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00:02:42 <RichK67> state machine was actually moving and reserving exactly as it was instructed... problem was its reading the instructions wrong... but it works ok here... 00:03:09 <Rubidium> deadlock solved 00:03:21 <RichK67> YIPPEEEEEE 00:03:36 <RichK67> ReadBlocksInto? 00:03:37 <Rubidium> though the "only one aircraft per airport" remains 00:03:42 <Rubidium> RichK67: yes 00:04:17 <RichK67> what is "only one per airport"? 00:04:45 <Rubidium> that I can only have one aircraft on an airport, unless the aircraft goes into the depot, then a second one can land 00:06:04 <RichK67> block 44 or 40 must be staying locked... doesnt make sense... ok, depot clearing it does, since that has clearing code 00:07:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08:13 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-230-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 00:08:16 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-230-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 00:10:07 <Rubidium> RichK67: I've committed some stuff, but CIA is sucky 00:10:17 <RichK67> okies 00:11:55 <Rubidium> v[01]: 00000000000100040000000000000002, s[01]: 00000000000100040000000000000002 00:12:10 <Rubidium> that's the state after it leaves the terminal 00:13:52 <RichK67> i dont see i have anything that matches with a bit that high 00:14:48 <RichK67> thats 50 00:14:54 <Rubidium> 00000000000100100000000000000000 00:14:54 <Rubidium> 00000000000000010000000000000000 00:15:02 <RichK67> not in the FSM 00:15:08 <Rubidium> first is what the aircraft has, second is what it has to release 00:16:28 *** alex____ [~email@78.86.15.85] has joined #openttd 00:16:34 *** alex_ [~alexalex@78.86.15.85] has quit [] 00:16:41 *** alex____ is now known as alex_ 00:17:38 <RichK67> i think its ReadBlocksInto still... check what blocks are getting returned... this doesnt make any sense to me at all 00:22:32 <RichK67> Rubidium: in order to save airport_flags, now it is a blockmap struct, how do i do it? the member vars are private and cant be referenced directly, and the .GetLower() function wont work in the saveload code 00:23:06 <RichK67> as in: SLE_CONDVAR(Station, airport_flags.GetLower(), SLE_UINT64, SL_FSMPORTS_VSN, SL_MAX_VERSION), 00:23:06 <RichK67> wont compile 00:23:23 <Rubidium> RichK67: look at cargopackets 00:23:38 <RichK67> okies 00:25:24 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:25:55 <alex_> . 00:26:11 <RichK67> doesnt seem to help... CP saveload structure is just basic vars, not substructures 00:29:43 <Rubidium> well, CargoList's List (which is private) is hackishly made non-private for saveloading 00:30:41 <Rubidium> RichK67: http://paste.openttd.org/200 <- that's what's being read from the file (or how it's being read) 00:32:12 <RichK67> your new code in ReadBlocksInto, isnt translating correctly 00:32:48 <RichK67> the error is the block in position 0x10, which is the Flying/go for landing step 00:34:20 <Rubidium> probably my fault 00:34:21 <RichK67> 7E 44 40 7F should produce: 00....0011 00:34:27 <RichK67> in upperblock 00:37:11 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 00:41:49 <Rubidium> anyway, time for me to go to sleep 00:42:19 <RichK67> yeah, im shattered too 00:44:03 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 00:44:11 <Rubidium> oh, now I remember why the thing worked in MSVC 00:44:29 <Rubidium> it probably zeros the memory when in debug 00:44:30 <RichK67> ooooo.... 00:44:36 <RichK67> ah.... 00:44:55 <RichK67> and in release too... worked fine there too 00:50:53 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:04 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:53:39 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 00:53:42 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 00:56:16 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:00:15 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 01:08:00 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 01:09:19 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-208-206.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:10:09 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 01:11:25 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C81C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:31:46 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7682C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:32:11 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:33:40 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 01:38:04 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B760E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:46:58 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10791 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Change: Modified rb_airport2.grf to use MeusH minipic of commuter airport. Corrected fences of orientation 03. 02:05:26 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 02:12:19 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 02:13:58 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:22:32 *** alex_ [~email@78.86.15.85] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20070730)] 02:26:44 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-124-188-65-231.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:27:01 *** BurningFeetMan [~chatzilla@CPE-124-188-65-231.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #openttd [] 02:38:41 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:44:26 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:04:10 *** Red [SeXyRed@24-197-198-56.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:18 <Gekko> I wonder how many devs use a pirated version of MSVC. 03:10:52 <hylje> from the commit devs i doubt any do 03:16:06 <ln-> I wonder how many devs use a pirated version of TTD. 03:16:38 <hylje> given the artificial scarcity of TTD, i'd suppose several 03:17:00 <Gekko> I own TTD. 03:17:09 <Gekko> Teh DOS version. 03:17:27 * ThePizzaKing does too 03:17:47 * ln- owns it too. 03:17:53 <Gekko> I pwn it 03:17:54 <Gekko> :O 03:17:57 <ThePizzaKing> from KMart :D 03:18:10 <ln-> KMart sounds american. 03:18:25 <hylje> or KDE 03:18:42 <ThePizzaKing> only if it's said with an American accent ;) 03:18:46 <Gekko> KMart in Australia isn't the KMart in the US. 03:18:52 <Gekko> K-Mart in the US. 03:20:05 <ThePizzaKing> And my Dad said it was a waste of money 03:20:07 <ThePizzaKing> heh 03:20:13 <ThePizzaKing> Showed him 03:20:41 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 03:21:30 <ThePizzaKing> CIA's back, better stop talking about pirated stuff ;) 03:27:55 <Gekko> ?_? 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07:17:40 <hylje> y 07:17:51 * SpComb 2 07:17:57 <hylje> ^_^ 07:18:06 <SpComb> I've even played a game of OpenTTD here 07:18:16 <hylje> wii boxing 07:18:43 <SpComb> indeed 07:19:01 * SpComb tries not to fall asleep 07:20:01 <hylje> take a walk 07:20:04 <hylje> go play itg 07:20:12 <SpComb> nein 07:20:27 <hylje> :< 07:20:50 <SpComb> I've barely slept 12 hours during the thursday-now period 07:21:58 <hylje> :o 07:27:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host170-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 07:27:21 <Wolf01> hello 07:35:47 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 07:39:58 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #openttd 07:50:29 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:53:17 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:53:22 <simon444> hi 07:53:31 <simon444> what did I miss? 07:57:02 *** ThePizzaKing is now known as Welcome 07:57:13 *** Welcome is now known as ThePizzaKing 07:57:50 <ThePizzaKing> hmm, That was meant to be /topic 07:58:48 <hylje> :D 07:58:53 <hylje> hi Welcome 07:59:08 <Gekko> ouch 07:59:20 <Gekko> i just got a staple remover stuck in my mouth 07:59:24 <Gekko> and still, I continue to type 08:00:29 <ThePizzaKing> How did you manage that? 08:03:10 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:04:00 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:06:02 <Purno> does anyone know the sprite offsets for openttd.grf ? 08:06:30 <Gekko> well 08:06:32 <Gekko> I was bored. 08:06:36 <Gekko> stuck it in backwards 08:06:44 <Gekko> heres my mouth ) 08:06:51 <Gekko> the staple remover 08:06:52 <Gekko> > 08:06:57 <Gekko> )> 08:07:02 <Gekko> you see, it cant get out easily 08:07:14 <Gekko> if i shut my mouth, it will launch down my throat 08:07:19 <Gekko> I think I should calll the hospital lol 08:08:24 <Purno> peter1138 perhaps? 08:11:57 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:14:22 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 08:15:00 <Wolf01> anybody here ever compiled and installed libiconv? 08:15:34 <Gekko> I have. 08:17:47 <Wolf01> did you had to copy the compiled files by hand? 08:19:02 <Wolf01> i'm trying to compile glib, which needs libiconv, compiled iconv and installed but he still can't see it 08:19:57 <Gekko> ldconfig 08:20:07 <Gekko> or compile with --prefix=/usr 08:21:00 *** Gekko [~Gekkko@CPE-124-183-12-152.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Quit: http://bbqsrc.org - Now less gay.] 08:25:54 <Wolf01> ... 08:26:45 <Wolf01> also with configure --with-libiconv=no, like there is written in --help it tries to use it -.- 08:34:15 <peter1138> i just leave all those libs to package management 08:36:47 <Wolf01> eh... msys does not have a package management 08:37:03 <Wolf01> at least, not like cygwin 08:37:30 <Wolf01> but with cygwin i can't get a working program 08:37:36 <peter1138> just bite the bullet and install a proper OS alongside windows 08:39:54 <Purno> peter1138 , do you coincidnetally know the sprite offsets for openttd.grf ? 08:55:42 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:02:11 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:20 <simon888> This just in: Australia Defence Force does drugs on youtube 09:05:33 <simon888> or at least that is what the news is telling me 09:06:20 <simon888> the news also told me the Australian Government is going to start a magic filter next week to protect minors from sex predators 09:07:26 <simon888> a misinterpretation of the the Government's plan to offer a free opt-in pornography filter 09:07:35 <simon888> I am starting to hate the news 09:07:54 <simon888> I only realized this stuff they said is all wrong because I am a techie 09:08:13 <simon888> but how much other things which I am a simpleton do they get wrong? 09:14:10 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:29 <simon888> On topic: How do I replace vehicles in the nightly? 09:17:04 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 09:21:05 <simon888> peter1138, would you know? 09:31:30 <simon888> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Replacing_Vehicles has nothing about nighlies 09:32:19 <peter1138> instead of 'Repalce Vehicles' there's 'Manage List' menu (or something like that) 09:32:31 <peter1138> on that menu is the Replace Vehicles option 09:34:07 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C5BB.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:34:40 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:36:40 <Purno> is it me or is there a bug in OpenTTD setting wagon speed limit at 1 km/h randomly? 09:36:44 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 09:39:02 <Purno> I got a GRF which works fine in TTDpatch, but in OpenTTD it got wagon speed limits of 1km/h... 09:39:23 <rav> that's.. 09:39:26 <rav> odd 09:40:20 <hylje> probably kW issue 09:41:16 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:42:17 <Purno> hmm... 09:42:48 <Purno> ttdpatch got 13mph as max trainspeed but doesn't mention a wagon speed limit in depot menu :/ 09:43:13 <hylje> you got the feature enabled? 09:43:19 <Purno> yep, just turned it on 09:43:51 <Purno> could be an issue with GRFMaker too perhaps... 09:44:38 <Purno> MUs seem to work fine though... 09:46:09 <Purno> even the strongest engine runs on 13mph in ttdp :/ 09:46:38 <Purno> MUs work fine... 09:46:52 *** smoovi [~smoovi@dslb-088-073-096-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:06 <Purno> I think I'm gonna post in at the forums... 09:47:18 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 09:49:18 *** smoovi [~smoovi@dslb-088-073-096-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #openttd [] 09:59:42 <simon444> okay do UFOs steal parts of your train track? 09:59:53 <simon444> or do they just go missing at random? 10:00:15 <rav> they land on the track 10:00:17 *** smoovi [~smoovi@dslb-088-073-096-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:23 <Prof_Frink> simon444: Next time a UFO lands, watch 10:00:23 <rav> and then the track is bombed by the evil government 10:00:59 <simon444> WTF! 10:01:09 <simon444> CHRIS!!! 10:02:38 <hylje> wut 10:03:36 <simon444> I have a pile up of 100 trains because of that stupid ufo 10:03:47 <hylje> disable disasters then 10:03:52 <simon444> and I created another 40 because it was quiet 10:04:27 <simon444> I have no problem with UFOs... just would like to know that they bomb tracks so I could fix it when I saw it 10:08:29 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:16 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 10:12:16 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:18:26 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:18:35 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:19:17 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 10:23:30 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 10:49:22 <Ammler> hi, whats the difference between multiplayer LAN and Internet? 10:50:12 <peter1138> lan probes the network, internet queries the masterserver 10:51:02 <Ammler> probes? 10:51:08 <Ammler> bradcast? 10:52:04 <peter1138> udp broadcast 10:52:35 *** aesok [~aesok@89-178-12-76.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 10:52:36 <Ammler> so, its less work for the master? 10:52:54 <peter1138> and the server, and the client 10:53:09 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0274.bb.online.no] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 10:53:11 <peter1138> and all the other servers you're not interested in 10:53:17 *** aesok [~aesok@89-178-12-76.broadband.corbina.ru] has left #openttd [] 10:53:34 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CF98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:54:51 <Ammler> but MP over vpn wouldn't bring some CPU performance advantage 10:58:27 <simon888> damit another crash 10:58:46 <simon888> what is the link for the changelog? 11:00:10 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 11:00:37 <simon888> CIA-1: link 11:05:11 <peter1138> Ammler: none at all 11:09:49 <rav> Ive been having trouble running a server since yesterday.. 11:09:59 <rav> I forward the ports, start the game etc.. 11:10:05 <rav> but it just doesnt show up 11:10:28 <Ammler> rav, did you forward TCP and UDP? 11:10:32 <rav> yep 11:10:39 <rav> 3979 on tcp and on udp 11:11:49 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:40 <simon888> rav, can others connect to it? 11:13:09 <rav> thats the problem 11:13:12 <rav> it wont even show 11:13:20 <rav> you can try though: 213.84.75.15 11:15:06 <simon888> your ip is not routable or I lost internet connection again 11:16:07 <simon888> any suggestions for this: http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8017/dondbournetransport22ndpj7.png 11:16:46 <simon888> I need something to join the stations together so they all can accept coal 11:16:54 <Wolf01> i want to do another patch: open depots, so you can see what there is in, this mean: station like depots = i don't have idea from where begin :P 11:17:24 <Ammler> rav, can't ping it 11:17:44 <rav> router ;) 11:17:47 <rav> ping port 3979 11:18:02 <simon888> rav, I can't route to it. 11:18:23 <Wolf01> simon888, remove that piece of station in the middle 11:18:28 <peter1138> simon888: just remove that bit of station 11:18:42 <simon888> Wolf01, but I need it... so they all can accept coal 11:18:57 <Wolf01> they already accept coal 11:19:29 <Wolf01> they are the same station, and will be the same station also without that piece 11:20:18 <simon888> how do I delete just that bit? 11:20:32 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 11:20:33 <simon888> If I bomb it it bombs the WHOLE station 11:20:34 <peter1138> bulldozer 11:20:38 <Wolf01> like when you remove signals 11:20:47 <simon888> oh forgot about that 11:20:51 <simon888> nice idea! 11:21:24 <Ammler> rav, how to ping a special port? 11:21:49 <rav> I think with -w 11:22:17 <Tefad> nmap -P0 -p<yourport> somehost.com maybe.. 11:22:23 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 11:22:47 <Ammler> -p0 means without ping or am I wrong? 11:22:57 <Tefad> right 11:23:09 <Tefad> as ping requires transmission of data 11:23:35 <Tefad> you merely want to see if a box will respond with closed or accept the connection 11:23:57 <simon888> peter1138, you mean magic bulldozer? 11:24:00 * peter1138 wonders how feasible a 700x525 modeline is 11:24:03 <Tefad> so it's irrelavant if the box actually pings or not 11:24:05 <peter1138> simon888: no... 11:24:11 * Tefad shrugs 11:25:12 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:25:22 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A76FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:25:26 <simon444> okay the button which turns the track to red is regular bulldoer? 11:26:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:26:37 <Ammler> rav, I scanned your IP, see no open port 11:26:43 <rav> k 11:26:53 <rav> Ill try the *new* access point then 11:26:57 <rav> see if the problem is there 11:27:05 <Ammler> 3979/tcp filtered unknown 11:27:44 <Ammler> just try without firwall 11:28:38 <rav> no thanks 11:28:42 <rav> I configured my firewall 11:28:49 <rav> it should let 3979 open 11:28:50 <simon444> because it aint working... says remove station first 11:28:50 <simon444> last thing I got was * Tefad shrugs 11:28:53 <simon444> fuck my internet 11:28:59 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 11:29:02 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:29:24 <simon444> <simon444> okay the button which turns the track to red is regular bulldoer? 11:29:24 <simon444> <simon444> because it aint working... says remove station first 11:29:24 <simon444> <simon444> last thing I got was * Tefad shrugs 11:29:24 <simon444> <simon444> fuck my internet so unstable today 11:29:38 <rav> simon: 11:29:45 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7682C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:29:48 <rav> select the station building tool, then select the bulldozer button 11:29:52 <Eddi|zuHause> simon444: not with the track building tool, with the station building tool, and then bulldozer 11:30:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30:28 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74C27.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:30:50 <Ammler> rav, if you disable it, you can see, that you configured it wrong 11:31:18 <Ammler> its much easier then to replace the router 11:31:26 <simon444> WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 11:31:26 <Eddi|zuHause> rav: you have to open for both TCP and UDP 11:31:29 <simon444> thanks! 11:31:46 <rav> ok 11:31:52 <rav> you got 2 minutes :p 11:31:57 <rav> after that it auto kicks in again 11:32:05 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:32:34 <rav> and tcp and udp are both open 11:32:46 <Ammler> haven't you NAT? 11:32:50 <simon444> I am a BILLIONAIRE! 11:33:29 <rav> I did 11:33:33 <Ammler> with NAT, a firewall is a littlebit useless 11:33:38 <rav> but Im on wireless since 2 days 11:33:51 <rav> so my access point could be the problem here 11:33:58 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:34:18 <Ammler> 3979/tcp open unknown 11:34:22 <Ammler> check now rav 11:34:42 <rav> 11:34:42 <rav> 3 11:34:42 <rav> 11:34:42 <rav> Temp 11:34:42 <rav> 11:34:42 <rav> 10.0.0.150:3979 11:34:44 <rav> 11:34:44 <rav> unspecified:3979 11:34:46 <rav> 11:34:46 <rav> tcp 11:34:48 <rav> 11:34:48 <rav> NONE 11:34:50 <rav> 11:34:50 <rav> 4 11:34:52 <rav> 11:34:52 <rav> Temp 11:34:54 <rav> 11:34:54 <rav> 10.0.0.150:3979 11:34:56 <rav> 11:34:56 <rav> unspecified:3979 11:34:58 <rav> 11:34:58 <rav> udp 11:34:58 <Ammler> don't paste here 11:34:59 <Tefad> wtf 11:35:00 <rav> 11:35:00 <rav> NONE 11:35:02 <rav> theyre NAT'ted :p 11:35:11 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 11:35:18 <Tefad> and you just spammed like a crazy person 11:35:29 <rav> sry 11:35:47 <Ammler> rav, you can use pastey.net or something simular for such things 11:35:58 <rav> yea, in my client it just shows as one message 11:36:12 <rav> I forgot pasting creates a new message for every new line :$ 11:43:13 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:49:44 *** simon444 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:17 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:54:55 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:59:52 <simon888> I am printing more money than bill gates 12:00:11 <simon888> over a 1000 ton of coal per train 12:00:17 <simon888> 2048 blocks 12:00:26 <simon888> 40 trains per set 12:00:34 <simon888> 8 sets 12:01:07 <Gekko[PDA]> oh? 12:02:32 <ln-> haha, peer got him. 12:03:17 <simon888> that is 320 thousand tons of coal per lap 12:04:56 <simon888> my trains do 650km/h 12:07:43 <Eddi|zuHause> oh great, he discovered the stupidity of long straight lines... 12:08:06 <Eddi|zuHause> now if he realised that he could double the money with diagonal lines... 12:08:16 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:09:18 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, lol 12:09:45 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, my map is only 2048x128 12:09:58 <simon888> diagonal is useless for me right now 12:12:55 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:15:30 <simon888> shit I crossed lines 12:15:51 <simon888> fuck trains are mixed and I didn't group them 12:16:07 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #openttd 12:17:01 <Gekko[PDA]> simon888: autosaves 12:17:14 <simon888> thank you 12:17:22 <Gekko[PDA]> :) 12:17:23 <simon888> forgot about them 12:17:40 <simon888> I actually did a manual save just before 12:17:43 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A76FD.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 12:19:01 <Gekko[PDA]> lol 12:19:02 <Gekko[PDA]> k 12:27:08 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, I could quadruple the money by having diagonal and then tunnel back to the right side... 12:27:23 <simon888> nanana I have a bigger penis than you 12:27:44 <Eddi|zuHause> err... that of course won't work 12:28:41 <simon888> why not 12:28:46 <simon888> more blocks 12:28:54 <peter1138> tiles 12:28:56 <peter1138> they're tiles 12:28:57 <simon888> ---- 12:29:06 <simon888> .../ 12:29:10 <simon888> ../ 12:29:13 <peter1138> and payment is by distance from source to destination, not distance travelled 12:29:16 <simon888> ./ 12:29:23 <Gekko[PDA]> lol 12:29:24 <simon888> something like that 12:29:26 <Gekko[PDA]> owned. 12:29:31 <simon888> peter1138, oh 12:29:52 <simon888> peter1138, guess you have a bigger penis than everyone... 12:29:59 <peter1138> of course i do 12:30:07 <peter1138> what do you think 1138 means 12:30:11 <Gekko[PDA]> he's a shim. 12:30:12 <Gekko[PDA]> :o 12:30:27 <Gekko[PDA]> you're PIN 12:30:28 <simon888> shim? 12:30:31 <Gekko[PDA]> your* 12:30:32 <simon888> pin? 12:30:52 <simon888> personal identification number? 12:31:05 <Gekko[PDA]> yer. 12:35:48 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 12:37:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-33-153.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:27 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-166-100.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:43:30 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-46.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #openttd 12:44:10 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E0DB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:44:12 <Chris82> hi :) 12:44:47 <Chris82> I encountered a serious bug with groups/autoreplace (http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1105) which even just crashed my network game 12:45:01 <Chris82> I just create a trunk game for re-production of the problem and upload the savegame 12:47:39 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 12:48:46 *** Zavior [~asdsad@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 12:50:14 <Chris82> hmmm lol autoreplace doesn't even work with r10791 =/ what's wrong here 12:50:17 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-117-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:16 <Chris82> ah ok that was only the money limit 12:58:51 <simon888> chris... 12:59:18 <simon888> what is your last name? 12:59:52 <Gekko[PDA]> X 13:00:07 <glx> IN ;) 13:00:42 <Gekko[PDA]> lol 13:01:19 <Chris82> simon: glx got it right :p 13:01:26 <Chris82> why do you want to know my last name? :D 13:01:58 <Gekko[PDA]> he's stealing your identity 13:02:09 <Chris82> well then check > http://www.sandra-bullock.co.uk/readme.htm 13:06:23 <Chris82> btw... good idea glx 13:06:25 *** Chris82 is now known as ChrisIN 13:06:27 <ChrisIN> :D lol 13:08:30 <Eddi|zuHause> lmao 13:11:03 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 13:11:36 <simon888> there a chris I want to give something to... 13:11:39 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:08 <ChrisIN> awww do I get a present? :D 13:12:37 <simon888> maybe 13:12:48 <simon888> if you are the right chris 13:13:30 <Gekko[PDA]> just spill the last name 13:13:42 <Gekko[PDA]> and he3 can decide 13:15:29 *** Rexxie [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0274.bb.online.no] has joined #openttd 13:16:24 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 13:21:14 *** Sacro [~Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:22:28 *** Gekko[PDA] [~gekko@S01060010a71a08fb.ed.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:22:39 *** Gekko[PDA] [~gekko@68.148.112.177] has joined #openttd 13:22:56 <simon888> Gekko[PDA], his last name is IN? 13:23:07 <Gekko[PDA]> ... 13:23:08 <simon888> or Sacki? 13:23:24 <ChrisIN> my last name is Sackl 13:23:32 <simon888> lol 13:23:41 <simon888> that is you on the website? 13:23:42 <ChrisIN> IN stands for integrated nightly 13:23:52 <simon888> ROTFL 13:24:18 <ChrisIN> you mean on the OpenTTD forum? yeah but that pic was taken a few years ago :p 13:28:33 <ChrisIN> btw I think the fix for #1105 I reported earlier is something like adding DecreaseGroupNumVehicle to replaced vehicles 13:29:35 <simon888> ChrisIN, no on that website 13:31:20 <ChrisIN> huh?? that is Sandra Bullock, don't you know her?? 13:31:20 <Eddi|zuHause> i think he means the sandra bullock one 13:31:32 <ChrisIN> or what are you talking about? 13:31:46 <ChrisIN> I am the owner of the site if that is the question 13:37:23 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 13:38:57 <simon888> lol 13:39:08 <simon888> who the hell is Sandra? 13:39:54 <ChrisIN> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000113/ 13:40:11 <simon888> I googled here 13:40:34 <simon888> the first few images suggest she is some playboy doll 13:41:08 <ChrisIN> well your fault when you use Google 13:41:16 <ChrisIN> Google is an ugly, stupid bot machine 13:41:23 <ChrisIN> :p 13:42:12 <ChrisIN> try Yahoo or Live they at least show some movie/event pics as well 13:42:28 <simon888> so does Google 13:42:42 <simon888> but she is so undressed in her movies... you never know 13:45:02 <ChrisIN> those pics Google showed me in it's search result are from a 10 year old TV magazine photoshoot 13:47:50 <Eddi|zuHause> what, you haven't seen "Speed" or anything? 13:48:43 <simon888> no 13:49:01 <Eddi|zuHause> you have a lot to learn, young padawan 13:49:27 <simon888> I think I saw here on quiet a few commercials 13:49:49 <simon888> how do I close all windows but pinned ones? 13:50:45 <Prof_Frink> simon888: delete them 13:50:56 <simon888> thx 13:51:03 <simon888> del key 13:51:34 <ChrisIN> simon888: she even was in Sydney a while ago 13:51:40 <ChrisIN> she must've been in the news over there 13:52:00 <simon888> ChrisIN, you didn't read my rant about the news above 13:52:20 <ChrisIN> yes ;) 13:56:59 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:04:51 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 14:05:49 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has joined #openttd 14:09:01 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10792 /trunk/src/strings.cpp: -Fix [FS#1104]: when determining the gender of a string, do not assume that the gender is in the front of the string when there can be case switching code at that location. 14:11:45 *** simon888 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:33 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@1-1-5-12a.gam.gbg.bostream.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:20:31 *** simon888 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 14:28:40 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 14:29:17 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 14:31:40 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:39:38 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:40:07 <simon888> ftphyperdart2 or dinger 1000 14:40:47 <simon888> what is so good about the dinger 100 that it costs 4x the amount but only take a extra 45 people 14:41:00 <simon888> and is less reliable 14:41:12 <simon888> ottd isn't real life 14:41:19 <simon888> things are meant to make sense in ottd 14:41:43 *** Kittysune [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:41:56 <Noldo> don't use it if it doesn't serve your purposes 14:42:16 <simon888> Noldo, I have billions of dollars the cost doesn't worry me 14:42:22 <simon888> I make a billion per year 14:42:40 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B82863.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: icebears... take care of them!] 14:42:40 <simon888> and am about to double that with the opening of side two... 14:47:28 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:50:03 <simon888> they pay for themselves I guess 14:50:39 <simon888> already made 15mil from them 14:50:44 <simon888> about 20 of them 14:52:30 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:55:31 <Noldo> you guess? 14:56:27 <Rubidium> if only there was an IRC client that ignores replies to ignored people too 14:56:43 *** G_ [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 14:56:46 <simon888> Noldo, yes... I can't see the exact amount of money they are costing me or profiting me because I am making soo much from all sorts of things 14:57:24 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6E73.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 14:59:29 *** G [~nigel@202-154-152-154.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:01:50 *** Timwi [Timwi@cpc3-cmbg8-0-0-cust421.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:01:52 <Timwi> Hi 15:01:59 <Timwi> Is it possible to have computer players in a network game? 15:03:23 <ln-> You really want a computer player to ruin the game? 15:03:42 <simon888> computer players are stupid 15:03:45 <simon888> unneat 15:03:47 <simon888> and stupid 15:03:57 <Timwi> Is that a no? 15:04:11 <simon888> no matter how intel you make them they are still stupid 15:04:16 <simon888> Timwi, it is possible 15:04:20 <Timwi> How? 15:04:35 <simon888> Timwi, one of the patches iirc 15:04:41 <ln-> I don't know. I just know the computer player is annoying. 15:05:17 <glx> I think it's possible in NoAI 15:05:28 <Timwi> I've found the option 15:05:34 <Timwi> Thanks 15:07:09 <Noldo> Rubidium: what do you think, could the CommandCost class contain the expence type information too? 15:09:51 <ChrisIN> hmmm where can I fund a town? 15:10:02 <ChrisIN> no matter which location I choose it always tells me site unsuitable 15:10:08 <ChrisIN> (r10780) 15:10:10 <glx> in scenario editor? 15:10:15 <ChrisIN> no in a network game 15:10:23 <glx> you can't IIRC 15:10:38 <ChrisIN> why is it in the industries to be built then? 15:10:54 <glx> ask the patch author 15:11:01 <ChrisIN> it's no patch, it's trunk :p 15:11:15 <Prof_Frink> ChrisIN: bugs.openttd.org then 15:11:17 <glx> you can't fund town in game 15:11:24 <glx> only in editor 15:11:29 <ChrisIN> errr I was speaking of bank :p 15:11:29 <ChrisIN> sorry 15:11:43 <Noldo> :D 15:11:46 <ChrisIN> I meant I can't build a bank anywhere 15:12:02 <glx> bank should be on a house, and town must have more than 2000 people 15:12:19 <ChrisIN> grrr it has 1970 :( lol 15:12:25 <ChrisIN> ok then I know what the problem is :D 15:13:23 <Noldo> didn't it give a proper error message? 15:14:14 <ln-> if i wanted to create e.g. a big 2k×2k map which consisted of two separate islands, does the editor allow me to do that without a million mouse clicks? 15:14:20 <ChrisIN> no it just said site unsuitable 15:14:27 <ChrisIN> and I thought why why why? it's in the middle of the city 15:15:16 <glx> ln-: use an heightmap 15:19:39 <Eddi|zuHause> or modify the TGP algorithm ;) 15:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> afaik the system is prepared to add more generation algorithms 15:22:57 *** Timwi [Timwi@cpc3-cmbg8-0-0-cust421.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has quit [] 15:25:01 <ln-> another thing; when land is lowered to sea-level andthe sea slowly eats the land, the editor will still happily build new cities on those areas that are about to sink. 15:25:15 <ln-> is that funny? 15:25:34 *** ChrisIN [~Chris82@p579E0DB0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC] 15:26:51 <Noldo> the buildings stay there when the water catches them? 15:27:21 <ln-> no, they are destroyed but the name sign of the town stays there. 15:28:20 <simon888> NOOOOOOOOO 15:28:54 <simon888> I was doing some bombing 15:29:16 <simon888> for some weird reason (maybe a bug) the whole city deleted itself 15:30:03 <Noldo> hmm the temporary ignore ended, better make it permanent 15:31:36 <peter1138> dynamite 15:31:40 <peter1138> there are no bombs 15:33:16 <simon888> lol 15:33:17 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-198-069.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:33:33 <simon888> we must speak different languages 15:35:13 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40:54 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 15:45:27 <ln-> the sea should advance a lot quicker in the editor. 15:47:01 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:54:35 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:59:05 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 16:02:03 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, you and your stupid ideas 16:02:19 <Eddi|zuHause> what? 16:02:29 <Noldo> where? 16:02:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i never have stupid ideas 16:02:36 <simon888> diagonal over 2048 tiles 16:03:02 <simon888> openttd is stuck for over 5min 16:03:32 <Eddi|zuHause> then you did something wrong 16:04:55 <simon888> nah it is still trying to calculate it 16:05:12 <simon888> you must of known there is a leak when doing this 16:05:24 <simon888> and you knew I am foolish 16:07:11 <simon888> look at it... it is dieing 16:07:41 <simon888> woohoo del got me out of it 16:15:25 <simon888> "a fool and his game quickly part" 16:20:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "something wrong" as in "disregarded the warning label about big maps and CPU power" 16:27:24 <simon888> lol 16:27:26 <simon888> yeah 16:33:49 *** Ailure [Gamefreak@194.47.44.201] has joined #openttd 16:39:14 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81386.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:39:15 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:39:50 <simon888> woohoo first train arrives 16:39:54 <simon888> profit 6mil 16:40:36 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, how much do your make? 16:41:11 <Eddi|zuHause> i never lowered my style to that kind of stupid niveau... 16:41:24 <Eddi|zuHause> my networks are "realistic" 16:41:45 <simon888> lol 16:42:05 <Eddi|zuHause> besides, "6mil" means "6000" 16:42:21 <simon888> what does 6000 mean? 16:42:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and the number is totally worthless without giving a currency and an inflation level 16:43:55 <simon888> $ 16:44:27 <simon888> where do I get the inflation percent? 16:44:37 <Eddi|zuHause> usually, you don't... 16:44:42 <Noldo> Eddi|zuHause: I feel for you man, but just ignore him and we will all find inner peace 16:45:04 <Prof_Frink> simon888: It's affected by the initial interest rate option 16:45:33 <simon888> where do I get that from? 16:46:01 <Prof_Frink> difficulty settings 16:46:07 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: dinner time :9] 16:46:49 <simon888> IIRC 2% 16:47:04 <Eddi|zuHause> basically inflation level is a geometric series over the interest rate and the number of years passed 16:47:12 <simon888> but I got a 0k loan for 3 months then paid it off 16:47:34 <simon888> it has only been 3years 16:48:02 <simon888> I am towing 1500 tons of coal+ 16:48:19 <simon888> huge train 16:49:33 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@tubechallenger.railuk.org] has quit [Quit: Caught signal 15, Terminated] 16:50:06 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@81.171.98.107] has joined #openttd 16:51:23 <ln-> which probably diverges 16:51:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10793 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/newgrf_fsmports.h: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: When replacing a deleted airport, this assert triggered unnecessarily. Removed. 16:53:00 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10794 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_gui.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Orientation not initialised on re-selection of gui. 16:54:14 <simon888> ln-, nah it is going very well 16:54:37 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10795 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/newgrf.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Change: GSF_FSMPORTS now uses separate explicit Case, rather than default fallthrough. 16:56:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-165-206.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 17:00:44 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:01:23 *** HMage [HMage@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:30 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:04:45 <simon888> HMage, hi you have your own russian dialup service? 17:05:20 <HMage> nope, it's not dialup, it's broadband internet. they just forgot to change reverse dns. and I have my own hostname because I have a static IP. 17:06:46 <simon888> oh dang... I was going to say I'm peter1138's friend (the guy with the really big penis)... and like if I ever was in Russia and needed dialup if you would lend it out... heh 17:08:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10796 /branches/NewGRF_ports/bin/data/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [NewGRF_ports] -Feature: rb_airport2.grf now includes Small Airport. 17:08:56 <simon888> <simon888> peter1138, guess you have a bigger penis than everyone... 17:08:56 <simon888> <peter1138> of course i do 17:16:31 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has joined #openttd 17:20:51 <RichK67> hi 17:21:12 <Rubidium> evening RichK67 17:21:14 <RichK67> ping dalestan 17:21:43 <DaleStan> RichK67: pong 17:22:18 <RichK67> im trying to sort out station availability by date.... do you have any examples, perhaps using varaction2s and callbacks, that i can look at to adapt? 17:22:41 <Rubidium> RichK67: the orientation in the gui is not set to a value that the airport supports (commuter, select se orientation, select small airport) 17:23:00 <RichK67> Rubidium: svn up 17:23:36 <Rubidium> no changes 17:23:56 <RichK67> ah... sorry - problem in 2 places... solved one... bbiam 17:23:57 <simon888> RichK67, lots of fixes 17:30:02 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 17:30:49 <RichK67> back 17:30:49 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: richk * r10797 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/airport_gui.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Fix: Orientation needed re-initialising when airport selection changed. 17:30:56 <RichK67> Rubidium: svn up 17:31:28 <DaleStan> RichK67: Try sprites 3773, 3772, and 3770 of MB's newstations (v0.44). They set that station as unavailable until the end of 1970 (1920 + 32h). 17:31:48 <RichK67> magnificent... take a bow :) 17:35:19 <RichK67> btw, i tried using nforenum on my .nfo, and it said "unknown nfo file version 7. skipping file"... i was sure i had d/l latest... any idea? 17:36:39 <DaleStan> I think 3.4.5 is the latest, and unless something went very wrong, it supports version 7. Alternatively, decode with -xx, which will generate version 6. 17:37:15 <RichK67> thanks 17:42:02 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl7-180-129.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 17:43:17 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10798 /trunk/src/ (aircraft.h roadveh.h ship.h train.h vehicle.cpp vehicle.h): -Fix [FS#1105]: virtual functions do not work in destructors :(. 17:47:58 <Digitalfox_Notebook> RichK67: I just compiled the new_ports branch twice with BuildOTTD and it when running open, it always says airports.grf is corrupted and crashes!! The airports.grf has size of 11KB, and has far as i can see there is no reason to be corrupted :\ 17:48:45 <Digitalfox_Notebook> The message is "corrupted or not found" 17:49:04 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:49:10 <Rubidium> that's a (currently) bogus warning 17:49:12 <RichK67> Newports branch is not complete, and ive not MD5'd the changes to airports.grf, since they arent finished yet.... long way to go 17:49:12 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:49:40 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Yea i know it's not finished :) But what could cause this problem? 17:50:05 <RichK67> ive not calculated the MD5 hash on the changes i made to airports.grf 17:50:51 <Digitalfox_Notebook> ok :( 17:51:15 <RichK67> np 17:51:31 <Digitalfox_Notebook> And any workaround i can use to test the new features? 17:51:35 <Rubidium> Digitalfox_Notebook: remove opntitle.dat and see whether that works 17:51:43 <Digitalfox_Notebook> ok 17:51:49 <Rubidium> furthermore you need to add the airport newgrf 17:52:07 <RichK67> it will still warn, but should work ok 17:52:11 <glx> else you'll get a crash when trying to build an airport 17:52:52 <RichK67> btw ALL normally built airports are dead in the build... you cant load an old game, you cant save a new one... other than that, its doozy 17:54:29 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Even after moving or erasing the opentile.grf it still crashes :( I'll wait for some more developing :) 18:03:47 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 18:11:32 *** rav [~rav_nl@213-84-75-15.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 18:15:43 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl7-180-129.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 18:16:35 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:18:50 *** Eley [~Eley@c-3b4472d5.06-41-67626714.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:25:38 *** alexalex [~email@78.86.15.85] has joined #openttd 18:28:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host170-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:11 <alexalex> hi 18:28:17 <alexalex> how do i kick someone from server? 18:28:22 <alexalex> ive tried : 18:28:27 <Eley> Hi. Is there a known problem about the intelligence of there computor players? I have a little problem about this, th e stupidity is enormus even in hard. T here is no difference between easy, normal(?) and hard . They love to fill the map with road and the same with railroad . 18:28:30 <alexalex> rcon <password> kick #123 18:28:33 <alexalex> and 18:28:36 <alexalex> rcon <password> kick 123 18:28:36 <alexalex> also 18:28:40 <alexalex> rcon <password> kick name 18:28:43 <alexalex> but its not working 18:28:58 <alexalex> ive also tried IP address\ 18:29:02 <alexalex> what am i doing wrong? 18:29:29 <Noldo> Eley: Yes 18:29:48 <Priski> Eley, well that known problem and thats why there are on going developement on new AI 18:30:23 <Prof_Frink> Eley: The only difference in "intelligence" of the AIs is the bonus the recieve for their stations 18:30:27 <alexalex> obviously im using the ciorrent rcon password 18:30:32 <alexalex> but why isnt it worknig? 18:30:37 <alexalex> also, how would i clean a company? 18:32:37 <Eley> Noldo / Priski: Ahh... But I cant remember that they was that stupid in Transport Tycoon. They did build "ok". Is all the code build from ground up in openttd and only graphics the only original code? 18:33:04 *** Myon [cb@myon.netop.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:33:17 <Prof_Frink> Eley: No, they were that stupid in standard TTD 18:33:17 <Noldo> Eley: TrueBrain might know how it is for AI 18:33:45 *** Eley [~Eley@c-3b4472d5.06-41-67626714.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 18:34:00 *** Eley [~Eley@c-3b4472d5.06-41-67626714.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 18:34:14 *** Myon [cb@myon.netop.oftc.net] has left #openttd [] 18:34:20 <Eley> Backspace in browser window isnt a good thing. :) 18:35:17 <Wezz6400> it makes you go back to the previous page ;) 18:35:53 <alexalex> um 18:35:59 <alexalex> how do i kick someone? 18:36:05 <alexalex> its not working with i try with 18:36:17 <alexalex> rcon <password> kick #123 or 123 or name or ip address 18:36:34 <Eley> In old TT (And TTD) the computors did put more then one train at the tracks and the companies was worth more then 1 USD (I have seen one computor that did was worth more then that.) 18:36:46 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B076CB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:37:01 <Eddi|zuHause> alexalex: tried 'rcon <pw> "kick <number>"'? 18:37:14 <Eley> Wezz6400: Im sitting in a java IRC thing in the browser. :) backspace = exit 18:37:25 <Wezz6400> Eley yikes 18:37:29 <Prof_Frink> Eley: That's partly because the company value no longer includes the loan 18:37:48 <Eddi|zuHause> Eley: the AI got worse because the game logic changed, and nobody understood the AI to keep it up with the changes 18:38:18 <Eley> Ahh... 18:38:20 *** smoovi [~smoovi@dslb-088-073-096-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:38:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that's why there's going to be a complete rewrite of the AI 18:38:44 <alexalex> how do you clean a company?? 18:38:58 <Rubidium> resetcompany 18:39:36 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:39:42 <alexalex> hmmm and how do you list compnays? 18:40:02 <Rubidium> type help 18:40:37 <alexalex> that doesnt liost it 18:40:42 <Eley> Thanks... 18:41:12 <Rubidium> alexalex: it does 18:41:32 <Rubidium> just with a name you wouldn't expect 18:41:49 <Rubidium> as multiplayer originally was 1 player per company 18:41:55 <alexalex> nope it doesnt show commands 18:42:02 <alexalex> just console help 18:42:20 <Rubidium> have you read it? 18:42:30 <Wezz6400> list_cmds or listcmds or something does doesn't it? 18:43:25 <Rubidium> the same command help says to run to list all commands 18:43:33 <alexalex> ive read it three times over 18:43:48 <alexalex> oh 18:43:50 <alexalex> im blinde 18:44:16 <Eley> OpenTTD... The good thing = a great game The bad thing = Time just disappears. 4-5h isnt a problem to play this game. If you dont have any food at home = play OpenTTD and then go to bed and then eat at work the next morning. :) 18:44:58 <Wezz6400> Eley that's just sick... 18:45:01 <Wezz6400> and true :( 18:46:06 <Eley> I have done that two times this week. 18:46:21 <Eley> Even if the "food store" is 200 meters away. 18:48:14 <Prof_Frink> Eley: You have to learn to phone the pizza place 18:49:07 <Eley> Prof_Frink: "Pizza store" (crappy english) is even closer, 100 meter. 18:49:30 <Eley> I have had a lazy week. 18:49:42 <peter1138> then they'll be able to deliver quickly :D 18:49:47 <simon888> MY JUICE! 18:50:10 <simon888> fhew 18:50:32 <simon888> glad to see everyone was so panicing they didn't talk till I told them its okay 18:52:13 <Eley> peter1138: Yep, but the quality of them is crappy. But another pizza place is 200 meter away, and the same with burger king but that "food" just taste like crap. Cant even understand that people like that "food". 18:52:41 <Eley> simon888: You where the only op and did remove the mute from the channel? 18:53:31 <simon888> 0__o 18:56:17 <Eley> :) 18:58:34 <Eley> TV time! About Europe over its development over hundreds of millions of years. 18:59:24 <simon888> meh Europe was born in the Middle East 19:00:07 <simon888> stop fucking with it so there might be some history left by the time you come looking for it 19:00:31 <simon888> stop it with your stupid peace talks where the public doesn't agree 19:01:02 <flex_> god bless america! 19:02:33 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 19:02:50 <alexalex> simon888: you live in america? 19:02:56 <simon888> no 19:02:59 <alexalex> aussie.... 19:03:05 <simon888> no 19:03:17 <alexalex> china? 19:03:20 <alexalex> simon888 (~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au) 19:03:27 <alexalex> australian ip address 19:03:52 <simon888> austria :P 19:03:59 <simon888> naaa. I live all over the world 19:04:02 <alexalex> nice try 19:04:13 <alexalex> did you know Australia was development by slaves and criminals? 19:04:23 <alexalex> and today, it has one of the lowest IQ's per capita? 19:04:28 <simon888> Hong Kong, Australia, etc. 19:04:31 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@xDSL-45-77.citynetnassjo.se] has joined #openttd 19:04:58 <simon888> alexalex, israel has the highest IQ per capita. 19:05:29 <Priski> jews are smart, no denying that 19:05:48 <alexalex> simon888, im not talking about the highest 19:05:53 <alexalex> im talking about the lowest. 19:05:59 <alexalex> the bottom of the barrel 19:06:03 <alexalex> the scum of the planet 19:06:12 <simon888> and it was started by nation divided all over the world. 19:06:16 <alexalex> opps, did i push too far across the line? 19:06:20 <Priski> alexalex, well he is one of them, how the hell would he understand that? 19:06:22 <peter1138> hull? 19:06:27 <Priski> :) 19:06:36 <simon888> Priski, I am not Australian 19:06:52 <simon888> Priski, right now it would be the middle of the night in Australia 19:07:00 <Priski> and? 19:07:08 <simon888> I am always online during this time slot 19:07:23 <alexalex> simon888, cool where you from? 19:07:42 <simon888> alexalex, MidEast 19:07:44 <alexalex> simon888: and actually its around 5am sydney time atm 19:08:02 <alexalex> simon888: bouncing irc throught a australian connection? 19:08:20 <peter1138> mmm latency 19:08:20 <simon888> no, I am currently in Australia 19:08:29 <simon888> but going to the other side of the world soon 19:08:47 <simon888> so adjusting my times 19:09:08 <simon888> plus I never adjusted to Australia 19:25:30 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 19:34:31 <alexalex> hwo do i list companies? i have someone who ihas disconnected and i need to reset his company 19:34:48 <alexalex> but i cant seem to find which company name he is 19:34:55 <alexalex> sorry company number 19:36:41 <alexalex> `wtf 19:36:45 <alexalex> i cant reset this company 19:36:49 <alexalex> im typing: 19:37:00 <alexalex> rcon password reset_company 1 19:37:10 <alexalex> ive also tried: rcon password reser_company #1 19:37:11 <alexalex> and 19:37:16 <alexalex> rcon password 'reset_company 1' 19:37:28 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@pc25.host7.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 19:37:28 <glx> 'players' 19:37:33 <alexalex> but its giving me syntax error.... whats the correct syntax? 19:38:14 <alexalex> wtf, im putting in the company number\ 19:38:18 <alexalex> why is it not working? 19:38:39 <alexalex> same thing happens when i try and ban this guy 19:38:49 <alexalex> whats the correct syntax? 19:39:22 <glx> <alexalex> rcon password 'reset_company 1' <-- it is the correct syntax IIRC 19:39:39 <peter1138> mmm, rhubarb crumble 19:39:47 <glx> maybe use quotes instead 19:40:01 <peter1138> "mmm, rhubarb crumble" 19:40:47 <alexalex> `it says command or varible not found 19:40:50 <alexalex> im typing: 19:40:59 <alexalex> rcon password 'reset_company #1' 19:41:12 <alexalex> and without the # 19:41:40 <Prof_Frink> peter1138: Why did you abandon us? 19:42:13 <alexalex> anyone? 19:42:22 <alexalex> can someone please help why isnt this syntax working? 19:42:28 <alexalex> im need to get rid of this guy 19:42:32 <glx> you have set a rcon password? 19:42:44 <alexalex> yes rcon is fine 19:42:49 <alexalex> syntax is wrong 19:43:06 <alexalex> his ip is 90.196.2.129 19:43:10 <alexalex> company 1 19:43:12 <alexalex> name player 19:43:18 <alexalex> how do i get rid of him/ 19:43:19 <alexalex> ? 19:43:35 <glx> try with quotes 19:43:39 <Prof_Frink> peter1138! AdminGUI! 19:43:55 <alexalex> glx: the whole command? 19:44:08 <glx> rcon password "reset_company 1" 19:46:00 <alexalex> that worked 19:46:24 <glx> help rcon should have tell it :) 19:46:27 <alexalex> maybe a fix on the syntax would be in order, instead of mentioning single quote 19:46:32 <alexalex> it says single quote 19:46:34 <alexalex> not double 19:46:46 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code is a psychopath who knows where you live.] 19:46:50 <glx> it says "Remember to enclose the command in quotes" 19:47:00 <glx> and quotes are usually double 19:51:30 <Prof_Frink> Well, double quotes are normally double 19:51:35 <Prof_Frink> single quotes are not 19:51:57 <glx> and quotes without attribute? 19:52:13 <Prof_Frink> And then there's crazy people with their ``foo'' notation 19:52:29 <Prof_Frink> Whichever you feel like at the time 19:56:43 <Wolf01> just one question: is possible to use a file instead of the ram for ottd? 19:56:57 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B076CB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57:09 <glx> Wolf01: you want to slow down the game? 19:57:26 <Wolf01> mmmh 19:57:29 <Wolf01> i know 19:57:35 *** arcil [~arcil@p5B076CB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:57:38 <Wolf01> but if i don't have enough memory? 19:57:49 <glx> use smaller map 19:57:56 <Prof_Frink> Wolf01: Your OS should handle swapping itself 19:58:40 <Wolf01> i don't know if the nintendo DS can handle swap by itself 19:59:41 <simon888> <Myon> alexalex: try to hit enter less often 20:00:45 <Eley> simon888: What did you mean with middle east and piece talk? I was talking about the birth of the land, how the continental plates has moved around, how the salt and coal did make it in to the ground (sea water and enormus forests) for over millions of years. 20:01:49 *** HMage [Queneex@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: HMage] 20:02:12 <simon888> Eley, Rice and Gang are having peace talks in between Israel and the Arab enemies. Yet Israel nor its enemies have a standard of disagreement. 20:02:27 <simon888> Such talks in a democracy which will only last 4 years is useless 20:03:11 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178230200.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:03:42 <simon888> First get the groups to establish their disagreement before you start trying to make an agreement or else you are only agreeing in between the parties sitting around the table who are surely outnumbered by their respected publics 20:04:16 <simon888> s/is/are 20:04:19 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #openttd 20:04:36 <aneb> i'd like to run a openttd server. 20:04:43 <aneb> where do oi start 20:04:52 <Eley> aneb: read the wiki? 20:05:07 <simon888> aneb, click mutliplayer 20:05:21 <aneb> where? 20:05:32 <simon888> in the main menu 20:05:38 <simon888> or start menu 20:06:07 <aneb> what about a dedicated server without the GUI? 20:06:13 <glx> openttd -D 20:06:56 <simon888> aneb, what operating system? 20:07:04 <glx> simon888: doesn't matter 20:07:15 <aneb> simon888: linux 20:07:41 <simon888> glx, just wanted to know... to see the type of exposure the person has... 20:08:07 <aneb> simon888: i said linux 20:08:38 <simon888> aneb, run that command. Before hand you are going to want to set up your settings... see the wiki 20:09:08 <aneb> Do i need to install the game files? 20:09:18 <aneb> i mean ttd game files 20:09:20 <glx> yes you need TTD files 20:09:53 <aneb> for the server? 20:09:59 <glx> yes 20:10:26 <aneb> why? 20:10:30 <Eley> simon888: Oki. I dont want to go in and discuss that because of the whole situation and how it was created. 20:11:18 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 20:11:28 <aneb> glx: as that doesnt really make sense 20:11:43 <glx> it does if you know the internal of openttd 20:13:18 <aneb> glx: i dont v 20:13:21 <simon888> Eley, I understand. I am just saying there are many views out there not being spoke on the table. Some of these views have a bigger share of the public and in a democratic society talks without such views being represented will lead to no where. 20:15:50 <aneb> which ver do i want? 20:16:12 <aneb> 0.5.2 or 0.5.3 rc? 20:16:27 <glx> your choice ;) 20:16:32 <simon888> or nightly 20:16:47 <simon888> new one should of got built recently 20:18:10 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:17 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 20:21:53 <simon888> from #debian 20:22:07 <simon888> aneb, what debian version are you using? 20:22:21 <aneb> simon888: i'm using ubuntu 20:22:35 <simon888> sight 20:23:10 <simon888> next time don't come into debian if your problem is with ubuntu. Ubuntu does some very weird things. 20:23:23 <aneb> simon888: erm, its not ubuntu 20:23:43 <aneb> simon888: i think i'll do an apt-get update to fix, hold 20:24:02 <aneb> simon888: ah: 20:24:18 <simon888> what ubuntu version? 20:24:19 <aneb> simon888: the root of the error was that i interrupted dpkg 20:25:16 <aneb> simon888: i ran that command, but it stops. hmmm. 20:25:36 <simon888> what ubuntu version? 20:25:38 <aneb> simon888: ubuntu 7.04 on the server which i'm sshed into 20:25:44 <simon888> ok 20:25:51 <simon888> apt-get install openttd 20:26:23 <aneb> what is the -2 version for then i wonder 20:26:55 <aneb> i'll look, i think i saw something related to debian on the news page 20:27:31 <aneb> ah ok 20:27:56 <aneb> so let me get this straight 20:28:21 <aneb> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install openttd 20:28:21 <aneb> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. 20:28:48 <aneb> sudo dpkg --configure -a gives 20:28:57 <aneb> . 20:28:58 <aneb> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install openttd 20:28:58 <aneb> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. 20:29:00 <aneb> er 20:29:04 <aneb> sry 20:29:09 <aneb> kyle@kyle-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a 20:29:09 <aneb> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0017' near line 31 package `xfonts-100dpi': 20:29:09 <aneb> EOF after field name `' 20:29:26 <aneb> sry for the flood 20:30:05 <glx> it's easier to get the source and "./configure && make" 20:30:06 <aneb> simon888: its not ubuntu thats the problem.... 20:30:29 <Prof_Frink> aneb: Your system is a tad fooked 20:30:37 <glx> aneb: AFAIK it works on debian 20:30:40 <aneb> glx: but theres no integration, and i cant install anything w/ apt-get 20:30:48 <simon888> aneb, your system is broken 20:30:57 <Rubidium> then there's something wrong with the xfonts-100dpi installer script, which causes the install process to abort and "locks" it until you've fixed the installer 20:31:02 <simon888> aneb, goto #ubuntu on freenode for help 20:31:06 <Rubidium> or found a way to fix it 20:31:50 <aneb> Rubidium: it probably was me, although thats a certain possibility 20:32:19 <aneb> ok wait 20:32:30 <simon888> aneb, alternatively just download a pre compiled tarball to your home directory and use it from there 20:32:41 <simon888> no need to "install" it 20:32:50 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:33:03 <aneb> i have a idea. after apt-get update downloads the updates, it runs dpkg. So the problem is in dpkg 20:33:05 <Prof_Frink> ...but you really should fix the problem with dpkg anyway 20:33:28 <simon888> aneb, linux doesn't work like that 20:33:38 <simon888> aneb, it isn't simple building blocks 20:33:41 <aneb> simon888: you're wrong 20:33:43 <simon888> its all a mess. 20:34:02 *** lolman [~lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:34:03 <Prof_Frink> aneb: Did you use... Automatix? 20:34:17 <aneb> Prof_Frink: no, never have, never will 20:34:40 <Prof_Frink> Damn, that would have been a nice thing to blame the problem on 20:36:12 <aneb> i don't know what the dpkg problem is. i have a error message, but thats it. 20:36:35 <Prof_Frink> I'd go to #ubuntu on freenode and ask 20:36:37 <aneb> and i removed X11, so maybe ... ? 20:37:31 <glx> hmm openttd package needs X and sdl I think 20:37:35 <aneb> xfonts-100dpi is a X11 package, so maybe there was a partial remove 20:37:52 <aneb> glx: the error message is from dpkg. 20:38:23 <simon888> aneb, get #ubuntu to help you before you break more stuff 20:38:48 <simon888> aneb, the problem can't simply be fixed by apt stuff away and back 20:38:49 <aneb> why should i get them to help me 20:39:01 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:09 <simon888> because they are #ubuntu and we are #openttd 20:39:20 <aneb> simon888: i know. this is a problem with dpkg 20:39:39 <simon888> ubuntu has done funny things with dpkg 20:40:05 <simon888> the problem is with the package 20:40:09 <simon888> not dpkg 20:40:26 <simon888> the package system is not perfect and sometimes breaks 20:40:54 <simon888> it needs manual maintenance 20:41:09 <simon888> not everything can be automated with dpkg and apt 20:41:13 <simon888> they are not AI 20:41:39 <simon888> they are tools that most of the time work 20:42:17 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Life is a game of pick-up-sticks, played by fucking lunatics.] 20:43:01 <aneb> simon888: i don't believe you because when i was removing x11, something happened that corrupted the dpkg file. maybe a reboot... or whatever. i'm getting help now in #ubuntu please drop the topic thank you. 20:43:04 *** aneb [~kyle@d235-141-30.home1.cgocable.net] has left #openttd [] 20:44:24 <simon888> guess I came out too rough 20:47:04 *** Eley [~Eley@c-3b4472d5.06-41-67626714.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #openttd [] 20:51:20 <Ammler> Hi, we have 11 players on our server, how is that possible? 20:51:51 <glx> max player is 8 20:53:20 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 20:54:59 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:56:37 <simon888> Ammler, some are watching? 20:57:25 <glx> simon888: but the max client is 10, so having 11 is theorically impossible 20:57:52 <Ammler> :) we had it 20:57:57 <Ammler> not the first time 20:58:09 <simon888> Ammler, base 2? 20:58:17 <glx> did they join at the same time? 20:58:18 <Ammler> (at #openttdcoop) 20:58:32 <Ammler> jep 20:58:57 <Ammler> but that mean to me, it would be possilbe to rise this limit, wouldn't? 21:01:11 <Ammler> or why does this limit exists? 21:01:57 *** alexalex [~email@78.86.15.85] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20070730)] 21:01:59 <Rubidium> why raise the limit if making it limitless is better? 21:02:07 <Eddi|zuHause> the 10 clients limit is probably purely artificial 21:02:21 <glx> Eddi|zuHause: as most limits ;) 21:02:24 <Eddi|zuHause> just that nobody had the time to review what comes along with removing it 21:02:35 *** Thomas[NL] [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02:39 <Eddi|zuHause> s/had/took/ 21:03:46 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, you have the time take it 21:14:51 <Eddi|zuHause> you have absolutely no idea about my time 21:15:19 <Rubidium> still talking to simon or whatever he's called? 21:16:01 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 21:17:46 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-230-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 21:17:49 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-230-183.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 21:21:13 *** Zr40 [~zr40@zr40.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 21:21:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10799 /trunk/src/ (15 files): -Fix: only calling QuickFree and not the destructor on pool cleanups might cause memory leaks due to the way C++ works. 21:21:59 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 21:34:10 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: I have better things to do than talk to you guys. :P] 21:36:26 <Progman> as there are a lot of OLD_POOL stuff, will be the pool-system replaced? 21:37:19 <glx> it will one day 21:37:48 <Progman> where is the new one? 21:41:31 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:43:35 <Rubidium> not finished yet 21:50:32 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:57 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has joined #openttd 21:56:19 *** helb [~helb@84.244.90.159] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:02:31 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A52F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:07:30 <RichK67> woooooooo.... TACKAS is back :) 22:07:55 <RichK67> (the Artist currently known as Skidd13) 22:08:45 <skidd13> Whats up? 22:11:15 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 22:12:13 <simon888> cows 22:12:17 <skidd13> RichK67: Nice work with the newgrf-ports :) Good to see my runway numbers in action. 22:12:38 <RichK67> yup... and on the small airport too! 22:14:20 * skidd13 checks out the current newgrf_port branch 22:14:55 <Wolf01> 'night 22:14:59 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host162-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:16:39 <Ammler> Rubidium or Eddi|zuHause, could you remove the client limit in one of the next nightly, we (#openttdcoop) will test it then ;) 22:17:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i have no influence whatsoever about what happens in the next nightly... 22:17:48 <Rubidium> removing the limit is not that hard 22:17:56 <Rubidium> making it work, that's the hard part 22:22:26 *** Netsplit cation.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: Dark_Link^, Progman, CIA-1, Frostregen, XeryusTC, Brianetta, _Ben_, Tefad, mikegrb, Vikthor, (+16 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 22:22:37 <skidd13> RichK67: There's something wrong with the preview of the small airport. Action colors are used. :) 22:23:07 *** KritiK [Maxim@ppp85-141-225-46.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:23:20 <skidd13> Ohh. Damn. Who killed the server. 22:23:37 *** Netsplit over, joins: G_, mikegrb, lolman, XeryusTC, Smoovious, DaleStan, Dark_Link^, Brianetta, Ammler, simon888 (+16 more) 22:24:33 <Eddi|zuHause> i think it was simon<random_number> 22:24:49 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 22:24:55 <skidd13> :) 22:25:14 <simon888> I missed something 22:25:30 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, its no random number 22:25:31 <Eddi|zuHause> *waves hand* no, you did not 22:25:37 <simon888> 444 or 888 22:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause> it's still "Random(2)*444" 22:26:04 <simon888> <Ammler> Rubidium or Eddi|zuHause, could you remove the client limit in one of the next nightly, we (#openttdcoop) will test it then ;) 22:26:05 <simon888> ... 22:26:12 <simon888> <Eddi|zuHause> i think it was simon<random_number> 22:26:42 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i think he has not seen star wars either... 22:26:43 <RichK67> skidd13: yeah, MeusH said it was possible... its cos he used anti-aliasing... little bit of cleanup... nice and easy 22:27:00 <simon888> Eddi|zuHause, only once 22:27:06 <simon888> or twice 22:27:14 <RichK67> these are not the bugs you are looking for ;) 22:27:40 <Eddi|zuHause> simon888: there were some great jokes about this in south park 22:27:54 <simon888> south park? 22:28:34 <Eddi|zuHause> and a cool scene in one of the last episodes of "Andromeda", where Romy waves her hand and says "We are not the droids that you seek." 22:29:23 <Eddi|zuHause> (again, the quote is not literal, but back-translated) 22:35:57 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Tschüß] 22:43:04 <skidd13> 'night 22:43:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A52F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:46:45 *** simon444 [~simon@203-214-137-16.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:53:10 *** simon888 [~simon@210-84-47-31.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:59:15 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CF98.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:28 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 23:01:05 <Nickman> hi all 23:06:41 *** RichK67 [~RichK67@194.164.100.143] has quit [Quit: RichK67] 23:07:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10800 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/ (5 files): [NewGRF_ports] -Add: saving of FSMblockmaps. 23:07:20 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 23:07:47 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C5BB.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 23:18:18 *** lolman [lolman@cpc3-leds2-0-0-cust55.leed.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:22:55 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:58 <Xintron> How do I build one way signals? 23:23:52 <Xintron> nvm :) 23:26:28 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:27:07 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:31:23 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r10801 /branches/NewGRF_ports/src/station_cmd.cpp: [NewGRF_ports] -Add: saving of layout_set and orientation 23:44:16 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:46:12 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )]