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00:00:12 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [] 00:02:13 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:03:14 <KeeperOfTheSoul> if I've made a patch for a bug in FS, should I just attach it to the bug in the comments? 00:03:52 <Sacro> >< 431MB windows update 00:03:55 <Sacro> VS2005 SP1 00:04:15 <Sacro> 13 minutes it reckons... not bad 00:05:04 <Rubidium> KeeperOfTheSoul: I think that's best to do. By the way, what bug are you talking about? 00:05:20 <ThePizzaKing> Hey Sacro, I should tell you, I'm back using Arch Linux again 00:05:31 <Sacro> ThePizzaKing: nice one! 00:05:48 <Sacro> i think you where my first online convert 00:06:34 <ThePizzaKing> cool 00:06:52 <KeeperOfTheSoul> oh, i'm just playing with some of the simpler smaller bugs, gives me something to play with while I work out how this thing works 00:07:15 <KeeperOfTheSoul> this particular on was FS#564 00:09:19 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 00:11:08 <Rubidium> ah, that one 00:11:50 <KeeperOfTheSoul> yup, I now know how to work out if a vehicle is on a tile, how to see if a tile is a bridge, get its end, and if there are vehicles on the bridge :) 00:12:20 <KeeperOfTheSoul> and not to call the cunningly named, IsBridge to see if it's a bridge ;) 00:12:50 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x573559d2.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:00 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13:08 <Rubidium> it has the same semantics as IsTunnel :) 00:13:29 <KeeperOfTheSoul> you booby traped the source :P 00:13:53 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:53 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 00:14:27 <Rubidium> tunnels, bridges, they are all wormholes :) 00:14:38 <Rubidium> at least at this moment they are 00:14:51 *** Sacro_ is now known as Sacro 00:14:52 <KeeperOfTheSoul> i noticed that, took me a moment to work out what track type wormhole was 00:15:09 <KeeperOfTheSoul> i thought you were secretly conventing the game to startrek or something :) 00:15:16 <voodoo070> for transdimensional trains 00:16:40 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I'll be damned if I can work out what's going on with that AI though 00:17:27 <voodoo070> does anybody use it? 00:17:30 <Rubidium> hint: don't, 'just' write a new one as the current 'old' AI is basically broken by design 00:18:17 <KeeperOfTheSoul> a cunning solution 00:19:45 <Rubidium> maybe you could extend/improve/finish the current 'new' AI 00:20:32 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I'd need to learn a bit about AI first, which in itself isn't a bad thing 00:23:45 <KeeperOfTheSoul> is there a money cheat btw? 00:24:02 <glx> yes 00:24:08 <glx> in the cheat menu 00:24:28 <KeeperOfTheSoul> cheat menu? 00:24:38 <glx> ctrl-alt-c 00:24:53 *** Dextro [~dextro@84.90.228.100] has quit [Quit: Fui embora] 00:25:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FB74.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:27:15 <KeeperOfTheSoul> hmm, that doesn't seem to do anything for me 00:27:30 <glx> ctrl-alt-win-c then 00:27:54 <KeeperOfTheSoul> ah ha, there we go, cheers 00:27:57 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-162-035.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:33:55 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-174-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:34:07 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 00:40:04 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:43:43 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.244] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48:32 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176116070.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 01:03:34 <glx> http://www.tt-forums.net/search.php?search_author=Sterenceted7 <-- spammer 01:03:39 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 01:19:03 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:23:50 <Belugas> how can is he still allowed to post?? 01:24:32 <Belugas> hehehe looks like he's gone 01:50:08 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:03:39 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:08:26 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:08:37 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 02:10:59 <Belugas> time to go to bed 02:11:03 <Belugas> bye all 02:23:51 <Sacro> night Belugas 02:30:53 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7679A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:37:21 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B4D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:39:43 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:43:25 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-100-40.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:26 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:45:40 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 02:52:30 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 02:56:26 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:56:37 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 03:04:05 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 03:07:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... what are my options if kill -9 fails? 03:29:14 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:31:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7679A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:35:37 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77C5D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:54:49 *** dp_ [~dp@p54B2D47A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:01:48 *** dp [~dp@p54B2F810.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:07:06 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:52 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:55:08 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:08:11 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-123.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 05:12:21 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@59.167.214.242] has joined #openttd 05:18:58 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-20.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:23:14 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-20.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:19:53 *** Jezral [~projectjj@nat.kollegienet.dk] has quit [Quit: ) td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ (] 06:21:33 <Tron> ARG! 06:23:52 <Tron> for the last time: do NOT touch filenames you get from the filesystem. Do NOT try to convert them to another locale and use the converted name to try to open the file 06:31:09 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489C42B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:33:38 *** ThePizzaKing_ [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:34:10 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-20.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ThePizzaKing_))] 06:34:16 *** ThePizzaKing_ is now known as ThePizzaKing 06:37:53 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489F7D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:39:53 *** spacewench [~spacewenc@203-97-254-40.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 06:40:21 <spacewench> hi, does the stations proximity to an industry or number of cachement squares over the industry squares affect the yeild from the industry? 06:40:38 *** spacewench is now known as jotham 06:40:47 <ln-> how many supported platforms were abandoned with the introduction of the 'configure' script? 06:42:18 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.244] has joined #openttd 06:56:38 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:24:52 <peter1138> in theory none 07:31:46 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:47:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8547 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: 07:47:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 07:47:04 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Remove redundant second retrieval of the station and airport when building an aircraft 07:54:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8548 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: 07:54:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 07:54:16 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Remove redundant second retrieval of the AircraftVehicleInfo when building an aircraft 08:03:38 *** FlashFF [~flashff@80-193-4-162.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:04:13 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 08:05:02 <caladan> gm 08:05:16 <Tron> morning 08:11:56 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3EF3C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:18:02 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3DF9D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:24:58 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 08:25:47 <Eddi|zuHause> am i the only person having difficulties to spot the difference in these two commit messages this early in the morning? 08:27:03 <Tron> Remove redundant second retrieval of the station and airport when building an aircraft 08:27:05 <Tron> Remove redundant second retrieval of the AircraftVehicleInfo when building an aircraft 08:27:12 <Tron> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 08:27:19 <Eddi|zuHause> yes ;) 08:27:28 <Eddi|zuHause> they have exactly the same length ;) 08:30:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8549 /trunk/src/aircraft_cmd.cpp: 08:30:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 08:30:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Do not check whether the end of the depot array has been reached when building an aircraft. This cannot happen, just assert it really does not happen 08:30:29 <peter1138> anyone know where my servers are? 08:31:01 <Eddi|zuHause> "i can ping it, but i don't know where it is"? 08:33:03 <peter1138> no, i can't 08:33:08 <peter1138> i need to get it rebooted ;p 08:36:07 <Eddi|zuHause> "init 6" ;) 08:43:46 <peter1138> if i could get into it, i wouldn't need to... 08:47:56 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:54:22 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB659A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:56:03 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:05:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8550 /trunk/src/ (6 files): 09:05:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 09:05:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Building a vehicle does not involve allocating orders, so do not check whether orders could be allocated 09:07:56 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08:45 *** bubersson [~bubersson@stechovice.eurosignal.cz] has joined #openttd 09:10:00 <ln-> 09:24 < peter1138> in theory none <-- ok, so what's the procedure for compiling under SunOS/Solaris? 09:10:40 <peter1138> ln-: as i said, theory... 09:12:05 <peter1138> but i'm sure you'll be really helpful in making it work... 09:13:38 <ln-> i think i was the one who originally provided the necessary information for compiling under Solaris. 09:14:01 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:14:10 <peter1138> good 09:14:28 <peter1138> and you provided reports of what happens with the current system, of course? 09:14:55 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:07 <ln-> i've mentioned it... 09:15:33 <peter1138> anything more helpful? 09:16:18 <ln-> well, first of all, with a clean copy from svn, I get: $ ./configure 09:16:19 <ln-> ./configure: syntax error at line 520: `(' unexpected 09:17:04 <peter1138> which shell? 09:17:17 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 09:18:21 <ln-> configure uses /bin/sh 09:18:47 <ln-> if i change it to /bin/bash, then: http://pastebin.ca/338291 09:19:56 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 09:27:10 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.2.235.203] has joined #openttd 09:27:18 <Wolf01> ello 09:27:35 <Maedhros> http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/config.lib_fix.diff should fix the first problem 09:27:38 <ln-> ah, yes, italians don't use the letter 'h' 09:28:05 <Wolf01> was ironic 09:28:09 <Maedhros> as for the second, do you have a grep on your system that does support -E ? 09:28:28 <peter1138> can we implement a case without -E ? 09:28:32 <peter1138> err, without grep 09:30:40 <ln-> there seems to be gnu grep at /usr/sfw/bin/ggrep (which means, it might be even installed on most solaris installations, but it may not be in user's default path). 09:33:21 <peter1138> if [ "$endian" != "AUTO" -a "$endian" != "LE" -a "$endian" != "BE" ]; then 09:33:28 <peter1138> long winded, but... 09:33:39 <peter1138> especially for the --os option :p 09:33:55 <peter1138> hmm 09:34:17 <peter1138> dunno if -a is in all [s 09:34:36 <peter1138> config.lib:334 uses separate expressions though 09:35:16 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:35:54 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 09:37:18 <Maedhros> if fixing something that happened in a branch, would the commit log reference the change in the branch, or when the branch was merged into trunk? 09:37:45 *** bubersson [~bubersson@stechovice.eurosignal.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:37:48 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38:42 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 09:39:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D654.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:39:55 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52:15 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 09:54:59 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8551 /trunk/config.lib: -Fix (r7759): Use ${} instead of $() for variables. 10:03:51 *** roboboy_ [~leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:06:56 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8054F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82FA3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:08:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:16:00 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/patches/transparency_options_gui_2.diff 10:16:01 <Wolf01> see elrail.cpp, i know the #define is not the best way, but i'm not able to do it in other ways, there is somebody which can suggest me a better way? 10:18:41 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:21:09 *** erikv [~erik@86.84.194.205] has joined #openttd 10:24:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8552 /branches/newhouses/src/newgrf_house.cpp: [NewHouses] -Codechange: Make AnimateNewHouseTile simpler by removing next_frame. (Rubidium) 10:24:34 *** erikv [~erik@86.84.194.205] has left #openttd [] 10:24:57 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:38:50 <Maedhros> oh good lord... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6325319.stm 10:39:04 <Maedhros> terror-free petrol? 10:39:55 <roboboy> do any of you guys know of a good Content Management System? 10:40:15 <Maedhros> i've heard drupal is supposed to be pretty good 10:40:34 <roboboy> ok thanx 10:41:44 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 10:44:12 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2C60C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:46:55 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@c-8a6370d5.020-16-6b736810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 10:48:11 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:26 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:38 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 10:55:44 <Neonox> Tron: ping 11:11:21 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:13:43 *** Bulb [~Bulb@145-119-207-85.strcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #openttd 11:19:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8553 /branches/newhouses/src/ (openttd.cpp saveload.cpp town_cmd.cpp): 11:19:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewHouses] -Fix: Reinstate the savegame bump, and turn the SLE_CONDVARs in 11:19:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: _house_id_mapping_desc into SLE_VARs as the chunk won't be loaded if it isn't 11:19:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: there. 11:19:21 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:14 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip177.cab59.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:47:46 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 12:05:49 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:11:17 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:13:03 <BurningFeetMan> EVERYBODY'S GONE SURFIN'! SURFIN' USA! 12:13:11 <peter1138> i haven't 12:13:38 <BurningFeetMan> :D Drunk, and listening to Blind Guardian! 12:13:48 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 12:14:15 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:14:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the last thing i would do when being drunk is search for a computer to get on IRC... 12:16:46 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:21:51 <caladan> Eddi|zuHause: Some people drink in front of PCs 12:21:58 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:23:47 <BurningFeetMan> EDDITHING, I JUST GOT HOME FROm A PARTY :D 12:23:58 <BurningFeetMan> Had to listen to some metal! So logged on drunk whilst I was at it ^_^ 12:25:08 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-60-227-105-136.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]] 12:30:30 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-132.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:30:36 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-132.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 12:35:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8556 /branches/newhouses/src/ (7 files in 2 dirs): 12:35:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: [NewHouses] -Cleanup: Remove an unused macro, don't worry about calling free() 12:35:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: on NULL pointers, make some more pointers const, use "for (int i..." if 12:35:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: appropriate, remove some redundant asserts, add/fix callback comments and don't 12:35:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: use {BEGIN,END}_TILE_LOOP. 12:38:16 *** roboboy_ [~leo@c211-30-195-152.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:39:44 <roboboy> gnight 12:40:21 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 12:41:21 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 12:45:59 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 12:50:09 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:56:26 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2AFK 13:03:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8559 /trunk/src/ (5 files): 13:03:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 13:03:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Put the airport movement data into struct AirportFTAClass 13:06:15 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-227.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:12:16 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:13:33 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-123.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:50 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:55 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 13:27:42 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:27:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:27:58 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 13:28:01 *** setrodox_ is now known as setrodox 13:37:38 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:40:40 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [] 13:40:58 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:41:04 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42:02 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:42:11 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has left #openttd [] 13:42:53 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 13:55:14 <scia> 14:52:49 < sarah_pilot> Akalamanaia: ..well its a bug if you sell a wagon and get 77 billion 14:02:18 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 14:02:24 <peter1138> inflation? heh 14:02:49 <scia> apparently not :) 14:03:32 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2C60C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 14:08:27 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 14:12:56 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 14:26:30 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:28:09 <izhirahider> STR_RESET_LANDSCAPE_TOOLTIP : Remove all player-owned property from the map ; I can't locate this in-game, is this supposed to wipe out *all* players owned properties, or just one specific ? 14:28:14 <izhirahider> I mean, "all player owned property" can mean I want to remove all my property from a game, and can mean all property from all players 14:28:27 <izhirahider> I assume this is for network play, which I don't usually play because I'm always with svn 14:36:29 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@59.167.214.242] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:37:00 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 14:37:24 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:38:22 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:21 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.244] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 14:48:51 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2C60C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:21:21 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:21 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:27 *** Sacro [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 15:45:29 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 16:00:50 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm173.sigma118.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 16:18:45 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 16:21:28 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:11 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:55:34 *** Digitalfox_ [~chatzilla@bl8-41-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 16:58:24 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1174.bb.online.no] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:03:35 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-1174.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 17:07:29 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:09:46 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:12:56 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 17:27:07 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E981.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:29:13 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E981.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:27 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.74 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]] 17:50:03 * Maedhros has been playing with gigajum's bridge upgrade patch, and i've updated it a bit 17:50:11 <Maedhros> anyone want to test it? http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/bridge_upgrade.diff 17:57:45 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:25:06 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8562 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-02-03 19:51:53 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 1 changed by fukumori (1) 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 78 fixed, 1 changed by tperic (79) 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 15 changed by Neonox (15) 18:56:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: portuguese - 4 fixed by izhirahider (4) 18:56:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: russian - 10 fixed by DarkFenX (10) 19:05:05 <izhirahider> humpf 19:08:06 <peter1138> hmm? 19:16:55 *** gass [~any@81.84.150.85] has joined #openttd 19:21:34 <izhirahider> peter1138, I was just frustrated for wanting to translate something and not being able to find it in the game 19:23:02 *** Arie^ [asdfsadf@arie.adsl.utwente.nl] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )] 19:30:24 <ln-> http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZHhAfCPOsQc 19:32:53 *** ufoun [~opera@85.207.18.146] has joined #openttd 19:35:15 <peter1138> jato take-off 19:35:25 <peter1138> redundant redundantism 19:38:05 <ln-> http://www.kuvaton.com/kuvei/vista_ongelma.gif 19:38:47 <Ailure> haha 19:38:56 <Ailure> Joy of tech seemed a little bit lame due to it's mac love for me 19:38:58 <Ailure> but that one is good 19:39:17 <peter1138> if i see that link one more time i'll shoot someone 19:40:22 <Ailure> Don't shoot the kitty ;_; 19:40:31 <Ailure> Shoot people who refer themself in 3rd person 19:40:33 <Ailure> ...oh wait 19:41:45 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 19:57:21 <Wolf01> 'night all 19:57:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@87.2.235.203] has quit [] 20:01:11 <Tron> MiHaMiX: 20:01:12 <Tron> +STR_SEND_ROAD_VEHICLE_TO_DEPOT : 20:01:12 <Tron> +STR_SEND_SHIP_TO_DEPOT : 20:01:16 <Tron> (croatian) 20:02:22 <MiHaMiX> Tron: grr, thanks 20:02:50 <Tron> russian.txt seems odd 20:02:53 <MiHaMiX> Tron: i'm going to enforce translators to write something into the field if the length of the template string is bigger than 0 20:02:54 <Tron> -############ range for menu starts 20:02:55 <Tron> +############ range for menu starts 20:02:57 <Tron> multiple times 20:03:04 <MiHaMiX> yes, that's completely ok 20:03:13 <Tron> huh? 20:03:32 <Tron> explain 20:03:45 <MiHaMiX> a translator replaced the comments with a manual patch accidentally (space -> tab) 20:04:15 <MiHaMiX> and WT2 enforces the original comments found in english.txt 20:04:37 <MiHaMiX> so that doesn't really matter, it has been wrote back to the original 20:04:39 <Tron> uh... 20:04:49 <Tron> interesting question: why are there tabs in english.txt? 20:04:52 <MiHaMiX> no tabs 20:05:03 <Tron> there are tabs 20:05:03 <MiHaMiX> or.. really 20:05:36 <MiHaMiX> i don't know :) 20:05:36 <MiHaMiX> WT2 just enforces the comments found in english.txt 20:06:04 <Tron> hm, lets see where this originates 20:06:10 <MiHaMiX> if one change the comment (outside WT2, of course), it'll propagate the change to every language at the next time when the given language is committed 20:06:10 <Tron> hmmm 20:06:29 <Tron> r1 20:06:29 <Tron> i'll fix it 20:06:29 <MiHaMiX> lol :D 20:06:33 <MiHaMiX> it's a historical stuff most probably then 20:06:52 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D52E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:09:31 <MiHaMiX> Tron: btw, if you are there, could you please remove that to empty translations from croatian.txt? 20:10:02 <Tron> sure 20:10:13 <MiHaMiX> thanks 20:10:38 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0E981.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8563 /trunk/src/lang/ (38 files in 2 dirs): 20:11:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 20:11:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Replace very old tabs which should be spaces by spaces 20:12:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8564 /trunk/src/lang/unfinished/croatian.txt: 20:12:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 20:12:08 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Remove incorrect empty translations 20:13:05 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202-154-151-60.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 20:14:50 *** Nigel [~nigel@202-154-151-60.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8565 /trunk/src/lang/origveh.txt: 20:15:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 20:15:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Fix indentation 20:20:29 <MiHaMiX> Tron: thanks 20:25:28 <Tron> 1419:STR_NETWORK_ERR_DESYNC :{WHITE} Network-Game synchronisation failed 20:25:29 <Tron> 1420:STR_NETWORK_ERR_LOSTCONNECTION :{WHITE} Network-Game connection lost 20:25:31 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090BFC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:25:34 <Tron> this doesn't look bulgarian 20:27:10 <Tron> 3051:STR_RANDOM :{BLACK}Randomise 20:27:12 <Tron> catalan? 20:27:53 <MiHaMiX> hmm 20:28:00 <MiHaMiX> remove these as well if possible 20:28:09 <[gen2]niki> can anyone send me good gamesettings? 20:40:37 <Eddi|zuHause> TT is a game, where "good" differs heavily on style of play 20:41:53 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2C60C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 20:47:56 <Maedhros> any comments on http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/bridge_upgrade.diff ? 20:47:56 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-58-173.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:48:14 <Maedhros> basically it allows you to upgrade bridges by building a new one on top of the old one 20:48:44 <Maedhros> you can change your bridges to anything you want, and you can upgrade town bridges to a bridge with a higher speed only 20:49:21 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p5090BFC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 20:49:58 <Maedhros> 2 questions though: should you be allowed to upgrade bridges with vehicles on them, and should there be a base cost to add to the cost of the new bridge? 20:50:34 <Tefad> charge should be destruction of old bridge + cost new bridge 20:50:42 <Tefad> vehicles should be absent 20:50:54 * Tefad shrugs 20:52:33 <Eddi|zuHause> err... i think it should be cheaper to upgrade a bridge than to destroy it and rebuild it completely from scratch 20:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a similar patch in the MiniIN 20:54:15 <Maedhros> if it was by gigajum, this is update of that patch 20:54:18 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: right, but only slightly, i.e. the cost to 'buy' (become owner of) the tile should not be charged again 20:54:23 * Maedhros investigates 20:54:36 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, it was gigajum's i believe 20:55:27 <Maedhros> you don't get charged to buy the land again 20:56:50 <Eddi|zuHause> and i think enforcing no vehicle present is IMHO an artificial limitation, and as annoying as with upgrading to elrails 21:01:56 <izhirahider> Maedhros, does your patch allows to build bridges over road-built slopes? 21:02:20 <Maedhros> road-built slopes? what are they? 21:02:56 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:04:26 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-224-207.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 21:11:04 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 21:11:08 *** ufoun [~opera@85.207.18.146] has left #openttd [] 21:13:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: tron * r8566 /trunk/src/lang/ (8 files): 21:13:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix 21:13:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Remove untranslated strings 21:13:40 <Maedhros> ok, so what should the upgrade cost be? 21:15:03 <hylje> % of the new bridge 21:15:37 <Maedhros> that's going to be a lot messier to code than something static... 21:15:49 <Maedhros> a pecentage of the cost of the _old_ bridge would be ok though 21:17:40 <Rubidium> just the cost to destroy the old bridge and to build the new bridge without the cost to 'buy' the begin and end tile 21:18:32 <Maedhros> the cost of buying a tile is basically the cost of clearing it, isn't it? 21:18:49 <Rubidium> no 21:18:53 *** ufoun [~opera@85.207.18.146] has joined #openttd 21:19:46 <Maedhros> ... 21:20:12 <Maedhros> then what is it, because i can't see any other costs that aren't directly related to the bridge 21:20:41 *** ufoun [~opera@85.207.18.146] has quit [] 21:24:42 <Rubidium> hmm, apparently it does not explicitly pay for the ramp tiles 21:26:21 <Rubidium> then I would suggest to not pay for the ramps, i.e. substract 2 from bridge_len when calculating the price (tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp:388) 21:29:40 <Maedhros> hmm, that's going to mean messing about with bridge_gui.cpp too :-/ 21:30:05 <Rubidium> why? 21:31:32 <Maedhros> because for the build bridge window, the "base" is calculated once by calling CmdBuildBridge with flags |= DC_QUERY_COST, and then the cost of each bridge is calculated in bridge_gui.cpp and added to that 21:31:55 <Maedhros> rather than running CmdBuildBridge $number_of_bridges times 21:33:43 <Maedhros> thus, i'd prefer something that doesn't depend on the type of the new bridge being built :) 21:37:08 <Rubidium> ah, there is no need to do the clear and terraform costs for upgrading the bridge 21:39:13 <Maedhros> yup, the patch already skips those :) 21:39:13 <Rubidium> so you can 'just' ignore those costs when upgrading the bridge 21:39:53 <Rubidium> then I would suggest to not add any more tricks to reduce the cost for upgrading 21:40:43 <Maedhros> right, so here's the current patch: http://dev.gentoo.org/~maedhros/openttd/bridge_upgrade.diff 21:41:03 <Maedhros> it is just the cost of removing the old bridge, + the price of building the new one, with no land clearing or terraforming 21:41:33 <Maedhros> the price of removing bridges is ludicrously low though... e.g. £185 to remove an £8,000 bridge... 21:41:38 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB656E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:44:07 <peter1138> all that scrap metal to sell 21:44:14 <peter1138> or wood to burn, heh 21:44:49 <Eddi|zuHause> bridges are way too cheap anyway 21:45:15 <peter1138> not with pb_build :D 21:45:37 <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, wood bridges may be cheap, but the price should go up steeply with max speed 21:47:31 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:47:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 21:47:55 *** Mizipzor [Mizipzor@c-8a6370d5.020-16-6b736810.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:12 <Bjarni> I got a great bug report today. The bug reporter figured out that he bug reported a feature, not a bug :D 21:50:24 <Zavior> :D 21:55:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8567 /trunk/src/tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp: 21:55:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature: Allow upgrading bridges by building a new bridge over the top. (Based on a patch by gigajum) 21:55:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - The replacement bridge must be the same transport type, and if it's a rail bridge it must have the same railtype. 21:55:18 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: - Town owned bridges can also be upgraded, but only to a bridge with a higher top speed. 22:05:31 <Bjarni> When setting the game to 32bpp it doesn't list 32bpp resolutions <--- o_O 22:05:36 <Bjarni> what's that all about? 22:05:58 <Bjarni> KeeperOFTheSoul.... he is not here right now 22:06:09 <Bjarni> I will have to ask him later 22:07:55 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: maedhros * r8568 /branches/newhouses/src/ (newgrf_house.cpp openttd.cpp town_cmd.cpp): [NewHouses] -Fix: Only count buildings after the map array has been updated, when the house id and town index will be correct. 22:11:13 <Maedhros> good night 22:16:57 <Sacro> night Maedhros 22:25:17 *** Purno [~Purno@5351CF18.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 22:41:30 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 22:44:46 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-20.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:59:11 *** Wolfenstiejn [~wolf@a61145.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: I'm gone, bye bye :)] 23:07:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D654.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:33 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387DE48.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:10:33 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C2C4.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:19:58 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:20:17 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 23:24:13 *** dp_ [~dp@p54B2D47A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:29:50 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498F051.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:37 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has joined #openttd 23:32:27 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498DDE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:34 <_Ben_> hi...this is in relation to the forum...Sergej_S seems to have ignored repeated requests to stop taking preview images by printscreening and using them as thought they are released. He really doesn't have a clue what I'm saying, or doens't bother to translate it. What the hell should I do? cause its kinda iritating that hes using my unrealeased stuff regardless of requests. 23:43:51 <Rubidium> just make a clear statement that you do not want him to use your images (in the thread where he used your images) and say that he has to remove his previews and 'grfs' that use your images 23:44:42 <Rubidium> maybe make some feasible deadline for removing the images, and if he fails to comply, you need to tell somebody who has enough rights on the forum to actually do something about it 23:45:14 <_Ben_> I don't really want to be threatening about it, but I have requested it twice, and answered his pm saying that he should wait until there done 23:45:53 <Rubidium> _Ben_: on the forum itself, or via a PM on the forum? 23:46:39 <_Ben_> twice on the forum itself, (and 2 other less blunt), then once in a pm on the forum 23:50:39 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC6F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51:28 <Rubidium> then I think you should notify a moderator about it (via a PM), list of moderators: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=13377 23:52:47 <_Ben_> erk, ok.. well thanks 23:53:07 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53:35 *** e1ko [~L@161.157.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 23:54:08 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-58-173.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:54:30 <_Ben_> I did think about that, alltaken is kinda the person to ask, but hes not around...seems kinda too petty to go wining to another moderator..I'll post another blunt repsonce first I think. Cheers 23:56:17 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has left #openttd [Leaving]