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00:02:13 <JazzyJaffa> Hi all, is there currently a way to change YAPF's m_max_search_nodes on a "per pathfinder" basis? 00:03:36 <Rubidium> JazzyJaffa: what do you mean exactly with that? 00:03:42 <Rubidium> there is only one YAPF instance 00:04:09 <JazzyJaffa> I thought there was one for each transport type? 00:04:47 <Rubidium> hmm, you might be right 00:04:50 <JazzyJaffa> Currently m_max_search_nodes is set in the constructor and is protected 00:05:14 <JazzyJaffa> I can add a way to modify it, just wanted to avoid duplication 00:05:25 <Rubidium> why is it needed that that can be changed? 00:05:56 <JazzyJaffa> I'm experimenting with YAPF for construction of rail lines 00:07:30 <JazzyJaffa> the default doesn't get you far enough 00:08:40 <JazzyJaffa> YAPF is a really nice piece of code though, very flexible 00:09:16 *** Moose^ [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has joined #openttd 00:12:24 *** Rippsy [~Moose@malcolmi.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:18:20 *** Moose^ is now known as Rippsy 00:23:13 *** Moose^ [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has joined #openttd 00:26:52 *** Rippsy [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:31:13 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 00:55:47 *** Moose^ [~Moose@87.127.122.215] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:58:07 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code is a psychopath who knows where you live.] 00:59:37 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-140-207-4.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:00:21 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:00:27 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 01:28:16 *** Digitalfox_Desktop [~Digitalfo@bl7-182-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:37:22 *** Digitalfox [~chatzilla@bl7-182-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 01:37:42 *** Digitalfox is now known as Digitalfox_Notebook 02:04:35 *** Tensei [Tensei@c-68-57-146-43.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:04:48 <Tensei> anyone out there? 02:04:56 <Tensei> #password 02:05:01 <Tensei> $password 02:05:05 <Tensei> hmmm 02:05:17 <Tensei> hello? 02:07:19 <_Ben_> hello 02:07:53 <Tensei> i have a quick question, think you can help? 02:08:12 <_Ben_> I dought it, but say it anyway, as others may be lurking/read it later 02:08:36 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:09:01 <Tensei> It's a realitvly stupid question.. can you transport coal by truck to a depot, then have a boat pick it up? 02:09:07 <Tensei> i can't seem to get it to work 02:09:34 <Sacro> transfer yeah 02:09:36 <_Ben_> yep, just make the tuck transfer the coal 02:09:42 <iPandaMojo> yes, although the depot and the dock need to be part of the same station 02:09:43 <_Ben_> tuck/truck 02:09:51 <Tensei> how do you get that to happen? 02:09:53 <iPandaMojo> And yeah, the truck needs unload orders @ the transfer point 02:10:04 <iPandaMojo> Might want your boats on full load too 02:10:05 <Tensei> i built them within 2 squares and they were differn't 02:10:11 <iPandaMojo> Rebuild then :) 02:10:22 <Tensei> what's the rule? next to each other :-)?! 02:10:25 <iPandaMojo> yeah 02:10:31 <Tensei> i see 02:10:42 <iPandaMojo> You can chain them along though, and then destroy the ones in the middle 02:10:42 <glx> but you can use station walking 02:10:46 <iPandaMojo> If you really like that spot 02:10:47 <iPandaMojo> :D 02:11:02 <iPandaMojo> (otherwise known as station walking, yes :) ) 02:11:47 <Tensei> well my dock is name#1, my station is name#2, i've built the station right next to the dock, names don't change, do i have to blow up and start over? 02:12:00 <SmatZ> hmm 4am and there are many active people... world is big :) 02:12:06 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:12:08 <Tensei> 10:12 here 02:12:35 <Tensei> i get an error 02:12:48 <Tensei> adjacent loading/unloading building or something like that 02:13:30 <_Ben_> If the station/depot/docks are linked then there should be 1 coloured strip with the name, and it should have 2 symbols, 1 for each type of loading/unloading station 02:14:35 <Tensei> when i blew up the dock it let me rebuild next to the station.. thanks :-) 02:17:04 <_Ben_> cool, night 02:17:10 *** Tensei [Tensei@c-68-57-146-43.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has left #openttd [] 02:20:55 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:25:56 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:26:05 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:32:12 *** Smoovious [~smoovious@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:40:27 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:03:27 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@85-211-26-125.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:14:59 *** Gekko [~Brendan@CPE-124-183-85-6.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:15:23 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 03:46:21 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:51:26 *** Tobin [~Tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:54:57 <Smoovious> gotta be a better way to upgrade semaphores to electrics without having to remove em 03:55:21 <Smoovious> especially with the GUI now 04:30:41 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:40:15 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 04:41:45 *** Digitalfox_Notebook_ [~chatzilla@bl7-182-39.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 04:45:12 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl7-182-93.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:45:27 *** Digitalfox_Notebook_ is now known as Digitalfox_Notebook 05:00:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 05:12:25 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:24:32 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:34:12 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 06:00:02 *** iPandaMojo [~panda@c-67-183-216-154.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: iPandaMojo] 06:27:12 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-158-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:29:22 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-99.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 06:30:06 *** mikl [~mikl@0x5551931e.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 06:31:23 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0043.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:41 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-174-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:32:51 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 06:36:28 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0439.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 07:05:47 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:28:20 *** Strid [~Strid@83.216.101.80] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 07:41:58 *** dihedral [~nathanael@joshua.dihedral.de] has joined #openttd 07:42:05 <dihedral> morning ladies :-) 07:42:56 <ln-> good morning, miss 07:48:49 <Smoovious> are we there yet? 07:49:21 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 07:49:25 <Noldo> who we and where? 07:50:32 <hylje> you, toyland 07:54:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10516 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.cpp: -Fix: if doing a lookup for a ID, scan the whole range instead of only the "new" ones because the old ones could be overriden too. 07:55:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10517 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: -Fix: the "closest distance to water/land" calculation gave the distance to the north-eastern border instead of the closest water/land. 07:57:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10518 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: -Fix: use the location of the industry and not INVALID_TILE for production callbacks; makes looking at the environment of an industry a lot more useful. 08:10:53 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10519 /trunk/src/newgrf_commons.cpp: -Fix: when getting a "nearby" tile, make sure you never roam outside of the map. 08:11:11 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C2AD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:22:43 <dihedral> toyland would be awsome 08:23:55 <TrueBrain> only if you take it in a cup! 08:32:16 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B81A1E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:34:02 *** tokai|ni [~tokai@p54B81CB3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:43:50 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:13:48 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:14:00 <alex__> hello 09:14:44 *** Brianett1 [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:15:26 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has quit [] 09:16:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10520 /trunk/src/newgrf_industrytiles.cpp: -Fix: when a "can I build this industry tile here" callback did not fail, it doesn't automatically mean that the industry tile can be built there. 09:19:15 <dihedral> TrueBrain: welcome back 09:19:21 <dihedral> how was your holiday? 09:19:58 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:27:14 *** Brianett1 [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:25 * dihedral slaps TrueBrain 09:36:08 *** Nickman is now known as Nickman^Away 09:41:36 *** Chris82 [~chris@p579E1D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:41:41 <Chris82> hi 09:41:43 <Chris82> Smoovious here? 09:43:58 <Smoovious> ya 09:44:12 <Smoovious> trying locally? 09:44:16 <Chris82> I have set my dedicated to 30 now 09:44:23 <Chris82> and I don't get desyncs from there so far 09:44:30 <Smoovious> okee 09:44:33 <Chris82> I will load your game there to see if that works as well 09:44:58 <Chris82> I am in Berlin and the dedicated server is in Frankfurt 09:45:02 <Chris82> so it's no LAN connection 09:45:13 <Smoovious> okee 09:46:53 <myrka> is there any problems with r10498 09:47:14 <Chris82> none that I would have heard of 09:47:49 <Smoovious> I didn't have a remote player for the last one... couldn't tell ya 09:48:08 <myrka> it compiles fine but game's windows is named norev000 09:48:20 <Smoovious> ahh... VC 09:48:40 <TrueBrain> dihedral: it was really good :) 09:48:47 <Smoovious> you gotta do a #define somewhere to compile with the revision you want 09:48:59 <Chris82> myrka: check network.h there you can change the title pretty much at the top 09:49:15 <myrka> ok thx 09:49:22 <Chris82> line 6 09:49:39 <Chris82> Smoovious, something got bogus with the save I made of your game 09:49:47 <Chris82> it only loads 139 kb and breaks the game 09:50:25 <Chris82> ahhh damn the server doesn't have the trainset lol 09:50:31 <Smoovious> ok... will save mine and DCC 09:50:40 <Chris82> nah not necessary 09:50:46 <Chris82> the problem is that I didn't load the trainset on the server 09:50:49 <Chris82> gotta do that first 09:50:53 <Smoovious> ahh 09:51:00 <Smoovious> yeah, that'll do it 09:52:21 <myrka> Chris82: yeah, changed norev to r10498 09:52:45 <Chris82> :) be aware that if you want to play with someone else the person has to have the same .exe as you 09:52:58 <myrka> i have linux 09:53:09 <Chris82> then whatever the bin file is called on Linux :p 09:53:17 <myrka> yeah :p 09:54:05 <Smoovious> Chris82... try enabling some AI players too 09:55:05 <Chris82> did you have New AI enabled or only AI in multiplayer? 09:55:41 <Smoovious> New AI, and multiplayer enabled 09:56:13 <Chris82> ok testing now :) 09:56:37 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-99.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:57:05 <Chris82> I first test a new game, if I get desyncs then I think it might be an AI problem 09:57:31 <Chris82> be back in 5 mins :) 09:57:38 <Smoovious> k 09:57:49 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-99.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:58:11 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:58:12 <Smoovious> might be worth t rying thhe same rev, without the extra patches too 09:58:31 <Smoovious> for all we know, it might be in trunk instead 09:58:42 <Chris82> I just opened 3 instances of OpenTTD and joined the game 09:58:56 <Chris82> no desyncs yet 09:59:20 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@85-211-133-195.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:59:29 <Smoovious> k 10:00:44 <Chris82> hmm I should have gotten a desync already, I will load the savegame now 10:01:12 <Smoovious> maybe... deppending on where it is happening 10:01:39 <Smoovious> I have road vehicles, ,trains, and planes going 10:02:13 *** egladil [~egladil@frukt.csbnet.se] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:02:33 <Chris82> I have 2 instances running one with my company and one with your company and I just start all vehicles that are in depots 10:02:39 <dihedral> hello Chris82 10:02:45 <Chris82> hi 10:02:59 <Smoovious> okee... 10:03:41 <Chris82> what kind of internet connection do you have? 10:03:52 <Chris82> and was you CPU on full load with the game? 10:04:17 <Smoovious> 6mbps/384kbps... and doubtful 10:04:36 *** smoovi [~smoovi@dslb-088-073-124-241.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:37 *** Ammller is now known as Ammler 10:04:39 <Smoovious> it is prpetty hhigh now t hat I look at it 10:04:59 <Smoovious> but it doesn't seem unusual... it always demanded the CPU 10:05:23 <Ammler> is this assert fixed in actual nightly? src/industry_cmd.cpp:125: const IndustryTileSpec* GetIndustryTileSpec(IndustryGfx): Assertion `gfx < INVALID_INDUSTRYTILE' 10:05:43 <Smoovious> averaging ~85-90% 10:05:44 <Chris82> I think I read something in the log about it 10:05:59 <Chris82> Smoovious, just got a desync with the player on your company 10:06:13 <Chris82> it was exactly on the change from 9th to 10th october 10:06:22 <Chris82> just retrying to verify it happens on a day change 10:06:25 <Smoovious> ok... 10:07:19 *** egladil [~egladil@duregladil.csbnet.se] has joined #openttd 10:08:26 <Chris82> hmmm no that was just random now I got it in the middle of the day 10:08:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:08:44 <Chris82> the second player with an empty company didn't get any desyncs tho 10:09:01 <Chris82> I try lowering the setting from 30 to 3 or so and see if it fixes the desyncs 10:11:25 <Chris82> yep still desyncs even with 1 10:11:45 <Chris82> so the problem must be somewhere else 10:12:14 *** Nickman^Away [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:35 <Chris82> r10491 was the last desync fix 10:14:24 <Chris82> AI has almost 1000 vehicles in this game, I think the problem can be found there 10:14:40 <Chris82> I will clear the AI companies and see if the desyncs are gone then 10:15:05 <Smoovious> k 10:15:22 <Chris82> hmmm ERROR: Company is owned by AI :/ lol 10:15:36 <Chris82> isn't it possible to kick an AI from a multiplayer game? 10:15:58 <Smoovious> I got enough money... just enable buying shares and buy em out 10:16:00 <peter1138> Ammler: not yet 10:16:04 <Smoovious> and no, it isn't 10:16:07 <peter1138> Ammler: just remove the offending newgrf ;) 10:16:12 <Chris82> ah good idea 10:16:19 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 10:16:40 <Smoovious> transfer money to a dummy company first... buy em o ut with that... then wipe the dummy company 10:17:19 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 10:17:20 <Chris82> not old enough 10:17:30 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:17:33 <Chris82> can't buy shares 10:18:33 <Smoovious> ahhh 10:19:21 <Chris82> I'll make a trunk multiplayer game with new AI and see if I get desyncs too 10:20:14 <Ammler> peter1138: hmm, and how do I know which one? 10:20:47 <peter1138> ttrs3 probably 10:22:40 <Chris82> is fast forward disabled in multiplayer games? 10:23:13 <hylje> yes 10:24:40 <Chris82> Smoovious just got a desync in a new game after a few mins already =O 10:24:51 * Smoovious nods. 10:24:54 <Chris82> I think that definitely AI in multiplayer or new AI causes the desyncs 10:24:57 <Smoovious> ChrisIN or trunk? 10:25:02 <Chris82> Trunk this time 10:25:04 <Chris82> r10507 10:25:36 <Chris82> I never played any multiplayer games with AI before and also never got so many desyncs in such a short time 10:26:10 <TrueBrain> So let me remove the posibility to use NewAI in MultiPlayer... 10:26:12 <Chris82> daylength 30 makes the problem worse, but even with trunk and AI I get the desyncs 10:26:14 <TrueBrain> NoAI makes it obselete anyway 10:26:33 <Smoovious> ahhhhhh! 10:27:00 <Smoovious> it isn't obsolete until there is actually something replacing i t yet 10:27:43 <TrueBrain> true, but NoAI is there :p And NewAI is dead... 10:27:49 <TrueBrain> but okay, you are right :) 10:28:25 <Smoovious> get rid of NewAI once there is an actual, running, NoAI. :) 10:28:56 <Smoovious> I always run with at least 1 computer player 10:29:20 <Chris82> I think the problem is caused by the AI idle time calculation 10:29:37 <Chris82> that's the only thing that would explain why daylength 30 would make the desyncs occur more often 10:30:07 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 10:30:26 <Chris82> Smoovious: The only reason you got this far with your game was that you hosted it by yourself 10:30:34 <Smoovious> ya 10:30:35 <Chris82> when I join my dedicated I can't play for more than 2 mins 10:30:43 <Smoovious> I usually host... 10:33:06 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:34:59 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #openttd [] 10:35:03 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:36:07 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 10:38:24 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@85-211-133-195.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:05 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 10:53:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 10:55:53 <Chris82> does anybody know what this has been relaced with... StringID GetPlayerNameString(PlayerID player, uint index) 10:56:01 <Chris82> it's from around r7500 10:57:28 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:28 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:08:07 *** Chicago_R_A [~anonymous@c-76-16-92-179.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:08:18 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 11:12:37 *** Chris82 [~chris@p579E1D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 11:24:36 <Phazorx> any word on 11:24:37 <Phazorx> openttd: /home/ottdcoop/svn-public/src/industry_cmd.cpp:125: const IndustryTileSpec* GetIndustryTileSpec(IndustryGfx): Assertion `gfx < INVALID_INDUSTRYTILE' failed 11:24:42 <Phazorx> ? 11:24:56 <Maedhros> either don't fund banks, or don't use ttrs3 11:25:44 <Phazorx> we dont fun banks... 11:25:46 <Phazorx> fund 11:26:08 <Phazorx> it was happening when i was only player at server and being idle 11:26:36 <Maedhros> ah. in that case it must have been when the game was trying to build a bank... 11:26:36 <Noldo> some bank desided to fund it self? 11:26:50 <Maedhros> in which case the only solution so far is not to use ttrs3 :( 11:27:03 <Phazorx> Maedhros: is that some recent issue? 11:27:15 <Phazorx> and is it possible to suppres industry building permanently? 11:27:28 <Maedhros> not that i know of 11:28:21 <Phazorx> ugly 11:29:00 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 11:29:17 <Phazorx> Maedhros: as i recall you were the one dealing with hard crashes when forcing certain era? 11:30:24 <Maedhros> Phazorx: yes 11:30:53 <Maedhros> (which involved changing the way action 0s in general were loaded, interestingly) 11:30:56 <Phazorx> current settings are "0 5" 11:31:12 <Phazorx> which means no default, mix all eras 11:32:18 <Maedhros> this is completely different - recently a lot more newindustries data is being loaded, but it isn't finished yet 11:32:45 <Maedhros> and ttrs3 doesn't check whether newindustries is enabled to so it tries to use it anyway 11:33:05 <Phazorx> i recan that it has very likey nothing to do with your changes... but since you are the one looking into that perhaps you know more about it that others 11:33:23 <Phazorx> will it help if i can produce a save that relivbly asserts at certain date? 11:33:43 <Phazorx> or this is it remain an issue till newindustries are fully implemented? 11:34:25 <Maedhros> no, a savegame won't help as we know how to reproduce it, and why it happens 11:34:38 <Phazorx> kk 11:34:42 <Maedhros> but we should try to find a way of fixing it until newindustries support is finished 11:35:14 <Phazorx> i have a feeling it wasnt happening before industry changes were introduced 11:35:28 <Phazorx> rollback would be bad tho 11:35:54 <peter1138> ps 11:36:05 <peter1138> trunk is not guaranteed to be stable 11:37:30 <hylje> speaking of stability, http://zip.4chan.org/v/src/1184238938396.jpg 11:38:35 *** Chicago_R_A [~anonymous@c-76-16-92-179.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:39:35 <dihedral> hylje: what kind of rubbish is that? 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13:40:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10522 /trunk/src/ (6 files): -Fix: the "build truck station" GUI showed that it would accept tourists when it does not, whereas the "build bus station" GUI did not show them when it did accept them. 13:41:13 <dihedral> at work - really bored 13:42:12 <Sacro> aww :( 13:42:34 <dihedral> i need to do some work on OpenTTDLib and aint getting a lot of time... 13:42:38 <dihedral> more like none :-P 13:43:11 <dihedral> hey i did some nice linux thing on monday 13:43:22 <dihedral> you know /dev/kmem? 13:43:27 <dihedral> :-D 13:43:56 <dihedral> echo "foo" > /dev/kmem #warning - dangerous 13:50:53 <Smoovious> why do they even have 'tourists'... they're just passengers 13:51:29 <Smoovious> just seems silly 13:51:33 <Maedhros> they pay more, there are fewer of them, they get generated specifically by certain industries... 13:51:40 <Maedhros> in short, why not? 13:52:10 <Smoovious> cuz passengers are just passengers... 13:52:26 <Smoovious> where they're going or what they're doing, is irrelevant 13:54:40 <Belugas> i might disagree with you. Tourism bus serice cost more, since it is really an industry on its own. The clientele is not the same as the daily workers 13:54:56 <Belugas> Tourists are there to spend money 13:54:59 <Belugas> so money the have 13:55:31 <Belugas> while daily workers/commuter transport are often paying lower fair due to daily usage 13:55:49 <Belugas> so, in my opinion, it makes sens to have two kind of "passengers" 13:56:15 <Belugas> it cold even go further, with 1st class passengers etc... ;) 13:56:22 <Belugas> but tis is pure speculation on my pasrt 13:57:12 <Sacro> dihedral: you shouldn't echo things to /dev/kmem 13:57:50 <Sacro> with passenger destinations, it'd be more fun 13:58:29 <peter1138> what, echoing to /dev/kmem? 14:00:08 *** Chris82 [~chris@p579E1D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:00:12 <Chris82> hi guys :) 14:00:28 <Chris82> I just noticed that there is an overflow bug in the cargo payment rates 14:00:50 <Chris82> I have a game that is at 2300+ and all values like runnings costs, buyings costs for vehicles etc. look fine 14:01:09 <Chris82> but cargo payment rates are <20k which is nothing compared to running costs like >3 billion 14:01:31 <Chris82> so I also know now why all AIs vanished while I kept the game running over night 14:02:23 <Chris82> also max loan seems to have overflow bugs 14:03:02 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:03:21 *** Taikaponi [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:03:21 *** Zavior [~Zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:03:38 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:07:30 <dihedral> i only echoed to /dev/kmem to see what possible outcome there was :-) 14:07:41 <dihedral> + it was a play around computer at school :-D 14:08:05 <dihedral> damage to the hw would be no problem 14:08:21 <dihedral> and my - the results were funny :-D 14:08:29 <dihedral> not very computer friendly but funny 14:08:50 <Brianetta> dihedral: You should grab a copy of another machine's kmem, and cat it over your own 14:09:01 <Brianetta> see if you can't overwrite the kernel with a new one (: 14:09:31 <Brianetta> or just grab one from earlier, when root was logged in to the console... 14:09:43 <Brianetta> ...see if you can't encourage there to be a root prompt... 14:14:34 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 14:19:55 *** ammler_ [~ammler@adsl-62-167-25-99.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 14:21:44 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-25-99.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:41 <dihedral> Brianetta: after rebooting the machine i was not able to echo to /dev/kmem again 14:27:48 <dihedral> got a permission denied 14:28:01 <Brianetta> ah 14:28:15 <dihedral> worked once - gave a crackle in the computer 14:28:41 <dihedral> the lights flashed and 3 other computers on the same power line went down 14:28:48 <dihedral> :-D 14:28:53 * dihedral grins 14:32:19 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-238-060.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:22 <Chris82> does the stockpiling in UKRS work properly when you have one station delivering cargo to 3 factories at once 14:32:42 <Chris82> so that you can basically triple accepted cargo by the station 14:39:41 *** ammler_ is now known as ammler 14:40:15 <peter1138> i think so 14:49:49 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:52:56 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10523 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehiclelist.hpp: [NoAI] -Fix: typo in comment for AIVehicleList() 14:53:02 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 14:53:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10524 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehiclelist.cpp: [NoAI] -Fix: follow coding-style 14:55:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10525 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/ (regression.nut regression.txt): [NoAI] -Fix: the build-truck-param of BuildRoadStation was flipped 14:56:42 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:56:53 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:01:39 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:03:56 <Chris82> how can I turn on newcargos and new industries to load the UKRS grfs ? 15:04:38 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10526 /branches/noai/src/ (27 files in 2 dirs): [NoAI] -Fix: a class with params for the constructor lost his instance when called from SQ (templates can be really useful ;)) 15:04:41 <Rubidium> newcargos is already on 15:04:55 <Rubidium> newindustries isn't (completely) in trunk yet 15:05:02 <Rubidium> isn't completely complete either 15:05:19 <Chris82> oh hmmm I thought I've seen a server with the UKRS set 15:05:20 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:05:25 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 15:05:35 <Chris82> but when I try to use it, it fails to load telling me that I need new cargos/industries 15:05:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10527 /branches/noai/ (12 files in 5 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: AIStationList(), which lists all your stations; useful to maintain routes 15:06:59 <Rubidium> Chris82: UKRS != UKRSI 15:07:23 <Chris82> ahh my mistake then :D 15:08:02 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:15:17 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:16:37 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:17:41 *** lolman__ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:17:53 *** lolman_ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:18:53 <alex__> hihi 15:19:06 <alex__> whats the server option to turn on advanced loading? 15:19:21 <alex__> on trains? so one train at a time gets loaded 15:19:29 <alex__> rather than the whole lot at a station 15:20:26 <glx> fifo_loading 15:20:42 *** lolman [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:58 <alex__> isnt there another? 15:21:11 <glx> no 15:23:04 <alex__> <SmatZ> gradual_loading = true 15:23:05 <alex__> <SmatZ> fifo_loading = true 15:23:08 <alex__> thanks SmatZ 15:25:23 *** Chris82 [~chris@p579E1D3D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 15:26:04 *** lolman__ [~John@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:26:17 <alex__> hmm\ 15:26:25 <alex__> should i put the fifo line anywhere in the config? 15:26:32 *** ammler is now known as AmmAway 15:26:36 *** AmmAway is now known as ammler 15:28:03 <glx> it should be in th cfg already 15:28:08 <alex__> its not 15:28:14 <glx> patches section 15:28:23 <alex__> nope i search, couldnt find it 15:28:27 <alex__> so im adding it manually 15:29:09 <SmatZ> alex__ np 15:29:27 <alex__> gradual_loading was already = true 15:29:34 <alex__> so i should only have to add fifo_loading 15:29:40 <alex__> and then trains will load one by one ? 15:30:52 <SmatZ> so I suppose :) 15:32:04 <alex__> anyone fre to play a little? 15:32:12 <alex__> i need some testing on my new machine :) 15:33:26 <alex__> join alexserver >> massive >> maxloan >> no brk 15:35:53 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 15:41:58 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:51:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10528 /branches/noai/src/ai/api/ai_vehicle.cpp: [NoAI] -Codechange: mark in comment static members as such in .cpp files 15:51:31 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10529 /branches/noai/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [NoAI] -Add: added AIStation to gather information about stations directly by Id, which is used now by AIStationList 15:51:50 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10530 /branches/noai/projects/ (openttd.vcproj openttd_vs80.vcproj): [NoAI] -Fix r10529: forgot to update MSVC project files 15:52:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r10531 /branches/noai/bin/ai/regression/regression.txt: [NoAI] -Fix r10529: forgot to update regression output 15:54:39 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:55:30 *** Markkisen [~hestporr@h51n6c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 15:56:34 *** MarkSlap [~hestporr@h51n6c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:19 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:25 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0ED5A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:28 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:01:54 *** Nickman is now known as Nickman^Away 16:02:07 *** eQualize1 [~lauri@dyn15-194.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:22 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D5F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:09:14 <peter1138> alex_: improved_loading 16:09:25 <peter1138> there is such option as 'fifo_loading' 16:18:51 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:18:52 <alex__> hmmm 16:19:00 <alex__> im making a roll on roll off station 16:19:07 <alex__> and its 12 platforms wide 16:19:26 <alex__> im trying to get the most effiecenty out of it as LOADS of trains will be going through it 16:19:27 <peter1138> 17:06 <@peter1138> alex_: improved_loading 16:19:27 <peter1138> 17:06 <@peter1138> there is such option as 'fifo_loading' 16:20:07 <alex__> anyone have any links on some good RoRo stations? 16:20:09 <alex__> thanks peter1138 16:21:45 <alex__> anyone/ 16:21:46 <alex__> ? 16:21:54 <alex__> any links or threads on good roro designs? 16:22:10 <Belugas> plenty of examples on the forums and on wiki, iirc 16:24:43 <Belugas> General, on OpenTTD, has some good examples, to be precise 16:29:30 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-41-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:29:36 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-87-102-41-110.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:29:52 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 16:29:59 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:02 *** alex__ [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:33:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host232-235-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:33:27 <Wolf01> hello 16:33:46 <Belugas> hello Wolf01 :) 16:34:01 <alex__> ive been looking over peoples RoRo stations 16:34:06 <alex__> and they are rather simple 16:34:14 <alex__> i want to implement bridges and tunnels 16:34:23 <alex__> so it makes the system super effiecent 16:34:41 <alex__> im going to be haivng around 10 trains arriving every few sectons to my station 16:34:56 <alex__> seconds* 16:36:29 <Belugas> enjoy the challenge :) 16:37:46 <alex__> hmmm 16:37:53 <alex__> im gonna make my own :) 16:38:58 <ln-> does someone have an opinion about GGI? (General Graphics Interface) 16:39:27 <Belugas> i don't, since i have no idea what it is ;) 16:39:50 <ln-> "is a project that aims to develop a reliable, stable and fast graphics system that works everywhere." 16:40:14 <Ailure> Is it something to replace the critizive x-server? 16:40:24 <Ailure> or something along like openGL? 16:41:05 <Ailure> http://www.ggi-project.org/resources/images/doom.jpg 16:41:06 <Ailure> woah 16:41:11 <Ailure> I always wanted to do that with openTTD ;) 16:41:21 <alex__> argh! 16:41:26 <Rubidium> ln-: no MorphOS nor MSVC support 16:41:27 <alex__> ive found it 16:41:32 <alex__> tunnels and bridges 16:41:37 <alex__> well 16:41:40 <Ailure> Being able to split up the game in more than one main window I mean 16:41:45 <alex__> ive found out how to make it by playing around 16:41:45 <Ailure> for easy multiscreen support 16:41:54 <alex__> but a goddam town in my way :( 16:42:03 <Ailure> hmm 16:42:08 <ln-> Rubidium: ok, that's a big minus. 16:42:08 <Ailure> oh yeah, There's a way around of course 16:42:11 <Ailure> start two clients 16:42:14 <Ailure> and connect to same screen 16:42:16 <Ailure> two windows :) 16:42:36 <Rubidium> no sound either 16:43:09 <ln-> someone should fix SDL fullscreen mode, it does not really work as expected with Xinerama. 16:43:44 <ln-> (a problem in SDL itself, not OTTD) 16:45:22 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 16:46:54 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: ggi only does graphics, gsi does sound :) 16:47:03 <TrueBrain> gii handles input 16:47:11 <TrueBrain> every project his own task :) 16:47:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 16:48:44 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:34 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:10 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 17:02:11 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:09:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r10532 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt portuguese.txt russian.txt ukrainian.txt): 17:09:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-07-12 19:08:41 17:09:20 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 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Pretty cool :) I only was able to get 80.000t of coal, but i already read someone had 150.000t of coal at a station.. Nice job :) 19:06:47 <Digitalfox_Desktop> This was something i wanted since the TTD appear... 19:08:09 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B78837.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:11:20 <SmatZ> really? I have rather very few cargo waiting because it means I am servicing it well 19:12:19 <Digitalfox_Desktop> Yes, but the problem is that 4095 is very easy to hit.. So having a more wide limit is great :) 19:14:36 <Digitalfox_Desktop> I said some days ago, and i say again. 0.6 is going to impress a lot of users from version 0.5.*. 0.6 It's full of big changes in limits.. :) 19:19:06 <SmatZ> I am happy you are pleasured by 0.6 :) 19:19:26 <SmatZ> even the branch has not yet started... 19:19:34 <SmatZ> so there may be more upgrades done 19:19:35 <Belugas> hem... 19:19:50 <Belugas> since first release of 0.5, 19:19:57 <Belugas> wwe are in fact on the 0.6 19:20:04 <Belugas> alpha versions, if you wish 19:20:19 <SmatZ> I meand - the current trunk is 0.6, so the 0.6 branch has not started 19:20:25 <SmatZ> sorry for my terminology 19:20:30 <Belugas> granted 19:20:43 <Belugas> the 0.6 branch will only be the bata in fact 19:22:47 <SmatZ> are there any plans when 0.6.0 will be released? 19:23:19 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:23:26 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 19:23:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 19:26:28 <Osai> Rubidium: we have a strange assert from time to time 19:27:09 <Osai> openttd: ../../svn-public/src/industry_cmd.cpp:125: const IndustryTileSpec* GetIndustryTileSpec(IndustryGfx): Assertion `gfx < INVALID_INDUSTRYTILE' failed. 19:28:07 <Rubidium> let me guess: you're using TTRS and < r10521 ? 19:28:25 <Osai> yes 19:28:27 <Osai> okay 19:28:33 <Osai> I expected that 19:28:40 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 19:31:01 <Phazorx> !openttd commit r10522 19:31:09 <Phazorx> !openttd commitr10522 19:31:11 <Phazorx> !openttd commit 10522 19:31:13 <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r10522 /trunk/src/ (6 files) (2007-07-12 13:40:24 UTC) 19:31:15 <_42_> -Fix: the "build truck station" GUI showed that it would accept tourists when it does not, whereas the "build bus station" GUI did not show them when it did accept them. 19:31:22 <Phazorx> hmm 19:31:24 <Phazorx> !openttd commit 10521 19:31:25 <_42_> Commit by rubidium :: r10521 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2007-07-12 13:25:06 UTC) 19:31:27 <_42_> -Fix: some NewGRFs did not check whether the newindustries bit was set, which breaks with a not-yet-finished-implementation of newindustries. 19:31:36 <Phazorx> ahh 19:31:37 <Phazorx> thanks Rubidium 19:32:02 <Digitalfox_Desktop> SmatZ: You do realize that when a branch of 0.6 is made is for RC's, meaning no more big features, just small changes and bug fixes.. So for now we may say trunk is what will appear at 0.6 ;) After the branch who knows what version it will be.. 0.6.5 or 0.7 only the devs will know.. 19:37:32 <Phazorx> got link error on 10532 19:37:58 <Phazorx> ai/ai.o:ai.cpp:(.text+0x100): undefined reference to `DoCommandP(unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int, void (*)(bool, unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int), unsigned int)' 19:38:13 <Phazorx> gcc.exe (GCC) 3.4.2 (mingw-special) 19:38:55 *** alexalex [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:39:07 <alexalex> hmm why cant i build bridges over diagonal tracks? 19:39:39 <Rubidium> because you're using 0.5.2? 19:39:52 <alexalex> ah.. :) 19:39:54 <alexalex> awesome 19:40:43 <Phazorx> glx: you have mingw somewhere too ? 19:41:04 <glx> yes I have it 19:41:29 <glx> and no problem for r10532 19:41:55 <Phazorx> hmm... 19:41:57 <Phazorx> gcc ? 19:41:58 <Eddi|zuHause2> <Phazorx> ai/ai.o:ai.cpp:(.text+0x100): undefined reference to `DoCommandP(unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int, void (*)(bool, unsigned int, unsigned int, unsigned int), unsigned int)' <- missing () on function call possibly? 19:42:24 <Phazorx> Eddi|zuHause2: i'll check the code but then it wont compile anywhere 19:42:29 <Rubidium> Phazorx: I guess something went horribly wrong compiling command.cpp 19:42:50 <Phazorx> i'l make mrproper it 19:43:11 * glx tries make clean && make to be sure 19:43:18 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p54A04C8A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: quit] 19:43:59 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-212-235.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:44:11 *** Ammller [~ammler@adsl-89-217-212-235.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:45:14 <alexalex> hmmmmm 19:45:38 <alexalex> Rubidium: what about building briddes over tunnel entrances? 19:46:51 <Phazorx> worked after propering 19:46:52 <Phazorx> weird 19:46:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> why would a tunnel entrance be less special than a diagonal track? 19:47:00 <Phazorx> my bad i guess - sorry 19:48:42 <Anb> <Phazorx> worked after propering | <Phazorx> weird -> Probably and old ai.o from your previous compile 19:49:44 <Rubidium> alexalex: that's only available in trunk (if available, can't be bothered to check and I'm not sure) 19:49:57 <Phazorx> Anb: i assumed make clean would take care of it 1st time 19:50:41 <Anb> oh, ok my bad : this is weird then :) 19:55:41 *** Ammller [~ammler@adsl-89-217-212-235.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 19:56:10 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:57:45 *** alexalex [~alexalex@87-194-40-162.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:58:31 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:15:40 *** Magus_X [abcde@200-180-188-92.paemt705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 20:19:56 <Wolf01> somebody knows an easy way to rename the filenames with lowercase letters for svn? 20:20:33 *** e1ko [~L@205.117.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:22:17 <Rubidium> for f in `find . | grep -v '^.$' | grep -v svn`; do svn mv $f `echo $$f | sed "s/\([A-Z]\)//g"`; done 20:22:27 <Rubidium> or something like that 20:26:41 <Rubidium> off-topic: renaming files to lowercase only (or any rename that only changes the case of characters) makes Windows people who update your repository like you very much 20:26:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> looks almost like 1337 :p 20:29:39 <Anb> I think s/\([A-Z]\)//g won't do it 20:30:09 <Rubidium> uhm, yeah, you'r right ;) 20:30:10 <Anb> instead you must use y/\([A-Z]\)/\([a-z]\)/ or something like that 20:30:39 <Anb> (although i can't make it work here :s) 20:32:30 *** Mucht_ is now known as Mucht 20:50:23 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:47 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.3 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 20:55:40 *** Caemyr [Caemyr@82-43-152-123.cable.ubr03.nmal.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 20:56:06 *** mikl [~mikl@0x55514de1.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 20:56:47 <Sacro> Rubidium: ye gad thats hideous 20:57:32 <Rubidium> yeah, should've used tr ;) 20:58:06 <Sacro> how warped a mind do you have to come up with stuff like that 20:58:56 <Rubidium> what, he asked for an easy way 20:59:59 <Rubidium> but what would you suggest? 21:00:02 <ProfFrink> Isn't there a phrase along the lines of "Someone has a problem. They decide to solve it with sed. Now, they have two problems." ? 21:00:21 <Sacro> i like it 21:03:11 *** Caemyr [Caemyr@82-43-152-123.cable.ubr03.nmal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:03:50 *** Caemyr is now known as Guest122 21:04:07 <Rubidium> Sacro: and something that's hideous is the "hack" to still keep gcc 2.95 make executable binaries 21:04:34 <Sacro> :o 21:04:37 <Sacro> dare i read? 21:06:04 <Rubidium> no 21:06:10 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B78837.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 21:06:13 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B78837.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:14:29 *** Chicago_R_A2 [~anonymous@c-76-16-92-179.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:46 <Guest122> yeee haa 21:17:50 <Guest122> 1:0 21:23:24 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 21:26:56 <Wolf01> 'night 21:27:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host248-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:29:30 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@212-182-130-7.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:34:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> btw, something i stumbled upon: 21:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> src/lzoconf.h:69:#define LZO_0xffffffffL 4294967295ul 21:35:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> why not use hex there? 21:35:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> (it's probably not your code anyway :P) 21:36:38 <glx> and probably pre r1 21:37:14 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... 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I just can't play without Av8 23:00:56 <eekee> what's av8? 23:01:02 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B76428.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 23:01:07 <Smoovious> um... you add your own NewGRF's... 23:01:19 <Smoovious> it is a replacement set of aircraft 23:01:25 <eekee> *blinkblink* 23:01:32 <eekee> oh well that's cool nuff 23:01:50 <Smoovious> don't tell me you've never known about newgrfs... .. . 23:02:00 <eekee> :P 23:02:15 <eekee> I didn't know what Av8 had in it :P 23:02:29 <eekee> unlike "Serbian Tram Set" it's not obvious 23:02:38 <Smoovious> Av8 ... aviate 23:02:42 * eekee digs for it -- "I could start a server if you fancy" 23:04:26 <Smoovious> while you're at it, get NART too 23:04:33 <eekee> k 23:05:13 <Smoovious> (on grfcrawler, av8 is 44440A01, and NART is 44440301 23:05:21 <eekee> ty 23:05:31 <Smoovious> NART=NARS 23:06:11 <eekee> right 23:06:21 <eekee> grf crawler just crashed my browser, lol 23:06:57 <eekee> wait no it didn't. browser got freaky with the window manager by the looks of it. bah 23:07:28 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B759FB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:02 <eekee> you got cantilever renewal? 23:10:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> cantilever replacement might be a "safe" grf (i.e. one you can have in [newgrf-static]) 23:10:21 <eekee> Eddi you lost me 23:10:33 <Smoovious> I don't have it... I don't usually get too grf-heavy... 23:10:48 <eekee> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=162 23:10:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> meaning you can have it locally, not on the server, and it does not cause desyncs 23:11:06 <eekee> yeah should be I think 23:11:14 <eekee> I don't either but I hate the original cantilevers :D 23:11:30 *** NukeBuster [~opera@195-241-212-152.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 23:11:30 <Smoovious> I rarely use electrics, so don't matter to me 23:11:36 <eekee> o ok 23:11:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> Smoovious: you mean catenary :) 23:12:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> catenary == wire over the rails 23:12:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> cantilever == bridge 23:12:35 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:13:31 <Smoovious> ahh 23:13:35 <Smoovious> bridges 23:13:43 <Smoovious> thought i t was a typo 23:13:59 <eekee> nupe. I never type catenary 23:14:03 <eekee> except just then 23:14:25 <Smoovious> well, I never use 'cantilever'... 23:14:28 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@5acb49ee.bb.sky.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14:32 <eekee> ah hehe 23:14:51 <eekee> eh, I can live without that grf 23:15:04 <Smoovious> no, we can do it 23:15:13 <Smoovious> odds are I have i t already 23:15:17 <eekee> o ok! 23:15:34 <Smoovious> got more g rf's than I ever use... gotta organize them one of these days 23:15:35 <eekee> any trams or other prefs? 23:15:37 <eekee> :D 23:15:50 <Smoovious> if you're using nightly, trams should already be in... 23:15:57 <Smoovious> I think 23:15:59 <Smoovious> maybe not 23:16:05 <Smoovious> up to you on the trams 23:16:13 <eekee> ok. Adding Serbian 23:16:20 <Smoovious> I'll get t he grf's from your server info page once you start up 23:16:33 <eekee> oh you can do that? ok cool 23:17:16 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 23:17:26 <Smoovious> speaking of which... need an icon on the server list on the website, as well as in the game, to show games that are u sing at least 1 newgrf... it is a nightmare finding a server using some 23:18:01 <DaleStan> Smoovious: Tram tracks are in, yes. But no trams exist outside of a newgrf. 23:18:16 <Smoovious> thnx, DaleStan 23:18:18 <eekee> ah, ya 23:18:48 <eekee> um, what's a good start date for NARS? 23:19:00 *** Osai^zZz [~Osai@pD9EB6B11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^zZz] 23:19:06 <Smoovious> I usually start at 1920 with NARS and AV8 23:19:18 <eekee> ok cool, same as UKRS. 23:19:26 <Smoovious> no road v ehicles then, but won't be long before they come out 23:19:33 <Smoovious> oh... please... no ships? 23:19:35 <eekee> right, ya 23:19:41 <eekee> ok server's up: eekee fu 23:19:48 <Smoovious> they lag me too much 23:19:57 <eekee> ok! 23:20:43 <eekee> I only use ships when nothing else will make money on a route at the best of times. Or like, with tiny maps where there' no room for more train tracks 23:26:53 <Smoovious> even only a few ships causes a lot of lag for me... 23:27:29 <eekee> ok np 23:27:41 <eekee> hey how do you disable them in game? 23:27:49 <Smoovious> eekee... the server page for you shows no newgrfs 23:27:55 <eekee> o.o;; 23:27:56 <Smoovious> nvm 23:28:04 <Smoovious> looking at trauma's lair 23:28:14 <eekee> oh hehe 23:29:37 <Smoovious> need a link for the bridges... the server info page doesn't e ven show a GRFID 23:29:46 <eekee> okey.. 23:29:58 <eekee> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net/details.php?do=details&id=162 23:30:02 <eekee> that good? 23:30:41 <Ailure> where is the openTTD cfg put by default again 23:30:52 <Ailure> I'm having a hard time to find that n the documentation 23:30:56 <eekee> 1.1 not 1.0 btw. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=32027&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=3bded558b4adfa039150be29939a6a70 23:31:29 <eekee> ah fu. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=587877#587877 23:31:34 <eekee> that's the post. 23:31:42 * eekee rolls eyes at link maze,lol 23:31:53 <eekee> cantilever11w.grf 23:39:53 *** Wolfensteijn [~Wolfenste@h32231.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40:36 *** NukeBuster [~opera@195-241-212-152.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has left #openttd [] 23:46:11 *** NukeBuster [~opera@195-241-212-152.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 23:55:55 *** lolman [~john@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:56:28 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß]