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00:00:50 <Sacro> and im totally confused by the mass of different cpu/ram speeds/graphics cards :( 00:01:19 <Triffid_Hunter> mainly games eh? 00:01:42 <Triffid_Hunter> well you'll be able to get a cheaper cpu and put that money into a better graphics card.. games don't need stupendously fast cpus 00:01:55 <Sacro> well, no, id like something that i can use for doing websites 00:01:57 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 00:02:08 <Sacro> eclipse doesnt run nicely on a 14/15 inch laptop :( 00:02:33 <Triffid_Hunter> lol you can make websites still on that ole p-120, so i doubt a brand new machine would have any problems at all 00:02:44 <Triffid_Hunter> whether or not its designed for gaming ;) 00:02:55 <Sacro> hmm, thats true, win95 does have its good points 00:03:09 <Sacro> im hoping to start open university in september, learning java 00:03:13 <Triffid_Hunter> i said nothing about OS ;) 00:03:18 <Sacro> so i'd like to be able to run Eclipse 00:03:23 <Sacro> hehe, thats true 00:03:41 <Triffid_Hunter> i recommend an nforce motherboard, pci express, nvidia gpu, at least 160gb of storage 00:03:52 <Triffid_Hunter> go for the best you can put together for the amount of money you're allowed to spend 00:04:15 <Sacro> hmm, i was hoping to get a £200ish granty 00:04:25 <Sacro> and then some birthday money, and tell em its for work 00:04:34 <Triffid_Hunter> when buying a motherboard, I went for the one that most sites were using to test athlon xp overclocking abilities, since if it overclocks well, it should be rock solid stable at stock speeds ;) 00:04:47 <Sacro> true 00:04:51 <Sacro> i was thinking about SLI 00:05:17 <Triffid_Hunter> it had all the options too, which lets me peg my cpu at 1.875v so it can overclock to 166x13 during heavy load 00:05:19 <Sacro> maybe athlon 64 939 3200+ 00:05:29 <Triffid_Hunter> SLI is expensive because you need two graphics cards 00:05:38 <Triffid_Hunter> yeah 3200+ should be more than enough 00:06:05 <Sacro> hmm, so whats a socket 940, and AM2 00:06:25 <Triffid_Hunter> even my old 2400+ still keeps up with everything nicely, and our p3-900 media pc runs dvds and quake3 just fine 00:06:57 <Triffid_Hunter> Sacro: remember that if the manufacturers keep changing sockets like they have been lately, you'll have no upgrade path 00:07:08 <Sacro> well this laptop is a 2.4GHz P4, but its only got 512MB RAM, and i think 64 goes to the graphics 00:07:25 <Sacro> yeah, i know, my current desktop is a socket A 00:07:29 <Sacro> 2100 palamino 00:07:37 <Triffid_Hunter> mine's a tbred-b 00:07:49 <Sacro> absolutly nowhere more it can go, its only 2100 DDR i think 00:08:15 <Triffid_Hunter> would make a good htpc 00:08:23 <Sacro> i think it was the asus A8N-sli 00:08:27 <Sacro> i was looking at, htpc? 00:08:36 <Triffid_Hunter> htpc = home theater pc 00:08:46 <Sacro> ah, yeah it would 00:09:19 <Sacro> i'd love to shove centos on it, and have it as a permenent ftp/samba/mail/apache/media pc 00:09:35 <Triffid_Hunter> centos eh.. that's redhat based isn't it? 00:09:42 <hylje> yes 00:10:17 <Sacro> yep, either that or Fedora Core 6 00:10:34 <Triffid_Hunter> i'd go with gentoo, but a linux box is always a great idea :) 00:10:46 <hylje> gentoo ftw :> 00:11:01 <Triffid_Hunter> what's this ftw i keep seeing everywhere actually mean? 00:11:03 <Sacro> nah, if i was gonna self-compile, it'd probably be lfs 00:11:05 <Sacro> for the win 00:11:17 <Sacro> wtf is an AthlonT 00:11:33 <Triffid_Hunter> yeah I turned a debian box into an lfs box before realising i should have run gentoo the whole time 00:11:48 <Sacro> debian scared me 00:12:04 <Sacro> is it wrong that i see AGP 8x, and think bah, should get PCI-E 00:12:07 <Triffid_Hunter> it broke and argued too often for me 00:12:27 <Triffid_Hunter> Sacro: depends on your budget.. pci express gpus are cheaper here than their agp counterparts 00:12:37 <Triffid_Hunter> but the motherboards are more expensive 00:12:40 <Sacro> Triffid_Hunter: but i thought PCI-E is better? 00:12:41 <Sacro> ahh 00:12:58 <Triffid_Hunter> it is 00:12:59 <hylje> pci-e is better 00:13:03 <Sacro> i'd love an Alienware ALX 00:13:07 <hylje> it stretches to 16x while agp caps at 8x 00:13:23 <Sacro> from 3 grand though 00:13:34 *** Osai^zZz [n=Osai@p54B36422.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:14:41 <Sacro> do intel do 64bit now? 00:17:23 <Sacro> £29 :| for a modem 00:18:00 <Triffid_Hunter> Sacro: yep.. em64t is their code for 64 bit support compatible with amd64 00:18:11 <Triffid_Hunter> looks like no-one cares about ia64 which is their other 64 bit effort 00:18:57 <Sacro> hmm 00:19:07 <Sacro> where to shop for pc parts then... 00:19:08 <hylje> ye 00:19:16 <hylje> itanium bombed, they call it itanic 00:19:22 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-212-162.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 00:23:07 <Sacro> hmm, i dont particularly fancy going with intel, they seem to cost more 00:23:14 <Triffid_Hunter> yep 00:23:30 <Sacro> soooo... i need help to choose :( 00:23:30 <Triffid_Hunter> i've found amd+nvidia chipset+nvidia gpu is a winning combo 00:23:40 <Sacro> yeah 00:23:54 <Sacro> whats AM2 for then? 00:24:02 <Triffid_Hunter> ddr2 ram 00:24:10 <Triffid_Hunter> no other discernible difference 00:24:22 <Sacro> oh, not a diff cpu then? 00:24:46 <Triffid_Hunter> well, the memory controller is on-die nowadays so the cpu is slightly different.. not where it counts though 00:25:06 <Sacro> ah right 00:25:19 <Triffid_Hunter> ddr2 ram is slower than ddr1, more handshaking or something.. only time will tell if it's more scalable 00:25:20 <Sacro> well what make motherboard... so many to choose, Asus, Abit, DFI 00:26:00 <Triffid_Hunter> Sacro: my epox board is great, and i've had many good experiences with albatron lately.. i've never seen an MSI or jetway board that actually worked in my life 00:26:07 <Sacro> Processor - 1 x AMD Athlon 64 3500+ / 2.2 GHz - Socket 939 - L2 512 KB - Box for £80 seems decent 00:26:12 <Triffid_Hunter> i'm told asus isn't bad 00:26:20 <Sacro> ive sold MSI and jetway, never used em 00:26:21 <Triffid_Hunter> yep 00:26:29 <Sacro> ive used Asus, Abit, and Gigibit before 00:26:36 <Triffid_Hunter> what's the ambient temperature in summer like in your country? 00:26:44 <Sacro> errrr...varies 00:26:47 <Triffid_Hunter> if its more than 30c or so, i'd suggest getting a better hsf than the stock one 00:26:52 <Sacro> 19 at the moment 00:27:02 <Sacro> doesnt normally get that high 00:27:15 <Triffid_Hunter> i got a coolermaster aero 7+.. works great :D 00:27:21 <Sacro> but yeah, ill probably get a decent hsf anywya 00:27:50 <Triffid_Hunter> the single piece copper skived heatsink is what really sold me, but the blower is great too 00:28:03 <Sacro> opteron == server chip? 00:28:29 <Triffid_Hunter> yep 00:28:45 <Sacro> right, so, we have a cpu... :) 00:29:19 <Sacro> :o 400GB hard drive 00:29:40 <Sacro> hmm, 200 for 52, Maxtor 00:29:48 <Triffid_Hunter> don't buy maxtor 00:30:02 <Triffid_Hunter> get seagate or western digital 00:30:18 <Sacro> ive always bought maxtor. whats better about seagate or WD? 00:30:21 <Triffid_Hunter> of all the drives i've seen, maxtor has the highest failure rate 00:30:26 *** UnderBuilder [i=SLaY3r@168.226.107.204] has joined #openttd 00:30:35 <Sacro> hmm, thats true 00:30:56 <Triffid_Hunter> i've seen two that lasted beyond 6 months, and many dozens that didn't make it to 3 00:31:14 <Sacro> mines been going for 4 years 00:31:23 <Sacro> i got 2x80Gb 00:31:41 <Triffid_Hunter> ah, from just after they took over quantum 00:32:08 <Sacro> yeah, think so 00:34:23 <Sacro> hmm, sata ii 00:34:45 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Lag"] 00:39:46 *** init [n=init@c83-250-153-195.bredband.comhem.se] has quit ["leaving"] 00:41:26 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:45:35 *** Klanticus [n=Klanticu@200-171-19-111.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:47:19 <Sacro> hmm, so whats crossfirethen 00:49:19 *** Klanticus [n=Klanticu@200-171-19-111.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:49:24 <hylje> ati's try at SLi 00:49:34 <Sacro> good? oder night good? 00:49:50 <hylje> dunno 00:50:35 <Sacro> nah, ill stick to SLi 00:50:57 <Sacro> soo, talking 80 for cpu, 60 for hard drive 00:51:18 <Sacro> grahics card range is huge :/ 00:57:32 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Athlon_arch.png now to build a fab 01:01:02 <hylje> you better have some blueprints too 01:01:32 *** UnderBuilder [i=SLaY3r@168.226.107.204] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- State of the art IRC"] 01:04:33 <Sacro> hylje: isnt that enough? hmm 01:04:40 <Sacro> what grahpics card do i go for, so much choice 01:04:48 <Sacro> id like PCI-E, possibly 2 in SLI 01:06:45 <ln-> the channel is now closed for tonight. welcome back tomorrow. 01:07:16 <ln-> please keep your luggage with you at all times. 01:09:35 <Sacro> :o 01:09:38 <Sacro> lies 01:11:35 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:12:10 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:15:53 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 01:28:58 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:01:14 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 02:09:31 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-227-66.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:11:59 *** Spoco [i=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 02:18:17 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 02:18:24 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:24:34 *** guru3_ [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 02:25:18 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:32:21 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 02:42:46 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-105-29.adsl.snet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:43:25 *** Vornicus [n=vorn@64-252-105-29.adsl.snet.net] has joined #openttd 02:58:58 * Vornicus downloads the latest mini_in for osx/powerpc, finds it has a strange performance problem. 03:00:08 <Vornicus> Specifically it hangs briefly every few seconds. 03:13:16 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:16:15 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 03:22:36 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:38:00 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:46:49 *** DJFire [n=DJFire@70.177.23.173] has joined #openttd 03:48:57 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has quit ["Go on, get out. 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:) 06:29:18 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:29:42 <Vornicus> You know, I'm not really sure. 06:29:48 <Vornicus> I don't speak any of those languages... 06:30:42 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 06:33:27 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 06:33:47 <MiHaMiX> ok, latvian is now internal, which means that no longer updated by WT2 (since has no translator for the language) 06:35:34 *** Trenskow [n=kristian@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:37:18 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["In a drunken stupor..."] 06:38:49 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 06:41:52 *** Trenskow [n=kristian@85.218.142.227] has quit ["leaving"] 06:46:31 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:48:07 *** Qball [n=qball@ipd50a4125.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 06:51:17 <MiHaMiX> Qball: hi 06:56:45 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 06:58:01 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["iThought.dk"] 07:03:46 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 07:04:57 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:06:49 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 07:06:56 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 07:08:04 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 07:22:07 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-59-224.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 07:23:28 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 07:29:12 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:30:37 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 07:30:54 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:33:04 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Client Quit] 07:40:07 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 07:45:31 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83728.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:49:20 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 07:50:05 *** sway_ [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 07:51:11 *** sway_ [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:54:06 *** Osai^2_ [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:56:10 *** Osai^2_ is now known as Osai 07:58:02 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 07:59:49 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82510.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:00:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:28 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B82510.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:10:23 *** th_gergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:10:57 *** th_gergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 08:11:16 *** thgergo [n=thgergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:11:41 *** thgergo [n=thgergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 08:12:29 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 08:16:27 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:17:44 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B7648E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:18:07 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83728.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:18:37 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 08:19:16 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B83728.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:37:56 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:38:11 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387DBA6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:40:57 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:41:58 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 08:48:32 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 08:56:38 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 09:01:08 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has joined #OpenTTD 09:01:28 <Wolf01> hi all 09:01:43 <TL|Away> hi 09:01:48 <TL|Away> whoho, 104 pacakges to install X11 :) 09:02:03 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 09:05:35 *** jnmbk [n=a@85.96.41.165] has joined #openttd 09:06:05 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:09:45 <jnmbk> what happened to 0.4.8 rc1? logins are enabled in sourceforge... 09:11:31 <[Shaman]> sf is gay anyways. 09:14:02 <TL|Away> yup 09:15:37 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 09:21:15 <MiHaMiX> jnmbk: will be uploaded soon 09:23:59 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 09:24:35 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:24:38 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:37:31 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 09:37:45 <MeusH> hi 09:37:52 <Wolf01> hey MeusH 09:38:00 <MeusH> what happened to #openttd.gpmi? 09:38:13 <MeusH> only TL|Away is there, and I can't write there 09:38:19 <MeusH> some bug or something 09:38:25 <TL|Away> +m on the channel 09:38:29 <TL|Away> you might want to read the topic 09:39:15 <MeusH> okay, thanks 09:39:33 <MeusH> excuse me, but I rarely read topics... 09:39:33 <TL|Away> :) 09:39:38 <TL|Away> that isn't my problem :) 09:40:24 <TL|Away> but #openttd.gpmi is moved to an other IRC network, FreeNode starts to suck more and more and more 09:40:35 <TL|Away> (most of all, lilo is driving me crazy with his 'good intentions blabla' 09:42:40 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B832D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:43:56 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 09:44:01 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 09:45:31 <[Shaman]> gpmi? :o 09:47:06 <TL|Away> yes, a library that makes programs somewhat more dynamic ;) 09:47:11 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B832D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:47:51 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 09:48:09 <MeusH> TL|Away: do you have some OpenTTD.gpmi binaries so I can i.e. see your progress? 09:48:32 <TL|Away> MeusH: We have a version that is no longer supported (based on 0.4.5) that allows custom AIs 09:48:51 <TL|Away> and currently Rubidium and glx are starting from scratch, Rubidium has some pictures, but nothing playable yet 09:49:07 <MeusH> and now, what are you doing? dividing OpenTTD code into separate modules? 09:49:24 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:29 <TL|Away> me myself am doing nothing TT related (game-wise) 09:49:38 <TL|Away> I have too many other shit :( 09:49:52 <MeusH> allright, a pity 09:49:54 <TL|Away> But I believe the plan is to build everything up from scratch, and in small and logic modules/parts 09:49:58 <MeusH> I wish you more free time :) 09:50:05 <TL|Away> :) Tnx! 09:50:13 <TL|Away> pay me 1000 dollar a month, and I will :p 09:50:16 <MeusH> without all TT legacy (aka limitations)? 09:50:17 <TL|Away> (yeah, I am that cheap :p) 09:50:36 <TL|Away> MeusH: limitations should be gone, anyway, moved ahead far more, yes 09:50:49 <TL|Away> and the main game will most likely be very different, even from OpenTTD 09:50:58 <TL|Away> but I always suggested to make modules and packages that give the old touch and feel back 09:51:09 <MeusH> what do you mean? Gameplay- or graphic wise? 09:51:16 <TL|Away> so, a collection of TT modules and packages and graphics and everything 09:51:20 <TL|Away> so that it feels and acts like TT did 09:51:21 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:51:23 <TL|Away> with all his stupid things 09:51:43 <TL|Away> but currnetly I guess they will write it to be a bit better ;) 09:51:44 <TL|Away> hehe 09:51:52 <MeusH> how will OpenTTD.gpmi be different? 09:52:17 <TL|Away> browse around in... and I have to guess this URL, because X11 is upgrading, so I don't have any browser or anything: http://www.libgpmi.org/openttd/links.html 09:52:46 <TL|Away> for example, trams, elrails and all that kind of stuff will be just an other type, adding them will be really easy 09:53:01 <TL|Away> busses will be smarter in path finding 09:53:11 <TL|Away> towns will have different kind of growing sets 09:53:17 <TL|Away> (so one truely grows different then the other) 09:53:23 <TL|Away> shit like that 09:53:55 <TL|Away> I am not completely sure what is on the program currently 09:54:01 <TL|Away> but that were my ideas when I made my drafts :) 09:55:59 <MeusH> that's great 09:56:01 <MeusH> but... 09:56:01 <MeusH> 2006-05 -> Having all pieces in Stage 2 09:56:02 <MeusH> 2006-07 -> Having all pieces in Stage 3 09:56:03 <MeusH> 2006-08 -> Releasing alpha 09:56:09 <MeusH> seems it won't be achieved 09:56:10 <TL|Away> yeah, dates won't be made :) 09:56:23 <TL|Away> In that time I thought it was easy possible, it was in fact long term planned 09:56:28 <TL|Away> but ... then I ran out of time 09:58:40 <MeusH> I'm just wondering about that backwards compatibility 09:58:41 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B82510.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:58:49 <MeusH> like TT way of handling stuff 09:58:53 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B82510.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:59:11 <MeusH> I think one may take a TTDPatch to play with old system 09:59:17 <TL|Away> it will, or rather, should be able to read savegames from all 3 known games (TTD, TTDPatch and OpenTTD) 09:59:18 <MeusH> this will just spare your time 09:59:47 <MeusH> so you won't have to code obviously bad and old code, just for some people who want to go back in time 10:00:33 <TL|Away> Yeah, you might be right, it were just ideas :) We will see ;) 10:01:24 <MeusH> a brand new game would be very nice. It would be probably just like your original ideas - "old" code 10:01:29 <MeusH> s/-/minus 10:01:29 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3FE41.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd ["Client exiting"] 10:01:39 <TL|Away> :) 10:03:13 <TL|Away> But me myself have seen enough trains after 3 years of developing for TT-like games now :p 10:03:26 <TL|Away> when you stop dreaming about them, it is enough :p 10:03:27 <TL|Away> hehehehehe 10:03:58 <Bjarni> you started dreaming about trains? 10:04:11 <TL|Away> in the beginning? Yeah, dah 10:04:16 <TL|Away> you want to say you didn't? :) 10:04:21 <Bjarni> no 10:04:27 <TL|Away> poor bastard 10:04:46 <Bjarni> usually it's real life trains though 10:06:55 <TL|Away> Anyway, I wanted to start opendune :p 10:06:59 <TL|Away> but oh well 10:07:00 <TL|Away> time :p 10:08:05 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6037.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 10:16:16 *** e1ko [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 10:19:51 <Bjarni> hpuwaegfdfglad 10:20:05 <Bjarni> I hate that we don't have the scenarios in SVN 10:26:06 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 10:26:09 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B84BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:31 <[Shaman]> [TL|Away]: Anyway, I wanted to start opendune :p << now that would be something sweet :P 10:32:20 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B84BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:32:53 <CIA-3> bjarni * r5438 /trunk/os/macosx/Makefile: -Code cleanup [OSX] removed UNIVERSAL_BINARY as a phony target since the target is long gone. Also corrected BUILD_OSX_BUNDLE as phony target 10:34:37 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:36:26 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-210-51.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 10:40:27 *** ^Cartman^ [n=Eric_Car@ti100710a081-6037.bb.online.no] has quit ["Bunchie!"] 10:40:29 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-59-224.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 10:41:07 <Wolf01> sidew has found a bug on the miniIN: with the USset when in tropical climate and you want to refit tankers from oil to water, appears a popup which tell you that is impossible to refit 10:41:29 <Bjarni> hmm 10:41:45 <Bjarni> the interesting part here is if the trunk/nightly build behaves the same way 10:44:34 <CIA-3> bjarni * r5439 /branches/0.4/os/macosx/Makefile: 10:44:34 <CIA-3> -Backport [OSX] rev 5438 -Code cleanup [OSX] removed UNIVERSAL_BINARY as a phony target since the target is long gone. Also corrected BUILD_OSX_BUNDLE as phony target 10:44:34 <CIA-3> also corrected two $(BUILD_OSX_BUNDLE) to BUILD_OSX_BUNDLE, so the bundle will always build 10:45:00 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B832D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:45:23 *** tokai|mdlx [n=tokai@p54B832D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:46:55 <CIA-3> bjarni * r5440 /branches/0.4/vehicle.c: -Backport: rev 5428 -Fix: [vehicles] sovled crash when trying to build a vehicle type, that is set to max 0 (spotted by roboman) 10:48:07 <MeusH> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461083#461083 :P 10:50:20 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B84BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 10:50:47 <Bjarni> MeusH: well, you forgot one thing: trains should all have poor reliability and randomly lose wagons in depots 10:50:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i cannot get hommv to run :( 10:51:04 <Bjarni> actually that would be two things :P 10:51:13 <MeusH> :) 10:51:26 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 10:55:06 <Bjarni> ohh, better yet: also randomly add lost wagons, that was left in depots 10:57:28 <Sacro> Bjarni: ahh yes, you just cant get the staff 10:57:47 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 10:58:09 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 11:19:29 *** jnmbk [n=a@85.96.41.165] has quit [] 11:20:31 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.85.19.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 11:22:56 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 11:27:00 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 11:27:50 *** MrRexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-10608.bb.online.no] has quit ["edgepro: Sanity is a full time job."] 11:32:10 *** Rexxie [n=rexxars@ti131310a080-10608.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 11:33:46 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:34:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:35:43 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... so this crashed badly... 11:35:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i should try something easier first ;) 11:35:59 *** hapoM [i=hapo@KCXLVIII.gprs.saunalahti.fi] has joined #openttd 11:36:10 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:39:47 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:41:31 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 11:41:32 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:46:32 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:50:24 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:53:19 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83B87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:02:56 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B84BD7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Success] 12:03:06 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176110243.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:06:35 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:07:34 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:07:43 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:12:28 *** Dred_furst` is now known as Dred_furst 12:15:08 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:15:35 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387DBA6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:18:28 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:23:55 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387DBA6.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 12:36:05 *** hapoM [i=hapo@KCXLVIII.gprs.saunalahti.fi] has left #openttd ["Lähdössä"] 12:50:26 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83B87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:54:29 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387DBA6.versanet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 13:05:16 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:11:13 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83B87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 13:25:39 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.194] has joined #openttd 13:26:33 <UnderBuilder> still logins to sf disabled? 13:26:44 <TL|Away> yesterday not 13:27:33 *** Morlark [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:28:26 <Bjarni> hmm 13:28:32 <Bjarni> should we release now? 13:28:40 <Bjarni> the RC1 release, that is 13:28:55 <Bjarni> the issue is, I only got the OSX binaries 13:28:59 <TL|Away> Bjarni: I believe MiHaMiX made a nice mail about it :p 13:29:13 <Bjarni> I read it 13:29:18 <TL|Away> I know :) 13:29:21 <Bjarni> and I'm still waiting for people to show up with binaries 13:29:28 <TL|Away> but I believe you guys now are all asking eachother: should we release now? 13:29:37 <TL|Away> and therefor nobody come with binaries 13:29:42 <TL|Away> and so everything is frozen :) 13:29:42 <Bjarni> ok 13:29:49 <TL|Away> the tag is made 13:29:51 <Bjarni> order: show up with binaries NOW 13:29:59 <TL|Away> so I believe it is safe to assume Darkvater ment to you guys make binaries :) 13:31:39 <Bjarni> I noticed that it's buggy. Somebody (your or me) accidentally modifed os/macosx/Makefile to not to make bundles o_O 13:31:51 <TL|Away> hehe 13:31:52 <Bjarni> *(you or me) 13:31:59 <TL|Away> the compile-farm did compile nicely 13:32:00 <TL|Away> but oh well 13:32:05 <TL|Away> as long as it is (correctly) fixed now :p 13:32:05 <Bjarni> I fixed this in the 0.4 branch 13:32:12 <Bjarni> it works in the trunk 13:32:18 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX asked me why the compile-farm doesn't make release binaries.. 13:32:23 <TL|Away> I guess we should try to work towards this 13:32:27 <Bjarni> so I have no idea how 0.4 broke. It never broke in the trunk 13:32:29 <TL|Away> although you have to make the dmg file 13:32:39 <Sacro> Bjarni: which binaries are you wanting? i can do a few 13:32:40 <TL|Away> wrong backports maybe? 13:33:02 <TL|Away> Bjarni: Celester should have the windows binary from Darkvater 13:33:08 <Bjarni> most likely, even though I have no idea how that happened 13:33:35 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 13:33:56 <Bjarni> it's a wise choice to send it to somebody, who is offline when we need it :P 13:34:24 <TL|Away> :) 13:34:31 <Bjarni> TL|Away: btw how did your dmg project go? is it possible to do? 13:34:31 <Sacro> you'd like a windows binary doing? 13:34:34 *** ems [n=ems@203-214-133-79.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:34:39 <TL|Away> Bjarni: nope 13:34:41 <ems> hi 13:34:42 <ems> <__20h__> Open Transport Tycoon does crash if you have too many stations/vehicles. 13:34:50 <Sacro> ems: most likely 13:34:57 <Bjarni> Sacro: Celestar got a windows binary, but he is not here :( 13:35:07 <TL|Away> Sacro: and release binaries are pretty special :) 13:35:26 <Sacro> ah, cos i have MinGW and i know how to use it 13:35:28 <Bjarni> ems: it should stop you from building too many instead of crashing 13:35:39 <TL|Away> Sacro: you need a bit more then just mingw :p 13:35:43 <Bjarni> Sacro: the release binaries aren't build with mingw 13:35:51 <Bjarni> at least I don't think so 13:35:59 <TL|Away> nope 13:36:01 <Sacro> Bjarni: i dont think it really matters does it? 13:36:03 <TL|Away> and are msi wrapped :p 13:36:10 <TL|Away> Sacro: it does, for releases, it does 13:36:16 <Sacro> ahh yes, the msi installer 13:36:20 <ems> reminding of the offer: 13:36:21 <ems> <__20h__> If anyone gets Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe to work on Plan 9, then he will get a beer. 13:36:36 <Bjarni> ems: plan 9? 13:36:46 <Sacro> ems: yes, but theres no SDL port from what i could see 13:37:10 <ems> http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9 13:37:16 <Sacro> well...how about linux binaries? 13:37:17 <ems> Sacro: check contribs 13:37:22 <Bjarni> Sacro: "If anyone gets Open Transport Tycoon Deluxe to work" <-- without SDL, I guess it would have to be a dedicated server :P 13:37:32 <Sacro> ems: ah right, and plan9 is open source 13:37:37 <Sacro> i wonder if it has gcc... 13:37:40 <ems> there is SDL 13:37:49 <ems> Sacro: it is open source 13:38:01 <ems> Sacro: it has a compiler by Ken Thompson 13:38:10 <Sacro> ems: i know, but its kind of hard to compile without a compiler 13:38:20 <Sacro> you'd need to compile a compiler...but using what... 13:38:30 <ems> Sacro: gcc was ported back in the old days... it is being updated recently 13:38:32 <ems> kencc 13:38:43 <ems> Plan 9 has its own C compiler 13:38:47 <ems> by Ken Thompson 13:38:47 <Bjarni> Sacro: no, you just open a file in HEX and write some random numbers... if you try enough times, you will hit the right combo eventually ;) 13:38:55 <Sacro> hmm, now how nicely does it run under QEmu 13:39:14 <ems> Sacro: it runs okay 13:39:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: i've downloaded a torrent, its stuck at 99% with 64k to go, i was considering that approach 13:39:17 <Bjarni> is it free to download? 13:39:27 <ems> Sacro: just don't try using it with DMA 13:39:48 <Bjarni> why not? 13:39:50 <ems> Sacro: Qemu doesn't have DMA and it kills it if you try using it with it turned on 13:40:16 <ems> Bjarni: yes it meets DFSG 13:40:43 <ems> Bjarni: the install cd is also bootable... this is not linux... we have rules :p 13:41:53 <Sacro> i wonder if freeoszoo has a predone qemu install 13:42:06 <ems> Sacro: yes it does 13:42:14 <ems> Sacro: it was one of the first images 13:42:15 <Sacro> 060327 13:42:35 <Sacro> would it be easier than installing using the cd? 13:42:57 <ems> depends 13:43:01 <Sacro> on? 13:43:04 <ems> but most likely yes 13:43:25 <ems> depends on if the installed version is how you want it 13:43:51 <Sacro> hum...a torrent 13:43:54 <Sacro> that is true 13:43:58 <Sacro> ill install it myself :) 13:44:15 <ems> its only 80MB 13:44:22 <ems> the offical CD 13:44:50 <Sacro> yep, DTA is working on it 13:45:01 <Sacro> 37% @ 120KB/s 13:45:09 <TL|Away> why would someone want to use this plan9? :s 13:45:14 <ems> Bell Labs has quiet a bit of bandwidth 13:45:26 <ems> TL|Away: that question was asked on osnews 13:45:26 <Sacro> ive found a gcc and X11 port 13:45:26 <Bjarni> TL|Away: I have no idea 13:45:38 <Sacro> why do people use os/2? 13:45:47 <Bjarni> good question 13:45:52 <Bjarni> I can't answer that 13:46:10 <Sacro> i'd run OpenTTD on my amiga 500 if i could, just cos i can 13:46:18 <ems> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=15034 13:46:20 <TL|Away> ems: many people ask many things.. doesn't mean it is a good question ;) 13:46:21 <Bjarni> you can't :P 13:46:22 <ems> see the comments 13:46:45 <ems> Sacro: the x11 port is crap 13:46:54 <Sacro> what are ape sources 13:46:54 <ems> Sacro: native graphics is much better 13:47:00 <Sacro> ems: ahh, it has native graphics 13:47:02 <ems> x is just crap 13:47:10 <Sacro> hmm as long as SDL supports it should be ok 13:47:23 <ems> SDL should work under APE 13:47:31 <Sacro> what do i need for gcc 13:47:31 <ems> I heard it is working 13:47:37 <Sacro> there seem to be seperate downloads 13:47:48 <ems> Sacro: we don't use gcc 13:47:54 <Sacro> oook 13:48:03 <ems> this isn't linux 13:48:21 <ems> anyway join #plan9 13:48:31 *** __20h__ [n=some_one@p54B46E0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:48:31 <ems> I am by no means an expert 13:48:35 <__20h__> Guten Tag. 13:48:35 <ems> hi __20h__ 13:48:58 <Bjarni> I guess that would make it German beer 13:49:08 <__20h__> Yes. 13:49:56 <Sacro> hmm, it wont have autotools 13:50:32 <Bjarni> autotools sucks anyway 13:50:33 <Eddi|zuHause> you could try if it has a wine port, and run the windows version ;) 13:51:15 <__20h__> There is no WINE or autohell on Plan 9. 13:51:40 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82460.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:51:46 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 13:52:04 <Sacro> i see they have mk 13:52:33 <ems> yes it was move along from v10 unix 13:52:39 <ems> so was rc 13:52:44 <Sacro> ive never used unix 13:53:49 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:55:21 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@70-94.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 13:58:39 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 13:59:10 *** Maedhros_ [n=jc@host86-137-33-227.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:59:44 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83B87.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:00:41 *** Maedhros_ [n=jc@host86-137-33-227.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:08:38 *** Maedhros_ [n=jc@host86-137-33-227.range86-137.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:10:14 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:10:32 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:10:37 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:11:41 *** Maedhros_ is now known as Maedhros 14:15:52 <Sacro> its all quiet in here 14:16:18 <peter1138> yes 14:16:25 <__20h__> That's IRC. 14:17:13 *** TL|Away [n=trueligh@truelight.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:20:22 *** TL|Away [n=trueligh@truelight.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:36:50 <Sacro> ems: given up 14:37:43 <__20h__> Still thanks for OpenTTD. 14:38:26 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has joined #openttd 14:39:21 <Sacro> __20h__: i would continue, but i cant get plan9 to install 14:39:58 <TL|Away> it doesn't sound like a good plan 14:40:00 <TL|Away> (hehe, sorry :p) 14:40:33 <__20h__> Sacro, you would need to port SDL to Plan 9. 14:40:44 <Sacro> __20h__: i was told it had been done 14:40:48 <Sacro> TL|Away: thanks for that 14:40:57 <TL|Away> the name is just funny :) 14:41:05 <TL|Away> what are you going to do? Use a plan! 14:41:07 <__20h__> Sacro, don't trust ems. 14:41:19 <TL|Away> The statement above is false 14:41:19 <Sacro> __20h__: oh, ok 14:41:24 <TL|Away> :p 14:41:30 <TL|Away> The statement below is false 14:41:33 <TL|Away> The statement above is true 14:41:34 <Sacro> TL|Away: This statement is false 14:41:37 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181110082.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 14:41:38 <TL|Away> I love paradox :) 14:41:45 <__20h__> You guys just suck. :P 14:41:55 <TL|Away> I bet you suck better 14:42:06 <Sacro> :o i dont wanna know 14:42:11 <TL|Away> sad 14:42:13 <TL|Away> said 14:42:15 <TL|Away> sad 14:42:16 <TL|Away> hmmz 14:42:17 <TL|Away> what ever :p 14:42:17 <__20h__> Where can we meet? 14:42:56 <TL|Away> behind the old tree 14:43:15 <__20h__> Ah, where we met for the first time. 14:43:43 *** Nibjib [n=benjamin@84-43-20-37.ppp.onetel.net.uk] has joined #openttd 14:43:44 <TL|Away> no, now you confuse me with Bjarni 14:44:20 <__20h__> Then I met you and Bjarni in the old barn. 14:44:59 <TL|Away> you can meet Bjarni and me everywhere you like 14:45:01 <TL|Away> just close your eyes 14:45:36 <__20h__> No I won't. Last time I did this did some dark-leather clothed guys appear. 14:45:45 <TL|Away> hehe 14:45:51 <TL|Away> that would have been Sacro indeed 14:46:22 <Sacro> :o 14:46:26 <Sacro> lies! 14:47:32 <TL|Away> ALL LIES!!! 14:47:34 <TL|Away> IT WAS HIM! 14:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause> [2006-07-01 16:41] <TL|Away> The statement below is false 14:47:43 <Eddi|zuHause> [2006-07-01 16:41] <TL|Away> The statement above is true 14:47:51 <Eddi|zuHause> that can leave only one conclusion 14:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> false = true 14:47:59 <TL|Away> that I am an idiot? 14:48:33 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@70-94.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 14:49:16 <Sacro> TL|Away: makes sense to me 14:49:22 <TL|Away> yup, to me too :) 14:50:23 <TL|Away> And all those people in my head agree too 14:50:28 <TL|Away> so that makes us a happy family :) 14:50:42 <Brianetta> The statement below is false 14:50:43 <Brianetta> The statement above is false 14:50:43 <Brianetta> This is also paradoxical. 14:50:57 <TL|Away> no Brianetta, that is just you talking gibberish :p 14:51:23 <TL|Away> Brianetta: that aint paradox btw, because they are simply both true 14:51:25 <TL|Away> nothing wrong with that 14:51:43 <Brianetta> They aren't both truwe 14:51:52 <Brianetta> If they were, they'd refer to each other as true 14:52:00 <TL|Away> yes they are :) Statement 1 doesn't lie, neither does statement 2 :p 14:52:28 <Brianetta> If statement 1 doesn't lie, then statement 2 does. 14:52:37 <TL|Away> butthen the bunny comes along 14:52:40 <TL|Away> and eats them all 14:52:42 <TL|Away> so in the end 14:52:43 <TL|Away> it is true 14:53:05 <Sacro> hmm 14:59:50 *** Osai is now known as Osai^bbq 14:59:59 <CIA-3> miham * r5441 /trunk/lang/ (danish.txt estonian.txt finnish.txt galician.txt): 14:59:59 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-01 16:59:36 14:59:59 <CIA-3> danish - 8 fixed by Bjarni (8) 14:59:59 <CIA-3> estonian - 16 fixed by t2t2 (8), vermon (8) 14:59:59 <CIA-3> finnish - 17 fixed by lauri.kajan (17) 15:00:00 <CIA-3> galician - 25 fixed by Condex (25) 15:04:17 <MiHaMiX> hmm 15:05:08 <MiHaMiX> noone around? :D 15:05:46 <TL|Away> of course not 15:06:01 <ln-> absolutely not, the sun is shining out there. 15:06:08 <TL|Away> and HOT it is :( 15:07:36 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 15:08:23 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 15:10:52 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 15:11:28 <Bjarni> hmm 15:11:39 <Bjarni> how do I remove the last 4 chars from a string in bash? 15:11:50 <ems> lol 15:11:59 <Bjarni> at one time, I used a very simple command, but I forgot it :( 15:12:11 <ems> Bjarni: try rc, seriously. 15:12:32 <ln-> Bjarni: do you know those last 4 chars? 15:12:32 <TL|Away> Bjarni: cut -b -4 15:13:18 <Bjarni> I know the string, I just don't know the total length of the string in question 15:13:36 <Sacro> Bjarni: s/string// 15:13:39 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 15:13:46 <ln-> Sacro: a great way to do it wrong. 15:13:52 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: in clean bash? 15:13:59 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: without external cmds? 15:14:01 <Sacro> s/*(4)^// ? 15:14:22 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:14:32 <Sacro> Bjarni: end, bksp, bksp, bksp, bkps 15:14:34 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: len=$((${#string_variable}-4)) 15:14:47 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: echo ${string_variable:0:$len} 15:15:45 <ln-> but, if the 4 chars is something like a file extension, e.g. '.jpg', then using the basename command is the easy way. 15:16:02 <ln-> especially if the extension is always the same. 15:16:10 <Bjarni> yeah, now it's working 15:16:15 <Bjarni> thanks MiHaMiX 15:16:38 <Bjarni> and everybody else, who said something, which I ended up not using ;) 15:16:43 <MiHaMiX> :DD 15:20:38 <Sacro> hmm, if i wanted a program to bring in f1 timings from a website, and output it as XML, would C/C++ be better...or perl 15:20:44 <Sacro> can you make perl into an EXE? 15:21:17 <ln-> C/C++ is the hard way. 15:21:37 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: perl/php is the easiest.. or python 15:21:39 <anboni> that sounds more like a job for a shell script with some awk and other similar tools 15:21:52 <anboni> or, failing a proper shell, python would also be good i guess :) 15:21:57 <Sacro> i was thnking php, but its hardly distributable 15:22:23 <Sacro> i ideally wanted some kind of binary 15:22:30 <KUDr> on what platform it should run? 15:22:46 <Sacro> KUDr: well, Windows, Linux, OSX 15:23:35 <KUDr> hmm, default windows has no java, no perl, no anything (except jscript & vbscript) 15:23:44 <Sacro> KUDr: yes...i know 15:23:51 <anboni> python can be compiled to an executable 15:23:55 <Sacro> output would probably be GTK 15:23:58 <ln-> you could code it in pseudo code 15:24:00 <Sacro> anboni: but i dont know python 15:24:09 <KUDr> so then some engine (runtime) + script or C 15:24:14 <anboni> python is fairly easy to learn if you know programming in general 15:24:33 <ln-> see wxPython 15:25:13 <KUDr> and then distribute it with python engine + wxwindows => big package 15:26:10 <anboni> define 'big'? a few mb isn't really big anymore nowadays.. and i think that's estimating way too much 15:26:12 <KUDr> or use expat + LUA and it can have up to 200k 15:26:26 <KUDr> big ~ some megs 15:26:33 <Sacro> home 15:26:36 <Sacro> *hmm 15:27:26 <Sacro> expat? LUA? 15:27:40 <anboni> anyone have a good tgp seed for a low number of lakes in a flat-ish map? 15:27:46 <Sacro> ooh, cool 15:27:56 <Sacro> anboni: 2824743034 15:29:09 <anboni> uhm.. that seems to be too much for the int32 value i can fill in there :) 15:29:15 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:29:33 <Sacro> anboni: ah, you want an int32 15:29:36 <Sacro> hmm 15:29:41 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 15:29:44 <Sacro> 52709544 15:29:48 <anboni> well, that's what the MiniIN tgp seems to ask for :) 15:30:31 <Sacro> s'ok, i can come up with numbers for any length 15:30:37 <anboni> ... 15:31:21 <Sacro> ;) 15:31:23 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:32:23 <Sacro> hmm, next f1 session isnt far off, i could do with some kinda tests going then 15:33:40 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:35:33 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 15:49:02 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-210-51.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:49:39 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-210-51.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:50:40 <Sacro> whoops 15:54:55 *** Frostregen_ [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-097-068.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:03:51 <Eddi|zuHause> found out, what that little 'x' button is for? ;) 16:05:33 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:06:09 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: didnt notice laptop wasnt plugged in 16:06:54 <Eddi|zuHause> and it does not scream when on low battery? 16:07:54 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #openttd 16:11:19 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: no 16:13:16 *** Frostregen [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-164-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:13:18 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 16:13:33 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:13:33 <MeusH> hi 16:14:39 <Sacro> arrrrrrrrrrrgh its a MeusH 16:14:41 <Sacro> hey :) 16:15:29 <MeusH> hello hello mr Sacro 16:15:45 <Sacro> how are you Mr MeusH ? 16:16:29 <MeusH> I'm fine, thanks, however it's raining all the day 16:17:51 <Sacro> its boiling hot here, 25/26 degrees, sunny 16:18:27 <MeusH> hehe, it was 34 deg here recently 16:18:41 <MeusH> about one week ago 16:19:00 <Sacro> ouch 16:19:00 <MeusH> now my skin rips down 16:19:07 <MeusH> or how to say it... 16:19:08 <Sacro> they reckon it could get up to 31/32 here 16:19:50 *** tokai|3 [n=tokai@p54B821EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:21:04 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B821EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:22:14 <TL|Away> who knows how to make a yes/no question in javascript? 16:23:02 *** UnderBuilder [i=UnderBui@168.226.106.194] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 16:23:25 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-59-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:23:57 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:24:54 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:03 <Sacro> TL|Away: someone must do 16:26:17 *** trogdorx [i=eirik@cm-80.111.203.151.chello.no] has joined #openttd 16:26:44 <trogdorx> are tracks supposed to cost a shitload in the r5422 MiniIN? 16:28:27 <trogdorx> 2 diagonal tracks cost ,718 16:29:05 *** __20h__ [n=some_one@p54B46E0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:31:03 *** tokai|ni [n=tokai@p54B82460.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:31:59 <trogdorx> a TINY stretch of tracks cost me 18k 16:37:47 <trogdorx> and my coal train just earned me 19k 16:37:51 <trogdorx> this doesnt make any sense 16:39:11 <MeusH> hey I do 16:39:14 <MeusH> TL|Away 16:39:20 <TL|Away> yes? 16:39:29 <Sacro> TL|Away: BOO! 16:39:35 <TL|Away> NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :( 16:39:40 <TL|Away> you scared me :( 16:39:51 <MeusH> http://www.perlscriptsjavascripts.com/js/alertboxes.html 16:39:51 * Sacro pats TL|Away on the back...it 16:39:56 <Sacro> it's ok, tis only me 16:40:05 <TL|Away> the big scary man 16:40:08 <Sacro> hehe 16:40:11 <MeusH> where? 16:40:15 <Sacro> im trying to learn libxml, its not going well 16:40:26 <TL|Away> libxml2 is EASY! 16:40:34 <MeusH> and who is scary here? ;) 16:40:42 <TL|Away> tnx MeusH, I hope that helps 16:40:50 <MeusH> np, I just googled :) 16:41:00 <TL|Away> I was too lazy :p 16:41:18 <MeusH> TL|Away: how about making a (long awaited) webpage with scenarios to download? 16:41:32 <MeusH> http://wiki.openttd.org/wiki/Scenarios says some are downloadable 16:41:35 <TL|Away> MeusH: not my department 16:41:40 <MeusH> so... whose? 16:41:44 <TL|Away> Darkvater I guess 16:41:48 <MeusH> okay 16:42:16 <MeusH> anyway the link is http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Scenarios 16:43:16 <trogdorx> are tracks supposed to cost a shitload in the r5422 MiniIN? 16:43:57 <MeusH> HOLY COWS 16:44:14 <trogdorx> are tracks supposed to cost a shitload in the r5422 MiniIN? 16:44:17 <trogdorx> for crying out loud 16:44:19 <trogdorx> can someone reply? 16:44:29 <MeusH> I just downloaded sth with a speed of over 1400 kB/s 16:44:48 <Sacro> lol 16:44:51 <MeusH> I haven't ever seen something like that with my current net provider 16:44:54 <Sacro> 1 floppy/sec 16:44:58 <MeusH> :P 16:45:07 <MeusH> Usually I dl things 8kB/s 16:45:15 <MeusH> however, sometimes it goes 1,5kB/s 16:45:26 <MeusH> I phone them and shout at them 16:45:39 <MeusH> and for two days I have ~20kB/s 16:46:16 <trogdorx> i usually get around 13mb/s 16:46:19 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa97.8.tellas.gr] has joined #openttd 16:46:19 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:46:54 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:48:26 <MeusH> omg nice 16:48:45 <MeusH> that would be over 1CD/min :) 16:50:17 <MiHaMiX> the biggest bandwidth I managed to use practically was 1.86Gbit/s between two servers 16:50:57 <Sacro> trogdorx: how can you have a mb? 16:50:57 <trogdorx> yea, but networkied servers? 16:51:03 <trogdorx> fine 16:51:05 <trogdorx> mB/s 16:51:11 <trogdorx> no wait 16:51:14 <Sacro> :P 16:51:14 <trogdorx> megabyte/s 16:51:16 <trogdorx> bastard 16:51:16 <MeusH> megabyte? 16:51:18 <Sacro> MB :P 16:51:24 <MeusH> megabit? 16:51:27 <Sacro> M = mega, m = milli 16:51:28 <trogdorx> megabyte 16:51:41 <Sacro> B= byte, b=bit (generally) 16:51:42 <trogdorx> i have a 100mbit connection 16:51:48 <MeusH> b = bit B = byte :) 16:51:59 <trogdorx> oh for fucks sake 16:52:02 <Sacro> 100 millibit... 16:52:07 <trogdorx> thirten megabytes per second 16:52:11 <trogdorx> thirteen* 16:52:39 <toweri> And Mi = 2^(20), M = 10^6 16:52:45 <toweri> To add to the confusion ;) 16:53:08 <trogdorx> ehm 16:53:10 <trogdorx> i know this shit 16:53:11 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 16:53:14 <trogdorx> i just dont care about it :) 16:53:35 <trogdorx> anyways, 100mBIt 16:53:43 <trogdorx> ok this keyboard is getting on my nerves 16:53:53 <Sacro> lol 16:53:56 <Sacro> Mbit 16:53:58 <trogdorx> 100mBps 16:54:03 <Sacro> nooo, M 16:54:11 <trogdorx> its too late 16:54:12 <trogdorx> anyways 16:54:17 <Sacro> you cant have a millibit 16:54:20 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 16:54:26 <trogdorx> are tracks supposed to cost a shitload r5422 mini nightly? 16:54:48 <Sacro> depends 16:54:56 <trogdorx> wait.. 16:55:00 <trogdorx> no they cost less 16:55:00 <trogdorx> wtf 16:55:19 <trogdorx> 6 for 2 diagonal 16:56:14 <trogdorx> thats not normal is it? 16:56:27 <trogdorx> oh there it is 16:56:34 <trogdorx> 2 diagonal tracks in the farms 16:56:41 <trogdorx> ,876 16:57:20 <trogdorx> and yes construction cost is low 16:57:38 <Sacro> thats cos your destorying farmland 16:57:48 <trogdorx> ... 16:57:57 <trogdorx> its still not supposed to cost ,876 16:58:12 <MeusH> guys you're confusing me 16:58:22 *** SchAmane [n=schamane@p5498E126.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:27 <MeusH> how about m,876bytes? 16:58:54 <Sacro> errm... 16:58:59 <Sacro> invalid 16:59:14 <Sacro> you cant have .876 of a byte i dont think 17:02:35 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B821EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 17:12:53 <Brianetta> peter1138: ping 17:18:05 <MeusH> how do you dare play ping pong here? 17:18:13 <MeusH> shame on you 17:18:50 <Sacro> |. 17:19:17 <Sacro> .| 17:20:22 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 17:20:25 <toweri> |. 17:20:34 <toweri> | . 17:20:51 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit ["restart of the whole shit"] 17:24:53 <Sacro> toweri: hehe, 1:0 to me 17:25:01 <toweri> oops 17:25:11 <Sacro> unless... 17:25:19 <Sacro> .| saved! 17:29:55 <hylje> :o 17:33:40 <Sacro> :P 17:34:25 <toweri> d: 17:35:29 *** Xeryus|slaap [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:35:29 *** XeryusTC [n=irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:36:05 <Sacro> :B 17:36:07 *** Xeryus|slaap is now known as XeryusTC 17:36:26 <TL|Away> cheaters 17:38:11 <Sacro> TL|Away: nah we isnt 17:38:41 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:42:50 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:45:55 *** coppercore [n=copperco@dpc691917057.direcpc.com] has quit ["*.net *.split"] 17:47:50 *** Zahl [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-211-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:50:35 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 17:56:20 <CIA-3> miham * r5442 /trunk/lang/danish.txt: 17:56:20 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-01 19:56:03 17:56:20 <CIA-3> danish - 12 fixed by Bjarni (12) 17:58:13 *** Osai^bbq [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 18:00:02 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B821EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:23 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 18:09:46 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:11:49 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:12:00 *** dst_ [n=dennis@p213.54.73.133.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 18:13:34 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-59-241.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:16:09 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 18:16:50 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 18:32:19 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 18:36:47 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 18:39:39 <Rens2Sea> File ``\newgrf\ph_hovs_bus.gr'' lost in cache. 18:39:42 <Rens2Sea> help? :( 18:40:24 <scia> Rens2Sea: add an 'f' :) 18:40:35 <Rens2Sea> ... 18:40:39 <Rens2Sea> File ``\newgrf\ph_hovs_bus.grf'' lost in cache. 18:40:41 <Rens2Sea> happy now? 18:41:08 <scia> yes :p 18:41:12 <scia> what did you do? 18:41:14 <Rens2Sea> good 18:41:15 <Rens2Sea> now help me :o 18:41:26 <Rens2Sea> added some more grf's 18:41:33 <scia> ok 18:41:35 <Rens2Sea> is there a limit? :/ 18:41:44 <scia> some grf can conflict with eachother 18:41:50 <scia> try to isolate the problem 18:42:15 <scia> there is a limit too, but that limit is very high in the nightlies i believe 18:46:22 * scia is away 18:46:24 <scia> bye 18:46:35 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 18:47:45 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:50:12 <Sacro> Rens2Sea: pb not ph 18:51:04 <Rens2Sea> eh? 18:52:03 <Sacro> ok, /nick og /quit var på en båt. /nick falt av, hvem satt igjen? 18:52:46 <Rens2Sea> o_o 18:53:01 <Sacro> O_o 18:53:01 <Bjarni> http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=19168 <-- o_O 18:53:07 <Bjarni> fish tank simulator??? 18:53:16 <Sacro> Bjarni: been there, played that 18:53:26 <Bjarni> I rest my case 18:53:29 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:53:39 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 18:53:42 <Bjarni> <Sacro> ok, /nick og /quit var på en båt. /nick falt av, hvem satt igjen? <-- that would be /quit 18:53:50 <Sacro> Bjarni: :) 18:53:52 <Bjarni> but why did you write it in Norwegian? 18:54:17 <Sacro> because i can 18:55:00 <Bjarni> I can walk from here to say Rome. That's not the same as will do it 18:55:38 <Sacro> maybe, maybe not 18:55:45 <Bjarni> Sacro might 18:55:58 <Bjarni> but then again, he got nothing better to do :P 18:56:53 <Sacro> i cant walk to Rome 18:56:57 <Sacro> theres water in the way 18:57:19 <Bjarni> ok, I will allow you to take a boat in Dover to get to the other side 18:57:35 <Sacro> Dover to Rome? 18:57:43 <Bjarni> no 18:57:53 <Bjarni> to Calaris (or whatever that place is called) 18:58:01 <Sacro> hmm 18:58:03 <Sacro> Calais 18:58:15 *** Lord^^Pas [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:58:50 <Bjarni> alternatively you can swim across 18:59:50 <Bjarni> or you can try to figure out how to walk on the water. It's mentioned in history, so it might be possible 18:59:57 <Sacro> oooh, maybe so 18:59:58 <Bjarni> you would not be the first to do it 19:00:23 <Sacro> no, thats true 19:00:28 <Sacro> ill wait for an icy day first though 19:00:33 <Bjarni> hey, get two plane seats (those, which floats) and tie them to your shoes. Then you can walk on water 19:00:54 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:59 <C-Funky> hi all, going to watch t.v. 19:01:08 <Bjarni> thanks for the info 19:01:12 <Bjarni> who are you? 19:01:55 <ln-> T minus 9 minutes 19:01:55 <Sacro> C-Funky: and you joined irc because...? 19:01:59 <C-Funky> hmm 19:02:04 <C-Funky> mingw, i think i'm getting it 19:02:05 <C-Funky> ttyl 19:02:12 <Bjarni> <Sacro> ill wait for an icy day first though <-- in a location with palm trees during a global warming? 19:02:18 <Sacro> Bjarni: yep 19:02:19 <C-Funky> i just need some files who are corrupted on the wiki and i can't dl them 19:02:27 <C-Funky> but else everything is working :L) 19:02:29 <C-Funky> :) 19:02:50 <Bjarni> ln-: see you in 12 days (hopefully) 19:02:57 *** heller [i=heller@87.94.25.60] has joined #openttd 19:03:28 <heller> can i run server from console in unix? 19:03:33 <heller> i mean without any X 19:04:16 <Bjarni> yes 19:04:26 <Bjarni> make a dedicated server 19:04:37 <heller> k 19:04:42 <Sacro> doesnt need to be server, can run OpenTTD too 19:04:53 <Bjarni> that would make little sense ;) 19:05:12 <heller> but i only want server for linux :) 19:05:24 <heller> how fast connection does it require for 10players? 19:05:31 <Sacro> Bjarni: it saves on starting X 19:06:07 <Bjarni> heller: you can edit Makefile.config to make a dedicated server, then you will not even need the libs for X and making the stuff for the user interface (like SDL) 19:06:44 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B821EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:07:24 <Wolf01> bye 19:07:42 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 19:09:01 *** nfc [n=nfc@80.220.195.123] has quit ["leaving"] 19:10:41 *** nfc [n=nfc@dsl-hkigw7-fec3dc00-123.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:11:04 <Bjarni> ln-: does NASA TV lag at your location as well? 19:12:44 <Bjarni> ahh, all it takes is to complain about it 19:12:51 <Bjarni> now it's more or less perfect :) 19:13:27 <Sacro> ? 19:13:44 <ln-> Bjarni: no lag 19:13:55 <Sacro> nasa tv? 19:14:09 <ln-> National Aeronautics and Space Administration TeleVision. 19:17:11 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:17:29 <Bjarni> URL? 19:17:30 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:17:48 <Bjarni> it's likely better than the image I get. IT's rather small :( 19:18:15 <Bjarni> oh 19:18:19 <Bjarni> nevermind 19:18:29 <Bjarni> most likely the same URL :P 19:19:42 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 19:20:47 <heller> Bjarni, okay.. i guess 19:20:48 <heller> mabe 19:20:50 <heller> maybe* 19:20:51 <heller> not 19:20:52 <heller> :) 19:22:05 *** baske [n=baske@ip-81-11-187-247.dsl.scarlet.be] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:22:09 <heller> btw, is here any openttd admins? 19:22:14 <ln-> mms://a226.l2626462687.c26264.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/226/26264/v001/reflector:62687?auth=ca.dfc7cacua3b7cJb5aIc3b4afbtdIaqbv-bePSrD-8-cLaL9i-kNlZm2lbk8mHlfkcl3nUk8l9&aifp=v0001&StreamID=26171154&b=0p87ai526n0o444a6c45d&Segment=149773&CG_ID=1369080 19:22:16 <heller> i mean ppl who make it? 19:22:46 <Bjarni> err 19:22:49 <Bjarni> I'm here :) 19:23:13 <heller> ah :) 19:23:18 <heller> i have something to do for you 19:23:39 <ln-> did you mean to say "i have something i want to do for you"? 19:23:53 <[Shaman]> probably not, ln- :P 19:24:21 <Bjarni> for me to to me? 19:24:27 <Bjarni> err 19:24:34 <Bjarni> for me or to me? 19:24:50 <heller> when user disconnects from server, he/she should have choise to have hes/her company sold or auctioned or just deleted 19:24:58 <heller> a choise 19:25:03 <Sacro> hmm, an interesting thought 19:25:27 <heller> cos sometimes i see irrited ppl (me including) when ppl only make maybe one train and then leave 19:25:30 <Bjarni> heller: goto http://bugs.openttd.org and make a feature request 19:25:31 <ln-> heller: impossible. you need to create a fork of the game. 19:25:38 <Bjarni> otherwise I will just forget it 19:25:56 <heller> it would be nicer to have new ppl to make new companies instead of having one company with one train 19:26:00 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 19:26:02 <heller> Bjarni, okies 19:26:03 <heller> :) 19:26:31 <heller> argh 19:26:34 <heller> do i need to register? 19:26:42 <Sacro> heller: dont you like my 1 train companies? 19:26:47 <heller> heh 19:26:49 <Sacro> register for what? 19:27:00 <heller> to make feature request 19:27:17 <Bjarni> that is the preferred way. Basically somebody can reply to a feature request/bug report to ask for stuff 19:27:23 <Bjarni> not more than that 19:27:32 <Bjarni> your email will not be public available 19:27:35 <heller> ah got it 19:27:37 <heller> makin ano 19:27:43 <Sacro> just come here and say OI DEVS :P do this 19:27:59 <heller> OI DEVS, do this: when user disconnects from server, he/she should have choise to have hes/her company sold or auctioned or just deleted 19:28:02 <heller> like that? :D 19:28:09 <Sacro> heller: yep :) 19:28:11 <Bjarni> !insult Sacro 19:28:20 <heller> now im expectin that Bjarni will have it done by new version :) 19:28:35 <Bjarni> damn, the bot is offline 19:28:38 <Bjarni> how did that happen??? 19:28:48 <peter1138> yes 19:28:53 <peter1138> great idea 19:29:11 <heller> Bjarni, he thinks my idea is great and started flooding your forums about it 19:29:15 <peter1138> so my connection drops and i lose my company? 19:29:17 <heller> and took a time off from irc for that 19:29:28 <heller> peter1138, not in that case 19:29:42 <Bjarni> peter1138: it will never be like that 19:29:54 <peter1138> i know 19:30:08 <peter1138> it wouldn't get in 19:30:15 <Sacro> !slap Bjarni 19:30:16 <Bjarni> it is somebody leaves on purpose 19:30:26 <Bjarni> +when 19:30:36 <heller> +boo 19:30:40 <heller> Bjarni, why did you say boo? 19:30:45 <heller> are you trying to scare us? 19:30:56 <heller> (ha ha ha) 19:30:58 <Sacro> -boo 19:30:59 <heller> anyway 19:31:03 <Bjarni> well, I scared our bot away :| 19:31:05 <Sacro> :P mwahahaha, i countered you 19:31:08 <heller> Bjarni :) 19:31:14 <Sacro> with my l33t diff skills 19:31:17 <heller> Sacro, evil :J 19:31:19 <heller> anyway 19:31:21 <heller> im off to somewhere 19:31:26 <heller> catch ya later 19:31:27 <heller> -> 19:31:32 <Sacro> heller: see you's later 19:31:33 <Bjarni> you will never catch me 19:31:40 <Bjarni> I'm uncatchable 19:31:46 <Sacro> your the gingerbread man? 19:31:56 <Bjarni> lol 19:32:08 * Sacro is sat eating them now 19:32:17 <Bjarni> actually what is the British story about the gingerbread man? 19:32:48 <Bjarni> I have seen it mentioned in more than one place, but I guess there is a story behind it 19:33:27 <Sacro> errm...ill see if i can find it 19:34:00 <Sacro> Bjarni: http://www.englishbox.de/gingerb.html 19:34:26 <XeryusTC> peter1138: ping 19:34:55 <Sacro> XeryusTC: pong 19:35:16 <XeryusTC> Sacro has a split personallity? 19:35:27 <Sacro> XeryusTC: maybe 19:35:30 <Sacro> maybe not 19:35:50 <peter1138> pong 19:35:51 <XeryusTC> did you consider to see a srink? 19:36:05 <peter1138> i might disappear 19:36:10 <peter1138> low battery 19:36:12 <XeryusTC> peter1138: there seems to be a problem conserning grfs 19:36:20 <Bjarni> Sacro: ahh. We got a similar story, but with a pancake 19:36:29 <Sacro> pancake? 19:36:32 <Bjarni> peter1138: start the generator 19:36:44 <Sacro> XeryusTC: im seeing one 19:36:54 <XeryusTC> we're using DBset with the alpine grf on the #openttdcoop sandbox 19:36:56 <Sacro> concerning :P 19:37:01 <Bjarni> Sacro: yeah, one of those really flat "cakes" you "bake" on a pan 19:37:32 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes, i know :) like a yorkshire pudding but fried 19:37:49 <XeryusTC> the server gives asserts because some wagons have invalid cargo types because the DB set wasnt originally meant to be used in the arctic climate (which we're playing in) 19:38:09 <Sacro> hmm, im confuesed as to the difference of "A" and 'A' in C 19:38:13 <XeryusTC> peter1138: still there? 19:38:31 <Sacro> im guessing its that 'A' = 'A', whereas "A" = 'A' '/0' 19:39:21 <peter1138> " is a string, ' is a char 19:39:38 <XeryusTC> peter1138: the exact message: openttd: newgrf_engine.c:871: GetCustomEngineSprite: Assertion `cargo != GC_INVALID' failed. 19:39:44 <peter1138> xeryus, yes, but i'm not gboing to look at it 19:39:48 <Sacro> peter1138: yes...but surely a string is a group of chars? 19:39:56 <XeryusTC> :( 19:39:56 <[Shaman]> a string is an array of chars 19:40:03 <peter1138> sacro, exactly 19:40:06 <peter1138> a char isn't 19:40:10 <XeryusTC> [Shaman]: same differense 19:40:11 <Sacro> "hello" == 'h''e''l''l''o'' ? 19:40:36 <Bjarni> ... 19:40:37 <Sacro> bet its null termination that differs... 19:40:47 <Sacro> Bjarni: im sat reading C Primer Plus 19:40:54 <Bjarni> it's actually really tricky to find a picture of a proper pancake 19:41:07 <Bjarni> now I ended up finding a recipe for them in Danish 19:41:12 <Bjarni> I don't think that will help a lot 19:42:03 <Sacro> i could go make one... 19:42:44 <Bjarni> no need 19:42:58 <Bjarni> except if you want to eat it, then I will not stop you :) 19:43:02 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 19:43:20 * peter1138 goes 19:44:00 <Sacro> i quite fancy some actually, but i dont think we have maple syrup 19:44:16 <Bjarni> NASA gave up on getting into space today 19:44:34 <Sacro> reason? 19:44:38 <Bjarni> thunder 19:44:48 <Sacro> hmm, i was hoping "wrong kind of leaves" 19:45:14 <Bjarni> or rather, they are scared that they will start thunder by launching 19:45:43 <Bjarni> the weather appears to be fine in the video 19:45:53 <Bjarni> a bit cloudy, but no rail or thunder 19:46:11 <Bjarni> and the clouds do not appear to be a thunder risk 19:46:21 <C-Funky> Sacro pm 19:46:41 <Sacro> C-Funky: you lie 19:46:59 <Sacro> thunder is no harm 19:47:04 <Sacro> lightning maybe... 19:47:14 <C-Funky> personal message... 19:47:22 <Sacro> C-Funky: none that i can see 19:47:32 <Bjarni> you know what would be funny? 19:47:48 <C-Funky> ok, then press /query C-Funky 19:48:02 <Sacro> done 19:48:23 <Bjarni> if everything would be just fine if they had launched and that before their attempt tomorrow, it will be bad weather and the space shuttle will be hit by lightning on the ground 19:48:27 <C-Funky> now you can see what i type you? 19:48:30 <Sacro> in principle, only requires one bit of memory, because that is enough to cover the full range from 0 to 1. 19:48:33 <Sacro> C-Funky: nope 19:48:37 <Sacro> are you registered? 19:48:39 <C-Funky> duh 19:48:44 <C-Funky> well, not on this server... 19:48:50 <Sacro> ... 19:48:51 <Bjarni> you need to 19:48:56 <Sacro> hence the lack of pm 19:49:00 <Bjarni> otherwise you can't send private messages 19:49:11 <Bjarni> they added that due to a serious spam issue 19:49:11 * Sacro considers setting up an ssh lightswitch system 19:49:31 <Sacro> or a clapper 19:49:47 <Bjarni> you want to give each of your lambs in your room an IPv6 address? 19:49:58 <Bjarni> and Wifi? 19:50:35 <C-Funky> ok now? 19:50:39 <Bjarni> actually it would be kind of cool to have computer controlled lights and stuff 19:50:41 <Sacro> hmm, is 12E20 floating point? im sure it isnt 19:50:58 <Sacro> Bjarni: yeah it would, especially when im out 19:51:06 <Bjarni> and an always on computer, that got speech to text, so you can just say certain commands to turn on the lights, open the window or whatever 19:51:57 <Bjarni> <Sacro> Bjarni: yeah it would, especially when im out <-- "open the front door 100%... oops, now I can't close it again... I better get home in a hurry" 19:52:29 <C-Funky> sacro? 19:52:32 <Sacro> Bjarni: hehe 19:52:40 <Sacro> C-Funky: yes'm? 19:52:45 <C-Funky> pm! 19:53:08 <Sacro> C-Funky: i know! 19:53:15 <C-Funky> ohh ok 19:53:56 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:54:02 <black_Nightmare> hey brianetta ? 19:54:47 *** jonty_comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:54:49 <C-Funky> i have this problem with mingw, in the wiki it says to type svn help but the mysys proggy sais it's unknown command, i did unpacked the svn zip to where i was told... 19:56:35 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 19:56:53 <RichK67> hi all 19:57:05 <black_Nightmare> hey richk :p 19:57:30 <MeusH> hey RuchK67 19:57:32 <MeusH> sorry 19:57:35 <MeusH> RichK67 19:57:44 <RichK67> lol - thats ok mouse 19:57:44 <MeusH> I've got a question to you 19:57:50 <RichK67> ;) 19:58:54 <MeusH> did you update my tooltips patch? I'd like to know because I'm going on holidays, my parents are taking the PC to watch the movies, and I think I may do some coding in a stormy day 19:59:13 <Brianetta> (: 20:00:23 <RichK67> nope 20:00:56 <MeusH> allright 20:01:18 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:27 <black_Nightmare> hey eddi 20:03:03 <Sacro> ooh tis him 20:05:29 <Sacro> hm, anyone there? 20:07:48 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:07:55 <MeusH> sure 20:08:29 <black_Nightmare> sacro...I am...just pondering about my particular junctions in.....umm...another game :p 20:08:54 <Sacro> :o 20:08:59 <Sacro> shock horrer 20:09:44 <black_Nightmare> sacro...? 20:10:05 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: what game? 20:10:20 <MeusH> another :| 20:10:28 <Sacro> MeusH: i know! 20:10:30 <black_Nightmare> sacro.. ttdpatch 20:10:32 <Sacro> the cheek of it 20:10:36 <black_Nightmare> hehe meush 20:11:33 *** Osai^bbq [n=Osai@p54B37A30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:30 *** jonty_comp is now known as jonty-comp 20:20:23 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B75EFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:21:14 *** fusey [i=fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 20:22:42 <MeusH> cya people 20:22:54 *** MeusH [n=MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:23:00 <black_Nightmare> what you doing anyhow sacro? 20:23:24 <Sacro> listening to the lightning seeds and reading a CHM 20:24:26 <RichK67> bugger it... we screw up against the portuguese, and now the beatable french are winning :( 20:24:44 <Sacro> hmm 20:24:45 <black_Nightmare> hehe ok :p 20:27:33 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:27:37 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 20:29:20 *** Osai^bbq is now known as Osai 20:31:58 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 20:36:21 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has joined #openttd 20:37:03 <TL|Away> http://www.ongein.nl/getItem2.aspx?file=handsupkitty.jpg <- isn't it a sweet pussy? 20:37:17 <TL|Away> I think she is really really really sweet :) 20:38:21 <Sacro> pussy? 20:38:29 <RichK67> awwww 20:38:33 <TL|Away> poesie mauw 20:38:37 <TL|Away> I only fail to translate 20:39:32 <MiHaMiX> kitty 20:39:38 <TL|Away> tnx 20:39:49 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: it's in the name of the picture, too :P 20:39:57 <TL|Away> DOH! 20:41:17 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-60-173.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 20:43:14 <TL|Away> 1+1=2 20:43:15 <TL|Away> 2+2=4 20:43:17 <TL|Away> 4+4=8 20:43:19 <TL|Away> 8+8=17 20:43:21 <TL|Away> compute error 20:43:23 <TL|Away> closing 20:43:23 <trogdorx> yea 20:43:32 <trogdorx> why 17? :\ 20:43:38 *** dp [n=dp@p54B2DCC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:43 <TL|Away> FPU is damaged 20:44:12 <MiHaMiX> trogdorx: you can decrease both sides with 16.5, then raising them to square :) 20:44:31 <MiHaMiX> decrease = substract 16.5 from each side :) 20:45:08 <TL|Away> trogdorx: what he wants to say: 8.3 + 8.3 = 16.6. But rounded it gives: 8 + 8 = 17 20:45:26 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: no:) 20:45:32 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: 17 = 16 20:45:41 <TL|Away> okay, true :p 20:45:42 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: 0.5 = -0.5 20:45:43 <TL|Away> my mistake :) 20:45:49 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: 0.25 = 0.25 :) 20:45:59 <TL|Away> that last statement is true very much yes 20:45:59 <TL|Away> :) 20:46:04 <MiHaMiX> 0.25 = 0.5^2 = -0.5^2 20:46:30 <Sacro> true = false 20:46:40 <MiHaMiX> if you substract 16.5 from both sides (17 and 16), you'll get 0.5 = -0.5 20:46:50 <Sacro> which is true 20:46:52 <Sacro> almos 20:46:52 <Sacro> t 20:47:16 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: you are a weirdo 20:47:18 <TL|Away> :p 20:47:29 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: :P 20:47:59 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: no, i'm just a qualified programme designer mathematician, so I knows these jokes :D 20:48:25 <TL|Away> was it a joke?!?!?! :p 20:48:37 <TL|Away> and say that title 3 times fast 20:48:39 <TL|Away> come on 20:48:41 <TL|Away> you can do it :) 20:48:54 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: I can prove you that 2 = infinity, but I'm too lazy to type that much.. it's a geometry-based prove 20:49:06 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: yeah, I can prove that 2 = 3 20:49:21 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: everybody can :D 20:49:28 <TL|Away> not everybody 20:49:31 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181095083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:49:40 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: well, maybe :) 20:49:42 <TL|Away> enough morrons on this world that can't even answer what 1 / 0 results in :) 20:49:47 <Sacro> TL|Away: inf 20:49:51 <Sacro> !calc 1/0 20:49:55 <Sacro> damn, no bot 20:49:58 <MiHaMiX> lol 20:50:06 <TL|Away> Sacro: we will not discuss it again, but not inf :) 20:50:09 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: NaN :D 20:50:11 <TL|Away> undefined is a better answer :) 20:50:11 <[Shaman]> N/A 20:50:18 <MiHaMiX> Not a Number 20:50:29 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: it isn't 'a' number indeed :) 20:50:46 <TL|Away> but okay 20:50:46 <Sacro> hmm 20:50:47 <Sacro> its -1 20:50:51 <TL|Away> maths at 23:00 is bad 20:50:53 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: lol :D 20:51:03 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: you know your a programmer... 20:51:47 <MiHaMiX> Sacro: ok, sorry :) 20:51:49 * Sacro wonders if 2.5TB is enough ram to store 1/0 20:51:50 <TL|Away> http://www.ongein.nl/getItem2.aspx?file=handsupkitty.jpg <- it doesn't matter how many time I watch it, it keeps make me smiling :) 20:51:57 <Sacro> watch? 20:52:08 <TL|Away> make = making, smiling = smile 20:52:11 <TL|Away> view 20:52:11 <TL|Away> what ever 20:52:28 <Sacro> watch seems to give the impression it does something 20:52:36 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: I'll show you something more beautiful :) 20:52:41 <RichK67> hi TL - did you update the MiniIN build frequency? 20:52:50 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: please, keep the pictures of your wife to yourself :p 20:52:56 <TL|Away> RichK67: nope, didn't touch it 20:52:56 <TL|Away> why? 20:52:57 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/l_hazilegy.jpg 20:53:09 <RichK67> i would like to go to Mon am, Weds am, Fri am 20:53:09 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: no, it's not my wife :D 20:53:13 <TL|Away> IT IS A HUGE ASS FLY! 20:53:15 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: instead... TL|Away's wife ;) 20:53:23 <TL|Away> Sacro: yeah... 20:53:27 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: and? :DD is't it nice? :DDDDDDDD 20:53:28 <TL|Away> RichK67: why? :p 20:53:32 <RichK67> all european world cup 20:53:35 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: it is a fly!! 20:53:39 <Sacro> :D3 20:53:51 <RichK67> why? because it would be better at 3x per week :) 20:53:56 <TL|Away> :p 20:53:59 <TL|Away> always more then you get :) 20:54:05 <TL|Away> (always wanting more then you get) 20:54:08 <TL|Away> bah, my english is bad!! 20:54:14 <RichK67> lol 20:54:22 <TL|Away> t 20:54:24 <Sacro> t? 20:54:27 <TL|Away> I hear you say: just his english 20:54:27 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: you doesn't like this fly? :-((( 20:54:31 <TL|Away> yeah, 't' 20:54:43 <TL|Away> "you don't" is the english word 20:54:47 <TL|Away> you doesn't is wrong :p 20:54:55 <MiHaMiX> ehh 20:54:57 <TL|Away> but I do not fancy this fly, no, sorry :) 20:54:57 <MiHaMiX> you don't 20:55:02 <MiHaMiX> it's way too late :D 20:55:07 <Sacro> you do not 20:55:09 <TL|Away> yup :) 20:55:15 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: ok, let me show you something else :D 20:55:40 <TL|Away> RichK67: you now first have to bribe me 20:55:42 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/brutaltux.png 20:55:44 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: now theres anoffer ;) 20:55:54 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2CB16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:55:54 *** dp is now known as dp-- 20:56:21 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: now that I like :) 20:56:58 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/ormanyos.jpg 20:57:00 <TL|Away> RichK67 / peter1138: changed branch compiling to: 20:57:15 <MiHaMiX> TL|Away: or this one: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/pok.jpg 20:57:19 <TL|Away> MiniIN: mon, wed, fri, at 02:00 local server time 20:57:31 <TL|Away> utf8: tue, fri, at 03:00 local server time 20:57:50 <MiHaMiX> yet another funny background: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/ujhatter.jpg 20:57:52 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: I have enough bugs as it is already, thank you 20:57:56 <RichK67> okies :) 20:58:07 <TL|Away> RichK67: does that make you happy? 20:58:13 <TL|Away> I assume your bribe is on his way? 20:58:16 <RichK67> yeah :) 20:58:21 <TL|Away> good 20:58:21 <Sacro> hehe, post it on flyspray 20:58:22 <TL|Away> :p 20:58:29 <RichK67> err... 20:58:31 <Sacro> DV: theres a huge bug :P 20:58:32 <TL|Away> haha 20:58:37 <TL|Away> nailed you there, didn't I RichK67? :) 20:59:08 <[Shaman]> http://www.vandertramp.com/videos/netdown.html 20:59:09 <RichK67> well... im just doing my accounts, and there is nothing left in my bribe fund :) 20:59:26 <TL|Away> RichK67: so I revert the changes, okay, no problem 20:59:32 <TL|Away> :) 20:59:51 <TL|Away> RichK67: how is it going with MiniIN? 21:00:03 <RichK67> pretty good - i think 21:00:56 <RichK67> lots of popular patches going in - the only problem comes when i sync with trunk and corrections have been made to a line that has MiniIN changes... resolving the conflicts is a nightmare 21:01:16 <TL|Away> yup 21:01:21 <TL|Away> but that was to be expected :) 21:01:38 <TL|Away> mister svn does a lot for you 21:01:42 <RichK67> its only the mega-changes like r5391 that cause problems 21:01:43 <TL|Away> but can't do everything :) 21:02:29 <TL|Away> I remembed I once told Tron I was going to commit my indent run on OpenTTD (I was in a funny mood) 21:02:42 <TL|Away> I remember he almost drop dead at the spot, because of all the conflitcs it would cuase 21:02:49 <RichK67> yup 21:02:52 <TL|Away> some weeks later, he himself does such a commit :) 21:02:55 <TL|Away> but oh well, it is needed 21:02:59 <Sacro> wow, what i link 21:03:15 <MiHaMiX> http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/mihamix_avatar.jpg 21:03:17 <RichK67> sometimes... it makes my life hell sorting the mess out though 21:03:30 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: you are so pretty :) 21:03:39 <TL|Away> RichK67: always a problem with a close branch, with many changed lines :) 21:03:52 <TL|Away> reminds me I still have to find a way to make indent indent like I want that 21:03:53 <MiHaMiX> http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/golfball.jpg 21:03:59 <TL|Away> I can't find the profile to match my needs :) 21:04:15 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: auch 21:05:34 <Sacro> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25967 21:05:36 <MiHaMiX> another funny background: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/tmp/darkbliss.jpg 21:06:08 <Sacro> nice 21:06:17 <TL|Away> very cool MiHaMiX 21:06:28 <TL|Away> Sacro: shall we trash that topic immediatly? 21:06:37 <Sacro> TL|Away: hehehe 21:06:41 <Sacro> its asking for it 21:06:49 <MiHaMiX> http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/pojen/bush.jpg 21:06:52 <Sacro> send Dalestan in 21:07:06 <TL|Away> it for sure is asking for it 21:07:12 <TL|Away> I mean, come on, idioits... 21:07:24 <Sacro> yep 21:07:37 <RichK67> LOL - "send Dalestan in"... makes me think of Monty Burns saying "release the hounds" 21:07:42 <MiHaMiX> anoher funny pic from mihamix: http://xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu/~miham/pojen/teamwork.jpg 21:07:57 <TL|Away> MiHaMiX: lol 21:08:15 <Sacro> RichK67: i did think after that, that i should have put "send in the Dalestan" 21:08:39 <TL|Away> Sacro: so many possible replies come in mind 21:08:40 <TL|Away> things like: 21:08:44 <Sacro> MiHaMiX: wasnt that what happen with the channel tunnel? 21:08:44 <TL|Away> "don't start a new game" 21:08:47 <RichK67> "pedants away!!" 21:08:53 <Sacro> "Dont lean on the keyboard" 21:09:10 <TL|Away> "Move your head fast enough to compensate the speed" 21:09:15 <TL|Away> or: "don't move your head" 21:09:27 <Sacro> PEBCAK 21:09:52 <Sacro> insert new user and press any key to continue 21:10:26 <TL|Away> this really is just... 21:10:30 <TL|Away> the signature 21:10:31 <TL|Away> even worse 21:10:42 <TL|Away> hmmz 21:10:46 <TL|Away> in theory I have admin rights 21:10:46 <TL|Away> :p 21:11:03 *** Deeem2031 [n=Miranda@pD95427A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:07 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 21:11:11 * Sacro wants inflatable hammer rights 21:11:27 <Sacro> a giant pink and yellow one 21:11:44 <Sacro> i mean a 4 LETTER SENTANCE 21:11:50 <Sacro> s/letter/word 21:12:01 <Sacro> "when i start a game" 21:12:10 <Sacro> oooh, i could add 4 more words and make it a game :D 21:12:11 <TL|Away> that are 5 words 21:12:21 <Sacro> TL|Away: hush :P 21:12:31 <TL|Away> Sacro: what do you want to add? 21:12:42 <Brianetta> What dod black_nightmare want? 21:12:49 <Sacro> TL|Away: im not sure...theres sooo many repiles 21:12:50 <TL|Away> money? 21:12:57 <TL|Away> Sacro: yeah, I have that problem too 21:12:58 <Sacro> gingerbread men? 21:13:16 <Sacro> TL|Away: copy paste the irc log :) 21:13:27 <TL|Away> After long discussion on #openttd, we decided that there are so many replies possible on this kind of posts, that we will just post all of them: 21:13:30 <TL|Away> I was ahead of you :) 21:13:49 <Sacro> hehe, just about covers it, cos most likely there will be more 21:13:56 <MiHaMiX> okay folks, gn :) 21:14:01 <TL|Away> night MiHaMiX :) 21:14:06 <Sacro> night MiHaMiX 21:15:21 <TL|Away> [23:11:44] <Sacro> i mean a 4 LETTER SENTANCE 21:15:21 <TL|Away> [23:12:01] <Sacro> "when i start a game" 21:15:21 <TL|Away> Really brilliant quote :) 21:15:32 <TL|Away> there are 3 kind of people, those who can count, and those who can't 21:15:35 <Sacro> :o 21:15:55 <Sacro> there are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who dont 21:16:07 <TL|Away> :) 21:16:15 <Sacro> there are 2 groups of people in the world. those who belive the world can be split into 2 groups... 21:16:16 <TL|Away> any one else a reply for mister I can't make a normal topic? 21:16:36 <Sacro> shall we involve #tycoon? 21:16:59 * Sacro reckons we'd get some more answers 21:17:16 <TL|Away> :) You mean this is a boring channel? :p 21:17:34 <Sacro> nooooooo, they are just more...random and off topic 21:18:10 <TL|Away> true :) 21:20:50 <TL|Away> boring boring boring people.. 110 people in chan, and just 2 talking... :( 21:21:29 <Sacro> TL|Away: hehe, wait for him to reply 21:21:50 <TL|Away> Sacro: maybe he doesn't know how to do that 21:21:58 <TL|Away> I think the forum keeps on scrolling in front of his face 21:22:03 <TL|Away> hard to press thhe right button 21:22:16 <Sacro> TL|Away: well...he did post a topic 21:22:30 <Sacro> there should be an IQ test instead of a captcha 21:22:36 <TL|Away> :) 21:23:52 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 21:24:07 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:26:44 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:26:49 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:27:02 *** _bitwise [n=_bitwise@ipa97.8.tellas.gr] has left #openttd [] 21:27:27 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:29:41 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 21:30:40 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 21:32:00 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:36:58 <TL|Away> I remember days where you could have long long talks in this channel 21:37:00 <TL|Away> with many many people 21:37:12 <Sacro> ahh the good old days 21:37:14 <TL|Away> these days there are more people sitting here never saying anything 21:37:16 <TL|Away> then something else 21:37:23 <Sacro> TL|Away: /ping #openttd :) 21:37:25 <TL|Away> I really wonder what would happen if we +v everyone who said something 21:37:32 <TL|Away> I think about 80% of the channel will be -v 21:37:37 <Sacro> most likely 21:38:04 <Sacro> !stats 21:38:10 <Sacro> damnit, wheres that bot 21:38:15 <TL|Away> reminds me of the Monthy Python scatch, about the invisible man 21:38:31 <TL|Away> "and here I sit, talking, but everyone ignores me, so I am invisible, nobody notices me" 21:38:32 <hylje> python ftw 21:38:33 <Sacro> hehe, monty python is amazing 21:38:33 <hylje> :> 21:38:39 <TL|Away> (someone tlaking with a REALLY boring voice) 21:38:42 *** angerman [n=angerman@e181095083.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #openttd [] 21:38:59 <TL|Away> Belgium is airing them again, finally (flying circus) 21:39:02 <TL|Away> just lvoely :) 21:40:11 <Sacro> yay 21:40:19 <Sacro> my mates got the full flying circus box set 21:41:19 <TL|Away> why btw doesn't linux make a backup save on segfault or assert? 21:41:20 <RichK67> the larch 21:41:24 <TL|Away> OEH! I want to have that box too!! 21:41:28 <TL|Away> but I don't want to spend money on it :) 21:41:31 <TL|Away> RichK67: indeed, THE LARCH! 21:41:37 <TL|Away> or: SPANISH INQUISITION! 21:41:46 <TL|Away> Or I slap you with a fish :p 21:41:50 <RichK67> nobody expects the spanish inquisition 21:41:56 <TL|Away> "Today we are going to talk about dejavu" 21:42:51 <Sacro> hehd 21:43:03 <Sacro> i miss my movies set :( have to fork out another £20 for it 21:44:26 <TL|Away> hehe 21:45:51 <Sacro> ooh a set of free patches for timidity, i think they should be on the wiki 21:45:58 <Sacro> http://freepats.opensrc.org/ 21:46:25 <TL|Away> I really wonder why SIGINT isn't captured and a savegame is made in case that happens 21:46:29 <TL|Away> or in case of an assert() 21:46:53 <C-Funky> who knows minGW good here and can help me? 21:47:15 <TL|Away> C-Funky: I guess it depends on your question 21:47:52 <C-Funky> hmm 21:47:52 <Sacro> arrgh, hes back 21:47:59 <Sacro> TL|Away: code it 21:48:32 <TL|Away> Sacro: yeah, possible... 21:48:32 <C-Funky> i just don't understand the process, i save a .diff file or .patch file from the forums on my comp, now what do i to to compile it? 21:48:39 <TL|Away> if openttd wouldn't have C++ in it, I would have done it 21:48:57 <TL|Away> C-Funky: has little to do with mingw, so your begin question was misleading, not to say wrong :) 21:49:07 <TL|Away> next time, ask the question, not try to find out who has knowledge about something you have not :p 21:49:08 <TL|Away> hehe 21:49:13 <TL|Away> anyway, there is a wiki entry about it I believe 21:49:17 <Sacro> TL|Away: its an opensource OS, and an opensource game :P 21:49:18 <TL|Away> but you need a program called 'patch' 21:49:55 <C-Funky> yeah the entry on wiki it totally usless... 21:50:04 <TL|Away> then someone should update it :) Hehehe! 21:50:18 <C-Funky> and it depends on 3 files from a zip file which my computer finds as corrupted... 21:50:26 <TL|Away> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/FAQ_development#How_to_apply_a_patch.3F 21:50:39 <TL|Away> yeah, then we can stop trying, if you can't open your .zip :) 21:51:31 <TL|Away> (is it really a .zip? Not a .tar.gz or .tar.bz2? :p) 21:51:47 <TL|Away> (btw, for mingw, follow linux way) 21:51:58 <C-Funky> nope, simple zip 21:52:10 <TL|Away> then we can try long and short how you should apply a patch 21:52:14 <TL|Away> but if you can't open the .zip 21:52:19 <TL|Away> we aren't going anywhere till you can 21:52:25 <C-Funky> http://www.tt-forums.net/download.php?id=47131 21:52:27 <TL|Away> so go back to the source and figure out why you can't open a .zip 21:52:43 <C-Funky> i can open a zip, this specific one is corrupted... 21:52:53 <TL|Away> so, contact the creator of the zip 21:52:57 <TL|Away> we can't help you with that at all 21:53:57 <C-Funky> yeah i guess... 21:54:20 <TL|Away> people did a nice job on wiki :) 21:54:41 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 21:57:21 <C-Funky> ok 21:57:27 <C-Funky> it writes svn not found... 21:57:35 <TL|Away> install subversion 21:57:56 <C-Funky> step by step? 21:58:12 <TL|Away> no, just the package :) Should be on the wiki 21:58:19 <C-Funky> tolstoie? 21:58:26 <TL|Away> no, the mingw 21:58:29 <TL|Away> see the wiki or forum post 21:58:31 <TL|Away> it tells that 21:58:53 <C-Funky> yeah, i know it tells you to unzip it into your user folder in the mysys, i did so and it doesn't work... 21:59:10 <RichK67> bbl 21:59:12 <Sacro> :D MIDI 21:59:12 *** RichK67 [n=RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [] 21:59:14 <TL|Away> then I can't help you, sorry :) 22:00:01 <Sacro> ahh, what crappy quality they really are 22:00:48 <Sacro> i think mod files are so much nicer 22:00:57 *** e1ko_AfK [n=31k0@a02-0432c.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.1/2006040505]"] 22:01:04 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@70-94.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:01:22 <TL|Away> night all 22:01:26 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:02:51 <Sacro> TL|Away: night 22:02:54 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 22:03:53 <Sacro> why does OpenTTD lag so much :( 22:04:05 <Sacro> i dont see why i should have to use -m null -s null 22:04:32 <Sacro> strangley it sounds better on this laptop with some free patch files, than on my desktop with an Audity 22:04:34 <Sacro> *Audigy 22:06:40 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@70-94.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.4/2006050817]"] 22:07:19 *** Ammler [n=chatzill@70-94.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:07:25 <[Shaman]> midi sounds crap on a 64-bit sound system :P 22:07:37 <hylje> :b 22:07:46 <[Shaman]> whereas laptop speakers are usually crap and capable of just 32b sound 22:07:54 <Sacro> [Shaman]: possibly true 22:07:55 <[Shaman]> which is much closer to midi 22:08:17 <Sacro> yeah 22:08:20 <Sacro> i prefermod 22:10:36 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 22:12:27 <ln-> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/06-30-06-movies/Illuminaughty.jpg 22:12:46 <hylje> ah 22:14:20 <Sacro> ? 22:14:23 *** Deeem2031 [n=Miranda@pD95427A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:14:34 <Sacro> it all makes sense 22:15:40 <hylje> no 22:17:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> [2006-07-01 22:51] * Sacro wonders if 2.5TB is enough ram to store 1/0 <- storing "1/0" takes exactly 4 byte ;) (3 characters and a string length, or alternatively a closing 0-byte) 22:18:04 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause2: ooooh, your right 22:29:32 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 22:29:36 <C-Funky> ok i'm back 22:29:40 <C-Funky> anyone here? 22:29:43 <C-Funky> TL|Away? 22:29:51 <C-Funky> Sacro? 22:33:59 <Brianetta> nobody here 22:34:06 <Brianetta> try #openttdcoop 22:34:36 <C-Funky> Brianetta 22:34:45 <C-Funky> i have just a little question, in the mingw 22:35:00 <C-Funky> there's this stage in the wiki where it tells you to go to OpenTTD build directory 22:35:08 <C-Funky> what is this directory? 22:35:44 <Brianetta> When you unpack the source 22:35:50 <Brianetta> you have a directory full of stuff 22:35:53 <Brianetta> That's it 22:36:10 <C-Funky> unpack what source? 22:36:20 <Sacro> C-Funky: ? 22:36:24 <C-Funky> hey 22:36:26 <Brianetta> What are you reading? 22:36:34 <Sacro> the daily star 22:36:35 <C-Funky> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24533 22:36:48 <C-Funky> Code: 22:36:49 <C-Funky> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:36:49 <C-Funky> Change to OpenTTD build directory 22:36:56 <C-Funky> i have no idea what this means... 22:36:56 <Brianetta> Oh, you're using svn 22:37:09 <Brianetta> trunk is the build directory 22:37:40 <C-Funky> which is? my ottd is installed in c:/games/openttd... 22:37:50 <Brianetta> Delete that. 22:37:54 <Brianetta> Well, ignore it. 22:38:00 <Brianetta> It's nothing to do with building a new one. 22:38:18 <Brianetta> Nothing at all. 22:38:34 <Brianetta> What happened when you typed in the command? 22:38:38 <Brianetta> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:38:42 <Brianetta> ?? 22:39:00 <Sacro> hehe, its like ssh but sooo much slower 22:39:37 <C-Funky> i need to go to a certain folder... what folder is it? where should it be? where ym game is installed? or somewhere around the msys? 22:39:37 <hylje> in linux compiling a new build is dead easy 22:39:43 <Brianetta> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:39:43 <Brianetta> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:39:43 <Brianetta> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:39:43 <Brianetta> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 22:39:47 <Brianetta> THAT IS YOUR FOLDER 22:39:54 <Brianetta> It's being SPOON FED to you# 22:39:58 <Brianetta> sorry 22:40:09 <C-Funky> no such file or directory... 22:40:13 <C-Funky> this is what it sais... 22:40:40 <Brianetta> type ls 22:40:42 <Brianetta> ls 22:40:49 <Brianetta> past the output here 22:40:50 <hylje> Brianetta: hes on windows, duh 22:40:56 <Brianetta> hylje: He's in mingw 22:40:59 <hylje> k 22:41:10 <C-Funky> mingw on windows 22:41:32 <Brianetta> Did you run ls? 22:42:11 <C-Funky> what is ls? 22:42:17 <Brianetta> it's like dir 22:42:20 <Sacro> man ls 22:42:20 <Brianetta> unly unixy 22:42:26 <Sacro> only better :P 22:42:53 *** Naksu_ [i=naksu@anime.fi] has joined #openttd 22:43:00 <Brianetta> while you're at it, type pwd 22:43:06 <Brianetta> and tell us what *it* says, too 22:43:23 <C-Funky> it sais: 22:44:14 <C-Funky> /home/ %. ... s | 22:44:50 <Sacro> :S? that aint valid 22:44:59 <C-Funky> i guess this jebrish stuff is my user folder.. i have no idea why it's in jebrish... i use english windows and my user acount is in english... 22:45:22 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 22:45:22 <C-Funky> 22:45:28 <C-Funky> this is what it sais excatly 22:45:32 <black_Nightmare> when anyone seen pikka? 22:46:49 <Sacro> black_Nightmare: i got him online on msn currently i think 22:46:56 <Sacro> hmm, why the UTF-8 22:47:04 <Sacro> or am i missing a charset 22:47:09 <black_Nightmare> could you check if he's still online? if so you mind forwarding a quick question for me? 22:47:19 <Sacro> yeah, he's there 22:47:23 *** Naksu [i=naksu@anime.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:47:38 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: You were after me earlier, I'm told 22:47:47 <black_Nightmare> ask if he might know anything about using the uk trainset without the maglevs'? 22:47:57 <Sacro> Brianetta: yes, im his secretary 22:48:07 <black_Nightmare> LOL 22:48:08 <C-Funky> Sacro: no i don't think so, i don't know how to change the user name... 22:48:11 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: Only option is to use an old version 22:48:33 <Brianetta> Even if the grf is configurable, openttd doesn't configure grfs very well 22:48:44 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 22:48:45 <black_Nightmare> brianetta....crap....meh...not using pikka's trainset -or- not using the serbian NG trainset (which replaces maglev) .... decisions decisions!!! 22:49:04 <Brianetta> Pikka's maglevs rule 22:49:12 <Brianetta> anyway 22:49:14 <black_Nightmare> I can't get the NG trainset to replace monorail instead (it requires unifiedmaglev to be enabled in ttdxc so) 22:49:17 <Brianetta> UK *and* Serbian? 22:49:33 <Brianetta> UKRS replaces monorail already 22:49:36 *** thgergo [n=th_gergo@dsl51B78840.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [No route to host] 22:49:53 <Sacro> UKRS doesnt have monorail does it? 22:50:14 <Brianetta> No - because it needs the IDs for real trains. 22:50:18 <black_Nightmare> brianetta... wile released two serbian trainsets.. one is a lengthy serbian standard gauge trainset and other is a small NG serbian trainset that replaces the maglev list (together with ngrailsw.grf to replace track&depot) 22:50:32 <black_Nightmare> I quite like the NG set so..go figure 22:50:37 <Brianetta> (: 22:50:51 <Brianetta> Unfortunately, it would seem that they aren't compatible - although you could try simply loading both 22:50:58 <Brianetta> load UKRS first, then Serbian 22:51:13 <Brianetta> it should overload some UKRS trains (including maglevs, if you'r elucky) 22:51:16 <Sacro> it seems its to with ID's 22:51:28 <black_Nightmare> I'm already looking at alternative trainsets now just in case....the north america one I may try .. I dunno .. I just liked pikka's trains but I dunno so...well..you know 22:51:30 <Sacro> same as the fun we had wiht London Underground trains 22:51:31 * black_Nightmare blabs :p 22:51:42 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: Just try it 22:51:47 <Brianetta> UKRS first, Serbian second 22:51:55 <black_Nightmare> and for the record if anyone wanted to know: I have -all- plane and ship id full :)) .. got love that 22:52:04 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...yeah I'll try that already but just in case :p 22:53:28 <black_Nightmare> planesetw_459.grf + newshipsw.grf + 777_gr_107.grf = :D 22:53:47 <black_Nightmare> its a bit funny... cruise ship holds 400 passengers but is quite slow like a real huge cruiser would be 22:53:54 <black_Nightmare> think was like 42km/h or something 22:54:00 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:54:20 <Brianetta> slow passengers means low profit 22:54:26 <Brianetta> They aren't there for the view 22:54:46 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 22:54:54 <black_Nightmare> I know but when you think about it....putting it in the game maybe didn't seem like bad idea... could relieve a overpiling airport 22:55:21 <black_Nightmare> its better than the original two passenger ships which only held 100 or 130 passengers at similar slow speed respectly 22:56:09 <black_Nightmare> I didn't check if they had any fast passenger ships (alak the original hover ship) 22:56:11 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:57:16 <black_Nightmare> anyway brianetta..I think what I was looking for you for was...I had to ask just when the server resets because this is the third time I've tried check it out and saw its way past year 2020 again as usual 22:57:24 <black_Nightmare> I'm only curious 22:57:39 <Brianetta> As it says on the page 22:57:43 <Brianetta> When I update it, 22:57:47 <Brianetta> I check the year. 22:58:01 <Brianetta> If it's beyond 2050 when I do so, I start a new game. 22:59:07 <black_Nightmare> hm...what year is the current game now? :p 23:01:10 *** GoneWacko [n=gonewack@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit ["It's a new quit message!"] 23:01:12 <Brianetta> It was 2048 when I updated. 23:01:21 <Brianetta> That was hours ago. 23:01:34 <Brianetta> I will next update when a new nightly is released, 23:01:39 <Brianetta> and that will be a new game. 23:02:02 <Brianetta> Is this unclear somehow? 23:03:26 <black_Nightmare> if you say so..ok then 23:03:44 <black_Nightmare> maybe I'll try one last time monday lunchtime and see :p 23:04:44 <Brianetta> If you want a new game, simply get here at or after 18:00 GMT. 23:04:59 <Brianetta> I update manually, so I can't guarantee an immediate update 23:05:07 <black_Nightmare> ughh....what was that in east coast north america time again? :)) ... *is always lost by time zone heh* 23:05:10 <Brianetta> but that point is when I check the game date. 23:05:27 <Brianetta> What's your plu/minus hours? 23:05:55 <Brianetta> I think east coast is -5 23:06:06 <black_Nightmare> right now its a few minutes past 7pm (thats 19:00 I believe) 23:06:13 <Brianetta> so that would be 13:00 GMT 23:06:24 <Brianetta> so that would be 13:00 EST even 23:06:29 <Brianetta> at 18:00 GMT 23:06:38 <Brianetta> Yes, you'r e-5 23:06:58 <black_Nightmare> ah ok....guess I'll check on monday and see 23:06:59 <Brianetta> You should probably pencil that onto your monitor's surround 23:07:04 <Brianetta> "I am in UTC-5" 23:07:10 <Brianetta> or GMT-5 23:07:24 <black_Nightmare> fair enough 23:07:46 <Brianetta> Monday will likely be a late game 23:07:53 <Brianetta> since tomorrow's update will be a new one 23:08:02 <black_Nightmare> oh tomorrow? hm I'll check tomorrow then 23:08:33 <Sacro> hey, its tommorow here 23:09:13 <Brianetta> It's tomorrow here, too, locally 23:09:13 <black_Nightmare> sacro....very funny 23:09:16 <black_Nightmare> :p 23:10:16 <Sacro> Brianetta: strange how its tommorow there too 23:10:20 <black_Nightmare> its like 290 minutes to the start of sunday here :p 23:10:34 <Sacro> but tommorow in relation to who... 23:12:16 <Brianetta> Sat Jul 1 23:12:09 UTC 2006 23:12:21 <Brianetta> It's still today 23:12:34 <black_Nightmare> ;) 23:13:11 <Brianetta> Sun Jul 2 00:13:10 BST 2006 23:13:15 <Brianetta> Locally, it's tomorrow 23:13:23 <Brianetta> Stupid "daylight saving" 23:13:29 <Brianetta> It's amoronic idea 23:13:32 * Sacro is confused 23:13:48 *** Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:13:50 <Sacro> a site asked me earlier what timezone i was in, i wsnt sure...i answered GMT 23:13:52 <Brianetta> Sacro: That didn't take much... 23:13:55 <black_Nightmare> well...it seem to make sense tho 23:13:59 <Brianetta> We aren't GMT 23:14:07 <Brianetta> We're GMT for five months in winter 23:14:13 <Brianetta> BST for seven months in summer 23:14:27 <Brianetta> BST = British Stupid Time 23:14:36 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 23:21:12 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 23:21:47 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 23:28:48 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 23:30:23 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 23:51:32 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 23:52:06 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit []