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00:00:56 <Sacro> yeah, im shattered an im at work in the morning 00:01:12 <Sacro> also, i haet my familt 00:01:14 <Sacro> *family 00:05:52 <Sacro> night all 00:06:29 <lws1984> gnight 00:07:02 <lws1984> wtf... is with the zcat? 00:08:15 <Sacro> heh, download the gz57 00:08:19 <Sacro> and run it 00:08:26 <Sacro> it'll decompress and display a googolplex 00:08:39 <Sacro> if your feeling really daring, pipe it to a file :P 00:19:59 <Bjarni> o_O 00:20:08 <Bjarni> [02:00] <Sacro> yeah, im shattered an im at work in the morning 00:20:08 <Bjarni> [02:01] <Sacro> also, i haet my familt 00:20:08 <Bjarni> [02:01] <Sacro> *family 00:20:26 * Bjarni fails to see the connection there 00:21:00 <Sacro> +lol 00:21:06 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-152-55.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:24:20 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:33:48 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:41:49 <mikk36> wee :P 00:41:59 <mikk36> works just fine under Vista :D 00:43:30 <mikk36> lol @ American language :D 00:46:25 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 00:47:11 *** Ammler [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Ammler_))] 00:47:17 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 00:49:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-150.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:47 <Belugas_Gone> yay... 01:00:57 <Belugas_Gone> newhouses resurrection! 01:02:33 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:03:55 <tormentum> anyone have any experience in disassembly? 01:05:52 *** tormentum is now known as torm 01:10:33 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 01:13:43 *** Sithik [~sithik@pool-71-161-240-207.sctnpa.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 01:13:45 <Sithik> hey all 01:13:52 <Sithik> glx you around? 01:14:02 <glx> yes 01:14:15 <Sithik> ok, im using stock .4.8 01:14:19 <Sithik> starting in year 2007 01:14:24 <Sithik> worked fine for about 8 months 01:14:28 <Sithik> now im lagging like crazy 01:14:38 <Sithik> 4 AI, and all of the new AI patchs are off 01:15:38 <glx> can you send me savegame and config? 01:16:07 <Sithik> sure, email? or dcc 01:16:12 <glx> dcc 01:16:18 <Sithik> config should be stock though, besides some graphics 01:17:10 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:17:25 *** Ammler is now known as Ammler_pfuus 01:19:37 <Sithik> glx, are save games usually this big? 01:19:38 *** Ammler_pfuus [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:19:40 <Sithik> for only being 8 months? 01:20:08 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 01:22:09 *** Brianetta [~brian@cpc2-bror5-0-0-cust228.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 01:22:33 <Brianetta> 01:23:09 up 81 days, 23:54, 2 users, load average: 19.65, 17.28, 14.12 01:22:33 <Brianetta> oof 01:23:56 <torm> nice! 01:24:15 <torm> makes me wonder how my 233 cyrix is doing... 01:25:33 *** JohnUK89_ [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 01:25:49 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by JohnUK89_))] 01:25:53 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 01:26:14 <torm> greets Jezral 01:26:17 <torm> doh 01:26:20 <torm> greets JohnUK89 :P 01:26:30 <JohnUK89> torm: greets :) 01:26:37 <JohnUK89> What was the URL for simfarm again? 01:26:47 <Jezral> ...roast in a slow fire, you shall, for speaking my name in error. 01:27:09 <torm> JohnUK89: http://slackguy.net/_media/simfarm.tar.gz 01:27:15 <JohnUK89> Cheers :) 01:27:26 <torm> Jezral: my sincerest appologies... spare my nuts 01:27:33 <Jezral> Hehe 01:27:55 <JohnUK89> Downloading now :) 01:28:06 <torm> good good :) 01:28:22 <torm> started disassembling it last night... a LONG way to go tho 01:28:29 <JohnUK89> lol 01:28:42 <torm> fun tho 01:28:42 <JohnUK89> I thought you only got it this afternoon... 01:28:54 <torm> i'm in australia, i got it last night :P 01:28:59 <JohnUK89> Ah ;-) 01:29:12 <JohnUK89> I should pay more notice :-D 01:29:17 <torm> still on 5kbs? 01:29:22 <JohnUK89> Yeah :( 01:29:27 <JohnUK89> I am till the 11th 01:29:31 <torm> dsl or dialup? 01:29:39 <JohnUK89> Neither lol 01:29:42 <JohnUK89> GPRS 01:29:54 <torm> HAHA! no way 01:29:57 <torm> ahh well 01:30:01 <JohnUK89> I kid you not lol 01:30:12 <JohnUK89> check the IP, T-Mobile proxy :) 01:30:22 <torm> my ADSL is shaped till tomorrow... normally 150kbs, currently 5kbs :( 01:30:28 <JohnUK89> Damn :( 01:30:50 <JohnUK89> I'll be on 240-480kbs after i move :-D 01:31:00 <JohnUK89> Depends what my parents shell out for 01:31:07 <torm> heh 01:31:13 <JohnUK89> And I'm hoping I can even tempt them into getting 1200kbs ;-) 01:31:40 <JohnUK89> The beauty of Cable :) 01:32:37 <torm> we just got adsl-2+ in the area... up to 24000k (depending on dist fom exchange) 01:32:46 <torm> and i'm close to the exchange... so tempting 01:32:51 <JohnUK89> kilobits ;-) 01:32:55 <JohnUK89> not kilobytes :) 01:32:58 <torm> but no... i need the $$ elsewhere 01:33:02 <torm> aye 01:33:13 <JohnUK89> so you're looking 3000kbs tops 01:33:21 <JohnUK89> and that's if you're on top of the exchange 01:33:31 *** Brianetta [~brian@cpc2-bror5-0-0-cust228.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 01:33:46 <torm> Tschuss Brianetta :) 01:33:59 <JohnUK89> Of course the cable company over here are rolling out 100Mb next year... 01:34:05 <torm> grr 01:34:15 <torm> aight i g2g, have fun playing :) 01:34:23 <JohnUK89> (something our phone network provider can't match) 01:34:23 <torm> got dosbox alreay installed? 01:34:27 <JohnUK89> Yeah 01:34:34 <torm> coolies... peace out man 01:34:35 <JohnUK89> I#m not long out of bed though lol 01:34:44 <JohnUK89> I'm* 01:34:48 *** torm is now known as torm-afk 01:35:32 <torm-afk> btw, use wget to download if ur on a flakey connection 01:35:42 <JohnUK89> lol 01:35:46 <JohnUK89> It finished 01:35:53 <JohnUK89> But tar won't process it ;-\ 01:35:55 <JohnUK89> :-\* 01:36:16 <torm-afk> fdabcf3d9c12bba3d141bbaa0fb6f67f SimFarm.tar.gz 01:36:19 <JohnUK89> I'll wget it, see if that helps 01:36:21 <torm-afk> (md5) 01:37:03 <JohnUK89> nah it's different, wget time 01:37:13 <torm-afk> lol 01:37:48 <JohnUK89> I'll deal with in the morning UK time :P 01:37:56 <JohnUK89> with it* 01:38:42 <JohnUK89> Cya later :) 01:39:54 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 01:41:01 *** JohnUK89 is now known as JohnUK89|Bed 01:45:38 <mikk36> how cool could it be ? 01:45:46 <mikk36> i'm playing ottd on vista :D 01:46:17 <mikk36> newest win vs pixelgraphics :D 01:48:05 <Sithik> whered you get viata? would love to try it 01:48:34 <Sithik> vista 01:55:55 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 01:59:47 <mikk36> it's the prublic pre-rc1 01:59:54 <mikk36> have to own beta2 key to run it 02:00:02 <mikk36> and downloads are closed now already 02:00:13 <mikk36> only 100k downloads 02:00:23 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:04:51 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:05:10 *** Mucht|zZz [~Mucht@chello080109200215.3.sc-graz.chello.at] has joined #openttd 02:09:31 *** MaulingMonkey [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 02:13:47 <grimrc1> the svn revision is 6250, but rev.c says 6249? 02:14:17 *** guru3_ [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 02:14:17 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:32 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-156-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 02:14:52 *** Sithik [~sithik@pool-71-161-240-207.sctnpa.east.verizon.net] has quit [] 02:15:09 <glx> grimrc1: 6250 is not for trunk :) 02:15:37 <grimrc1> really? I don't get it 02:15:53 <glx> !openttd commit 6250 02:15:54 <_42_> Commit by Darkvater :: r6250 /website/ (style.css templates/nightly.tpl templates/server_detail.tpl) (2006-08-30 23:25:03 UTC) 02:15:56 <_42_> [Website] -Fix some minor things. Typo, unclosed <p> 02:16:07 <grimrc1> oh 02:16:24 <grimrc1> so that's why revision jumps without logs? 02:18:05 <glx> yes, there are logs, but only if you checkout other branchs/dirs/... 02:18:55 <glx> but time to sleep 02:18:57 <glx> gn 02:19:12 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:27:44 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-141-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:50:30 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-141-158.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 02:55:50 *** Zahl22 [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-199-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 03:03:06 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-200-128.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:04:44 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176111120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 03:16:24 *** MaulingMonkey [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:31:50 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 03:55:53 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: sleep.] 04:16:59 *** Zahl22 [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-199-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 04:33:39 <grimrc1> quite hours 04:34:19 <grimrc1> !stats 04:34:20 <_42_> grimrc1: http://devs.openttd.org/~truelight/stats/openttd.html 04:36:09 *** Chillosophy [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 04:36:31 *** Chill|AFK [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 04:36:31 *** Heliospan [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 04:36:59 *** guru3_ [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:45:06 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:46:52 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 04:48:15 *** Chillosophy [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:37 *** Chill|AFK [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:40 *** Heliospan [~b@82-168-219-80.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:49:09 *** Cassac [~cassac@c-186de353.010-13-6f736c3.cust.bredband.no] has quit [] 05:00:40 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B755E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:07:47 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7572B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:10:11 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has joined #openttd 05:25:48 *** Eran- [eran-@garde.fi] has joined #openttd 05:28:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:34:00 *** Cassac [~cassac@c-186de353.010-13-6f736c3.cust.bredband.no] has joined #openttd 05:49:43 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 06:09:54 *** Guest56 [Gono@N805P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 06:10:13 *** torm-afk [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 06:11:17 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:14:53 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N855P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:18:14 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 06:20:42 *** Sionide_ [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust480.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:24:06 *** Sio [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:37:27 <grimrc1> new bugfix: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/317 06:38:28 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 06:39:02 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:41:45 *** exe [dgjk@83.2.70.89] has joined #openttd 06:46:24 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:47:03 <CIA-2> tron * r6251 /trunk/ (rail_cmd.c rail_map.h): Replace 2 bool variables by a simple switch 07:01:38 <CIA-2> tron * r6252 /trunk/station_cmd.c: Replace a comglomerate of ifs for animated station tiles by a small table and a loop iterating over it 07:09:15 <CIA-2> tron * r6253 /trunk/music_gui.c: Comment out code with #if 0, not //. Join statements which needlessly span many lines into fewer lines 07:09:33 *** Sionide_ [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust480.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:14:05 <CIA-2> tron * r6254 /trunk/texteff.c: if () cascade -> switch () 07:19:51 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 07:19:52 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:00 *** Sionide_ [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:23:07 *** roboboy [~leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:23:34 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:23:49 <grimrc1> lo 07:29:41 <CIA-2> tron * r6255 /trunk/ (elrail.c table/elrail_data.h): Simplify drawing of catenary in depots 07:49:41 <CIA-2> tron * r6256 /trunk/viewport.c: if () cascades -> switch () 07:52:31 <CIA-2> tron * r6257 /trunk/gfxinit.c: Use memcmp() to check the MD5 sum instead of using a home brewed loop 07:53:48 <peter1138> morning 08:00:47 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca21c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:00:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:00:59 <exe> 1 08:02:09 *** Ammler [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 08:02:10 <Bjarni> hi people 08:02:54 <peter1138> hello person 08:10:25 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C8B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:11:12 <CIA-2> tron * r6258 /trunk/roadveh_gui.c: Reduce the number of induction variables and inner scopes for clarity 08:13:00 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 08:13:05 <MeusH> hello 08:15:28 <peter1138> all these commits are a pain over dialup ;) 08:16:29 <CIA-2> tron * r6259 /trunk/rail_map.h: Extract the axis directly, don't use a trinary operator 08:19:20 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 08:22:33 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: haha, you have dial... oh wait 08:24:53 <blathijs> Darkvater: Bjarni: As I explained before, NPF misses a few deinit thingies, but if they would be present, they would only be run just before program termination 08:25:07 <blathijs> Darkvater: The init stuff is also only run once at program start 08:26:44 <Tron> blathijs: NPF leaks memory on every game you start/load/join 08:27:07 <blathijs> hmm, that isn't by design ;-) 08:27:35 <Tron> in fact AyStar does 08:27:50 <Tron> Aystar::free is called _nowhere_ 08:28:44 <Bjarni> blathijs: it leaked more memory when I stopped a game and started a new one 08:29:00 <Bjarni> then I had like a mb of leaked memory 08:30:14 <Bjarni> peter1138: we got a secret plan to commit so many new features and fixes that we will overload your modem :P 08:30:19 <peter1138> :( 08:30:33 <peter1138> i have ordered the adsl now, but it could take a while to 'activate' :/ 08:30:41 <peter1138> newgrf can leak a bit too 08:30:48 <peter1138> although it's better than it was 08:30:50 <blathijs> Bjarni: okay, that is a problem... 08:31:13 <peter1138> custom stations aren't cleaned up fully, iirc 08:31:32 <Bjarni> we can live with that 08:31:39 <Bjarni> it's not an urgent matter 08:32:09 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: we ordered adsl *over a month ago* 08:32:20 <Bjarni> blathijs: btw that mb was leaked when making 64x64 maps. I fear larger maps if it is related to number of tiles 08:32:36 <Prof_Frink> today the order status changed to "in progress" 08:33:09 <Bjarni> I ordered ADSL in February and got it in May. They gave me a date for activation from the start though and it could be done faster if I would pay for it 08:33:25 <Bjarni> it was the price for getting a guy to put up a new cable for free 08:33:51 <Bjarni> that and the fact that I could not cancel it in the first 6 months. Not that I would do that anyway 08:33:59 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081B0A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:34:03 <AsterixMG> hi @all 08:34:18 <Bjarni> why do you greet yourself? 08:34:39 <Bjarni> you are included in @all as well :P 08:34:53 <AsterixMG> because im too lazy to type all other names :P 08:35:08 <Bjarni> don't you have tab completion? 08:35:18 <blathijs> Bjarni: I don't thing NPk has anything size-related 08:35:26 <Bjarni> ok 08:35:36 <Prof_Frink> AsterixMG: You could be even more lazy: 08:35:38 <Bjarni> then it's not scary for 2048x2048 maps 08:35:40 <Bjarni> that's good 08:35:42 <AsterixMG> yes, but tab-completing 84 names is still to much work ;) 08:35:42 <Prof_Frink> hi .* 08:36:05 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: no. We don't have . in our names 08:36:08 <Bjarni> it could be 08:36:10 <Bjarni> hi * 08:36:33 * peter1138 slaps Bjarni with a regex 08:36:38 * Prof_Frink slaps Bjarni around a bit with na regex 08:36:38 <CIA-2> tron * r6260 /trunk/video/cocoa_v.m: Improve readability 08:37:04 <Prof_Frink> heh, peter1138's dialup is better than mine 08:37:13 * Bjarni wonders if the last commit will clash with the patch for improving that file 08:37:30 <Bjarni> it's being rewritten and will hopefully be done this week 08:37:30 <peter1138> Prof_Frink: no, i'm just at work 08:38:42 <Prof_Frink> gi's a job then 08:38:44 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:39:50 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 08:50:24 *** mucht_ [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has joined #openttd 08:50:25 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:53:56 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-514f9383.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:57:13 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 09:00:28 *** MaulingMonkey [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 09:06:20 <torm> anyone here worked with SDL.NET? (ie: SDL with C# instead of C) 09:07:52 <Bjarni> in case you didn't notice, we don't code in C# :P 09:07:59 <Bjarni> and we don't plan to do so 09:08:02 <torm> oh i know htat :) 09:08:32 <Bjarni> try something like #C# or something 09:08:33 <torm> i know C# tho and wanna have a play with sdl... just have a few Q's for the lucky person who has already done this 09:08:49 <Bjarni> I think you came to the wrong channel 09:09:01 <torm> lol 09:09:09 <torm> nah... just a random Q... is all 09:09:17 <torm> back to OTTd then :) 09:09:23 <Bjarni> Q is not in this channel either 09:09:32 <Bjarni> you have to go to quakenet to see him 09:09:36 <Bjarni> :P 09:09:51 <torm> i fucking hate you. 09:09:53 <torm> :P 09:10:04 *** Osai is now known as Osai^city 09:10:30 <torm> now THATS something i havnt watched recently... Red vs Blue 09:10:51 <Bjarni> and I hate the false C and it's followers, so the feeling is mutual :P 09:11:03 <torm> lol 09:11:13 <torm> u mean the Java ripoff? :P 09:11:43 <Bjarni> C#, Java whatever 09:11:59 <Bjarni> we all know that real software is written in C/C++/Objective C 09:12:32 <Rubidium> what about Cobol? 09:12:53 <Bjarni> that's ok if you like a retro feeling 09:13:07 <Bjarni> so it's kind of like the same reason why people use C64 emulators 09:13:49 <torm> well i've learned C, C++ and Java... next logical step... the language that combines the best of all 3 :) 09:13:59 <Prof_Frink> what about brainfuck? 09:14:16 <Prof_Frink> better still, fuckfuck 09:14:25 <Rubidium> torm: that cannot be C# ;) 09:14:34 <torm> HAHA 09:15:34 <peter1138> C# is nice 09:15:45 <peter1138> it's like C, but object oriented, heh 09:15:58 <torm> peter1138: finally! someone else in my camp :) 09:16:39 <Bjarni> that's because he uses a modem. He don't have the online time and bandwidth to follow up on what C# really is 09:16:45 <Rubidium> ofcourse that is my opinion ;) but C, C++ and Java can be compiled with GCC, C# cannot 09:17:05 <peter1138> it can be compiled with (g)mcs though 09:17:30 <torm> Rubidium: not for long... work in progress :) 09:18:26 <torm> Rubidium: http://gcc-cil.blogspot.com/2005/06/hello-world.html (old i know but meh) 09:20:51 <peter1138> heh 09:20:51 <Zavior> Meh daddy can write cobol :O 09:20:54 <Zavior> Thats like ancient 09:21:45 <AsterixMG> well, i learned a bit cobol some years back too, perhaps i even have the notes from back then somwhere :) 09:23:03 <Rubidium> torm: that project probably had a silent death, cannot find anything on the gcc website of it 09:23:27 <Bjarni> reminds me of an app I heard of. In the 70s, some guys coded an app to estimate the most likely outcome of football matches based on an average of what all the newspapers guessed. It should be a sure way to win money... they did win once in a while but when they won, it was because the matches were so sure that a whole lot of people won and then the prices didn't cover the costs :P 09:23:31 <Bjarni> nice idea though 09:23:59 <Bjarni> specially since it was in the days where almost nobody used computers 09:24:25 <Bjarni> I think they wrote it in cobol, but I'm not sure 09:27:58 <Darkvater> o_O 09:28:08 <Darkvater> Bjarni: did you even TEST your COMMITS at all? 09:29:24 <Darkvater> crash-recipe: open a competitor's vehicle list || resize the vehicle list window || change players with a cheat 09:29:37 <Darkvater> and that is only after about 2 minutes of the most BASIC testing 09:29:59 <Bjarni> hmm 09:30:16 <Bjarni> I always forget about that stupid change player cheat 09:30:18 <Darkvater> hmm allright 09:30:29 <Zavior> Just remove the cheat! D 09:30:33 <Bjarni> yeah 09:30:39 <Darkvater> and you also forget opening other player's vehicle lists or resizing the window? 09:30:40 <Bjarni> that's my solution :P 09:30:56 <Zavior> Who would want to play ai's company :s 09:31:19 <Bjarni> Darkvater: you did try the newest revision, right? 09:32:13 <Darkvater> or that the tooltips for widgets are totally wrong 09:32:31 <Darkvater> well if you want to tell me that changing cocoa_v.m fixes all these things then I am wrong 09:33:24 * Darkvater needs to cool down a bit 09:33:25 <Darkvater> bbl 09:34:14 <grimrc1> I've put a third patch on flyspray; it's a zoom bug-fix 09:34:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CDE3.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:36:29 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 09:38:52 <MeusH> Darkvater, let's measure! 09:40:17 <MeusH> oh noes, he's out :p 09:40:27 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6261 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Fix r6246: fixed sprite related crash related to other player's vehicle list windows (spotted by Darkvater) 09:40:33 <Bjarni> that should do it 09:40:46 <mucht_> did you test? :-P 09:40:50 <Bjarni> yes 09:40:51 *** mucht_ is now known as Mucht|work 09:42:01 <Bjarni> it was related to the fact that player's window and other_player's window don't have the same number of widgets :( 09:42:37 <Bjarni> if this happens again, I might kill the other_player's window and use the player window for all of them and disable the buttons instead of not drawing them 09:42:44 <Bjarni> like like say if you click on a train 09:42:52 <MeusH> <yes> 09:42:54 <Bjarni> much easier to keep bug free 09:43:32 *** Osai^city is now known as Osai 09:44:32 *** Patrick` [~pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:44:34 <AsterixMG> hmm, forum down? 09:45:05 <grimrc1> MeusH: did you manage to fix grub? 09:45:10 <Bjarni> AsterixMG: works here 09:45:51 <AsterixMG> ah, now it works (3rd retry :/ ) 09:46:17 <MeusH> grimrc1, I couldn't acces my HDD from LiveCD 09:46:24 <MeusH> there was a /dev/hda directory 09:46:25 <grimrc1> :o( 09:46:32 <MeusH> I saw it with "ls" command 09:46:37 <MeusH> but cd hda didn't work 09:46:46 <MeusH> it said it is invalid or doesn't exist 09:50:15 <peter1138> that is not a directory 09:50:21 <peter1138> it's a device node 09:50:34 <Bjarni> Ran into problems sending Mail. Response: 451 Temporary local problem - please try later 09:50:47 <Bjarni> that explains why the forum failed to send me mails all day 09:51:10 <MeusH> peter1138, so how can I acces it? 09:51:14 <MeusH> shall I mount it somewhere? 09:51:26 <peter1138> yes 09:51:41 <peter1138> but you probably want hda1 or something 09:51:47 <peter1138> as hda is the whole disk 09:52:52 *** Patrick` [~pitt2@i-195-137-14-213.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:47 <MeusH> I don't know much about linux partitions, I'd like to gain acces to my linux partition with grub config 09:56:12 *** Tron_ [WW7cO0CT@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:56:30 <grimrc1> mkdir -p /hd/hdaX for all X you need 09:57:03 <MeusH> what does -p do? 09:58:01 <grimrc1> makes the parent directories if they don't exist already (and /hd/ won't exist yet) 09:58:01 *** Tron_ [WW7cO0CT@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has left #openttd [] 09:58:06 *** Tron_ [WW7cO0CT@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:58:06 <grimrc1> mkdir --help 09:58:21 *** Tron_ [WW7cO0CT@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [] 09:58:23 *** Tron_ [OCq0QZSL@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:58:41 <grimrc1> fdisk -l /dev/hda will list partitions on hda, though hda sounds like it's probably your windows drive so you need the linux hdX 09:58:50 <grimrc1> fdisk --help too 09:59:08 *** zcram [~zcram@88.196.155.96] has joined #openttd 10:05:26 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 10:06:03 <MeusH> grimrc1, I was doing it all the time 10:06:07 <MeusH> but it didn't work 10:06:18 <MeusH> it returned nothing 10:06:27 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:28 <MeusH> it just created next line I could type in 10:06:37 <grimrc1> what returned nothing? 10:06:41 <MeusH> just like if you were pressing enter all the time 10:06:48 <MeusH> fdisk -l /dev/hdX 10:06:52 <grimrc1> oh 10:07:33 <grimrc1> maybe your fdisk command is different and has a different format? 10:07:38 <grimrc1> for options I mean 10:07:45 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:07:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:14:49 <CIA-2> tron * r6262 /trunk/video/win32_v.c: Remove unused #define and function declaration 10:16:50 <MeusH> well I don't know 10:16:58 <MeusH> but I'm sure there were problems going to dev/hda 10:17:30 <grimrc1> oh :o( 10:19:52 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7709D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:21:08 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 10:21:42 <MeusH> so how could I acces my HDD with LiveCD? 10:22:39 <grimrc1> dmesg | less -S --- the kernel should say something about detecting your hard drives (the liveCD kernel of course) 10:26:57 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B755E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> in such cases, a GUI is definitely the better choice... 10:34:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... my network connection is wonky... 10:34:21 <Faux> Need a spirit-level? 10:34:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> a what? 10:35:03 <CIA-2> miham * r6263 /trunk/lang/ (6 files): (log message trimmed) 10:35:03 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-08-31 12:34:27 10:35:03 <CIA-2> dutch - 4 fixed by habell (4) 10:35:03 <CIA-2> french - 4 fixed, 4 changed by glx (8) 10:35:03 <CIA-2> german - 4 fixed by Neonox (4) 10:35:05 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 10:35:05 <CIA-2> polish - 4 fixed by meush (4) 10:35:05 <CIA-2> portuguese - 11 fixed, 17 changed by izhirahider (19), nars (9) 10:35:07 <MeusH> grimrc1, and what later? 10:35:30 <grimrc1> MeusH: do you see a kernel report saying 'detected hda hdb etc.' or something like that? 10:35:49 <MeusH> well I'm not on linux right now 10:35:53 <MeusH> I'm working on something 10:35:57 <MeusH> but I'll switch soon 10:36:01 <grimrc1> mine says: hda: Maxtor 53073H6, ATA DISK drive 10:36:18 <grimrc1> it doesn't list the partitions though 10:36:26 <AsterixMG> hmm, did miham kill svn? 10:36:41 <grimrc1> oh actually, it *does* list the partitions: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 < hda5 hda6 hda7 > hda4 10:36:49 <AsterixMG> or is it just my comp that can't connect to svn 10:37:04 <CIA-2> tron * r6264 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: Get rid of a cast 10:37:13 <grimrc1> mine updates AsterixMG 10:37:39 <AsterixMG> damn, i only get timeout :( 10:38:08 <grimrc1> I'm up to r6264 now 10:38:10 <Tron_> orudge: your servers just died 10:39:43 <AsterixMG> grimrc1, what server do you use? svn.openttd.org? 10:40:29 <grimrc1> yep 10:41:07 <AsterixMG> then why doesn't my shitty comp want to connect *grmbl* 10:41:41 <grimrc1> can you ping openttd.org? 10:42:15 <Tron_> openttd.org != svn.openttd.org 10:42:42 <grimrc1> yeah, but when I ping svn. I get reply from openttd.org 10:42:55 <grimrc1> PING svn.openttd.org (81.171.98.110) 56(84) bytes of data. 10:42:55 <grimrc1> 64 bytes from openttd.org (81.171.98.110): icmp_seq=1 ttl=52 time=24.8 ms 10:43:07 <AsterixMG> ping gets timeout, too, but it resolves the name 10:43:21 <AsterixMG> so DNS seems ok 10:43:21 <Tron_> hmhm, the issue seems a bit more netwide 10:43:22 <SpComb> is yoda still down? 10:43:30 <SpComb> although, openttd isn't on yoda anymore, is it+ 10:43:31 <Tron_> from here at uni i can't connect to tt-forums.net 10:43:34 <Tron_> from at home i can 10:43:42 <grimrc1> it seems to be in the Netherlands according to traceroute; I'm in the UK and get an excellent connection (23ms ping) 10:43:46 <AsterixMG> :/ 10:43:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> i can't ping either 10:44:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i have problems with quakenet... 10:44:30 <Tron_> uh, no, the other way round, here at uni tt-forums works, from at home not 10:44:40 <Rubidium> that sounds like some peering problem 10:45:06 <SpComb> terom@zapotek:~$ nslookup munki.org 10:45:06 <SpComb> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached 10:45:07 <Tron_> Level3 seems to make trouble 10:45:15 <AsterixMG> tracert stops somewhere after Amsterdam 10:45:19 <SpComb> sigh, it's been down for a while hasn't it? Or is this somehting more serious? 10:46:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> and now i dropped out of ICQ also... 10:46:30 <Tron_> traffic from here at uni gets routed over eweka.nl, which works 10:46:51 <AsterixMG> well, at least its not my comp making the problems, but i would have liked to know if current svn works with my patch :) 10:48:49 <SpComb> interesting, are the internets broken? D: 10:49:06 <SpComb> traceroute to openttd.org reaches the end 10:50:41 <SpComb> helsinki - stockholm - amsterdam - eweka - colo (openttd) 10:51:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm getting all weird output... 10:51:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> what does traceroute mean when saying "send failed: No buffer space available" 10:53:17 <AsterixMG> my traceroute goes Frankfurt-Amsterdam-unknown.level3.net-*-*-*... :/ 10:53:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i get similar 10:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... interesting... i cannot ping from inside the university... 10:55:44 *** JohnUK89|Bed is now known as JohnUK89 10:56:17 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:00:23 <SpComb> Eddi|zuHause3: something's borked with your computer... `free -m` 11:01:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> total used free shared buffers cached 11:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> Mem: 504 497 6 0 35 121 11:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> -/+ buffers/cache: 340 163 11:01:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> Swap: 1023 208 815 11:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> that sounds not strange to me... 11:02:35 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:14 <Nigel> Eddi|zuHause3, try rebooting the terminal? 11:06:38 <grimrc1> telinit 1 then telinit current_runlevel 11:06:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... 11:07:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> what does that do? 11:07:16 <Nigel> Eddi|zuHause3, it should freshen everything up 11:07:22 <grimrc1> that goes to single user mode (shutting down loads of services) 11:07:28 <grimrc1> then you can bring it out again 11:07:40 <grimrc1> it'd shut xserver though 11:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't feel like doing that right now... 11:08:25 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:00 <grimrc1> kexec looks quite exciting; it lets the kernel restart without fully rebooting the computer, so it can run a new kernel or some other program/kernel 11:09:07 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:13 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:09:16 <grimrc1> it's experimental 11:10:12 <grimrc1> all we need now is a fully modular kernel and you should be able to update the kernel fully without rebooting 11:10:53 <Maedhros> does it work on anything that isn't x86 yet? 11:10:57 <grimrc1> perpetual Linux hehe 11:11:19 <grimrc1> Maedhros: I don't even know if it works on x86 yet; I just saw the option when I installed 2.6.18-rc4 11:11:39 <Maedhros> fair enough :) 11:11:48 <grimrc1> I'm not that ricey 11:12:41 <grimrc1> a good feature would be to be able to unload statically compiled modules 11:12:48 *** zcram [~zcram@88.196.155.96] has quit [Quit: And off he went.] 11:13:45 <grimrc1> that would have been useful in the ide-scsi days, when you sometimes needed to use different modules to run your ide-cd to do different things 11:17:34 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: bye] 11:17:41 <ln-> http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/060829roswell.htm 11:18:33 <CIA-2> tron * r6265 /trunk/elrail.c: Check whether to draw catenary at all once before the drawing loop instead of on every iteration 11:19:37 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5A4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:23:57 <Maedhros> haha, that article's great 11:24:25 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org] 11:24:40 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Au reviour!] 11:25:08 <CIA-2> tron * r6266 /trunk/smallmap_gui.c: Replace four shifts by a single multiplication and let the compiler handle what to do with it - it does a better job 11:25:47 <Bjarni> nice 11:26:02 <Bjarni> now they really do have aliens in Roswell 11:26:08 <Bjarni> who would have thought that :D 11:26:31 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:27:28 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:19 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, something for you to look at when you have time: http://mitglied.lycos.de/kuttler/ottd/BuildVehicleList_3.diff 11:34:11 <Tron_> AsterixMG: first there are several bugs to fix in the current code 11:35:19 *** hu8 [~hu8@M907P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> while (!bug_free(code)) { fix(next_bug(code)) } 11:37:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have a strange feeling that this code does not terminate ;) 11:39:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> (especially under the assumption: "fixing one bug creates two new ones" [derived from murphy's law]) 11:40:36 *** hu8 [~hu8@M907P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Bye!] 11:41:22 <AsterixMG> Tron_, i did not say he should include it immediately, but comment on it ;) 11:42:18 <CIA-2> tron * r6267 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: Simplify the control flow in the rail tile loop by eliminating a bool flag and replacing it by a simple goto 11:42:43 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 11:43:13 <AsterixMG> replacing something by a GOTO?????? 11:43:29 <AsterixMG> i thought goto is bad style :) 11:43:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> i do not find words for what i am feeling right now :p 11:45:26 <Zavior> Just say le blaa 11:45:29 <Zavior> Le blaa! 11:45:32 <MeusH> ln-, do you know more about that article? Did someone hack into that website and wrote that? Or is is some kind of Easter egg made by goverment people themselves? 11:46:42 <Darkvater> eh 11:46:53 <Darkvater> an alien is also someone from another country 11:46:59 <Darkvater> doesn't have to be extra-terrestial 11:47:18 <Zavior> Le blaa, alines 11:50:02 <MeusH> ahh, I see, jokes :) 11:50:06 <MeusH> thanks DV 11:52:24 <Maedhros> some gotos are bad style, e.g. station_cmd.c:1133, some are just strange, e.g. players.c:447, but they can be useful ;) 11:52:24 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 11:56:40 <eQualizer> http://www.openttd.org/screens.php?image=images/screens/0.4.7/arctic_scenery <-- PBS in 0.4.7? 11:57:21 <peter1138> heh 11:57:27 <peter1138> some of them are not actually 0.4.7, heh 11:57:39 <Darkvater> well only that one ;p 11:57:44 <Darkvater> lemme fix that right up 11:57:48 * Darkvater boots photoshop 11:58:09 <Darkvater> perhaps the ukrs isn't 0.4.7 either 11:58:14 <Darkvater> but it has been there for ages ;p 11:58:17 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@85.119.91.2] has joined #openttd 11:59:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> does 0.4.x have a newgrf readme? 12:03:53 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:03:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:15:52 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 12:16:40 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176111120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:19:35 <CIA-2> tron * r6268 /trunk/rail_cmd.c: Remove now pointless assignment (followup of r6267) 12:20:00 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:20:33 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:31:48 <Smoky555> peter1138: hi 12:33:33 <Smoky555> can i get somewhere your patch about rail_bridges under daig.rails, another bridges, etc. ? 12:35:21 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/GenerateVehicleSortList.diff <-- comments please. I have splitted out the window vehicle list generation to a function of it's own so goto depot also can call it with the same arguments and get the same list 12:35:40 <Bjarni> useful for all the planned "do for all vehicles in list" stuff 12:36:18 <Bjarni> specially the commands where you can transfer the arguments instead of all the vehicle indexes (or duplicating code) 12:37:20 <Darkvater> how about fixing the bugs first for the current features? 12:37:41 <Rubidium> + } break; 12:37:53 <Rubidium> that's not according to the codingstyle on the wiki 12:38:29 <Bjarni> it was the last time I wrote switches 12:38:54 *** Borgi [~borgi@dsl5402D9BF.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 12:38:57 <Borgi> hey 12:39:00 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> how about fixing the bugs first for the current features? <-- what bugs? I already solved the crash you found earlier 12:39:07 <Rubidium> it isn't since yesterday 12:40:09 <Bjarni> well, when I wrote that switch less than a week ago, it was according to the standard. Now that I moved it (I didn't edit it, only moved it), it's wrong 12:40:12 <Bjarni> :s 12:40:24 <Zavior> Le blaa! 12:40:25 <Darkvater> 11:30 <@Darkvater> and you also forget opening other player's vehicle lists or resizing the window? 12:40:39 <Darkvater> and your indentation is horribly off 12:40:57 <Darkvater> I really wonder if you actually read your diff before you chuck it in 12:41:08 <Bjarni> !openttd commit 6246 12:41:09 <_42_> Commit by bjarni :: r6246 /trunk/ (7 files) (2006-08-30 21:39:01 UTC) 12:41:10 <Hadez> Is OpenTTD icon artist over here? I'd like to use his work (the one used as a favicon on the website) in my server status icons... 12:41:11 <_42_> -Feature: added the many times requested "send all vehicle to depot" button 12:41:13 <_42_> it's located in the vehicle list screen and does the same as in the shared orders window (send all vehicles in list to a depot) 12:41:15 <_42_> it will still not inform the player if a vehicle failed to find a depot, so don't take for granted that all of them go 12:41:24 <Bjarni> oops 12:41:27 <Bjarni> wrong number 12:41:32 <Bjarni> !openttd commit 6261 12:41:33 <_42_> Commit by bjarni :: r6261 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c (2006-08-31 09:40:10 UTC) 12:41:35 <_42_> -Fix r6246: fixed sprite related crash related to other player's vehicle list windows (spotted by Darkvater) 12:42:32 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:42:54 <Darkvater> Bjarni: and that fixes the resize window crash in which way? 12:43:05 <Darkvater> Hadez: it was dominik, haven't seen him for over a year 12:44:07 <Hadez> Would he mind if I did this? The only modification is a grayscale version in off-line icon. 12:44:17 <Bjarni> hmm 12:44:27 * Bjarni wonders what happened to resizing 12:44:35 <Bjarni> I will look at it after lunch 12:44:39 <Bjarni> bbl 12:45:06 <Darkvater> Hadez: he would probably want royalities ;p 12:45:12 <Born_Acorn> yay! Send all vehicles to Depots! 12:45:12 <Darkvater> Hadez: no, don't think he would mind 12:45:29 <AsterixMG> resizing what windows crashes for you, Darkvater ? 12:46:02 <Hadez> I know, thanks. Just so you know we chose his work :-) 12:48:19 <Darkvater> vehicle list 12:48:43 <AsterixMG> regardless which? i dont get any crashes from that 12:49:17 <AsterixMG> but there is something wrong with resizeing, as the screen doesn't get refreshed correctly for me 12:49:18 <Darkvater> just keep resizing up&down&up&down 12:49:27 <Darkvater> it's totally fubared 12:49:46 * Darkvater doesn't know what bjarni is smoking when he's writing patches 12:49:57 <Zavior> Mushrooms! 12:50:10 <AsterixMG> oh, yeah, if i do it often enough it crashes :) 12:50:28 <Tron_> at some point the line height gets 0 12:50:31 <Tron_> and dividing by it ... 12:50:39 <AsterixMG> yeah :) 12:59:35 *** Ammler [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:42 <roboboy> gnight 13:04:18 *** roboboy [~leo@c211-30-119-166.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:06:28 *** BruceMuggins [~BruceMugg@82.114.186.43] has joined #openttd 13:09:36 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:10:17 *** BruceMuggins [~BruceMugg@82.114.186.43] has left #openttd [] 13:13:33 <AsterixMG> hmmm... i don't understand why it fixes it, but it does :) 13:15:12 <Bjarni> back 13:15:27 <Bjarni> and I think I know why the resizing can go wrong 13:15:40 <Bjarni> even though it's odd that it would react that way 13:17:27 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 13:19:42 <Darkvater> what is the inconsistency between list-company-trains and list-station-trains? 13:19:56 <Darkvater> is there some magic why I can send the first to the depot and the second not? 13:20:25 <glx> not the same window 13:20:31 <Darkvater> so? 13:20:53 <glx> the "send to depot" is not in all list yet 13:21:01 <Darkvater> shared-orders-window isn't the same window either, yet it works there 13:21:23 <Darkvater> (although the disabled?? why?? 'replace vehicles' button says nothing, but the tooltip says to replace) 13:21:31 <Darkvater> *mess* 13:23:08 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:24:40 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 13:27:05 *** exe [dgjk@83.2.70.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 13:27:45 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 13:28:36 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 13:29:10 * Bjarni kicks CIA-2 13:29:11 <CIA-2> ow 13:29:25 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6269 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Fix r6240: fixed incorrect row count in vehicle lists when resizing to smaller windows (AsterixMG) 13:29:32 <Bjarni> Darkvater: here you go 13:30:19 <Bjarni> turned out to be that the "clever" compiler decided that the result had to be unsigned because one of the vars was usigned. Now it's signed so it can remove rows again 13:34:03 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> is there some magic why I can send the first to the depot and the second not? <-- yeah, I want to commit that diff I requested comments for before in order to make clean code for the station goto depot as well. It have yet to be coded, but I don't want to duplicate a whole lot of code to make it 13:34:05 <CIA-2> tron * r6270 /trunk/ (29 files in 3 dirs): Remove the "unsorted" vehicle sorter, because it's plain useless 13:34:14 <Tron_> Bjarni: the C standard mandates this 13:34:56 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 13:36:03 *** Cassac [~cassac@c-186de353.010-13-6f736c3.cust.bredband.no] has quit [] 13:36:24 <Bjarni> yeah, I know... but didn't really think about it until it caused problems 13:37:27 <CIA-2> tron * r6271 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: Remove stale comment 13:38:03 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 13:40:15 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:44:58 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> and your indentation is horribly off <-- looks just fine here 13:48:04 <Darkvater> oh really? check again 13:48:28 <peter1138> where abouts? 13:48:43 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/GenerateVehicleSortList.diff 13:48:52 <Darkvater> not there, in SVN 13:49:23 <Bjarni> oh 13:49:38 <Bjarni> that could explain why I failed to find what you were talking about 13:50:05 <Darkvater> you should really have second look(s) at what you write cause right now it is *very* subpar 13:50:14 <Darkvater> and I've expressed myself mildly 13:51:16 <Bjarni> you are talking about PlayerVehWndProc(), right? 13:51:35 <Bjarni> it always help if we talk about the same piece of code 13:52:55 <Darkvater> yes 13:53:51 <peter1138> i see it 13:53:57 <Bjarni> just looked though all of it 13:54:00 <Bjarni> looks ok to me 13:54:21 <izhirahider> If I may leave a suggestion, you could change the patches dialog box to have a single row of buttons (Interface, Construction, Vehicles, Stations, Economy, Opponents). This would leave more space to the window contents that are overlapping in some languages. 13:54:32 *** MeusH_ [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has joined #openttd 13:54:40 <peter1138> Bjarni: line 1329 13:54:41 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:54:42 <peter1138> etc 13:56:11 *** MeusH_ is now known as MeusH 13:56:32 <Bjarni> if (v->string_id != STR_SV_TRAIN_NAME) { 13:56:33 <Bjarni> SetDParam(0, v->string_id); 13:56:35 <Bjarni> DrawString(x + 21, y, STR_01AB, 0); 13:56:37 <Bjarni> } 13:56:39 <Bjarni> looks ok to me 13:56:41 <Bjarni> hmm 13:56:50 <peter1138> you could do with an editor that visible distinguishes spaces & tabs, too 13:57:03 <Bjarni> IRC+tabs = not a good visual experience 13:57:15 <peter1138> Bjarni: it's too far right 13:57:47 <Bjarni> it is? 13:57:52 <Bjarni> hmm 13:58:01 <Bjarni> I thought this is what it should look like 13:58:27 <Tron_> if (IsShipInDepot(v)) str = STR_021F; 13:58:27 <Tron_> if (v->string_id != STR_SV_SHIP_NAME) { 13:58:32 <peter1138> ding 13:58:35 <hylje> zomg 13:59:16 <Darkvater> .. 14:01:38 <peter1138> woo, got an installation date for adsl 14:01:38 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6272 /trunk/lang/ (23 files): 14:01:38 <CIA-2> -Revert the colour-mess in the vehicle window. Servicing depot destinations 14:01:38 <CIA-2> have the same colour as always, if the vehicle goes to stop inside the depot 14:01:38 <CIA-2> the colour is red, as it was. 14:01:38 <CIA-2> -Tooltip windows should be somewhat short, not a whole essay. 14:03:30 <Bjarni> Darkvater: why did you do that without even telling me? 14:04:24 <Tron_> Darkvater: thanks for not needlessly breaking all languages (: 14:05:06 <hylje> Darkvater: thanks anyway! 14:05:16 <Bjarni> Darkvater: you better revert since now you can't tell "goto depot and stop" from "goto depot and service before leaving again right away" 14:05:33 <hylje> you couldnt tell before? 14:05:44 <scia> I thought it was a nice new feature :) 14:05:49 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, which ISP did you go for? 14:06:01 <Bjarni> oh wait, you made the whole string red 14:06:08 <Bjarni> but why? 14:06:17 <peter1138> cos it looked shit as multiple colours 14:07:02 <hylje> so you dont approve of rainbow colors? 14:07:02 <peter1138> like some kind of screen of teletext, heh 14:07:18 <peter1138> colours are great 14:07:21 <Born_Acorn> pffft teletext is soooo ninetees 14:08:09 <hylje> yes the rest of the world uses television 14:08:12 <peter1138> "Heading for {TOWN} Train Depot for service" 14:08:33 <Bjarni> not possible. I tried that 14:08:39 <peter1138> too long? 14:08:39 <Bjarni> the string became too long for the window 14:08:40 <peter1138> heh 14:09:06 <Bjarni> we can add 0 chars because with long town names, it's already a bit too long 14:09:15 <Bjarni> that's why I added the colours instead 14:09:17 <hylje> :| 14:10:04 *** Guest56 [Gono@N752P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:10:16 <Bjarni> and why should the tooltip about what the colours mean be removed? 14:10:17 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N805P001.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:31 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:42 <Tron_> "Servicing at {TOWN} train depot" 14:10:43 <peter1138> because the colours are different 14:10:46 <Bjarni> "hey, I got a great idea. Let's remove the text that tells the users how to use the features we code" 14:11:00 <hylje> and talking about colors.. what about filters for map? 14:11:18 <hylje> its a pain to check where the, say, coal mines are when you cant filter the rest out from it 14:12:10 <CIA-2> tron * r6273 /trunk/settings_gui.c: Clean up the custom currency window handler a bit 14:13:24 <Bjarni> actually I think the worst thing about this is that Darkvater commits in something I'm working on because he disagrees, but he never said anything and now he is just idle 14:13:46 * Bjarni wonders how Darkvater would react to such a treatment 14:14:24 <Darkvater> I would react that I was right and you was correct 14:14:38 <Darkvater> goto depot (service) is normal colour (blue) as it was 14:14:48 <Bjarni> I can see what you did 14:14:51 <Darkvater> goto depot (and stop) is red just like when you press the 'stop' button 14:15:07 <Darkvater> what you did there is horrendeous, turning the windows into some kind of toyland 14:15:18 * Bjarni disagrees 14:15:24 <hylje> toyland? whats wrong with it 14:15:33 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 14:15:47 <Darkvater> tooltips shortly (note the SHORT part) tells the user what the button does. If he/she wants more information the manual/wiki is to be read 14:16:53 <Bjarni> and do you trust people to do that? 14:16:59 <Bjarni> besides I didn't add it to the wiki 14:17:07 <Darkvater> that's their problem 14:17:27 <Darkvater> the tooltip says what click says and what CTRL+click says. Even without a manual you can figure it out 14:17:48 <hylje> and whats the status on hotkey tooltips 14:17:49 <Darkvater> perhaps I should've told you before I did it, yes 14:17:51 <Darkvater> agree with that 14:18:04 <hylje> its a pain to learn hotkeys as it is 14:18:24 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 14:19:23 <Bjarni> I see the red line as full stop (as the vehicle will stop right away). It kind of conflicts with the fact that it might drive for a long time before reaching the depot 14:19:53 <Darkvater> if the vehicle is stopping it says 'stopping [<speed>]' 14:20:03 <hylje> gradually "redden" the text? :D 14:20:19 <hylje> (although i doubt they store the distance..) 14:20:26 <Bjarni> I know that 14:21:00 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:03 <Bjarni> but until today, the only completely red lines were "stopping", "crashed", "broken down" and "No power" 14:21:06 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 14:21:16 <Darkvater> and your mr rainbow 14:21:25 <Bjarni> somehow I don't think "stopping in a depot in a while" fits those 14:21:35 <hylje> when does "No power" come into account? 14:21:43 <hylje> the trains cant get into unpowered territory 14:21:46 <Bjarni> oh, forgot "stopped", but it doesn't change anything 14:22:15 <Bjarni> <hylje> when does "No power" come into account? <-- if you decide to use diesel to pull an electric engine into a depot without catenary and make an electric train out of it 14:22:23 *** Ammler is now known as Ammler_ 14:22:25 <hylje> k 14:22:27 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 14:22:29 <Bjarni> I don't know why people would do that, but the game catches this condition 14:22:36 <hylje> idiotproof i c 14:22:55 <Tron_> "Servicing at {TOWN} train depot" --- "Heading for {TOWN} train depot" 14:22:57 <Bjarni> we actually got a bug report 14:23:18 <Bjarni> for the fact that the electric train could start and very slowly move 14:23:28 <hylje> hah 14:23:30 <peter1138> yeah well 14:23:34 <peter1138> the driver got out and pushed 14:23:36 <Bjarni> but not leave the depot tile, so it just turned around and entered again 14:23:54 <hylje> like if you made train wagons locos and started them 14:24:01 <hylje> (with no HP they move but rly slowly) 14:24:50 <Bjarni> ohh, reminds me of a story I once heard. A locomotive had a breakdown and to avoid blocking the switch, the train crew had to push it 10 meters 14:25:05 <Bjarni> it's actually possible 14:27:32 <hylje> rail's closed 14:29:14 <Bjarni> no I mean the force needed to push a railcar/locomotive is not greater than a few people can do it 14:29:20 <Bjarni> in some cases only one is needed 14:29:41 <hylje> yep 14:30:37 <hylje> a wheeled vehicle on a steel-on-steel environment 14:30:43 <hylje> cant get much more efficient 14:33:59 <Born_Acorn> If one dude can pull a 747, a group could push a train. 14:34:22 <MeusH> yeah, the Pudzian xD 14:43:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:46 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:47:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> in the german TV show "Wetten, daß..!?" some guy pushed a tram wagon just by a spear pointed at his throat 14:47:07 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:39 *** TronBSD [~tron@p54A3E0BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:47:45 *** jonty-comp [bottage@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:49:35 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D462.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:17 <CIA-2> tron * r6274 /trunk/video/win32_v.c: Clean up a bit 14:51:52 <CIA-2> tron * r6275 /trunk/network_server.h: Get rid of an ugly cast 14:54:26 <CIA-2> tron * r6276 /trunk/network_gui.c: Remove a redundant assignment 15:02:34 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 15:04:10 <peter1138> starving 15:04:16 <peter1138> i should've had a lunch break 15:07:26 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.147.227] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:12:21 *** e1ko [~31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:14:36 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 15:15:49 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-199-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:33 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 15:18:36 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 15:18:45 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:08 <CIA-2> tron * r6277 /trunk/train_gui.c: Clean up the train details drawing routine 15:22:46 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6278 /trunk/lang/ (23 files): 15:22:46 <CIA-2> -Revert the colour-mess in the vehicle window for ships, fourwheelers and 15:22:46 <CIA-2> aircraft as well which I missed out in the last commit. 15:22:57 <Tron_> peter1138: it's never too late for lunch 15:25:08 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:15 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6279 /trunk/vehicle.h: -Codechange (r1525): Use proper const pointers for functions that do not change them . 15:29:45 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 15:34:19 <peter1138> so i guess adsl on the 7th 15:34:42 <Darkvater> that's pretty fast 15:34:46 <Darkvater> I had to wait 89 days 15:36:32 <peter1138> errr 15:36:35 <peter1138> s/guess/get/ 15:36:59 <Darkvater> no, keep it at guess. You never know when they'll actually send it :s 15:37:04 <peter1138> hehe 15:37:30 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=486568#486568 << lols 15:37:37 <Darkvater> check out the reply by White Rabbit 15:38:23 <hylje> lots of lols! 15:39:13 <hylje> so when you code above-sea water 15:39:14 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 15:39:22 <hylje> and even water simulation 15:39:38 <hylje> water simulation is always cool 15:42:19 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2E836.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:30 *** Mucht|work [~mucht@62.99.225.122] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:47:49 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 15:49:16 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2D9FC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:51:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CDE3.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 15:52:25 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 15:57:42 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6280 /trunk/ (ai/default/default.c command.h train_gui.c vehicle.c): 15:57:42 <CIA-2> -Codechange: Use the same naming for trains as for other vehicles: 15:57:42 <CIA-2> CMD_SEND_TRAIN_TO_DEPOT instead of CMD_TRAIN_GOTO_DEPOT 15:58:45 *** e1ko is now known as e1ko_AfK 15:58:53 <peter1138> heh, that bugged me for a while ;p 15:59:37 <Darkvater> who wrote that anyways? 16:01:12 <MeusH> Chris :o 16:02:19 <Darkvater> damn, old SVN 16:02:30 <ln-> 18:59 <blackis> I just did something that noone ever has done before in the entire history of mankind 16:02:36 <ln-> 19:01 <blackis> I apple-tabbed out of OTTD running in fullscreen 16:04:07 <Darkvater> so where did you guys see the PBS in arctic_scenery? 16:04:11 * Darkvater whistles innocently 16:06:11 <glx> :) 16:06:55 <Darkvater> p34r /\/\Y 1337 F0th0Sh0pz0rz sk1llZ 16:07:16 <Osai> hey all 16:07:21 <MeusH> hahaa n1 DV homie xD 16:07:24 <MeusH> hey Osai 16:07:36 <MeusH> welcome to the 313373 club 16:07:38 <Osai> while updating our server to newest nightly I found a bug 16:07:45 <MeusH> can't be! 16:07:58 <Osai> yee :/ 16:08:17 <ln-> 19:05 <blackis> Especially I'm wondering what the QZ_ prefix for a function is supposed to mean 16:08:33 <ln-> <--- in the Mac OS X video driver. does someone know? 16:08:36 <Osai> if you start a server dedicated, max_companies, max_clients and max_spectators is always zero 16:10:01 <Osai> its a fault of http://svn.openttd.com/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/changeset/6186 line 1209 16:10:40 <Osai> here comes my patch: http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/blog/files/patches/player_settings_fix.patch 16:10:57 <Osai> dunno if it already known, but I am quite sure its only a little mistake 16:11:12 <Osai> its* 16:11:58 <Darkvater> didn't I put those into settings.c? 16:12:09 <Darkvater> Osai: it's openttd.org 16:12:20 <Darkvater> oh wait, it's not my fault ;p 16:12:22 <glx> I see, Rubidium removed these 3 lines by error 16:12:32 <peter1138> o_O 16:12:36 * Darkvater blames Rubidium 16:12:44 <Darkvater> hhee, he probably had a stuffed working copy 16:12:55 <Rubidium> woeps 16:12:59 <Darkvater> and completely screwed up as I did sometimes :O 16:13:26 <Osai> on my local machine it worked nice and smoothly :p 16:14:17 <TrueLight> bad Rubidium, bad bad bad Rubidium :) 16:17:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387F473.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:20:29 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:23:21 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 16:25:25 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:28:27 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:29:49 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6281 /trunk/settings.c: -Fix (r6186): three settings were accidently removed. Thanks go to Osai for reporting and providing the patch. 16:30:42 <Osai> no problem :) 16:34:14 <Darkvater> indeed, init_Aystar() is called on ever load-game gamestate switch blathijs 16:35:05 <Darkvater> it's spamming my debug window atm :p 16:35:23 <TrueLight> spammer 16:36:41 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176096030.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:26 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176111120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:10 *** Tron_ [OCq0QZSL@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:43:21 *** zag [gaz@howaboutyou.showusyourteetees.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:47:19 <blathijs> Darkvater: it is? Hmm, I remembered it wasn't 16:48:11 <blathijs> It might have been re-entrant, though 16:48:43 <blathijs> ie, not allocating new memory when called on a still inited aystar 16:52:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host46-239.pool878.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 16:54:31 <Wolf01> hi 16:56:28 *** e1ko_AfK is now known as e1ko 17:00:20 *** diametral [~diametral@210.52.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:03:00 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@85.119.91.2] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.5/2006073115]] 17:10:51 *** Ammler_away [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:12:27 *** diametral [~diametral@210.52.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:15:25 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@224.158.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:17:01 <torm> openttd needs a fullscreen (F11 style) windowed mode, like webbrowsers have 17:17:27 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 17:17:47 <Wolf01> game options -> full screen 17:19:34 <torm> ahh cheers Wolf01 17:19:44 <torm> is there a shortcut key for that? 17:19:53 <torm> nm 17:19:54 <torm> found it 17:19:54 <glx> ctrl-F 17:20:03 <torm> alt+enter 17:20:11 <Wolf01> eh :) 17:20:16 * torm bangs head against wall 17:20:25 <torm> typical me, speaking too soon 17:21:24 <torm> night all 17:21:29 *** torm is now known as torm-afk 17:22:20 *** TronBSD is now known as Tron 17:22:48 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:23:11 *** Ammler_away is now known as Ammler 17:27:46 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 17:28:02 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E0BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:28:46 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:34 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D291.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:07 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 17:39:20 *** mikk36[EST] [mikk36@pc251.host4.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:39:27 *** veeroo [~veeroo@xdsl-5646.lubin.dialog.net.pl] has joined #openttd 17:39:31 <veeroo> Hi 17:39:57 <veeroo> i have a bug in OTTD 6134 MiniIN 17:40:07 <veeroo> dont know u have it too 17:40:22 <veeroo> i have 210 road vehicles 17:41:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> and we are gonna use our telepathic skills now to get the information out of you? 17:41:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> there is a thread in the forum called "miniin problems" 17:41:52 <veeroo> i played yesterday and wverythink was ok but today i opened my saved game and my RV are riding with a speed about 2-3 km/h 17:42:33 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6282 /trunk/ (vehicle.c vehicle.h vehicle_gui.c): 17:42:33 <CIA-2> -Codechange: made a function to create the vehicle list for vehicle list windows 17:42:33 <CIA-2> this list is also used by mass goto depot to ensure that they use the same vehicles 17:42:33 <CIA-2> right now only the list of all vehicles use this for goto depot, but eventually all the types will use this 17:42:46 <veeroo> i was turning on and off some patch options and i discovered that when i disable the realistic acceleration for RV wverythink is ok 17:42:50 <veeroo> every* 17:43:10 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:43:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> then talk to the creator of the realistic (physics) acelleration patch 17:43:15 <veeroo> then i turn in on again RH slows down to 2-3km/h again 17:43:22 <TrueLight> [19:41:31] <Eddi|zuHause3> there is a thread in the forum called "miniin problems" 17:43:34 <TrueLight> please do post it there 17:43:39 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 17:43:39 <veeroo> yes but dont know if it was posted yet 17:43:41 <TrueLight> we can't help you here, unless RichK is around 17:43:45 <TrueLight> So, go and find out! 17:44:25 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, hmm, thats the one that breaks my stuff, isn't it? :) 17:44:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 17:44:33 <Bjarni> yes 17:44:55 <Bjarni> I don't think I got a whole lot more stuff, that will break your stuff 17:44:56 <AsterixMG> well, then back to redoing it :P 17:45:00 <Bjarni> at least not for a while 17:45:16 *** mikk36 [mikk36@pc44.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:45:21 <Bjarni> it's just a move. It should not be that hard to solve the conflicts 17:46:30 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 17:55:37 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:58:26 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 18:07:06 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 18:09:34 *** jonty-comp [bottage@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:10:42 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:43 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Probably doing something else] 18:22:13 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 18:25:55 *** Sionide_ [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29:44 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 18:33:08 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6283 /trunk/vehicle_gui.c: -Code cleanup: fixed wrong indent in PlayerVehWndProc() 18:45:39 <Darkvater> 18:48 <@blathijs> It might have been re-entrant, though <-- just put a debug statement there and you'll see :) 18:51:20 *** Progman [~progman@p5091C8B5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58:31 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:03:04 <Darkvater> wow 19:03:05 <Darkvater> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Sign 19:03:12 <Darkvater> now that is what I call a good wiki page 19:03:29 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ARGH!] 19:03:34 <Darkvater> yet people fail to read it ( http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27145 ) 19:04:46 <Darkvater> hmm what happened to waypoints? 19:04:56 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 19:05:04 <Darkvater> I build a waypoint, delete it, the name stays 19:05:11 <Wolf01> hello RichK67 19:05:18 <RichK67> hey ho 19:05:19 <Darkvater> when the sign goes away I cannot delete the ext anymore? 19:05:28 <Belugas> it' supposed to stay for a few clicks, i think 19:05:43 <Darkvater> it is first gray for a few days, yes 19:05:46 <Darkvater> then it's purple 19:05:51 <Darkvater> and you're stuck with it 19:06:06 <Belugas> purple??? wow.. been long time i've played ;S 19:06:28 <Darkvater> and my company's colour is red 19:06:41 <Tron> Darkvater: This is not a flame. It's a bug (; 19:07:25 <Darkvater> somebody changed this between HEAD and 0.4.8 19:07:27 <Darkvater> there it works 19:07:36 <Darkvater> at least it disappears 19:07:49 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc1-norw2-0-0-cust674.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 19:10:28 * Darkvater hunts down the bug and bitchslaps the person responsible for it 19:10:50 <Tron> Darkvater: edit your post first 19:11:32 <Darkvater> already did :) 19:11:48 <Darkvater> I assume he is using 0.4.8 :) 19:12:03 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:15:07 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6284 /trunk/vehicle.c: -Code Cleanup r6282: cleaned up the code a bit 19:17:22 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 19:17:46 <Wolf01> idea: increased sign lenght & multi-row signs, who want to help me? 19:17:58 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:20:23 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, no, not again :) 19:21:16 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 19:21:21 <Bjarni> if you can't handle whatever conflicts this commit made, then your coding skill suck big time :P 19:21:56 <Bjarni> I think even JohnUK89 would be able to solve it 19:22:02 <JohnUK89> wha?? 19:22:43 <JohnUK89> What would I be able to solve? 19:23:06 <Bjarni> a conflict between a patch and a commit 19:23:24 <Bjarni> - uint16 n = 0; 19:23:25 <Bjarni> + uint n = 0; 19:23:30 <AsterixMG> i didn't look what it changed yet, was getting rid of all my current typos :) 19:23:34 <Bjarni> I think everybody should be able to solve that one 19:23:59 <Bjarni> the other change in that commit was 19:24:00 <Bjarni> - for (i=0; i < n; i++) { 19:24:00 <Bjarni> + for (i = 0; i < n; i++) { 19:24:03 <Wolf01> :O 19:24:15 <Bjarni> and I don't think you touched that part, at least not yet 19:24:20 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:24:35 *** Ammler_ is now known as Ammler 19:26:01 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:26:49 <Bjarni> <AsterixMG> i didn't look what it changed yet, was getting rid of all my current typos :) <-- your diff is full of typos? 19:26:56 <Bjarni> then it can't be accepted 19:26:59 <Bjarni> :P 19:27:37 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, not the diff, but the code was... missed a bracked here, put one too much there and BAM you get lots of errors when trying to compile :) 19:28:06 <JohnUK89> still a typo :P 19:28:49 <AsterixMG> at least i try to compile before i say its ready ;) 19:29:32 <CIA-2> truelight * r6285 /trunk/waypoint.c: -Fix r6143: of course deleting a waypoint should call the Delete wrapper, not the Destroy function (/me slaps hisself) 19:29:36 <JohnUK89> At least I admit I can't code and don't even bother trying :P 19:31:24 <Darkvater> you are a brave man JohnUK89 19:31:37 <JohnUK89> Darkvater: I am? 19:31:47 <Bjarni> yeah 19:31:49 <Darkvater> to admit your fault 19:32:08 <Bjarni> you admitted that we can write an ASM app to tell that you are stupid and you would never know that 19:32:11 <Bjarni> :P 19:32:20 <JohnUK89> lmao 19:32:48 <JohnUK89> I do plan to attempt to learn C at some stage 19:32:57 <Bjarni> even better: PPC ASM because then you can't just compile it to see what it does 19:33:01 <JohnUK89> But I have a year of coping with VB first... 19:33:43 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 19:35:06 <hylje> vb. 19:35:07 <hylje> eww 19:35:10 * Bjarni wonders about modifying his hello world app to print something about JohnUK89 19:35:11 * JohnUK89 grumbles at school only running Winblows 19:35:19 <JohnUK89> lol Bjarni 19:35:26 <hylje> start with python so you can EXPAND into C/++ 19:35:27 <Bjarni> it's in PPC ASM written for the velocity engine 19:35:48 <JohnUK89> hylje: don't really have a choice at the moment 19:36:12 <hylje> why? 19:36:48 <JohnUK89> I'm going to be far too busy over the next year to even consider anything but the language that's going to be fed to me 19:37:10 <Bjarni> that way you would need a PPC with a velocity engine to test it, not just a PPC 19:37:28 <hylje> Bjarni: yay for crossplatform? 19:37:54 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, something to read :) http://mitglied.lycos.de/kuttler/ottd/BuildVehicleList_4.diff 19:38:27 <Darkvater> he should fix the window first 19:38:32 <Bjarni> the tradeoff in using the velocity engine to handle strings is that it can only handle 128 bit vars, which would then be 16 byte char arrays 19:38:44 <Bjarni> so you can't make a 10 char array, it have to be 16 char long 19:38:47 <Bjarni> or 32 19:38:55 <MeusH> Darkvater: let's measure 19:39:09 * Darkvater measure MeusH's equipment 19:39:22 <MeusH> :o 19:39:24 <MeusH> and how is it? 19:39:32 * Darkvater can't see anything and fetches a lens 19:39:39 <JohnUK89> lol 19:39:39 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> he should fix the window first <-- I was doing that, but then I got highlighted and JohnUK89 started talking about his coding skills 19:39:46 <Darkvater> hehe 19:39:48 <hylje> lol 19:39:53 <Bjarni> so right now JohnUK89 is stalling development 19:39:56 <AsterixMG> :) 19:40:02 * JohnUK89 shuts up 19:41:29 <AsterixMG> Darkvater, its not to be included yet... i want to have comments on it :) 19:47:19 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:48:53 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 19:53:10 *** Sionide is now known as ^5 19:54:42 *** ^5 is now known as lkejd 19:55:01 *** lkejd is now known as o_O 19:55:12 *** o_O is now known as Sionide 19:55:52 <MeusH> o_0? 19:56:07 <MeusH> ()_____. 19:57:03 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:01:53 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 20:06:43 <CIA-2> tron * r6286 /trunk/video/sdl_v.c: Nobody cares for the return value of GetAvailableVideoMode(), therefore remove it 20:15:00 <Born_Acorn> I cared! 20:15:03 * Born_Acorn cries 20:15:17 * TrueLight gives Born_Acorn a hug 20:15:25 <SpComb> so now we don't have any more video modes available? 20:15:28 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 20:15:40 <SpComb> ah well, who needs those pesky graphics anyways... 20:16:23 <Born_Acorn> Its just like if SpComb gave awayhis children because nobody cares for the return value of them! 20:16:30 *** veeroo [~veeroo@xdsl-5646.lubin.dialog.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 20:16:57 *** MaulingMonkey [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:10 <TrueLight> Born_Acorn: nice one :) 20:19:14 <SpComb> ye olde 20:19:23 <SpComb> he's said that so many times before! 20:20:07 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-129.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:21:00 <Born_Acorn> SpComb, but only as it is true! 20:21:12 <Born_Acorn> You have kids! 20:22:30 <SpComb> lies 20:35:39 <MeusH> Darkvater: let's measure 20:37:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-234-156.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:39:27 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:40:45 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 20:41:58 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:19 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 20:44:15 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 20:44:42 <ln-> teeeen hut! 20:45:46 <Darkvater> MeusH: oef 20:46:08 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 20:46:12 <Belugas_Gone> night all 20:47:27 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:47:48 <Bjarni> <ln-> teeeen hut! <-- don't tell Sacro 20:47:58 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 20:50:31 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 20:50:48 <Darkvater> anyone here has experience with a SUSE-configured apache server? 20:50:54 <Darkvater> it doesn't want to recognize my homdir 20:50:56 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago 20:51:05 <Wolf01> 'night all 20:51:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host46-239.pool878.interbusiness.it] has quit [] 20:51:12 <Triffid_Hunter> Darkvater: turned on mod_userdir? 20:51:25 * Darkvater checks 20:51:35 <CIA-2> tron * r6287 /trunk/openttd.c: -Codechange: Remove a redundant check 20:51:40 <Darkvater> \o/ 20:51:55 <Darkvater> now where the hell are those config files 20:52:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387F473.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:53:03 <Darkvater> Include /etc/apache2/mod_userdir.conf 20:53:12 <Darkvater> in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf 20:54:01 <Darkvater> now how do I load these modules 20:54:08 <Darkvater> why the fuck does suse have to screw it up so much 20:54:14 <Darkvater> just use a single file jezus 20:55:30 <peter1138> heh 20:55:34 <peter1138> average ping time: 3500ms 20:55:39 <peter1138> worst: 25000ms 20:55:47 *** e1ko [~31k0@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.4/2006072904]] 20:55:48 <peter1138> packet loss: 10% 20:55:57 <peter1138> dialup shouldn't be *this* bad 20:56:41 <Darkvater> [Thu Aug 31 22:54:46 2006] [warn] module userdir_module is already loaded, skipping 20:56:48 <Darkvater> Triffid_Hunter: other ideas? 20:57:31 <Triffid_Hunter> peter1138: heh nope sounds like you're choking your uplink 20:57:51 <ln-> blackis: mr. Bjarni is the OS X port maintainer, and is probably reading through your patch right now. 20:57:53 <peter1138> f'nar 20:58:08 <peter1138> not uploading anything 20:58:17 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 20:58:30 * Darkvater gives peter1138 some bandwidth 20:58:33 <peter1138> unles it's xp calling home or something 20:59:17 <Bjarni> XP is spyware 20:59:26 <Bjarni> if not by 3rd party, then by MS 20:59:33 <peter1138> 440279ms :/ 20:59:36 <Bjarni> checking that you are allowed to use your computer 20:59:49 <peter1138> er, only one 4 21:00:22 <Bjarni> 440279 is way more than 4 :P 21:00:47 <peter1138> 40279 :P 21:01:03 <Bjarni> still a big difference 21:03:37 <blackis> ln-: oh my, and I haven't even fixed the last bug you reported. 21:03:48 <Bjarni> :P 21:04:13 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org] 21:04:28 <izhirahider> ouch, I got a core dump 21:04:36 <izhirahider> Error: !invalid string id 0 in GetString 21:04:38 <izhirahider> openttd: openttd.c:85: error: Assertion `0' failed. 21:05:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> STRIKE!... i got sound with flash in konqueror working ;) 21:05:36 <izhirahider> I got an infinite loop of news repeating over and over 21:05:57 <izhirahider> Train has stopped in the depot and citizen celebrate first train arrival to a station 21:06:00 <izhirahider> over and over again 21:06:01 <izhirahider> until crash 21:08:39 <AsterixMG> what version? 21:10:47 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B36971.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:08 <izhirahider> revision 6287 21:12:17 <AsterixMG> and can you reproduce it? 21:12:21 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B36C3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Osai^2))] 21:12:26 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 21:13:23 <izhirahider> I will try with a new game 21:14:29 <Darkvater> I don't think homedir works ;( 21:14:31 <Darkvater> File does not exist: /srv/www/htdocs/~tfarago 21:18:07 <izhirahider> I will try to reproduce what I did before saving this file :/ 21:18:40 <MeusH> Darkvater, now what is oef? 21:19:09 <Darkvater> do wait please 21:22:34 <MeusH> okay 21:26:28 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:27:55 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5A4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:28:25 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-514f9383.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:30:49 *** wonea [~wonea@wonea.demon.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:34:25 *** Dred_furst [~Dred.furs@user-514f9383.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:25 *** Borgi [~borgi@dsl5402D9BF.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:42:15 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 22:00:38 * AsterixMG is going to bed 22:00:45 <AsterixMG> good night @all 22:00:46 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:00:53 <MeusH> goodnight AsterixMG 22:00:54 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p5081B0A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:01:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 22:04:50 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Dinner] 22:07:54 <CIA-2> tron * r6288 /trunk/strings.c: -Regression: Restore automatic language detection, which was broken in r4886 when the language codes got extended 22:08:00 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:09:33 <ln-> Bjarni: currently the iBook's touchpad can be used for zooming in/out in OTTD, just like a scrollwheel. the left-right movement is ignored. but do you think it could be more useful to use the touchpad for moving around the map? 22:09:51 <ln-> and what would be used for zooming in that case? 22:10:11 *** Guest56 [Gono@N910P019.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 22:10:16 * Bjarni lacks iBook experience 22:10:27 <Bjarni> so I can't tell 22:10:33 <Bjarni> might be nice to make it scroll the map 22:10:39 *** JohnUK89_ [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 22:10:50 <Bjarni> but I fear that would make messy code 22:11:19 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:12:42 *** torm-afk [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:13:57 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:06 *** JohnUK89_ is now known as JohnUK89 22:16:02 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N752P006.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:25 <MeusH> ln- how about touchpad combined with some button? 22:16:42 <MeusH> which would emulate scrollwheel? 22:17:09 *** Ammler_ [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:17:35 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:36 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 22:18:06 <ln-> MeusH: maybe more like touchpad with some button to make it *not* emulate scrollwheel. 22:18:30 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 22:18:39 <MeusH> yep, also a good idea 22:18:48 <Bjarni> haha, just found a nice bug in my patch 22:18:57 <MeusH> Darkvater: let's measure 22:19:06 <Bjarni> I set p1 incorrectly (very incorrectly) and it works anyway o_O 22:19:25 <Bjarni> in fact I used the vehicle index instead of the station index 22:19:45 <MeusH> and how did you find that Bjarni? 22:19:49 * Bjarni wonders how it manages to find the right station and vehicles anyway 22:19:58 <Bjarni> I read the diff 22:21:22 <Darkvater> MeusH: he, sorry :( 22:21:27 <Darkvater> got caught up with some nasty bugs 22:21:43 <Bjarni> that tells me that I wrote a great function. Even with incorrect arguments, it do as I expect it to do :D 22:22:07 <MeusH> that's not good 22:22:08 <MeusH> but 22:22:09 <MeusH> he - what does it mean? hold on? a moment? not now? 22:22:30 <Darkvater> that means tomorrw the soonest 22:22:45 <Darkvater> I am sure your method works, but I have to look at it if it can't be done shorter 22:22:58 <MeusH> allright 22:23:11 <MeusH> anyway, that's great you fixed the 2x1 autorail 22:23:16 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 22:23:24 <MeusH> by the way, http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=486782#486782 22:23:31 *** torm-afk [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:23:39 <MeusH> I'm not happy with shared orders buttons when I see them right now :/ 22:24:43 <Darkvater> (already replied) 22:28:25 <Bjarni> MeusH: replied 22:29:05 <Bjarni> <Darkvater> got caught up with some nasty bugs <-- nasty. You are in need of an exterminator? 22:29:19 * Darkvater is the exterminator :) 22:29:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:29:28 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 22:29:49 <grimrc1> shouldn't bin whole train just be ctrl-click train and drag to bin? 22:30:34 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org] 22:30:46 <Bjarni> hmm 22:30:54 <MeusH> replied, too, with attachement 22:31:41 <grimrc1> it's one of those features newer players don't need, and those with ctrl-click knowledge can find out 22:32:41 <Bjarni> but it will wear your control key out faster 22:33:02 <Bjarni> we are already using it a lot and with the many hours you play each day... 22:33:53 <grimrc1> like, ctrl-click on train or one of its carriages could highlight the whole train instead of just one carriage 22:36:41 <MeusH> yeah, so newcomers know what's going to happen 22:40:43 *** Dred_furst` [~Dred.furs@user-514f9383.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [] 22:43:45 <grimrc1> ? 22:44:02 <Bjarni> there is always the tooltip 22:44:21 <Bjarni> and having two buttons gives two different tooltips 22:44:43 <grimrc1> true; do you think ctrl-click is a good idea to implement *anyway*, even if 2 buttons are kept? 22:45:00 <Bjarni> hmm 22:45:05 <grimrc1> I like the idea 22:45:07 <Bjarni> I don't know 22:45:20 <Bjarni> looks like double work and more messy code 22:45:32 <MeusH> how about making a poll on the forum? 22:45:46 <MeusH> whether to keep ctrl or get rid of it 22:46:23 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 22:47:47 <grimrc1> yeah I've just realised; ctrl-click already is implemented; cool 22:47:56 <grimrc1> forget what I was saying then 22:48:06 <Bjarni> ok 22:48:14 <Bjarni> good for your sake 22:48:27 <Bjarni> it was a stupid idea for a patch anyway :p 22:48:43 <grimrc1> it allows you to take the last 4 (say) coal cars of the end of a train with 10 (say) coal cars and put them on a different train or bin them; let's you do even more basically than just selling chunks 22:49:44 <grimrc1> that's really neat; it could be cleaned up a bit though, coz it only shows the white border of one carriage/train when you drag more than one, which is a bit misleading 22:49:57 <Darkvater> < sleep 22:50:12 <MeusH> goodnighty Darkvater 22:50:39 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:21 <MeusH> ?ó?? 22:53:39 <MeusH> goodnighty 22:53:44 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 22:58:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't like the entire ctrl+click interface 23:00:54 <grimrc1> throughout the entire game? 23:02:17 *** eQualizer [~lauri@dyn13-124.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:02:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes 23:02:40 <grimrc1> I like the features that ctrl gets you access to, and I can't think of a better way 23:03:01 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:03:02 <Bjarni> same here 23:03:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that is kind of a prolbem :) 23:03:15 <Bjarni> right click is reserved for tooltips 23:03:27 <Bjarni> we need 3 button mice support 23:04:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah. middle mouse button/mouse wheel press = ctrl+click 23:05:47 <Bjarni> now I got a new weird problem. It's like control is always down when I test for it, but only in the station vehicle list window. The other windows that shares that piece of code can detect it correctly o_O 23:07:12 *** PAStheLoD [~pas@catv-56656d26.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.01 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:10:18 <Bjarni> ahh, found the reason 23:10:35 *** Ammler [~Ammler@22-150.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:11:19 <Bjarni> but it's always nice when two windows/functions/whatever shares a piece of code and input and output should be the same, but they are different somehow 23:26:34 <grimrc1> one of my gnome-terminal sessions has locked up to keyboard input for no good reason; Ctrl-Shift-T makes a new working tab inside the same window - strange 23:27:07 <glx> it's gnome :) 23:27:44 <grimrc1> doesn't show output when I do cat > /dev/pts/[pts # of broken terminal] 23:27:54 <grimrc1> I think it was the windows key I pressed 23:29:11 <grimrc1> and the cat command doesn't terminate on EOF when I try to send output to the terminal, like it normally does 23:31:37 *** torm-afk [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: adios!] 23:33:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 23:34:57 <grimrc1> might be bash actually 23:35:31 <glx> can't you kill it from another terminal? 23:36:44 <grimrc1> oh yeah probably; but where's the fun in that? 23:36:57 <grimrc1> lsof | grep -i bash shows something interesting 23:37:11 <grimrc1> strange errors: bash 8545 guest mem REG 0,0 0 [heap] (stat: No such file or directory) 23:43:43 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd