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00:00:48 <Bjarni> anyway, the fact remains that I could see that an extra bit should be reserved for more windows and it was the only free bit in the window number and if we should use the same flags (we should to keep it readable), I had to say "we will use that one in the near future" 00:01:00 <Bjarni> else the flags will break 00:01:09 <CIA-2> richk * r6374 /branches/MiniIN/network_gui.h: [MiniIN]: Fix. network_gui.h was missed from upload, but had been downloaded in the sync. Weird. 00:01:35 <Sacro> bah, so my fix is not needed 00:01:43 <Bjarni> haha 00:01:51 <Bjarni> Sacro: you really got lucky this time :P 00:02:49 <Sacro> damnit, bug spotted, posted, fixed. patch posted 00:02:56 <Sacro> and he goes and uploads the missing file 00:03:02 <JohnUK89_> lmao 00:04:07 <mikk36> lol 00:04:29 <Bjarni> <CIA-2> richk * r6374 /branches/MiniIN/network_gui.h: [MiniIN]: Fix. network_gui.h was missed from upload, but had been downloaded in the sync. Weird. <-- not weird. He patched the file into his working dir, but patching is only adding the data, not anything to do with svn, so he needs to run "svn add (all new files)" before committing or the files will be missing 00:05:04 <Bjarni> it's a question of knowing svn 00:05:09 <Bjarni> and to remember it 00:05:12 <Sacro> mmmmm, bedtime i reckons 00:05:25 <Bjarni> lol 00:05:37 <Bjarni> now you really got a great deal out of your miniIN game 00:05:38 <Bjarni> :P 00:12:09 <Sacro> yeah 00:12:10 <Sacro> i know :( 00:12:13 <Sacro> 1 bugfix though 00:16:14 * Sacro starts a game on 01/01/00 00:16:28 <Sacro> 2048*2048 00:16:44 <Sacro> 4400 industries O_o 00:16:58 <Sacro> 128k trees :| 00:17:05 <glx> you'll have to wait 1920 years for the first vehicle :) 00:17:16 <Sacro> glx: that has just occured to me 00:17:49 <Sacro> mmm, darn it 00:18:16 <Sacro> it'd be nice if TGP could cache map generations 00:18:58 <JohnUK89_> Just write down the seed :P 00:19:15 <Sacro> ooooh so sexy landscape 00:19:56 <Sacro> so long a saving time 00:22:57 <Bjarni> http://www.lundsten.dk/tour2002/us02-25-12.jpg <-- awesome 00:23:58 <Bjarni> it's some place called Tehachapi Loop 00:24:26 <Sacro> nice 00:24:40 <Sacro> handy for checking your still a whole train 00:25:11 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@5354EC24.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:25:55 <Sacro> whoo, found a bug 00:26:46 <Sacro> with frieight-trains enabled, the train still goes at weight x1 when enternig a depot 00:26:50 <Sacro> and on that note...bed 00:27:03 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-180-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:29 <Bjarni> http://www.geocities.com/~azbigtrains/images/techloop.jpg <-- same location. Different year 00:36:51 *** Nigel[CPI] [~ca4aca8b@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #openttd 00:38:04 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 00:40:57 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 00:43:19 <Born_Acorn> Geocities! 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04:36:50 <Jopps> is it worth getting? 04:39:27 <lws1984> yes 04:39:47 <lws1984> it's just got a very annoying tracklaying system 04:50:41 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B37327.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:52:03 *** Jopps [~Jopps5@CPE-144-131-234-113.sa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 04:56:48 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has joined #openttd 04:58:20 *** DownEast [~SLJ_DonwE@ip68-12-38-115.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:59:50 <DownEast> Anyway of banning based on the Unique ID? 05:00:29 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7533B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:07:57 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B774ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:19 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 05:29:01 *** DownEast [~SLJ_DonwE@ip68-12-38-115.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:29:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 05:44:09 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: sleep.] 05:50:14 *** grimrc1 [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:17:32 *** Wolfy is now known as Wolfensteijn 06:20:27 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:24:03 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 06:30:02 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:30:12 *** smeding_ [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:31:17 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [] 06:33:42 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D5A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:33:51 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:36:26 <CIA-2> miham * r6375 /trunk/lang/ (german.txt spanish.txt turkish.txt): 06:36:26 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-04 08:35:58 06:36:26 <CIA-2> german - 1 changed by Neonox (1) 06:36:26 <CIA-2> spanish - 87 fixed by eusebio (87) 06:36:26 <CIA-2> turkish - 4 fixed by jnmbk (4) 06:36:55 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3DBA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:37:05 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 06:50:54 *** WhiteHand [lstevens@CPE-144-131-104-253.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 06:51:40 *** WhiteHand [lstevens@CPE-144-131-104-253.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #openttd [] 06:51:56 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:59:13 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 07:00:42 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.96] has joined #openttd 07:05:41 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:07 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.60.90] has joined #openttd 07:24:25 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 07:29:42 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:29:54 <torm> afternoon guys and gals 07:30:23 <torm> any of devs in here know of any good game theory sites? 07:30:42 <torm> looking at reading into the actual theory and algorithms behind tile based games like OTTD 07:41:53 <XeryusTC> www.gamedev.net <- something like that? 07:42:57 <Faux> http://www.devmaster.net/ has some good stuff, too. 07:49:45 <torm> aight cheers guys, i'll take a look 07:54:16 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has joined #openttd 07:56:15 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:06:45 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:13:18 *** JohnUK89|Bed is now known as JohnUK89 08:13:35 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:14:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:15:41 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3686E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:17:47 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c24.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 08:17:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 08:21:20 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:51 <grimrc1> does 'DoCommandP' mean 'do command paused' as I originally thought? that'd be useful for network sync right? 08:26:31 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:27:06 <Bjarni> not at all 08:27:27 <Bjarni> DoCommandP will ensure that it executes in sync on all computers at the same time 08:27:46 <Bjarni> DoCommand will only run on the local computer without transmitting anything 08:27:55 <Bjarni> example: 08:27:59 <Bjarni> cloning a train 08:28:14 <Bjarni> DoCommandP to start the cloning 08:28:54 <Bjarni> DoCommand in that command since we should not transmit the build commands over the network. Everybody are already doing the DoCommandP command 08:29:11 <Bjarni> got it? 08:29:45 <grimrc1> yes but, does it pause the game state 08:30:29 <grimrc1> so that the assumptions in the CmdLevel() are ok 08:30:45 <grimrc1> CmdLevelLand() I mean; it works on multiple tiles 08:31:17 <grimrc1> I think it's ok anyway; just asking; do you know what CMD_AUTO means? 08:32:04 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:32:46 <Bjarni> first it runs on the local computer without the DC_EXEC flag set. It it didn't return CMD_ERROR, then it sends it to the server. The server then verifies without DC_EXEC and if the server says it's ok as well, it transmit the command to all clients with an info about when to execute it. All clients should then execute it with DC_EXEC set at the same time 08:33:31 <Bjarni> so the key is to check for DC_EXEC at when testing and executing to ensure that it really only is a test when DC_EXEC is not set 08:33:46 <peter1138> no, it doesn't pause the game 08:33:52 <Bjarni> peter1138! 08:33:55 <Bjarni> just the man I need 08:34:00 <Bjarni> I got a question for you 08:34:19 <grimrc1> the way the drag over tiles functions work seem a bit risque 08:34:34 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 08:34:34 *** tf84 [~Thomas@88.134.185.23] has joined #openttd 08:34:42 <peter1138> why? 08:34:43 <Bjarni> peter1138: http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/refit_cost.diff <-- why is refit cost for trains >> 9 while it's >> 10 for all other vehicles? 08:34:49 <Bjarni> bug? 08:34:50 <peter1138> you do the drag, then it sends a command 08:34:54 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [] 08:35:15 <grimrc1> I just mean, it tries each tile individually, as I suppose you have to 08:35:28 <grimrc1> I mean, after ~DC_EXEC 08:35:41 <peter1138> it tries each tile inside the command, yes? what's risky about that? 08:36:32 <peter1138> Bjarni: something in the newgrf spec probably... i can't remember off-hand 08:36:55 <grimrc1> if you DoCommandP with ~DC_EXEC, and then moments later DoCommandP with DC_EXEC, should you still check for an error, or just assume one can't happen 08:37:16 <peter1138> the command system always does it without, and then with 08:37:26 <peter1138> (internally) 08:37:29 <grimrc1> oh cool 08:37:43 <peter1138> so if it works the first time, it'll work the second time 08:37:54 <Bjarni> ensure that the return values are the same in both cases or you will have an assert 08:37:54 <peter1138> if the costs returned are different, however, something broke 08:43:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45:26 <Bjarni> peter1138: is it safe to assume that the different calculations for getting train refit costs are correct? 08:45:34 <Bjarni> because in that case I will commit this patch 08:48:27 <Bjarni> well, if you don't know that now, then I can commit this and we can fix this later if needed 08:51:36 <Tron> how about getting it right the first time? 08:55:17 <peter1138> fairly sure it's right at the moment, as i compared it with the 'patch 08:55:22 *** DarkSSHClone is now known as Darkvater 08:56:31 <Darkvater> morning peeps 08:56:38 <peter1138> mr vater 08:56:48 <Darkvater> admiral nelson 08:57:39 *** tf84 [~Thomas@88.134.185.23] has left #openttd [] 08:57:59 <Darkvater> hehe, mr crocodile hunter's dead 08:58:01 <Bjarni> <peter1138> fairly sure it's right at the moment, as i compared it with the 'patch <-- that statement is good enough for me 08:58:04 <Bjarni> Darkvater: I noticed 08:58:39 <Bjarni> it's in the news, right next to the info that the manager for DSB (National railroad in Denmark) died this weekend 09:00:56 <Bjarni> <Tron> how about getting it right the first time? <-- that's the reason why I asked peter1138 ;) 09:04:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DE17.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:06:52 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p508187E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:06:56 <AsterixMG> hi @all 09:07:31 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has joined #openttd 09:08:13 <CIA-2> bjarni * r6376 /trunk/ (6 files): 09:08:13 <CIA-2> -Codechange: [vehicle refit] moved all refit cost calculations into GetRefitCost() 09:08:13 <CIA-2> Now it's possible to tell refit costs for an EngineID without actually having build a vehicle 09:11:15 <Bjarni> hi AsterixMG 09:24:35 *** Ajcon [~ajcon2@83.145.59.26] has joined #openttd 09:32:16 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2HL2EP1 09:36:26 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:39:14 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:41:06 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 09:42:04 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has joined #openttd 09:51:49 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:57:11 *** Rens2HL2EP1 is now known as Rens2Sea 09:59:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 10:01:36 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:02:33 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 10:05:34 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:07:07 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F963.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:10:03 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:10:06 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:15:19 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41:27 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@talk-210-66.talkadsl.com] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 10:44:32 *** DyzDyzPL [dyz@80.51.214.244] has joined #openttd 10:46:31 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F963.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:50:09 *** Tron_ [VcIGQm4m@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 10:56:33 <Tron_> ===> Compiling vehicle.c 10:56:33 <Tron_> vehicle.c: In function `GetRefitCost': 10:56:33 <Tron_> vehicle.c:732: warning: 'base_cost' might be used uninitialized in this function 10:57:19 <Tron_> compiling before commiting would be a good idea 10:58:45 *** DyzDyzPL [dyz@80.51.214.244] has quit [] 11:00:47 <peter1138> testing code... are you sure?? 11:00:54 <peter1138> (hello :)) 11:05:27 <AsterixMG> hmm, i dont get that warning 11:06:25 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2EB04.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:08 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-180-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:13:27 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2E215.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:58 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:14:25 *** Guest56 [Gono@N881P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:17:50 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 11:20:00 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N765P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:22:44 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:26:17 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 11:26:55 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-180-137.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:30:26 *** yanek [yanek@atlantis.mitranet.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:31:19 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:35:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-193-174.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:35:49 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 11:35:49 <Sacro> !logs 11:45:36 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 11:46:40 <Sacro> oh noes 12:01:18 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-124.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:04:54 *** RnS|Aerandir [~Magic.pow@h112n2c1o1039.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 12:05:28 <RnS|Aerandir> what was the command to join multiple irc servers in one window -m? 12:06:45 <RnS|Aerandir> there is a typo on the homepage 12:06:54 <RnS|Aerandir> You can download this test-release from here. Bugs, problems and suggestions you can either post here or email either truelight@openttd.org or rubidium@openttd.prg. 12:07:01 <RnS|Aerandir> prg? 12:12:03 <Sacro> heh 12:12:28 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:38 <Celestar> hi peops 12:12:42 <Sacro> hey Celestar 12:12:52 <Sacro> can you alter spelling mistakes on the website? 12:12:57 <Celestar> sorry for being offline that often, but I have been working straight 12/h day for the past 17 days :S 12:13:04 <Sacro> ouch, thats nasty 12:14:29 <Celestar> my boss returned from vacation today 12:14:43 <Celestar> greeted me with "You look nasty. Have you been doing overtime?" 12:14:45 <Celestar> :-S 12:14:56 <Sacro> hmm, i hope you get paid for it 12:15:15 <Celestar> nah, but I take 4 weeks off soon, and I only get "charged" for 3 12:15:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> i hope you said "yes, do i get a raise" ;) 12:15:32 <Celestar> Eddi|zuHause3: Raise? as a public employee_ 12:15:34 <Celestar> ? 12:15:36 <Celestar> you kidding 12:15:39 <Sacro> that aint good 12:15:55 <Celestar> Sacro: its the best I could negotiate for :) 12:16:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> well... you can be promoted into a higher wage class ;) 12:16:21 <Celestar> lol 12:16:32 <Sacro> i suppose a week off in leiu isnt that bad 12:17:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> besides, i have actually no clue what you are doing 12:18:03 <Sacro> heh 12:19:21 <PandaMojo> Zomg it's Celestar! 12:19:40 <Born_Acorn> Zomg! 12:19:50 <Sacro> lolzorz 12:20:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have always wondered, what does the "z" mean in "zomg"? 12:20:28 <PandaMojo> zICannotSpell, duh 12:20:29 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: its a typo afaik 12:20:52 <PandaMojo> Celestar: So should I bug you to investgiate my bug patch once your 4 week break comes up, or now? :D 12:20:52 <peter1138> pwned 12:21:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, but p and o are next to each other, so that typo is understandable 12:21:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> but z is like at the other end of the keyboard 12:21:42 <PandaMojo> It's just emphetical. 12:22:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> (i even considered that not everyone is using qwertz keyboards ;)) 12:23:57 <Sacro> dvorak? 12:24:34 <Sacro> nope 12:26:18 <peter1138> who'd use a qwertz keyboard where the z is in the wrong place? 12:27:43 <Born_Acorn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_slang_phrases#Z 12:29:18 <peter1138> there's a \ between shift and z ... 12:29:32 <peter1138> i suppose those US keyboards are strange 12:39:10 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40:43 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 12:41:32 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 12:41:39 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 12:41:46 <grimrc1> British keyboard 12:42:02 <grimrc1> that's where I like my pipe (|) 12:42:18 <grimrc1> and that's *not* a double entendre 12:43:13 <guru3> what's an entendre? 12:43:26 <torm> i just got my "Practical Mono" book off amazon... it arrived in the post today... a nice sexy hard cover tech manual, bent at a 90 degree angle... ie: damaged in transit... 12:43:29 <torm> i am VERY pissed off 12:43:41 <grimrc1> I don't know, but there's a French word that's spelt just like it 12:44:05 <peter1138> "Although an expression made of French words, it is not correct modern French; the French use the term double sens ("double sense [or meaning]") for such phrases." 12:44:23 <grimrc1> ohhh actually I spelt it right 12:44:50 <grimrc1> oh, well every I know uses the old version 12:45:06 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:08 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 12:47:26 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:48:07 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:02 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [] 12:50:52 <Sacro> torm: return it 12:52:06 <torm> Sacro: not sure if i can... i bought it thru one of them "used" listings... marked as "like new, one mark on the back" 12:52:21 <torm> the morons put it in a ENVELOPE and mailed it like that... i mean c'mon! 12:52:32 <torm> a big heavy tech manual in an envelope? 12:52:36 <grimrc1> how much did you pay for P & P? 12:52:51 <torm> (international) 12:53:14 <grimrc1> well I think you can get them to replace it legally 12:53:35 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:45 <torm> i gonna try for sure... aye 12:54:06 <Sacro> torm: that doesnt sound "like new" to me 12:57:22 <torm> lol i should take a photo and up it... it's anything but :P 12:57:51 <torm> and on a different note: whoever recommended devmaster.net to me earlier today, you rock 12:57:54 <grimrc1> I bet they'd like to see it in an e-mail 12:58:03 <torm> that'd be Faux 12:58:11 <Faux> \o/ 12:58:18 <Faux> The mmo articles on there r0x. 12:58:43 <torm> read about 20 articles off there today... awesome :) 12:59:37 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 13:09:17 <grimrc1> I've made land purchase draggable: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/331 13:09:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> it was deliberately decided against this for multiplayer balance 13:09:53 <Rubidium> grimrc1: something similar is already in MiniIN 13:10:02 <grimrc1> damn 13:10:16 <Sacro> grimrc1: wolf01 done it already 13:10:39 <grimrc1> oh; I didn't see any mention of it in the miniin wiki 13:10:54 <Rubidium> the wiki is outdated 13:11:56 <Rubidium> http://svn.openttd.org/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/browser/branches/MiniIN/patches/MiniINpatches.txt <- is always up-to-date, unless RichK67 forgets to add something 13:12:43 <grimrc1> ohhhh I did see that file mentioned 13:14:10 *** grimrc1 is now known as GrimRC[away] 13:14:20 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N881P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [] 13:14:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 13:15:49 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N881P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:25:22 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:26:34 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 13:30:18 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Quit: ) td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ (] 13:31:33 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 13:33:10 <RnS|Aerandir> when I load my games I start as a new company not as the one I build last time I played 13:33:13 <RnS|Aerandir> how can I change this? 13:34:50 <RnS|Aerandir> Sacro you might know 13:35:06 <Sacro> from multiplayer? 13:35:10 <RnS|Aerandir> no 13:35:11 <Sacro> cheat - ctrl+alt+c 13:35:13 <RnS|Aerandir> singleplayer 13:35:23 <Sacro> is it MiniIN 13:36:08 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 13:36:28 <RnS|Aerandir> I had the same name in my multiplayergame as I did in my singleplayer game and now I cant join my singleplayer company 13:36:39 <RnS|Aerandir> instead it starts a new company when I load my savefile 13:37:55 *** jonty-comp [jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:09 <RnS|Aerandir> anyone? :( 13:40:51 <Sacro> hmm, not really sure 13:41:09 <RnS|Aerandir> perhaps its a bug? 13:41:18 <Sacro> could be 13:41:25 <RnS|Aerandir> who is the developers? you know? 13:41:29 <RnS|Aerandir> who are 13:42:11 <RnS|Aerandir> be back in an hour 13:43:50 <Sacro> errm, there are quite a few 13:44:10 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.72.164.148.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 13:45:46 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:12 <JohnUK89> Sacro: you never got an answer to "is it MiniIN?" 13:47:31 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti131310a080-13372.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:49:10 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 13:50:37 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 13:50:41 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 13:53:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c24.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:56:48 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:07 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:12 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:45 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176101088.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:01:45 <Ammler> RnS|Aerandir: You can change in SP the player with the cheat window 14:02:24 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:02:25 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:06:48 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 14:08:25 *** Noldo_ [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 14:10:20 *** Noldo [vheino@lame.lut.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:11:12 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #openttd 14:18:49 <Sacro> [14:55] * Bjarni has quit (Quit: Leaving) <- thought it was quiet 14:19:19 *** Prof_Frink is now known as BRIAN_BLESSED 14:19:26 <BRIAN_BLESSED> IT'S NOT QUITET! 14:19:50 *** BRIAN_BLESSED is now known as Prof_Frink 14:19:53 <JohnUK89> ZOMG!!!!! 14:20:02 <torm> omgwtflol! 14:20:11 <smeding_> :o 14:20:16 *** smeding_ is now known as smeding 14:20:59 <Sacro> omgwtfbbq 14:21:12 <Sacro> !seen brian_blessed 14:21:22 <Sacro> !seen brian* 14:21:34 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:21:37 <Sacro> [14:59] * _42_ has quit (Ping timeout: 480 seconds) <- no bot :( 14:22:29 <peter1138> GORDON'S ALIVE! 14:23:42 <Sacro> Despatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body 14:28:14 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 14:28:28 <JohnUK89> YAY! BOT! ^_^ 14:28:58 <Sacro> !seen BRIAN_BLESSED 14:29:00 <_42_> Sacro, Hum... don't you think this nick is a bit long? ^_^ 14:29:08 <Sacro> :o 14:29:12 <Sacro> !seen Sacro 14:29:13 <_42_> Sacro, do you have a split personality? *eg* 14:29:17 <Sacro> !seen Bjarni 14:29:17 <JohnUK89> !seen BRIAN* 14:29:19 <_42_> Sacro, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46c24.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen joining #openttd.tgp 6 hours 11 minutes ago (04.09. 08:17), but Bjarni mysteriously dematerialized. 14:29:21 <_42_> JohnUK89, I found 2 matches to your query: Brianetta, Brianett1. Brianetta (~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk) was last seen quitting #openttdcoop 13 hours 51 minutes ago (04.09. 00:38) stating "Quit: Tschüß" after spending 9 hours 5 minutes there. 14:29:26 <Sacro> pmsl 14:29:31 <JohnUK89> lol 14:29:42 <Sacro> Bjarni mysteriously dematerialized. <- that cant be good 14:34:16 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC598F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:04 <peter1138> it's his punishment for committing compiler warnings 14:38:29 <Darkvater> :O 14:39:05 <Darkvater> hmm I've asked Shuttle if a certain gfx-card will fit into one of their barebones 14:39:11 <Darkvater> do you guys think the answer is a yes or a no? 14:39:14 <Darkvater> due to the dimensions, this card will fit into the SN27P2. 14:39:14 <Darkvater> We have a list with tested hardware on our website. Here is 14:39:15 <Darkvater> a link to the list: 14:39:30 <Darkvater> very weird ingrisch 14:41:42 <Sacro> mmm, shuttles 14:42:24 <ln-> Darkvater: http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/09/04/1227227.shtml 14:42:36 <ln-> http://www.openttd.org/donate.php 14:42:58 <Sacro> ln-: does that affect us? 14:43:24 <ln-> Sacro: dunno, that's why i pasted the link. 14:44:15 <Sacro> "Joysticks and keyboards, after all, do let you play import games and enhance the game experience. So do monitors." haha 14:44:29 <Sacro> :o oh noes, OEM windows 14:44:31 <lws1984> :p 14:44:48 <Darkvater> Paypal has informed us that all software capable of playing a game on a 'system it was not sold for' is in violation 14:44:50 <Sacro> cos with OEM you need hardware, and with hardware you can play imported games 14:44:59 <Sacro> Darkvater: oops 14:45:17 <Sacro> and OpenTTD does do that :( 14:45:25 <Sacro> or does it... 14:45:40 <Darkvater> donnu, openttd IS the game 14:46:15 <Sacro> palm pc, pocket pc, morpos. amigaos, psp 14:46:19 <Darkvater> but this only applies to Sony/Sega and Nintendo 14:46:27 <ln-> still, the graphics are also quite an essential part of the game. 14:46:28 <Sacro> but it was sold on pc, which covers the rest... 14:47:03 <Darkvater> Paypal says nothing about Atari 14:47:19 <ln-> and OpenTTD is capable of playing a game (i.e. showing the graphics) on a system it (the graphics) was not sold for. 14:47:19 <Darkvater> it *DOES* tell me I cannot sell illegal drugs 14:47:43 <Sacro> Darkvater: damn...ill cancel my order then! 14:48:14 <ln-> orudge: highlight to you too. 14:48:21 <orudge> me? 14:48:32 <Sacro> orudge: no, t'other one 14:48:35 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:48:37 <orudge> What? 14:48:46 * orudge is going to have to reboot, his HD is still being a silly bugger 14:48:58 <Sacro> orudge: slashdot link above 14:49:23 *** jonty-comp [Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:49:33 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 14:50:49 <Sacro> Darkvater: shuttles arent badly priced it seems 14:51:21 <Darkvater> Sacro: it's a rip-off though 14:51:32 <Darkvater> you can get them in the US for as low as 0 14:51:48 <Darkvater> but in Holland, the lowest I found was 400 14:51:49 <Darkvater> EUR 14:51:52 <Darkvater> :( 14:52:04 <Sacro> Darkvater: mmm, its hard getting decently priced stuff in the UK 14:52:22 <Sacro> i might import myself a Mac Pro from the US 14:53:13 <Darkvater> well S&H was 0, making it almost as expensive as here 14:53:27 <Darkvater> so unfair 14:53:34 <Sacro> yeah, i know 14:53:49 <Sacro> i need a new system for my degree 14:55:29 *** orudge [~orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 14:58:19 <lws1984> he's... GONE! 14:58:41 <Sacro> hmmm, MBP 14:58:52 <lws1984> aye, wait for teh new ones 14:59:17 <Sacro> actually, i dont want a mac 15:01:38 <Prof_Frink> Yes, you do. 15:02:04 <ln-> Darkvater: how much donations have been received, and who gets them? 15:02:23 <Sacro> ln-: i think orudge gets them 15:02:34 <Darkvater> they go straight into the fireplace to warm my cold feet 15:02:42 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:02:48 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:02:59 <Darkvater> orudge gets them in a seperate paypal account. It was about 250 or something at the start of summer 15:08:45 <ln-> pounds or euros or dollars? 15:09:03 <ln-> though the "or something" probably makes the unit irrelevant. :) 15:09:09 <Darkvater> I think it was euros 15:09:16 <Darkvater> but we can ask orudge when he rebootz 15:09:41 <ln-> how has it been used? 15:10:04 <Darkvater> not 15:11:25 <Sacro> incoming orudge 15:11:38 <Darkvater> everyone, quick hide! 15:11:47 * JohnUK89 hides 15:12:07 * lws1984 hides 15:12:17 <lws1984> behind JohnUK89, natrually 15:12:24 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: I didn't set up UberScript properly!] 15:12:24 * ln- starts cloaking device 15:12:31 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:12:43 *** orudge [~orudge@host81-132-175-237.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 15:12:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 15:13:08 <ln-> orudge: 17:42 < ln-> Darkvater: http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/09/04/1227227.shtml 15:13:12 <ln-> 17:42 < ln-> http://www.openttd.org/donate.php 15:13:49 * orudge saw 15:13:54 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6377 /trunk/ (vehicle_gui.c vehicle_gui.h): 15:13:54 <CIA-2> -Codechange: Set up the widgets in the WE_CREATE instead of on every WE_PAINT 15:13:54 <CIA-2> -Codechange: Initialize sorting-type on WE_CREATE instead of checking every time. 15:13:54 <CIA-2> -Codechange: Update custom vehiclelist_d with standard list_d struct, more static 15:14:03 <Born_Acorn> I'm blind, so I didn't. 15:14:33 <lws1984> We Create! :p 15:14:51 <orudge> Born_Acorn: quakenet /query ! 15:15:02 <Born_Acorn> Ye! 15:15:03 <ln-> orudge: what will money donated to OpenTTD be used on? 15:15:18 <orudge> ln-: As of yet, nobody seems to have decided. 15:15:22 <orudge> Born_Acorn: hm, you died. 15:15:27 <Sacro> orudge: my new pc? 15:15:32 <Born_Acorn> Yes. 15:15:34 * Sacro will accept donations 15:15:38 * lws1984 will too 15:15:40 <Sacro> and Born_Acorn seems to agree 15:15:57 * Born_Acorn has his own charity organisation. 15:16:08 <Born_Acorn> The Born_Acorn society for things Born_Acorn wants. 15:16:19 * lws1984 donates a penny 15:16:29 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 15:16:40 * Sacro e-mails some pr0n 15:16:52 <lws1984> ack! sacro pr0ns! 15:16:53 * lws1984 hides 15:17:04 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6378 /trunk/ (6 files): -Codechange: Rename VLW_FLAGS to VLW_MASK as it is a mask 15:18:30 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:31 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:19:11 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 15:20:31 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:20 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 15:27:22 * Sacro thinks about starting a MiniIN server 15:28:54 <peter1138> go on 15:29:00 <Sacro> hmm, i think something is broken http://openttd.org/downloads/MiniIN 15:30:21 <Sacro> 3979 isnt it 15:38:53 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:36 <CIA-2> Darkvater * r6379 /trunk/ (9 files): -Codechange: cast 'remove babel' on widget's unkA and rename it to 'data'. 15:45:37 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:48:41 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [] 15:48:46 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:49:07 <Sacro> whooo, a server is going 15:49:22 <Sacro> however only i know the grfs and password 15:49:28 <hylje> mwahaha? 15:50:31 <Sacro> hylje: yes :P 15:52:05 <Sacro> ~MiniIN 15:52:07 <Sacro> !MiniIN 15:55:06 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 15:55:12 <Sacro> oh noes 15:55:24 <JohnUK89> That's really really old now 15:55:25 <JohnUK89> lol 15:55:50 <Sacro> so :P 15:55:58 <JohnUK89> Mind you, so is the game I'm playing atm... 15:56:03 <hylje> :E 15:56:07 <hylje> o rly 15:56:13 <Sacro> ya rly 15:56:16 <JohnUK89> yer rly :P 15:56:46 <JohnUK89> Sacro: how do you know? You don't know what game I'm playing 15:56:48 <JohnUK89> :P 15:58:50 <Sacro> lol 15:59:11 <JohnUK89> Have a guess ;-) 15:59:32 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: LUNCH!] 16:06:39 *** Sionide [~sphinx@86.13.82.163] has quit [Quit: /quit] 16:08:10 <Sacro> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=8198 :D 16:10:49 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 16:17:09 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:42 <Zavior> !!!!!! 16:18:43 <Zavior> :OO 16:18:46 <Zavior> Is dat true 16:19:03 <Zavior> Sacro, ukrs or anything? 16:20:31 <hylje> nobody knows 16:20:32 <hylje> but sacro 16:22:59 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:23:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:23:16 <Zavior> Sacro, how can one play thar :o 16:25:47 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 16:25:51 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 16:28:33 <Sacro> Sacro: mwahaha 16:28:46 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 16:29:08 <Zavior> ;U 16:32:11 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:21 <Sacro> Zavior: is impossible 16:32:24 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 16:32:32 <Zavior> Lies :O 16:32:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host3-235.pool870.interbusiness.it] has joined #openttd 16:33:06 <Wolf01> hi 16:33:30 <Sacro> Zavior: no its true, i stopped it 16:33:40 <Sacro> oh noes, an italian :p 16:33:56 <Zavior> Sacro, when will it be playable? <: 16:34:59 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC7D14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:59 <Wolf01> sacro doing something? ahahahah 16:35:14 <AsterixMG> hi Wolf01 16:35:17 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:35:27 <Wolf01> hi AsterixMG 16:35:41 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 16:35:47 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176125219.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:36:05 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 16:36:15 <Sacro> Zavior: when i stop playing guitar,,post a list of needed newgrfs and start the server... 16:36:27 <Zavior> :< 16:36:59 <AsterixMG> Sacro, do you think playing guitar protects you from italians? :P 16:37:14 <Born_Acorn> It did in the 70's. 16:37:31 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:21 <Sacro> AsterixMG: im hoping so, that and the fact im on an island 16:38:34 <Sacro> im hoping that they cant swim 16:38:35 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176101088.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:58 <JohnUK89> Sacro: they can hop on a plane ;-) 16:39:12 <JohnUK89> Or that wonderful thing called a SHIP! :o 16:39:35 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC598F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:39:56 <Wolf01> or just use the little tunnel under the sea 16:39:57 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F963.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:40:10 <Sacro> oh noes :( 16:40:11 <JohnUK89> Wolf01: yes, there's always that 16:40:32 <JohnUK89> But Sacro, you can get the children of Hull to protect you ;-) 16:40:47 <AsterixMG> !seen Bjarni 16:40:47 <_42_> AsterixMG, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46c24.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen joining #openttd.tgp 8 hours 22 minutes ago (04.09. 08:17), but Bjarni mysteriously dematerialized. 16:40:57 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC501B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:13 <Sacro> AsterixMG: he dematerialized hours ago 16:41:21 <AsterixMG> hmm, he didn't came back after dematerializing :/ 16:41:30 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:38 <AsterixMG> i wanted him to look at my stats-patch 16:42:21 <AsterixMG> seems to be a long outdoor-mission 16:44:04 <Wolf01> 0 [main] make 2736 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to make.exe.stackdump 16:44:04 <Wolf01> Segmentation fault (core dumped) 16:44:04 <Wolf01> groan -.- 16:44:37 <AsterixMG> Wolf01, what are you trying to do? 16:44:48 <Sacro> i hope its not a boat... 16:45:02 <Wolf01> i don't know why i have to compile 2 times 16:45:03 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 16:45:12 <Wolf01> it crashes every time 16:46:00 <Wolf01> luckily it continues from the crash and not from the beginning 16:46:05 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC7D14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:13 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:58 <AsterixMG> hmm, sounds like some sort of overflow then 16:50:14 <Sacro> ahh the sickopedia 16:50:22 <Sacro> *sickipedia even 16:54:41 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:54 <Born_Acorn> Stickypedia! 16:56:39 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC69AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:57:45 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:05 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC501B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:09 *** RnS|Aerandir [~Magic.pow@h112n2c1o1039.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )] 17:15:24 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:18:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83B5A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82CBA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:19:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:20:15 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:21:06 *** ChrisM87__ [~ChrisM@p54AC6C2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:10 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:22:55 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:22:56 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:23:02 <Sacro> HES BACK 17:23:12 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 17:23:18 * JohnUK89 hides 17:25:08 <Bjarni> Sacro: what do you want? 17:25:19 <Bjarni> AsterixMG: what do you want? 17:25:21 <Sacro> [17:43] <_42_> AsterixMG, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50a46c24.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen joining #openttd.tgp 8 hours 22 minutes ago (04.09. 08:17), but Bjarni mysteriously dematerialized. 17:25:35 *** ChrisM87_ [~ChrisM@p54AC69AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:39 <Bjarni> o_O 17:25:42 *** GrimRC[away] [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:25:48 <Sacro> yes... 17:26:05 <Bjarni> stupid bot 17:26:13 <Bjarni> now my transporter is not a secret anymore 17:26:24 <JohnUK89> lol 17:26:24 *** ChrisM87___ [~ChrisM@p54AC7AB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:28:48 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p508187E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:30:31 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p508187E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:37 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6380 /trunk/ (8 files in 2 dirs): 17:30:37 <CIA-2> -Codechange: unify all ways to quit OTTD. 17:30:37 <CIA-2> This means that in the intro menu the 'Quit' button immediatelly quits 17:30:37 <CIA-2> and the 'Quit' in the menu of the normal game and scenario editor 17:30:37 <CIA-2> immediatelly quits when the 'autosave_on_exit' patch is turned on. 17:30:38 <CIA-2> This is the same way as the OS/window manager initiated quits, like 17:30:40 <CIA-2> alt-F4 and the 'x' in the (OS/window manager drawn) title bar of OTTD. 17:30:50 *** ChrisM87__ [~ChrisM@p54AC6C2D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:52 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, you rematerializing crashed my mozilla ;) 17:32:05 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, anyway, could you have a look/comment on this: http://mitglied.lycos.de/kuttler/ottd/station_stats_3.diff 17:34:18 <Bjarni> and how much will you pay me to do that? 17:37:10 <AsterixMG> you don't have to, if you dont want to 17:38:40 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 17:43:08 <Bjarni> well, I'm busy right now 17:43:29 <Sacro> lies 17:43:57 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 17:44:06 <Bjarni> it's true 17:44:23 <Sacro> :o lies 17:44:38 <Zavior> :O 17:44:50 <Zavior> Is it playable now =o 17:45:06 <Sacro> what? 17:45:10 <Zavior> Joor servarr 17:45:21 <AsterixMG> oh, he stopped playing guitar it seems :P 17:45:26 <Zavior> ;) 17:45:30 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:46:05 <Sacro> my laptop is being useless :( 17:46:42 <glx> you can't fry eggs on it now? 17:47:41 <AsterixMG> Sacro, you use your laptop as a guitar? 17:48:26 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.60.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49:07 <Sacro> glx: i dunno, cpu temp is wedged at 1°C 17:49:14 <Sacro> feels like around 55 17:49:52 * SpComb pats his X40 17:49:57 <SpComb> doesn't heat up 17:50:23 <SpComb> fan only spins every now and then, but it rarely gets more than warm 17:51:43 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:04 <Sacro> ARRGGHH FSCK 17:54:11 <Sacro> wheres the devs? 17:54:11 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:29 * lws1984 points 17:54:32 <lws1984> over there! 17:54:46 <Sacro> i have a distinct lack of goto clickablility 17:55:10 <AsterixMG> Sacro, miniin or trunk 17:55:15 <Sacro> MiniIN 17:55:37 <Rubidium> Sacro: known issue, already fixed in svn 17:56:02 <Sacro> Rubidium: thanks 18:01:33 <Bjarni> ok, now I got better time 18:01:59 <Bjarni> finished writing my report of supervision I did on the rolling stock today 18:02:05 * Sacro considers NewCollisions 18:02:27 <AsterixMG> rolling stock? 18:02:37 <Sacro> Dear Mr Important Person... today i sat and watched some trains go by, they where pretty, the end... 18:03:21 <Bjarni> AsterixMG: yeah... rolling stock, DMU, train, vehicle.... call it what you want ;) 18:04:06 <Bjarni> actually it's not a real DMU... 18:05:16 <AsterixMG> hehe, translation "rolling stock" to german and back to english with google gives "work materials" :P 18:06:06 <Bjarni> ok... that's not quite what I was looking at :P 18:07:12 <Sacro> haha, i discovered a way to upset trains 18:07:18 <Bjarni> http://www.veterantoget.dk/materiel/motor/foto/lnj_m4_1.jpg <-- this one. Call it what you like, but I call it by name ;) 18:07:34 <Bjarni> <Sacro> haha, i discovered a way to upset trains <-- s/trains/everything 18:07:38 <Bjarni> and we already knew that :P 18:08:03 <Sacro> multiply wagon limits by 255 18:08:10 <Sacro> and tell a train going downhill to stop 18:08:12 <Sacro> it cant!!! 18:08:21 <Sacro> the writing goes red but the train still speeds up 18:08:55 <Frostregen> cool :) 18:09:18 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, looks cool... now if we had such graphics in ottd... 18:09:34 <Bjarni> I tried to draw it 18:09:37 <Bjarni> I failed :( 18:09:47 * Bjarni thinks that Sacro edit his source and made an overflow 18:11:42 <AsterixMG> playing around with miniin you shouldn't wonder if you get some weird results :) 18:12:32 <Sacro> Bjarni: nope 18:20:20 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.146.96] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:20:53 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:22:08 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:26:33 *** Progman [~progman@p5091F963.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:33 <Wolf01> yeah my dsl is back to 500-600kbps :D 18:30:28 <AsterixMG> did the tecnician finally help? 18:36:43 <Wolf01> maybe, maybe my threats have been heard 18:38:13 <Jucciz> I just movedt to a new apartment, 100Mbps here <3 18:38:17 <Jucciz> moved 18:38:27 <Jucciz> costs 10euro/month 18:39:45 <Wolf01> 19EUR for a stupid 33kbps err.. 640kbps adsl 18:39:46 <hylje> :< 18:40:00 <Jucciz> heh 18:43:45 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:43:52 <Bjarni> oh yeah, the diff 18:43:55 <Bjarni> I almost forogt 18:43:55 <Brianetta> hnnngraaaaargh! 18:44:08 * Brianetta throws a Smurf at Bjarni 18:45:10 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 18:45:36 * Bjarni smurfs Brianetta 18:46:12 * Brianetta takes the smurf, puts it in a condom, inflates the condom, knots the end and sets the smurf adrift on an endless sea of sewerage. 18:46:26 <Bjarni> o_O 18:47:29 <Wolf01> like an hamster in his ball :O 18:47:56 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 18:48:00 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 18:53:19 <Sacro> Brianetta: floating it down the tyne? 18:53:32 <Brianetta> Sacro: The Tyne's clean 18:53:40 <Sacro> Brianetta: humber it is then 18:54:00 <Sacro> grrr, i just tried to clean a spot of dirt off the screen, before realising it was the curser 18:54:15 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54:16 <hylje> :> 18:54:44 <Sacro> Brianetta: i think you should run a MiniIN server 18:57:21 <Brianetta> Sacro: Yes, I know. 18:57:42 <Sacro> :) 18:58:28 <Brianetta> Eddie is dead 19:00:09 <Sacro> Eddie? 19:00:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82CBA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 19:00:24 <valhalla1w> anyone here that knows a good sql join tutorial? 19:00:28 <valhalla1w> who* 19:00:34 <Brianetta> The dog in Frasier 19:00:46 <Sacro> :o MOOSE 19:01:19 <Brianetta> http://www.dogsrule.co.uk/blog/famous-dogs/eddie-from-fraser-dies/ 19:02:22 <pv2b> that's nothing 19:02:22 <Sacro> was june 22nd 19:02:24 <pv2b> Steve Irwin is dead 19:02:37 <Sacro> yeah, but moose was liked 19:03:12 * AsterixMG liked Steve Irwin 19:04:07 <Bjarni> he should not have gone to sea 19:04:23 <Bjarni> he was a bushman/swampman 19:04:28 <Bjarni> not a seaman/diver 19:08:06 <Sacro> he was an arse 19:08:43 <Bjarni> he was reckless 19:10:07 <Sacro> mm 19:10:23 <Bjarni> he died in action, which also shows signs of being reckless 19:11:14 <Sacro> i wonder if it was filmed 19:11:49 * Trenskow is installing freedos 1.0 19:11:57 <Trenskow> happy to see how good it is 19:12:07 <JohnUK89> Trenskow: 1.0 is out?? 19:12:16 <Trenskow> JohnUK89, yea from today 19:12:16 <hylje> he was reckless, which also shows signs of being reckless. he was also reckless. 19:12:31 <JohnUK89> Nice one! *heads over* 19:12:36 <Trenskow> ;) 19:13:27 <JohnUK89> Hmm, freedos.org appears to be dead 19:14:20 <AsterixMG> JohnUK89, too much people wanting the same thing is always bad ;) 19:14:28 <JohnUK89> AsterixMG: yeah :-\ 19:14:36 *** Guest56 [Gono@N723P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:14:37 <Trenskow> JohnUK89, no problem here 19:15:11 <JohnUK89> Trenskow: damnit :-S 19:15:44 <JohnUK89> Right I need food, bbs 19:16:38 <AsterixMG> JohnUK89, hmm, opera tells me it cant reach freedos.org, but mozilla happily loads it :P 19:17:13 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:37 <Sacro> AsterixMG: yeah, and wget cant grab the files 19:23:10 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N881P027.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:10 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 19:23:22 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:57 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:59 <Bjarni> AsterixMG: I forgot... what was the purpose of the patch you sent me? 19:32:16 <AsterixMG> Bjarni, it counts stats for how much vehicles visit a station (part of the statistics patch) 19:33:32 <AsterixMG> dont tell me its too big already, i already left out most of it, to be integrated later ;) 19:33:39 <Bjarni> so basically it counts how many vehicles of each type visits a station each month? 19:33:59 <AsterixMG> yes, thats (currently) all it does 19:35:47 <Bjarni> <AsterixMG> dont tell me its too big already, i already left out most of it, to be integrated later ;) <-- well, I didn't say that and patches are allowed to have the needed size for the feature they bring. It's more like don't make a patch, that adds this counter, counter for all cargo types, fix a bug you saw along the way and code cleanups 19:35:59 *** Osai^Kendo is now known as Osai 19:36:18 <Bjarni> the important part is that it's easy to read the diff and see how the code is relevant for the purpose 19:36:59 *** Guest6958183 [~Peach@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [] 19:37:25 <AsterixMG> well, its the counting and displaying in one patch, but i think only adding one of them is futile 19:40:06 <Bjarni> no, we want an internal counter with no way to display it and then never commit anything regarding this :P 19:44:20 <Trenskow> damn. dos has become quite advanced 19:44:24 <Trenskow> (freedos) 19:45:11 <JohnUK89> Back :) 19:46:18 <JohnUK89> Bloody ell 156MB for FreeDOS now... 19:46:56 <Trenskow> JohnUK89, i found a 200+ version 19:47:02 <AsterixMG> i downloaded the basecd which is only 8MB 19:47:11 <JohnUK89> That's the one with sources, Trenskow 19:47:15 <AsterixMG> Trenskow, thats the one with sourcecodes :) 19:47:20 <Trenskow> hehe 19:47:21 <JohnUK89> AsterixMG: I want the full experience ;-) 19:47:26 <Trenskow> which i skipped duringn install :D 19:48:25 <AsterixMG> JohnUK89, maybe i download the full-cd at some time, too... but now ill first download bochs 19:48:34 <ln-> who has expertise in sound files here? 19:48:53 <JohnUK89> Asterix, I have a P1 that I can experiment with it on :) 19:49:08 <Bjarni> ln-: don't look at me 19:49:18 <Bjarni> you know more than I do about sound files :p 19:50:11 <ln-> can someone figure out how to play these SND files properly: http://jpl.yi.org/kuulutuksia/ (it's 8-bit sound with sampling rate about 9000 Hz, with some encoding). 19:50:44 <ln-> the best result so far has been achieved with: sox -t vox -r 18000 orig.snd orig.wav 19:52:02 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:28 <JohnUK89> OK I'm gonna leave that overnight :P 19:58:16 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 19:59:06 *** minerito [~dfdsfsdf@97.Red-83-60-177.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:06 *** DJ_Mirage [~martijn@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:15 <Hagbard_> Hey! 19:59:17 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202.154.147.176] has joined #openttd 20:00:35 <Hagbard_> Anyone here knwoing howto compile OTTD on Linux? It's complaining about Binary path... 20:00:52 <Hagbard_> But I don't wich path that should be... 20:01:07 <ln-> yeah, type "make" 20:01:29 <JohnUK89> Hagbard_: make sure all compilation tools are installed (eg gcc, make, etc) and just type "make" 20:02:06 <Hagbard_> JohnUK89: Doesn't work... It's complaining about the Binary path! 20:02:10 <Hagbard_> FFS READ! 20:02:17 *** nycom [~caribou27@AToulon-151-1-90-247.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:02:28 <JohnUK89> Binary path of what?? 20:02:33 <Hagbard_> Just typing make don't work that... 20:02:38 <Hagbard_> I don't know 20:02:56 <glx> paste the message 20:03:04 <JohnUK89> Well a copy of the output you get would help, as glx said 20:03:05 <Hagbard_> in Makefile.cfg it's BINARY_DIR= 20:03:16 <Hagbard_> Makefile:986: *** no binary path set - check Makefile.config. Stop. 20:03:49 <Trenskow> i miss arj :d 20:03:52 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:04:38 <glx> Hagbard_: hmm you typed "make install" don't you? 20:04:44 <Hagbard_> Yep 20:04:50 <Hagbard_> I have done make already 20:04:55 <ln-> gaaaaah 20:05:06 <glx> "make install" doesn't work very well 20:05:14 <Hagbard_> glx: No shit 20:05:21 <Hagbard_> How should I do then? 20:05:25 <JohnUK89> make install is a bad idea with OpenTTD at the moment 20:05:35 <JohnUK89> Just create a symlink somewhere :P 20:05:35 <ln-> Hagbard_: why do you ask about compiling if compiling went just fine? 20:05:47 <Hagbard_> I just wanna have it installed at /home/hagbard/openttd 20:05:55 <Hagbard_> ln-: make is just preparing right? 20:06:05 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:06:06 <JohnUK89> make does the actual compilation 20:06:21 <ln-> Hagbard_: wrong. 20:06:37 <Hagbard_> But howto make it to a special path then? 20:07:09 <Hagbard_> Ok... Doing make now.. 20:07:21 <Hagbard_> It's kinda slow ;) 20:07:25 <Rubidium> Hagbard_: just copy the complete directory, with all the sourcefiles to /home/hagbard/openttd 20:07:49 <glx> [22:07:23] <Hagbard_> It's kinda slow ;) <-- known fact :) 20:07:56 <Hagbard_> Hehe... :D 20:08:18 <Hagbard_> Well... Not asking for it to be fast on a 1.5GHz Intel Pentium 4... :) 20:08:42 <Hagbard_> But it could be a bit faster! :D 20:08:51 <Hagbard_> It's c++ coding right? 20:09:06 <glx> plain C, with some C++ files 20:09:09 <Hagbard_> Ok 20:09:44 *** nycom [~caribou27@AToulon-151-1-90-247.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 20:09:55 <Hagbard_> w00t 20:10:35 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 20:10:39 <Hagbard_> http://pastebin.ca/160884 <-- Help needed 20:11:08 <glx> you need zlib-devel 20:11:26 *** jonty-comp [~Jonty@88-107-55-18.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:37 <Hagbard_> zlib1g-dev ? On Ubuntu 20:12:25 <Rubidium> sounds right 20:12:42 <Hagbard_> Installing and trying again... :) 20:12:44 <Rubidium> and when you're at it, make sure you have libpng-dev and libsdl-dev 20:13:24 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:13:36 *** Wolfy [~wolf@d197184.upc-d.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:13:37 <Hagbard_> SDL i have... 20:13:54 <Hagbard_> make won't start if it doesn't detect sdl... :D 20:14:18 <glx> it can start but only for dedicated server compilation :) 20:15:13 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp24-177.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 20:15:32 <Hagbard_> Yep... And I'm not doing that! :D 20:17:10 <Bjarni> lol 20:17:21 <Hagbard_> What do I need to copy to the "rigth" path? 20:17:28 <Bjarni> nycom joined, send a CTCP TIME and VERSION to me and left 20:17:39 <Bjarni> didn't say anything 20:18:02 <Hagbard_> Why did we move to OFTC? 20:18:10 <Bjarni> freenode sucks 20:18:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.6/2006072814]] 20:18:14 <Hagbard_> Why? 20:18:43 <Bjarni> we decided to move the day it flooded me out 4 times. I was idle 3 of the times 20:19:09 <glx> and lilo spams too much 20:19:26 <Bjarni> since he had already talked about it due to a lot of issues, we decided to start moving the 2nd time I flooded out 20:20:15 <Hagbard_> What's so good about OFTC then? 20:20:29 <Bjarni> it have yet to flood me out :) 20:20:29 <ln-> no lilo spam. 20:20:32 <glx> PM without registration 20:20:40 <Hagbard_> Ok 20:20:41 <Hagbard_> Welll 20:20:44 <Hagbard_> Of.. 20:20:45 <Hagbard_> off* 20:21:09 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:21:41 <glx> Hagbard_: compiled fine? 20:22:11 <Hagbard_> glx: Yep 20:26:44 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 20:26:51 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-070-124.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:27:37 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:28:56 * JohnUK89 thinks "oh shit!" 20:29:53 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:34:22 *** Tron_ [VcIGQm4m@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:40:02 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:40:53 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6381 /trunk/ (59 files in 5 dirs): 20:40:53 <CIA-2> -Cleanup: make the '/* */' comments that span multiple lines more uniform. 20:40:53 <CIA-2> -Cleanup: whitespace alignment of a few tables. 20:49:42 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@ACBC4E5E.ipt.aol.com] has quit [] 20:50:44 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6382 /branches/MiniIN/ (87 files in 6 dirs): [MiniIN]: Sync with trunk r6361:6381 20:51:47 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:52:16 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52:33 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:54:07 *** minerito [~dfdsfsdf@97.Red-83-60-177.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 20:55:05 <WolfAngel> nn people... 20:57:37 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.72.164.148.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Quit: '$quit.msg' (without quotes).] 20:58:15 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:59:21 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:01:26 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 21:10:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@81.149.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 21:13:07 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has left #openttd [:---O] 21:14:18 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 21:15:55 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27232 <-- anybody got a clue to what's going on here? 21:16:26 <Bjarni> the computer appears to be at the very high end of notebooks, yet the game is really slow o_O 21:17:21 <lws1984> indeed, and if he can run Mac Trainz, OpenTTD should be less taxing 21:17:23 <lws1984> it was on windows 21:18:10 *** jez [lefrancais@88-96-28-22.dsl.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:19:03 <ln-> Bjarni: what kind of Mac do you have, btw? 21:19:39 <Rubidium> Bjarni: he said he was running Windows Media Player, can that be true? 21:19:47 <Bjarni> a better one than the one I mention there ;) 21:20:31 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:20:34 <Bjarni> <Rubidium> Bjarni: he said he was running Windows Media Player, can that be true? <-- amazingly yes. They made an OSX port, but they forgot to make updates for it, so it's an old version compared to what you can get on windows 21:20:36 <ln-> Rubidium: Yes, it can. 21:20:47 <Rubidium> does his version use SDL or cocoa? 21:20:52 <Bjarni> cocoa 21:21:03 <jez> There seems to be a music bug with OpenTTD 0.4.8 - is this known? Firstly, the game seems to use 'Custom 1' to determine the song to play on startup (should that be the case) and also, when you try to save a playlist, you get the error 'MusicTrackSelectionWndProc:save not implemented'. 21:21:12 <Bjarni> he downloaded the binary, that works just fine for everybody else 21:21:17 <Bjarni> nobody else complained about the speed 21:21:24 <Rubidium> I can imagine that two overlays will not work and that openttd has to revert to a slower method of painting 21:21:41 <Bjarni> hmm 21:21:44 <Bjarni> that's possible 21:23:08 <Rubidium> is he using a savegame? or does he start a new game when he tests it? 21:24:00 <Rubidium> did he try a nightly; his first post is not clear about that 21:24:58 <Rubidium> does he, by chance, have timidity or so midi-emulator that might cause the jerks?, i.e. what happens with 'openttd -m null -s null'? 21:25:08 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 21:25:50 <AsterixMG> he says it doesn't matter whether savedgame or newgame 21:26:13 *** Hagbard_ [~hagbardde@81-235-254-217-no24.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: I'm so great!] 21:26:53 <Bjarni> he is using 0.4.8 and that binary uses quicktime for midi player 21:27:16 <Bjarni> it's fairly fast and threaded. It should not make that powerful computer that slow 21:28:12 <Rubidium> but if he tries it without it, you can (maybe) scrap a possible cause ;) 21:29:03 <Bjarni> how can that be the cause? It's really fast for me, even in debug builds 21:29:36 <Rubidium> a broken quicktime? 21:30:22 <Bjarni> he reinstalled the system to solve this, so no 21:30:29 <Bjarni> also it shows that he really wants this to work 21:30:53 <Rubidium> AsterixMG: I cannot find anything in the whole thread where he says something about using a saved game of a new one 21:31:17 <AsterixMG> did you refresh the thread, Rubidium ? :) 21:31:39 <Bjarni> Rubidium: refresh 21:31:40 <AsterixMG> i asked if he used a savegame and he already answered 21:31:53 <Bjarni> he is out there replying right away right now 21:31:54 <Rubidium> hmm, I guess my proxy has borked ;) 21:32:02 <AsterixMG> lol 21:32:37 <Nigel> meh, i've now got a train that is stuck as 'stopped' 21:33:11 <Bjarni> Nigel: how did you manage to do that? 21:33:32 <Rubidium> what about comparing the md5sum of the binary? 21:33:34 <Nigel> I think i clicked stop too many times 21:33:42 <Bjarni> lol 21:33:47 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:33:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host3-235.pool870.interbusiness.it] has quit [] 21:34:11 <Bjarni> Nigel: I don't know how that should be possible 21:34:16 <AsterixMG> maybe we should tell him to come on irc... would save the time to post to the thread ;) 21:34:22 *** ChrisM87___ [~ChrisM@p54AC7AB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:35:40 <Nigel> oh well, never the less, mission done 21:36:18 <Nigel> the idea was to basically, get rid of my competitors coal trucks, so now the train is stuck on the crossing 21:36:41 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:37:50 <Nigel> the other thing is, having the train stuck there for some reason isn't costing me anything 21:38:21 <Tron> Rubidium: video/cocoa_v.m:1827 21:38:31 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:19 <Rubidium> Tron: I'm certain I changed that line; probably forgot to safe the file ;( 21:39:33 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has joined #openttd 21:39:34 <CIA-2> richk * r6383 /branches/MiniIN/strgen/strgen_vs80.vcproj: 21:39:34 <CIA-2> [MiniIN]: Fix. Correction to strgen_vs80.vcproj for MSVC. 21:39:34 <CIA-2> Many thanks to mart3p for fix. 21:39:44 <Tron> don't apologize to me, i don't have a mac 21:39:47 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 21:40:57 <Tron> Rubidium: thanks for fixing at least a small part of the total mess of the terrain generator and its droppings 21:41:09 <Bjarni> what about the cocoa video driver? 21:41:16 <Tron> Bjarni: try to compile 21:41:41 <Bjarni> ok 21:42:21 <Bjarni> video/cocoa_v.m:1827: warning: implicit declaration of function 'QZ_AskQuit' 21:42:22 <Bjarni> ahh 21:43:08 <Bjarni> Rubidium: you (CENSORED) >_< 21:43:27 <Tron> i wouldn't be that bold in your place 21:43:35 * Bjarni expects a new commit in a moment 21:43:54 <Bjarni> actually the problem is not really the implicit declaration 21:43:59 <Bjarni> /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: 21:43:59 <Bjarni> _QZ_AskQuit 21:44:04 <Bjarni> that's the problem 21:44:18 <Tron> o rly? nobody would have ever guessed 21:44:52 <Bjarni> that's why I told you ;) 21:45:13 <Bjarni> Rubidium: you do know how to solve this one, right? 21:46:20 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:53 <Rubidium> yup 21:46:57 <Bjarni> nice, otherwise I would have to revert my source to continue working, and that's not really progress ;) 21:47:35 <CIA-2> richk * r6384 /branches/MiniIN/yapf/ (follow_track.hpp yapf_road.cpp): 21:47:35 <CIA-2> [MiniIN]: [YAPF]: Correction to a couple of sync issues. 21:47:35 <CIA-2> 1. Changes to depot finding code for YAPF (r6160) needs to check _patches.shared_depots and IsSisterCompany for subsidiaries. 21:47:35 <CIA-2> 2. Removed my temporary fix for depot finding problem as its not required now r6160 has been synced. 21:47:35 <CIA-2> Many thanks to mart3p for fix. 21:47:50 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6385 /trunk/video/cocoa_v.m: -Fix (r6380): one instance of QZ_AskQuit was left out in the conversion to HandleExitGameRequest. 21:49:58 <Bjarni> now it's back to normal :) 21:53:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387DE17.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:53:21 *** JohnUK89 [~JohnUK89@149.254.200.215] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.11.1 : http://kopete.kde.org] 21:53:58 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 21:54:04 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 22:01:00 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:19 <Tron> Bjarni: you still didn't fix the warning in vehicle.c 22:03:12 <ln-> is that serious? 22:03:35 <Bjarni> I don't get a warning in vehicle.c 22:03:35 <AsterixMG> no 22:03:53 *** Slipstick [~icechat5@12.178.96.91] has joined #openttd 22:04:24 * Bjarni tries a release build to check for warnings 22:04:48 <Slipstick> hello all 22:05:11 <Bjarni> hi Slipstick 22:05:41 <Bjarni> still no warning 22:05:41 <Slipstick> so i was a huge fan of TT and im so happy to find the openTTD project =) 22:05:43 <Slipstick> sweet stuff 22:05:46 <Bjarni> that makes it kind of hard to fix 22:05:50 <Slipstick> need a bit of help getting it to work though 22:05:52 <Bjarni> I have no idea what it is :( 22:05:54 <ln-> i don't get a warning in vehicle.c either. 22:06:04 <ln-> so it must be a bug in Tron's visual perception. 22:06:07 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:06:57 <Bjarni> Tron: you need to tell us what warning it is 22:07:11 <glx> vehicle.c: In function 'GetRefitCost': 22:07:11 <glx> vehicle.c:732: warning: 'base_cost' may be used uninitialized in this function 22:07:20 <glx> in http://nightly.openttd.org/devs/error.log 22:08:00 <Slipstick> i have the DOS version of the original TT and can't find the .grf files 22:08:12 <Slipstick> they're no where to be found in the original folder 22:08:21 <glx> you need dos or windows version of TTD 22:08:32 <glx> not TT 22:08:41 <Slipstick> right.... 22:09:08 <Slipstick> well...can someone help a fan out with those files? 22:09:54 <jez> There seems to be a music bug with OpenTTD 0.4.8 - is this known? Firstly, the game seems to use 'Custom 1' to determine the song to play on startup (should that be the case) and also, when you try to save a playlist, you get the error 'MusicTrackSelectionWndProc:save not implemented'. 22:10:24 <glx> it's simply not implemented :) 22:10:34 <ln-> jez: you are repeating yourself. 22:11:15 <Bjarni> why do the compiler farm get more warnings than we do? 22:11:41 <Slipstick> ....anyone? 22:12:19 <ln-> Slipstick: buy the game or use google. 22:12:24 <AsterixMG> Slipstick, look around at the forums (tt-forums.net), theres help to be found 22:13:00 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:14:09 <jez> i didn't get a response... 22:14:20 <glx> Bjarni: http://glx.dnsalias.net:8080/openttd/settings_gui_c_osx_warning.diff 22:15:14 <ln-> glx: ain't that quite a silly fix.. 22:15:33 * AsterixMG goes to bed now 22:15:39 <AsterixMG> good night @all 22:15:44 *** AsterixMG [~chatzilla@p508187E1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:16:37 <glx> ln-: yes but it seems BSWAP macro doesn't return an uint32 on OSX 22:18:23 <Bjarni> hmm 22:18:25 <Slipstick> the forums are great 22:18:46 * Bjarni decides to look at his byte swap speedup code for OSX 22:18:50 <Bjarni> Slipstick: we know ;) 22:19:19 <Slipstick> im setting this game up for my little sister (11) and couldnt get the old DOS TT to work on any of our XP PCs 22:19:34 <blathijs> Slipstick: try dosbox 22:19:36 <Slipstick> her disappointed face killed me, so now im on a mission to get it to work 22:19:42 <Slipstick> dosbox? 22:19:45 <blathijs> dosbox.sourceforge.net/ 22:20:05 <blathijs> it emulates a PC running dos 22:20:38 <Slipstick> very nice 22:20:57 <Slipstick> whoa, openTTD supports LAN play? 22:21:02 <lws1984> :p 22:21:11 <Slipstick> haha! i remember wishing that when i first played this game years ago 22:21:26 <jez> a new recruit to OpenTTD 22:21:27 <jez> :-) 22:21:39 <glx> Slipstick: and internet play too :) 22:21:43 <jez> i just realised you bastards fixed the bug that allowed me to crash trains into opponents 22:21:46 <jez> now i have to compete?? 22:22:13 <blathijs> jez: Yes, we removed that feature ;-p 22:22:24 <jez> can i still crash trains into road vehicles? 22:22:29 <Slipstick> lol, i may have to get back into a bit myself ;) 22:22:30 <Bjarni> blathijs: it's "feature", not feature ;) 22:22:41 <CIA-2> glx * r6386 /trunk/vehicle.c: -Fix(r6376): removed a warning 22:23:00 <Bjarni> Slipstick: are you simple minded enough to be stored in a single bit??? 22:23:09 <jez> i wouldn't mind competing if the game wasn't silly about it. for instance, your rating should be able to go up to 100% if your vehicle is constantly at the depot 22:23:25 <jez> and unless an opponent is within, say, 10% of your rating, you should be delivered ALL the goods 22:23:30 <jez> otherwise it's too hard to drive an opponent out 22:23:54 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 22:24:00 <Rubidium> jez: just buy exclusive transport rights... 22:24:05 <Slipstick> uhhh..... 22:24:07 <jez> that's darn expensive 22:24:15 <jez> and you have to keep doing it 22:24:21 <jez> cant really take out a competitor that way 22:25:36 <jez> often the AI's stations have tons of goods piled up because they're so bad anyway 22:25:45 <jez> buying exclusive rights just helps them clear out the backlog 22:25:58 <jez> you need a consistent way to cut off their goods, like their rating going against them 22:26:34 <Rubidium> just disabling 90 degree turns make half of their rail networks unuseable 22:26:38 *** Slipstick is now known as Slipstick[A] 22:26:38 * Slipstick[A] is now away - Reason : Trying OpenTTD for the first time. =) 22:26:45 <jez> i kinda like 90 degree turns 22:27:06 <Rubidium> they are very very very inefficient 22:27:17 <jez> in what way? 22:27:32 <glx> reduce train speed 22:27:33 <Rubidium> almost everything 22:27:47 <jez> yeah but sometimes with spaghetti AI track everywhere it's the only way to build 22:27:57 <jez> or just tricky landscape 22:28:13 <Rubidium> they are therefore more expensive than wider bends/corners 22:28:39 <jez> anyway i dont understand the sense of disabling them. as a tile is meant to represent a larger real area, they'd be possible in RL 22:28:41 <jez> they should be allowed 22:30:13 <Rubidium> ever tried to get a real train through such a low radius bend? 22:31:08 <jez> me? no. :-P 22:31:18 <jez> depends on the scale of each tile, of course 22:31:22 <Rubidium> and because short bends reduce the speed of the train, the income is less and the throughput of the track too 22:31:27 <jez> if it's 100m it wouldn't be too tough 22:31:37 <jez> yeah but if i want them i should be able to have them :-P 22:32:12 <glx> just don't disable them then 22:32:20 <Rubidium> 180 degrees with a 75 m radius, then you must go really slow ;) 22:33:29 *** Slipstick[A] is now known as Slipstick 22:33:29 * Slipstick is no longer away : Gone for 6 minutes 51 seconds 22:33:39 *** Slipstick [~icechat5@12.178.96.91] has quit [Quit: There is a byte stuck in my modem!!] 22:34:10 <glx> it seems OpenTTD works for him :) 22:35:21 <jez> heh 22:35:36 <jez> either that or it just crashed his machine 22:35:57 <glx> nah a crash leads to a "ping timeout" :) 22:37:21 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:38:23 <Bjarni> he crashed his modem 22:38:26 <Bjarni> or jammed it 22:38:32 <Bjarni> there is a byte stuck in it 22:38:45 <Bjarni> now he is most likely taking it apart to get it out 22:39:13 *** Mucht is now known as Mucht|zZz 22:39:43 <Bjarni> I just looked at the code to switch endianess on OSX 22:40:20 <Bjarni> it switches endianess of 4 bytes, but it doesn't mention if it's signed or anything, just switch it 22:42:06 <Bjarni> glx: yeah, that diff removed the warning... I was not aware that it was an OSX specific one 22:42:34 <Rubidium> it probably does not mark NOT_REACHED as a non-returning function 22:43:06 <Bjarni> that as well, but I was talking about the warning in settings_gui.c ;) 22:43:39 <Bjarni> settings_gui.c:963: warning: format '%08X' expects type 'unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'long unsigned int' 22:44:33 <glx> Bjarni: I first tried to use "%08lX", but that gave me a warning on mingw, so I tried the other way :) 22:46:41 <glx> Rubidium: NOT_REACHED is just an assume in non debug builds 22:46:47 * Bjarni wonders where the long assignment came from in the first place 22:47:13 <glx> grfid is an uint32 so I don't know 22:49:18 <Bjarni> well, that part is not that important 22:50:03 <Bjarni> feel free to commit this one as it clearly works 22:50:26 <glx> ok 22:50:56 <Bjarni> except if it turns out to be buggy, but I don't think so 22:51:09 <Bjarni> how should it be buggy :) 22:51:43 <glx> check if the display in newgrf window is changed :) 22:52:23 <Bjarni> it appears to be normal 22:52:46 <Bjarni> but I don't have a habit of staring at it at a daily basis ;) 22:53:41 <CIA-2> glx * r6387 /trunk/settings_gui.c: Fix: removed OSX specific warning 22:55:21 *** jez [lefrancais@88-96-28-22.dsl.zen.co.uk] has quit [] 22:55:51 <glx> two non deprecated warnings left, but there are in cocoa_v.m (the file with deprecated stuff :) ) 22:56:05 <Bjarni> don't fix them 22:56:25 <ln-> yeah, that's an order. 22:56:33 <Bjarni> blathijs is working on a more or less complete rewrite of that file and any fixes will clash 22:56:40 <Bjarni> err 22:56:45 <Bjarni> oops 22:56:45 <glx> Bjarni: wrong people :) 22:56:51 <Bjarni> blackis left 22:56:51 <blathijs> hmm? 22:56:55 <blathijs> :-) 22:57:01 <Bjarni> damn tab autocompletion :( 22:57:03 <blathijs> hehe 22:57:11 <blathijs> Bjarni: You are forgiven ;-p 22:57:17 * blathijs is off to bed, good night! 22:57:20 <glx> !seen blackis 22:57:22 <_42_> glx, blackis (~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se) was last seen quitting #openttd 33 minutes ago (04.09. 22:23) stating "Quit: blackis" after spending 7 hours 4 minutes there. 22:57:26 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 22:57:43 <SpComb> moo 22:58:40 <Nigel> you now have to power Electric Railways?L 22:58:56 <glx> hmm? 22:59:11 <Bjarni> Nigel: you have to build catenary if that is what you mean 22:59:50 <Nigel> and where on earth do i find that? 23:00:13 <ln-> don't look at the earth, look at the toolbar instead. 23:00:24 <Bjarni> yeah 23:00:26 <Bjarni> what ln- said 23:01:39 <Bjarni> * SQL error has occured. Please notify the administrator. <-- I think qdb got issues 23:02:04 <Bjarni> ahh 23:02:04 <Bjarni> SQL/DB Error -- [User qdb already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections] 23:03:18 <Nigel> I don't seem to be able to find it 23:03:52 <Nigel> and my chances of finding it on the wiki are low, because i can't seem to access it 23:04:01 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 23:04:04 <glx> Nigel: do you know how to build monorail and maglev ? 23:04:19 <Nigel> yes, i've upgraded, all the rail 23:05:10 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:05:34 <Bjarni> Nigel: then you know how to build electrified railroad 23:05:51 <Nigel> yes, i have, but it still insists that there is no power 23:06:10 <glx> in the depot? 23:06:21 <glx> the depot is converted? 23:07:35 <Nigel> yes, i converted the depot 23:09:15 <Nigel> just as a test, i built a Electric Loco from one of the depots with a "No Power" train, and it works 23:09:45 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-193-174.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:52 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 23:09:59 <Bjarni> http://bash.org/?52087 <-- haha 23:10:09 <Bjarni> different kind of AIM :P 23:11:46 <glx> Nigel: I see, trains power is not updated when depot is upgraded or downgraded 23:13:05 <glx> Nigel: so it's a bug :) 23:14:39 <Bjarni> oh 23:15:03 <Bjarni> bug in elrails+cached power? 23:15:06 <Bjarni> hmm 23:15:45 <Bjarni> Nigel: quick workaround: remove a car and add it again. This will force it to clear the cache 23:16:23 <Bjarni> and recalculate a new cache with the electric locomotive(s) enabled 23:16:30 <glx> remove as "put it on another line" not sell :) 23:16:57 <glx> Bjarni: or disabled in case of downgrading 23:17:00 *** torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:17:47 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.132.217.232] has joined #openttd 23:20:08 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 23:23:27 <Bjarni> the electric trains should be disabled in case there is no catenary 23:23:49 <Bjarni> I already fixed that and added the "No Power" string 23:24:24 <glx> I'm trying to update train power when depot is converted 23:24:45 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.156] has quit [] 23:27:29 <Bjarni> I wonder if that is the right way to do it now. It seems awfully slow to loop all vehicles each time 23:27:56 <glx> you don't convert depot all the time 23:28:19 <Bjarni> no, but when you do, you might convert a whole lot of them 23:29:59 <Bjarni> <eViLegion> my brother was using Word, trying to edit the format of his text, and the bloody paperclip turns up instead... his voice command to it "piss off you little shit"... it deleted 2 paragraphs of text 23:30:10 <Bjarni> that's for using MS products :P 23:30:33 <mikk36> correction: that's for being a dumbass 23:31:28 <Bjarni> same thing 23:36:45 *** tf84 [~Thomas@88.134.185.23] has joined #openttd 23:36:53 *** tf84 [~Thomas@88.134.185.23] has left #openttd [] 23:41:06 *** Ajcon [~ajcon2@83.145.59.26] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:49:21 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca23b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:40 *** TheDancinZerg [~TheDancin@pool-71-108-200-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd