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00:01:01 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:05:36 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:06:31 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 00:31:59 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:33:21 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 01:01:21 <mikegrb> hmm, I'm new to this awesomeness, are the GRF files from the commercial version absolutely required or can just NewGRF sets be used by themselves? 01:07:36 <Digitalfox[Home]> Original GRF are still required, maybe in the future they are not :) 01:08:19 <Digitalfox[Home]> There is not yet full newgrf replacements for everything, at least is what i see ;) 01:10:51 <mikegrb> that is what I was seeing 01:11:05 <mikegrb> seems like most replacements concentrate on the vehicles and buildings 01:11:12 <mikegrb> ont so much the trees and such 01:21:38 <Digitalfox[Home]> yeah 01:26:03 <Digitalfox[Home]> but look at this picture of my current game :) 01:26:05 <Digitalfox[Home]> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/Digitalfox/game1.jpg 01:26:21 <Digitalfox[Home]> theres a lot of thing that newgrf set's currently change 01:28:03 <Digitalfox[Home]> Damn photobucket resized it.. But oh well you get the picture ;) 01:32:16 <mikegrb> yes indeed 01:33:00 <mikegrb> but no windows computer to install my old copy of TTD onto to get the grfs ;) 01:33:45 <glx> you can get it from the cd 01:33:55 <Digitalfox[Home]> true 01:34:01 <mikegrb> oh? 01:34:03 <mikegrb> hmmm 01:34:09 <mikegrb> will have to take a look 01:34:09 <Sacro> Digitalfox[Home]: please use png 01:34:15 <Sacro> and just press CTRL+S 01:34:45 * Sacro suggest to remove jpeg/gif creation as it sucks 01:34:46 <mikegrb> have a new mac book coming in the mail tommorow so could always install it in there, means I have to dig an old windows cd out of the back of the closet too ;) 01:35:05 <mikegrb> thanks for the information, headed to bed 01:35:15 <Digitalfox[Home]> Sacro: I know png has better quality, but isn't it much bigger in kb? 01:35:27 <Sacro> mikegrb: the grfs are availbable... online ;) 01:35:33 <Sacro> Digitalfox[Home]: nope 01:36:01 <glx> maybe in 32bpp, but not for 8bpp indexed 01:36:20 <Digitalfox[Home]> ok, will give it a shot next time 01:37:32 <Digitalfox[Home]> bed time.. 01:37:35 <Digitalfox[Home]> gn 02:24:35 *** Sacro|Laptop [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:30:49 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B764C4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 02:31:00 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-177-94.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Time for Sleeping] 02:37:15 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77C07.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:41:11 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:45:40 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:18:54 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498d161.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:17:43 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 05:19:27 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 05:23:10 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb7563.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:24:52 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb7563.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 05:29:42 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB55A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:42:54 *** Alystair [Alystair@CPE001109c15241-CM00407b8794db.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 06:06:08 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #openttd 06:09:53 *** DaleStan [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:11:11 *** nairan [~maui_key@p5498E97B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:27:14 *** PandaMojo_____ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:29:05 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:30:51 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 06:32:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:12 *** PandaMojo_____ is now known as PandaMojo 06:35:16 *** PandaMojo_____ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #openttd 06:35:38 *** PandaMojo_____ [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [] 06:38:34 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:41:11 *** PandaMojo [~chatzilla@ip72-197-231-130.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:03:10 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b8130f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:05:32 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b825ef.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:05:35 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:08:58 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 07:12:35 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 07:12:52 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 07:26:14 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:26:25 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:29:36 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:35:37 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:35:54 <Wolf01> hello 07:36:04 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code is a psychopath who knows where you live.] 07:47:25 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 07:51:49 *** maad [~emade@tk202.azylnet.com] has joined #openttd 07:51:49 *** maad_ [~emade@82.160.115.202] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:18:53 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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F_\textrm{friction}=\infty ? 10:56:31 <hylje> yay, tex 10:56:45 <valhallasw> :) 11:07:12 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pd9eb5c09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:09:40 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 11:14:14 *** gaal [~gaal@mirka.ynet.sk] has joined #openttd 11:17:04 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:17:45 *** egladil [~egladil@81-236-0-99-no61.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 11:26:47 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:29:55 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [] 11:35:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: maedhros * r9543 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 11:35:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Fix [FS#691]: Split up STR_ENGINE_NOT_BUILDABLE into four strings so it can be 11:35:13 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: translated properly and remove "buildable", since it isn't actually a word. 11:37:20 <Wolf01> i always thought that in english was sufficient to add -able -ly etc to a word to make a new word with sense :P 11:39:07 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: maedhros * r9544 /trunk/src/lang/ (34 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup (r9543): Remove unused strings. 11:40:05 <Maedhros> Wolf01: :) 11:46:39 <roboboy> with the port option in the cfg, does that change the client port or the server port? 11:47:36 <Wolf01> if i remember well, both 11:49:58 <tkoskine> ispell suggests "how about: build able, build-able" and both answer.com and thefreedictionary.com seem to know buildable. 11:50:17 <tkoskine> s/answer/answers/ 11:51:55 <Maedhros> mm, those are probably american dictionaries though 11:52:09 <roboboy> the only one it lists in the cfg is 3979 which seems o be the server port so thats the one I want to be able to change i think 11:53:01 * roboboy bed soon 11:57:53 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip35.cab12.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 12:00:29 <roboboy> gnight 12:02:21 *** Patrick [pitt2@saturn.retrosnub.co.uk] has left #openttd [This channel has been garbage collected] 12:07:39 <Biff> bah, 2048x2048 is huuuge 12:07:52 <Biff> wonder if i'll ever manage to build the whole map 12:10:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-87.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:24:18 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pd9eb5c09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:36 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:28:47 <peter1138> unlikely 12:42:15 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-183-072.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:47:46 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-143-177.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:47:55 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 12:50:23 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:50:31 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-187-165.adslplus.ch] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ammler_))] 12:50:35 *** ammler_ is now known as ammler 13:09:49 <Belugas> hello 13:10:00 <Wolf01> hi 13:10:45 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:12:34 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 13:18:01 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:20:21 <Thomas[NL]> on http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Suggestions it is stated that signal-autocomplete is included into trunk. Is this wrong, because I can't find it in the latest nightly. 13:21:19 <Thomas[NL]> oh they mean the current behaviour with Drag and Drop.. 13:26:39 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:40 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:33:24 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:33:31 <Maedhros> someone seems to have misunderstood, or just not read the link they used as justification 13:40:37 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:40:37 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:50:17 *** hansen [~hnsn@pc11-121-07.Student.hig.se] has joined #openttd 13:58:09 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 14:04:06 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:35 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: belugas * r9545 /trunk/src/ (aircraft.h aircraft_cmd.cpp newgrf_config.cpp): -Documentation: Some corrections to previous doxygen work 14:24:33 *** Biff [~biff@30.80-203-176.nextgentel.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:15 *** Sacro|Mobile [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51:32 *** hansen [~hnsn@pc11-121-07.Student.hig.se] has quit [Quit: omg] 14:55:28 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-67-220.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:56:30 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:02:02 <Thomas[NL]> I get an error while compiling latest nightly: [SRC] Compiling ai/default/default.cpp 15:02:02 <Thomas[NL]> /home/###/openttd/src/ai/default/../../aircraft.h:74: error: expected ',' or '...' before '*' token 15:02:02 <Thomas[NL]> make[1]: *** [ai/default/default.o] Error 1 15:02:02 <Thomas[NL]> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/###/openttd/objs/release' 15:02:02 <Thomas[NL]> make: *** [all] Error 2 15:02:17 <Thomas[NL]> revision 9545 15:03:20 <Rubidium> latest nightly? 15:03:29 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:03:38 <Rubidium> that would've been r9542 15:03:48 <Thomas[NL]> svn 15:04:15 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:06:07 <peter1138> heh 15:06:18 <peter1138> avi* indeed :p 15:08:07 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:08:39 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: rubidium * r9546 /trunk/src/aircraft.h: -Fix (r9545): several typos... 15:09:42 <Rubidium> Thomas[NL]: retry ;) 15:10:16 <Thomas[NL]> fixed :) 15:14:35 *** ammler_ is now known as Ammler 15:20:00 <Belugas> sorry 15:20:04 <Belugas> my fault 15:27:07 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-64-229.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 15:27:11 *** Digitalfox is now known as Digitalfox[Work] 15:29:41 <Digitalfox[Work]> This is not a big thing, but when building a tunnel in a very large map like 1024 * 1024 or more, and using shift for previewing the money that will be spend on buying it it only goes to EUR 800,002,678, after this value the distance doesn't mind anymore, maybe this is a hard coed 15:30:03 <Digitalfox[Work]> hard coded value, but it would be nice if it gave more preview 15:30:17 <Jezral> Probably an integer max. 15:31:01 <Digitalfox[Work]> yeah 15:31:50 <Digitalfox[Work]> By the way what's the max value for money? Is it also this value the 800,etc.. 15:32:43 <Jezral> I'd expect the max to be 4294967296 in whatever is the base currency. 15:33:13 <peter1138> signed, so half that 15:33:28 <Jezral> Oh right, you can go negative in TTD... 15:35:46 *** Jezral [~projectjj@130.226.173.22] has quit [Quit: ) td@projectjj.com - http://projectjj.com/ (] 15:36:37 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 15:40:39 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b825ef.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:46 *** Jezral [~projectjj@users.kollegienet.dk] has joined #openttd 15:41:51 *** Ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:12 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 15:42:18 <peter1138> Jezral, it's also stored in 64 bits for the main values... 15:43:07 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:43:18 <Jezral> Ah 15:43:25 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E0A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:43:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:00:26 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57a0d368.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:13:02 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has joined #openttd 16:16:23 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:20:28 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:26:15 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB5C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:26:43 *** Osai^zZz is now known as Osai 16:30:44 *** Tron_ [~tron@p54A3CD71.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:37:03 *** Tron [~tron@p54A3E20D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:38:02 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 16:52:52 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:34 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 16:54:36 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:02:32 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:05:40 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:07:47 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0337.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 17:09:29 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:13 <Maedhros> grr, why must it be some complicated to stop towns building roads? 17:12:40 <Maedhros> s/me// 17:12:43 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489FFDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:16:14 *** DaleStan__ [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #openttd 17:16:19 *** DaleStan__ is now known as DaleStan 17:17:04 *** Digitalfox[Work]_ [~chatzilla@bl4-211-233.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:18:15 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489EC39.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:19:58 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Words get written, words get twisted, old meanings change in the drift of time.] 17:21:09 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 17:21:55 *** Digitalfox[Work] [~chatzilla@bl10-64-229.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:22:02 *** Digitalfox[Work]_ is now known as Digitalfox[Work] 17:22:08 *** Digitalfox[Work] [~chatzilla@bl4-211-233.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Going to Work...] 17:23:14 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@74-140-44-235.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:08 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:31:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:37:19 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:39:32 *** gravitone [~yeah@client106-177.hint.rug.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:09 *** edeca [~david@beefy.two-pebbles.com] has joined #openttd 17:51:41 <edeca> I've got 2 rails going into a station with a waypoint on each. 1/2 the trains are set to waypoint 1, 1/2 are waypoint 2. But if the queue is full, trains take the other track whichi can muck things up, any easy way to improve it/ 17:59:48 <Zuu> edeca: How far is the waypoints from where the rail split into two? 17:59:54 <edeca> Just after it 17:59:59 <edeca> I have played with signals before/after and such 18:00:01 <Zuu> Try move the split away a few signal-blocks. 18:00:07 <edeca> Oh, interesting! 18:00:13 <edeca> I'm just expanding the station anyway 18:00:48 <Zuu> I don't know if that fixes it, I've not used waipoints that way much recently. 18:01:05 <edeca> I've never used them before 18:01:18 <Zuu> Sometimes I split a station in two, but never have had the problem that a train went to the wrong station. 18:02:17 <Zuu> That is one station for raw-meterial to an industry and another for the output from the industry. 18:03:34 <edeca> I've just expanded it anyway, I figure I have to do something with the first few millions 18:03:39 <edeca> After this it's easy anyway :) 18:03:43 <edeca> Just the pesky council to deal with 18:03:44 <Zuu> But I can't see why doing it with waypoints would not work. Other than that YPAF chooses the "wrong" way because the track is blocked, but I'm surprised it does that. 18:04:22 <edeca> Oh, I'm using NPF with a patched openttd, I love shared signal blocks too much 18:07:50 * edeca gives up on waypoints for nwo 18:07:55 <edeca> I'm off out too, thanks for your help Zuu 18:14:19 <Zuu> edeca: You're welcome 18:21:31 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 18:23:37 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-101-196.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:24:42 *** Digitalfox[Home] [~chatzilla@bl7-177-94.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:28:03 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31:03 *** nfc [nfc@dsl-hvkgw1-fe65fa00-43.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:31:07 <Digitalfox[Home]> Maedhros: Are you workingh on option to stop towns building roads? 18:33:41 <Maedhros> Digitalfox[Home]: i'm having a go, yeah 18:33:52 <Digitalfox[Home]> Cool :) 18:35:33 <Digitalfox[Home]> And what do you think of this idea also?? 18:35:35 <Digitalfox[Home]> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=30972&start=0 18:35:55 <gravitone> towns should become a bit more complex in my opinion 18:36:20 <Maedhros> i'm not desperately interested, personally 18:36:27 <Maedhros> but i'll have a look at how it works 18:42:17 *** boekabart [~boekabart@g54037.upc-g.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Your eyes grow heavy.. you grow very sleepy..... zzzz...] 18:49:44 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:38 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac7cf3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:02 *** Osai^Kendo [~Osai@pD9EB5C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^Kendo] 19:12:59 *** Tron_ is now known as Tron 19:22:41 *** green-devil [~c@0x573558a2.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 19:31:37 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:38:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: miham * r9547 /trunk/src/lang/ (13 files): (log message trimmed) 19:38:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-04-02 21:37:30 19:38:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 2 fixed by tucalipe (2) 19:38:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 2 fixed by thetitan (2) 19:38:30 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: catalan - 2 fixed by arnaullv (2) 19:38:32 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: czech - 6 fixed by Hadez (6) 19:38:32 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: dutch - 2 fixed by habell (2) 19:47:38 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:47:42 <CIA-2> OpenTTD: miham * r9548 /trunk/src/lang/ (brazilian_portuguese.txt norwegian_bokmal.txt): [Translations] -Fix: Fixed empty strings added by WT2 [note to self: really should fix this old bug in WT2] 19:51:07 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:52:59 *** Osai^Kendo [~Osai@pD9EB5C09.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:54:09 *** Osai^Kendo is now known as Osai 19:54:29 *** scia [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:10:28 <Thomas[NL]> why does svn co -r 9546 not work? 20:11:47 <Rubidium> did you specify what to check out? 20:13:04 <Thomas[NL]> sigh, sorry for being stupid :) 20:13:23 <peter1138> that's ok, you can't help it 20:13:25 <peter1138> *ducks* 20:13:45 *** scia_ [~scia@AveloN.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:14:14 <Wolf01> 'nigth 20:14:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host137-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 20:31:16 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 20:34:29 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.78] has joined #openttd 20:39:14 *** setrodox_ [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 20:45:10 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-124-46-17.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 20:49:27 *** HMage [~HMage@85.21.179.62] has joined #openttd 20:50:38 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-89-217-144-125.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 20:51:22 *** ammler [~ammler@adsl-89-217-39-253.adslplus.ch] has quit [Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by ammler_))] 20:51:25 *** ammler_ is now known as ammler 20:56:21 <Smoovious> um... heads-up... vulnerability found in flyspray... http://secunia.com/advisories/24702/ 21:02:01 <peter1138> "can be exploited to display project summaries of private projects" 21:02:02 <peter1138> heh 21:03:17 <Rubidium> sounds quite different from "Performing actions as admin without password" 21:03:35 *** ada`ubuntu [~ada@catv-50633e82.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #openttd 21:03:45 <ada`ubuntu> hey all 21:04:38 <ada`ubuntu> first of all Id like to say a huge thanks to all developers for this game, found it today, I was always a big fan of TTD even played it last year :) 21:05:55 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:40 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.78] has quit [Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 21:12:37 <Digitalfox[Home]> ada`ubuntu: I'm not a developer, but has a user i hope you have a lot of fun with openttd, welcome to this comunity :) 21:13:14 <ada`ubuntu> just played an hour with it and honestly, I would never imagine a game with 10 year old engine can amuse me that much :) 21:13:36 <ada`ubuntu> browsing wiki for GRF and other stuff, hundreds of new stuffs need to learn 21:14:05 <Digitalfox[Home]> :) 21:14:08 <ada`ubuntu> and thanks hehe :) 21:15:08 <ada`ubuntu> yesterday I got the Transport Giant I wanted some tycoon action, but after 1 hour of playing I was sick, nice gfx but stpd control, stpd AI. <3 openttd :) 21:15:24 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:15:59 * Rubidium advices to turn of the AI in OpenTTD ;) 21:16:56 * Rubidium rather advices to play with 'intelligent' opponents, i.e. multiplayer ;) 21:16:58 *** Sacro|Laptop [~Ben@adsl-87-102-73-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:31 <ada`ubuntu> first of all I need to learn controlling this new game, then you multiplayer :)Ö 21:17:35 <Smoovious> but the advanced ai is good if you wanna generate lots of road traffic to run d own. :) 21:17:39 <Smoovious> it only makes road vehicles 21:18:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> the complete AI system is being overhauled 21:19:45 <Smoovious> yeah, and i'm so looking forward to that 21:19:46 <Eddi|zuHause2> in the NoAI branch, everything concerning the old AI is ripped out, and a new AI interface is being created, then "anyone" can script an AI, and plug it into the interface 21:20:02 <Smoovious> end up having different ai companies with different personalities 21:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> "AI with multiple personality disorder" :) 21:20:41 <ada`ubuntu> sounds good 21:21:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> reminds me of the film "identity" ;) 21:21:54 <ada`ubuntu> btw a quick question, in what cases its possible to have an aircraft crashed? 21:22:02 <ada`ubuntu> too small airport? 21:23:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> random chance when landing 21:23:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> small airport increases that chance drastically 21:24:30 <ada`ubuntu> saw there are a lot good stuffs about autoreaplacing when too old and stuff, is it possible to either autoreplace a crashed plane or 'clone' its destinations? 21:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> yes, click on the hangar, there is a button "clone vehicle", then click on the crashed vehicle, it will copy the orders 21:26:12 <Eddi|zuHause2> (ctrl+click will share orders) 21:26:49 <ada`ubuntu> cheers :) 21:38:45 <ada`ubuntu> Downloaded the newstations grf file from its homepage, added to the conf file and even loaded it ingame but no change - old stations are the same 21:39:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, it only affects new stations 21:39:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's probably better to add grfs with the ingame menu 21:40:08 <ada`ubuntu> when its asking that it can crash blabla? 21:40:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> what? 21:41:38 <ada`ubuntu> ok well :) copied into data/newgrf editet config file as the wiki told me to, gone ingame and loaded in the main menu and even tried in the ingame menu 21:41:51 <ada`ubuntu> but both same effects: old and new stations models are the same 21:41:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> the wiki is probably out of date 21:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> if you load a savegame, the config file is ignored, it loads the same grfs it was saved with 21:42:35 <ada`ubuntu> ah 21:42:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> load the game, and then modify grfs with the gui 21:43:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> some grfs (that do not alter gameplay) can be put into [newgrf-static] section, it will then automatically be "force-loaded", no matter what the savegame says 21:44:30 <Eddi|zuHause2> for example catenary grfs, or tree grfs 21:44:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> that won't work with stations, though 21:45:20 <ada`ubuntu> its working now if I start a new game 21:45:44 <ada`ubuntu> so im unable to force old savegames to use new grfs? 21:46:06 <peter1138> use the gui in game 21:46:53 <ada`ubuntu> wee working :) 21:48:06 <ada`ubuntu> 'Tardtown' :) 21:51:58 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code is a psychopath who knows where you live.] 21:56:00 *** Rens2Sea [~Rens2Sea@213.211.185.168] has quit [] 21:56:32 <peter1138> g'night 21:57:33 <ada`ubuntu> leaving aswell thanks for the help and goodnight 21:57:35 *** ada`ubuntu [~ada@catv-50633e82.catv.broadband.hu] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:01:12 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:02:23 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:06:36 *** ChrisM87 [~ChrisM@p54ac7cf3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:14:12 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@91.84.76.183] has joined #openttd 22:14:16 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 22:14:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57a1d1da.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:20:47 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@91.84.76.183] has left #openttd [Leaving] 22:37:26 *** gravitone [~yeah@client106-177.hint.rug.nl] has quit [] 22:44:43 *** wolfryu_ [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 22:44:48 *** wolfryu [~wolf@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:02:56 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0337.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:18 *** ikeco [~chatzilla@user-0c6tahk.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 23:07:25 *** ikeco [~chatzilla@user-0c6tahk.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [] 23:08:02 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0220.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 23:28:19 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0220.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:31:08 *** Zuu [~leif@c-0c3c71d5.025-58-6e6b702.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:33:25 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti131310a341-0296.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 23:53:10 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@91.84.76.183] has joined #openttd