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00:05:54 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-150-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:10:41 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-138-130-149-27.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 00:12:42 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.227] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:17:27 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:52 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CF67.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:19:47 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #openttd [] 00:20:09 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 00:25:15 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-150-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 00:33:09 *** writers [~writers@ABordeaux-256-1-192-214.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 00:37:59 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-202.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:38:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bjarni * r8685 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: 00:38:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature: selecting "end of orders" and clicking delete will delete all the vehicle's orders 00:38:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: If the orders are shared, then it will still unshare the orders like before. 00:45:03 *** xyz [~ss@bas2-montreal02-1167854170.dsl.bell.ca] has left #openttd [] 00:48:19 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:11:04 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85.124.173.78] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11:29 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:18:28 *** writers [~writers@ABordeaux-256-1-192-214.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: Quitte] 01:19:13 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:31:00 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:15:27 *** Zahl [~SENFGURKE@p549F4840.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: YOU! It was you wasn't it!?] 02:18:34 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:12 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:31:08 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75B53.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:36:50 <ln-> DAMNIT 02:37:33 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B754AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:51:06 <ln-> aa'dfvod ifbnoaajfgmbafg 02:51:50 <ln-> just great, './configure && make && ./openttd' is not enough to run the game anymore 02:54:17 <ThePizzaKing> with svn it's now ./bin/openttd 02:54:21 <Sacro> :o 02:54:58 <Sacro> indeed it is... 02:54:58 <Sacro> ln -s ./bin/openttd . 02:57:03 <ln-> so it seems to be 03:11:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 03:15:59 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:17:32 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:31:07 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:29 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:49:29 *** BFM [~chatzilla@CPE-138-130-149-27.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:09:16 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:44 *** Brianetta_again [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 04:17:36 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:27:02 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:31:40 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:14 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:47:45 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 04:49:01 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:05:23 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm173.sigma118.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 05:52:34 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 05:54:10 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 06:45:13 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:46:27 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489E26C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:57:41 *** McHawk [~hawk@p5489C8C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:00:45 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:25:56 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 07:26:48 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 07:38:02 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 07:42:29 *** GoneWack1 [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:43:18 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:43:18 *** GoneWack1 is now known as GoneWacko 07:50:11 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:39 *** TPK [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:56:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> ln-: 'make run' 07:57:54 <Tron> total pita 07:59:06 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-244.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 08:03:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i did not invent the new system, but i'd imagine that it was so 'make clean' reduces to delete objs/ and 'make install' to copy bin/ 08:03:29 <Eddi|zuHause2> although i do not know if it actually achieves this ;o 08:05:24 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:11:28 *** bubersson [~bubersson@mnisek.casablanca.cz] has joined #openttd 08:13:36 <bubersson> Do anybody have any contact to SAC? I'm gonna ask her, if I could use his roads set. 08:14:28 <bubersson> *hers 08:15:39 *** TPK is now known as ThePizzaKing 08:17:12 <bubersson> (Do you thing shes gonna say yes? I've coded grf from it) 08:29:18 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:39:09 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 08:43:55 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm136.sigma117.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 09:01:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8686 /trunk/src/lang/ (7 files): (log message trimmed) 09:01:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-02-12 10:00:57 09:01:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 3 fixed, 59 deleted, 1 changed by Hadez (63) 09:01:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 40 changed by Skiper (36), glx (4) 09:01:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: icelandic - 88 fixed, 25 changed by scrooge (113) 09:01:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: italian - 3 changed by sidew (3) 09:01:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: portuguese - 22 changed by izhirahider (22) 09:18:37 <Alltaken> hey guys 09:19:51 *** Wolfy [~wolf@a61145.upc-a.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:26:35 *** Tron_ [58HWfJiF@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has joined #openttd 09:31:38 *** green-devil [~rendmig@0x57355979.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:34:49 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 09:34:52 <Darkvater> hello everyone :) It seems I've survived ^^ 09:34:57 <blathijs> ey Darkvater 09:36:17 <Desolator> howdy 09:37:39 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:07 <Darkvater> it seems I've missed quite some repository action last week :) 09:39:23 * Desolator is sad 09:40:43 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:42:31 <blathijs> Darkvater: Could you add the .debs to SF? 09:42:40 <blathijs> 2d9b94d52703df311ef6569179ec9ad3 openttd-0.5.0-RC5-amd64.deb 09:42:40 <blathijs> a2a9fb7d14e873b45be918fe1197b9ea openttd-0.5.0-RC5-i386.deb 09:42:54 <Darkvater> blathijs: I would if I were home, sadly I am not 09:43:08 <blathijs> hmm 09:43:22 <Darkvater> hmm, they're already uploaded no? 09:43:31 <blathijs> Darkvater: I just uploaded them 09:43:32 <Darkvater> I can do the SF part then I think 09:43:47 <blathijs> Didn't have time to build them before 09:54:02 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has quit [] 09:58:22 <Darkvater> blathijs: uploaded@SF 10:02:42 <blathijs> Darkvater: I see you added them to the site too. Thanks! 10:03:19 <Darkvater> yep, 1 good deed done today 10:03:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8687 /branches/0.5/ (bridge.h tunnelbridge_cmd.c water_cmd.c): [0.5] -Fix [FS#617]: assertion when getting the height of a bridge from the ramp tile. 10:10:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat2.arachne.cz] has joined #openttd 10:12:02 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 10:23:26 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 10:28:31 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 10:28:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 10:29:58 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 10:35:48 <ln-> make run... ok. but gah, how does one easily debug that, or is there a damn "make gdb" target as well? 10:38:49 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:41:52 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@c19015.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:43:25 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: egladil * r8688 /branches/32bpp/src/ (gfx.h main_gui.cpp openttd.h spriteloader32.cpp viewport.cpp): [32bpp] -Feature: Added an extra zoom out level. 10:48:44 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80D7C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:32 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80579.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:51:36 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 11:13:47 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 11:15:20 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 11:22:47 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:29:07 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:43:49 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 11:51:59 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 11:52:18 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:54:44 *** Sacro [~Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:03:41 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:10:10 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F42D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:46 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:03 <boekabart_> egladil: how did you implement the extra zoom level? (since it's currently kinda 0-based for the max zoom level..) 12:12:51 <egladil> i it's a zoom out level, so i just increased the max from 2 to 3 12:13:02 <boekabart_> ah, easy :) 12:13:29 <egladil> the tricky part will be adding new ones at the other end :) 12:13:50 <boekabart_> that's why I asked :) how are you planning to do the 'larger' base-size? 12:14:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E73D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:27 <boekabart_> an option could be changing all the current sizes to 2x/4x as big and callig that 0, right 12:14:35 *** PandaMojo__ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 12:16:38 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:16:46 *** PandaMojo__ is now known as PandaMojo 12:17:41 <egladil> i'm planning on shifting them down 12:17:50 <egladil> so current 0 will be new 2 12:18:29 <egladil> the 8bpp loader is almost able to handle that already, it just needs an upscaler 12:19:23 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC636A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:19:28 <egladil> it will probably need some tinkering to not make menus and stuff look strange though 12:19:35 *** michi_cc [04962961f4@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Server closed connection] 12:20:38 *** michi_cc [74cb4ee4ee@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 12:20:39 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 12:20:58 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:24:05 <boekabart_> egladil: yeah, how to decide to only do the scaling for 'world' sprites 12:26:03 <boekabart_> egladil: another thing: no, tow: (1) what's the plan regarding animations (to replace palette animations mainly), and (2) how to add pre-rendered zoom levels to the info/tar format...? 12:27:54 <egladil> animation will probably be done by selecting the sprite to return for a certain sprite id with a timer 12:28:52 <egladil> and pre-rendered zoom levels was supported for 32bpp sprites until i borked it yesterday. it will be fixed again sometime soon 12:29:57 <egladil> but now i have to go to school. (nihongo no kurasu ni ikimasu.) 12:34:26 <boekabart_> egladil: if you're still there: how was it supported? auto-replace _z0 by _z1, _z2 in filename? 12:35:26 <boekabart_> is there any documentation on the 32bpp tar format, is it fully defined already? 12:45:40 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-213.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:52:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8689 /trunk/src/openttd.cpp: -Fix [FS#613] (r8619): crash when an old savegame had buoys on the northern edge of the map. 12:53:54 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:20 *** Purno [~Purno@5351C5C5.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 13:11:11 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:27 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm136.sigma117.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418]] 13:13:11 *** blindwaves [~woogleman@cm136.sigma117.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 13:21:30 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 13:21:35 *** ln- [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 13:37:31 <ln-> http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2007/02/trivial-remote-solaris-0day-disable.html 13:43:52 <Roel> ln-, woops 13:45:32 <Roel> and people still aren't smart enough to disable telnet by default... 13:46:25 <ln-> well, telnet _usually_ is not a security hole, except in this case. 13:46:45 <Maedhros> doesn't telnet send passwords in cleartext? 13:46:53 <Roel> well, I think that sending passwords in cleartext over any network is a securityhole.. 13:47:00 <ln-> yeah, but only if you use it. 13:47:34 <Roel> and if you don't use it you can disable it.. :) 13:48:32 <ln-> you can e.g. have it running and safely access it from your private network and never from the outside world. 13:49:36 <Roel> true, that's a good reason.. (My accesspoint here only has telnet access).. But then block those ports with a firewall, alowing only connections from inside 13:51:03 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:51:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:53:35 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:42 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 14:00:58 *** Darkvater [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 14:01:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Darkvater] by ChanServ 14:21:05 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p50909E7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:25:37 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:25:58 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:26:19 *** davidpk212 [~david@gw.squiggle.org] has joined #openttd 14:26:48 *** [gen2]niki [~niki@p50909E7D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 14:36:56 <Belugas> hey there 14:37:02 <Belugas> Darkvater, ping 14:37:17 <lolman> Ello all :) 14:39:26 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: ChrisM87, blindwaves, davidpk212, ln-, Progman, Purno, Mucht, @Darkvater 14:39:38 *** Netsplit over, joins: davidpk212, @Darkvater, ln-, blindwaves, Purno, ChrisM87, Progman, Mucht 14:50:25 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2921A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:53:10 <egladil> [12 13:34 CET] boekabart_ egladil: if you're still there: how was it supported? auto-replace _z0 by _z1, _z2 in filename? <== something like that yes 14:53:31 <egladil> and no, it is not yet documented as it is not done yet 14:53:59 <davidpk212> how's 32bit going egladil? 14:54:10 <egladil> forward 14:54:36 <Neonox> Tron ping 15:19:38 *** Maedhros is now known as I 15:19:53 *** I is now known as Maedhros 15:28:13 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has joined #openttd 15:35:57 *** Klanticus [~klanticus@201-27-192-253.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 15:49:11 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-104-141.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:55:38 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 15:55:53 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-184-188.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:56:20 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 16:00:47 *** Rens2Sea is now known as Rens2AFK 16:03:23 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 16:03:25 <Gorre> morning. 16:03:51 <scrooge> afternoon 16:04:05 <scrooge> my time is 16:03 16:04:06 <scrooge> ;) 16:04:16 <Gorre> 17:05 there. 16:04:39 <lolman> MorNING!! 16:04:55 <lolman> (It's 16:04 here) 16:05:46 <Roel> 'evening :) 16:05:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> [17:04] <scrooge> my time is 16:03 <- something is wrong ;) 16:06:02 <scrooge> :o 16:06:11 <lolman> Hehe Eddi 16:06:11 <scrooge> oh no, i just missed out an hour :s 16:06:27 <scrooge> got to speed things up a bit... 16:06:43 <lolman> scrooge: Eddi is in Germany ;-) 16:06:56 <scrooge> hehe, yeah, i figured.. 16:07:14 <caladan> use ntp and set the proper date and time :P 16:07:22 * lolman has :P 16:07:27 <hylje> i has :P 16:07:37 <caladan> i has tu :P 16:08:42 <scrooge> well, i guess some of you know something about c++ 16:08:58 <caladan> hmm, probably :P 16:09:15 <hylje> lets overuse :P until bjarni gets annoyed :P 16:09:20 <scrooge> so i was wondering if you knew some possible reason for the clock() function is fucked up in my computer 16:09:22 <hylje> then we overuse :P it it more :p 16:09:49 <caladan> clock? :> 16:10:00 <scrooge> hmm.. 16:10:12 <lolman> scrooge: maybe because your time is set wrong :P 16:10:22 <scrooge> yes, i'm using it to caculate the fps thingy 16:10:28 <scrooge> good point... 16:10:42 <lolman> If it's being used to calculate FPS it shouldn't make a difference 16:10:47 <Roel> or the internal clock in your computer can be crewed :) 16:11:00 <lolman> As long as it isn't falling further behind or moving too quickly 16:11:13 <scrooge> is there maybe some other methods to use to calculate the time that has passed in a program? 16:11:32 * lolman isn't a programmer, so doesn't know 16:11:57 <scrooge> damnit, guess i'll have to dig deeper into google... 16:11:59 * lolman is also wondering whether to use KDE or GNOME lol 16:12:22 * scrooge votes for KDE 16:12:44 * Maedhros votes for wmii, but doesn't think many people will side with him ;) 16:12:52 <lolman> I like the OpenSUSE K menu, but I don't know if I can get that in Ubuntu 16:13:03 <scrooge> then use kubuntu ;) 16:13:17 <lolman> I have KDE installed ;-) 16:13:44 <scrooge> ah, i misunderstood :p 16:14:45 * Roel votes for os x.. :P 16:14:56 <lolman> Haha 16:15:07 * lolman has found the OpenSUSE K menu...YAY! 16:15:24 <lolman> BRB! 16:15:31 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:15:39 * scrooge votes for kde+xgl 16:15:52 <scrooge> much cooler than os x ;-) 16:16:09 <hylje> xgl is overrated 16:16:17 <hylje> rather just use e 16:16:26 <scrooge> e? 16:16:50 <hylje> enlightenment.org 16:17:16 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:17:25 <lolman> There :) 16:18:17 <hylje> i would SO want a dual-proc system 16:18:22 <hylje> this p4 sux 16:18:38 <lolman> hylje: my Linux box is on an Athlon XP 2400+ 16:18:39 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has quit [Quit: Socially inept? You bet I am!] 16:19:55 <hylje> this is the second-most powerful box 16:20:25 <lolman> Same here 16:21:16 <lolman> I saw you in #ubuntu earlier ;-) 16:22:26 <Roel> hylje, those new intel core 2 duo's are nice. :) 16:22:38 <hylje> :o 16:23:03 <hylje> i considered switching this to ubuntu but as said backup problems kinda stopped me 16:23:26 <lolman> Yeah, what's it running atm? 16:25:04 <hylje> gentoo 16:25:18 <hylje> it was so outdated and mixedly stable 16:25:26 <hylje> so would have been a pain to upgrade 16:25:49 <hylje> but now im up installing wow :-) 16:26:22 <lolman> Never tried Gentoo, don't think I want to either 16:26:39 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2921A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: bin wech....] 16:27:14 <caladan> Gentoo ruxx :D 16:27:19 <caladan> im running gentoo now 16:27:23 <hylje> gentoo makes for easy tweaking 16:27:41 <caladan> yup 16:27:46 <caladan> and has nice tools 16:27:52 * lolman is a relative Linux n00b, so no point me trying 16:31:07 <Roel> but a hell to maintain :) 16:32:27 <caladan> really? 16:32:40 <lolman> Yanno, Beryl runs really well on this rather useless system :P 16:32:52 <lolman> Geforce 6200 FTL 16:36:44 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:46 *** TronBSD [~tron@p54A3D5B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:39:56 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 16:43:26 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3F62C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:52 <lolman> Oh Noes 16:47:51 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:47:54 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C56D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:52:06 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:59:46 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:01:56 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 17:03:45 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:09:04 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: Sacro_, ChrisM87, blindwaves, Progman, ln-, davidpk212, Purno, Mucht, @Darkvater, TronBSD 17:09:11 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro_, TronBSD, davidpk212, @Darkvater, ln-, blindwaves, Purno, ChrisM87, Progman, Mucht 17:30:32 *** Rens2AFK [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:32:33 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 17:35:03 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 17:38:21 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 17:38:40 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl8-41-193.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:41:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:41:51 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #openttd 17:41:53 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:43:37 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has joined #openttd 17:43:58 *** Tron_ [58HWfJiF@nat-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:45:22 <_Ben_> Hi 17:45:48 <_Ben_> Does the wiki.openttd not display external images anymore? on the 32bpp page there all just text (hyperlinks) 17:46:08 <_Ben_> http://wiki.openttd.com/index.php/GUI_%28New_Graphics%29 17:48:08 <Rubidium> external images are more likely to disappear 17:49:00 <_Ben_> the images still exsist if you follow the links. Its just the wiki not displaying them. They did display last time I looked 17:49:53 <Rubidium> it's just that this way people are more 'enforced' not to use external files I guess 17:51:42 <_Ben_> ok. Is it considered 'ok' to take the linked image and put them on the wiki itself? 17:52:56 <Rubidium> good question, one I've got no definitive answer on 17:56:22 <_Ben_> alright, thanks. I'll ask Born Acorn when hes around. It says he is the 'SysOp' 17:56:43 *** nfc_ [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:56:55 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:59:36 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 18:05:37 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 18:21:22 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-141.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:21:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@82.58.208.115] has joined #openttd 18:21:39 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@i5387C56D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 18:21:42 <Wolf01> hello 18:22:48 <BobingAbout> hello 18:22:57 <BobingAbout> I've not stopped here in ages 18:23:20 <BobingAbout> i've not even stopped by the forums in weeks 18:24:49 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:25:04 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25:17 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 18:27:05 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-61-130.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 18:29:58 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-228-141.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 18:30:47 *** boekabart [~boekabart@c97171.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:35:28 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:01 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:38:12 *** Rubidium [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 18:39:09 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Server closed connection] 18:39:10 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 18:44:36 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@82.58.208.115] has joined #openttd 18:44:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@82.58.208.115] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 18:44:37 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:44:48 <lolman> Wolf01: ello :) 18:45:04 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: ChrisM87, Sacro_, blindwaves, Progman, ln-, davidpk212, Purno, Mucht, @Darkvater, TronBSD 18:45:19 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro_, TronBSD, davidpk212, @Darkvater, ln-, blindwaves, Purno, ChrisM87, Progman, Mucht 18:45:24 <lolman> Hah 18:45:47 <Wolf01> ellololman 18:46:03 <Wolf01> mmm i have some wifi issues today 18:46:27 <lolman> If I have WiFi issues then both of my boxes will lose their net connections 18:49:36 <Sionide> same here 18:50:34 <lolman> One is actually on WiFi, the other one is on the other end of a network bridge with the wifi 18:54:48 <Wolf01> i think my problems are due to the channel 18:54:51 <Digitalfox> lolman: I have a Router + Mode, that serves my house, my server and desktop are connected to the router by gigabit switch and my laptop is connected by wireless, I must say that using my laptop has bedroom TV is cool, but it makes very angry when i can't see videos or surf the net when in bed, because of wireless problems :) 18:55:08 <Wolf01> the access point uses channel 11, the router uses the channel 1 18:55:18 <Wolf01> but i see the router in the channel 6 18:55:35 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: ChrisM87, Sacro_, blindwaves, Progman, ln-, davidpk212, Purno, Mucht, @Darkvater, TronBSD 18:55:35 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro_, TronBSD, davidpk212, @Darkvater, ln-, blindwaves, Purno, ChrisM87, Progman, Mucht 18:55:37 <Wolf01> nice 18:55:39 <Wolf01> XD 18:56:00 <Wolf01> i saw blue for a second and then green 18:56:18 <Digitalfox> Wolf01: Change the channel, but be carefull cause other neightbours may use that channel and make a signal problem 18:56:41 <Wolf01> i'm the only in my place with a wifi 18:56:51 <Digitalfox> I have a pc store in my building, and i had problems when they change channel 18:57:15 <Digitalfox> Remember that the channel can make a lot of meters 18:57:26 <Digitalfox> i mean the wireless signal 18:58:42 <Wolf01> seem thet the problem is when it changes speed ò_O 18:59:12 <Digitalfox> you use 54Mb? 18:59:16 <Digitalfox> or 11Mb? 19:00:40 <Wolf01> both 19:00:46 <Wolf01> the router uses 11 19:00:53 <Wolf01> err 54 19:01:02 <Wolf01> the access point uses 11 19:01:26 <Wolf01> yeah, pizza time, bbl 19:01:50 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 19:06:24 *** Klanticus [~klanticus@201-27-192-253.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:00 <Digitalfox> Jesus games are starting to became huge in GB's.. Mediaval II: Total War uses 8.1GB just for the instalation!! :| 19:08:19 <Digitalfox> Imagine downloading a nightly of openttd with 1 or 2 GB.. :\ 19:08:54 <caladan> naaah, that never gonna happen 19:09:08 <caladan> dont know what they put in to make it 8GB 19:09:22 <Digitalfox> Sound and Graphics ;) 19:09:34 *** scrooge [~balli@dsl-149-96-155.hive.is] has joined #openttd 19:09:43 <caladan> hmm, you mean like one month of music? :D 19:10:01 <caladan> and a map of whole earth with resolution of 1m? 19:10:01 *** ln-_ [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 19:10:08 *** davidpk2012 [~david@gw.squiggle.org] has joined #openttd 19:10:08 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3D5B0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:11 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A1E73D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:14 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F42D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:10:15 *** Sacro__ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 19:10:17 *** DarkSSHClone [~tfarago@tin.liacs.nl] has joined #openttd 19:10:21 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351C5C5.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:10:28 *** Netsplit osmotic.oftc.net <-> scorpio.oftc.net quits: ChrisM87, Sacro_, blindwaves, Progman, ln-, davidpk212, Purno, Mucht, @Darkvater, TronBSD 19:10:33 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 19:10:41 <Digitalfox> I still remember that the first (or one of the firsts ) exe of openttd was like 300k or 400k, now it's 2 MB, so maybe in 100 years it becames 1GB ;) lol 19:11:36 <caladan> is it stripped? :D 19:12:11 <caladan> hmm, it seems to be 19:12:20 <Digitalfox> stripped? 19:12:24 <caladan> but @ my machine it's only 1.5MB 19:12:29 <caladan> yep 19:12:38 <Digitalfox> what's stripped? 19:12:47 <caladan> openttd binary 19:12:56 <Digitalfox> 2MB on a nightly windows :) 19:13:09 <caladan> hmm, ok, 0.5.0rc5 on linux 64 19:14:10 <Digitalfox> Ok let's play Total war for the fisrt time.. Let's see how mutch time i spend on it and return to openttd.. ;) 19:14:46 <caladan> you will be back by midnight :P 19:15:40 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-227-2.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:16:36 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 19:16:47 *** stillunknown_ [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:23 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:18:38 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@82.58.208.115] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 19:18:38 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:18:47 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 19:18:54 <Wolf01> ok, now i should be more stable 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r8690 /trunk/src/lang/ (4 files): 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-02-12 20:18:38 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: lithuanian - 11 fixed, 1 changed by Domas (12) 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: slovak - 63 changed by lengyel (63) 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: traditional_chinese - 8 changed by thomasau (8) 19:19:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 1 changed by mad (1) 19:19:41 <Wolf01> yeah, map of whole earth with resolution of 1m 19:19:43 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:46 <Wolf01> i want it 19:20:05 <caladan> ask NASA :P 19:20:10 <caladan> or maybe US army :P 19:20:23 <davidpk2012> you want a 2048*1024 map, then 19:20:24 <Wolf01> i was thinking about using a system like google earth applied to ottd 19:20:34 <caladan> hmm? 19:20:44 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:50 <caladan> if i had time i would make nice map of Poland... 19:21:00 <Wolf01> something like 65535*65535 loaded in chunks 19:21:38 <caladan> huh... 19:21:39 <SpComb> turn OpenTTD into a MMOTG! 19:21:41 <caladan> what for? 19:21:46 <SpComb> Massive Multiplayer Online Tycoon Game 19:21:50 <caladan> with thousands of players! 19:21:59 <Wolf01> you play on a 2048*2048, when you move the viewport the game loads the other tiles and discard the previous tiles 19:22:09 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-58-173.dslaccess.co.uk] has quit [] 19:22:19 <davidpk2012> yay!!! 19:22:41 <caladan> hmm, that could be possible 19:22:49 <caladan> to have many serwers 19:22:55 <Wolf01> the only problem should be a nasa supercomputer which hosts the game 19:23:09 <caladan> and there would be a master server knowing about yer money and s on 19:23:19 <caladan> no, it would require many normal serwera 19:23:23 <caladan> servers 19:23:32 <Wolf01> cluster server, more servers mean more map :D 19:23:39 <Digitalfox> caladan: I'm back already, not really type of game, it's just more strategic unit moving and deployment.. I RTS that you actually build a base and then attack.. :| 19:23:56 <Digitalfox> not my type of game 19:24:05 <Digitalfox> I prefer RTS 19:24:24 <caladan> Digitalfox: what about good old Total Annihilation? 19:24:56 <Digitalfox> caladan: Well yeah, but i love warcraft, starcraft, that type of game :) 19:25:12 <caladan> TA is not good? 19:25:28 <caladan> shit, my cron doesnt work :/ 19:25:32 <Digitalfox> caladan: It's good :) 19:28:46 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Cron problems :/] 19:31:28 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has joined #openttd 19:32:05 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x53589005.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:32:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 19:41:38 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:46:30 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52:15 *** simmel [simmel@me-41-121-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:52:16 *** simmel [simmel@me-41-121-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #openttd 19:52:39 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:57:32 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:57:59 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 19:59:22 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has joined #openttd 19:59:34 * Desolator booms 20:01:14 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:02:56 *** Jerre [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 20:03:13 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 20:04:00 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 20:04:29 *** Desolator [~admin@86.126.43.192] has quit [] 20:04:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 20:07:46 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D198.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:08:05 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176109160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:09:56 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 20:10:11 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:10:33 <Maedhros> umm, wtf? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=30420 20:11:44 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F42D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:58 *** KeeperOfTheSoul [~a@dyn-62-56-58-173.dslaccess.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:17:06 *** Ben__ [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:18:45 *** Ben__ [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 20:19:05 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:20:30 <caladan> BOFH ^^ 20:22:03 <scrooge> bofh? 20:22:07 <scrooge> some new acronym? 20:22:26 <Rubidium> scrooge: no, a very old one 20:22:41 <Rubidium> from 1992 to be precise 20:22:45 <scrooge> hehe, ok 20:22:49 <scrooge> what does it stand for? 20:22:52 <scrooge> never seen it 20:23:06 <Rubidium> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOFH 20:23:39 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 20:24:00 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:24:54 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:21 <Wolf01> what should be the next (big) feature for OTTD? 20:34:00 <scrooge> teamspeak 20:34:05 <scrooge> deffenately teamspeak 20:34:06 <scrooge> :p 20:34:28 <Wolf01> oh, other than newhouses which is well known 20:35:52 <caladan> hmm, teamspeak is not needed :P 20:36:25 <scrooge> oh really ;) 20:37:22 <scrooge> seriosly speaking i've been thinking for a long time about how intercity transportations could be made more interesting 20:37:54 <scrooge> i wrote the town growth patch as a begginning for something in that direction 20:38:12 <caladan> hmm, trams :D 20:38:19 <KeeperOfTheSoul> metropolitan style maps with really large towns so you can't just run rail straight into the town? 20:38:20 <scrooge> exactly 20:38:33 <scrooge> yeah, something of that sort 20:38:42 <scrooge> and passenger destination 20:39:00 <scrooge> not the kind that is on the forums, i'm thinking sincity4 style 20:39:02 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:39:05 <caladan> hmm, yup, cargo && passenger dest. 20:39:12 <KeeperOfTheSoul> and spilt the large towns into regions, so that passengers want to go to different areas within the city? 20:39:13 <Wolf01> maybe roads should be revaluated, diagonal roads, better vehicles handling (no more blockades at stations/crossings) 20:39:25 <scrooge> that should have been simcity4 obviously.. 20:39:30 <Wolf01> yes... sincity <- 20:40:00 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Wolf01: that would be nice, proper busstations where the busses can leave via an different exit to entering 20:40:14 <scrooge> KeeperOfTheSoul: yes, something of that sort 20:40:45 <KeeperOfTheSoul> and you could then chain these together kind of like a station, each tile could support two busses, parked at diagonal 20:41:03 <scrooge> the busstations on the roads are very good addition to the game 20:41:58 <Wolf01> i meant like trains on rails, each road piece should have an hidden semaphore which allow one truck per time to enter the tile, maybe two, one ways roads and traffic lights at crossings 20:42:50 <Wolf01> maybe the "tiles with hidden semaphores" concept should be reviewed 20:43:03 <Belugas> [15:34] <scrooge> teamspeak <--- I wonder how we could do more about it :S We do talk to each other every day! 20:43:12 <Belugas> well... lamost everyone 20:43:23 <scrooge> and along with some system where you could design routes for the busses (with the passenger destination playing a big role) you could have an interesting challenge on how to manage the intercity traffic 20:43:27 <Belugas> *almost* 20:43:52 <scrooge> Belugas: where there is will, there is a way ;-) 20:44:07 *** Wolfy [~wolf@a61145.upc-a.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:44:24 <Belugas> will is something else... 20:44:32 <KeeperOfTheSoul> could be interesting as an extra challenge that towns that don't like you won't let you build anything in the area 20:44:54 <scrooge> exaclty, i think that you should have to make contracts 20:45:07 <scrooge> to service this town for the next 5 years or something 20:45:33 <scrooge> and if you do well you can continue, if you do badly some other company gets the rights for that city 20:45:43 <Wolf01> what i really need now is: adjacent stations join, transparency options, daylength, copy&paste, autosignal and programmable signals 20:46:58 <scrooge> heh, a bit smaller suggestions than i am making :p 20:47:09 <scrooge> but without doubt more needed.. 20:49:57 <KeeperOfTheSoul> could also be interesting if certain things like laying track and terraforming were not instant 20:51:14 <scrooge> that would put more emphasis on the designing of the tracks 20:51:36 <Wolf01> i always think before terraform or lay a track 20:51:44 <KeeperOfTheSoul> especially if terraforming took a while 20:51:57 <scrooge> might be interesting in multiplayer when you're designing 20:52:04 <KeeperOfTheSoul> bridges could also take a bit longer than normal track, and longer still if over water 20:52:15 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=552837#552837 do you think they really turn? 20:52:29 <KeeperOfTheSoul> which would encourage going round the obstical if the distance isn't too long 20:53:59 <Wolf01> yes gradual building should be great :D 20:54:30 <hylje> it would be somewhat lame too 20:54:31 <hylje> :b 20:55:05 * HMage would like if terraforming would be forbidden for new companies 20:55:06 <scrooge> wow, i didn't know there was so much work done on the 32bpp version :o 20:55:17 <KeeperOfTheSoul> i'd also say maintancence costs for tracks, etc to encourage more efficent routes 20:56:24 <HMage> there are maintenance costs for tracks, but they're not very high 20:57:21 <Wolf01> who remember the "rusty tracks" idea? 20:57:22 <Roel> HMage, nah, only for AI players..:) 20:57:44 <HMage> that would encourage planning the track routes 20:58:06 <HMage> and would prevent multiplayer vandalism 20:58:31 <HMage> where a vandal creates new company, then terraforms everything into sea level 21:00:57 <Wolf01> i think that idea might be usefull for "unused roads", on the roads start to grow grass and dirt if they aren't used, until they can be removed from any player... that shouldn't happen for city roads, but they can be removed too after some years if unused 21:01:29 <KeeperOfTheSoul> not city roads, you could count them as used by locals, and the town maintains them 21:01:50 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:02:22 <Wolf01> some people build roads for the cities, like me, and when you want to place something you can't because the roads are owned by a player 21:02:29 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5351C5C5.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:45 <KeeperOfTheSoul> Wolf01: they wouldn't be owned by the town though, so they wouldn't count 21:03:49 <KeeperOfTheSoul> maybe even roads left to rot next to a town road instead of going to unused, can be removed change to town owned? 21:04:16 <hylje> unused roads should either rot or be transferred to town 21:04:21 * caladan uses regexps :D 21:04:59 <Maedhros> there's an abandoned roads patch (based on the ttdpatch feature) somewhere 21:05:16 <KeeperOfTheSoul> hylje: yes, but depending on the context of where they are, the town owned road would spread down a length of unused road similar to the way land floods 21:06:15 <Wolf01> i think a similar idea should be used for rails too, sometimes i've seen in multiplayer that trolls use pieces of rail to block roads.. now with magic bridges that shouldn't be a big problem 21:07:34 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:07:45 <Wolf01> and with "any combo of rails over roads" that shouldn't really be a problem anymore 21:13:23 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:14:37 <Wolf01> i was thinking about layers, that should reduce the need of different sprites, but i don't know if it would mean performance loss 21:14:54 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-237-215.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:18:39 <scrooge> they could come in handy when you're adding a new feature, would reduce the amount of work needed 21:19:00 <scrooge> or could do that at least under some circumstances 21:19:04 *** Sacro|Laptop is now known as Sacro 21:23:37 <Wolf01> ok, i think i talked enough for today 21:26:02 <KeeperOfTheSoul> good idea, time for galactica 21:26:18 <Rubidium> new episode? 21:26:50 <KeeperOfTheSoul> no, my mate finally lent me the dvd set of season 2 21:27:00 <KeeperOfTheSoul> only took him a month :) 21:27:43 <Rubidium> that sucks, have fun watching though :) 21:28:48 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:42:24 *** Jerre [~jeroen@dD5772982.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:33 *** Sacro_ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has joined #openttd 21:47:09 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:47:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 21:47:15 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 21:47:39 *** Sacro__ [Ben@87.102.80.3] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:54:14 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:54:14 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Wolfolo|AWAY))] 21:54:41 <Wolfolo|AWAY> [10053] Software caused connection abort <- imho software is stupid 21:54:51 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 21:55:22 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: Darkvater * r8691 /trunk/src/ (14 files in 3 dirs): -Cleanup: Some proper #endif comments for sound/music/video files, and a little elimination of magic numbers in Win32SoundStart 21:58:15 *** boekabart [~boekabart@c97171.upc-c.chello.nl] has left #openttd [Your eyes grow heavy.. you grow very sleepy..... zzzz...] 22:00:21 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:03:57 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has joined #openttd 22:05:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host115-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:11:14 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@81.168.42.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:10 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 22:23:52 *** root [~root@87-194-2-213.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:24:08 *** root is now known as DaGeek 22:24:17 <DaGeek> Hello 22:24:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:19 <DaGeek> Hello All 22:25:40 <Bjarni> YAG 22:25:41 <DaGeek> Hello :-> 22:25:47 <Bjarni> hi geek 22:26:06 <DaGeek> this is the 1st time i have been on IRC in a very very Long time... 22:26:19 <Bjarni> and you call yourself a geek? 22:26:24 <DaGeek> lol 22:26:42 <DaGeek> im a coder and Server Admin by trade.. 22:26:51 <DaGeek> i dont have any time any more... 22:26:57 <DaGeek> :S 22:27:24 <Bjarni> how much does a server admin cost these days? 22:27:43 <DaGeek> lol, not enough :-p 22:30:45 <Sacro> Bjarni: what do you want to offer me ;) 22:31:52 <Bjarni> I don't want to buy one 22:32:06 <Sacro> well i shall offer my servieces for free 22:32:15 <DaGeek> dito.. 22:32:16 <Bjarni> I just made small talk with this travelling salesman, who happens to sell server admins and coders 22:32:21 <Bjarni> :P 22:32:25 * KeeperOfTheSoul must remember to try that tactic when hiring :) 22:33:01 <KeeperOfTheSoul> I'm sorry, I know we got you all the way down here, but we don't need an admin, so do you fancy working for free? 22:33:25 <Bjarni> that's not how to do it 22:33:49 <Bjarni> you can't ask them to work for free 22:33:58 <Bjarni> you make them ask you if it's ok to work for free 22:34:15 <Bjarni> there is a big difference 22:34:23 <KeeperOfTheSoul> ah, right, so I've got to bait them with large racks of flashing lights? 22:34:43 <Bjarni> now that would make me run away right away 22:35:06 <KeeperOfTheSoul> but the pretty light? 22:35:20 * Bjarni prefer darkness 22:35:30 <DaGeek> we do like the little lights... 22:35:49 * Bjarni wears sunglasses even on cloudy days 22:36:14 * KeeperOfTheSoul hangs garlic over Bjarni's door 22:36:42 * Bjarni orders it removed and KeeperOfTheSoul killed 22:37:20 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-78.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:37:51 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176109160.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.61 [Mozilla rv:1.7.12/20050915]] 22:38:25 <Bjarni> great book 22:39:00 <Bjarni> I decided to look up something from the lecture today (I prefer to understand everything from the lectures) and the index tells me it's page 80 22:39:11 <Bjarni> looking though the book it turns out to be on page 79 22:40:35 *** DaGeek [~root@87-194-2-213.bethere.co.uk] has left #openttd [] 22:42:24 <KeeperOfTheSoul> i see that often, normally means the keyword the index picks up on is on the other page 22:42:53 <Bjarni> it's a printed book and it cost a fortune :s 22:43:11 *** davidpk2012 [~david@gw.squiggle.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:46:05 <KeeperOfTheSoul> don't they all :) 22:46:36 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 22:46:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r8692 /trunk/src/roadveh_cmd.cpp: -Cleanup: add comments to RoadVehController. Patch by mart3p. 22:51:26 *** Brianetta_again is now known as Brianetta 22:53:44 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:54:16 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB6501.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 23:02:00 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 23:03:33 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has quit [Quit: HMage] 23:04:32 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.41] has joined #openttd 23:05:04 <Bjarni> http://www.filecabi.net/video/stopboobs10.html <-- boobs alert 23:05:23 <Bjarni> The Swedes actually made a formal complain about this one :D 23:06:01 * Bjarni wonders about making a formal complain to England 23:06:08 <Bjarni> you can risk meeting Sacro on the road 23:06:14 <Sacro> :o 23:06:40 <Bjarni> you can also risk meeting other Englishmen on the roads 23:10:16 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-195.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:11:07 <Bjarni> Sacro: are you ill? 23:11:28 <Sacro> i think i am 23:11:34 <Sacro> oooh... I SAW HER EARLIER 23:11:49 <Bjarni> you really appear to be 23:11:58 <Bjarni> you didn't respond to the word "boobs" 23:12:09 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: KUDr * r8693 /branches/cpp_gui/src/ (window.cpp window.h): [cpp_gui] -Fix: g++ compilation errors 'non-local function A uses local type B' (template arguments must have external linkage while local type has no linkage) 23:12:11 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E73D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:45 <KUDr> Bjarni: can you try it please ^^ ? 23:12:58 <Bjarni> sure 23:14:55 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i5387C0F7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:15:00 <Bjarni> works 23:15:09 <KUDr> good, thanks 23:15:24 <Bjarni> now I can mess it up with local modifications :P 23:15:56 <KUDr> but still not sure about those EnumT functions (if they are better than FOR_EACH_WINDOW) 23:16:32 <KUDr> Bjarni: you can continue turning Window related functions into methods 23:17:43 <Bjarni> that will for sure screw up stuff, but then again, worst case: I learn something :) 23:19:33 *** XeryusTC [~irc@217.123.58.238] has quit [] 23:21:19 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387C56D.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:47 *** bubersson [~bubersson@mnisek.casablanca.cz] has left #openttd [] 23:31:24 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498F034.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:24 *** nairan [~Maui_key@p5498FEBA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:36:57 *** Tuzzy [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 23:36:57 *** Tuzlo [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41:14 *** caladan [~caladan@161-be2-18.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:42:20 *** Tuzlo [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has joined #openttd 23:42:20 *** Tuzzy [~bill@blk-215-68-38.eastlink.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:08 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip63.cab84.tln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 23:57:23 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-83-100-173-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]