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00:09:08 *** strstrep [brigad@ip68-9-207-179.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:17:34 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #openttd 00:18:07 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has quit [] 00:25:00 <kaan> oh darn, sourceforge has some kind of problem refreshing the file releases from the incoming folder 00:25:18 <kaan> Ill try again tomorrow 00:25:21 <kaan> night all 00:25:32 <glx> kaan: they are automoved :) 00:25:45 <kaan> automoved? 00:26:05 <glx> you put them in incomming and they are sent in your project 00:26:18 <glx> then you release them using the interface 00:26:29 <kaan> not untill you go to the special releases page and include the file in a release 00:26:53 <kaan> heh, problem is that the page wont show any file right now 00:27:02 <glx> that's sf :) 00:27:49 <glx> you follow the naming rule? 00:28:06 <kaan> I didnt know there was a rule? 00:28:29 <kaan> i called it BuildOTTD-1.0-RC1.exe :P 00:28:52 <glx> and how is called your project? 00:29:09 <kaan> unix nick is bottd 00:29:31 <kaan> but it shouldnt matter, normally i see all the files in the incoming folder when i do this 00:29:55 <ln-> has someone seen patrouille de france irl? 00:30:17 <glx> maybe when I was younger ln- (but I can't remember) 00:32:25 <kaan> im going, se ya all :) 00:32:30 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has left #openttd [] 00:34:15 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 01:16:12 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 01:19:38 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-227-244.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:31:34 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54b751c3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:59 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54b77cbb.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:49:04 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-159-207.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has left #openttd [Leaving] 02:56:42 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-232-197.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #openttd 03:06:37 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 04:00:38 *** tokai [~tokai@p54b83127.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:02:23 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83009.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:02:27 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 04:02:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb68a7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 04:15:23 *** strstrep [brigad@ip68-9-207-179.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:34:35 *** Zojj [~Zojj@ip72-193-231-187.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:37:28 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-77.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 04:41:53 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202.154.148.243] has joined #openttd 04:43:36 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:53:56 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 05:12:43 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org] 05:24:16 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 05:30:54 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:46:58 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-155-143.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:48:17 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 05:48:24 *** Zojj [~Zojj@ip72-193-231-187.lv.lv.cox.net] has left #openttd [] 05:48:27 *** lolman_ [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 05:52:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r10060 /trunk/src/lang/ (6 files): 05:52:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-06-08 07:51:39 05:52:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: estonian - 228 changed by kristjans (228) 05:52:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: japanese - 13 fixed by ickoonite (13) 05:52:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: portuguese - 2 fixed by izhirahider (2) 05:52:13 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: slovenian - 99 fixed by Necrolyte (99) 05:55:39 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:57:35 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-185-71.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 06:04:14 *** Jerub [~gideon@webserver.suqueensland.org.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:04:29 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-137-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:07:29 *** Frostregen8 [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-140-208.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:07:59 *** Frostregen8 is now known as Frostregen__ 06:10:40 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-130-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:12:43 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-137-052.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:25:36 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 06:28:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10061 /trunk/src/newgrf_engine.cpp: -Codechange: [NewGRF] Add common cargo subtype support to vehicle var 42 06:28:41 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [] 06:36:55 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 06:39:32 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 06:42:41 *** Nigel [~nigel@202.154.148.243] has joined #openttd 06:44:26 *** Nigel_ [~nigel@202.154.148.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:06:41 *** maddy [~maddy@88-136-244-96.