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08:53:07 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-237-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 08:53:35 <Ammler> btw, good morning all 08:53:50 <peter1138> probably 08:54:32 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-237-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54:35 <Ammler> we will update... 09:03:38 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 09:04:12 *** G is now known as Nigel 09:09:45 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 09:12:50 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 09:15:41 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6CF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:23 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:24:17 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 09:35:55 *** NW|Aerandir [~magic.pow@h77n1-ud-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:55:53 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Quit: Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5] 10:00:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:07:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1F7C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:24:29 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10735 /branches/0.5/ (oldloader.c openttd.c): [0.5] -Fix [FS#1062]: trains being split into two pieces when loading an old savegame. 10:28:16 *** Gekko [~Brendan@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:41:59 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9580BB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:54:33 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-237-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 11:14:39 *** TheJosh [~josh@d58-104-94-162.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:14:44 <TheJosh> hey all 11:15:50 <TheJosh> hows everyone going? 11:18:01 <TheJosh> would anyone be able to help me with a tiny problem? 11:18:09 <TheJosh> http://paste.openttd.org/193 (sorry about the @@s) 11:18:59 <TheJosh> i would like each item in the array to be unique... but im not quite sure how, as you dont use new on a struct 11:21:49 <Zr40> TheJosh: place the @@ at the beginning of each line, not after the indentation 11:23:24 <TheJosh> i noticed that afterwards...sorry 11:28:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sirius-r5.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:16 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 11:28:16 <TheMask96> !logs 11:30:12 <TheJosh> Zr40: do you know how I can do this? i know it must be a very simple thing to do 11:30:27 <TheJosh> i just havent been working with c++ for very long 11:30:47 <Zr40> looks like C to me 11:31:22 <TheJosh> OpenTTD is coded in C++, but a lot of the code is still c-style 11:31:42 <Zr40> so... you got an array of a struct? 11:32:18 <TheJosh> i got it 11:32:21 <TheJosh> i think 11:32:42 <Zr40> define 'unique' 11:33:36 <Noldo> TheJosh: there's nothing stoping you from using new with struct 11:34:30 <TheJosh> ok 11:34:57 <TheJosh> so in c++, the border between a struct and a class is fuzzy? 11:35:20 <Rubidium> no, the border between struct and class is very clear 11:35:45 <TheJosh> but you can use new on both a struct and a class? 11:35:50 <Maedhros> you can use new with anything that you can use malloc with 11:35:55 <Noldo> the only difference is that the with struct te default is public and with class its pirvate 11:35:58 <Noldo> *private 11:36:13 <Rubidium> Noldo: exactly, which is a very clear border IMO 11:36:21 <Noldo> ugh 11:37:27 <TheJosh> ah ok i get it now 11:38:35 <Rubidium> though I wonder what you are trying to accomplish 11:39:17 <TheJosh> cant tell (till the patch is done) 11:39:27 <TheJosh> actually I will because its almost done 11:39:46 <Rubidium> anyway, it leaks memory like hell 11:39:46 <Noldo> :D 11:39:53 <peter1138> moo? 11:40:01 <TheJosh> what 11:40:06 <Rubidium> or rather, it doesn't at this moment, but the behaviour is totally broken 11:40:07 <TheJosh> nah im not going the new path 11:40:22 <TheJosh> ok my patch will be called "Named Shared Orders" 11:40:44 <TheJosh> with a list like the sign list 11:40:47 <Rubidium> and looking at the code I've got the idea it will leak like hell 11:41:03 <Rubidium> and it allocates way way too much memory 11:41:03 <TheJosh> im only mimicing whats already there 11:41:49 <TheJosh> i know. i was trying to think of a better way of calculating, without a full check 11:42:30 <TheJosh> i could go the last known figure, say plus somehting, but that could break bigtime 11:43:07 <Rubidium> not if you allocate more memory when you do not have enough of it 11:43:55 <TheJosh> like how Loading Indicators had a dynamic array 11:45:30 <TheJosh> whats your thoughts on the idea overall (named shared orders) 11:45:47 <Rubidium> I don't get the benefit over groups 11:46:24 <TheJosh> can you set orders to a group? 11:47:18 <Rubidium> if all vehicles in the group have the same shared order you can (just select one of the trains) 11:47:19 * peter1138 ponders lunchification 11:47:50 <TheJosh> i was thinking it could complment groups 11:48:05 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:48:51 <TheJosh> so you can have the group 'goods trains' but have the nso 'main factory to slenburg' 11:49:09 <TheJosh> rather than having hundreds of groups with 5 trains in them 11:49:47 <Rubidium> then it would probably better to make meta-groups 11:49:53 <TheJosh> i was also going to have itso you can click the 'go to' button, and then click on a group in the list and the train would join that group 11:49:55 <Rubidium> -+ goods trains 11:50:05 <TheJosh> just like if you ctrl-clicked a train 11:50:05 <Rubidium> +- main factory to X 11:50:11 <Rubidium> +- main factory to Y 11:50:17 <TheJosh> subgroups 11:50:53 <Rubidium> yes, something like that 11:50:55 <TheJosh> i only went down the shared orders path because people use shared orders anyway 11:51:17 <TheJosh> if you could just dump a name on a shared order, it saves you creating a group and assigning a group 11:51:44 <TheJosh> and plainly, at this time its still quicker and easier to set up a shared order. ctrl-click a train. faster than making groups 11:52:22 <TheJosh> groups encourage organisation. shared orders encourage geting the job done. thus groups are better for big numbers of trains and shared orders for small numbers of trains 11:52:39 <Rubidium> a lot of people do not use shared orders 11:53:00 <Noldo> and a lot of peopöe do? 11:53:21 <Rubidium> and setting up groups is not that much extra work 11:53:31 <TheJosh> i was also sort of hoping with this patch to encourage shared orders. i think people just dont know about them. i didnt know about them until i descovered them. now I use nothing else 11:53:52 <Noldo> I need new fingers :( 11:54:05 <Ammler> hmm, does trains with shared orders automatically belong to same group? 11:54:07 <TheJosh> huh? why? 11:54:13 <TheJosh> nope 11:54:29 <Ammler> but that would be cool, wouldn't? 11:54:31 <TheJosh> there is a button thats been added recently to add traisn that are shared 11:54:47 <Rubidium> Ammler: yes and no; if you add one train with shared order it is not, but it's one click away. If you clone a vehicle that is in a group, the cloned vehicle is in that group too 11:54:50 <TheJosh> but you would have do click that one each time you added a train to the shared order 11:54:59 <Rubidium> TheJosh: that button was there since the begin 11:55:10 <TheJosh> opps, didnt notice :P 11:55:11 <Ammler> Rubidium: thats good, imo 11:55:31 <TheJosh> Ammler: would you use named shared orders? 11:55:51 <Rubidium> TheJosh: and when people want to autoreplace on the shared orders? 11:56:00 <Rubidium> then you tell them to make a group and autoreplace that? 11:56:13 <Ammler> in past we named all ICE to know how much trains go from a to b 11:56:25 <Ammler> now, we can make groups 11:56:43 <Ammler> thats a lot easier 11:56:57 <TheJosh> i only started making this patch because of this game i have been playing during lunchtime at work 11:57:06 <Ammler> and if you clone a train where is already in a group, i think its fine 11:57:35 <TheJosh> and at one point, i accideently ctrl-clicked on the wrong train, and then stuffed up the order. then i did it again to another train. 11:57:40 <Ammler> TheJosh: to anwer your question, I think rather no 11:58:07 <TheJosh> and i thouht it would be cool to be able to name the group and click on it in a list instead. then i get just the right nso 11:58:24 <Ammler> but how difficult is it to give with shared order also the same group? 11:58:39 <TheJosh> ah yes, but that requires a clone, which means stopping a train 11:58:59 <Rubidium> trains need to be stopped to be cloned? 11:59:06 <Ammler> :) 11:59:10 <TheJosh> in a depo if i last remember 11:59:15 <Ammler> no 11:59:21 <TheJosh> really? 11:59:29 <Ammler> yep 11:59:30 <Rubidium> that sucks, must be doing something wrong when I cloned those running trains 11:59:33 <TheJosh> the clone train button is a 'goto depo' button 11:59:56 <Rubidium> click on depot, in the middle at the bottom 12:00:02 <Ammler> you have a clone train button in the depot window 12:00:44 <TheJosh> learn somehting new every day 12:01:19 <Ammler> Rubidium: is it needed to have different groups for trains where sharing the orders? 12:01:29 <Rubidium> no 12:02:27 <Ammler> so my idea would be: share also group when sharing orders 12:02:29 <Rubidium> groups are (currently) per vehicle, not per order 12:03:03 <Rubidium> Ammler: you can do that, but it is not necessary 12:03:26 <Ammler> but less complicated for managing 12:03:34 <Rubidium> you could for example have some tourist steam trains going between towns and maglev passenger trains with the same orders 12:03:46 <Rubidium> do you want them ALWAYS to be in the same group? 12:04:00 <Rubidium> if shared orders == same group that would be the case 12:04:05 <Ammler> I wouldnt also share the orders 12:04:06 <Rubidium> but now the choice is yours 12:04:59 <Ammler> Rubidium: yeah, its fine :) 12:06:14 <Ammler> Anyway, the group thing did make our (#openttdcoop) ICE naming thing much easier 12:06:47 <Ammler> that was a pain in past so most didn't do it right 12:07:38 <Ammler> well, most don't it right now, still. ;) 12:07:55 <Ammler> hmm, was that english? 12:07:58 <Rubidium> ban them ;) 12:08:15 <Rubidium> at least I'm sure I've never done it wrong ;) 12:08:31 <Ammler> you mean, we should ban XeryusTC? 12:08:48 <XeryusTC> huh? 12:08:55 <Ammler> :D 12:09:12 <Ammler> that was fast 12:09:27 <XeryusTC> ofcourse :P 12:09:40 <Ammler> XeryusTC: do you know our new ICE naming system? 12:09:41 <Rubidium> XeryusTC: seems you failed your OTTDcoop ICE train management exam 12:09:55 *** lolman_ [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:10:11 <XeryusTC> there are 4 different systems :P 12:10:27 <XeryusTC> and i seem to be the only one that cares about proper names :P 12:11:20 *** HMage [H@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzoNInZ2ClQ] 12:11:27 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:11:30 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:15:56 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:16:45 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [] 12:18:31 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:19:33 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:21:55 *** TheJosh [~josh@d58-104-94-162.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:22:26 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-191-198.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:26 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [] 12:22:54 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:43:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-84.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:44:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6CF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 12:49:59 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 12:50:38 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9583283.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:23 *** alex_ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 13:07:33 <alex_> is there a RSS feed of the online servers? 13:09:50 <Progman> what kind of rss should this be? 13:10:10 <Rubidium> the useless kind I guess 13:10:32 <alex_> or a XML dump i could for the 13:10:39 <alex_> http://www.openttd.org/servers.php 13:10:46 <peter1138> RSS is for 'news' aggregation 13:10:54 <peter1138> servers come and go 13:11:07 <alex_> my bad 13:11:21 <Progman> you can query the metaserver ;) 13:11:59 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9583283.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:11 <alex_> right 13:12:14 <alex_> also 13:12:19 <alex_> max_trains variable 13:12:25 <alex_> is that per user or a max server setting? 13:12:46 <peter1138> it's per user, but it's a server setting 13:13:13 <alex_> sorry i ment, its that a global server setting rather than per user 13:13:14 <alex_> thanks, 13:15:51 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9580B2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:40 *** Gekko [~Brendan@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:27:34 *** Tino|R152 [Tino@52N.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:30:04 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9580B2F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:51 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 13:33:57 *** lugo [~lugo@pD9580A87.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:36:34 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r10736 /trunk/src/ (6 files in 2 dirs): -Fix: Correct all mispellings of 'successful'. 13:36:42 <hylje> :o 13:36:44 <hylje> pedantry commit 13:37:01 <peter1138> yes 13:37:19 <Rubidium> successfulll :O 13:37:23 <peter1138> yes 13:37:36 <alex_> 2062201] Client #71 is slow, try increasing *net_frame_freq to a higher value! 13:37:39 <alex_> what does this mean? 13:37:51 <alex_> what does net_frame_freq do? 13:38:02 <peter1138> i means client #71 is slow, and you should try increasing net_frame_freq to a higher value 13:38:06 <peter1138> *it 13:38:26 <alex_> please. 13:38:54 <alex_> "slow" refers to what? 13:38:55 <alex_> latency? 13:38:59 <alex_> bandwidth? 13:39:01 <alex_> slow processor? 13:41:33 <Rubidium> I presume slow processor or it must have a latency of more than 2 seconds 13:41:51 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl7-191-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 13:42:17 <alex_> and how does increasing net_frame_freq allow laggy clients to connect? 13:42:43 <alex_> Client #71 is dropped because the client did not respond for more than 4 game-days 13:43:28 <Smoovious> generally, if net_frame_freq is too low, and 2 clients are running at significantly different speeds, say, a 733Mhz vs a 3Ghz computer..., you could end up w ith t he situation where the 733Mhz c omputer issues a command for an action it did, but the 3Ghz computer has already passed that frame and can't execute the command 13:43:29 <Rubidium> increasing net_frame_freq lowers the load at the client slightly, which may cause the client to still keep up with you 13:43:51 <Smoovious> so setting frame_freq, will add a delay or lag, for the command to be executed, so they stay in s ync 13:44:09 <Rubidium> Smoovious: that is bullshit 13:44:18 * Smoovious shrugs. 13:44:25 <Smoovious> tis the way it appears to me 13:45:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> "mis_s_pellings"? 13:46:14 <Rubidium> Smoovious: it just means that the server sends the accumulated commands (from all clients) every net_frame_freq frames 13:46:36 <Rubidium> and the clients can NEVER be a frame further than the server 13:46:43 <Rubidium> they can only be behind 13:47:06 <Rubidium> but if it shows that slow message it usually means the computer is too slow to play the game 13:47:14 <Smoovious> note I didn't specifiy which was server o r client... a nd otherwisse, the rest o f that supports m y 'delay or lag' part 13:47:19 <Rubidium> as alex_ already said the client was dropped because it was too slow 13:47:50 <Rubidium> Smoovious: the "can't execute the command" is totally crap 13:48:13 <Rubidium> commands are always send to the server and then distributed to the clients and THEN, when the server says so, executed 13:48:47 <Smoovious> well, if I find the explanation of that again, that I read which described i t that way, I'll mention it 13:50:33 <alex_> net_frame_freq increases the sync updates timer 13:50:39 <alex_> so its its like 2 atm 13:50:43 <alex_> and i set it too like 10 13:50:57 <alex_> means less load on clients, but a big burst of data from the server end? 13:51:08 <alex_> every sync cycle? 13:51:56 <Rubidium> basically 13:52:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> at values like 10 the game gets pretty unplayable, because commands get very delayed 13:52:40 <Smoovious> not that unplayable... it isn't a first-person-shooter after all 13:54:37 <Gekko[PDA]> lol 14:04:56 *** Digitalfox_Desktop [~Digitalfo@bl7-191-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:11:01 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178202075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 14:19:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A550E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:58 *** ufoun [~ty@85.207.18.146] has quit [Quit: Odjezd z 89. koleje...] 14:43:58 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:47:25 *** ufoun [~ty@85.207.18.146] has joined #openttd 14:48:35 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:53:04 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:10 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:15:42 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 15:15:52 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has joined #openttd 15:15:58 *** Sacro [~ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 15:18:50 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:35:01 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C12B.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:39:56 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C12B.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:40:28 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-165-074.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:58 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@84.13.39.133] has joined #openttd 15:43:10 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 15:43:54 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@84.13.39.133] has quit [] 15:45:56 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-117-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:08 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:52:39 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178202075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:55:06 *** marc-andre [~marc-andr@84.4.234.64] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:55:38 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@84.13.39.133] has joined #openttd 15:56:22 <AntB> hey, can you use more then one patch with BuildOTTD? 15:56:27 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:57:03 <hylje> you may need to correct conflicts 15:57:56 <AntB> ok, i was just wondering as theres only 1 box for patches 15:58:34 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A550E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:58:36 <hylje> its one off because, well, correcting conflicts is hard and error-prone 15:58:42 <hylje> or the dev was lazy 15:58:56 <AntB> lol 15:59:46 <Smoovious> plus resolving conflicts one patch at a time can already be a pain in the ass... wouldn't wanna do several at once 16:01:27 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:01:46 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 16:02:53 <AntB> ok 16:03:56 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:11:37 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 16:16:11 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 16:16:14 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 16:18:21 *** Hendikins [~wolfox@CPE-121-209-213-29.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:23:21 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-237-038.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:28:30 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host163-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:29:16 <Wolf01> hello 16:29:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:31:17 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 16:37:29 <alex_> hi 16:37:34 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@84.13.39.133] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:25 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178223159.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:42:04 *** ZSOLT21 [ZSOLT@82.78.190.117] has joined #openttd 16:42:35 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A550E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:43:34 <ZSOLT21> sombody know how or where can i download ottd 32 bites ? 16:44:56 *** Nek21_bv [ZSOLT@82.78.190.117] has joined #openttd 16:45:10 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 16:45:39 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-152-108.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 16:45:46 *** ZSOLT21 [ZSOLT@82.78.190.117] has left #openttd [] 16:45:57 <Nek21_bv> sombody know how or where can i download ottd 32 bites ? 16:46:14 <Noldo> what? 16:46:15 <peter1138> Try http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php 16:46:24 <peter1138> assuming you are talking about 32bpp graphics 16:46:30 <peter1138> rather than 32 bits 16:46:36 <Nek21_bv> 32bpp graphics 16:46:46 <Nek21_bv> :) 16:46:53 <peter1138> i have no idea where you can download actual 32bpp graphics though 16:47:14 <peter1138> but the nightly does support the mythical beasts 16:47:28 <Nek21_bv> ok thank you. 16:51:02 <peter1138> heh, a dual-core cpu is nice for running a client & server on the same machine... 16:51:20 <hylje> :o 16:51:29 <hylje> isnt that somewat.. obvious? 16:51:33 <peter1138> yes 16:51:42 <peter1138> but this is national state-the-obvious day 16:51:46 <peter1138> didn't you know? 16:51:55 <hylje> no, i didn't 16:52:05 <hylje> and you're being rather meta there 16:53:34 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E2C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 16:54:42 * peter1138 idly ponders that quad-core cpu 16:54:51 <hylje> four openttds at a time! 16:55:02 <skidd13> peter1138: Is FS1095 better now? 17:03:18 <peter1138> not really 17:03:26 <peter1138> multiplying by an enum value? 17:03:54 <skidd13> Why not? 17:04:48 <skidd13> Or is a ((IS #1 of enum) ? 1 : 2) * better? 17:08:08 *** Nek21_bv [ZSOLT@82.78.190.117] has quit [] 17:18:37 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 17:19:12 <Sacro> oh nyet 17:19:40 <lolman> :o 17:26:21 <Nickman> TrueBrain: you here? :) 17:32:10 <Nickman> I'll be out for a while but I think there is something wrong with the drive trough bus stations in the NoAI branch, I can't get them to build... 17:32:13 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 17:32:20 *** Nickman is now known as Nickman^Away 17:33:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: miham * r10737 /trunk/src/lang/ (catalan.txt german.txt polish.txt): 17:33:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Update: WebTranslator2 update to 2007-07-30 19:33:14 17:33:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 51 changed by arnaullv (51) 17:33:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: german - 3 changed by chu (3) 17:33:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: polish - 5 fixed by meush (5) 17:39:53 <Noldo> skidd13: even if you were right you would be wrong 17:41:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:42:35 *** Maedhros [~jc@i-195-137-43-74.freedom2surf.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:43:55 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:51:40 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has joined #openttd 18:00:26 *** Nickman^Away [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-152-108.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:09:44 <skidd13> Noldo: He's the lead dev so his word counts. 18:09:44 <skidd13> peter1138: Better now? 18:13:23 *** legoscia [jabber@serafim.cd.chalmers.se] has joined #openttd 18:16:28 <Noldo> skidd13: my point exactly 18:21:33 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0ECB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:21:56 *** JazzyJaffa [~ben@fwnat-pub-1.physics.ox.ac.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:21 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0EAF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:26:45 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 18:27:18 <skidd13> Noldo: I'm the opinion that perseverance pays off always. 18:42:34 <Priski> hmm, changelog in http://www.openttd.org/nightly.php is bit misleading where it says "2 lines" etc. I'm guessing that it shows svn commit message lines (+1 ?), not number of lines in code that changed, as some people might first think... 18:53:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A550E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:15:26 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-193-46-fixip.tiscali.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:21:44 *** Zaviori [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 19:25:10 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:25:40 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-103-209.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 19:26:00 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:27:32 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-152-108.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 19:29:45 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0ECB9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:40:38 *** peterbrett [~peter@ptbb2b.girton.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:59:21 *** JazzyJaffa [~jazzy@85-211-142-91.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:03:48 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:09:52 <Wolf01> 'night 20:09:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host163-229-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:12:55 <ln-> night comes early in italy. 20:17:59 <peter1138> 10pm? 20:18:12 <peter1138> well not everyone stays up all night 20:19:07 <Priski> nope 20:24:00 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:31 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@vetrnik.koleje.cuni.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:46:11 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60E2C.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 20:47:58 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:54:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> depends how you define "night" :p 20:54:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's definitely dark outside 20:55:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> but in finland, the sun is probably still up :p 20:56:01 <Wezz6400> well, do you define night as night, or as evening ;) 20:57:42 <Rubidium> 1 : the time from dusk to dawn when no sunlight is visible 20:58:09 *** Nickman_ [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:58:10 <ln-> not this south in finland. 20:58:16 <Rubidium> Wolf01 is in Italy and it gets pretty dark there 20:58:29 <Rubidium> around 10 pm CEST 21:00:26 <Wezz6400> so 21:00:34 <Wezz6400> the night is the perfect time to code! 21:01:07 <Rubidium> and the perfect time to sleep 21:01:27 * Rubidium ponders a biannual migration 21:01:36 <Wezz6400> meh 21:01:40 <Wezz6400> sleep is overrated 21:01:40 <ln-> for the record, sun sets at about 21:54 in helsinki these days. 21:02:52 <ln-> and about 40 minutes later in Oulu. 21:03:26 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-152-108.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:03:36 *** Nickman_ is now known as Nickman 21:05:26 *** Turulo [~weed@84.77.129.4] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:07:06 <ln-> and in the very north, sun sets twice tomorrow, wtf? 21:07:57 <Rubidium> at something like 0:01 and 23:59 I guess 21:08:48 <ln-> 0:09 and 23:59 21:08:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> the joy of summer time :p 21:09:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> when midnight is not really midnight :p 21:09:25 <Wezz6400> midnight isn't midnight for most peope 21:09:27 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C657.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:09:41 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: the number of places where midnight is actually midnight is very small 21:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> "midnight" as in "24:00" is not the same as "midnight" as in "lowest point of the sun movement" 21:11:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> Rubidium: yes, timezones also matter, but the summer time makes the problem worse 21:11:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> those were the days, when each village had its own timezone :p 21:12:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think they were abolished in the 19th century in germany 21:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> most pressure against "local timezones" came from the rail company, because it was impossible to create proper train schedules 21:13:14 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0F18D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:14:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think germany was divided into 6 timezones before that, each around 5 minutes apart 21:18:47 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:18:50 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 21:20:59 <Priski> it would be nice if we all just used one timezone, it would make some things easier 21:21:27 <Wezz6400> very true, however that would mean that half the planet would live at night and sleep during the day 21:21:32 <Wezz6400> that's not gonna work very well I think 21:22:04 <Sacro> Wezz6400: time is an illusion 21:22:11 <Sacro> lunchtime doubly so... 21:22:45 <legoscia> it might work. i've read about a culture (forgot which) where they start counting the hours at 6 in the evening, so they have shifted 6 hours already 21:23:00 <Sacro> i prefer using swatch time 21:23:05 <Nickman> gnight all 21:23:25 *** Nickman [~chatzilla@ALyon-156-1-20-228.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]] 21:23:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, we should all live after Zulu time :p 21:23:50 <Priski> Wezz6400, i really don't think so cause then just word 'night', etc... would mean different thing on different places 21:23:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> (= UTC, i believe) 21:23:59 <Wezz6400> Priski maybe so 21:24:15 <Sacro> i use "night" whatever time it is 21:24:15 <Wezz6400> but the earth isn't gonna stop rotating so people would be living in the dark 21:24:46 <Priski> I really don't see why this has to do anything to "people living in the dark" 21:24:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> but this would be the end of all experiments like summer time 21:25:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> you won't shift regularly scheduled times by an hour every half year 21:25:48 <Priski> another thing that bugs me is the gregorian calender system 21:26:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> why, what is wrong with it? 21:27:11 <Rubidium> and what do you suggest as an alternative? 21:29:34 <peter1138> cheese 21:30:04 <Wezz6400> hmmmm, cheeese *drool* 21:30:14 <Eddi|zuHause3> cheese is bäähh... 21:30:38 <Wezz6400> I homerdrooled, therefore cheese is good :P 21:31:30 <Priski> well mostly is inaccuracy with rotation of earth, and some other issues with weekday rotation etc 21:32:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> Priski: that is not an answer to either question. 21:32:43 <Priski> I cant find the suggestion which I some time ago bumped into on net 21:33:33 <Priski> I'm busy now with my night-time-noodles, I just flooded my plate all over kitchen 21:33:46 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:12 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is the poorest excuse i heard all month 21:34:52 <Priski> :) 21:34:57 <Priski> yeah I know 21:35:12 <Rubidium> Priski: as long as the number of earth rotations per rotation of the earth around the sun cannot be expressed in a natural number and the number of earth rotations per rotation around the sun cannot be divided into a natural number that is between say 5 and 10 there is NO calendar system that magically "solves" your issues. 21:37:30 <Priski> I know, there always will be a need an leap-day, leap-week, or leap-something an all calendars 21:38:47 <ln-> not if we don't care about the correlation between time and sunshine anymore. 21:40:19 <Priski> but it would be nice if (or interesting at most) to start a year same weekday every year, and all holidays etc would occur on same weekday so things like planning holidays way ahead in work would be easier. But I don't really know if that is even worth trying 21:41:25 <Rubidium> Priski: the problem would be that they are going to "replan" all the holidays to be in the weekend 21:41:35 <ln-> changes like that are so much easier to introduce when you're e.g. the emperor of rome. 21:42:23 <Priski> Rubidium, very likely, but no-one really knows how well it would work 21:43:28 <Rubidium> having more "workdays" because the holidays are in the weekend is worse that your planning issue (IMO) 21:44:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> "and all holidays etc would occur on same weekday" <- that is already with a lot of holidays (easter, etc.) 21:44:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> the holidays that are based on a lunar calender 21:44:20 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: yeah, but they are going to do it with christmas too 21:45:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> Priski: do you have any idea how long it took until most governments adjusted to the gregorian calendar? 21:45:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> how long do you think it will take to change that to another random calender, when the current system runs great? 21:46:06 <Rubidium> and more working days because of christmas not being on a week day and not being paid for the free day because christmas is a week day is worse than Priski's planning issue ;) 21:46:07 <Priski> a long time 21:46:33 <Rubidium> *is not a week day 21:46:38 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 21:46:57 <ln-> i propose switching to star dates. 21:47:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> speaking of easter, what is the english name for "Pfingsten" (50 days after easter)? 21:47:50 <Sacro> errr... 21:47:52 <Sacro> Pentacost? 21:48:02 <ln-> 4th of july? :) 21:48:05 <Priski> what is 50days after easter? 21:48:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> is tht an answer? 21:48:12 <Sacro> w00t 21:48:14 <Sacro> i was right! 21:48:49 <Priski> ahh that day (looked up in wiki) 21:48:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's more like 49 days (=7 weeks), but they count the first and the last day, so it makes 50 21:48:50 <Rubidium> Sacro: your not 21:48:54 <Sacro> Rubidium: yes i am 21:48:59 <Rubidium> it's Pentecost 21:49:01 <Sacro> go to de.wikipedia.org 21:49:05 <Sacro> what did i say? 21:49:12 <Sacro> damn i was close :p 21:50:13 <Priski> that is one of the most useless holidays on my calendar, (but having holidays is good so whatta hell..) 21:52:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> Priski: it's an important clerical holiday here, actually even two days (sunday and monday, same as easter) 21:53:19 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:53:24 <Priski> :o 21:53:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> there are a lot of non-clerical traditions around that weekend here, also 21:53:56 <Priski> well different cultures have different holiday traditions 21:54:03 <Rubidium> I propose to make special days (like Christmas is for Christians) from the Islamic, Jewish and all other religions also holidays ;) 21:55:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> Rubidium: actually, a lot of "christian" holidays were placed on holidays that existed in the local cultures long before christianisation 21:55:45 <Rubidium> who cares? 21:55:56 <ln-> \o_ 21:55:58 <Rubidium> more free days ;) 21:56:08 <Priski> :) 21:56:48 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 21:56:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> and actually, it is most likely that "christmas" is one of those, where it is very close to the "Wintersonnenwende" (shortest day of the year, 21. December)) 21:57:54 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DB22.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:58:37 <Eddi|zuHause3> traditional "easter fires" (on the saturday before easter) are most likely also an even older "heidnic" tradition 21:59:11 <Priski> old pagan holidays are best :) 21:59:35 <Wezz6400> Eddi|zuHause3 the christmas tree comes from one of the old scandinavian cultures I believe 22:00:02 <ln-> easter fires are for expelling witches. 22:00:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> Wezz6400: yeah, where christus lived there were hardly any needle-trees to find :p 22:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: yes, witches have a very old tradition in this region 22:00:46 *** alex____ [~alexalex@78.86.15.85] has joined #openttd 22:00:48 <Wezz6400> fireworks is for scaring away ghosts I think 22:01:09 <alex____> could i run 0.5.2-RC2 + 0.5.2 stable and the nightly on the same debian box? 22:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> in the "Harz" mountains there is a famous place called "Hexentanzplatz" ("place where whiches dance") 22:01:41 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C657.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:01:55 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:29 <ln-> do they? 22:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> even in Goethe's "Faust" they make an appearance 22:03:35 <Rubidium> and Santa Claus comes from a Dutch tradition 22:04:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> although that scene does not play at the "Hexentanzplatz" near Thale, but near Schierke (next to the highest mountain in the "Harz") 22:04:21 <Priski> in old pagan finnish holiday, "santa claus" was feared man who would go around houses drinkin their alcohol, but now it has evolved something bit different... :) 22:04:38 <alex____> could i run 0.5.2-RC2 + 0.5.2 stable and the nightly on the same debian box? ----- anyone know if i can? 22:05:09 <Rubidium> alex____: you can, but not by installing three different debian packages 22:05:14 <Rubidium> you have to compile two of them 22:05:27 <alex____> thats fine.... 22:05:57 <alex____> ok thanks, ill check it out tomorrow 22:06:11 <alex____> is there any scripts around to automaticly download the nightly?\ 22:06:12 <ln-> Priski: thanks to coca-cola®. 22:06:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> actually "Sankt Nikolaus" was a christian monk who originated in the area of turkey, and traveled from the netherlands eastwards through germany, supposedly handing out gifts 22:06:56 <Priski> ln-, :D 22:06:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> that was around the 4th century, i believe 22:07:33 <Rubidium> alex____: no, but that's because doing it manually is easier than downloading the script 22:07:34 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:07:48 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:08:21 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:08:23 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C12B.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 22:08:49 <Priski> guy who added santa a bear was some comedy cartoonist in 1863 (?) 22:09:11 <Priski> err, bearD 22:09:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> the current image of "santa claus" is supposedly majorly influenced by coca cola 22:10:33 <Wezz6400> well the thing is that that image got popular in the us, and because us culture is kinda dominant now most people on this planet know that image 22:12:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't think it actually has something to do with dominance, because that image of "santa claus" was even popular in eastern block countries, which are not exactly known for american dominance :p 22:13:54 <Wezz6400> hmm ok didn't know that 22:14:02 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp83-237-103-209.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:15 <Wezz6400> I do know that in the netherlands we have sinterklaas, which is based on the same guy you were talking about traveling through germany 22:14:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i know 22:14:35 <Rubidium> s/based on// 22:14:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> but you celebrate that a day earlier :) 22:15:11 <Wezz6400> december 5th actually 22:15:33 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0089.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:06 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:19:01 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 22:19:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> exactly, and we celebrate it on the 6th 22:19:39 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-227-157-44.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 22:19:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> (supposedly his day of death, actually) 22:19:52 <Wezz6400> I see 22:20:14 <Wezz6400> I don't suppose you guys have him coming into the country officially and stuff like that 22:23:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> the tradition is to have kids clean their boots, and on the next morning, clean boots are filled with sweets, and dirty boots with a piece of coal 22:24:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:25:10 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6B27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:25:15 <Wezz6400> hmm ok 22:25:31 <Wezz6400> we still have that 22:25:39 <Wezz6400> though without the cleaning or coal these days 22:26:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have never known any instance of coal being placed into boots either :p 22:27:06 <Rubidium> just scare tactics 22:29:10 <Wezz6400> hehe yeah just as the story about taking kids back to spain :D 22:29:23 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:29:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have never heard about that... 22:29:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> what is that about? 22:30:33 <Wezz6400> It's another scare tactic, if you're not behaving well you'll be taken back to spain in the bag which contained the gifts on the way over here 22:31:09 *** hrada [~ty@85.207.18.146] has joined #openttd 22:31:17 *** ufoun [~ty@85.207.18.146] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:25 <Priski> :D 22:31:43 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:31:43 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> enough with the christmas, it's summer :p 22:35:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> at least it's supposed to, the temperatures do not actually behave :p 22:35:54 <glx> :) 22:36:02 *** Digitalfox_Desktop [~Digitalfo@bl7-191-130.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: Bye] 22:42:09 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 22:45:20 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:45:36 *** hrada [~ty@85.207.18.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:49:21 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0F0D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:53:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 22:56:06 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0DB22.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:03:06 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@81-233-4-59-no34.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:12:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: until tomorrow, don't die!] 23:15:07 *** legoscia [jabber@serafim.cd.chalmers.se] has left #openttd [] 23:20:43 *** alex____ [~alexalex@78.86.15.85] has quit [] 23:45:05 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:45:06 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-196-157.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 23:54:25 *** JazzyJaffa [~jazzy@85-211-142-91.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]