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05:21:32  <roboman> 0.4.8rc1 isnt on sf yet
05:21:50  <roboman> is the login still broken
05:27:10  <Vornicus> probably
05:27:14  <roboman> bye
05:27:19  <roboman> off on holiday
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07:21:41  <k-man> oh
07:21:48  <k-man> is there a new version coming out soon?
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07:36:50  <Vornicus> 0.4.8rc1 should be out by now but sourceforge is being whiny.
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08:09:45  <MiHaMiX> hmm
08:10:31  <MiHaMiX> how about spreading openttd-0.4.8-rc1 on bittorrent?
08:12:01  <MiHaMiX> I could seed that a lot :)
08:12:32  <tokai|noir> hmm.. RC1? since when do we release candidates? :)
08:15:39  <TheMask97> see the website...
08:18:18  <peter1138> since 0.4.6 had a stupid last minute bug
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10:40:01  <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: pong
10:40:28  <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: I like it, torrent to distribute it :)
10:41:54  <RichK67_wrk> ping
10:42:56  <TL|Away> RichK67_wrk: you already pinged me
10:43:33  <RichK67_wrk> oh right... yesterday ;)
10:43:38  <RichK67_wrk> yes, err
10:43:47  <RichK67_wrk> what was it...
10:44:03  <RichK67_wrk> build cycle for MiniIN
10:44:14  <RichK67_wrk> can we go to Mon am, Wed am, Fri am?
10:44:28  <[Shaman]> \e/
10:47:33  <Brianetta> Minty (:
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10:49:53  <[Shaman]> Brianetta: that autopilot thing you made, mind if I use that for a MiniIN server? :o
10:50:06  <Brianetta> [Shaman]: It's GPL
10:50:12  <[Shaman]> k :)
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10:54:14  <hapoM> how to remove a statue of the owner of the transport company?
10:54:28  <hapoM> I would like to build a station but a statue is on the way :P
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10:55:29  <Brianetta> hapoM: You can't
10:55:33  <Brianetta> It's permanent
10:55:53  <hapoM> is there a console command for this?
10:55:58  <Brianetta> no.
10:56:00  <hapoM> :/
10:56:16  <hapoM> isn't there even any secret command for forcing the removal? :/
10:56:29  <Brianetta> If there is, it's a secret even from me.
10:57:03  <hapoM> are you a developer? :)
10:58:44  <[Shaman]> there's cheats, but.. them are cheats.
11:00:26  <hapoM> well, I _did_ mean the cheat way of doing this :)
11:00:26  <hapoM> anything goes.
11:01:31  <[Shaman]> ctrl+alt+win+c
11:02:12  <RichK67_wrk> if you are in single player, use cheat to change to the company who owns the statue, and delete it
11:02:34  <RichK67_wrk> if in multiplayer, ask nicely ;)
11:02:40  <RichK67_wrk> pay handsomely
11:02:55  <hapoM> thanks!
11:03:11  <hapoM> however, I already found a workaround (just built the station in a little different direction so it fits)
11:03:16  <hapoM> but I'll try this anyway
11:03:59  <ln-> fortunately you can also expand your station without demolishing the existing one.
11:04:25  <hapoM> yep
11:04:43  <hapoM> but that wasn't what I meant
11:04:46  <hapoM> I needed to build another lane for the station
11:06:23  <hapoM> well, it's actually my *own* statue and I still can't remove it
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11:09:40  <hapoM> but maybe I could make the town its owner
11:10:26  <hapoM> well, now I found a solution
11:10:34  <hapoM> "Magic Bulldozer
11:10:39  <hapoM> Allows you to destroy industries and other normally unmoveable objects such as lighthouses.
11:10:39  <hapoM> Please be aware of, when leaving this option turned on, when a city grows towards a industry, it will eventually delete this industry!"
11:11:11  <hapoM> oh, well, it was visible in the menu anyway
11:11:13  <RichK67_wrk> ah!! all you needed to do in that case was increase your company rating
11:11:14  <hapoM> I just didn't notice it
11:11:24  <hapoM> before reading about it in the wiki
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11:49:57  <TinoM> http://stopit.stoplinux.net/
11:50:05  <TinoM> ups, fc ;)
11:50:30  <TinoM> but perhaps interesting for those, who are able to read german...
11:50:34  <Sacro> TinoM: auf englisch?
11:50:55  <Sacro> i can read it perfectly, i just cant interpret it
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11:52:20  <Sacro> hmm
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11:59:46  <CIA-3> belugas * r5433 /branches/newgrf_lab/ (currency.c currency.h newgrf.c settings_gui.c):
11:59:46  <CIA-3> [newgrf_lab] Remove _currency_string_list and install its data into _currency_specs.
11:59:46  <CIA-3> Use of new function BuildCurrencyDropdown to fill up dropdown,
11:59:46  <CIA-3> based on peter1138's station classname work
12:03:39  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: then .. we should set up a tracker for this purpose, shouldn't we?
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12:03:48  <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: yeah :)
12:03:52  <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: also for the nightlies :p
12:03:55  <TL|Away> hehehehehehehe
12:04:07  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: not a problem
12:04:17  <TL|Away> no, but it won't be used :p
12:04:26  <TL|Away> the current download speed for nightlies is plenty :)
12:04:41  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: ok :)
12:04:46  <TL|Away> just for releases... I hate SF
12:04:58  <TL|Away> but he, it is free bandwidth
12:05:06  <TL|Away> but for that a torrent might be useful
12:05:18  <TL|Away> install it once for a release, and make it log the downloads :)
12:05:22  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: well, but if we're unable to announce our release on SF, we can't profit from their service
12:05:31  <TL|Away> true true
12:05:36  <TL|Away> and I aint going to host a release of OpenTTD :)
12:05:45  <TL|Away> I can handle traffic, but not that kind :p
12:05:58  <TL|Away> you might be able to do it, via normal HTTP
12:06:03  <TL|Away> but torrent is just nicer :)
12:06:04  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: well, I'm seriously thinking about this torrent thingie
12:06:12  <TL|Away> so set it up
12:06:30  <TL|Away> but please make sure you also install a thingy that keeps track of the amount of downloads (inside torrent, so not the torrent file :p)
12:06:36  <TL|Away> so we can track the amount of downloads
12:06:36  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: I've seeded ~4TB from kubuntu-6.06-i386-dvd.iso in the last 2.5 weeks :)
12:07:01  <TL|Away> :) Remember there is a difference in seeding a file, and hosting the torrent :)
12:07:15  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: of course
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12:07:41  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: hosting a .torrent file cost you less network bandwidth :D
12:07:50  <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: so I want to do that :p
12:07:53  <TL|Away> then you seed it :)
12:08:04  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: ok, then set up a tracker
12:08:13  <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: shall we continue this in PM
12:08:14  <TL|Away> yeah, if I knew software for that :p
12:08:18  <TL|Away> let's do that :)
12:08:37  <Sacro> you want a tracker for 0.4.8RC1?
12:08:53  <Sacro> or are you rewriting the network code...
12:09:47  <TL|Away> please, not an other network code rewrite... it is fine as it is :)
12:10:02  <Sacro> hehe
12:10:20  <Sacro> what linux binaries have been done? im in the mood for installing various distros and creating some
12:10:21  <peter1138> but it doesn't predict!
12:10:24  <peter1138> or resync!
12:10:26  <peter1138> omg
12:10:50  * Sacro sits back and watches the sexy female students walk past
12:10:56  <Sacro> IP camera is available on request
12:11:31  <valhallasw> gimme! :+
12:12:23  <Sacro> valhallasw: hehe :P
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12:34:59  <hapoM> I would like to improve the localization engine of OpenTTD.
12:35:07  <hapoM> is it coded on C or C++?
12:35:21  <hapoM> *in
12:36:19  <hapoM> there are a couple of features that need to be added so that the Finnish in the game is better
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12:37:49  <black_Nightmare> what key was it that you pressed to get landscaping estimaste?
