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00:03:36 <Greyscale> How do I replace an old bus? 00:04:39 <glx> sell the old, buy the new 00:04:44 <glx> or use autoreplace 00:04:57 <Tekky> there are two ways I know of.... either use autoreplace or send the vehicle to a depot and do it manually. 00:05:07 <Greyscale> autoreplace? 00:05:08 <Greyscale> How? 00:05:43 <Tekky> autoreplace only works if you have enough money. You can configure it in the patches window. 00:05:46 <glx> vehicle list, hold "manage list", select "replace" 00:06:00 <glx> Tekky: that's autorenew 00:06:32 <Tekky> oh... ah, yes.... 00:06:57 <glx> but maybe that's what Greyscale wants :) 00:07:21 <Greyscale> learn something every day 00:07:30 <Greyscale> I want to upgrade my rickety old crap 00:07:43 <Tekky> Greyscale, do you want to replace an old vehicle with an identical new one? Or do you want to replace an older model of a bus with a newer model? 00:08:12 <Tekky> ah, you want to upgrade.... for that you should use autoreplace, as glx said. 00:08:22 <Greyscale> upgrade the crappy old busses 00:08:42 <Greyscale> does it stagger-upgrade them? 00:10:17 <Greyscale> Why oh why is my friend's cele 1.6 heavilly loaded on a 2048x2048 map and my PPC 300Mhz is dandy on a 1024x2048 map? 00:11:10 <glx> ships and yapf maybe 00:11:27 <Greyscale> neither has ships yet 00:11:29 <Greyscale> yapf? 00:11:44 <Greyscale> and the PPC has a more complex network 00:13:24 <Bjarni> I once tested an 800 MHz G4 against a 1,2 GHz pentium. The G4 was faster at playing DivX 00:13:36 <Bjarni> 1 Hz PPC != 1 Hz x86 00:13:50 <Bjarni> but 00:13:50 <glx> CISC != RISC 00:14:23 <Bjarni> 1,6 vs 300.... we should have known which one would be the fastest in that test 00:15:19 <Greyscale> Damn. Dash diesel has no electric replacement 00:15:23 <Greyscale> does it get one in the future? 00:15:33 <Greyscale> (I'm at 2021) 00:15:51 <glx> electric rail? 00:16:19 * Bjarni detects a user input error 00:16:20 <Greyscale> yeah 00:16:23 <Bjarni> at least I think so 00:16:39 <Greyscale> There are no EMU's in this game. I complained earlier. 00:16:40 <Greyscale> :| 00:16:42 <Bjarni> you should be able to replace diesel to electric without any problems 00:16:52 <glx> use newgrfs 00:16:53 <Greyscale> But there is no Dash diesel replacement 00:16:57 <Greyscale> glx, which? 00:17:00 <Bjarni> ahh, like that 00:17:03 <Greyscale> glx, what? 00:17:07 <Greyscale> glx, explain? 00:17:10 <Greyscale> :{ 00:17:12 <Greyscale> :P 00:17:17 <Greyscale> I know nothing it seems D: 00:17:25 <Bjarni> http://grfcrawler.tt-forums.net 00:17:41 *** Tobin_ [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:18:42 <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/index.php/Newgrf <-- outdated as it says nothing about the newgrf window 00:19:17 <glx> so to make it simple: 00:19:37 <glx> download the grf and put it in data 00:19:47 <glx> open the newgrf window 00:19:55 <glx> add the grf 00:19:57 <Greyscale> with grf's, does it run WITH the current ones or are they replaced? 00:20:08 <glx> they are replaced 00:20:08 <Greyscale> and if it is on the server, do clients download them? 00:20:13 <Greyscale> (if not, why not?) 00:20:19 <Sionide> that would be a sweet ass patch 00:20:32 <Greyscale> damn. It'd be cool if you could collect all kinds of trains 00:20:36 <Greyscale> yes, it would 00:20:36 <glx> and clients need the same grfs 00:20:48 <Greyscale> damn. 00:20:53 <Greyscale> Patch is required :P 00:21:00 <Greyscale> If I knew my shit I'd go for it 00:21:09 <glx> too much work :) 00:21:16 <glx> maybe one day 00:21:18 <Greyscale> well it downloads the map 00:21:21 <Nickman> goodnight all 00:21:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> the clients only need to have the file, it gets activated automatically 00:21:37 <Greyscale> it may as well download the grfs and apply them while its there 00:21:44 <glx> will never happen 00:21:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> copyright issues 00:21:54 <Greyscale> Eddi|zuHause2, why? 00:22:07 <Greyscale> Its not actually containing anything copyright itself 00:22:15 <Greyscale> it is a mode of copying a file from A to B 00:22:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> each grf file is copyright protected 00:22:43 <Greyscale> Then have "Do you agree to this licence" and wack a licence in with the grf 00:23:01 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Solong, and thanks for all the fish.] 00:23:02 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 00:23:03 <Greyscale> somefile.grf and somefile.licence 00:23:06 <glx> each grf has it's own licence 00:23:32 <Greyscale> Makes me wish I knew C now 00:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's also other issues, like having outdated versions circling around 00:23:50 <Greyscale> if the server has it, it doesn't matter 00:23:55 <Greyscale> just download whatever the server has 00:23:55 <glx> and users complaining about grf bugs 00:24:05 <Greyscale> less fiddling, more it-just-works 00:24:09 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493C809.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 00:24:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> it may have bugs that were long fixed 00:24:20 <Greyscale> server maintainers responcibility 00:25:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> the server owner might not even notice that there is a new version out 00:25:30 <Bjarni> I have a lot of grf files in my shared data dir. Should solve client/server issues if you just dump all of them in there 00:25:47 <Greyscale> eddi, and? 00:25:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> but he will, if people report that they cannot join with their new version, and cannot get the old version anywher 00:25:53 <Greyscale> still the server maintainers fault. 00:25:57 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493C809.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 00:26:08 <Greyscale> Eddi|zuHause2, doesn't matter, the clients pull it from the server 00:26:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> they don't, that is exactly the point 00:26:29 <glx> Greyscale: anyway it will never happen 00:26:32 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:26:43 <Greyscale> so the server has it and hands it out to all the users who try to connect without it 00:26:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> the grf author has full control that he is the only person the people get the grf from 00:26:52 <Greyscale> glx, you saying that makes me want to learn C++ 00:27:27 <Greyscale> then that responcibility to get the grf's owner's permission to redistribute is that of the server maintainers. 00:27:37 <glx> you can code it if you want but it will never be in openttd 00:27:49 <Greyscale> Its damn well making me want to. 00:27:59 <Bjarni> it would make little sense to code if the server will not contain the code 00:28:16 <Bjarni> both ends should be able to handle a grf transfer for a patch to be useful 00:28:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> the issue has been discussed so often... 00:28:53 <Eddi|zuHause2> and every time it was decided that it is not going to happen 00:29:07 <Bjarni> with the grf window and the ability to use subdirs and stuff in data and a shared data dir, I don't see the problem 00:29:17 <Bjarni> you can just put every single grf file in there if you like 00:30:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> the only thing that _might_ have a chance of happening, is that you get a link to grfcrawler from within openttd, but that adds a lot of unnecessary dependencies 00:30:46 <glx> and not all grfs are in grfcrawler 00:31:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> that is a whole other issue :) 00:38:30 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.117.217] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20070730)] 00:54:55 *** KageDragon [~a@69-17-144-254.kingkom.com] has joined #openttd 00:55:21 <Bjarni> goodnight 00:55:23 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:03:59 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:10:02 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-129-139.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:31:37 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75625.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:38:08 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76769.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:54:51 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 02:08:20 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-28-36.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:25:40 <Greyscale> What do the little red/yellow/green balls in the train list mean? 02:26:14 <Greyscale> and what happens if I run a train beyond its lifetime? 02:30:11 <ThePizzaKing> Are they the profit indicators? 02:30:19 <ThePizzaKing> Green is good 02:30:22 <ThePizzaKing> Red is bad 02:31:18 <ThePizzaKing> Orange is average 02:31:26 <ThePizzaKing> Grey is 'the train is too young to tell' 02:32:18 <ThePizzaKing> And running a train beyond its lifetime causes its reliability to decrease (which means nothing if you have breakdowns disabled) 02:44:48 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493C809.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 02:49:50 <Greyscale> ThePizzaKing, means nothing then :P 02:55:24 <ThePizzaKing> Though, I think if you want really high ratings on your stations, you need to have a newish carriage/vehicle servicing it regularly 02:56:18 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:57:19 *** Tobin_ [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 02:58:04 *** orudge [~orudge@91.84.56.243] has joined #openttd 02:58:05 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 03:04:09 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:08:26 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB6866.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:08:34 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180064099.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:14:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6B9F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54:51 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB6866.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai^2] 04:00:23 *** KageDragon [~a@69-17-144-254.kingkom.com] has left #openttd [] 04:14:33 <Greyscale> WTF 04:14:45 <Greyscale> All the trains are missing from the build panel 04:15:32 <Greyscale> Aah, can't buy diesels 04:21:52 <Greyscale> Feature request: Underground stops. 04:22:20 <Greyscale> Because trying to wedge railway stations into packed in already-grown city's without leveling entire blocks is a sonofabitch 04:22:46 <Greyscale> like, a 7 square station underground with a 1 square "head" on the surface would be kickass. 04:29:00 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 04:29:20 <Sacro> mmm, i can render :D 04:30:14 * Sacro ponders where everyone is 04:37:35 <De_Ghost> subway? 04:39:12 <_Ben_> hmm, 32 lego bits done. Time for bed now. http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/ben_robbins_/legobits.png?t=1188016709 04:45:12 <Sacro> _Ben_: what you done? 04:45:18 <Sacro> just layed em out and rendered them? 04:45:31 <_Ben_> modelled them... 04:45:35 <Sacro> :o 04:45:41 <Sacro> hate to say this 04:45:47 <Sacro> but you can import them into blender 04:46:08 <_Ben_> ha, thats ok, I actually made them slightly higher detail so I can use them for somethign else I'm doing 04:46:17 <Sacro> well 04:46:23 <Sacro> i assume you can render at a very high level 04:46:28 <Sacro> but i don't know how to use blender 04:46:56 <_Ben_> I've modelled the underneath sections as well, I'm not shore what the detail is like on the ones that you say can be inported 04:47:05 <Sacro> hmmm 04:47:07 <Sacro> i didn't look 04:47:36 <_Ben_> oh ewll, it was a good way to waste the evening, if there of use to anyone on the forum there there, if not, oh well! 04:47:38 <_Ben_> anyway, night 04:47:42 <Sacro> :) night 04:48:55 <Noldo> morning 05:19:04 <Greyscale> De_Ghost, yeah 05:19:17 <Greyscale> called the "London Underground" here... or "The tube" 05:19:34 <Greyscale> the internet may not be made of tubes, but london's transport network is 05:21:36 * Greyscale waits for "... its not?" 05:51:29 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B75625.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:52:53 *** BTH__ [~BTH@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:13:14 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 06:37:27 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C9EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 06:44:43 *** raimar3 [~hawk@p5489D227.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:48:43 *** Greyscale_ [~Greyscale@host86-134-222-73.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 06:50:23 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:51:54 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-134-222-24.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:26 *** jonty-comp [jonty@marttila.de] has joined #openttd 07:13:11 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:15:14 <jonty-comp> Hi guys, quick query about setting up a dedicated server 07:15:32 <jonty-comp> I keep getting this: 07:15:33 <jonty-comp> [net] [server] could not start network: bind() failed 07:16:04 <jonty-comp> It's never happened before on the same computer, but I haven't run one in a while so it might be to do with the nightly 07:19:06 <guru3> sounds like you might already have an copy running or something using the port already 07:19:31 <jonty-comp> Hmm, well I'm not 07:19:35 <jonty-comp> Maybe another user is 07:19:38 * jonty-comp does some fiddling 07:20:04 <guru3> actually, looking at the bind manpage 07:20:29 *** Lachie [~fake@CPE-58-168-117-127.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:20:33 <jonty-comp> If I change it from the default port, it will still advertise on the masterserver right? 07:20:44 <guru3> it should, i think 07:20:52 * Lachie pokes jonty-comp in the eye 07:21:02 <Lachie> how goes our bug? 07:21:03 <guru3> tcp is for the game, udp is the query protocol 07:21:47 <guru3> really though, bind should return an error code that tells you what's wrong 07:21:53 <guru3> it shouldn't just fail by itself 07:21:53 <Lachie> hmmm 07:22:16 <jonty-comp> Ok, I'll change the port and try 07:22:48 <jonty-comp> Ah, I think it might have worked 07:22:54 <guru3> that's good 07:22:55 * jonty-comp loads up OTTD locally 07:23:45 <Lachie> awesome 07:24:00 <jonty-comp> Yay, it has worked 07:24:03 <jonty-comp> thanks for that 07:24:19 <Lachie> cheers, guru3, you saved us alot of trouble. 07:24:28 <guru3> np 07:27:00 <guru3> anyone know if there's an RC build for OS X? 07:27:25 <guru3> ah, there is 07:27:38 * guru3 mutters about sf dl pages 07:32:45 <guru3> welllll 07:32:52 <guru3> RC3 just crashed on my mac :< 07:36:35 <jonty-comp> Funny, I think it was RC3 that crashed on my MacOS the other day 07:36:56 <jonty-comp> Everyone told me it was because it was running on a PC, but maybe that's not the case :P 07:37:30 <Lachie> aren't the RCs actually pretty unstable this time around? 07:37:31 <guru3> it did it when i tried to join a server 07:37:42 <guru3> alas, no multi-player ttd for me 07:55:12 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 08:01:50 *** Lachie [~fake@CPE-58-168-117-127.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:07:54 <Rubidium> hmm, RC3 is out? What did I miss? 08:11:39 <guru3> i have no clue 08:13:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB48.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:14:24 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493EAD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:21:21 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493EAD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 08:23:45 *** Phazorx [PACO@CPE0011d8690c25-CM001225db7ae8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 08:29:04 *** Greyscale_ [~Greyscale@host86-134-222-73.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:54 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 08:50:35 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6E7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:57:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75FA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 08:59:48 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.191] has joined #openttd 08:59:48 *** Desolator [Desolator@82.79.212.191] has quit [] 09:02:00 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:05:29 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 09:06:44 <Nickman> hi all 09:10:38 <skidd13> hi 09:11:37 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 09:14:16 *** raimar2 [~hawk@p5489C9EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17:00 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6E7B.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 09:41:42 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-28-36.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:45:59 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 09:50:20 *** kurtisnelson [kurtisnels@user-0c6ti83.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:50:50 *** kurtisnelson [kurtisnels@user-0c6ti83.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 09:51:00 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:51:18 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:52:06 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-28-36.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:56:09 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 10:00:03 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-28-36.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:02 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 10:04:34 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B817BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:06:05 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80390.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:06:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:25:47 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-200-62.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 10:31:18 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-28-36.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:31:22 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-159-120.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 10:32:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host200-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 10:32:52 <Wolf01> hello 10:45:23 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 10:50:45 <svip> Hello, Wolf01. 11:08:34 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:28:23 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A493E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:42:28 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A493E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 11:43:49 *** stillunk1own [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:15 *** kurtisnelson [kurtisnels@user-0c6ti83.cable.mindspring.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:50:41 *** kurtisnelson [kurtisnels@user-0c6ti83.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #openttd 11:51:10 *** KUDr [KUDr@mazanec1.netbox.cz] has joined #openttd 11:53:23 <TrueBrain> _Ben_: cool! Those legobits you made! :) Very nice :) Now we can make brickland license free :p (I stole the graphics from MLCad :p) 11:53:37 <TrueBrain> Anyway, one question: ALL pieces are one mesh? This way I can't link to them :( :p 11:53:56 <TrueBrain> and I have no idea how to copy/paste stuff :p 11:53:57 <TrueBrain> hehe 11:54:17 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 11:54:18 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 11:58:25 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 12:08:14 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A493E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:09:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B75FA2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B779AD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:14:31 <skidd13> Damn hard http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/mousemadness 12:18:21 <skidd13> http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/spankthemonkey Does anyone get over 377? 12:20:19 <svip> 377 what? 12:20:48 <skidd13> mph 12:21:06 <svip> Then I am not gonna play. 12:21:14 <svip> I don't believe in inferior measurement systems. 12:21:32 <svip> For the same reason I don't go to the USA and the UK. 12:21:37 <skidd13> lol 12:22:23 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has joined #openttd 12:22:26 <ThePizzaKing> Right, spank the monkey, and the high score is in mph, weird 12:23:07 <skidd13> A nice ting toi check your abilitys with the mouse :D 12:23:33 <ThePizzaKing> Eh, I don't think that site particularly likes swfdec all that much 12:26:03 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-200-62.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:26:29 *** Tobin_ [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:30:16 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB607D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:30:19 <ThePizzaKing> Um, I thought the UK used metric measurements 12:31:11 <_Ben_> we're ment to, hardly anyone does 12:31:35 <_Ben_> TrueBrain: strange, it must have merged the seperate meshes on inport, I'll try breaking it up 12:53:12 <TrueBrain> _Ben_: would be nice ;) 12:55:27 <Nickman> Hi TrueBrain ;) 12:55:37 <Nickman> The bricks done yet? :d 12:55:38 <Nickman> :D 12:55:54 <TrueBrain> tnx to _Ben_ we at least have really good bricks to work with :) 12:56:02 <TrueBrain> they in fact are more detailed than the onces from MLCad :p 13:00:22 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.117.217] has joined #openttd 13:00:51 <svip> _Ben_ sounds like a true brick expert. 13:01:32 <_Ben_> ha, thanks. Yeah I was kinda obsessed with lego 13:02:12 <Nickman> show us the bricks ;) :D 13:02:37 <TrueBrain> see tt-forums 13:03:32 <Nickman> :) 13:03:34 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 13:06:35 <Nickman> cool looking bricks! 13:06:40 <Nickman> really nice 13:07:26 <Nickman> can someone change the forum setting so that links open in a new window? 13:07:27 <Nickman> :) 13:11:44 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:14:24 <Nickman> So, how are the slopes coming TrueBrain? 13:15:17 <TrueBrain> Nickman: my gf is here, believe me, I didn't touch it since last night :) 13:15:24 <Nickman> :D 13:15:30 <TrueBrain> so, the same: I can't find the correct height 13:15:37 <Nickman> :) 13:15:46 <TrueBrain> tomorrow will be a new day :p 13:16:46 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A493E.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 13:18:19 <_Ben_> TrueBrain: The .blend file attached should now have the objects seperated 13:18:49 *** waxman [~cfluegel@static.88-198-83-123.clients.your-server.de] has joined #openttd 13:19:02 <TrueBrain> tnx :) 13:21:19 <Nickman> ;) 13:31:01 <ln-> ⚠13:51:53 *** svip_ [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:51:53 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52:56 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 14:07:47 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 14:15:41 <jonty-comp> openttd: /compile_farm/openttd/nightly/compile_dir/src/industry.h:225: IndustryGfx GetTranslatedIndustryTileID(IndustryGfx): Assertion `gfx < INVALID_INDUSTRYTILE' failed. 14:15:47 <jonty-comp> That's not good. D: 14:16:13 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 14:17:34 <glx> jonty-comp: post a bug report with the savegame 14:19:08 <jonty-comp> I'm just seeing if it happens again when I load the latest autosave 14:20:26 <jonty-comp> It doesn't appear to 14:23:51 *** sPooT [~spoot@e156067.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:27:20 <Progman> I need some testers for http://progman2002.pr.funpic.de/ottdpatch/ to check if all expected and unexpected values are handled correctly (and if the usability is good) 14:27:20 *** Niki- [~niki@p50909CCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:38:03 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 14:58:15 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:07:58 *** Frostregen_ [~sucks@dslb-084-058-151-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 15:14:00 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-115-224.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:14:08 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 15:14:21 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:15:13 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 15:15:16 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 15:28:02 *** e1ko [~L@205.117.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 15:32:21 <Sacro> @seen TrueBrain 15:32:21 <DorpsGek> Sacro: TrueBrain was last seen in #openttd 2 hours, 13 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <TrueBrain> tnx :) 15:33:39 *** Tobin_ [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 15:35:19 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:44:20 <Sacro> hmmm 15:44:35 <Sacro> does anyone want a .blend file i did in ldraw? 15:47:10 <Sacro> cos i don't know how to render 15:55:39 <TrueBrain> press F12 :p 15:55:55 <TrueBrain> Sacro: and sent it to me :) And tell me how you did it ;) 15:56:28 <Sacro> TrueBrain: you need to install ldraw and blender 15:56:30 <Sacro> and then 15:57:12 <Sacro> http://web.mac.com/carstenm/iWeb/Lego/Blender/13E01381-DD0A-4131-8C47-0DADA19A02E6_files/oldLDCONFIG.LDR into your ldraw folder 15:58:05 <Sacro> and dump the 3 .py files from http://web.mac.com/carstenm/iWeb/Lego/Blender/13E01381-DD0A-4131-8C47-0DADA19A02E6_files/LDRAW-Importer.zip into your blender plugins dir 15:58:18 <Sacro> edit all 3 and set the ldraw path correctly 15:58:47 <Sacro> then in the "Scripts config Editor", change "usehires" to true 16:00:29 <Sacro> and then i have to hard reset my desktop cos explorer locked up 16:24:54 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 16:27:42 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-103-180.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:58 *** glx is now known as glx|away 16:52:41 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-200-97.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:58:56 <Sacro> TrueBrain: any luck? 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Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 19:45:45 *** krushia [~krushia@cntcnhbas01dhcp1-a88.cntcnh.tds.net] has joined #openttd 19:47:56 <krushia> i just played a game with trunk and multiterminal is broken with busses... when I build 2+ bus terminals next to each other, the busses only use one of them and get congested. 19:48:32 <krushia> this is regardless of what pathfinding is used, or whether queing is on 19:52:58 <krushia> ugh... i need to register to file a bug report? 19:55:43 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 19:56:36 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:02:39 <Rubidium> krushia: the registering is needed so it is possible to notify you when we need more information about a bug 20:03:43 <krushia> does anyone know about this bug or do i need to register and file a reporty 20:03:54 <krushia> it seems like an obvious one 20:04:03 <krushia> for anyone who uses busses 20:04:52 <Rubidium> I accidentally broke it I guess 20:07:30 <Rubidium> anyhow, it should be fixed by now ;) 20:07:30 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10978 /trunk/src/station.cpp: -Fix (r10974): only the first road stop (with correct roadtype) was considered when distributing vehicles. 20:07:30 <Rubidium> CIA-3: you are *slow* 20:07:30 <krushia> that was fast. thanks :) 20:09:33 <Rubidium> *if* you would have had a tram only station it would've tried to let half of the vehicles go to that one ;) 20:09:41 *** SmatZ__ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:13:30 *** SmatZ_ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:54 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-200-97.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:32:31 <CIA-3> OpenTTD: rubidium * r10979 /trunk/src/ (elrail.cpp tunnelbridge_cmd.cpp): -Fix [FS#1157]: catenary on tunnel tiles was drawn non-transparant when the other catenary was drawn transparant. Patch by smatz. 20:32:51 * Sacro has a lego truck :D 20:35:43 *** Niki- [~niki@p50909CCE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:47:16 *** SmatZ__ is now known as SmatZ 21:04:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB48.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:08:28 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B788CD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:12:48 *** KageDragon [~a@69-17-144-254.kingkom.com] has left #openttd [] 21:22:31 <Sacro> !seen Bjarni 21:22:31 <_42_> Sacro, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd.wt2 20 hours 27 minutes ago (25.08. 00:55) stating "Quit: Leaving" after spending 16 hours 9 minutes there. 21:22:33 <Sacro> grrr 21:44:01 <Wolf01> 'night 21:44:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host200-232-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:48:50 <ln-> http://crap.teurasporsaat.org/archive/5489.png 21:49:22 * Sacro grabs some paper 21:49:35 <Sacro> well, 4x coes to 21:49:47 <Sacro> damn, i should know this 21:49:59 <Sacro> is it 2x^2? 21:50:28 <Sacro> and pi/2 = pi^1/2 21:51:02 <Sacro> which goes to (pi^-1/2)/2 21:51:11 <Sacro> err 21:51:16 <Sacro> -(pi^-1/2)/2 21:51:18 *** alex__ [~email@78.86.117.217] has quit [Quit: ircN 8.00 for mIRC (20070730)] 21:51:28 <Sacro> cos goes to -sin 21:52:26 <Sacro> so that's -(7^-1)-sin(2x^2 + -(pi^-1/2)/2) 21:52:33 <Sacro> i think :| 21:53:21 <Sacro> ln-: thoughts? 21:53:33 <ln-> i cheated and used mathematica, which told me that the derivative is -28*cos(4x) 21:53:38 <Sacro> :\ 21:55:20 <Sacro> don't see where that came from 21:55:40 <Sacro> oh crap 21:55:44 <Sacro> i think i integrated it 22:01:53 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 22:01:53 <ln-> am i correct that cos(4x + pi/2) == -cos(4x) ? 22:02:34 <Eddi|zuHause> == is definitely wrong 22:02:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it's easy to see that the answer to the question is -28 22:03:24 <Eddi|zuHause> 7 passes through the derivative, the inner derivative is 4, and the outer derivative is -sin 22:03:34 <Sacro> you reckon? 22:03:45 <Eddi|zuHause> so you have 7*4*(-sin(4x+pi/2)) 22:03:59 <Eddi|zuHause> x=0, so -28*sin(pi/2) 22:04:03 <Sacro> actually, doesn't it all cancel dwon to zero? 22:04:05 <Eddi|zuHause> and sin(pi/2) is 1 22:04:15 <Sacro> no 22:04:21 <Sacro> 7cos(pi/2) 22:05:59 <Eddi|zuHause> you first do the derivative, then insert x 22:06:06 <Eddi|zuHause> not the other way round 22:10:09 <ln-> this whole thing would have been avoided if the early man hadn't come down from the trees. 22:11:50 *** Farden [jk3farden@lns-bzn-48f-81-56-247-196.adsl.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:12:25 <Eddi|zuHause> half the people i post that to report "server not found"... 22:12:51 *** Tobin_ [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:14:18 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 22:22:04 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB607D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 22:28:11 *** e1ko [~L@205.117.broadband9.iol.cz] has quit [Quit: bye, Im going off] 22:30:14 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@ndb.demon.nl] has joined #openttd 22:32:06 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B788CD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 22:39:03 * Smoovious passed his CDL test. 22:45:30 <TrueBrain> Sacro: show us a picture! :p 22:49:09 *** KritiK [~Maxim@ppp85-141-225-117.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:51:22 <Sacro> TrueBrain: anything in particular? 22:51:33 <TrueBrain> your truck! 22:51:41 <Sacro> ooh yes 22:51:55 <Sacro> but blender seems to remove the nobbly bits 22:52:02 <TrueBrain> show me anyway :) 22:53:28 <Sacro> err 22:53:32 <Sacro> f12 to render 22:53:35 <Sacro> but then what 22:53:38 <TrueBrain> f3 to save 22:54:51 <Sacro> grrr 22:54:57 <Sacro> how do you find the plugin config screen? 22:55:05 <TrueBrain> I dunno :p 22:55:19 <TrueBrain> I myself search my ass of for the simplest things... 22:55:41 <Sacro> mmm 22:55:43 <Sacro> i changed the config 22:55:47 <Sacro> well the text file 23:00:23 <Sacro> grr :( blender is being a pain 23:00:27 <_Ben_> hi, I made a few more bits this morning, I'm going to have to venture into the attic to find some more bits to model from, cause I can't remeber many more bits acuratly... http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g226/ben_robbins_/legobits2.png?t=1188082419 23:00:31 <TrueBrain> nothing new there Sacro :) 23:00:42 <Sacro> keeps failing on "import os" 23:00:46 <TrueBrain> _Ben_: nice going :) 23:00:51 <TrueBrain> but shouldn't that be real holes? 23:01:03 <TrueBrain> and a 2x3 no-round-thingies I never seen? 23:01:04 <Sacro> think i need python for windows 23:01:07 <TrueBrain> although a 1x2 is missing ;) 23:01:43 <TrueBrain> I like it _Ben_ :) 23:02:17 <_Ben_> they are real holes, I just flatterened the render with a red background by mistake, so just removed the main background in PS, so the red bits fill the holes 23:02:21 <_Ben_> 2x3 no round things? 23:02:30 <TrueBrain> left top 23:02:34 <TrueBrain> the 'flat' one? 23:02:44 <TrueBrain> I only remember them being in 2x2 (like you have) and 1x2 (also 1x1) 23:02:47 <TrueBrain> not in 2x3 23:02:49 <_Ben_> yeah, theres a 1x2 flat, and 1x1 flat, but I can't remeber how the underside of them works from memory, I need to go find examples 23:02:50 <TrueBrain> details ;) 23:03:00 <TrueBrain> ah :) 1x1 is just hollow 23:03:06 <TrueBrain> 1x2 depends on the age 23:03:11 <TrueBrain> some had a nip in the center, some didn't 23:03:19 <TrueBrain> but I leave it to your attic :) 23:03:22 <_Ben_> hmm, I'll check around. I have nearly each lego bit. If I can't find a 2x3 I'll delete it! 23:03:23 *** krushia [~krushia@cntcnhbas01dhcp1-a88.cntcnh.tds.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:03:32 <TrueBrain> haha :) I don't mind it is there :) 23:03:40 <TrueBrain> btw, in those tiles the edges were always roudned 23:03:46 <TrueBrain> which made it annoying to make a smooth surface ;) 23:03:49 <_Ben_> yeah, the older ones had less gripping bits beneath, they used to move and pivot around too much 23:03:54 <TrueBrain> but that is not really what we want I guess :) 23:04:00 <TrueBrain> yup 23:04:19 <_Ben_> yeah..I was thinking of rounding the edges slightly. Otherwise when there added together it may be too smooth wich will look bare... 23:04:25 <_Ben_> it would take a little effert, but may be worth it 23:04:42 <TrueBrain> I guess so yes :) 23:04:49 *** Red [Red@71-10-84-229.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #openttd 23:04:58 <TrueBrain> I wonder how the import from ldraw to blender handles the different pieces 23:05:07 <TrueBrain> if in a nice way, we can link it to your bricks 23:05:12 <TrueBrain> so we can freely distribute the graphics :) 23:05:28 <Sacro> well the plugin is downloadable 23:05:35 <TrueBrain> yeah, didn't had the time yet 23:05:36 <TrueBrain> tomorrow :) 23:05:39 <_Ben_> are the Idraw mesh's copyright? 23:05:43 <TrueBrain> _Ben_: yes 23:05:54 <_Ben_> hmm ok 23:05:57 <Sacro> but free for non commerical/private 23:05:58 <TrueBrain> and they suck :p 23:06:06 <Sacro> Ldraw 23:06:08 <Sacro> not Idraw 23:06:10 <TrueBrain> (yours are much much more smooth and nice 23:06:45 <_Ben_> cool, there not too hard to make really, just a bit time consuming. A few people could get most bricks done in a week 23:06:55 <TrueBrain> yup 23:07:01 <TrueBrain> if they know how :p 23:07:02 <_Ben_> (asuming theres about 300 common bits)? 23:07:02 <TrueBrain> hehe 23:07:17 <TrueBrain> I only have a big fight with blender when it comes down to linking and colors... 23:07:29 <TrueBrain> how I look at it now, the only way is to make a copy of each brick in each color 23:07:32 <TrueBrain> which is just silly 23:07:48 *** exe [~adgf@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has joined #openttd 23:09:19 <Sacro> grrr 23:09:26 <Sacro> i can only render at low settings and it looks crappy 23:09:29 *** exe [~adgf@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 23:09:41 <TrueBrain> still, show me what you got :) 23:09:56 <_Ben_> You can change colours relativly easily (in blender terms) just hit F5 and there is a box next to "col" where you can asign colours 23:10:17 <TrueBrain> _Ben_: and in linked objects that somehow fails 23:10:24 <TrueBrain> dunno why yet 23:10:46 <TrueBrain> when I change it, it is okay for the session 23:10:52 <TrueBrain> when I reload the file, it takes the color from the master again 23:11:08 <TrueBrain> and more, it would be nice if I could use a MA: color, so we can predefine colors, like Grass, Desert, ... 23:11:13 <TrueBrain> so people don't make mistakes :) 23:11:38 <_Ben_> hmm, I can see why it would do that, but it should allow you to do what you want really!. Cloning is primerally for making mesh variations in animation, so you can alternate between differnt extreas of the same thing 23:11:41 <TrueBrain> the manual states that the master can tell what the proxy can freely change and what not, I just can't find it :( 23:12:15 <TrueBrain> you have to clone it lcoally before you are truely free to select the color 23:12:21 <TrueBrain> the manual is a bit poor btw 23:13:04 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065014.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:13:17 <Sacro> right, hopefully 23:13:24 <Sacro> linux on my laptop should be able to use blender nicely 23:13:37 <TrueBrain> funny that it works better under linux ;) 23:13:54 <Sacro> well 23:13:58 <Sacro> windows on my desktop is borked 23:14:09 <Sacro> any installer that needs to register a font will lock it 23:15:08 *** Nickman [~nn@d54C1C327.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 23:17:50 <Sacro> well my laptop works even less 23:19:28 <Sacro> ah good 23:19:34 <Sacro> i can install python only for my user on windows 23:19:36 <Sacro> all users crashed :\ 23:19:54 <_Ben_> heh, just got a large tub of lego down from the attic. Many more bits to model..! 23:20:13 <TrueBrain> Cool :) 23:20:28 <TrueBrain> hmm, somehow I got a piece in Ipo Curve Editor 23:20:32 <TrueBrain> and now it won't show up :p 23:20:33 <Sacro> damn 23:20:34 <TrueBrain> how annoying :) 23:20:37 <Sacro> need to try and remember 23:20:44 <Sacro> ring my brother tommorow morning 23:20:51 <Sacro> and get him to get all my lego manuals from out the loft 23:20:55 <Sacro> and have them ready 23:21:30 <Eddi|zuHause> ring him now :p 23:21:42 <Sacro> its 00:21 23:21:50 <Sacro> my mum would shout 23:22:00 <Eddi|zuHause> exactly :p 23:22:06 <Sacro> grrr 23:22:10 <Sacro> desktop is being an arse 23:23:03 <TrueBrain> ah, there it is again :) 23:23:28 <TrueBrain> just it is still hidden.. 23:23:29 <TrueBrain> lol 23:23:36 <TrueBrain> ah, it is just moved to the wrong place 23:23:37 <TrueBrain> hehe 23:26:01 <Sacro> windows needs a kill -9 explorer.exe button 23:26:14 <Sacro> grr 23:26:17 <Sacro> brb, pressing reset button 23:29:49 *** Lachie [~fake@CPE-58-166-73-181.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 23:35:14 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-180-201.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 23:35:20 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-180-201.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 23:40:42 <Ammller> Sacro: ctrl-alt-del? 23:40:50 <Sacro> Ammller: what about it? 23:41:23 <Ammller> or ctrl-shift-esc for killing explorer 23:42:22 <Lachie> that's awesome. 23:42:57 <Sacro> does that work? 23:43:06 <Sacro> hmm 23:43:14 <Sacro> Lachie: what are you doing here? 23:44:00 <Ammller> Sacro: I use windows only in VirtualBox 23:44:28 <Lachie> Sacro: sitting, quite obviously. 23:46:00 <Sacro> Ammller: oh right 23:46:08 <Sacro> well i booted my desktop 23:46:15 <Sacro> and then hit reset and put it in linux 23:46:21 <Sacro> then dual monitored my laptop instead 23:48:59 <Sacro> wow, this multi-monitor app is really nice 23:49:09 <Sacro> gives me a second taskbar on the other screen 23:49:19 <Sacro> and gives me buttons for shifting windows from one to the other 23:49:41 <Sacro> shame it gets confused if you have one window above the other, rather than side by side 23:51:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1DB48.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:55:27 <Sacro> TrueBrain: i can render it, but it looks really dark 23:58:45 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 23:59:37 * Sacro fights with blender