Log for #openttd on 16th August 2006:
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00:45:20  <lolman> Night all
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02:00:31  <lws1984> ping
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02:13:03  <roboman> hello
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02:45:16  <roboman> bye
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03:10:05  <Scuanor> ah new network :)
03:10:08  <Scuanor> hellot :)
03:10:14  <Scuanor> -t
03:17:54  <Scuanor> so, if i choose 1925 as startdate for a new game, i cant built trainstations, because i also cant buy trains, but maybe there could be a less confusing mesagebox as "Can't built railway station here"?
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06:27:45  <roboman> bye
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07:01:46  <MiHaMiX> morning
07:01:51  <lws1984> howdy
07:02:19  <Guest56> hi
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07:11:44  <MiHaMiX> :-))))
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07:44:03  <MiHaMiX> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-08-16 09:42:57
07:44:03  <Darkvater> morning
07:44:05  <MiHaMiX> turkish    - 2 fixed by jnmbk (2)
07:44:08  <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: hi :)
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07:49:23  <Darkvater> !seen cia
07:49:24  <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing cia.
07:49:29  <Darkvater> goddammit
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08:00:51  <Darkvater> wb MiHaMiX
08:01:54  <MiHaMiX> :)
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08:10:01  <Darkvater> morning Tron_
08:10:07  <peter1138> morning
08:10:34  <Darkvater> morning peter1138, didn't know you were here ;0
08:10:40  <peter1138> just got in :)
08:11:09  <peter1138> i'm wondering about skiving off to pack more stuff
08:11:13  <peter1138> i've got some much shit
08:12:03  <Darkvater> gogo, move!
08:12:07  <ln-> how many devs have *not* picked their nicks from movies?
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08:12:54  <MiHaMiX> ln-: me :)
08:13:35  <Darkvater> I haven't either
08:13:38  <Rubidium> that's not an answer to his question
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08:13:41  <Darkvater> Lucas stole my name :(
08:13:46  <peter1138> 5
08:13:56  <Darkvater> 4
08:13:59  <peter1138> Lucas stole my number
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08:15:47  <ln-> Darkvater: you have also had "muad'dib" in your real name, haven't you?
08:16:00  * ln- watched THX 1138 yesterday
08:17:18  <Darkvater> ln-: since when is that a movie?
08:18:10  <ln-> Darkvater: 1984
08:18:37  <Darkvater> so because this flynch guy made a movie from the book, it's a movie-name now?
08:18:38  <Darkvater> sad
08:19:13  <Darkvater> muad'dib rules!! Atreides forevuhh!
08:19:28  <Darkvater> Tron_: still no answer from CIA about the move :s
08:19:28  <ln-> yes, sad. and i have to admit i haven't read the book(s) by mr. frank herbert.
08:19:37  * Darkvater slaps ln-
08:19:39  <Darkvater> heresy!
08:19:40  <ln-> quizas hadarak
08:20:52  <ln-> (how is that spelled?)
08:21:27  <Tron_> Darkvater: *grml*
08:21:28  <Maedhros> Darkvater: i know of people who've been waiting for replies from micah for over a month now...
08:21:45  <Tron_> in case anybody is wondering why i enter and leave over and over: i'm just tryin to configure xchat
08:23:41  <Darkvater> Maedhros: that is not what I wanted to hear :(
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08:24:07  <Darkvater> hmm can someone write a bot that copies everything that is said in #openttd-freenode to here?
08:24:25  <Darkvater> I'd run it, but this irssi client can't run perl scripts
08:24:40  <Darkvater> hmm, wait Tron_ kickbanned him ;o
08:24:59  <ln-> whaat, tron never kickbans people
08:25:41  <Tron_> Darkvater:  why not just write a bot which parses the commit emails and posts the content here (;
08:26:22  <MiHaMiX> Tron_: since someone else already wrote that script
08:26:31  <MiHaMiX> Tron_: we can download the source of CIA
08:26:43  <MiHaMiX> Tron_: we just need to configure that, and we can run, I think
08:27:07  <Tron_> MiHaMiX: i just wanted to point out how pointless it is to write a bot which copies what another bot says (:
08:27:39  <MiHaMiX> Tron_: I agree with that
08:28:54  <Darkvater> yes, but such a bot is about 3-4 lines in mIRC
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08:32:24  <peter1138> meh
08:32:27  <peter1138> running out of packing room
08:32:54  <Darkvater> you're packing at work?
08:33:03  <peter1138> no
08:33:07  <peter1138> just thinking instead of working ;p
08:33:17  <Darkvater> :)
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08:37:43  <peter1138> some twit keeps assigning tasks to me on flyspray...
08:38:22  * Darkvater *whistles*
08:38:46  <Darkvater> nothing today though, and your last assignment bjarni committed ;)
08:39:28  <Darkvater> he, I sound like yoda
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08:42:55  <Darkvater> by guys
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08:54:39  <roboman> hello
08:54:51  <Patrick`> Darkvater: bridging bots exist
08:58:58  <blathijs> I'd fire up one in a few minutes, if supybot wouldn't be refusing to connect for some strange reason...
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09:03:02  <Patrick`> remember, one-way
09:03:10  <Patrick`> we don't need any incentive for people to stay there
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09:10:00  <Darkvater> only 3 people left in freenode
09:10:06  <Darkvater> besides some trailing ops
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09:10:12  <Darkvater> 70 here
09:10:19  <roboman> !spam
09:10:19  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
09:11:01  <MiHaMiX> roboboy: no color pls
09:11:04  *** mode/#openttd [+c] by MiHaMiX
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09:11:20  <Darkvater> should've kicked him
09:11:40  <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: +c will be enough for now :)
09:11:59  <Darkvater> weak deterrent
09:12:01  <Darkvater> :)
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09:15:06  <Diablo-D3> welcome to oftc, guys
09:15:17  <MiHaMiX> Diablo-D3: welcome to #openttd
09:15:50  <Darkvater> well hello Diablo-D3. Haven't seen you in quite a while
09:15:59  <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: I quit freenode, remember?
09:16:17  <Darkvater> not really
09:16:23  * Darkvater easily forgets things
09:16:29  <Diablo-D3> hah
09:16:31  <Diablo-D3> well, I did
09:18:36  <Darkvater> this is bad
09:18:45  <Darkvater> 1. I am hungr
09:18:48  <Darkvater> 2. very hungry
09:18:52  <Diablo-D3> 2. your y key is bork
09:18:56  <Darkvater> 3. lunch isn't for yet another hour
09:19:03  <Darkvater> 4. I forgot to bring food
09:20:07  <Darkvater> 5. I'm bored
09:20:14  <Darkvater> very, very dangerous combination
09:20:41  <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: are you threatening us?
09:20:43  <Rubidium> hmm, can do something about that ;)
09:20:45  <ThePizzaKing> hehehe:
09:20:56  <ThePizzaKing> check out the 'recent unhandled messages' section
09:21:53  <Darkvater> Rubidium: you canbring me food?
09:22:10  <Rubidium> no, but could solve the bored part partially
09:22:23  <Diablo-D3> lol
09:22:25  <Darkvater> he
09:22:33  <Diablo-D3> someone forgot to tell scanline that #openttd moved
09:22:35  <MiHaMiX> 08:59 on Aug 16, 2006CIA-5freenodeERR_BANNEDFROMCHAN'CIA-5', '#openttd', "You're banned from that channel"
09:22:43  <Darkvater> ERR_BANNEDFROMCHAN
09:22:52  <Diablo-D3> Ill go tell him
09:23:04  <Darkvater> Diablo-D3: someone at cia forgot to move cia after repeated requests :(
09:23:09  <Darkvater> Diablo-D3: would be great :D
09:23:14  <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: that would be scanline
09:24:01  <Darkvater> ah /me wonders at who scanline is
09:24:34  <Diablo-D3> the owner of cia.
09:25:09  <Darkvater> ah
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09:27:02  <Diablo-D3> Darkvater: hes either asleep or at work atm
09:27:09  <Diablo-D3> he'll probably do it in the next day or so
09:27:46  <Darkvater> that would be awesome
09:27:52  <Darkvater> you DO come in handy ;)
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09:48:04  <Maedhros> are there any devs around that i can persuade/bribe to look over my diagonal crossings patch and tell me what i need to do for it to be considered for inclusion into openttd?
09:48:16  <peter1138> cookies
09:48:20  <peter1138> lots of chocolate
09:48:20  <peter1138> beer
09:48:23  <peter1138> in that order
09:48:25  <Darkvater> help you move?
09:48:40  <peter1138> if you want
09:50:10  * Maedhros wonders how well the royal mail will cope with sending beer
09:51:12  <Darkvater> they'll probably single it out, drink it themselves and then blaim terrorists for it
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09:54:37  <Nigel> hey Diablo-D3
09:55:12  <Diablo-D3> Nigel: YAR TERRORISTS!
09:55:21  <Diablo-D3> er, wtf you doing in here?
09:56:11  <Nigel> you know, you reckon the CIA would have known to move the bot before you actually moved, like they *ARE* the CIA, they are meant to know everything, it's their job description
09:56:29  <Diablo-D3> shuddup Nigel
09:56:37  <Diablo-D3> the joke was only funny the first 4329801 times.
09:56:58  <Nigel> Diablo-D3, I play OpenTTD, so i might as well know what happens
09:58:09  <Diablo-D3> just because CIA watches subversion doesnt mean its _that_ CIA
09:58:45  <Nigel> i know, i know
09:58:56  <Nigel> I use the CIA as well
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10:04:17  <Darkvater> quickly hide!
10:04:46  <peter1138> i already was
10:06:22  * Bjarni hides
10:06:25  <Bjarni> what are we hiding from?
10:06:30  <Darkvater> you
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10:06:39  <Born_Acorn> og
10:06:43  <Born_Acorn> D:
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10:07:52  <Bjarni> why?
10:08:04  <Bjarni> I know you are here, so why hide?
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10:09:08  <Rubidium> is there anybody who currently has access to MSVC, has the latest trunk revision and is willing to compile-test a patch?
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10:10:12  <Darkvater> cause Belugas said so
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10:24:38  <Darkvater> yaay, food :D
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10:35:16  <peter1138> hmm, not far til r6000
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11:43:38  <Sacro> whoo, laptop going again
11:45:16  <MiHaMiX> Sacro: going where?
11:45:42  <Sacro> MiHaMiX: slowly towards the bin
11:45:48  <MiHaMiX> Sacro: :-(
11:45:55  <MiHaMiX> Sacro: how old is your laptop?
11:46:43  <Sacro> errm, i bought it off a mate about 3 months ago, i think its about 3/4 years old
11:47:07  <Darkvater> your mate screwed you over big time
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11:47:22  <Sacro> i only paid £200 for it, i still owe him £100
11:47:33  <MiHaMiX> Sacro: hmm..
11:47:40  <Sacro> he aint getting it either
11:48:04  <Darkvater> you can give him back the laptop as the payment ;)
11:48:13  <Sacro> heh, hes said that
11:48:16  <roboman> gnight
11:48:19  <Sacro> but its not like its worth out
11:48:21  <MiHaMiX> Sacro: my laptop is 4 years old now, I bought it for 1400 euro four years ago
11:48:23  <Sacro> *owt
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11:48:37  <Bjarni> Sacro: what about warranty?
11:48:54  <Sacro> Bjarni: it wont have one
11:48:58  <Dred_furst> I found the channel :)
11:49:07  <Bjarni> why not?
11:49:11  <Sacro> too old
11:49:38  <Bjarni> oh, you mean 3 or 4 years old, not 9 months
11:49:41  <Bjarni> right?
11:49:53  <Sacro> yeah, 3-4 :)
11:49:54  <Darkvater> Dred_furst: congratulations :)
11:49:59  <Dred_furst> lol
11:50:00  <Dred_furst> :)
11:50:08  <Bjarni> Dred_furst: hi
11:50:10  <Bjarni> nice to see you
11:50:13  <Dred_furst> Hey :)
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11:51:01  <Bjarni> according to whois, Dred_furst's real name is "NoNameScript user", just in case you guys were wondering who found the channel ;)
11:51:13  <Dred_furst> lol let me change that
11:51:19  <Dred_furst> This is a fairly plain install of it
11:52:10  <Darkvater> I never really liked nnscript
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11:52:38  <Darkvater> wow, who would've thought tron would have so much trouble with xchat
11:52:38  <Bjarni> well mr user. Do you think it was hard to find the channel?
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11:57:13  <Bjarni> hello again mr user
11:57:53  <Dred_furst`> Has it fixed it? :)
11:58:03  <Dred_furst`> Damn it
11:59:03  <Darkvater> what it has fixed it what?
11:59:10  <Dred_furst`> The whois thing
11:59:18  <Darkvater> look yourself
11:59:21  <Darkvater>  /whois Dred_furst
11:59:24  <Dred_furst`> Did
11:59:26  <Dred_furst`> Its still the same
11:59:34  <Darkvater> yep
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12:00:05  <Bjarni> bye mr user
12:00:10  <Dred_furst`> lol
12:00:26  <XeryusTC> heya Bjarni :)
12:00:45  <Bjarni> damn Atari sucks
12:00:50  <Bjarni> at least their homepage
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12:01:02  <hylje> hah
12:01:05  <Bjarni> I wanted to see screenshots of nwn 2, but then I had to register to do so
12:01:13  <Bjarni> ok, I did
12:01:19  <lolman> Lol unlucky :P
12:01:21  <Bjarni> now I get timeout when trying to log in
12:01:27  <Bjarni> everything else works
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12:01:31  <Bjarni> just not the login
12:01:54  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: nwn 2 is being published by atari?
12:02:00  <Bjarni> yes
12:02:09  <Bjarni> they will release it in a month or so
12:02:18  <Bjarni>
12:02:18  <XeryusTC> never knew that :)
12:02:37  <Bjarni> maybe you can log in :p
12:02:52  <XeryusTC> why can i just view those screenshots?
12:03:12  <XeryusTC> well, some of them
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12:03:24  <XeryusTC> i cant view the galary though
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12:03:50  <Bjarni> I think they are harvesting email addresses to send newsletters about the release to or something. Maybe getting countries as well
12:03:59  <Darkvater> wb mr user
12:04:01  <Dred_furst> There fixed
12:04:16  <Bjarni> Dred_furst: not here :p
12:04:29  <Dred_furst> o.o
12:04:32  <Bjarni> hmm
12:04:41  <Bjarni> safari can log in, but not firefox
12:04:44  <Bjarni> bad homepage :p
12:04:45  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: there's probably some big time spammer behind it so he can spam us with mail about penis enlargements
12:04:49  <Bjarni> Dred_furst: just kidding :p
12:04:56  <Dred_furst> lol :P
12:05:22  <Bjarni> XeryusTC: yeah, that's why I got a hotmail account for that kind of signup
12:05:31  <Bjarni> and it is getting spammed big time
12:06:02  <XeryusTC> my gmail is being spammed more then my hotmail nowadays :(
12:06:19  <Dred_furst> mine too
12:06:32  <Bjarni> I don't have gmail and I don't need one
12:06:33  <XeryusTC> and it's stupid that i cant find a option to set it to delete spam right away before sending it to the spam box
12:06:52  <Dred_furst> my spam filter is working ok ish
12:06:58  <Bjarni> I got the hotmail one for (spam)risky stuff and everything else goes to the uni account
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12:07:03  <XeryusTC> nor do i know to which * it's being send, i could just block that one :(
12:07:13  <Dred_furst> I currently have 2125 spam emails in spam
12:07:18  <XeryusTC> lol
12:07:23  <XeryusTC> i only got ~50-70
12:07:34  <Dred_furst> Ive been getting it for months, majority goes in there
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12:09:12  <Darkvater> gmail's spam filter is pretty good so far for me
12:09:16  <Darkvater> got about 200 spammails
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12:09:32  <Darkvater> the funny thing is; about 40% of those are from the openttd maillist ;s
12:09:37  <XeryusTC> it's good, but i can't set it to delete it before sending it in the spam bin :(
12:10:01  <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i never get spam :(
12:10:15  <XeryusTC> lucky bastard
12:10:21  <Eddi|zuHause> guess my university's spam filter is too good ;)
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12:11:12  <Belugas> Damned logs...  missing 10 minutes
12:11:20  <Belugas> what did I said so, Darkvater?
12:11:42  <Eddi|zuHause> to hide from Bjarni ;)
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12:12:08  <Bjarni> I once complained to the data support guys at uni that my mail account were unusable due to 1-200 spammails each day. They didn't care so I spend a great deal of time writing my own in procmail
12:13:58  <Bjarni> those screenshots looks ok (nwn2), but they look like they were made on a quad 10 GHz system with tomorrows video card and maybe several of them in raid
12:14:18  <Bjarni> some of them looks more or less prerendered to me
12:14:24  <Patrick`> heh
12:14:30  <lolman> Bjarni: Octuple SLI or something? :P
12:14:33  <Patrick`> prerendered just means you have a very very low framerate
12:14:59  <Bjarni> well, that's an option too
12:15:30  <Belugas> I would NEVER say such a thing.  Lies!!!!
12:15:44  <Belugas> well.. not in public, anyway ;)
12:15:51  <Belugas> going to the office...
12:15:52  <Belugas> see you soon
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12:18:01  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: the concept art looks better than the screenshots on the main page
12:18:34  <Bjarni> most likely
12:19:09  <Bjarni> but right now I'm downloading one of the videos and it's like they got a cap on bandwidth to each IP or something
12:19:21  <Bjarni> it have become very slow, but other homepages loads just fine
12:21:09  <lolman> Bjarni: might just be a crap/overloaded server
12:21:42  <lolman> But bandwidth limits are a possibility...
12:22:40  <Bjarni> hehe, now it all of a sudden decided to double my bandwidth for a few sec while I downloaded a large image
12:23:06  <Bjarni> I had to wait say 30 sec for it to start though
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12:44:22  <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: what is your avatar? I'm bored and browsing the forums and your avatar has had me puzzled for most of the day now
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12:44:54  <Darkvater> some tranformer/mega-bot thingie or is it some closeup of a combine?
12:44:58  <Darkvater> spaceship?
12:45:03  <Darkvater> truck?
12:45:21  <Tron_> Darkvater: it's a commander from Total Annihilation
12:45:40  <Darkvater> ah..
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12:46:26  <Born_Acorn> Tron_ knows his stuff!
12:47:08  <Tron_> of course i do
12:47:22  <Tron_> btw: there's a really nice TA clone with a 3D engine
12:48:20  <wohnout> i dont like 3D engine
12:48:23  <wohnout> this is better
12:48:48  <lolman> 3d sucks when you have 2d :-D
12:49:14  <Zavior> I've always wondered
12:49:19  <Zavior> Is it born a corn
12:49:23  <Zavior> or born acorn
12:49:34  <Zavior> Ta: spring is nice, ye
12:50:09  <lolman> Zavior: It's Born Acorn, that's his name on tt-forums at least
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12:51:20  <stillunknown> has anyone ever had a city in ottd (developed in a natural way) with 100.000 inhabitants?
12:52:15  <Zavior> That would take very long :|
12:52:50  <lolman> Is it even possible?
12:53:19  <stillunknown> i have one with 35000, but 100000 is still a long way
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12:54:40  <Born_Acorn> Supreme Commander is the un-official sequel. Can't wait.
12:55:33  <stillunknown> let's hope it's not the spiritual brother of locomotion :-)
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13:03:25  <Eddi|zuHause> i got 50000 without doing much, but 100000 i cannot remember
13:05:30  <Zavior> Born_Acorn, yeah
13:05:37  <Zavior> It even has dual screen support!
13:05:38  <Zavior> ;>
13:05:43  <Born_Acorn> And dual Core!
13:05:54  <Zavior> Many games already have that (:
13:06:13  <Born_Acorn> well yes, but woo anyway
13:06:19  <Zavior> :D
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13:10:26  <Bjarni> <Tron_>	btw: there's a really nice TA clone with a 3D engine <-- name/URL?
13:10:28  <lolman> Oh Noes!
13:10:48  <lolman> It's Sacro!
13:10:50  * lolman runs
13:11:38  <Sacro> lolman: yes, my laptop broke :(
13:11:48  <lolman> Sacro: completely?
13:11:51  <stillunknown>
13:12:11  <Sacro> lolman: well, almost, it will occasionaly go for about 10 mins
13:12:30  <Sacro> mums pc now has firefox, hydrairc
13:12:34  <lolman> Sacro: time for a new one methinks :)
13:12:49  <lolman> Anyways, I'm gone for a reboot
13:12:51  <lolman> brb :)
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13:15:43  <lolman> Nice quick reboot :-D
13:15:46  <Zavior> Bjarni, ta: spring
13:16:00  <Bjarni> I figured that out based on the link ;)
13:16:28  <Bjarni> no OSX port....
13:16:33  <Bjarni> crappy software :p
13:19:51  <ln->
13:21:24  <Bjarni> hehe
13:21:59  <guru3> i'm in favor of loosing caps lock too
13:22:00  <Patrick`> mmm, taspring
13:22:18  <Bjarni> that reminds me of when my sister was 8 or something like that. She came home from school and said that they had written on the computers and the one they had broke so it could only write uppercase
13:22:42  <Bjarni> for a fee of say EUR10, would be able to fix that computer
13:22:49  <guru3> hrhrhr
13:23:04  <Kjetil> *remaps CapsLock to something useful*
13:23:13  <Bjarni> never got the offer though
13:23:18  <guru3> it's useful for testing if the keyboard works
13:23:21  <guru3> turning the light on and off
13:23:57  <Patrick`> indeed
13:23:59  <Patrick`> that's what I do
13:23:59  <Bjarni> oh I once saw a useful feature for capslock. In a game, it controlled an on/off feature. Kind of like if OTTD controlled fast forward with caps lock
13:24:16  <Patrick`> however, it'll be handy for remapping the super key (windows key)
13:24:17  <Bjarni> think of it. If we move fast forward to when there is light in the keyboard...
13:24:26  <Bjarni> only useful thing to use it for though
13:24:26  <Patrick`> since I plan on getting and IBM model M
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13:24:56  <Bjarni> <guru3>	it's useful for testing if the keyboard works <-- and you can't use scrolllock for that?
13:25:04  <Bjarni> or numlock
13:25:20  <XeryusTC> i use capslock to use caps in important signs ;)
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13:25:48  <guru3> mm
13:25:56  <guru3> scroll lock tends to do funky stuff when testing
13:26:00  <guru3> esp if you have a kvm
13:27:56  <Kjetil> ">" -- wee seperate keys for lesser than and greater than. Caps lock is finally usefull
13:28:07  <guru3> lol
13:29:52  <Bjarni> hahaha. I just saw a guy mentioning that the thread have gone off topic... the tread is in the off topic forum and it's not moved
13:30:48  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: even threads in the off topic section tend to go off topic sometimes
13:32:01  <lolman> XeryusTC: isn't that the idea of an off-topic section?
13:38:07  <stillunknown> but a thread in offtopic (forum) can still be ontopic about a subject
13:38:44  <XeryusTC> the idea of an off topic section is to have a place where topics can go that dont fit in any other sections
13:39:00  <XeryusTC> not to hold threads that become off topic after a while
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13:41:37  <Bjarni> <-- interesting
13:41:54  <peter1138> is it?
13:42:15  <peter1138> "true" or "trucated" ?
13:42:37  <Bjarni> well, what do you think?
13:42:40  <OwenS> Ive seen them before
13:42:44  <Bjarni> is it possible to do?
13:42:46  <OwenS> Theyre really just wallpapers :P
13:42:50  <peter1138> yes
13:43:00  <peter1138> well, transparent LCDs are perfectly possible
13:43:12  <peter1138> e.g. projectors...
13:43:35  <OwenS> Projectors are just like a normal LED with the backlight on steroids :P
13:43:50  <peter1138> ...
13:44:00  <Bjarni> the thing is, it's possible to make that and I have seen such a notebook. It was designed to remove the rear screen cover and then place the monitor on top of an overhead projector instead of using a VGA projector
13:44:11  <peter1138> Bjarni: exactly :)
13:44:31  <OwenS> Yes, but doesn't black become transparent?
13:44:39  <peter1138> yes. so/
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13:44:53  <Bjarni> I'm not really sure they got a big future though. They miss backlight if you use it as a regular notebook in conditions where you lack proper lighting
13:45:25  <SpComb> and it's probably a bit fragile
13:45:30  <Bjarni> <OwenS>	Yes, but doesn't black become transparent? <-- I got to get one then. I use black as background colour in IRC :D
13:45:51  <Bjarni> that way I can chat and look out of the window at the same time
13:45:52  <peter1138> actually
13:45:55  <Bjarni> or similar
13:46:14  <peter1138> black may be black
13:46:26  <Bjarni> white is transparent
13:46:29  <peter1138> yes
13:46:34  <Bjarni> at least that is what my logics tells me
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13:46:39  <OwenS> Nah, Black is the crystals rotated to be transparent, thus showing a black backing normally
13:46:49  <Bjarni> so I will get a black screen with transparent letters
13:46:49  <peter1138> no
13:46:53  <OwenS> Or something like that (GHow does an LCD work?)
13:47:01  <peter1138> if it was transparent, it would let the backlight show through
13:47:22  <OwenS> Hmm, white would be transparent
13:47:38  <OwenS> Transparent backgrounds ftw!
13:47:40  <OwenS> Buut
13:47:50  <OwenS> You would get every other colour translucent
13:48:09  <Bjarni> I just got an idea. Using two screens in front of each other to create 3D
13:48:50  <OwenS> How does that work?
13:49:00  <Bjarni> lol
13:49:16  <mikk36_> Bjarni, u can create 3D view with 1 screen too
13:49:20  <Bjarni> it was a joke
13:49:28  <mikk36_> but u need cameras for that
13:49:28  <Bjarni> I know
13:49:28  <OwenS> Specially because the background stuff would show through :P
13:49:37  <OwenS> "u"? Gah!
13:49:42  <mikk36_> to find ur viewing position
13:49:52  <OwenS> "ur"? Where is my axe?
13:50:09  <peter1138> i stole it
13:50:11  <Bjarni> I once saw a guy using a notebook and another guy walked passed, took the monitor and moved it back and forth and said "look, he got 3D"
13:50:19  <peter1138> to remove letter from words
13:50:26  <peter1138> because clearly it's cool, or something
13:50:51  <Bjarni> OwenS: we broke some of mikk36_'s keys to get you to kill him
13:50:55  <Bjarni> don't tell him though
13:50:59  <OwenS> Ooh
13:51:12  <Bjarni> we need him to think that you are just a random mean guy
13:51:13  <OwenS> Ill get my knife :evil:
13:51:16  <Bjarni> he is used to that
13:51:44  <Bjarni> all his friends in the mafia do stuff like that
13:51:50  * OwenS Sneaks up behind with a knife...
13:51:53  <Bjarni> at random
13:52:05  * OwenS .. Pulls out a SC20K shotgun ...
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13:52:22  * OwenS ... Fires at mikk36_'s head at point blank
13:52:34  <OwenS> Oooh errr, messy
13:53:11  <mikk36_> don't even try to scratch my head
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13:53:32  <OwenS> Dude, I just pumped a hot slug of leat at it!
13:53:51  <OwenS> You should be dead..
13:53:56  <lolman> leat?
13:54:02  <OwenS> lead
13:54:09  <lolman> you tried ho hax0r his head? :p
13:54:11  <lolman> to*
13:54:22  <OwenS> No, I shot my shotgun at it ^^
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13:54:56  <lolman> You waited too long, he dodged it :P
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13:55:31  <OwenS> I was right behind him...
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13:56:16  <Bjarni> <-- hahaha
13:56:22  <lolman> Whoever said that made it completely undodgeable? (:
14:00:01  <lolman> Anyhow, I'm off for a bit :)
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14:06:58  <MeusH> hello
14:10:58  <Sacro> hey MeusH
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14:46:50  <Darkvater> < home
14:47:10  <lolman> < back :P
14:47:12  <hylje> you mean, home is > you ? :<
14:47:21  <pv2b> i'd hope so
14:47:51  <pv2b> the home needs to be larger than you, otherwise you won't fit
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14:59:40  <lolman> Somehow I reckon I'll be up late tonight...
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15:04:25  <lolman> MeusH: wb
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15:05:32  <lolman> Netsplit!!
15:05:48  <pv2b> lol, man
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15:05:54  <Sacro> Sacro: GET OFF MY NICK :o
15:05:59  <Sacro> err...
15:06:13  <Sacro> you didnt see that
15:06:18  <lolman> Lol
15:06:22  <lolman> Ya plank :P
15:06:24  * Sacro wistles and walks off
15:06:28  <OwenS> rofl :)
15:06:45  * OwenS hits Sacro with a large trout
15:06:48  * pv2b gazes curiously at Sacro
15:06:51  * Sacro slaps OwenS's bottom and grins cheekily
15:07:02  <Sacro> im gonna stop using /slap
15:07:07  * OwenS headshots Sacro with a sniper rifle
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15:08:03  <lolman> :-D
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15:09:05  <lolman> wb you lot...unlucky @ netsplit :P
15:09:36  <Sacro> hmm, hyrda just moved me servers
15:10:21  <lolman> 4% of 150 meg done...*sighs*
15:11:30  <lolman> I think this is gonna take a while...
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15:15:30  * Sacro slaps lolman with a large smelly trout
15:15:54  * lolman grabs trout and shoves it in Sacro's mouth
15:16:06  <OwenS> Eww, nasty
15:16:13  <OwenS> Has it gone off?
15:16:23  * Sacro looks at purchasing a POS
15:16:31  <lolman> OwenS: yes, I need to wash me hands now...
15:16:37  <lolman> Oh, the fish? I dunno...
15:16:42  <OwenS> Peice of shit?
15:16:46  <Sacro> OwenS: yes, think he has...*washes trout*
15:16:50  <ArchSSM> Does anyone know if there will be a merging with the test releases and the nightly builds soon?
15:17:08  <Sacro> ArchSSM: buh?
15:17:11  <OwenS> Test releases?
15:17:34  <lolman> I think he means MiniIN, Bridges, TGP etc
15:17:40  <ArchSSM> exactly :)
15:17:45  <ArchSSM> thanks, lolman
15:17:45  <Sacro> but which nightly?
15:17:48  <Sacro> HEAD?
15:17:55  <ArchSSM> ehm... nightly builds in general
15:18:08  <ArchSSM> I have the test edt. for TGP but its very buggy
15:18:10  <OwenS> Sacro: HEAD is CVS, SVN has trunk ;)
15:18:14  <Sacro> well, none of em are due for a merge with trunk
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15:18:21  * Sacro dusts off a kitchen towel and slaps it at OwenS
15:18:29  <OwenS> I thought TGP was happening sometime soon though
15:18:30  <Tron__> Sacro: HEAD is just a symbolic name for the most recent revision of the repository
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15:18:43  * Sacro gives Tron__ a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC
15:18:44  * OwenS sticks a knife in Sacro's left eye
15:18:49  * Sacro breaks out the slapping rod and looks sternly at Sacro
15:19:00  <ArchSSM> so... If I wish to play TGP with the 'latest edt' .. is there a version later than the test version linked from the frontpage?
15:19:01  <lolman> LOL
15:19:13  <lolman> ArchSSM: not yet
15:19:14  * OwenS pokes out Sacro's other eye
15:19:24  <ArchSSM> ok... thanks for your time :)
15:19:27  * Sacro gives HewlettPackard a clout round the head with a fresh copy of HydraIRC
15:19:49  * lws1984 clouts Hewlett Packard with irssi
15:19:50  <Sacro> ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is
15:19:51  * lolman clobbers Sacro round the head with a new copy of Konversation
15:20:55  <OwenS> Bjarni, MiHaMiX, orudge, TrueLight, care to elaborate on this?
15:21:13  <Bjarni> elaborate what?
15:21:32  <OwenS> (16:19:49) Sacro:   ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is
15:21:32  * Sacro slaps Bjarni's bottom and grins cheekily
15:21:39  <lolman> ArshSSM was asking when TGP was going to be merged with trunk
15:21:46  * orudge would not know, alas
15:21:55  <Bjarni> *	OwenS pokes out Sacro's other eye <-- due to lack of stuff to elaborate, I will pick this line to explain. I presume that you want Sacro to go blind
15:22:15  <lws1984> no, we just like to piss him off!
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15:22:17  <OwenS> I quote what I said to elaborate on again: (16:21:31) OwenS:   (16:19:49) Sacro:   ArchSSM: im not sure how far off merging TGP is
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15:22:33  <Sacro> ooh, auto rejoin
15:22:38  <Bjarni> well
15:22:40  <lws1984> 'tis evil
15:22:44  * lolman slaps Bjarni some more
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15:23:11  <lolman> :-D
15:23:34  <Bjarni> OwenS: well, it's more or less ready to be merged once it's approved by the relevant people
15:23:44  <OwenS> ArchSSM: Theres your answer :)
15:23:51  <ArchSSM> thanks :)
15:23:51  * Sacro approvesit
15:23:54  <ArchSSM> I can't wait :)
15:24:21  <Sacro> $me->getShower();
15:24:21  * OwenS wonders how Sacro is reading this... TTS?
15:24:29  <Bjarni> the question is if something turns up to delay it
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15:24:41  <Bjarni> there is a reason why it's not approved to be merged yet
15:25:02  <Bjarni> mainly lack of time to look at it :p
15:25:13  <OwenS> pIRC->getServer("oftc")->getChannel("#openttd")->getPerson("sacro")->strangle(STRENGTH_PAINFUL);
15:26:06  * lolman will brb
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15:35:43  * lolman jumps up and down in excitement :-D
15:36:35  * lws1984 places a brick above lolman
15:36:53  * lolman chits head on brick but keeps jumping
15:36:57  <lolman> hits*
15:37:04  * lws1984 adds a bomb
15:37:07  * OwenS superglues nails to bottom of brick
15:37:18  * lws1984 removes the bomb
15:37:30  * lolman defuses bumb
15:37:32  <lolman> bomb*
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15:38:58  * lolman IS 15 days :-D
15:39:09  <peter1138> i'm moving in... 2 days
15:39:23  <lolman> peter1138: nice one! :)
15:39:28  <peter1138> first house :D
15:40:03  <lolman> Hehe
15:40:16  <lolman> I'll still be with parents...but...10Mb Cable! :-D
15:40:57  <lolman> I'll be free of GPRS! \o/
15:44:59  <OwenS> I'm going 16MBit ADSL soon :)
15:45:53  <lolman> OwenS: Lol
15:46:03  <lolman> I assure you, 10Mb is a HUGE step from what I have
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15:46:14  <Mucht|work> Not sure if some devs noticed yesterday:
15:46:23  <Mucht|work> I posted it quite late in here ;-)
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15:50:00  <Patrick`> you had better put it into the flyspray tracker if you want anyone to pay attention
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15:51:33  <Bjarni> also, why was I not informed?
15:51:54  <Sacro> err...hmm
15:51:54  <Bjarni> I wrote this and I know how to fix this
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15:52:17  <MeusH> lol lolman
15:52:49  <lolman> MeusH: 5KB/s to 1200KB/s...not a small gap that :)
15:53:08  <MeusH> what are you talking about?
15:53:26  <Bjarni> you use a modem?
15:53:31  <Tron_> hm, it works for me
15:53:45  <Bjarni> the clone or modem thing?
15:53:51  <Tron_> cloned trains and the costs are accounted correctly
15:54:11  <Tron_> both using the clone button of the depot and of the vehicle window
15:55:39  <Bjarni> ahh, I think I know why
15:55:59  <Bjarni> SET_EXPENSES_TYPE() is not used, so it just uses the last thing you did, in your case build the first vehicle
15:56:06  <Bjarni> I presumed that was the issue and it is
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15:56:37  <Bjarni> or...
15:56:45  <Bjarni> it should be set in the build commands...
15:57:31  <Bjarni> works here
15:58:09  <Bjarni> yeah, I removed the SET_EXPENSES_TYPE() when I made it rely on the build commands to set it. Now I remember
15:58:17  <Bjarni> it should not really fail....
15:59:19  <Bjarni> Mucht|zZz: you need to tell us more about your "bug" if we are to do anything about it, like what version are you using and is it MiniIN and so on
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16:02:49  <peter1138> it takes a special kind of person to post a software bug report on their own blog...
16:05:16  <Sacro> wtf is a pentium D
16:05:29  <peter1138> laptop variant
16:05:58  <Sacro> so why is it in all these desktops
16:06:09  <Sacro> but then my laptop has a desktop p3
16:06:11  <Sacro> *p4
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16:09:33  <mikk36_> Pentium D is dual-core P4
16:09:40  <mikk36_> nothing else
16:10:16  <mikk36_> Intel Core is the new mobile cpu
16:10:26  <mikk36_> which now has a new version called Core2
16:11:09  <mikk36_> last mobile cpu before Core was Pentium M
16:12:38  <peter1138> hmm
16:17:23  <stillunknown> but Core2Duo is also a desktop platform, to replace the netburst cpu's
16:17:49  <mikk36_> yes
16:17:55  <mikk36_> Core2 is for all :)
16:18:04  <mikk36_> all in all good architecture
16:18:06  <mikk36_>
16:18:14  <mikk36_> just try to put one of these into a laptop :P
16:19:31  <stillunknown> i wouldn't put a E6*00 into a notebook eitheer
16:19:35  <stillunknown> *either
16:19:39  <izhirahider> I've started to notice this a few days ago, when I move the mouse cursor really fast in OpenTTD, the mouse cursor seems to lag/jump. Any tips I can follow to make it faster? (Using revision 5928)
16:19:39  <mikk36_> why not ? :)
16:20:10  <stillunknown> the T series will be more suited to notebooks
16:20:17  <mikk36_> yeah
16:20:22  <mikk36_> but it's still c2 :)
16:20:43  <mikk36_> oh
16:20:47  <mikk36_> u mean Core1 ?
16:20:48  <mikk36_> hehe
16:20:56  <stillunknown> core2 will have a T series as well
16:21:08  <mikk36_> yeah
16:22:01  <stillunknown> i'm curious what happens when amd releases their k8l core
16:22:14  <mikk36_> :)
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16:24:56  <MeusH> huh?
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16:30:10  <Mucht|zZz> Bjarni: we use r5794 with a set of additional grfs
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16:31:34  <glx> Mucht: it's an old one :)
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16:38:31  <Bjarni> yeah, it's an old one, but it should have worked anyway
16:38:44  <Bjarni> go ahead and try again to see what happens
16:38:59  <Bjarni> also try to update. We fix stuff all the time
16:39:31  <Bjarni> bug reports aren't really useful if it is an old version. We might have fixed it in the meantime ;)
16:39:34  <Sacro_> damnnit, weebls stuff now uses flash 8 :(
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16:59:30  <Wolf01> here
17:00:28  <mikk36_> there ?
17:00:54  <Bjarni> what's there in Italy?
17:01:30  <guru3> everywhere?
17:02:12  <Wolf01> is mostly cloud
17:04:26  <Bjarni> Italy is a cloud?
17:04:41  <Bjarni> who vaporised it?
17:04:41  <Bjarni> Bush?
17:05:08  <Wolf01> i'm on the clouds
17:05:17  <Bjarni> you died?
17:05:18  <Wolf01> over the italy
17:06:28  <Wolf01> no, i'm trying to wake up after an intense day of work
17:06:46  <Wolf01> and my brain is away from the body
17:07:47  <lolman> brb
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17:08:30  <Wolf01> ok, now i can link together basicly ideas
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17:08:51  <Wolf01> *s/basicly/basic
17:16:24  <Bjarni> oh
17:16:34  <Bjarni> so walking to the kitchen is linked to eating?
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17:17:05  <Wolf01> yes, something like it
17:19:09  <ln-> what does "??? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ????- ???? ?? ????? ???," mean?
17:20:20  <ln-> probably something important, it is from a spam email.
17:21:28  <Eddi|zuHause> looks kinda hebrew or something
17:21:29  <Sacro> ln-: probably some arabic girl/guy wants to sleep with you
17:21:37  <Eddi|zuHause> no, not arabic
17:22:10  <MeusH> is GetStationByTile(tile)->index or just GetStationByTile(tile) a StationID?
17:22:29  <ln-> Sacro: it's hebrew, don't you see?
17:22:55  <Bjarni> I see garbage
17:23:08  <hylje> its utf8 foo
17:23:08  <Bjarni> some people might see that as letters, but all I see is garbage
17:23:19  <Bjarni> I know that
17:23:21  <MeusH> I see garbage letters
17:23:25  <Wolf01> now i see letters :)
17:23:27  <MeusH> they have nothing to OpenTTD
17:23:28  <Bjarni> still looks like garbage to me :p
17:23:39  <Bjarni> is that even real letters?
17:23:56  <Belugas> i definitivelt see hebrew characters
17:23:57  <MeusH> some say these are real
17:24:03  <MeusH> but imo it's plastic fake :P
17:24:20  <Bjarni> some say Father Christmas is real
17:24:33  <MeusH> it's my dad, don't you know?
17:24:35  <Bjarni> but he is just your father dressing up
17:24:38  <MeusH> yeah
17:24:42  <MeusH> clever boy
17:24:48  <Bjarni> just like the devil. He is not real either
17:25:00  <MeusH> don't you have mother in law? :P
17:25:16  <Bjarni> still looking for one
17:25:35  <MeusH> at least you're not alone...
17:25:36  <Bjarni> if you know what I mean
17:25:38  <MeusH> I'm wondering
17:25:47  <stillunknown> i was wondering if showing the amount of energy is a trunk feature or not? (using the miniin)
17:25:57  <stillunknown> (coal power station)
17:26:13  <Bjarni> <MeusH>	I'm wondering <-- bragging again, eh :P
17:26:13  <MeusH> most girls I know have boyfriends. But a guy with a girlfriend is rarity
17:26:21  <hylje> more boys than girls
17:26:27  <MeusH> either I know too much girls or girls lie :)
17:26:36  <Bjarni> omg. We turned into China o_O
17:26:54  <MeusH> I turned into Alaska :F
17:27:12  <MeusH> allright
17:27:16  <MeusH> ahem
17:27:16  <Bjarni> cold on the outside and icy on the inside?
17:27:18  <MeusH> ahem
17:27:19  <MeusH> is GetStationByTile(tile)->index or just GetStationByTile(tile) a StationID?
17:27:26  <Bjarni> no wonder you lack female company
17:27:29  <MeusH> Bjarni: vice-versa
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17:27:55  <MeusH> Bjarni, you can drive someone mad
17:28:05  <MeusH> You make me sad sometimes
17:28:10  <Bjarni> oh
17:28:14  <hylje> why you said that
17:28:21  <hylje> bjarni will just attempt to be even more lame
17:28:24  <Bjarni> that's not intentional
17:28:31  <Bjarni> just a bonus :p
17:28:33  <MeusH> anyway, is GetStationByTile(tile)->index a StationID, or just GetStationByTile(tile) is a StationID?
17:28:53  <Bjarni> actually why did that make you sad?
17:29:30  <MeusH> because I don't have a girlfriend and you insist it is because I'm "cold and icy", but I just joked about the Alaska
17:29:59  <Bjarni> ...
17:30:14  <Bjarni> I didn't mean it like that
17:30:18  <Bjarni> and how should I know how you are in real life?
17:30:27  <MeusH> I hoped so
17:30:34  <MeusH> well you just don't know it
17:30:35  <lolman> Ello :)
17:30:40  <MeusH> hey lolman
17:30:50  <MeusH> but no worries Bjarni I'm fine :)
17:30:57  <lolman> Ello MeusH :)
17:30:58  <Bjarni> good
17:31:03  <Bjarni> and now lolman showed up
17:31:08  <MeusH> anyway, is GetStationByTile(tile)->index a StationID, or just GetStationByTile(tile) is a StationID?
17:31:12  <Bjarni> at least he will laugh when being used in a joke
17:31:21  <Bjarni> instead of getting sad
17:31:34  <lolman> Bjarni: I always laugh ;-)
17:31:37  <Bjarni> see
17:32:18  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	lolman: now you die
17:32:18  <Bjarni> <lolman>	lol
17:32:35  <Tron> MeusH: the thing which isn't a pointer of course
17:32:40  <lolman> You wish you could kill me ;-)
17:32:52  <Bjarni> no I don't
17:32:55  <MeusH> Tron, so ->index is a StationID?
17:32:57  <MeusH> thanks
17:33:14  <lolman> Bjarni: well it isn't particularly hard to :P
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17:33:33  <Bjarni> you are dying?
17:33:41  <Tron> MeusH: yes, and you're doing it complicated
17:33:42  <MeusH> it would be lame if I said "that's exacly what I thought", but it's like real
17:33:46  <lolman> Nooo lol
17:33:51  <Bjarni> remember to open the windows once in a while to get air
17:33:55  <Tron> MeusH: GetStationIndex()
17:34:14  <lolman> Bjarni: it's always open when it's not raining or cold
17:34:38  <stillunknown> do "trunk" powerplants also show production?
17:34:57  <MeusH> thank you Tron :]
17:35:38  <MeusH> but I see there is an assert
17:35:45  <MeusH> what if the tile isn't a station?
17:36:07  <Tron> it asserts, of course
17:36:14  <Bjarni> oh that reminds me. During the SARS thing, a Chinese family sealed them off from the outside world to save themselves. They got food for months and sealed off the door and windows airtight to prevent SARS from getting in. After a while the neighbours had to break in to get them out into the fresh air or they would have died
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17:36:21  <Tron> you can't get the station index of a tile, which isn't a station
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17:36:25  <Maedhros> is anyone else suspicious of ?
17:36:28  <Bjarni> they sealed themselves a bit to well from the outside world
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17:36:58  <MeusH> allright, I'll change the code and check it soon
17:36:59  <MeusH> thanks again
17:37:21  <lolman> Bjarni: ouch
17:37:44  <lolman> Hmm I need to reconnect...brb
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17:38:41  <Bjarni> Maedhros: what should be wrong with it? virus? spyware?
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17:38:57  <Bjarni> anyway it's easier just to edit the cfg file by hand
17:39:01  <Bjarni> it's fairly simple
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17:39:43  <Maedhros> Bjarni: i don't use windows, so i'm not expecting it to work for me :-P
17:39:54  <Maedhros> Bjarni: i just can't see anything related to openttd on that page
17:40:32  <Bjarni> heh
17:40:38  <Bjarni> didn't really look for that
17:41:20  <Bjarni> and I don't really care either. If people starts to download 3rd party apps, then it's their issue, not mine if it breaks anything
17:44:32  <stillunknown> is there a way to connect depots, so they work like stationplatforms (chosen based on occupancy)?
17:45:37  <Sacro_> "Change the .pdf to .exe and voila! got the installer" <--- /me worries
17:45:56  <lolman> Sacro?
17:46:07  <Bjarni> stillunknown: no, but I wondered about making such a feature
17:46:11  <Bjarni> it's not trivial though
17:46:24  <lolman> That looks very dodgy...
17:47:15  * Sacro_ considers writing a grf manager in gtk
17:47:35  <Sacro_> ottdalter!
17:47:57  <lws1984> *snicker*
17:47:58  <lolman> Sacro_: Nah just do one to change the newgrf settings :P
17:48:13  <lolman> (Oh and to help newbs copy the data files) ;-0
17:48:15  <lolman> ;-)*
17:48:18  <Sacro_> well i know windows has a GTK port, does OSX?
17:48:45  <MeusH> Bjarni: The first part would be making a station and setting IsDepot = true
17:49:31  <hylje> Sacro_: OSX has X11, thus GTK
17:49:45  <Bjarni> Sacro_: why would you want that?
17:50:02  <Sacro_> Bjarni: what? OSX?
17:50:19  <Bjarni> GTK on OSX
17:50:41  <Sacro_> for a shiny newgrf/cfg manager
17:50:43  <Bjarni> it should be possible, but it's not the fastest or nicest solution
17:50:48  <Bjarni> ahh
17:51:13  <lws1984> ooh.. aqua
17:51:23  <Bjarni> the idea is to make it in the main menu eventually
17:51:33  <Bjarni> then no porting is needed since the game is already ported
17:52:01  <Sacro_> f me :| thought it was warm today
17:52:16  <Bjarni> so why do you show up with another plan, that will undermine our long term plan?
17:52:38  <Bjarni> are you trying to ruin our project or something?
17:53:15  <lolman> Bjarni: I thought that was Sacro_'s job?
17:53:20  <Sacro_> :o
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17:54:46  <Bjarni> hehe, that register story reminds me of some EMUs we got here. They got prerecorded messages (next station and so on) and it's funny when they hit the wrong one
17:55:09  <Bjarni> like in the middle of the summer "all rail traffic is slightly delayed due to snow on the tracks"
17:55:17  <OwenS> O.o
17:56:04  <Bjarni> or "the train is stopped because of a missing signal"... missing signal... did somebody steal it?
17:56:12  <lws1984> *snicker*
17:56:24  <Bjarni> it actually means missing signal permission to continue (usually green)
17:56:37  <Bjarni> but most people don't know that
17:57:22  <Bjarni> I mean people usually don't know that it's a valid sentence ;)
17:57:40  * Sacro considers nipping down to the station, and swapping a green filter for a red one...
17:58:06  <Bjarni> that would be considered terrorism and you will be jailed for years
17:58:14  <Sacro> terrorism?
17:58:28  <OwenS> Since it would most likely result in deaths
17:58:41  <OwenS> Unless you did it on a TGV line, they have no signals :P
17:59:00  <Bjarni> external signals are useless @ 400 km/h
17:59:50  <Bjarni> usually a green light will still brake the train because the electronics will still detect it as red
18:00:13  <hylje> so.. rig the electronics
18:00:23  <Bjarni> that's kind of hard to do
18:00:40  <Bjarni> you see, they are on the train
18:00:50  <lolman> Or you just leave the line with no signals and hope no trains break down
18:00:55  <MeusH> please, someone tell me more about implicit declaration of function
18:01:07  <Bjarni> and they will brake if they don't give the ok signal, so braking/removing it will stop the train as well
18:01:37  <Bjarni> MeusH: you use a function without declaring it (usually in a header file)
18:01:51  <MeusH> thanks
18:01:59  <Bjarni> and then it's a warning when it happens and a linker error if it fails to find the function at linking time
18:02:13  <OwenS> I find GCC allowing that infuriating...
18:02:24  <Bjarni> I don't
18:02:33  <OwenS> Why?
18:03:14  <Bjarni> once in a while I do a quick hack to see if something will work and then I don't care to include/modify all the header files, so I get shitloads of warnings, but I can see if the result acts in the right direction and if it works before making it nice
18:03:25  <Bjarni> and it gives you a warning after all
18:03:46  <hylje> :o
18:04:03  <OwenS> Yes, but on occasion ive forgot to correct said warnings and ended up with it failing under more strict ccs...
18:05:03  <Bjarni> then you just forget to check for warnings, which is generally a bad thing :p
18:05:15  <glx> useful to add temp debug stuff
18:05:35  <Bjarni> like declarations after statements warnings... it breaks compilation on windows, but not gcc
18:05:37  <Bjarni> bbl
18:05:47  <OwenS> Bjarni: When it's compiling faster than the terminal scrolls it's not easy to notice
18:06:09  <Bjarni> then disable verbose :p
18:06:39  <OwenS> No, just file listings
18:09:05  <Sacro> now THATS cooling
18:11:34  * lolman decides to install DamnSmallLinux on his Pentium 2
18:11:52  <Sacro> lolman: Arch FTW!
18:12:15  <lolman> Sacro: I'm a total n00b ;-)
18:12:22  <Sacro> lolman: are
18:12:36  <lolman> Plus a copy of DamnSmall came on the DVD you sent :P
18:12:40  <Sacro> did it?
18:12:47  <lolman> Yeah, in ISO form
18:13:39  <Sacro> ooh so it does
18:13:41  <Sacro> and RIP too
18:13:46  <lolman> Yeah
18:14:20  <lolman> Only had one blank CD though, so I burned DSL
18:14:34  <MeusH> Bjarni: seems all required header files are included
18:14:40  <MeusH> does order matter?
18:16:37  <Sacro> MeusH: shouldnt do, as long as your using #ifndef foo_h, #define foo_h, foo_h stuff, #endif foo_h
18:16:59  <OwenS> #endif foo_h? WTF
18:17:39  <MeusH> well there is a typical header of a station_gui.c
18:17:40  <MeusH> ...
18:17:41  <MeusH> #include "gui.h"
18:17:41  <MeusH> #include "station_map.h"
18:17:41  <MeusH> #include "station.h"
18:17:42  <MeusH> ...
18:17:59  <MeusH> station_gui.c:585: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetStationIndex'
18:18:57  <Sacro> hmm, what uses a 25 pin d-sub
18:19:07  <lolman> I appear to have lost my screwdriver lol
18:19:14  <Sacro> OwenS: should be #endif //foo_h
18:19:29  <OwenS> IMO it should just be #endif
18:19:30  <MeusH> anyway, the problem is pretty strange for me and I haven't seen these recently
18:19:30  <lolman> Sacro: parallel ports?
18:19:47  <MeusH> there is an error, but it is after linking
18:19:49  <MeusH> ===> Linking openttd.exe
18:19:49  <MeusH> Warning: .drectve `/DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" /DEFAULTLIB:"uuid.lib" ' unrecognized
18:19:49  <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x198d): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex'
18:19:49  <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1b9b): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex'
18:19:49  <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1bca): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex'
18:19:51  <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x1db4): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex'
18:19:52  <MeusH> economy.o:economy.c:(.text+0x21b4): undefined reference to `GetStationIndex'
18:19:54  <MeusH> roadveh_gui.o:roadveh_gui.c:(.text+0x97e): more undefined references to `GetStationIndex' follow
18:19:55  <GoneWacko> D:
18:19:56  <MeusH> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
18:19:58  <MeusH> make: *** [openttd.exe] Error 1
18:20:07  * Sacro counts...
18:20:11  <GoneWacko> learn to use a pastebin ._.
18:20:14  <Sacro> lolman: ooh yes...dont need one of those
18:20:24  <lolman> Sacro: lol
18:20:55  * lolman has found his screwdriver
18:21:11  * lolman gets to work fitting CD drive to P2
18:21:26  <MeusH> well I fixed it
18:21:27  <MeusH> FIXED
18:21:34  <MeusH> sorry
18:21:57  <MeusH> it was a matter of a semicolon and one #include
18:22:12  <Sacro> MeusH: tsk tsk tsk
18:22:54  <Sacro> i wnat a mac pro :(
18:23:17  <hylje> who doesn't?
18:23:24  <Sacro> billus gatus?
18:23:26  <hylje> its the sweetest workstation right now
18:23:40  <Sacro> that insane bearded gpl buggerer
18:23:42  <hylje> im fairly sure gates doesnt have anything against apple _hardware_
18:24:04  <hylje> linus torvalds did get some PowerMacs donated to him by apple
18:24:21  <Sacro> noo, not him, he's cool
18:24:23  <OwenS> I thought he bought them
18:24:33  <OwenS> Linus runs Linux on a Mac :P
18:25:36  <lolman> Sacro: that Stallman guy?
18:25:39  <lolman> :P
18:25:44  <Sacro> lolman: yes! him!
18:26:04  <lolman> No comment lol
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18:29:18  <Sacro> "Microsoft Insists IE7 is Standards Compliant"
18:30:01  <lolman> Not a chance of that lol
18:30:21  <hylje> /.? heh
18:30:25  <Sacro> depends on whose standards you go by
18:30:28  <Sacro> hylje: spot on
18:30:44  <Sacro> it wont be w3 standards compliant
18:31:59  <hylje> o rly?
18:32:15  <Sacro> ya rly
18:32:26  <hylje> no wai
18:33:03  <StormDragoness> IE7 is about as compliant as FF.
18:33:10  <Sacro> hehe - "Satan insists AntiChrist 50 - 90% like Jesus.... except better."
18:33:17  <Sacro> StormDragoness: no its not
18:33:19  <MeusH> IE7 is compliant with Windows Media Player, Microsoft Outlock and ActiveX standards  :P
18:33:25  <StormDragoness> Yes it is.
18:33:28  <Sacro> not by a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong shot
18:33:41  <StormDragoness> It is not perfect still, but neither is firefox.
18:34:03  <lolman> StormDragoness: have you used a recent build of IE7?
18:34:08  <StormDragoness> Yes
18:34:18  <lolman> Which build would that have been?
18:34:34  <Sacro> StormDragoness: its nowhere near perfect
18:34:58  <StormDragoness> I have written strict html for it, and I need to make no patches to correct annoying IE bugs so far.
18:35:37  <Sacro> for HTML 4.01 core attributes ie 6/7 is at 75% with ff and o9 @ 88%
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18:36:12  <Sacro> for i18n, ie6/7 o9 are at 75% with ff fully compliant
18:36:53  <Sacro> ie doesnt support XHTML 1.0
18:37:12  <Sacro> and coincidently doesnt support 1.1
18:37:28  <Sacro> and all goes quiet
18:37:35  <Bjarni> <lolman>	I appear to have lost my screwdriver lol <-- typical
18:37:44  <Bjarni> you lose and you say lol
18:37:47  <StormDragoness> You talk too much, and clearly have not tested it out for yourself extensively.
18:37:51  <lolman> Bjarni: yep! hehe
18:37:59  <Bjarni> also you managed to find it fairly quick
18:38:16  <Bjarni> I  think I once spend at least 3 weeks finding a lost screwdriver
18:38:18  <Sacro> heh, i love the fact the ie6/7 and o9 dont fail when you send a non integer as an rgb value
18:38:27  <Bjarni> maybe it was as much as 2 months
18:38:33  <Sacro> StormDragoness: oh i have, ive just had to rewrite a whole sites CSS so it worked in ie6
18:38:54  <StormDragoness> Indeed, IE6 is a bag of fun.
18:39:05  <Sacro> s/fun/sh*te
18:39:10  <StormDragoness> heh
18:39:48  <Sacro> its like of position{} support, and box model really cheese me off
18:40:17  <StormDragoness> I trust you use the ms specific <!-- [if .. ?
18:40:20  <Sacro> s/like/lack
18:40:26  <Sacro> i dont see why i should...
18:40:45  <Sacro> i write standards complient code, i expect my browser to have a standards complient parser/renderer
18:41:17  <StormDragoness> And you said you had to rewrite a site to comply with ie6.. a bit of a hypocrite, are'nt yah? :P
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18:42:08  <Sacro> yes, im working for someone, if it was my own site, i couldnt care less
18:42:23  <Sacro> is the page i was digging around for
18:43:34  <Sacro> i see nowhere where IE6  or IE7 is better than firefox
18:44:02  <MeusH> IE7 has tabs, don't you know? :F
18:44:22  <Sacro> MeusH: so does my local bar
18:44:45  <StormDragoness> I never said they were, when IE7 comes out I'll still be sticking with FF, but like most people you slander a product just because its earlier version is a piece of trash, without actually having tried it out yourself.
18:44:59  <Sacro> i cant try out IE7
18:45:15  <StormDragoness> Why not? Hiding out on Linux?
18:45:21  <Sacro> not hiding per se
18:45:58  <Sacro> i could try it on my mums if i really wanted
18:46:19  * StormDragoness chuckles.
18:47:00  <lolman> Please do not call using linux "hiding", it is an individual's choice what OS they use, and as such what browser they use
18:47:09  <StormDragoness> You dont have a virtual machine running XP for these little experiences then.
18:47:18  <lolman> I dual boot
18:47:26  <StormDragoness> I know.
18:47:32  <Sacro> why should i?
18:47:41  <Sacro> ies4linux gives me ie 5, 5.5 and 6
18:47:47  <lolman> But I'll soon be squashing my copy of XP, thanks to the developments WINE has had in the past few months
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18:49:05  <lolman> I can run all the games I played in Windows in Linux, so I no longer have a use for Windows
18:49:15  <StormDragoness> Fair enough.
18:49:17  <stillunknown> someone could say that a windows user is hiding :-)
18:49:24  <Wolf01> bah, clicking on the edit button of the image and fax viewer crashes explorer, if i rightclick on the image (still in the viewer) it works
18:49:40  <hylje> i havent used windows for 2 months or so
18:49:53  <StormDragoness> Whichever environment you find yourself comfortable in, but dont speak your mind about things you have only heard, and never tried.
18:49:56  <hylje> except for a week when we had a lappy with windows on a trip
18:50:22  <stillunknown> it's just a choice of OS, just like everyone chooses their software
18:50:28  <lolman> StormDragoness: what do you think I've never tried?
18:50:40  <Sacro> i personally dont see why i should fork out mininmum £60 for a base system that only comes with a kernel, a GUI and no serious software
18:51:25  <Sacro> i have a LAMP setup, firefox, OOo, and Eclipse, as well as a few versions of ie, and opera 9
18:51:32  <lolman> Sacro: not to mention no compiler :P
18:51:43  <Sacro> lolman: i know!
18:52:00  <Sacro> anywhoo, i have to go cook
18:52:02  <Sacro> bbs
18:52:07  <lolman> Okies, cya
18:52:14  <lolman> I'm gonna set DSL up
18:52:38  <Wolf01> sacro cooking? call firefighters!
18:52:41  <MeusH> cya lolman
18:52:50  <MeusH> bon apetit Sacro
18:52:51  <hylje> lololman
18:53:00  <lolman> MeusH: I'll still be here :P
18:53:12  <lolman> Different box :)
18:54:09  <Sacro> MeusH: get lost!
18:54:16  <Sacro> nope, sorry MeusH
18:54:19  <Sacro> Wolf01: GET LOST!
18:54:28  <Sacro> lolman: if you see smoke from the south, call 999
18:54:41  <MeusH> quoting QDB
18:54:43  <MeusH> Sacro, you suck
18:54:44  <MeusH> er, hi
18:54:48  <MeusH> a common typo :p
18:54:48  <MeusH> eh?
18:54:53  <lolman> Sacro: okies!
18:54:57  <MeusH> okay Sacro, I'm going lost
18:54:58  <MeusH> bye
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18:59:37  <Wolf01> !seen Wolf01
18:59:38  <DorpsGek> Wolf01, do you have a split personality? *eg*
18:59:49  <Wolf01> i got lost!
19:00:24  <OwenS> rofl
19:00:27  <OwenS> !seen Wolf01
19:00:27  <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
19:00:34  <OwenS> !seen Wolf01
19:00:34  <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
19:00:39  <OwenS> Damn one message bot
19:00:43  <OwenS> !seen OwenS
19:00:44  <DorpsGek> OwenS, do you have a split personality? *eg*
19:00:44  <lolman> !seen OwenS
19:00:46  <DorpsGek> lolman, if you can't see OwenS here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^
19:00:56  <lolman> There you go :P
19:00:57  <OwenS> O,o
19:01:07  <Wolf01> Wolf01, see what you started
19:01:13  <OwenS> Orudge will hate us :P
19:01:29  <Wolf01> me? you!
19:01:34  <OwenS> !seen lolman
19:01:36  <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
19:01:42  <OwenS> >.<
19:01:49  <lolman> !seen orudge
19:01:50  <lolman> :P
19:01:50  <DorpsGek> lolman, if you can't see orudge here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^
19:02:52  * lolman had best shut up :P
19:03:04  <OwenS> !seen DorpsGek
19:03:04  <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
19:03:10  <OwenS> :P
19:03:16  <OwenS> !help
19:03:17  <OwenS> :(
19:03:22  <OwenS> I want a command list
19:03:33  <Wolf01> !list
19:03:43  <Wolf01> no, that is for warez chans
19:03:47  <lolman> !commands
19:03:47  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
19:03:48  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
19:03:48  <roboboy> * commands start with a !: (robobot) spam, wut, dance, channel, huggle, moo, beer, coke, crisps, girlfriend, nowplaying, present, chanlist, time, date, day, peak. Please dont use the spammy commands in #tycoon and please dont use !spam in #openttd.
19:04:15  <lolman> !dance
19:04:16  * roboboy does the robobot dance
19:04:19  <Wolf01> !girlfriend
19:04:19  <lolman> :-)
19:04:19  <roboboy> You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend??
19:04:25  <Wolf01> -.-
19:04:27  <OwenS> Wolf01: You go in them? 0.o
19:04:31  <glx> !beer
19:04:32  * roboboy gives glx a beer
19:04:36  <OwenS> !date
19:04:42  <lolman> !coke
19:04:42  <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then lolman.
19:04:51  <OwenS> !moo
19:04:52  <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS
19:04:53  <lolman> Oi I'm only 17! damn bot
19:05:14  <OwenS> !present
19:05:15  * roboboy gives OwenS James Dean
19:05:19  <OwenS> O.o
19:05:22  <OwenS> Who TF is that?
19:05:51  <lolman> A dead actor
19:05:57  <OwenS> O.o
19:06:01  <Wolf01> and he can't figure why the track layout doesn't work? is simple, he used JPG!!!
19:06:14  <OwenS> rofl
19:06:35  <lolman> Has he never heard of Ctrl-S?
19:06:53  <OwenS> Seccondly, I love that layout's inteligence ^^
19:06:57  <OwenS> (Or lackof as the case may be
19:07:00  <OwenS> Whats the topic?
19:07:12  <Wolf01>
19:08:02  <OwenS> And OMG WTF 2DIR SIGNALS!!!
19:08:27  <OwenS> </overexuberance isthattheword="?">
19:09:28  <Wolf01> [21:07:00] <OwenS> Seccondly, I love that layout's inteligence ^^ <- i crashed all trains the first time, and i marked TT as a stupid game, but the day after i replayed it with one train per track like a motherboard data bus and now i can make also loadbalancers :O
19:10:26  <OwenS> lol
19:10:32  <OwenS> Motherboard data bus? O.o
19:10:42  <OwenS> Motherboards don't have A databus, they have many
19:11:40  <OwenS> FSB/Hypertransport, LSB, PCI, DDR, IDE ATA-133, SATA, PCI-X, PCI-Express, etc
19:11:58  <Wolf01> one of many, i can't build a motherboard in a ottd map
19:12:09  <Bjarni> Wolf01: do you make your track layout like a PCI or SATA bus?
19:12:28  <Bjarni> <Wolf01>	one of many, i can't build a motherboard in a ottd map <-- you can.... if you use big enough maps ;)
19:12:36  <Guest56> hmmm mb track layout
19:13:06  <lolman> Bjarni: you'd need a HUGE map
19:13:17  <lolman> And massive stations too...
19:13:28  <Sacro>  /me pops back for a few minutes
19:13:34  <Bjarni> that depends
19:13:54  <lolman> Sacro: I can see smoke...
19:14:31  <lolman> Bjarni: well for a realistic layout the slots would be represented by stations
19:14:45  <Sacro> !spam
19:14:45  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
19:14:49  <Sacro> *runs*
19:15:05  <Sacro> lolman: errm...let me go attend to the kitchen...
19:15:54  <Bjarni> nobody said it have to be a modern motherboard
19:16:08  <OwenS> !spam
19:16:08  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
19:16:16  <OwenS> Hehe, how about an MCU's internals?
19:16:18  <Bjarni> I imagine a 8 bit CPU could do with a less complex bus
19:16:22  <OwenS> That would require NAND heavily ^^
19:16:30  <Sacro> heh, an ALU
19:16:33  <OwenS> Hehe
19:16:38  <lolman> Bjarni: ISA slots are even bigger ;-)
19:16:51  <OwenS> Of course you would need NAND relays for reasons of the ammount of signals...
19:17:04  <OwenS> ISA uses less pins IIRC
19:17:22  <lolman> OwenS: yes, but theyre physically bigger
19:17:26  <OwenS> True
19:17:41  <Bjarni> what would a motherboard for a C64 need? ;)
19:17:50  <lolman> Dunno lol
19:17:51  <Bjarni> not much
19:18:12  <Wolf01> if nand gates patch worked i would have made a 4 bit counter
19:18:19  <OwenS> Whats wrong with it?
19:18:27  <Wolf01> the limit?
19:18:36  <OwenS> Increase it then?
19:18:58  <Wolf01> don't work too
19:19:21  <OwenS> Im strangely lost at that
19:19:36  <Sacro> arrrrrrrrrghh
19:19:37  <OwenS> You must have a loop somewhere with an odd number of NANDs in it
19:19:41  * Sacro runs
19:20:17  <lolman> Sacro: burning something?
19:21:35  <Bjarni> yeah
19:21:38  <Bjarni> his food
19:21:46  <lolman>
19:21:47  <OwenS> I must wonder why so many people play with realistic accelerations turned off :(
19:22:05  <lolman> OwenS: I dunno, makes it better
19:22:11  <hylje> because its not default setting
19:22:15  <Bjarni> it's not ideal yet
19:22:15  <Wolf01> i turned it on
19:22:23  <OwenS> It should be except when loading legacy games
19:22:33  <lolman> I love RA-T in MiniIN
19:22:34  <Bjarni> it's not good enough. On the other hand, turning it off is not good enough either ;)
19:22:45  <OwenS> It's better however
19:24:25  <hylje> i vote for realistic acceleration and speed limit remover by default
19:24:42  <hylje> so you could, say, have some benefit from long straight lines
19:25:04  <Bjarni> not the speed limit remover
19:25:12  <Bjarni> did it even get into the trunk?
19:25:17  <Bjarni> (I hope not)
19:25:19  <hylje> not that i know of
19:25:21  <Wolf01> i vote for realism instead
19:25:38  <hylje> but with realistic acceleration i believe artificial limits are less useful
19:25:47  <lolman> I vote for a physics engine :P
19:25:53  <Bjarni> hylje: do you know what happens if a steam locomotive gets into too high speed?
19:25:55  <OwenS> Havok! :P
19:26:00  <OwenS> Bang? :P
19:26:16  <lolman> Bjarni: it gets called Mallard ;-)
19:26:28  <hylje> eh. the drivers' brains explode
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19:26:40  <StormDragoness> Realism? come on.. this game is supposed to be simple and fun, not quite as simple as Locomotion, but still, simple.
19:26:51  <Bjarni> it can blow the pistons though the ends of the cylinders
19:26:56  <OwenS> Malard broke the world steam speed reccord because it was on a slope :P :)
19:26:56  <Bjarni> you don't want that to happen ;)
19:27:05  <lolman> OwenS: :P
19:27:10  <hylje> realism as long as it doesnt compromise playability
19:27:33  <Bjarni> the Mallard had to get repairs afterwards. The bearings could not handle the speed
19:27:39  <OwenS> True
19:27:39  <Wolf01> playability is not have 3.04GHz mainlines
19:28:06  <hylje> Bjarni: k, some trains could use the limit for the sake of realism then
19:28:08  <Wolf01> playability is make what you want easily
19:28:21  <lolman> brb
19:28:22  <OwenS> hylje: The speed limits should be the roof
19:28:30  <OwenS> It's unrealistic them not being it
19:28:39  <OwenS> Hmm, I wonder if, with an appropriate C compiler, it would be possible to port OpenTTD to the Propeller
19:28:43  <hylje> :D
19:28:59  <Bjarni> the Propeller running software?
19:29:06  <OwenS> Propeller chip, from Parallax
19:29:13  <OwenS> 8 x 80mHz cores
19:29:26  <Bjarni> ahh
19:29:27  <hylje> so ottd needs to get multithreaded
19:29:30  <hylje> to use that
19:29:32  <OwenS> It would
19:29:35  <OwenS> 8 threads...
19:29:40  <OwenS> Why is it single threaded anyway?
19:29:43  <Bjarni> possible, specially if we make it multithreaded
19:29:59  <OwenS> And someone makes a C compiler :P
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19:30:07  <Bjarni> because ludde coded it as single threaded
19:30:09  <Bjarni> that's why
19:30:11  <OwenS> Hmm, but I doubt it could fit in 32kb ram
19:30:20  <OwenS> Probably because he was just re-ing TTD...
19:30:24  <Bjarni> that could be a problem
19:30:41  <OwenS> Would probably have to code some special routines which worked with external ram
19:31:06  <hylje> yep graphics for instance
19:31:16  <OwenS> Propeller has a TV graphics library
19:31:24  <OwenS> Although it uses 2 cores...
19:31:25  <Bjarni> to make it threaded, you would have to find places where it's possible to run stuff in parallel
19:31:37  <hylje> train logic?
19:31:40  <OwenS> It's difficult multithreading a single threaded thing
19:31:48  <Bjarni> yeah
19:31:49  <hylje> physics?
19:32:59  <OwenS> What physics?
19:33:03  <hylje> havok
19:33:13  <OwenS> Havok requires a 3D engine
19:33:14  <OwenS> !!!
19:33:18  <hylje> oh noes
19:33:27  <OwenS> AND is closed source
19:33:32  <OwenS> AND costs about ,000 per developer
19:33:36  <hylje> :(
19:33:47  <OwenS> OpenTTD doesn't need a physics engine
19:33:56  <OwenS> Physics calculations in 2D are relatively simple
19:34:06  <hylje> it would be worth a laugh to ask for realistic ragdoll stuff for a fucking train managing simulator
19:34:25  <Wolf01> use ODE
19:34:30  <Bjarni> now if YAPF gets coded into a threaded system, so several vehicles can be moved in parallel, then we could benefit from multiple cores
19:34:59  <Bjarni> the question is how to manage never to make a tile reserved for more than one train at any one time
19:35:10  <Wolf01>
19:35:12  <OwenS> Mutexes?
19:36:15  <Wolf01> [21:34:13] <hylje> it would be worth a laugh to ask for realistic ragdoll stuff for a fucking train managing simulator <- ragdoll trains: drive backwards, better crashes, derailments
19:36:16  <OwenS> Lock, if(!tile.reserved) tile.reserved = true; Unlock
19:36:54  <hylje> yeh
19:36:57  <Bjarni> something like that
19:37:09  <Bjarni> the question is how to get it to work bug free
19:37:10  <Tron> <OwenS> Why is it single threaded anyway? <--- one big central data structure where most stuff depends on. any further questions?
19:37:15  <Bjarni> on multiple cores
19:37:24  <hylje> by.. bugtesting?
19:37:39  <Tron> <OwenS> Mutexes? <--- locking a mutex, every time you fiddle with a tile, are you joking?
19:37:39  <Bjarni> ok, say we write it and then what
19:37:46  <Bjarni> 3164 bugs shows up
19:37:53  <OwenS> True
19:37:58  <OwenS> Hmm, one mutexfor each tile wouldn't be too bad however
19:38:05  <OwenS> Or even each group
19:38:11  <hylje> first make the train logic pluggable
19:38:12  <Bjarni> half of them impossible to trace because it's random events based on critical race between threads
19:38:22  <OwenS> Thats why you lock
19:38:39  <Bjarni> the lock can be buggy
19:38:45  <hylje> then branch out the multithreaded pathfinder
19:38:48  <OwenS> True
19:38:57  <Bjarni> and there might be other stuff that needs locking, that nobody thought of
19:38:57  <hylje> and encourage people to do crazy functionality testing on it
19:39:00  <Bjarni> that happened to TGP
19:39:29  <OwenS> Why is it people insist on having returns always at the end of functions?
19:39:29  <Bjarni> luckily that relatively simple threading issue was found and fixed
19:39:36  <Wolf01> i wish to be able to drag wagons with the mouse, to made realistic shunting yards
19:39:51  <Bjarni> OwenS: because writing code after return is pointless ;)
19:40:01  <OwenS> No, I mean people who do
19:40:06  <Tron> <OwenS> Hmm, one mutexfor each tile wouldn't be too bad however <--- uh... WHAT?
19:40:17  <OwenS> if(blah) rv = 0
19:40:17  <OwenS> else rv = (complex stuff here)
19:40:17  <OwenS> return rv;
19:40:28  <hylje> Wolf01: hehe godmode
19:40:33  <OwenS> Tron: OK, it's possible locking would be slow
19:40:35  <hylje> Wolf01: poke the train elsewhere
19:41:01  <OwenS> Tron: It's the challenge of balancing contention vs locking speed
19:41:08  <Tron> OwenS: slow... that's what i call an understatement
19:41:11  <hylje> if trains crash your job is to pick the vehicles and drop them into trash bin
19:41:18  <Wolf01> what about open depots and limit train size on depot size?
19:41:32  <hylje> Wolf01: suggested already? it sounds neat though
19:41:45  <Bjarni> if threading is added, we should NOT make a single core game slower, at least not enough to notice
19:41:57  <OwenS> True
19:42:07  <Wolf01> i suggest it each time i mind shunting yards
19:42:51  <hylje> is train breaking down logic final?
19:43:21  <Bjarni> say we figure out a way to make something threaded, but we need an 10% overhead, then it would increase speed on multiple cores, but slow down monocore systems
19:43:26  <hylje> i think that trains shouldnt break down 100% and stop too often, just slow down and head to the closest depot it can get
19:43:59  <OwenS> The thing is, it would be possible to make the lock/unlock macros a single instruction on most platforms (x86 for example has an "jump and set if zero" instruction
19:44:11  <Bjarni> usually breakdowns result in complete stops as the driver have to leave the cab to make a one minute repair to continue
19:44:27  <OwenS> Unlock is just a decrement
19:45:01  <OwenS> I dislike how often TTD makes breakdowns happen however; Totaly unrealistic
19:45:23  <Bjarni> I once witnessed a funny breakdown. The train stopped, the driver went back into the passenger compartment, opened a door/hatch, rebooted the computer in there and went back to driving
19:45:38  <Wolf01> i agree, locomotion ones are better
19:46:01  <Bjarni> breakdown: reboot the train :D
19:46:14  <OwenS> rofl
19:46:35  <Wolf01> lol, may trains have windows
19:46:43  <Bjarni> I think they got a software update so it should not happen anymore, at least not like that
19:46:53  <OwenS> I bet the train ran Windows :P
19:47:04  <OwenS> (OK, somewhat unlikely, but still...)
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19:48:29  <Bjarni> it was funny when the train rebooted. It turned off all the lights except some dim lights, that's always on for safety reasons and everything turned off, so it became really silent for a moment
19:48:39  <OwenS> lol
19:49:04  <Bjarni> a moment being like 5 sec
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19:50:18  <Bjarni> imagine going back in time and tell a train driver, that got problems with his train to turn it off and on again and it will work again because that is the trick they will use in the future
19:50:21  <hylje> i remember in the brits that teh train/metro lost power for a second for two
19:50:40  <Bjarni> underground, not metro ;)
19:50:46  <hylje> same concept
19:50:58  <Bjarni> or even tube, if you speak local dialect ;)
19:51:02  <OwenS> London Underground originally ran on Steam
19:51:08  <Bjarni> yeah
19:51:22  <Bjarni> from 1863 to 1895, they ran on steam exclusively
19:51:36  <hylje> and speaking of that, those tunnels with the older lines were pretty small
19:51:39  <OwenS> They had a complex system for storing it then bursting it out of holes
19:51:48  <OwenS> hylje: Thats the NEWER lines
19:51:50  <hylje> steam metro is also quite a hack
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19:52:12  <hylje> OwenS: the newer lines had luxurious space
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19:52:34  <OwenS> The really small tube ones are newer than most of the larger subsurfaces
19:53:54  <hylje> heh
19:54:02  <hylje> budget concerns?
19:54:13  <OwenS> Nah, digginbg a hole that deep is more expensive
19:54:16  <Bjarni> <-- ever seen one of those engines?
19:54:28  <hylje> no
19:54:28  <Bjarni> specially designed to avoid a smoke problem in tunnels
19:55:43  <Bjarni> the whole front is an addon. Both the large vertically places to keep the smoke away from the boiler and the / plate to make a draft going upwards
19:56:26  <Bjarni> also they had the ability to move the exhaust steam into the water tanks instead of out of the chimney. A true engine designed to run in tunnels
19:56:34  <znikoz> Bjarni: may i say a little about problem with REFIT vehicles
19:56:50  <Bjarni> powerful too. 1000 HP (for a tank engine)
19:56:54  <Bjarni> znikoz: go ahead
19:57:26  <znikoz> when i sold vehicle and bought new vehicle orders list is save but cargo type no and i must refin new vehicle manualy
19:58:03  <Bjarni> what is the problem?
19:58:39  <Bjarni> use autoreplace if you want to do this the easy way
19:59:01  <znikoz> my aircraft was refited to mail and getting old i sold it and buy new and that new transported PASSENGERS
19:59:32  <OwenS> Yes, since thats the aircraft's default
19:59:32  <Bjarni> enable autorenew in the patch settings
19:59:36  <hylje> in my experience refitting works fairly well with autorenew
20:00:01  <Bjarni> and then you should not care about replacing it. It's done automatically and it just works
20:00:32  <Bjarni> I spend a great deal of time to write it and then remove all the bugs. Now that it really works, go ahead and use it ;)
20:01:02  *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
20:01:14  <Bjarni> I think I fixed the last bug 365 days after I started working on autoreplace, so it's not a small thing
20:01:32  <Bjarni> seriously, 363-365 days of development
20:01:37  <Bjarni> + bug fixing
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20:02:06  <Bjarni> granted, I also did other stuff during that time, but still...
20:02:41  <Bjarni> <Bjarni> <-- ever seen one of those engines? <-- are you serious that nobody have seen this engine???
20:04:23  <Bjarni> and then the channel turned idle...
20:04:32  <hylje> heheh
20:04:53  <Bjarni> I think you have seen it. You just forgot it
20:05:41  <Bjarni> it's that engine (not just type, but the actual engine from the pic) that pulled the circus train in James Bond - Octopussy
20:05:56  <Bjarni> some if not all of you have seen that
20:05:59  <hylje> :o
20:06:07  <hylje> some obscure stuff still
20:06:18  <Bjarni> ?
20:06:27  <Bjarni> what do you mean?
20:07:05  <hylje> well everyone has seen almost everything but most of that stays obscure
20:07:48  <Bjarni> the funny thing is that it's a Danish engine, build in Denmark, recorded in England as a German engine driving in DDR
20:08:24  <lolman> Back :)
20:08:44  <Bjarni> I think you can see an English style crossing (in what the movie calls Germany), but I'm not entirely sure
20:09:06  <Bjarni> lolman: you know this one, right?
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20:10:35  <Bjarni> what is it with that question?
20:10:47  <Bjarni> it turns the channel idle each time it shows up :/
20:10:59  <Bjarni> it's a yes/no question
20:11:04  <Bjarni> it's not that tricky
20:11:43  <hylje> maybe
20:12:12  <Bjarni> great, now lolman died
20:12:17  <Bjarni> again
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20:12:28  <lolman> Sorry was busy
20:12:45  <Bjarni> stop jerking off in the middle of a conversation
20:12:54  <lolman> I'm not lol
20:12:56  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	lolman: you know this one, right?
20:12:59  <hylje> heheh
20:13:14  <lolman> Don't recognise it
20:13:24  <Wolf01> 'night
20:13:25  <Bjarni> >_<
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20:13:31  <Bjarni> what is it with you guys?
20:13:42  <lolman> I'm not a train geek :P
20:13:59  <Bjarni> lolman: I think it have been driving in your backyard (or close by)
20:14:31  <Bjarni> go back to 21:05 (your time) and read what it is
20:14:32  <lolman> Bjarni: I don't live near any railway lines
20:14:46  <lolman> Ohhh
20:14:59  <lolman> THAT'S what it is
20:15:26  <Bjarni> and you have seen that one before, right?
20:15:31  <lolman> No :P
20:15:36  <Bjarni> ...
20:15:52  <Bjarni> I think they recorded the train ride near York, but I'm not 100% sure
20:16:04  <Bjarni> I forgot the actual location
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20:16:18  <lolman> Bjarni: when was it filmed?
20:16:24  <Bjarni> there is no point in asking Sacro
20:16:28  <Bjarni> lolman: 1983
20:16:37  <lolman> Bjarni: How old am I?
20:17:02  <Bjarni> according to your original nick, you are an old dude of 89 years
20:17:04  <Bjarni> :p
20:17:11  <lolman> Nope, I'm 17 :P
20:17:13  <hylje> lolol
20:17:31  <Nigel> 89 as in 1989 i assume
20:17:43  <lolman> Yeah Nigel
20:17:44  <Bjarni> hi sir Nigel
20:17:54  <Bjarni> and you are from 1935, I presume
20:18:12  <Nigel> how did you guess?
20:18:12  <Bjarni> which would make you 71 years old
20:18:40  <Nigel> no, i was born in the year 2020, i just decided to do a bit of time travel
20:18:45  <Bjarni> I know railroad history. The Mallard and Sir Nigel is the same age and the same type (A4)
20:19:02  <Bjarni> *are
20:20:06  <Nigel> well, i'm off
20:20:22  <Nigel> need to catch my buses & trains and what not for the day
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20:20:34  <Bjarni>
20:20:46  * Sacro cries
20:20:50  <Nigel> sadly, my original idea for an Auckland rail set won't work
20:21:01  <lolman> Sacro
20:21:02  <lolman> ?
20:21:04  <Bjarni> why not?
20:21:06  <Nigel> I was going to set the reliablity to 5%
20:21:11  <Bjarni> haha
20:21:13  <Sacro> lolman: everythings getting me down
20:21:25  * lolman slaps Sacro
20:21:30  <lolman> get a grip of yerself
20:21:31  <Sacro> thanks...
20:21:41  <Bjarni> not powerful enough
20:21:46  *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [hope this helps]
20:21:50  <Nigel> somehow the reliability shot up to about 95%
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20:21:55  <Sacro> nope, didnt
20:22:14  <Bjarni> Nigel: well, keep working on it ;)
20:22:15  <Sacro> and damnit, the company name i was going to use is taken :(
20:22:26  <stillunknown> Bjarni: that picture, when was it taken?
20:22:38  <Bjarni> of the A4?
20:22:42  <Bjarni> beats me
20:22:46  <Bjarni> I just googled for it
20:23:24  <stillunknown> i've seen better A4's (not in real life, but on tv and pictures)
20:24:03  <Bjarni> the point is that the pic shows Sir Nigel and Nigel showed up the the channel, so I said that he's 71 years old ;)
20:24:11  <Bjarni> not that it should be pretty or anything
20:24:19  * Sacro considers domain purchasing
20:24:42  <Bjarni> ?
20:24:52  <Sacro> Bjarni: no, for my new company
20:25:07  <Sacro> except orudge doesnt appear to do
20:25:11  <Bjarni> I think is for sale
20:25:23  <Sacro> could have sacro.ttt
20:25:24  <Sacro> *tt
20:25:34  <stillunknown>
20:26:05  <Bjarni> but the nameplate is not as easily read
20:26:09  <Sacro> now, whats better, .com, .net, .org
20:26:21  <Bjarni> you can't have .xxx
20:26:26  <Bjarni> Bush went against that idea
20:26:33  <stillunknown> streamliners need to be pretty :-)
20:26:51  <stillunknown> it depends on what you want to do with the domain
20:26:53  <Bjarni> streamliners needs to be fast
20:27:33  <Sacro> wtf is .in
20:27:37  <Bjarni> Sacro: you can have a company specialised in slackery?
20:27:43  <Bjarni> India
20:28:10  <Bjarni>
20:28:14  <Sacro> :o
20:28:30  <Bjarni> ok, maybe another subdir
20:28:34  <Bjarni> but the idea is nice
20:28:51  <Bjarni>
20:29:03  <Bjarni>
20:29:04  <Sacro> where can i buy domains
20:29:08  <Bjarni>
20:29:35  <Sacro> Bjarni: very nice...
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20:29:52  <Bjarni> yeah
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20:29:59  <Bjarni> if you lived in Austria
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20:30:24  <Born_Acorn> <-- Sir Nigel Gresley fails on Gresford bank.
20:30:27  <Born_Acorn> It stalled!
20:32:03  <Bjarni> hehe
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20:32:27  <Bjarni> steam locomotives increase their max power output when they increase speed
20:32:42  <Bjarni> making them rather weak when starting uphill
20:33:15  <Bjarni> if it were running 6-70 before the hill, then it might have been able to make it all the way to the top at that speed
20:33:29  <Bjarni> might even have accelerated
20:33:47  <Bjarni> this is one of the reasons why steam died in favour of electric traction
20:33:53  <Born_Acorn> It was only moving at a walking pace when that photo was taken, and with a big Tourist train, it failed.
20:34:21  <Bjarni> I can read
20:34:42  <Born_Acorn> I know! Im just in a narrative mood
20:34:52  <Bjarni> *mode
20:34:55  <Bjarni> :p
20:34:58  <Born_Acorn> said Born_Acorn, enthusiastically.
20:35:35  * Bjarni switches Born_Acorn's mode to sceptical
20:36:08  <Sacro> found my domain, but cant get it using paypal :(
20:36:09  <Born_Acorn> hmm. I don't know...
20:36:27  <Bjarni> so, 1977... to bad they didn't have radio back then
20:36:32  <Bjarni> Sacro: why not?
20:36:41  <Born_Acorn> They had radio before air was invented.
20:36:52  * lws1984 has had radio since before he was born!
20:37:07  <Bjarni> I mean they didn't use it
20:37:07  <Sacro> Bjarni: i have to find another company that accepts it
20:37:32  <Bjarni> Sacro: how should you pay if not though paypal?
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20:38:21  <Bjarni> I kind of like
20:38:26  <Bjarni> it seems to fit you well
20:38:40  *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH
20:38:46  <Bjarni> describe you very well
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20:38:58  <Sacro> im also curous about prices for servers...
20:39:16  <lolman> Sacro: 2 words, not cheap
20:39:55  <Sacro> lolman: 2 words, thought not
20:40:06  <lolman> Lol
20:40:15  <lolman> Sarcastic bugger
20:40:22  <Sacro> :\ 588 ppa
20:40:31  <Bjarni> hehe, I just got a funny thought
20:40:33  <Sacro> or 49 ppm + vat
20:40:44  <OwenS> ppm? Parts per million?
20:40:53  <Sacro> OwenS: pounds per month
20:41:12  <OwenS> </pedant reason="sacrodoesn'tgetit">
20:41:21  <Bjarni> imagine being a movie actor and playing married to somebody and half way though the movie, you start to hate each other, but you still have to make passionate kissing scenes
20:41:28  <Bjarni> that would suck
20:41:37  <Sacro> Bjarni: i dont think so
20:41:42  <Sacro> what if she started hating you?
20:42:07  <Sacro> your being paid loads of money to have a girl get it on with you
20:42:13  <Bjarni> I mean if you both start to hate each other
20:42:45  <lolman> Ok my mouse has stopped working lol
20:42:51  <Bjarni> you would likely do it (specially you Sacro), but is it possible to make convincing?
20:43:10  <Bjarni> lolman: the rest of us would cause at such a fact
20:43:13  <Bjarni> you are special
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20:43:19  <lolman> :-D
20:43:35  <Bjarni> reminds me of flowers for Algenon
20:43:43  <lolman> I can't help the random outbursts :P
20:43:49  <Bjarni> in the beginning, he was very easy to please
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20:46:14  <Sacro> :o 50ppm for reseller hosting
20:48:27  *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone
20:48:35  <Sacro> :D i can become an ISP
20:49:13  <Belugas_Gone> 'night all
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20:49:36  <Sacro> anywhoo, i think im gonna go out for a bit
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20:50:59  <lolman> Cya Sacro
20:51:06  <Sacro> lolman: see you
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20:53:34  <Darkvater> 'ello
20:53:59  <Bjarni> hi dark fellow
20:54:06  <Bjarni> hmm
20:54:13  <Bjarni> would that make you a drow?
20:55:00  <hylje> no
20:55:03  <Darkvater> Bjarni! Stop drinking you bum
20:55:06  <hylje> unless he can prove his elvenness
20:55:23  <Bjarni> o_O
20:55:32  <Bjarni> drinking my bum?
20:55:37  <Bjarni> wtf are you talking about?
20:55:49  <Bjarni> on 2n thought, I don't want to know
20:55:50  <Darkvater> clearly a case of insufficient english knowledge
20:56:00  * Darkvater uploads Bjarni some english skills
20:56:38  <Bjarni> oh, you didn't typo your into you then
20:57:11  <Bjarni> but you are incorrect. I'm not a bum
20:57:17  <Bjarni> and I'm not drinking
20:57:29  <Bjarni> anyway
20:57:38  <Bjarni> Darkvater: TGP is ready to be merged
20:57:54  <Darkvater> don't see truelight around
20:58:00  <Darkvater> did you have a look through the diff? ;)
20:58:08  <Bjarni> <Rubidium>	Bjarni: I've got not problem if you merge TGP & trunk; there have been no new bugs since way before TrueLight left and it was ready to merge, but it got delayed due to the release of 0.4.8
20:58:52  <Rubidium> Darkvater: TrueLight is on vacation till Friday
20:59:09  <Darkvater> I know
20:59:37  <Bjarni> the issue about the diff is.... I don't really understand how it works (never understood the map generator), but I can say that it works
20:59:52  <Bjarni> I tried it several times and all the bugs I found have been fixed a while ago
21:00:26  <Darkvater> I'm not really gonna look through tgp.c either, too technical, but we should have a look at the ingame hooks, the gui code and the TGP interface
21:01:26  <Bjarni> hmm
21:01:31  <Bjarni> how to generate the diff...
21:01:41  <Rubidium> see the mail from TrueLight
21:01:44  <Darkvater> look in the mail truelight sent around
21:01:51  <Bjarni> ah
21:01:55  <Bjarni> yes
21:02:04  <Bjarni> now that you mention it, I can remember reading that mail
21:02:04  <Rubidium> svn diff svn:// svn:// ;)
21:02:36  <Bjarni> sounds easy
21:02:55  <Bjarni> so..
21:03:03  <Darkvater> > tgp.diff
21:03:04  <Darkvater> ;p
21:03:15  <Bjarni> there is the savegame revision to check (important) and the hooks
21:03:19  <Bjarni> and the GUI
21:03:22  <Rubidium> and it works too, as TGP is completely synced with trunk
21:03:58  <Bjarni> I just noticed an interesting thing
21:04:23  <Bjarni> TL added this to the cocoa video driver
21:04:33  <Bjarni> I didn't notice that he changed that file
21:04:42  <Bjarni> no wonder he was so eager to get me to test it :)
21:05:42  <Bjarni> +STR_LOAD_GAME_HEIGHTMAP                                         :{WHITE}Use Heightmap
21:05:44  <Bjarni> +STR_LOAD_SCEN_HEIGHTMAP                                         :{BLACK}Use Heightmap
21:06:04  <Bjarni> can't we merge those into one string and then give the colour as a parameter?
21:06:58  <glx> is it possible to do that with widget arrays?
21:07:23  <Bjarni> I mean it looks silly to have two identical text strings
21:07:49  <glx> I agree but the widget/window stuff needs it I think
21:08:05  <Bjarni> actually it would be {WHITE}{STRING} and then add "Use Heightmap" as a parameter
21:08:42  <glx> but you can't use params in widget arrays
21:08:55  <Bjarni> hmm
21:09:13  <Bjarni> good point
21:09:18  <Bjarni> it stays as it is then
21:09:47  <Darkvater> Bjarni: you can't do that
21:09:52  <Darkvater> what if people use a different language?
21:10:04  <Darkvater> glx: you can actually
21:10:12  <Darkvater> glx: very, very ugly, but you can
21:10:35  <glx> Darkvater: yes in paint handler but it's ugly :)
21:10:36  <Bjarni> I meant "Use Heightmap" as say STR_USE_HEIGHTMAP
21:10:59  <Bjarni> so it adds a parameter from the lng file
21:11:10  <Darkvater> glx: yep, right before drawwindowwidgets()
21:12:05  <Bjarni> I didn't want to hardcode the game into using an English string :p
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21:14:03  <Bjarni> gah
21:14:17  <Bjarni> Rubidium: you guys sure types a whole lot...
21:15:56  <MeusH[away]> how about STR_WHITE and STR_USE_HEIGHTMAP?
21:16:02  *** MeusH[away] is now known as MeusH
21:16:12  <MeusH> wouldn't it be the same effect?
21:16:28  <Darkvater> what would STR_WHITE do?
21:16:40  <MeusH> we would at least get rid of {WHITE}Iron ore {BLACK}Iron ore and {TINYFONT}Iron ore
21:16:44  <Bjarni> {WHITE}{STRING}
21:16:50  <MeusH> Darkvater: STR_WHITE would contain this ^
21:16:53  <MeusH> what Bjarni wrote;)
21:16:54  <MeusH> thanks
21:16:59  <Darkvater> that won't work
21:17:04  <MeusH> or at least just {WHITE}
21:17:16  <Darkvater> I think
21:17:17  <Bjarni> {WHITE} alone will never work
21:17:27  <Bjarni> Darkvater: I think it would work
21:17:36  <Rubidium> 23:14 <@Bjarni> Rubidium: you guys sure types a whole lot... <- what do you mean by that? That the diff is quite huge or something else?
21:17:44  <glx> already in english.txt : STR_012D                                                        :{WHITE}{STRING}
21:17:49  <Bjarni> maybe I should investigate this option
21:17:51  <MeusH> allright guys, goodnight
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21:18:01  <Bjarni> Rubidium: yes.... the diff will take ages to read :(
21:18:17  <Darkvater> suits you right!
21:18:18  <Bjarni> and it's not like it got punchlines like or anything
21:18:25  <Darkvater> evil *grin*
21:20:36  <Rubidium> Bjarni: yes, the branch has become a little bit large and maybe more difficult to review
21:21:22  <Bjarni> maybe???
21:21:45  <Bjarni> I'm half way though, but I haven't understood shit, so I'm wondering about the point in continuing
21:21:55  <Darkvater> punishment
21:22:25  <Bjarni> why should I be punished for wanting to add something that appears to work and people wants to use?
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21:22:41  <Darkvater> because lolman said so
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21:23:05  <lolman> lol
21:23:19  <lolman> Ya bugger
21:23:46  <Bjarni> <Darkvater>	because lolman said so <-- he did?
21:23:51  <Bjarni> I don't think so
21:23:55  <lolman> what?
21:23:58  <Bjarni> all he ever says is lol
21:24:09  <Bjarni> hence the name I gave him
21:24:10  <lolman> What did I say?
21:24:11  <Darkvater> he did say that
21:24:21  <Darkvater> didn't you manlol?
21:24:39  <lolman> I don't remember typing that
21:24:45  <Bjarni> I said lolman at one time
21:24:55  <Bjarni> and some other lol names
21:25:01  <Bjarni> and then he changed his nick to lolman
21:25:08  <lolman> Yeah he said lolman and omgman
21:25:12  <ln-> i just realised there's an island called "LOL land" in denmark. isn't that a little ridiculous?
21:25:14  <Bjarni> no
21:25:17  <Bjarni> not omgman
21:25:31  <lolman> Oh, you asked where omgman was, or was that blathjis?
21:25:51  <Darkvater> !seen omgman
21:25:52  <DorpsGek> Darkvater, omgman? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember omgman.
21:25:57  <Darkvater> !seen DorpsGek
21:25:58  <DorpsGek> Darkvater, if you can't see DorpsGek here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^
21:26:07  <lolman> !seen JohnUK89
21:26:07  * Darkvater can't see DorpsGek
21:26:08  <DorpsGek> lolman, I found 5 matches to your query: lolman, lolman_, JohnUK89, deadlolman, john. lolman (~john@ was last seen joining #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 21:22). lolman is still there.
21:26:23  <Darkvater> !seen celestar
21:26:24  <DorpsGek> Darkvater, I don't remember seeing celestar.
21:26:32  <Bjarni> ln-: well, it's a funny place to live
21:26:39  <Bjarni> and there is thunder right now
21:26:56  <Bjarni> Darkvater: Celestar never switched server for some reason
21:28:01  <Darkvater> he's away most likely
21:28:14  <Bjarni> yeah
21:28:57  <Bjarni> singing "'cus I'm leaving on a jetplane, don't know when I will get back"
21:29:14  <lolman> Bjarni: NO! You sang it WRONG!
21:29:23  <Bjarni> I just realised that
21:29:25  <Bjarni> :(
21:29:30  <lolman> "Leaving, on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again!"
21:29:46  <Bjarni> well
21:29:56  <Bjarni> haven't heard it in more than a year or so
21:30:00  <lolman> Aah lol
21:30:53  <Bjarni> anyway, the point remain, he left on one of his jet planes and we don't know when he returns
21:30:58  <lolman> Yes
21:31:30  <Bjarni> lolman: you joined late, so you might not know this, but Celestar really is a jet plane guy in real life
21:31:44  <lolman> Bjarni: aah, rich git?
21:31:58  <lolman> Or just licensed pilot?
21:32:00  <Bjarni> no
21:32:09  <Patrick`> no, an actual jet plane
21:32:14  <Patrick`> he has wings and an undercarriage
21:32:21  <Bjarni> Ph.D. in plane engineering
21:32:29  <lolman> Bjarni: aah :)
21:33:12  <Bjarni> or maybe it's still future Ph.D.... I can't really remember. It's been a while
21:33:56  <Darkvater> no, he was finished
21:34:08  <lolman> Well done to him!
21:34:09  <Bjarni> thought so
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21:34:32  <Bjarni> that's why he lacks time now. No study time to spend on OTTD :p
21:34:49  <lolman> Lol, that is a problem :P
21:35:38  <Bjarni> lolman: btw what are you going to be when you grow up?
21:35:46  <lolman> Bjarni: no idea :P
21:36:05  <lolman> "I want to be an F1 driverrrrr" :-D
21:36:22  <Bjarni> oh that kind of guy
21:36:36  <Bjarni> they end up as garbage collectors
21:36:47  <lolman> Nah, lol I'm not "that kind of guy"
21:36:49  <Bjarni> at least judging from how they drive those trucks
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21:37:20  <lolman> I know I'll never be an F1 driver, so I'm going down the much easier route of IT support :P
21:38:21  <Bjarni> you know, driving F1 will make you lose money, even if you succeed. The whole car industry got a system of where to place the drivers so they don't pay taxes (special islands for that), so they can make a (poor) living out of driving
21:38:46  <Bjarni> they earn a lot of money, but the are in constant dept due to those expensive cars
21:38:56  <lolman> lol
21:39:15  <lolman> I don't want to be in debt :P
21:40:26  <Bjarni> and they can't really quit without winning in lotto or something or they will end up with an unpayable dept
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21:40:38  <Bjarni> I would never do such a thing
21:40:39  <lolman> Hehe
21:40:54  <lolman> That's why Coulthard still drives in F1 then...and Schumacher too
21:40:58  <Bjarni> and I recommend others to stay away as well
21:41:23  <Bjarni> I guess so
21:41:29  <OwenS> Why did Opera reccomend opening a zip with WINE?!
21:41:30  <OwenS> O.o
21:41:50  <lolman> OwenS: dunno, because Opera is a bit dopey?
21:42:02  <lolman> I mean I saw her shows, and they were crap :-D
21:42:03  <OwenS> Opera is normally smart
21:42:09  <OwenS> -.-
21:42:16  <OwenS> Shes called Operah anyway...
21:42:24  <Bjarni> for the same reason that firefox once tried to open a dmg (disk image file) in a hex editor.... I have no idea why that happens once in a while
21:42:28  <lolman> Damn yoooo! :P
21:42:38  <Bjarni> I have even considered deleting the hex editor as I don't really use it anymore
21:42:55  <OwenS> KHexEdit?
21:43:35  <Bjarni> I'm on OSX, you dork
21:43:45  <OwenS> Oh, I forgot :P
21:44:02  * Bjarni slaps OwenS hard
21:44:12  <Bjarni> you even claim to be on the forum
21:44:27  * OwenS pulls out  a "You have lost at life" card on Bjarni
21:45:07  <Bjarni> hehe
21:45:22  <Bjarni> reminds me of Magic the Gathering
21:45:29  * lolman starts downloading Opera
21:45:31  <Bjarni> there used to be a spell called time walk
21:45:32  <Darkvater> hmm
21:45:33  <lolman> Fancy giving it a go
21:45:35  <Darkvater> early night
21:45:39  <Darkvater> see you all tomorrow
21:45:47  <OwenS> Opera 9 is nice
21:45:58  <OwenS> Fast, looks good, renders WAY better than firefox
21:46:03  <OwenS> Oh, has SVG support :)
21:46:20  <Bjarni> originally it said "opponent lose next turn", so people started using it as a sure win card because the opponent would always lose when it was used
21:46:30  <lolman> OwenS: well if it renders better than Firefox I'll be using it as me main browser
21:46:45  <lolman> Ooh BitTorrent support built in...nice
21:46:49  <Bjarni> in a newer "release", the text was changed to "you take an extra turn once your turn is finished"
21:47:03  <OwenS> Opera passes Acid2
21:47:13  <OwenS> Being the 3rd (IIRC), after Safari and Konqueror
21:48:09  <OwenS> <- Open that in a Firefox instance you can afford to loose
21:49:35  * lolman waits
21:49:46  <Bjarni> lolman: you disappoint me. You didn't say lol to what I just told
21:50:07  <lolman> Bjarni: I didn't read it lol
21:50:22  <lolman> OwenS: it appears to have frozen :P
21:50:27  <OwenS> It does
21:50:37  <OwenS> It's a tonne of nested <marquee>s
21:50:39  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	reminds me of Magic the Gathering
21:50:40  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	there used to be a spell called time walk
21:50:43  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	originally it said "opponent lose next turn", so people started using it as a sure win card because the opponent would always lose when it was used
21:50:49  <Bjarni> <Bjarni>	in a newer "release", the text was changed to "you take an extra turn once your turn is finished"
21:51:01  <OwenS> Haha
21:51:04  <lolman> lol Bjarni
21:51:15  <lolman> Bit of a contradiction there
21:51:32  <lolman> Well, a vaguery at the very least
21:51:46  <Bjarni> the thing is, if you started with the right cards, you could play that card before the opponent got his first turn
21:51:53  <OwenS> BTW, Opera needs a bit of getting used to
21:52:12  <lolman> OwenS: I'm sure I can get used to it :)
21:54:17  <OwenS> Its also skinable, but I use the default skin since it's nice :P
21:54:23  <lolman> Ooh exam results tomorrow
21:54:36  <lolman> OwenS: I'm not fussed about skins as long as it works :P
21:54:45  <OwenS> :P
21:55:12  <OwenS> It's also really nice on the memory (Yes i'm looking at you firefox -.-)
21:55:58  <lolman> Lol
21:56:06  * lolman looks at System Monitor
21:56:34  <lolman> 32.2MiB :o
21:56:41  <OwenS> What is?
21:56:52  <lolman> Firefox memory usage
21:57:02  <OwenS> Ive had it use ~150mB
21:57:29  <lolman> OwenS: The :o was at the fact it's less than I've ever seen it, even under Windoze
21:57:43  <OwenS> Aah
21:58:05  <OwenS> Hmm, anyone know how to get a simple indication of memory usage under unicies?
21:58:18  <glx> hmm only 23MB for me actually
21:58:30  <OwenS>  22:58:19 up 12:27,  4 users,  load average: 0.50, 0.27, 0.22
21:58:30  <OwenS> OMG that low? :)
21:58:37  <lolman> glx: must be my extensions
21:58:55  <glx> (winXP here)
21:59:01  <lolman> I have no swap either, so it's all in RAM :)
21:59:14  <bruce89> i already have my exam results
21:59:43  <lolman> Bruce89: what exams?
21:59:48  <bruce89> highers
21:59:51  <OwenS> I have 1gb Ram and 512mb swap
21:59:55  <lolman> Aah
21:59:59  <lolman> I'm in England
22:00:05  <bruce89> firefox 2 is worse by the way
22:00:11  <lolman> OwenS: just the RAM here
22:00:26  <OwenS> Firefox 2 is currently being built in debug mode most likely; Of course it is
22:00:32  <bruce89> 1 page = 91.4MiB
22:00:47  <SpComb> OwenS: free for system mem use, top for taskmanager-style, ps with some options for more details
22:00:48  <bruce89> i suppose
22:01:41  <OwenS> Using top how do I dentify (Out of all of those) how much memory it's using (Minus mmap()ed stuff)
22:02:22  <lolman> My total memory usage (with more apps open) is less than XP...nice :-D
22:02:37  <lolman> And it's not swapped half the kernel either...
22:02:44  <OwenS> rofl
22:02:46  <SpComb> OwenS: RES should be real mem use
22:02:55  <OwenS> It should really be using all the memory possible
22:03:00  <OwenS> Linux does that 99% of the time
22:03:05  <OwenS> It caches tonnes of stuff, etc
22:03:18  <SpComb> yeah, linux always uses as much mem as possible
22:03:27  <SpComb> if it can, it will cache your entire hard drive in mem :)
22:03:32  <OwenS>  4020 oshepher  15   0  471m 118m  16m S  0.3 11.7   8:53.24 opera <- But I have a tonne of tabs, some with flash etc
22:03:32  <lolman> OwenS: 219.7 out of 1011.7 (dunno where the extra 12.3 went)
22:03:55  <SpComb> in MB:
22:03:56  <SpComb>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
22:03:56  <SpComb> Mem:          2028       2020          7          0        157       1485
22:04:18  <SpComb> so I've got approximatly 1.5GB of hard disk in ram :)
22:04:35  <OwenS> Hhee
22:04:44  <lolman> Nice
22:04:44  <OwenS> 430996k cached says top
22:04:55  <SpComb> `free -m`
22:05:01  <lolman> I've not got much cached at all...
22:05:11  <SpComb> I've only got 380MB of ram in real use
22:05:11  <OwenS> 320MB
22:05:21  <OwenS> 420MB even
22:05:24  * SpComb ponders if he should split the two 1 GB sticks into different computers
22:05:25  <bruce89> 261
22:05:39  <lolman> I dunno lol
22:05:41  <SpComb> because I don't really need two GB of ram it seems, utter waste
22:05:46  <lolman> total: command not found
22:05:50  <lolman> :P
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22:06:05  <OwenS> free -m
22:06:27  <bruce89> yikes, it says 701 used
22:06:30  <lolman> damn copy-paste :P
22:06:45  <lolman> 867 used, 227 really used
22:06:50  <lolman> so 595 cached
22:06:57  <lolman> 44 buffers
22:07:17  <lolman> and 0 swap :P
22:07:24  <lolman> either free or used :P
22:07:34  <OwenS> I have my swap empty ^^
22:07:42  <OwenS> Although it claims I only have 255mb swap? Hmm
22:07:58  * SpComb has 0 MB swap in use
22:08:09  * lolman installs Opera
22:08:10  <SpComb> linux doesn't cache the disk into swap :P
22:08:17  <OwenS> :P
22:08:47  <OwenS> I'm actually suprised at it being empty, I would have thought it would have swapped stuff used very rarely to get more commonly used parts of the HD in
22:09:06  <lolman> There we go :)
22:09:11  <lolman> Ooh sexy :P
22:09:15  <OwenS> :P
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22:10:08  <lolman> Me likes :P
22:10:38  <bruce89> ?
22:10:49  <lolman> bruce89: opera
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22:11:05  <bruce89> oh dear
22:11:14  <OwenS> The browser
22:11:36  <lolman> Which uses 21.3MB of RAM against Forefox's 32
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22:11:53  <bruce89> not that much less really
22:11:59  <bruce89> may i suggest w3m
22:12:04  <lolman> No :P
22:12:41  <bruce89> it only uses 2 MiB
22:12:49  <SpComb> 13319 terom     15   0  7636 5024 4560 S  0.0  0.2   0:00.20 lynx
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22:12:52  <OwenS> It's text mode...
22:12:56  <SpComb> my lynx uses 5MB!
22:13:08  <bruce89> i have to say that firefox is nasty for the whole memory issues
22:14:11  <SpComb> firefox's icon is just better than operas :)
22:15:00  <bruce89> it is rather nice, shame it's licencing is all wierd
22:15:04  <OwenS> I like the CrystalOpera logo
22:15:35  <SpComb> is FF 'free as in freedom' anyways?
22:15:43  <bruce89> yes
22:15:47  <bruce89> opera isnt
22:16:19  <lolman> As long as I'm not breaking the law by downloading it and installing it without paying anything, I'm not fussed
22:16:26  <OwenS> I'm of the opinion Linus is though: Use whats best
22:16:44  <bruce89> that's why i use epiphan
22:16:52  <OwenS> Epiphany?
22:17:04  <OwenS> Have they even got that to work with a newer moz release than 1.7?
22:17:08  * SpComb will use what he feels like using
22:17:16  <SpComb> nothing wrong with firefox... some just thing opera is better
22:17:18  <bruce89> yes
22:17:29  <bruce89> i'm using gecko 1.8.1 with it just now
22:17:32  <SpComb> there is something wrong with IE though :)
22:17:40  <OwenS> :)
22:17:47  <OwenS> It's like it has 2 conflicing rendering engines
22:19:49  <lolman> OwenS: any widgets you reckon I should get for this thing?
22:20:00  <OwenS> Ive never used them
22:20:08  <lolman> Okies
22:21:07  * lolman grabs the BitTorrent one
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22:25:47  <lolman> Ooh I like the BitTorrent client it has :)
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22:26:21  <bruce89> ach, i prefer one use, one app
22:26:21  * lolman changes Firefox shortcut on GNOME's panel to an Opera one
22:27:23  <OwenS> Don't use the BT widget then
22:27:52  <lolman> OwenS: the widget searches for torrents
22:28:02  <lolman> It doesn't download them :)
22:28:29  <OwenS> Ohj
22:29:07  <lolman> The inbuilt torrent client deals with that
22:29:09  <lolman> :)
22:29:44  <bruce89> yikes
22:30:12  <bruce89> with all those things, how does it manage to use so little memort
22:30:29  <Bjarni> hahaha, my overlay in google earth just failed in a funny way. The actual layer keeps updating correctly (live update on lighting), but the banner just reported that it failed
22:30:29  <Bjarni> so now I get the updates, but without the commercial in the corner :D
22:30:38  <Bjarni> cool failure xD
22:31:17  <bruce89> adblock would do that
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22:31:59  <lolman> Damn connection
22:32:28  <OwenS> bruce89: If I remember correctly, each part of Opera is both well opimized and also stored as a DSO, only loaded as needed
22:32:52  <bruce89> sounds like majc to me
22:32:56  * XeryusTC slaps Bjarni and runs to #openttdcoop
22:33:12  <bruce89> but still, i prefer nice integration
22:33:43  <bruce89> actually, doesn't firefox have more lines of code than the linux kernel?
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22:34:25  <OwenS> bruce89: I doubt it
22:34:39  <OwenS> Linux has more device drivers in it than any other
22:35:01  <lolman> Linux is a big bugger
22:35:05  <bruce89> no, sorry, it doesn't
22:35:27  <bruce89> firefox -  1,853,257; kernel -  3,255,309
22:35:31  <OwenS> Hehe
22:36:13  <bruce89>
22:37:07  <bruce89> i think they got Gnome wrong -  31,457
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22:37:19  <OwenS> Gnome itself is very small
22:37:27  <OwenS> Heck, what exactly IS gnome itself?
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22:37:35  <bruce89> even they don't know
22:37:51  <OwenS> Haha, NetBSD is bigger than Linux
22:38:13  <OwenS> (For the obvious reason of it running on every system under the sun including a toaster!)
22:38:21  <lolman> Lol
22:38:35  <bruce89> GDB is bigger than GCC
22:38:53  *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz
22:39:00  <OwenS> Thats just silly but reasonable
22:39:11  <OwenS> Wait... No
22:39:20  <OwenS> GCC needs more abstraction
22:39:31  <OwenS> Unless they only count cc, not g++/cxx/etc
22:39:36  <bruce89> i think their numbers are all tae pot
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22:40:07  <bruce89> i like the fixed vunreabilties - gnome -  354, kde -  838
22:40:27  <OwenS> KDE is still better
22:40:33  <OwenS> And how much more source does KDE have? ;)
22:40:44  <lolman> I'm not a fan of KDE
22:40:45  <bruce89> more
22:40:59  <bruce89> but gnome 's is all wrong
22:41:36  <lolman>'s is even worse
22:41:50  <lolman> 25,499 lines??
22:42:04  <bruce89> again, that's just the core
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22:42:22  <lolman> Yeah, X.org7 is modular, is it not?
22:42:37  <OwenS> Yeah
22:42:44  <bruce89> Defect Reports / KLOC is the best comaprison
22:43:07  <lolman> (the only one to hit more than 1 is Thunderbird)
22:43:16  <OwenS> :O
22:43:29  <bruce89> yikes, thats bad
22:44:22  <OwenS> Why is Thunderbird not 1,800,000 lines like Firefox?
22:44:30  <OwenS> Thunderbird requires more than firefox!
22:44:54  <bruce89> i assume that gecko is in the firefox listing
22:45:05  <bruce89> and thunderbird's gecko isnt
22:45:17  <OwenS> Thunderbird should include it all OR Gecko should be it's own independent project
22:45:53  <bruce89> gecko is getting split off into xulrunner
22:45:53  * lolman loves Opera now
22:45:58  <OwenS> :)
22:46:15  <lolman> It seems more polished than Firefox
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22:46:23  <bruce89> shiny?
22:46:30  <lolman> And you're right, it renders better
22:46:59  <lolman> bruce89: not quite :P
22:47:15  <bruce89> bye
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22:47:24  <lolman> You off?
22:47:26  <lolman> Yes
22:47:30  <lolman> lol
22:47:33  *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd
22:47:41  <OwenS> lolmanlols...
22:48:01  <OwenS> I wonder how long Hitman 2 will take to get here
22:48:02  <lolman> OwenS: I like how Opera puts stuff where it should be as soon as it gets the code, not when everything else is loaded
22:48:07  <OwenS> Hehe :)
22:49:08  <lolman> Oh Noes! It's Sacro!
22:49:25  <Sacro> :o lies
22:49:50  <lolman> It's someone disguising as Sacro!!
22:51:36  <Sacro> :o oh noes
22:52:35  <lolman> Sacro: I see you didn't burn half of Beverly down :-D
22:52:55  <lolman> +e
22:57:46  *** Netsplit <-> quits: StormDragoness, Spoco, XeryusTC, coppercore, robobed, PAStheLoD, egladil, ThePizzaKing, lolman, sayno,  (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them)
22:58:09  *** Netsplit over, joins: AciD, sayno, lolman, coppercore, PAStheLoD
22:58:09  <Sacro> errm, ok
22:58:11  <lolman> Ouch
22:58:18  <lolman> wtf?
22:58:21  *** Netsplit over, joins: KritiK, Spoco, ChrisM87, @Bjarni, OwenS, robobed, ThePizzaKing, XeryusTC, Jezral, Naksu (+4 more)
22:58:21  <Sacro> bwahahaha, it got Bjarni
22:58:32  <OwenS> Haha
22:58:44  <OwenS> !seen yourself
22:58:46  <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing yourself.
22:58:52  <OwenS> !seen myself
22:58:52  <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing myself.
22:58:54  <OwenS> Is better :P
22:59:04  <Bjarni> !seen celestar
22:59:04  <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I don't remember seeing celestar.
22:59:06  <OwenS> !seen you
22:59:08  <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing you.
22:59:15  <Bjarni> ---	Notify: Celestar is online (
22:59:16  <lolman> !seen me
22:59:18  <DorpsGek> lolman, I don't remember seeing me.
22:59:19  <Bjarni> he is here somewhere
22:59:27  *** Full [] has joined #openttd
22:59:28  *** OwenS is now known as you
22:59:31  *** you is now known as OwenS
22:59:33  <OwenS> !seen you
22:59:34  <DorpsGek> OwenS, I found 3 matches to your query: OwenS, you, DeadOwenS. OwenS ( was last seen changing his/her nick from you on #openttd 3 seconds ago (16.08. 22:59). OwenS is still there.
22:59:38  <Full> hi
22:59:39  <OwenS> Haha, I broke it now :D
22:59:49  *** OwenS is now known as DorpsGeek
22:59:50  <Bjarni> well, you don't know what I did to XeryusTC
22:59:51  *** DorpsGeek is now known as OwenS
23:00:03  <Bjarni> and the reason why he ran off
23:00:06  <OwenS> !seen OwenS
23:00:06  <DorpsGek> OwenS, do you have a split personality? *eg*
23:00:15  <OwenS> !seen DorpsGek
23:00:17  <DorpsGek> OwenS, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
23:00:17  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: you just slapped me twice
23:00:23  <Bjarni> he slapped me and ran off to #openttdcoop
23:00:27  <lolman> !seen DorpsGeek
23:00:28  <DorpsGek> lolman, DorpsGeek ( was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 35 seconds ago (16.08. 22:59). OwenS is still there.
23:00:31  <Bjarni> then I joined, slapped him and parted
23:00:59  *** OwenS is now known as roflman
23:00:59  <Bjarni> then later I slapped him for running off and then I parted right away (again)
23:01:01  *** roflman is now known as lmaoman
23:01:02  *** lmaoman is now known as OwenS
23:01:03  *** Full [] has quit []
23:01:16  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: no you didn't, there was a long time between it
23:01:18  *** Sacro is now known as JohnUK89
23:01:19  *** Full [] has joined #openttd
23:01:21  <JohnUK89> mwahaha
23:01:24  *** JohnUK89 is now known as Sacro
23:01:24  <XeryusTC> but the irc bridge doesnt warn me of joins
23:01:28  *** Full [] has quit []
23:01:34  <XeryusTC> but you can't ever find me @ TweakIRC :P
23:01:40  <Bjarni> XeryusTC: I didn't mention time between the slaps
23:01:51  <Bjarni> I mentioned time from the slaps to my parting
23:01:53  <Sacro> bums, services is down
23:01:58  <Bjarni> big difference
23:02:06  *** BRKing1 [] has joined #openttd
23:02:19  <XeryusTC> Bjarni: you said you joined, slapped and parted
23:02:25  <Bjarni> I did
23:02:28  *** OwenS is now known as JohnUK89
23:02:32  <XeryusTC> but there was a huge time difference between the joining and slapping once
23:02:34  <JohnUK89> This should mess up Dorpsgek :)
23:02:35  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	-->	You are now talking on #openttdcoop
23:02:35  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	---	Topic for #openttdcoop is #openttdcoop: Cooperative OpenTTD Game Play | Wiki: | Join the Coopetition:
23:02:35  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	---	Topic for #openttdcoop set by valhallasw! at Sun Aug 13 12:28:37 2006
23:02:35  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	<sandbox>	Ammler: bye mucht
23:02:35  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	---	Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz
23:02:37  *** JohnUK89 is now known as OwenS
23:02:39  <Bjarni> [00:38] 	<sandbox>	mowl: less would jam the mainline
23:02:41  <Bjarni> [00:39] 	*	Bjarni slaps XeryusTC
23:02:44  <Bjarni> [00:39] 	---	You have left channel #openttdcoop (Leaving)
23:03:00  <Bjarni> !seen johnuk89
23:03:02  <DorpsGek> Bjarni, JohnUK89 ( was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 24 seconds ago (16.08. 23:02). OwenS is still there.
23:03:14  <OwenS> !seen deadlolman
23:03:16  <DorpsGek> OwenS, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^
23:03:18  <Sacro> that isnt right...
23:03:26  <Sacro> !seen Sacro_
23:03:26  <OwenS> ?
23:03:27  <Bjarni> !seen _lolman
23:03:28  <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 2 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there.
23:03:30  <DorpsGek> Bjarni, _lolman? hmm... I'm trying to remember... maybe... I'm not sure... no. I don't remember _lolman.
23:03:41  <Bjarni> !seen lolman
23:03:42  <DorpsGek> Bjarni, please look a bit closer at the memberlist of this channel.
23:03:45  <Bjarni> !seen lolman_
23:03:46  <DorpsGek> Bjarni, I found 4 matches to your query: lolman, lolman_, deadlolman, john. lolman (~john@ was last seen rejoining #openttd from a netsplit 5 minutes ago (16.08. 22:58) lolman is still there.
23:03:46  <OwenS> !seen deadlolman
23:03:48  <DorpsGek> OwenS, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you?
23:04:01  <OwenS> DorpsGek: You are stupid
23:04:04  <Bjarni> hey, it noticed that it was a netsplit
23:04:07  <Bjarni> clever bot
23:04:22  <BRKing1> i think its limited to 9 characters
23:04:38  <OwenS> !seen deadlolma
23:04:38  <DorpsGek> OwenS, I don't remember seeing deadlolma.
23:04:39  <Bjarni> TL needs to improve that when he returns
23:04:39  <Sacro> wtf is Guest275
23:04:39  <Sacro> !seen Guest275
23:04:39  <Sacro> bots dead...
23:04:40  <Sacro> !seen Sacro_
23:04:40  <Sacro> or i am
23:04:40  <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there.
23:04:42  <Sacro> it has gone all quiet...
23:04:42  <DorpsGek> Sacro, I found 3 matches to your query: Sacro, Sacro_, Guest275. Sacro (~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM) was last seen changing his/her nick from JohnUK89 on #openttd 3 minutes ago (16.08. 23:01). Sacro is still there.
23:04:43  <lolman> Who wants to try changing to JohnUK89 again? :)
23:04:44  <Sacro> hello?
23:04:46  <Sacro> is there anybody there?
23:04:46  <Sacro> :o now thats lag
23:04:57  <SpComb> Sacro: no, that's a flood!
23:04:59  *** OwenS is now known as JohnUK89
23:04:59  <JohnUK89> :P
23:05:01  *** JohnUK89 is now known as OwenS
23:05:10  <lolman> lol
23:05:10  <Sacro> SpComb: no, my client stopped receiving
23:05:18  <Sacro> i was waiting for the ping timeout
23:05:18  <OwenS> !seen JohnUK89
23:05:20  <DorpsGek> OwenS, JohnUK89 ( was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 18 seconds ago (16.08. 23:05). OwenS is still there.
23:05:29  <SpComb> Sacro: everything that you said arrived here as a sudden flood
23:05:38  *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [now I found you John. There is no need to hide anymore]
23:05:46  <lolman> :-D
23:05:49  *** OwenS [] has joined #openttd
23:05:52  <OwenS> Pfft
23:06:05  <Bjarni> you still use your faked name
23:06:28  <OwenS> Bjarni has gone mad...
23:06:28  <BRKing1> !crash
23:06:36  <OwenS> !spam
23:06:36  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:06:43  <OwenS> !commands
23:06:44  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:06:44  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:06:44  <roboboy> * commands start with a !: (robobot) spam, wut, dance, channel, huggle, moo, beer, coke, crisps, girlfriend, nowplaying, present, chanlist, time, date, day, peak. Please dont use the spammy commands in #tycoon and please dont use !spam in #openttd.
23:06:50  <OwenS> !wut
23:06:50  * roboboy Wutwut?
23:06:58  <BRKing1> !Shutdown
23:07:10  <lolman> !diebotdie
23:07:10  <OwenS> !peak
23:07:10  <roboboy> #openttd achieved a max peak of 99 users by Zahl on Sat Aug 12 22:25:18 2006.
23:07:16  <OwenS> !day
23:07:23  <Bjarni> !moo
23:07:23  <OwenS> !nowplaying
23:07:23  <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo Bjarni
23:07:24  * roboboy is now playing: John Broomhall - Movin' On
23:07:26  <Bjarni> !beer
23:07:27  * roboboy gives Bjarni a beer
23:07:31  <Bjarni> :D
23:07:35  <OwenS> !coke
23:07:35  <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then OwenS.
23:07:39  <Sacro> !huggle
23:07:39  * roboboy huggles Sacro
23:07:43  <Sacro> awwwww
23:07:45  <lolman> ewwww
23:07:47  <Sacro> !huggle Bjarni
23:07:47  * roboboy huggles Sacro
23:07:53  <Bjarni> :P
23:07:53  <BRKing1> !moo
23:07:54  <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo BRKing1
23:08:00  <Bjarni> ! girlfriend
23:08:02  <OwenS> !moo !moo
23:08:02  <Sacro> !spam
23:08:02  <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS
23:08:03  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:03  <Bjarni> !girlfriend
23:08:04  <roboboy> You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend??
23:08:13  <OwenS> !moo moo moo
23:08:13  <roboboy> amuuuuuuu to yoooo tooooo OwenS
23:08:26  <lolman> !vodka
23:08:27  <lolman> :P
23:08:29  <SpComb> all ready for !spam in unision?
23:08:30  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:35  <Bjarni> <roboboy>	You're asking a BOT for a girlfriend?? <-- not really. I just wanted to test the script
23:08:45  <SpComb> everyone says !spam in 15 seconds!
23:08:46  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:51  <Sacro> !spam
23:08:51  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:55  <lolman> !spam
23:08:56  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:56  <BRKing1> !Spam
23:08:57  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:08:58  <BRKing1> !spam
23:08:59  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:00  <SpComb> !spam
23:09:01  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:02  <Sacro> !spam
23:09:03  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:08  <lolman> !spam
23:09:08  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:09  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:09  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:12  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:12  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:12  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:12  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:12  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:12  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:12  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:13  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:13  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:13  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:13  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:13  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:13  <Sacro> now all in #tycoon :D
23:09:13  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:15  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:15  <BRKing1> !spam!spam
23:09:16  <OwenS> Do I think some /kicks or /mode +b s are needed?
23:09:16  <SpComb> rather lame
23:09:17  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:17  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:17  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:19  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:19  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:19  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:21  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:21  <BRKing1> !spam!spam!spam
23:09:21  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:23  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:23  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:23  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:25  <BRKing1> !spam!spam
23:09:25  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:25  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:27  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:27  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:27  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:27  <SpComb> BRKing1: no need to be excessive
23:09:29  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:29  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:29  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:31  <BRKing1> !spam!spam
23:09:31  <BRKing1> !spam!spam
23:09:31  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:33  <BRKing1> !spam
23:09:33  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:35  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:37  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:38  <OwenS> Bjarni: Can we kick him?
23:09:39  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:41  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:43  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:45  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:47  <Bjarni> oh that reminds me of a bash quote. Two guys chat. After a while a 3rd person shows up and says "you do realise that you are chatting with a bot, right?"
23:09:49  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:51  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:53  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:53  <OwenS> rofl
23:09:53  * SpComb pokes Bjarni
23:09:55  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:09:57  <roboboy> Boooooooooom!
23:10:04  *** BRKing1 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [spam]
23:10:08  *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [ spam]
23:10:11  *** BRKing1 [] has joined #openttd
23:10:18  *** OwenS [] has joined #openttd
23:10:23  <OwenS> O.o WTF why me? :(
23:10:32  <BRKing1> you where spamming
23:10:48  *** SpComb was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [spam (as requested by YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!)]
23:11:08  *** SpComb [] has joined #openttd
23:11:09  <Sacro> XeryusTC: yeah, my bro has that in one of the rooms he goes in
23:11:16  <Bjarni> OwenS: oops, wrong guy :p
23:11:20  <OwenS> rofl
23:11:25  <SpComb> I find that unnesecary... but meh
23:11:28  <XeryusTC> OwenS: there is always enough reason to kick you :P
23:11:39  <Bjarni> it went a bit quick. The lines scrolled a bit fast, so I kicked an offender
23:11:48  <OwenS> O.o
23:11:50  <Bjarni> and hit your name on <OwenS>	rofl
23:12:07  <glx> OwenS: spam is not funny
23:12:09  <Bjarni> I just saw spam and you said something :p
23:12:26  <lolman> Wrong place wrong time
23:12:28  <BRKing1> does anyone know how to get that web translator to work
23:12:29  <lolman> :)
23:12:35  <Bjarni> actually it's mainly BRKing1, who spammed
23:12:48  <glx> and the bot :)
23:12:49  <Bjarni> BRKing1: yeah. Log in and type in the strings
23:12:55  <SpComb> "O RLY?"
23:13:05  * SpComb retires for the night
23:13:07  <BRKing1> log in to where
23:13:07  <OwenS> Someone needs to give Roboboy a !kick command and give it +o :P
23:13:10  <lolman> "YER, RLY"
23:13:28  <lolman> !kick OwenS :P
23:13:31  <Sacro> lolman: YA RLY :|
23:13:40  *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by lolman ]
23:13:45  <Bjarni> o_O
23:13:47  <lolman> :-D
23:13:49  *** OwenS [] has joined #openttd
23:13:51  <Bjarni> what happened?
23:13:53  <XeryusTC> lol
23:13:55  <OwenS> !kick lolman
23:14:07  *** lolman was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by OwenS ]
23:14:13  <Bjarni> fuck
23:14:13  <Sacro> !kick Darkvater
23:14:19  *** lolman [~john@] has joined #openttd
23:14:22  <OwenS> zomg yay :P
23:14:24  *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [not funny]
23:14:30  <XeryusTC> aw
23:14:35  *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd
23:14:39  <XeryusTC> i was about to say !kick Sacro
23:14:41  <XeryusTC> !kick Sacro
23:14:48  <BRKing1> !kick roboboy
23:14:53  *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [Requested by XeryusTC  ]
23:15:01  <lolman> !kick BRKing1
23:15:10  <OwenS> !ban Sacro
23:15:10  <OwenS> :P
23:15:13  <BRKing1> !kick lolman
23:15:14  *** BRKing1 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [it's a bot. It can't be kicked]
23:15:28  * Bjarni just realised something
23:15:33  <OwenS> Yes?
23:15:35  <Bjarni> now I will look mean in the stats
23:15:39  <OwenS> rofl
23:15:42  <lolman> !stats
23:15:42  <DorpsGek>
23:15:57  <XeryusTC> !beer
23:15:58  * roboboy gives XeryusTC a beer
23:15:58  *** BRKing1 [] has joined #openttd
23:16:01  <XeryusTC> :D
23:16:06  <OwenS> "Licensed, and has Health Certificate."" I can't remember saying that O.o
23:16:12  <BRKing1> oh its got the same blocking system as openttd
23:16:14  <lolman> !coke
23:16:14  <roboboy> Too soft for beer eh? Have a coke then lolman.
23:16:17  <lolman> :D
23:16:23  *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd
23:16:47  <glx> Bjarni is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 8 people!  <-- only 8?
23:16:52  <OwenS> Bjarni can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 5 times.
23:16:59  <OwenS> Poor Bjarni, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 4 times.
23:17:01  <lolman> I've overtaken Sacro as the 4th most talkative person :P
23:17:11  <OwenS> I'm seccond :D
23:17:25  <XeryusTC> im 9th
23:17:30  <BRKing1> where is the stats shown
23:17:33  <XeryusTC> surprises me that only 2 days of talking gets me there :)
23:17:37  <OwenS>   Bjarni spoke a total of 12421 words!
23:17:37  <XeryusTC> !stats
23:17:37  <OwenS> Bjarni's faithful follower, OwenS, didn't speak so much: 4175 words.
23:17:37  <OwenS> Large gap
23:17:39  <DorpsGek>
23:17:41  <lolman> OwenS: add JohnUK89 to mine ;-)
23:17:53  <OwenS> IoebTTD is off the stats ^^
23:17:54  <XeryusTC> XeryusTC seems to be sad at the moment: 5.6% lines contained sad faces. :( :(
23:17:55  <Sacro> :o damn you
23:17:56  <Bjarni> you guys talk too much
23:17:57  <Sacro> !stats
23:17:59  <DorpsGek>
23:18:00  <OwenS> OpenTTD even
23:18:03  <XeryusTC> wait, lets do that properly:
23:18:05  <XeryusTC> XeryusTC seems to be sad at the moment: 5.6% lines contained sad faces. :( <- :(
23:18:07  <Bjarni> izhirahider wrote an average of 37.00 words per line.
23:18:08  <Bjarni> Channel average was 6.94 words per line.
23:18:27  <Sacro> bums, i was at 3rd or something on the previous one
23:18:37  <Sacro>
23:18:38  <lolman> Sacro: lol
23:18:46  <Bjarni> lolman always lets us know what he/she's doing: 51 actions!
23:18:47  <Bjarni> For example, like this:
23:18:47  <Bjarni>      * lolman had best shut up :P
23:18:47  <Bjarni> Also, JohnUK89 tells us what's up with 40 actions.
23:18:55  <lolman> I'm sure I'll have Darkvater overtaken by the end of the night
23:19:05  <lolman> LOL 91 actions by me :P
23:19:18  <Sacro> Sacro1 always lets us know what he/she's doing: 472 actions! :D
23:19:24  <Bjarni> Darkvater: now you need to talk or I will have to ban lolman
23:19:38  * XeryusTC slaps lolman, stats worshipping is bad
23:19:39  <lolman> Bjarni: noooooooooooooo
23:19:45  <Bjarni> Sacro couldn't decide whether to stay or go. 21 joins during this reporting period!
23:19:52  <Bjarni> Sacro: get a new and more stable ISP :p
23:20:00  * OwenS slaps Lolman: Don't try and overtake me!
23:20:12  * lolman slaps XeryusTC back, no it isn't :P
23:20:17  <izhirahider> 37 words per line? That mean I talk that much
23:20:17  <XeryusTC> joining all the time is for fags
23:20:20  <lolman> OwenS: lol :)
23:20:22  <Bjarni> I like how linux gets used all the time
23:20:52  <SpComb> Logs:
23:20:52  <lolman> !logs
23:20:57  <OwenS> Haha
23:21:00  <lolman> So he is :-D
23:21:09  <izhirahider> Bjarni, are the channel stats online?
23:21:12  <OwenS> I like how the only reference to "Licensed, and has Health Certificate." in the logs is me saying 02:16:06 < OwenS> "Licensed, and has Health Certificate."" I can't remember saying that O.o
23:21:15  <Bjarni> you guys like me a lot
23:21:17  <Sacro> wtf, i have over 10000 lines
23:21:25  <Bjarni> you referred to me 278 times
23:21:27  <Bjarni> !stats
23:21:29  <DorpsGek>
23:21:31  <Bjarni> izhirahider: here you go
23:21:41  <lolman> Bjarni: lol
23:22:19  <Sacro> izhirahider:
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23:22:54  <XeryusTC> Sacro: lol, it has my quit scrip quote in it
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23:23:09  <Bjarni> in the old stats, I was once listed as mean due to many kicks and unliked because I was kicked so many times
23:23:19  <Bjarni> when I noticed, I said "I better stop kicking myself"
23:23:35  <OwenS> Haha
23:23:47  <Sacro> lol
23:24:16  <lolman> lol
23:24:36  <Bjarni> CIA-5 seems to be sad at the moment: 22.7% lines contained sad faces. :(
23:24:37  * XeryusTC doesnt that it's funny
23:24:53  <XeryusTC> time to sleep
23:24:59  *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89
23:25:00  <izhirahider> Bjarni, which timezone is the server that creates the stats for this?
23:25:01  <Bjarni> the commit message contains : and then (files)
23:25:10  <Bjarni> MET, I think
23:25:17  <Bjarni> everything OTTD is in that timezone
23:25:22  <OwenS> We still lack CIA-5 and it's banned from the old channel now... As am I anyway...
23:25:23  <Bjarni> makes it easier
23:25:33  <OwenS> MET? UTC offest
23:25:45  <izhirahider> that's GMT-?
23:25:46  * Sacro kicks CiA-5
23:25:49  <Sacro> aww :(
23:25:50  <OwenS> I was sitting there redirecting clueless users
23:25:57  <Sacro> OwenS: UTC === UTC
23:26:04  <JohnUK89> Sacro: he was banned anyway lol
23:26:16  * OwenS thinks he should start talking by saying /me says
23:26:33  * JohnUK89 thinks OwenS shouldn't
23:26:39  * OwenS thinks he should
23:26:48  * OwenS thinks this will become a /me-war
23:26:53  * JohnUK89 will slap OwenS if he does
23:26:53  * lws1984 runs
23:27:02  <Bjarni> next guy to say anything will be kicked
23:27:08  * JohnUK89 trips lws1984 up
23:27:08  <Bjarni> I mean with a /me
23:27:23  <JohnUK89> :o
23:27:24  <OwenS> * sighs
23:27:28  <JohnUK89> I lagged!
23:27:38  *** JohnUK89 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [you spoke]
23:27:47  *** JohnUK89 [~john@] has joined #openttd
23:27:51  * OwenS can do this again now ^^
23:27:55  <JohnUK89> lol ya bugger :P
23:28:04  *** OwenS was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [who said you could do that]
23:28:11  *** OwenS [] has joined #openttd
23:28:19  <JohnUK89> Bjarni: good to see you are impartial :)
23:28:19  <OwenS> Bastard!
23:28:28  <JohnUK89> Oh and I think nickserv has died...
23:28:29  <OwenS> * Bjarni should insert a witty bofh quote here *
23:28:30  <Bjarni> a ban is in effect until declared void
23:28:42  <OwenS> You said NEXT PERSON, not that it was banned
23:29:05  <Bjarni> once JohnUK89 was kicked, you ended up being the next person
23:29:15  <Bjarni> go figure
23:29:20  <Bjarni> it's not that hard to understand
23:29:27  <JohnUK89> Bjarni: impartial as ever ;-)
23:30:30  *** Sacro_ [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd
23:30:34  * OwenS takes a match to those ban signs
23:30:38  *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-247-43.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
23:30:39  *** OwenS is now known as lolman
23:30:41  *** lolman is now known as OwenS
23:30:48  <OwenS> !seen lolman
23:30:49  <DorpsGek> OwenS, lolman ( was last seen changing his/her nick to OwenS on #openttd 7 seconds ago (16.08. 23:30). OwenS is still there.
23:30:54  *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman
23:30:58  *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89
23:31:09  *** OwenS is now known as lolman
23:31:11  *** lolman is now known as OwenS
23:31:13  *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman
23:31:15  *** lolman is now known as JohnUK89
23:31:17  <Bjarni> the next guy to steal the kick from another guy will be banned
23:31:31  <Bjarni> for a whole 5 sec
23:31:37  <OwenS> XP
23:31:41  <JohnUK89> I would ghost you OwenS, but nickserv's dead :)
23:31:58  <Sacro_> JohnUK89: /nick NickServ :P
23:32:16  <Sacro_> double dares ya
23:32:18  <OwenS> I wonder what the ops would do...
23:32:22  <JohnUK89> Sacro: I'm sure I'd get banned off the server for that
23:32:24  *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro
23:32:26  <OwenS> I can imagine
23:32:39  * Sacro hunts for a proxy
23:32:40  <OwenS> * JohnUK89 changes nameto NickServ
23:32:53  <OwenS> * NickServ gets set mode +b by OPNAMEHERE
23:33:00  <JohnUK89> Nah that didn't quite work ;-)
23:33:01  <OwenS> (reason: Impersonating NickServ)
23:33:06  <OwenS> Or whatever...
23:33:13  <OwenS> Tor?
23:33:15  <Sacro> oooh...freeOSzoo :D
23:33:40  <JohnUK89> Sacro: the downloads are slow off there
23:34:11  <Sacro> JohnUK89: who said anything about downloading...
23:34:19  <JohnUK89> Sacro: me :P
23:34:48  * Sacro thinks...
23:35:49  <glx> bad idea :)
23:35:57  <Bjarni> now JohnUK89 and OwenS: go back to your real names
23:36:03  <JohnUK89> What you thinking? Oh...I don't wanna know do I?
23:36:05  <OwenS> We are
23:36:11  <JohnUK89> Bjarni: this is my real name :)
23:36:42  <Bjarni> <-- once again Sacro ended up in a quote
23:37:14  <Sacro> :o agaom
23:37:23  <Sacro> you searched for Bjarni recently ;)
23:37:53  <Bjarni> yeah
23:38:02  <Bjarni> I rule all of the results :D
23:39:53  *** JohnUK89 is now known as lolman
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23:40:07  <Sacro> tum te tum...
23:40:31  *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ
23:40:31  *** mode/#openttd [+o Rubidium] by ChanServ
23:40:34  *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ
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23:40:56  <lolman> yay services are back
23:41:08  <Sacro> pmsl, that was about the time when i first came in here
23:42:36  <Sacro> :o
23:44:26  <SpComb> Logs:
23:44:26  <Sacro> !logs
23:44:31  <Sacro> so i am still here...
23:44:36  <Sacro> now where is everyone else
23:45:06  <OwenS> #openttd2
23:45:07  * Sacro prods Bjarni lolman OwenS
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23:45:18  <lolman> Well I'm still here lol
23:45:20  <Sacro> nope, just me in there
23:46:38  <lolman> Sacro: you FELL for it?
23:46:40  * Sacro moons the channel
23:46:44  <Sacro> fell for waht?
23:46:52  <lolman> #openttd2
23:47:03  <Sacro> errr...nooooooooo
23:47:32  <lolman> [00:45] <Sacro> nope, just me in there
23:47:36  <lolman> Yes you did :P
23:47:40  <OwenS> rofl
23:47:47  <Sacro> [00:49] * OwenS ( has joined #openttd2
23:48:10  <lolman> It's not even 00:49 yet :P
23:48:22  <Sacro> people have been known to move channels and leave me
23:49:18  <lolman> Lol
23:49:27  <lolman> but #openttd2 it plain stupid :)
23:49:31  <lolman> is*
23:49:34  <OwenS> Hehe
23:49:37  <OwenS>  Warning: unlink(/home/.lauper/qvtqht/cacheqdb/quote/46199): No such file or directory in /home/.lauper/qvtqht/ on line 121
23:49:37  <OwenS>
23:49:37  <OwenS>  Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/.lauper/qvtqht/ in /home/.lauper/qvtqht/ on line 2500
23:51:22  *** DaleStan__ [] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]
23:51:36  <OwenS> Oh good, I only appear once on QDB (!kick) and never on Bash
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23:52:38  <Sacro> heh
23:52:46  <Sacro> i appear a few tiems on qdb
23:52:49  <Sacro> not sure about bash
23:52:52  * Sacro goes and looks
23:52:54  <OwenS> I know that already
23:53:08  <OwenS> <Sacro> is paranoia when you keep searching your nick in qdb :S
23:53:09  <OwenS>  <Bjarni> no, but saying stuff like that gives you a good change of getting added
23:53:09  <OwenS> :)
23:53:20  <Sacro> bloody did an all
23:53:31  <Sacro> i blame the dutch!
23:53:39  <Sacro> or the danish...i always get confused
23:54:30  <OwenS> I wish someone needed a Linux benchmarking utility right about now...
23:54:41  <OwenS> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp would be fun
23:54:54  <lolman> Lol
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23:56:20  <Sacro> heh, checkout my benchmarking util on qdb
23:56:31  <OwenS> That was my inspiration
23:56:40  <Sacro> OwenS: cat `yes` > /dev/dsp is cool
23:56:46  <OwenS> That too
23:56:53  <OwenS> yes > /dev/dsp also works
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23:58:07  <lolman> I'm not sure I like the idea of sending garbage to my speakers :)
23:59:28  <lolman> I'm also not sure I should be awake, I need to be up in 6 hours
23:59:30  <Sacro> pmsl, i love getting spam on skype, i always end up chatting to the guy
23:59:35  <OwenS> a=ura;b=d;z=ndo;x=s;y=m;s=p; cat `echo /dev/$a$z$y` > `echo /dev/$b$x$s`

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