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12:39:05  <hapoM> shift
12:39:16  <black_Nightmare> ty
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12:52:29  <black_Nightmare> sorry..2nd question :P
12:52:45  <black_Nightmare> how accurate is the estimaste cost for when flattening water into land?
12:53:20  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: what do you want?
12:53:38  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: i'm the translator coordinator, maybe you'd like to talk to me first
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12:54:36  <hapoM> MiHaMiX: some inflection of words (finland is quite tricky with that and adding some intelligence to the engine makes the UI language look more natural) and then some more strings for different cargo types
12:54:43  <hapoM> "Pedington (Hiilikaivos) tuottaa Kivihiiltä" doesn't look good
12:54:50  <hapoM> it should be "Pedington (Hiilikaivos) tuottaa kivihiiltä"
12:54:55  <hapoM> with a lowecase i
12:54:57  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: in PM, please
12:55:23  <hapoM> I'm not an OpenTTD translator, but because the latter thing is also visible in the swedish version, I presume it's a limitation in the l10n engine
12:55:25  <hapoM> ok
12:55:59  <hapoM> well, in a couple of days -- I'm on GPRS at the moment
12:56:09  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: L10N engine supports cases and parameter reordering
12:56:16  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: and genders and plural forms
12:56:17  <hapoM> and getting my freenode nickserv password with SSH is too much of a pain in the neck
12:56:24  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: what else do you need?
12:56:39  <hapoM> in freenode you can't PM without being registered
12:56:54  <MiHaMiX> ahh, that's true
12:57:02  <MiHaMiX> hapoM: come to #openttd.wt2 in this case
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12:57:43  <hapoM> MiHaMiX: ok
12:57:45  <MiHaMiX> Brianetta: hi
12:57:56  <Brianetta> (:
12:59:12  <valhallasw> hello Brianetta
12:59:19  <lws1984> howdy indeed
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13:26:16  <k-man> hello
13:26:35  <k-man> is there a keyboard shortcut to toggle between full screen and windowed?
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13:39:33  <Sacro> k-man: alt+enter
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13:56:59  <peter1138> as always, heh
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14:04:13  <Brianetta> (:
14:04:44  <Brianetta> Should I release my new IRC bridge autopilot, or should I just wait until somebody asks for a copy?
14:06:55  <Sacro> Brianetta: please can i have a copyu
14:07:31  <Brianetta> Sacro: You can, later - right now I have some SSL certificate generation to do
14:07:40  <Brianetta> remind me tonight
14:07:48  <Sacro> Brianetta: bah
14:08:02  <Sacro> ooh, question, you know how to set up evolution with a local Maildir?
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14:08:13  <Brianetta> yes
14:08:38  <Sacro> :P
14:08:44  <Sacro> its asking for a configuration file, which one?
14:09:03  <Brianetta> It's asking for what?
14:09:09  <Brianetta> I don't know what you've done there
14:09:54  <Sacro> hmm
14:10:06  <Sacro> i got fetchmail bringing it in to /home/ben/Maildir
14:10:13  <Sacro> and i want to view it using evolution
14:10:31  <Brianetta> OK
14:10:33  <Brianetta> make a new account
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14:10:39  <Brianetta> choos type "local maildir"
14:10:46  <Brianetta> select the maildir
14:11:10  <Sacro> yeah, thats what ive done
14:14:04  <Sacro> now to figure how to add a crontab...
14:14:11  <Sacro> think its using either emacs or vim
14:14:46  <Sacro> hmm, i know :wq is to quit, but how do i save and quit?
14:15:29  <Eddi|zuHause> w stands for write (save) and q stands for quit
14:15:39  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: danke, and which editor am i in?
14:15:54  <Eddi|zuHause> vim, i think
14:15:57  <Sacro> whoo, 2 crontabs
14:17:57  <Sacro>  now...mutt or pine
14:18:29  <Sacro> pine is easier to type
14:19:57  <Sacro> hmm, but it doesnt seem to see my Maildir
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14:45:16  <Brianetta> that's vim
14:45:20  <Brianetta> :wq = save and quit
14:45:23  <Brianetta> :q = quit
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15:04:16  <MeusH> ello
15:05:01  <_bitwise> heya MeusH
15:05:43  <_bitwise> best practice for installing a nightly build:  Remove existing installations completely before hand and back up save games.. or can I safely install to a different folder?
15:07:00  <Eddi|zuHause> you can easily have different installations in different folders
15:07:07  <_bitwise> spiffy
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15:14:59  <Oak_> Is it possible to make that 0.4.8-rc1 up now? SF logins and all work
15:16:05  <[Shaman]> be patient young padawan
15:16:41  <Oak_> :P
15:28:35  * Brianetta sets his PSP playing the TTD music
15:29:45  <guru3> woo ttd
15:30:33  <Brianetta> now playing gm_tt01.gm.mp3
15:30:37  <Brianetta> um...
15:30:43  <Brianetta> I wish I'd set the id3 tags
15:30:49  <guru3> lol
15:31:02  <guru3> you mean to say you don't have it memorized? :O
15:31:11  <Brianetta> I can recognise some
15:31:18  <Brianetta> like "Fell apart on me"
15:31:24  <Brianetta> but not all
15:31:28  <guru3> they are classics eh
15:31:49  <Brianetta> Every note drummed into my head form 11 years of play
15:31:58  <guru3> ><
15:32:21  <Brianetta> I sometimes consider playing it aloud on a real train
15:32:23  <Eddi|zuHause> i turned off that music a long time ago
15:32:31  <Brianetta> See who recognises it and starts upa conversation
15:32:41  <Brianetta> Eddi: Philistine (:
15:32:42  <guru3> lol
15:33:08  <Eddi|zuHause> bad midi instruments get very annoying after the first couple thousand times listening ;)
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15:33:44  <guru3> lol
15:34:39  <Eddi|zuHause> besides, not all of the songs were actually good ;)
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15:37:30  <Brianetta> Bad midi instruments?
15:37:40  <Brianetta> You have a bad midi synth, is all
15:42:33  <Brianetta> 1
15:42:41  <guru3> 2
15:42:55  <scia> 3
15:44:53  <glx> 4
15:52:14  <peter1138> someone buy me a CME UF8
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17:29:19  <Ihmemies> i wondered why i always eat something like noodles and fish sticks..
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17:29:55  <Ihmemies> now i decided i want something better :D so i managed to cook potatoes, vegetables and make wienersauce.. : http://www.kotiposti.net/ihmemies/roina/safkaa.jpg \o/
17:29:58  <Ihmemies> a lot better
17:30:09  <Sacro> hmm, its like being in #tycoon
17:30:14  <Ihmemies> some kind of steak would have been better...
17:30:18  <Ihmemies> but i didn't have any :P
17:30:24  <Sacro> that looks quite tasty
17:30:53  <Ihmemies> it's pretty boring to do food alone :/
17:30:59  <Sacro> yeah, i know
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17:37:05  <Wolf01> yo
17:37:48  <Sacro> Wolf01: yo
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17:52:34  <Sacro> anyone can tell me how to tell evolution not to show the "On this computer" tab?
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17:56:03  <hylje> rm -rf /etc/
17:56:13  <Sacro> hylje: hehehe
17:56:16  <Sacro> i cant, i aint root
17:56:21  <hylje> :]
17:56:35  <Sacro> now, can i share my address book between evolution, pine, anything external...
17:56:47  <Sacro> and i need to do sendmail i think too
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18:02:07  <hylje> wow
18:02:13  <hylje> quite nicely updating
18:02:21  <hylje> compiles just the changes :o
18:06:48  <CIA-3> miham * r5434 /trunk/lang/ (norwegian.txt portuguese.txt):
18:06:48  <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-06-30 20:06:30
18:06:48  <CIA-3> norwegian - 7 fixed by oletk (7)
18:06:48  <CIA-3> portuguese - 1 fixed by izhirahider (1)
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18:09:54  <izhirahider> yay!
18:10:19  <Sacro> hehe
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18:40:42  <Wolf01> sacro, ping
18:41:15  <Sacro> Wolf01: pong
18:41:48  <Wolf01> i fixed a little the running costs for the day length patch
18:41:53  <Sacro> whoo :)
18:42:29  <Wolf01> a little, don't be so happy until i fixed the most
18:42:57  <Wolf01> (i or who want to help me, because now i'm n00b)
18:43:14  <Sacro> :P im n00bi5h too
18:46:06  <hylje> hmm i dont seem to be able to load newgrfs
18:47:27  <Wolf01> ok, cubic explorer is a l33t way to handle windows when i have to move between source folder and build folder
18:49:05  <Wolf01> http://www.cubicreality.com/index.php?id=13,0,0,1,0,0 i really like it
18:49:52  <Sacro> its so like...konqueror
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18:57:42  * MeusH \o/ now watching: top gear
19:08:32  <Sacro> MeusH: top gear is ace
19:10:04  <MeusH> it's so 313373 :)
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19:20:36  <Sacro> t3h r0xx3r5
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19:21:41  <Sacro> damnit, i just realised im a linux user
19:21:56  <Sacro> haveing setup procmail, fetchmail, and recompiling pine to work with Maildir
19:22:11  * Sacro looks up his local LUG
19:23:06  <Sacro> hmm, the next meeting is on the 9th of april
19:29:18  <peter1138> heh
19:31:18  <Sacro> i just joined the irc channel, 291 people on the server, and i was an Op
19:40:24  <Sacro> grrrr, and they dont accept all tlds
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19:52:51  <Rens2Sea> is there any cheat/console command to increase a town rating?
19:52:56  <Rens2Sea> this town is pissing me off :/
19:53:02  <peter1138> well, you can bribe it
19:53:09  <peter1138> from the town menu
19:53:24  <Rens2Sea> not if you've been caught :/
19:53:32  <peter1138> heheh
19:53:42  * Sacro gets caught all the time
19:53:58  <Rens2Sea> and the town already is in the middle of a massive forrest
19:54:04  <Rens2Sea> so there is no more room for even more trees
19:54:20  <Wolf01> SetDParam(3, _price.aircraft_running * AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) * _patches.day_length -> running_cost >> 8);
19:54:20  <Wolf01> somebody can tell me where is the error?
19:55:39  <Wolf01> here is the compile log:
19:55:39  <Wolf01> aircraft_gui.c: In function `AircraftDetailsWndProc':
19:55:39  <Wolf01> aircraft_gui.c:348: error: invalid operands to binary *
19:55:39  <Wolf01> aircraft_gui.c:348: error: invalid type argument of `->'
19:55:46  <MeusH> try using brackets
19:55:48  <MeusH> more ()
19:55:54  <MeusH> then try again
19:56:02  <MeusH> dunno, sometimes it works
19:56:02  <Sacro> ye gads
19:56:12  <Sacro> MeusH: i think it could be
19:56:26  <Sacro> i have no idea in which order that would run
19:58:22  <Wolf01> uhm, no, i found it: SetDParam(3, _price.aircraft_running * _patches.day_length * AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) -> running_cost >> 8);
19:58:42  <Sacro> Wolf01: yeah...still use brackets though
19:58:56  <Sacro> cos some compilers may get confused
19:59:17  <Wolf01> ok
19:59:31  <Wolf01> i'll put brackets
19:59:56  <Wolf01> now vehicles infos shows the correct running costs
20:01:07  <MeusH> yeah, brackets are even better for you than compilers
20:01:29  <MeusH> _patches.day_length -> running_cost is a result of confusion resulting of no brackets
20:02:22  <Wolf01> no, in the aircraft_gui.c the arguments of that functions are sorted in a different way
20:02:33  <Wolf01> *-s
20:02:56  <Wolf01> SetDParam(3, _price.aircraft_running * _patches.day_length * AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) -> running_cost >> 8);
20:02:56  <Wolf01> SetDParam(3, RoadVehInfo(v->engine_type)->running_cost * _price.roadveh_running * _patches.day_length >> 8);
20:03:16  <Wolf01> you can see the difference
20:03:36  <Wolf01> and i got confused
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20:12:47  <Sacro> Wolf01: errm, please put some brackets around that
20:13:07  <Wolf01> i'll put brackets on it anyway
20:13:16  <Sacro> cos from what i can see youve gone from A*B*C >> 8
20:13:40  <Sacro> to B*C*A >> 8
20:13:46  <Sacro> and from Aircraft to Road
20:14:52  <Wolf01> was C*A->B >> 8 and i changed to C*A*D->B >> 8
20:15:19  <Wolf01> instead of A->B*C*D >>8
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20:16:18  <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5435 /trunk/water_cmd.c: Fix (r5406): Make sure sea-level canals below bridge tiles don't flood.
20:16:26  <Wolf01> A) SetDParam(3, (AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) -> running_cost * _price.aircraft_running * _patches.day_length) >> 8);
20:16:27  <Wolf01> B) SetDParam(3, (AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) -> running_cost) * _price.aircraft_running * _patches.day_length >> 8);
20:16:27  <Wolf01> SetDParam(3, ((AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) -> running_cost) * _price.aircraft_running * _patches.day_length) >> 8);
20:16:27  <Wolf01> what is the correct form? A|B|C?
20:16:53  <Wolf01> (i forget the C) tag)
20:17:07  <peter1138> it's a multiplication...
20:17:12  <peter1138> the order doesn't matter
20:17:19  <peter1138> but don't put spaces around ->
20:17:36  <peter1138> to me that suggests AircraftVehInfo(v->engine_type) turns into running_cost, heh
20:20:31  <Wolf01> i don't know well the order, A->B*C>>D is like what?
20:21:51  <toweri> First the member access (A->B), then multiplication, then shift.
20:21:56  <glx> A->B*C>>D == ((A->B)*C)>>D
20:22:06  <Wolf01> ok, thanks
20:22:32  <peter1138> does it?
20:22:45  <peter1138> A->B * (C >> D) would give different results, heh
20:24:27  <peter1138> (depending on the values)
20:24:34  <peter1138> 10 * (4 >> 3) == 0
20:24:39  <peter1138> (10 * 4) >> 3 == 5
20:25:20  <peter1138> i think * has precedence, but i can never remember
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20:28:25  <Rens2Sea> dmy iron ore trains don't get any iron ore O_o
20:28:26  <ln-> bitshifting \o/
20:28:32  <Rens2Sea> fix!
20:28:54  <Rens2Sea> hmm
20:29:16  <Rens2Sea> could it be that the iron ore mine is the property of a different city then the station?
20:30:00  <ln-> 'than', not 'then'
20:30:18  <Rens2Sea> blow me
20:32:24  <Rens2Sea> yup, that's it
20:32:53  <Eddi|zuHause> that usually does not matter
20:33:06  <Eddi|zuHause> only matters if it is in the station's coverage area
20:33:30  <Rens2Sea> it does matter apparently
20:34:14  <Eddi|zuHause> if you are sure, and can reproduce the behaviour, file a bug report ;)
20:34:55  <Rens2Sea> i probably should
20:35:33  <Wolf01> ok, fixed also the wait_oneway/twoway_signal
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20:57:33  <Belugas_Gone> night all
20:57:58  <MeusH> hey Belugas
20:58:01  <Wolf01> 'night Belugas_Gone
20:58:01  <MeusH> cya dude
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21:01:08  <Sacro> hmm, suse enterprise RC3
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21:03:38  <Wolf01> sacro, i released the bugfix for daylength, not all bugs are fixed because i don't know where to look for, but i fixed running costs, signal wait time and interest rate
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21:04:08  <Sacro> whoo :)
21:04:14  <Sacro> Wolf01: what else needs fixing?
21:04:33  <Wolf01> i think some economy things like "other"
21:06:14  <Sacro> hmm, im not sure what goes into "other"
21:06:16  <Wolf01> and see if the whole economy is balanced between 1x and 32x, so you won't be able to cheat by changing the daylength
21:06:26  <Sacro> ah yes
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21:08:29  <Wolf01> because is like to play on fast forward and the costs are the same of normal time
21:08:50  <Wolf01> but i think i fixed the most
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21:19:25  <peter1138> fast forward is different
21:19:30  <peter1138> it just takes the delays out
21:21:12  <Wolf01> i know, but think a fast forward which forgets to take some delays out
21:22:46  <peter1138> ...?
21:22:58  <Wolf01> that is the daylength patch
21:23:22  <Sacro> yeah
21:23:52  <Wolf01> uhm, you reminded me to add a slow forward like ttdpatch one
21:24:58  <Wolf01> it's usefull for see quick changes at slow speed
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21:28:01  <Wolf01> ah i noticed a bug on patches configuration, if you hold the shift when clicking on the buttons you get "estimated cost: 0$"
21:28:40  <peter1138> sort of
21:28:47  <peter1138> shift always estimates the cost of a command
21:28:53  <peter1138> even that command is changing a patch setting
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21:30:17  * Wolf01 thinks if should be possible to make patches which have a cost :P
21:31:04  <Sacro> yeah
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21:36:12  <peter1138> heh
21:37:39  <MeusH> cya
21:37:40  <MeusH> goodnight
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21:58:41  <k-man> is it possible that a factory would stop accepting rubber?
21:59:00  <Sacro> k-man: i wouldnt think so
21:59:05  <k-man> i swear it accepted rubber before, but now itdoesn't and all my rubber is accumulating at the station
21:59:17  <Sacro> hmm
21:59:18  <k-man> strange
21:59:21  <Sacro> the station shouldnt change either
21:59:25  <Sacro> post the save on the forum
21:59:33  <k-man> really?
21:59:35  <k-man> hmmm
21:59:46  <k-man> i'll have to check back older saves
22:01:15  <k-man> ah, it was my mistake
22:01:23  <k-man> it was a factory near where i was looking
22:01:29  <k-man> and i forgot to hook it up
22:01:31  <k-man> to the network
22:01:34  <k-man> and it closed
22:01:36  <k-man> *sigh*
22:02:31  <Sacro> got over 700k? then rebuld it
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22:03:40  <init> Anyone knows what "Advanced town handling" in MiniIN means?
22:04:07  <k-man> sacro, no, unfortunately, i don't
22:06:43  <init> And by the way, can I turn off snow in the temperate climate in MiniIN?
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22:08:19  <Sacro> init: not sure
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22:11:48  <glx> init: I think it's disabled if you set the snow limit to 15 or more
22:12:35  <init> glx: I cannot set the snow limit to more than 13
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23:02:20  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:53:16  <Sacro> Intel® Pentium® D Extreme Edition Processor 965 (3.73GHz, 1066MHz fsb, 2x2MB cache) [add £846.00]
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23:54:31  <Sacro> ah yes, 000A is a newline
23:54:46  <hylje> you can get an high-end opteron or two for one such proc
23:55:25  <Sacro> im going to see if i can suck up to my dad, cos hes not only bought a new house with what was his gf, hes today announced hes engaged
23:55:50  <Sacro> sooooo...im looking at either a dell XPS or an alienware machien
23:57:01  <Triffid_Hunter> Sacro: buy the parts and assemble yourself.. you almost always get a much better machine for the same price that way
23:58:54  <Sacro> Triffid_Hunter: yes, i know, i was just wondering what to aim for, spec wise, the last new pc i had was a P120
23:59:03  <Triffid_Hunter> heh
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23:59:07  <Triffid_Hunter> depends on your budget
23:59:11  <Triffid_Hunter> and your primary use
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23:59:19  <Sacro> and i was upset then cos their was a 133 next to it, and my dad said "you'll never need that 13MHz"
23:59:39  <Sacro> well, it'll run a Linux server at times, for doing website development on
23:59:47  <Sacro> but mainly, i'd like to play games on it

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