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This includes drive through road stops and excluded 'normal' road stations and road depots. 09:56:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9495 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.txt): [NoAI] -Add: add regression for AIAccounting() in AIVehicle() regression 09:58:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9496 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.txt): [NoAI] -Add: added regression for AITestMode() and AIExecMode() 10:08:06 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 10:14:39 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387ECF9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 10:17:50 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9497 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehicle.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: BuildVehicle showed 2 return values in .hpp doxygen comments 10:21:10 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387D066.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:22:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9498 /branches/noai/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 10:22:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NoAI] -Add: added regression for AITransactionMode() 10:22:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix: AITransActionMode() now substracts the costs he makes when executing, to keep the GetCosts in global space correct 10:22:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix: Reset NewVehicleID on building a vehicle 10:22:41 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update: remove the need for a local variable in ai_sign.cpp 10:33:46 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9499 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_sign.cpp: [NoAI] -Revert r9498: reverted part of ai_sign.cpp, as by policy this is the road we take 10:34:51 *** KUDr|wrk is now known as KUDr_wrk 10:35:34 *** Vikthor [novotv6@pc304-31.feld.cvut.cz] has left #openttd [] 10:38:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:43:02 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:47:49 *** maddy [~maddy@84.4.97.226] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 10:47:51 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 11:09:13 *** Morphy [~morphine@193.220.103.232] has joined #openttd 11:10:07 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:13:07 <TrueBrain> pompiedom 11:13:28 <SpComb> piedom 11:13:46 <TrueBrain> no: lalala 11:13:47 <TrueBrain> is the only valid reply on that 11:16:38 <SpComb> PIEEEE 11:18:43 * TrueBrain slaps SpComb 11:19:12 <SpComb> I've got fingers in many pies 11:26:14 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC503C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:33:44 *** maddy [~maddy@84.4.97.226] has joined #openttd 11:40:14 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 11:55:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9500 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ (ai_sign.hpp ai_vehicle.hpp): [NoAI] -Add: document behavoir in test-mode 11:56:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9501 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehicle.hpp: [NoAI] -Add: document that you can't assign orders to a vehicle build in test-mode 12:13:02 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:13:03 <Thomas[NL]> How about making another option in the Settings-menu to show the coverage area of all stations? 12:17:01 <ln-> impossible, you would have to rewrite half of the game. 12:17:01 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-62-167-46-220.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:17:18 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:18:22 <Thomas[NL]> ok 12:22:19 <ln-> or maybe not, but that's a safe answer. 12:32:39 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-174-119.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:34:08 <Mucht> wb ammler 12:34:14 <Mucht> whoops, wrong channel ;-) 12:35:12 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 12:37:22 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp254-65.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 12:37:25 *** Aloysha [~Aloysha@ppp254-65.lns3.syd6.internode.on.net] has quit [] 12:53:09 *** davis__ [~hi@dtmd-4db5f4e8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:25 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:59:20 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:00:45 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:00:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:19:16 *** thomas001 [~thomas@p54B7DD89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:20:44 <thomas001> hi,a quick ingame question. i used to build coverleaf intersections to cross 2 2-way (i mean one railway per direction) railways. is there a better way? (i hope game play related questions are right here...) 13:23:03 *** maad_ [~emade@82.160.115.202] has joined #openttd 13:23:04 *** maad [~emade@tk202.azylnet.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24:41 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 13:26:40 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:27:45 <peter1138> thomas001: there are better ways, yes 13:28:04 <peter1138> thomas001: but in my opinion, half the fun is designing your own efficient junctions... 13:29:32 <thomas001> peter1138: i've stolen the concept from german freeway intersections,it works quite well there ;) but seems like i should think again 13:30:48 <thomas001> thx ;) 13:33:48 <peter1138> the main problem with clover leafs is it joins before splitting 13:33:57 <peter1138> so can get locked up if it's congested 13:35:59 <Belugas> hello 13:36:24 <Zuu> one of the reson why it works on freeways is probably scale. At freeways vehicles are much shorter compared to the clover leafs than the trains in your clover leafs in OpenTTD. 13:37:12 <thomas001> hmm good point 13:39:12 <Zuu> Also the gap between cars IRL are much more flexible than the gaps between trains in OpenTTD. Another point is that the gap between cars are often longer than the length of an individual car. In OpenTTD the gap between trains can often be shorter than the trains. 13:40:45 <thomas001> i considered it very nice that openttd uses the cloverleaf also for turning 13:43:05 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9502 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/completeness.sh: [NoAI] -Add: script to check the 'completeness' of the regression test 13:44:44 <Thomas[NL]> peter, is it possible to add an option in the settings-menu to show the coverage area of all stations? 13:47:22 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9503 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/completeness.sh: [NoAI] -Fix r9502: use tmp.XXX for temporary file-names instead of XXX.txt 13:56:20 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9504 /trunk/configure: [Config] -Fix r9340: somehow a -n got mixed up with a -z (tnx glx) 13:58:05 <peter1138> i could add an option, but there's more to features tahn adding an option 13:58:26 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: truelight * r9505 /branches/noai/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Sync with trunk r9468:9504 13:59:25 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:02:39 *** Digitalfox[Work] [~chatzilla@bl7-182-203.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye Bye...] 14:04:15 <Belugas> would rather see a button <or something> on the station window itself 14:04:31 <Mucht> this could be a great patch for pax stations 14:06:34 <TrueBrain> and it is attempted many times, so far all failed :p 14:07:05 <Mucht> sounds challenging 14:09:33 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has quit [Quit: ) td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ (] 14:14:51 <izhirahider> xmoto 14:14:52 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:14:55 <izhirahider> ops 14:17:08 <Mucht> nice console, huh? 14:22:27 *** carwe [~carwe@p54B36C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:32:49 <ln-> http://users.tkk.fi/~mjantti/fun/Dubai1991.jpg -> http://users.tkk.fi/~mjantti/fun/Dubai2005.jpg 14:33:58 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-213-249-240-81.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:34:00 <hylje> ottd towns grow quicker 14:34:14 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-213-249-240-81.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 14:37:40 <Mucht> yes 14:48:20 <Ailure> ooh 14:48:29 <Ailure> found the oldest openTTD screenshot I have 14:48:34 <Ailure> http://194.47.44.229/oh%20shit.PNG 14:48:35 <Ailure> 3xD 14:48:54 <Ailure> I wanted to see how poenTTD look like at GBA resolution for some reason 14:49:03 <Ailure> *openTTD 14:49:25 <Belugas> nice :) 14:49:28 <Belugas> old memories 14:49:49 <Ailure> I think 0.3.6 was my first version 14:50:08 <hylje> screw gba, gief ottd port for ds 14:50:14 <Ailure> I remember how happy I was about finding out openTTD 14:50:20 <Ailure> and yeah, DS would be a more likely candiate for a port 14:50:40 <Ailure> I had ttdpatch before 14:50:48 <Ailure> but it always seemed so clunky and unstable on my computer xD 14:51:13 <DaleStan> And you reported these problems, right? 14:51:20 <Ailure> no lol 14:51:26 <Ailure> this was back in 2004 or something 14:51:29 <Ailure> though 14:52:07 <Ailure> The bug that I was annoyed at is probably fixed by now to be fair. 14:52:25 <Ailure> That the game froze for a few seconds whenever it started playing a midi song 14:52:26 <hylje> 3rd-party-patched stuff tends to have ugly hacks which in turn lead to ugly bugs 14:55:47 <Ailure> Well I kinda come from the ROM hacking community where we do that all the time. :) 14:55:49 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has joined #openttd 14:57:10 <Ailure> Nowadays, I do report bugs when I come across them 14:57:13 <Ailure> if i'm able to 14:59:33 <Xkeeper> time to go back to work on my 'balancing patch' for TTD and friends 15:11:59 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D17.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:26:16 *** SDK1985 [DarkSoul2@ip219-90-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:36:53 <SDK1985> hi 15:37:05 <SDK1985> how can I delete a company when I dont know the id.. 15:37:39 <Rubidium> players shows you the id I believe 15:37:42 <Rubidium> of companies 15:38:41 <SDK1985> but the player left already 15:38:48 <SDK1985> but he created rails to block players 15:38:55 <Rubidium> then it's companies 15:38:59 <SDK1985> ok thanks 15:39:02 <SDK1985> and when I am not dedicated 15:39:09 <SDK1985> how do I enter commands then? 15:39:50 <Rubidium> hit the ` or whatever key is left of the 1 15:41:23 <Marcel> ahh speaking about shortkeys :) is there a quick way to cycle between team-chat and chat-to-all 15:41:38 <Marcel> and with that i dont mean use the client list 15:42:31 <Rubidium> maybe something like pressing ctrl-enter instead of enter? 15:42:33 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 15:42:41 *** Tino|Home [Tino@VPNPOOL01-0310.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 15:42:46 <Rubidium> it's just a wild guess though 15:43:16 <Marcel> :) 15:43:19 <Marcel> works :D 15:43:42 <Marcel> ty :D 15:49:41 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i5387ECF9.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:52:29 <Zuu> In some version don't know if it is in 0.5 or only in trunk, there is a patch-setting to switch which of team-chat or chat-to-all that should be default. 15:53:02 <SDK1985> team chat is control? 15:53:30 <Zuu> This feature is there mostly since team-chat is the house-rule of #openttdcoop, I beleave. 15:53:58 <Zuu> SDK1985: usually. 15:54:19 <Zuu> Could be shift too. 15:54:22 <Zuu> But not Alt. 16:18:23 <Belugas> Dalestan, to your knowledge, how many industry tile slots have been redefined in newindustry? Same amount = 175? 16:19:45 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:27:09 <Ailure> mrrrrss 16:35:41 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54a3ca34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:14 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E940.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:35 <DaleStan> Belugas: Total newindustrytile slots? 255 or 256, I suspect. Not sure what you mean by "redefined", though. 16:39:02 <DaleStan> Belugas: None of those 255/256 replace any of the original 175 tiles, unless explicitly instructed to do so (prop 09) 16:39:13 <Belugas> sorry...allowed to be redefined, as in there are 39 industry slots available for redefinition 16:39:25 <Belugas> ok thanks 16:39:33 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-212-50-170-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:39:34 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-212-50-170-1.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:43:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7D17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:54 <Thomas[NL]> I'm just looking at the source trying to understand it a bit, in the line: { WWT_TEXTBTN, RESIZE_NONE, 14, 74, 133, 152, 163, STR_02DA_ON, STR_3064_HIGHLIGHT_COVERAGE_AREA}, in rail_gui.cpp what do which numders mean? 16:46:42 <Belugas> Thomas[NL] : this is the definition of a widget 16:46:51 <Belugas> look in to window.h:73 16:46:56 <Belugas> there's the structure 16:47:19 <Thomas[NL]> ah I see ty 16:47:27 <Belugas> the numbers in question are : int16 left, right, top, bottom; ///< The position offsets inside the window 16:50:48 *** helb_ [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 16:50:48 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:51:01 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:51:35 *** Konar6 [~Konar6@93.5.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 16:51:42 *** helb_ is now known as helb 16:57:17 <Thomas[NL]> Where are the actions of those buttons stored? 16:58:20 <Belugas> there are no actions as such 16:58:28 <Belugas> you should look in the event handlers 16:59:22 <Belugas> example : aircraft_gui.cpp:57 16:59:46 <Belugas> WE_PAINT,WE_CLICKetc... 17:00:13 <Thomas[NL]> ty 17:01:45 *** Konar6 [~Konar6@93.5.broadband3.iol.cz] has left #openttd [Leaving] 17:04:52 *** davis__ [~hi@dtmd-4db5f4e8.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Quit: mow? :(] 17:05:17 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489d3d0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:18 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:11:21 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:12:29 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489FD9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:41 *** lag [~lagmaster@cpc3-bsfd2-0-0-cust323.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: I WANT MY COOKIES!!!] 17:15:36 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387ECF9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:17:19 <Thomas[NL]> IS there a quick way to check a local variable ingame via the console? (by changing the source)? 17:19:27 <thomas001> hmm should i hear music in openttd? 17:20:35 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 17:21:03 <Thomas[NL]> there is a little midi-player third bottom from right top-row 17:21:39 *** Tino|Home [Tino@VPNPOOL01-0310.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:07 <SDK1985> my music stopped playing in 5.0 17:30:25 <SDK1985> I always had it on pause however since 4.8 I can no longer start it 17:30:33 <SDK1985> *since 5.0 17:31:05 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:08 *** Purno [~Purno@5351C3E7.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 17:31:27 *** maddy [~maddy@84.4.97.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:32:17 <SDK1985> what are the sound files? 17:38:35 <SDK1985> playlist is empty in 5.0 17:39:06 <Zuu> Please don't write 5.0 if you mean 0.5.0 17:39:18 <SDK1985> why? 17:39:24 <Zuu> Because it is wrong. 17:39:43 <SDK1985> no one will care.. 17:39:54 <Zuu> As you can see in the topic the current version is 0.5.1-RC2. 17:40:13 <SDK1985> yes but that is a development build 17:40:20 <SDK1985> Im using the "latest stable" build 17:40:30 <TrueBrain> which is 0.5.0, not 5.0 17:40:33 <SDK1985> I am not a developer 17:40:37 <thomas001> hmm i cannot select any track in 0.5.1-rc2 17:40:55 <Rubidium> SDK1985: do you have *.gm files in the gm subdirectory? 17:41:07 <SDK1985> ill check since I did a fresh install just a sec 17:41:44 * thomas001 has adlib.cat gm.cat and roland.cat there 17:42:37 <SDK1985> ok that was the problem 17:42:38 <SDK1985> thanks 17:42:38 <Rubidium> ah, OpenTTD doesn't support the dos version music 17:43:01 <Rubidium> and thomas001 apparantly has the dos version of TTD 17:43:07 <thomas001> oh 17:43:07 <SDK1985> just copied the gm from 4.8 to 5.0 17:43:16 <SDK1985> tomas should I upload for you somewhere? 17:43:33 <thomas001> whould be nice 17:43:48 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:44:00 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:45:21 <SDK1985> rapidshare not working along.. 17:45:29 *** Freed [~jecsar@mac33-2-82-225-98-209.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:51 <SDK1985> http://rapidshare.com/files/23063768/gm.rar 17:48:44 <thomas001> thx 17:50:23 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-145-211.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:55:32 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:16:24 *** llugo [~lugo@pD958152F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:01 <Ailure> lol 18:19:05 <Ailure> smeone called me a coal whore 18:19:07 <Ailure> amusing 18:19:09 <Ailure> :D 18:19:32 <hylje> moneymaker abuse 18:19:47 <Ailure> I'm trying to uhm 18:19:51 <Ailure> lol 18:19:52 <Ailure> yeah 18:20:58 <hylje> got you 18:21:10 <hylje> but who in their right mind would 'get' a furry? :< 18:23:10 *** lugo [~lugo@pd9582a09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:14 <Ailure> D: Wait how do people know that I am a furry now? x3 18:23:29 <Ailure> Well, it kinda became a tradition of mine to always do a coal line first and second 18:23:42 <Ailure> and then I kinda can't resist building a few when a coal mine goes crazy with it's production... 18:37:25 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host243-239-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:37:38 <Wolf01> hello 18:38:40 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 18:41:52 <hylje> :> 18:46:14 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:10 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:07:48 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:13:08 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:39 *** PandaMojo_ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:17:08 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:17:23 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:19:00 *** Purno [~Purno@5351C3E7.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 19:20:46 *** glx|away is now known as glx 19:21:25 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:37 *** PandaMojo_ is now known as PandaMojo 19:25:29 *** Progman [~foo@p57a1fce4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:25:47 *** Progman [~foo@p57a1fce4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:29:47 *** SDK1985 [DarkSoul2@ip219-90-209-87.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [] 19:32:20 <Sacro|Laptop> why did we go 0.4.0, 0.4.0.1, 0.5.0, 0.5.1 19:32:50 <Wolf01> yeah 19:32:58 <peter1138> because 0.4.0.1 was silly 19:35:44 <Rubidium> Sacro|Laptop: because there should've been a 0.4.0-RC so 0.4.0.1 wasn't needed... 19:36:07 <Sacro|Laptop> ah 19:37:28 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:40:53 <thomas001> is PBS included in 0.5.1-rc2? 19:41:00 <hylje> no 19:41:01 <Wolf01> no 19:41:12 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:41:22 <thomas001> thx 19:42:55 <Belugas> allt the 0.5.x are just fixes of 0.5, thomas001. DOn't expect PBS back anytime soon 19:43:12 <Belugas> nor new features, for waht's worth... 19:44:09 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 19:44:22 <thomas001> i'm just sitting over some track design and started to hate normal/pre/post/combo signals ;) 19:45:13 *** orudge [~orudge@138.251.254.190] has quit [] 19:46:01 <Belugas> goold old school :D 19:46:24 <thomas001> are there more signals around? ;) 19:47:00 <Rubidium> semaphores ;) 19:47:08 <Rubidium> though they are just like the 'normal' light signals 19:53:03 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 19:53:28 <thomas001> my problem is that trains pass the enter signal because of a green exit signal but face a red exit signal when they are in front of it. (because another train just came in). so the train waits even if the other exit signal is green now (sorry poor english) 19:54:52 *** Freed [~jecsar@mac33-2-82-225-98-209.fbx.proxad.net] has left #openttd [Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler (A. Einstein)] 19:59:55 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:00:24 <Progman> if you place both-directed signals instead of uni-directed signals the train choose a free one (if one got green) 20:00:50 <Progman> but this can mess up the pre-signal logic 20:06:25 *** Adrian [~chatzilla@host86-128-217-43.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:08:40 *** Adrian [~chatzilla@host86-128-217-43.range86-128.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 20:12:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r9506 /branches/NewGRF_ports/: (log message trimmed) 20:12:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Branch: Branch for development of newgrf airports, seaports, landports. 20:12:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Initial aim of this branch is to replace the hardcoded airports (finite state 20:12:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: machines (FSMs) and graphics layouts), with a newgrf-loadable system similar to 20:12:15 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: newstations. As the airport contains an FSM, it is more active than the 20:12:17 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: newstations, and requires numerous extensions to the newstation specification. 20:12:19 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Although this will at first only apply to airports and aircraft, the code will 20:12:51 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:13:44 <hylje> omg! 20:14:22 <hylje> too bad the log message was truncated 20:15:25 <Zuu> It continues: 20:15:28 <Zuu> at first only apply to airports and aircraft, the code will be designed to apply to all non-train vehicles; thus it should eventually allow seaports, bus terminii, and lorryparks to be coded bo 20:15:32 <Zuu> th graphically and actively. 20:15:35 <Zuu> RichK 20:15:56 <hylje> by the way 20:16:12 <hylje> would this work allow for free-formish airports 20:16:28 <hylje> much like rail stations at the moment 20:16:50 <Zuu> I think we should not speculate to much and let RichK and the others get time to do what they want. 20:17:31 <hylje> im just curious 20:17:40 <Zuu> hehe, we all are :) 20:18:02 <hylje> newgrf-able but static airports would be cool, but freeform newgrf airports will be cooler 20:23:04 <ln-> http://www.turunsanomat.fi/viimeuutiset/#448283 20:25:57 <hylje> hah 20:30:00 <valhallasw> thank god I can read finnish?!? ;) 20:32:08 <hylje> indeed 20:36:36 <thomas001> it's kind of ironic to think of race conditions in railway intersections ;) 20:36:36 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:37:34 <hylje> thomas001: elaborate :> 20:44:11 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: TrueBrain, Sacro, neli, @Rubidium, egladil, waxman, Vikthor, mggrant, Sionide, Triffid_Hunter, (+18 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:47:29 *** Netsplit over, joins: @Bjarni, Thomas[NL], egladil, waxman, welterde, neli, valhallasw, mggrant, @Rubidium, guru3 20:48:03 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 20:48:43 *** mode/#openttd [+nt] by ChanServ 20:48:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 20:49:02 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489d3d0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Tron [~tron@p54a3ca34.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** thomas001 [~thomas@p54B7DD89.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-174-119.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54AC503C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Morphy [~morphine@193.220.103.232] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Triffid_Hunter [~Splat@funkmunch.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** DebolazX [~root@office.nsn.no] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** Naksu [naksu@youzen.ext.b2.fi] has joined #openttd 20:49:02 *** mojs_ [mojs@hhcrew.net] has joined #openttd 20:49:07 <thomas001> http://stinfwww.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mam04daq/out.png <-- a train comes from the left,both exit signals green,it chooses the direct way and passes the enter signal,but just before passing the exit signal a second train comes from upper right and the exit signal for the first train goes red, but it can't go back to the still green other exit signal. 20:49:27 <thomas001> hmm i could have made a screenshot,but i like pen&paper more ;) 20:50:17 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.76.119] has joined #openttd 20:50:27 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 20:55:00 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:14 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-185-107.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 21:07:34 <Wolf01> 'night all 21:07:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host243-239-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 21:11:37 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r9507 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (9 files in 3 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: Moved airport state definitions into their own separate file to permit better logical grouping of state machine related data & code. 21:13:20 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-127-75.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:18:43 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:18:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r9508 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_states.h: 21:18:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: typedefs no longer required. 21:18:56 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Also helps to set keywords:Id and eol-style:native. 21:23:24 <Progman> thomas001: it is a roro-station? 21:25:18 <thomas001> Progman: it's part of an intersection i try to design,i don't think its standard,but i don't just want to copy patterns 21:27:46 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 21:28:43 <Progman> an intersection? 21:30:24 <thomas001> hmm more a threeway junction of a railway with 2 tracks per direction and a railway with 1 track per direction 21:31:41 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 21:33:09 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387ECF9.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:33:29 <Progman> sth like http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Image:ClaustroTransport%2C_3._Jul_2117_-2.png ? 21:33:33 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:34:04 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-173-230.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 21:34:39 <Xkeeper> wow, MediaWiki is fucking stupid 21:34:58 <Xkeeper> Progman: next time just link to the direct image inststead of wasting 2.2MB of excess bandwidth 21:35:04 <thomas001> hmm my first try does not look that advanced ;) 21:35:19 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has joined #openttd 21:37:09 *** mikk36[EST] [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 21:37:09 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip137.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:39:40 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9509 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/squirrel_export.awk: [NoAI] -Add: inner-class/struct support for parameters. 21:40:35 <thomas001> Progman: hmm i think you can find also the problem there. the train might choose a green track to get onto the large railway which is red when the train actually reached the track 21:40:55 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:02 <Progman> use a priority system 21:41:19 <thomas001> how? 21:41:57 <Progman> http://openttdcoop.ppcis.org/wiki/index.php/Priorities 21:41:57 <thomas001> i only know of 4 signal types,can i acceive priority with them? 21:43:04 <thomas001> ah thanks 21:46:04 <Progman> you can "pull" this priority to the line-chooser where the train must choose between one of the 2 tracks 21:50:28 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp91-76-145-211.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:01 <thomas001> thats a really nice idea of acceiving priority,simple but smart ;) 21:53:32 <thomas001> hmm i should learn a bit english 21:58:44 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r9510 /branches/NewGRF_ports/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Codechange: Moved airport layouts from station_cmd.cpp into table/station_air.h. Ultimately, these layouts should be provided by a newgrf. 22:02:53 *** mikk36[EST] is now known as mikk36 22:06:04 <Ailure> [23:34] <Xkeeper> wow, MediaWiki is fucking stupid 22:06:04 <Ailure> [23:34] <Xkeeper> Progman: next time just link to the direct image inststead of wasting 2.2MB of excess bandwidth 22:06:06 <Ailure> oh ahaha 22:06:07 <Ailure> the irony 22:06:17 <Ailure> the thumbnail is larger size-wise than the full picture 22:06:37 <Ailure> when they're usually are there to conserve size both in terms of resolution and space XD 22:06:55 <Ailure> reminds me that it's been awhile since I looked into openttd-coop :) 22:08:25 *** Wolfenst1ijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:08:43 <Ailure> mostly becuese of me not having much time 22:09:03 <Ailure> I did add stuff onto networks on some sandbox games, but not much. ;) 22:11:16 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 22:11:59 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 22:17:29 *** Morphy [~morphine@193.220.103.232] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:32 *** orudge` [~orudge@8afbfebe.resnet.st-andrews.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 22:27:55 *** Progman [~foo@p57a1fce4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29:25 *** Wolfenst1ijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 22:29:50 *** Wolfensteijn [~wolf@h88211156156.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:46:50 *** antichaos [~antichaos@host86-132-127-75.range86-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [] 22:52:48 *** BR [~jamesr@acropolis.ldn.pethippo.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:53:53 <BR> heyup all, Playing 0.5.1-RC5 and I have brought two of my competitors for each, I have managed to turn their air lines around but I don't seem to be getting the aircraft income, only the expenses relating to them... 22:53:58 <BR> Known problem? 22:54:09 <Sionide> err yeah 22:54:11 <Sionide> shares suck 22:54:39 <BR> The Airline expenses are through the roof as can be seen from the airliner information sheet... 22:54:54 <BR> lo Sionide ;) ltns 22:55:56 <BR> I dont have shares in them 22:56:09 <BR> they where running at huge losses so I got an offer to buy them out 22:56:23 <BR> so the previous owners no longer exist. 23:08:56 <glx> 0.5.1-RC5 doesn't exist 23:13:22 <Ailure> He's from the future 23:13:24 <Ailure> :o :o 23:15:29 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b81486.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:17:03 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80425.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:17:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:22:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:27:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: richk * r9511 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): 23:27:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: Added ability to have irregular shaped airports. Use value 255 in airport layout, and that tile is skipped during airport placement & deletion. 23:27:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Tile Highlight also skips "255" airport tiles. 23:27:31 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: Note: 0,0 tile of airport cannot be skipped. May see if possible later. 23:46:15 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 23:46:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 23:48:45 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80425.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:50:51 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b80114.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:50:54 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:54:07 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]