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00:06:59 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:07:22 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:18:22 <Frostregen> Rubidium: are you here? 00:19:59 <Eddi|zuHause> at 2:19? probably not :p 00:20:38 <Frostregen> ok ;) 00:21:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:21:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> btw, for the rotation thing, i'd look into if it would be possible to do in the form (x+y) mod n 00:22:23 <Sacro> xor? 00:22:51 <Eddi|zuHause> xor is only useful for mod 2 00:22:52 <Frostregen> it was just coded straightforward 00:22:58 <Eddi|zuHause> but the diagonal bits have to be mod 4 00:23:05 <Frostregen> i think the best solution is a lookup-table 00:24:49 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:24:49 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:24:57 <Eddi|zuHause> well, lookup table should work, too :) 00:25:01 <Frostregen> also more robust against changes 00:26:00 <Frostregen> i would need someone to point out, what needs to be rewritten 00:26:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the algebraic solution depends on the correct order of the definitions 00:26:32 <Frostregen> yes... 00:27:08 <Eddi|zuHause> and they might seem "magic" to people 00:27:43 <Frostregen> this is my problem...there is nothing looking magic anymore ;) 00:28:16 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:28:18 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:59 <Frostregen> first it needs to patch against trunk again... 00:30:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i probably can't help you with that problem... 00:31:00 <Eddi|zuHause> good night 00:31:06 <Frostregen> no, thats my job 00:31:10 <Frostregen> gn8 00:36:36 <Frostregen> is it currently possible in trunk to have different signaltypes on one tile? 00:37:08 <Frostregen> or is GetSignalType(tile, Track) just a preparation for this? 00:39:41 <Sacro> arrrghhh 00:39:46 <Sacro> DAMN THE SIGNALLING 00:40:10 <Frostregen> still on your station? :) 00:40:32 <Sacro> what do you mean? 00:40:47 <Sacro> oh yeah, still on Simsig 00:41:05 <Jerub> Frostregen: it's possible to have two sets of signals on a single tile on two non intersecting tracks. 00:41:34 <Jerub> square tile with two diagnonal tracks running parallel through it. 00:41:53 <Frostregen> [21:28:21] <Sacro> i have 2 trains both waiting for the other 00:42:14 <Sacro> Frostregen: oh i gave up on that one, i'd totally broke the station 00:42:22 <Frostregen> oh, ok 00:42:33 <Frostregen> Jerub: thx, this it what i want to know :) 00:42:53 <Frostregen> uhm, just to understand it right: 00:43:11 <Frostregen> 2 diagonal line on one tile. one is presignal, the other exit 00:43:14 <Frostregen> for example^ 00:43:50 <Frostregen> ok, compiles again 00:44:19 <glx> Frostregen: yes it is possible :) 00:44:38 <glx> even semaphore on one track and light on the other 00:44:59 <Frostregen> thx :) 00:45:14 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:45:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:45:17 <Frostregen> hmm, no free bits left for me 00:46:52 <glx> it depends on tile type and subtype, and how many bits you need 00:48:24 <glx> at least 23 free bits for rails (waypoints) 00:49:23 <glx> 22 for plain rail 00:53:38 <Frostregen> i separated rails & signals 00:53:44 <Frostregen> because of signal complexity 00:54:35 <glx> signals are in m2 0..2 4..6 and m4 4..8 00:54:56 <Frostregen> in my copy-arrays 00:55:06 <Frostregen> i use the map accessors for retrieving them 00:55:38 <glx> yes it's better to use accessors :) 00:56:34 <glx> because bits can move ;) (I moved signals state bits from m2 to m4 when adding two types on one tile) 00:56:48 <Frostregen> yup 00:57:16 <Frostregen> moving bits in commands regularly kill c&p ;) 01:00:23 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-103-131.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:45 <Frostregen> argh 01:00:55 <Frostregen> just 1 bit missing :( 01:05:38 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:05:38 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:06:33 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-125-223-185.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 01:21:51 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:21:51 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:51 *** Nukebuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 01:25:35 *** nitro4ce [~lucas@15-181-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #openttd 01:25:36 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB4DF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:25:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4df6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:26:40 <nitro4ce> hi. i can't run the game in linux. i get that i need some files like: sample.cat trg1r.grf trgcr.grf trghr.grf trgir.grf trgtr.grf 01:26:51 <nitro4ce> where can i get those files? 01:27:14 <glx> in the original cd of ttd 01:27:58 <nitro4ce> actually i don't have ttd. 01:28:06 <glx> ask google :) 01:29:08 *** Apocalipsys [Apocalipsy@190.156.92.69] has joined #openttd 01:31:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76579.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:10 *** nitro4ce [~lucas@15-181-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:37:27 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:37:43 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7558A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:49:36 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r10040 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_commons.cpp newgrf_commons.h newgrf_house.cpp): -Codechange: Make the function GetTerrainType public, as other functions require it 02:21:00 *** Tobin 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quit [Quit: Tobin] 05:53:52 <hylje> yay 05:58:04 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 06:08:02 *** Ola [~fn890ew@s5593182a.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: euhm ... was that the powerswitch ???] 06:20:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r10041 /trunk/src/lang/ (czech.txt french.txt hungarian.txt ukrainian.txt): 06:20:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-06-05 08:19:09 06:20:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: czech - 34 fixed by Hadez (34) 06:20:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: french - 3 fixed by glx (3) 06:20:14 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: hungarian - 4 fixed by miham (4) 06:20:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: ukrainian - 4 fixed by mad (4) 06:22:50 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C7AB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:23:34 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-68-114.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:23:42 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:47 *** Zavio [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:47 *** Taikaponi [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:24:02 <roboboy> hello 06:24:05 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 06:27:53 <roboboy> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Configure_Station_Patches and http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Improved_Loading contradict each other, which one is correct 06:30:53 * roboboy pokes arround in here a bit 06:32:28 <peter1138> it is FIFO now 06:32:37 <peter1138> in trunk, but not in 0.5.x 06:32:44 <Smoky555> hi all 06:32:53 <peter1138> so technically they're both correct ;) 06:32:54 <XeryusTC> roboboy: it's a wiki, go fix it 06:33:46 <roboboy> ok 06:33:55 <roboboy> I wanted to know which was right 06:34:09 <roboboy> so Ill try and fix it 06:34:15 <roboboy> maybe 06:34:35 <Smoky555> did somebody remember, what the patch was to edit persent of loading trains/roadveh on stations? 07:01:10 *** maddy 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spritecache.cpp spritecache.h): 10:40:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Replace hardcoded spritecache size with a configuration 10:40:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: option, sprite_cache_size. The default size is 2MB and the value can 10:40:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: range from 1 to 64MB. If you experience slow-downs when scrolling the 10:40:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: map, try increasing this setting. 10:46:54 *** Hendikins|BNEABXMEL [~wolfox@CPE-121-209-208-159.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:33 <Ailure> ironic 10:51:08 <Ailure> not too soon after trams were implented, I started hearing plans about implenting Trams where I live. 10:51:23 <hylje> thats just coincidience 10:51:27 <Ailure> yep 10:51:43 <Ailure> still that was kinda surprising 10:52:05 <Ailure> the local transport company had been rather succeful as more and more people take the bus and train :p 10:56:05 <Ailure> http://img.aftonbladet.se/malmo/0706/04/Pendlare-Karta.jpg 10:56:18 <Ailure> Red is where they might build trams 10:56:19 <izhirahider> STR_GROUP_ADD_SHARED_VEHICLE : Add Shared Vehicles. What's a shared vehicle? Should it be vehicles with *shared orders*? 10:56:24 <Ailure> black is where they currently have railways 10:56:39 <Ailure> dotted is where they might build out railway network D: 10:56:54 <peter1138> izhirahider: i think so 10:57:11 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0C610.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:57:58 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-31-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:58:47 <hylje> Ailure: enjoy your spårvagens 10:59:31 <Ailure> :P 10:59:59 <Ailure> However they aren't build ing anything yet 11:00:18 <Ailure> but seeing how people are using the existing trains and buses more and more, they probably do it. 11:08:11 *** Hendikins|BNEABXMEL [~wolfox@121.209.208.159] has joined #openttd 11:17:14 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:18:53 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:30 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@213.23.133.82] has joined #openttd 11:23:22 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:24:38 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:25:05 *** Hendikins|BNEABXMEL [~wolfox@121.209.208.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:25:07 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-68-114.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:26:20 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:27:33 <skidd13> @dev's: any review of http://bugs.openttd.org/task/828 ? 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12:42:04 *** Hendikins|BNEABXMEL [~wolfox@CPE-121-209-208-159.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:09 <neli> trains don't even need maintenance in ottd when they run into a truck 12:42:29 <boekabart> i don't like that, personally, should at least break down 12:43:56 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-185-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:44:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Noldo> hmm, level crossing accidents usually work the other way around <- in germany there was a huge accident when a passenger train full of children hit a fuel truck... 12:46:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugunglück_von_Langenweddingen 12:48:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> i believe it's the second worst train accident in german history 12:49:10 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-77.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:53:56 *** Hendikins|BNEABXMEL [~wolfox@ppp48-43.lns2.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 13:02:15 *** setrodox_ [setrodox@85-125-223-119.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:03:06 *** Rubidium_ [~rubidium@rubidium.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 13:03:27 *** ln-_ [lauri@ksenos.fi] has joined #openttd 13:03:34 *** colle_ [~colle@c-efe4e455.01-253-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 13:03:39 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> panulirus.oftc.net quits: TrueBrain, Rubidium, @Belugas, NukeBuster, @orudge, colle, SpBot, ln-, moe, HMage, (+2 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 13:04:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 13:04:02 *** Netsplit over, joins: orudge 13:06:18 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498D003.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:06:25 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 13:06:41 *** HMage [HMage@89-178-185-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:07:01 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8302A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 13:07:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 13:07:01 *** colle_ is now known as colle 13:07:16 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-125-223-119.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 13:07:27 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 13:07:27 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 13:07:32 *** TrueBrain [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 13:09:05 *** setrodox [~setrodox@85-125-223-119.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:09:44 *** Belugas [belugas@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 13:10:33 <neli> Eddi|zuHause3: the worst one was the highspeed train against the bridge ? 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:) 14:10:01 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498EF55.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:14:45 *** moe [~Maui_key@84.152.198.198] has joined #openttd 14:35:47 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54B37DA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:58:34 <TinoM> i noticed a "bug" : when you try joining a MP server with missing grf --> yellow button. now you can extract the missing grfs into the data directory. but you have to exit ottd to get the green button. just going back to the main and using the rescan function in the grf settings doesn't do it 14:58:56 <peter1138> indeed 14:59:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548a6eea.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:00:15 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:01:03 <TinoM> a rescan button on the server join screen would be "nice-to-have" ;) 15:01:36 <peter1138> nicer would be automatic file monitoring... 15:01:41 <peter1138> alas, not very cross platform ;p 15:04:10 *** Rubidium_ is now known as Rubidium 15:07:20 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:08:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> <neli> Eddi|zuHause3: the worst one was the highspeed train against the bridge ? <- yes. 15:09:48 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 15:13:14 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:15:27 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 15:25:43 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:33:23 <skidd13> I'm not 100% sure, but it seems that the old town layouts build no straight roads on streight tramtracks. The new ones do. 15:34:47 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 15:51:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:51:26 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:54:14 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:54:14 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:44 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.40] has joined #openttd 15:58:02 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:58:17 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:58:41 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@82-43-58-81.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:58:46 <UndernotBuilder> jasper must be very happy with one way roads lolz 15:59:20 <Sacro> why not? 15:59:56 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79adc.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:59:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 16:01:32 <skidd13> But if he'd read src/road.h he'll get mad. 16:02:09 <skidd13> ROADTYPE_HWAY = 2, <- Hm what cold that be. 16:02:18 <skidd13> cold -> could 16:03:05 <Belugas> I doubt very much he is the kind of guy who spend his free time reading code... no matter how well written it is :P 16:03:50 <Sacro> and the code round here isn't very well written 16:04:04 <Sacro> especially if its by a certian dutch/danish/netherlandian person 16:05:01 <skidd13> any prejudices? 16:05:20 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:53 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:07:02 <Sacro> skidd13: i'm not prejudiced 16:07:44 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:07:47 <skidd13> Then it must be experience... LOL 16:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> we have a word for this :p 16:08:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:08:25 <Sacro> shaudenfreud? 16:08:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> not exactly... 16:09:48 *** HMage` [Queneex@89-178-166-178.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:10:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> "Schadenfreude" is when you make fun of other people's bad luck 16:10:19 *** HMage [HMage@89-178-185-198.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:10:21 <Sacro> yeah, i was taught that by the simpsons 16:11:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> that kind of thing probably got lost in the translation... 16:11:47 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:11:47 *** orudge` [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 16:12:24 *** orudge` is now known as orudge 16:12:46 <Sacro> :o 16:12:56 <orudge> o: 16:13:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> ö 16:13:18 <Sacro> O 16:13:19 <Sacro> .. 16:13:24 <Bjarni> is orudge in Australia??? 16:13:35 <Bjarni> I mean he is upside down compared to Sacro 16:13:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'd blame sacro :p 16:13:55 * Sacro is facing south 16:14:01 <Sacro> i guess orudge is facing north 16:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> i mean Sacro is closest to a vampire we got :) 16:14:38 <Bjarni> good point 16:15:21 *** UndernotBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.105.40] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]] 16:15:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> or with the words of Jack Sparrow: "up is down" 16:16:39 <Bjarni> Sacro is a pirate? 16:17:31 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:18:03 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:18:15 <Sacro> Bjarni: yarr... 16:18:43 *** remus [numers@c-3516e155.528-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:18:56 <Bjarni> using 2p2 software doesn't have to make you talk like a pirate :p 16:19:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's p2p :p 16:19:23 <Bjarni> err 16:19:27 <Bjarni> I guess so 16:19:35 <Bjarni> it just shows how much I use it xD 16:19:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, i think you hid that well :p 16:20:32 * Bjarni just got an idea 16:20:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> everybody hide!! 16:20:56 <Bjarni> I could make the robot at uni run some 2p2 stuff.... it should work 16:21:08 <Bjarni> but then again it would make little sense to do so, but I could 16:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> universities might react badly on p2p 16:21:40 <Bjarni> that wouldn't be the only issue' 16:21:53 <Bjarni> the firewall would also act funny 16:22:04 <Bjarni> but I was more thinking like that it should be possible 16:22:08 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 16:22:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> i mean, besides the questionable legality, it also causes lots of traffic 16:22:16 <Bjarni> I could also host an OTTD game 16:22:37 <Bjarni> but without a monitor and being firewalled... it would make little sense 16:23:33 <Bjarni> but I like the idea: the server is a mobile robot that can host games 16:23:49 <Bjarni> and if the clients are too nasty to it, then it will just drive away xD 16:24:11 <Bjarni> people can get driven off a server. In this case people can drive off the server 16:24:39 <Bjarni> too bad it wouldn't work 16:24:44 <Bjarni> I mean the firewall 16:25:00 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 16:25:25 <Bjarni> also I think we should only run the software we write ourselves on it 16:26:13 <Bjarni> like the app that will make it speed up when it detects an object in front of it because you make a signed error in the speed difference request 16:27:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> sounds fun :p 16:27:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:27:34 <Wolf01> hello 16:27:51 <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 16:30:05 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-83-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:30:24 <Wolf01> yummm spritecache 16:30:56 *** HMage` [Queneex@89-178-166-178.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:44 * skidd13 is persistent and asks again for a dev review for his move orders patch @flyspray. :) Please. 16:31:59 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-4-250.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:32:26 <Wolf01> me too, but for the transparency fixes 16:32:57 *** HMage` [HMage@89-178-106-105.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:34:36 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 16:39:09 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-83-148.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:43:08 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:08 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:33 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-182-162.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:43:42 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-182-162.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #openttd [] 16:44:34 *** HMage` [HMage@89-178-106-105.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:46:30 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:30 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:46:50 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:59 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:52:18 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 16:54:46 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-175-204.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:57:16 *** maddy [~maddy@88-137-130-67.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:01:46 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:13 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:36 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:05:59 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:09 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:12:43 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:12:43 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:13:07 *** Rambo^^ [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:20 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:14:06 *** Unaimed [~Unaimed@ua-83-227-175-8.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 17:15:21 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:22 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:16 *** nitro4ce [~lucas@58-15-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #openttd 17:17:26 *** glx|away [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 17:17:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx|away] by ChanServ 17:17:48 *** glx is now known as Guest1149 17:17:49 *** glx|away is now known as glx 17:18:00 <nitro4ce> hi. installed the game but cannot play internet games. 17:18:14 <nitro4ce> (internet, not LAN) 17:19:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548a6eea.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:20:01 *** Guest1149 [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:20:55 <Belugas> nitro4ce : http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Multiplayer 17:21:00 <Belugas> have yu seen this page? 17:21:23 <nitro4ce> nope 17:21:55 *** nitro4ce [~lucas@58-15-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has quit [] 17:22:12 <Belugas> thank you would have been appreciated :S 17:22:42 <Bjarni> people aren't polite anymore :( 17:22:46 <Bjarni> I see it everywhere 17:23:28 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 17:34:47 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548a5262.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:45:02 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:45:12 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:10 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548a5262.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:53:53 <scia> on behalf of mr/mrs nitro4ce I thank you ;) 17:54:52 <Bjarni> somehow it's not the same 17:55:03 <Bjarni> but you are welcome anyway ;) 17:55:27 <Belugas> scia, thank you, it is a good move :) 17:55:39 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-105.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 17:55:47 <stillunknown> Is there anything on a railway that could somehow many it appear as MP_ROAD? 17:55:53 <scia> heh, thought so :) 17:56:00 <stillunknown> MP_STREET i mean 17:56:20 <Bjarni> maybe we should all be more polite and we can see if the visitors will be more polite as well 17:56:28 <Bjarni> somehow I don't think that plan will work though :/ 17:56:42 <Bjarni> stillunknown: road/rail level crossings... if anything 17:57:36 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 18:01:31 *** Osai is now known as Osai^Kendo 18:04:33 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:04:52 * stillunknown is having assert fun :-( 18:06:38 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:07:47 <Bjarni> that's both good and bad. It's good that you are able to detect the bugs before declaring your diff to be completed :) 18:08:57 <peter1138> heh 18:09:01 <peter1138> yes, level crossings 18:12:58 *** Osai^Kendo [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^Kendo] 18:16:25 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 18:19:20 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Tobin] 18:27:24 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-175-204.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:40 *** HMage [HMage@89-178-52-147.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 18:34:37 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has left #openttd [] 18:45:14 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57a0c83f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:48:30 *** remus [numers@c-3516e155.528-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:48:59 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0C610.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:52:36 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 18:53:23 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-75-75-4-250.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:58:57 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:00:20 <Unaimed> What does it mean when a tile is marked dirty? 19:00:54 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:01:04 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:08 <TrueBrain> that it will be redrawn in the next drwaing round 19:01:30 <Unaimed> ok 19:03:56 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 19:22:49 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:28:37 *** wolfryu [~Wolfenste@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:30:43 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has joined #openttd 19:30:48 <Gorre> hello 19:32:08 <Gorre> is it just me, or is the 'NewGRF Settings' editor in game menu really creating absolute ways to grf files instead of relative ones? 19:34:48 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:34:59 <Luukland> heya everyone 19:35:32 <Luukland> peter1138 i have an idea, shouldn't it be great if you can build airports on water? 19:36:17 <glx> Gorre: yes but only for windows it seems 19:36:25 <peter1138> airports as well known for being built on water? 19:36:48 <peter1138> *are 19:37:01 <Luukland> yes, because in the town there is no place 19:37:13 <Luukland> look at Shanghai Airport, Tokyo Airport 19:37:20 <Luukland> they all drift in the ocean 19:37:46 <Gorre> uhm, consider using the landscape tool then.. 19:37:56 <glx> Gorre: but you can modify the cfg by hand to remove all the path before data/ and it will work 19:38:16 <peter1138> uh, yeah 19:38:20 <Luukland> :P 19:38:23 <peter1138> i think you'll find they're built on reclaimed land 19:38:27 <Gorre> glx: of course, i just wondered if this glitch is well known.. 19:38:29 <Belugas> Luukland : the ISLAND on which they sit is dirfting, not the airports :) 19:38:38 <Luukland> :P 19:38:49 <Luukland> then you have an airportisland 19:38:58 <peter1138> yeah 19:38:59 <Luukland> it is just an idea 19:39:00 <Luukland> :P 19:39:08 <peter1138> use the landscape tools 19:39:11 <peter1138> just an idea 19:39:15 <Luukland> >_< 19:39:27 <Luukland> why are you so mean to me everytime i come here peter1138? 19:39:51 *** OwenS [~kvirc@5ac0cdcd.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 19:41:47 <Luukland> I am only here to tell my ideas, not to ruin this channel or something 19:41:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think you are too sensitive... 19:41:53 <Gorre> just, imagine, that everyday, dozens of luuklands come here with some kind of supadupa AMUSTHAVE suggestion.. 19:42:06 <Luukland> Well i can get into that one 19:42:21 <Luukland> but it has a slight truth in it 19:44:36 <Belugas> Luukland : what you suggest can be done with the landscape tool, it does not have to be a feature. That is what it all means :) 19:44:59 <Luukland> I totally agree 19:45:07 <Luukland> It is a stupid 19:45:10 <Luukland> idea 19:45:18 <Luukland> sorry for bothering your time 19:45:27 *** laci [~chatzilla@82.77.57.238] has joined #openttd 19:45:31 * Luukland gives peter1138 a nice hug 19:45:48 <Luukland> next time i wont see anything to you ok? :) 19:45:50 *** Luukland [~Luukland@s559031d6.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Ik wacht, en ik wacht, al sinds februari wacht ik. Ik vraag mijn zelf af: hoelang moet ik nog wachten, want er lijkt geen einde aan te komen...] 19:46:25 <laci> hello, I have a beginner question 19:46:37 <laci> who buys goods? 19:47:12 <laci> where should goods delivered to? (i assume cities, but it shows that it does not accept goods) 19:47:57 <boekabart> they need specific buildings in the city, accepting goods 19:48:10 <boekabart> usually cities of about 800-1000 people have a building like this 19:49:01 <laci> a 19:49:08 <laci> ok, i'm only in '72:) 19:49:13 <laci> thanx 19:49:43 <glx> put a bus line in a city to make it grow 19:50:28 <laci> hmm interesting 19:50:36 <laci> i only have trains and aircrafts 19:50:54 <boekabart> well passenger service does the same to cities, i think 19:51:07 <boekabart> but, in 72 you should have cities accepting goods 19:51:08 <laci> thanx 19:51:39 <boekabart> play a bit with where you put the station: the coverage needs to hit the building accepting the goods (probably a bigger building, but i'm not certain of that) 19:53:13 <laci> thx 4 the advice, i'm going back to play now:) 19:53:15 <laci> bye 19:53:17 *** laci [~chatzilla@82.77.57.238] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]] 20:18:04 <eekee> What can i do if my rating with a town is going down even though I'm not building? I have an tramway in town, unused because they wouldn't let me build the 2nd station, might removing it help? 20:18:30 *** SpBot [terom@zapotekII.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 20:21:49 <eekee> Hum, gonna try removing the unused stuff 20:22:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> eekee: i believe having unserviced stations reduces the rating even more 20:22:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> try building trees 20:22:44 <eekee> oh yes trees, thank you 20:27:09 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-67-36.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 20:29:47 <eekee> The trees worked. They worked a lot quicker when I removed the unused stations, but then I would have had to build them again 20:39:44 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4A2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:45:51 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:02 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 20:48:08 *** Gorre [dik@ip-89-102-198-103.karneval.cz] has quit [] 20:49:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10044 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: Minor NewGRF debug message fixes, and skip sprites of an unsupported Action 5 feature. 20:52:21 *** Nukebuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:53:29 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:05:11 <izhirahider> guys, I probably asked this before, but a freight tram != passenger tram because ... ? 21:06:07 <izhirahider> trams are giving me a very hard time translating 21:07:55 <peter1138> because freight is freight and passengers are passengers 21:08:26 <eekee> same as bus depot is different to truck depot, I guess 21:10:00 <izhirahider> some freight == any cargo other than passangers 21:10:02 <izhirahider> so* 21:10:16 <izhirahider> that's what I needed to know 21:12:49 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 21:13:42 <izhirahider> thanks 21:22:31 <SpComb> Logs: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd 21:22:31 <boekabart> !logs 21:32:24 *** wolfy [~Wolfenste@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 21:33:16 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:33:30 *** wolfy is now known as Wolfensteijn 21:40:18 *** Sleepie_ [~Sleepie@p54B37DA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:41:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10045 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Codechange: Process Action 8 during GLS_RESERVATION to allow Action 7/Action 9s to work properly 21:43:40 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C7AB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 21:44:56 *** graeme [~graeme@88-104-31-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:45:21 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:47:29 *** Sleepie [~Sleepie@p54B37DA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:48:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> izhirahider: an example of a freight tram is the "CarGoTram" in the city of Dresden 21:50:49 *** Osai^Kendo [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:37 *** Osai^Kendo is now known as Osai 21:54:33 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-167-71.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 21:55:50 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=593919#593919 21:55:56 <Sacro> anyone gonna fix it? :P 21:56:15 <Rubidium> oh skidd13, why did you add a patch that does multiple things to flyspray? 21:56:55 <Rubidium> can you split the non-move patch stuff from it and add it as a separate patch? 21:56:55 <skidd13> What are you talking about? 21:57:11 <skidd13> you mean the comments? 21:57:26 <Rubidium> yes, comments and changes to those tables 21:57:40 <izhirahider> Eddi|zuHause3, they are quite rare though 21:57:43 <izhirahider> thanks 21:58:03 <Rubidium> Sacro: what's the bug in there? 21:58:09 <skidd13> Rubidium: Sure 21:58:18 <Sacro> Rubidium: the level crossing shouldn't have road 21:58:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> they probably were less rare in the 1920s 21:58:24 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> which is said to be the peak time of tram systems 21:58:44 <Rubidium> Sacro: it should; it's a design choice 21:58:57 <Sacro> Rubidium: why should it/ 22:00:01 *** OwenS [~kvirc@5ac0cdcd.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:00:11 <Rubidium> t is an intentional design choice that you can only have rail-tram crossings with road beneath it. It does not draw anything wrong because there is actually road beneath the tram (a road vehicle can drive over them). 22:00:15 <Rubidium> c) if the road crossing gets gets replaced by a newgrf, the tram crossing would have a different look (flashing ligtht vs bar) 22:00:18 <Rubidium> The reason why I've chosen that you always need to have road beneath is is: 22:00:21 <Rubidium> a) I don't like to redraw a few hundred sprites to allow tram only rail crossings 22:00:24 <Rubidium> b) if those rail sprites are changed made almost none NewGRF replacement would contain the sprites for these crossings 22:00:42 <Sacro> hmmm, fair point 22:01:45 <Rubidium> another solution is just not allowing tram-rail crossings 22:02:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> bad solution 22:02:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> although i have never actually seen one 22:03:10 <Rubidium> I've heard about a elrail - eltram crossing in Hungary 22:03:56 <skidd13> Rubidium: better now -> http://bugs.openttd.org/task/828 22:03:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> every time tram and rail cross here, there are bridges 22:06:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> there might have been some in the past, but the inner city rail lines were closed a very long time ago 22:06:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> before i was born, i believe 22:06:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D28C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:52 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73EF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:45 *** Nukebuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:17:15 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10046 /trunk/src/order_gui.cpp: -Documentation: add some documentation in order_gui (skidd13). 22:20:16 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4A2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:21:00 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4A2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:43 <skidd13> gn 22:21:51 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4A2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:26:15 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:34:10 <Wolf01> 'night 22:34:13 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:41:42 *** Sleepie_ [~Sleepie@p54B37DA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: 3...2...1...quit] 22:57:23 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:03:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:50 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:02 *** Unaimed [~Unaimed@ua-83-227-175-8.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 23:13:30 <Phazorx> peter1138: if gradual loadin off - improved loading works as before ? 23:14:55 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:19:48 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:03 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 23:28:03 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-77.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:38:03 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 23:42:02 *** RamboRonny [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.3 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 23:45:14 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79adc.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving]