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Little cleaning of unneeded code, too 04:01:17 <CIA-5> Just that it now needs macros.h to be included in windows.h 04:01:17 <CIA-5> -Added some comments 04:01:17 <CIA-5> -Moved a few Widget-Disable/Hidden from WE_PAINT to WE_CREATE, 04:01:19 <CIA-5> as they do not get used elsewhere. 04:17:45 *** Hendikins [n=wolfox@pdpc/supporter/student/Hendikins] has joined #openttd 04:42:14 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3585D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 04:59:08 *** robobed [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:59:46 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:00:39 *** robobed is now known as roboman 05:07:53 *** mikk36|lap [n=mikk35@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:23:24 *** MYOB [n=vision@h1.vpn.gov.ie] has quit ["Vision[0.9.7-SF-010705]: i've been blurred!"] 05:24:25 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:24:44 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 05:28:49 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:30:44 *** sayno [n=sayno@c-24-9-79-69.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 05:41:30 *** Gonozal_VIII [i=Gono@N833P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:41:41 *** pubzzzzz is now known as publunch 05:53:29 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:59:50 *** Guest56 [i=Gono@N933P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:04:12 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:17:58 *** Tron_ [n=tron@p54A3F6C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:23:18 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 06:27:57 *** Tron [n=tron@p54A3FA1E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 06:27:58 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 06:37:21 *** publunch [n=publunch@87.112.75.48.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:37:50 <Rubidium> Tron: the shadows of disaster vehicles have been broken by r5794; previously when the shadow's center was outside of the map, that position was seen as a MP_VOID tile (in FindLandscapeHeight). Now it asserts when calling GetTileType on the tile at the given position, which is much more than MapSize(). 06:38:19 <Rubidium> So, do you think that http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/broken_disaster_shadows.diff is commitable? 06:39:07 <ln-> no dev will have time to read it through within the next 3 years. 06:39:24 *** publunch [n=publunch@87.112.75.48.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 07:02:24 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B77353.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:06:26 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 07:15:43 *** Real^Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:17:36 *** Real^Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:25:21 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:29:13 *** mikl_ [n=mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 07:40:06 *** netgert [i=Gert@217-159-179-66-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 07:42:08 *** Bjarni [n=Bjarni@0x50c79a2e.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:42:11 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:42:29 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 07:56:11 <Rubidium> ln-: I don't care; I have a fixed version of openttd and I do not get the bug reports and if I get them, I can say it is in trunk too, so it ain't my problem. 07:56:19 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:56:40 <Rubidium> I only asked Tron specifically because his commit broke the shadows of the disaster vehicles. 07:58:29 <Bjarni> http://www.blitzortung.org/index.php?mode=6&map=9&lang=e <-- you can download a google earth overlay on this page, that will show lightning strikes in the past hour 07:58:39 <Bjarni> so you will get some sort of live update on google earth 08:00:14 <peter1138> Bjarni: will read over it 08:00:19 <peter1138> it's not like he doesn't anything else 08:11:27 <peter1138> errr 08:11:28 <peter1138> -n't :P 08:14:37 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:17:04 *** guru3_ [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has joined #openttd 08:17:23 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:28:05 *** guru3 [n=guru3@2002:51e7:e65f:1:0:0:0:1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:28:08 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 08:38:24 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:39:07 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 08:42:01 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 08:42:04 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 08:42:05 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 08:42:10 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 08:42:10 <Darkvater> morning 08:42:47 *** jailbreaker_ [n=teodory@mail.jetfinanceintl.com] has quit ["gpf"] 08:42:54 *** jailbreaker_ [n=teodory@mail.jetfinanceintl.com] has joined #openttd 08:43:19 *** jailbreaker_ is now known as jailbreaker 08:44:25 <peter1138> mr dv 08:44:44 <Darkvater> peter1138: thank thee for z'he mail 08:44:55 <Darkvater> although you seem to have forgotten some words from it ;p 08:45:15 <Bjarni> hi Darkvater 08:47:16 <Rubidium> the shadows of disaster vehicles have been broken by r5794; previously when the shadow's center was outside of the map, that position was seen as a MP_VOID tile (in FindLandscapeHeight). Now it asserts when calling GetTileType on the tile at the given position, which is much more than MapSize(). 08:47:24 <Rubidium> I've created a patch to fix it: http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/broken_disaster_shadows.diff do you think that it is commitable? 08:53:11 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 08:54:02 <Rubidium> Darkvater: this is the bug that caused the crash that was posted by MacLir in the TGP test topic with that huge crash report 08:54:41 <Darkvater> Rubidium: does it change the behaviour to the outside? 08:55:47 <Rubidium> it shouldn't, as long as the outer edge of the world is a level 0 08:56:24 <Darkvater> and if it isn't? Would that work now, or is that broken as well? 08:57:09 <Darkvater> just curious 09:00:04 <Rubidium> as far as I'm aware, it should work properly when edges are not at level 0, but then you would get a jump near the southern corner as there is a drop from "whatever level" to 0, as you've got the MP_VOID tiles there 09:00:16 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=478729#478729 <-- this one is gold. I told this guy to check DEBUG in Makefile.config and then he copy paste configure and can't really find the right line :P 09:01:17 <Zavior> Why do fat people always die in action movies? 09:02:09 <Bjarni> why do the hero always get the blonde girl? 09:02:24 <Zavior> iirc steven seagal never did 09:02:45 <Bjarni> and why do the hero in western movies always wear a white hat while the villains wears black hats 09:02:53 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 09:03:01 <Bjarni> it's fiction, that's why ;) 09:03:36 <Bjarni> I'm wondering what to reply to that forum thing and then I noticed something about the poster 09:03:39 <Bjarni> Location: madcity wisconsin 09:03:47 <Bjarni> US citizen living in Mad City :D 09:07:59 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:14:53 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 09:19:36 *** Mucht|work [n=mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 09:19:59 <Darkvater> Rubidium: if it works, which I cannot test, I'll say it is acceptable and can be added 09:22:54 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 09:27:53 *** roboman [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:28:27 *** Maedhros [n=jc@gentoo/developer/Maedhros] has joined #openttd 09:31:04 <Kjetil> Bjarni: Nearby were I live there is a place called Madland 09:31:47 *** orudge [n=orudge@217.28.34.132] has joined #openttd 09:31:54 <orudge> Hello 09:32:43 <JohnUK89> orudge: ello 09:32:45 <Darkvater> orudge: ello 09:32:59 <Darkvater> orudge: got something for ya; please test if OS2 still compiles/works with HEAD 09:33:02 * orudge is on the train, having returned from a long and ardeous journey from Brazil 09:33:10 <orudge> Darkvater: OS/2 hasn't compiled since YAPF 09:33:14 <orudge> However, the GCC patch may help it 09:33:20 <orudge> (well, somebody ported it to GCC) 09:33:29 <orudge> so I'll look into it when I'm home 09:33:49 <peter1138> Darkvater: what words are missing? 09:37:31 <Darkvater> peter1138: I'd like to see it a little than this, mainly as I won't have a lot of 09:37:34 <Darkvater> time for the rest of this month, as I'm finally house moving! 09:37:50 <Darkvater> peter1138: I presume you wnated to say 'I'd like to see it a little *later* than...' 09:37:55 <Darkvater> but congrats on moving :D 09:37:58 <Darkvater> orudge: ok, great 09:41:23 <Darkvater> michi_cc: ping 09:42:15 <CIA-5> rubidium * r5841 /trunk/disaster_cmd.c: -Fix r5794: use the height of the edge of the map for shadows of disasters that are outside the map 09:45:06 <peter1138> oh 09:45:08 <peter1138> yes 09:45:09 <peter1138> :/ 09:45:17 <peter1138> so yeah 09:45:19 <peter1138> i'm house moving 09:45:21 <Darkvater> moving in August? 09:45:25 <peter1138> then i have to get broadband installed 09:45:26 <peter1138> 18th, yeah 09:45:30 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:45:36 <peter1138> mind you, my adsl's not working at the moment... 09:45:39 <Darkvater> sweet, one week :D 09:46:49 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 09:47:00 <SpComb> OS/2? How silly 09:47:52 <orudge> :( 09:52:26 <Bjarni> hi orudge 09:52:37 <Bjarni> long time no see 09:53:10 * Bjarni decides to interrogate SpComb 09:53:20 <SpComb> OS/2 is silly! 09:53:26 <Bjarni> I can easily make him talk 09:53:28 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 09:53:28 <Bjarni> !logs 09:53:30 <Bjarni> see 09:53:32 <SpComb> it's like windows, except it's not used 09:53:42 <Bjarni> no 09:53:43 <orudge> Bjarni: Been in Brazil, innit 09:53:47 <Bjarni> ahh 09:53:59 <Darkvater> sh how was brazil? 09:54:01 <peter1138> ah, you saw a brazillian people 09:54:15 <orudge> I did. 09:54:20 <Bjarni> <SpComb> it's like windows, except it's not used <-- no, at least windows got a lot of software available 09:54:34 <orudge> Darkvater: Warm 09:54:34 <orudge> Quite nice though 09:54:34 <orudge> Shall post the pics later 09:59:59 <Bjarni> now that's something to look forward to 10:00:05 <Bjarni> (hopefully) 10:02:43 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:08:47 *** Belugas [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:10:23 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:10:43 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:10:58 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:11:49 <JohnUK89> Stoopid GPRS...lol 10:12:15 * peter1138 yawns 10:12:41 <peter1138> argh, broken hub :( 10:12:45 <peter1138> usb hub, that is 10:13:04 <JohnUK89> Lol 10:17:54 <Bjarni> why lol? 10:18:31 <Bjarni> it's my experience that USB hubs are somewhat poor in quality 10:18:38 <JohnUK89> Because I say it far too often 10:18:49 <Bjarni> are you on something? 10:18:57 <JohnUK89> Nope 10:19:10 <Bjarni> that leaves one option 10:19:22 <Bjarni> you are gay in personality 10:19:24 * Bjarni hides 10:19:29 <JohnUK89> :o 10:19:35 <Bjarni> :P 10:19:37 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:19:45 <Bjarni> gay = happy 10:19:54 <Bjarni> I presume you know your own language 10:19:55 <JohnUK89> I know :) 10:20:09 <JohnUK89> I was wondering which meaning you went 10:20:13 <JohnUK89> meant* 10:20:21 <Bjarni> that was the point 10:20:49 <Bjarni> in case you missed the point, I better help you 10:20:53 <Bjarni> . <-- the point 10:20:58 <JohnUK89> Hehe 10:20:58 <Bjarni> now you can't miss it 10:21:21 <JohnUK89> Indeed I can't 10:22:56 <JohnUK89> If you weren't sure, I'm a very strange example of the human species 10:23:42 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B84465.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:24:50 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 10:30:20 *** orudge [n=orudge@217.28.34.132] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:35:33 *** Sionide [n=sphinx@collaredlory2.hornet.uea.ac.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:35:52 *** Trenskow [n=outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:38:41 *** ChrisM87 [n=ChrisM@p54AC5CF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:44:38 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 10:48:05 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:50:38 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:50:41 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:51 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:52:05 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:53:45 <Bjarni> <JohnUK89> If you weren't sure, I'm a very strange example of the human species <-- we know 10:53:56 *** Darkvater [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit ["Changing server"] 10:54:15 <JohnUK89> :-D 10:55:10 *** DarkSSH [n=tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:12 *** mode/#openttd [+o DarkSSH] by ChanServ 10:55:18 *** DarkSSH is now known as Darkvater 10:55:27 *** mode/#openttd [-o Darkvater] by Darkvater 10:56:22 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: are you any good at coding C? 10:56:40 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I can't code anything lol 10:56:55 <Bjarni> ... 10:57:09 <JohnUK89> ie I don't know any programming languages 10:57:24 <Bjarni> you better learn. I got a feeling that you can be good at it 10:58:22 <JohnUK89> May as well start learning :) 10:58:28 * JohnUK89 downloads MinGQ 10:58:30 <JohnUK89> GW* 10:58:32 <JohnUK89> LOL 10:58:41 <JohnUK89> I hate QWERTY 10:59:31 <hylje> gtfo my qwerty and go dvorak 11:00:01 <JohnUK89> hylje, I would if I could afford a Dvorak keyboard ;-) 11:00:01 <hylje> i know python to some extent, whats your policy about embedding python to do stuff 11:00:10 <hylje> get a Das Keyboard and be done with it 11:00:30 <JohnUK89> Lol they cost too much :P 11:00:35 <Maedhros> JohnUK89: just take your current keyboard apart and rearrange the keys :-P 11:00:58 <JohnUK89> Maefhros: I don't trust my skills enough lol 11:01:01 <JohnUK89> grrrr 11:01:05 <JohnUK89> too many typos 11:01:11 <hylje> its not hard, depends on your keyboard 11:01:26 <hylje> i can easily remove keys from my lappy and put them back without anyone noticing it 11:01:38 <hylje> but this stock HP keyboard otoh.. 11:01:41 <JohnUK89> hylje: some old thing, it's 13 years old, I've had it for 10 11:02:12 <JohnUK89> REALLY clicky 11:02:18 <hylje> clickiness wins 11:02:28 <JohnUK89> Yep! I love clicky keyboards 11:03:00 <JohnUK89> Especially ones that feel like Atari kyboards, which this one kinda does 11:03:07 <JohnUK89> (I grew up on an Atari) 11:03:18 <hylje> :D 11:04:24 <JohnUK89> aha brb me dinners ready :) 11:05:17 <CIA-5> truelight * r5842 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.in Makefile.lang.in Makefile.src.in configure): [MakefileRewrite] -Add: some nicer errors in case things can't be found 11:10:35 *** PAStheLoD [n=pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 11:23:55 <JohnUK89> Back :) 11:27:37 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: you here? 11:29:18 *** Zaviori [n=Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:30:52 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:32:28 *** Zavior_ [n=Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:37:00 * JohnUK89 doesn't like not gaving DSL, MinGW is gonna take about an hour to download :-\ 11:37:27 <JohnUK89> having* 11:38:11 <Eddi|zuHause> get skydsl? 11:39:22 <Bjarni> <JohnUK89> Bjarni: you here? <-- no 11:39:52 <Bjarni> I figure that I have to give the right answer at the time the question was asked ;) 11:40:38 *** Gyas [n=n_van_sc@cc1037470-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:41:28 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:41:49 <Gyas> hey all i have a question, what should i do excactly to get the right version for the sandbox server 11:41:52 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 11:43:03 <JohnUK89> Bah 11:43:25 <JohnUK89> 23 minutes for binutils alone :-\ 11:55:50 *** SpComb [i=terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 11:56:00 <Gyas> if i look at "http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php" i don't see any version like r5794, could i just download one of these? 11:56:17 <JohnUK89> Gyas, no, you need to have exactly the same version 11:56:33 <Gyas> any idea where to get it? 11:56:46 <JohnUK89> I'll have a look 11:56:56 <JohnUK89> What Operating System? 11:57:00 <Gyas> windows 11:57:35 <JohnUK89> http://nightly.openttd.org/win32/OTTD-win32-nightly-r5794.zip 11:57:42 <Gyas> great thank you 11:58:07 <JohnUK89> No problem :) 12:00:42 <JohnUK89> Gah the MinQW install has borked :( 12:00:46 <JohnUK89> GW!!! 12:00:48 <JohnUK89> DAMNIT! 12:03:38 *** Gyas [n=n_van_sc@cc1037470-a.groni1.gr.home.nl] has quit [] 12:05:13 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 12:09:19 *** roboman is now known as robobed 12:11:30 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:34 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:17:23 *** Born_Acorn [n=bornacor@ACCE85B2.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 12:21:45 *** smeding [n=roysmedi@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:21:47 *** smeding_ [n=roysmedi@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:22:19 *** smeding_ [n=roysmedi@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 12:24:05 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-226-235.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:30:46 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-226-235.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:31:49 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-206-172-44.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:34:43 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit ["-"] 12:38:01 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 12:40:48 *** robobed [n=Leo@c220-239-174-188.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:59:48 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:10:25 *** glx [i=glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:54 *** mikl_ [n=mikl@port283.ds1-hl.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 13:15:04 *** JohnUK89_ [n=JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:15:18 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 13:15:26 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 13:19:10 <JohnUK89> Ello again :) 13:20:59 *** JohnUK89 [n=JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit ["Client exiting"] 13:21:15 *** Hendy [n=wolfox@203-206-172-44.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit ["I wanna go... to the late night, double feature, picture show!"] 13:25:14 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 13:26:56 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:14 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Client Quit] 13:29:57 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:41:46 *** Guest56 [i=Gono@N871P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:46:35 *** Zavior_ is now known as Zavior 13:48:02 <michi_cc> Darkvater: pong 13:48:15 <Darkvater> michi_cc: tt-forums, openttd problems, vs2005 topic 13:48:16 <michi_cc> sorry about that. fix: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/vs2005_project_fix.patch 13:48:22 <michi_cc> seen already :) 13:48:29 <Darkvater> michi_cc: the masm, or nasm64 file thingie. wrong path? 13:48:47 <michi_cc> wrong kind of file reference 13:48:56 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 13:49:01 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8149A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:49:05 <michi_cc> it's a trivial fix 13:51:09 <CIA-5> Darkvater * r5843 /trunk/openttd_vs80.vcproj: Wrong path for masm64.rules in VS2005 project file (michi_cc) 13:51:09 <Darkvater> there 13:51:28 <Darkvater> michi_cc: I thought it was, but I can't edit it by hand if I don't have VS2005 installed 13:53:00 <michi_cc> I have that file where VS was searching, didn't think of checking before if it works without 13:55:19 <Darkvater> :) 13:55:40 <Darkvater> it probably comes installed with 64-bit support 14:00:14 *** Gonozal_VIII [i=Gono@N833P017.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:01:37 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 14:02:39 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 14:08:13 *** magus_ [n=magus@201.66.179.105] has joined #openttd 14:08:58 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B83F2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:09:48 *** orudge [n=orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:16:23 <CIA-5> truelight * r5844 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (Makefile.in Makefile.src.in configure): (log message trimmed) 14:16:23 <CIA-5> [MakefileRewrite] -Add: introduced a new way of dep-checking via the external programm 'makedepend' 14:16:23 <CIA-5> - Much much much faster then the old way (1 sec for OpenTTD totally, really, no joke) 14:16:23 <CIA-5> - Does all files at once (can't even do one file) 14:16:23 <CIA-5> - Added code that it only recreates the dep-file if the source-file-list is changed, or if 14:16:27 <CIA-5> a source-file or header-file is changed. 14:16:29 <CIA-5> - Warning: it might be less correct then the GCC-way. Running 'make depend' always forces 14:16:50 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c58-107-167-250.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:22:20 <CIA-5> truelight * r5845 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.src.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: independant of the OS, we use .o as object file, so force 'makedepend' to do the same 14:23:47 *** jonty-comp [i=Jonty@88-107-55-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:53 <CIA-5> truelight * r5846 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.src.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: in GCC-dep-mode, include the .d of that file if you compile a single .o 14:27:33 *** magus_x [n=magus@201.66.207.194] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:31:59 <CIA-5> truelight * r5847 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.src.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Cleanup: cleaned up the 'makedepend'-dep-check a bit 14:33:19 *** magus_ [n=magus@201.66.179.105] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:58:23 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:58:42 <hylje> when ukrs gets goods wagons for maglev? :p 14:58:52 <hylje> or any wagons 15:01:46 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:38 <Darkvater> maglev? 15:02:39 <Darkvater> lol 15:03:23 <JohnUK89> Maglev? What's that then? :P 15:04:15 <Guest56> dbset maglev is refittable to transport goods 15:05:25 <Guest56> with a maxspeed of 916 km/h^^ 15:06:19 *** Mucht|work is now known as Mucht 15:06:27 <hylje> so there is none 15:06:49 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 15:08:30 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|work 15:12:22 *** Tobin [n=Tobin@c58-107-167-250.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 15:21:00 <peter1138> ukrs has goods wagons, iirc? 15:21:06 <peter1138> but not randomfreight 15:21:24 <glx> IIRC, it has passenger, mail and goods 15:24:27 <Guest56> iirc? :S 15:24:46 <glx> if I remember correctly 15:24:52 <Guest56> aah 15:27:43 <Guest56> never heard that before, thank you 15:29:16 <hylje> yeh 15:29:19 <hylje> no wagons tho 15:29:31 <hylje> just self-contained carrying vehicles 15:35:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [n=johekr@p54B76153.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [n=johekr@p54B77353.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:46:26 *** tokai|noir [n=tokai@p54B8149A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:50:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai^away 15:52:19 *** Mucht|work [n=mucht@62.99.225.122] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:55:10 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openTTD 16:00:10 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-142-75.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 16:04:16 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 16:08:25 *** publunch [n=publunch@87.112.75.48.bbplus.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 16:13:17 * JohnUK89 yawns 16:19:36 <sayno> off topic question, is/was rammestien very popular in germany? 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16:50:18 <Wolf01> i thought it was corrected for all track combinations, but who cared about link two different stations since it wasn't possible? 16:51:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> Wolf01: when 2 trains go head on with each other on those stations, they still crash 16:51:22 <Wolf01> no, not that 16:51:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> other than that, it might be an interaction with the subidiaries patch 16:52:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> i.e. track sharing 16:52:17 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:52:18 *** jailbreaker [n=teodory@mail.jetfinanceintl.com] has quit ["gpf"] 16:52:30 <Wolf01> http://ttforums.owenrudge.net/files/depotbug.jpg 16:52:32 <Wolf01> this 16:52:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> this has to consider different owners for the same signal block 16:53:03 *** Dos [n=dossy@cwoerlee.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:24 <Wolf01> yes but the track sharing must be possible only with subsidiaries 16:53:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i've seen that picture 16:53:33 <Dos> how can i submit the Crash Report if the Submit button is greyed out? 16:53:33 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B84646.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:53:39 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/adjoin_bug.PNG 16:53:43 <Wolf01> and this is the bug 16:53:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> Dos: go to bugs.openttd.org 16:54:03 <Dos> \o/ 16:54:08 <Wolf01> i'm red, blue is not my subsidiary 16:54:14 <Dos> it was the 1st crash on r5818-TGP 16:54:15 <Dos> :P 16:54:33 *** |Jeroen| [n=jerre@dD5E03E95.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:55:43 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #OpenTTD 16:55:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> Wolf01: yes, i understand what you mean... i was just giving a) a reason why this would still be good, and b) where the error might be 16:56:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> have you tried without the red station? 16:56:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> have you tried in trunk? 16:56:39 <Wolf01> ? 16:56:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> just a red track 16:56:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> not a red station 16:56:55 <Wolf01> uhm, not 16:57:45 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-55-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 16:58:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> btw. miniin has an option to let ALL companies (not just subsidiaries) use your track 16:58:59 <Wolf01> maybe is that 16:59:25 <Wolf01> but as the screenshot shows 16:59:51 <Wolf01> the AI train is not able to enter the station if i put that track configuration 17:00:33 <Wolf01> due to the pathfinding i think 17:00:42 <Wolf01> which discards dead ends 17:00:48 *** RichK67_wrk [n=RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 17:01:01 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B84B2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:01:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> that's also interesting ;) 17:01:24 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k886.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 17:01:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> i remember some bugs like that, when a track has no junctions... 17:01:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> have you tried with different pathfinders? 17:02:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> NTP/NPF/YAPF 17:02:40 <Wolf01> i'll try in a couple of minutes 17:05:40 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 17:06:22 <Wolf01> oh, yes, the bug was due to the "allow track sharing for everyone" 17:08:17 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B84646.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:08:31 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B83FBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:08:56 *** sayno [n=sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 17:09:05 <Wolf01> but the AI trains aren't able to enter the station also if i disable that patch... the YAPF should be revisited 17:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have not seen KUDr around for a while... 17:13:07 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 17:13:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> does it behave correctly with other PF? 17:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> maybe it's the subsidiaries' modifications to YAPF (there must be some) 17:13:59 *** scia [n=scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:14:00 <Wolf01> yes, i didn't found strange behaviours 17:14:19 <Wolf01> apart the stupid old AI 17:14:30 *** mikl [n=mikl@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has quit ["In the end, all that matters is your relation with God..."] 17:14:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> btw. if track sharing is on, then the signal showed correct behaviour, not bug ;) 17:16:14 <Wolf01> ah, the trains pass the station without stop at it 17:16:27 <Wolf01> (with track sharing) 17:16:50 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have to allow stopping separately, i think 17:18:08 <Wolf01> i disabled also station sharing 17:19:26 *** Osai^away [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 17:19:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> Wolf01: check the YAPF code that determines platform lengths and stuff 17:20:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> and make sure it does not consider the "extended" platform through the other station 17:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> and don't you dare ask me where to find that ;) 17:20:45 *** abhdua [n=user@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has joined #openttd 17:21:12 <Wolf01> i must wait for frostregen, he coded the patch, i only made the first weird version 17:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> that has not really anything to do with the patch itself 17:22:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's just a situation that was probably not considered while coding the yapf feature of platform lengths 17:22:52 <Wolf01> is not only yaps related 17:22:56 <Wolf01> *yapf 17:23:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> YAPF calculates the length of the platform the train is trying to go to, and adds penalties for too long/too short platforms 17:23:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> so long trains take long platforms, and short trains take short platforms (if available 17:23:57 <Wolf01> yes but also deactivating yapf the trains don't stop at stations 17:24:15 <Wolf01> seem they can't find the end of track 17:24:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> that might be related... 17:24:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> although at a different location 17:25:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> in the train controller, there also must be code that determines the end of the platform, so the train stops there 17:26:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> if that also consideres this "extended" platform, and says: "don't stop here yet", and at the next tile it says: "you are not allowed to stop here" 17:26:50 *** sayno_ [n=sayno@ppp-168-253-15-97.den1.ip.ricochet.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:53 *** sayno [n=sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:31:34 *** DJ_Mirage [n=martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:33:11 *** Trippledence_ [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:34:32 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:53 <Dos> zzz 17:36:59 <Dos> another bug in r5818-TGP 17:37:21 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has joined #openttd 17:37:40 <Rubidium> and that is? 17:38:25 <Dos> u cant put land up on the corners where are signals 17:39:08 <glx> hmm not a TGP bug 17:40:45 <Rubidium> Dos: what do you mean with that? 17:41:04 <Dos> if you make the rails go like / 17:41:09 <Dos> and u put a signal on it 17:41:15 <Dos> u cant lower or higher the land near it 17:42:38 *** stewis [n=stewis@host-84-9-165-0.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #openttd 17:43:23 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:45:08 <Dos> am i right? 17:45:12 <Rubidium> I can't reproduce it; do you have a screenie/savegame of it? 17:46:00 <Dos> 1 sec ill make a savegame :/ 17:46:34 *** sayno_ is now known as sayno 17:46:43 <Dos> whats the cheat menu again? 17:47:09 <glx> ctrl-alt-c 17:48:37 <Dos> hmmmz now i can 17:48:40 <Dos> this is bs ^^ 17:49:33 *** Wolfensteijn [n=wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:20 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:56:43 *** Dos [n=dossy@cwoerlee.demon.nl] has quit ["bye :)"] 18:01:06 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:02:02 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:02:06 *** ZsoL [i=zsol@login09.caesar.elte.hu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:02:09 *** TinoM [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:11:16 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:11:32 <JohnUK89> Bah I can't learn stuff by reading :S 18:14:00 <JohnUK89> Reading sucks :P 18:17:31 *** bruce89 [n=bruce@85-210-95-7.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 18:33:16 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: it's impossible to learn coding just by reading 18:33:27 <Bjarni> it's a learning by doing thing 18:33:37 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:33:57 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I know, but I like to to a little background reading first 18:34:14 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B82FFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:34:15 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:34:47 <Bjarni> JohnUK89: try this one http://gamma.magnet.fsu.edu/tutor/basics/helloc/index.html 18:34:55 <Bjarni> it will get you started 18:35:06 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: okies, cheers :) 18:35:44 <Bjarni> I didn't bother to read all that stuff, but hello world is a good place to start and it looks decent 18:35:54 <Bjarni> and was one of the first to show up on google ;) 18:36:06 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: lol 18:36:40 *** Forexs [i=Forexs@x1-6-00-0f-b5-14-63-5f.k886.webspeed.dk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:37:28 <Bjarni> the idea is to see how little is actually needed to start having an app running and then you got something, that can execute, you can add stuff to it when you read about it 18:37:37 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B83FBE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:37:49 <Bjarni> well, at least that's how I see it 18:39:47 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: Okies, I'd best get started then :P 18:40:44 <Sacro> evening all 18:40:56 <JohnUK89> Sacro: evening 18:42:07 <ln-> orudge: what compiler were you using on OS/2? 18:42:54 <Darkvater> orudge was using watcom 18:42:57 <Darkvater> *shudder8 18:43:00 <Darkvater> *shudder* 18:43:00 <ln-> ok 18:43:10 <Darkvater> but fortunately it doesn't work anymore ;) 18:43:29 * ln- installed OpenWatcom just a moment ago.. 18:44:04 <ln-> btw, IBM VisualAge C++ 4 for OS/2 is something very bizarre... it's a compiler that cannot be used for creating object files from individual source files. 18:44:24 <ln-> therefore it basically cannot be used with makefiles. 18:45:31 <Bjarni> lol 18:45:51 <Bjarni> then what? 18:46:07 <Bjarni> you type gcc -o openttd $(OBJS) 18:46:16 <Bjarni> or what? 18:46:35 <Darkvater> you need to get a stapler to put them together ;p 18:47:16 <Bjarni> sounds like a lame compiler 18:47:20 <Bjarni> and a waste of papir 18:47:49 <Bjarni> if you need to print all source files each time and scan them into a single file each time you compile 18:48:10 <ln-> VAC++ requires a sort of config file that describes the exe file, so that the compiler knows all the time what will be in the exe. and this is because of the support for incremental compiling. 18:52:31 <Sacro> cant you just cat the whole lot and shove that into gcc? 18:53:06 <orudge> [19:43:07] <Darkvater> but fortunately it doesn't work anymore ;) <-- unfortuantely so 18:53:11 <orudge> although it does work with 0.4.x 18:53:15 <orudge> but 0.5 will be compiled with gcc 18:53:43 <ln-> Sacro: VA C++ isn't gcc. 18:53:54 <Darkvater> orudge: that is the fortunate part. Every time I look at the watcom project file 18:54:01 <Darkvater> I get the urge to kill someone 18:54:05 <orudge> and you mention it ;) 18:54:22 <orudge> Metrowerks whatsitcompiler for classic Mac OS is quite a fun compiler, too 18:54:30 <Darkvater> plus that it's totally braindead (eg the maprewrite) 18:54:36 <orudge> paths have to be specified with : notation, it doesn't support half of what a modern C99 compiler does, etc 18:54:50 <orudge> so I soon gave up on Classic Mac suppory 19:00:41 <Sacro> hey orudge! 19:00:58 <orudge> Hello 19:01:05 <Sacro> nice to see you back on IRC 19:01:59 * orudge was on #tycoon and #thesinner now and then while in Brazil 19:02:02 <orudge> but not here, I'm afraid 19:02:03 <orudge> :p 19:02:37 <Sacro> does Brazil not get freenode? 19:03:39 <Noldo> you make it sound like it's a tv channel 19:04:11 <Sacro> Noldo: it feels like it at times 19:06:28 <orudge> Sacro: It does, but that would involve three web-based applets of sorts 19:06:31 <orudge> too much effort :p 19:10:32 *** Belugas_Gone [n=Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:13:14 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 19:14:42 *** Samie [n=Samie@host86-135-129-43.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:14:44 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:15:06 <JohnUK89> Sacro: wb @_ 19:15:08 <JohnUK89> :)* 19:15:12 <Samie> hi 19:15:24 <JohnUK89> Samie: ello 19:15:28 <Sacro> JohnUK89: ta 19:15:32 <Sacro> my laptop is officially borked 19:15:37 <Sacro> Samie: hi there 19:15:42 * Brianetta reborks Sacro's portabox 19:15:49 <Sacro> Brianetta: you leave it alone 19:15:52 <JohnUK89> LOL 19:15:52 <Brianetta> (: 19:15:55 * valhallasw deborks Sacro's lappie 19:16:08 <Brianetta> It's down to borklevel 1 since valhallasw (: 19:16:13 <Sacro> cant wait for my open uni grant... 19:16:16 * valhallasw dedeborks Sacro's lappie 19:16:29 <Brianetta> borklevel 2? 19:16:32 <valhallasw> now Brianetta can bork it to bork level 0 \o/ 19:16:33 <valhallasw> no, -1 19:16:37 <Brianetta> oh 19:16:45 <Brianetta> it's additive, not multiplicative 19:16:45 * JohnUK89 grabs Sacro's lappy and throws it out the window 19:16:47 <Sacro> Wolf01: PING :| 19:16:57 * Brianetta catches Sacro's laptop 19:17:02 <Brianetta> and spreads butter all over it 19:17:09 * valhallasw fries an egg on it 19:17:11 <Brianetta> Here, Sacro, hold this 19:17:12 <Sacro> peanut butter? 19:17:21 <valhallasw> calve peanut butter 19:17:22 * Sacro drops the slippery laptop :( 19:17:28 <JohnUK89> Sacro: whatever turns you on, I suppose 19:17:29 * valhallasw catches it 19:17:34 * valhallasw runs away 19:17:37 <valhallasw> catch me if you can >:) 19:17:46 <Sacro> JohnUK89: ill get her to give me a lift to yours and you can meet her :) 19:17:53 * JohnUK89 trips valhallasw up 19:18:01 * valhallasw flied 19:18:04 <valhallasw> flies* 19:18:15 <JohnUK89> Sacro: lol bit too soon for that ;-) 19:18:32 <Sacro> thats true, i aint asked her out yet 19:18:48 <JohnUK89> Sacro: lol 19:19:41 <JohnUK89> brb 19:20:54 <Sacro> OH WOW http://www.isoma.net/games/goggles.html 19:21:22 <Wolf01> Sacro, pong 19:22:19 <Sacro> Wolf01: have you spoken to RichK? 19:22:49 <Sacro> Rexxie: your land buying patch? 19:23:02 <Sacro> no, i wanted re: you stupid client 19:23:35 * JohnUK89 is back 19:24:09 <Wolf01> Sacro, maybe, maybe not 19:24:25 <Sacro> it removes a check on one of the lines in the diff, which i discovered can cause a crash 19:24:27 *** BJH_ [n=chatzill@e176113194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:27:10 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 19:32:00 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B82FFA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:32:03 *** Samie [n=Samie@host86-135-129-43.range86-135.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:35:03 <CIA-5> truelight * r5848 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (5 files): 19:35:03 <CIA-5> [MakefileRewrite] -Add: copy language files to bin_dir 19:35:03 <CIA-5> -Add: added source.list, where all source-files that needs to be compiled 19:35:03 <CIA-5> are listed. This list supports #if UNIX and stuff to make a selection. 19:35:03 <CIA-5> -Add: copy openttd executable to bin/ 19:35:04 <CIA-5> -Add: added 'make run' that starts openttd 19:35:06 <CIA-5> -Fix: some random fixes. Now you can compile under *nix system, but without SDL ;) (so totally useless) 19:35:29 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:35:55 <Sacro> http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_expendability.png ROFL 19:36:33 <hylje> yeh 19:36:41 <hylje> star wreck jokes on that all the time 19:37:00 <Sacro> hylje: i downloaded that ages ago, still aint watched it 19:37:11 <hylje> hehe 19:37:20 <hylje> they ran them all in big screen at asm06 19:38:02 <CIA-5> truelight * r5849 /branches/makefile_rewrite/Makefile.src.in: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: remove bin/openttd on clean too 19:38:02 <Bjarni> <Sacro> OH WOW http://www.isoma.net/games/goggles.html <-- LOL 19:38:16 <Bjarni> that's awesome 19:38:16 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes, i thought it was brilliant 19:38:18 *** abhdua [n=user@ganymed.inf.tu-dresden.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:38:33 <Bjarni> specially if you could pick a starting location besides the default ones 19:39:02 <Sacro> yeah, could divebomb my hosue 19:39:23 <Bjarni> so you got the same idea as me? 19:39:26 <Bjarni> that's odd 19:39:40 <Bjarni> I wonder how many in here would divebomb your house 19:40:08 <Sacro> im so glad im not in a 19 story flat still 19:40:11 *** sw4y [n=sw4y@snat2.arachne.czfree.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:40:13 <Bjarni> lol, now I moved faster than the transfers could handle 19:40:20 <Bjarni> I'm flying in white lands :D 19:40:31 <Sacro> hehe 19:40:34 *** BJH [n=chatzill@e176106224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:40:51 <Sacro> i used to have an Amiga racing game, and if you strayed off the track, you could cruise across your ram 19:41:43 <Born_Acorn> which revision was Tron's steep slope building addition made? 19:42:05 <Sacro> Born_Acorn: it wasnt long ago 19:42:07 <Born_Acorn> I've looked through my SVN digests, but I think I've deleted the one with it in 19:42:22 <Sacro> check the timeline 19:42:27 <Born_Acorn> linkage? 19:42:46 <Sacro> errm 19:42:51 <Sacro> http://svn.openttd.org i think 19:42:55 *** Zr40 [n=Zirconiu@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:43:49 <Born_Acorn> 5833 yay 19:45:12 * Born_Acorn has been doing lots and lots of wiki work again 19:45:21 <Bjarni> http://www.bash.org/?144171 <-- LOL 19:45:28 <Sacro> i cant get the hang of wikicode 19:45:31 <Bjarni> that never happened where I go 19:45:45 <Bjarni> only the blue screen shows up once in a while 19:47:06 <Sacro> hehe, at college we where told it was impossible for students to get anything on the dispaly 19:47:23 <Sacro> the technician went out, came back and found a 10ft wide game of mario kart on the N64 19:54:18 <Bjarni> we once talked about going into an auditorium at uni when there was no lecture and hook up a computer to the projector 19:54:48 <Bjarni> would be cool for carmageddon, specially if we managed to make a LAN out of the 3 auditoriums in a row :D 19:54:53 <Bjarni> we never did that though 19:55:11 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:55:43 <Bjarni> imagine coming into an auditorium to get a lecture and all you find is some guy playing carmageddon on a really big screen XD 19:56:13 *** tokai|badnetwork is now known as tokai 19:58:11 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:00:02 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:00:47 *** netgert [i=Gert@217-159-179-66-dsl.prn.estpak.ee] has quit [] 20:01:03 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:02:25 *** lordpaav1 is now known as lordpaavo 20:05:38 *** tokai [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:06:08 *** Osai [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:27 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:07:58 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:14:11 *** Gwy[exOdKT] [n=theo@dslb-084-060-201-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:14:21 *** Gwy[exOdKT] is now known as McWayne 20:18:48 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 20:19:04 *** Belugas_Gone [n=jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 20:24:25 *** jonty-comp [n=Jonty@88-107-55-110.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit ["Au reviour!"] 20:29:27 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:30:11 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 20:33:47 *** JohnUK89_ [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 20:34:03 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:34:12 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 20:34:44 * JohnUK89 kicks phone 20:34:55 *** bruce89 [n=bruce@85-210-95-7.dsl.pipex.com] has left #openttd [] 20:38:19 <hylje> :< 20:42:43 *** stewis [n=stewis@host-84-9-165-0.bulldogdsl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:50:06 *** Gnarfoz [i=smallbra@p5482EF2B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:56:54 <Gnarfoz> hi :) 20:57:14 <Brianetta> (: ho 20:57:39 <Gnarfoz> are there any known problems regarding dedicated servers (linux) with 5818-TGP? I can't seem to get mine to run 20:58:22 <glx> Gnarfoz: known and fixed 20:58:44 <Gnarfoz> so... I'll have to svn & compile? :) 20:58:54 <glx> yes 20:59:13 <Gnarfoz> alright :> 21:00:15 <Gnarfoz> but, will 5818-TGP clients (windows version, precompiled from opentdd.com/whatever, the one linked in the news post ;)) still be able to connect to the result of my compilation? 21:12:55 *** mikk36 [i=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:13:15 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:14:05 *** Triffid_Hunter [n=Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 21:15:07 *** JohnUK89_ [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:15:34 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:15:39 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 21:16:46 * JohnUK89 kicks phone 21:16:56 *** mikk36 [n=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 21:17:08 <Rubidium> Gnarfoz: with some small modification you should be able to 21:19:11 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B827FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 21:20:14 <Rubidium> "make RELEASE:=r5818-TGP" or something like that 21:20:22 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B81A3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:21:21 *** Belugas_Gone [n=jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:22:02 *** Jack [n=JackONei@87.113.82.227.bbplus.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:23 <Jack> Hey folks... just installed openttd on linux... which files are meant to go in gm dir? 21:22:38 <Tron> the gm files 21:22:44 <Jack> i have my dos ttdlx cd to hand, i've copied the data files 21:22:49 <Jack> Tron, lol... yeah which ones? 21:23:02 <Jack> Don't tell me I have to install the DOS ttdlx to get to the files? 21:23:04 <Kjetil> dos ttdlx doesn't work 21:23:08 <Tron> the dos version doesn't have any, so this question is pretty moot 21:23:23 *** JohnUK89_ [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:23:30 <Jack> Aha, right... i'll get me windows ttdlx disc then 21:23:43 <Tron> it's just the music 21:24:04 <Jack> so the data files I've already copied are ok then? 21:24:07 <Tron> if you can live without that the dos version works rather fine (modulo some minor graphical glitches) 21:24:11 <Jack> the game seems to run fine - just no music 21:24:22 <Born_Acorn> I thought dosdummy.grf fixes those files? 21:24:28 <Tron> of course no music, the .gm files are just midi files 21:24:38 <Born_Acorn> *graphical glitches 21:24:42 <Tron> Born_Acorn: dosdummy adds 6 missing sprites 21:24:49 <Tron> it does nothing about the different palettes 21:24:52 <Born_Acorn> ah. 21:25:35 *** Ihmemies [i=ihmemies@a88-113-31-191.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit ["Signed off"] 21:25:35 <Gnarfoz> Rubidium: thanks, I'll try that 21:25:38 <Born_Acorn> A DOS palleted openttd.grf could be made and distributed. A "replace the normal with it if you have the DOS version" kind of thing. 21:27:14 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Operation timed out] 21:28:08 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:28:11 <Brianetta> Born_Acorn: SupCom Tycoon? 21:28:15 *** exe_ [n=dfsfd@pub82.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 21:28:31 <hylje> :D 21:28:33 <JohnUK89_> Sacro: wb lol connection problems? 21:28:34 <Born_Acorn> Perhaps! 21:28:41 <hylje> i want 21:29:25 *** JohnUK89 [n=admin@149.254.200.215] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29:36 <JohnUK89_> There goes mine :P 21:29:47 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 21:35:59 <Jack> Are you sure you wish to abandon this game and return to Unix? 21:36:03 <Jack> <classic> 21:36:20 *** Jack is now known as JackONeill 21:37:10 <JackONeill> Any chance OpenTTD has a nice PNG or XPM or some other kind of image for me to make a nice icon for it?> 21:37:31 <Born_Acorn> hmm. There's a media folder somewhere. Is it the source? 21:37:31 <MiHaMiX> JackONeill: yes, see the logo of the wiki.openttd.org 21:37:47 <Darkvater> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/media 21:38:02 <Born_Acorn> Where Darkvater linked to. 21:38:17 <Gnarfoz> hm 21:38:24 <JackONeill> fun! thanx Darkvater 21:38:30 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AFK 21:38:33 <Darkvater> np 21:38:41 <JackONeill> any chance of a better linux installer in future that does all this? 21:38:50 <Darkvater> don't look at me 21:38:58 <JackONeill> not meaning to be picky -- of course :P 21:39:04 <Gnarfoz> Rubidium: it works thus far, and I can see the server, too, no mismatch - but I'm stuck at 2/6 authorising after entering the server pw :\ 21:39:19 <JohnUK89> JackONeill, if you fancy writing it, sure ;-) 21:39:39 <Rubidium> the server is still generating the map, I presume (hope) 21:39:43 *** ThePizzaKing [n=thepizza@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:39:44 <JackONeill> I'm not there just yet with linux : 21:39:45 <glx> Gnarfoz: map size? 21:40:00 <Gnarfoz> uhm, checking 21:40:01 <JackONeill> I'm still waiting to be confortable enough to stick around long enough to be productive with it 21:40:17 <Gnarfoz> map_x & map_y, glx? 21:40:23 <glx> yes 21:40:27 <Gnarfoz> 10x10 21:40:29 <Gnarfoz> seems small 21:40:31 <Gnarfoz> :> 21:40:35 <glx> it's big 21:40:38 <Rubidium> is 1024x1024 21:40:40 <Gnarfoz> oh 21:40:42 <Gnarfoz> k 21:41:35 <mikk36> 10x10 means 2^10*2^10 21:41:41 <JackONeill> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/media/openttd.256.png?format=raw 21:41:47 <JackONeill> A damn fine logo if you ask me 21:42:08 *** Gonozal_VIII [i=Gono@N767P024.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:43:31 <Born_Acorn> It is. 21:43:44 <Born_Acorn> Some people want to change it! D: 21:43:45 <JohnUK89> Best logo ever, that :-D 21:44:17 <Gnarfoz> hm, even -d9 does not say anything about passwords 21:44:19 * orudge changes Born_Acorn 21:44:22 <JackONeill> It's orange! You can't touch orange 21:44:25 <Born_Acorn> :o 21:44:34 <Gnarfoz> I'll try without a password :> 21:44:58 <JackONeill> Can we have a version with a £ or (oh for fucks sake how to you get euro symbol on unix) as well? 21:45:16 <Darkvater> no 21:45:19 <JackONeill> :( 21:45:26 <Darkvater> look up the forums 21:45:27 <Gnarfoz> hm, works fine without the pw 21:45:33 *** mikk36 [n=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:45:44 <Darkvater> we've decided a long time ago that the $ is used as an international symbol of money 21:45:45 <hylje> we need to get an Aqua-compliant logo too? 21:46:04 <Darkvater> however much I hate the dollar and love the euro it just doesn't look right 21:47:01 <Darkvater> and that was the consensus 21:47:49 <Born_Acorn> Heck, Chris Sawyer even chose the $, and the game was designed entirely in the UK by UK peeps. 21:48:09 <Born_Acorn> So I'd say the $ was an international symbol of money. 21:48:22 <Darkvater> still is 21:48:27 <glx> and it looks fine in a logo 21:48:32 <Darkvater> we'll reconisder when the petrodollar dies ;p 21:49:16 <Brianetta> It's an international symbol of a variable value 21:49:18 <orudge> In Brazil, they use R$ as their currency (real) 21:49:27 <orudge> Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, all use $ 21:49:36 <Born_Acorn> A lot of countries have a dollar! 21:49:39 <orudge> and cartoons always have bags full of "$$$" 21:49:40 <hylje> canadian tire "money" ! 21:50:03 <hylje> you can pay your eBay stuff in that 21:50:14 *** Guest56 [i=Gono@N871P018.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:50:38 <Born_Acorn> Wikipedia; "The United States dollar is the world's most widely circulated currency." <-- I bet that's being caught up by the Euro 21:50:56 <Born_Acorn> Ah. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar#National_currencies_called_.22dollar.22 <-- They all use "dollars" 21:51:04 <hylje> yeah since the US economy is currently fading and the euro is stable 21:51:12 <Darkvater> not until the oil is being traded in dollars 21:51:19 <Darkvater> s/until/as long as/ 21:53:20 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-213-249-245-100.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Operation timed out] 21:54:12 <orudge> "Coins known as dollars were also in use in Scotland during the 17th century, and there is a claim that the use of the English word, and perhaps even the use of the coin, began at the University of St Andrews. " 21:54:22 <orudge> Indeed, some say that the dollar sign was invented here 21:54:32 <orudge> I know the very building it was meant to have been invented at! 21:56:05 <Darkvater> the loo ;p 22:00:02 *** Wolf01|AFK is now known as Wolf01 22:03:12 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 22:08:03 <Wolf01> 'night 22:08:09 *** Wolf01 [n=wolf01@host138-239.pool878.interbusiness.it] has quit ["e ricordate, per la legge di avogadro non esiste cazzo quadro"] 22:12:16 *** TinoM| [n=Tino@i5387E70B.versanet.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 22:12:57 *** Jenkz [n=nobody@80-192-44-21.cable.ubr05.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:27:04 *** Osai is now known as Osai^sun 22:29:24 *** Zahl22 [n=SENFGURK@dslb-082-083-196-164.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["YOU! It was you wasn't it!?"] 22:30:50 *** Sacro_ [n=ben@adsl-83-100-141-204.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:31:06 *** Sacro_ [n=ben@adsl-83-100-141-204.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:32:02 *** Sacro_ [n=ben@adsl-83-100-141-204.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:32:16 <JohnUK89> Sacro: connection problems? 22:33:00 <Sacro_> JohnUK89: my isp is a pile of steaming hairy pants 22:33:14 <Brianetta> and so is your laptop, IIRC 22:33:15 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I'll take that as a yes then ;-) 22:33:38 <JohnUK89> Brianetta, nope, that's a pile of smoking eggs 22:33:47 <Sacro_> yes, damn this city and its 1 isp 22:33:50 <Bjarni> you know, it's bad when you describe hardware as steaming 22:34:12 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B8139F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:34:13 <Brianetta> Helen went to bed... 22:34:14 <Sacro_> Bjarni: the ISP has been known to go offline due to a technician leaning on the off switch 22:34:18 <hylje> s/steaming/slashdotted/ 22:34:20 <Brianetta> Well, she has college in th eam 22:34:21 <Brianetta> the am 22:34:26 <Brianetta> I just have a LUG meeting 22:34:33 <Bjarni> Sacro_: LOL 22:35:00 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 22:35:19 <Sacro> i dont know when our next LUG meeting is, doubt im gonna go though 22:35:39 * JohnUK89 has never been to a LUG meeting lol 22:35:43 <JohnUK89> Wanna go to one though :) 22:35:49 <Bjarni> that reminds me of a type of EMU we got here. Some brilliant person decided to add extra buttons to the horn on the walls. I have seen one person leaning against those buttons twice in 5 minutes :P 22:35:59 <Sacro> JohnUK89: you should come over for the Hull one, Beverley one was a bit crap 22:36:27 <JohnUK89> Sacro: Hull's a bit of a stretch for me, really, incredibly isolated 22:36:28 <Sacro> Bjarni: ive been on some trains, and the emergancy stop button is above the toilet seat, and the flush is behind it >< 22:36:43 <Sacro> JohnUK89: Hull should be isolated... preferably by a lot of water 22:36:53 <JohnUK89> Sacro: LOL 22:37:08 <JohnUK89> Sacro: my mam comes from Hull :P 22:37:13 <Sacro> every time a women went to the toilet, she'd just haphazerdley push the button, and stop goes the train 22:37:20 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:37:21 <Bjarni> what's wrong with Hull? 22:37:21 <Sacro> JohnUK89: so are my parents 22:37:28 <Sacro> Bjarni: dont...just dont... 22:37:35 *** tokai|badnetwork [n=tokai@p54B81A3F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:37:38 <Sacro> Bjarni: google im feeling lucky for "fuckwit" 22:37:44 <Sacro> he's from hulll 22:37:52 <JohnUK89> Sacro: doesn't make my opinion of the place any better though...it's a turdhole :P 22:37:58 *** Trippledence [n=Trippled@cust183-dsl52.idnet.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:00 <Bjarni> I see that Sacro is not a fan of Hull City :P 22:38:09 <Sacro> its number one for teenage pregnancies 22:38:14 <Bjarni> maybe you bet money on them to lose and they finally won :P 22:38:24 <Sacro> has the 3rd worst off postcode in the country 22:38:30 <JohnUK89> Sacro: funny that, me mam had me when she was in mid-30's 22:38:42 <Sacro> JohnUK89: i know grandparents that old 22:38:57 <JohnUK89> Yeah, wouldn't surprise me with that area 22:39:15 <Sacro> i know the UKs youngest mother, she was 10 22:39:23 <JohnUK89> Bloody ell 22:39:24 <Bjarni> a few months ago, a 12 year old girl in Germany gave birth 22:39:35 <Kjetil> thats just sick 22:39:40 <JohnUK89> It shouldn't be biologically possible for girls to have kids at 10... 22:39:46 <Bjarni> then the police showed up at her 17 year old boyfriend to have a talk 22:40:02 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: wouldn't blame them 22:40:21 <JohnUK89> It's a sick person that makes such a young girl pregnant 22:40:40 <Sacro> some girls want to become mothers though 22:40:40 <Bjarni> <JohnUK89> It shouldn't be biologically possible for girls to have kids at 10... <-- the youngest person ever to give birth was 5. It was before DNA, so they never discovered who the father was 22:40:55 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: 5?!?! 22:41:01 <Sacro> Bjarni: yeah, i think shes been mentioned in this channel before 22:41:05 <JohnUK89> How the hell is that possible? 22:41:17 <Bjarni> some gene defect to mature abnormally fast 22:41:37 <JohnUK89> Must have been, there's no other way a 5 year old can become pregnant 22:41:45 <Sacro> ah, jeans >< now what was i supposed to do with them 22:41:57 <Bjarni> Sacro: wear them? 22:42:00 <hylje> kill it with fire 22:42:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: no...now, must check washer, then dryer, cos i was sure i had to do something 22:42:17 <tokai|alternativ> JohnUK89: if u limit this statement on humans that is ;) 22:42:35 <Sacro> and 2 day old milk doesnt do your insides much good 22:42:36 <JohnUK89> tokai|alternativ: of course 22:42:45 <JohnUK89> Sacro: ewww :S 22:43:06 <Sacro> JohnUK89: s'ok, my brother got left home alone for a week, his milk had bits floating in it and he was still drinkig it 22:43:15 <Bjarni> now that's a statement that I presume is correct, even though I never tested it 22:43:19 <JohnUK89> Sacro: that's just disgusting 22:43:34 <Sacro> yeah, im known on here for having out of date stuff 22:43:40 <Sacro> Belugas will back that one up 22:43:41 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I have, had food poisoning for 3 days 22:43:55 * Bjarni sets channel rule: Sacro is not to talk about eating/drinking gross stuff ever again 22:44:16 * JohnUK89 picks up from where Sacro has to leave off 22:44:27 <Bjarni> don't 22:44:28 <JohnUK89> I had some liver for me tea tonight, very nice :) 22:44:43 <Bjarni> yeah, sounds nice 22:44:56 <Bjarni> hmm 22:44:57 <Brianetta> I once complained to Helen that my sandwich tasted of mackerel when it was just a cheese sandwich 22:45:06 <Bjarni> liver and tea... I don't think I ever tried that combo 22:45:17 <Brianetta> Helen said, "You didn't put that bread on the top of the fridge, did you? We had mackeral a week ago!" 22:45:22 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: tea is a phrase for dinner where I'm from 22:45:35 <Brianetta> and dinner is lunch 22:45:37 <Sacro> Brianetta: ouch 22:45:48 <Brianetta> Sacro: Was I ill? 22:45:50 <Sacro> JohnUK89: liver is gorgeous, as is kidney 22:45:52 <JohnUK89> Brianetta: yep :) 22:45:52 <Brianetta> Of course not. 22:46:07 <JohnUK89> Sacro: yeah, can't beat it 22:46:18 <Brianetta> My dad ate ants once 22:46:33 <Brianetta> They had got into the cupboard, and were eating the luncheon meayt 22:46:36 <JohnUK89> I tend to have both on the same plate, they're subtly different 22:46:36 <Sacro> my dad eats banana sandwiches 22:46:47 <Brianetta> he made a sandwich with it anyway. he did flick a couple off. 22:46:48 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I quite like apple sandwiches 22:47:03 <Brianetta> They were running over his hands and wrists as he ate 22:47:18 <Sacro> Brianetta: thats disgusting 22:47:21 <Brianetta> Mind you, I once ate maggots 22:47:28 <Brianetta> they were stirred into the baked beans 22:47:29 <Bjarni> Brianetta: do you ever clean your fridge? :p 22:47:30 <Brianetta> I found out later 22:47:31 <JohnUK89> Brianetta: ewwww :S 22:47:40 <Brianetta> That's Scout camp for you 22:47:52 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Not the top 22:48:02 <Brianetta> I do spill the hot kettle on it, though 22:48:08 <Brianetta> because it's where the kettle lives 22:48:12 <JohnUK89> Brianetta: you should really clean it :) 22:48:23 <Brianetta> of wait, it's not the fridge, it's the tumble dryer 22:48:30 <Brianetta> The fridge is rather taller 22:48:39 <Brianetta> and the dead fridge used to be where the tumble dryer is 22:48:48 <Brianetta> You didn't want to see inside the dead fridge 22:48:57 <Brianetta> We only got it taken away to make room for the dryer 22:49:08 *** JackONeill [n=JackONei@87.113.82.227.bbplus.pte-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:49:13 <Bjarni> oh, that reminds me of when I was driving some English speaking people out to shop. They started talking about they needed to buy a kettle and thought "wtf do they need cattle for" 22:49:18 <Brianetta> Our current fridge (a firdge freezer) keeps getting warm 22:49:20 <Bjarni> I learned a new word that day :p 22:50:12 <Sacro> cattle are useful 22:50:22 <Bjarni> I think it was the funniest way to learn such a word XD 22:50:50 <Bjarni> ok, I kind of knew pretty fast that they would not go shopping for cattle in midtown, so it had to mean something else ;) 22:52:22 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Special:Recentchanges <-- I have been busy 22:52:30 <Sacro> Bjarni: our town had a cattle market 22:52:42 <Sacro> in fact, go to hull and look at the women 22:52:59 <Born_Acorn> I've been working on the wiki all day! 22:53:17 *** tokai|alternativ [n=tokai@p54B8139F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["It's like, wah."] 22:53:40 <Born_Acorn> Well, not all day, but non-stop since 7pm. It's nearly 12pm. 22:53:53 <Bjarni> <Sacro> in fact, go to hull and look at the women <-- I'm not pedophile 22:54:16 <Sacro> Bjarni: well just look for grandparents then 22:54:17 <Bjarni> you just said that they are really young there and then you tell me to go there to find women 22:54:31 <Sacro> no, you go there to learn what to avoid 22:54:53 <Bjarni> I damn well know what to avoid even without being to such a place 22:55:13 <Bjarni> 30 year old grandparents for instance 22:55:15 *** Belugas_Gone [n=jfranc@ip-92.40.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 22:55:26 <Bjarni> hi Belugas_Gone 22:55:30 <Sacro> heh 22:55:39 <Belugas_Gone> hello guys 22:55:55 <Bjarni> Belugas_Gone: what's this all about? 22:55:56 <Bjarni> Fix : A ship in a depot must be stopped before allowed to be cloned. 22:55:56 <Bjarni> As this is standard behaviour for all other vehicle types... 22:56:43 <Bjarni> hmm 22:57:14 <Belugas_Gone> ? you do not believe me? 22:57:34 <Bjarni> it's more like I fail to find the bug ;) 22:58:00 <Belugas_Gone> airplanes, trains and trucks are all checked for hangard AND stopped 22:58:03 <Belugas_Gone> not ships 22:58:12 * JohnUK89 decides on destination for next year's holiday 22:58:23 <Belugas_Gone> it may not be a BIG OH MY GOD BUG... but in my book, it is 22:58:40 <Brianetta> / 22:58:41 <Brianetta> \ 22:58:41 <Brianetta> / 22:58:42 <Brianetta> \ 22:58:42 * Sacro imagines a 10ft tall cockroach... 22:58:48 <Sacro> Brianetta: | 22:59:07 <Brianetta> bite the bug 22:59:19 <Brianetta> Ever chewed a beetle? They're really bitter 22:59:29 <Bjarni> I wouldn't know 22:59:29 * Belugas_Gone squished it hard :) 22:59:34 <Bjarni> I never ran out of food 23:00:03 <Sacro> and with bugs, you never will 23:00:19 <glx> full of proteins :) 23:00:20 <Brianetta> You don't have to be hungry to see what things taste like 23:01:14 <Brianetta> Worms 23:01:14 <Bjarni> Belugas_Gone: ahh, now I realise why. A ship will always leave the depot right away while the other vehicles can queue up, so the bug will even be displayed. It's just a code thing for something that will never be triggered. Well it's good to have it fixed if we ever do something about ship collisions 23:01:23 <Brianetta> Even if you clean a worm, it tastes of soil 23:01:47 <Bjarni> I just realised that if Brianetta was from Hull, then he would be a granddad by now. That would make Helen.... good thing you don't live in Hull ;) 23:02:01 <Brianetta> Why would I be a grandad? 23:02:10 <Bjarni> your age 23:02:14 <Brianetta> oh 23:02:20 <Brianetta> as old as a grandad 23:02:23 <Brianetta> I already am 23:02:53 <Bjarni> it seems that you would be one if you lived in Hull... at least according to statistics 23:03:11 <Brianetta> Kids at 15 would meake me easily a grandad 23:03:13 <Sacro> Bjarni: i am not statistically correct... 23:03:17 <Brianetta> kids at 16, not quite 23:03:26 <Brianetta> Hull is just a short train ride away 23:03:30 <Sacro> Brianetta: 2 23:03:48 <Sacro> change at York/Doncaster 23:04:01 <Brianetta> I still call a train ride a train ride if there's a change 23:04:05 <Brianetta> It's still just one ticket 23:04:34 <Sacro> i can get halfway accross europe on 1 ticket (eurostar) 23:04:58 <Bjarni> I can take a train ride to Sweden or Germany. That's not the same as I'm banging Swedes or Germans... 23:05:23 <Sacro> mmmmmmmm, swedish girls 23:08:46 <Kjetil> Bjarni: stop banging my swedes 23:08:50 <Bjarni> I saw some statistics about young men's sexual behaviour and one of the questions was about what girls of non Danish nationality they went to bed with. According to the result, it appears that Danes likes Swedish girls a lot.... the test was made in Copenhagen, which is like a 30 minutes train ride from Sweden, so maybe it's just a result of a whole lot more Swedes presents than say Dutch people 23:09:55 <Sacro> mmmmmmmmm swedish girls... 23:10:11 * Sacro prepares for a long swim 23:10:12 <Bjarni> what's so special about Swedish girls? 23:10:22 <Kjetil> They are blonde and stuff.. 23:10:33 <Bjarni> ohh 23:10:34 <Sacro> Kjetil: yes...blonde and stuff 23:10:46 <Bjarni> they are blonds and got boobs and stuff like that 23:11:04 <Sacro> :o http://images.google.co.uk/images?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&q=swedish+girls&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images 23:11:05 <Bjarni> like that's not true for anybody else in Scandinavia XD 23:11:08 *** AciD [n=gni@unaffiliated/acid] has quit ["Connection not reset by peer."] 23:11:09 <Sacro> maybe NFSW depending on settings... 23:11:25 <Kjetil> acctually is kind of wierd, last time I went to sweden the blond factor increased by 10 at the border 23:11:48 <Bjarni> they aren't blond... see http://lovingladies.wwdl.net/mp/p611-1.jpg 23:11:53 <Sacro> Kjetil: fleeing? 23:11:56 <Bjarni> there is nothing for you to get in Sweden 23:12:00 <Bjarni> you were mistaken 23:12:29 <Sacro> but look at her BREASTS :O 23:14:41 <Kjetil> Sacro: yeah :P 23:15:01 <Sacro> [00:14] <Sacro> but look at her BREASTS :O 23:15:01 <Sacro> [00:16] <Kjetil> Sacro: yeah :P <-- im disturbed by the 2 minute lag... 23:15:08 <Kjetil> haha 23:15:20 <Born_Acorn> he was busy oggling 23:15:30 <Bjarni> so you guys would chase those girls just due to how they look? 23:15:33 <Kjetil> I was reading a political discussion on another channel.. I swear to god ! 23:15:42 <Bjarni> I got a secret about them to tell you 23:15:47 <Bjarni> they speak .... Swedish 23:15:58 <Kjetil> Bjarni: dang.. you had to ruin the magic 23:16:17 <Sacro> Bjarni: you havent heard the Hull accent, scars you for life 23:16:26 <Bjarni> <Kjetil> I was reading a political discussion on another channel.. I swear to god ! <-- that's bad from a guy, who is only connected to one channel XD 23:17:01 <Bjarni> Sacro: well, I can imagine. Also they got a social welfare issue and low education, right? 23:17:04 <Sacro> hmm, just read "Wanted Bass Player", now is that for a band, or for a crime 23:17:11 <Sacro> Bjarni: spot on 23:17:17 <Kjetil> Bjarni: make that 16 :P ( EFnet ) 23:17:36 *** AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #openttd 23:17:37 <Sacro> http://www.area51newmexico.com/page_hull.php covers a fair bit 23:19:10 <Sacro> 'Ull is full of 'istory, in fact, many buildings which were bombed during the war still lay in ruins... its so true 23:19:12 *** Osai^sun [n=Osai@p54B3766B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 23:19:59 *** Rens2Sea [n=Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 23:24:25 <Born_Acorn> https://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=57330 23:24:27 <Bjarni> well 23:24:28 <Born_Acorn> hmm 23:24:35 <Born_Acorn> OpenTTD on Xfire? 23:24:44 <Bjarni> I read 10% of it and could guess the rest 23:24:47 <Bjarni> I get the picture 23:25:09 <Bjarni> actually I got the picture just by reading 8) There is a special prize if you find a 12 year old virgin. 23:25:19 <Bjarni> the rest are just some spinoff 23:25:24 <Born_Acorn> They need people to support it in that thread. 23:25:27 <Born_Acorn> Go there people! 23:25:45 <Sacro> whats an Xfire 23:25:48 <Born_Acorn> It could be a source of players. 23:26:01 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes, 12 year old virgins arent easy to find 23:26:02 <Born_Acorn> Some sort of game monitoring system. 23:26:44 <Born_Acorn> It records how long and how many games you play. Like an inflatable e-penis for gamers, if you excuse the terminology. 23:27:03 * Sacro hits Born_Acorn over the head with an inflatable e-penis 23:27:21 <Born_Acorn> :o 23:27:38 <Sacro> just be glad you where facing me ;) 23:27:56 <Bjarni> [01:27] * Sacro hits Born_Acorn over the head with an inflatable e-penis 23:27:56 <Bjarni> [01:27] <Born_Acorn> :o 23:28:06 <Bjarni> somehow that face reaction scares me 23:28:07 <Sacro> [00:29] <Bjarni> [01:27] * Sacro hits Born_Acorn over the head with an inflatable e-penis 23:28:07 <Sacro> [00:29] <Bjarni> [01:27] <Born_Acorn> :o 23:28:30 <Born_Acorn> (00:29:16) <Sacro> [00:29] <Bjarni> [01:27] * Sacro hits Born_Acorn over the head with an inflatable e-penis 23:28:30 <Born_Acorn> (00:29:16) <Sacro> [00:29] <Bjarni> [01:27] <Born_Acorn> :o 23:28:32 <JohnUK89> Scares me too 23:28:33 * JohnUK89 runs 23:28:46 <Bjarni> unless the Janet Jones is actually the real name 23:28:51 <Sacro> JohnUK89: i know where you live ;) 23:28:57 <Bjarni> me too 23:29:00 <Bjarni> in the UK 23:29:02 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I know ;-) 23:29:22 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: he knows it a bit more accurately than that 23:29:24 <JohnUK89> lol 23:29:24 <Sacro> that reminds me, i have a dvd to burn 23:29:31 <Bjarni> ahh, Sacro mailed that virus DVD to JohnUK89 23:29:33 <Born_Acorn> I know where peter1138 lives! 23:29:34 <JohnUK89> Sacro: you do indeed :P 23:30:01 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: it's going to be put thru me AV scanner ;-) 23:30:35 <Bjarni> how will you detect a virus with an Audio/Video scanner? 23:30:43 * Sacro puts goatse on the civer 23:30:45 <Sacro> *cover 23:30:55 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: AntiVirus ;-) 23:31:01 <Bjarni> and the destop 23:31:04 <Bjarni> and the boot image 23:31:10 <Bjarni> and a whole lot of other places 23:31:14 <Bjarni> right? 23:32:00 <JohnUK89> Lol 23:32:05 <Sacro> Bjarni: hehe 23:32:10 * Sacro remembers Linuxxx 23:32:19 <JohnUK89> Sacro: did you get it sent off today, or will it be tomorrow? 23:32:34 <Sacro> JohnUK89: ill mail it tommorow 23:32:39 <Bjarni> that reminds me of a story I heard. A woman needed to borrow a notebook at work to do some work at home. When she booted it for the first time, it started a porn movie in fullscreen and it was uninterruptable and when it was done, a script deleted it 23:32:42 <JohnUK89> Sacro: okies, cheers :) 23:32:53 <Sacro> 7 hours and i can bundle in a free copy of OSX 23:32:53 <Bjarni> some guys looked a bit funny when she returned it 23:33:12 <JohnUK89> Sacro: may as well :-p 23:33:16 <Bjarni> a free copy of OSX??? 23:33:25 <Sacro> for my Hackintosh 23:33:48 <JohnUK89> A shame my machine doesn't RUN OSX :p 23:33:59 <Sacro> http://osx86project.org/ 23:34:15 <JohnUK89> Does it care if it's an AMD? lol 23:34:21 <Bjarni> I'm told it's not that good compared to the real thing 23:34:37 <Bjarni> I mean, it should have a lot of issues 23:34:46 *** sayno [n=sayno@ppp-168-253-15-97.den1.ip.ricochet.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:35:03 <Bjarni> real OSX on a hardware mac is not only legal, it also runs out of the box without giving problems all the time 23:35:07 *** mikk36 [n=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 23:35:18 <Bjarni> isn't that right mikk36? 23:35:36 <Sacro> JohnUK89: 10.4.6 doesnt 23:35:44 <mikk36> ? 23:35:54 <JohnUK89> Sacro: oooh, may be worth a try :-D 23:35:56 <Sacro> [00:37] <Bjarni> i like cheese 23:36:14 <Sacro> mikk36: ^^ 23:36:19 <mikk36> and? 23:36:46 <Sacro> hes gone quiet 23:38:25 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [liar] 23:38:42 *** Sacro [n=ben@adsl-83-100-141-204.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:38:44 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 23:38:44 <Sacro> !logs 23:38:54 <Sacro> ok, so Bjarni doesnt like cheese :( 23:39:07 <JohnUK89> Sacro: is the version of OSX yer getting prepatched? O:-) 23:39:13 <Sacro> JohnUK89: course 23:39:27 <JohnUK89> Sacro: fancy bundling in a copy? :P 23:39:33 <mikk36> brb 23:39:49 *** mikk36 [n=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:39:58 <Sacro> JohnUK89: hehe, the more cds you want, the more fun for you, i dont have a cd labeller :) 23:40:29 <JohnUK89> Sacro: lol I can work out what's on them, I have a few CDR pens 23:40:54 <Sacro> cool 23:41:02 <Sacro> well my bro is going out now, so i can use the dvd writer 23:41:08 <JohnUK89> Corny phrase time... 23:41:14 <JohnUK89> "How can I ever repay you" :P 23:41:26 *** sayno [n=sayno@ip67-88-107-227.z107-88-67.customer.algx.net] has joined #openttd 23:41:30 <Sacro> beer... 23:41:36 <JohnUK89> Lol 23:41:38 <Bjarni> send women 23:41:49 <JohnUK89> It'll have to wait till mid-September :( 23:41:57 <JohnUK89> Got no ££ till them 23:41:59 <JohnUK89> then* 23:42:10 <Sacro> ooh yes, york has some mighty fine lasses 23:42:19 <Bjarni> you get paid in the middle of the month? 23:42:22 *** mikk36 [n=mikk36@pc51.host2.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 23:42:23 <Bjarni> what's what? 23:42:34 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: I get paid for going to Sixth Form 23:42:43 <JohnUK89> I don't start till September 23:42:59 <Sacro> damn EMA earners 23:43:07 <Bjarni> somebody is administrating your paycheques to divide them into equal paycheques each week or something? 23:43:15 <JohnUK89> Sacro: hehe 23:43:25 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: nah 23:43:29 <JohnUK89> I don't have a job 23:43:41 <Bjarni> Sixth Form? you are morphing into a new form? 23:43:57 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: think of Sixth Form as college 23:43:58 * Sacro scuttles upstairs 23:44:25 <Bjarni> you are morphing into a college??? 23:44:33 <JohnUK89> Bjarni: noooo 23:44:36 <Bjarni> that will take some talent 23:44:50 *** Brianetta [n=brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["bed"] 23:44:58 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:48:52 <Sacro> hehe, IRC over VNC 23:49:08 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I can't imagine it on my connection 23:49:25 <pv2b> Sacro: irc over SSH here 23:49:36 <Sacro> i wonder if my mum would notice if i installed Ubuntu on her pc 23:49:37 <pv2b> local hamburger place here has free wlan :-) 23:50:57 <Sacro> JohnUK89: so, i have ISOs for the Alternative and Live cds, or i could just copy the LXF disc 23:51:24 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I think the LXF disc would be better, it has Kubuntu and Xububtu as well 23:51:36 <Sacro> JohnUK89: and Mandrake One 23:51:56 <JohnUK89> Sacro: indeed lol 23:52:43 <Sacro> mm, linux looks sexy on a nice tft 23:53:02 <JohnUK89> Sacro: if I could get dual screen working it would be even sexier ;-) 23:53:14 <pv2b> Sacro: linux? twm or what? 23:53:15 <pv2b> :-) 23:53:20 <Sacro> i want a 3 screen PC, Vista, GNOME and OSX 23:53:28 <Sacro> pv2b: GNOME 23:53:33 <pv2b> aha. 23:53:38 <JohnUK89> Sacro: TripleHead2Go ;-) 23:53:51 <Sacro> id call it Cerberus 23:54:14 <JohnUK89> Hehehe 23:54:32 <JohnUK89> Get VMWare going on the Linux box :-D 23:54:38 *** lws1984 [n=lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Bye!"] 23:54:58 <Sacro> im trying to figure out Xen 23:55:14 <JohnUK89> Sacro: I've never tried 23:55:15 <JohnUK89> Lol 23:55:24 <Belugas_Gone> Bjarni : thanks for the explanation about ships and depot :) I only found out while working on XTDwidget. It was the only vehicle not having the same check for cloning/send to depot toggle :) 23:55:55 <Sacro> 1:30 on image making 23:56:16 <JohnUK89> Sacro: nice one :) 23:56:43 <Sacro> and i just discovered this whole house is rigged to 4 fuses 23:57:00 <JohnUK89> Sacro: only 4?? 23:57:19 <JohnUK89> We have 8 trip switches here 23:57:40 <pv2b> i have 4 for my apartment which si about 23 m^2 23:58:07 <Sacro> well, there should be lights x 2, sockets x2, shower, oven, garage/shed 23:58:26 <Sacro> ooh, burning at 10x 23:58:44 <JohnUK89> Sacro: DVD speed? 23:59:01 <Sacro> JohnUK89: yes 23:59:08 <JohnUK89> Sacro: nice one! :) 23:59:24 <Sacro> its my mums pc, mine has no graphics card 23:59:28 <Sacro> or keyboard, or mosue 23:59:32 *** KritiK [i=Maxim@ppp85-140-142-75.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 23:59:38 <Sacro> 11.5x 23:59:38 <JohnUK89> Sacro: aah you VNC in 23:59:52 <Sacro> yep, im on my mums, VNC'd to my laptop