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10:46:14 <Brianetta> Mine are mostly GPKL 10:46:16 <Brianetta> GPL 10:46:16 <peter1138> no idea 10:46:21 <peter1138> aegir's stations 10:46:26 <peter1138> and the harbour one 10:46:31 <Brianetta> those that aren't are "freely distributable with this notice" etc 10:46:40 <Brianetta> Aegir has no licenses worked out yet 10:46:49 <peter1138> well 10:46:52 <Brianetta> The harbour's good 10:47:15 <peter1138> i'm going to change the links to point to grfcrawler anyway 10:47:32 <Brianetta> versions change on there 10:47:38 <Brianetta> You'll have to keep up to date 10:47:40 <peter1138> yes 10:50:07 <peter1138> right 10:50:13 <peter1138> i added a "static" grf configuration 10:51:13 <Brianetta> ? 10:57:01 <peter1138> for the "always load these no matter what" stuff 11:01:09 <peter1138> hmm 11:06:39 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:13 <peter1138> although it will check they're network safe 11:10:04 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 11:10:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 11:12:14 <Ailure> I don't see why a game going three times faster would be a problem 11:12:15 <Ailure> :) 11:12:37 <Ailure> ok true 11:12:40 <Ailure> some interface elements 11:12:44 <Ailure> goes faster with time too 11:12:50 <Ailure> it's funny with the fast forward thing in openTTD 11:12:56 <Ailure> things like scrolling 11:12:58 <Ailure> goes faster as well 11:13:45 <peter1138> not really 11:13:58 <peter1138> it's closely tied together 11:16:48 <Ailure> he3h 11:17:06 <Ailure> I probaqbly should probably screw around with the openTTd source this holiday 11:19:12 <Ailure> hopefully I put together something intresting :o 11:19:28 <Ailure> though in the start I probably do stupid stuff 11:19:37 <Ailure> such as a "Blow up all vehicles on map" button :p 11:20:02 <robboy^> gnight 11:20:14 * robboy^ folds out the bed and locks it into position. 11:20:21 *** robboy^ is now known as robobed^ 11:26:10 <peter1138> the adjusts the springs and waits for it to pop back up 11:27:27 <peter1138> err 11:27:32 <peter1138> s:the:/me: 11:40:27 <Brianetta> (: 11:40:49 <Brianetta> peter1138: Let me know when you have a new traincontrol patch (: (: (: (: (: (-: (: (: (: 11:45:36 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:04 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 11:48:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:48:57 <Maedhros> morning 11:52:30 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 11:54:36 <Brianetta> Maedhros: Darkvater was looking for you last night 11:55:55 <Brianetta> 23:39 <Darkvater> !seen maedhros 11:55:58 <Maedhros> oh, was he? do you know what it was about? 11:56:14 <Brianetta> 23:39 <Darkvater> I wonder if he saw the gradual loading bug on the forums 11:57:14 <Maedhros> hmm. i know about one bug, which i've got a patch for, and the limitations of "improved loading" which there's not a lot i can do about... 11:57:55 <Brianetta> Somebody pasted the link to the airport bug 11:58:07 <Brianetta> where airoplanes were delayed if a train was loading 12:00:07 <Maedhros> ah right 12:01:10 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r7485 /trunk/newgrf.c: -Codechange: [NewGRF] Add debug warning for unsupported running cost bases for rail vehicles. 12:02:43 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]] 12:06:52 *** jotham_ [~jotham@202.20.7.220.dts.net.nz] has joined #openttd 12:11:21 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-157-106.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:19:36 *** Szandor [~2@host86-136-93-183.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 12:51:42 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 13:08:32 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC67E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:05 <peter1138> hmm 13:12:09 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/extragrf.diff 13:12:14 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D9AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:12:42 <peter1138> adds a new config section [newgrf-static] for placing grf files that should always be loaded, no matter what the savegame says 13:12:56 <peter1138> also checks for network safety of grfs 13:13:20 <peter1138> so basically allows newgrf fonts and basic sprite replacements, and nothing else 13:17:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81E48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:18:04 <Brianetta> yey! 13:18:07 <Brianetta> commit 13:18:08 <Brianetta> commit 13:18:08 <Brianetta> commit 13:18:55 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0CF9C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:19:18 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:21:36 <Maedhros> aww, i can't use the uk roadset as a static grf 13:25:07 <peter1138> hmm 13:25:59 <peter1138> i guess it changes bridge layouts 13:26:55 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:27:13 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 13:31:39 <Brianetta> Very few roadsets are multiplayer safe 13:31:47 <Brianetta> (as additional sets) 13:32:24 <Brianetta> The czech rail set is safe, but looks funny at level crossings, PB viaducts and some stations. 13:32:52 <Brianetta> The level crossing is defined in the corresponding road set, which isn't safe 13:33:31 * Brianetta eats mince pie 13:33:52 <peter1138> road sets should be safe 13:34:02 <peter1138> as long as they only change sprites... 13:34:27 <Maedhros> the european road set works (the one that didn't get amalgamated into the combined road set thing) 13:35:11 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:35:20 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:01 <peter1138> in general, action 0 isn't safe 13:36:14 <Brianetta> Is that the RNG? 13:36:25 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@user-544399e4.lns4-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:36:32 <peter1138> but action 0, feature 6, property D is 13:36:48 <peter1138> Brianetta: it's the general "set this property" action 13:36:59 <Brianetta> ah 13:37:15 <Brianetta> the do-er 13:37:39 <Brianetta> Even calling for a random number will desync a game 13:38:16 <peter1138> that's only in a specific action 2 13:38:27 <peter1138> and i've made all action 2s unsafe 13:39:05 <Brianetta> were they all unsafe before? (: 13:39:15 <peter1138> :) 13:39:22 <peter1138> made = marked as 13:39:43 <peter1138> action 1 itself isn't unsafe, but is pointless without an action 2 13:46:03 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@user-544399e4.lns4-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:46:30 <Maedhros> looks like it's action D that's marking the uk roadset as unsafe 13:47:06 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F0E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:47:18 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:48:58 <peter1138> heh 13:48:59 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:49:00 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:49:00 <peter1138> some of that is safe too 13:49:12 <CIA-1> miham * r7486 /trunk/lang/ (romanian.txt russian.txt unfinished/esperanto.txt): 13:49:12 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-12 14:47:37 13:49:12 <CIA-1> esperanto - 146 fixed by LaPingvino (146) 13:49:12 <CIA-1> romanian - 1 fixed, 1 changed by kneekoo (2) 13:49:12 <CIA-1> russian - 8 fixed, 935 changed by Smoky555 (943) 13:49:25 <peter1138> problem is to find out we need to parse it again 13:50:42 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@user-544399e4.lns4-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:51:31 <Belugas_Gone> multidev 13:52:46 * Maedhros will have to try and understand the grf specs as a whole over the holidays 13:53:45 <CIA-1> miham * r7487 /trunk/lang/russian.txt: [Translations] Readded language name as it disappeared because of several, clear reasons. For more information, please write mail to miham-devnull@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu 13:55:17 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@user-544399e4.lns4-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:22 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 13:57:45 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has joined #openttd 14:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause> free 14:08:47 <Eddi|zuHause> wrong window 14:09:04 <peter1138> malloc 14:11:07 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13:28 * Belugas goes for coffee. lotsa 14:21:00 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:23:26 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 14:26:28 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 14:26:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:54 <peter1138> !seen tron 14:27:55 <_42_> peter1138, Tron (~tron@p54A3F591.dip.t-dialin.net) was last seen quitting #openttd 3 days 16 minutes ago (09.12. 14:11) stating "Quit: Client exiting" after spending 5 hours 7 minutes there. 14:28:04 <peter1138> hm 14:28:19 <MiHaMiX> hmm 14:37:25 <Celestar> hm? 14:37:44 <Brianetta> hm. 14:42:07 <peter1138> hmm! 14:48:12 <Belugas> ahouuuuuuuummmm 14:52:46 <peter1138> glx: technically it's possible to commit to both trunk and branches at the same time ;) 14:52:58 <peter1138> foolish, but possible 14:53:47 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 14:57:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81E48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:59:48 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:59:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:05:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:44 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-186-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:09:25 <Celestar> hm. 15:09:58 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has joined #openttd 15:10:04 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10:36 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has joined #openttd 15:11:24 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has quit [] 15:11:34 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has joined #openttd 15:16:42 * Brianetta drives a train 15:16:46 <Brianetta> choo choo 15:16:52 <Brianetta> I have to make train noises 15:17:03 <SpComb> screech 15:17:12 <Brianetta> peter1138: Request a horn button for manual 15:17:27 <SpComb> openttd has manual mode like lomo now? 15:17:38 <Brianetta> SpComb: There's athis patch 15:17:43 <Brianetta> but all trains are manual 15:18:00 <Brianetta> and you can only stop for cargo at stations in the order list. 15:18:50 <Brianetta> It's kind of fun, but it woul dbe nice to have other trains on the line that weren't just full-throttle red-missers. 15:19:56 <Brianetta> It's fun to put the train in neutral and coast 15:20:11 <Brianetta> You haev to will it over some hills 15:20:20 <Brianetta> and then it rolls down te other side 15:21:42 *** YogSothoth [~john@lns-bzn-24-82-64-178-131.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:22:17 <Darkvater> morning 15:22:24 <Brianetta> (: 15:22:35 <Brianetta> Here comes the rain again 15:22:41 <Brianetta> (falling on my head like a memory) 15:22:55 <Darkvater> I really needah reinstall windows.....the last week it's been a real bitch trying to get it to connect to a wireless router 15:23:22 * Brianetta pokes Darkvater with a Linux CD 15:24:56 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F0E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:26:30 <Darkvater> Brianetta: I don't do cd's 15:26:53 <Darkvater> peter1138: any luck with the vehicle desync-check? 15:28:00 <Darkvater> this IS fucking insane..I cannot connect 15:28:09 * Darkvater grabs ethernet cable and jacks it in 15:29:42 <Darkvater> fuck, cable isn't long enough :( 15:29:54 * Darkvater is using the laptop from under the table on all fours 15:38:08 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-0969.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 15:44:53 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 7478 15:44:56 <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r7478 /branches/makefile_rewrite/ (config.lib configure) (2006-12-11 17:06:42 UTC) 15:44:58 <_42_> [MakefileRewrite] -Feature: a seperate directory for intermediate files for debug and release compilations. 15:45:08 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 7487 15:45:10 <Darkvater> this commit lok makes no sense 15:45:11 <_42_> Commit by miham :: r7487 /trunk/lang/russian.txt (2006-12-12 13:53:30 UTC) 15:45:12 <_42_> [Translations] Readded language name as it disappeared because of several, clear reasons. For more information, please write mail to miham-devnull@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu 15:45:25 <Darkvater> "Readded language name as it disappeared because of several, clear reasons" ? 15:54:05 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it means "i know why, but it'd take too long to explain here" 16:02:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Feature request: on load/new game, select the _last_ railtype available, not the _first_ (was like this in TTO) 16:03:18 <Eddi|zuHause> this will probably reduce the number of "i cannot build xxx (electric) engine" 'bugreports' 16:04:31 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 16:05:26 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #openttd 16:08:58 *** fusey [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:22 <peter1138> grrr 16:11:26 <peter1138> went to buy that monitor 16:11:29 <peter1138> and they've got none :( 16:12:08 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 16:13:01 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 16:13:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 16:14:04 <Brianetta> peter1138: Did you rampage? 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17:05:34 <ln-> are you planning a voip support for openttd? 17:08:23 <Sacro> :o orly 17:09:36 <peter1138> no, for the office 17:10:41 <ln-> the openttd office? 17:10:58 <peter1138> a cunting pleb is phoning around trying to get demos of hosted solutions 17:11:01 <peter1138> which seems like a bad idea 17:11:04 <peter1138> to me, anyway 17:11:48 <Darkvater> hehe, cunting pleb :P 17:14:03 <Sacro> roffle 17:14:06 <Sacro> use Asterix 17:14:13 <Sacro> or Asterisk or whatever 17:15:53 <Brianetta> peter1138: I know a guy 17:16:07 <Brianetta> Asterix is the best 17:16:15 <Brianetta> Of the Gauls 17:17:42 <peter1138> heh 17:17:46 <peter1138> that's what i'm thinking 17:17:59 <peter1138> this guy is all "yeah yeah, these guys handle all this" 17:18:11 <peter1138> yet more money down the drain, imho 17:18:26 <hylje> obelix > asterix 17:18:28 <peter1138> i see there's a proto-gui for asterisk 17:18:46 <Brianetta> vitalstatistix > * 17:18:51 <Brianetta> or 17:18:55 <Brianetta> majestix > * 17:19:04 <Brianetta> depending whether you read the French or English 17:19:29 <Brianetta> B52s! 17:19:33 <Brianetta> love shack! 17:19:37 <Brianetta> love shack yeah yeah 17:20:04 <Brianetta> This single had Planet Claire and Rock Lobster on the B-side 17:20:09 <Brianetta> It rocked 17:20:33 * peter1138 ponders testing asterisk on his svn server... 17:20:57 *** Sacro is now known as Sacro|Out 17:21:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it's Majestix in german 17:30:55 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:32:09 *** Wolf01_ [~wolf01@87.5.235.212] has joined #openttd 17:32:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolf01_))] 17:32:14 *** Wolf01_ is now known as Wolf01 17:32:16 <Wolf01> ello 17:42:50 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-140-196-226.range86-140.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:44:07 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:47:27 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... if i have 3 passenger wagons, and 1 post wagon without engine in a depot, i cannot move the post wagon in front of the passenger wagons 17:47:47 <glx> not the same type 17:47:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i can move it in the middle and on the end 17:48:13 <Eddi|zuHause> or i can move the passenger wagons behind the post wagon 17:48:23 <Eddi|zuHause> but not the post wagon in front 17:48:24 <glx> you can only put an engine in front of free wagons 17:48:47 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176123151.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:49:19 <Eddi|zuHause> it's stupid... 17:53:23 *** fusey [fusion@76.174.15.199] has joined #openttd 17:54:30 <Wolf01> i can't remember well, but if you have a mixed train and you sell the engine only, all other wagons wouldn't be splitted into lines of wagons of the same type 17:54:36 *** Mikachu [Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:54:53 *** kdr [~kdr@h-85-24-203-79.NA.cust.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 17:55:24 <Wolf01> so you are able to buy another engine and put it on the front and keep the orders, that was the "manual autoreplace" 17:56:07 *** Mikachu [Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 17:58:17 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that was very annoying in the original TT :) 17:58:29 <Eddi|zuHause> especially because it always turned around the wagons 17:59:57 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... can i enable/disable pbs debug from the console? 18:00:13 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:00:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:00:43 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: debug_level 18:01:39 <Eddi|zuHause> thanks 18:03:04 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3F0E7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 18:09:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... PBS does not work well with diagonal crossings 18:10:32 <hylje> :o 18:12:11 <Wolf01> ha! Wolf01 don't work well with c 18:14:22 <Ailure> http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/humping-dog-usb-drive-robs-us-all-of-precious-dignity-221189.php 18:14:23 <Ailure> wtf 18:14:50 <hylje> precious 18:14:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74.140.121.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:30 <Ailure> indeed 18:16:39 <Eddi|zuHause> it reserves PBS paths through diagonal crossings, but it does not correctly unreserve them, when the train turns around 18:18:43 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 18:19:45 <CIA-1> miham * r7488 /trunk/lang/unfinished/esperanto.txt: 18:19:45 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-12 19:19:02 18:19:45 <CIA-1> esperanto - 39 fixed by LaPingvino (39) 18:23:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:45 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:26:09 *** Mikachu [Mikachu@kr-lun-154-152-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Quit: .] 18:28:42 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:31:20 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-83-100-175-198.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:37:49 *** Sacro|Out [~Ben@adsl-83-100-186-94.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:41:56 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-103-122.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:46:02 <Brianetta> U lang/unfinished/esperanto.txt 18:46:08 <Brianetta> wtf 18:46:14 <Brianetta> we havea translator? 18:46:34 <Brianetta> oh 18:46:38 * Brianetta sees CIA-1 18:46:40 <Brianetta> LaPingvino 18:49:27 <Bjarni> I didn't vote in favour of this translation, but it looks like that didn't matter :/ 18:49:45 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:00 <Bjarni> making an artificial language like that is a sick idea 18:50:52 <Bjarni> a language includes a lot of culture and history. An artificially created lacks such dept. 18:51:09 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: next language to be translated is klingon, and afair you'll be the translator for it :P 18:51:16 <Darkvater> esperanto is pretty gay imho as well 18:51:30 <hylje> h4x0r and AAAAAAAAA translations pending 18:51:49 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: despite of your opinion, there were several wannabe translator for this language so far 18:51:55 <Bjarni> Klingon is more acceptable as it's created to be a language "for fun", not a real language 18:52:16 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: that will never change my opinion 18:52:17 <MiHaMiX> hylje: yeah, the h4x0r is the next after the klingon :D 18:52:38 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: no problem, I just shared this tiny bit of information with you ;) 18:52:53 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:52:58 <Darkvater> if you ask for my humble opinion those people are ... a bit mentally disturbed 18:53:01 <Darkvater> to put it mindly 18:53:02 <hylje> 5t0p 7eh tr41n 18:53:05 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: second tiny little bit of information: the translator for esperanto is a dutch guy :) 18:53:16 <Bjarni> Darkvater: btw for the record: I tried to build a clean release binary + dmg file the other day based on the trunk. It worked, so unless somebody decides to break it, that part is ready for 0.5.0 18:53:30 <Darkvater> Bjarni: good :) 18:53:34 <Bjarni> I think I might need to update the mac specific docs though 18:53:42 <Darkvater> Bjarni: I've seen a bugreport for OSX 0.4.8 18:54:00 <Darkvater> Bjarni: the guy got an assertion in there. The general census is to disable assertions for releases 18:55:08 <hylje> the general census is No'; DROP TABLE census; -- 18:55:31 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: and moreover, we should translate OpenTTD to the elf language which is created by Tolkien in the LOTR :) 18:55:57 <Bjarni> I would... if I had the time to do so 18:56:00 <hylje> golly, why dont we implement every elven language provided this far? 18:56:01 <Bjarni> would be fun :) 18:56:22 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni, Darkvater: btw, if you are here, I feel it as my obligate task to mention that there are several wannabe translator for RTL languages (Right-To-Left) 18:57:06 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: they should translate in mirror mode ;p 18:57:13 <Darkvater> ag BLA >> ALB 18:57:22 <Bjarni> but it would take a while as certain words aren't included (like steam engine), so I will have to study the language and make likely word additions based on it's base 18:57:24 <Darkvater> that would work out of the box 18:57:37 <CIA-1> miham * r7489 /trunk/lang/unfinished/esperanto.txt: 18:57:37 <CIA-1> WebTranslator2 update to 2006-12-12 19:57:02 18:57:37 <CIA-1> esperanto - 69 fixed by LaPingvino (69) 18:58:06 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: not really 18:58:20 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: think about the patches and other windows 18:58:20 *** xkill [~wntrmut@clx-ac2-56-3.westend.com] has joined #openttd 18:58:33 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: it should be [WIDGET] :txet 18:58:37 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: what about them? 18:58:39 <Rubidium> and what about the inverse order of the params? 18:58:44 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: and not txet [WIDGET] 18:58:58 <Bjarni> hmm 18:59:01 <Bjarni> good point 18:59:02 <Eddi|zuHause> MiHaMiX: Sindarin or Quenya? 18:59:02 <Darkvater> don't think so 18:59:11 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause: both :) 18:59:13 <Darkvater> why would you need to change the GUI for that? 18:59:21 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: you don't think, THEY think 18:59:24 <Darkvater> well anyways, the discussion is moot because there is no support 18:59:30 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: because for them that's the normal 18:59:41 <Darkvater> it's either do it our way, or don't do it 18:59:55 <Darkvater> simple as that because ther is _no_ support for these languages 18:59:56 <Bjarni> or write a patch to support it 19:00:16 *** riot [~wntrmut@clx-ac2-143-3.westend.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:25 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... are the elvish letters part of unicode? 19:00:43 <Naksu> no 19:00:44 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: question that whether we want to loose ~1Billion possible user or not :) 19:00:58 <Naksu> tengwar and klingon are not a part of unicode :) 19:01:24 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: then hopefully one of these ~1 billion people can write a proper patch 19:01:24 <Naksu> i think 19:01:45 <Eddi|zuHause> that is pretty bad, since unicode is supposed to be capable of representing any written symbol that man could think of 19:02:03 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: imho it's still better to have "[widget] txet" than nothing at all 19:02:17 <MiHaMiX> Eddi|zuHause: it is capable, just they didn't standardize the elven letters :) 19:02:36 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: [widget] text would be the desirable :) 19:02:46 <Darkvater> that's not LTR 19:02:49 <Darkvater> eh RTL 19:03:35 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: i'll think about a possible implementation of the RTL languages.. this'll affect the widget system again :) 19:04:07 *** e1ko [~L@a02-0432b.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 19:04:13 <Naksu> tengwar are however proposed for unicode and can be found on some fonts from U+E000 to U+E07F 19:07:33 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: just another simple though on esperanto (not regarding the main question, whether it's a useful translation or not (if you don't like it, don't use it, others may like it though)): the translator guy started the translation last week, so I'm quite happy with his performance 19:08:05 <Darkvater> are we gonna have esperanto town names? ^^ 19:08:15 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: esperanto: 78% - 615 bad strings, up-to-date, 1 translator assigned 19:08:18 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: if it's finished enough it can move from unfinished 19:08:36 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: yeah, most probably tomorrow 19:08:58 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: (I use the limit of 500 bad strings for finished limit) 19:09:15 <Darkvater> 500 is really a lot 19:09:30 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: if the translator will continue with this speed, I'll move it from unfinished 19:09:52 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: well, it's the limit for all languages. since it makes much easier for the translator to test his/her translation 19:10:19 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: since if it's unfinished, the nightly doesn't include the generated lng files for the given language 19:10:28 <Darkvater> I know 19:10:36 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: and since nightly builds doesn't include the strgen tool, too 19:10:58 <Darkvater> I know that too :) 19:11:30 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: it makes almost impossible to a generic user (who can translate, but knows nothing about compilers) to create the necessary lng file and to test her/his translation 19:12:15 <Darkvater> you could put strgen online for the webtranslator 19:12:24 <Darkvater> it hasn't changed for ages 19:13:27 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: strgen is no longer valid if english.txt has new strings 19:14:39 <Darkvater> no 19:14:45 <Darkvater> table/strings.h is no longer valid 19:14:51 <Darkvater> strgen (exe) doesn't change 19:15:07 <Darkvater> so supplying the executable + english.txt always works 19:16:25 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: hmm, since when? 19:16:38 <Bjarni> since before you joined this channel 19:16:43 <Bjarni> I think 19:16:58 <MiHaMiX> Darkvater: if there are new params added, strgen must be recompiled 19:17:07 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: now or for the first time? :P 19:17:19 <Bjarni> first time :P 19:17:48 <MiHaMiX> Bjarni: that is strange info, and I think it's mistaken as well, but let me make sure about it 19:18:15 <Bjarni> anyway the important part is how it works now ;) 19:21:03 <MiHaMiX> hmm.. it seems that it's working now 19:21:10 <MiHaMiX> ok then, thanks 19:24:35 *** Belugas [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:05 *** DirtYiCE [~dirty_ice@84.236.50.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:28 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 19:34:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 19:35:32 <peter1138> hello 19:36:18 <Brianetta> hello 19:38:45 <CIA-1> peter1138 * r7490 /trunk/ (6 files): 19:38:45 <CIA-1> -Feature: Load a list of NewGRFs from the config (in the [newgrf-static] 19:38:45 <CIA-1> section) that should always be loaded. These will also be active during the 19:38:45 <CIA-1> intro screen, and in multiplayer games. Only "network-safe" NewGRFs are 19:38:45 <CIA-1> permitted, such as fonts and sprite replacement sets. 19:39:44 <peter1138> spam-a-lot 19:40:00 * Brianetta updates 19:44:05 <Darkvater> :) 19:45:26 <peter1138> eek, that's 5 now 19:46:43 <Ailure> lovely 19:46:47 <Ailure> savegame can't be loaded 19:46:48 <Ailure> D: 19:46:52 <Ailure> guess I have to start over now 19:47:19 <peter1138> does it say why? 19:47:20 <Ailure> that's what I get for upgrading a build in the newhouses branch heh... at least I get a excuse for using TTRS3 instead 19:47:29 <peter1138> ahh 19:47:33 <Ailure> "Läsning av spelet misslyckades" 19:47:36 <Ailure> basically 19:47:37 <Ailure> read error 19:47:48 <Ailure> or 19:47:51 <Ailure> "Game load failed" 19:47:52 <peter1138> yes 19:47:53 <Ailure> nothing more than that 19:48:16 <peter1138> in branches, savegames are compatible only with previous trunk revisions 19:48:20 <Ailure> ah 19:48:23 <peter1138> not previous versions of the branch 19:48:24 <Ailure> well I kind of expected it anyway 19:48:29 <peter1138> good :) 19:48:41 <Ailure> I'm not going "OMG IT RUINED MY GAME I SUE YOU" 19:48:48 <Ailure> xD 19:48:53 <peter1138> :) 19:49:24 <Rubidium> peter1138: only the GRFs saved in the savegame should be sent over the net, right? 19:49:30 <Darkvater> /ban Ailure see you in court biatch 19:49:42 <Ailure> lol 19:49:54 <Ailure> i like the newGRF settings window 19:50:11 <Ailure> I got tired on having to manually edit the config file 19:50:15 <peter1138> Rubidium: yes 19:50:18 <Ailure> and sometimes I forgot what GRF does what 19:50:27 <peter1138> so ignore if flags has GCF_STATIC set 19:50:31 <Ailure> hmm wait 19:50:37 <Ailure> so it does also choose the right GRF 19:50:39 <Ailure> eh GRF's 19:50:43 <Ailure> if I join a multiplayer server now? 19:50:45 <peter1138> yes 19:50:47 <Ailure> if i have thoose GRF's? 19:50:49 <Ailure> ah cool 19:50:50 <peter1138> yes 19:50:51 <Darkvater> provided you have it 19:50:53 <Ailure> guess it's time to horde alot of GRF's 19:50:54 <peter1138> and with loading save games 19:51:10 <Rubidium> ok, I've updated the diff :) 19:51:13 <peter1138> beware of network filesystems, heh 19:51:16 <Ailure> should make life easier though 19:51:23 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-83-100-239-223.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:51:36 <peter1138> Darkvater: think we need a gui for this extra list? 19:51:51 <peter1138> is a bit tricky... 19:51:55 <Ailure> what extra list? 19:52:09 <Darkvater> hmm, I don't think so. As far as I've seen from the diff it has a different colour already 19:52:14 <peter1138> *nod* 19:52:28 <Darkvater> question is..can the GUI mark grf's as static? 19:52:35 <peter1138> not currently 19:52:39 <peter1138> that's the "bit tricky" bit :) 19:53:04 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-83-100-175-198.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:53:05 <Ailure> also 19:53:08 <Ailure> I notice that the main screen 19:53:12 <Ailure> ignores any GRF settings 19:53:13 <peter1138> actually not that tricky, but still 19:53:20 <Ailure> which is good, becuse some things tends to break the main screen anyway 19:54:05 <Darkvater> peter1138: cheat-window checkbox? 19:54:21 <peter1138> oh 19:54:24 <Darkvater> or just leave it out of the whole GUI snce it's static anyways and you wouldn't actually touch the config file any often 19:54:39 <peter1138> i misunderstood you :) 19:54:43 <peter1138> i can add a bit of text... 19:55:11 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/screenshot.png 19:55:13 <peter1138> sort of like that 19:55:14 <Ailure> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/index.php?do=list 19:55:16 <peter1138> but not red 19:55:23 <Ailure> watch me use "downloadthemall" on this page in the future :) 19:55:30 <Ailure> then watch getting myself ip banned too.. 19:55:36 <Darkvater> missing file? :P 19:55:49 <peter1138> yes 19:55:52 <peter1138> to test, obviously 19:56:06 <Darkvater> it already is 'yellow' I think. It's good 19:56:12 <peter1138> it is 19:56:24 <Darkvater> make the text orange? 19:56:45 <Darkvater> (the 'newgrf settings' button needs to be 2-3 pixels higher) 19:56:59 <Ailure> you know 19:57:01 <Ailure> I would love it 19:57:08 <Ailure> if I could speficy a path for the data folder 19:57:18 <Ailure> oh wait 19:57:19 <Ailure> heh 19:57:27 <Ailure> or rather, a path for newGRF files 19:57:37 <peter1138> oh, in that gui, yes. 19:57:45 <Darkvater> MP 19:58:06 <peter1138> Ailure: why? 19:58:07 <Darkvater> Ailure: that'd be possible post 0.5 in general for different paths hopefully 19:58:14 <Ailure> ah 19:58:25 <Ailure> becuse I have three builds of openTTD right now 19:58:25 <Ailure> no 19:58:25 <Ailure> four even 19:58:25 <peter1138> heh 19:58:28 <peter1138> symlinks :D 19:58:29 <Darkvater> you can of course just use soft-links until then 19:58:43 <Ailure> sure I can use obscure NTFS features >_> 19:59:02 <Ailure> also the describtion for TTRS3 floods over the button 19:59:08 <Ailure> in NewGRF settings 19:59:13 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 19:59:32 <Ailure> it looks strange 19:59:46 <Ailure> it looks like teh button would open a web page xD 20:02:03 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip68-9-157-1.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:26 <Ailure> also the "add GRF" window could have a option to exclude GRF's that is already added. << 20:02:42 <peter1138> that would be a pain 20:03:27 <peter1138> coding-wise ;p 20:04:09 <Ailure> tsk :P 20:04:13 <Ailure> Give me some time 20:04:15 <Ailure> and I do it 20:04:22 <Ailure> ...now if I weren't so busy with school 20:04:23 <glx|away> Ailure: it refuse to add it if it is already added anyway 20:04:39 <Ailure> yeah I noticed that 20:04:47 <Ailure> which is why I was annoyed at it 20:04:48 <Ailure> lol 20:05:01 * Brianetta gets trunk and calls it nightly 20:05:06 <Ailure> I give it a shot though, I done something similar before. 20:05:23 <Ailure> infact the problem actually reminds me of a lab I just finished recently. :/ 20:05:26 <Ailure> programming lab 20:07:04 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:10 <peter1138> Brianetta 20:07:16 <peter1138> train control 20:07:17 <peter1138> toggle 20:07:25 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 20:07:30 *** glx|away is now known as glx 20:07:45 <Brianetta> toggle? 20:07:45 <peter1138> should it remember the previous control setting or reset it when enabling/disabling? 20:08:11 <Brianetta> I think it should forget 20:08:18 <Brianetta> it won't be in the same place 20:08:28 <Brianetta> or necessarily at the same speed 20:08:33 <peter1138> ok 20:08:45 <PandaMojo> Well this is peculiar. My goods train seems to be picking goods up from a station, yet not actually subtracting from the quantity there. 20:08:55 <Brianetta> and safety says it should at least cut power, if not apply brakes 20:09:20 <PandaMojo> Oh, nevermind, I'm a fool. 20:09:37 <peter1138> *nod* 20:09:38 <PandaMojo> (the station I'm delivering to does not accept goods yet >_<) 20:09:52 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:11:57 <Ailure> lol 20:19:19 *** Faux [~faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 20:19:24 *** Faux [~faux@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 20:20:35 <peter1138> yay, dutch signals & catenary work as static grfs :D 20:22:19 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82D4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:24:01 *** Wolf01_ [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:24:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.5.235.212] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolf01_))] 20:24:09 <Brianetta> w00t (: 20:24:23 *** Wolf01_ is now known as Wolf01 20:31:58 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-141-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:33:33 * Bjarni wonders what the difference between static and regular grf files is 20:34:57 <hylje> static are network-safe 20:35:01 <hylje> and client-only 20:35:17 <hylje> so they dont desync stuff if someone has/doesnt have them 20:35:34 <Brianetta> Useful for dutchcatw.grf etc 20:35:57 <Bjarni> ahh 20:36:07 <Wolf01> and why newstations desync? 20:36:13 <Bjarni> why are they called static and not client side grfs? :) 20:36:51 <hylje> because you dont need to tweak them 20:36:55 <hylje> and they are always loaded 20:37:08 <hylje> unlike "normal" grfs which are loaded when game starts 20:37:59 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-169-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:38:08 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 20:44:00 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:44:56 *** Jhs [~jhsdunada@ti231210a080-0969.bb.online.no] has left #openttd [] 20:45:20 *** peter1138 [~peter@svn.bucks.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:38 <Wolf01> 'night 20:46:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host212-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:01:04 <Darkvater> which/c 21:01:10 <Darkvater> ech 21:01:12 *** lws1984 is now known as lws|Away 21:01:16 <Darkvater> hey, where's peter/ 21:01:48 <KUDr> his server is offline too 21:01:57 <Brianetta> he pinged out 21:02:18 <Brianetta> There's probably a glassy crater where he used to be 21:04:29 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 21:05:33 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 21:05:50 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 21:06:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CCC8.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 21:11:15 *** peter1138 [~peter@217.151.109.196] has joined #openttd 21:11:33 <peter1138> what a silly irc client 21:11:46 <hylje> your irc client is silly 21:11:50 <peter1138> it is 21:11:57 <Darkvater> silly boy 21:12:05 * peter1138 notes that 3 * BR182s accelerate quite rapidly 21:12:08 <Darkvater> how did you survive for so long without #openttd? 21:12:15 <peter1138> i died 21:12:23 <Darkvater> OMG 21:12:30 <Darkvater> we have witnessed a miracle! 21:12:34 <Darkvater> St. peter1138 21:15:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83119.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:15:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:15:11 <peter1138> autovoice eh? 21:16:22 * peter1138 mutters at DrawString 21:16:28 <peter1138> got the params the wrong way around 21:16:43 <Darkvater> x,y? 21:16:52 <peter1138> did str, x, y instead of x, y, str 21:16:58 <peter1138> doesn't complain though ;/ 21:17:12 <Bjarni> at least you didn't try y,x ;) 21:17:12 <Darkvater> :O 21:17:46 <Bjarni> hmm, no complain when mixing up x,y and a string... not good 21:18:06 <peter1138> well they're all ints... 21:18:42 <Darkvater> stringid is unsigned though 21:18:51 <peter1138> gcc never cares about that 21:26:50 <izhirahider> there's a credits scrollbar missing from the newgrf details window, so the text overlaps if the comments are larger than the window, http://spunge.org/~canuck/available_newgrf_glitch.png 21:27:24 <Darkvater> nice speed izhirahider 21:28:31 <izhirahider> speed? 21:28:54 <izhirahider> the window is not moving 21:29:04 <Darkvater> download aspeed 21:29:07 <Nigel_> !openttd commit 21:29:10 <_42_> Commit by peter1138 :: r7490 /trunk/ (6 files) (2006-12-12 19:38:41 UTC) 21:29:12 <_42_> -Feature: Load a list of NewGRFs from the config (in the [newgrf-static] section) that should always be loaded. These will also be active during the intro screen, and in multiplayer games. Only "network-safe" NewGRFs are permitted, such as fonts and sprite replacement sets. 21:29:12 <izhirahider> ah, heh 21:29:52 <izhirahider> I thought you were referring to the other bug that looks like this bug pops up when windows move with some speed 21:30:14 <izhirahider> (trailing chars get left behind) 21:30:31 <peter1138> *sigh* 21:30:32 <Darkvater> o-O 21:30:35 <Darkvater> o_O even 21:30:39 <peter1138> how to totally misrepresent a bug 21:30:41 <Darkvater> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28866&highlight= 21:30:50 <Darkvater> AiFindRandomIndustry63.27463.27432513251 21:30:55 <peter1138> the bug is not that characters get left behind when the window is moved 21:31:03 <Darkvater> AiFindRandomIndustr 63% 21:31:06 <peter1138> the bug is that characters are drawn outside the window in the first place 21:31:25 <peter1138> heh, nice 21:41:00 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:00 <Darkvater> MiHaMiX: ping 21:45:13 <Darkvater> Greek 21:45:14 <Darkvater> 1591 bad strings, up-to-date, 4 translators assigned 21:45:20 <Darkvater> those greekies :) 21:45:33 <Darkvater> they have the most translators, yet are lazy as hell 21:52:11 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83119.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:58 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82324.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:55:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:55:33 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 21:56:20 *** Belugas_Gone [~Jfranc@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 21:56:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 22:00:35 <Nigel_> Darkvater, what do you except 22:00:40 <Nigel_> they are greek :P 22:05:12 <izhirahider> ok 22:09:51 *** Osai [~Osai@p54B3DF5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:14:12 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176123151.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:15:18 *** 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<Brianetta> Patched 22:37:24 <Brianetta> Builderising... 22:40:14 <peter1138> and i am off to bed 22:40:14 <peter1138> nini 22:40:16 *** peter1138 [~peter@217.151.109.196] has left #openttd [] 22:43:19 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-83-100-239-223.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:43:19 *** fusey [fusion@76.174.15.199] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:06 <Brianetta> How do I toggle it? )->: 22:46:36 *** fusey [fusion@cpe-76-174-15-199.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:47:08 <Rubidium> there is a small button on the left side 22:47:22 <Brianetta> Oh yes! 22:47:25 <Brianetta> Missed it (: 22:47:56 <Brianetta> Damn Zzzz cursor ): 22:48:42 *** Sacro__ [Ben@adsl-83-100-175-168.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:51:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DAE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:55:15 *** Sacro_ [Ben@adsl-83-100-152-20.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:55:46 *** Vikthor 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