21:12:26 <Dred_furst> *downloads off SVN* 21:12:51 <Bjarni> it's tagged. It's not the main trunk 21:13:19 <ln-> MeusH: nightless nights 21:13:45 <Dred_furst> Does it have a lot of features of the nightlies? 21:13:57 <MeusH> ahh nightless nightlies 21:14:01 <MeusH> thanks ln- 21:14:03 <[Shaman]> depends which nightlies 21:14:10 <Dred_furst> Like the custom station gfx? 21:14:12 <[Shaman]> the Mini Integrated Nightlies are kickass tbh :P 21:14:49 <Eddi|zuHause> no, 0.4 branch is feature freezed 21:14:58 <Eddi|zuHause> only bugfixes get applied 21:14:58 <Dred_furst> ok 21:15:14 <Dred_furst> ok 21:15:39 <CIA-3> richk * r5432 /branches/MiniIN/train_gui.c: [MiniIN]: - Fix: Missed break; from case WE_CLICK: during trunk update. 21:15:41 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 21:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause> new features are saved for 0.5 release 21:15:50 <Dred_furst> Got you 21:16:49 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:17:21 <ln-> and how many of you have seen northern lights, aka aurora borealis? 21:17:46 * MeusH looks at the floor 21:17:47 <Eddi|zuHause> they once were supposed to be seen down here, but it was cloudy 21:17:59 <MeusH> ln-: just like Eddi's 21:18:08 <MeusH> they said in TV about the aurora 21:18:12 <MeusH> so I didn't sleep 21:18:22 <Ihmemies> o/ 21:18:25 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:18:27 <MeusH> and whoom a huge rainfall washed my face 21:18:31 <Ihmemies> allthetime here in finland! 21:18:33 <Eddi|zuHause> also problem was, that my window is facing south ;) 21:18:52 <ln-> there are southern lights, too, but ... :) 21:19:11 <Eddi|zuHause> they are a _little_ further away ;) 21:19:24 <ln-> and they are not called aurora borealis, btw. 21:20:01 <ln-> but aurora australis. 21:20:43 <Eddi|zuHause> well... kinda obvious ;) 21:21:17 <ln-> anyway, seeing northern lights is sometimes possible in the southern finland, but those aren't particularly impressive usually. 21:21:41 <ln-> and i bet there are a lot of finnis who have never seen those. 21:21:44 <ln-> finns even 21:22:47 <ln-> and some, who have seen, but thought they are only clouds. 21:23:40 <Eddi|zuHause> how far south is Krakau? 21:25:59 <ln-> google earth shows it's quite much at the same latitude as frankfurt a.M. 21:26:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... that's a little further south than me, i think 21:27:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i am in Halle (Saale) 21:31:10 <ln-> why does it have two names? 21:32:32 <MeusH> Cracow is 20deg E, 50deg N 21:32:43 <MeusH> so it's 40deg from North Pole 21:39:07 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:40:30 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:44:39 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 21:44:48 <Eddi|zuHause> it is the name of the river 21:44:58 <Eddi|zuHause> like Frankfurt am Main 21:45:05 <Eddi|zuHause> Halle an der Saale 21:45:12 <RichK67> Truelight ping 21:45:49 <Eddi|zuHause> that is used quite often to differentiate between towns with the same name ;) 21:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause> there's also a Halle in Westfalen 21:46:54 <Eddi|zuHause> (as well as there is a Frankfurt an der Oder) 21:47:19 <ln-> i have seen Frankfurt an der Oder from the window of the bus mentioned earlier. 21:47:45 <ln-> and ok, yeah, i didn't know Saale is the name of a river. 21:48:36 <glx> RichK67: he's gone to sleep 21:48:51 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["Changing server"] 21:50:37 <Eddi|zuHause> if my memory does not trick me (what it does quite often lately ;)), Halle is around 51.5°N/12.5°E 21:52:34 <Bjarni> Halle is in Brazil??? 21:52:45 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 21:52:58 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of coordinate system do you have? ;) 21:53:07 <Bjarni> Imperial 21:53:47 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:53:48 <Eddi|zuHause> you got something upside down ;) 21:54:05 <Bjarni> Australia then? 21:54:11 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 21:54:24 <Eddi|zuHause> brazil might be 52°W/12°S ;) 21:54:31 <Bjarni> man, I can't even fake US knowledge of the outside world without making it sound faked 21:55:12 <Bjarni> according to bash.org, at least some US guys believe that "Vanusuela" is the capital in Peru 21:55:24 <Bjarni> at least they are aware that there is a country called Peru 21:55:47 <Eddi|zuHause> but the capital of peru is lima! 21:56:06 <Eddi|zuHause> everybody who played Zak McKracken knows that ;) 21:56:06 <Bjarni> you failed the test 21:56:09 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: you're not a US citizen then 21:56:13 <Bjarni> now you can't move to the US 21:56:17 <Eddi|zuHause> which is good ;) 21:57:20 <Eddi|zuHause> the most famous place in Peru is Macchu Picchu (or written something like that ;)) though 21:57:21 *** roboman [n=Leo@c211-30-120-103.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:57:51 <Bjarni> I think you spelled it wrong though 21:57:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the Titicaca lake might be somewhere there, too 21:58:31 <Bjarni> yeah, it's spelled Machu Picchu 21:59:07 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah 21:59:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried with double double c, and double single c, and both looked awkwards ;) 22:00:04 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:00:21 <gradator> bonjour 22:00:45 <Eddi|zuHause> bonnuit rather? ;) 22:00:56 <ln-> halle @ saale is at 51°28' N 11°58' E according to google earth, i.e. quite much what eddi said above. 22:01:06 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause> i tried with double double c, and double single c, and both looked awkwards ;) <-- I take that your Incan is a bit rusty then 22:01:18 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah ;) 22:01:58 <RichK67> hmmm.... Incan OTTD - no wheels allowed ;) 22:02:18 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387C62B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:02:29 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit ["Go on, get out. Last words are for fools who haven't said enough. - Karl Marx"] 22:02:58 <Bjarni> http://www.destination360.com/peru/machu-picchu.php <-- do anybody know how they make those "3D" photos? 22:03:10 <Eddi|zuHause> reminds me of 'Conquest of the New World'... "Faktoid: the Aztechs knew the wheel, but had no use for it, so it ended up only in child's toys" 22:04:35 <Bjarni> hehe 22:04:44 <MeusH> cya dudes 22:04:49 <RichK67> id be more interested in the nazca lines ... real cool 22:04:50 <MeusH> goodnight 22:04:50 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:04:51 <Eddi|zuHause> in Incan OTTD, values must also be coded in knots ;) 22:04:59 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:05:00 <Bjarni> I have read that statement elsewhere and the source I read it from actually knew how to write in English 22:05:33 <Bjarni> RichK67: nazca lines? 22:05:46 <XeryusTC> am i correct that the tgp branch uses the old generator? 22:05:46 <Bjarni> is that related to nazgul travelling paths? 22:06:28 <Eddi|zuHause> no, the aliens built those as landing marks ;) 22:07:16 <Eddi|zuHause> everybody knows that ;) 22:07:55 <Eddi|zuHause> XeryusTC: did you even attempt to use common sense? 22:08:19 <Eddi|zuHause> or are you american, then scrap that question ;) 22:08:28 <XeryusTC> i did attempt to use it 22:08:32 <XeryusTC> and im not american 22:09:00 <RichK67> nazca lines - stones cleared away to reveal the slightly lighter sand underneath, done in pretty patterns... von daniken did a famous book on them called "highways of the gods" or something like that... nutter ;) 22:09:29 <RichK67> xeryustc: nope TGP branch is the most up to date... uses all KUDr's routines 22:09:56 <XeryusTC> it works after a recompile 22:10:43 <RichK67> ive obviously missed something here... was there a problem? 22:10:58 <Eddi|zuHause> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Nazca_colibri.jpg 22:11:14 <Eddi|zuHause> very impressive ;) 22:11:52 <RichK67> i like the spider best 22:12:22 <XeryusTC> RichK67: it used the old generator even while i enabled tgp, but a recompile did the trick somehow 22:12:52 <RichK67> its a very dry place - iirc 2" of rain per century! 22:14:09 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-213-216.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! 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