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00:07:00 *** CobraA1 [~Jeremiah@75-163-128-216.clsp.qwest.net] has left #openttd [] 00:17:09 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 00:22:39 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has joined #openttd 00:29:00 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:32 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:30:00 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 01:31:25 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B76B4B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:50 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B769B1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:15 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 01:44:03 *** Red [Red@71-10-84-229.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:44:03 *** Redder [Red@71-10-84-229.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #openttd 01:44:15 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096682116.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 01:49:30 *** De_Ghost [InfoBot@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:51:44 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-63-227.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 01:52:30 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has joined #openttd 01:52:38 *** goddamnit [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 01:55:08 *** Red [Red@71-10-84-229.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #openttd 01:55:49 *** Redder [Red@71-10-84-229.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:58:00 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:09:00 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:10:12 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 02:13:35 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:14:05 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 02:37:11 *** Fullauto [~Barney@82-69-88-85.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:53:59 *** Ben_1 is now known as _Ben_ 03:15:49 *** nairan_zzZZ [~Maui_key@p5498CF2E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:15:50 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C8E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:10:52 *** nairan_zzZZ is now known as mcbane 05:05:28 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 05:20:22 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.20] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 05:51:18 *** Smoovious [~imp486@c-71-205-140-67.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Off for 5 weeks! Everyone rejoice!] 05:55:00 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6FE7.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 06:04:18 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 06:05:58 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 06:05:58 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:21:40 *** SquireJames [SquireJame@adsl-70-234-34-53.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 06:21:50 <SquireJames> Hellooo :) quick request 06:22:30 <SquireJames> I'm wanting to re-create an old "Blood and Custard" Carriage I made long ago (for the BR set no less) but i no longer have a copy of the pallette 06:22:54 <svip> :O 06:23:15 <SquireJames> is there a sample pcx with all the pallette colours labelled on it, or is there a way to make Photoshop only use 256 colour? 06:25:37 <SquireJames> anyone have a pcx of the pallette or know where to get one? 06:26:31 <svip> Yes! 06:26:35 <svip> It is in docs/ 06:28:36 <SquireJames> hmm my docs just has txts files about the 32bpp project, changelog, multiplayer and known bugs 06:28:43 <SquireJames> no pallette-y looking things 06:28:50 <svip> It has some .png images. 06:29:01 <svip> Well, one png image and one gif image. 06:29:05 <svip> You want the gif image. 06:31:23 <SquireJames> I'm afraid theres no pcx or pngs in my docs folder 06:31:30 <svip> I said gif. 06:31:33 <svip> And there should be. 06:31:42 <svip> If you get the source from svn or hg. 06:32:23 <SquireJames> okay, i'll download it via SVN again then 06:32:30 <svip> Again? 06:32:48 <SquireJames> Already had it in one folder, but no gif or png 06:32:55 <svip> Look for the file ottd-colour-palette.gif in docs/ 06:33:04 <SquireJames> will do 06:33:31 <SquireJames> hehe, just noticed, one of the languages defined in the source files is Esperanto 06:33:39 <svip> :/ 06:33:44 <svip> And none of them is Klingon? 06:33:44 <SquireJames> either one of the coders likes obscure languages 06:33:47 <svip> Or Quenya? 06:33:55 <SquireJames> or there is a Red Dwarf fan aboard 06:34:04 <svip> Or Lobjan? 06:34:12 <SquireJames> OpenTTD would be, interesting, in Klingon 06:34:23 <svip> I have created my own artificial language. 06:34:29 <svip> And I am going to translate OpenTTD into it. 06:34:34 <svip> Even if only I am going to use it. 06:35:25 <SquireJames> i'm not sure they ever intended klingon to write the words "First Bus arrives at Qo'NoS Transfer" 06:36:03 <SquireJames> I supposed you'd have to use the word "Transport" or "Shuttle" for bus 06:36:15 <svip> Hey. 06:36:23 <svip> They could translate the Helmet to Klingon. 06:36:30 <svip> So I think OpenTTD would be piece of cake. 06:37:21 <SquireJames> Screw the Martian climate, lets make a Klingon Colony climate ;) 06:37:43 <svip> ;) 06:37:54 <SquireJames> A Klingon themed transport game, unique i'd say 06:38:03 <svip> o_O It makes you wonder why no one has made a Lord of the Rings scenario yet. 06:38:28 <svip> I'd make the first direct link between Mount Doom and the White City. 06:38:50 <SquireJames> mountains might be a bugger though 06:38:56 <svip> Yeah. 06:39:13 <SquireJames> and the sequel to our klingon game, "Frozen Penal Colony Tycoon" 06:39:45 <svip> :O 06:39:59 <svip> Oh they are so gonna sue. 06:40:18 <svip> With "why did you come up with that idea before us? ;-;" 06:40:48 <SquireJames> amazing, i came up with a tycoon game that no-one has made yet, i thought that was impossible 06:41:34 <SquireJames> I mean, with "Deep Sea Bass Fishing Tycoon" in Wal-mart, i thought every miserable tycoon cash in had been exhausted 06:41:59 <svip> lol 06:42:14 <svip> I've never been in a Wal-Mart so I wouldn't know. 06:43:27 <SquireJames> Just think Asda but bigger and cheesier 06:43:38 <svip> Asda? 06:43:41 <svip> O_o What's that? 06:44:40 <svip> Oh wait. 06:44:46 <svip> Isn't that some chain in the UK? 06:44:56 <svip> A competitor to Tesco? 06:45:09 <SquireJames> Yes, so where are you from then? :) 06:45:15 <svip> :P Denmark. 06:47:18 <SquireJames> Ah i see 06:51:54 <SquireJames> found the pallette :) 06:52:08 <SquireJames> one quick question, what colour defines the secondary colour? 06:52:10 <svip> Good. 06:52:19 <svip> In the .nfo? 06:52:22 <SquireJames> i know that dark blue is replaced by the primary 06:52:43 <svip> Actually, I don't know that much about the colours. 06:53:12 <SquireJames> so any where thats a particular shade of blue changes depending on company colour 06:53:32 <SquireJames> but since i last did this grf stuff they've introduced secondaries 06:53:35 <svip> Hm... 06:53:46 <svip> Oh... 06:54:12 <svip> I'd search the source for that. 06:58:08 <SquireJames> well im editing the UKRS, soo, i've found a train i know uses secondary colour on a specific part 06:58:17 <SquireJames> and it appears to be a lime green colour 06:58:24 <SquireJames> so i'll give it a go 07:00:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7C08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:02:58 <SquireJames> great :/ all it does is crash openttd 07:03:31 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-134.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 07:03:33 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-213-249-184-134.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 07:06:55 *** goddamnit [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:07:21 *** De_Ghost [De_Ghost@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 07:08:26 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 07:15:24 <svip> Bonus, SquireJames! 07:18:08 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C12D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 07:22:42 <SquireJames> well, i got it to work, just need to figure out the matching Post Vans for the era 07:23:09 <svip> ;o Rawr. 07:23:19 <svip> I am watching a live streaming video in Estonian. 07:23:25 <svip> I don't understand Estonian. 07:23:36 <svip> Perhaps that's what makes it interesting. 07:24:56 <SquireJames> indeed 07:25:07 <SquireJames> Is Estonian as puzzling a language as Suomi? 07:25:27 <svip> Well... 07:25:30 <svip> They are very similar. 07:26:20 <ln-> Not. 07:26:27 <svip> Not? 07:26:35 <svip> To me, they sound a lot alike. 07:26:44 <svip> I know Estonian is simpler than Finnish. 07:27:06 <svip> And besides they are from the same language family. 07:27:14 <ln-> They are similar in the linguistical sense, but a Finnish speaker doesn't understand too much of what Estonians say and vice versa. 07:27:23 <svip> Well... 07:27:29 <svip> They are like Danish and Swedish, aye? 07:27:33 <svip> Or Danish and German? 07:27:49 <svip> They sound alike to a Greek, but not to the one who speaks them. 07:28:13 <SquireJames> well, when I was modding Blitzkrieg i tried to pick upsome Suomi, just things like Assault Gun, Infantryman etc 07:28:16 <ln-> Danish and Swedish are definitely closer to each other than Estonian and Finnish. 07:28:25 <svip> Yeah, true. 07:28:34 <svip> I understand a lot of Swedish, without ever bothering learning it. 07:28:38 <SquireJames> everything seemed to have 6 letter "A"s and lots of little funny dots 07:29:18 <ln-> And there are a lot of words that look the same but mean completely different things. 