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quit [Server closed connection] 07:07:35 *** kampasky [pasky@nikam-dmz.ms.mff.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 07:14:57 <peter1138> hmm 07:16:01 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16:57 <tormentum> hmm? 07:17:02 <tormentum> hmm! 07:23:25 <peter1138> Darkvater: morphos 07:27:04 <CIA-2> tron * r7245 /branches/32bpp/spriteloader32.c: Turn GetEndOfWord() into something comprehensible 07:27:17 <peter1138> morning tron 07:27:23 <Tron> morning peter1138 07:28:00 <Noldo> I like the sound of that function 07:28:58 <peter1138> 21 lines down to 2 07:28:59 <peter1138> nice 07:29:19 <peter1138> with some strange line adding/removing outside 07:30:30 <Tron> took me a few minutes to figure out what this thing does 07:40:40 <peter1138> is there any way to add 32bpp sprites yet? 07:40:45 <peter1138> (as opposed to replace) 07:58:19 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-56-32.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:58:34 *** Hagbarddenstore [~hagbard@firewall1.driftbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:02:52 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 08:28:45 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAF0CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:34:22 <peter1138> doobydoob 08:45:04 <Darkvater> morning 08:47:00 <peter1138> hello 08:47:02 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-139-24.vodafone-net.de] has joined #openttd 08:49:03 *** Tron_ [l8M59RdK@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 08:50:39 <Darkvater> GetEndOfWorld() 08:50:40 <Darkvater> ^^ 08:51:08 <Darkvater> so what 'bout morphos peter1138 ? 08:54:06 <Darkvater> if you are thinking about nightlies I'd be more worried about the win32 ones failing 08:55:13 <Prof_Frink> screw win32 09:17:09 <peter1138> feh, who uses windows? 09:19:42 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAF0CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 09:23:22 <Darkvater> I think just a tiny bit more users than morphos ;) 09:24:31 <peter1138> most of the complaints have been for the miniin :/ 09:24:40 <peter1138> so screw 'em 09:24:40 <peter1138> heh 09:25:47 <Darkvater> they shouldn't have synced ^^ 09:30:11 <peter1138> :) 09:49:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:50:23 <Wolf01> ello 09:51:42 <peter1138> hi 09:53:38 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-28.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 10:04:42 <Nigel> god, if i play miniin these days, i just do a Debug build 10:07:38 <peter1138> buggy? 10:11:14 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAEA32.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:11:33 <Wolf01> is the compiler stupid? http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZLsgSn71.html 10:12:29 <Wolf01> i got this four times with different files 10:18:30 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CC1B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 10:19:48 <peter1138> yes 10:19:55 <peter1138> "Assembler messages:" ? 10:20:11 <peter1138> what compiler is that? heh 10:20:22 <Wolf01> mingw 10:21:16 <Darkvater> well permission denied speaks for itself I think 10:21:55 <Wolf01> but if i restart the compile process it compiles 10:33:23 <Darkvater> so; what's the buzz today? :) 10:39:33 <peter1138> well 10:39:41 <peter1138> who knows? 10:40:52 <peter1138> http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/sci_nat_enl_1164360921/img/1.jpg 10:41:00 <peter1138> i wonder who many disks you could wipe with that... 10:45:00 <Darkvater> so, how do we feel about... 10:45:01 <Darkvater> http://darkvater.homeip.net/~tfarago/openttd/utf8_unicode_v3.patch 10:47:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:49:08 <blathijs> peter1138: What exactly is that? 10:51:19 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498FCA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:28 <Zaviori> Is that THE magnet? 10:51:41 <peter1138> yeha 10:53:21 <KUDr_wrk> Darkvater: can't we have problems with multithreading? (static wchar_t ucs2_buf[MAX_PATH]; in OTTD2FS()) 10:53:41 <peter1138> we multithread? 10:53:48 <Darkvater> KUDr_wrk: we multi-what? 10:53:53 <KUDr_wrk> save 10:54:10 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-184-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:12 <Darkvater> saving does not concern itself with filenames 10:54:16 <KUDr_wrk> it uses another thread or not? 10:54:31 <KUDr_wrk> then ok 10:54:32 <Darkvater> if we were to truly multithread 80% of OTTD code would be broken 10:54:40 <KUDr_wrk> true 10:55:46 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498CD6D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:56:27 <blathijs> Zaviori: THE magnet? 10:56:37 <Zaviori> not just a magnet, THE magnet! 10:57:07 <peter1138> cern's atlas detector, or something 10:57:16 <Zaviori> oh shi- 10:57:45 <peter1138> hmm? 10:59:42 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAEA32.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 11:00:06 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-175-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:00:20 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 11:02:02 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:02:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 11:02:52 <Brianetta> I think that OpenTTD should be rewritten as lots of individual apps communicating by some network protocol (: 11:03:04 <Brianetta> killall openttd_ship 11:03:11 <Darkvater> I think I should win the lottery 11:03:16 <Brianetta> that'd kill all the ship processes (: 11:03:21 <Brianetta> and they'd vanish 11:03:28 <Brianetta> unless you killed with sig 11 11:03:33 <Brianetta> then they'd explode 11:03:38 <peter1138> each vehicle is a separate process? :) 11:03:40 <Brianetta> except they don't have explosions ): 11:03:45 <Brianetta> peter1138: Yes! 11:03:54 <Brianetta> and the game world like some crazy X server 11:04:09 <Darkvater> we could have vehicles behave like a multiagent environment 11:04:13 <Brianetta> with processes for towns, spawning child processes for road reconstruction 11:04:14 <Darkvater> completely autonomous 11:04:50 <Brianetta> You could make the whole thing like a Linux distro 11:04:58 <Brianetta> with runlevel scripts controlling industries etc 11:05:04 <blathijs> aptitude install ships 11:05:07 <Brianetta> /etc/init.d/factory start 11:05:17 <Brianetta> apt get pikka_ukrs 11:05:21 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:05:38 <Brianetta> which would be a new bunch of train programs 11:05:57 <Brianetta> "package pikka_ukrs conflicts with package openttd_stanadard_trains" 11:06:20 <Brianetta> Building a new train in a depot would make the depot daemon spawn a new train 11:06:54 <Brianetta> You's need to disown the children, though, or demolishing the depot would make all the trains sigterm and explode 11:08:11 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 11:09:02 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:09:13 *** Wolfy [~wolf@h33083.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 11:15:39 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-155.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 11:16:54 *** Neonox [~Neonox@ip-80-226-139-24.vodafone-net.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:23:59 <Darkvater> !seen weirdo 11:24:00 <_42_> Darkvater, Weirdo (~truelight@145.118.72.134) was last seen quitting #openttd.tgp 12 hours 34 minutes ago (23.11. 22:49) stating "Quit: ngiht" after spending 7 hours 9 minutes there. 11:32:49 <peter1138> hmm 11:33:10 <peter1138> i guess i need to fuck with gfxinit 11:33:25 <peter1138> it only loads sprites if the climate has changed 11:33:45 <Darkvater> and not when you load a game using different newgrf files? 11:33:52 <Darkvater> yes, that would be a good idea 11:34:01 <peter1138> it needs to always load 11:34:12 <peter1138> as changing patch options can lead to different stuff happening too 11:34:20 <peter1138> otoh 11:34:29 <peter1138> if no grfs are specified at all, then it's wasteful 11:36:08 <Darkvater> well, you do have to reload it if grf's were used and are not used in the loaded game 11:36:16 <peter1138> yes 11:36:31 <peter1138> so either i can make it remember 11:36:37 <peter1138> so if none will be loaded now 11:36:44 <peter1138> and none were loaded last time 11:36:47 <peter1138> and the climate is the same 11:36:49 <peter1138> it won't bother 11:36:53 <peter1138> or just make it always load, heh 11:37:03 <peter1138> (and remove another global) 11:37:13 <Darkvater> are we really talking about efficiency? I mean this is a once-per-lifetime action usually 11:37:50 <peter1138> true 11:37:53 <peter1138> yes 11:38:15 <Darkvater> I think I wouldn't mind it if it meant the evasion of the addition of yet more globals 11:39:10 <peter1138> the patch settings thing actually means it's a problem at the moment anyway 11:39:18 <peter1138> let alone changing of grf settings 11:39:47 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/alwaysload.diff 11:40:21 <Darkvater> patch settings would be a pain yes, updating on grf-settings/parameters should be easy...however it could break your existing game 11:41:01 <Darkvater> why is check against _opt.landscape 0? 11:41:06 <Darkvater> or 0 is always loaded? 11:41:09 <peter1138> yes 11:41:15 <peter1138> temperate doesn't have extra sprites 11:41:30 <peter1138> maybe there's an enum for that... 11:41:45 <peter1138> LT_NORMAL 11:42:02 <Darkvater> keke, normal ;p 11:42:13 * peter1138 updates 11:42:15 <peter1138> yeah, i know 11:42:29 <Darkvater> so if nobody is activelly against the utf8_unicode patch I'll apply tonight 11:42:37 <peter1138> normal, hilly, desert, candy 11:42:41 <Darkvater> now we just need TL to 'fix' the crosscompiler 11:42:45 <peter1138> they are pretty dumb names 11:42:48 <peter1138> and used in the config too 11:42:53 <hylje> isnt utf8_unicode kinda redundant 11:42:59 <Darkvater> and...perhaps.. do we need win32-native fonts? (ala KUDr_wrk) 11:43:00 <peter1138> temperate, arctic, subtropic and toyland 11:43:02 <peter1138> would be better... 11:43:04 <Darkvater> peter1138: it's funny :) 11:43:12 <Darkvater> hylje: eh no? utf8 != unicode 11:43:33 *** Vikthor [~novotv6@pc304-28.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:50 <Darkvater> utf8 is a specific encoding of unicode charset 11:43:59 <hylje> but utf8 implies unicode 11:44:19 <Darkvater> yes, but the patch does utf8 <> unicode for windows 11:44:25 <Darkvater> well actually not even unicode but TF16 11:44:27 <Darkvater> +U 11:44:37 <hylje> TF16U? 11:44:40 <peter1138> utf8 encodes unicode. unicode isn't utf8, however 11:44:41 <hylje> sounds like intel marketing 11:44:44 <Darkvater> ^+U 11:45:00 <hylje> better 11:46:06 <Darkvater> I don't even know what windows uses. probably utf16 but converts transparently to ucs2 when you use the ansi functions 11:47:21 <Darkvater> < food 11:52:31 <peter1138> fooooooodage 11:52:46 <hylje> lumch 12:01:11 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAE50D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:29 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F2546.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:33 <Born_Acorn> (11:42:38) <Darkvater> so if nobody is activelly against the utf8_unicode patch I'll apply tonight <-- I can be actively against it if I knew what it does 12:12:48 <Born_Acorn> :p 12:23:03 <tormentum> /slap Born_Acorn 12:23:31 <tormentum> You bad boi... go to jail 12:24:38 <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: it enables you to see nice eastern characters in windows explorer if you save openttd games with such names...without patch, or if you are actively against it, you will just see junk 12:24:42 <Darkvater> whatever you prefer m'lord 12:25:29 <tormentum> Darkvater: methinks he'd being an ass :P 12:26:50 <Darkvater> we have to respect his wishes 12:27:30 <Born_Acorn> Really? 12:27:36 <Darkvater> yes 12:27:36 * Born_Acorn wishes for a sack of money 12:27:40 <peter1138> OpenBornAcornTTD 12:27:45 *** Born_Acorn was kicked from #openttd by Darkvater [there you go] 12:27:49 <tormentum> lol peter 12:27:50 <tormentum> HAHAHAHA 12:27:52 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 12:27:58 <Born_Acorn> that wasn't a sack of money! 12:27:59 <tormentum> owned 12:28:06 <Darkvater> 13:27 * Born_Acorn wishes to get kicked 12:28:07 <Darkvater> ? 12:28:13 <Darkvater> that's what my client showed 12:28:21 <peter1138> sack of money :D 12:28:38 <Born_Acorn> I'm not opposed to anything! 12:28:54 <tormentum> has it been tested, or is that why you wanna get it in? 12:28:55 <Born_Acorn> I was just finding out what it did! 12:28:59 <tormentum> getting us testing away 12:29:06 * peter1138 opposes lame graphics 12:29:09 <Darkvater> tormentum: feel free to test it 12:29:21 <Darkvater> I've tested it locally, but not much else I can do 12:29:32 * peter1138 can test it 12:29:38 <tormentum> i'll give it a whirl... 12:29:39 <peter1138> but i don't think it'll do much on linux 12:29:48 <tormentum> but first i have to write my name on 50 raffel tickets 12:30:00 <tormentum> raffle even 12:31:28 <tormentum> i'll test it with my arabic keyb using gnome in arabic if u like... 12:31:41 <tormentum> see if i can break this fucker :P 12:32:21 <Darkvater> tormentum: no, DO test it on linux....it could've broken something 12:32:35 <tormentum> yes, on linux under gnome 12:32:51 <Darkvater> just save/load your games with non-ascii characters and see if they show up legible in the file-browser 12:32:59 <tormentum> aye... 12:33:07 <Darkvater> also you can try putting openttd in a utf8-directory and start from there 12:33:24 <Darkvater> or give your company a really weird name and make screenshots 12:38:22 <tormentum> not getting svn://svn.openttd.org/branches/utf8 ... getting not found 12:39:09 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:39:28 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r7246 /trunk/gfxinit.c: -Codechange: Always reload sprite and NewGRF data when loading or starting a game, instead of only when the climate type is different. 12:40:04 <tormentum> Darkvater: has it's location moved in the svn server? 12:40:08 <Born_Acorn> Has the saveload thingy been committed? :o 12:40:14 * Born_Acorn has no SVN Digests in ages 12:41:41 <peter1138> no 12:41:58 <peter1138> tormentum: yes, it's move from there to trunk 12:42:00 <peter1138> the branch is no more 12:42:09 <peter1138> +d 12:42:19 <tormentum> ahh k, so just get the standard trunk and good to go? 12:42:47 <Darkvater> tormentum: it's against trunk 12:43:01 <peter1138> hmmmmmmmmm 12:43:03 <tormentum> good good 12:43:13 <tormentum> compiling has begun... 12:43:16 <tormentum> *tick tock* 12:43:25 <peter1138> that's quite sucky actually :/ 12:43:47 <peter1138> the graphics are loaded *5* times 12:43:54 <peter1138> to get to the intro screen 12:43:58 <Darkvater> :O 12:44:12 <peter1138> i suspect thing can be removed... 12:44:14 <peter1138> +some 12:46:28 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Guest52835))] 12:46:28 *** Guest52835 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 12:48:17 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:49:15 *** Guest52835 is now known as Wolf01 12:50:43 <peter1138> yeah, just far too many GfxLoadSprites() 12:54:18 *** Spoco [Spoco@dsl-062-197-163-102.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #openttd 12:58:13 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03E97.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 12:58:43 <peter1138> that's better 12:58:44 <peter1138> 2 calls 12:58:54 <peter1138> once for the initial blank map 12:59:53 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:04 <peter1138> once for the intro game 13:00:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:00:23 * Brianetta just grammar-flamed bobingabout (: 13:00:40 <peter1138> hmm, it creates the blank map even with -g 13:01:04 <tormentum> brb 13:01:07 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:07:00 *** tormentum [~adam@dsl-202-72-142-139.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 13:07:25 <tormentum> okay, got my keyboard set up now: ????? ?????? ?????????? ?? ??? ?????? 13:07:34 <tormentum> time to OTTD it up 13:08:28 <tormentum> ?? ?? ????? ??? ???? ??????????? ???? ??? ????? 13:08:31 <tormentum> ???? ??? 13:08:52 <peter1138> heh 13:09:28 <tormentum> ? ???? ?????... ?? ? ???? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ??? 13:09:31 <tormentum> fuck 13:09:42 <tormentum> i have the latest trunk 13:09:52 <tormentum> which patches do i apply... 13:09:59 <tormentum> (first time testing UTF8) 13:13:28 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC7D74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:15:31 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 13:15:31 <tormentum> !logs 13:17:24 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 13:17:25 <Brianetta> Is that Bengali? 13:18:27 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 13:18:28 <CIA-2> KUDr * r7247 /trunk/lang/czech.txt: -Translation: czech lang file massive update - use proper diacritics (Hadez) 13:18:29 <Gorre> morning) 13:18:45 <Darkvater> mornin 13:23:11 <Brianetta> <CIA-2> Singaporekid * r7247 /trunk/lang/czech.txt: -Translation: czech lang file MASSIVE UPDATE - use proper diacritics (Hadez) 13:24:03 <peter1138> nice grammar :P 13:24:14 <hylje> :> 13:25:50 <Darkvater> am I missing something here? 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what's that? 14:43:56 <Buibo> 0.4.8 that is, my bad 14:44:44 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:45:09 <Brianetta> peter1138: I have a LART, and pedantry is an adjustable attitude... 14:45:15 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:46:04 <smeding> i like that acronym 14:47:00 <Brianetta> smeding: We have a baseball bat here in the IT room with LART written upon it in a nice font 14:47:20 <Brianetta> It sits propped up in the corner 14:47:29 <Brianetta> where we can pick it up when lusers come and whinge 14:51:42 * HMage listens to Untitled Audio 14:52:12 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@zernebok.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:54 <smeding> hah Brianetta, nice. 14:59:26 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:00:08 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 15:00:09 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@zernebok.com] has quit [Temporary K-line 14400 min. - Open Proxy found on your host(81.171.98.104). 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This reduces the number of times the sprites are loaded from 5 to 2, just for the intro game. 18:40:00 <peter1138> FRENZY 18:40:12 <peter1138> now i shall go to tescoinate 18:40:21 <Darkvater> born_acorn whails 18:43:48 <Brianetta> Tesco is short for Tesla coil - a research organization dedicated to making very pro-active electric fences. Boycott now! 18:44:30 <Darkvater> Red Alert!! 18:44:48 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:47:47 <hylje> no, GREEN as in TIBERIUM Alert 18:48:21 <Darkvater> no it was in red alert! 18:48:48 <Darkvater> tesla coil was so awesome. I used to draw them all the time in high-school and zap unsuspecting stick-puppets ^^ 18:49:14 <hylje> obelisks of light ftw 18:49:27 <Darkvater> Tesla Coil! 18:49:35 <Darkvater> it rulez y00 3SS 18:49:47 <Bjarni> Tesla coils are kind of noisy 18:50:00 <Bjarni> also they can be fatal if you use a pacemaker 18:50:10 <Bjarni> even if you aren't targeted by it 18:50:11 <Darkvater> Tesla Coil! 18:50:16 *** pxl [PigCell@dslb-088-073-177-044.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:18 <hylje> i have a feeling that tesla coils are designed to be fatal 18:50:19 <Darkvater> Tesla Coil! 18:50:33 <hylje> requesting link tower -> tesla coil mod 18:51:51 <Darkvater> http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/command-conquer-red-alert-the-aftermath/screenshots/gameShotId,64889/ 18:52:05 <Darkvater> those were the good times 18:52:47 <Bjarni> <hylje> i have a feeling that tesla coils are designed to be fatal <-- that depends on usage 18:53:19 <Zaviori> http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/command-conquer-red-alert-the-aftermath/screenshots/gameShotId,64900/ <3 18:53:20 <Bjarni> they can knock out pacemakers even if the person is in a "safe" distance and not in the line of "fire" 18:53:46 <Zaviori> Populating the edges of the maps :-D 18:53:48 <Zaviori> Rocks! 18:55:44 <Bjarni> I can remember one of the first times I tried C&C. It was in multiplayer against what turned out to be a champion, who had completed the game more than once 18:56:21 <hylje> you got wtf owned+ 18:56:35 <Bjarni> when I was nearly done for, I fired a nuclear attack against some of the black on the map, because I presumed that he had parts of his base there 18:56:48 <Bjarni> I hit his construction yard and all his heavy factories 18:56:50 <Bjarni> bullseye 18:57:09 *** PigCell [PigCell@dslb-088-073-183-174.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:09 *** pxl is now known as PigCell 18:57:09 <Bjarni> not to mention all the units the factories had just completed building 18:57:14 <Darkvater> RA had these awesome decoy buildings....was so fun building a ton of those and seeing those getting nuked 18:57:25 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:57:40 <Bjarni> never played anything but C&C 18:57:45 <hylje> ottd? 18:57:57 <Bjarni> well, I did try RA once for like half an hour, but that's it 18:57:58 <Darkvater> Dune2! 18:58:05 <Zaviori> Dune, heh 18:58:06 <Bjarni> oh and Dune 2k 18:58:13 <Darkvater> DUne2k sucked... 18:58:14 <hylje> dunes are pretty classic 18:58:28 <Bjarni> (I'm talking about C&C style games, not games in general) 18:58:35 <hylje> at some time during the 90s 18:58:36 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:46 <hylje> i had some relatives with a hueg collection of stuff 18:59:00 <hylje> transport tycoon, dunes, c&c, various shareware stuff.. 18:59:18 <Bjarni> Dune was kind of awesome 18:59:28 <hylje> it was 18:59:32 <hylje> i never played it tho 18:59:44 <Darkvater> the original Dune? not the rts? 19:00:02 <hylje> oh, i guess i mean the rts 19:00:02 <Bjarni> http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?gameid=345 <-- this one 19:00:09 <Bjarni> it works great in DoxBox 19:00:33 <Darkvater> ah yes, Dune...Never played it :( 19:00:48 <Bjarni> also it skips the loading time that was a pain for the Amiga version :s 19:01:25 <Bjarni> also including movies and speech didn't make the game any worse either :D 19:01:29 <hylje> :o 19:01:45 <Darkvater> XCOM.. 19:01:50 <Darkvater> man I just love these old games 19:04:11 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:04:17 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:04:43 <lolman> Oh Noes... 19:04:54 <Sacro> lolman: ph43r me and my new pc 19:05:07 <hylje> loll 19:05:10 <lolman> Noes!! 19:05:29 <lolman> I ph43r NOTHING! 19:05:31 <lolman> ¬_¬ 19:06:58 <Sacro> lolman: damn :( 19:07:38 <lolman> Hehe 19:08:07 <lolman> Well...I ph43r nothing except the big brother state watching me ¬_¬ 19:08:16 <Bjarni> yeah XCOM 19:08:35 <Bjarni> there is a patch somewhere on the net, that causes maps to become random each time 19:09:03 <Bjarni> it can even create a new UFO each time so you really have to explore it inside 19:12:22 <peter1138> moo 19:13:11 <Sacro> Bjarni! 19:13:43 <hylje> :o 19:13:55 <lolman> Bjarni, ello 19:14:14 <nairan> theres a com remake 19:14:22 <nairan> proekt caled Ufo:ai 19:14:33 <nairan> *called 19:18:24 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-101-221.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:24:51 <Sacro> hmm, how do i setup VS2005 for compiling? 19:26:38 <peter1138> just install it 19:26:48 <Sacro> yeah... but what else do i need? 19:27:06 <peter1138> directx sdk 19:27:54 <Sacro> yeah, got 8.1 19:28:14 <peter1138> then you need ottd 19:28:53 <Sacro> do i need the platform sdk? 19:29:39 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:29:45 <peter1138> dunno 19:31:20 <Sacro> do i need to compile freetype? 19:42:34 <HMage> Sacro: if you're using VS2005 express, then you need latest DirectX sdk. must be at least summer 2004 or later 19:42:49 <Sacro> HMage: ah right, does that not come with VS2005 Pro># 19:43:02 <HMage> Platform SDK is required too for express. Windows Server 2003 one. 19:43:13 <HMage> on pro, platform sdk ships already outdated 19:43:19 <Sacro> ah right 19:43:22 <Sacro> ill grab it then 19:43:24 <HMage> Server 2003 R2 is the latest 19:44:04 <HMage> directx sdk is released bi-monthly (every other month), october 2006 is the latest, on december there should be another release 19:44:42 <HMage> you don't need to compile freetype if you use openttd-useful-1.2 19:45:33 <HMage> also, I'd like to emphasize that no modifications or additions should be made on visual studio directories, put includes and libs into separate directories. 19:46:43 <HMage> cause I've already heard something along the lines "Oh, I didn't know that zlib isn't shipped with visual studio - it was there. I didn't remember that I've put it there myself" 19:46:45 <peter1138> but not into ottd's directory 19:47:01 <peter1138> because that really messes stuff up :) 19:47:02 <HMage> yup 19:47:16 <HMage> I use /home/msvc/lib and /home/msvc/includes for that 19:47:16 <Sacro> hehe 19:47:27 <Sacro> i happened to copy useful.zip into the includes dir... 19:47:32 <Sacro> might just have to install it 19:48:14 <HMage> also, be warned - you might need to add platform sdk/includes/mfc into include search path 19:48:32 <HMage> and put it above the ones that are installed with msvc2005, or you'll end up using msvc2005 ones 19:48:55 <HMage> (the installers should do that for you actually) 19:49:41 <HMage> openttd.rc includes "afxres.h" but don't confuse it with the afxres.h that comes with openttd source 19:53:59 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:54:06 <CIA-2> rubidium * r7251 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: 19:54:06 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: OSX configuration due to incorrect temporary C files. 19:54:06 <CIA-2> [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: only output 'found' message when a library was actually found. 19:54:33 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-201-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:57:38 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 19:58:57 <CIA-2> rubidium * r7252 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Add: library version checking for libfontconfig. 19:59:25 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:59:59 <glx> HMage: there's no afxres.h in ottd source :) 20:00:23 <HMage> ah, confused it with stdafx.h 20:00:34 * HMage is far distant from both of these 20:02:59 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E949.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:03 <Hadez> peter1138: Something wrong happened in r7250. Unifont for displaying Czech characters can't be used now. The Unicode characters aren't shown both in main menu and ingame :-( 20:06:13 <peter1138> hmm 20:06:22 <peter1138> yes 20:06:26 <peter1138> gah 20:06:32 <peter1138> stupid stupid 20:07:09 <Hadez> Do you need Unifont for a test or do you see an error already? 20:07:18 <peter1138> no, it's a logic error 20:08:30 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0FC40.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:14 <peter1138> Hadez: can you move the call to InitializeUnicodeGlyphMap from gfx.c to gfxinit.c, just before LoadNewGRF() ? 20:11:22 <peter1138> hmm 20:11:28 <peter1138> and a header, heh 20:12:44 <Hadez> Wait. 20:15:00 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D5CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:39 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 20:17:30 *** ThePizzaKing_ [~jeff@c211-28-162-125.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:17:41 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E0D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:15 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:04 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 20:33:21 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:36:51 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 20:43:35 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/0000000000]] 20:45:49 <peter1138> well 20:46:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Darkvater> hmm, I updated to kde 3.5.5 yesterday and now when I log in I get logged out immediately :( <- very interesting, because for some time now, my KDE does not log in automatically after boot, it says it failed, but i can then login manually 20:47:22 <CIA-2> rubidium * r7253 /branches/makefile_rewrite/config.lib: [MakefileRewrite] -Fix: libfreetype and libfontconfig configuration parameters need to be saved for reconfigure runs. 20:47:31 <CIA-2> peter1138 * r7254 /trunk/ (gfx.c gfxinit.c): -Fix (r7250): move unicode glyph map initialisation to just before newgrf files are loaded, else newgrf glyphs will be cleared out too. (thanks Hadez) 20:50:51 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:51:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host44-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 20:54:46 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:58:59 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:44 *** jaapvstr [~my@f172192.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:16:54 <jaapvstr> hey hey 21:17:24 <jaapvstr> anyone on? 21:18:23 <peter1138> yes 21:21:16 <Belugas> me too, but not for long ! 21:21:42 <hylje> only for medium 21:22:40 <jaapvstr> has anyone ever seen ai building bus stations for two parts of the same city? 21:23:15 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:24:11 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:24:12 <Belugas> i can't be sure but no, i don't think i've seen that. Town to town yes, but not "local service" 21:24:32 <Belugas> Ashes to ashes 21:24:41 <Belugas> funk to funky 21:25:52 <peter1138> bowie? 21:26:03 <Belugas> :D 21:26:27 <Belugas> We know Major Tom's a junky 21:27:53 <jaapvstr> i want to try to help ai building one of these days, but since i'm not a 1337 player ... :P what is everyones view here on local services? I do build them alot.. 21:28:20 *** TheDancinZerg [~TheDancin@pool-71-108-200-233.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:28:49 <TheDancinZerg> hey why are there not windows builds for the nightlys so far? 21:28:55 <Darkvater> pompom 21:29:09 <Darkvater> Eddi|zuHause3: if only I could remember what I did last time to fix me problem 21:29:28 <Darkvater> I think I reinstalled SUSE (eh actually ugprade from 9.3 to 10.0) but I'm not sure 21:29:44 <Darkvater> TheDancinZerg: because the zerg are dancing 21:29:51 <Belugas> jaapvstr: The town has to be quite big for the ai to gain somethuig out of it 21:30:00 <Belugas> hello sir Lead Coder 21:30:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't plan to restart my computer much, so the problem probably does not bother me that much ;) 21:30:41 * Darkvater hides 21:30:45 <jaapvstr> Belugas: town grows quick when they have local services though 21:30:57 <Darkvater> Eddi|zuHause3: well it also happened after restarting X so that might be worrying 21:31:12 <jaapvstr> i even tought it too quick.. 21:31:20 <Darkvater> TheDancinZerg: seriously: there is anightly compile farm and due to some mishap it fails crosscompiling to windows 21:31:42 <Darkvater> TheDancinZerg: if you are or know anyone with crosscompiling expertise on gcc you're very welcome to help out with it 21:32:57 <Belugas> jaapvstr : you and me do think that way, but the ai does not. But if you working to make it think differently, would be nice to improve the idiot :) 21:34:34 *** Sionide [~sphinx@cpc4-norw5-0-0-cust184.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:34:48 <jaapvstr> is it true that towns grow faster in openttd then in ttd with local services? it just feels that way.. 21:35:13 <jaapvstr> Belugas: yeah.. it would be nice to do that :) 21:37:14 <CIA-2> KUDr * r7255 /trunk/yapf/blob.hpp: -Comments added for CBlobBaseSimple, CBlobT classes 21:37:33 <Darkvater> hmm who was the morhpos dev guy? tokai? 21:37:58 <Darkvater> !seen tokai 21:37:59 <_42_> Darkvater, tokai (~tokai@p54B80F1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) was last seen quitting #openttd 5 hours 17 minutes ago (24.11. 16:20) stating "Quit: icebears... take care of them!" after spending 11 minutes there. 21:39:39 <Belugas> tokai, yes indeed 21:39:52 <Darkvater> why doesn't he complain about wctype? 21:40:30 <Belugas> no se 21:41:46 <peter1138> probably doesn't play any more 21:41:57 <Darkvater> he was here 5 hours ago 21:43:42 <jaapvstr> Darkvater, are there any plans concerning ai development yet? 21:44:06 <Darkvater> there certainly are 21:44:26 <Darkvater> the plans are to plan some ai development and that plan is to plan it sometime in the future 21:44:32 <peter1138> can you hear me? 21:44:35 <peter1138> major tom 21:45:22 * Darkvater is deaf 21:46:08 <peter1138> yes, i bet 21:46:45 <Darkvater> hmm 21:46:48 <jaapvstr> is it ok if i write down some ideas for it already then and flush them through the mailing list? ;) 21:46:55 * Darkvater writes to the morphos developer connection 21:48:44 <Darkvater> jaapvstr: it'll probably go unnoticed cause what I meant to say that there are no solid plans atm for AI coding 21:49:35 <jaapvstr> kk 21:50:33 <peter1138> "are no solid" == "aren't any" 21:51:09 * jaapvstr is not listening in spanish atm ;) 21:56:03 *** PandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:23 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0EF98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:57:53 <Belugas> And I'm floating in my thin can 21:57:57 <Belugas> far above the moon 21:58:04 <Belugas> planet hearth is bluuuuuuuuuuuuue 21:58:09 <Belugas> and there's nothing i can do 21:59:26 <jaapvstr> Since i'm not familiar with open source coding.. should i upload code to svn when i made quite some improvements or should i send it to someone which then merges it? 21:59:47 <Naksu> the latter 21:59:51 <Naksu> unless you have commit rights 22:00:01 <jaapvstr> whereto? 22:00:53 <Naksu> sec 22:01:08 <peter1138> bugs.openttd.org 22:01:12 <jaapvstr> and probably preferibly diffed patches based on nightly trunk? 22:01:20 <Naksu> that 22:01:22 <peter1138> patches produced with svn diff 22:01:35 <Naksu> i was aiming for "¯\(º_o)/¯ I DNO LOL" 22:02:05 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E949.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:09 <jaapvstr> what the difference between diff and svn diff? 22:03:47 <PandaMojo> svn diff keeps track of revision numbers 22:04:00 <jaapvstr> ah, ok :) 22:04:19 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:38 <PandaMojo> There may be other minor differences, but that's the main one that comes to mind at least. 22:07:59 <jaapvstr> Notice: Undefined variable: register_text in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607 22:07:59 <jaapvstr> Notice: Undefined index: project_title in /www/openttd.org/bugs/scripts/modify.php on line 607 22:07:59 <jaapvstr> Notice: Undefined index: flyspray_userid in /www/openttd.org/bugs/includes/notify.inc.php on line 264 22:08:12 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:09:03 <jaapvstr> (when registering) 22:12:41 <Darkvater> too many bugs ;p 22:13:23 <jaapvstr> ah, i already wondered why it was named bugs.openttd.org ;) 22:13:28 <jaapvstr> (A) 22:15:14 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 22:17:09 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:42 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 22:26:05 *** jaapvstr [~my@f172192.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [] 22:28:15 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-17-108.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:35:36 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 22:36:44 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:47 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #openttd 22:39:23 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [] 22:45:29 <peter1138> nini 22:46:49 *** Stormcape [~storm@d206-116-189-59.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:14 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 22:48:49 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N826P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:02:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:05:36 *** Osai [~Osai@p57AAD479.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 23:10:16 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0FF74.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:15:55 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0EF98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-130-135.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:28:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-130-135.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:30:26 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-130-135.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:33:27 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-17-108.VIC.netspace.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:22 *** Zevensoft [~Zevensoft@220-253-17-108.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:36:12 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N826P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [] 23:41:12 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N826P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:42:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D5A4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:43:50 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC7D74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:25 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:53 *** Turski [~tarmo@dsl-kpogw1-fe21df00-2.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:48:03 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.67+ [SeaMonkey 1.0.6/2006102918]] 23:50:39 <Gonozal_VIII> LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file 'LIBC.lib' what's that? 23:50:52 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: linker error 23:51:21 <Gonozal_VIII> and now? 23:51:39 <Sacro> ...still looks like a linker error 23:52:09 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 23:52:25 <Gonozal_VIII> what can i do? 23:52:44 <Sacro> give it the file? 23:53:18 <Gonozal_VIII> good plan... if i had that file 23:59:53 <glx> which branch ? which rev ? (and I know it's MSVC)