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00:00:44 <DJGummikuh> I have two trains running the same run from a coal mine to a power plant. both wait for full load and then deliver. sometimes, one gets 10k for a full load and the other 50k (allthough the time difference isn 00:00:52 <DJGummikuh> 't that great) 00:00:56 <DJGummikuh> stupid keyboard 00:01:45 <DJGummikuh> apart from that, the train that gets the extra profit runs with "-123.000" profit - therfore I cannot purchase new planes or stuff with "not enough money" warning allthough I have no credit and enough money 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8274 /trunk/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp rail_gui.cpp): 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange (r8151): Move the automatic semaphore/signal checks inside the CMD_ 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: functions where they are supposed to be. Achieve this by adding a seperate bit 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: to p1/p2 to hold the CTRL-modifier. While here, use proper types, and 'unify' 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: the parameter bit-meanings. 0 - ctrl-pressed, 1 - signal/semaphore, 2-4 - 00:02:26 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: trackbits, 5 - remove (internal), 24-31 - drag density. 00:02:36 <Darkvater> DJGummikuh: so extra profit is extra negative profit? 00:02:55 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: actually I do not know.. the profit gets to my total account as positive profit 00:03:03 <Darkvater> and your problem's second part doesn't parse 00:03:05 <DJGummikuh> and the numbers are also green and without a - in front when they pop up over the train 00:03:19 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:03:24 <Darkvater> put up the savegame somewhere :) 00:03:41 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: hmm... you speak german perhaps? would be easier for me to state the problem 00:03:44 <DJGummikuh> my english isn 00:03:48 <DJGummikuh> WOAH THIS KEYBOARD 00:03:50 <Darkvater> no 00:03:57 <DJGummikuh> my english isn't that bad but I miss some words :) 00:04:15 <DJGummikuh> which idiot put the # UNDERNEATH the returnkey instead of left of it where it belongs? 00:05:49 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: http://djgummikuh.myftp.org/strange.sav 00:05:53 <DJGummikuh> the train I talk about is train5 00:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> [2007-01-19 01:00] <DJGummikuh> 't that great) 00:06:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> [2007-01-19 01:00] <DJGummikuh> stupid keyboard 00:06:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i had exactly that same problem yesterday ;) 00:06:54 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: oh so what I typed before wasn 00:06:56 <DJGummikuh> WARGS 00:06:59 <DJGummikuh> wasn't even sent? 00:07:03 <DJGummikuh> I 00:07:05 <DJGummikuh> >.< 00:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, it was 00:07:15 <DJGummikuh> I'm going to smash this stupid keyboard into the nearest wall 00:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i was referring to the ' next to [enter] thing 00:07:21 <DJGummikuh> ah ok :) 00:07:37 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: did you understand my problem? 00:08:09 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: did you get the link? nobody accessed that file yet 00:08:14 <DJGummikuh> ah nvm ^^ 00:08:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have no idea about that other problem of yours, but people have seen weird things with money lately 00:08:52 <Darkvater> whoo, instant-crash (assertion) 00:09:08 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: ooops? 00:09:14 <DJGummikuh> it 00:09:16 <Darkvater> nah, ai 00:09:21 <DJGummikuh> >.< 00:09:26 <DJGummikuh> it's the latest stable 00:09:34 <Darkvater> so what is the problem? 00:09:44 <DJGummikuh> one of the trains has MASSIVE negative profit.. 00:09:52 <DJGummikuh> and replacing of the vehicles with newer ones doesn't work 00:09:57 <DJGummikuh> it tells me I don't have enough money 00:10:03 <Darkvater> train #2 you mean? 00:10:17 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: I thought it'll be 5... lemme check again 00:10:25 <DJGummikuh> one of the trains that delivers the coal to the power plant 00:10:26 <Darkvater> trin #2 164.116 00:10:56 <Darkvater> your problem is that you are using 'transfer' and coal being transferred to the middle-station gets mixed with coal from the coal-mine next to it 00:11:10 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: it's -165.116 for me on train2! 00:11:12 <Darkvater> as there is no way to distinguish between 1 coal and 1 coal, all get the same source 00:11:14 <DJGummikuh> err 164 00:11:20 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:43 <Darkvater> and obviously you DON'T have enough money 00:11:52 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: yeah but even if I take a credit it's not enough 00:11:53 <Darkvater> you are replacing ginzu A4 to SH 8P 00:12:14 <DJGummikuh> I'm also replacing the planes to darts but even if I take 600k credit it's not enough 00:12:25 <Darkvater> one of those costs 61K and you have only 65K, autoreplace fails if your money goes below the limit specified in the patches window 00:12:38 <Darkvater> whihc is for you 200.000K 00:12:57 <DJGummikuh> err ok 00:13:21 <DJGummikuh> so it will be replaced when I reach 200k or take a credit to that value? 00:13:25 <Darkvater> and the first bug, with transfer, is unfixable until we get cargo-packets finished 00:13:34 <DJGummikuh> and how do I solve that mixed coal stuff? use unload instead of transfer? 00:13:45 <Darkvater> it will be replace when you have 200K + enough money to replace a train 00:13:49 *** TheMask97 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 00:13:50 <Darkvater> or change the 200K of course 00:13:54 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: aah ok 00:14:02 *** caladan_ [~caladan@161-be2-6.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 00:14:07 *** rubidium_ [rubidium@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 00:14:17 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: so what If I do unload instead of transer - will it have the same error or will it work then? 00:14:24 *** Netsplit osmosis.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: A1win, Nigel, egladil, Sionide, caladan, TheMask96, TSC, Rubidium, Smoovious 00:14:24 *** egladil_ibook [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 00:14:27 <Darkvater> DJGummikuh: you solve it by not mixing coal from Bad Erlangen with coal from Elbdorf Mines in the same station 00:14:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: A1win 00:14:38 *** Netsplit over, joins: Nigel 00:14:38 *** Sionide [sionide@217.147.86.20] has joined #openttd 00:14:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: Smoovious 00:14:46 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: hmm... ok so I'll deliver the coal directly... 00:14:57 <Darkvater> you don't need to 00:15:03 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: what to do instead? 00:15:05 <Brianetta> I see Rubidium's on both sides of a split 00:15:11 <Darkvater> you can build a station 2 tiles further and transfer there 00:15:40 *** Netsplit over, joins: TSC 00:15:46 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: hmm.. 00:16:18 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: any idea on when this issue will be solved? just interested 00:16:36 <Darkvater> DJGummikuh: you could've seen what's wrong by looking at the train details window. it says 'coal from Elbdorf Mines' and not 'enroute from Bad Erlangen Mines' 00:16:41 <Darkvater> when it's done 00:16:59 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: actually I saw coal from *** and a second later it simply disappeared 00:17:01 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:17:20 <Darkvater> yes because you can only have 1 from 00:17:23 <DJGummikuh> I have the same problem on the other middle line... meh.. 00:17:44 <Darkvater> you have XX-from erlangen; then the coalmine next to it delivered coal to the station so it became XX+YY from elbdorf 00:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> we should get realistic shunting, so you don't leave the coal behind, but the coal wagons 00:20:58 *** rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 00:24:29 <DJGummikuh> lol another funny error now 00:24:37 <Smoovious> I swear... the attitude of some of these players... think we owe them something donating our computer and bandwidth to host a game... 00:25:07 <DJGummikuh> instead of entering a station, the train sudendly switches directions and runs into the opposite direction 00:25:10 <DJGummikuh> why is that? 00:25:29 <Darkvater> Smoovious: what happened? 00:25:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> wrong signalling? 00:25:36 <Darkvater> DJGummikuh: service? 00:25:40 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: no... 00:25:49 <Rubidium> missing an electrified tile? 00:26:01 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: it simply goes to the next thing in list 00:26:05 <Darkvater> got scared? 00:26:07 <DJGummikuh> Rubidium: its a steam train 00:26:11 <DJGummikuh> Darkvater: yeah seems so.. it 00:26:18 <DJGummikuh> its not running into any stations any more 00:26:31 <DJGummikuh> both stations in it's plan get ignored 00:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> you should leave out those ' ;) 00:26:38 <Darkvater> well good luck :) 00:26:42 * Darkvater is going to sleep 00:26:43 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: yeah... stupid keyboard 00:27:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> i once started to use ` instead (although it was out of a different reason) 00:28:09 <DJGummikuh> I'm going to hit this entire pc hard... this train is behaving more stupid every second 00:28:16 <Smoovious> dude called Blotek[pl] copping attitude cuz I won't just wipe out a low-ranking company for him to play 00:28:28 <Smoovious> as if I'm gonna just do something like that without researching the company first... 00:28:41 <Smoovious> I ended up banning him 00:29:00 <DJGummikuh> Smoovious: I know those players 00:29:06 <DJGummikuh> I host an UT2004 Server... 00:29:08 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has joined #openttd 00:29:35 <DJGummikuh> most ppl that join automatically belive they have the right to do whatever thy want and that they can disobey any rules 00:30:11 <DJGummikuh> ahh.. now the train finally arrived >.< 00:31:31 <Smoovious> yeah... I get the same attitude with other stuff I've done, but they've been banned for a while now... just gotta start a new banlist for TTD 00:32:14 <DJGummikuh> ha 00:32:20 <DJGummikuh> the non-stop feature is somewhat bugged 00:32:38 <DJGummikuh> when I say "go non-stop to that station" it runs right to it and turns around without entering it 00:33:49 <KUDr> DJGummikuh: if it turns around it encountered end of line (ie, non-electrified station if train engine is electric) 00:34:37 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: no... I don 00:34:40 <DJGummikuh> !!! 00:34:45 <DJGummikuh> i don't have electrified rails yet 00:34:53 <DJGummikuh> it's steam on non-elctrified rails and stations 00:35:07 <DJGummikuh> and the second I remove the non-stop flag from the schedule, the train enters the station normally 00:35:18 <KUDr> so you have incompatible rail types or other kind of user error 00:35:49 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: as said, I only have one railtype to choose from so ther CAN'T be a railtype error 00:36:02 <KUDr> savegame? 00:36:07 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: hold a second 00:36:33 <DJGummikuh> I try if it's reproducible with the savegame I just made 00:36:43 <KUDr> ok 00:37:11 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: I played this game before :) I know most errors are user made but this one definetly is not.. or at least not from all I know from that game already :)) 00:37:18 <DJGummikuh> yep it's reproducible 00:37:59 <KUDr> dcc? 00:38:03 <KUDr> or url? 00:38:08 <DJGummikuh> http://djgummikuh.myftp.org/strange.sav 00:38:27 <DJGummikuh> I'm not chatting on the machine I have openttd on so dcc is difficult :) 00:38:40 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: the train I talk about is train3 00:38:43 <KUDr> i got it 00:38:48 <DJGummikuh> it's waiting for full load in bad erlangen 00:39:01 <DJGummikuh> put non-stop on the next stop in it's plan (the powerplant) and look 00:41:14 <KUDr> aha 00:41:22 <KUDr> but it is ok i think 00:41:37 <KUDr> as the line really ends at the station 00:41:42 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: ? 00:42:05 <KUDr> so once it reaches the station, it moves to next order 00:43:15 <DJGummikuh> yeah but when I tell it to go non-stop to that station I want it to at least ENTER it (that's why I tell it to go there after all *g*) 00:43:29 <DJGummikuh> and not to say "oh I touched it, let's turn around" 00:43:35 <DJGummikuh> :) 00:44:04 <KUDr> heh 00:44:06 <glx> toggle "non-stop handling" in patches settings 00:44:22 <KUDr> then it is your misunderstanding how it works 00:44:50 <KUDr> or switch off reversing at the station 00:44:57 <KUDr> in difficulty settings 00:45:05 <KUDr> it is really user error 00:45:16 <DJGummikuh> glx: hmm... 00:45:36 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: hmm... if you say so but then you should declare the requirement of a diploma to use openttd :) 00:45:46 <KUDr> no 00:45:53 <DJGummikuh> well it didn 00:45:55 <KUDr> what you have done is useless 00:46:04 <KUDr> line ends at the station 00:46:20 <glx> depending on "non-stop" setting in patch, it's go to xxx non-stop, or don't stop at xxx 00:46:22 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: well in previous versions a train stopped in every station it had enroute 00:46:32 <DJGummikuh> glx: which is what? 00:46:45 <KUDr> and instead of unloading cargo you instructed driver to follow the next order immediatelly once he reaches the station 00:47:09 <KUDr> DJGummikuh: you told him "non-stop" 00:47:11 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: that doesn't make a difference.. if you put non-stop on the first target it won't work anyways 00:47:19 <DJGummikuh> KUDr: I told him non-stop TO 00:47:27 <KUDr> so why you are complaining that it doesn't stop there :) 00:47:31 <DJGummikuh> in my understanding this is "go there and don't stop on the way 00:47:43 <DJGummikuh> that doesn't mean he should throw out the cargo at 120km/h 00:47:56 <glx> yeah but that depends on a patch setting 00:48:05 <DJGummikuh> glx: yeah I think I toggled it... 00:48:07 <KUDr> yes 00:48:10 <DJGummikuh> glx: I'll check that one out 00:48:30 <Brianetta> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Talk:GPGAuthentication 00:50:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> "ttdpatch compatible non-stop" should be off 00:50:56 <Smoovious> ok, I got a mini debate going right now about autoreplacing... one of my players is convinced his auto-replace is still working when he isn't connected... I disagree... who wins? 00:50:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> the setting (and its name) is total rubbish anyway 00:51:03 * Sacro fancies some Xenon pwning 00:51:10 <Brianetta> Smoovious: He does 00:51:22 <Smoovious> ok... thanky 00:52:24 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-78.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:53:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> hmm... 256x256 maps somehow became really tiny 00:53:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> or maybe screens just got bigger ;) 00:54:44 <Brianetta> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Lightbulb_joke 00:55:04 *** michi_cc is now known as michi_cc-away 00:55:11 <setrodox> Eddi|zuHause2, hehe, agreed, about 3000x1000 makes maps look really tiny :> 00:55:34 <setrodox> that was the resolution, not a map size, just to clarify :P 00:55:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have a weird widescreen... 00:55:45 <setrodox> dualscreen 00:55:51 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, i "just" run on 1600x1200 00:56:07 <setrodox> 1680x1050 + 1280x1024 00:56:21 <setrodox> Eddi|zuHause2, http://setrodox.powerhuhn.net/room/screens.jpg 00:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have seen that one before 00:56:47 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-78.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:56:47 <setrodox> ah, ok 00:57:07 <setrodox> sorry, for re spamming it then ^^ 00:58:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Funny_quotes <- the bug report is the best ;) 00:59:44 <setrodox> lol :D 01:00:02 <Sacro> ive seen funnier 01:00:20 <Sacro> the International Talk Like A Pirate Day quote from Prof_Frink 01:00:37 <Sacro> http://www.qdb.us/67325 01:00:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> not quite the same category ;) 01:01:22 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: lmao on the bug report 01:03:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> weather seems to have calmed down a little 01:07:50 <roboboy> with rc 4 i getlots of question marks everywhere there should be text, could that be the langauge file problem? 01:08:02 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: yep 01:08:16 <DJGummikuh> roboboy: yep 01:08:31 <roboboy> ok 01:08:32 <DJGummikuh> roboboy: go to the openttd.cfg and change russian.lng or whatever it is to english.lng or whatever your language is 01:09:01 <DJGummikuh> I found the easiest way to make a profit is to simply buy up your opponents :) 01:10:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> you have opponents? 01:10:16 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: AI :) 01:10:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... someone made a train scheduling patch, who was that, and how did that work? 01:10:24 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: default game has AIs which start with you :) 01:10:50 <DJGummikuh> don 01:10:52 <DJGummikuh> don 01:10:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, i know what AIs are, but nobody should play with them 01:10:55 <DJGummikuh> f*ck 01:10:57 <DJGummikuh> don't ask me 01:11:05 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: ^^ 01:11:19 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: well if this is so, why are they enabled by default? ^^ 01:11:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> hysterical raisins 01:11:34 <DJGummikuh> I like the way they plan their roads and railways :) 01:12:06 <DJGummikuh> once I made one of them go bancrupt by simply denying it access to its station.. after building and destroying the same bridge approx 50 times it was bankrupt 01:12:22 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl51B60A70.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 01:12:28 <DJGummikuh> well by buying up my opponents, I multiplied my income by 10 :) 01:12:31 <setrodox> DJGummikuh, i wouldn't call what tehy do planniing xD 01:12:34 <Andrew_Conelli> Hello 01:12:38 <setrodox> *they 01:12:46 <DJGummikuh> setrodox: hehe whatever they do :) 01:13:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> NOT planning ;) 01:13:18 <DJGummikuh> I like the way they build railways... full of 90° corners and S parts everywhere 01:13:30 <Andrew_Conelli> AI? 01:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> you are a very masochistic person 01:13:41 <setrodox> Andrew_Conelli, yes ^^ 01:13:46 <Andrew_Conelli> lol :D 01:13:47 <DJGummikuh> lol before I took over these companies I had like 50k surplus at the end of the year now I have 700k suirplus :) 01:14:18 <Andrew_Conelli> good to play multi 01:14:21 <DJGummikuh> if you would have to push a train through THAT course, chances are high it will lose all it's waggons on the way through :) 01:14:32 <Andrew_Conelli> cause there are humans "against" you 01:14:34 <Andrew_Conelli> :D 01:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> in my current game, in year 1923, i had 21 Mio EUR income from trains 01:14:48 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: I know I hosted a 0.4.0.1 server 01:15:04 <Andrew_Conelli> OTTD? 01:15:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> (but total income: -422.858 EUR) 01:15:23 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: err 1923?!? how you have 21 mio EUR income in 1923 when there is no euro until 2002? 01:15:42 <Andrew_Conelli> i have OTTD 0.5.0 RC4, OTTD nightlies e8082, Miniin r7691 01:15:56 <Andrew_Conelli> hehehe :D 01:16:03 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: now I have 0.5.0 RC4 as well... 01:16:10 <Andrew_Conelli> euro sux... national currency rulz :D 01:16:13 <DJGummikuh> but it's my mothers PC, my own is at my vendor to get repaired 01:16:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> DJGummikuh: i have all my games in euro... see it as a "global reference unit" 01:16:34 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: yeah.. I like the Yen... looks like you have plenty of money :) 01:16:39 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: ^^ 01:17:21 <Andrew_Conelli> i like Hungarian Forint, name company to MAV, making deficit, many sub-lines into mainline, carrying anything and making mess :D 01:17:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> i could have like 40.000.000.000.000.000.[...].000 RM, if that pleases you better ;) 01:17:28 <Andrew_Conelli> just like reality in Hungary :D 01:17:30 <Andrew_Conelli> :D:D:D 01:17:36 <Andrew_Conelli> (lol... just kidding) 01:17:44 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: RM=ReichsMark? 01:17:53 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: lol :) 01:17:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah 01:18:14 <Andrew_Conelli> for reality, i like to build complex systems, so i have to learn much 01:18:18 <DJGummikuh> now that would be a currency... but with inflation enabled you would hardly be able to control anything :) 01:18:39 <Andrew_Conelli> o use PBS of Miniin 01:18:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> there were some calculations... the whole money shoved around in germany at the high point of "The Inflation" was worth around 50ct 01:18:45 <Andrew_Conelli> it is good, i think :D 01:19:24 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: hehe :) 01:19:34 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-236-105.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:19:34 <Andrew_Conelli> and why did they stopped developing miniin? 01:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> lack of time 01:19:59 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: I kinda find it hard to belive that money can be worth less than the paper it's printed on 01:20:05 <Andrew_Conelli> will anybody ever continue similar job? 01:20:14 <DJGummikuh> what is miniin? 01:20:18 <Eddi|zuHause2> you might be interested in http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29507&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= 01:20:25 <DJGummikuh> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=29507&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= 01:20:35 <DJGummikuh> sry 01:20:35 <Andrew_Conelli> like developing tons of risky (maybe-buggy) patches, and drag the regular program by ages? 01:20:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> you always copy my links? ;) 01:20:59 <Andrew_Conelli> Miniin is a fast-developing thing 01:21:04 <Andrew_Conelli> similar to nightlies 01:21:13 <Andrew_Conelli> they merge in many cool feautures 01:21:19 <Andrew_Conelli> even if they are buggy 01:21:29 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: I'm chatting with putty, and to copy stuff I have to right click and if I right click the crlf with it, it gets posted... 01:21:43 <Andrew_Conelli> so it is better to play, but you have more chance to have a crash in the game 01:22:03 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: some examples for features in minin? 01:22:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> i need a volunteer to fix up the bridge overbuilding patch 01:22:17 <Andrew_Conelli> PBS = path based signals 01:22:27 <Andrew_Conelli> diagonal rail/road crossing 01:22:33 <Andrew_Conelli> subsidiaries 01:22:36 <Andrew_Conelli> it means 01:22:44 <Andrew_Conelli> you can creat sub-company 01:22:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> there used to be a list of all included patches somewhere 01:23:08 <Andrew_Conelli> which is owned by your company, you manage it, you can send money for it, or get money from it 01:23:09 <Andrew_Conelli> and 01:23:23 <Andrew_Conelli> you can use it's tracks, stations, connect tracks, etc 01:23:25 <Andrew_Conelli> and 01:23:33 <Andrew_Conelli> mix cars in trains 01:23:59 <Andrew_Conelli> so like red company's red train is pulling green company's green wagons :D 01:23:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> mixed-company trains? i never knew that ;) 01:24:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> not that this feature is particularly useful with the DBSetXL ;) 01:24:39 <Andrew_Conelli> so train is condominium 01:24:55 <Andrew_Conelli> with newgrf thingie? 01:25:05 <Andrew_Conelli> whicj has Ferman trains? 01:25:25 <Andrew_Conelli> i didn't used newgrfs too much... only some new stations 01:25:32 <Andrew_Conelli> German* 01:25:43 <Andrew_Conelli> sorry, i'm a bit tired at 2:25am 01:25:46 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: I tried to activate the DBSetXL but failed somehow.. 01:25:57 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: we're all in the same timezone btw ^^ 01:26:13 <Andrew_Conelli> Germany is same timezone as Hungary 01:26:25 <Andrew_Conelli> Ungarn -> wir haben Plattensee 01:26:40 <Andrew_Conelli> Deutsche turisten komm hier :D:D:D:D 01:26:43 <Andrew_Conelli> lol 01:26:53 <Andrew_Conelli> it is my German knowledge :D 01:27:00 <Andrew_Conelli> it is buggy too :D 01:27:06 <DJGummikuh> lol 01:27:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i was at the Balaton twice 01:27:48 <Andrew_Conelli> pertying, drinking, picjing up girls? :D 01:27:53 <Andrew_Conelli> picking* 01:28:03 <Andrew_Conelli> most German guys do that way... 01:28:08 <Andrew_Conelli> some even smoke weed :D 01:28:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> not particularly... i was a little younger back then ;) 01:28:15 <DJGummikuh> I never was in hungary 01:28:15 <Andrew_Conelli> ah, oh 01:28:18 <DJGummikuh> Eddi|zuHause2: hehe 01:28:29 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: didn't need that to find my girl ^^ 01:28:37 <Andrew_Conelli> but many Germans, from both parts (when it was separated) come here 01:28:50 <Andrew_Conelli> he^he 01:28:54 <Andrew_Conelli> i had a gf... 01:28:57 <Andrew_Conelli> a Chinese girl 01:29:05 <Andrew_Conelli> here in Pécs (Fünfkirchen) 01:29:13 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: lemme guess.. lost it by playing too much openttd? ^^ 01:29:15 <Andrew_Conelli> she lives in Frankfurt 01:29:21 <Andrew_Conelli> the West Frankfurt 01:29:24 <Andrew_Conelli> there are 2 01:29:24 <DJGummikuh> yeah 01:29:27 <DJGummikuh> i know 01:29:35 <DJGummikuh> Frankfurt an der Oder und Frankfurt am Main 01:29:36 <Andrew_Conelli> 1 in ex-West, and 1 in ex-East Germany 01:29:47 <Andrew_Conelli> yeah, i heard about it 01:29:57 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: no need for geography lessons for two ppl that actually LIVE in germany :)) 01:30:00 <DJGummikuh> get to your point 01:30:11 <DJGummikuh> ;) 01:30:12 <Andrew_Conelli> so the Chinese girl is a medical student, living in Germany since the age of 7 01:30:30 <DJGummikuh> lol 01:30:41 <Andrew_Conelli> so, that girl was my girfriend, she studied in Pécs, but went back to Germany... 01:30:44 <DJGummikuh> my gf is from sri lanka, she's a medical student living in germany since the age of 10 :) 01:30:47 <Andrew_Conelli> she spent here 2 years 01:30:49 <Andrew_Conelli> but 01:30:59 <Andrew_Conelli> i met her late... at the end of the 2nd year 01:31:04 <DJGummikuh> aww 01:31:07 <DJGummikuh> bad luck 01:31:10 <Andrew_Conelli> cause 01:31:18 <Andrew_Conelli> i find her on a site called iwiw 01:31:29 <Andrew_Conelli> it is similar to hi5 or friendster 01:31:33 <Andrew_Conelli> but Hungarian 01:31:46 <Andrew_Conelli> i write to her, and we exchanged letters there 01:31:57 <Andrew_Conelli> on a Hungarian community site 01:32:16 <Andrew_Conelli> in English... she didn't speak Hungarian... only a few words... 01:32:24 <DJGummikuh> lol somethign strange happened 01:32:33 <Andrew_Conelli> but Chinese and German perfect, English is quite good 01:32:36 <DJGummikuh> when Ibought the two companies, there were 2 new companies created 01:32:45 <Andrew_Conelli> lol :D 01:32:49 <Andrew_Conelli> in what game? 01:32:56 <DJGummikuh> both are named "Unnamed", both have no company building and no vehicles 01:33:01 <DJGummikuh> openttd 0.5.0 RC4 01:33:06 <Andrew_Conelli> multi? 01:33:09 <DJGummikuh> single 01:33:18 <Andrew_Conelli> oh 01:34:27 <Andrew_Conelli> i guess i try playing multi... 01:34:36 <Andrew_Conelli> it must be a fun stuff... :D 01:35:40 <DJGummikuh> hehe 01:35:48 <DJGummikuh> cool I like that "send to depot" button in train overview 01:36:05 <DJGummikuh> selected to replace all vehicles with newer ones, then set "send to depot" and switched all vehicles in less then 30 seconds :) 01:36:25 <DJGummikuh> err that maintenance thign I meant... not send to depot 01:39:17 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB5F34.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 02:05:51 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:11:15 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0EA86.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:17:02 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp31-195.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:17:20 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0CD17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:31:09 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76561.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:34:25 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:37:36 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B7661C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:41:15 *** KUDr [~KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 02:44:09 *** mow [~mow@dtmd-4db5c6df.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 02:46:41 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:47:17 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 02:49:23 *** KUDr [~KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:51:45 *** iamaway [~mow@dtmd-4db5c080.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:14:13 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl51B60A70.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:48:41 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:53:19 *** dp [~dp@p54B2D566.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:00:20 *** dp_ [~dp@p54B2DDAE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:51 *** DJGummikuh [~joey@p50856981.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:26:06 <peter1138> dmesg 04:26:10 <peter1138> er 04:26:24 <Sacro> peter1138: this is not a console 04:47:06 <peter1138> ooh, lots of posts to read 04:48:41 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-138-130-140-81.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]] 04:50:23 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:11:20 <peter1138> hmm 06:05:43 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5951.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:08:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8275 /trunk/src/table/ (road_land.h station_land.h unmovable_land.h): 06:08:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 06:08:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Factor common data tables and use a bit more sensible names 06:09:14 <peter1138> hmm 06:09:44 <peter1138> openttd: players.c:875: CmdPlayerCtrl: Assertion `_local_player == PLAYER_SPECTATOR && _network_playas == p->index' failed. 06:09:47 <peter1138> in RC4 06:09:54 <Tron> suboptimal 06:28:55 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B816B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:31:42 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:31:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 06:32:22 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 06:41:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5951.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 06:44:36 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3EA07.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:48:50 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F383.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:59 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 07:03:28 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 07:10:50 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:11:32 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 07:33:20 *** Wolfy [~wolf@ip52-73-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 07:41:20 <Celestar> some Idiot decided to stop running trains yesterday at 8pm 07:43:32 <peter1138> nice 07:44:00 <Celestar> airport was open full-time 07:44:11 <Celestar> even the Trams stopped operating at 8:30pm 07:44:26 <Celestar> so why the fuck are planes less wind-dependent than trains?! 07:44:39 <Celestar> this doesn'T compute 07:45:02 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:01:39 <Tron> KUDr: is there a reason the SwapT template is this complicated? 08:03:54 <KUDr> currently the second specialization is not there so it can be simpler, yes. If you think that it will make it better/faster... 08:05:26 <Tron> i don't understand the pointer mumbo jumbo at all 08:05:48 <Tron> template<typename T> void Swap(T& a, T& b) 08:05:48 <Tron> { 08:05:48 <Tron> T t = a; 08:05:48 <Tron> a = b; 08:05:48 <Tron> b = t; 08:05:49 <Tron> } 08:06:06 <KUDr> guys don't like references 08:06:16 <Tron> no extra referencing, no specialisations, just plain simple 08:06:42 <KUDr> they rather want to see that they are passing ref (by pointer) 08:07:00 <Tron> this is error prone 08:07:09 <Tron> int* x; 08:07:11 <KUDr> i know 08:07:11 <Tron> int* y; 08:07:21 <Tron> SwapT(x, y); // probably NOT what you want 08:07:34 <KUDr> true 08:07:52 <KUDr> but we are moving from C 08:08:08 <KUDr> it will take some time 08:08:26 <Tron> moving is good, in the wrong direction is not 08:09:44 <Celestar> er 08:09:45 <Celestar> btw: what do I need to do to make languages like Japanese work on my box? 08:09:53 <KUDr> feel free to make it better if you know how, but better doesn't always mean more acceptable 08:10:44 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:12:19 <Celestar> KUDr: er whom are you talking to or did I miss anything? 08:16:23 <KUDr> Celestar: to Tron :) 08:16:32 <KUDr> sorry 08:16:58 <KUDr> i am typing slowly 08:19:44 <KUDr> Celestar: you made changed max() but not min() << is it ok? 08:20:11 <Celestar> KUDr: I didn't find time to templatize min yet. 08:20:31 <Celestar> I did "max" for practising my C++ skills :) 08:20:59 <KUDr> hmm seems bit inconsistent now 08:22:10 <Celestar> I'll give "min" a shot, ok? :) 08:25:31 <KUDr> try it but with care 08:29:37 *** TheMask97 is now known as TheMask96 08:32:55 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:39:28 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]] 08:47:55 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:54:10 *** Wolfy [~wolf@pcrepairman.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:58:40 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:59:02 *** ufoun [~ha@b07-305a.kn.vutbr.cz] has joined #openttd 09:05:37 *** Tron_ [bfJvAUG1@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:11:41 <peter1138> hmm 09:12:04 <Tron_> hmm? 09:13:10 <DaleStan> Doesn't the C++ library come with template min and max functions? 09:13:41 <KUDr> yes, but Clestar wanted his own :) 09:13:52 <KUDr> rather than std:min/max 09:14:24 <Tron_> hm, i'm not too fond of using the standard library 09:14:42 <Tron_> just including <algorithm> increases the compile time considerably 09:16:07 <peter1138> boost ;) 09:16:28 <ln-> that's partially because gcc is so bad at supporting precompiled headers. 09:16:34 <peter1138> i'm all for doing things in a good way, and i'll take tron's word for what is good 09:16:56 <peter1138> like SwapT... 09:16:58 <Tron_> well, it's not really good to duplicate stuff, but just a little story: 09:17:18 <Tron_> i wanted to use std::swap() because i wanted to, well, swap variables 09:17:45 <Tron_> the swap was in a inline function in a header. The header was included in almost every file 09:18:04 <Tron_> so i added #include <algorthim> in that header 09:18:17 <Tron_> the compile time went up by about 30% 09:18:36 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 09:18:44 <Tron_> 30% just for swap! 09:18:53 <peter1138> ouch 09:19:05 <Tron_> so i simply wrote swap again 09:19:37 <Tron_> of course it was not using std::swap which increased the compile time, it was just including algorithm 09:19:44 <peter1138> yes 09:20:51 <Tron_> apropos swap - or rather SwapT() 09:21:32 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@p5493E480.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:21:45 <Tron_> any objections against making it less error prone? 09:22:17 <KUDr> i used SwapT to be clear that it is template, but we can agree on not using ..T 09:22:45 <Tron_> well, it's less the name than its semantics 09:23:27 <KUDr> using refs is OK for me, but others must tell their opinions 09:25:03 <Tron_> well, i already stated the problem: in its current incarnation its use is error prone, because you have to explicity remember to take the address of its parameters 09:26:11 <KUDr> which is normal if you expect that your parameter will be affected by the function 09:26:42 <KUDr> but not so common in C++ where refes are used usually 09:26:49 <Tron_> passing two pointers to SwapT() seems to "work" 09:27:02 <Tron_> but is not what you wanted to do 09:27:07 <peter1138> i've no objections to fixing things, heh 09:27:27 <Tron_> i already gave the example, but 09:27:31 <Tron_> int* x; 09:27:31 <Tron_> int* y; 09:27:38 <Tron_> SwapT(x, y); // oops 09:27:42 <peter1138> in some cases it's not clear, but with swap it's fairly obvious 09:27:56 <KUDr> then ok, do it 09:28:11 <Tron_> later, got something to do 09:28:15 <peter1138> and it's better than a macro, heh 09:34:31 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:40:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 09:50:51 <FloSoft> hmm to compile openttd under win32 - which dx sdk do i need? 09:51:15 <mow> . 09:51:18 *** mow is now known as davis_ 09:51:19 *** davis_ is now known as davis__ 09:51:21 <davis__> ffs 09:52:51 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CB07.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:10:50 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:10 <davis__> . 10:15:09 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:32:27 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:38:08 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 10:40:03 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:00 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:49:58 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:05 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 11:25:39 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-232-76.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 11:42:53 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has quit [Quit: Fui embora] 11:45:42 *** davis__ is now known as _1337 11:46:32 *** _1337 is now known as n 11:46:36 *** n is now known as mow 11:47:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8276 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 11:47:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 11:47:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Change the signature of Swap() to be less error prone, i.e. pass the variables to be swapped by reference instead of passing pointers to the variables. 11:47:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Just do Swap(x, y) instead of Swap(&x, &y). This prevents accidents when the variables are pointers. 11:53:43 <peter1138> that is lame 11:53:58 <peter1138> the OpenTTD: thing 11:54:00 <peter1138> not the commit :) 11:54:13 <hylje> :o 11:55:14 <Frostregen> rail_cmd.cpp (608): comment still mentions signal/semaphore for bit 0 11:56:04 <Tron_> Frostregen: PM it to Darkvater so he'll notice 11:56:20 <Frostregen> ok 11:57:51 <peter1138> lol 11:58:02 <peter1138> "Hi, i was pleased by announcement of some synchronization errors in RC4 repaired. But our savegame has still desync on join problems. Can anybody help us? " 11:58:07 <peter1138> "Hi, i was pleased by announcement of some synchronization errors in RC4 repaired. But our savegame has still desync on join problems. Can anybody help us? " 11:58:10 <peter1138> err 11:58:10 <peter1138> "Sync problems are on MiniIN r8236 win32 version" 11:59:17 <Tron_> hmm, maybe level crossings should be rail tiles 11:59:30 <peter1138> bah, meeting 12:07:57 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:09:18 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:18 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 12:10:10 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:12:56 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:18:20 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18:20 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 12:25:40 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:29:52 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-0-121.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:04 <Tefad> ?! cpp files everywhere 12:30:21 <Tefad> i leave for a few weeks and this happens? 12:31:15 <setrodox> hehe 12:31:28 <Celestar> ^^ 12:32:35 <hylje> mwahah 12:33:41 <Brianetta> "Can't remove track... train approaching." 12:33:48 <Brianetta> PBS should do this 12:33:56 <Celestar> and it will 12:34:23 <hylje> are we getting universal pbs? 12:34:31 <Brianetta> In time 12:34:38 <Brianetta> It's one of KUDr's plans 12:34:40 <Celestar> at some point 12:37:29 <Darkvater> morning 12:38:27 <Tefad> so uhm, somehow i hosed my data dir 12:38:36 <Tefad> and svn isn't giving me proper data files 12:39:42 <Brianetta> Darkvater: Morning. 12:39:46 <Brianetta> the 11th of March, 2042 12:40:07 <Giddorah> This is what u're planning on doing by then? 12:40:10 <Tron_> Tefad: it's in bin/data 12:40:21 <Tefad> oh, what the hell 12:40:31 <Tefad> why did you guys break everything : ( 12:40:41 <Tron_> don't look at me 12:41:17 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x535ff04e.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:41:58 <Tefad> ok.. cute everything is in a /bin now 12:42:21 <Tefad> should my trunk dir be mostly empty except for configure and makefile or something? 12:43:58 <Brianetta> Tefad: Delete openttd and *.o 12:44:04 <Brianetta> or openttd.exe 12:44:08 <Brianetta> depending on your OS 12:45:25 <peter1138> fresh checkout :D 12:45:33 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489EE9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:45:40 <Tefad> yeah i figured that much 12:45:46 <Tefad> i have some residuals too 12:46:09 <Tefad> should i go and rm ./data ? 12:46:26 <peter1138> yeah 12:46:29 <peter1138> all in bin/data now 12:46:45 <Tefad> are .d also moved? 12:47:45 <Tron_> find . -name '*.[do]' -delete 12:49:35 <Tefad> ah ha 12:50:08 <Tefad> does that work 12:50:10 <Tefad> hmm. 12:50:39 <Tefad> n/m 12:50:53 <mow> muh 12:50:59 *** mow is now known as davis` 12:52:50 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489CA59.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:54:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:03:02 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:06:03 <Tefad> so with grf files.. do i want the windows or dos version.. or should it match my existing files 13:07:01 <peter1138> match your files 13:07:04 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:07:08 <peter1138> windows is preferable though 13:07:28 <Tefad> as i figured : D 13:08:28 <Tefad> i'm going to guess ottd doesn't do industries yet? 13:08:35 <peter1138> not yet 13:08:56 <hylje> industries are done, not just arbitrary newgrf industries :-P 13:09:53 <Tefad> hylje: i didn't switch my context : ) 13:10:43 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@dns1.netanday.it] has joined #openttd 13:10:44 <Wolf01> ello 13:10:51 <davis`> hy 13:11:24 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:11:29 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 13:13:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Celestar> so why the fuck are planes less wind-dependent than trains?! <- planes are not prone to trees accidently falling onto the rails or catenary 13:14:11 <Tefad> heee 13:14:46 <hylje> gogogog diesel locomotives with tree-splitting headpiece 13:14:55 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:15:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> also, planes only have problems by wind during start and landing, trains are affected all the travel time 13:16:57 <Brianetta> Neither are affected unduly during travel 13:17:01 <Brianetta> except by debris 13:19:39 <peter1138> aircraft don't have to emergency stop cos a trees just fallen in front of them 13:20:23 <davis`> sounds logical 13:20:29 <Wolf01> lol Brianetta, one screenshot of five of your "live webcam" capture an accident between buses and trains :D 13:20:39 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:53 <Brianetta> Wolf01: Yes, usually through a disaster news article 13:21:24 *** glx|away is now known as glx 13:25:09 <davis`> Wolf01 ^^ 13:28:41 <Wolf01> this evening i'm going to code a "new game" entry on the main gui, so we can have "new, save and load" 13:29:51 <Giddorah> There's a "Quick Game"? 13:30:17 <Wolf01> i hope this will be easy.. i'm trying to become the gui guy :D 13:30:37 <hylje> then they change the gui semantics :-) 13:31:40 <davis`> mow! 13:32:15 <davis`> || mow! 77.181.198.223 13:32:18 <davis`> :d 13:32:22 <davis`> nvm 13:33:47 <hylje> :o 13:34:27 <davis`> //say $channel || $fullname $ip 13:35:59 <Tefad> nice IP there.. 13:36:06 <Tefad> and.. goat pr0n.. wtf 13:36:09 <davis`> :o 13:36:22 <davis`> using irc proxy anyway 13:36:30 <Wolf01> what about the new transparency patch? anybody have tried it? 13:36:36 <davis`> link 13:36:44 <Tefad> except that usually states your machine's IP 13:36:57 <davis`> :p 13:37:17 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=26105 13:38:00 <davis`> ill tire it 13:38:01 <davis`> anytime 13:38:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> it matches the IP from /whois 13:39:03 <davis`> no shit 13:39:04 <Wolf01> any request or bug reporting about it? 13:39:04 <davis`> ? 13:39:19 <davis`> 84.183.101.97 !! 13:39:29 <davis`> nen deutscher 13:39:31 <davis`> nja immerhin 13:42:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that's my IP ;) 13:42:47 <davis`> sag ich doch 13:43:28 <davis`> using wlan? huh 13:45:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> who? 13:47:05 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:47:16 <davis`> xou 13:47:17 <davis`> you 13:47:59 <davis`> afk 13:53:27 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has joined #openttd 13:54:27 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46ac4.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:54:31 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 13:54:52 <Wolf01> hi Bjarni 13:55:45 <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 13:55:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't use wlan, where do you get that idea from? 13:57:45 <Tefad> quick bug check someone: at the credits screen, move the cursor around over the scrolly text and see if you notice anything.. interesting 13:58:14 <Tefad> well hell, now it just seems to happen on any mouse input 13:59:11 <Wolf01> the text stops? 13:59:23 <glx> it goes faster 13:59:42 <Tefad> ok, repeatable. 13:59:46 <Tefad> enjoy! 13:59:49 <Bjarni> known issue 13:59:57 <Bjarni> I got no idea why it does that though 14:00:07 <Wolf01> ah, yes, i was undecided between stop and fast forward XD 14:00:16 <Bjarni> it's not a major issue though. I don't think it will cause desyncs or anything like that ;) 14:00:32 * davis` whips Eddi|zuHause3 with a mouse cord 14:00:49 <davis`> from traceroute 14:00:50 <davis`> but nvm 14:02:01 <Wolf01> mmmmh i still have r6699 on my pendrive 14:02:20 <Wolf01> a bit old i think 14:03:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> only half a year :) 14:03:18 <davis`> . 14:03:45 <Wolf01> oh, no savegames to lose, is better that i update it 14:04:02 <hylje> oh no 14:05:09 <Wolf01> somebody use my custom build? i can't access svn from here to download the sources and compile 14:05:33 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c56076.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:05:38 <Wolf01> *is somebody using <- for english people 14:06:09 <davis`> thanks 14:06:30 <Wolf01> yeah another collision! :D and in the same point as the first i seen today :D 14:06:37 <hylje> :o 14:06:41 <Wolf01> http://ppcis.org/standard/screenshot.png 14:06:51 <Wolf01> doh 14:06:53 <Wolf01> changed 14:08:06 <davis`> 2047 right now 14:08:10 <davis`> new game soon , yay 14:12:05 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@f210198.upc-f.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:12:05 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 14:22:28 <Frostregen> http://saddam.ath.cx/stat.png 14:22:39 <Frostregen> some scaling issue? 14:23:29 <peter1138> hehe 14:24:21 <Tefad> wow nice 14:24:42 <Frostregen> only the first of all statistic seems to have this 14:31:26 <peter1138> RC4 or trunk? 14:31:31 <Frostregen> trunk 14:31:48 <Darkvater> pff, trunk/ 14:32:17 <Frostregen> pff, rc4 :P 14:32:39 <ln-> http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TuppersSelf-ReferentialFormula.html 14:33:21 <Celestar> signed/unsigned error in players.cpp is presume 14:33:22 <peter1138> Darkvater: any idea what these RC4 overflows are? or maybe it's just luck... 14:33:34 <Darkvater> peter1138: just luck, I've replied to it on the threads 14:33:35 <Celestar> peter1138: maybe my "max" implementation :) 14:33:42 <peter1138> Celestar: not in RC4 14:33:43 <Celestar> peter1138: or no ... 14:33:53 <Darkvater> basically company value is a HUGE number, which when cast to int32 becomes negative 14:34:25 <peter1138> 14:30 14:34:26 <Giddorah> Are there bugs sneaking into the RC's? 14:34:28 <peter1138> time for a lunch break 14:35:09 <Wolf01> bye, be back this evening :) 14:35:12 *** Wolf01 [~Wolf01@dns1.netanday.it] has quit [] 14:36:01 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:41:08 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm173.sigma118.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 14:43:04 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 14:43:19 <Brianetta> Giddorah: It's a chaotic system Backporting bug fixes can open others up. 14:43:38 <Darkvater> those are not bugs 14:43:46 <Darkvater> just as present in trunk 14:43:59 <Darkvater> but Brianetta is right, it can open bugs; like RC3 here 14:55:41 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5951.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:04:55 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006ABD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:04:58 <Andrew_Conelli> Hello 15:05:17 <Andrew_Conelli> is anybody here? 15:05:26 <Brianetta> nobody here, no 15:05:34 <Darkvater> move along sir 15:05:39 <Andrew_Conelli> are you joking? 15:05:43 <Brianetta> erm 15:06:05 <Brianetta> What's up? 15:06:09 <Darkvater> cheese 15:06:11 <Andrew_Conelli> hmm... 15:06:50 <Brianetta> 15:06 <sarah_pilot> Celestar: hell I just love this game 15:06:53 <Andrew_Conelli> there are very few multiplayer games rigt now... 15:07:04 <Brianetta> Andrew_Conelli: How many were you expecting? 15:07:31 <Andrew_Conelli> a bit more... :D 15:07:51 <Brianetta> It's not Counterstrike 15:08:00 <Andrew_Conelli> there's 3-5 of any cathegories (OTTD 0.5.0 RC4, Miniin, nightlies) 15:08:07 <Andrew_Conelli> i know 15:08:19 <Brianetta> The current release is 0.4.8 15:08:23 <Brianetta> There are many of that version 15:08:35 <Brianetta> Miniin is all but dead 15:08:35 <Andrew_Conelli> but there are many servers, what's name is an ip address, and it says, server offline 15:08:52 <Brianetta> search again 15:08:58 <Brianetta> refresh your list 15:08:58 <Andrew_Conelli> but some has the miniin... 15:09:20 <Darkvater> http://www.openttd.org/servers.php 15:09:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> MiniIN in multiplayer is probably a dangerous thing 15:09:27 <Darkvater> this looks like a lot more to me 15:10:26 <Brianetta> There's almost one FT 15:10:30 <Brianetta> to use an SI unit... 15:11:18 <Andrew_Conelli> i even find some from my home country :D 15:11:58 <Andrew_Conelli> oh... so some are running with older versions... 15:12:17 <Andrew_Conelli> like 0.4.8 or previeous RCs of 0.5.0 15:12:17 <Brianetta> Like I said 15:12:20 <Brianetta> The current release is 0.4.8 15:12:45 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:12:50 <peter1138> hmm 15:13:27 <Brianetta> http://www.openttd.org/server_detail.php?id=12734 15:13:30 <Brianetta> Stolen Trees 15:13:30 <Andrew_Conelli> so, if i downgrade to other releases, i can play... 15:13:34 <Brianetta> SAC's trees? 15:14:00 <Sionide> Andrew_Conelli, older usually means more stable 15:14:12 <Andrew_Conelli> my problem is that many people are using these Newgrfs 15:14:34 <Andrew_Conelli> like cars... last series of each time is the best in performance 15:14:35 <Sionide> newgrfs are only displayed locally, aren't they? 15:14:38 <Brianetta> Andrew_Conelli: Click the server on the web site 15:14:49 <Brianetta> It tells you which ones, and gives grfcrawler links to help you search 15:14:53 <Andrew_Conelli> Kirk's server? 15:15:07 <Andrew_Conelli> so there are links to the grf files? 15:15:10 <Darkvater> Brianetta: yes 15:15:14 <Andrew_Conelli> thanks 15:15:41 <Andrew_Conelli> but in single, i play only with some station grfs... 15:15:43 <Darkvater> only 0.5RC's have newgrf information though 15:15:44 <Brianetta> It's a shame she felt compelled to leave 15:15:47 <Andrew_Conelli> so no new vehicles 15:16:03 <Darkvater> Brianetta: yeah :s 15:16:14 <Darkvater> have you seen her website lately? there's 4 pictures up 15:16:19 <Darkvater> one more awesome than the other 15:16:38 * Brianetta clicks bookmark 15:16:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> Andrew_Conelli: you don't have to change your local config, you just have to have the files 15:17:07 <Andrew_Conelli> hmm... 15:17:29 <Andrew_Conelli> so i don't have to add them to the config file, as i do when i add them normally? 15:17:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> it automatically picks them when you join a game 15:17:45 <Andrew_Conelli> ok 15:17:57 <Brianetta> Heh, a Google result for Infra and SAC: 15:17:58 <Brianetta> Infra structure of the yolk sac and pericardial cap of Poecilia ... 15:18:08 <Andrew_Conelli> so it will use them in multi, but in single i have to add manually 15:18:10 <Andrew_Conelli> nice 15:18:23 <Darkvater> n you don't, well manually in the gui yes 15:18:28 <Darkvater> but not in .cfg file 15:18:49 <Brianetta> Darkvater: The curved water front 15:18:52 <Brianetta> wow 15:18:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> for a saved game, it will also automatically pick the ones that you saved the game with 15:19:12 <Andrew_Conelli> ok 15:19:18 <Darkvater> Brianetta: \o/ 15:19:18 <Andrew_Conelli> so i can "manipulate" 15:19:23 <Andrew_Conelli> pick up for a game 15:19:26 <Andrew_Conelli> then turn off 15:19:32 <Andrew_Conelli> so only that savegame use it 15:19:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes 15:19:38 <Andrew_Conelli> other savegames don't ? 15:20:02 <Andrew_Conelli> so savegames store, what additional grf do you use with? 15:20:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes 15:20:16 <Brianetta> That new airport design needs to be done in OpenTTD 15:20:20 <Andrew_Conelli> hmm... :) 15:20:25 <Brianetta> I know it's likely to be fake 15:21:31 <Darkvater> < home 15:21:37 <Brianetta> later 15:21:41 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 15:25:32 <Belugas> !seen Maedhros 15:25:34 <_42_> Belugas, Maedhros (~jc@140.211.166.183) was last seen quitting #openttd 1 day 19 hours 17 minutes ago (17.01. 20:08) stating "Quit: leaving" after spending some time there. 15:27:00 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-78.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 15:30:30 <Andrew_Conelli> people, where do i have to put new grfs? into /data, like i normally do? 15:30:39 <Andrew_Conelli> if i want to use them in multipl. 15:30:51 <peter1138> yes 15:30:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> Brianetta: i think the airport is real, it's just a sprite replacement of the original airport, plus a few non-track newstations tiles 15:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> the problem with openttd probably will be, that some of the sprites are shared between the original and additional aiports 15:32:35 <Brianetta> Eddi: It's those non-track tiles that are intriguing 15:33:01 *** Wolfy [~wolf@pcrepairman.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 15:36:43 <Brianetta> http://ppcis.org/standard/screenshot.png 15:36:45 <Brianetta> nice 15:36:53 <Brianetta> too late 15:37:00 <Brianetta> it was a 46 dead in level crossing smash 15:37:28 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:45:31 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has joined #openttd 15:50:01 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB5951.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:53:12 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006ABD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: I'm leaving byeZ! 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The static variable of type Station (inside ComposeWaypointStation) replaced by byte array so no destructor is called for it on exit. 16:05:47 *** Wolfy [~wolf@ip52-73-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:41 <davis`> Eddi|zuHause3 , are you german? 16:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> does that matter? 16:07:45 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has joined #openttd 16:08:14 <davis`> maybe 16:09:55 *** Wolfy [~wolf@ip52-73-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [] 16:12:58 *** Tron_ [bfJvAUG1@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:15:46 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 16:22:33 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@ip52-73-210-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:33:51 <peter1138> heh 16:33:53 <peter1138> "Speaking for Simutrans, the rendering on demand for player vehicles is quite fast. Usually most of the tiles is landscape, only few of them needs to be player colored." 16:34:07 <peter1138> is that because no-one can play simutrans long enough to build up a lot of vehicles? 16:39:59 <Darkvater> back 16:40:16 <Darkvater> hmm (r8277) is it me or is CPP needing more dirty hacks than it needs? 16:40:53 <Darkvater> eh, solves 16:41:01 <peter1138> seems ugly to me 16:41:13 <Darkvater> cause that is one UGLY mofo 16:42:18 * peter1138 mumbles something about pointer alignment 16:44:30 <Tron> peter1138: i think Simutrans draws landscape tiles way more often 16:44:41 <peter1138> that's true 16:44:55 <peter1138> it does a full redraw on scrolling, doesn't it... 16:45:04 <Tron> yes 16:45:07 <Tron> it does 16:45:21 <peter1138> i used to play it ^^ 16:45:37 <peter1138> then switched because it became too slow 16:47:13 <Tron> Darkvater: uhm, this looks very strange 16:48:26 <Darkvater> what does? 16:48:30 <peter1138> 8277? 16:49:03 <Tron> 8277 16:49:30 <Darkvater> yes it does 16:49:59 <Tron> what's the easiest way to trigger the problem? 16:50:51 * peter1138 tests 16:50:53 <Darkvater> revert commit and shutdown game when a vehicle is visible 16:51:00 <Tron> i guess using something like newstats 16:51:18 <peter1138> shouldn't have anything to do with vehicles 16:51:21 <peter1138> it's to do with waypoints 16:51:35 <peter1138> yes, using newstatsw should do it 16:51:38 <peter1138> stations work fine 16:51:56 <peter1138> and only waypoints use that function 16:51:56 <Darkvater> http://www.ppcis.org/standard/rc3-2007-01-13.sav 16:51:58 <Darkvater> this save 16:52:24 <peter1138> rc3? are you sure that's related? 16:52:34 <Darkvater> well, that's what Celestar told me; the destructor for station is called twice, once in cleanpool, once in exit 16:52:43 <Darkvater> no 16:52:54 <Darkvater> but that's the game celestar was playing and had the bug on 16:52:57 <Darkvater> in trunk/ 16:53:04 <Tron> Assertion failed: (index < _Vehicle_pool.total_items), function GetVehicle, file src/vehicle.h, line 377. 16:53:07 <Tron> o....kay? 16:53:19 <Tron> that's fascinating 16:53:23 <peter1138> hmm 16:53:40 <Tron> building a waypoint with a customised look triggers an assertion in the vehicle pool 16:54:02 <Tron> the game is started didn't even have vehicles (except for the ususal effect vehicles, of course) 16:54:15 <Darkvater> Tron: on shutdown? 16:54:19 <Tron> yes 16:55:13 <Tron> wellwell, the order of destruction of global objects is undefined 16:56:00 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 16:56:19 <peter1138> still compiling ^^ 16:56:21 <Darkvater> he 16:56:24 <Darkvater> to both 16:58:51 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has joined #openttd 17:01:54 <peter1138> so the RemoveOrderFromAllVehicles... 17:02:18 <Darkvater> Tron: if the waypoint destruct sets its member station to NULL, would that not ensure that that station destructor is not called a second time? 17:02:20 <Darkvater> < lunch 17:02:41 <Tron> no destructor is called multiple times 17:02:58 <Tron> or what are you talking about? 17:02:58 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has quit [] 17:03:25 <Tron> Darkvater: the lunch in the evening is called dinner or supper (; 17:03:48 <peter1138> :) 17:04:43 <Tron> peter1138? 17:04:44 <Tron> stat.string_id = wp->string == STR_NULL ? /* FIXME? */ 0 : wp->string; 17:04:50 <peter1138> yes 17:04:51 <Tron> isn't this a bit redundant? 17:04:52 <peter1138> i wondered about that 17:04:57 <Tron> STR_NULL /is/ 0 17:05:28 <Tron> well, i know a cheap C++ solution 17:05:59 <Tron> have a baseclass PseudoStation, which does everything BUT calling Removeyaddayadda 17:06:12 <Tron> use this (exactly) for this waypoint situation 17:06:19 <Tron> derive a class Station from it 17:06:48 <Tron> which just does nothing different except for calling the function in its destructor 17:07:01 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has quit [] 17:07:10 <Tron> not that nice 17:07:28 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@h157253.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:08:04 <peter1138> heh, that's been there since r610 17:08:09 <Tron> what? 17:08:16 <peter1138> well 17:08:21 <peter1138> r2045 for the fixme 17:08:29 <peter1138> originally there was some masking 17:09:01 <Tron> + stat.string_id = waypt->town_or_string & 0xC000 ? /* FIXME? */ 0 : waypt->town_or_string; 17:09:06 <Tron> that's the line in r610 17:09:09 <peter1138> yeah 17:09:34 <Tron> the string system got changed quite a bit since then 17:10:13 * peter1138 wonders if a compiler would optimise that away 17:10:40 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@89.98.137.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:40 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 17:12:05 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has joined #openttd 17:13:05 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x535ff04e.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 17:13:46 *** orudge [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 17:13:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 17:13:50 <peter1138> but anyway 17:15:12 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host98-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:15:30 <Wolf01> ello 17:16:08 * Belugas goes to lunch (which at this time in Canada is really a lunch ^^) 17:16:20 *** xera is now known as Xera 17:20:47 <Xera> happy bday to me 17:20:48 <Xera> :P 17:24:35 <Giddorah> Gratz :) 17:25:19 <Xera> ty 17:25:34 <peter1138> why? it's not hard to have a birthday... ;p 17:25:56 <Xera> D: 17:26:01 <Xera> got my c++ programming book.. 17:26:05 <Xera> time to learn.. >: 17:26:17 <Xera> what is openttd programmed in? 17:27:17 <SpComb> C 17:27:24 <SpComb> which is different from C++ 17:27:33 <Xera> not much 17:27:33 <Xera> ;p 17:27:43 <Xera> c++ is oo, c isn't 17:27:51 <Xera> and some of the syntax is different 17:28:05 <SpComb> the style of programing in C is far different from C++ 17:28:21 <SpComb> a C++ book probably doesn't have much about handling char* s 17:28:31 <SpComb> std::string instead 17:29:20 <Xera> meh 17:29:44 <Xera> if you learn c, you can learn c++ relatively easily, visa vi 17:31:06 <SpComb> uh, writing C code in C++? :) 17:31:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:31:44 <Xera> not what i mean 17:31:56 <Xera> i mean, if you learn C it's easier to learn C++ 17:32:02 <Xera> and the other way round 17:32:20 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-186-96.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:32:25 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-186-96.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 17:32:28 <SpComb> hmm 17:32:55 <hylje> Xera, SpComb openttd is actually c++ nowadays 17:33:03 <hylje> but its mostly coded like C as of now 17:33:04 <Xera> oh :O 17:38:44 <Darkvater> lunch, dinner, it's food 17:39:23 <hylje> lumch 17:41:11 *** Xera is now known as xera 17:44:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8279 /trunk/src/ (rail_cmd.cpp rail_gui.cpp): 17:44:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Regression (r8274): Removing signals could fail under certain circumstances 17:44:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: (not the proper bits of p1/p2 were set to trackbits). Moved trackbits back to 17:44:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bits 0..2, ctrl to 3, semaphore to 4. Also lower the decision of the 17:44:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ctrl-override of signal/semaphore from the GUI into the cmd function since we 17:44:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: are passing the ctrl-bit anyways. Bug(s) found by Frostregen; thanks 17:44:34 <Darkvater> okay, I gotta go, hockey \o/ 17:45:47 <SpComb> careful with those kneecaps 17:45:57 <hylje> kneecaps are overrated 17:46:28 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:46:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r8280 /trunk/src/waypoint.cpp: -Codechange: Remove unnecessarily complex assignment of waypoint string ID. 17:46:58 <peter1138> no bold :D 17:47:04 <hylje> omg 17:47:09 <hylje> first line is no bold 17:47:16 <SpComb> bug! 17:47:22 <hylje> rather a WTF 17:47:25 <SpComb> SpBotII already supports parsing formatting codes 17:47:28 <Wolf01> C:/msys/home/OpenTTD/trunk/src/waypoint.cpp: In function `Station* ComposeWaypoi ntStation(TileIndex)': 17:47:28 <Wolf01> C:/msys/home/OpenTTD/trunk/src/waypoint.cpp:359: error: expected primary-express ion before ']' token 17:47:28 <Wolf01> C:/msys/home/OpenTTD/trunk/src/waypoint.cpp:360: error: `stat_raw' was not decla red in this scope 17:47:28 <Wolf01> C:/msys/home/OpenTTD/trunk/src/waypoint.cpp:360: warning: unused variable 'stat_ raw' 17:47:39 <SpComb> now I just need to figure out a nice way of sending them 17:47:47 <Wolf01> i changed the main menu only, is this related? 17:47:48 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has joined #openttd 17:48:00 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 17:48:38 <glx> Wolf01: no I get it too 17:49:38 <peter1138> coo 17:49:43 <peter1138> so it doesn't even compile for everyone? :p 17:49:45 <Wolf01> ok, because i added a string too 17:49:48 *** xera is now known as Xera 17:51:24 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-185-235.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:51:29 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 17:51:29 <Digitalfox> !logs 17:53:44 * peter1138 > home 17:54:52 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 18:01:16 *** Xera is now known as xera 18:03:00 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB14.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:43 <Wolf01> the "quick new game" menu entry works :P 18:10:44 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:33 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 18:19:03 *** xera is now known as Xera 18:21:19 <Wolf01> is better to have a "random new game" or "save game" as the first option? 18:24:30 <glx> keep "save game" as first option as it's the default when you just click on the icon 18:24:55 <Wolf01> ok, save|new|load 18:25:12 <Wolf01> or save|load|new? 18:25:23 *** DJGummikuh [~root@p50856981.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:19 <setrodox> Wolf01, load near save sounds logical to me 18:28:23 <caladan_> Did anyone had problems with openttd sound under vista? 18:30:01 <Sacro> caladan_: yes i did had problems 18:30:11 <glx> I saw a post about that on the forums 18:30:56 <caladan_> hmmm, it seems that its about drivers or just an architecture of vista... 18:31:16 <caladan_> cause all data on system bus is to be coded with aes :/ 18:32:10 <Xera> death to vista ffs 18:32:11 <Xera> >:( 18:32:34 <Xera> don't make vista support for openttd >: 18:32:37 <DJGummikuh> ffs? 18:32:42 <Xera> for fuck sake 18:32:43 <Xera> lol 18:32:52 <DJGummikuh> xera I thought the same but didn't dare to say it... 18:32:54 <caladan_> Huh, today a friend of mine installed it... And he couldnt run his FreeBSD, for vista didnt allow another bootmanager :/ 18:33:00 <Wolf01> me too 18:33:18 <DJGummikuh> that is plain stupid 18:33:23 <Xera> vista is sh*t 18:33:34 <Wolf01> (but i didn't know how to say it :D) 18:33:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8281 /trunk/src/lang/ (brazilian_portuguese.txt bulgarian.txt): 18:33:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-01-19 19:32:57 18:33:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 2 fixed, 49 changed by fukumori (51) 18:33:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 1 fixed by kokobongo (1) 18:33:35 <DJGummikuh> I really wonder why microsoft really believes it can get away with such a restrictive boot layout.. 18:33:42 <caladan_> i just read like 10pages about that "security", hell all devices must report to the system 30times/second 18:34:01 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: what is that for? 18:34:08 <Xera> it's such a ram/cpu eater 18:34:16 <Xera> my friend wants to install it. i said, "ok. bye!" 18:34:17 <Xera> XD 18:34:23 <DJGummikuh> Xera: lol 18:34:38 <caladan_> its to ensure all devices work in the right way and noone messes up with em 18:34:44 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8282 /branches/masterserver_updater/ (36 files in 5 dirs): [MSU] -Change: move to C++ as trunk has moved to it and I'd like to continue sharing the base network code with trunk. 18:34:51 <Xera> Vista is one HUGE virus. 18:35:02 * Xera emails grisoft 18:35:12 <DJGummikuh> Xera: you can download it for free at our university.. its to be downloaded since middle of december or so. I belive until now it has been downloaded like 50 times or so 18:35:26 <Xera> ? o.o 18:35:33 <caladan_> i can download it too from MSDNAA, shit, never gonna do that... :/ 18:35:35 <Xera> your ramblings mean nothing to me 18:35:37 <Xera> XD 18:35:41 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: yep same here... msdnaa 18:35:47 <DJGummikuh> forgot the name 18:36:14 <caladan_> but my frient is a suicidal one, he wanted to run a hame on vista with 512MB of ram 18:36:18 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: I'm a 100% linux user... 18:36:26 <caladan_> so vista swapped itself to the death ;-) 18:36:26 <Xera> go linux 18:36:27 <Xera> XD 18:36:41 <Xera> linux > all 18:36:41 <Xera> :D 18:36:54 <Xera> only reason i have windows on my hd anymore is for cs/hl2/gmod 18:36:57 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: funny though is I just sent my laptop in for repair.. I bet when it returns, the system has been "rescued" to windows xp home... just to be re-rescued to gentoo after I get it back :D 18:37:14 <Xera> XD 18:37:31 <Xera> god. i still can't get the jukebox working 18:37:36 <Xera> timidity works, but not in openttd 18:37:36 <Xera> ;/ 18:37:59 <DJGummikuh> what are the minimum requirements for openttd anyways? 18:38:16 <Xera> like...................... 0? 18:38:17 <Xera> XD 18:38:23 <Xera> it's light ;p 18:38:32 <hylje> nah. ottd absolute minimum is quite low 18:38:39 <hylje> but for big stuff it eats cpu 18:38:52 <caladan_> i run server for several people in maps like 512x512 with P3-500 18:39:07 <Xera> hmm 18:39:23 <Xera> how do i clear the console, linux/c++? 18:39:29 <caladan_> DJGummikuh: i have gentoo at mine both computers and noone messes with them :D 18:39:35 <caladan_> what console? 18:39:38 <DJGummikuh> caladan I have a p2 350 here... right now it's rebuilding its entire installation twice... after that (in approx a week) I will try 18:39:42 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: noone messes with what? 18:39:43 <Xera> i'm making a console app 18:39:49 <Xera> terminal/whatever 18:39:56 <Xera> need to clear the text my app outputs 18:39:59 <caladan_> with my computers, im the only one who touches them :D 18:39:59 <Xera> how? 18:40:03 <DJGummikuh> caladan_: yeah but I have a laptop from samsung which broke down while still havnig warranty so I sent it in 18:40:08 <Xera> system("cls"); == winders 18:40:09 <caladan_> Xera: you use curses? 18:40:17 <Xera> i use wha? 18:40:17 <Xera> ?!?1 18:40:22 <DJGummikuh> Xera try clear 18:40:28 <Xera> um 18:40:32 <caladan_> but in program he meant :] 18:40:34 <Xera> clear; or system("clear");? 18:40:34 <Xera> xD 18:40:36 <DJGummikuh> saystem("clear") 18:40:40 <Xera> kk 18:40:41 <caladan_> do printf("\n"); several times :D 18:40:43 <DJGummikuh> Xera: how the **** should I know? :) 18:40:53 <Xera> caladan_: c++, not c 18:40:54 <Xera> ;P 18:41:05 <caladan_> printf works too ;] 18:41:10 <DJGummikuh> Xera: shouild work in c++ too 18:41:10 <Xera> orly? 18:41:10 <Xera> XD 18:41:11 <caladan_> streams are for wimps 18:41:20 <Xera> ? ;o 18:41:42 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006ABD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:41:46 <Xera> omigosh 18:41:47 <Xera> tis work0r 18:41:47 <Xera> xD# 18:41:48 <Xera> xD 18:41:51 <Andrew_Conelli> Hello 18:41:54 <hylje> Xera: make a curses "g"ui for ottd dedicated 18:42:12 <Xera> wth is curses? 18:42:13 <Xera> lol 18:42:17 <Xera> i just started c++.. 18:42:19 <hylje> a console toolkit 18:43:03 <Andrew_Conelli> hehe :D 18:43:22 <caladan_> ncurses 18:43:24 <Andrew_Conelli> i started Openttd twice, and now i can play multiplayer against myself :D 18:43:27 <caladan_> that's a good idea after all 18:43:35 <Andrew_Conelli> it must be bug :D 18:43:41 <Xera> xD? 18:43:42 <hylje> Andrew_Conelli: nah 18:43:46 <caladan_> what would be nice i must say, with all statistics 18:43:51 <hylje> Andrew_Conelli: ottd doesnt prevent several instances of itself 18:43:54 <DJGummikuh> Andrew_Conelli: why would you consider that a bug? 18:43:57 <caladan_> I can think of it, if someone woudl like to do it with me 18:44:01 <DJGummikuh> hylje: yeah and why should it? 18:44:02 <Andrew_Conelli> ah 18:44:16 <Andrew_Conelli> so if running two OTTD at same time is ok, then no bug 18:44:29 <hylje> you might have some funnities with file handling 18:44:35 <hylje> but apart from that, it should go all fine 18:44:57 <Xera> oooooooook one last question.. i promise 18:45:05 <Andrew_Conelli> i go play against myself... 18:45:11 <Xera> someone told me cin.get(); will wait for a user to press any key then continue 18:45:14 <Xera> cept it doesn't continue 18:45:15 <Xera> _._ 18:45:16 <Andrew_Conelli> maybe i win, but maybe myself win :D 18:47:08 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-205-144.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:49:43 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B78808.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:50:05 <caladan_> streams are shit, you should use ncurses to wait for keys and so on... 18:50:21 <caladan_> it must be enter for cin.get() afair. 18:53:33 *** Andrew_Conelli [~wlaszlaw@dsl54006ABD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Quit: I'm leaving byeZ! 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[no] 19:36:21 <Xera> ;p 19:37:42 <caladan> enable this, if it doesny work fiddle with sdl 19:38:39 <Xera> sdl doesn't run the midi files 19:38:39 <Xera> ^^ 19:38:55 <caladan> could be, didnt look into the source 19:39:14 <Xera> man this configure file is po 19:39:14 <Xera> xD 19:39:16 <Xera> poo* 19:39:21 <Xera> doesn't even check the os -.- 19:39:24 <Xera> have to do it myself 19:44:51 <Xera> FFSSS 19:44:58 <Xera> it's trying to compile it for windows 19:44:59 <Xera> O_O 19:45:10 <Xera> music/../win32.h:6:21: error: windows.h: No such file or directory 19:45:11 <Xera> xD 19:46:23 <Xera> HALP?!?!?1 19:46:39 <hylje> fix: dont use windows 19:48:18 <Rubidium> Xera: it should detect the OS itself 19:48:54 <Xera> hylje: i'm not on windows 19:48:54 <Xera> XD 19:48:59 <Xera> Rubidium: well, it doesn't 19:49:02 <Xera> obviously. 19:49:09 <Xera> css 19:49:12 <Rubidium> what OS do you have? 19:49:15 <Xera> completely stupid statment. 19:49:17 <Xera> kubuntu 6.06 19:51:13 <Rubidium> what does gcc -dumpmachine give you? 19:51:38 <Xera> i486-linux-gnu 19:51:46 <Xera> 486?? O.O?? 19:52:29 <Rubidium> just means that your gcc compiles binaries that work on i486 19:53:05 <Rubidium> can I have your config.log? 19:53:19 <Xera> k 19:53:31 <Xera> where is it? 19:53:32 <Xera> xD 19:53:42 <Rubidium> same place where configure is 19:53:46 <Xera> nop 19:54:02 <Xera> Makefile.config and configure 19:54:03 <Xera> nothing else 19:54:36 <Rubidium> ah, you're using 0.5.0-RCx ? 19:54:49 <Xera> jup, RC4 19:58:23 <Xera> halp? D: 19:58:24 <Rubidium> I cannot find a reason why it would select windows 19:58:44 <Xera> because it's eful 19:58:48 <Xera> >:*( 20:00:10 <caladan> your OS suxx - that's my opinion :P 20:00:16 <glx> I hope you didn't enabled direct-music as it's a windows only thing 20:00:32 <caladan> so, that's why it tries using windows :D 20:00:54 <Xera> aff 20:00:55 <Xera> xD 20:00:55 <Xera> XD 20:01:13 <caladan> i can give you static build :D 20:01:20 <Xera> ?!?! 20:01:22 <caladan> but for amd64 i guess :D 20:04:51 <Xera> um 20:04:53 <Xera> problemo.. 20:05:00 <Xera> all the text is ?'s 20:05:00 <Xera> xD 20:05:09 <Rubidium> read da readme 20:05:22 <Xera> D: 20:05:30 <caladan> copy yer old openttd.cfg 20:05:30 *** DJGummikuh [~root@p50856981.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:32 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B82E2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:06:05 <Rubidium> that might help too (as long as your language doesn't use non-latin characters) 20:06:17 <Xera> um 20:06:19 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80A9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:06:20 <Xera> english doesn't? 20:06:21 <Xera> XD 20:06:31 <Rubidium> RC4 has a little issue that if you do not have a openttd.cfg, it chooses russian automatically 20:06:46 <Xera> O_O 20:06:52 <Xera> ah 20:06:55 <Xera> now it works 20:07:06 <Xera> nop 20:07:09 <Xera> no sound 20:07:10 <Xera> D: 20:07:16 <Xera> well, no jukebox 20:07:21 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has joined #openttd 20:07:22 <Bjarni> turn on your speakers 20:07:28 <Xera> they're on 20:07:28 <Xera> n00b 20:07:38 <Rubidium> no sound at all? 20:07:42 <Bjarni> make sure that the computer is not muted 20:07:52 <Xera> sound effects: yes 20:07:55 <Xera> jukebox : no 20:08:39 <caladan> and in sound volume, MIDI enabled? 20:09:13 <Xera> ? 20:09:14 <Xera> XD 20:10:03 <Rubidium> where are the gm files and where is the openttd executable and have you compiled it with custom paths (if so, what are they) 20:10:18 <Xera> gm files are in "gm" 20:10:31 <Xera> executable is in the dir up from it 20:10:46 <Xera> so: i have the execuatable, gm, data, etcf 20:10:48 <Xera> etc* 20:11:15 <caladan> hmm, can i run opentt with polish language and with olish letters? 20:13:13 <Rubidium> Xera: it works for me (using Debian Unstable) 20:13:28 <Xera> hmm 20:13:30 <Rubidium> I really have no clue why it wouldn't work for you 20:14:33 <caladan> in gentoo i have flags like timidity and alsa and never had problems 20:14:41 <caladan> even building from sources on my own.. 20:15:19 <Rubidium> I've build it on my own too, even without doing any manual configuration 20:21:15 <caladan> DO you know joke about two strings in a bar? :D 20:24:19 <TSC> I'm afraid not 20:25:12 <caladan> Two strings enter bar. One says: Two beers please! @*$!)@nma0(@)(NKJANCPNP(YP:GP#OUG 20:25:24 <caladan> the second says: sorry, my friend is not null terminated :D 20:26:07 <Xera> xD? 20:26:15 <Xera> i don't get it.. 20:26:47 <caladan> the putstring(char *s) works like that: 20:27:07 <caladan> while (*s) putchar(*s++); 20:27:27 <caladan> if there's no #0 at all it prints the memory till it finds 0, so surely prints some crap ;] 20:30:04 <Xera> hmm 20:30:11 <Xera> i can't join/host an ottd server 20:30:11 <Xera> :( 20:30:12 <Xera> >:( 20:31:07 <caladan> why? 20:31:12 <Xera> well 20:31:23 <caladan> did you enable dedicated option to host? 20:31:23 <Xera> i can't join a server because it hangs at authorizing 20:31:33 <Xera> i can't make a server because people can't join 20:32:10 <caladan> The Kubuntu of yours suxx :D 20:32:19 <Xera> no 20:32:24 <Xera> it was working like 2 days ago 20:36:43 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489EE9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:56:11 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B78808.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:04 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-78.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:04:37 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@h157253.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:06:30 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@h157253.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:06:30 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 21:12:46 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:22:33 <Tron> peter1138? 21:24:10 <peter1138> yes? 21:24:44 <Tron> ResolveStation() 21:24:54 <Tron> aren't the first two parameters redundant? 21:25:31 <peter1138> *cough* 21:26:13 <Tron> hm? 21:26:14 <peter1138> i'm trying to come up with an explanation but can't ^^ 21:26:26 <peter1138> probably 'evolution' of my ancient patches... 21:26:35 <peter1138> i shall sort it 21:26:36 <Tron> just caught my eye while i was fiddling with the Station problem 21:28:29 <Tron> %svn di | wc -l 21:28:29 <Tron> 362 21:28:35 <peter1138> possible solution, still a hack, http://fuzzle.org/o/stnew.diff 21:28:41 <Tron> hm, I'm not exactly happy with the "clean" solution 21:29:21 <Tron> peter1138: http://tron.homeunix.org/station.diff 21:30:22 * Tron wants the C++0X auto keyword 21:30:31 <peter1138> the what? 21:30:39 <Tron> nifty little thing 21:30:45 <Tron> it does type inference 21:30:49 <Tron> example: 21:30:57 <Tron> old: int* i = new int; 21:31:03 <Tron> new: auto i = new int; 21:31:16 <Tron> (not very sensible example, just simple) 21:31:22 <peter1138> like an "object" type in some other langs? 21:31:28 <peter1138> hmm, 21:31:29 <Tron> no, it's not object 21:31:35 <Tron> i is int* 21:31:37 <peter1138> no, object in c# is pretty much a void, heh 21:31:47 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:31:54 <Tron> with "auto" you tell the compiler it shall figure out the type by itself 21:32:11 <caladan> really?? 21:32:17 <caladan> in C++ or in C? 21:32:20 <Tron> C++0X 21:32:33 <Tron> (i.e. it is planned for the next standard) 21:32:42 <caladan> ah 21:32:43 <Xera> what port does openttd use for multiplayer? 21:32:48 <caladan> but there's auto keyword :> 21:32:55 <Tron> it's no new thing btw. Functional languages often do type inference 21:33:01 <caladan> 3797? 21:33:13 <Tron> caladan: yes, it gets recycled. The current auto keyword is totally useless 21:33:25 <caladan> yes, it means local variable 21:33:32 <glx> !openttd Xera port 21:33:32 <Tron> everywhere where it is allowed, it is the default 21:33:32 <_42_> Xera: OpenTTD uses TCP and UDP port 3979 for server <-> client communication and UDP port 3978 for masterserver (advsertise) communication (outbound) 21:33:34 <DaleStan> "C++0X". Meaning it is already supported in gcc, and MS's compilers will support it sometime around 2025? 21:33:42 <Tron> and everywhere else it is a compile error 21:33:43 <peter1138> Tron: is it compile or run time? 21:33:51 <Xera> ok, ty 21:34:29 <Tron> DaleStan: no, GCC does not do type inference. Also other planned stuff like variadic templates is not supported yet either, though there are patches floating around 21:34:36 <Tron> peter1138: compile time, of course 21:34:41 <Tron> it's static type inference 21:34:43 <peter1138> ok 21:38:27 <Tron> peter1138: seen the diff? not pretty, eh? 21:38:32 <peter1138> not pretty 21:38:55 *** KUDr_wrk [~KUDr@195.39.113.200] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:39:02 <KUDr> huh? 21:39:26 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has joined #openttd 21:40:05 <Tron> KUDr: uhu! 21:40:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r8283 /trunk/src/rail_cmd.cpp: 21:40:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix (r8128): Custom waypoint drawing used wrong bits since bitshuffling occurred. Also update with other station drawing changes (code duplication, 21:40:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: eh?) 21:42:13 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176125010.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 21:42:35 *** Xera [~jamie@88-110-60-201.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:43:13 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-158-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 21:43:36 <peter1138> fucking waypoints :P 21:44:59 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176102222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:46:08 <peter1138> hmm 21:48:52 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-158-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:58 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-158-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 21:51:35 <Xera> http://xera.no-ip.org/openttd/ 21:51:39 <Xera> anyone had problems like that? 21:53:21 <Bjarni> I don't 21:53:49 <Xera> i disabled my firewall - nothing happens.. 21:53:49 <Bjarni> I do have a problem with a guy, who instead of telling about the problem just posts screenshots on a slow server 21:54:01 <Xera> it happens on ALL servers 21:54:03 <Bjarni> and that guy even called ME a n00b 21:54:07 <Xera> started a few days ago 21:54:25 <Xera> i have no idea what is wrong 21:54:33 <Bjarni> well 21:54:39 <Xera> i have no router, so it's not being blocked. 21:54:46 <Bjarni> I will not say anything and risk you calling me a n00b again 21:54:52 <Xera> :O 21:54:59 <Xera> when did i call you a n00b? 21:55:01 <Xera> :S 21:55:19 <Bjarni> 21:07:21] <Bjarni> turn on your speakers 21:55:19 <Bjarni> [21:07:27] <Xera> they're on 21:55:19 <Bjarni> [21:07:28] <Xera> n00b 21:55:33 <Bjarni> so like two hours ago 21:55:33 <Xera> sorry 21:55:37 <Xera> :( 21:56:16 <Bjarni> you know, most issues are actually due to problems like that so starting there is a sign of NOT being a n00b 21:56:27 <Xera> k 21:56:32 <Xera> you know, n00b != noob 21:56:40 <Xera> n00b is a more friendly term 21:56:41 <Xera> >.< 21:57:08 <Bjarni> reminds me of the time when a guy complained about the vehicles stopped moving and the game was on pause 21:57:10 <Tron> KUDr: sizeof always needs () for types 21:57:17 <Xera> rofl 21:57:17 <Xera> XD 21:58:01 <Tron> KUDr: i.e. r8277 does not compile 21:58:05 <Bjarni> turned out that this particular guy did have found a setting combo that prevented the vehicles from moving when the game became unpaused though, but it worked for everybody else 21:58:27 <Bjarni> however we do get "bug" reports like that all the time 21:58:50 <Xera> lol 21:58:56 <Xera> halp me? >: 21:58:59 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498F2F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:59:41 <KUDr> <Tron> KUDr: i.e. r8277 does not compile << yes, we discussed it with peter1138 and he has ready patch that replaces 8277 21:59:55 <Bjarni> Xera: there is always single player 21:59:58 <Bjarni> :P 22:00:06 <Xera> >: 22:00:10 <Xera> plsh? D: 22:00:14 <Bjarni> is it nightly build or RC4? 22:00:19 <Bjarni> or 0.4.8 22:00:27 <Xera> 0.5.0 rc4 22:00:32 <Bjarni> ok 22:01:26 <Bjarni> hmm 22:01:28 <Bjarni> works for me 22:01:44 <Xera> hmm 22:01:55 <Xera> it wasn't working in rc3 either 22:02:06 <Xera> it was working, but stopped like 3 days ago 22:02:07 <Xera> ;/ 22:03:17 *** davis` is now known as Davis` 22:03:36 <Xera> i'm using a speedtouch 330 if that helps 22:04:03 <Bjarni> I say that you got a local problem 22:04:06 <Xera> kubuntu 6.06, 2mb Toucan ADSL, speedtouch 330, no firewall 22:04:31 <glx> you probably don't get some UDP packets 22:04:50 <Xera> what could be stopping them? 22:05:31 <Bjarni> some freak OS level setting 22:05:39 <Bjarni> that speedtouch thing (whatever that is) 22:05:42 <peter1138> back 22:05:48 <Bjarni> your ISP screwed up 22:05:48 <Xera> it's a usb modem 22:06:02 <Bjarni> some 4th option 22:07:06 <Bjarni> I never used USB modems... before getting one, I investigated options for connections and known issues and then I decided for a connection though ethernet 22:07:06 <caladan> speedtouch suxx 22:07:13 <Bjarni> and never had any issues 22:07:19 <caladan> had many problems with it 22:07:21 <caladan> and linux :/ 22:07:27 <Xera> it works fine with linux 22:07:28 <Xera> lol 22:07:33 <caladan> sometimes 22:07:33 <Xera> just gotta install the firmware 22:07:35 <caladan> and sometimes not 22:07:57 <Xera> hmm 22:07:57 <Xera> brb 22:08:00 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-158-178.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:08:02 <caladan> in gentoo there are drivers in portage 22:08:21 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-239-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:09:17 <Bjarni> using an USB modem could explain your unstable IRC access 22:09:31 <Xera> [Fri Jan 19 2007] [22:08:42] <Xera> brb 22:09:32 <Xera> lol 22:09:37 <caladan> Xera: do some tests, like pinging... 22:09:42 <caladan> see packets lost 22:09:42 <Xera> ok 22:09:49 <caladan> do you have netcat? 22:09:59 <Xera> netcat? 22:10:08 <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ netcat 22:10:08 <Xera> Cmd line: 22:10:10 <Xera> i guess so 22:10:28 *** Belugas is now known as Belugas_Gone 22:10:41 <Belugas_Gone> tchooo-tchoooo! 22:10:46 <Belugas_Gone> heading home! 22:10:47 <caladan> nc 22:10:50 <Belugas_Gone> good weekend! 22:11:21 <peter1138> bonne week-end 22:11:30 <peter1138> (uh oh) 22:11:45 <glx> s/ne// 22:11:47 <Tefad> urmom! 22:11:48 <caladan> got to do many things during this weekend :/ 22:11:50 <Xera> 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 6029ms 22:11:50 <Xera> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 67.829/70.006/72.376/1.491 ms 22:12:42 <caladan> ok, now some UDP tests, wait a sec 22:13:07 <caladan> try to connect to salo.ath.cx at port 1337 22:13:10 <caladan> with udp 22:13:14 <caladan> in few seconds.. 22:13:21 <Xera> uh 22:13:28 <Xera> how do i connect with udp? 22:13:29 <Xera> _._ 22:13:36 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 22:13:38 <caladan> wait a sec 22:13:42 <caladan> i must setup a server 22:13:49 <Xera> k 22:14:28 <caladan> nc -u salo.ath.cx 1337 22:14:45 <Xera> k 22:14:52 <Xera> um 22:14:55 <Xera> nothing's happening 22:14:55 <Xera> :P 22:15:00 <caladan> write something 22:15:12 <Xera> k, done 22:15:20 <caladan> it seems to crash there... 22:15:24 <caladan> now with tcp 22:15:30 <caladan> nc salo.ath.cx 1337 22:15:32 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:15:41 <Xera> connection refused 22:15:53 <caladan> hmm, with tcp? 22:15:56 <caladan> cant be... 22:15:59 <Xera> uh 22:16:06 <Xera> how teh fuck should i know 22:16:09 <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ nc salo.ath.cx 1337 22:16:10 <Xera> salo.ath.cx [85.222.9.161] 1337 (?) : Connection refused 22:16:10 <Xera> lol 22:16:47 <caladan> it doesnt show any conection in my terminal 22:16:57 <Xera> because it's refused 22:17:01 <Xera> XD 22:17:14 <caladan> and now? 22:17:22 <Xera> connected 22:17:24 <Xera> i think 22:17:31 <Xera> typed something 22:17:35 <caladan> i see :D 22:17:46 <caladan> do you see what i type? 22:17:50 <Xera> nop 22:18:03 <caladan> then it;s one way, but i can see.. 22:18:09 <caladan> hmm, so tcp works... 22:18:13 <caladan> upd not so good... 22:18:22 <Xera> my isp is probably fucking around again 22:18:32 <Xera> they blocked a shit load of ports a month ago 22:18:40 <Xera> rang them up, they said they knew nothing about ports 22:18:49 <caladan> :/ 22:18:52 <Xera> i said can i speak to someone who knows what they're doing!?! 22:19:01 <Xera> and he passed me onto some supervisor 22:19:08 <Xera> and they said that none were blocked 22:19:13 <Xera> when they were >:( 22:19:25 *** mikl [~mikl@tbv.faderhuset.org] has quit [Quit: In the end, all that matters is your relation with God...] 22:19:39 <glx> if you asked the hotline it's normal (they don't know anything except what their computers says) 22:20:09 <Xera> i'll ask to speak to someone who isn't a dumbass tomorrow then 22:20:11 <Xera> :D 22:20:12 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387DF52.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:20:19 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CB07.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:20:21 <Wolf01> 'night 22:20:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host98-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 22:20:43 <caladan> Xera: try once again 22:20:51 <Xera> test 22:20:51 <caladan> nc -u salo.ath.cx 1337 22:20:51 <Xera> it worx? :D 22:20:52 <Xera> omgosh 22:20:53 <Xera> XD 22:21:00 <caladan> oh, you got it then :D 22:21:02 <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ nc -u salo.ath.cx 1337 22:21:03 <Xera> ELLO?!?! 22:21:03 <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ 22:21:03 <Xera> lol 22:21:04 <Xera> XD 22:21:54 <caladan> You can always use nc to talk :D 22:21:58 <Xera> >.< 22:22:14 <caladan> sorry to be so l33t :P 22:22:22 <Xera> lol 22:22:27 <Xera> i wrote a telnet server in php 22:22:29 <Xera> *cough* 22:22:31 <Xera> XDF 22:22:32 <Xera> XD* 22:22:55 <caladan> i use the power of *NIX 22:22:58 <Bjarni> dude, you die a lot 22:23:17 <Xera> Bjarni: ? 22:23:17 <Xera> lol 22:23:23 <Bjarni> and you seem to enjoy it. You smile while dying 22:23:26 <Xera> ???? 22:23:27 <Xera> :O 22:23:28 <Bjarni> are you emo or something? 22:23:35 <Xera> O_O? 22:23:37 <Xera> emo sux 22:23:38 <Xera> XD 22:23:45 <Bjarni> see 22:23:53 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-239-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has left #openttd [Konversation terminated!] 22:23:54 <caladan> LOL 22:23:58 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-239-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:24:00 <Xera> ops 22:24:02 <Xera> wrong buttan 22:24:04 <Xera> D: 22:24:07 <Bjarni> see, you just died 22:24:09 <caladan> <ROTFL> 22:24:22 <Bjarni> using X instead of O for eyes usually indicates that it's a dead person 22:24:43 *** FloSoft [sifldoer@p5493E480.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Myself, not by the damn peer] 22:24:45 <caladan> ]:-> 22:25:17 *** Xera was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [I can help you with your IRC death wish] 22:25:50 <Bjarni> ... 22:25:55 <Bjarni> he should be back by now 22:26:10 *** Xera [~jamie@88-111-239-20.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:26:12 <Xera> :O? 22:26:13 <Xera> D: 22:26:14 <caladan> You b******, you killed Xera :D 22:26:19 <Xera> no 22:26:20 <Xera> lies 22:26:21 <Xera> !!!!!! 22:26:51 *** Zaviori [~Zavior@217.152.122.2] has joined #openttd 22:26:54 * Bjarni kicks caladan (censorship is banned) 22:27:02 <caladan> hmm 22:27:04 <caladan> rgr 22:27:14 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-6.acn.waw.pl] has left #openttd [] 22:27:20 <Xera> i shall comply with your rule. 22:27:21 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-6.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 22:27:27 <Xera> FUCK BITCH AHHH BASTARD!!!! 22:27:30 <Xera> D: 22:27:51 <Bjarni> of course, being Polish, you don't know how to live without censorship everywhere 22:28:20 <caladan> hmm, lets be honest, i prefer not to use such words directly to you :] 22:28:34 <Bjarni> yeah 22:28:39 <caladan> and censorship is a thing i fight with ;] 22:28:40 <Bjarni> censorship is a dirty word 22:29:00 <peter1138> Bjarni: fancy taking a look at autoreplace / vehicle refitting? 22:29:15 <caladan> thou we got a lot of it in damn newspapers and tv, cause our gov is damn rightwinged 22:29:22 <Bjarni> peter1138: why not? :) 22:29:33 <Bjarni> I was just looking at the code anyway 22:29:54 <peter1138> good :) 22:29:54 <Bjarni> but 22:29:59 <Bjarni> what is the issue? :) 22:30:09 <Xera> it is as follows 22:30:13 <Xera> ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US 22:30:14 <peter1138> it doesn't work properly for non-rail vehicles 22:30:24 <peter1138> possibly a gui-only issue 22:30:37 <peter1138> the list of 'compatible' vehicles is not correct 22:30:59 <Bjarni> oh that 22:31:19 <Bjarni> here is my (way to) long term plan: 22:31:32 <Bjarni> finish build windows unification 22:32:03 <Bjarni> clean up autoreplace by using some of the functions I write for the build window unification 22:32:25 <Bjarni> the autoreplace window is a mess, so I would like to do it in this order 22:32:46 <peter1138> i won't argue with that ;p 22:34:15 <Bjarni> and I don't want to make more spaghetti code in the autoreplace window to try to fix this when I plan on rewriting parts of it anyway 22:34:33 <Xera> HALP MI FIX0R MULTIPLAYERZZZ!!!! 22:34:35 <Xera> >: 22:34:36 <Bjarni> "Assertion with Vehicle list" <-- I think I should look at this first 22:34:36 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 22:34:46 <Xera> or i'll hunt you down with my gun!! 22:35:31 <Bjarni> Xera: join a game online and ask the other people how they solved their issues 22:35:37 <Xera> lol 22:35:39 <Xera> "funny" 22:35:40 <Xera> _._ 22:36:21 <Sacro> ( o )( o ) 22:36:29 <Xera> ( . Y . ) 22:36:34 <Bjarni> widescreen boobs??? 22:36:39 <Xera> lol 22:36:40 <Xera> XDD 22:36:40 <caladan> yeah, like 9:16 22:36:45 <peter1138> no, ascii characters 22:36:45 <Xera> >.< 22:36:58 <caladan> lets run openttd under libcaca :] 22:37:03 <Tefad> YAY!!! 22:37:10 <Xera> libcack? 22:37:16 <Tefad> libkak. 22:37:22 <Xera> libkok 22:37:32 <peter1138> ... 22:37:38 * Xera hides 22:37:55 <peter1138> my libsdl used to have an ascii art driver 22:37:59 <peter1138> it doesn't appear to anymore 22:38:00 <Sacro> aalib 22:38:06 <peter1138> yes, aalib 22:38:06 <caladan> aalib is monochrome 22:41:01 <caladan> Xera: maybe try to run server and client on the same machine 22:41:17 <Xera> caladan: k, sec 22:41:19 <caladan> youll know then if its opentt @ yer machine or net.. 22:41:41 <Xera> jamie@jamie:~$ openttd 22:41:41 <Xera> dbg: [NET] Cannot resolve 22:41:41 <Xera> dbg: [NET] Cannot resolve 22:41:41 <Xera> dbg: [NET] Cannot resolve 22:41:43 <Xera> O_O 22:41:52 <caladan> must configure it... 22:41:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8284 /trunk/src/waypoint.cpp: -Fix (r8277): g++ compilation error: missing brackets in sizeof 22:41:55 <caladan> set yer ip 22:42:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:42:07 <caladan> bind or listen, dont remember now.. 22:42:10 <Xera> where? 22:42:11 <Xera> lol 22:42:39 <Rubidium> Xera: what does it say when you start with "-d net=9" as parameter 22:42:59 <Rubidium> (and post that on some pastebin and not here, as it's quite long) 22:43:06 <Xera> uh 22:43:06 <Giddorah> I lost a word... 22:43:08 <Giddorah> Dammit 22:43:11 <Xera> 6 lines = too long? 22:43:13 <Xera> >: 22:43:14 <Giddorah> What's the word... Aah! 22:43:20 <Giddorah> Urban... Myths? 22:43:25 <Xera> ja? 22:43:26 <Xera> xD 22:43:53 <Xera> http://xera.no-ip.org/paste/view.php?id=4 22:44:03 <Giddorah> Oh come on... Someone has to know... 22:44:11 <Giddorah> Not.. Urban Mytchs 22:44:26 <caladan> how could anyone connect to you, you have local subnet 22:44:36 <Xera> um 22:44:38 <Xera> how to fix? 22:44:38 <Xera> XD 22:44:52 * Xera is n00b 22:45:00 <caladan> cant 22:45:05 <Xera> ffs? 22:45:06 <Xera> >: 22:45:08 <Rubidium> those debug messages you just had (the ones you posted here) should have been on that list too 22:45:11 <Xera> it worked like 3 days ago 22:45:11 <Xera> -.- 22:45:19 <caladan> for local subnet yes 22:45:24 <caladan> not for whole internet... 22:45:25 <Bjarni> clearly it's not working right now 22:45:31 <Xera> caladan: no i mean 22:45:35 <Xera> i could connect to servers 22:45:38 <Xera> and people could connect to me 22:46:01 <caladan> what people? 22:46:10 <caladan> you got server now, yes? 22:46:24 <caladan> i cant connect to you, 192 is a local ip address 22:46:33 <Xera> ok 22:46:37 <caladan> only people from 192.168 can connect to you now 22:46:41 <Xera> how do i set it to bind to my global address? 22:46:49 <caladan> what's yer ip? 22:46:54 <Xera> uh 22:46:55 <Xera> sec 22:47:09 <Xera> can i use a no-ip? 22:47:09 <Rubidium> binding to your global address will not work 22:47:17 <Xera> my ip is dynamic 22:47:25 <glx> just let 0.0.0.0 in cfg 22:47:30 <Xera> Rubidium: works for apache/mysql, should work for this? or do i have the wrong idea? 22:47:53 <caladan> did it detect your public ip address> 22:48:00 <Xera> did what? 22:48:16 <caladan> logon to root 22:48:18 <Xera> 88.111.239.20 is my ip btw 22:48:30 <caladan> public one? 22:48:32 <Xera> yes 22:48:33 <Xera> try it 22:48:36 <Xera> apache is on 22:48:38 <Xera> lol 22:48:38 <caladan> it wasnt detected by openttd 22:48:45 <Xera> bind 88.111.239.20 ? 22:48:55 <caladan> probably... 22:49:04 <Rubidium> Xera: I can just see your server 22:49:17 <caladan> and connect to id? 22:49:19 <caladan> it* 22:49:19 <Rubidium> only don't know the password, so I cannot connect :) 22:49:23 <Xera> 123 22:49:24 <Xera> xD 22:49:41 <Rubidium> you've just taken it offline? 22:49:42 <Xera> but it's off now 22:49:42 <Xera> lol 22:49:43 <Xera> yes 22:49:44 <Xera> sec 22:50:02 <Xera> ok 22:50:04 <Xera> online 22:50:08 <Xera> pass is 123 again 22:50:34 <Xera> ;o 22:50:44 <Xera> says u connected 22:52:02 <Xera> d000000000d 22:52:05 <Xera> servers working now 22:52:08 <Xera> luv ya! XD 22:52:28 <caladan> Just remember you got dynamic ip.. 22:52:32 <Xera> i know 22:52:36 <Xera> i'll use my no-ip thing 22:52:43 <Xera> plus i hardly ever restart my comp 22:52:50 <Xera> so it changes like once a week/month 22:53:03 <caladan> in poland biggest ADSL provider resets connections once a day ;] 22:53:15 <Xera> mine used too 22:53:17 <caladan> and forces different ip ;] 22:53:19 <Xera> but some setting stopped it 22:53:23 <Xera> lol 22:53:26 <Rubidium> stupid DSL providers 22:53:34 <caladan> TPSA is the worst of all :/ 22:53:42 <peter1138> heh 22:53:44 <Tefad> heh, my IP is usually bound to my MAC address 22:53:51 <peter1138> "unlike perl, c++ seems to insist on..." 22:53:59 <Tefad> if i switch devices, i normally get the older IP that was associated to that device 22:54:09 <caladan> yes, but its done with static DHCP 22:54:23 <caladan> static - bound to MAC 22:54:30 <Tefad> i don't think so 22:54:34 <caladan> it is 22:54:38 <Tefad> i think it's dynamic with caching 22:54:44 <caladan> could be also 22:54:47 <Tefad> as i can plug any device in and still get an IP 22:54:52 <KUDr> peter1138: will you commit your station patch? 22:55:00 <Tefad> it just involves resetting the modem a bunch, and a few minutes of time 22:55:22 <Xera> wtf 22:55:32 <Xera> "Video card problem, sorry" 22:55:33 <Xera> O.o 22:55:39 <Xera> aff 22:55:42 <Xera> someone put a sign 22:55:43 <Xera> XD 23:05:08 <peter1138> KUDr: not yet. 23:05:27 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-172-071.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 23:06:01 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B82E2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 23:06:56 <Sacro> Limitation disturbs me very sprites. Goes it throw out limitation? 23:07:06 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has quit [Quit: Fui embora] 23:07:45 <Xera> is there a way to disable trees? 23:08:35 <glx> look in patches settings 23:08:53 <peter1138> Sacro :D 23:08:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 23:09:00 <Xera> ym 23:09:01 <Xera> um* 23:09:08 <Xera> i don't want just invisible trees 23:09:10 <Xera> i want em gone 23:09:11 <Xera> ;p 23:09:12 <Sacro> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=192464&highlight=limitation+disturbs+sprites+goes+throw+limitation#192464 23:09:16 <peter1138> i know 23:09:38 <peter1138> heeeeee 23:09:38 <glx> Xera: you can't as they are part of "economy" 23:10:00 <Xera> :( 23:10:04 <Xera> they're damn annoying 23:10:04 <Xera> lol 23:10:24 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.23] has joined #openttd 23:10:30 <Rubidium> unless you modify the source, but then everyone who connects to you must have done exactly the same modification, otherwise you'll desync 23:10:32 <UnderBuilder> hi 23:10:46 <UnderBuilder> what happened to the nightlies? 23:10:53 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@h157253.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:07 <glx> UnderBuilder: a little error in the code 23:11:22 <UnderBuilder> ouch 23:11:30 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-144-135.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:11:38 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 23:11:43 <Rubidium> just because somebody asked for more unstable nightlies :) 23:11:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> hehe ;) 23:12:01 * Eddi|zuHause3 whistles 23:12:24 * Sacro takes Eddi|zuHause3 off the stove 23:15:17 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@h157253.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 23:16:25 <Bjarni> hey 23:16:33 <Bjarni> what happened to the nightly build? 23:16:59 <Sacro> Bjarni: i broked it 23:17:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, it's sacro's fault 23:17:49 <Bjarni> I know 23:17:55 <Bjarni> he is the fault of everything 23:18:02 <Bjarni> but what happened this time? 23:18:52 <glx> Bjarni: r8277 (fixed by r8284) 23:18:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> !openttd commit 8277 23:18:57 <_42_> Commit by KUDr :: r8277 /trunk/src/waypoint.cpp (2007-01-19 16:01:43 UTC) 23:18:59 <_42_> -Fix (r8038): assert on game exit when waypoints were used. The static variable of type Station (inside ComposeWaypointStation) replaced by byte array so no destructor is called for it on exit. 23:19:40 <Bjarni> ahh 23:19:42 <Bjarni> that one 23:20:04 *** michi_cc-away is now known as michi_cc 23:25:53 <caladan> my girlfriend just tried to transport livestock to city :-) 23:26:03 <caladan> isn't she cute? 23:26:36 *** Kosma [raidmaster@furniture.ommadawn.pl] has joined #openttd 23:26:59 <SpComb> better than transporting passangers to the coal mines 23:27:04 <caladan> Hi Kosma 23:27:05 <Sacro> or to a steel mill 23:27:07 <Kosma> hi caladan 23:27:08 <Kosma> lol ;) 23:27:25 <caladan> Kosma: My Monia tried to transport livestock to city :D 23:27:39 <caladan> She just began playing... 23:27:43 <Kosma> hey, it's perfectly normal if the city is Warsaw ;) 23:27:59 <caladan> She's not from warsaw, she's from £omianki 23:28:52 <caladan> but yes, we got our government on wiejska (like village street) :D 23:30:18 <Kosma> anyway, is there anything interesting going on there? 23:30:41 <caladan> not much :D 23:30:55 <caladan> but you always know first if there's a new RC :D 23:34:41 <Darkvater> ugh 23:34:43 * Darkvater is back 23:35:16 <Bjarni> injured? 23:37:35 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.238] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:41:08 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 23:43:32 <Sacro> :o 23:43:36 <Sacro> all the devs are appearing 23:43:42 <SpComb> utwente.nl! 23:43:51 <Sacro> probably cos trunk is borked 23:44:35 <SpComb> bork bork bork 23:44:40 * blathijs doesn't know what happened, but it seems my screen decided to shut down this afternoon... 23:45:00 <SpComb> blathijs: Ctrl-a Ctrl-4? 23:45:06 <SpComb> try it and see what happens! (don't) 23:45:12 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8285 /branches/MiniIN/ (order_gui.c saveload.c vehicle.c): [MiniIN] -Fix (r5657): [Physics] desync due to not saving 'flags' variable of VehicleRoad which is used for modelling the (acceleration) state of a road vehicle. 23:45:54 <blathijs> SpComb: doesn't seem to be binded according to C-A ? 23:46:01 <blathijs> SpComb: what's it supposed to do? 23:46:16 <SpComb> it quits screen, i.e. kills all windows and closes screen 23:46:39 <caladan> deos it? 23:46:52 <SpComb> according to man screen 23:46:55 <caladan> C-A K does kill one console 23:47:11 <Sacro> C_a C_K 23:47:15 <SpComb> *window 23:47:16 <Sacro> err.. 23:47:17 <Darkvater> Bjarni: no, I'm back 23:47:22 <Sacro> C_a K even 23:47:30 <Sacro> but i dont think it C_A 23:47:32 <Darkvater> but I think I'll have some sore blue spots tomorrow on my knee, my elbow and my right foot 23:47:36 <Darkvater> damn rough game 23:47:41 <SpComb> 17:37:28 -!- blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:47:43 * blathijs is off to sleep 23:49:59 <Kosma> it 23:50:12 <Kosma> it's perfectly normal, screens turn themselves inside out all the time ;) 23:50:22 <Kosma> but in fact, I've seen such mysterious crashes a few times 23:50:53 <Kosma> with a strange message around the lines 'suddenly the dungeon collapses... you die!' 23:50:55 <SpComb> it also helps to check `uptime` when that happens :) 23:51:09 <Kosma> a straight reference to some roguelike game, probably Adom ;] 23:51:30 <Kosma> SpComb: try screen -list, do you see any dead screens? 23:51:40 * SpComb once spent a couple hours figuring out why his screen died, only to figure out that his server managed to spontaneously reboot itself in the exact 5-minute interval 23:51:43 <Kosma> oh, it was blathijs's problem ,okay ;) 23:51:59 <Kosma> so, why was the server rebooting? 23:52:10 <SpComb> no clue 23:52:16 <Darkvater> !openttd commit 5071 23:52:17 <_42_> Commit by peter1138 :: r5071 /trunk/train_cmd.c (2006-06-02 13:15:50 UTC) 23:52:19 <_42_> - Fix (FS#184): "Erroneous train reversal on waypoints". When processing the next train order, do not even consider reversing the train if the last order was to a waypoint. 23:52:22 <SpComb> it happaned exactly at the same time as one of the switches locked up 23:52:24 <SpComb> it was rather weird 23:52:53 <Kosma> SpComb: looks a bit like unstable power for me 23:53:03 <SpComb> it has an UPS 23:53:18 <SpComb> but it happaned half a year ago 23:54:27 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498CDC9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:55:23 <Kosma> anyway, I hate computers 23:56:31 <Bjarni> yet you use one right now 23:56:45 <Kosma> 'cause I'm still a little bit addicted 23:56:49 * SpComb is smaller than three computers 23:57:25 <Kosma> I have one PC and one (big) printer under my desk 23:57:29 <Kosma> two PCs under my bed 23:57:39 <Kosma> and another two printers around 23:57:43 <SpComb> don't feel like working on SpBotII, played enough BF2 for the day, slept about 12 hours, have eaten... 23:57:53 <SpComb> yawn... 23:57:58 <Kosma> but I hate them all 23:58:03 <Bjarni> why? 23:58:11 <Bjarni> you put windows on all of them? 23:58:19 <Kosma> even worse... 23:58:23 <Kosma> Gentoo, Debian and OpenBSD 23:58:29 <Kosma> and so I have no life 23:58:36 <Bjarni> how can that possibly be worse than windows? 23:58:56 <Kosma> the OS doesn't matter in fact 23:59:13 <Kosma> what matters is that I spend all the time surfing net 23:59:53 <Kosma> I work as a sysadmin now but I'm gonna fscking quit 23:59:56 <Kosma> and become a gardener or something