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:) 06:24:43 <TrueLight> temp outside is increasing fast 06:24:49 <TrueLight> can't say that makes me really happy 06:27:11 <peter1138> alright 06:27:22 <peter1138> going to be stuck in an airconditioned office 06:27:28 <TrueLight> good for you :) 06:29:20 <peter1138> no doubt i'm going to get really pissed off with our salespeople today 06:29:24 <peter1138> and all week 06:29:36 <TrueLight> what did the sales people do wrong? 06:29:47 <peter1138> nothing yet ;) 06:29:58 <TrueLight> what will they do wrong? :p 06:30:03 <peter1138> just i have a vitally important project to complete this week 06:30:16 <peter1138> and i know they'll be pestering me about their tiny jobs just to get their commission 06:31:15 <TrueLight> what is your job? :p 06:32:42 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:33:06 <peter1138> software developer, mostly 06:33:10 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:33:39 <peter1138> and no, my project is not openttd 06:33:43 <peter1138> although... :) 06:33:45 <TrueLight> hehe 06:37:04 <TrueLight> my package system is a bit confused 06:37:15 <TrueLight> it wants to install libpng 1.2.12 06:37:18 <TrueLight> then it thinks 06:37:21 <TrueLight> no awit, I want 1.2.8-r1 06:37:27 <TrueLight> and it keeps up that job infinite :) 06:38:25 <TrueLight> btw, topic states we have a release, but are the files released?! 06:38:28 <TrueLight> (lol, SF is down again :p) 06:43:03 <peter1138> again? heh 06:43:29 <TrueLight> again indeed :P 07:03:41 <TrueLight> I really love bug-hunting, call me crazy, but that always makes me happy :) 07:03:53 <TrueLight> (I mean it, call me crazy) 07:07:01 <scia> I know that some people collect butterflies, but bugs is new for me... 07:07:04 <scia> :p 07:07:09 <TrueLight> :) 07:07:13 <TrueLight> I have a house full of them 07:07:20 <TrueLight> just leave the light on at night 07:07:24 <TrueLight> collection full :) 07:07:33 <TrueLight> (and doors open) 07:08:00 <scia> I'd rather not. It would bug me :D 07:08:34 <TrueLight> argh, this website does something weird.. it redirects me to a page, and I have NO IDEA WHY :p 07:15:13 *** Trenskow^ [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:21:23 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:28:28 <TrueLight> shine, make you wonder what you got, make you wish they were not on the outside looking bored 07:28:30 <TrueLight> (8) 07:28:40 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #openttd 07:38:50 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:42:14 *** Zerot [i=Zerot@g35026.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:46:08 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 07:55:11 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 07:57:57 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 07:58:39 *** Osai^2 [n=Osai@p54B37817.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:01:56 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [n=johekr@p54B767E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:03:41 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-217-34-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:05:57 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 08:07:41 *** Jezral [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 08:08:45 *** TinoDidri [n=projectj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10:19 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:16:04 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:18:40 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:19:25 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Client Quit] 08:20:46 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B75FAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:21:20 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:28:19 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:31:09 *** kujeger_work [n=kujeger@pc-99-88.p52.hio.no] has joined #openttd 08:33:32 *** [Shaman] [n=nnscript@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:36:30 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:39:25 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83B55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd ["icebears... take care of them!"] 08:39:49 <peter1138> moo 08:40:13 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83B55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:12 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D1BC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:45:04 <CIA-3> miham * r5451 /trunk/lang/unfinished/ (bulgarian.txt lithuanian.txt): 08:45:04 <CIA-3> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-07-03 10:40:05 08:45:04 <CIA-3> bulgarian - 88 fixed, 1 changed by quicksilverbg (89) 08:45:04 <CIA-3> lithuanian - 7 fixed by Plyta (7) 09:02:15 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-1-8.easynet.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:10:37 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 09:13:51 *** MiHaMiX [n=miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 09:15:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o MiHaMiX] by ChanServ 09:15:58 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:16:07 <MiHaMiX> Total I18N Status: 94% - 4215 bad strings out of 73528 strings 09:16:42 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 09:16:55 *** tjansson [n=tjansson@82.143.240.103] has joined #openttd 09:19:47 <tjansson> Why is it stated that the original version of Transport Tycon is need to use openttd, when one can download everything that is need from the autopackages project homepage? Evry thing need to play the game is her:http://www.familie-kirchhofer.de/openttd/autopackage/ 09:20:23 <Prof_Frink> Because the autopackage is illegal? 09:20:53 <Prof_Frink> You need the original game for the copyrighted data files, which cannot be distributed. 09:22:26 <TinoM> yeah, in fact there are many web sites where you can dl ttd and or the data-files, but that are all illegal offers ;) 09:22:30 <tjansson> is it really illegal? that is to sad - then everybody forget that i said anything :D 09:23:02 <tjansson> Why don't the just make it abandonware - the game is so great 09:23:13 <TinoM> most ppl seem to think, it is a ten year old game, so nobody cares ;) 09:23:17 <Prof_Frink> tjansson: There is no such thing as abandonware 09:24:21 <tjansson> Prof_Frink: oh, maybe I misunderstood something I just thougt that some games are abandooned after some while and becomes free 09:24:28 <tjansson> Prof_Frink: Look at http://www.abandonia.com/index2.php 09:26:02 <Zr40> games are abandoned after some while, true, but that doesn't automatically make them free 09:26:28 <Prof_Frink> tjansson: Unless the owning company explicitly makes the game available, it is copyrighted until god-knows-when, regardless of what some people think. 09:26:35 *** Nubian [n=nubian@193.93.73.116] has joined #openttd 09:27:11 <Prof_Frink> The only thing is, after a point it becomes non-economical to try to shut down infringing sites 09:28:02 <tjansson> Prof_Frink: ok I didn't know - but glad that somebody is doing some twighlight work to put ttd out there ! :D 09:29:12 <Prof_Frink> tjansson: Evel looked at topic 3407 on the forums? 09:29:27 <tjansson> no - will do 09:33:30 <tjansson> aha - so I not the first :D 09:35:44 <tjansson> It is just a shame that people that doesn't know that the game is availble in different ways will think that they need to buy a version the original game but I guess that openttd can write that due to legal threaths? 09:38:46 *** ThePizzaKing_ [n=thepizza@c211-28-155-219.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:38:47 <Prof_Frink> tjansson: As you pointed out, it's not exactly hard to find it online 09:39:06 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-165-190.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:39:16 *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing 09:40:31 <tjansson> Actually in the newest issue of tux magazine I wrote a letter telling howto install the full game using autopackage, so maybe more people will play it now 09:44:37 <ln-> the legalness of openttd itself is not quite clear either. 09:44:37 <peter1138> legally you *do* have a buy a version of the origianl game 09:46:56 <toweri> ln-: How so? 09:47:04 *** Xaroth [n=shaman@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:40 <ln-> because it 1) contains code that is disassembled from the original TTD binary, 2) is quite an exact copy of TTD, with not many fundamentally new ideas. 09:50:59 <toweri> ln-: Case 1 is disputable at least in europe (you can disassemble to make a derivative work, despite what the license says), 2) so what? 09:51:32 <toweri> It doesn't claim to be the original TTD, so at least I don't see the problem with no. 2. 09:52:46 <ln-> toweri: ok. so you write a book, then i write a book with exactly the same plot, and a lot of sentences copied verbatim. but i don't claim it's your book. everything is fine? 09:54:36 <ln-> and you couldn't possibly have anything to complain about in that situation? 09:56:28 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:56:34 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 09:58:41 *** Prof_Frink [n=proffrin@tnt-1-8.easynet.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:00:54 <ln-> he's so silent now. 10:02:37 *** Xaroth_ [n=shaman@ip503c1f52.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:03:01 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 10:03:29 *** The-Moon_ [n=The-Moon@c-68-45-84-249.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 10:06:42 *** tjansson [n=tjansson@82.143.240.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:11:03 <TinoM> so, still no 0.4.8-rc1-binaries on sf? 10:16:05 *** Frostregen_ [i=SADDAM@dslb-084-058-182-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:30 *** Wolfy [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:17:05 *** Damme__ [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:17:05 *** Frostregen [n=sucks@dslb-084-058-182-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:17:05 *** Damme [n=damme@c-c592e455.41-0185-74657210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:17:13 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 10:20:40 <ln-> toweri: ? 10:25:34 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:27:15 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 10:28:32 <k-man> so how do i work out a good place to take "goods" 10:28:33 <k-man> ? 10:30:09 *** Osai is now known as Osai^work 10:30:43 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:30:48 *** Mucht|zZz [n=Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 10:32:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> one with lots of office buildings ;) 10:32:54 <k-man> how do i find one? 10:32:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> use the query tool to find out which buildings accept goods 10:33:00 <k-man> oh... 10:33:12 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@a61229.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:33:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> usually they take 2/8 goods or 3/8 goods 10:33:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> they must add up to at least 8/8 (=1) 10:34:03 <k-man> ok 10:34:09 <k-man> so the bigger the town the better? 10:34:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes 10:35:02 <k-man> is there a way to list towns by size? 10:35:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> the town list is supposed to be sortable, i believe 10:44:53 <k-man> yeah 10:44:55 <k-man> it is 10:44:56 <k-man> thanks 10:45:05 <k-man> so i have a factory, that is producing 0 crates of goods 10:45:11 <k-man> is that because nothing is coming to pick them up? 10:45:51 <k-man> or its missing some ingredient ? 10:46:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> you have to deliver something to factories 10:47:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> it does not matter which of the 3 cargos 10:47:15 <k-man> im delivering lots of rubber to it 10:47:18 <k-man> ok 10:47:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> oh... not temperate 10:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> but yes, you also have to send something to pick it up before the station loads goods 10:48:44 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:48:49 *** _Red [n=Red@81-86-117-11.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 10:50:16 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:58:01 *** zemei [n=zemei@dsl5400E8FE.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:01:52 <k-man> so if a building takes 1 thing of goods 11:02:07 <k-man> does that mean dropping 200 tonnes of goods at that station is probably not such a good idea? 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13:06:17 <Sacro> os? 13:06:39 <Sacro> hmm, none are 13:07:35 <TrueLight> is SF back up?! : 13:07:36 <TrueLight> p 13:07:45 <peter1138> i don't quite know why it was announced without being uploaded first... 13:08:01 <TrueLight> peter1138: darkvater was in a hurrt 13:08:03 <TrueLight> hurry 13:08:04 <Sacro> peter1138: thats true 13:08:42 <Sacro> wow - http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=25997 a WAV file :) 13:08:47 <Sacro> you seen it TrueLight ? 13:08:52 <TrueLight> Sacro: I replied to it, so I guess 13:09:02 <Sacro> ah yes...so you have! 13:13:05 <peter1138> so what does it sound like? heh 13:14:30 <Sacro> well it doesnt sound like it does here, i have to play with -m null -s null, and im not sure why 13:14:30 <TrueLight> like a cow: MUUUUHHHHHH 13:15:22 *** Mukke [i=Mukke@x1-6-00-13-8f-3d-00-a9.k146.webspeed.dk] has quit [] 13:16:18 *** Sian^_^ [n=Devilen@cpe.atm2-0-74539.0x50c6d2c6.virnxx17.customer.tele.dk] has quit [] 13:16:48 <peter1138> i found sounds fuck up in windows if i switch from window to fullscreen 13:17:19 <kbrooks> heh 13:18:34 <Sacro> im in linux, how do i set which output SDL uses? 13:18:56 <Sacro> or find out what the default one is...cos i keep having fights between ALSA, OSS, ESD, and occasionally Arts joins in 13:19:02 <Sacro> as well as JACK 13:21:58 <Oak_> compile sdl with only alsa support 13:22:46 <guru3> Sacro: there should be an environment variable for it 13:23:42 <peter1138> export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=foo 13:23:44 <peter1138> i think 13:23:49 <guru3> that could be it 13:23:52 <guru3> SDL_ something for sure 13:24:10 <Sacro> think i need to figure out dmix 13:24:35 <peter1138> just get an sb live 13:24:42 <peter1138> hardware mixing with nothing special :) 13:25:18 <Sacro> my desktop has an audigy 13:25:23 <Sacro> but im on my laptop now 13:28:49 <kbrooks> curious. does i++ mean: increment i, then return that? 13:29:13 <ln-> no 13:29:19 <kbrooks> wait. no. tht doesnt maake sense 13:30:05 <kbrooks> so i++ means "increment i, when the current value of i is returned" 13:30:07 <TrueLight> wasn't the sdl driver that you could control via openttd like: --s sdl=alsa 13:30:08 <TrueLight> or something? 13:30:30 <kbrooks> TrueLight: -s sdl 13:30:42 <TrueLight> kbrooks: easier, avoid such statements at all 13:30:42 <Kjetil> ++i = increment i and return the new value , i++ = increment i and return the previous value 13:31:03 <TrueLight> kbrooks: don't talk if you don't understand what I try to say :) Your comment is kind of.. silly :p 13:31:09 <kbrooks> Kjetil: i++ means ... 13:31:28 <kbrooks> Kjetil: x = i; i = i + 1; return x 13:31:41 <Kjetil> ( 1++ returns 1 , ++1 returns 2 ) 13:31:45 <kbrooks> Kjetil: something like that 13:31:51 <Sacro> noooo it doesnt 13:32:06 <kbrooks> heh 13:32:08 <Sacro> nothing gets returned unless you specify return 13:32:18 <kbrooks> Sacro: grr... 13:32:19 <Sacro> it just either pre or post increments 13:32:29 <kbrooks> Sacro: "gives", then? 13:32:42 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 13:32:42 <TrueLight> int test1() { int i = 1; return i++; } 13:32:42 <TrueLight> int test2() { int i = 1; return ++i; } 13:32:42 <TrueLight> int main() { printf("%d %d\n", test1(), test2()); return 0; } 13:32:45 <TrueLight> returns '1 2' 13:32:46 <Kjetil> Sacro: ok.. return i++ , returns i+1 13:32:47 <C-Funky> hi 13:32:48 <TrueLight> so, now we can continue 13:32:58 <Sacro> Triffid_Hunter: yes, that makes sense 13:33:09 <C-Funky> heh 13:33:11 <C-Funky> tr... 13:33:14 <Sacro> Kjetil: then conversley, ++i = 1 + i ? 13:33:40 <Kjetil> Sacro: ehm.. sorry about that 13:34:00 <Kjetil> Sacro: return ++i, returns i+1, and return i++ returns i 13:34:01 <Sacro> Kjetil: no it'd return 1, but i would be incremented after the return 13:34:03 <TrueLight> (when you doubt about such statements, just make a small program that tests it, then you now instantly) 13:34:30 <C-Funky> Code: 13:34:30 <C-Funky> cd ../OpenTTD/trunk 13:34:30 <C-Funky> Change to OpenTTD build directory 13:34:36 <C-Funky> can anyone explain me the meaning of this? 13:34:37 <Sacro> i think at the end of TrueLight's example, both i's would be 2, just 1 was incremented before and 1 after 13:34:48 <TrueLight> Sacro: after a return the i has no value 13:34:51 <Sacro> C-Funky: cd - change directory, followed by the path to change to 13:34:52 <TrueLight> so you are wrong, but okay :p 13:35:05 <Sacro> TrueLight: well...you know what i mean, use externs and i, j 13:35:12 <TrueLight> hehe :) Then you are right :) 13:35:39 <C-Funky> yeah ../openttd/trunk is an invalid directory... 13:35:44 <C-Funky> i know cd is change directory... 13:36:03 <TrueLight> int i = 1; 13:36:03 <TrueLight> int test1() { i = 1; return i++; } 13:36:03 <TrueLight> int test2() { i = 1; return ++i; } 13:36:03 <TrueLight> int main() { printf("%d %d\n", test1(), i); printf("%d %d\n", test2(), i); return 0; } 13:36:09 <TrueLight> returns: 13:36:09 <TrueLight> 1 13:36:11 <TrueLight> 1 2 13:36:12 <TrueLight> 2 2 13:36:16 <TrueLight> (don't mind the first 1 :p) 13:36:22 <Sacro> and then 0 ;) 13:36:33 <TrueLight> no, that is a return value 13:36:34 <TrueLight> idiot :) 13:36:40 <Sacro> but it still gets returned 13:36:51 <TrueLight> stdout returns 13:36:52 <TrueLight> :p 13:37:25 <Sacro> hehe 13:37:28 <Sacro> or stderr 13:37:32 <TrueLight> no, stdout 13:37:35 <TrueLight> stderr is empty 13:37:46 <C-Funky> .configure command not found?! 13:37:58 <Kjetil> C-Funky: try ./configure 13:38:07 <Sacro> ./ 13:38:22 <TrueLight> I love small test programs :) 13:38:35 <Sacro> yeah me too, i love trying to crash linux 13:38:43 <C-Funky> i did 13:39:00 <TrueLight> Sacro: I have a USB device which does that every single time :p 13:39:08 <TrueLight> working with ndiswrapper author to fix it, but it is a bitch 13:39:18 <Sacro> the thing is, windows is killed by 1/0, linux just says "whoops" and carries on 13:39:18 <C-Funky> ohh well misstyped it 13:39:29 <C-Funky> anywayz, i don't know which directory should i be in to configure... 13:39:30 <Sacro> TrueLight: i have no problems with ndiswrapper here, but its a pcmcia device 13:39:41 <TrueLight> Sacro: USB + 64bit is not official supported 13:39:46 <TrueLight> simply because it crashes :p 13:39:52 <TrueLight> so I am trying to find out why... 13:39:56 <Sacro> hehe, sounds like windows 95 13:39:58 <TrueLight> smells like a nasty buffer overflow 13:40:00 <TrueLight> but oh well 13:40:10 <Kjetil> C-Funky: the openttd source directory 13:40:36 <C-Funky> the directory where i saved the source i want to change? 13:40:40 <TrueLight> C-Funky: mostly when you come at the point you can't get ./configure to work, it is a good time to step back and let the development of the game to others :) Really :) 13:41:00 <C-Funky> i don't want to develope, i just wanted to patch my version... 13:41:07 <TrueLight> the same, the same... 13:41:45 <Sacro> you dont need to run ./configure do you? 13:42:17 <C-Funky> well thats what they say here:http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 13:42:24 <TrueLight> Sacro: it in fact is easier to do so 13:42:40 <Sacro> TrueLight: oh right, i just tend to run make 13:42:51 *** rain```` [i=rain@24-183-26-9.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has quit [] 13:42:52 <TrueLight> Sacro: for now that still works 13:45:42 <Sacro> hmm 13:46:18 <TrueLight> hmmmmmmm 13:46:44 *** rain```` [i=rain@24-183-26-9.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com] has joined #openttd 13:48:14 <Sacro> grr, my shoulder hurts, damn cricket 13:52:46 <TrueLight> pussy 13:54:01 <Sacro> eh :O? 13:54:20 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:25 <TrueLight> need I to stpell it? :p 13:54:40 <Sacro> ive not played for ages 13:54:45 <TrueLight> blablabla 13:54:47 <TrueLight> all excuses 13:54:51 <TrueLight> Be a man! 13:54:51 <TrueLight> :p 13:55:07 <Sacro> hehe 13:55:20 <Kjetil> whine whine my shorts are on fire 13:56:13 <Sacro> hehe 13:59:43 <guru3> how long has openttd been around? 14:00:25 <Kjetil> god made the earth using openttd's scenario editor 14:00:42 <TrueLight> guru3: 2003 I believe, check wiki 14:00:43 <guru3> then you guys really screwed up the scenario editor since then 14:02:06 <guru3> is there a web access for the svn repository? 14:02:36 <guru3> found it 14:02:36 <guru3> nvm 14:02:45 <TrueLight> just it doesn't go back all the way 14:02:52 <TrueLight> we lost a lot because a host went down 14:03:03 <TrueLight> and getting the repos ment ludde had to pay for it or something 14:03:05 <TrueLight> really idiotic 14:03:27 <guru3> so you're at like 6400 revisions then? 14:03:38 <guru3> in about 3 years? 14:03:40 <TrueLight> I believe the other had 1000 revisions or somethin 14:03:42 <TrueLight> can't remember 14:03:49 <guru3> truelight: Import of revision 975 of old (crashed) SVN 14:03:54 <TrueLight> 975 :p 14:04:01 <TrueLight> so you do the math :) 14:04:13 <guru3> 5400 + 1000 = 6400 14:04:25 <TrueLight> if you say so :) 14:04:29 <TrueLight> and ludde didn't start with SVN 14:04:38 <TrueLight> I believe version 0.3 or 0.2 somewhere was the first in SVN 14:04:41 <guru3> well my main point from this is 14:04:44 <TrueLight> orudge has 0.1 :p 14:04:52 * Sacro has R600 ish 14:04:53 <guru3> you guys go a lot faster than the other project i'm working on 14:05:03 <Kjetil> does 0.1 have inline asm ? :Å 14:05:10 <TrueLight> guru3: which is? :p 14:05:11 <Sacro> i think 0.1 is on SF 14:05:15 <TrueLight> Kjetil: tons 14:05:16 <guru3> TrueLight: armagetronad 14:05:23 <TrueLight> guru3: what kind of game 14:05:24 <TrueLight> ? 14:05:25 <Kjetil> TrueLight: eek 14:05:30 <guru3> since 2001, 5570 revisions 14:05:34 <TrueLight> Kjetil: this game _is_ reversed engineerd 14:05:41 <guru3> it's like... 2d action made 3d 14:05:44 <TrueLight> guru3: many revisions doens't mean more progress :) 14:05:47 <TrueLight> just smaller patches :p 14:05:57 <Kjetil> TrueLight: husj.. they might be watching :P 14:06:10 <TrueLight> Kjetil: that is all over the place, not really a secret 14:06:42 <guru3> let's see what CIA says about it 14:06:55 <Sacro> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=111717&release_id=226442 14:06:56 <TrueLight> CIA? Lol! 14:07:01 <TrueLight> not much, that is for sure 14:07:07 <Sacro> 0.1.4 14:07:10 <guru3> not really 14:07:19 <guru3> 3523 messages since the first one, 1.2 years ago, for an average of 2.99 hours between messages 14:07:22 <guru3> vs 14:07:26 <TrueLight> Latest openttd-0.1.4 [Notes] (2004-03-25 00:00) <- LATEST! LOL! 14:07:29 <guru3> 5666 messages since the first one, 2.15 years ago, for an average of 3.32 hours between messages 14:07:43 <TrueLight> guru3: who is who? 14:07:47 <guru3> guess :P 14:07:55 <Kjetil> the who 14:08:15 <Sacro> whoo, openttd 0.1.1 14:08:23 <TrueLight> Sacro: no source 14:08:26 <TrueLight> just binaries 14:08:32 <TrueLight> orudge has the SOURCE of such an early version :p 14:08:34 <Sacro> TrueLight: :O GPL VIOLATION 14:08:48 <Sacro> yeah...i think he sent me it and its on my desktop 14:08:48 <TrueLight> who said it was under GPL? 14:08:58 <guru3> that's what i was thinking 14:09:05 <Kjetil> I guess there is a lot of other violations :P 14:09:22 <Sacro> "luddemusic.dat" :S 14:09:23 <TrueLight> Kjetil: not really, just a big grey area 14:09:43 <Sacro> hehe, 1 exe, 1 dat. 1 lng, 1 grf 14:09:54 <Kjetil> I guess it's legal since it done outside the us 14:10:09 <TrueLight> wine can't start it, LOL! :) 14:10:14 <Sacro> i think i have r22 somewhere 14:10:21 <TrueLight> Kjetil: has little to do with it 14:10:22 <Sacro> ill have to have a look in a bit, hope i didnt format it 14:10:31 <Kjetil> TrueLight: different rules and such 14:10:37 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit ["On snow, everyone can follow your traces"] 14:10:41 <TrueLight> Kjetil: even so 14:10:48 <TrueLight> but okay, it all doesn't matter 14:10:52 <TrueLight> as long as nobody is sued 14:10:54 <Kjetil> hehe 14:11:04 * Kjetil doesn't think that will happen 14:14:33 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83B55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:15:44 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["God i hate work"] 14:20:02 *** Taketwo [n=adseag@adsl-84-226-182-66.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:20:46 *** Taketwo [n=adseag@adsl-84-226-182-66.adslplus.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 14:21:27 <TrueLight> btw, the binaries of many targets go back to 2004.. the nightlies :p 14:22:07 <TrueLight> revision 1147 :) 14:22:16 <TrueLight> 1 binary since then every day 14:22:45 <TrueLight> since 2005-11 all targets are saved 14:23:02 <TrueLight> nice archive :) 14:23:51 <Sacro> lets play 0.1.1 and post some bug reports 14:24:08 <Sacro> hehe, do some newgrf testing 14:24:35 <TrueLight> haha :p 14:25:18 <Sacro> or i could just play TTO for a while, its the best 14:25:49 <TrueLight> TTO? 14:25:54 <Sacro> yep 14:26:00 <Sacro> original TT 14:26:01 <TrueLight> when I put a question mark there 14:26:05 <TrueLight> it means that I don't get what you mean :p 14:26:05 <TrueLight> ah :p 14:26:08 <TrueLight> so just TT :) 14:26:18 <Sacro> errm...yes :) 14:26:19 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 14:26:19 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 14:26:34 <Sacro> bbs, need a shower 14:26:46 <TrueLight> yes, you do :) 14:27:57 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:27:59 *** Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #openttd 14:32:43 *** GoneWacko 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SDL_AUDIODRIVER to arts, esd, alsa, oss 16:56:39 <peter1138> get a better sound card? 16:56:44 <Sacro> its a laptop 16:56:47 <peter1138> heh 16:56:55 <Sacro> but its a 2.4GHz desktop CPU 16:57:08 <glx> exotic sound chip? 16:57:43 <Sacro> hang on... 16:58:33 <Sacro> ICH - SiS SI7012 16:58:33 <Sacro> SiS SI7012 with ALC200,200P at 0x1400, irq 5 16:58:53 <Kjetil> it works fine on linux with full sound here 16:59:06 <Sacro> does upstairs on my desktop with its audigy 16:59:08 <peter1138> SiS... *snigger* 16:59:16 <Sacro> peter1138: i know... :( 17:00:39 <Sacro> didnt help that pdftotext was doing something, not that i told it to 17:01:05 <Sacro> something seems to keep starting it 17:01:27 <Sacro> python...:S who woke that up 17:01:30 <peter1138> does it lag with just -m null? 17:01:50 <Sacro> yep 17:01:52 <peter1138> nice 17:02:21 <Sacro> the gm files lag it 17:02:33 <peter1138> not with -m null they won't 17:02:44 <peter1138> (and the player stopped) 17:02:59 <peter1138> -s sdl:hz=44100 heh 17:03:01 <peter1138> or hz=48000 17:03:44 <peter1138> and what about other sdl programs? heh 17:03:45 <Sacro> hmm, thats impressively stupid an idea 17:03:59 <Sacro> the sounds play super faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast 17:04:02 <Sacro> hehehehe 17:04:57 <Sacro> peter1138: im not sure what other sdl programs i have... 17:05:14 <peter1138> hehe 17:05:19 <peter1138> most games 17:05:39 <Sacro> i dont have many other games on here, i cant run 3d grahpics 17:07:36 <peter1138> plenty of 2d sdl games around 17:08:01 <Sacro> hmm, well recommend me some 17:09:29 <Sacro> arrgghh, DIE BEAGLED 17:09:39 <Sacro> ive uninstalled you, and ran killall, but you just keep coming back 17:09:54 <Sacro> your 1 step away from being malware 17:09:54 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 17:10:23 <kbrooks> Sacro: why is it software designed to perform a malicious action? 17:10:57 <Sacro> kbrooks: its scanning all my files 17:11:07 <Sacro> even though ive uninstalled it, and killed its process 3 times 17:11:14 <kbrooks> reboot? 17:11:29 <Sacro> its linux, i shouldnt have to 17:12:07 <peter1138> /etc/init.d/beagled stop 17:12:13 <peter1138> or whatever the suse equivalent is 17:12:19 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54947B9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:48 <Sacro> peter1138: i run Arch Linux, i dont have beagled in /etc/rc.d 17:12:59 <peter1138> oh 17:13:06 <peter1138> well, not if you've uninstalled it ;p 17:13:32 * peter1138 > home 17:13:35 <kbrooks> "oh". 17:13:42 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 17:14:11 <Sacro> it wasnt there before 17:14:19 <Sacro> right, how to get it to behave 17:14:47 <Sacro> time to go wiki reading 17:30:56 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:33:33 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:33:35 *** jonty_comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined 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in ukrs 18:18:02 *** hapo [i=pr@kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 18:21:58 *** Mucht|zZz is now known as Mucht 18:22:07 <Sacro> hylje: doesnt 18:24:43 <hylje> k 18:24:53 <hylje> so theres just maglev? 18:25:07 *** ubuntu2 [n=ubuntu2@p85.212.150.143.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:18 *** ubuntu2 is now known as mowl 18:30:13 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-54-107.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:31:01 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 18:32:08 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:32:09 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:32:14 <Kjetil> hi Bjarni 18:32:33 <Bjarni> hi Kjetil 18:32:44 <Bjarni> http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7965/bigfaintinggoatsareawesome7sr.gif 18:32:45 <Kjetil> Any plans for the summer ? 18:32:48 <Bjarni> 800 k warning 18:33:03 <Bjarni> <Kjetil> Any plans for the summer ? <-- yeah 18:33:14 <Bjarni> NOT to go to Norway :P 18:33:19 <Kjetil> hahah 18:33:41 <Kjetil> Yeah, I would go somewhere else to... It's to hot here 18:34:30 <Bjarni> actually my plans are rather limited by work 18:34:50 <Bjarni> also known as: I don't have a summer vacation this year 18:34:58 <Kjetil> oh crap.. 18:35:14 <Bjarni> it's not that bad 18:35:21 <Kjetil> ehm.. yeah it is 18:36:03 <Sacro> Bjarni: 800k what? 18:36:11 <Kjetil> Or traveling south in fall isn't that bad eighter.. No turists and still warm 18:36:54 * Sacro hates people who dont specify things 18:39:00 *** mowl is now known as evil_voice_from_ 18:39:14 *** evil_voice_from_ is now known as evil_voice 18:39:34 <Bjarni> Sacro: <Bjarni> http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7965/bigfaintinggoatsareawesome7sr.gif 18:39:44 <Sacro> Bjarni: i saw 18:39:49 <Sacro> but 800k what? 18:39:56 <Bjarni> well, it said 800k where I found it. I didn't actually verify that it is that big 18:40:02 <Bjarni> didn't bother 18:40:10 <Sacro> "beware 800000" is hardly a useful warning 18:41:10 <Sacro> !calc 524288/2 18:41:33 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@cpc4-hem12-0-0-cust246.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["/quit"] 18:44:54 <Bjarni> <Kjetil> Or traveling south in fall isn't that bad eighter.. No turists and still warm <-- but I don't want to go south... 18:49:16 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-247-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit ["Gone"] 18:55:03 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-217-34-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 18:58:00 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-217-34-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 18:58:45 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-247-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:03:57 <Kjetil> Bjarni: go east then 19:04:47 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer"] 19:05:51 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 19:06:05 <Sacro> hmm, if i go east, i end up in germany 19:07:18 <peter1138> you do? 19:07:36 <peter1138> east is rather southish from here 19:08:49 <TheMask96> hmm same for me... east is germany... 19:08:59 <peter1138> erm 19:09:00 <TheMask96> unless I got things mixed up:) 19:09:04 <peter1138> s/east/germany :) 19:09:20 *** evil_voice is now known as mowl 19:09:44 <TheMask96> peter1138: I thought your compas was broken ;) 19:18:13 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@cpc4-hem12-0-0-cust246.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:18:43 *** TrueLight is now known as TL|Away 19:22:07 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Probably doing something else"] 19:25:43 <Bjarni> <Kjetil> Bjarni: go east then <-- why should I travel? 19:25:50 <Bjarni> you want me to leave or something? 19:26:04 <Bjarni> I bet you want to get rid of me to do your evil plan 19:26:06 <peter1138> now that you mention it... 19:26:07 <Bjarni> whatever that might be 19:26:54 <Bjarni> east of me would be Sweden.... I deserve better. Even Kjetil have to agree with that 19:28:01 *** Hallo [n=me@c094.fem.tu-ilmenau.de] has joined #openttd 19:31:13 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:35:12 *** Osai^work is now known as Osai 19:46:53 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-247-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:51:39 *** Zbeynex [n=Sean@82-71-32-147.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 19:52:54 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-247-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:54:07 <CIA-3> peter1138 * r5453 /branches/utf8/ (48 files in 7 dirs): [utf8] - Sync with r5400:r5452 from trunk 19:54:08 <Bjarni> and the channel died.... 19:54:40 <Noldo> bazaaam! 19:54:50 <peter1138> now i have to recompile cos the language file was touched... *sigh* 19:54:56 <Bjarni> :P 19:55:17 * Bjarni puts up a sign saying "CPU power for rent" 19:55:27 <guru3> o? 19:55:28 <Noldo> peter1138: fake it with touch 19:55:33 <Bjarni> £0.0001 for each cycle used 19:56:03 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:56:54 <guru3> Bjarni: lol 19:57:19 <guru3> how do you keep track of the cycles? 19:57:22 *** ToonArmy [n=chris@88-105-188-161.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 19:57:52 <Bjarni> that's a trade secret 19:58:04 <peter1138> process accounting, obviously 19:59:06 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-120.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:59:09 *** paulstuffins [n=paulstuf@host-84-9-15-207.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 20:00:26 <Bjarni> WTF 20:00:37 <Bjarni> my computer just got hit by a giant bug 20:00:47 <Bjarni> it just flew right into the monitor o_O 20:00:47 <guru3> like a giant cockroach 20:00:49 <peter1138> what 20:00:52 <peter1138> you installed windows? 20:00:52 <guru3> game flying in the window? 20:01:44 <Bjarni> now the bug is gone 20:01:54 <Bjarni> it fell down and disappeared 20:04:01 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 20:04:55 <Bjarni> yeah 20:05:05 <Bjarni> I just solved that bug issue 20:05:38 <peter1138> Bjarni: did the max vehicles = 0 bug fix get backported? 20:06:23 <Bjarni> yeah 20:06:38 <Bjarni> I think I did that last weekend 20:06:55 <Bjarni> it's in the 0.4 branch 20:08:50 <Bjarni> check the log ;) 20:13:24 *** guru3 is now known as z-guru 20:13:48 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openTTD 20:14:07 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:14:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 20:14:49 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openTTD 20:15:01 <Stixsmaster> hello all 20:15:41 <Bjarni> you came to the wrong place 20:15:46 <Bjarni> all is not in this channel 20:16:07 *** Bjarni is now known as all 20:16:13 <all> hi Stixsmaster 20:16:14 *** all was kicked from #openttd by peter1138 [peter1138] 20:16:15 *** all [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:16:23 <peter1138> i kicked all from #openttd 20:16:25 <peter1138> oh dear 20:16:26 *** all is now known as Bjarni 20:16:32 <Bjarni> lol 20:16:41 <Bjarni> you know the best part? 20:16:45 <hylje> no 20:16:46 <Bjarni> [22:16] --- You are now known as all 20:16:46 <Bjarni> [22:16] -NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else 20:16:58 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176114031.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:16:59 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:21:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:21:10 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:23:57 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openTTD 20:24:03 <Stixsmaster> hey all 20:24:18 <Stixsmaster> can sumone help me with my graphix trouble that i posted in the forums? 20:24:40 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:24:49 <Bjarni> URL? 20:25:00 * Bjarni is too lazy to look it up 20:26:01 <glx> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=461908#461908 <-- this one I think 20:27:16 <black_Nightmare> brianetta..quick question related to graphics alone -- is there a screenshot of the different new airports? 20:27:31 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: Don't know 20:27:34 <black_Nightmare> I'm surprised at the 8+ choices there are, kinda wonder what each look like without finding a flat land to place all of them down 20:27:36 <black_Nightmare> oh hm ok ty 20:27:42 <glx> black_Nightmare: try new airport thread on dev forum 20:27:42 <black_Nightmare> who released them tho if you know? 20:27:58 <black_Nightmare> glx..tt-forum>openttd>development> right? 20:28:04 <glx> yes 20:28:06 <Brianetta> RichK67 20:28:20 <black_Nightmare> ahhh yes richk 20:28:24 <black_Nightmare> I recall some early screenshots 20:28:30 <black_Nightmare> that 2x2 helicopter pad too 20:28:42 <black_Nightmare> hm well let me see if I can find this thread again myself 20:29:49 <black_Nightmare> ah found it: http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24283 20:30:00 <black_Nightmare> LOL the first screenshot..thats damn long one 20:30:04 <Bjarni> Stixsmaster: well, personally I never tried 11 grf sets in one game. It could be the sprite limit. That's my best guess 20:30:49 <peter1138> there's a file limit too 20:30:59 <peter1138> though it's more then 11 20:31:01 <peter1138> *a 20:31:02 <peter1138> i think 20:31:13 <peter1138> 31-5 20:31:15 <peter1138> hmm 20:32:57 <black_Nightmare> well this is OT but I know ttdpatch seem to be sorta unlimited 20:33:11 <black_Nightmare> I'm like 20-30 grf's now (many are minor such as single building grf's tho) 20:34:05 <Bjarni> AFAIK the patch got a limit as well 20:34:22 <Bjarni> it just might be better at kicking out the "regular" sprites or something like that 20:35:00 <Bjarni> the max would be the max at any single time, so if you clear the table for all the sprites you aren't going to need, then you can add more 20:35:25 <Bjarni> I don't know how the patch works when doing stuff like that compared to OTTD 20:36:23 <black_Nightmare> wouldn't number of grf's and number of sprite be way seperated? 20:36:30 <Brianetta> OMG, the bickering on my server 20:36:40 <black_Nightmare> so eg you could have ten 200-sprite verus two 700-sprite grf's? 20:36:47 <Brianetta> It's comedy gold 20:37:00 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...I wish it would stop too...meh 20:38:01 <Bjarni> I think it's the total count of sprites and it will not care for the number of grf files as long as the file limit aren't reached either 20:38:08 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: You're one of them 20:38:15 <black_Nightmare> bjarni....right 20:42:55 <black_Nightmare> bjarni...in that case I always wondered what the sprite limit was in both openttd and ttdpatch 20:42:58 <black_Nightmare> figures 20:44:58 <peter1138> openttd 16393 20:45:02 <peter1138> ttdpatch, a lot more 20:45:18 *** dp__ [n=dp@p54B2F1C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:20 <Bjarni> why is it higher in the patch? 20:45:57 <peter1138> because.... it's been changed :P 20:46:19 <Bjarni> ok... 20:46:24 <Bjarni> new question 20:46:36 <Bjarni> peter1138: why haven't you changed it in OTTD as well? 20:47:23 <fusey> ooo new version 20:50:01 *** ToonArmy [n=chris@88-105-188-161.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:50:02 <Bjarni> peter1138: that answer is as good as everything else you can make up on the spot :P 20:51:27 <peter1138> to torment you 20:51:38 <black_Nightmare> LOL 20:51:48 *** Stixsmaster [n=Stixsmas@c-69-243-217-13.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit ["Bye for now!"] 20:52:57 <kbrooks> heh 20:55:50 *** dp-- [n=dp@p54B2F7A3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:55:50 *** dp__ is now known as dp-- 20:55:57 <Bjarni> I see 20:56:15 <Bjarni> then I take that you were the one to edit CmdSendAircraftToHangar() 20:56:28 <Bjarni> somebody edited it and now it's not working correctly 20:57:00 *** z-guru is now known as guru3 20:59:12 <Bjarni> well, somebody changed it at some time without changing the comments, which renders the comments bad 21:00:00 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:00:10 <Bjarni> I wrote the comments, so it looks like I wrote bad comments, but they were good at the time of writing..... don't mess with code without reading if you change anything, that affects the meaning of the comments.... 21:01:12 <fusey> the download section on the ottd.org site says 0.4.7.. is it just the html thats not updated? 21:01:23 <Bjarni> no 21:01:38 <Bjarni> the binaries aren't available (long story) 21:01:44 <fusey> oh ok 21:01:50 <Bjarni> you can get the sourcecode and compile yourself if you like 21:01:57 <fusey> 10-4 21:13:17 <ln-> i could look at the scrolling bug if my desk wasn't such a mess i can't fit ibook on it.. 21:14:25 <CIA-3> bjarni * r5454 /trunk/aircraft_cmd.c: 21:14:25 <CIA-3> -Fix: [ 1394231 ] Autorenew glitch on helicopters 21:14:25 <CIA-3> [ 1459348 ] Helicopters (possibly other aircraft) stopping in depot... 21:14:25 <CIA-3> by committing FS#233 Bugfix for autorenewed/autoreplaced helicopters staying in depot (Mart3p) 21:14:25 <CIA-3> now helicopters (this only applied to helicopters) no longer stops in hangars when replaced and they will not even go there for autorenew if the model is out of date 21:14:30 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-217-34-90.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit ["Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it"] 21:19:25 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 21:19:40 <Wolf01> 'night 21:19:43 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:19:44 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host235-235.pool874.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 21:21:13 *** pwr [n=pwr@82.78.120.186] has joined #openttd 21:21:30 <Bjarni> <ln-> i could look at the scrolling bug if my desk wasn't such a mess i can't fit ibook on it.. <-- ok, you failed to make up an excuse, that didn't make you look bad :P 21:22:36 <Bjarni> specially since iBooks aren't that big 21:22:51 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 21:22:52 <hylje> :< 21:22:54 <Bjarni> besides it's an unimplemented feature, not a bug 21:22:55 <black_Nightmare> weird power sag :-S 21:23:40 <Bjarni> nobody ever tried to get it to work, which is why it doesn't work ;) 21:24:50 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-20-120.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:24:57 <ln-> but wtf kind of events does it get from the touchpad that make the zoom go wild... 21:25:41 <Bjarni> oh, it reads it as the normal scroll wheel 21:25:49 <Bjarni> the normal scroolwheel zooms 21:26:12 <Bjarni> one "click" on a scrollwheel zooms equal to one click on the zoom button 21:29:04 *** fusee [i=fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:58 <ln-> ok, desk cleared for ibook 21:30:24 <Bjarni> you moved the porn magazines to the floor? 21:30:34 <Bjarni> you really found free space for them on the floor??? 21:30:37 <Bjarni> o_O 21:31:43 <black_Nightmare> ROFL 21:32:09 <ln-> i have figured out that keeping the floor clear is the most important thing in keeping one's apartment in habitable condition. 21:32:30 <Bjarni> now you are starting to really frighten me 21:32:41 <Bjarni> you might even be a woman 21:32:50 <hylje> :o 21:33:30 <Bjarni> ok, seriously, it's actually a good idea to keep the floor (at least more or less) clear 21:34:05 <ln-> it doesn't so much matter if the tables are full of stuff, if you can still walk. :) 21:34:36 <GrGene_> there are tidy men you know ... 21:35:25 <black_Nightmare> hm whats up with this server now....hmm..or is it me :-/ 21:35:52 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 21:36:15 <black_Nightmare> anyhow... 21:36:30 <black_Nightmare> any of you here ever seen any graphic replacement for the ship depots or not at all? 21:37:06 <black_Nightmare> (brianetta - just wondering, any idea if its the server or just my connection thats causing desync of a suddenly now?) 21:38:03 <black_Nightmare> oh wait brianetta..or are you still trying to move routers? 21:38:42 <ln-> where's the mac-specific event handling done? 21:38:44 <Brianetta> I wasn't moving routers 21:38:49 <Brianetta> My ISP upgraded one, last night 21:38:54 <black_Nightmare> hm may be my connection then 21:38:56 <Brianetta> desyncs are not caused by routers 21:39:08 <Bjarni> ln-: in video/cocoa_v.m 21:39:09 <Brianetta> desyncs are not caused by conneciton problems 21:39:21 <black_Nightmare> hm...guess I'll wait a few minutes and try again n see 21:39:28 <Brianetta> They are caused by a difference in random seed, between your client and the game on the server 21:39:30 <hylje> MiniIN desyncs like crazy 21:39:31 <Brianetta> That is all 21:39:48 <Brianetta> Nothing else *can* cause a desync 21:39:49 <Bjarni> hylje: MiniIN is defined as unstable ;) 21:39:53 <black_Nightmare> hylje..lol this is just the standard nightly build..on brianetta's server :p 21:40:01 <Brianetta> My nightly has newgrfs 21:40:03 <black_Nightmare> was fine for some time then suddenly desync when I tries 21:40:10 <Brianetta> You need the same ones, and the same version, in the same order 21:40:42 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> Nothing else *can* cause a desync <-- not true. If a player does something and the code is buggy so the computer fails to transmit the event, the client will desync because the server then got a different game 21:40:52 <black_Nightmare> brianetta...you mind looking at your log for a second? 21:40:59 <Brianetta> Bjarni: I thought it only checked by comparing the seed 21:41:04 <black_Nightmare> I was fine then now a minute ago bam keeps getting desync's :-S 21:41:16 <Brianetta> black_Nightmare: *** dragon has left the game (desync error) 21:41:18 <Brianetta> That's all I see 21:41:27 <black_Nightmare> hm but do you see how many times you saw it? 21:41:27 <hylje> we have a ukrs+MiniIN coop up, we get some nice desyncs 21:41:28 <black_Nightmare> go figure...weird 21:42:01 <ln-> Bjarni: video/ missing from Xcode project, btw. 21:43:52 *** fusey [i=fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:43:53 *** fusee is now known as fusey 21:45:21 <Bjarni> <ln-> Bjarni: video/ missing from Xcode project, btw. <-- I don't update the project file, because then I will force it to be Xcode 2 only, now it's Xcode 1, that updates to 2 if needed. I don't think I can make it go the other way 21:45:29 <Bjarni> and I don't use Xcode 1 anymore 21:45:54 <ln-> does someone else use Xcode 1 anymore? 21:46:08 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> Bjarni: I thought it only checked by comparing the seed <-- well it makes some sort of hash of the game, or at least key features like number of vehicles and so on 21:46:22 <Bjarni> ln-: yeah... I guess Vornicus 21:49:49 <black_Nightmare> hmm I think there -is- a bad code in openttd grf now then 21:49:59 <black_Nightmare> got desynced again for no reason :-/ (thats to brianetta) 21:51:10 *** mowl [n=ubuntu2@p85.212.150.143.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:52:26 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:54:51 <ln-> objective C... 21:56:52 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:57:34 <Bjarni> <ln-> objective C... <-- do you fear the challenge? 21:58:20 <ln-> nah, i figured out how to printf stuff, that should be enough. 21:58:33 <Bjarni> actually I think objective C is a cool coding language. If only I knew it better 21:58:59 <Bjarni> it got cool features like a garbage collector, but without the pesky slowdown like in Java 22:00:45 *** Angst [n=Angst@p54947B9E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["gn"] 22:01:59 *** Dred_furst [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:03:10 *** black_Nightmare [n=Husky_dr@modemcable088.176-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd ["bye"] 22:03:17 <ln-> what is the meaning of [ event deltaX ] syntax actually? 22:03:26 <ln-> something like event->deltaX, or? 22:04:15 <Brianetta> Tcl is the way forward 22:05:01 *** C-Funky [n=yotamst@bzq-84-109-42-175.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 22:06:05 <ln-> fixed. 22:06:45 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387D1BC.versanet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:07:12 <C-Funky> i need help with tortoise... 22:08:24 <C-Funky> anyone? 22:08:40 <ln-> give it food and water. 22:08:50 <C-Funky> tortoise svn... 22:09:33 <Bjarni> give it svn food and svn water. It might be a bit trickier to get than regular food and water, but you have to do so anyway 22:09:41 <hylje> yes 22:09:51 <hylje> tortoises arent easy to keep 22:10:03 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has joined #openttd 22:11:11 <ln-> Bjarni: i fixed the bug. 22:12:28 <hylje> gz 22:12:50 <C-Funky> no really, i made a new folder, downloaded the new revision, now how do i update my own game to it? 22:13:00 <C-Funky> using tortoise... 22:13:41 <Bjarni> I have no idea 22:13:43 <Bjarni> read the wiki 22:13:48 <C-Funky> ok 22:13:48 <Bjarni> ln-: good 22:15:30 <ln-> i plugged in an external mouse, too, to see that it still works with mice, too.. 22:15:37 <ln-> too many toos 22:16:03 <Bjarni> I too think so too 22:16:21 <hylje> aye too 22:17:19 *** Dred_furst` [i=nn@user-1052.wfd81a.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.0 :: www.XLhost.de )"] 22:19:16 *** paulsen [i=erik@host-81-191-45-251.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:19:20 <ln-> horizontal scrolling now does nothing. could be useful if it did something. 22:19:35 <hylje> liek desync the user immedetialy+ 22:19:38 <hylje> or hard crash 22:19:55 <ln-> erase all savegames without asking 22:23:06 <ln-> i've got a patch now, but what can we do with it? neither Tron or lord Darkvater are here to give their approval to this huge patch that modifies 3 lines. 22:27:36 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:28:34 <Brianetta> Bed time! 22:29:22 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["Tschüß"] 22:33:52 <ln-> should i send the 3-line patch to mr. Mallon and mr. Faragó by snailmail, printed as three copies? 22:34:23 <hylje> i think they've upgraded to IP over pigeons 22:38:48 <glx> ln-: is it OSX specific? 22:39:17 <ln-> very. 22:39:30 <glx> it's for Bjarni then 22:40:03 <ln-> i know, because Bjarni asked me to look at the bug 22:41:37 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has quit ["leaving"] 22:43:26 *** exe_ [i=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 22:46:00 <ln-> i could give a link to the patch 22:46:30 <ln-> channel, attention. prepare to receive a link. 22:46:37 <ln-> http://users.utu.fi/lanurm/ottd/ibook_touchpad_zoom_fix.diff 22:46:43 <ln-> end of transmission. 22:47:13 <hapo> :D 22:47:25 <hapo> roger. 23:01:53 *** GrGene_ [n=GrGene@ppp-82-135-80-168.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 23:02:45 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit ["http://iThought.dk/"] 23:05:47 <ln-> Bjarni: did you test it yet? 23:08:46 <ln-> ... to see that it still works with mouse. 23:14:19 <Bjarni> I will test it tomorrow 23:14:20 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:14:23 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:16:48 *** moebius_ [n=moebius@213.60.238.240] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:17:53 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:23:12 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 23:25:18 *** tokai|odw [n=tokai@p54B812D1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 23:26:58 <Vornicus> Bjarni: I don't use XCode at all, actually. 23:27:11 <glx> Vornicus: too late :) 23:27:26 <Vornicus> I do my programming in TextWrangler (or, for large projects, Eclipse), and run builds from Terminal. 23:31:10 *** Spoco [n=Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-65.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 23:33:37 *** ammler_ [n=ammler@4.157.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 23:48:05 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Client Quit] 23:51:11 *** Belugas_Gone [n=jfranc@ip-77.41.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit ["How about sleeping? 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