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00:00:00 <lolman> Sacro, what connnection are you on? 00:00:04 <lolman> -n 00:00:09 <Sacro> lolman: 1MB :( 00:00:15 <lolman> :( 00:00:19 <lolman> That sucks 00:00:25 <tormentum> lol, a bit of a lag spike on that 10mbit eh lolman? 00:00:28 <glx> hehe up to 24MB here 00:00:43 <glx> but I can't reach more than 4MB 00:00:45 <lolman> Nah tormentum, just took my time replying 00:00:48 <lolman> glx, hehe 00:00:53 <tormentum> haha 00:01:00 <Sacro> hey glx 00:01:01 <tormentum> 1.5Mbit ADSL here... 00:01:08 <tormentum> cant wait for cable when i get to canada 00:01:20 <lolman> Cable here...guaranteed 10Mb :P 00:01:36 <tormentum> what about upload? 00:01:40 <lolman> 512k :( 00:01:43 <glx> 1MB 00:01:52 <tormentum> 256k :( 00:02:00 <tormentum> australian DSL sucks 00:02:10 <lolman> UK Cable sucks 00:02:20 <lolman> (Upload wise) 00:03:11 <tormentum> wow, the latest sandbox game has ended... time for a new one 00:03:42 * lolman isn't good enough to play online :P 00:05:01 <tormentum> lol 00:05:10 <tormentum> download the latest save... it's awesome! 00:05:20 <lolman> Nah lol 00:07:07 * Sacro yawns 00:07:42 <lolman> tired? 00:07:54 <Sacro> yup 00:08:43 <iMonkey> Better than mine. 00:11:49 <lolman> lol 00:12:20 <iMonkey> Yay, my internet cut out mid-svn-update, and it apparently dosn't respond to CTRL+C >_> 00:13:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 00:15:31 <lolman> Brianetta, ello :) 00:16:54 *** iMonkey_ [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 00:16:57 <Brianetta> (: 00:21:05 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:22:21 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498E10D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:23:04 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498E10D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:17 *** iMonkey [~panda@c-24-18-216-187.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:25:15 <lolman> Much quieter in here than it was when I used to come in :P 00:26:31 * lws1984 throws a dart at the wall 00:26:36 <lws1984> it is pretty quiet lately 00:27:01 <lolman> Probably less excitement about releases etc lol 00:27:57 <izhirahider> they're up to something 00:28:13 <lolman> No doubt 00:32:28 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:33:18 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 00:37:07 <Sacro> night all 00:37:19 <lolman> Night 00:37:44 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-213-249-245-53.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42:37 <tormentum> time for more of my c++ lessons 00:44:19 <lolman> lol I never got round to starting 00:44:33 <lolman> To learn C++ that is 00:47:40 <tormentum> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Image:SandBoxGame7.png << woah 00:47:51 <tormentum> true... but i've been wanting to learn it for ages now 00:48:06 <tormentum> i know c and c#... may aswell learn the bridger :P 00:48:17 <lolman> lol 00:48:25 <lolman> I know none of the 3 00:48:56 <tormentum> do much coding? or mainly gaming? hehe 00:49:05 <lolman> Gaming lol 00:49:15 <lolman> I want to learn how to code though 00:50:32 <tormentum> mm, i've been coding a SimFarm clone for a few months now in c, but theres some code i wanna look at thats in c++ 00:50:44 <tormentum> pretty complex stuff too, so i decided to bite the bullet learn it :) 00:50:50 <lolman> Aha 00:51:43 <lolman> I'm learning the basics of VB (crap I know) for my A Level Computing 00:52:39 <tormentum> hehe VB nearly got me expelled in highschool 00:52:48 <lolman> How? 00:53:15 <tormentum> i made a clone of the Novell login client which would popup at a random inverval when it detected netscape running (ranging from 30 seconds to 30 minutes) 00:53:22 <lolman> lolol 00:53:29 <tormentum> it would claim that it had lost the connection to the server and could the user re-login 00:53:43 <tormentum> i installed it on all the compters in the library 00:53:46 <tormentum> was awesome! 00:53:52 <lolman> Hehehe 00:54:08 <tormentum> had a network server to collect unsuspecting n00bs and the like 00:54:29 <tormentum> i made one dastardly oversight though... i spelt Novell wrong 00:54:32 <tormentum> i spelt it Novel 00:54:33 <tormentum> lol 00:54:34 <lolman> How did you get off? 00:54:49 <tormentum> some guy waited around and caught me downloading the info off the server 00:54:58 <tormentum> i was an a grade student 00:55:02 <lolman> Aha 00:55:03 <tormentum> got away with a double major detention 00:55:14 <lolman> Lucky... 00:55:24 <tormentum> but they went all out on the threats and scare tactics... they looked over my list of collected passwords... 00:55:30 *** Ben_123 [~Ben@82.152.216.53] has joined #openttd 00:55:36 <tormentum> admins, librarians, HEADMASTER 00:55:41 <lolman> :O 00:55:48 <tormentum> ahh, those were the days :) 01:04:12 *** Ben_123 [~Ben@82.152.216.53] has left #openttd [Leaving] 01:11:02 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:11:36 *** robobot [~supybot@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 01:11:51 <robobot> robobot has joined on Quakenet 01:13:54 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-206-178.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:15:43 *** robobot [~supybot@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 01:25:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 01:25:57 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:47:08 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 01:48:13 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-236-161-153.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:00 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:54:11 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-236-161-153.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 02:04:40 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:30:38 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76DD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:37:07 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76DE0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:08 *** meros [~meros@41.80-202-197.nextgentel.com] has quit [] 02:39:16 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 02:39:47 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 02:46:00 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-236-161-153.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:24 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-60-228-44-63.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]] 03:31:06 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:35:40 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-115-74.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:46 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-45-196.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:45:33 *** dp-_ [~dp@p54B2FC92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:50:11 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:52:31 *** dp- [~dp@p54B2FD8F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:44 <The6thCommandment> hey, Darkvater... 04:13:23 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:18:48 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-072-180-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:19:08 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-072-180-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 04:20:35 *** The6thCommandment [~the6thcom@220-245-124-142-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #openttd [] 04:41:29 *** DannyA [~danny.ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:57:11 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:36:13 *** DannyA [~danny.ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 05:46:28 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 05:50:46 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:05:44 *** iMonkey_ [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 06:26:33 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:29:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-149-18.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:29:32 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 06:49:33 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:48 *** DannyA [~danny.ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:00:31 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:03:29 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 07:03:48 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:04:35 *** DannyA [~danny.ale@CPE-124-178-95-126.wa.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 07:15:17 *** lolman is now known as lolman|SixthForm 07:21:09 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:22:56 <mikk36> uhm 07:23:00 <mikk36> only 3 ops left ? 07:28:03 <Rubidium> why would that be a problem? 07:29:29 <Rubidium> chanserv can op people who want to and are allowed to have ops 07:31:24 <tormentum> what are the rules that dictate that/ 07:34:20 <Rubidium> first part by requesting ops via pm with chanserv, second by a ACL I guess 07:36:29 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c18041.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:49:18 <peter1138> probably being a dev helps 07:52:09 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 08:11:51 <blathijs> On Freenode, we usually had no devs, since Freenode policy is to only requist ops from chanserv when you actually need id (IIRC) 08:20:02 *** ufoun [~ty@b07-305a.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 08:21:37 <STE1N> yea, why aren't you on freenode? 08:23:37 <Prof_Frink> 'cause someone decided to move 08:32:35 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 08:42:24 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 08:42:26 <Gorre> morning. 08:49:53 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r7236 /trunk/variables.h: -Codechange: remove unused global array _newgrf_files 08:52:20 *** Nigel_ [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:57:43 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 08:58:03 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CC1B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:09:00 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:10 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:12:48 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 09:26:34 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:32:30 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: /quit] 09:37:26 <Darkvater> morning 09:37:52 <Tron> yep, definatly morning here 09:39:47 <peter1138> indeed 09:41:22 <Darkvater> second that 09:41:31 <Darkvater> ok, look what I wipped up over night 09:41:51 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/vehicle_list_wip.png 09:42:10 <Darkvater> mind you that this took me over an hour to code ingame and it's still not really working 09:42:13 <Darkvater> bjarni-code :s 09:42:29 <peter1138> bjarni'd 09:42:52 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-130-163.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 09:42:55 <Darkvater> well, besides that. This is what I had in mind for the GUI to look like 09:42:59 <Darkvater> donnu how others feel about it 09:43:43 <peter1138> better, though i dunno about the text "- Choose action -" 09:44:12 <Darkvater> yes, that is a good question which I also had 09:44:19 <Darkvater> I could leave it empty, but that would look wrong 09:44:28 <peter1138> empty is wrong, yes 09:44:30 <Darkvater> and having the last action there seems also a bit strange 09:44:41 <peter1138> indeed 09:44:42 <TheMask96> if you select 'send to depot' will all trains immediately go to the depots? cause that would be catastrofical when you click wrong in the dropdown :) 09:44:51 <Darkvater> TheMask96: yes 09:44:57 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-70.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 09:45:01 <peter1138> Perform action... 09:45:03 <peter1138> maybe 09:45:09 <peter1138> TheMask96: correct 09:45:10 <Darkvater> that is why I had the brilliant idea over night to flip the two. have replace first depot second 09:45:26 <Darkvater> TheMask96: but 'tis no different from clicking the current button 'accidentally' 09:45:45 <Darkvater> peter1138: so you think there would be needed some caption there, some general one? 09:45:49 <peter1138> which is easy to do, when you're expecting it to show new vehicles... 09:46:03 <TheMask96> true... but clicking a button accidently happends less often then clicking wrong in a dropdown list I think.. 09:46:19 <peter1138> i don't think so 09:46:40 <Darkvater> it's actually more work, you have to 1. click, 2. hold mouse and move 3. release mouse 09:46:46 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:46:55 <Darkvater> it requires a complicated hand-eye combination and refined motorics 09:49:36 <TheMask96> yep.. but I think it happends more often that releasing the mouse button sometimes happends maybe a few pixels in the wrong direction... 09:50:03 <Darkvater> happends? 09:50:13 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #openttd 09:50:14 <TheMask96> a button sounds more save in my opinion 09:50:46 <Darkvater> 3 buttons don't fit 09:51:11 <Darkvater> I have only ever misclicked a dropdown when openttd was using 100% cpu and thus having a hard time controlling the mouse 09:51:19 <Darkvater> but then the game already is unplayable 09:51:31 <TheMask96> hmm ok 09:51:37 <TheMask96> we will see then :) 09:52:03 <TheMask96> but I think some people will ask for some safety message like 'Are you really sure?' 09:58:25 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-70.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:01:25 *** valhallasw is now known as valhallasw`18 10:06:27 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-134-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:25 <SpComb> names 10:21:23 * blathijs hands SpComb a / 10:27:10 <SpComb> indeed 10:41:20 <roboboy> gnight 10:41:23 * roboboy folds out the bed and locks it into position. 10:41:28 *** roboboy is now known as robobed 10:47:21 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498E10D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:49:09 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@pD9E955BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:50:01 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498DF31.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:51:11 <Dr_Jekyll> i've installed my original TT (with world editor) but openTTD won't accept the install path for looking for the game gfx 10:51:27 <Dr_Jekyll> isn't my version the TTD version? 10:51:51 <peter1138> well, no 10:51:54 <peter1138> TT isn't TTD 10:52:15 <Dr_Jekyll> hm i thougt TTD is TT with the editor... 10:52:23 <peter1138> nope 10:53:37 <Dr_Jekyll> iss there a possibility to use openTTD with my old version? 10:53:51 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-163-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:18 <Darkvater> Dr_Jekyll: no, openttd is only for TTD 10:54:25 <Darkvater> either windows or dos version 10:55:10 <peter1138> who here can speak/write russian? 10:56:37 <Dr_Jekyll> grml 10:57:33 <Dr_Jekyll> what may i do now? is there an update or something like this to upgrade TT to TTD? 10:58:31 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-134-227.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:58:31 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 10:58:43 <Darkvater> TT is different from TTD and there is no way to 'uprade' 11:00:33 <Dr_Jekyll> what about the copyrights, may i use openTTD when i copy the gfx 'by hand' (if the gfx are in my version, i don't know) 11:00:33 *** robobed [~Leo@c211-30-116-5.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:02:03 <peter1138> it's a different game 11:02:27 <Darkvater> Dr_Jekyll: think of it in terms of Diablo1 and Diablo2. Totally incompatible 11:07:54 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:09:17 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:09:17 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 11:15:13 * peter1138 wastes away 11:16:42 <Darkvater> that does not sound too good 11:17:31 <peter1138> i'm starving 11:20:24 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 11:24:13 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 11:28:50 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-45-196.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:33:35 <Rexxie> I get a link error when I try to compile OTTD, says it can't find LIBC.lib... 11:34:12 <Rexxie> This has worked fine before, it failed to work after the UTF-8 branch merged. 11:34:26 <Rexxie> I'm using Visual Studio 2005 on Windows XP, if that's any help. 11:34:43 <Rubidium> what revision do you have? 11:35:30 <Rexxie> I just updated to the latest 11:35:36 <Rubidium> and have do you have the latest 'openttd-useful.zip' as that zip has been updated fairly recently. 11:35:54 <Rexxie> as, I didn't know that 11:36:03 <Rexxie> I'll give that a shot :) 11:39:06 <Rexxie> hmm, the last openttd-useful.zip I can find is updated in 2004... 11:39:14 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:40:07 <Rubidium> hmm 11:40:56 <Rubidium> Rexxie: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=103924&package_id=114307 11:41:18 <Rexxie> ah, many thanks 11:42:14 <Rexxie> someone should update the link on dev.php :) 11:43:12 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-47.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:56:54 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-113-142.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:59:55 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC78AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:02:41 *** Buibo [otus@t80.ip5.netikka.fi] has joined #openttd 12:06:36 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:13:19 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has joined #openttd 12:43:05 *** Dr_Jekyll [Dr_Jekyll@pD9E955BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 12:54:29 <Darkvater> so have you been revived peter1138 ? 12:55:11 <Darkvater> Rexxie: the correct link is on the wiki, but I'll update the website as well 12:56:00 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: see, it was a good thing not to ignore LIBC :) 13:06:58 <Darkvater> website updated 13:16:05 <peter1138> just bought lunch ,heh 13:25:26 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:38:13 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:50:00 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-065-114.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 13:50:37 * HMage is having a _very_very_ late breakfast 13:51:34 * Darkvater looks at clock 13:51:35 <Darkvater> 3PM 13:52:14 * peter1138 remembers he uploaded "the patch" 13:53:33 <Darkvater> THE patch ;) 13:54:25 <peter1138> hmm, why isn't VS starting... 13:54:51 * peter1138 does it manually 13:55:46 <Darkvater> :O it's broken 13:56:07 <Darkvater> ever since I installed a SP for VS2005 it screws up the watch/debug/call panels at the bottom 13:56:20 <peter1138> damn that dmksctrl.h 13:56:23 <peter1138> what's that in? 13:57:45 <peter1138> oh, music gubbins 13:58:27 * peter1138 disables 13:59:16 <peter1138> hmm, dxguid.lib 14:00:18 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:04:43 * peter1138 gives up 14:05:05 <Darkvater> he, dx not working? :) 14:05:37 <peter1138> apparently so 14:06:02 <Darkvater> he, what'd you do? 14:06:10 <peter1138> tried to use it, i guess 14:06:18 <Darkvater> I can send you my DX folders when i'm at home 14:06:19 <peter1138> normally i use gcc on another machine 14:06:43 <Darkvater> ~1 or 2 MB 14:07:42 <Darkvater> so what is THEis patch we're talking about? 14:08:01 <peter1138> newgrf saveload 14:08:32 <peter1138> hmm 14:08:40 <peter1138> should i bump the saveload version? 14:09:02 <Darkvater> not necessary as it's a new chunk but I think it should 14:09:15 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:17 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7237 /trunk/ (genworld.c genworld.h tgp.c): -Fix: TGP landscape generation could leak memory if aborted during the generation of the heightmap. 14:18:08 <Darkvater> so eh peter1138 where is this patch :) 14:18:15 <Darkvater> or is it without GUI? 14:21:19 <CIA-1> tron * r7238 /trunk/lang/ (30 files in 2 dirs): Remove two unused strings 14:25:05 <peter1138> it's without gui 14:25:10 <peter1138> it's just the saveload stuff 14:25:48 <Darkvater> ah 14:26:02 <peter1138> hello tron 14:26:32 <peter1138> i'm going to have to do a full recompile now ;( 14:27:24 <Tron> this is technically incorrect 14:27:33 <Tron> not all files depend on table/strings.h 14:28:15 <Tron> only 79 do 14:30:03 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:31:27 <Darkvater> o_O 14:31:34 <Darkvater> we forgot to poolerize name-arrays 14:32:17 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/ 24,67 All 14:32:20 <Darkvater> hmm 14:32:40 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/0.5.0_todo.txt #36 14:33:54 <Tron> this doesn't help that much 14:33:57 <peter1138> i volunteered for it 14:34:01 <peter1138> but i wasn't going to pool them 14:34:15 <Tron> then the limit is 1048 14:34:16 <peter1138> just increase the limit from 512 to 2048 14:34:19 <Tron> s/1048/2048/ 14:34:26 <peter1138> do you need more names than that? heh 14:34:30 <peter1138> hmm 14:34:48 <Darkvater> what's wrong with poolerize? 14:36:01 <Tron> i think the whole concept is broken 14:36:30 <Tron> towns for example should have a plain string as name, period 14:36:35 <Darkvater> well besides the concept of its implementation, making it dynamic is a good thing 14:36:52 <Tron> Darkvater: no, abandoning the whole concept is a Good Thing(tm) 14:37:03 <peter1138> hmm, direct stringyness 14:37:04 <Darkvater> you mean name_array no? 14:37:11 <Tron> yes 14:37:19 <Tron> static translations should stay as they are 14:37:39 <Tron> atm you can't change the name generation algo for townsb 14:37:55 <Tron> because all games using this name scheme will be immediatly semi-broken 14:38:07 <Tron> because suddenly duplicate names could exist 14:38:41 <Tron> so it should just be a plain string 14:38:59 <Tron> and if it's a plain string anyway, no need for some magic name list IDs for custom names is needed, either 14:39:42 <Darkvater> hmm, but then you end up with more logic higher up? 14:40:02 <Darkvater> eg you couldn't just do drawstring(v->name) because it can be a char* or a StirngID 14:40:42 <Tron> towns is just an example 14:41:09 <Tron> no "named" thing should use IDs 14:41:12 <peter1138> you'd need more logic, yes 14:41:32 <peter1138> unless you use DoDrawString, heh 14:41:58 <Tron> of course you call a text drawing function which takes a char* 14:42:14 <Tron> not temporarily wrap it into an id or something stupid like that 14:42:18 <peter1138> or use the lovely SetDParamStr() 14:43:09 <Darkvater> so you mean that everything with a name is a char* 14:43:25 <Darkvater> eg all automatic vehicle-names, factory-names, towns, station-names, etc.? 14:43:51 <Tron> factories have no name in this sense 14:44:07 <peter1138> heh 14:44:28 <peter1138> i'd rather not go back to that 14:44:36 <peter1138> vehicle names did used to be char* 14:44:45 <Darkvater> they did? 14:44:50 <peter1138> (for newgrf vehicles, anyway) 14:44:51 <peter1138> yes 14:44:59 <peter1138> it only supported english 14:45:26 <peter1138> first version of stations used char* too 14:45:41 <peter1138> that only supported english too 14:45:55 <peter1138> and the dropdown menu was "fun" 14:46:08 <peter1138> name_array's a bit different though 14:46:09 * Gorre has returned, [gone/52m 26s] 14:46:16 <peter1138> because there're no translations for that 14:47:16 <Tron> not vehicle type names, but vehicle names 14:47:36 <peter1138> ah 14:47:42 <peter1138> of course 14:47:54 <Darkvater> so the proposal is to store everything in char* which you can rename yourself? 14:48:09 <Darkvater> I wonder how that is going to work out with 'rename engine' 14:48:15 <peter1138> instead of using name_array 14:48:23 <Tron> Darkvater: this doesn't work anyway 14:48:25 <peter1138> Darkvater: well, your string saving changes will support it now ;) 14:49:16 <Darkvater> it doesn't? Well if it did 14:49:41 <Tron> drop it 14:50:02 <Tron> it's a misfeature 14:50:06 <peter1138> renaming vehicle types is... yes 14:50:27 <peter1138> and the whole load/save feature for that which was never implemented 14:52:47 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 14:54:12 <peter1138> ok 14:54:18 <peter1138> so shall i do that? heh 14:55:00 <peter1138> well, at least try it 14:55:05 <Darkvater> ok, just up it to 2K then and then we can decide later about what to change it to 14:55:16 <Tron> i don't think it should be done right now 14:55:20 <Darkvater> unless of course someone has lotsa time to do it properly 14:55:29 <peter1138> not pre-0.5, no 14:55:35 <Darkvater> already a *lot* of people complain they run out of custom names 14:55:50 <peter1138> damn those 2048x2048 custom named scenarios 14:56:19 <Tron> peter1138: well, i could increase the memory consumption by factor 20 14:56:25 <Tron> that would solve the problem for some time 14:56:38 <peter1138> hmm? 14:56:49 * Tron starts copying Simutrans source code 14:56:52 <Darkvater> :) 14:57:04 <peter1138> :P 14:57:21 <hylje> :o 14:57:26 <hylje> wonders of gpl? 14:57:28 <Darkvater> we should not undertake this whole thing pre-0.5, right? We should do something about the size, right? 14:57:33 <peter1138> simutrans is not gpl 14:57:38 <hylje> k 14:57:56 <Tron> i wouldn't do anything before 0.5 14:58:00 <Tron> get the bugs fixed 14:58:03 <Tron> and release it 14:58:20 <Tron> any other change just has good chances of introducing more bugs 14:58:24 <Darkvater> we need more names imho 14:58:39 <Darkvater> simply upping 512 > 1024/2048 will not add more bugs 14:58:48 <Tron> are you sure? 14:58:56 <Darkvater> 95% 14:59:01 <peter1138> you need to increase the limit 14:59:04 <Tron> that's 5% short 14:59:12 <peter1138> then you need to loop through everything that contains a string id 14:59:19 <peter1138> and limit it to the first 512 14:59:27 <Darkvater> .. 14:59:28 <Tron> actually i would say it's about 55% short 14:59:35 <Tron> 50% safety margin 14:59:56 <peter1138> Darkvater: there's a "skip" parameter that appears to be totally useless 15:00:12 <peter1138> however, it means string ids are already in the 0-2048 range 15:00:18 <peter1138> just it loops at 512 15:00:35 <peter1138> (well, masks the upper bits off) 15:00:48 <Tron> OTTD has an A20 gate! 15:01:02 <peter1138> heh 15:01:15 <hylje> http://bash.org/?707848 15:01:42 <Darkvater> well fine if we don't want limit-increase, then we don't 15:01:49 <Darkvater> we can always do it for 0.5.1 15:01:56 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 15:02:13 <peter1138> Darkvater: i'm just saying it's a bit more than just upping the limit 15:03:25 * peter1138 wonders how many arrays need to be scanned for custom string ids 15:03:40 <peter1138> might be easier to postpone it and do it tron's way 15:04:51 <Darkvater> fine 15:05:58 <peter1138> well one savegame mess around instead of two 15:10:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E2ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:10:51 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:14:29 <Darkvater> we have another issue to take care of: windows nightly builds 15:14:33 <Darkvater> !seen weirdo 15:14:34 <_42_> Darkvater, Weirdo (~truelight@145.118.72.134) was last seen quitting #openttd.tgp 17 hours 51 minutes ago (21.11. 21:23) stating "Quit: night" after spending 2 hours 19 minutes there. 15:14:42 <Darkvater> hmm 15:17:39 <Zevensoft> is manhattan distance used for cargo payments? 15:20:55 <peter1138> still this yapf thing, yes? 15:22:01 <KUDr_wrk> one revert would solve it easily.. 15:22:25 <peter1138> no, it should work ;p 15:22:39 <Darkvater> it should not be the solution 15:23:51 <KUDr_wrk> not solution just workaround for win32 nightlies 15:24:20 <Darkvater> workaround as in comment out? that is not a workaround it's the same as a revert 15:25:22 <Darkvater> can _anyone_ tell me why FS doesn't show the title of the bugreport when you are actually reading it? 15:25:25 <Darkvater> gaaaaah!\ 15:25:38 <peter1138> it does? 15:25:54 <Darkvater> it doesn't 15:26:01 <peter1138> does for me 15:26:02 <Darkvater> (at least when you aren't logged in) 15:26:15 <peter1138> nope, does it logged out too 15:26:26 <Darkvater> where? 15:26:33 * Darkvater must be blind or something 15:26:34 <peter1138> on the, uh, title 15:26:38 <Darkvater> OMG 15:26:46 <Darkvater> invisble text :s 15:27:00 <peter1138> it's black text here 15:27:12 <Darkvater> it's invisible with invisible background 15:27:14 <Darkvater> fkcni IE 15:27:21 <peter1138> IE7? 15:27:23 <peter1138> it works in IE6 15:27:33 <Darkvater> not here 15:34:38 <peter1138> this is the lamest webservice ever 15:35:15 <peter1138> paramstring = userid & "|" & password & "|" & data & "|" & moredata & "|" & etc 15:35:31 <peter1138> result = ws.somefunction(paramstring) 15:35:41 <peter1138> wtf comes up with this shit... 15:36:40 <Darkvater> sounds nifty ;p 15:36:44 <Naksu> peter1138: a sadist 15:36:48 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:39:11 <Darkvater> peter1138: show us more code! 15:42:24 <Darkvater> man, i should've bought google stock back in 2004 15:42:44 <Darkvater> only 0 and two years later i would've made a 500% return 15:42:58 <hylje> only 15:43:10 <Darkvater> now where did I put that time-machine 15:52:36 <Zevensoft> damn this guy, hes got 3 forests around 1 station 15:54:56 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F22E0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:01:23 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:05:52 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 16:06:28 <Ailure> ghsgfgsdhahaha 16:06:33 <Ailure> just found a farm and a oil well 16:06:42 <Ailure> inside a huge metropolis that grew thanks to a computer 16:06:50 <peter1138> ... 16:07:03 <peter1138> happnes 16:08:03 <Ailure> heh 16:08:05 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 16:08:05 <Ailure> as a side effect 16:08:08 <Ailure> that farm have no farmland 16:08:13 <CIA-1> tron * r7239 /trunk/ (airport_gui.c dock_gui.c rail_gui.c road_gui.c): Enumerate the widgets in the airport, dock, rail and road toolbars 16:09:17 <Ailure> guess the farmers 16:09:22 <Ailure> refuses to sell their land or something 16:09:33 <Ailure> but not their farmland 16:22:56 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:30:13 <Zevensoft> hrm exit signals act weird 16:30:28 <Zevensoft> it seems they dont care if a path is actually possible 16:31:53 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD91A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:25 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@p57AAD7E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:51 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:47:58 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 16:51:54 <Brianetta> Zevensoft: No, they do not care. 16:52:21 <Brianetta> If they did care, none of the clever priority lane signalling schemes you see on the forum would work. 16:54:43 <Zevensoft> I'm trying to figure out 2 way forking :( 16:55:04 <Zevensoft> atm it kinda works 16:58:08 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@90-224-32-143-no95.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:02:02 *** Bear_ [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:02:08 *** Bear_ [~IceChat7@pool-68-238-191-62.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #openttd [] 17:09:54 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:51 *** lolman|SixthForm is now known as lolman 17:18:41 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2Eat 17:28:22 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:28:53 <Wolf01> ello 17:40:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> Zevensoft: only PBS care about paths 17:42:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> the other signals only care about connected components (aka signal blocks) 17:43:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's one of the features that makes PBS so great 17:44:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 17:46:59 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176101058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:00:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:16:55 <CIA-1> tron * r7240 /trunk/road_cmd.c: -Fix: Always display the excavation of roadworks even when fully zoomed out (they are quite noticable) or "full details" are off (they are part of the game mechanics) 18:22:15 *** MaGinty [~maginty@cpc3-fare3-0-0-cust867.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:26:47 <Darkvater> ola 18:26:47 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:27:01 *** Rens2Eat is now known as Rens2Sea 18:27:25 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.37] has joined #openttd 18:27:39 <Tron> if every bug was that easy 18:28:11 <Tron> i just moved 3 lines 6 lines down ^^ 18:29:46 * HMage scratches his head on three calls to setlocale() in strtolower() 18:30:27 <glx> HMage: backup, change, restore :) 18:31:09 <HMage> I don't think it'll be cheap to do so many setlocale() calls and without ill side effects 18:31:30 <HMage> how often is strtolower() called? 18:31:46 <Darkvater> 10 times in all if you're unlucky 18:32:48 <HMage> during the whole game experience from launch to closing the game? 18:33:29 <Darkvater> yes 18:33:51 <Darkvater> well ok, perhaps even less 18:34:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have a comment to that button vs. dropdown discussion: it is way easier to misclick lines on top of each other (in a dropdown list) than buttons next to each other 18:34:21 <HMage> ok 18:34:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> because the height is much less than the width 18:35:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> besides, dropdown lists are bad, because you need 2 clicks, instead of one 18:35:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> i hate the "advanced orders" patch in the miniin for that, too 18:35:35 <Darkvater> dropdowns are for options that you don't use continously 18:36:25 <Darkvater> 3 buttons don't fit and 2 rows of options is ugly 18:38:57 <Darkvater> Rubidium: that callback for tgp why did you add a NULL-callback at the end of generateterrainperlin? The whole thing is finished then, I don't see any sense in it 18:39:27 <Tron> apropos generateterrainmess 18:39:32 <Tron> it still leaks its thread! 18:39:57 <Darkvater> well, I"m not even talking about that 18:41:10 <Rubidium> cause there is no need to call the callback when it's not necessary anymore 18:41:53 <Darkvater> well there is a call just before to FreeHeightMap() so you could rename abort to end 18:42:21 <Darkvater> and resetting the callback is not such a good design imho when everything goes well 18:45:49 <Rubidium> that might be true, but makes it less clear that the callback will be called on an abortion 18:46:03 <Darkvater> then we should rename the callback :) 18:46:35 <Rubidium> to AbortAndEndCallback? 18:46:37 <Darkvater> TerrainGenerationCleanup() or something 18:46:56 <Darkvater> ...end....clenaup...callback 18:50:21 *** pxl [PigCell@dslb-088-073-181-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:20 <Rubidium> that would mean that the deallocation used for the initial stage is done when the game is really starting 18:53:14 <Darkvater> you can call the 'abortcallback' at the end of the function 18:53:25 <Darkvater> yes, that would be the same as now, only extra indirection 18:53:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:53:59 <Darkvater> but at least more logic imho 18:54:16 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-103-219.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:54:35 <Darkvater> or the 'abortcallback' should be put into the 'endgeneration'-callback 18:57:11 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-072-180-235.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:11 *** pxl is now known as PigCell 18:58:03 <Rubidium> Darkvater: you know that no callback is called at the end of GenerateTerrainPerlin? 18:59:24 <Darkvater> there is another callback function 18:59:52 <Rubidium> that one is used totally different 18:59:53 <Darkvater> gw_done_proc 19:00:14 <Darkvater> that is when done, so freeheightmap can be freed there no? 19:00:51 <Rubidium> that callback is already used 19:01:17 <Darkvater> yes, call the other one after that 19:01:23 <Darkvater> or am I missing something completely? 19:01:55 <Rubidium> you want to stack callbacks? or make a list of callback to execute? 19:02:51 <Darkvater> can't find atm where callback done is called, but abort (eg cleanup) can be called after that 19:02:55 <Rubidium> the callback I added was just for when the generation would be aborted, so you can set global settings back, free memory etc. 19:05:20 <Rubidium> I wouldn't mind if someone splits his map generation algorithm into two distinct stages and has two abort procedures (one for each stage) 19:05:49 <Rubidium> but when you are going to use the callback to clean in a correct situation, it might get troublesome. 19:06:20 <Darkvater> well it depends. usually whatever cleanup you do on abortion you have to do at the end as well 19:06:23 <Rubidium> oh, and with the two distinct stages I meant things like using TGP and some kind of algorithm to make a nicer spread of industries throughout the map 19:06:52 <Rubidium> then you might need two different abort functions and thus need stacking of the abort functions 19:07:37 <Tron> please don't make it more complicated than it already is 19:07:38 <KUDr> or we can remove the callback and do abort/cleanup different way 19:08:18 <Tron> get the problems fixed or 0.5 will be ready for christmas ... next year 19:09:02 <Tron> the whole thing is a mess and needs to be redone, but we probably can't get rid of it anymore before 0.5 19:09:12 <Rubidium> true, but that would mean redesigning large parts of the backbone of OpenTTD to (correctly) work with threads. 19:10:28 <Darkvater> well I think it could be done the same way as the saveload thread communicates with the main thread 19:11:17 <Tron> i just wanted a terrain generator any a nice window to flip all its little switches. but no, somebody had to play the mule and do N things at once 19:11:49 <Tron> Darkvater: i don't even like that 19:12:20 <hylje> messaging! 19:15:53 <Rubidium> what does make OTTD_SendThreadMessage any better/more thread safe than the current implementation in genworld? 19:16:53 <Tron> nothing 19:17:00 <Tron> it's both plain ugly 19:17:45 *** iMonkey [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 19:19:01 * KUDr agrees with Tron (can't belive, but it is true :) 19:32:16 *** iMonkey is now known as MaulingMonkey 19:32:50 <MaulingMonkey> Oh whoops, I should be using my other nick here >_> (fiddling around with my iBook settings for my extended thanksgiving stay) 19:32:55 *** MaulingMonkey is now known as PandaMojo 19:32:59 <lolman> Evening :) 19:34:03 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:34:35 *** Nigel [~Nigel@125-238-64-36.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:35:55 *** fusey [fusion@69-160-51-207.ontrca.adelphia.net] has joined #openttd 19:41:26 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-073-181-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49:18 <Gorre> Im need to buy some trees @ amazon :/ - http://www.gorre.info/blender/hq/006_pre_pre_alpha_trees_anyone.png 19:50:00 <Wolf01> looks good 19:50:07 <peter1138> evenininging 19:50:46 <Wolf01> peter1138! nothing... :/ 19:50:52 <peter1138> hmm? 19:50:54 <peter1138> nothing? 19:54:12 <Wolf01> i was writing something about the eyecandy patch, but i think i'm being too much *insert a word here (sacro will insert "stupid" or "italian")* if i continue to ask every little thing 19:54:57 <lolman> Stupid AND Italian, knowing Sacro 19:54:58 <peter1138> oh 19:56:18 <peter1138> well some sort of spec is being thought about for it 19:56:24 * HMage randomly builds trees around the channel 19:56:35 <peter1138> your rating needs improving? 19:56:46 * hylje changes into a dragon and burns said trees 19:56:55 <peter1138> Appalling! 19:57:01 * HMage changes into another dragon and burns hylje 19:57:15 <HMage> I just felt like to 19:57:37 * lolman turns into a hosepipe and puts hylje out 19:58:19 * hylje dodges 19:58:29 <lolman> You're on fire... 19:58:34 <lolman> lol 19:58:43 <HMage> 1 minute lag for hylje :) 19:59:00 <lolman> Yep lol 19:59:06 <HMage> hylje: you're out of sync. 19:59:30 * hylje quits: Desync Error 19:59:46 * HMage paused the game (client exiting) 19:59:49 * HMage unpaused the game 20:00:30 * lolman pauses the game (client joining) 20:00:43 * HMage can't move 20:01:05 * lws1984 unpaused the game 20:01:17 <lolman> The client never joined :P 20:01:39 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:01:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:01:43 <lolman> :o 20:01:46 <HMage> rofl, imagine that IRC servers pause all traffic when client joins until he's fully in the system 20:01:48 <lolman> Oh noes... 20:02:00 <lolman> HMage, ouch 20:02:19 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:42 * HMage pauses the internets 20:02:47 <Bjarni> hey lolman is back 20:02:56 <lolman> Indeed lolman is back :) 20:03:00 <Bjarni> we (didn't) miss you 20:03:04 <lolman> haha 20:03:13 <peter1138> mr Bjarni 20:03:21 * HMage configures a patch to omit data inside braces 20:03:22 * lolman has been (and still is) incredibly busy 20:04:07 <Bjarni> jerking off do not count as being too busy to be on IRC 20:04:25 <lolman> Bjarni, Sixth Form work lol 20:05:02 <HMage> maybe he was playing openttd? 20:05:19 <lolman> That I wasn't doing 20:11:08 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-073-181-137.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:49 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D7DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:17:25 <peter1138> Bjarni: what's your excuse then? 20:17:45 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3CE84.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:24 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CC1B.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:44:55 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:51:15 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: Whoopsy] 20:54:58 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-083-102-065-114.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has quit [] 20:58:16 <Bjarni> <peter1138> Bjarni: what's your excuse then? <-- I got the greatest one ever, but why should I tell you guys? 20:59:01 *** MaGinty [~maginty@cpc3-fare3-0-0-cust867.cos2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 21:00:07 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [] 21:00:30 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 21:00:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 21:01:48 *** Klanticus [~Klanticus@201-92-82-74.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 21:06:03 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:57 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:08:48 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:23:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gorre: i kinda like that $ sign (OTTD symbol) on the roof ;) 21:23:28 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:30:06 *** kdr [~materi@h-85-24-203-79.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:32:14 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC78AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:32:21 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 21:34:08 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:34:16 *** valhallasw`18 is now known as valhallasw 21:41:05 *** Zr40 [~Zirconium@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:58 <Wolf01> 'night 21:49:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:54:00 *** Mucht_ is now known as Mucht 22:03:50 <Gorre> Eddi|zuHause3: ~ 1 hour of work, iv never really figured out how to work with textures 22:03:54 <Gorre> thanks anyway 22:03:57 <Gorre> (good night) 22:04:01 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has quit [Quit: Socially inept? 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