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #openttd 07:09:05 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:31:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> <ln-> has someone seen patrouille de france irl? <- what exactly is that? 07:37:35 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has joined #openttd 07:44:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C2B4.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:01:03 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 08:04:31 <boekabart> hm. how can i see what linux distro/version is installed when logged on to a shell 08:04:46 <boekabart> it doesn't seem to know apt-get :( 08:05:29 <Sionide> uname -a 08:05:37 <Sionide> or... um 08:05:44 <Sionide> cat /etc/version 08:05:47 <Sionide> i think 08:05:55 <boekabart> Sionide: LOL: unknown unknown GNU/Linux 08:05:56 <Sionide> cat: /etc/version: No such file or directory 08:06:02 <Sionide> bummer 08:06:03 <boekabart> 2.4.29 08:06:10 <Sionide> Linux sphinx 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Wed May 23 01:46:23 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux 08:06:11 <boekabart> anyway, it doesn't have apt-get 08:06:26 <Sionide> heh,sucks... 08:08:25 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498F606.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:09:01 <boekabart> is that installable? 08:09:43 <boekabart> i don't even know how to install a rpm or deb 08:10:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> rpm --help? 08:10:15 <boekabart> heh, that works :) 08:11:30 *** moe [~Maui_key@p5498C647.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:11:31 <Sionide> dpkg -i foo.deb 08:11:40 <Sionide> just use linux i686 nightly build or such 08:11:54 <Sionide> extract it and you're done 08:13:22 <Sacro> wget, tar, make 08:13:43 <boekabart> ok say I downloaded the rpm for git 08:13:47 <boekabart> from http://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/RPMS/i386/git-1.4.4.4-1.i386.rpm 08:14:02 <boekabart> then,there is this rpm command that exists 08:14:16 <boekabart> and then? 08:18:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> rpm -ihv file.rpm or something 08:20:56 <boekabart> !! thanks Eddi|zuHause3 08:23:30 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 08:25:31 *** Tobin_ [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 08:25:31 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:18 *** Tobin_ [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 08:44:41 *** lolman_ [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:12:01 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:29:25 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31:14 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:34:01 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10062 /trunk/src/ (5 files): -Codechange: Don't redraw all station tiles when cargo is added or removed if the station has no custom graphics. 09:36:28 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 09:49:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C426.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:19:12 *** Sug [~graeme@88-104-31-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 10:25:20 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 10:34:01 *** Gekkko [kvirc@60.228.153.115] has joined #openttd 10:34:06 <Gekkko> openttd turns me on 10:34:16 <Gekkko> lol 10:34:41 <peter1138> weirdo 10:34:48 <Gekkko> :( 10:34:56 <Gekkko> i was just jerking around >_>! 10:35:00 <boekabart> even more gross 10:35:09 <Gekkko> rofl, inuendo unintended 10:35:23 <Gekkko> I use PalmTTD, a crappy version of OpenTTD that crashs at the year 2005 10:35:26 <Gekkko> because of memory leaks :P 10:35:35 <Gekkko> it uses a 0.4.x nightly build. 10:36:20 <TrueBrain> morning all 10:36:27 <Gekkko> morning 10:37:28 <boekabart> Q: when a train is going over a bridge/through a tunnel 10:37:33 *** TheJosh [~josh@d220-238-156-217.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 10:37:52 <TheJosh> hey thanks everyone for all the help yesterday 10:37:58 <boekabart> are his pos_x/pos_y moving? 10:38:09 <boekabart> (knowing that he does remain on the bridgehead tile) 10:38:20 <TrueBrain> yes, else the viewport of the train wouldn't update ;) 10:38:27 <boekabart> thought so 10:48:42 *** TheJosh [~josh@d220-238-156-217.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #openttd [] 10:58:05 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Quit: Logout] 10:59:00 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:11:49 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-66-31-55-122.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:14 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:38:47 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 11:39:42 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 11:51:09 *** Netsplit galapagos.oftc.net <-> panulirus.oftc.net quits: Zavior 11:52:43 *** qfh [~qfh@static-ip-62-75-161-163.inaddr.intergenia.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:52:57 *** Netsplit over, joins: Zavior 11:52:57 *** qfh [~qfh@static-ip-62-75-161-163.inaddr.intergenia.de] has joined #openttd 12:21:59 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:37:17 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.4/2007051502]] 12:41:05 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-77.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:42:13 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:46:39 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-159-207.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:51:34 *** Gekkko [kvirc@60.228.153.115] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org - Now less gay.] 12:59:51 <Belugas> hello 13:09:47 <Digitalfox> Hello Belugas :) 13:11:02 <skidd13> hi 13:13:53 <Belugas> good afternon guys :) 13:14:14 <Belugas> (somebody reminded it was afternoon over there...) 13:16:28 <boekabart> Belugas: it's almost weekend here 13:17:33 <Belugas> yeah... i can imagine 13:17:55 <Belugas> although mine is so booked by God Wife that i would not be able to rest... 13:19:09 <Belugas> I have to remove all the tiles on my entry floor, put some plywood over the whole entrance corridor whit my father, cut the grass, open up a new spot on the garden for more flowers... 13:19:24 <Belugas> on top of all the regular weekend duties :S 13:22:01 <peter1138> hm 13:24:53 <skidd13> did someone tried Zojj's performance meter patch? 13:25:12 <skidd13> did -> Has 13:27:37 <Belugas> skidd13 : I didn't 13:27:59 <peter1138> it should update less often, else it'll affect results ;p 13:29:03 <skidd13> patch fails to compile. :( SYSTEMTIME is unkonwn. Shouldn't be there an include? 13:38:17 <skidd13> damned it's winows.h ! so no OS compatibility :( 13:41:55 <skidd13> winows.h -> windows.h 13:50:46 <boekabart> skidd13: you need millisec? 13:51:25 <skidd13> ? 13:51:37 <boekabart> SYSTEMTIME return ms? 13:51:52 <peter1138> my fps counter just counted the ticks as provided by the video driver 13:51:58 <peter1138> of course, it only works for the sdl driver, hehe 13:53:00 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 13:55:27 <boekabart> for win this is good timer code: http://paste.openttd.org/91 13:55:42 <boekabart> and systemtime for non-win 13:59:05 <TrueBrain> use TIC/TOC if ou use OpenTTD :p 14:04:04 <skidd13> I just wanted to test zojj's performance meter patch for openttd, but it needs, "windows.h". And I'm using Linux, so no windows.h. What provides this TIC/TOC? 14:04:18 <TrueBrain> TIC/TOC is a debug thingy to time things :) 14:04:37 <peter1138> debug.h 14:06:22 *** Touqen [~stephen@c-66-31-55-122.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:24:07 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:31:56 <skidd13> I was thinking about the sprites in openttd.grf. It would be nice to change them via newgrf. What about Action 5 Type 07? There could be an action 7/9 before to check for openttd. 14:36:36 <peter1138> type 7? 14:37:03 <Belugas> gui sprites 14:37:04 <Belugas> but 14:37:05 <peter1138> hmm 14:37:11 <Belugas> skidd13, what do youmean? 14:37:57 <skidd13> ttdpatch maps them. so why can't openttd map them another way? 14:41:26 <peter1138> might as well just add another type 14:41:37 <peter1138> as a little patch i have does 14:41:43 <boekabart> peter1138: commit! 14:41:50 <peter1138> never! 14:41:51 <boekabart> trunk doesn't need to be stable anyway :) 14:41:59 <peter1138> i never commit patches, least of all mine 14:42:08 <Belugas> iirc, it can be done as is. Just use the sprite id + the offset of our own opentttdbase 14:42:29 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4884.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:42:34 <Belugas> somebody did it already 14:42:38 <Belugas> it was.. hem 14:42:44 <peter1138> dodgy 14:42:52 <peter1138> if the offset changed, heh 14:42:59 <boekabart> it never does though 14:43:06 <peter1138> it does with my patch ;) 14:43:14 <Belugas> ha... mart3p 14:43:14 <boekabart> never commit that then! 14:43:34 <Belugas> ah... offset changing... indeed 14:45:01 *** Osai [~Osai@pd9eb4884.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:49:18 <glx> I remember me changing offsets in r10017 :) 14:51:03 <peter1138> indeed 14:52:00 * boekabart stands corrected 14:52:29 * boekabart is so deeply ashamed that he's going home now 14:52:35 *** boekabart [~boekabart@81.58.27.138] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 14:54:02 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7CC0.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:58:14 <Belugas> yeah right... 14:58:22 <Belugas> have a nice weekend ayway... 14:58:27 <Belugas> even if you already left :) 15:02:24 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:07:20 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 15:13:50 *** maddy [~maddy@88-136-244-96.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:20:15 *** maddy [~maddy@88-136-244-96.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #openttd 15:20:27 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:38:08 <stillunknown> Is it possible not to redraw stuff every tick? 15:38:18 <peter1138> which stuff? 15:38:30 <stillunknown> Like track related stuff. 15:38:48 <peter1138> stuff is only redrawn if it's marked dirty 15:39:37 <stillunknown> Then why does the drawing of catenaries take so much cpu? 15:40:16 <peter1138> because it's... cpu intensive? 15:40:23 <Rubidium> because there's some complex algorithm to determine where to draw the poles 15:40:49 <peter1138> store it on the map? heh 15:40:56 <hylje> why not? 15:41:06 <hylje> its not like the poles are dynamic 15:41:09 <peter1138> map space, presumably 15:41:28 <Rubidium> hylje: they are (slightly) 15:41:39 <Rubidium> IIRC 15:41:47 <peter1138> yeah, it can depend on whats around it 15:41:57 <peter1138> but you could cater for that when building 15:42:01 <peter1138> (or removing) 15:42:10 <peter1138> wonder how many map bits it would require, heh 15:43:04 *** remus_ [numers@c-3516e155.528-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:43:21 <Rubidium> 4 15:45:18 <Rubidium> and 2 on level crossings/stations 15:47:47 <hylje> with map-level catenary 15:48:19 <hylje> it could be easier to do multitile catenary poles 15:49:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r10063 /trunk/src/ (industry.h industry_cmd.cpp): 15:49:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Change VARDEF for extern 15:49:03 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -CodeChange: Add the count of industries, basic support for variable 67, var action02 forindustries 15:49:21 <hylje> typo 15:50:36 <Belugas> not a big one... and when doing 3 things at the same time, it can be expected :P 15:57:06 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79adc.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:57:07 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:59:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r10064 /trunk/src/industry.h: -Fix(r10063): compile again, when changing stuff. DOn't trust first run 16:05:07 <stillunknown> Do tiles get dirtied when a vehicle leaves a tile? 16:05:52 <peter1138> yes 16:06:03 <peter1138> and moves over it in general 16:06:18 <Rubidium> peter1138: isn't it only the viewport? 16:07:23 <peter1138> well 16:07:30 <peter1138> it marks the viewport area as dirty 16:07:35 <peter1138> which causes the tiles to be redrawn 16:07:38 <peter1138> so much the same effect 16:08:21 <stillunknown> So the entire viewport is marked dirty? 16:08:34 <peter1138> no, only the area covered by the vehicle 16:11:44 *** Wolfensteijn [~Wolfenste@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:12:16 <stillunknown> peter1138: were in the code does it determine if a tile in the viewport should be marked dirty? 16:24:42 <peter1138> ViewportAddLandscape() probably 16:24:51 <peter1138> well 16:25:02 <peter1138> that's where it actually draws them if the area was marked dirty 16:25:20 <peter1138> EndVehicleMove() marks the area dirty when vehicles move 16:27:34 <Phazorx> is stillunknown patch in trunk yet? :) 16:28:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:29:38 <Wolf01> hello 16:30:55 <peter1138> no 16:31:37 <Wolf01> yes 16:34:08 <Belugas> maybe 16:36:50 <Digitalfox> lol 16:36:56 <hylje> both 16:37:04 <Belugas> none 16:37:10 <hylje> all of the aboce 16:37:13 <hylje> all of the above 16:37:48 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 16:40:33 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl10-67-36.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]] 16:41:35 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6466.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:42:58 <TrueBrain> none of the above 16:43:32 *** |2rB [~Twofish@195.204.107.4] has joined #openttd 16:43:36 <Wolf01> look what i started! i'm the chaos! 16:43:48 <Belugas> depends on the weather 16:47:00 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:15 <Touqen> on any given sunday 16:49:38 * Touqen wonders what he should do for lunch 16:51:22 <Belugas> don't DO lunch.. CALL for lunch 16:51:28 <Belugas> PIZZA 16:51:34 <Belugas> or whatever suits ya 16:51:41 <Belugas> ;) 16:52:41 <Touqen> So my computer decided to stop behaving properly :/ 16:53:08 <Touqen> I did a windows update and updated my video drivers and my puter started freezing almost immediately after boot. 16:53:19 <Touqen> I reverted my video drivers and it still freezes :/ 16:53:45 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r10065 /trunk/src/newgrf_house.h: -Cleanup (r9850): remove now unneeded stuff 16:53:47 <Belugas> mmhh... freeze... 16:53:50 <Belugas> frozen 16:53:55 <Belugas> POPSICLES! 16:54:00 <Belugas> ICE CREAM! 16:54:24 <skidd13> Touquen: Is MS office installed? 16:55:21 <Touqen> nope 16:58:48 <skidd13> Check if svchost.exe causes high cpu usage 16:59:15 <Touqen> I would but half the time it dies just before the login dialog. 16:59:20 <Touqen> s/half/most of the time/ 16:59:28 <glx> skidd13: which one ? :D 16:59:44 <Touqen> I'll probably do a repair install when I get the time and see if that fixes it if not, it's reformatting time :D 17:00:26 <skidd13> the one which acts with the ms update. check it with this tool -> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx 17:00:48 <skidd13> I've had trouble with it the recent weeks at my department. 17:03:56 <skidd13> In the case that is your problem check this site: http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2007/05/15/microsoft-s-follow-up-fix-on-100-cpu-usage-svchost-exe-msi.aspx 17:08:53 <skidd13> how far is newindustries support? 17:09:05 <glx> progressing :) 17:09:23 <skidd13> :) 17:09:42 <Belugas> but slowly... 17:09:53 <Belugas> but nicely :D 17:11:04 <skidd13> hey, it's open source, and allways free time, so don't agitate! ;) 17:13:29 <peter1138> shut up 17:13:34 <peter1138> we want newindustries NOW! 17:13:39 <hylje> no 17:13:41 <hylje> yesterday 17:15:00 <stillunknown> peter1138: I have been testing these hashmap improvements 17:15:55 <stillunknown> peter1138: I'm almost embarrassed to say that they work better than my patch. 17:16:05 <hylje> ha 17:16:06 <hylje> owned! 17:16:08 <stillunknown> based on a few minutes of profiling 17:17:26 <stillunknown> For some reason the gfx stuff seems to cause less load. 17:17:36 <stillunknown> too 17:17:43 <stillunknown> Maybe due to the seperate hashmaps? 17:17:46 <Phazorx> can both be combined? 17:18:31 <stillunknown> It can be coded to work together, but i'm more inclined to push for these changes first. 17:19:20 <stillunknown> But i need to longer profiling first. 17:21:17 <Rubidium> Phazorx: not really. The separate hashmaps are a big part of the speedup. 17:21:38 <Rubidium> one is in "map" coordinates, the other in "viewport" coordinates 17:22:03 <stillunknown> But the performance seems to be sweet. 17:22:17 <Phazorx> even with huge games? 17:23:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... especially with huge games... 17:24:13 <Phazorx> cool 17:24:16 <stillunknown> I wonder why this was never picked up by someone. 17:24:24 * Phazorx waits for the patch trunked impatiently 17:25:24 <Rubidium> because the forum isn't the place to make patches trackable 17:27:34 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:28:10 <stillunknown> But still, someone must have noticed. 17:28:46 <Rubidium> yes, and then forgot about it 17:30:27 <Rubidium> skidd13: why is the ClearSlot in CmdMoveOrders? 17:30:41 <Phazorx> optimization is good and there is always room for soem more 17:32:03 <skidd13> Rubidium: Good question. Have to check that. 17:32:12 <stillunknown> Phazorx: i tested the local&express concept, it outperforms my "solution" 17:34:12 <Phazorx> that's impressive 17:34:37 <stillunknown> I never realised the hashmap was such a bottleneck. 17:35:03 <skidd13> Rubidium: I got it, it seems to be at the wrong place. It belongs to the update of the current_order. 17:35:52 <skidd13> It should be placed after u->cur_order_index = target_order; and the v should be changed to u. 17:37:33 <Rubidium> but still, why ClearSlot 17:38:13 <Rubidium> the orders that the vehicles have do not change, so no reason to clear the slot (I think) 17:39:05 <skidd13> Then it is not nessesary in CmdSkipTo too. 17:39:40 <Rubidium> there it is, because you change the "current" order of the vehicle 17:39:53 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@dD5E03DCF.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 17:41:22 <peter1138> pomtepom 17:42:10 <skidd13> Theoretical could it be that you change the order. But if you think that it's not needed. 17:43:25 <Rubidium> well, moving orders doesn't change the order (I assume) 17:44:19 <stillunknown> peter1138: i posted some profiling in the thread 17:44:22 <skidd13> I experienced that If the order is changed in the same moment as the vehicle is leaving the station.... 17:44:47 <stillunknown> peter1138: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=594862#594862 17:46:23 <skidd13> It's development trunk and you are a dev not me. So you have to choose! 17:47:39 <Rubidium> skidd13: I fear more about the other case 17:48:21 <skidd13> Rubidium: What are you talking about? 17:49:13 <Rubidium> vehicles trying to go to a station and then getting their allocated slot cleared 17:50:51 <skidd13> Hmm, agreed, so go ahead with removing it. 17:51:21 <skidd13> Beside g++-4.2 gives a warning src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp: In member function »void CBlobT<Titem_, Tbase_>::Free() [with Titem_ = int, Tbase_ = CBlobBaseSimple]«: 17:51:35 <skidd13> src/yapf/../misc/blob.hpp:240: Warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X - c) >= X is always true 17:54:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r10066 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_commons.cpp newgrf_commons.h newgrf_house.cpp): -Codechange: Expose function GetNearbyTile by moving it to newgrf_commons.[cpp|h]. Will be used by industries in a few. 17:55:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10067 /trunk/Makefile.in: -Add: 'make run-prof' profiles your code, simular to 'make run' and 'make run-gdb' 17:57:31 <stillunknown> TrueBrain: what's the advantage to make run? 17:57:40 <stillunknown> with profiling enabled 17:57:49 <TrueBrain> less typing 17:59:06 * skidd13 wonders how fast g++-4.4 -O3 compiled openttd starts 17:59:26 <skidd13> g++-4.4 ->g++-4.2 18:00:09 <stillunknown> Bjarni: ping 18:00:46 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:02:29 *** Zojj [~Zojj@ip72-193-231-187.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:51 *** maddy [~maddy@88-136-244-96.adslgp.cegetel.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:54 *** remus [numers@c-3516e155.528-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:10:59 *** Rubidium is now known as blathijs2 18:11:11 *** blathijs2 is now known as Rubidium 18:13:02 <Sug> can anyone suggest a way of showing different speeds line side other than different colours, its a bit small to simply write the speed 18:13:35 <Wolf01> different shapes 18:15:30 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10068 /trunk/src/dock_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#835]: coverage area highlight was still show when it was turned off for docks. 18:15:38 *** skidd13 is now known as skidd13|away_pizza_for_dinner 18:16:58 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-227-197.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:17:02 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-227-197.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 18:18:34 <Bjarni> stillunknown: pong 18:19:51 <stillunknown> Bjarni: I have determined that SmatZ' modifications work faster than what i did, so i suggest you try that and maybe try to speed up the process ;-) 18:22:46 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-97.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:23:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10069 /trunk/src/debug.h: -Documentation: some documentation for TIC/TOC, as it isn't what I expected... 18:25:50 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:20 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:26:32 <TrueBrain> stillunknown: I created 'make run' because I was too lazy to do: cd bin && ./openttd, all the time 18:26:42 <TrueBrain> then I made the env var: OPENTTD_ARGS, which controls what goes behind ./openttd 18:26:48 <TrueBrain> and now we also have make run-gdb and make run-prof 18:26:55 <TrueBrain> so you can easy switch between gdb runs and normal ones 18:26:59 <TrueBrain> lazy lazy lazy 18:27:10 <Rubidium> so he doesn't need to do "gprof ./openttd" 18:27:22 * Phazorx wants voice control module for building trains 18:28:34 <hylje> Dear aunt double the killer select all: Invalid command 18:29:16 <peter1138> heh 18:29:23 <peter1138> i always just type bin/openttd :p 18:29:38 <TrueBrain> make run <- 8 chars 18:29:42 <TrueBrain> bin/openttd <- 11 chars 18:29:43 <TrueBrain> see :) 18:29:57 <Rubidium> make&&bin/openttd <- 17 chars 18:30:05 *** KritiK_ [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-180.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 18:30:10 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: make;bin/openttd 18:30:11 <Phazorx> you gues ever heard about aliases :o) 18:30:13 <TrueBrain> unsafe, but 1 less char :) 18:30:19 <peter1138> make run <- 8 chars *still* 18:32:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> bin/o[tab] <- 6 keys 18:34:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> unfortunately b[tab] does not work, because it completes programs in path, not subdirectories 18:34:50 <Wolf01> just one question, if scenarios are savegames, why not make possible to edit savegames directly without renaming them? and load scenarios in dedicated servers without renaming them? 18:35:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> ./b[tab]o[tab] works though 18:35:22 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-97.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:35:25 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 18:35:59 <peter1138> export PATH=bin/:$PATH 18:36:01 <peter1138> :p 18:36:27 <Phazorx> really... this is why aliases were invented 18:36:36 <Phazorx> less typing for common tasks 18:41:19 <skidd13|away_pizza_for_dinner> belugas: geat idea to order a pizza. yummy 18:43:15 <skidd13|away_pizza_for_dinner> geat -> great 18:43:44 *** skidd13|away_pizza_for_dinner is now known as skidd13 18:43:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> arghh... he is branded by real life contact... he might be contageous!! 18:45:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10070 /trunk/src/ (gfx.cpp zoom.hpp): -Fix: fix the rounding problem of zoom-levels in zoom.hpp, so it is global for every call 18:45:45 <TrueBrain> 10070... almost 10101! 18:47:03 <Belugas> good for you skidd13 :D 18:47:14 <Belugas> yeah, another party! 18:47:21 <Belugas> the binary commit! 18:48:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> is that when people get nightmares if it is 10102? 18:49:41 <skidd13> Name it party 21. Damned 21 is only half the truth. :) 18:50:08 <TrueBrain> true :) 18:52:10 <skidd13> I'm off to the beer garden. GN 18:52:43 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6466.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:54:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> is "beer garden" even a proper english term? 18:57:00 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:59:31 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: we have beer gardens 18:59:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> fine :) 18:59:48 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2B3F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:59:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10071 /trunk/src/ (5 files in 2 dirs): -Feature [FS#828]: moving of orders (skidd13). 19:00:00 *** Neonox [~Neonox@p57B2B3F5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 19:03:49 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79adc.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:03:52 <Phazorx> moving of orders? 19:04:18 <Noldo> some drag-drop stuff maybe 19:04:25 <Phazorx> btw... suggestion... 19:04:54 <Phazorx> for tuning/optimizing of largenetworks it's important to know average speed and number of trains passing throguh certain point 19:05:04 <Phazorx> is it possible to add that to WP functionality? 19:05:20 <Phazorx> 2 counter one for speed another for number of passed trains and ability to reset them 19:06:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10072 /trunk/src/zoom.hpp: -Fix r10070: typo in zoom.hpp 19:07:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> Phazorx: there used to be a "waypoint statistics" patch on the forum, maybe that helps 19:08:33 <Phazorx> well since i'm talking about coop games - is it trunkable? 19:09:51 <hylje> TRUNKABLE 19:10:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have no idea 19:10:11 <Phazorx> it would be very ncie to have that 19:11:11 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:38 <peter1138> hmm 19:14:50 <peter1138> this order moving thing doesn't give a visual indication that that is what you're doing :o 19:15:11 <TrueBrain> :o :o :o 19:15:16 <TrueBrain> useless function 19:15:19 <TrueBrain> let me revert it 19:15:23 <hylje> ":o" * n+1 19:15:34 *** TrueBrain is now known as Tron 19:15:39 <Tron> let me revert it 19:15:42 *** Tron is now known as TrueBrain 19:15:44 <TrueBrain> Oh, that is nasty :) 19:15:47 <peter1138> :o 19:16:02 <TrueBrain> sorry, bad joke 19:16:38 <hylje> no, it was witty 19:18:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> @seen tron 19:18:13 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause3: tron was last seen in #openttd 2 minutes and 32 seconds ago: <Tron> let me revert it 19:18:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> you totally confused the bot :p 19:18:35 <TrueBrain> :) How nasty! 19:18:41 <glx> the bot is stupid :) 19:18:54 <glx> !seen tron 19:18:55 <_42_> glx, Tron (truelight@openttd.org) was last seen changing his/her nick to TrueBrain on #openttd.notice 3 minutes ago (08.06. 19:15). TrueBrain is still there. 19:19:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> you'd kinda expect that from a DorpsGek :p 19:19:49 <glx> yes the name is explicit :D 19:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> ps: what do we need two bots for? 19:20:38 <TrueBrain> Hmm, good question 19:20:43 <TrueBrain> @kick Eddi|zuHause3 We don't like two bots! 19:20:43 *** Eddi|zuHause3 was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [We don't like two bots!] 19:20:45 <TrueBrain> oh, wait..... :p 19:20:58 <hylje> now *that's* hilarious 19:21:16 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54b751c3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:21:28 <TrueBrain> sorry Eddi|zuHause3, bad TrueBrain, bad bad bad TrueBrain 19:21:33 <Phazorx> sad http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=19105 19:21:39 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause3: looks likr it died 19:21:42 <Phazorx> like 19:21:48 <Phazorx> before getting comminted :( 19:22:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> gnah, typed /join #openttd in the wrong server window :p 19:23:36 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 19:24:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, i think what i meant was a different patch... it was part of the miniin 19:33:35 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:36:18 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #openttd 19:37:25 <Barry> good evening 19:46:04 *** boekabart [~bdb@e215192.upc-e.chello.nl] has left #openttd [] 19:49:32 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:50:10 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 19:50:25 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 19:57:21 *** Sug [~graeme@88-104-31-62.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:59:17 <Barry> Anyone online? 19:59:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> no. 20:00:04 <Barry> hahaha 20:00:15 <hylje> maybe 20:00:26 <Sacro> maybe not 20:01:37 <Barry> I opened a scenario that was made in an older version of openttd an d now some newgrf are not loaded when I open the scenario in in a nightlyversion. Is that correct or can I fix it? 20:03:16 <Rubidium> on the toolbar there's a wrench, click on it, then select newgrf settings 20:03:31 <Rubidium> there you can add all needed grfs, and then you can click on apply 20:12:46 <Barry> I have allready al of them standard added in my version 20:18:13 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 20:20:32 <Barry> Somebody wanna test the scenario with his nightly edition? 20:21:44 <ln-> gah, how do i choose another compiler? 20:23:54 <Kjetil> CC= 20:24:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> Barry: if they were not saved with the scenario, they will not be loaded with the scenario 20:25:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> and before 0.5, newgrf information was not saved at all, so no newgrfs will be loaded 20:25:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> the newgrfs you add from the title screen only apply to new games, not scenarios 20:25:54 <Barry> Ok is there any way to pump them in the scenario? Or do I have to create that scenario in nightly? 20:26:34 <Barry> ok thats a pity. Because I found a nice scenario of The NEtherlands and parts of Germany and Belgium\ 20:26:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> you need to load the scenario, add the newgrfs manually, and save it again, then it will be loaded with the newgrfs 20:27:50 <Barry> How can I add them manually in a scenario? Is there some sticky for it? 20:28:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> read what rubidium said 20:29:30 <ln-> Kjetil: wrong answer 20:29:48 <Kjetil> ln-: never ! 20:32:36 <ln-> have i mentioned earlier that the new build system is in many senses completely fucked up. 20:33:53 <stillunknown> why? 20:37:29 *** Zr40 [~Zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:41:14 <peter1138> i think you mentioned it, yes 20:48:19 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:50:19 <ln-> ok. 20:50:36 <ln-> how do i choose another compiler, btw? 20:51:10 <Belugas> strange question... 20:51:30 <Belugas> why not starting by checking waht is available foryour OS? 20:51:42 <Belugas> then, among those, which one is supported by OTTD? 20:51:44 <ln-> i know what is available; distcc. 20:52:07 <Belugas> so? 20:52:25 <peter1138> CC=distcc 20:52:25 <Belugas> change OS? 20:52:31 <peter1138> as Kjetil said 20:52:47 <glx> configure --help 20:52:59 <ln-> $ DISTCC_HOSTS='localhost/2 192.168.1.136/2' make -j 4 CC=distcc CXX=distcc VERBOSE=1 20:53:02 <ln-> ... 20:53:04 <ln-> g++ -DUNIX -DWITH_REV -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wno-multichar -Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wwrite-strings -Wpointer-arith -W -Wno-unused-parameter -DWITH_SDL -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT ... 20:54:03 <ln-> ah, so i needed to run configure with CC= 20:54:17 <Belugas> so much easier with MSVC... 20:54:17 <glx> yes 20:54:17 <Belugas> all those options... 20:54:17 <Belugas> brrrrrr 20:54:18 <ln-> are you saying that's the normal procedure? 20:54:20 <Belugas> siver donw the spin 20:54:25 <Belugas> shiver 20:54:28 <Belugas> down 20:55:03 <peter1138> hehe 20:55:05 <peter1138> checking build system type... /usr/bin/ccache unusable 20:55:13 <peter1138> the CC environment variable is set, but it doesn't seem to be a gcc binary 20:55:16 <peter1138> stupid thign :p 20:58:40 <ln-> what's going on: 20:58:41 <ln-> distcc -I /home/lauri/openttd/objs/lang /home/lauri/openttd/src/endian_check.cpp -o endian_check 20:58:44 <ln-> /tmp/cc8tKMZ3.o:(.eh_frame+0x11): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0' 20:58:47 <ln-> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 20:58:50 <ln-> distcc[27486] ERROR: compile /home/lauri/openttd/src/endian_check.cpp on localhost failed 20:59:49 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@81-233-244-56-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.3 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 20:59:50 <ln-> hmmm, must be because it's trying to link the file, too. 21:01:51 <ln-> so $CC shouldn't be used for that. 21:02:26 <ln-> besides, it's actually CXX= that matters. 21:07:49 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:10:54 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 21:11:58 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 21:12:03 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 21:15:03 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4884.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10073 /trunk/src/ (fileio.cpp newgrf.cpp newgrf_config.cpp stdafx.h win32.cpp): -Codechange: make the NewGRF paths in the config file without any full paths (again). 21:18:43 <stillunknown> rubidium: how will this work when newgrf's with the same name are in different folders? 21:19:40 <Rubidium> as it did 21:19:56 <stillunknown> And how was that? 21:19:57 <Rubidium> unless it has the same name in the "second data dir" too 21:20:10 <stillunknown> yes, same name 21:20:22 <Rubidium> you have to give the "path" from /data/ (without the /data/) 21:20:50 <stillunknown> ok 21:21:13 <Rubidium> so only *if* you have the "second data dir" enable, which you most likely do not have, it'll just load all GRFs regardless of their name, but duplicates (GRF ID + md5sum) will only be shown once 21:25:22 *** bencvt [~bencvt@va-71-53-204-176.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 21:29:41 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.95] has joined #openttd 21:29:49 <stillunknown> peter1138: You saw the profiling i did? 21:30:11 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 21:33:22 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:34:48 *** Nickman [~nick_defr@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:36:31 *** kaan [~Klaus@82.192.152.195] has joined #openttd 21:36:44 <kaan> good evening :) 21:37:02 <Desolator> g'night 21:37:06 <Desolator> (at least for me) 21:38:01 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-159-207.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> not even midnight yet :) 21:38:23 <Desolator> any chance of being able to apply more patches using BOTTD? 21:39:23 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 21:39:50 <Rubidium> Desolator: no 21:39:57 <Desolator> :( 21:40:08 <Desolator> WhY? 21:40:40 <Rubidium> because patches can collide very easily 21:41:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> use tortoisesvn instead 21:41:49 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: then it's still likely that patches collide 21:41:53 <Desolator> yeah I use it but it's a pain waiting for MSVC to compile OTTD, it's slow 21:42:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> yes, but it has a builtin utility to resolve that :p 21:42:11 <Rubidium> Desolator: then don't build release binaries 21:42:35 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: it won't resolve collisions when you apply multiple patches correctly in all cases 21:42:44 <Desolator> debug isn't any faster in compiling here and it's slower cuz of the debug window 21:43:04 <bencvt> Desolator: you can always just cat two patches together and hope for the best 21:43:20 <bencvt> chances are there will be a collision of course if the patches arent simple 21:43:54 <Desolator> well one doing with the stations and one with trains won't collide 21:44:05 <bencvt> they might. 21:44:14 <bencvt> depends which files they touch, and where 21:44:21 <bencvt> and how 21:44:23 <bencvt> :P 21:44:31 <Desolator> yeah...but that's rare 21:44:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have had the most unexpected collisions already 21:44:55 <Desolator> anyway, thanks, i'll go to bed 21:44:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> like two totally unrelated patches adding strings at the end of english.txt :) 21:44:57 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.95] has quit [Quit: cya] 21:58:04 *** geoffk [~geoffk@host86-130-159-207.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:59:59 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C2B4.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4DA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:37 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 22:12:13 <kaan> Rubidium: thank for providin tech support for me ;) 22:12:26 <kaan> man i cant spell tonight 22:13:10 <kaan> anyways, BuildOTTD 1.0-RC1 is up now :) 22:23:04 *** De_Ghost [~De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:15 <skidd13> Is there dev interest for the new order text display or the new order gui (text button based)? 22:49:36 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 22:51:24 <geoffk> if i set autoclean_protected 0 would a company get deleted? i want to clean up comanies with no pass set but not ones which have 22:52:06 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C426.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:35 <geoffk> i need to go out for 30 mins, thanks in advance to anyone who can answer that 22:53:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B76C73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:01 <Wolf01> 'night 22:54:04 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host202-235-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:56:37 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54b751c3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:04:12 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:23:24 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 1.5.0.10/2007021601]] 23:25:04 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #openttd 23:25:16 *** HMage` [HMage@89-178-136-66.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 23:25:46 *** Barry [~chatzilla@84-245-3-240.dsl.cambrium.nl] has quit [] 23:31:39 *** HMage [Queneex@89-178-185-71.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:07 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4DA5.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 23:43:02 *** setrodox [~setrodox@83-65-232-197.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has quit [Quit: Hapiness ;D] 23:44:04 *** Nickman [~nick_defr@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has left #openttd [] 23:53:32 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]