07:29:24 <svip> Ma ei rÀÀgi eesti keelt. 07:29:42 <svip> Shush, ln-, that is the case with almost any language. 07:30:41 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7C08.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 07:31:41 <ln-> Interestingly, Estonian has quite many loan words from German and such, while Finnish has loaned from Russian. 07:32:27 <ln-> And of course Finnish has loaned from Swedish, too, but some words that people don't even consider loan words are from Russian. 07:32:41 <svip> ;o 07:41:38 <SquireJames> I think the Suomi language has alot to do with why Finland has the highest suicide rate in the world 07:41:55 <svip> :P 07:41:58 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has joined #openttd 07:42:04 <svip> I thought Japan had that record, SquireJames. 07:42:51 <TrueBrain> and today, we are going back to the univercity 07:42:52 <TrueBrain> yeah! 07:43:02 <svip> Already been there for a week. 07:43:04 <svip> IN YOUR FACE. 07:43:05 <svip> Also. 07:43:06 <svip> Reminds me. 07:43:09 <svip> I need to go to it. 07:43:25 <SquireJames> ookay, highest in Europe ;0 07:43:27 <TrueBrain> euh, yeah..... good for you 07:44:43 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:47:34 <SquireJames> Can I ask something that may be slightly stupid 07:49:00 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:49:08 <SquireJames> programmer to programmer, what is basically causing the hiccups with the newindustry switch? 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09:22:07 <peter1138> i've got a libgstrtsp 09:22:20 <peter1138> no doubt involves having to use gstreamer all the way 09:27:31 <ln-> doesn't sound mac and windows friendly... 09:27:42 <ln-> now i found something called libnemesi. 09:33:10 *** plaes_ is now known as plaes 09:35:55 *** guru3 [~guru3@90-227-129-150-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 09:48:09 *** SquireJames [SquireJame@adsl-70-234-34-53.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 09:50:33 *** alex__ [~joe@62.249.237.101] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:55:02 <elmex> heya Rubidium 09:59:10 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 09:59:32 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-63-227.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 09:59:43 <Bjarni> ln-: what are you trying to do? 10:00:09 <Bjarni> and don't say "reading RTSP streams" :P 10:01:12 <Bjarni> sounds like you are trying to do something to our great game (since you need it to work on several platforms), but the question is what? :) 10:02:21 <ln-> actually it doesn't have anything to do with OTTD as far as I can see.. i'm just abusing the expertise of the channel. :) 10:03:12 <Bjarni> oh 10:03:19 <Bjarni> then why do you need it to be portable? 10:04:52 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:05:42 <ln-> i'm writing portable software 10:16:02 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 10:16:02 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:26:12 *** blackjak [~blackjak@dyn-91-168-75-100.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #openttd 10:26:55 <blackjak> anyone there? 10:27:07 *** blackjak [~blackjak@dyn-91-168-75-100.ppp.tiscali.fr] has quit [] 10:28:07 <ln-> we must be quicker! 10:38:06 <Sacro> meh 10:41:39 <ln-> you especially. 10:45:17 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-63-227.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:53:01 <Bjarni> so he allowed us to have 12 sec to reply before he left 10:53:22 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 10:53:27 <Bjarni> even busy channels can be idle for 12 secs :P 10:53:48 <nzvip> :O 10:53:51 <nzvip> No way! 10:56:08 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [] 10:58:22 <guru3> wow, flashback, just found my patch for banning :O 10:58:55 <Sacro> hey guru3 10:59:01 <guru3> hey :> 11:00:19 * Bjarni sets mode +b *!*guru@* 11:00:22 <Bjarni> like this? 11:00:30 <guru3> no 11:00:36 <guru3> banning in multiplayer mode :> 11:00:45 * Bjarni sets mode +b *!*@* 11:00:48 <Bjarni> like this? 11:00:49 <Bjarni> :P 11:00:53 <guru3> >< 11:01:08 <guru3> http://electricpotential.net/temp/baning.patch 11:01:09 <guru3> like that 11:01:12 <Bjarni> I know what you mean 11:01:32 <guru3> i know 11:01:37 <guru3> but i had to get the url in there 11:01:40 <guru3> it's history :D 11:01:48 <guru3> adding it to my 'historical code' folder 11:02:31 <Sacro> commit it! 11:02:42 <guru3> it was comitted 11:02:43 <guru3> ages ago 11:02:58 <guru3> january 2-3 years ago 11:03:05 <guru3> when i was doing a bit of C 11:03:10 <guru3> and also playing much openttd 11:05:09 <Bjarni> and then it all went downhill from there :P 11:05:32 <guru3> well after about 3 months of solid openttd playing 11:05:34 <guru3> i got a bit tired of it 11:05:42 <Bjarni> o_o 11:05:43 <guru3> in the meantime i also wrote a remoteadmin patch 11:05:49 <guru3> or rcon 11:05:55 <Bjarni> tired of OpenTTD? 11:05:57 <guru3> and then also a few pages 11:05:59 <Bjarni> how is that possible? 11:06:05 <guru3> 6 hours a day of openttd 11:06:07 <guru3> is a lot 11:06:18 <Bjarni> well 11:06:26 <Bjarni> it's nowhere near any record 11:06:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 11:06:44 <guru3> *is a lot for me 11:07:38 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-63-227.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 11:09:56 <Bjarni> I once saw a test on TV. They wanted to see how people deal with lack of sleep while making important decisions all the time, so they made two men play TT for... I think it was somewhat more than 20 hours 11:10:16 <guru3> that's... a bit 11:10:19 <Bjarni> now that's a paid test subject that didn't mind the work 11:10:23 <guru3> :D 11:11:38 <Bjarni> I told my brother and he said that they picked the wrong guys for it because I was bound to play at least twice as long 11:12:13 <Bjarni> but that's not true 11:12:35 <Bjarni> the longest I ever played was until I was blinded by the sunrise :s 11:12:46 <Bjarni> then I realised that I better get to bed 11:12:48 <guru3> haha 11:12:53 <guru3> when i was young 11:12:56 <Bjarni> it was mid summer though 11:12:59 <guru3> i used to wake up early on the weekends 11:13:02 <Bjarni> early sunrise 11:13:03 <guru3> and play TT until lunch time 11:13:19 <guru3> the good old days 11:13:52 <Sacro> i've had a 40 hour session before 11:13:59 <Sacro> i think RichK was there most of it too 11:14:46 * Bjarni wonders how long it will take for the brainiacs to figure out that early sunrise during the summer contribute to global warming (in other words: human caused) and should be prevented 11:15:13 <guru3> wow just found a picture so old i was using windows 11:15:23 <Bjarni> wow 11:15:33 <Bjarni> you found a relic from the dark ages 11:15:40 <Bjarni> congratulations 11:15:41 <guru3> indeed 11:15:44 <guru3> i think it's at least 2 years 11:16:07 <guru3> i was still using an AT keyboard then 11:16:46 <guru3> ooo just found my demo video of compiz :D 11:18:11 <guru3> i was bored 11:18:42 <peter1138> blah 11:18:50 <peter1138> my current version of compiz breaks opengl :o 11:19:23 <guru3> ive stopped using it 11:19:26 <guru3> 4 workspaces isn't enough 11:20:12 <guru3> that was sort of fun to watch though 11:20:56 <peter1138> ... 11:21:07 <peter1138> there's no limit of 4 for me 11:21:31 <peter1138> ah... 8 * 4 should be enough ;) 11:22:13 <guru3> >< 11:22:28 <guru3> for a while it increased productivity for me 11:22:29 <peter1138> although vertical isn't accessible when using the cube 11:22:31 <guru3> and then it decreased again 11:24:23 <Sacro> i use expose 11:24:35 <Sacro> and the wall 11:44:59 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:48:58 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@WL-POOL31-09.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #openttd 11:48:59 <Rubidium> elmex: why do you keep highlighting me for no apparant reason? 11:49:23 <elmex> Rubidium: heh, because i was in search for you 11:50:01 <elmex> Rubidium: do you know when 'Transport Credits' are viewed in the vehicle info? it seems as it is always 0 here 11:51:42 <elmex> (with latest svn) 11:54:10 <Rubidium> it works as it should 11:54:20 <elmex> ok, when are they not 0 11:54:21 <elmex> ? 11:55:06 <Rubidium> when the vehicle is moving transfered people, i.e. people that have been put using the transfer order, NOT the unload order on the station 11:55:47 <elmex> ah, hm, ok 11:56:03 <elmex> nvm then,sory :) 11:56:15 <Rubidium> it's not quite the question that only I could answer 11:56:25 <elmex> yes :) 12:00:33 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 12:05:11 <Bjarni> generally people should just ask in this channel instead of asking for specific people or asking if they are allowed to ask questions 12:05:39 <Bjarni> technically asking if they can ask questions would be a question, so they already violated the rules if the answer is no :P 12:08:19 <elmex> :-) 12:08:20 <elmex> i kno 12:11:53 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-42.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:12:33 <Bjarni> w 12:12:36 <Bjarni> :P 12:19:26 *** elmex [~elmex@e180065176.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:22:44 <ln-> i already thought Bjarni was saying "w" about something :) 12:39:57 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-249-42.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:42:05 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:42:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:46:04 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-69.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:47:40 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 12:49:32 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p54A07D1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:50:54 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:54:40 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-104-117.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 13:00:51 *** eggburt [~mr-bob@cpc2-staf2-0-0-cust186.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:05:57 *** Ben_1 [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:16:52 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.153.11.185] has joined #openttd 13:18:42 *** TinoM|Mobil [~tino@WL-POOL31-09.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:43:56 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:51:49 *** MrBrrr [~chatzilla@bas3-montreal02-1096680808.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 13:52:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:14 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 14:00:03 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:00:14 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:08:05 <MrBrrr> For debug purposes (to print out some values to the console), I assume the DEBUG(...) function is used? 14:08:40 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:36 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 14:12:16 <Digitalfox_Notebook> !seen richk67 14:12:17 <_42_> Digitalfox_Notebook,RichK67 (~RichK67@194.164.100.143) was last seen quitting #openttd 1 week 2 days 14 hours 29 minutes ago (24.08. 23:42) stating "Quit: RichK67" after spending 49 minutes there. 14:12:25 <Digitalfox_Notebook> :\ 14:12:43 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Holidays maybe... 14:13:48 <Digitalfox_Notebook> !seen skidd13 14:13:49 <_42_> Digitalfox_Notebook,skidd13 (skidd13@p548A551D.dip.t-dialin.net) was last seen parting #openttd 16 hours 8 minutes ago (02.09. 22:05), after spending 1 hour 42 minutes there. 14:19:09 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has joined #openttd 14:22:34 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:24 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:23:27 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:25:52 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:30:53 *** NukeBuster [~opera@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 14:33:53 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:35:05 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:39:27 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B8484A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:40:43 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B80A5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:40:46 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:40:50 *** Mark [~Mark@86.84.7.53] has joined #openttd 14:43:08 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:55 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:45:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 14:46:20 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 14:52:11 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 14:54:22 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:54:28 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 15:12:43 *** eggburt [~mr-bob@cpc2-staf2-0-0-cust186.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #openttd 15:13:17 <eggburt> experimental vehicles should have an increased chance of breaking down, cause the kinks haven't been worked out yet 15:14:05 <MrBrrr> Anyone care to remind me of what the ^= means in "v->vehstatus ^= VS_STOPPED;" ? 15:14:19 <glx> xor 15:14:48 <MrBrrr> Ohhhh. Thanks a bunch. 15:15:02 <glx> a ^= b -> a = a ^ b 15:15:03 <MrBrrr> Law classes are starting to make my brain forget pretty basic stuff. 15:16:55 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:37 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4DD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:21:19 <skidd13> !seen Digitalfox 15:21:19 <_42_> skidd13, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 15:23:08 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has joined #openttd 15:23:51 <skidd13> hi 15:24:34 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 15:26:10 *** Tekky [~Tekky@p5493E26C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:29:16 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 15:29:16 *** ITSBTH_ [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:39 <Bjarni> <MrBrrr> Law classes are starting to make my brain forget pretty basic stuff. <--- I thought they started by removing common sense, but you might already be past that part :p 15:39:29 <MrBrrr> Way past! 15:39:41 <Bjarni> good 15:39:58 <Bjarni> the you will be a good lawyer, who is able to sue for everything 15:40:08 <MrBrrr> You should see the list of things we have to forget on day one. 15:40:23 <MrBrrr> Nah, I'm going to be a prosecutor. 