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00:06:49 <Bjarni> night people 00:06:52 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:07:30 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-162-4.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:30 *** jez [splitch@client-86-27-93-144.winn.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [] 00:11:01 <grimrc> link? 00:18:04 <UnderBuilder> to what? 00:18:51 <grimrc> your suggestion 00:18:58 <grimrc> not important - I'm just curious 00:22:00 <Belugas_Gone> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=27481 00:22:13 <Belugas_Gone> not curious enough to look by yourself ;) 00:23:09 <grimrc> certainly not 00:23:52 <grimrc> oh well - I don't like it 00:24:00 <UnderBuilder> as I said 00:24:10 *** gw280 [authdenied@81.91.110.54] has left #openttd [] 00:24:10 <UnderBuilder> no one will look to that 00:24:45 <CIA-2> belugas * r6484 /trunk/newgrf_text.c: 00:24:45 <CIA-2> -Undo (partly)r6289. If a grf writer wants a string been only a space, why should it be blocked? 00:24:45 <CIA-2> It is the wrong test at the wrong place 00:28:11 <Belugas_Gone> point is, i think, as in many cases, that we are in the business of tranportation. 00:28:13 <Belugas_Gone> nothing more 00:28:34 <Belugas_Gone> it is beyond that scope 00:33:26 <UnderBuilder> the point is that instead of random offers to a company of a new loco we have a 'best company get the vehicles before' one 00:34:02 <glx> it's already the best company first 00:34:15 <UnderBuilder> never noted that 00:34:18 <CIA-2> belugas * r6485 /trunk/ (currency.c currency.h newgrf.c): 00:34:18 <CIA-2> -NewGRF Feature: Match the order of TTDPatch's currencies with those used in OTTD. 00:34:18 <CIA-2> This will not reorder OTTD's currencies, but will make it so that 00:34:18 <CIA-2> currencies affected by a grf will be those aimed by the writer. 00:34:20 <glx> then the seconf if the first declines it ... 00:35:00 <UnderBuilder> that depends of company rating? 00:35:19 <glx> company score I think 00:35:40 <UnderBuilder> that was thinking I 00:53:32 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.112] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.7/2006090918]] 01:01:59 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:05:04 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 01:08:54 <CIA-2> glx * r6486 /trunk/currency.c: -Fix (r6485): wrong variable name used in GetNewgrfCurrencyIdConverted() 01:12:30 *** grimrc [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:25:57 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:18 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 01:45:23 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:46:36 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F266.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:31 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:47:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 01:50:52 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B756ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:01:57 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:11:25 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176100183.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 02:18:32 *** robobed is now known as roboboy 02:18:34 <roboboy> hello 02:20:00 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 02:21:20 <Belugas_Gone> 'loo 02:27:18 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2DB0D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:07 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2DD35.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:36:46 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3D9D7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:42:58 <CIA-2> belugas * r6487 /branches/XTDwidget/ (46 files in 3 dirs): [XTDwidget] -Synch with trunk r6451:r6486 02:48:28 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:51:42 <roboboy> bye 02:51:48 *** roboboy is now known as roboout 03:22:53 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:36:32 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: -] 03:36:51 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:52:52 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 04:54:46 *** Guest56 [Gono@N841P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 04:54:57 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has joined #openttd 05:00:10 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N788P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:00:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7537A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:03:06 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 05:24:33 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 05:25:17 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:31:43 *** guru3 [~guru3@81-231-230-95-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 05:32:32 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 06:05:22 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 06:20:29 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C481.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:37:01 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 06:48:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 06:53:30 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 07:06:29 *** UserError [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:07:19 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-153-71.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 07:09:56 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 07:10:43 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 07:13:03 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:08 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 07:31:21 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 07:31:24 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 07:38:18 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-230-005.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:45:37 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C481.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 07:48:18 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 07:56:53 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:10:16 <Darkvater> has bjarni finally gone insane? 08:10:34 <Darkvater> Vehicle ***vehicle_list << get a life dude 08:29:43 <Maedhros> mmm. trains with "Service at ..." in their orders have that order show up in orange with "Heading for ..." in the status bar 08:41:20 <hylje> o rly 08:42:47 <Maedhros> ya rly 08:43:29 <Darkvater> is that a problematic comment or a praising one? 08:44:10 <Maedhros> it should be in blue with "Service at ...", like when you ctrl+click the depot icon, shouldn't it? 08:44:49 <hylje> its scheluded so.. 08:46:05 <Darkvater> ah like that 08:46:17 <Darkvater> yes, if the orders say 'service at' it should not change colour 08:46:24 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 08:48:35 <Darkvater> Maedhros: take it up with bjarni when he gets bakc 08:50:05 <Maedhros> Darkvater: ok 08:51:21 <hylje> btw, is there a openttd-svn ebuild somewhere 08:52:00 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 08:52:06 <Maedhros> i made one, once upon a time, but it ended up being more trouble than it was worth 08:52:16 <hylje> ic 08:52:28 <Maedhros> i just compile and run from the svn directory now; it's much easier 08:52:45 <hylje> i do so as well 08:52:54 <hylje> but for systemwide usage 08:54:57 <Maedhros> oh, looks like i've still got it 08:54:59 <Maedhros> http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/openttd-svn-9999.ebuild 08:55:37 <Maedhros> it was based off an old ebuild though, so it might be a bit out of date... e.g. the unconditional sdl dependency 08:57:05 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:08:34 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:08:45 <Torm> goodevening all :) 09:42:35 *** Torm [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:57 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:01:12 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:01:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 10:03:55 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:06:42 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:09:51 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 10:09:54 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 10:14:11 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:29:03 *** jez [toyota@client-82-9-19-3.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 10:29:17 <jez> Anyone know if a patch is being worked on to upgrade a train depot, and all the trains in it, to a different track type? 10:32:45 <mikk36> there have been tries 10:32:49 <mikk36> but unsuccessful ones 10:32:50 <Nigel> that'd be nice 10:32:52 <mikk36> read the forums 10:33:16 <Nigel> jez, if you write it, then sure! 10:36:39 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-22-24.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 10:38:38 *** Ammler [~Ammler@215-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #openttd 10:46:11 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:52:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7537A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:37 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:56:27 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7608D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:52 *** jez9999 [trestra@client-82-2-140-14.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has joined #openttd 11:03:25 *** jez [toyota@client-82-9-19-3.manc.adsl.virgin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:04:35 *** jez9999 is now known as jez 11:07:52 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:19:36 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 11:30:35 *** Dmitry [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has joined #openttd 11:32:25 *** Ammler [~Ammler@215-205.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:35:19 <roboout> gnight 11:35:24 *** roboout is now known as robobed 11:36:45 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@ns.vdv-s.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:02 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-162-4.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 11:54:30 <Bjarni> jez: to make it in a non hackish way is rather hard, so I think the answer is no for the time being 12:00:14 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:00:28 <mikk36> one question though 12:00:43 <mikk36> the trains and wagons do have type number, right ? 12:01:47 <mikk36> just a simple memorize->sell->convert->buy script would be fine then ? 12:03:23 <mikk36> would be easier even if i could change just 1 train at a time 12:03:32 <mikk36> with a click 12:08:08 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 12:13:07 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 12:13:07 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:37 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:16:10 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:19:12 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:15 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 12:23:20 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:24:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has quit [Quit: Read error: Connection reset by sortepeer] 12:35:20 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:35:35 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:42 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.5/2006091003]] 12:41:18 <CIA-2> rubidium * r6488 /branches/MiniIN/settings_gui.c: [MiniIN] -Fix: missed one comma, which caused the patches window to blow when opened. 12:42:06 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:42:38 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:48:44 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:53:17 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-153-71.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:19 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:54:55 *** Guest56 [Gono@N892P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:56:58 *** Trenskow [~outlet@85.218.142.227] has joined #openttd 12:59:12 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:00:43 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N841P010.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:03:15 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 13:04:17 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:21:05 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C481.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:21:50 *** UserErr0r [UserErr0r@c-67-186-212-30.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 13:23:07 <ln-> what's the value of b in e.g. "b = a < 2;", if a = 1? 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16:55:51 <helb> hi 17:11:14 *** PAStheLoD [pas@catv-5063c018.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:23 <jez> How was the default AI in OpenTTD coded? 17:12:37 <hylje> badly 17:16:28 <Prof_Frink> jez: It looked where it needed to go, put a blindfold on, was spun around 5 times, then works out the route from memory. 17:16:34 <Prof_Frink> While drunk. 17:17:12 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:25:46 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80CB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83464.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:27:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 17:30:17 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:37:28 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-157.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:55 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-22-24.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:59 *** jonty-comp 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joined #openttd 18:40:01 <jez> I need some advice with regard to the OpenTTD source code 18:40:09 <cantares> just ask 18:40:09 *** PAStheLoD [pas@catv-5063c018.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:40:16 *** PAStheLoD [pas@catv-5063c018.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 18:40:19 <jez> I'd like to change one of the custom Window structure types, facesel_d 18:40:35 <cantares> i personally have no idea about that, but i am drunk and i think i can solve every problem o.o 18:40:55 <jez> currently it has: 18:40:55 <jez> uint32 face; 18:40:55 <jez> byte gender; 18:41:31 <jez> i'd like to remove the byte gender, it's totally unnecessary with my new face window patch 18:41:38 <jez> and replace it with int16 data_1, data_2, data_3, data_4; 18:41:43 <jez> allowing lots of custom data to be held 18:42:08 <cantares> why? 18:42:20 <jez> because I need to draw some fake widgets and need somewhere to store their click state 18:43:02 <Rubidium> jez: do you have more than about 24 clickable widgets? 18:43:09 <jez> yes, i have more than 32 :-) 18:43:38 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> europa.oftc.net quits: _42_ 18:44:05 *** Gonozal_VIII [Gono@N892P011.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:44:17 <Rubidium> isn't that GUI going to be too full? 18:44:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: _42_ 18:45:38 <jez> Judge for yourself: http://www.game-point.net/misc/progress2.png 18:47:35 <Rubidium> and the widget below the face is for a random face? 18:47:53 *** Guest56 is now known as Gonozal_VIII 18:48:01 <jez> yep :-) 18:49:09 <cantares> looks a bit overfilled with buttons, i think the main focus of the game isn't the "avatar" - creation o.o 18:49:27 <jez> some of us have been annoyed at that aspect for years ;-) 18:50:20 <cantares> i just smash ne random button until somethink acceptable comes up and start build my train networj 18:50:27 <jez> heh 18:51:58 <Rubidium> jez: you know that click_state is only used for drawing purposes, i.e. it's only there to give you visual feedback on clicks 18:52:09 <jez> yeah 18:52:14 <jez> looks crap if it doesn't press in, though 18:52:21 <Rubidium> hmm, are those widgets between the < and > clickable? 18:52:35 <jez> yeah. i'm modelling it kinda after the news settings window. 18:53:11 <cantares> reminds me at the.. erm moment,, 18:54:29 <Rubidium> I'm wondering whether it's worth to create a small extension to the click system when Belugas is already busy with making the number of clickable widget virtually unlimited 18:54:50 <cantares> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS <-- a 128bit filesystem... designed that no case could bring it to the limits.... 18:55:12 <jez> it's not really an extension to the click system 18:55:20 <Maedhros> 640k should be enough for anybody, remember? ;) 18:55:24 <jez> it's just allowing more custom data for that custom structure type 18:55:27 <jez> heh 18:56:15 <jez> Rubidium: Do all the current values of the window structures get saved in a savegame file? im guessing they do 18:56:38 <Rubidium> no, they don't 18:58:36 <jez> ah i see 18:58:45 <jez> right well it'll be fully backwards compatible anyway 18:58:51 <jez> .gender won't get used anymore 18:59:22 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83464.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:37 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3704F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:00:18 <Rubidium> so you can remove it 19:00:22 <jez> yup 19:00:36 <jez> im just asking would that be a stumbling block in getting it checked in :-P 19:02:14 <Sionide> heh 19:02:15 <Sionide> insane 19:02:16 <Sionide> Max file size 16 exabytes 19:02:16 <Sionide> Max number of files 248 19:02:22 <Sionide> 2^48, that is 19:04:15 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:04:21 <Nego> hello 19:04:51 <Nego> I wanna know if someone could help me :) 19:04:57 <cantares> Hmm 19:04:59 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-17-190.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has joined #openttd 19:05:03 <cantares> stop asking metaquestions 19:05:10 <cantares> and ask your question... 19:05:12 <cantares> o.o 19:05:15 <Nego> ah ok sorry:) 19:05:19 <Nego> its about adding a server 19:05:32 <glx> and ? 19:05:35 <Nego> I just downloaded the autopilot BOT 19:05:39 <cantares> i don't know anything about that 19:05:47 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:05:49 <Nego> ah whell ok 19:05:57 <glx> which OS? 19:06:04 <Nego> Windows 19:06:17 <Nego> was wondering how I could play with a friend of mine 19:06:18 <glx> ok did you get convert.zip too? 19:06:31 <Nego> autopilot_202_555.zip 19:06:35 <Nego> this is what I have 19:07:04 <glx> you need to install activetcl first 19:07:11 <Nego> I read on a forum that the Autopilot pauzes the game and saves it, if nobody is online 19:07:21 <jez> interesting 19:07:26 <Nego> glx 19:07:29 <glx> yes Autopilot does that 19:07:29 <Nego> where can I find that 19:08:36 <glx> http://activestate.com/Products/ActiveTcl/ <-- activetcl is here 19:09:04 <jez> When I redefine one of these structs to be too big, it doesn't fail to compile even though there's a "assert_compile(WINDOW_CUSTOM_SIZE >= sizeof(facesel_d));" below it. 19:10:01 <Nego> isn't there a free download ?? 19:10:34 <Nego> a found it, sorry :) 19:11:28 <Rubidium> jez: how big have you made it? 19:12:03 <jez> i made it massive to test, like over 200 bytes 19:12:06 <glx> Nego: you'll need convert.zip too (http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=490231#490231) 19:12:07 <jez> didnt cause a problem :-) 19:12:12 <jez> anyway i made it 96 bytes now 19:12:48 <Rubidium> why do you need 96 bytes for that GUI? 19:13:10 <Nego> where to unzip it?? 19:13:15 <Nego> just in the main Root? 19:13:34 <glx> just put convert.exe in the same dir as openttd.exe 19:13:42 <Nego> ah ok, thats what I ment 19:13:58 <Nego> Install the ActiveTCL? 19:14:02 *** pumpkin [~ram@ip-83-99-17-190.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has left #openttd [Leaving] 19:14:08 <glx> yes install tcl :) 19:14:34 <glx> where you want 19:14:42 <jez> Rubidium: i don't, but as i'm changing the struct i thought i might as well provide handles for all the available space 19:15:06 <glx> Brianetta: could you put convert.zip in the first post of autopilot thread ? 19:15:26 <Brianetta> glx: Yeah 19:16:03 <Nego> GLX: What if the server shuts down with Autopilot, does he saves the game? 19:16:16 <Nego> and ActiveTCL is installed 19:16:32 <glx> yes autopilot takes care of saving 19:16:52 <glx> ok open a console (cmd.exe) 19:16:58 <Nego> I have 19:17:05 <glx> go in openttd dir 19:17:07 <Rubidium> jez: when somebody needs it, (s)he can add the bits/bytes (s)he needs; please don't add stuff that you're not using as other users might think that those bits/bytes are used and they are going to make the struct (WINDOW_CUSTOM_SIZE) even bigger, while there are 90 free bytes 19:17:50 <Nego> I am right now 19:18:08 <glx> you did extract autopilot in this dir ? 19:18:11 <jez> ok then 19:18:23 <Nego> yes:) 19:19:00 <Brianetta> glx: Edited, linked (not re-attached) 19:19:20 <glx> ok open openttd.cfg and add lines from openttd_additional.cfg 19:19:34 <glx> Brianetta: thanx (will be easier for windows users :) ) 19:19:41 <Nego> at the bottum?? 19:20:03 <glx> yes 19:20:15 <glx> that's the autopilot config :) 19:20:24 <Nego> ah ok:) 19:20:27 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:20:46 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-162-4.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21:02 <Nego> done 19:21:12 <glx> run convert.exe 19:21:30 <Nego> it said 19:21:42 <glx> should say "GUI mode detected. Converting to console" 19:21:45 <Nego> yes:) 19:22:01 <glx> now "tclsh autopilot.tcl" 19:22:08 <Nego> run aswell? 19:22:44 <Brianetta> If you're feeling really brave you can just double-click it 19:23:05 <glx> there's no output with double clic 19:23:12 <Brianetta> ah 19:23:18 <Nego> autopilot.tcl 19:23:21 <Nego> online got this file? 19:23:29 <Nego> only9 19:23:32 <Nego> only* 19:23:34 <Nego> sorry :) 19:23:41 <Brianetta> You shoul dhave a bunch of tcl files 19:23:47 <glx> tclsh is part of activetcl 19:24:01 <Nego> isn't working it said 19:24:16 <glx> what does it say? 19:24:35 <Nego> something in dutch 19:24:45 <Brianetta> Nego: Run tclsh on its own 19:24:47 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:24:50 <Nego> isn't a recognized internal command 19:24:59 <Brianetta> You have a Tcl installation problem 19:25:03 <glx> cmd was open while installing activetcl? 19:25:06 <Nego> wait 19:25:09 <Brianetta> It's probably not in your path, if it's installed 19:25:19 <Nego> tcshl runs on its own so:) 19:25:43 <glx> close the console and reopen it 19:25:51 <jez> Rubidium: I'm assuming that means it's OK to define my new small structure member 19:25:53 * Brianetta nods 19:26:39 <Nego> couldn't read file "autopilot.tcl": No such file or directory 19:27:00 <glx> you should run it from openttd dir 19:27:08 <Rubidium> yes, if it's used it's ok 19:27:34 <Nego> ah working 19:27:39 <Nego> autopilot engaged 19:28:05 <glx> good news :) 19:28:29 <Nego> ghehehe 19:28:38 <Nego> so I can add a new server right now? 19:28:58 <glx> the server is launch already :) 19:30:01 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@p54B3704F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 19:30:14 <Nego> without a IP 19:30:24 <Nego> and not the right MAP i want to use 19:30:47 <glx> the ip is the same as your computer :) 19:30:59 <Nego> why does it say 19:31:05 <Nego> 0.0.0.0 19:31:21 <glx> that means all available IP 19:31:25 <Nego> ah ok 19:31:34 <Nego> and how can I increase the map size? 19:31:52 <glx> in openttd.cfg (before running autopilot) 19:32:01 <CIA-2> miham * r6489 /trunk/lang/ (italian.txt slovak.txt): 19:32:01 <CIA-2> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-09-20 21:31:31 19:32:01 <CIA-2> italian - 12 changed by sidew (12) 19:32:01 <CIA-2> slovak - 8 fixed, 3 changed by lengyel (11) 19:32:10 <glx> type "quit" in autopilot console 19:32:35 <glx> and make the changes you need in openttd.cfg 19:33:22 <Nego> okok thanks alot:) 19:33:27 <Nego> and it says, server offline? 19:33:45 <glx> that's another thing (not autopilot dependant :) ) 19:34:11 <glx> do you have a router ? 19:34:26 <Nego> yes 19:34:31 <Nego> wich port is it using? 19:34:32 <glx> !openttd port 19:34:38 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:39 <Nego> wich one? 19:34:46 <glx> !openttd help 19:34:54 * glx slaps _42_ 19:34:57 <Nego> :P 19:35:15 <_42_> glx: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 19:35:19 <_42_> glx: available commands: commit date download files help log port svn url user 19:35:36 <glx> ok it is just very slow tonight :) 19:36:14 <glx> Nego: now you know the ports needed :) 19:36:28 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:36:47 <Nego> 3978 and 3979 are going to be opened :) 19:37:16 <Nego> be right back, reboot of my router is needed 19:37:19 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 19:37:29 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:05 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 19:39:08 <Nego> back 19:39:42 <glx> set server_advertise to true in openttd.cfg to advertise 19:40:02 <Nego> not needed, isn't going to be a public one 19:40:10 <Nego> atleast, not yet 19:40:18 <glx> ok 19:40:35 <glx> map size is in map_x and map_y 19:40:47 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-172-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:17 <Nego> map_x = 8 19:41:24 <Nego> ? 19:41:32 <glx> !calc 2^8 19:41:34 <_42_> glx: 256; 19:41:44 <Nego> ah sorry :) 19:42:02 <Nego> !calc 2^16 19:42:02 <_42_> Nego: 65536; 19:42:07 <Nego> ah bit large:P 19:42:11 <glx> max is 12 19:42:30 <glx> or 11 can't remember 19:42:37 <glx> !calc 2^11 19:42:38 <_42_> glx: 2048; 19:42:39 <Nego> 11;) 19:42:42 <Nego> I'll take 10 19:43:32 <glx> lanscape = normal|hilly|desert|candy <-- if you want to change it :) 19:43:47 <Nego> doesn't work, still says 256 19:44:25 <glx> did you save after the change? 19:44:52 <Nego> dunno 19:44:57 <Nego> going to try again 19:45:55 <Nego> currency = EURO 19:45:58 <Nego> is this right? 19:46:12 <glx> EUR 19:47:37 <glx> the difficulty settings are explained here http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Diff_custom 19:47:59 <Nego> ah thanks a lot 19:48:02 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-181-221.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:48:28 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 19:49:12 <glx> Nego: one important thing : language = english.lng 19:49:27 <Nego> I already have 19:52:27 <Nego> Online and in use 19:52:29 <Nego> thanks alot 19:52:40 <glx> np 19:52:58 <Prof_Frink> When did openTTD get so damn slow? 19:53:28 <hylje> it isnt? 19:53:50 <Prof_Frink> It bloody is 19:54:28 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 19:56:47 <Prof_Frink> It's not like it's using much in the way of CPU or memory, and my system's not exactly slow, but openttd runs like a pig through teacle 19:56:51 <Prof_Frink> treacle* 19:57:40 <Nego> how can i get FLAT land 19:57:52 <Prof_Frink> Use the land flattener 19:58:40 <glx> it's defined in diff_custom 19:59:05 <Nego> ok thnx 19:59:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:59:56 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:20 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 20:08:35 <Prof_Frink> Yup, TTDPatch in wine plays faster than openttd native. 20:10:04 <Prof_Frink> Interestingly, 0.4.7 also runs slowly 20:10:19 <Rubidium> what if you disable NPF? 20:11:40 <ln-> Tron: non-openttd-related question: in C, is the int value of "a < 2" defined to be (zero or non-zero), or (0 or 1)? 20:12:55 <Tron> the result of all comparison operations and boolean operators is either 0 or 1 20:13:56 <ln-> ok, thanks. 20:14:08 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:14:23 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: It *is* off 20:14:24 <Nego> is it possible that I cannot create SUBS in the autopilot? 20:14:49 <glx> SUBS? 20:15:13 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:15:17 <Nego> subsidiaries 20:15:36 <glx> dunno if they works in multiplayer 20:15:46 <Nego> ah ok 20:15:51 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 20:18:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:18:15 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:30:31 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@dslb-082-083-230-005.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 20:30:52 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:31:13 <Nego> is there anyone who knows how you can create new subs :) 20:33:10 <Rubidium> what version of OTTD are you using? 20:33:23 <Nego> where can I find it? 20:33:56 <Rubidium> in the titlebar 20:34:09 <Nego> nahh it does work 20:34:18 <Nego> but I want to make some subs in multiplayer 20:34:32 <Nego> you know if it is possible? 20:34:55 <glx> as I said I think it's disabled in multiplayer 20:35:00 <Rubidium> I've got no idea whether that is possible 20:35:12 <glx> Nego: miniin right ? 20:35:31 <Nego> how do you mean glx? 20:35:50 <glx> subsidiaries are only in miniin AFAIK 20:36:07 <Nego> you know for sure? 20:36:23 <glx> what's displayed in window title ? 20:37:18 <Nego> in the configuration patches it is still "on" 20:38:02 <Nego> but I can neither change it 20:40:01 <Nego> btw, can somebody tell me how I can solve this error 20:40:36 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-87.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:40:39 <Nego> MD5 of TRG1R.GFR is ***** Incorrect ***** File Corrupt 20:41:01 <Prof_Frink> try TRG1R.GRF instead. 20:41:29 <Prof_Frink> And use an unmodified version, and yell at the devs, and explain to them about .GRD graphics 20:42:03 <glx> why use .GRD when .GRF can do the same ? 20:42:31 <Prof_Frink> Because openttd used not support grf? 20:43:14 <Belugas> Nego, that error is not an error, as per say, but rather a warning. TheCRC checksum is not what it's supposed to be, as in the original game' version of the file. 20:43:21 <Belugas> So, no worry 20:43:34 <glx> Belugas: it's a md5 checksum not crc :) 20:43:46 <Belugas> me and my big mouth :) 20:43:53 <Belugas> true glx :) 20:43:59 <glx> but same meaning 20:44:16 <Nego> it happend when I started the multiplayer things 20:44:47 <glx> ho it display that in a console window, right? 20:45:07 <Belugas> does not have anything to do with multiplayer. It's the part that loads the cute graphics that make the game what it is :) 20:45:09 <Nego> yes 20:45:21 <Nego> is there a way to solve it 20:45:53 <Prof_Frink> Ignore it? redirect it to /dev/null? 20:45:57 <glx> Nego: convert.exe changed how openttd is run from explorer 20:46:15 <Nego> ah ok:) so just ignore it? 20:46:55 <glx> yes ignore it, it's not that important 20:47:18 <Belugas> or find an original unchanged trg1r.grf 20:47:18 <Nego> ah well ok 20:47:24 <Nego> didn't know that 20:47:31 <Nego> thnx 20:48:14 <Tron> This warning is a guarantee that your bug reports will be ignored as invalid 20:48:40 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust334.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 20:49:16 <jez> Tron: wtf?> 20:49:59 <Tron> do you have any problem with this? 20:50:22 <Nego> nope I don't 20:50:27 <jez> dont understand why you said that 20:50:28 <Nego> just didn't like an extra window 20:51:17 <Tron> jez: modified data files can lead to any kind of non-reproducible behavior 20:51:20 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Platinum Lachtan Bejby] 20:52:03 <glx> Nego: this extra window is a consequence of the patching needed for autopilot 20:52:28 <jez> Tron: ahhh, i think i understand 20:52:34 <jez> you meant *That* warning 20:52:42 <jez> English grammar and meaning 20:52:45 <jez> quite different 20:53:20 <jez> 'This warning' usually refers to what you're saying right now 20:53:26 <Bjarni> http://www.qdb.us/67325 <-- I just did my regular search for my own kick (I call it check if Sacro did something stupid again). They approved another one with my nick in it 20:53:50 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 20:54:29 <jez> your own kick? like, you kicked yourself? 20:54:50 <cantares> i think i am, writing a better english if i am drunk... 20:55:00 <cantares> was the last sentence understandable ? 20:55:13 <Bjarni> cantares: what you say? 20:55:15 <Bjarni> :) 20:55:17 <Bjarni> :P 20:55:18 <cantares> :D 20:55:30 <cantares> *bjarni hug* 20:55:34 <cantares> i like you, realy. 20:55:51 <Bjarni> err 20:56:32 <Bjarni> the last time somebody hugged me in #openttd, he wrote that he hurt himself falling off his chair in the next line 20:56:40 <Bjarni> it's dangerous to try to make me gay ;) 20:56:57 <cantares> why do you think that i am male ? 20:57:14 <Brianetta> Bjarni: Don't stand near this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bomb 20:57:22 <Bjarni> well, being in this channel makes the odds for that... say 99% 20:57:55 <cantares> WTF? 20:57:59 <lws1984> heehehheh 20:58:00 <lws1984> good one 20:58:01 <cantares> females dont play OpenTTD ? 20:58:15 <Brianetta> Helen doesn't seem to like it 20:58:28 <jez> with a name like Brianetta you sound female 20:58:32 <Brianetta> Well, she likes it, but always forgets absolutely everything about it between plays 20:58:34 <smeding> hm, people here :o 20:58:42 <Bjarni> <cantares> females dont play OpenTTD ? <-- I only know one female playing OpenTTD and she never went to this channel 20:58:48 <smeding> well, always are, but i feel like talking now 20:58:49 <cantares> ok, i am male... 20:58:58 <Bjarni> thought so 20:59:07 <cantares> ok, and i am bisexual... 20:59:12 <Bjarni> you can't trick me 20:59:23 * Brianetta is decidedly heterosexual 20:59:26 <Bjarni> <cantares> ok, and i am bisexual... <-- I noticed.... you wanted to do it with me 20:59:31 <Bjarni> and that will never happen 20:59:32 <cantares> BUT... What the hell hat hugging to do with sex ? 20:59:50 <jez> Bjarni: as part of my patch, I am redefining the facesel_d struct 20:59:52 <Bjarni> for all I know, you could be naked right now 20:59:54 <Brianetta> Hugging leads to kissing. Kissing leads to shagging. It's the way in films; it's the way in real life. 21:00:13 <jez> Bjarni: the member I'm removing is no longer used in the code, that should be ok, shouldn't it? 21:00:23 <jez> Brianetta: if only that were always true 21:00:31 <jez> actually no, i take that back 21:00:35 <jez> i'd have shagged my mum 21:00:47 <Brianetta> Except in films, they never seem to have to worry about condoms. 21:00:55 <Bjarni> jez: err, I think so. If you remove it an nothing bad happens, then it should be ok 21:01:26 <jez> Bjarni: you don't happen to know why these assert_compile() routines don't work, do you? 21:01:34 <Bjarni> <jez> i'd have shagged my mum <-- damn you little mother fucker 21:01:57 <cantares> jez: What has assert_compile() to do with sex ? o.o 21:02:00 <Bjarni> <jez> Bjarni: you don't happen to know why these assert_compile() routines don't work, do you? <-- most likely you disabled assert at compile time 21:02:09 <Bjarni> cantares: don't ask.... 21:02:14 <cantares> *lol* 21:02:20 <cantares> just kidding a little bit ;) 21:02:27 <Bjarni> don't ask questions where you don't want to know the answer 21:02:41 <cantares> i want to know every answer... 21:02:44 <jez> cantares: what does sex have to do with this channel? 21:02:44 <Bjarni> specially not on the internet 21:02:48 *** Spoco [~Spoco@dsl-083-102-066-38.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 21:03:16 <Bjarni> <jez> cantares: what does sex have to do with this channel? <-- it's mentioned each day 21:03:47 <cantares> jez: it is a general channel 'bout openttd... 21:04:14 <Bjarni> <Brianetta> Except in films, they never seem to have to worry about condoms. <-- actually I saw somebody wanted to change that and that they wanted all movies to use condoms... I don't think Hollywood cared for those people though 21:04:15 <cantares> jez: if it is a specialized developing channel i'ld agree, but not if it is a general 21:04:21 <smeding> hmm, my friend was basically the only reason i was still on the PC, and she left, so i'll be off too. later. 21:04:25 *** smeding [~roysmedin@c514451cb.cable.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:04:51 <jez> i don't watch films with sex in. not at the ciname 21:04:53 <jez> cinema 21:05:37 <Bjarni> I generally don't watch movies like that at all, not even at home when I'm alone 21:06:09 <Bjarni> quote "Sex is like football. It's as fun to do as it's boring to watch other people doing it" 21:06:20 <Bjarni> some politician said that 21:06:32 <Bjarni> in public 21:06:32 <jez> Clinton? 21:06:34 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:06:35 <Bjarni> no 21:06:38 <Bjarni> a Danish one 21:06:42 <jez> ah 21:07:35 <jez> struct Window {uint16 flags4; 21:07:39 <Bjarni> I can't remember who though, only that it was a female and she is red 21:07:39 <jez> why is that called flags4? 21:07:52 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:12 <Bjarni> jez: because... I guess it needed to be called something and this name was not in use 21:08:16 <Bjarni> so why not? :) 21:09:11 <Bjarni> DV renamed another var not long ago. It was called unKa and was actually the string/sprite for a widget (or was it the help text?) 21:09:20 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-213-190.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Quit: muss wech] 21:09:27 <Bjarni> I have no idea what the original name meant 21:09:34 <jez> hmm, i need to find the code that decides how long it is until a widget times out 21:09:44 <jez> and becomes declicked after a click 21:09:46 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: "Remove the small Ford car" 21:10:21 <Bjarni> times out? 21:10:34 <Bjarni> I think it's event based, not time based 21:10:40 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: ? 21:10:47 <Prof_Frink> unKa. 21:11:07 <Bjarni> ahh 21:11:19 <Bjarni> but why would it be called something like that? 21:11:44 <Bjarni> and why is the 3rd letter uppercase while the rest was lowercase? 21:11:45 <Prof_Frink> That is one of the great mysteries of the universe 21:11:52 <Bjarni> we will never know 21:11:56 <Prof_Frink> It's camelCase 21:12:15 <jez> Bjarni: clearly there is a time factor 21:12:23 <jez> when you click a button, it waits for a while until becoming unclicked 21:13:05 <Bjarni> like until it's redrawn? 21:13:48 <Rubidium> jez: look for WDF_UNCLICK_BUTTONS in window.c 21:13:58 <glx> Bjarni: unknownA 21:14:14 <glx> or something like that 21:20:58 *** e1ko [~e1ko@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:22:23 <jez> Rubidium: seems it waits 21:22:47 <jez> Rubidium: seems it looks at the least significant 3 bits in w->flags4 to determine how long before the timeout 21:23:04 <jez> but what determines how long each loop lasts? this is just my being over-curious now :-) 21:24:39 <Bjarni> great 21:25:42 <Bjarni> I just spent the last half an hour figuring out what I did to break my patch and now I just learned that I typoed a > into < 21:25:46 <Bjarni> one char 21:25:58 <Bjarni> and hell broke loose and it asserted like crazy 21:27:17 <jez> at least your asserts work 21:27:22 <jez> the ones i'm looking at don't 21:27:47 <Rubidium> jez: DecreaseWindowCounters is called every gameloop, i.e. every game tick, so it takes 7 game ticks 21:28:44 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC5BD0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:29:01 <Rubidium> jez: you could have found that out by backtracing the function calls 21:31:08 <jez> 7 ticks? 21:31:16 <Bjarni> lol. I just notice the AI building a railroad and it finished it, but then it removed some tracks and had to add like 6 tiles of hills to it and make it at least 4 times as long as the part it removed 21:31:24 <jez> only if 7 gets set 21:31:43 <Bjarni> jez: asserts are disabled by default in MS VS release builds 21:32:35 <Maedhros> Bjarni: trains with "Service at ..." orders show up with the wrong string (i.e. the orange one) in the train status bar 21:32:42 <Maedhros> i've been told to take that one up with you ;) 21:33:11 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:33:22 <jez> Bjarni: i'm making a debug build, though 21:33:46 <Bjarni> http://devs.openttd.org/~bjarni/AI_dual_station.png <-- LOL 21:35:33 <Bjarni> Maedhros: err... they look allright here 21:35:58 <jez> what is a 'service at; order 21:36:04 <jez> do you mean 'go to depot'? 21:36:52 <Bjarni> hmm, nobody commented on the "clever" AI placement of stations... two stations next to each other and both blocked from being connected to anything 21:39:12 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has joined #openttd 21:39:25 <Bjarni> jez: control click goto depot 21:39:40 <Bjarni> the vehicle will service only and then leave the depot right away 21:40:12 <Nego> I got a question about autopilot 21:40:12 <Maedhros> Bjarni: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/service_orders.png 21:40:18 <Maedhros> shouldn't they both show the same string? 21:40:20 <Nego> how can I shut down the server 21:40:26 <Nego> and return to the game next time :) 21:40:51 <XeryusTC> i have a question regarding the SB macro as found in macros.h, is someone with that understands it around? 21:41:27 <Tron> the comment is one line above it 21:41:38 <XeryusTC> Tron: the comment isnt helping me 21:41:39 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C481.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:41:47 <Bjarni> Maedhros: you are right 21:41:48 <Bjarni> hmm 21:42:03 <Bjarni> they should 21:42:09 <Tron> then you should stop asking meta quetsions and start asking questions 21:42:09 <Bjarni> the orange one is incorrect 21:42:33 <XeryusTC> i do understand what the function does, but it seems that the n parameter doesn't do a thing 21:42:40 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:43:09 <XeryusTC> so is n supose do do nothing, only do something in special occasions or is it just some legacy from copy-pasting? 21:43:20 <Tron> it zeroes this many bits 21:43:33 <Tron> without it the macro would be totally broken 21:43:57 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:44:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host117-234-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:44:18 <Tron> btw: it's not c&ped, i wrote it 21:44:36 <Nego> somebody who can help?? 21:44:39 <XeryusTC> hmm, i ran some tests with it, it didn't matter if i set it from 0-4 if all the other parameters stayed the same 21:44:53 <Tron> your tests are flawed 21:45:38 <Tron> uint32 x = 0xFFFFFFFF; 21:46:10 <Tron> SB(x, 4, 4, 0); or SB(x, 4, 0, 0); 21:46:23 <Tron> printf("%u\n", x); 21:46:52 <Nego> Can I shut down the Multiplayer Server and reopen it afterwards?? 21:47:52 <XeryusTC> Tron: so according to you it should set 4 bits to 0 in the former form and leave bits to 1 in the latter? 21:48:35 <Tron> yes 21:48:52 <XeryusTC> ok, ty for explaining :) 21:49:33 <glx> Nego: type "exit" and it shoud save (to be sure you can type "save name_of_savegame" before) 21:49:38 <XeryusTC> i can sleep peacifully now, ty :) 21:49:49 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish] 21:50:23 <Nego> GLX 21:50:23 <glx> Nego: to start autopilot with the savegame use "tclsh autopilot.tcl load name_of_savegame" 21:50:34 <Nego> ok thnx 21:56:06 *** blackis [~blackis@bebis.csbnet.se] has quit [Quit: blackis] 21:56:24 <Maedhros> night 21:56:28 *** Nego [~DJNego@cp510420-a.venlo1.lb.home.nl] has quit [] 21:56:54 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:05:21 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:23:49 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-157-244.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:37:34 *** reinke [~reinke@80.64.180.85] has joined #openttd 22:38:04 *** reinke [~reinke@80.64.180.85] has quit [] 22:40:36 *** reinke_ [~reinke@80.64.180.85] has joined #openttd 22:40:53 <reinke_> hello there, someone awake? 22:40:53 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has joined #openttd 22:41:13 <reinke_> hello, i have a question concerning sample.cat 22:41:13 <Sacro> reinke_: yeah 22:41:35 <reinke_> hello! 22:42:35 <reinke_> the thing is, although i copied the necessary files into the directory which is given in the wiki, ubuntu says that i cannot open it (all read/write rights are given) 22:42:52 <reinke_> what have i done wrong? 22:42:58 <reinke_> i dont get it... 22:43:06 *** ThePizzaKing [~thepizzak@c211-28-157-212.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:43:50 <ln-> where did you buy the game from? 22:44:27 <reinke_> it was in a bundle of games which i was given some years ago... 22:44:35 <reinke_> actually it was a present 22:45:41 <ln-> ok 22:46:07 <Sacro> reinke_: which folder did you put sample.cat in? 22:46:22 <reinke_> /usr/share/games/openttd/data 22:46:43 <reinke_> the folder which is said in the openttd wiki 22:47:12 <Sacro> hmm 22:47:24 <Sacro> ls /usr/share/games/openttd/data/* 22:47:30 <Sacro> ls -l even 22:47:39 <reinke_> wait a sec... 22:48:01 <Sacro> hmm, i have it under /usr/share/openttd/data 22:48:48 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53588af9.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51:00 <reinke_> insgesamt 5852 22:51:01 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9747 2006-08-14 17:10 autorail.grf 22:51:01 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41639 2006-08-14 17:10 canalsw.grf 22:51:01 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 90 2006-08-14 17:10 dosdummy.grf 22:51:01 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 50012 2006-08-14 17:10 nsignalsw.grf 22:51:03 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25704 2006-08-14 17:10 openttd.grf 22:51:06 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 138680 2006-08-14 17:10 opntitle.dat 22:51:08 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 1606806 1995-10-11 14:25 SAMPLE.CAT 22:51:11 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 2426283 1996-02-08 20:54 TRG1.GRF 22:51:13 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 267257 1995-10-11 14:25 TRGC.GRF 22:51:16 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 410573 1996-02-11 18:53 TRGH.GRF 22:51:18 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 293058 1996-02-08 20:54 TRGI.GRF 22:51:21 <reinke_> -rw------- 1 reinke reinke 559087 1995-10-11 14:25 TRGT.GRF 22:51:23 <Born_Acorn> What's happening! D: 22:51:23 <reinke_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 91558 2006-08-14 17:10 trkfoundw.g 22:51:26 * Eddi|zuHause slaps reinke_ around with a nopaste 22:51:42 <reinke_> ah, sorry, irc noob :) 22:52:03 <Eddi|zuHause> there are lots of pages around where you can post text to 22:52:10 <Eddi|zuHause> and then give a link here... 22:52:49 <Eddi|zuHause> for example http://nopaste.php-q.net/ 22:53:08 <glx> shouldn't be lower case ? 22:54:17 <reinke_> ok, i just said sorry...like i said i AM an irc noob...sooo the thing i did now is that i have given sample.cat all rights (as proven by ln -l which i dont copy here now ;) but "openttd" still says cant open file 22:54:47 <Eddi|zuHause> rename the files to lowercase... 22:55:11 <Eddi|zuHause> -rwxr-xr-x 1 johannes users 1608618 1996-03-22 14:15 sample.cat <- this is mine 22:55:44 <reinke_> ah, k, wait 22:56:02 <Eddi|zuHause> why they are x i don't know 22:56:24 <Eddi|zuHause> they probably shouldn't be 22:56:26 <ln-> it should definitely be lower case. 22:56:40 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: x is not needed but it's not a problem :) 22:57:05 <Eddi|zuHause> sure, if i want to run them :p 22:57:23 <glx> chmod 644 should fix it :) 22:57:52 <reinke_> ok, the game runs now...thanks for the hint :) But the window is kindo transparent now ?! How can i change that? 22:58:09 <glx> the window is transparent ???? 22:58:31 <Eddi|zuHause> must be some other program that you run 22:58:51 <Eddi|zuHause> i have seen that before, but i don't remember what program it was 22:59:10 <glx> X :P 22:59:11 <Sacro> could be XGL 22:59:33 <reinke_> yupp, i am running xgl and compiz atm 22:59:50 <reinke_> i kinda like the eyecandy stuff 22:59:52 <Sacro> that'd explain the transparency 23:00:06 <reinke_> ok, then i'll switch it off :) 23:01:11 <glx> now I bet newt question will be about music :) 23:01:30 <Eddi|zuHause> those x-es are probably a relict from copying from windows... 23:01:56 <glx> yes copy from FAT32 23:02:06 <Eddi|zuHause> no, NTFS ;) 23:02:13 <glx> same thing :) 23:04:35 <reinke_> nope, no music question...these midis can drive me crazy... 23:04:56 <glx> anyway you are using DOS files so no music :) 23:05:17 <Eddi|zuHause> DOS didn't have .gm files? 23:05:23 <reinke_> thanks for all the help...and sorry for disturbing you...but ill guess you guys have never been newbies...haven't ya? 23:05:26 <Eddi|zuHause> what did DOS use? 23:05:47 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: FAT 12 23:05:47 <ln-> no, we materialized to this world as professionals. 23:05:51 <Sacro> then 16, then 32 23:06:04 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause: guessing you mean MS-DOS... 23:06:11 <reinke_> thought so ;) anyway, thanks a lot and for all the fish 23:06:18 <Sacro> mmm, fish 23:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause> i have never seen a DOS using FAT 32... but that was hardly my question 23:06:23 <glx> Sacro: we are talking about TTD DOS and music :) 23:06:34 <Sacro> todays fish is trout a la creme, enjoy your meal 23:06:39 *** reinke_ [~reinke@80.64.180.85] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:06:43 <Sacro> glx: TTD DOS? sounds fun 23:07:27 <Born_Acorn> Yeah, you know, the version 80% of new players have. 23:07:41 <Born_Acorn> (until they find the download links for the Windows Version, at least. :p ) 23:07:47 *** Serriaromeo [~Serriarom@mptc-69-152.mptelco.com] has quit [] 23:16:41 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure if i ever had a DOS TTD 23:17:07 *** grimrc [~grimrc@spc3-stkp5-0-0-cust362.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: cya] 23:22:19 *** Progman [~progman@p5091FCA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:32:11 *** Ben_123 [~Ben_Robbi@82.152.204.219] has joined #openttd 23:36:28 *** Ben_123 [~Ben_Robbi@82.152.204.219] has quit [] 23:38:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 23:53:15 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd