Log for #openttd on 6th September 2006:
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00:00:07  <torm> ln-: and i fsking hate you...
00:00:23  <torm> ooh, that reminds me of Red vs Blue
00:01:10  <torm> "You know what caboose? I fs*king hate you"
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00:03:15  <JohnUK89> Oh noes :P
00:04:04  <Sacro> mm
00:04:09  <Sacro> its farked
00:04:15  <JohnUK89> Laptop?
00:05:03  <Sacro> yup
00:05:16  <JohnUK89> Ack :S
00:05:24  <Sacro> grr, logitech g25 is 0 in US (£165)
00:05:31  <Sacro> but £199 here ><
00:05:36  <JohnUK89> Grrrr
00:05:48  <JohnUK89> G25 being the new kickass wheel?
00:06:33  <Sacro> yes :D
00:06:33  <Sacro> .
00:06:40  <Sacro>
00:06:41  <JohnUK89> I WANT ONE!!!
00:06:47  <Sacro> that shifter is the 2nd best
00:07:12  <Sacro> 900° wheel
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00:08:09  <JohnUK89> Yeah, I have a few mates (All LFS Racers) who use DFP's
00:08:13  <Sacro> that'll go on my student overdraft
00:08:16  <Sacro> DFPs?
00:08:17  <JohnUK89> And they all want G25's
00:08:22  <JohnUK89> Driving Force Pro
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00:08:40  <Sacro> hmm 189 from komplett
00:08:43  <JohnUK89> (Actually a PS2 controller but some smartarse wrote a PC driver)
00:09:04  <Sacro> heh
00:09:09  <glx> I use my genesis controller on my pc
00:09:27  <Sacro> glx: heh, i use ps2
00:09:34  <JohnUK89> glx: what you don't know is the DFP is 900 degrees and force feedback ;-)
00:09:46  <JohnUK89> +has
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00:09:55  <Sacro> JohnUK89: was kostat lfs?
00:10:02  <JohnUK89> £24
00:10:12  <Sacro> they accept paypal?
00:10:24  <JohnUK89> I think so
00:10:30  <glx> JohnUK89: get an utf8 client :)
00:11:01  <JohnUK89> glx: I have one, I just can't be bothered opening my character map :)
00:11:05  <Sacro> ? :P
00:11:21  <JohnUK89> Wierd I with hat, copyright sign :P
00:11:32  * Sacro considers registering wikipæ
00:11:49  <torm> ???????
00:11:51  <JohnUK89> hah
00:11:57  <Sacro> torm:  bless you
00:12:08  <JohnUK89> Stop writing japanese damnit :P
00:12:18  <torm> Sacro: phew... tahnks mate... sneezing hirigana all over tha place
00:12:30  <JohnUK89> The payment methods we accept are credit card (VISA, Mastercard and UK debit cards), Paypal, Moneybookers, UK Cheques and Money Orders. More information can be found on the 'Buy a license' pages (make sure you are logged in). <Sacro
00:12:35  <Sacro> torm: you should get yourself a hanky
00:12:41  <Sacro> JohnUK89: i know
00:12:45  <glx> ??????
00:12:47  <JohnUK89> :)
00:12:58  <Sacro> with my new pc, a g25 and LFS, ill never been seen in here agiain
00:13:03  <JohnUK89> ffs@greek? russian?
00:13:06  <JohnUK89> LOL Sacro
00:13:23  <Sacro> JohnUK89: russian
00:13:31  <torm> glx: ??????????
00:13:31  <Archwyrm> ?? ??????? ??????, ???8 ????? ??
00:13:35  <JohnUK89> Sacro: hehe
00:13:43  <glx> torm: arabic :)
00:13:44  <JohnUK89> Archwyrm: you beat my client there lol
00:13:45  <Sacro> Archwyrm: ?? ????? ???? ?
00:13:59  <Archwyrm> lol
00:14:06  <Sacro> JohnUK89: does LFS support clutch + direct shifting?
00:14:11  <torm> ????????? << braile!
00:14:15  <JohnUK89> Sacro: it most certainly does
00:14:23  <Sacro> that and netkar pro :D
00:14:27  <Sacro> torm: ooh clever
00:14:27  <JohnUK89> Ewww
00:14:34  <JohnUK89> nKP sucks :S
00:14:34  <glx> torm: it failed for me :(
00:14:39  <Archwyrm> It does not matter how UTF your client is, if the font cannot keep up. ;)
00:14:58  <torm> heh, use ubuntu then glx :P
00:15:23  <JohnUK89> torm: I'm using Ubuntu, what font you using?
00:15:35  <glx> anyway braille is not meant to be displayed on a screen
00:15:50  <torm> glx: LOL!
00:15:55  <torm> and using Monospace 9
00:16:30  <Sacro> " These kind of single seaters are equipped with a start engine and a small battery. If you battery too much, battery charge will exhaust. In this case, leave the track session and restart it." <-- ooh posh
00:16:33  <JohnUK89> Still no braille here...think I need to install the accessibility stuff
00:16:49  <torm> using xchat?
00:16:57  <JohnUK89> torm: no, Kopete :-X
00:17:02  <torm> akk k
00:17:06  <Sacro> ive lost my UTF-8 enterablity
00:17:07  <torm> kubuntu user eh?
00:17:09  <Sacro> used to be ctrl+alt
00:17:11  <JohnUK89> Nah
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00:17:30  <JohnUK89> Ubuntu+Kubuntu+Xubuntu+fluxbox
00:17:31  <JohnUK89> :P
00:17:43  <torm> lol u like it hardcore eh?
00:17:49  <JohnUK89> torm: heh
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00:18:15  <JohnUK89> Sacro: wb
00:18:16  <Sacro> :| WTF
00:18:24  <Sacro> how'd i die?
00:18:33  <torm> i got openttd working on my Palm Tungsten T5 today... seriously cool
00:18:40  <torm> Ottd in the palm of my hand
00:18:47  <Sacro> JohnUK89: what was the quit line?
00:18:58  <torm> Sacro: Sacro has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
00:19:02  <glx> torm: which os?
00:19:03  <JohnUK89> Damn
00:19:04  <Sacro> torm: thanks
00:19:08  <JohnUK89> Beat me to it
00:19:08  <Sacro> X just deceided to close
00:19:19  <torm> PalmOS
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00:19:53  <JohnUK89Irssi> Did I forget to mention I had irssi installed too? :P
00:20:01  <torm> JohnUK89's cloning
00:20:04  <Sacro> i wanna g25 :(
00:20:08  <lws1984> yay, irssi
00:20:11  <JohnUK89Irssi> Sacro: me too lol
00:20:57  <JohnUK89Irssi> I'm using a Saitek R220 at the moment :(
00:21:51  <JohnUK89> Hmm I can't log into :S
00:21:58  <Sacro> i have a dodgy thrustmaster forumula force gt
00:22:17  <JohnUK89> Better than mine, at least it has FFB
00:23:05  <JohnUK89> Number of available unlocks: 0  <--bah
00:23:20  <JohnUK89> cba emailing Victor :P
00:24:28  <Sacro> hehe, telnet IRC :D
00:24:33  <JohnUK89Irssi> lmao
00:24:41  <JohnUK89Irssi> I'm considering using SSH IRC
00:24:53  <Sacro> well it'd keep you quiet
00:25:06  <JohnUK89Irssi> Nah lol
00:25:14  <JohnUK89Irssi> It'd make me louder than ever ;-)
00:25:16  <Sacro> whoo Grand Prix Legends
00:25:28  <JohnUK89> Never tried GPL
00:25:46  <Sacro> its fantastic
00:25:50  <Sacro> soooooo much fun
00:25:57  <JohnUK89> (GP Legends that is, not the GNU GPL)
00:25:59  <Sacro> though never got round the nurburgring without trashing the car
00:26:03  <JohnUK89> lmao
00:27:07  <Sacro> i so want my new pc, LFS and g25
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00:27:12  <JohnUK89Irssi> Clone number 2 enters...:P
00:27:29  <JohnUK89Irssi> Sacro: lol I want the G2s, the PC can cope and I already have LFS ;-)
00:27:37  <Sacro> hopefully ill get around a 1250 student loan
00:27:42  <JohnUK89Irssi> Nice lol
00:28:05  <Sacro> and im hoping halifax are nice and give me a 2k overdraft
00:28:08  <Sacro> and ill be well away
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00:28:31  <JohnUK89> I'm getting £30 a week for going to sixth form, give me 8 weeks and I'll have that G25 ;-)
00:28:40  <Sacro> when it comes out
00:28:44  <JohnUK89> True :P
00:28:47  <Sacro> amazon reconned the 25th
00:29:20  <JohnUK89> 25th Sept?
00:29:35  <Sacro> yup
00:29:40  <JohnUK89> Ooh
00:31:05  <Sacro> mm, seems not
00:31:06  <JohnUK89> G25 WILL BE MINE! MUAHAHA
00:31:08  <JohnUK89> :P
00:31:19  <Sacro> ah, twas komplett
00:31:30  <Sacro> wooo 24 month warrenty
00:31:35  <Sacro> £189
00:31:35  <JohnUK89> Nice
00:31:52  <Sacro> 14 in stock on2006-09-25
00:31:54  <JohnUK89> Will be worth it ;-)
00:32:04  <JohnUK89> Only 14? wtf?
00:32:06  <Sacro> says PS2 though
00:32:10  <Sacro> limited edition
00:32:18  <JohnUK89> Yeah it's the same as the DFP I would have assumed
00:32:24  <JohnUK89> PS2 wheel, PC driver
00:32:35  <Sacro> USB?
00:32:44  <JohnUK89> Dunno
00:32:57  <JohnUK89> Actually, yeah
00:33:01  <Sacro> mmm, i need to get my UCAS acception asap
00:33:07  <Sacro> i might just buy it and store it safe
00:33:10  <Sacro> and taunt you
00:33:15  <JohnUK89> lol
00:33:22  <JohnUK89> I'll show you on track :P
00:33:26  <Sacro> mmm, 8Mbit
00:33:26  <JohnUK89> (I hope)
00:33:35  <Sacro> hah, i dont have many mates who can beat me
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00:35:28  <Sacro> oh noes...more
00:35:28  * JohnUK89_ drools at 10Mbit he's possibly getting
00:35:44  * Sacro drools it 8Mbit he _IS_ getting
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00:36:26  <JohnUK89_> Just waiting for them to drop
00:36:27  <JohnUK89_> lol
00:39:03  <UnderBuilder> hmmm... seems that I need to learn more
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00:39:24  <UnderBuilder> C... nobody wants to take my idea
00:39:27  <JohnUK89_> Yay they're dropping
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00:41:24  <Sacro> just searched my name on, and theres ones here i dont remember :\
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00:43:06  * Sacro plots
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00:43:30  <JohnUK89__> Grr lol
00:43:48  <Sacro> grr ;)
00:44:03  <JohnUK89__> lol
00:44:44  <torm> sheesh Johnny... choose a client n stick to it :P
00:44:57  <JohnUK89__> lol
00:45:12  <JohnUK89__> I'm only on Kopete now, but the rest is taking an age to drop
00:45:14  <lws1984> irssi is best!
00:45:14  <JohnUK89__> are*
00:45:26  <torm> xchat fan myself
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00:47:02  <JohnUK89__> lmao
00:47:06  <torm_irssi> i see...
00:47:12  <torm_irssi> not a bad little client
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00:47:24  <lws|irssi> WØØT.
00:47:51  <torm_irssi> bummer, how do i switch between windows? lol
00:47:58  <Sacro> alt+number
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00:49:14  * Sacroirrsi dances
00:49:17  <JohnUK89__> YAY! They're DROPPING!
00:49:23  * lws|irssi does the irssi dance
00:49:28  * torm_irssi man dances
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00:49:46  * lws|irssi does the clumsy Bostonian dance and trips over Sacroirrsi
00:49:52  <glx> JohnUK89__: why not close them properly next time :)
00:50:01  <JohnUK89__> Because my connection died
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00:50:18  <torm> dont blame the dial up JohnUK89__
00:50:28  <torm> for your own shortcomings :P
00:50:30  <glx> it's worse (GPRS)
00:50:31  <JohnUK89__> I'm not, I'm blaming the GPRS :P
00:50:38  <torm> haha
00:50:48  <torm-i> this'll confuse the bastards :P
00:50:50  <torm> mwahaha
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00:52:24  <torm> i'm thinking i'm gonna have to reinstall sometime soon
00:52:37  <torm> system seems to be running slow when changing windows and stuff
00:53:27  * Sacroirrsi jiggles
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00:53:56  * torm gives Sacroirrsi a sedative
00:54:09  * Sacroirrsi jiggles slowly
00:54:10  <torm> god... i've been watching too much Greys Anatomy
00:54:33  <torm> oh god! he's going into juggle-arrest! bing in the jiggle cart!
00:54:37  * lws1984 pokes Sacroirrsi out of the window
00:54:39  <lws1984> there, all better
00:55:33  <torm> brb
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00:56:04  <BFM> I made this last night
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00:56:35  <torm> better...
00:56:51  <torm> looks like all this compiling has forced some of my apps to Swap Space
00:56:56  * Sacroirrsi weebles
00:57:32  * lws1984 puts Sacroirrsi on
00:57:51  <lws1984> all we need is for someone to bob
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01:01:06  <Sacro> bedtime me thinks
01:01:09  <Sacroirrsi> as do i
01:01:23  <glx> gn Sacro*
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01:02:59  * Sacro has a last minute plan for tommorow
01:03:05  <Sacro> damnit, seeing therapist in 12 hours
01:04:22  <BFM> Sacro, therapist?
01:04:39  <Sacro> BFM: yes
01:04:53  <Sacro> its rumoured that i might be as sane as is recommended
01:05:01  <Sacro> *not even :p
01:05:13  <Sacro> d'oh, think they may be right
01:05:15  <BFM> When I was seeing one of them, all I was doing was talking to her about gardening, then she'd take 0.... I figured I'd get more theropy from buying games and playing them. :P
01:05:27  * Sacro is glad that Bjarni wasnt aroudn to quote that
01:05:43  <Sacro> ahh, due to the NHS i dont have to pay
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01:06:50  <Sacro> ah well, i need sleep
01:06:53  <Sacro> night peeps
01:07:24  <BFM> sleep is good
01:08:40  <Sacro> yup, and im off to get some
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01:10:45  <torm> oh dude... whats happening here?
01:11:02  <torm> using r6405... the ground around my coal mine is morphing :S
01:12:16  <glx> morphing?
01:12:35  <BFM> Awesome!
01:12:35  <BFM> Just like a real mine!
01:12:35  <JohnUK89__> torm: you sure that isn't the AI demolishing it??
01:12:35  <torm> an area that size?
01:12:35  <JohnUK89__> Yeah, you never know how stupid the AI is :P
01:12:35  <torm> was like 20x20 squares... and it was expanding, contracting, expanding... and so on
01:12:44  <torm> bubbling would be a better description
01:13:23  <glx> looks like "AI at work"
01:13:26  <Frostregen> sounds like ai
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01:14:42  <JohnUK89__> <ooh, someone pasted it :P
01:14:49  <torm> it's doing it again... argH!
01:14:52  <torm> ahh well
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01:21:01  <UnderBuilder> lol morphing earth
01:21:19  <UnderBuilder> in what morphed? into desert? snow? tundra?
01:22:37  <UnderBuilder> or what do you mean with morphing?
01:23:12  <UnderBuilder> cya
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01:40:20  <Nigel[CPI]> anyone want a cookie?
01:40:59  <lws|Away> I do!
01:41:15  <lws|Away> err... I'm not away anymore!
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01:41:50  <Nigel[CPI]> it always amazes me how people can talk before they arrive back
01:42:25  <BFM> I want a something crunchy and sweet... so a cookie would be perfect!
01:42:25  <lws1984> well, I forgot to set my unaway
01:43:21  <torm> hmm, how does one increase their reputation with towns? this town dont like me much :(
01:44:29  <Nigel[CPI]> torm: import cookies
01:44:41  <lws1984> torm: add trees!
01:44:43  <BFM> torn, trees!
01:45:01  <BFM> OR, sleep with the mayor... the options there somewhere
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01:47:20  <torm> mmm cookies...
01:47:28  <torm> i like the... sleep with the mayor one...
01:50:13  <Nigel[CPI]> oh well, noone wins the cookie
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01:53:10  <torm> do these cookies violate me?
01:53:16  <torm> *violate my privacy even?
01:53:17  <torm> :P
01:54:17  <Nigel[CPI]> torm: they come from
01:55:36  <Nigel[CPI]> you need to go read their privacy policy
01:55:38  <Archwyrm> That site sends me no cookies.
01:55:44  <Archwyrm> Neither does
01:56:04  <CIA-2> glx * r6408 /trunk/ (map.h npf.c yapf/unittest/test_yapf.h):
01:56:04  <CIA-2> -Fix(r6406): compilation was broken
01:56:04  <CIA-2> -Codechange: Rename TileIndexDiffCByDir to TileIndexDiffCByDiagDir because it accepts DiagDirections
01:56:06  <torm> nothing there man
01:56:10  <Nigel[CPI]> Archwyrm: yeah, i won the only cookie
01:57:16  <Archwyrm> And you are just keeping it?
01:57:16  <Archwyrm> That means 0% cookies delivered and that is very serious.
01:59:20  <Nigel[CPI]> true, but the lack of bribeing
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02:06:57  <JohnUK89_> Any ops in? lol
02:08:10  * JohnUK89_ assumes that to be a no :P
02:08:21  <glx> why do you need an op?
02:08:31  <JohnUK89_> To kick all my other names (non-regged)
02:09:28  <glx> you can do it yourself : /msg nickserv ghost nick password
02:09:40  <JohnUK89_> I said they're not registered :P
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02:10:07  <JohnUK89_> I can do one of em
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02:12:31  <glx> JohnUK89: I think ghost works without password if the address is the same
02:13:28  <JohnUK89> lol
02:13:32  <JohnUK89> Anyways, I'm gone
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02:21:23  <JohnUK89Phone1> Blah :p
02:21:54  <glx> hey you can try ghost :)
02:22:20  <JohnUK89Phone1> Not from my phone I'm not ;-)
02:23:36  <glx> but from your PC ;)
02:23:51  <JohnUK89Phone1> works but the nick isn't regged so it won't ghost it
02:24:47  * JohnUK89Phone1 cheers
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02:26:27  <JohnUK89Phone> :)
02:26:46  <JohnUK89Phone> Not a bad client this :D
02:27:47  <JohnUK89Phone> Well, till my phone runs out of charge :p
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05:30:16  <MeusH> hey
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05:49:36  <jivan> hi all
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05:56:30  <jivan> hi all
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06:07:11  <jivan> can anybody help me?
06:10:05  <Tron> because of the lack of any information: no
06:10:10  <mikk36> tell us the problem
06:10:23  <mikk36> then maybe we can help u
06:10:34  <jivan> where can I find the .grf files to play openttd
06:10:43  <jivan> there is no wiki or otherwise I can find this info.
06:10:58  <jivan> also which is better to play 0.4.7 or 0.4.8
06:10:59  <mikk36> grfcrawler
06:11:10  <mikk36> 048 is a bugfix
06:11:15  <jivan> o.k.
06:11:26  <jivan> wht did u mean by grfcrawler?
06:11:38  <mikk36> google
06:11:40  <XeryusTC>
06:12:43  <jivan> hi XeryusTC
06:12:49  <jivan> I'm pretty noob/new to this
06:12:52  <XeryusTC> heya
06:13:08  <jivan> hence would require some hand-holding
06:13:27  <jivan> somebody made a post in ubuntuforums
06:14:12  <jivan>
06:14:21  <jivan> about how to install openttd
06:15:02  <jivan> but the link he's given for the windows files doesn't work
06:15:04  <Tron> the guy who wrote this is an idiot
06:15:17  <jivan> tht I thought so
06:15:18  <Tron> you _never_ give a file 777 permissions
06:15:36  <mikk36> unless u really want to :P
06:16:06  <jivan> I hope somebody can fix it & can engage the ubuntu community
06:16:25  <mikk36> i'll pack the files for u
06:16:34  <jivan> anyway now where can I get the files needed to run the game
06:16:45  <jivan> thnx milkk36
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06:17:10  <jivan> how big are these files?
06:17:12  <Tron> jivan: on your Transport Tycoon Deluxe CS
06:17:18  <Tron> s/CS/CD/
06:17:29  <jivan> Tron I don't have TTD CS
06:17:35  <Tron> CD
06:18:21  <jivan> I'm sure the whole idea is to use these files temporary
06:18:22  <Tron> jivan: there's a readme.txt - guess what its good for
06:18:36  <jivan> Tron, I did read tht but gets me nowhere
06:18:56  <Tron> Before you run OpenTTD, you need to put the game's datafiles into the data/
06:18:57  <Tron> subdirectory. You need the following files from the original version
06:18:57  <Tron> of TTD as OpenTTD makes use of the original TTD artwork.
06:19:05  <Tron> what exactly does this "get you nowhere"?
06:19:06  <jivan> & then those get replaced with the modified free/open source grfs
06:19:33  <jivan> from where do I get TTD? for free?
06:19:36  <Tron> no, you need those, period
06:19:58  <Sionide> jivan, use the search function on the ttd forums
06:20:54  <Sionide> ugh
06:20:57  <Sionide> hiccups :/
06:21:51  <mikk36> whole ttd: v
06:21:54  <mikk36>
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06:23:11  <Pace> Wow.
06:23:24  <Pace> ...I have a problem with OpenTTD. I was wondering if someone could help me?
06:23:49  <Pace> Anyone..
06:23:51  <Pace> Anyone at all..
06:23:54  <Sionide> go on then
06:23:56  <Sionide> just ask
06:24:01  <Sionide> don't ask to ask... :/
06:24:17  <Pace> Hehe. Sorry, I've asked for help on IRC before and people got really angr yand stuff =\
06:24:19  <Pace> But anyway
06:24:49  <Pace> Whenever I play a Game online, My Opponents seem to have no problems get Passengers and what not, but I Can't get anything
06:24:51  <Pace> anywhere
06:25:47  <jivan> thnx milkk36 downloading it :)
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06:26:39  <jivan> btw is/are there some people working on replacing the grf's there?
06:26:56  <jivan> the original  windows .grf's with replacements
06:27:42  <jivan> mikk36, Sionide anybody?
06:27:54  <Pace> Am I doing something wrong in-game?
06:28:10  <Sionide> jivan, yes, check the wiki- it's a *long* slow process
06:28:26  <Sionide> Pace, screenshot?
06:28:30  <jivan> Sionide where is the wiki?
06:28:35  <Sionide>
06:28:36  <Pace> Hmm
06:28:46  <Pace> What's the hotkey for screen in OpenTTD?
06:28:53  <Pace> Sorry, I only just got it about a week ago.
06:29:04  <Sionide> err it's on the menu
06:29:07  <Sionide> near save/exit
06:29:24  <Pace> ...But of course it is.
06:29:28  <Pace> Hang on:
06:29:39  <Sionide> jivan, prepare to be amazed
06:29:39  <Sionide>
06:29:57  <mikk36> Ctrl-S is screenshot key
06:30:41  <Sionide> oh yeah, i don't use hotkeys often
06:30:49  <Sionide> i'm a sucker for a good gui :p lol
06:31:04  <mikk36> it's hidden on the rightmost button
06:31:06  <mikk36> under*
06:31:12  <Pace> uploading now
06:31:13  <mikk36> the screenshot function
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06:31:30  <Sionide> Pace, i guess we'd need to say your station, it's rough location and your opponents station with loads of passengers in
06:31:31  <jivan> Sionide tht is amazing, I'm sure one needs a good graphics to render those ?
06:31:42  <Sionide> jivan, they're all fully 3D, yes..
06:31:49  <Pace> Okay
06:31:50  <Pace> Hang on:
06:32:09  <jivan> so any guess what system requirements needed to see them i their glory
06:32:09  <Sionide> Pace, if your stations are close together.. and your opponent is offering a better service, passengers will go there and won't use you..
06:32:20  <Sionide> jivan, don't think it's possible yet
06:32:50  <jivan> no issues but good to know tht it's in works
06:33:15  <Pace> Trust me :P
06:33:19  <Pace> It's not how i'm playing
06:33:43  <jivan> another thing wasn't there somebody who had made loads of graphics & then one fine day he just left takin with him all the goodies
06:34:05  <Sionide> jivan, no ide
06:34:06  <Sionide> a
06:34:08  <Pace> I've been playing since 1996. So I know about the proximity rule and stuff, but this is just wierd
06:34:12  <Sionide> Pace, well you have only had it a week..
06:34:18  <Sionide> oh right i see
06:34:20  <Sionide> *shrug*
06:34:22  <Pace> I've only had OpenTTD a week
06:34:23  <Sionide> sounds weird
06:34:37  <Pace> Yeah
06:34:38  <Sionide> you can report bugs, but they need to be reproducable by the developers
06:34:40  <jivan> Pace give the version no. of the game & links where u uploaded the screenshots
06:34:49  <jivan> imageshack or somewhere else
06:34:55  <Pace>
06:34:55  <jivan> so they can look at it
06:34:58  <Pace> Is a small example
06:35:23  <Pace> it's same with everything
06:35:26  <Zavior> That's kinda useless shot because it doesn't show the station ratings :/
06:35:31  <Pace> i have a station that is surrounded by 3 forests
06:35:40  <Pace> They're all at 86%
06:35:43  <Pace> 87
06:35:59  <BFM> For fans of Steve Irwin, I made this last night
06:36:00  <Pace> and the Station never has wood at it
06:36:01  <Tron_> Pace: have you ever sent a vehicle to the bus stops?
06:36:07  <Pace> Yeah
06:36:15  <mikk36> better give us the savegame
06:36:16  <Tron_> i see none
06:36:16  <Pace> I lost about 6k before I puled them away
06:36:32  <Pace> it's an online game
06:36:35  <Pace> Still in progress.
06:36:58  <Tron_> there's a save button, you know
06:37:04  <Pace> I know.
06:37:20  <Pace> WOuldn't saving an online game be pointless though?
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06:37:31  <Tron> why would it?
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06:37:42  <Sionide> BFM, aahhh steve irwin, cross between david attenbrough and a cheeseburger
06:38:02  <Pace> Well, it's only doing this online. wouldn't saving it make it offline?
06:38:10  <jivan> who contributes on the wiki?
06:38:17  <Sionide> jivan, lots of people
06:38:56  <jivan> although I didn't find any specific wiki page which tells about the graphics replacement part
06:39:12  <Pace> If someone wants to see for themselves
06:39:33  <Pace> I am willing to give the password and serv
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06:39:58  <jivan> perhaps one can have ttd alongside openttd graphics so people can know which graphics need more work
06:40:08  <Sionide> Pace, it takes it offline but if you send the save game (and version number)
06:40:11  <Tron> to make it short: it works for everybody, but you. these 10€  say you're doing something wrong
06:40:14  <jivan> so there is a working game without the need of ttd
06:40:29  <Pace> Okay
06:40:32  <Pace> Shall I save it then?
06:40:47  <Tron> or give the damn server address
06:40:51  <Tron> but don't talk in circles
06:41:09  <Tron> you're making it _very_ hard for somebody to help you
06:43:09  <Pace> Sorry =\
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06:46:34  <jivan> Sionide perhaps something like this
06:46:36  <jivan>
06:47:31  <jivan> this one shows Apache foundation's Harmoney (Open Source) implementation against Sun's Java 1.5
06:47:50  <jivan> could there be a wiki page for something like this
06:48:14  <jivan> Sionide, mikk36, Zavior anyone
06:48:47  <Zavior> I have no knowledge of anything related to that :|
06:49:14  <Pace> THanks for the help
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06:49:44  <Zavior> Did he actually get any help?
06:49:52  <Tron> IDIOT
06:50:00  <Tron> of course everything works perfectly fine
06:50:01  <jivan> No , I think not but then he was not really co-operative
06:50:46  <jivan> Zavior, what I was saying if we could have a wiki page giving graphics replacement progress just like the one shown above
06:50:48  <jivan>
06:50:52  <Sionide> jivan, i've seen some screenshots of the new gfx stuff in action... as far as "being able to scroll around the landscape" goes.. not very exciting
06:51:13  <Sionide> there is something kinda like that anyway
06:51:25  <Sionide> that says "WIP" if the item is work in progress etc etc
06:52:12  <jivan> If we model it in some kinda %age then the possibility of new graphics replacement could be potentially speeded up
06:52:28  <jivan> as people would be able to priortize what things need to be done
06:52:49  <jivan> the 'exciting' graphics can come a little later
06:53:01  <jivan> having a complete open source game would be nicer :)
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06:53:18  <Tron> and doing something instead of just talking even more
06:53:18  <Sionide> it's not at that stage yet
06:53:34  <Tron> but that's the problem with most people
06:53:41  <jivan> Tron, I'm not a graphics expert
06:53:49  <Tron> they just go on and talk about how nice and green the grass is over there
06:53:55  <Tron> but that's it
06:53:57  <jivan> but do have many friends who work with graphics
06:54:11  <Tron> they never do anything to get there
06:54:25  <jivan> & they do work on free/open source project in their free time
06:54:37  <jivan> but only if there are some good spaces
06:54:57  <jivan> the wiki is cool, but what I propose should make it better
06:55:12  <jivan> if somebody contributes to setting up the wiki like tht
06:55:15  <Zavior> Great, will you do that?
06:55:29  <Tron> Zavior: of course he won't
06:55:47  <jivan> Tron, if I knew how to write wikis I wouldn't be asking u guys
06:56:09  <jivan> but just an incentive would get 2 friemds to work on some of the requirements
06:56:14  <Tron> there are things called "manuals"
06:56:49  <Zavior> Ehm
06:56:50  <jivan> True but if somebody is more expert in some things then me
06:56:55  <Zavior> My contact lens was doa
06:56:57  <Zavior> :|
06:57:05  <jivan> then rather let them do it instead me fudging things up
06:57:11  <Zavior> This means I will run out of them before new set will arrive!
06:57:14  <Zavior> Oh noes
06:57:39  <Tron> jivan: obviously nobody is doing it
06:58:19  <jivan> Tron :  I think it's because nobody knows where & how much stuff needs to be replaced, or which ones are more important
06:58:38  <jivan> if there is some priorties given then it would take less 6 months to get things completed.
06:59:03  <Tron> all talks, but no action, kthxbye
06:59:05  <jivan> although would also if I can contribute on the wiki myself
07:00:19  <jivan> the problem it needs somebody who's intimate in graphics, wiki & has some idea of where things stand
07:00:22  <jivan> I'm just a brand noob
07:00:45  <Sionide> Zavior, couldn't get mine in this morning :/
07:00:56  <Sionide> or out the other day when i got a spare pair from work
07:01:15  <Sionide> major pain...
07:01:19  <Sionide> anyway
07:01:20  <Sionide> time for work
07:01:24  <Sionide> bye all
07:01:31  <jivan> bye Sionide
07:01:49  <jivan> bye from me also, anyway I have shared whatever I could
07:01:57  <jivan> thnx mikk36 wherever u are
07:02:08  <jivan> hopefully somebody picks this up :)
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07:02:28  <Zavior> Sionide heh, I've got one pair left
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07:53:52  <Darkvater> woei
07:54:26  <Darkvater> ashamed of the bug in r6406 of forgetting to rename one tileoffsbydir :O
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08:04:38  <peter1138> hmm?
08:04:48  <Darkvater> morning
08:07:17  <Sacro> morning Mr Darkvater
08:07:22  <Sacro> morning peter1138
08:08:10  <Darkvater> anyone else getting sporadic TileXXX asserts when generating the terrain?
08:09:02  <Sacro> ive not noticed any
08:09:21  <Darkvater> Donnu if it's due to threading or just buggy implementation
08:10:00  <peter1138> not noticed any, but i've hardly played
08:10:11  <peter1138> also i'm stuck on r62something
08:10:18  <Darkvater> I've had it yesterday twice, and about a week ago time after time after time
08:10:31  <Darkvater> damn... forgot
08:10:35  <Darkvater> should've been easy to test
08:10:42  <Darkvater> remember the seed and try without threading
08:10:57  <Tron> try helgrind
08:11:33  <Darkvater> it was windows
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08:14:33  <Darkvater> Basically what Helgrind does is to look for memory locations which are accessed by more than one thread. For each such location, Helgrind records which of the program's (pthread_mutex_)locks were held by the accessing thread at the time of the access. The hope is to discover that there is indeed at least one lock which is used by all threads to protect that location. If no such lock can be found, then there is (apparently) no consistent locking strategy b
08:14:40  <Darkvater> cool
08:18:32  <Darkvater> !seen bjarni
08:18:34  <_42_> Darkvater, Bjarni ( was last seen quitting #openttd 9 hours 29 minutes ago (05.09. 22:49) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 14 hours 8 minutes there.
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08:20:08  <torm> heres one for ya... is there a way to tell all my trucks/trains/plains to go to the nearest depot, thru the use of a script or something similar?
08:20:29  <Darkvater> torm: are you using nightlies?
08:20:42  <torm> nightlies?
08:20:50  <torm> no idea
08:21:32  <torm> what are they/it?
08:22:06  <peter1138> heh
08:22:16  <peter1138> that'll be a no then
08:22:21  <Darkvater> torm: no
08:22:24  <Darkvater> hehe yes peter1138 :)
08:22:58  <peter1138> so, what's the betting my adsl doesn't get 'installed' tomorrow?
08:23:51  <torm> nightlies as in nightly build?
08:24:00  <mikk36> yes
08:24:00  <Darkvater> heh
08:24:01  <Darkvater> tfarago@arrakis:~/openttd> valgrind --tool=helgrind ./openttd -D
08:24:01  <Darkvater> Helgrind is currently not working, because:
08:24:08  <Darkvater> peter1138: 35%
08:24:34  <torm> i'm using latest svn if that helps?
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08:25:40  <Darkvater> torm: open the vehicle list window (any) and press 'send to depots'
08:26:36  <torm> sweet... cheers man :)
08:26:58  <torm> just added recently?
08:28:50  <Darkvater> yeah by Bjarni. It's still a bit buggy and needs work though
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08:36:08  <Darkvater> damn no helgrind even in 3.2.0
08:36:10  <Darkvater> bummer
08:41:33  <Tron> let me predict the result
08:41:38  <Tron> we allocate the map in thread A
08:41:56  <Tron> and the terrain generator writes to it in thread B
08:42:21  <Tron> helgrind will complain about one zillion times about this fact and then just stop logging
08:43:01  <Darkvater> well I wanted to helgrind the saveload code
08:43:03  <Tron> which is not very helpful
08:43:18  <Darkvater> last upate in June.. there's still work on it
08:43:43  <Tron> what's the problem with helgrind?
08:44:08  <Darkvater> it's not running
08:44:36  <Darkvater>  If you want to use Helgrind, you'll have to use Valgrind 2.2.0, which is
08:44:36  <Darkvater>  the most recent Valgrind release that contains a working Helgrind.
08:44:48  <Darkvater> tfarago@arrakis:/public> valgrind --version
08:44:48  <Darkvater> valgrind-3.2.0
08:44:55  <Darkvater> and I'm not going to downgrade
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08:46:38  <Tron> 3.2.0? i have 352 here
08:46:50  <Tron> (no dots)
08:47:09  <Darkvater> downloaded opensuse rpm
08:47:27  <Darkvater> valgrind says current release is 3.2.0
08:48:37  <Tron> ah, FreeBSD has a port of valgrind 2.x
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08:48:46  <Tron> well, it works, i'm happy
08:53:15  <Darkvater> )
08:53:18  <Darkvater> :
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08:57:08  <AsterixMG> hi @all
08:58:18  <Darkvater> hi
09:01:27  <Rubidium> Darkvater: when (during the generation process) are you getting those sporadic TileXXX assertions?
09:03:17  <Darkvater> at the start
09:03:30  <Darkvater> I think it was
09:03:46  <Darkvater> donnu for sure though cause I only generate 64x64 maps to test things ;p
09:06:09  <Rubidium> it is certainly not allocating the map, as that happens before the generation thread is started
09:06:50  <Rubidium> if the dedicated server triggers the bug, it is not thread related
09:07:03  <Darkvater> normal client
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09:13:20  <Rubidium> I furthermore think helgrind won't work, as we do not lock/unlock mutexes
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09:22:17  * peter1138 hmms at hertogjan
09:22:29  <peter1138> 'accusing' r4322 of breaking realistic acceleration
09:25:21  <Darkvater> heh
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09:26:15  <Sacro> it did afaik
09:28:01  <peter1138> ah, sacro confirms it. conclusive proof.
09:28:26  <Sacro> peter1138: :p
09:28:28  <peter1138> (no offence, but there is nothing in there that could break realistic acceleration)
09:28:49  <Sacro> !svn 4322
09:30:06  <Darkvater> !openttd log 4322
09:30:07  <_42_> Darkvater: r4322 log: - Codechange: Remove conversion of kmh to mph from gui code to within the units conversion system, in string.c. This means displaying kmh requires no conversion, instead of being convert from kmh to mph, and then back to kmh again.
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09:31:32  <peter1138> *converted ;)
09:34:00  <Sacro> pedant
09:35:14  <peter1138> not really
09:35:17  <peter1138> just fixing my typo
09:40:55  <peter1138> hmm, wireless chip & pin/swipe card reader with receipt printer
09:41:24  <grimrc> for retail?
09:42:40  <peter1138> presumably
09:42:47  <peter1138> restaurants and the like as well
09:44:33  <Sacro> we got one at work
09:44:57  <grimrc> I heard about these fraudsters in the UK who placed an adapter between the chip & pin card readers and the till computers in petrol stations, by pretending to be maintainence, and it would log card details & PINs; they'd come back as maintainence to get their logger; if PINs are sent cleartext from the key terminal, what hope is there?
09:45:43  <grimrc> wireless sounds even more dangerous
09:47:40  <grimrc> I worked at a convenience store until recently; you get all sorts in those places
09:50:40  <peter1138> well, it's wireless as in mobile phone
09:50:51  <peter1138> and of course it's all encrypted
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09:57:06  <Sacro> bah, can anyone get hold of, i keep getting 403's
09:58:17  <grimrc> you working on new vehicles?
09:58:35  <Sacro> grimrc: no, im trying to get my scooter back on the road
09:58:41  <grimrc> oh hehe
09:58:49  <Sacro> and im trying to avoid paying for the FSM
09:59:04  <grimrc> what's that?
09:59:23  <Sacro> field service manual
09:59:24  <grimrc> 403 for me too
10:00:01  <Sacro> mmm
10:00:06  <grimrc> as found through Google searching just the filename on its own:
10:00:25  <Sacro> :D AND ITS THERE
10:00:51  <Sacro> but wget is having a think
10:01:32  <grimrc> try with a browser, or the wget fake browser option
10:01:39  <grimrc> user agent one
10:01:41  <Sacro> no, cos firefox cant grab it either
10:02:11  <grimrc> well I can start downloading it; it *is* 19.5MB though
10:02:36  <Sacro> --11:03:31--
10:02:36  <Sacro>            => `'
10:02:36  <Sacro> Resolving
10:02:36  <Sacro> Connecting to||:8000...
10:02:38  <grimrc> and it's going at 3kB/s
10:03:05  <grimrc> do you have an FTP?
10:03:11  <Sacro> ooh, think i might have it now
10:03:24  <grimrc> maybe it was queuing you
10:03:31  <grimrc> can I stop my download then?
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10:03:57  <Sacro> yeah, cheers
10:04:06  <Sacro> well, think its died with 1:50 eta
10:04:16  <grimrc> I got 1 percent before stopping
10:04:26  <grimrc> before I stopped it I mean
10:04:36  <Sacro> yeah... i got 2
10:04:45  <grimrc> that was fast
10:05:08  <Sacro> get 8k with wget
10:05:25  <grimrc> must be packed with images to make it 19.5MB
10:05:47  <grimrc> and they wanted you to pay for it?
10:06:06  <Sacro> i can buy it, for instant download
10:06:46  <grimrc> how much?
10:07:05  <Sacro> ooh, 3.9kbps
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10:07:24  <Sacro> 7%
10:07:27  <Sacro> about a tenner i think
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10:08:03  <grimrc> nice
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10:49:52  <PandaMojo> Hmm.
10:50:13  <PandaMojo> My exporter is comming up with 6 more points than it should <_<
10:50:21  <PandaMojo> err triangles
10:51:47  <AsterixMG> what exporter
10:52:41  <PandaMojo> I've got a vector graphics "language" built out of Ruby libraries and a Ruby script (the "compiler")
10:53:35  <PandaMojo> that currently dosn't actually export anything, but will eventually transform stuff like "circle({:size=>16 , :color => BaseColor })" into a nice flat list of vertex data
10:53:55  <PandaMojo> For easy consumption by battle.client
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10:58:55  <AsterixMG> can anyone tell me why the "langs.vcproj" for miniin is completely different from the trunk-version?
10:59:35  <Sacro> grimrc: w00t
11:00:00  <Sacro> its buggered :(
11:00:27  <AsterixMG> Sacro, your download is buggered?
11:01:07  <Sacro> AsterixMG: yes, trying to get a 20M file over a 3k connection
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11:01:40  <CIA-2> belugas * r6409 /branches/XTDwidget/ (news_gui.c vehicle_gui.c widget.c window.h):
11:01:40  <CIA-2> [XTDwidget] -Codechange : Removal of disabled_state from Window struct.
11:01:40  <CIA-2> Some code beautifying is still required in news_gui.c though
11:01:40  <CIA-2> Next step : click_state. Big job
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11:14:52  <Sacro> oh noes :( hit CTRL+Z rather than CTRL+A
11:19:09  <Darkvater> !seen bjarni
11:19:11  <_42_> Darkvater, Bjarni ( was last seen quitting #openttd 12 hours 30 minutes ago (05.09. 22:49) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 14 hours 8 minutes there.
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12:32:08  <Hagbard_> WTF!
12:32:15  <Hagbard_> OpenTTD Dedi sucks
12:32:42  <Hagbard_> I'm in a dir where there ARE files... and ls just gives me .. and heightmap
12:33:58  <Darkvater> Hagbard_: you should perhaps look at your working directory?
12:34:12  <Hagbard_> Darkvater: In the correct dir and all...
12:34:21  <Hagbard_> Just that LS sucks..
12:34:31  <Hagbard_> doesn't show anything but dirs...
12:34:40  <Darkvater> are you sure?
12:34:45  <Hagbard_> YES!
12:34:50  <Darkvater> ls only shows valid files
12:35:05  <Hagbard_> so something.scn isn't valid then?
12:35:15  <Hagbard_> Or do I need to chmod my files?
12:35:42  <Darkvater> yep, it's not valid
12:35:46  <Darkvater> only svae files
12:35:52  <Hagbard_> OMFG!
12:36:04  <Hagbard_> How should I load a .scn file to a dedi then?
12:36:19  <Darkvater> rename it
12:36:54  <Hagbard_> God.... Fix it... To all you devs! Do so that ls and load can load .scn files!
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12:37:30  <Darkvater> thank you
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12:37:57  <Tron> you're welcome
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12:39:36  <transport> i need a highway is it coded
12:39:41  <Sacro> transport: no
12:39:46  <transport> ok
12:39:54  * Sacro has a feeling of deja vu
12:40:22  <Tron> the next guy without manners, great
12:41:24  <transport> i got you a highway
12:41:33  <Sacro> transport: yes, but where did xchat put it
12:41:49  <transport> dont know
12:41:58  <Sacro> transport: oooh purdy
12:42:06  <grimrc> hehe
12:42:10  <transport> ok
12:42:51  <Sacro> all that needs is 1 way streets
12:42:55  <torm> Darkvater, what was all that about!?! lol
12:42:59  <transport> ok
12:43:21  <Darkvater> I ain't done nothing
12:43:33  <transport> work on it for Openttd
12:43:52  <Darkvater> ..
12:43:59  <Darkvater> such rude people lately
12:44:09  <Sacro> Darkvater: would you now be your own parent?
12:44:36  <transport> sacro, i like you
12:44:48  <Sacro> transport: err...thanks
12:45:15  <transport> ok
12:45:48  <grimrc> I think transport's been in before; did you read that C tutorial?
12:45:55  <transport> bye i need to go to school
12:46:02  <grimrc> true
12:46:14  <Darkvater> i need money is it coded
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12:48:00  <Sacro> Darkvater: CTRL+ALT+C :)
12:48:30  <Darkvater> ttd money sucks
12:48:34  <Darkvater> I need real money
12:48:36  * Sacro parts to go see his therapist
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12:49:08  <Sacro> :S
12:49:10  <Darkvater> woow, laag
12:49:13  <Sacro> be back in a bit
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12:49:33  <Born_Acorn> transport asked the same question before
12:49:48  <Born_Acorn> " i need a highway is it coded"
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12:50:43  <Born_Acorn> He must like asking the same thing every day.
12:59:37  <torm> heh.. 'Double Kick-ick-ick-k!!!"
12:59:43  <torm> next: "Unstoppable!"
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13:00:15  <torm> yo glx
13:00:25  <glx> hello
13:00:47  <torm> thanks for the heads up with svn before :)
13:00:51  <torm> rapid learning curve atm
13:00:57  <torm> small bits of info all over the place
13:01:17  <Darkvater> glx: thanks for the fix :). A bit embarassing to forget converting the one _tileoffs_by_dir in the function
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13:01:51  <glx> Darkvater: did you compile before the commit ?
13:01:56  <Darkvater> of course
13:02:01  <Darkvater> windows worked like a charm
13:02:16  <glx> g++ didn't like the typedefs too
13:02:40  <glx> so I revert to uint
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13:34:09  <michi_cc> Darkvater: you broke the yapf unittest as well. Fix:
13:35:38  <Darkvater> michi_cc: I think that is incomplete
13:35:46  <Darkvater> if no code is using it then nothing is broken
13:35:57  <Darkvater> if code is using it, you need to rename it to use the proper array
13:36:06  <michi_cc> it doesn't compile
13:36:13  <michi_cc> it uses the map.h functions
13:36:36  <KUDr_wrk> you can delete unittest
13:36:49  <Darkvater> hi KUDr_wrk
13:36:50  <KUDr_wrk> and delete also problems with it
13:36:53  <KUDr_wrk> hi
13:37:02  <glx> KUDr: you can do it yourself :) (it's your work)
13:37:20  <Darkvater> is unittest wrong? not working normally? not needed? not needed in the future? yapf 100% ok for all times?
13:37:20  <KUDr_wrk> yes, but dunno when i will have time
13:37:42  <AsterixMG> whats that unittest for, anyway?
13:37:52  <KUDr_wrk> unittest needs to be done better way i guess (for long future)
13:38:00  <KUDr_wrk> it was prototype
13:38:18  <KUDr_wrk> more as inspiration for the future than as tool
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13:38:47  <KUDr_wrk> AsterixMG: it tests all yapf related classes
13:38:52  <KUDr_wrk> mostly collections
13:39:00  <KUDr_wrk> and then also pathfinder itself
13:43:05  * Darkvater thinks KUDr_wrk is a nasty lurker
13:43:17  <Darkvater> didn't say anything for days, the moment unittest comes up he's here ;)
13:43:40  <glx> KUDr_wrk: like this ?
13:44:21  <Darkvater> which ass wrote this?
13:44:22  <Darkvater> # stupid KUDr doesn't know how to setup unittest dependencies (so rm,cp,rm)
13:44:23  <Darkvater> -# please don't blame him and repair it:
13:44:40  <glx> KUDr_wrk did it :)
13:48:13  <KUDr_wrk> glx: yes, it should work
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13:55:49  <glx> KUDr_wrk: ok, so let's remove unittest :)
13:57:05  <glx> I can't determine what action I should use :(
13:57:18  <glx> for the commit message
13:57:41  <Darkvater> -remove unittest
13:57:52  <KUDr_wrk> glx: same with me
13:58:09  <KUDr_wrk> do it please, we have meeting
13:58:11  <glx> ok
13:58:36  <CIA-2> glx * r6410 /trunk/ (Makefile yapf/unittest/): -remove unittest
13:58:46  <Darkvater> wow
13:58:52  <Darkvater> you could at least have capitalized it
13:59:16  <Darkvater> glx: didn't you forget openttd.sln?
14:00:03  <glx> oh yes sorry
14:00:11  <glx> didn't know it was in it too
14:06:05  <peter1138> poor unittest
14:06:09  <peter1138> what did it do wrong?
14:06:16  * Brianetta flies up into space in a Shenzhou
14:06:20  <Brianetta> Anybody coming with me?
14:10:01  <Darkvater> I think that's a no
14:10:16  <torm> exit
14:10:18  <torm> oops
14:10:20  <Brianetta> Bah
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14:10:35  <Brianetta> You think I'd leave you up there in the orbital module whilst I returned to Earth in the descent module
14:10:46  <Brianetta> It's a nasty rumour perpetrated by the last guy I went into space with
14:10:49  <Darkvater> hmm, I think I killed excel with a 10.000 iteration loop from 0 to 1
14:10:50  <Darkvater> :O
14:11:04  <glx> it's too easy to kill excel :)
14:11:11  <hylje> :o
14:11:18  <Noldo_> Darkvater: it might just be "thinking"
14:11:29  <Darkvater> make that a 100.000 loop
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14:12:08  <Darkvater> OMG
14:12:25  <Darkvater> I step in excel from 0 to 1 with intervals of 0.00001
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14:12:30  <Darkvater> and what is my value?
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14:12:37  <Darkvater> Watch :   :     xa : 0.187390000000047 : Double : Module1.solve
14:12:41  <peter1138> heh
14:12:43  <Darkvater> o_O
14:12:54  <Darkvater> nice fp
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14:15:01  <Darkvater> hmm, I wonder if i should turn the iteration into integer
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14:19:41  <JohnUK89> Oh Noes!!
14:19:47  * webfreakz runs
14:19:57  <hylje> :o
14:20:25  <Brianetta> 0 to 1 in 1 step?
14:20:55  <Brianetta> Or were you planning to use a bigger integer?  If you were, use an odd one (:
14:21:10  * torm is back... double oh noes Johnny boy?
14:21:31  <michi_cc> glx: you forgot the VS solutions:
14:21:37  <JohnUK89> torm: nah only for Sacro :P
14:21:41  <torm> lol
14:21:43  <glx> michi_cc: I know :)
14:21:44  <Sacro> hmm, PROBLEM - Bike doesnt start...
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14:21:58  <Sacro> check 1 - Does the engine reach the carburettor
14:22:04  <Sacro> :S should hope so
14:22:14  <grimrc> you got the manual then?
14:22:32  <Sacro> grimrc: yeah, firefox died after an huor
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14:22:37  <Sacro> so i went out and left wget to do it
14:22:41  <grimrc> heh
14:22:44  <grimrc> cool
14:22:47  <Sacro> i love the translations
14:22:59  <Sacro> its an italian bike with a japanese engine :|
14:23:01  <torm> wget... couldnt live without that gem
14:23:14  <JohnUK89> torm: same, it's what got me simfarm :P
14:23:35  <Sacro> yeah ive started using it
14:23:40  <Sacro> cos i can hide it with screen
14:23:41  <grimrc> yeah I like making scripts to grab several files, instead of clicking on each one
14:23:49  <grimrc> but I don't abuse web servers
14:24:16  <grimrc> I need to learn screen
14:24:32  <webfreakz> 'man screen'
14:24:52  <CIA-2> glx * r6411 /trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
14:24:52  <CIA-2> -Fix(r6410): forgot to update openttd*.sln (thx Darkvater and michi_cc :) )
14:24:52  <CIA-2> -Cleanup: Removed UNITTEST preprocessor checks
14:24:54  <grimrc> yeah I know that!  I just can't be arsed right now
14:25:45  <Sacro> all i use is "C_a s" to disconnect and "screen -r" to reattach
14:25:56  <Sacro> along with C_a C_k to kill
14:26:11  <Noldo_> Sacro: C_a d
14:26:13  <grimrc> great; I'll learn the emacs keys at the same time heh
14:26:58  <Sacro> Noldo_: my memory is going :(
14:26:58  <torm> wget is great when starting it in an ssh terminal as well
14:27:19  <torm> if you close the terminal window the file will finish downloading before the process is terminated
14:27:26  <Noldo_> Sacro: s happens to be somewhat fatal for a newbie
14:27:31  <michi_cc> glx: no idea if it causes any harm, but you didn't remove all of unittest from the solutions
14:27:34  <Sacro> suspend :P
14:27:47  <michi_cc> see
14:28:19  <torm> whats a good gtk/gnome based svn viewer?
14:28:33  * glx doesn't like MSVS files
14:28:42  <grimrc> screen doesn't use shift+pgup/pgdn in gnome-terminal :o(
14:28:52  <Sacro> grimrc: no :(
14:29:16  <grimrc> maybe you're supposed to tell gnome-terminal to run screen instead of bash
14:30:02  <grimrc> one day ...
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14:32:15  <CIA-2> glx * r6412 /trunk/ (openttd.sln openttd_vs80.sln): -Fix(r6411): forgot to remove some lines in openttd*.sln (thx michi_cc)
14:32:28  <Sacro> grimrc: yeah, that works
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15:19:19  <Brianetta> Sacro: Screen uses the alt-buffer, which has no scrollback.  Once you exit screen, you can scroll back in the shell session that started it.
15:19:38  <Brianetta> You can scroll back within screen by using Control+[ and then using arrow keys.
15:19:43  <Brianetta> Escape to exit.
15:20:33  <Sacro> grimrc: ping
15:20:35  <Sacro> Brianetta: cheers
15:21:09  <Noldo_> remember to exit because scrolling will block writing to the terminal killing atleast irssi
15:21:10  <Brianetta> Sorry, Ctrl-A then [
15:21:27  <Brianetta> irssi dies if you block it?
15:21:41  <Darkvater> you don't need to scroll in irssi
15:21:41  <Noldo_> ah sorry
15:21:45  <Darkvater> just usage pageup/down
15:21:57  <Brianetta> What if you want to background it to get some serious Tetris for Terminals done?
15:21:58  <Sacro> hmm
15:22:01  <Noldo_> it won't die, but the connections will timeout
15:22:18  <Brianetta> Its connections time out?  How are they dependant on the terminal?
15:23:12  <Darkvater> < home
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15:23:38  <Darkvater> if bjarni shows up inthe meantime can someone tell him that his problem is easily solvable with basic regexps?
15:25:25  <Noldo_> Brianetta: connections need something to read the incoming data and send stuff to keep them connected. If the process is stuck on a blocking write to the terminal the connections will timeout
15:26:02  <Brianetta> Meh.  I'd have checked that the fd could be written to
15:26:31  <Brianetta> Blocking IO stops your event loop, and shouldn't be used in something like IRC
15:29:36  <DaleStan> !seen Bjarni
15:29:38  <_42_> DaleStan, Bjarni ( was last seen quitting #openttd 16 hours 40 minutes ago (05.09. 22:49) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 14 hours 8 minutes there.
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16:48:24  <grimrc> pong
16:49:12  <Sacro> grimrc: CTRL+[ and then ? and ? to scroll in screen
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16:50:01  <grimrc> shame it doesn't work with gnome-terminal; I tried changing the option to get gnome-terminal 2.14.x to run screen and that worked, but scrolling didn't
16:50:15  <Sacro> it does, im using it myself
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16:54:40  <grimrc> I mean the widget scroll-bar
16:54:46  <grimrc> and the mouse-whell
16:54:49  <grimrc> whell
16:54:51  <grimrc> wheel
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16:55:31  <Sacro> mm
16:56:44  <grimrc> and shift-pageup/pagedown heh
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17:37:43  <CIA-2> belugas * r6413 /branches/XTDwidget/news_gui.c:
17:37:43  <CIA-2> [XTDwidget] -CodeChange: Removed a now useless array of data.
17:37:43  <CIA-2> It was used for setting the values to apply to _news_display_opt after a dropdown selection.
17:37:43  <CIA-2> Since there is a now a loop that enable/disable each of the buttons on same event,
17:37:43  <CIA-2> it is not necessary to keep that array.
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18:36:11  <valhallasw> webfreakz? :>
18:38:24  * webfreakz kicks valhallasw back to #nos
18:38:26  <webfreakz> :)
18:39:51  <valhallasw> :p
18:40:31  <webfreakz> :)
18:41:35  <DaleStan> Does anyone know when Bjarni usually gets here? Or, better yet, is anyone willing to test a possibly endian-safe version of grfcodec on a PPC processor?
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18:42:08  <webfreakz> !stats
18:42:09  <_42_> webfreakz:
18:44:43  <AsterixMG> DaleStan, well, usually bjarni is already here at this time :) and i don't have a ppc CPU, so i can't help out
18:45:12  <Sacro> lws1984 should be back soon
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18:47:08  <DaleStan> I'm trying to get Darwin to work in PearPC, but it's not working yet.
18:47:10  <Sacro> GODDAMNIT WHERE IS BJARNI ><
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18:59:23  <AsterixMG> hi Bjarni
19:00:03  <Bjarni> hi AsterixMG
19:00:13  <webfreakz> bjarni?
19:00:15  <webfreakz> (17:23:50) Darkvater: if bjarni shows up inthe meantime can someone tell him that his problem is easily solvable with basic regexps?
19:00:25  <Bjarni> what problem?
19:00:43  <webfreakz> don't know
19:00:47  <webfreakz> he said 'his problem'
19:00:53  <webfreakz> so maybe you know :)
19:00:55  <AsterixMG> hehe, webfreakz you were faster then me :) Bjarni he didn't mention
19:00:56  <Noldo_> searching some text pattern?
19:01:32  <Bjarni> I have absolutely no idea what he is talking about :s
19:01:55  <Noldo_> do you have any problems?
19:02:03  <Bjarni> yeah
19:02:03  <webfreakz> yeah, what's your problem?
19:02:04  <webfreakz> :)
19:02:11  <Bjarni> I have no idea what he was talking about
19:02:13  <DaleStan> Bjarni: <-- Got time to test and see if that actually does make grfcodec endian-aware?
19:05:01  <Sacro> [19:49] <<Sacro>> GODDAMNIT WHERE IS BJARNI ><
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19:06:54  <Bjarni> Sacro: I didn't submit that one :P
19:07:05  <Bjarni> even though I might have done it if I had seen it
19:07:10  <Sacro> well somebody did
19:07:10  <Bjarni> DaleStan: PM
19:07:36  <Sacro> anywho, no more therapist for me
19:07:51  <Bjarni> why not?
19:07:59  <Sacro> because its all my mums fault
19:08:30  <Bjarni> I think that's what you should talk to the therapist about
19:10:13  <Bjarni> YOU need to move on and get on with your life even though you might not be the cause of your situation
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19:10:35  <Born_Acorn> Being on IRC is like having 100 therapists.
19:10:44  <Sacro> yes, but the therapist cant do anything for me
19:10:52  <Sacro> unless she can actually give me a job/money
19:10:56  <Sacro> or get me into uni
19:12:06  <Bjarni> hmm
19:12:25  * Bjarni wonders if that would be possible
19:12:30  <Bjarni> the last, that is
19:13:03  <Sacro> well, ive almost got myself in
19:16:23  <Tron> DaleStan: decodetile() handles 16bit LE values, too
19:17:55  <Bjarni> Sacro: good.... but what do you mean by almost?
19:18:19  <Sacro> Bjarni: well, ive got all my old certificates, but they want a reference from when i went to college in 00-02
19:18:24  <Sacro> but all the tutors have left :(
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19:20:10  <Bjarni> Sacro: ALL of them left since 2002???? but that's only 4 years!
19:20:25  <Sacro> Bjarni: well most where past retirement age or senile...or both
19:20:38  <transport> y u kicked me?
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19:21:05  <Bjarni> transport: write full words to explain what you mean or be kicked
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19:21:08  <Bjarni> transport: write full words to explain what you mean or be kicked
19:21:15  <transport> iok
19:21:16  <transport> ok
19:21:35  <transport> hunter
19:21:44  <transport> cat
19:21:49  <transport> said
19:21:56  <transport> dog
19:21:58  <Bjarni> this
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19:22:00  <Bjarni> is
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19:22:03  <Sacro> ANNOYING
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19:22:14  <Sacro> danke schone transport
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19:22:20  <Sacro> bah, *Tron
19:22:32  <Bjarni> Tron beat me to it
19:22:40  <Sacro> damn, i was waiting for him to ask whether highways had been coded yet
19:22:41  <Tron> Sacro: it's spelled "danke schön"
19:22:54  <Sacro> Tron: its been 6 years since i did german, im a bit rusty
19:22:59  <Tron> or "danke schoen" if you're lacking the "ö"
19:23:09  <Sacro> well i was close
19:24:03  <Tron> don't take offence, i just pointed out the correct spelling
19:24:48  <Sacro> no, i dont take offence, i dont want you to take offence because i cant remember your language!
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19:27:07  <Born_Acorn> Wow. He comes back in many many many hours after he was kicked and asks "Why was I kicked?" Shouldn't he have noticed ages ago? :p
19:28:03  <Sacro> Born_Acorn: he went to school
19:28:11  <Bjarni> Sacro: *can't
19:28:25  <Sacro> Bjarni: pedant
19:28:28  <Bjarni> Sacro: do you take offence when I correct YOUR language? :)
19:28:35  <Tron> DaleStan:
19:28:36  <Sacro> Bjarni: only cos its you :P
19:28:41  <Born_Acorn> *because
19:28:49  <Born_Acorn> :p
19:28:57  * Sacro cries
19:29:10  <Born_Acorn> He took offence!
19:29:20  <Sacro> i never passed GCSE english ok
19:29:32  <Sacro> in fact, ive never taken it
19:29:52  <Bjarni> Sacro: take no offence. We are trying to fix the bugs in your spelling to upgrade you to university level
19:30:30  <Bjarni> you better hear it from us than from some assignment you handed in and it says "unreadable.... failed"
19:30:48  <Bjarni> though that's unlikely to happen
19:32:50  <Sacro> If I really try, then I can type perfectly well.
19:33:18  <Sacro> I just have no ability to sit down and write a story, or a poem.
19:34:04  <Sacro> Its really scuppered my career as a poet
19:34:09  <Bjarni> what do you plan on studying at the university?
19:34:28  <Sacro> Computer Science, maybe with games programming
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19:38:08  <JohnUK89Phone1> Evening :)
19:38:22  <Bjarni> Sacro: then forget about poem writing ;)
19:39:49  * Bjarni is still trying to figure out what Darkvater meant
19:39:57  <Bjarni> when would he be back?
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19:42:39  <Bjarni> ahh, now I know what he meant :D
19:43:06  <AsterixMG> so what did he mean? :)
19:44:38  <Bjarni> the heading for depot strings
19:44:46  <Bjarni> they all need to be changed
19:44:56  <Bjarni> and it's a pain to do it manually, so it needs to be scripted
19:45:17  <glx> without breaking translations ?
19:45:36  <AsterixMG> ah, that poll from the forums :)
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19:46:47  <Bjarni> glx: yeah, preferable without breaking translations :)
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20:15:06  <kele> hmmm.. anyone have  a list of what different factories accept?
20:15:07  <kele> Toyland is horrible, when you don't know where to ship all the weird stuff.
20:15:32  <Born_Acorn> It's horrible anyway. :p
20:16:08  <kele> you're right..
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20:17:14  <Born_Acorn> See. I am a bastion of common sense.
20:20:04  <Sacro> well you got the first 4 letters right...
20:22:25  * lws1984 slaps Sacro around with a starship
20:23:23  <Sacro> ooh new pbs discussions...
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20:26:20  <Sacro> netsplittage!!!
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20:26:43  <Sacro> wb all
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20:27:03  <Sacro> wb the rest of you
20:27:28  <smeding> hi.
20:27:34  <Sacro> smeding: hey
20:27:41  <Sacro> wb NickServ :P
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20:28:15  <Sacro> this is confusing
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20:42:31  <Bjarni> I look away for a moment and you break the channel
20:42:38  <Bjarni> you are like small children :P
20:42:50  <Sacro> it wasnt me
20:42:57  <Sacro> it was him ?
20:43:05  <kjetil> Lock them in the closet
20:43:06  <XeryusTC> and oftc didnt have netsplits without a warning? :P
20:43:19  <Sacro> see, kjetil admits it!
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20:45:19  <Sacro> i fancy doing some newsignals coding
20:45:40  <XeryusTC> you can code?
20:45:56  <Sacro> XeryusTC: yes
20:46:12  <Sacro> <?php echo "Hello World!" ?>
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20:50:07  <Bjarni> good
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20:51:00  <Bjarni> then tell me how to type a newline in a shell script string
20:51:38  <Sacro> \n
20:51:44  <Bjarni> tried that
20:51:48  <Bjarni> didn't work :(
20:51:48  <Sacro> 0xA
20:51:57  <Sacro> dont you just echo
20:52:02  <Sacro> a la MS-DOS
20:52:22  <Bjarni> I search a txt file for a string and I need one of the chars to be a newline char
20:52:36  <Bjarni> echo is no good for that
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20:53:12  <Sacro> echo -e
20:53:23  * Bjarni slaps Sacro
20:53:26  <Sacro> s/foo/\n/
20:53:30  <Bjarni> I'm not using echo
20:54:00  <Sacro> :( oh
20:54:26  <Tron> NEWLINE='
20:54:27  <Tron> '
20:54:50  <Sacro> Tron: that works!
20:55:07  <Tron> and if you grep for something at the end of the line do grep "foobar$" filename
20:55:20  <Tron> $ matches the EOL
20:56:49  <Bjarni> hmm
20:57:29  <Bjarni> still having an EOL left :(
20:57:35  <Bjarni> -STR_HEADING_FOR_HANGAR_SERVICE                                  :{LTBLUE}Flyver til {STATION} Hangar
20:57:36  <Bjarni> +
20:57:45  <Bjarni> I want to completely remove this line
20:57:53  <Tron> which tool?
20:58:26  <Bjarni> a script I found on the net
20:58:52  <Tron> *sigh*
20:58:58  <Tron> which tool?
20:58:59  <Bjarni> hmm
20:59:03  <Bjarni> where did it go...
20:59:05  <glx> sed "s@STR_HEADING_FOR_HANGAR_SERVICE$@@" should work
20:59:12  <Tron> grep, awk, sed, ed
20:59:15  <Darkvater> ello
20:59:19  <Sacro> ello Darkvater
20:59:21  <Bjarni> SEARCH=`echo "$S" | sed 's,/,\\/,g'`
20:59:22  <Bjarni>         REPLACE=`echo "$R" | sed 's,/,\\/,g'`
20:59:22  <Bjarni>         cat $i | sed "s/$SEARCH/$REPLACE/g" > $T
20:59:22  <Bjarni>         D="$?"
20:59:23  <glx> indeed I'm wrong
20:59:24  <Darkvater> still on about the strings :O
20:59:39  <Bjarni> Darkvater: yeah, learning how to script this stuff
20:59:41  <Bjarni> almost there
20:59:54  <Tron> wth?
20:59:55  <Bjarni> just leaving a blank line instead of removing the line
21:00:03  <Darkvater> I would just run UltraEdit or KDevelop and use that
21:00:04  <Darkvater> or even perl
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21:01:56  * Bjarni don't know perl
21:01:56  <Tron> (echo 'g/^STR_TO_REMOVE/d'; echo wq; ) | ed -s $FILE
21:02:08  <Darkvater> Belugas_Gone: you actually don't even need _news_display_opt for the news gui. It was only there because there were only max 32 widgets possible
21:02:27  <Darkvater> replace: STR_TO_REMOVE.*\n with: '' (nothing)
21:02:51  <Darkvater> (mine's not perl)
21:02:54  <Tron> this doesn't work
21:03:12  <Darkvater> ultraedit rulez
21:04:37  <Tron> #!/bin/sh
21:04:37  <Tron> for i in `svn di english.txt | grep '^-[^-]' | awk '{print substr(, 2)}'`
21:04:37  <Tron> do
21:04:37  <Tron>   for j in *.txt unfinished/*.txt
21:04:37  <Tron>   do
21:04:39  <Tron>     (echo "g/^$i *:/d"; echo wq) | ed -s $j
21:04:42  <Tron>   done
21:04:44  <Tron> done
21:04:50  <Darkvater> hmm, should I download MS vista RC1
21:04:55  <Darkvater>
21:04:57  <Tron> removes all lines in all language files which have been removed in english.txt
21:05:28  <Bjarni> even better than what I was trying :)
21:05:29  <Bjarni> thanks
21:05:49  <Sacro> Darkvater: ive got it here
21:06:08  <Darkvater> probably futile though :(. wouldn't run at any acceptable speed I reckon
21:06:28  <Sacro> i dunno, i got OSX 10.4.7 to try too
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21:14:57  <CoRnJuLIOx> hey, you think someone can look at my save game? i'm having a bit of an issue with the trains....
21:15:23  <Sacro> hmmm, mayb
21:15:25  <Sacro> e
21:15:28  <AsterixMG> what kind of issue?
21:15:42  <CoRnJuLIOx> see, i've made this little network delivering coal to two ppower plantz
21:15:45  <CoRnJuLIOx> plants*
21:15:58  <CoRnJuLIOx> and two of the trains i have running dont take the shorter route to the second power plant
21:16:26  <Sacro> ooh, which pathfinder?
21:16:30  <CoRnJuLIOx> dunno
21:16:35  <CoRnJuLIOx> waypoints don't seem to work either.
21:19:13  <CoRnJuLIOx> they do get to the power plant, just like i want them to, they just take the long way around.
21:20:42  <Sacro> w00t t3h young ones
21:21:00  <CoRnJuLIOx> ?
21:22:42  <Sacro> CoRnJuLIOx: classic humour
21:23:31  <CoRnJuLIOx> <--is not classic :-/
21:24:19  <Sacro> whoo, Allo Allo season 1
21:25:40  <Eddi|zuHause> CoRnJuLIOx: using electric rails?
21:26:34  <CoRnJuLIOx> monorails
21:27:14  <Eddi|zuHause> there are 3 reasons why a train would not take the shorter route:
21:27:23  <Eddi|zuHause> 1) a signal points in the wrong direction
21:27:29  <Eddi|zuHause> 2) the rail is incompatible
21:27:56  <Eddi|zuHause> 3) the shorter way is actually longer, according to pathfinder penalties (red signals, level crossings, stations, etc.)
21:28:23  <AsterixMG> 4) it can't take the turn to the shorter route
21:28:31  <Sacro> 5) boredom
21:29:02  <Eddi|zuHause> i would count that to 2, AsterixMG
21:29:18  <AsterixMG> hmm, ok, then its really only 3 :)
21:30:09  <Sacro> "there is a women to see you, in the back, she has a gun" "she doesnt have a pram does she?"
21:30:11  <CoRnJuLIOx> hmm..checking all 4
21:30:43  <CoRnJuLIOx> rail incompatibility: nope. the rails are right, ditto with the signals
21:30:56  <CoRnJuLIOx> it CAN take the turn, so it must be 3, or possibly 5.
21:31:09  <CoRnJuLIOx> pathfinder penalties?
21:31:34  <CoRnJuLIOx> does it matter if i set those two trains to run through a waypoint on the path i want them to take?
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21:40:01  <AsterixMG> if you set them to go through a waypoint they should pass that waypoint, regardless of penalties
21:40:14  <CoRnJuLIOx> but they dont pass through it at all
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21:41:17  <AsterixMG> could you put your savegame somewhere to look at?
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21:41:37  <AsterixMG> and btw, miniin or nightly or 048?
21:41:58  <Sacro> 0.4.8 :p
21:42:25  <AsterixMG> .. :P
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21:42:38  <CoRnJuLIOx> i think its nightly...
21:42:56  <CoRnJuLIOx> uhmm...anyone have an ftp server i can borrow? i don't have fileshare :-/
21:43:14  <Sacro>
21:44:07  <CoRnJuLIOx> alright, who wants it?
21:45:02  <AsterixMG> is it somewhere to download?
21:46:09  <CoRnJuLIOx> nope
21:46:34  <CoRnJuLIOx> apparantly i need a recipient email address
21:47:00  <AsterixMG> hmm, how big is it? :)
21:47:21  <CoRnJuLIOx> checking
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21:47:59  <CoRnJuLIOx> 1.34 mb
21:49:13  <Sacro> whooo the swollen madonna with the big boobies
21:49:20  <Sacro> s/swollen/fallen :S
21:49:43  <Eddi|zuHause> you could try removing the rails they are currently following, and check if they really can pass that track if they are forced through it
21:50:43  <glx> Darkvater: http://glx.CoRnJuLIOx: you can DCC it to me and I'll host it
21:50:55  <glx> weird client :)
21:51:13  <glx> CoRnJuLIOx: you can DCC it to me and I'll host it
21:51:13  <Eddi|zuHause> yes, indeed ;)
21:51:28  <glx> it was blocked
21:52:39  <Sacro> ROFL
21:53:23  <CoRnJuLIOx> dunno how to initialize DCC with this client
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22:42:01  <Sacro_> oh noes
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22:43:46  <CIA-2> bjarni * r6414 /trunk/lang/ (23 files): -GUI change: heading for depot is now shown as either "Service at depot" (service) in orange or "Heading for depot" (stopping) in light blue
22:44:18  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lmao thats old :p
22:44:18  *** JohnUK89Phone1 is now known as JohnUK89
22:44:31  <Bjarni> what's old?
22:44:56  <Bjarni> my commit?
22:44:57  <JohnUK89> Sacro saying oh noes when I come in here
22:45:02  <Bjarni> ahh
22:45:17  <Bjarni> the rest of us just thinks it without actually writing it
22:45:46  <JohnUK89> Glad to see i'm liked so much ;-)
22:45:59  <Bjarni> :P
22:47:16  <JohnUK89> Nice commit btw :)
22:48:44  <JohnUK89> I'll bag a copy of trunk when i get at a pc again
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22:52:40  <JohnUK89Phone1> Bah lol
22:53:00  <Sacro> tee hee
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22:53:28  <JohnUK89Phone1> Applet crashed :(
22:55:51  <Sacro> hee
22:56:43  <JohnUK89Phone1> Not funny :p
22:58:13  <CIA-2> bjarni * r6415 /trunk/lang/ (23 files):
22:58:13  <CIA-2> -Fix r6414: switched orange and light blue colours in last commit, so they now fit what we agreed upon (oops)
22:58:13  <CIA-2>  stopping is now orange and service is now light blue
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22:59:08  <Darkvater> nice going Bjarni :+
22:59:11  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lmao Bjarni
22:59:38  <Sacro> bobodys nerfect
22:59:46  <Sacro> s/^b/p/
23:00:21  <Bjarni> ok, I had a rough day :s
23:00:24  <JohnUK89Phone1> True...especially me :p
23:01:08  <Bjarni> Sacro: popodys nerfect?
23:01:34  <JohnUK89Phone1> Nobody's perfect*
23:01:54  <Bjarni> I know, but I wanted to see Sacro spell that :P
23:01:55  <Sacro> im dyslexic
23:02:00  <glx> Bjarni: s/^b/p/ not s/b/p/g
23:02:02  <Bjarni> oh
23:02:13  <Sacro> well, on IRC
23:02:31  <Sacro> when my eyes go crossed and im balancing a guitar
23:02:32  <Eddi|zuHause> "i'm"
23:02:43  <Bjarni> *"I'm"
23:02:44  <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: grrr
23:02:55  <Sacro> bugger offa my language
23:03:08  <Bjarni> offa?
23:03:17  <Bjarni> this time I really don't get what you mean :s
23:03:28  <Sacro> off of :P
23:03:34  * AsterixMG goes to bed now
23:03:40  <Bjarni> ahh
23:03:41  <Bjarni> night AsterixMG
23:03:42  <AsterixMG> good night @all
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23:03:45  <Sacro> night AsterixMG
23:04:19  <Bjarni> Sacro: well, the keys are right next to each other and it's nearly the same amount of keystrokes, so I can see how you could mistype it :p
23:04:19  <JohnUK89Phone1> Bugger off my language* :p
23:04:19  <JohnUK89Phone1> Off of* ;p
23:05:16  <JohnUK89Phone1> I'm considering getting an ergonomic keyboard
23:05:27  <JohnUK89Phone1> Not sure yet thoug
23:05:31  <Sacro> im considering changing channels
23:05:33  <JohnUK89Phone1> Though*
23:05:34  <Sacro> going back to freenode
23:05:51  <JohnUK89Phone1> :O
23:05:57  <Sacro> ##openttd
23:06:15  <JohnUK89Phone1> Noooooo!!
23:06:40  <Sacro> lol
23:07:50  <JohnUK89Phone1> I can't be on multiple networks at the same time on me phone
23:08:29  <Bjarni> then we should do it
23:08:39  <Bjarni> write every other line on freenode
23:08:51  <JohnUK89Phone1> I can change networks though
23:09:02  <JohnUK89Phone1> Damn you!
23:09:45  <Bjarni> why don't you say use a computer like the rest of us?
23:09:54  <JohnUK89Phone1> Mind you, you'll just get booted off freenode every few minutes :p
23:10:08  <JohnUK89Phone1> Because i'm not near one
23:10:14  <Bjarni> oh that reminds me
23:10:42  *** JohnUK89Phone1 was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [time for your periodical kick from this channel]
23:10:58  <Bjarni> he will be back
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23:11:12  <Sacro> true
23:11:14  <JohnUK89Phone1> Bugger
23:11:17  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:11:55  <Bjarni> now that we lack freenode to kick you, I have to do it manually
23:12:05  <Bjarni> and we got Sacro to spam instead of lilo
23:12:07  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lmao
23:12:43  <Sacro> >>>>>>>>> IM BORED <<<<<<<<<<<<< :P
23:12:57  <Sacro> »»»»»»»» oooh sexy arrows «««««««««««««««««
23:13:22  <Sacro> ????<--><-->ABAB...
23:13:30  <JohnUK89Phone1> Hehe, you're right about the spam Bjarni
23:13:32  <Sacro> start select i think it was
23:13:49  <Bjarni> I'm always right
23:13:55  <Bjarni> I thought you knew that by now
23:13:57  <Sacro> oooh, apparently my uncle just died and left me an oil well...
23:13:59  <JohnUK89Phone1> True :p
23:14:18  <Sacro> however i need £30,000 in fee's to get it :( but its worth 1.2M
23:14:22  <JohnUK89Phone1> Sacro: lucky bastard!
23:14:46  <Sacro> JohnUK89Phone1: dont suppose you could help me out with some cash...ill cut you in on the profits
23:14:51  <Bjarni> I think he is just making it up
23:15:02  <Sacro> Bjarni: ssssssh
23:15:09  <Bjarni> like lilo would to get people to donate £30.000
23:15:10  <JohnUK89Phone1> Sacro: would do if I had any money
23:15:15  <JohnUK89Phone1> :P
23:15:21  <Sacro> Bjarni: the US goverment?
23:16:27  * tokai shrugs
23:16:39  <tokai> goverment... wtf. :)
23:18:02  * Sacro plots the downfall of something
23:18:26  * JohnUK89Phone1 is bored lol
23:18:43  * Sacro watches security footage
23:19:10  * JohnUK89Phone1 decides he will play Uplink tomorrow
23:19:26  <JohnUK89Phone1> Got a bank to hack ;-)
23:19:58  <Sacro> nah, just work
23:20:17  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:20:27  <Sacro> seeing which sexy students have been in today
23:20:57  <JohnUK89Phone1> Haha, I'm at sixth form tomorrow :(
23:21:18  <JohnUK89Phone1> Will take uplink on my usb stick to play during the breaks
23:22:06  <JohnUK89Phone1> Or even better, openttd :-)
23:22:07  <Sacro> ooh, the girl i fancy is in t'paper on sunday
23:22:22  <Sacro> i might set up a MiniIN dedi at work
23:22:23  <JohnUK89Phone1> Nice one ;-)
23:22:30  <Sacro> JohnUK89Phone1: not
23:22:38  <Sacro> well, being in t'paper anyway
23:23:14  <Bjarni> <Sacro>	ooh, the girl i fancy is in t'paper on sunday <-- on page 3?
23:23:17  <JohnUK89Phone1>'s a shame that my school block all ports but 80 and 8080...would be a good place to play OpenTTD otherwise
23:23:34  <Bjarni> host on port 8080 then
23:23:54  <Sacro> Bjarni: dunno what page, doubt 3, but then it is News Of The Would, an they don have naked ladies
23:23:58  <JohnUK89Phone1> It's connecting to other games that poses the problem
23:24:13  <Bjarni> ahh
23:24:30  <Sacro> proxies ftw
23:24:39  <Bjarni> find a proxy that allows you to connect to any port while tunneling out on 80 or 8080
23:25:00  <JohnUK89Phone1> Fancy helping with that? Lol
23:25:41  <JohnUK89Phone1> Needs to run on winblows
23:25:50  <Bjarni> at one time, there was a guy in this channel, who set up his computer at home as a proxy, so he could check out svn from work even though the port was blocked
23:26:18  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:26:37  * Sacro sets up tor
23:26:52  <JohnUK89Phone1> Tor?
23:27:13  <Bjarni> he claimed to be able to code a lot of stuff, but never submitted a single diff
23:27:58  <Sacro> JohnUK89Phone1: yes
23:28:13  <JohnUK89Phone1> What is tor? Lol
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23:28:26  <Sacro> anonymous packet routing
23:28:33  <JohnUK89Phone1> Aah
23:28:53  <JohnUK89Phone1> Does it tunnel too?
23:30:18  <Sacro> buh?
23:30:22  <Sacro> yeah, i think ssh can use it
23:31:06  <JohnUK89Phone1> I'll have a look ;-)
23:31:32  <Sacro> im feeling paranoid tonight
23:31:57  <JohnUK89Phone1> You're always paranoid...
23:33:34  <Sacro> ahh
23:33:38  <Sacro> lets see how this works now
23:33:49  <Sacro> then i can reroute my IRC packets
23:34:33  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol if I can get something like that working i can reroute all my packets to my connection
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23:36:02  <Sacro> mwahahaha
23:36:38  <JohnUK89Phone1> May be slower but it's a better option for anything except browsing
23:36:55  <JohnUK89Phone1> Ie IRC lol
23:37:34  <Sacro> hehe, everytime i use a website to check my ip it changes
23:37:57  <JohnUK89Phone1> Mine's preety much constant
23:38:09  <JohnUK89Phone1> Pretty*
23:38:28  <Bjarni> <Sacro>	im feeling paranoid tonight <-- you mean that there are people on the street?
23:40:58  <Sacro> Bjarni: yes
23:41:22  <JohnUK89Phone1> It's the bailliffs!!
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23:42:17  <JohnUK89Phone1> They took his laptop!!!
23:42:22  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:42:23  <Sacro> hmm, now should be proxied
23:42:53  <torm> morning all
23:43:00  <Sacro> how to tell...
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23:43:07  <JohnUK89Phone1> Morning torm
23:43:52  <Darkvater> gn all
23:43:52  <Torm> Johnny boy... how goes?
23:44:04  <Torm> ergh, my brain hurts
23:44:14  <JohnUK89Phone1> Argh...please don't call me johnny
23:44:23  <Torm> lol i see
23:44:27  <Torm> Sally boy
23:44:46  * JohnUK89Phone1 kicks torm
23:45:16  <Torm> lol
23:46:01  <Torm> didnt get to bed till 4am... i'm so gonna be paying for it today
23:46:34  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol i need sleep myself, i'm up in 6 hours or so
23:46:48  <Sacro> im getting picked up at half 9 for work
23:47:06  <Torm> heh, back when i was playing WoW i didnt sleep at all, i would play for 27 hours a day...
23:47:27  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:47:37  <Torm> my ex still plays, at least 12 hours a day... *sigh*
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23:47:56  <JohnUK89Phone1> I've never played WoW, don't want to
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23:48:29  <Sacro> mm, it still appears to be giving out my public ip
23:48:40  <Torm> it's fun but you get bored after a while... towards the end the only reason i went online was to talk to my mates cos i couldnt reach em on MSN or ICQ
23:49:08  <Torm> Sacro: what? irc?
23:49:11  <JohnUK89Phone1> Lol
23:49:33  <Sacro> Torm: yeah, im going into paranoid lockdown mode
23:50:03  <Torm> whys that? had a security scare?
23:50:15  <JohnUK89Phone1> Right I'm gone, night all :)
23:50:25  <Torm> catcha mate
23:50:34  <Torm> see ya in 6 hours :P
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23:51:04  <Sacro> nope, somethign to do
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23:51:28  <Torm> oops, closed the wrong window
23:51:32  <Sacro> Torm: no, tis something for me to do
23:52:32  <Torm> i've got my domain name pointed at my modem IP but when you ping it, it resolves to the ISP's long domain
23:52:42  <Torm> i wish i could get it to come up as my domain instead
23:53:25  <Torm> try pinging
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23:53:40  <Sacroirrsi> hmm, that aint worked :(
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23:53:59  <Torm> connect thru a proxy?
23:54:11  <Sacro> i dont know how to tell...
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23:55:36  <Torm> same with me man
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23:56:11  <Sacro> anywhoo, bedtime
23:56:12  <Sacro> night all
23:56:18  <Torm|irssi> night man
23:56:31  <Torm|irssi> i'm gonna have a play and see if i can get it to hide my ip :P
23:56:42  <Sacro> yeah
23:56:59  <Sacro> im pretty sure either tor, or t'other app should do it
23:57:17  <Sacro> oh well, sleepy
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