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00:04:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:04:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r4.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 00:05:00 *** _42_ [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:41 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 00:07:48 *** egladil [~egladil@h91n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:09:13 *** egladil [~egladil@h91n3fls301o1035.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:10:26 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 00:10:55 <re06011988> hi belugas 00:11:13 <Belugas_Gone> hey... looks how here! 00:11:17 <Belugas_Gone> heelo re06011988 :) 00:11:24 <Belugas_Gone> welcome in here 00:12:50 <Belugas_Gone> baby bath time 00:12:52 <Belugas_Gone> be back soon 00:13:12 <Belugas_Gone> non, la ligne est touours morte 00:13:34 <Belugas_Gone> juste a la maison, c;est ok. le breau est tuojours mort 00:13:36 <Belugas_Gone> je reviens 00:13:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB700F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 00:18:18 <re06011988> oki 00:18:40 <re06011988> i work on TTFF with glx 00:19:23 <Gonozal_VIII> who is dead? 00:19:26 <glx> lol Belugas_Gone next time reply in PM :) 00:20:22 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: nobody, just Belugas_Gone can't connect to IRC from work 00:20:47 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't he write something about death? 00:21:47 <glx> ye his connection from work :) 00:22:06 <Gonozal_VIII> ah^^ 00:22:50 <re06011988> the release O.5 is ready ?? 00:24:20 <Eddi|zuHause> Gonozal_VIII: it's a little harder to understand, because there are letters missing ;) 00:25:08 <Gonozal_VIII> und auch weil ich nie im leben französisch gelernt hab^^ 00:26:59 <Eddi|zuHause> he says something like "the line [cable, connection, ...] is dead, at home it is fine, at the office, it is always dead, i returned" 00:28:14 <Gonozal_VIII> thanks for translation 00:28:59 <Eddi|zuHause> well, my last french lesson is like 8 years ago, so it might not be 100% exact ;) 00:29:03 <glx> well done Eddi|zuHause :) 00:29:42 <glx> bu it was 'I'll be back" instead "I returned" ;) 00:29:50 <Darkvater> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29131&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= 00:29:54 <Darkvater> phew 00:30:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i was not really sure about the tense form 00:31:00 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 00:33:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@nat5.suchdol.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:36:54 <Gonozal_VIII> i will start a new long time game with a friend of mine when the new bridges make it into miniin 00:38:02 <Eddi|zuHause> that'll be fun to merge ;) 00:42:11 <Gonozal_VIII> i think celestar is working on that 00:42:40 <Eddi|zuHause> on merging with trunk, yes 00:42:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but merging with miniin is a whole different chapter 00:43:28 <Eddi|zuHause> and using more bits in the map array can very easily kill PBS 00:43:52 <glx> and I don't want to do this sync :) 00:44:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i eas afraid you said that :p 00:44:53 <Rubidium> Darkvater, typo in your forum post: pahtfinder 00:44:58 <Gonozal_VIII> oh.. i thought that step would be easy then 00:45:00 <Belugas_Gone> that is the ambiguity of MiniIN... people are taking it for granted that it's here to stay 00:45:47 <Rubidium> as far as I have heard, RichK67 wanted to stay with 0.5.0 for a while, not with trunk 00:45:50 <Gonozal_VIII> miniin is the best way to play openttd at the moment in my opinion 00:46:02 <Belugas_Gone> and that it will always be on a parallel track as trunk 00:46:48 <Belugas_Gone> Gonozal_VIII, i'm a lot happier with trunk/newhouses then with miniIN. Last time i tried it, i was... desoriented, to say the least 00:47:15 <Gonozal_VIII> desoriented? 00:47:20 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp83-237-102-238.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause> well, staying with release+patches could be a good idea, especially if he has hardly time for syncing 00:48:36 <Belugas_Gone> disoriented, maybe... it all felt strange.. i don't know how to express it 00:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> but openttd could use some more releases ;) 00:49:36 <Eddi|zuHause> imho it was quite of a bad idea to only allow bugfixes after 0.4.5, the trunk and release diverged very far 00:49:41 <Belugas_Gone> you mean features, maybe? 00:49:59 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i mean release trunk more often 00:50:15 <Rubidium> that's done every night :) 00:50:16 <Belugas_Gone> ho... yeah... sorry 00:50:29 <Belugas_Gone> he meant a major version, i think 00:50:40 <Belugas_Gone> like 0.5.0 00:50:48 <Eddi|zuHause> i thought we established today that nightlies are not released ;) 00:51:03 <Belugas_Gone> we are so accustomed to play with trunk... 00:51:08 <Belugas_Gone> i was not there today! 00:56:30 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 00:56:30 <Born_Acorn> !logs 00:57:05 <Born_Acorn> "The requested URL /latest/OTTD-win32-nightly-r7515.zip was not found on this server." 00:57:06 <Born_Acorn> D: 00:57:52 <Rubidium> yeah, that happens when r7515 isn't the latest nightly anymore 00:58:25 <Born_Acorn> I'm Ctrl+F5ing all over the nightly builds page, though! 00:58:50 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.25] has joined #openttd 00:58:51 <Rubidium> it is stupid that the nightly page isn't updated though :) 00:58:55 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 00:58:55 <UnderBuilder> !logs 00:59:10 * Born_Acorn shakes his fist at the nightly page 00:59:53 <Born_Acorn> What's today's nightly's rev? 01:00:00 <Rubidium> r7533 01:00:10 <Born_Acorn> thank you 01:00:14 <Rubidium> http://nightly.openttd.org/latest/ 01:02:29 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: L?hd?ss?] 01:03:35 <Darkvater> gn all 01:03:47 * Darkvater is beat...releases take too long 01:05:09 <Belugas_Gone> nigh Darkvater :) well done, sleep well 01:10:23 <Belugas_Gone> booooo! Not a word on newcurrencies! 01:11:45 *** Digitalfox [~digitalfo@bl8-40-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 01:12:33 <Belugas_Gone> but i forgive you... it is quite an impressive job, Darkvater 01:17:39 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7539 /trunk/ (changelog.txt langs.vcproj langs_vs80.vcproj): -Add Esperanto to VS project files and update changelog with added languages information. 01:19:00 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7540 /trunk/strgen/strgen.c: -Codechange: Print a summary of the number of errors/warnings of a language when strgen is run with the -w flag. 01:19:43 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7541 /trunk/lang/ (bulgarian.txt esperanto.txt ukrainian.txt): -Set svn:eol-style native for some languages that missed it. 01:20:53 *** mikk36|lap [~mikk36@pc54.host1.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:21:11 <UnderBuilder> three comits in three minutes... :P 01:21:27 <Naksu> !openttd commit 4264 01:21:46 <Naksu> how do i use this thing? 01:21:48 <Naksu> !openttd 01:22:24 <UnderBuilder> !svn commit 4264 01:23:43 <UnderBuilder> !svn 01:24:50 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176096178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 01:26:03 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 01:26:48 <Naksu> !openttd commit 01:31:39 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176102026.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:33:35 <glx> Naksu: retry when _42_ will be back :) 01:34:17 <Naksu> oh 01:39:57 *** re06011988 [~r.erwan@ADijon-152-1-97-142.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 01:57:51 *** mattt_ [~m@S010600e02995cf26.su.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:58:21 <mattt_> just found openttd lookin for an OS X version of the game - awesome work :D 01:59:23 <mattt_> got a question about gameplay: i've got a train running coal to a powerplant, and when it arrives at the plant with the coal i see "Transfer $x" and don't see the amount x appear on my account balance.. what's the deal ^_^ 02:00:33 <glx> don't use transfer order :) 02:02:06 <Triffid_Hunter> mattt_: transfer is for when the goods have to be further transported by a different vehicle before you get paid for them 02:02:25 <mattt_> i used the load and unload orders 02:02:26 <Triffid_Hunter> you want unload (or just nothing) 02:02:44 <mattt_> i'm lookin at the orders dialog 02:02:45 <mattt_> says unload 02:04:24 <mattt_> i'll try with nothing, see what happens 02:05:20 <mattt_> the features added to this game are off the hook 02:05:35 <mattt_> update the graphics maybe, and you could sell this as a new game :P 02:07:55 <mattt_> ah, the problem was my station wasn't accepting anything - was out of range of the power plant, though there were squres on the plant when i showed coverage area 02:08:18 <Gonozal_VIII> not every tile of the power plant accepts coal 02:08:26 <mattt_> ah 02:09:25 <Triffid_Hunter> it shows what a station will accept before you drop it in the dialog somewhere 02:10:15 <Triffid_Hunter> mattt_: oh, and if you place more platforms or lorry stops or bus stations or whatever in adjacent tiles, it all becomes one huge station :D 02:10:53 <mattt_> yeah, i thought it said it accepted coal when i first build the station.. maybe i wasn't paying attention and moved it too far away before building.. 02:11:00 <mattt_> and yeah, i added another platform and all was well 02:11:13 <mattt_> that particular train makes me loads of cash too :) 02:12:03 <mattt_> anywho, gotta put it on hold for now, other stuff to do. thanks for your help! 02:15:28 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.25] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 02:18:08 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176096178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 02:18:33 *** Digitalfox [~digi@bl8-40-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 02:18:39 <Digitalfox> Hi.. 02:18:50 *** YogSothoth_ [~john@lns-bzn-23-82-248-96-40.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 02:19:03 <Digitalfox> How can i know how many srites are being use in my openttd? 02:19:13 <Digitalfox> sites = sprites 02:21:30 *** YogSothoth [~john@lns-bzn-52-82-65-126-160.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:30:44 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7666B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:36:34 *** Digitalfox [~digi@bl8-40-179.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [] 02:37:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75781.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:46:25 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:49:44 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:19:59 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:46:52 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 03:46:52 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:00:41 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6E16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:11:16 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:19:45 *** HMage` [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage`] 04:33:25 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6E16.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:59:46 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has joined #openttd 05:12:13 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B816EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:15:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:15:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 05:15:33 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N741P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:15:50 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N847P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 05:56:13 *** mikk36|lap [~mikk36@pc54.host1.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 06:25:32 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:49:59 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 06:58:45 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 07:06:33 *** LSky` [~hixscript@cc103898-a.roden1.dr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: [ HIX-Script v2.2 ]:::[ Download from ]:::[ www.rupertonline.ca/hix/ ]:::[] 07:23:49 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:27:38 <Brianetta> Which revision is 0.5? 07:27:55 <Brianetta> rc1 even 07:28:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> tags/0.5.0-RC1 maybe? 07:28:26 <Brianetta> ta 07:28:36 <Brianetta> it's not like I can browse the web svn 07:48:32 <peter1138> morning 07:48:40 <peter1138> mmm, 33k6 modem 07:48:48 <peter1138> and ubuntu's auto-updater 07:48:51 <peter1138> what a silly idea 07:49:23 <peter1138> bah, and now the forums mark everything as read 07:49:34 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.216] has quit [] 07:50:33 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-120.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 07:53:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> mornings are an ugly invention... 07:54:04 <peter1138> yes 07:54:12 <peter1138> so are slow modems 07:54:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> i believe i have a spare 56k modem ;) 07:54:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> that i never used 07:55:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> whatever happened to 100MBit for all? 07:56:51 <peter1138> whatever happened to intelligence? 07:57:40 <peter1138> "does it contain all MiniIN-patches as well" 07:57:43 <peter1138> hurr hurr 07:58:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> if it contained all MiniIN features, what would be the point of MiniIN? :p 07:59:52 <peter1138> innit 08:01:12 <peter1138> right, i'm off 08:07:51 <Tefad> i'm on 08:08:06 <Tefad> sans wallet though : ( 08:24:34 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6E16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:46:04 *** YogSothoth_ [~john@lns-bzn-23-82-248-96-40.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 08:53:28 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 08:53:31 <Celestar> mowning 08:53:42 <peter1138> Mr 'Star 08:54:08 <Celestar> I see 0.5 has been branched 08:54:36 * Celestar goes testing it and bridges 08:58:41 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 09:01:09 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE08.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:02:17 <Celestar> hmpf 09:02:27 <peter1138> hmm? 09:04:29 <Celestar> openttd: saveload.c:82: SlReadFill: Assertion `len != 0' failed. 09:04:37 <Celestar> trying to sync/merge 09:05:09 <peter1138> heh 09:05:27 <Celestar> stupid savegame revision changes all da time :P 09:05:35 <Celestar> wee 09:05:37 <Celestar> works 09:10:08 <Celestar> peter1138: we need to discuss the map :) 09:12:38 <Celestar> ... 09:12:43 <Celestar> I guess this concludes the discussion 09:14:28 <blathijs> Morning 09:14:33 <blathijs> Let's build debs! :-) 09:14:35 <Celestar> morning 09:15:43 <peter1138> heh 09:15:44 <blathijs> Biff: I rather build the debs myself, I have been doing that so far 09:15:45 <peter1138> back now :P 09:16:08 <Celestar> wb 09:16:12 <peter1138> Darkvater: \o/ 09:16:13 <Celestar> peter1138: so ... about da map .... 09:16:14 <blathijs> Biff: Also, building debs on sarge works better usually, since dependencies tend to be forward compatible, but not backward compatible 09:16:39 <peter1138> yeah 09:16:52 <peter1138> newhouses makes extra into m6 and adds m7 09:17:01 <peter1138> whereas bridges just makes extra 8 bits 09:17:34 <Biff> blathijs: ok, sounds good =) 09:18:00 <peter1138> gah. phone :( 09:20:01 <Celestar> peter1138: so I should rename extra into m6? 09:20:21 <Celestar> or let newhouses do that after a merge? 09:20:32 <Celestar> dunno what the best course of action is there 09:20:34 <peter1138> hmm 09:20:34 <Celestar> Darkvater: opinions? 09:20:38 <peter1138> i suppose it doesn't really matter 09:20:53 <peter1138> not like savegame revisions are running out :) 09:21:20 <Celestar> ok then I will leave it as is and the newhouses people can rename extra to whatever they want :) 09:22:29 <peter1138> hmm 09:22:32 * peter1138 ponders language syncs 09:22:45 <peter1138> i guess they need to be manual 09:24:39 <Celestar> guys need help 09:24:41 <CIA-1> celestar * r7542 /branches/bridge/ (24 files in 7 dirs): [bridge] Sync with trunk r7525:7541 and prepare for merge (sync savegame revisions) 09:25:36 <Celestar> can you please checkout bridge and see whether it loads the old savegames from trunk/releases (I have none here) 09:28:57 <Celestar> ... 09:29:03 <Celestar> this situation in LHR sucks 09:29:33 <blathijs> Biff: Built debian packages before? 09:29:39 <blathijs> Celestar: LHR? 09:29:46 <Celestar> London Heathrow 09:29:58 <Celestar> they really really need to bomb that thing and rebuild it from scratch 09:33:49 <blathijs> Celestar: building bridges now 09:37:13 <Celestar> blathijs: great thanks. 09:42:51 <blathijs> hey 09:43:07 <Celestar> yeah? 09:43:11 <blathijs> since when does openttd always put savegames in ~/.opentdd/save instead of ./save ? 09:43:17 <Celestar> it does? 09:44:11 <Biff> blathijs: yes 09:44:16 <blathijs> apparently 09:44:31 <blathijs> Celestar: Anyway, all savegames I tried load ok 09:45:59 <Brianetta> /msg sarah_pilot revision 09:47:25 <Celestar> blathijs: good 09:48:48 <blathijs> Celestar: I might not have savegames from the last period, though 09:49:03 <blathijs> ie, last couple of months 09:49:20 <Celestar> I just created a savegame with latest trunk revision 09:49:21 <Celestar> seems to load 09:49:34 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@203-97-223-241.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 09:49:47 <blathijs> Celestar: Me too :-) 09:50:31 <Darkvater> morning peeps 09:50:46 <Celestar> morning peep 09:51:27 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:51:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 09:51:32 <peter1138> lord 'vater 09:51:35 <peter1138> mr 'jarni 09:51:43 <Celestar> Darkvater: please check bridge branch, wanna merge \o/ 09:51:44 * Bjarni slaps Darkvater 09:52:00 <Bjarni> you forgot to mail me about the release of RC1 >_< 09:52:13 <peter1138> you forgot to keep up to date 09:52:15 <peter1138> :D 09:52:41 <Bjarni> no, I told him that I'm busy and he said he would mail me when it would be time for me to compile 09:52:57 <Celestar> NOW 09:53:02 <Darkvater> Bjarni: no I mailed you! 09:53:05 <Darkvater> biatch 09:53:15 <Bjarni> odd 09:53:23 <Celestar> OMG 09:53:26 <Bjarni> because I can't find that mail 09:53:26 <peter1138> hmm? 09:53:34 <Celestar> I was just asking myself what kinda TLA "odd" is 09:53:42 <peter1138> hehe 09:54:39 <blathijs> Darkvater: Did you mail the mailing list? 09:55:48 <Bjarni> no, still haven't got a single mail from Darkvater or any other name that he is known to use 09:55:56 <peter1138> never mind 09:55:57 <Bjarni> not even in the spam bin 09:56:00 <peter1138> you know now 09:56:20 <Bjarni> looks like the big ugly internet monster ate it 09:56:20 <Darkvater> Bjarni: hmm... that is strange 09:56:29 <Darkvater> blathijs: no; do we still use that? :P 09:56:48 <Darkvater> Ey Bjarni, 09:56:48 <Darkvater> I released 0.5.0-RC1 last night, so go ahead and compile the releases :). 09:56:48 <Darkvater> Don't forget to put them on SF and update the downloads page on 09:56:49 <Darkvater> www.openttd.org/downloads.php 09:57:13 <Bjarni> Darkvater: try to send a new mail, just to check if there is a hole though 09:57:21 <Bjarni> oh, edit the download page 09:57:24 <Bjarni> good point 09:58:56 <blathijs> Darkvater: For these kind of occasions, yes? :-) 10:01:41 <Darkvater> he 10:02:08 <Darkvater> o_O 10:02:51 <Darkvater> I was going to buy a new CPU on marktplaats (ebay) and asked the guy for a BIG picture of the CPU showing type, etc. then he sends me this crappy small with the type half cut off 10:03:07 <Darkvater> so I go look on google for this image, and find _exactly_ the same one on some chinese site 10:03:15 * Darkvater doesn't think he's going to buy that one 10:03:22 <Celestar> what CPU do you want?! 10:03:28 <Darkvater> amd xp 2600+ 10:03:44 <Celestar> ah 10:03:55 <Celestar> what socket is that? 10:03:55 <Darkvater> all my motherboard can take :) 10:03:57 <Darkvater> A 10:05:11 <Bjarni> how do I make a newline on the download page? 10:05:33 <Bjarni> (we could also do with a preview button) 10:06:22 <Darkvater> just gimme the md5sums and I'll do it for you 10:07:04 <Bjarni> I added it, but the note about no 10.2.8 release is added on the end of a line instead of on a line of it's own 10:07:27 * blathijs is off to breakfast, bbl 10:07:32 <Bjarni> MD5 (openttd-0.5.0-RC1-osx.dmg) = 2b5bc2eabe1ef7040f4a2938378d3220 10:08:52 <Bjarni> anyway, now the binary is there. You can go make the layout look better. I'm off as I got important stuff to do 10:09:01 <Bjarni> see you 10:09:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:09:34 <Darkvater> only one binary? 10:09:49 <peter1138> must be 10:10:24 <Darkvater> did bjarni never hear about html? 10:10:27 <Darkvater> <br/> 10:10:28 <Darkvater> ? 10:10:33 <peter1138> hmm? 10:11:14 <peter1138> why are the other links prdownloads 10:11:18 <peter1138> and his just downloads? 10:11:59 <Darkvater> peter1138: ? 10:12:24 <peter1138> Note: there will be no OSX 10.2.8 release, since it fails to compile (and I can't be bothered to find out why) 10:12:38 <Darkvater> he, we should add that ;p 10:12:48 <peter1138> :) 10:12:53 <peter1138> so what's wrong with <br/> ? 10:13:07 <peter1138> admittedly it's XHTML, and that page is HTML4 ... 10:13:11 <Darkvater> nothing, bjarni was complaining about "added on the end of a line instead of on a line of it's own" 10:13:23 <peter1138> o_O 10:14:08 <Brianetta> peter1138: <br/> isn't valid in any case 10:14:12 <Brianetta> use <br /> 10:14:38 <Biff> <br/> is valid? but <br /> is better for browsers who does not understand the / 10:14:41 <Darkvater> w3 validator says it's valid 10:14:50 <Brianetta> It's valid XHTML 10:14:55 <Brianetta> It isn't valid HTML 10:15:12 <Darkvater> well anyways..why doesn't 10.2.8 compile? 10:15:25 <Darkvater> anyone interested: we have an opening for an OSX maintainer available 10:15:28 <Brianetta> Because it's old and crusty (for a MacOSX) 10:15:34 <Darkvater> so? 10:15:38 <Biff> oh why must evolution be so bad :/ 10:15:40 <Darkvater> Win9x is even worse and that works 10:15:45 <Biff> (the mua) 10:15:53 <Brianetta> Biff: It's OK for me 10:15:57 <Darkvater> yes, I took special care to make it work, was a little extra, took some time 10:16:06 <Darkvater> but no need to just drop it cause you're lazy 10:16:35 <Brianetta> Well, who has a 10.2 box? 10:18:46 <Darkvater> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29074&start=20&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= 10:18:49 <Darkvater> lol 10:19:02 <Celestar> DEN airport is still closed :o 10:19:04 <Celestar> 48 hours now 10:22:04 <Brianetta> Darkvater: It's not as enjoyable as the argument that preceded the editing (: 10:23:43 <Celestar> 5-6ft of snow in 4 days :o 10:23:44 <Darkvater> :) 10:23:49 <Darkvater> dammit I want snow! 10:26:06 <Brianetta> http://www.openttd.org/servers.php will need adjusting so that 0.5 servers appear at the top 10:26:23 <Darkvater> yeah, we should 10:26:26 * Darkvater fixores 10:27:35 <Darkvater> and done 10:27:46 <Brianetta> cool 10:27:48 <Celestar> good jobs 10:27:52 <Brianetta> You know what I'd like? 10:27:57 <Darkvater> woo Brianetta nice list of newgrf's 10:28:07 <Celestar> nice, there's quite a nice bunch of players 10:28:07 <Darkvater> and thank god I wrote this code in the past 10:28:14 <Brianetta> The in-game server list to sort alphabetically and with spaces and ! moved to the end 10:28:19 <Darkvater> it was just the matter of: $official_version = "0.5.0-RC1"; 10:28:38 <Darkvater> it sorts alphabetically 10:28:47 <Brianetta> well, it's asciibetical 10:28:56 * Celestar needs go or no-go for merge within the next 60 minutes :) 10:28:59 <Darkvater> who's running grfcrawler? 10:29:06 <Brianetta> non-alphabet characters are arbitrary in alhabetic sort 10:29:11 <Darkvater> eis_os? 10:29:27 <Darkvater> yes, it's him 10:29:37 <Brianetta> peter/pb_viaduct.grf 10:29:39 <Brianetta> d'oh 10:29:45 <Brianetta> it reveals my subdirectories 10:30:15 <Brianetta> I might have to pinch that code for greabbing newgrfs 10:30:15 <Darkvater> hehe 10:30:31 <Brianetta> ppcis.org/standard has the MD5s in, but I did them myself with an awk script 10:32:07 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Would it be at all possible to have a URL field available through the net API? 10:32:08 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F2C6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:32:19 <Brianetta> THen the servers page can link to the URL, for rules,e tc 10:32:26 <Darkvater> which url? 10:32:28 <Darkvater> the server's url? 10:32:35 <Brianetta> One specified in the config 10:32:55 <Brianetta> such as http://fuzzle.org/o or http://ppcis.org/standard/ 10:33:32 <Brianetta> It's the easiest way to get contact information available 10:33:38 <Brianetta> People could even link to a forum thread 10:33:48 <Darkvater> it could be possible, yes 10:33:57 <Darkvater> server-url and some description-text 10:34:01 * Brianetta nods 10:34:19 <Brianetta> At the moment, we can squeeze a short URL into the server name 10:34:23 <Darkvater> Brianetta: There is a problem that I'm busy coding around - I used the MySQL "password()" function to encrypt passwords, and now this function's algorithm has changed completely in the lastest MySQL release. On reading the MySQL documentation more closely, it seems that I should never have done this. 10:34:35 <Darkvater> don't use password() for passwords is what you're saying? 10:34:36 <Brianetta> That's correct 10:35:01 <Brianetta> It should only be used in the mysql database 10:35:05 <Brianetta> for users etc 10:35:17 <Brianetta> that has a built in mechanism for upgrading passwords to newer hashes 10:35:27 <Darkvater> ah, phew ;) 10:35:29 <Brianetta> old_password() uses the old algo 10:35:35 <peter1138> urgh 10:35:41 <peter1138> nvidia's new control panel is "teh ghey" 10:35:49 <Darkvater> haha 10:35:50 <Brianetta> It's pink? 10:35:54 <Darkvater> yeah it is... 10:35:57 <valhallasw> :D 10:35:58 *** PandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: PandaMojo] 10:36:07 <Brianetta> An eBay seller is calling to work today to deliver my TI-68 (: 10:36:15 <Brianetta> I have £16 in cash here, ready 10:36:21 <Darkvater> Brianetta: a lot of your grf files are not on grfcrawler T_T 10:36:33 * valhallasw grabs wikipedia 10:36:36 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Yeah, there will be a zi pto download soon 10:36:52 <Brianetta> I only use grfs which are redistributable 10:37:01 <valhallasw> nice :) 10:37:04 <Brianetta> In fact, I might put that together now 10:37:10 * valhallasw still has an HP 41-CV here 10:37:15 <Brianetta> ! 10:37:17 <valhallasw> actually, two, but one with a broken screen 10:37:17 <Brianetta> SWEET 10:37:23 <Brianetta> That's programmable 10:37:25 <valhallasw> yes 10:37:29 <Brianetta> and RPN 10:37:35 <valhallasw> aye 10:37:35 <Brianetta> and totally, utterly cool 10:37:55 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 10:37:59 <valhallasw> and muchos memory :Y) 10:38:07 <Brianetta> Have ou seen Free42? 10:38:09 <peter1138> 10:34 <@Darkvater> Brianetta: a lot of your grf files are not on grfcrawler T_T 10:38:17 <peter1138> silly grf authors :) 10:38:21 <Brianetta> I use it instead of the calculator that comes with all my operating systems 10:38:25 <Brianetta> Windows, Lnux and Paml 10:38:31 <Brianetta> er 10:38:31 <Darkvater> Celestar: what do you want with merging? 10:38:34 <peter1138> though that hovs is unreleased, so... 10:38:37 <Brianetta> Windows, Linux and Palm 10:38:48 <Darkvater> it's mostly aegir's projects I think 10:38:52 <Darkvater> saw the link of the forums 10:39:00 <Darkvater> the PGS: things 10:39:10 <Brianetta> Aegir's stuff is either unlicensed or GPL'd through that old stations project 10:39:11 <peter1138> i like the "search for all above grfs" link 10:39:22 <Darkvater> yeah, that was a good idea 10:39:23 <Brianetta> I don't use his unlicensed stuff 10:39:28 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@intmail.vgtz.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:37 <Darkvater> Brianetta: isn't Silverline Stations his work? 10:39:39 <valhallasw> Brianetta: finally a calculator that can use just the keypad ;) 10:39:46 <peter1138> hmm, those are the old PGS stations 10:39:47 <Brianetta> valhallasw: Yes 10:39:47 <peter1138> iirc 10:39:55 <Darkvater> ah 10:40:02 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Yes, they are. They were part of that stations package, which was GPL'd 10:40:06 <valhallasw> and it gives both the x and the y values :O 10:40:10 <Brianetta> His later releases aren't licensed 10:40:18 <Darkvater> ic 10:40:29 <Brianetta> He's busy fussing abou thow to license them, but until he makes up his mind, they don't appear on my server 10:40:38 <Darkvater> you should pressure him to make up his mind :) 10:40:44 <Brianetta> I've tried 10:40:50 <Brianetta> He likes som eof the CC licenses 10:41:00 <Brianetta> He wants to retain control 10:41:07 <Brianetta> comething that makes him avoid the GPL 10:41:23 <Brianetta> btw, that grf list on my server is subject to refinement 10:41:25 <Darkvater> Brianetta: why not use the license MB picked? 10:41:38 <Brianetta> Darkvater: MB wrote his own, IIRC 10:41:49 <peter1138> Czech RoadSet v1.1 10:41:50 <Darkvater> yes, just use that, MB's in full control of his work 10:41:52 <peter1138> grfid 00000001 10:41:53 <peter1138> o_O 10:42:36 <Brianetta> valhallasw: It's the cutest calculator. It doesn't even use an original ROM. It's 100% reverse engineered. 10:42:51 <Brianetta> The skins are cute, too 10:42:56 <Brianetta> Did you find the skin pack? 10:43:02 <Brianetta> Several compatible HP models 10:44:33 <valhallasw> hehe :) 10:46:12 <valhallasw> omg, people overclocked the HP-41 O_o 10:46:49 <Brianetta> valhallasw: Hardware hax (: 10:47:06 <peter1138> hmm 10:47:17 <Brianetta> http://home.planet.nl/~demun000/thomas_projects/free42/ 10:47:30 <Brianetta> Scroll down to the skins (: 10:48:27 <peter1138> hmm, i've no idea how to use this thing 10:48:29 <valhallasw> aye, nice :) 10:48:36 <peter1138> (i know rpn, but this interface...) 10:49:11 <valhallasw> peter1138: well, erm, try '1 enter 1 +' ? ;) 10:49:59 <peter1138> ah, that's what the enter key does ;p 10:50:24 <valhallasw> enter shifts the entry to the y variable 10:50:37 <valhallasw> then entering a second value and using a function on the two 10:50:51 <valhallasw> yields a result in the x variable 10:51:14 <peter1138> yeah 10:53:13 <valhallasw> why can the 42S calculate a determinant while my casio CFX cannot? harr! 10:55:47 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7543 /website/ (includes/smarty.inc.php login.php): - [Website] Update the latest official version to 0.5.0-RC1 and fix login problems from the intro page 10:59:51 <peter1138> whoever thought a calculator would need skins... 11:00:07 <Frostregen> ^^ 11:00:45 <Celestar> HM. 11:00:45 <Frostregen> math gets mainstream 11:00:48 * Celestar ponders 11:01:31 <Celestar> how do I merge this crap .. using merge or just copying stuff over? 11:01:41 <peter1138> ... 11:01:47 <peter1138> you've merged before... 11:01:52 <Darkvater> hehe svn troubles Celestar ? 11:02:07 <Darkvater> Celestar: you can do 2 things, the easy and the hard way 11:02:26 <Celestar> easy is "cp -a" 11:02:30 <Celestar> hard is "svn merge" 11:02:38 <Darkvater> 1. sync your wc with trunk, check out trunk and copy all files over and commit or 2. svn merge branch1 branch2 11:02:54 <Darkvater> I would say 1 (cp -a) is more work 11:05:36 <Celestar> wtf I have missed targets :o 11:06:11 <Celestar> and a bunch of conflicts :S 11:06:33 * Celestar thinks he needs a clean checkout :S 11:09:43 <XeryusTC> heya Celestar :) 11:11:16 <Darkvater> Celestar: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn-book.html#svn.branchmerge.commonuses.wholebr 11:11:30 <Darkvater> if your wc is clean there should be no problems at all 11:12:48 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-120.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:15:34 <peter1138> hmm 11:20:28 <Celestar> Darkvater: that is .. IF Tron would have done the branching properly :S 11:20:59 <peter1138> i don't see how it matters 11:21:12 <peter1138> you're testing the changes between the current revisions, not those when it was created 11:21:15 <Celestar> it doesn't hopefully, but I'm still busy checking out a clean wc 11:22:31 <Celestar> but yet I have missed targets for example 11:22:46 <Celestar> and conflicts 11:23:41 <Celestar> fischer@galadriel:[/nfs/home/fischer/openttd.merge]> svn st | grep ^C | wc -l 11:23:41 <Celestar> 26 11:24:01 * Celestar goes checking for missing revision syncs 11:24:54 <Celestar> and missing files 11:24:56 <Celestar> and files no one needs 11:26:41 <peter1138> did you do it the right way around? heh 11:26:46 <peter1138> hmm 11:26:47 <peter1138> /dev/hdc3 14350720 14125584 225136 99% / 11:26:51 <peter1138> petern:~# apt-get clean 11:26:55 <peter1138> /dev/hdc3 14350720 9975824 4374896 70% / 11:26:59 <peter1138> i need to do that more often... 11:27:08 <Darkvater> :) 11:27:38 <Celestar> peter1138: what do you mean? 11:27:45 *** ufoun [~opera@85.207.18.146] has joined #openttd 11:28:59 <Celestar> HELP 11:29:58 <Brianetta> Bah 11:30:07 <Brianetta> the HP42S only has a four cell stack 11:30:38 <KUDr> Celestar: i dunno what you actually did but if you use the "2. svn merge branch1 branch2" method it can't fail if you do it properly (even if you missed some syncs). It makes diff between branches and applies them. Correct me if i am wrong 11:30:55 <Celestar> KUDr: I assumed so as well. 11:30:59 <Celestar> KUDr: try it ... 11:31:05 <KUDr> ok, will 11:31:48 <Celestar> fischer@galadriel:[/nfs/home/fischer/openttd.merge]> svn merge -r4426:HEAD branches/bridge/ trunk/ 11:31:53 <Celestar> this SHOULD do it ? 11:32:14 <KUDr> why 4426? 11:32:28 <KUDr> HEAd1 and HEAD2 11:33:10 <peter1138> svn merge svn://svn.openttd.org/trunk svn://svn.openttd.org/branches/bridge . 11:33:14 <peter1138> worked for me 11:33:27 <KUDr> yes 11:33:29 <Celestar> uh huh? 11:33:58 <Celestar> but this is not how we are supposed to do it :) 11:34:33 <peter1138> http://fuzzle.org/o/bridge.diff 11:34:34 <peter1138> heh 11:34:46 <KUDr> this is how feature branches should be merged 11:34:59 <Celestar> KUDr: the handbook says otherwise? 11:35:05 <KUDr> no 11:35:32 <Celestar> peter1138: you expect me to read all this? 11:36:08 <KUDr> you are trying to apply changes made in bridge into trunk, but bridge already contains all trunk changes, so you would apply them twice 11:36:33 <peter1138> Celestar: if you're merging... yes? ;) 11:36:48 <blathijs> So, now we're getting teleporter bridges? 11:36:59 <Darkvater> why's that diff so big? :( 11:37:21 <Darkvater> I'm quoting the subversion handbook: 11:37:25 <Celestar> blathijs: ... 11:37:37 <Darkvater> # ...examine the diffs, compile, test, etc... 11:38:18 <blathijs> Celestar: hmm? 11:38:20 <Darkvater> static uint NPFBridgeCost < inline this 11:38:35 <Celestar> blathijs: bridges are already more or less teleporting 11:38:57 <blathijs> Darkvater: That's in the svn handbook? :-p 11:39:05 <Darkvater> the diff needs some serious style fixes :) 11:39:06 <Darkvater> blathijs: yep 11:39:14 <Celestar> Darkvater: go ahead... 11:40:03 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B81AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:40:09 <Darkvater> I say... ;) 11:40:19 <Darkvater> I'd need to do it tonight though 11:40:24 <tokai|noir> !seen truelight 11:40:25 <Darkvater> don't have that much time to look through 11:40:40 <tokai|noir> hmm.. wheres the bot? :) 11:40:42 <Darkvater> although I think /me looking through utf8 merge was pretty helpful 11:40:52 <Celestar> Darkvater: the merge can wait another day ... :) 11:40:53 <Darkvater> donnu if peter1138 would agree with that..caused him some additional work 11:40:59 * Celestar shakes his fist 11:42:38 <Celestar> fischer@galadriel:[/nfs/home/fischer/openttd.merge/trunk]> svn diff | grep ^+ | wc -l 11:42:41 <Celestar> 861 11:42:42 <Celestar> wow 11:42:44 <Celestar> fischer@galadriel:[/nfs/home/fischer/openttd.merge/trunk]> svn diff | grep ^- | wc -l 11:42:48 <Celestar> 1176 11:42:52 <Celestar> 300 fewer lines 11:43:31 <peter1138> blathijs: without using tile "slices", "virtual" bridges are the only sane way to allow any stuff under bridges 11:43:46 <Celestar> or a 3d map :) *runs* 11:43:54 <peter1138> that's the one 11:44:09 <Celestar> peter1138: there is another way ... 11:44:40 <Celestar> just store the bridgeheads on the map and all the stuff about the bridge (type, geometry, track, stations, signals) off-map 11:44:53 <peter1138> hmm 11:44:56 <Darkvater> but Celestar, you really need to look through the diff because only you know how it works internally 11:45:05 <Celestar> Darkvater: this is what I am just doing :) 11:45:12 <peter1138> only tron, i think ;p 11:45:21 <Darkvater> Celestar: for me or anyone else looking through it it would take ages to find out what's going on precisely 11:45:25 <Darkvater> or tron, yes 11:45:26 * Celestar hits peter1138 11:45:37 * peter1138 denies knowing anything about the branch 11:45:51 <Darkvater> peter1138: custom bridgeheads! 11:45:58 <peter1138> Darkvater: yes, i didn't do it 11:46:02 <Celestar> Darkvater: it'll take an hour at least to read through that diff, so stand by 11:46:05 <peter1138> because i was waiting for the branch :) 11:46:21 <Celestar> peter1138: and for ripping apart MP_TUNNELBRIDGE \o/ 11:46:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F187.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:47:44 <Darkvater> :O 11:47:45 <Darkvater> + /* HACK set the height of the BB of a sloped ramp to 1 so a vehicle on 11:47:45 <Darkvater> + * it doesn't disappear behind it 11:48:02 <peter1138> hee 11:48:19 <Celestar> that'S what I said, I'm still investigating some display issues :S 11:48:31 <Celestar> because of the totally fucked up BBs 11:49:02 <Darkvater> tron did fix some bb's though 11:49:05 <Darkvater> mostly tunnels I think 11:49:10 <Darkvater> where's he anyways? 11:49:36 <Darkvater> doing all kind of 18/26/32blitters, optimizing the hell out of them and then just disappearing 11:49:39 <blathijs> peter1138: That doesn't really make virtual bridges any more fun to work with ;-p 11:50:07 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: where do i get current scenario/* content again? 11:51:24 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: I left out the scenarios from the RC 11:52:43 <tokai|noir> ok, need to make the archive manually then 11:53:07 <tokai|noir> make release depends on scenario/* ;) 11:53:31 <tokai|noir> IMHO it would be nice to have that stuff on svn too 11:54:11 <Celestar> hm the diff doesn't look all that bad 11:55:21 <tokai|noir> hmm.. interesting... wanted to fix a small issue i had last time, but its gone already:) 11:56:09 <Celestar> woha 11:56:16 <Celestar> this "build on steep slopes" rocks. 11:56:21 <Celestar> who came up with the idea? 11:56:25 <Darkvater> tron 11:56:46 <peter1138> tron did it on the sly 11:56:53 <peter1138> though i think ttdpatch has had it for years 11:57:15 <Darkvater> build on *steep* slopes? 11:57:19 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: when i use a non latin1 language i get ???? as strings. i guess u need to build with freetype to get proper display here? 11:57:28 <Darkvater> yes 11:58:13 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 11:58:28 <Darkvater> peter1138: afaik ttdp doesn't have sloped builds on steep slopes 11:58:40 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: how does it work? it uses fontconfig to find a specific font file? no fontconfig here on morphos 11:58:56 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: then you need to supply a path ot the font-file 11:59:00 <tokai|noir> i could patch in some absolute paths to some specific font file though :) 11:59:02 <Celestar> hm 11:59:04 <tokai|noir> ok 11:59:05 <Darkvater> eg c:\windows\fonts\verdanab.ttf 11:59:18 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: no, don't patch in anything 11:59:23 <Darkvater> the user can pick what font to use 12:00:26 <Celestar> ok 12:00:29 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: in the cofig file i guess? 12:00:33 <Darkvater> yes 12:00:34 <Celestar> build on steep slopes is compatible with bridges 12:00:59 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: sounds good. i let the user specify absolute path then. 12:01:45 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7544 /website/server_detail.php: -[Website] Use a different link when searching for individual GRFID's and for a whole list to avoid unnecessary load on grfcrawler. Thanks Oskar for bringing it to attention 12:02:52 <Darkvater> wtf 12:03:23 <Celestar> +~..~...~...//fprintf(stderr, "%s: Planning over bridge\n", __func__); 12:03:23 <Celestar> +~..~...~...// TODO doesn't work - WHAT doesn't work? 12:03:28 <Celestar> ?! 12:04:43 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7545 /website/templates/server_detail.tpl: -[Website] Use a different link when searching for individual GRFID's and for a whole list to avoid unnecessary load on grfcrawler. Thanks Oskar for bringing it to attention (#2) 12:04:52 <Celestar> .oO(is pathfind.c used at all?) 12:04:58 <Darkvater> omg jezus... 12:05:38 * Darkvater should not commit anything today 12:08:29 <blathijs> Celestar: The old pathfinder and the signal pathfinder should be in there 12:08:41 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7546 /website/includes/ottd.inc.php: -[Website] Use a different link when searching for individual GRFID's and for a whole list to avoid unnecessary load on grfcrawler. Thanks Oskar for bringing it to attention (#3) 12:09:35 <Celestar> blathijs: yeah 12:11:06 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Is my server proving an adequate website test article? 12:12:41 <Darkvater> Brianetta: ? 12:13:29 <Darkvater> ah yes it does; it all works now 12:13:54 <tokai|noir> neat... works:) 12:14:03 <tokai|noir> dunno if i have the latest freetype though :) 12:14:54 <Darkvater> freetype2 is what you need 12:15:33 <Celestar> hm 12:17:25 <tokai|noir> well.. its some freetype 2.x 12:17:51 <tokai|noir> 2.1.10 :) 12:18:00 <tokai|noir> i guess i should build a newer one 12:20:04 <Celestar> hm.. 12:20:15 <Celestar> diff looks good 12:22:36 <Darkvater> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=532413#532413 12:22:37 <Darkvater> lol 12:22:45 <Darkvater> a moriarty 12:23:09 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 12:23:24 <hylje> totally 12:24:07 <hylje> would be cool to extend the build-anything-anywhere stuff.. but theres more important stuff to be had first 12:28:59 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F2C6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:29:08 <Celestar> merge merge merge :P 12:32:34 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176096178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 12:32:49 <Brianetta> Darkvater: You killed all other threads by posting about RC1 12:32:57 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:33:34 <Darkvater> Brianetta: doesn't seem though people are spamming that thread ;) 12:34:03 <Brianetta> Christmas release (: 12:34:07 <Brianetta> I'm on a train tomorrow 12:34:14 <Brianetta> from before sunrise till well after lunch 12:35:11 <Darkvater> doesn't sound too good unless it's going home to parents :) 12:35:27 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp0-126.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:36:25 <Darkvater> http://tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29135&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= 12:36:28 <Darkvater> wtf? 12:38:41 <io]nowhere> omg hax!!! 12:39:52 *** Celestar [~Jadzia_Da@galadriel.td.mw.tum.de] has joined #openttd 12:39:53 <Celestar> argh 12:40:01 <Celestar> that was'nt the power cable of the monitor 12:40:42 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: no DCC? 12:42:09 <Celestar> merge merge merge 12:42:31 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: http://tokai.binaryriot.org/openttd-0.5.0-RC1-morphos.diff (the stdfax one is a bit weird, i wonder why it works for the nightlies... here uint is defined already in sys/types.h) 12:43:41 <Celestar> stupid pgcalc 12:44:13 <Celestar> it has a fixed char for the decimal operator 12:44:21 <Celestar> instead of whatever is set in the regional settings 12:44:27 <peter1138> back 12:47:50 <Darkvater> back 12:48:03 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: lemme see 12:48:08 <Darkvater> lol Celestar 12:48:46 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: is that all? 12:49:19 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: yeah... didn't found other issues yet. basically the last one fixes build for me.. and i activated the os timer to get rid of the warning:) 12:49:33 <Darkvater> does the OS timer work? 12:49:46 <tokai|noir> it worked when i tested it with bjarni ages ago 12:49:54 <Darkvater> oh he, it should __POWERPC__ __powerpc__ 12:50:01 <Darkvater> pretty stupid that lowercase define 12:50:09 <tokai|noir> __POWERPC__ is a apple only thing it seems 12:50:18 <peter1138> o_O 12:50:20 <Celestar> hm 12:50:35 <peter1138> /* rdtsc for PPC which has this not */ 12:50:37 <peter1138> yoda? 12:50:37 <tokai|noir> here __powerpc__ and __PPC__ works. on osx only __POWERPC__ 12:50:38 <Celestar> are "__func__" and "__line__" compliler-specific? 12:51:14 <peter1138> do i go home, or stay here? 12:51:35 <Celestar> you'll stay at work at least as long as me 12:51:38 <Celestar> :) 12:52:49 <Darkvater> peter1138: I will not take advantage of you by saying you should stay because you have no conn at home, but it's crhistmas so you should go home 12:53:03 <Celestar> you have no conn at home? 12:53:07 * Celestar chaines peter1138 to his desk 12:53:10 <Darkvater> and perhaps...come back on monday with fully working newgrf support 12:53:43 <peter1138> monday? 12:53:46 <peter1138> but...! 12:53:53 <Celestar> monday is a day off 12:53:54 <Darkvater> no buts! 12:54:12 <Darkvater> this is not a charity organisation! 12:54:13 <Noldo> peter1138: monday of some week 12:54:27 <Celestar> ok 12:54:33 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: ah.. maybe you can put a dummy README.txt to scenario/heightmaps/ like the one directly in scenarios/ on svn. Thank you:) 12:54:45 <Celestar> peter1138: you may go but you need to give go or no-go for merge first :P 12:55:31 <peter1138> me? 12:55:39 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: and the README in scenarios needs a typo fix "You can place *your* scenarios in this dir." ;) 12:55:42 <Celestar> you're a dev, you may veto 12:56:00 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: nah... Rubidium will merge makefile rewrite and it'll magically work 12:56:28 <tokai|noir> for 0.5.0 non-RC already? 12:57:03 <Darkvater> no, but 0.5.0 final will have scenarios 12:57:41 <tokai|noir> well.. the problem is makefile chokes on the empty heightmap directory :) just scenarios won't help :P 12:58:45 <tokai|noir> (i added a dummy README now, its less work than to build the archive manually ;) 13:03:29 <Celestar> peter1138: and now what? 13:04:40 <peter1138> hmm? 13:05:21 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:07:23 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 13:09:56 * Celestar thinks peter1138 doesn't care about a merge, find :P 13:14:14 <Darkvater> Celestar: http://darkvater.openttd.org/bridges.txt 13:14:31 <Darkvater> only style comments or questions, none whatsoever about how it works cause I have no idea 13:14:33 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: another small diff: http://tokai.binaryriot.org/openttd-0.5.0-RC1-morphos2.diff 13:14:41 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 13:14:48 <Celestar> Darkvater: I know it :) 13:15:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-191.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:16:38 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N847P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:56 *** mrno [~noone@d5152F30B.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 13:16:57 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: I'll wait till you are done :) 13:17:11 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: i'm done. uploading archive to sf.net 13:17:12 <CIA-1> KUDr * r7547 /trunk/station_cmd.c: 13:17:12 <CIA-1> -Fix: The cost of rail station removal was calculated based on the area occupied 13:17:12 <CIA-1> by the station. This produced unreasonably large removal costs for non-uniform 13:17:12 <CIA-1> stations. Now it is based on number of station tiles actually removed. 13:17:27 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: what does the makefile change do? just adds heightmapp support? 13:17:40 <Celestar> Darkvater: rail.c: if (a) b on one line 13:17:43 <Celestar> cannot find this ... 13:17:43 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 13:17:48 <Celestar> KUDr_wrk: nooooo :P 13:17:49 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: yes.. and ignores errors in case there are no scenarios or heightmaps 13:18:13 <KUDr> Celestar: why? still merging? 13:18:37 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N821P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:18:58 <Darkvater> Celestar: he me neither ;p 13:19:11 <Darkvater> oh wait yes 13:19:15 <Darkvater> + if (GetBridgeTransportType(tile) == TRANSPORT_RAIL) { 13:19:16 <Darkvater> + return GetRailType(tile); } 13:19:26 <Darkvater> if (a == transport_rail) return type; 13:19:29 <Celestar> checking 13:19:35 <Celestar> KUDr: yes, but it's no problem 13:19:39 <Darkvater> look at the diff 13:20:07 <Celestar> found it 13:20:08 <KUDr> Celestar: here this merge took 30 seconds 13:20:11 <Celestar> twice even 13:21:58 <Celestar> Darkvater: // on the bridge ramp, switch(dir) after that.. is default ever reachable? 13:22:09 <Celestar> DiagDir has more than 4 possible values 13:23:28 <Darkvater> ah 13:23:33 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: a889e91481c6246bc91efb0cc275e115 openttd-0.5.0-RC1-morphos.lha (in incoming/ ) 13:23:45 <Darkvater> but you're saying all others are also acceptable and get casted to dir NE? 13:23:47 <tokai|noir> now off for food 13:23:47 <Darkvater> or whatever it is 13:24:44 <Celestar> Darkvater: all others are "DIAGDIR_INVALID" and "DIAGDIR_END" 13:24:49 <Darkvater> Celestar: at least put a default: NOT_REACHED(); there 13:24:50 <Celestar> Darkvater: it should not happen 13:25:13 <Celestar> Darkvater: good idea 13:25:17 <Darkvater> your unconditional usage of default: is only there to 1. condone errors and 2. surpress possible warnings 13:25:22 <Darkvater> both of those are bad reasons 13:25:59 <Celestar> it's Trons work ;) 13:26:29 <Darkvater> not an excuse :) 13:26:38 <Celestar> true 13:27:26 <Celestar> Darkvater: this != stuff is in all of misc.c 13:27:51 <Darkvater> which oen? 13:28:42 <Celestar> for (i = 0; i != size;) 13:29:21 <Darkvater> ah 13:29:26 <Darkvater> well if it worked so far... 13:29:27 <Celestar> I agree that it is bad 13:29:38 <Celestar> Darkvater: it works because map sizes are powers of two 13:29:42 <Darkvater> wgethttp://belnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/openttd/openttd-0.5.0-RC1-morphos.lha 13:29:45 <Darkvater> eh 13:29:47 <Celestar> ROFLAMO 13:29:58 <Celestar> a colleague wanted to send an Xmas card via email 13:30:07 <Celestar> he accidently pasted a p0rn link 13:30:08 <Celestar> :S 13:31:21 <Celestar> do we place breaks after NOT_REACHED() ? 13:32:11 <Darkvater> no don't or you'll get a warning in the cases where defealt was put on top 13:34:06 <Celestar> right 13:34:31 <Celestar> ok 13:34:33 <Celestar> fixed that stuff up 13:34:43 <Celestar> apart from the pathfind.c. 13:34:50 <Celestar> I will investigate this over the weekend 13:36:18 <Jango> g'morning 13:36:28 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176096178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 13:38:43 <Celestar> ok I'm going shopping in 5 minutes 13:39:10 <Celestar> merge postponed 13:41:47 <Darkvater> tokai|noir: added 13:42:19 <Celestar> bye Darkvater 13:42:22 <Celestar> you online tonight? 13:42:37 <Darkvater> after 10PM yes 13:42:53 <Celestar> ok possible we could wrap that up tonight? 13:43:38 <Darkvater> z'he merge? 13:43:49 <Celestar> ay 13:43:55 <Darkvater> I might have time to test it a little 13:44:03 <Celestar> you want a diff? :) 13:44:07 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886C13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:44:13 <Darkvater> peter's already good :) 13:44:13 <Celestar> but ok I didn't change stuff here so just use the branch 13:44:17 <Darkvater> unless you made functional changes 13:44:22 <Darkvater> or he 13:44:23 <Celestar> no I didn't 13:44:27 <Celestar> neither did he 13:44:28 <Darkvater> I'll just switch to branhc 13:44:33 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 13:44:33 <Born_Acorn> !logs 13:44:38 <Darkvater> but you did do my changes right? 13:44:40 <Celestar> yeah 13:44:44 <Steve14> thx for the nice christmas present ;D 13:44:49 <Celestar> all of them apart from the pathfind stuff 13:44:50 <tokai|noir> Darkvater: thx 13:44:51 <Celestar> cu 13:47:37 <Darkvater> bye :) 13:47:43 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 13:48:07 <Born_Acorn> omg omg omg 13:48:21 <Born_Acorn> 11:24:41 < CIA-1> celestar * r7542 /branches/bridge/ (24 files in 7 dirs): [bridge] Sync with trunk r7525:7541 and prepare for merge (sync savegame revisions) 13:48:31 <Born_Acorn> prepare for merge? 13:48:32 <Born_Acorn> woo! 13:49:38 <Biff> what are you merging? 13:49:46 <hylje> bridgebranch 13:50:01 <Biff> where can i read about that / what is that? 13:50:34 <hylje> magical bridges. check it out from svn (pun intentional) 13:50:36 <Born_Acorn> It basically allows bridges over a lot more things 13:50:43 <Born_Acorn> like signals 13:50:46 <Born_Acorn> and diagonal rails 13:50:49 <Born_Acorn> and junctions 13:51:03 <Biff> ah, sweet 13:51:12 <Jango> different countries 13:51:17 <Jango> wrong window :/ 13:52:21 <Born_Acorn> I forget, but I think it can go over "flat" stations 13:52:23 <Jango> do AI do special stuff with bridges too? 13:52:31 <Jango> or do they do old-style 13:52:40 <Born_Acorn> (ie, non glass hall stations) 13:53:07 <Born_Acorn> It depends, does the AI build track up to things which it can't build bridges over? 13:53:17 <hylje> it can? neat 13:53:33 <hylje> could make some interesting stations 13:53:49 <Jango> i suppose it's quite easy to make flat stations if necessary 13:53:55 <Born_Acorn> hylje, I'm not sure. It was at least like that at one stage 13:54:03 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:54:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:54:17 <Born_Acorn> At one stage bridges went over bridges 13:54:25 <Born_Acorn> There were screenshots somewhere 13:55:46 <peter1138> tum te tum 13:57:40 <Jango> dum de doo 13:58:19 <Born_Acorn> Ooh 13:58:22 <Born_Acorn> That reminds me. 13:58:33 <Born_Acorn> I'd better update the Current events on t'wiki 13:59:17 <Biff> Born_Acorn: hmm, its a bit weird for gameplay if it can only go over flat stations 13:59:17 <Jango> that'd be good - it's surprisingly difficult to work out what's going on if you don't read IRC/forums 13:59:22 <Jango> we need a digest! 14:01:14 <Born_Acorn> Biff, the glass hall stations are too "tall" 14:01:32 <peter1138> they're about 4 or 5 height levels too tall, or something 14:01:33 <Born_Acorn> besides, I'm not sure if they are still allowed over flat stations 14:01:44 <Born_Acorn> ask peter1138, he's "in the know" 14:01:45 <Born_Acorn> ! 14:01:47 <Biff> Born_Acorn: yup, true, but then people will have to create many flat stations next to each other 14:01:53 <Biff> if they want a bridge over it 14:02:16 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: lies 14:02:20 <peter1138> Born_Acorn: btw 14:02:30 <Born_Acorn> Or they could create a flat bit in the middle of the glass hall station 14:02:34 <peter1138> i like your volunteering for keeping the roadmaps up to date :D 14:02:41 <Born_Acorn> I'm not in the know! 14:03:04 <peter1138> you're in the know now... ahhh ahhhahhh you're in the know.... now 14:03:56 <Jango> am i right in thinking that RC2 will contain bridge stuff whereas RC1 didn't? 14:04:10 <glx> Jango: no 14:04:42 <Jango> ? 14:04:49 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 14:07:02 *** YogSothoth [~john@lns-bzn-23-82-248-96-40.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 14:08:02 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #openttd 14:10:53 <Born_Acorn> As the history of OpenTTD development teaches us, 14:11:08 <Born_Acorn> The biggest features come into trunk just after the last release 14:11:24 <Darkvater> OMG he's unto us! 14:11:27 <Born_Acorn> It's awkward like that. :p 14:11:45 <Jango> 5.0 isn't released :P 14:11:48 <Jango> RC1 is released 14:12:04 <Darkvater> hmm what is a good font for the newspaper? 14:12:18 <Jango> so i was merely hoping you hadn't gone against standard dev principles :) 14:12:19 <glx> Jango: the features included in 0.5.0 won't change 14:12:21 <Jango> Darkvater, courier new? 14:12:26 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 14:12:43 <Born_Acorn> 0.5.0 is now (or usually is) contained in a shiny branch 14:12:44 <Jango> times new roman? 14:12:53 <Darkvater> times nr wasn't so good 14:12:57 <Born_Acorn> Safe from any trunk merging. :p 14:13:12 <Jango> office 11 beta (or whatever it is) has some nice new fonts 14:15:33 <helb> Darkvater: What about Georgia? 14:15:52 <Born_Acorn> Kremlin! 14:16:17 <Born_Acorn> http://mbdown.mbsky.com/font/english/2006/01/K/Kremlin.jpg <-- Kremlin! 14:16:31 <helb> http://www.dafont.com/kremlin.font <-- this? 14:16:55 <helb> yes :) 14:17:08 <Darkvater> he 14:17:50 <valhallasw> kremlin.. is that the defcon ofnt? 14:18:00 <Born_Acorn> Yes, it is. :p 14:18:02 * Darkvater sticks to courier new bold 14:22:26 <peter1138> burp 14:23:35 <helb> But Courier is non-proportional. That isn't good for the newspaper I think... 14:25:11 <Born_Acorn> I wonder how many people aren't even aware that they could change fonts. 14:25:21 * Darkvater pats peter1138 14:25:25 <Born_Acorn> I am aware, but don't know how. :p 14:25:34 <Darkvater> so which font to use? 14:26:57 * Darkvater removes 10 strings from english.txt 14:26:58 <Darkvater> ^^ 14:27:24 <peter1138> hmm? 14:27:36 <Darkvater> bjarni's sell all confirmation 14:27:39 <peter1138> ahh 14:27:58 <Darkvater> changing to normal question window 14:28:02 <Born_Acorn> I haven't even been able to locate any documentation on it. D: 14:28:15 <Darkvater> I mean...come on there are two buttons 'sell' and 'cancel' 14:28:25 <peter1138> Yes / No 14:28:31 <Darkvater> they all have tips like 'sell all trains/troad..' and 'do not sell all train/road...' 14:28:34 <Darkvater> insane 14:28:40 <peter1138> o_O 14:28:56 *** LadyHawk- [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:29:00 *** LadyHawk [here@82-47-23-153.cable.ubr02.dudl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:29:00 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 14:29:51 <helb> Darkvater: http://www.stormtype.com/free.html 14:30:23 * Darkvater looks for the font that most resembles the ttd one 14:30:32 <Darkvater> hmm that's not so bad 14:31:21 <Darkvater> so eh how do I download? 14:31:23 <Born_Acorn> Oh, and after 30 seconds of looking myself, I figure it out 14:31:28 <Darkvater> it says 0 eur, and 'buy'? 14:31:37 <helb> Sacro: This was originally designed for czech newspaper "Lidove noviny", but never used, I think. 14:31:40 <helb> eh 14:31:43 <helb> Darkvater: ^^ 14:31:51 <helb> Sacro: Sorry. :) 14:32:04 * Born_Acorn attempts Kremlin 14:32:31 <Born_Acorn> ooh. shiny 14:32:57 <helb> Darkvater: Download here: http://www.dafont.com/lido-stf-ce.font 14:33:17 <Darkvater> which one is that? 14:33:21 <Darkvater> ah 14:33:31 <helb> They are zipped together... 14:33:52 <helb> http://img.dafont.com/download/?os=win&file=lido_stf_ce 14:34:03 <Darkvater> why can't they make a single font? eg TTC 14:34:04 <Darkvater> :( 14:34:49 <helb> dunno 14:34:56 <Born_Acorn> Is it possible to get OpenTTD to start "Maximised"? 14:35:23 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886C13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:25 <Born_Acorn> It always seems to take up the whole screen, except the bottom toolbar is under the taskbar 14:36:08 <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: yes maximize openttd and shut down in maximized mode 14:36:15 <Darkvater> Born_Acorn: next time you start it will be maximize 14:36:17 <Darkvater> d 14:36:37 <Darkvater> or just open openttd.cfg and set it there 14:36:53 <Born_Acorn> It is, but it seems to never be 14:37:08 <Born_Acorn> Oh well, it's not exactly "important". 14:37:16 <Born_Acorn> I can just press Maximise myself. :p 14:37:36 <Born_Acorn> Ooh, Town names look good when "Arial 14:37:37 <Born_Acorn> " 14:38:09 <Darkvater> wtf..indeed 14:38:13 <Darkvater> but it worked :( 14:38:20 *** Digitalfox [~digi@bl7-185-80.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:38:21 <Born_Acorn> Its a shame they become buggered at the smallest zoom 14:38:22 * helb simply uses "remember" function in his WM for OTTD window size :) 14:38:50 <Darkvater> something broke it :( 14:38:50 <Darkvater> bleh 14:39:14 <Born_Acorn> It'd be cool if town names stayed the same size for all zoom levels 14:39:22 <Digitalfox> Hi everyone!! 14:39:30 <Darkvater> the kremlin font is no good 14:39:31 <Born_Acorn> since they only expand and contract by about ten pixels anyway 14:39:34 <Darkvater> it's only ascii 14:39:43 <Digitalfox> How can i know how muth sprites my savegames are using?? 14:40:06 <Born_Acorn> Yeah, theres nothing but letters, exclamation mark and a question mark 14:41:12 <helb> Lido font has been designed here in Czech Republic, so there are accents too... 14:41:23 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:25 <Digitalfox> When i mean savegames, i also mean my newgrf configuration 14:43:32 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:44:20 <Sacro> someone called? 14:45:05 <helb> Sacro: I'm sorry, i mistyped... 14:45:52 <Sacro> ah it happens 14:46:06 <Sacro> i cant tab complete your name 14:46:10 <Sacro> just comes up with hel 14:46:20 <Sacro> wtf 14:46:33 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [Leaving] 14:46:37 <helb> Dunno... It's working fine for me. 14:46:38 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:46:43 <Sacro> how strange 14:46:44 <helb> [15:45:11] <helb> Dunno... It's working fine for me. 14:47:02 <helb> (X-chat 2.6.9 @ Gentoo) 14:47:16 <helb> Ah.. 2.6.8 :) 14:48:52 *** tosse [tosse@tosse.pp.se] has joined #openttd 14:51:45 <Born_Acorn> Oh noes! 14:51:53 <Born_Acorn> All the stickies are gone! 14:51:56 <Born_Acorn> Forever! 14:51:57 <Born_Acorn> D: 14:52:08 <Darkvater> wtf... MSVC2003 compiled project doesn't do maximized?? 14:52:17 <Darkvater> hmm I'll need to look into this tonight 14:58:55 *** Digitalfox [~digi@bl7-185-80.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:17 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp0-126.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [Quit: Aloysha] 15:06:36 <CIA-1> Darkvater * r7548 /trunk/ (Makefile os_timer.c readme.txt stdafx.h): -Codechange: Some MorphOS changes to get OpenTTD compiled, packaged (tokai) 15:11:28 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B81AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:11:35 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81AD5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:07 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:14:12 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82F6B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:14:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:22:09 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:53 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 15:29:39 <Darkvater> 1.0-9746 for Linux x86/x86-64 released 15:29:39 <Darkvater> he 15:29:51 <Darkvater> a *huge* jump in versioning and what d you get? 15:29:55 <Darkvater> Added support for GeForce 8800 GTS and GeForce 8800 GTX boards. 15:30:04 * Darkvater waves hands half-heartedly 15:30:30 <Biff> Darkvater: nvidia-drivers? 15:30:50 <Darkvater> ye 15:30:51 <Darkvater> s 15:30:53 <Biff> ah 15:31:04 <helb> hmm 15:31:16 * Darkvater goes home 15:31:24 <helb> i hate my f*cking radeon :X 15:33:09 <Naksu> Darkvater: it's still WAY better than the competition 15:35:01 <Biff> oh well, i'll install the new drivers then 15:35:09 <Biff> running beta 9742 or something now 15:35:17 <Biff> since 96xx was broken 15:38:50 <Biff> there 15:41:52 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:47:15 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090B848.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:20:48 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 18:33:15 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886C13.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:35:16 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:47:13 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176096178.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 18:54:52 <Born_Acorn> orudge, disable red. :p 18:55:08 * peter1138 disables Born_Acorn 18:55:15 <Born_Acorn> peter1138! newhouses! 18:55:28 <peter1138> lies! 18:57:40 <peter1138> damn 18:57:44 <peter1138> nvidia-glx update 18:57:55 <peter1138> but it needs a 35MB download for a new kernel too :/ 18:58:43 <peter1138> 0% [1 linux-image-2.6.20-2-386 149680/22.1MB 0%] 2505B/s 3h49m17s 18:58:52 <peter1138> 0% [1 linux-image-2.6.20-2-386 171580/22.1MB 0%] 3157B/s 3h1m49s 18:58:57 <valhallasw> apt \o/ 18:59:03 <valhallasw> try a better server ;) 18:59:14 <peter1138> :(dgah 18:59:19 <Biff> peter1138: modem? 18:59:19 <Biff> :P 18:59:34 <peter1138> silly latency 19:01:57 *** Hadez_away [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:04:48 *** Ailure [~Coming@h195n5c1o912.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 19:06:06 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-140-204-138.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:07:51 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p54886C13.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:09:31 <Darkvater> orudge: it doesn't look THAT bad..I have tt-theme as well; although your red looks much better 19:09:49 <orudge> It looks bad to my eyes, anyway :p 19:10:42 <peter1138> i use the other theme, heh 19:11:35 *** Hadez_away [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 19:12:39 <Ailure> ick 19:12:41 <Darkvater> peter1138: sub-silver? 19:12:53 <Ailure> I forgot how croweded the vechiles section of the configure patch window is 19:12:59 <Darkvater> I alwys hated the tt-theme but now with the christmas style applied to it I kind like it 19:13:21 *** Hadez_away is now known as Hadez 19:13:43 <peter1138> damn, newcargos is massive ;( 19:14:48 <Ailure> I wish the add grf window didn't close itself as soon you add a GRF 19:17:18 <Sacro> ooh newcargoes! 19:22:47 * orudge gets OS/2 set up for building OS/2 19:24:08 <Ailure> wait whaty 19:24:12 <Ailure> OS/2? 19:24:14 <Ailure> :o 19:24:18 <Ailure> people still use it? 19:24:30 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 19:25:39 <orudge> Some people do, yes. 19:28:34 <io]nowhere> wtf? OS/2?! 19:28:42 <io]nowhere> i thought they locked them all up? 19:28:44 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [] 19:32:52 <Born_Acorn> Nah, the prison would cost too much for too little. 19:33:10 <Born_Acorn> No Sacro, newcargos! 19:33:43 <Born_Acorn> orudge should keep the Christmas theme all year round! 19:33:48 <Born_Acorn> but as an "Arctic Theme!" 19:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> new car goes? you better hope so ;p 19:33:57 <Born_Acorn> and minus the chrisitmas smilies 19:34:09 <Born_Acorn> and also, a Sub-Tropical Theme! 19:34:43 * Sacro cuts off Born_Acorn's sub tropicals 19:34:48 <Ailure> I probably bribe him into making a toy climate one 19:35:23 <Born_Acorn> Nah, orudge'd be sued 19:35:28 <orudge> Born_Acorn: then it'd be no novelty at Christmas. 19:35:34 <orudge> Ailure: one already exists. 19:35:38 <Born_Acorn> Making people blind is a criminal offence! 19:36:58 * Sacro flashes Born_Acorn 19:37:06 <Born_Acorn> We'd also remove the snow flakes and holly 19:37:12 <Born_Acorn> As thats Christmassy! 19:37:37 <Ailure> orudge: Let me guess, april fools day? 19:37:45 <Sacro> ZOMG PONIES 19:38:01 <Sacro> ^_^ 19:38:07 <Ailure> I don't see why people hate toy climate 19:38:14 <Ailure> the vehicles are a little bit weaker and more annoyign to use 19:38:18 <Sacro> it makes eye bleedage 19:38:20 <Ailure> but otherwise i don't mind the graphics or sound 19:38:32 <Sacro> ooh pizza time 19:40:03 <orudge> Ailure: Easter. 19:40:09 * orudge hasn't used it in a few years, though 19:40:16 <orudge> To be honest, I forgot about it until recently 19:41:25 <Ailure> :) 19:41:31 <Ailure> I wouldn't mind seeing it again 19:41:49 <Sacro> my pizza burnt :( 19:41:49 <orudge> Ah, how convenient, Subversion for OS/2 was ported by the very same Paul Smedley who made OpenTTD work with OS/2 GCC ;) 19:42:06 <io]nowhere> Sacro> my pizza burnt :( <- unburn it? 19:42:46 <orudge> Tesco Value, Sacro? 19:43:02 <Sacro> io]nowhere: how? 19:43:05 <Sacro> orudge: no, asda 19:43:08 <orudge> :o 19:43:09 <orudge> heretic! 19:44:09 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:44:30 <Sacro> pizza, garlic bread, dr pepper and the sugababes... nice 19:46:02 *** PandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: PandaMojo] 19:51:41 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has joined #openttd 19:57:14 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F187.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:59:23 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090B848.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:03:56 <Born_Acorn> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Unicode <-- Woo. 20:04:56 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.170.197] has joined #openttd 20:06:33 <Born_Acorn> Now theres only one Uncategorised article on the Wiki! 20:06:37 <Born_Acorn> *category 20:06:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> orudge: if there are only 5 OS/2 users worldwide, it is no wonder that the same names pop up over and over ;) 20:06:53 <orudge> Arial Bold may be better, Born_Acorn! 20:07:08 <Born_Acorn> peter1138, what'd be the name for such a NewGRF article you want me to make? 20:08:14 <Sacro> Born_Acorn! newsounds! 20:08:25 <Born_Acorn> That doesn't need a NewGRF article 20:08:35 <Born_Acorn> since they happen automatically 20:08:37 <Born_Acorn> :p 20:08:52 <Born_Acorn> but peter1138's NewGRF GUIwork does 20:08:59 <Born_Acorn> due to all the nooks and crannies it has 20:09:37 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> Born_Acorn: the small font looks kinda screwed (newspaper date) 20:10:28 <Born_Acorn> Yes, I explained that most fonts are poor small fonts 20:11:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> where? 20:11:12 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=9817&highlight=bestpostever 20:11:13 <Born_Acorn> woo 20:11:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> not on this page 20:11:28 <Born_Acorn> "Be aware that most fonts make a poor small font, while other fonts may not make good medium or large sizes." 20:11:41 <Born_Acorn> It's at the bottom of the text 20:11:43 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:11:54 <orudge> I still think you should use Wingdings, Born_Acorn1 20:12:08 <Born_Acorn> That'd be madness! 20:12:52 <Born_Acorn> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=175322#175322 <-- Giggle 20:13:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> i think someone should prepare a set of "recommended" fonts 20:13:54 <FlashFF> rofl born 20:14:23 *** WolfAngel [~wolfangel@83.73.168.209.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has quit [Quit: '$quit.msg' (without quotes).] 20:15:30 <hylje> yay 20:19:23 <Sacro> "I'm not that stupid to set up different ip adresses to all pc's in my home becouse it will make a lot of ip conflicts in our whole city and our internet provider would be very angry becouse we are suppoed to only have one ip:192.168.0.1" 20:19:24 <Sacro> hehehe 20:20:20 <Born_Acorn> I wonder if his Router complains of all of them sharing the same IP. :p 20:21:47 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-239.46.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:35 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-152.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 20:24:23 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:25:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> Born_Acorn: maybe you should also mention newgrf fonts (like russianw.grf) 20:25:24 <Born_Acorn> I know little of how that all works. 20:25:34 <Born_Acorn> I'd rather someone who does make a note of it 20:25:44 <Born_Acorn> with explanations of how to get them working, etc. 20:25:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> like any other newgrf 20:26:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> put them in [newgrf-static] section, to override the newgrfs for all savegames 20:27:32 <Born_Acorn> Hold on, I'm a bit busy with other articles 20:32:41 <orudge> Bah 20:32:44 * orudge can't get this thing to build 20:33:11 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 20:35:40 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:35:57 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:37:25 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:37:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49:26 *** Loke15 [~Loke@ti221110a080-5700.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 20:49:28 <Loke15> hey 20:58:38 <Born_Acorn> Hmm. It'd be cool if every airport had two styles, one as it is now, and another with freight buildings 20:59:23 *** Hadez [~chatzilla@151.244.broadband7.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0/0000000000]] 21:00:09 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:02:03 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp0-126.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:56 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp0-126.lns1.syd7.internode.on.net] has quit [] 21:09:04 <Ben_> hi, is there anyreason not much has come of this, and there was next to no discusiion? I havn't been following the nightly builds, but just played the new release (thanks to all for that), and its still the same 'problem'. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=28238 21:09:15 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CE08.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 21:10:40 <io]nowhere> wtf there is a train called super-turbo on my server? 21:11:05 <Born_Acorn> I don't think so. 21:11:12 <Born_Acorn> But keep on Poking peter1138! 21:11:24 <Born_Acorn> As he's the Two Company Colour GUI dude! 21:11:49 <glx> but he doesn't have internet at home 21:11:57 <io]nowhere> how can that be the sh30 has become Super-Turbo? 21:12:12 <Sacro> isnt the super turbo the beachy one? 21:12:22 <io]nowhere> wait ill upload a screenshot 21:13:30 <Ben_> Born_Acorn: alright, any idea what sort of times hes online? 21:13:48 <Born_Acorn> Usually during Weekdays 21:13:51 <Born_Acorn> when he's at work 21:14:14 <glx> (british time) 21:14:43 <io]nowhere> http://www.imzers.com/super-turbo.png <- there it is.... 21:15:43 <Ben_> alright, cheers, I'll persist when hes around 21:17:22 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N821P031.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:53 <Born_Acorn> Looks like a Custom Name 21:18:19 <io]nowhere> well I never set it 21:18:22 <Born_Acorn> Go to options, and change "Vehicle Design Names" to Default 21:18:23 <io]nowhere> some other player did it? 21:18:33 <Born_Acorn> I think it's Client Side, so no. 21:18:45 <hylje> Born_Acorn: its universal 21:18:56 <Born_Acorn> I am mistaken. 21:19:00 <Born_Acorn> Someone else did it 21:19:15 <io]nowhere> ok so someone can change train names for all people :) ? 21:19:45 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N816P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 21:20:20 <io]nowhere> btw I haven't found the vehicle design names yet, where should I look under options? 21:21:37 <io]nowhere> waith I have found it 21:21:58 <io]nowhere> thanks it worked 21:25:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B811F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:28:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8283A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:28:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 21:29:01 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 21:29:32 <Sacro> grrr... cant build a src.rpm 21:29:38 * Sacro curses the devs 21:36:41 <Gonozal_VIII> super turbo trains? i have trains with 1150 km/h here 21:38:34 <io]nowhere> :) 21:38:57 <hylje> :o 21:39:02 <Gonozal_VIII> seems to be some kind of bug, they accelerate when they enter the station 21:44:41 <io]nowhere> hacks 21:53:38 <Ailure> hehe 21:53:42 <hylje> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006590414,00.html 21:53:44 <Ailure> I was just wondering why I had so slow trains 21:53:50 <Ailure> saw that I forgot to change the mph setting 21:53:54 <Ailure> i'm used to km/h D: 21:53:59 <hylje> change it to SI 21:54:04 <hylje> and you get even slower trains 21:54:08 <hylje> *cough* 21:54:16 <Gonozal_VIII> m/s? 21:54:22 <hylje> yes 21:56:01 <Darkvater> Ben_: your very small request for busses next to text in a dropdown menu is a *LOT* of work 21:58:41 <Gonozal_VIII> textcolor instead of busses? 22:01:05 <Ailure> I want a lightyears option 22:01:06 <Ailure> D: 22:01:12 <Ailure> eh 22:01:19 <Ailure> lightyears per hour ololol 22:02:12 *** C20XE [~moonlight@62.68.61.4] has joined #openttd 22:02:29 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:46 <Gonozal_VIII> parsec per day :-) 22:02:49 *** C20XE is now known as Anark1 22:02:52 *** pecisk [~pecisk@purvc-44-54.maksinets.lv] has quit [Quit: J?iet prom] 22:03:13 <hylje> Heading for Footown 1.05702341 × 10-11 lightyears per hour 22:03:55 <hylje> 1.05 * 10^-11 22:04:07 *** Anark1 [~moonlight@62.68.61.4] has left #openttd [] 22:04:10 <hylje> google calc owns 22:05:04 <Wolf01> 'night all 22:05:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.14.238.101] has quit [] 22:06:46 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-209-205.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:06:49 *** PandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-223-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:11:12 <Born_Acorn> The good old Sun 22:11:25 <Born_Acorn> "Santa Dies in front of kids", when he dies in a side room. 22:11:31 <Born_Acorn> Away from any kids. 22:18:02 *** Neonox [~Neonox@offb-590eac0a.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:34:20 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-163-13.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:35:18 <Ben_> Darkvater: Would it be smaller for the lettering to be coloured? 22:35:43 <glx> not easy to do either 22:36:10 <Darkvater> Ben_: not much smaller and it would look crappy as well 22:36:48 <Ben_> hmm, How come its a lot of work? Cause there used to be coloured buses there before, so its not a new idea, but the revival of an old 22:37:03 *** io]nowhere [~bla@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [] 22:37:19 <Born_Acorn> The GUI was totally reworked though, so all the widgety doodads and textifimajigs have been razzled. 22:37:51 <Darkvater> Ben_: this is a dropdown gui and it has totally different code from that of a simple window 22:38:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> give speeds in fractions of light speed, that'll be fun :p 22:38:07 <Darkvater> there is simply no support for drawing sprites in a dropdown list at th emoment 22:38:43 <Ben_> Darkvater: Is that the same for all drop down lists? 22:38:48 <Darkvater> yes 22:38:51 *** tobyobi [~tobyobi@ppp13-138.lns2.syd7.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 22:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> shouldn't it be possible to change the string from "Red" to "{RED}Red" or something? 22:39:14 <Ben_> Is it intended to changed at all? 22:39:28 <Darkvater> Eddi|zuHause2: uuugly rainbow :s 22:39:29 <Gonozal_VIII> that's what i thought 22:39:44 <Darkvater> Ben_: yes, it's probably on some todo list :) 22:40:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> or: "{Red}{<Somesquarecharacter>}{BLACK}Red" 22:41:08 <Gonozal_VIII> or even no text at all just colored squares... 22:41:14 <tobyobi> Are there any known issues with the RC1 OSX build? I just installed it and it doesn't start at all 22:41:24 <tobyobi> Half pops up in the dock and then disappears 22:41:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> blame bjarni ;) 22:41:42 <Ben_> Anything wich in some way uses colours and not words would be good, and I think keep to the picture like way TT usually displays things 22:41:57 <Darkvater> tobyobi: do you have all required files? 22:42:05 <Darkvater> Ben_: yes I agree, I liked those busses 22:42:09 <tobyobi> yeah, I previously had 0.4.8 running 22:42:30 <tobyobi> copied the data and GM folder out of that and into a new folder 22:42:37 <tobyobi> along with the new files 22:42:37 <Born_Acorn> Buses has one s! 22:42:44 <tobyobi> no, it has two. 22:42:44 <Rubidium> Darkvater: shouldn't the languages in lang/unfinished have svn:eol-style native also? 22:42:47 <tobyobi> just one in the middle ;) 22:43:00 <Born_Acorn> Thats what I mean! 22:43:02 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-163-13.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:43:10 <Born_Acorn> Somebody always says that. :( 22:43:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> tobyobi: do not overwrite any files in the data dir, only add the missing files 22:43:20 <tobyobi> Ummm 22:43:32 <tobyobi> the dmg had no existing data directory? 22:43:40 <Darkvater> Rubidium: probably, yes. But we don't care about those languages 22:43:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> it has to 22:43:44 <Born_Acorn> The same with newcargos! 22:43:46 <tobyobi> well, it does 22:43:50 <tobyobi> but it's inside the package 22:44:03 <Darkvater> tobyobi: can you run in debug mode? eg run the execuable with -d flag? 22:44:13 <tobyobi> lets see. 22:45:05 <Rubidium> those languages might end up in lang/ though 22:45:35 <Darkvater> don't want to flame MiHaMiX here but it would be either his job, or WT2's job to do this 22:45:42 <Darkvater> perhaps even on creation of these languages 22:45:59 <Rubidium> ok 22:46:19 <Darkvater> http://tweakers.net/meuktracker/14422/OpenTTD-0.5.0-RC1.html 22:46:20 <Darkvater> ;) 22:46:26 <Rubidium> saw that already :) 22:46:39 <tobyobi> Darkvater, toby-obriens-computer:/Applications/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.app/Contents/MacOS tobyobi$ ./openttd -d 22:46:39 <tobyobi> dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.1.dylib 22:46:39 <tobyobi> Referenced from: /Applications/OpenTTD/OpenTTD.app/Contents/MacOS/./openttd 22:46:39 <tobyobi> Reason: image not found 22:46:39 <tobyobi> Trace/BPT trap 22:47:07 <Darkvater> ah you miss fontconfig it seems... 22:47:52 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-152.85.126.206.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 22:47:56 <tobyobi> I'd take a stab, and say that a lot of OS X users won't have it 22:48:05 <Darkvater> solution is easy: install it 22:48:13 <tobyobi> well, yeah 22:48:14 <Darkvater> hmm, it's not default on OSX? 22:48:31 <tobyobi> but was there a change between 0.4.8 and 0.5.0 RC1 that requires it? 22:48:35 <tobyobi> because I don't believe it is 22:48:40 <Darkvater> do you know what you use to reference fonts by name? 22:48:48 <tobyobi> no idea 22:48:52 <tobyobi> I'm not that much of a developer 22:49:01 <Darkvater> it is optional, you don't need it. Seems bjarni thinks it's mandatory 22:49:29 <tobyobi> hrmm 22:49:39 <tobyobi> I might go back to the "old" version for the time being 22:49:40 <Darkvater> tobyobi: well for now, install fontconfig. We will think of something for the final (or RC2) 22:49:52 <Darkvater> tobyobi: sorry about that :( 22:49:59 <tobyobi> nah, it's alright 22:50:02 <tobyobi> happy to help make it better. 22:50:30 <Darkvater> fontconfig should be dynamically loaded 22:50:39 <Darkvater> hmm wait 22:50:45 <Darkvater> why isn't fontconfig static? 22:51:14 <tobyobi> no idea. 22:51:25 <Darkvater> or well it should either be static or dynamic and checked for on boot 22:51:43 <Darkvater> but none of us has an OSX so can't solve it :( 22:52:57 <tobyobi> Oh well, hopefully it gets fixed up for the final release 22:53:26 <Darkvater> if anything, it'll be disabled in the OSX binaries if it can't be fixed 22:53:28 *** Anonyme5528942 [~r.erwan@ADijon-152-1-109-191.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 22:53:32 <Darkvater> or bjarni hasno time to fix it 22:53:59 *** Anonyme5528942 [~r.erwan@ADijon-152-1-109-191.w86-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [] 22:54:15 <Darkvater> or I could..if someone donates a MAC :) 22:55:02 * Rubidium my brother once had a Mac, but that Mac won't run OSX 22:55:32 <Rubidium> hmm, shouldn't have used /me :) 22:56:09 <Darkvater> :) 22:56:10 <Born_Acorn> Get orudge to fix it! He has a maccy doodad 22:56:13 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-236.44.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 22:56:16 * Darkvater 's brother 22:56:24 * Born_Acorn signs orudge up for more projects! 22:56:41 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:42 <orudge> D: 22:56:48 <Darkvater> btw, I found a nice winAPI bug..I think 22:56:52 <Darkvater> http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1047298&SiteID=1 22:56:58 *** Nigel [~Nigel@202-154-144-120.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 23:01:07 *** Belugas [~jfranc@ip-236.44.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has joined #openttd 23:02:24 <Rubidium> peter1138: why is the newgrf_add_window GUI 7 pixels wider than the _newgrf_desc window? And why is the info window lower than the one in TTDPatch (as that causes overflows in the GUI for GRFs that would have fitted in TTDPatch and the 'specs' says it should fit in the TTDPatch GUI)? 23:04:15 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-236.44.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:05:24 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:05:33 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 23:09:36 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N816P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:09:38 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-163-13.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:10:51 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gono@N740P025.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:13:17 <Darkvater> Rubidium: he's not here ;) 23:13:40 <Darkvater> orudge: how come you can't get ottd compiled on OS/2? The flyspray guy got it working perfectly after I applied the 1 patch 23:13:48 <Rubidium> can't he read his backlogs when he got highlighted? 23:13:57 <Darkvater> does someone ever? 23:14:04 <Darkvater> pm's are better 23:14:24 <orudge> Darkvater: Getting the bloody build environment set up 23:14:28 * orudge has not succeeded 23:14:36 <Darkvater> he 23:14:42 <orudge> Half the links on the page he linked to don't work, and I haven't yet managed to find suitable replacements 23:16:11 <Darkvater> HA with the workaround for this bug, openttd works even bettter! 23:18:50 <peter1138> Rubidium: 1) the add window is based on the other file lists, not the desc window 23:19:06 <peter1138> 2) the info window is based on what fitted at the time. i've never seen ttdp's window 23:19:16 <Darkvater> omgz0rz he is here! 23:19:27 <Rubidium> me neither, just have read the asm :) 23:19:42 <peter1138> thief! 23:19:49 <peter1138> one better 23:19:53 <peter1138> i just ate pizza :D 23:20:01 <Darkvater> yamm 23:24:49 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@p50854EFB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:24:52 <DJGummikuh> hello folks 23:25:23 <DJGummikuh> can somebody give me either a quick refresh on the signal types OR give me the link where to find it? I'm kinda lost in your wiki 23:25:46 <Darkvater> gn everyone, have to be up early tomorrow :/ 23:26:11 <MeusH> goodnight 23:26:13 *** MeusH [~MeusH@host-ip18-138.crowley.pl] has quit [Quit: bye - quit] 23:26:20 <Rubidium> peter1138: what about http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/newgrf_gui_too_small.diff ? 23:26:23 <DJGummikuh> good night 23:26:50 *** Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.170.197] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:27:57 <Rubidium> the info part is in TTDPatch 10*10+3 (10 lines of height 10), but because we need an extra line with respect to TTDPatch I made it 11*10+3 high 23:28:50 <PandaMojo> Not that I actually care, but: newgrf_config.c:157: warning: format '%08X' expects type 'unsigned int', but argument 4 has type 'long unsigned int' 23:29:14 <izhirahider> Rubidium, that fixes my earlier report, nice 23:29:48 <Rubidium> PandaMojo: that's on OSX, right? 23:29:52 <PandaMojo> Yep. 23:30:03 <peter1138> that's an OSX port bug, that someone doesn't bother fixing... 23:30:12 <peter1138> who's out OSX maintainer again?> 23:30:15 <peter1138> *our 23:30:31 <PandaMojo> Bjarni, no? 23:31:16 <peter1138> who's that? :D 23:31:31 <PandaMojo> :3 23:31:46 <glx> PandaMojo: and do you care about 'deprecated' warnings? 23:31:57 <DJGummikuh> can somebody give me either a quick refresh on the signal types OR give me the link where to find it? I'm kinda lost in your wiki 23:32:18 <PandaMojo> glx: I used to, but then Microsoft depreciated most of the standard library. 23:32:24 <PandaMojo> (For when I code on Windows) 23:32:25 <PandaMojo> :P 23:32:28 <glx> DJGummikuh: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Signals 23:32:43 <Rubidium> DJGummikuh: http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Advanced_signal_placement 23:33:19 <glx> it's not that hard to find these pages in the wiki (there's a search function) 23:34:12 <peter1138> you generally have to know what you're looking for though 23:35:19 <peter1138> meh 23:35:22 <peter1138> it's painful 23:35:28 <peter1138> watching forum pages download 23:38:58 <peter1138> the screenshots threads are... awkward :( 23:39:26 <glx> you're crazy :D 23:40:55 <Rubidium> peter1138: any comments about my gui-enlarging patch? 23:41:30 <Prof_Frink> 3nl4rge y0ur GU1! 23:41:51 <peter1138> does the job, no? 23:42:20 <Rubidium> yes, but it is your 'baby' :) 23:43:10 <peter1138> su - 23:43:18 <peter1138> but not in this window 23:47:49 * Sacro gives peter1138 a root login shell 23:51:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F187.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:14 <CIA-1> rubidium * r7549 /trunk/newgrf_gui.c: -Fix (r7357): change the size of the NewGRF GUIs so any description of a GRF that is shown in TTDPatch without overflowing, does not overflow in OpenTTD.