15:40:42 <Bjarni> like trees, that are 2 cm too tall and such 15:41:33 <MrBrrr> x_x 15:41:37 <MrBrrr> Isn't that a bit much? 15:41:47 <Bjarni> well 15:43:55 <Bjarni> stranger things have been tried 15:44:36 <MrBrrr> True, still! 15:45:55 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 15:45:59 <Bjarni> the rule about how tall trees are allowed to be is to prevent shadows where people can grow food 15:47:00 <Bjarni> so the law states a specific max, which is 2 meters+ 50 cm for every meter from the neighbour (or something like that). This gives room to argue about 2 cm if somebody really wants to 15:47:38 <Bjarni> usually it's used to say "your tree is 2 meters too tall and it's killing my crops" 15:47:58 <MrBrrr> 2 meters I can understand 15:48:03 <MrBrrr> But 2 cm :) 15:48:33 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 15:48:43 <Bjarni> there is a limit down to a specific number of cm and certain lawyers will use it if they want to 15:49:01 <MrBrrr> Wow, laws serving evil. 15:49:10 <Bjarni> to demand the whole tree being removed since the owner failed to "maintain" it 15:49:13 <eggburt> good lawyers if that lawyer is defending you 15:49:19 <eggburt> a jerk if he's defending the other guy 15:49:49 <MrBrrr> bribe the judge? 15:50:02 <Bjarni> you would be jailed for that 15:50:09 <Bjarni> +might 15:50:12 <MrBrrr> exactly heh 15:50:17 <Bjarni> it depends on where you live 15:50:20 <eggburt> also they might find you out and consider you appalling 15:50:26 <eggburt> I play too much :( 15:50:33 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-215-091.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:36 <MrBrrr> NUUUUUUUUUU 15:50:43 <MrBrrr> Not the dreaded appalling rating :( 15:51:15 <Bjarni> then you lose the court case and your rating drops even more because you then have to remove a tree 15:51:21 <eggburt> oddly enough to make them hel you out you would have to grow more trees 15:51:31 <eggburt> what an odd world if it were a mix of real and tycoon 15:52:30 <MrBrrr> Yeah, a world where trains suddenly do a 180 degree turn when rails run out 15:52:35 <MrBrrr> What a world it would be ;) 15:52:48 <Bjarni> I could really have used that once 15:52:56 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 15:52:56 <MrBrrr> :( 15:53:29 <Bjarni> would have solved everything at the time when we learned that we could not use a certain switch at the end of the line while we were at the end of the line >_< 15:53:38 *** Pulseh [~chatzilla@86.25.26.192] has joined #openttd 15:53:56 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:53:57 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:54:02 <MrBrrr> Train conductor are you? 15:54:12 <Bjarni> no 15:54:15 <MrBrrr> Awww. 15:54:20 <Bjarni> I was on the engine 15:54:32 <Bjarni> Yoda you speak :P 15:55:12 <MrBrrr> On the engine? I see. 15:55:16 <Bjarni> the solution was to cancel the train and kick out all the passenger 15:55:19 <Bjarni> all 0 of them :( 15:55:25 <MrBrrr> Noooooooo. 15:55:37 <Bjarni> and reject everybody on the platform 15:55:52 <Bjarni> which is a combined total of 0 o_O 15:57:09 <MrBrrr> That's a lot of folks to reject. 15:57:13 <MrBrrr> A lots of tickets to refund. 15:57:22 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:57:31 <Bjarni> yeah 15:57:33 <Bjarni> well 15:57:40 <Bjarni> the next part was a bit more fun 15:58:03 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4DD9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:59:10 <Bjarni> after the train was cancelled, a new train was "created", this time a work train (not allowed to carry passengers), assigned a new number and such. Work trains don't have the demand to have the engine in front (other rules applies if they don't) 15:59:26 <Bjarni> so I guess it's the longest reverse that I have ever done 15:59:32 <Bjarni> 6 km 16:00:06 <Pulseh> Is there anyone here, where I can get some contact details, preferably an admin of Open Tycoon as I represent a Dedicated Server Hosting Provider 16:00:16 <Bjarni> fun to try, but I would have preferred to keep to the schedule :/ 16:00:20 <MrBrrr> :D 16:01:35 <Bjarni> well, I think it was the only trip that year where no passengers showed up at all, so one can say it was lucky timing 16:02:17 <Bjarni> bbl 16:06:00 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:07:07 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has joined #openttd 16:07:17 <nzvip> Yo yo yo. 16:07:20 <nzvip> Is Bjarni around? 16:08:07 <glx> he was 5 min ago 16:08:10 <nzvip> :O 16:08:25 <glx> saying "bbl" 16:08:29 <nzvip> Oi. 16:08:42 <nzvip> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=33701&p=623713#p623713 16:13:25 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 16:15:54 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:25:48 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:25:51 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB7C08.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 16:34:28 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 16:36:18 *** nzvip [~svip@192.38.109.188] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:38:20 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:42:52 <Wolf01> hello 16:43:11 <skidd13> hi 16:51:58 <AntB> Anyone know where i can get a GRF editor of some description? 16:52:33 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:53:00 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-225-81.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 16:58:51 <guru3> when was openttd at revision 1522? 16:58:52 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:58:58 *** Kloopy [kloopy@kloopy.com] has joined #openttd 16:59:08 <Wolf01> centuries ago 16:59:28 <svip> I'd say. 16:59:38 <guru3> i just found a screenshot of it 16:59:41 <guru3> i know the date is Jan 15 16:59:46 <guru3> but the clock didn't have the year as well 17:00:32 <Rubidium> @openttd commit 1522 17:00:37 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: Commit by darkvater :: r1522 trunk/players.c (2005-01-15 10:04:04 UTC) 17:00:38 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: -Fix: warning players.c; forgot return type. Damn, makefile is too strict ;) (Thx Tron) 17:00:54 <svip> 2005. 17:00:59 <guru3> almost 3 years the 17:01:57 <guru3> *then 17:02:01 <guru3> man i have some old crap 17:02:08 <svip> Better update, aye? 17:02:45 <guru3> was so long ago that i was writing stuff for openttd 17:03:01 <svip> Apparently. 17:03:35 <guru3> like here i've got some age old shot of PBS 17:03:39 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0FA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:37 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0F412.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:41 *** alex__ [~joe@62-249-237-101.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #openttd 17:15:03 <svip> Is it possible to get the length of a string by its StringID? 17:15:50 <glx> I think it is 17:16:04 <svip> main_gui.cpp:static int GetStringListMaxWidth(StringID base_string, byte count) 17:19:17 <glx> GetString() and GetStringBoundingBox() 17:19:25 <svip> I see it. 17:20:50 <guru3> @openttd commit 1483 17:20:52 <DorpsGek> guru3: Commit by truelight :: r1483 trunk/network_udp.c (2005-01-11 15:52:18 UTC) 17:20:53 <DorpsGek> guru3: -Fix: don't close a socket if it is already closed (windows doesn't like 17:20:54 <DorpsGek> guru3: it :() (partly tnx to tamlin) 17:21:16 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:21:19 <guru3> why do i have a 'openttd.r1483M.bigmap.zip' 17:21:49 <Rubidium> somebody was testing bigmaps at that time? 17:22:14 <guru3> @openttd commit 1481 17:22:15 <DorpsGek> guru3: Commit by celestar :: r1481 trunk/window.c (2005-01-11 12:15:08 UTC) 17:22:16 <DorpsGek> guru3: -Fix: [ 1099891 ] Added a return in DispatchLeftClickEvent which prevents reading of free'd memory (tamlin) 17:23:31 <guru3> i have some random builds 17:27:29 <svip> glx, can I get the width of an entire string, or do I have to loop through each character? 17:27:50 <svip> Wait, never mind. 17:28:02 <svip> :( 17:28:06 <svip> It's just that it keeps crashing. 17:28:11 <svip> Error: !invalid string id 0 in GetString 17:28:53 <glx> what string did you try? 17:29:05 <svip> Some of the one I am sure exists. 17:29:09 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:29:09 <svip> I am doing it in a loop. 17:29:15 <glx> it may need params 17:29:44 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-88-250.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 17:30:08 <svip> Hm. 17:30:17 <svip> :( 17:30:19 <svip> I know now. 17:30:21 * svip slaps self. 17:30:46 <|Jeroen|> stop hitting yourself 17:31:09 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:34:14 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34:21 *** ITSBTH [~e@host-81-191-171-43.bluecom.no] has joined #openttd 17:35:04 *** Pulseh [~chatzilla@86.25.26.192] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 17:38:06 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:46:39 <svip> Strange. 17:46:51 <svip> It keeps crashing when I select some option on the inner borders. 17:47:03 <svip> But when I select the same thing on the outer it doesn't. 17:47:12 <svip> Get the same error. 17:47:13 <svip> Error: !invalid string id 0 in GetString 17:47:32 <svip> And it is not the same reason as before. 17:47:38 <svip> Have already checked that. 17:48:32 <Greyscale> be back soon 17:48:34 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:50:20 <svip> But it doesn't crash before of the inner strings. 17:50:28 <svip> It crashes because of the outer strings. 17:50:44 <svip> They apparently have a very low value, but not 0. 17:50:52 <svip> And I don't know how they get that. 17:51:06 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 17:52:13 <Rubidium> maybe due to parameters 17:52:27 <svip> Hm, maybe. 17:52:31 <svip> But I cannot see where. 17:54:41 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 17:55:33 <svip> Rubidium, want to see the source? 17:55:45 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 17:55:58 <svip> http://pastebin.ca/680157 17:56:01 <svip> Sionide :O 17:56:10 <Sionide> evenin' 17:56:11 <Sionide> sup 17:58:54 <glx> DrawString(y, 31, _outer_legends[i], GetColourByPosition(i)); <-- are you sure _outer_legends[i] is not INVALID_STRING_ID 17:59:14 <svip> Would that be a problem? 18:00:37 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has joined #openttd 18:02:12 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:03:29 <Rubidium> svip: when do you expect that memset to INVALID_STRING_ID to take place? 18:03:48 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 18:03:50 <svip> First time. 18:03:55 <svip> And then when they are updated. 18:04:02 <Rubidium> i.e. where is _(out|in)er_legends[0] set to 0? 18:05:03 <svip> if(!_outer_legends[0]) memset(_outer_legends, INVALID_STRING_ID, sizeof(_outer_legends)); 18:05:03 <svip> if(!_inner_legends[0]) memset(_inner_legends, INVALID_STRING_ID, sizeof(_inner_legends)); 18:06:17 <Rubidium> but when is _outer_legends[0] set for the first time, because when this should be that case, you're screwed. 18:06:45 <Rubidium> as it only memsets when _outer_legends[0] == STR_NULL 18:06:51 <svip> It is in zoning.h 18:06:59 <svip> And defined in zoning_gui.cpp 18:07:09 <svip> StringID _outer_legends[ZONING_COLOURS]; 18:07:09 <svip> StringID _inner_legends[ZONING_COLOURS]; 18:08:14 <Rubidium> so it's garbage in the first run 18:08:20 <svip> Yes. 18:08:25 <svip> Well, yes. 18:08:40 <svip> Some suggested to initialise it in openttd.cpp 18:08:44 <Rubidium> so it will be garbage after the if (!_outer_legends[0]) 18:08:44 <svip> Never got around to do that. 18:08:53 <Rubidium> s/after/in/ 18:09:04 <svip> Well, that's the point. 18:09:47 <Rubidium> so the chance that the stuff is memset to the INVALID_STRING_ID is 1/65536 18:10:04 <svip> :[ Oh. 18:10:23 <svip> But I don't want to memset it on every run of that function. 18:10:57 <Rubidium> now you've got a 1 in 65536 chance it goes correctly 18:11:12 <Rubidium> or rather 1/(65536*65536) chance as you've got two variables 18:13:18 <svip> So... 18:13:23 <svip> Where should I initialise it then? 18:13:33 <svip> And where I have a 100% chance that it will happen. 18:13:41 <svip> Because I won't check. 18:15:51 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 18:15:51 *** Peakki [antti@cs181000195.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 18:17:12 <svip> static void InitializeDynamicVariables() in openttd.cpp, Rubidium? 18:17:15 <svip> Should I add it there? 18:17:59 <Digitalfox_Notebook> !seen skidd13 18:17:59 <_42_> Digitalfox_Notebook,skidd13 (skidd13@p548A4ADE.dip.t-dialin.net) was last seen parting #openttd 14 minutes ago (03.09. 18:03), after spending 1 minute there. 18:18:15 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Damn didn't catch him again :| 18:18:23 <svip> Do like we do. 18:18:24 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:18:26 <svip> Stay around. 18:18:38 <svip> Now Greyscale is back. 18:18:43 * svip jumps and waves. 18:19:11 * Greyscale waves 18:19:35 <Digitalfox_Notebook> svip: Not that simple.. My ISP is making an upgrade on my local adsl central to support vdsl, so it hangs a lot 18:19:56 <svip> Aw. 18:21:20 *** HMage [Q@hmage.dialup.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:10 <Digitalfox_Notebook> Also i'm playing onimusha 1 2 3 4, all day.. It's mutch more fun to do the whole story in a week than doin it it months.. 18:23:00 <Digitalfox_Notebook> PS2 still have lot's of good games :) 18:41:37 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:49:22 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-109-116.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:54:59 <Bjarni> back 18:55:21 <svip> :O Bjarni 18:55:30 <Bjarni> that's me 18:55:32 <Bjarni> I guess 18:55:38 <Bjarni> don't be so surprised 18:55:42 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-104-117.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:55:42 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 18:55:45 <Bjarni> I'm... around 18:56:21 <peter1138> Bjarni, have you fixed my bugs yet/ 18:56:29 <Bjarni> no 18:56:47 <Bjarni> surprisingly bbl indicates that I'm elsewhere doing other stuff 18:58:00 <peter1138> oh, well you've had several months 18:59:34 <Ammler> Website: revision r11039, created at Mon Sep 3 20:00:06 CEST 2007. - <_42_> Ammler: Nightly -> every night at 19:00 UTC 18:59:51 <Ammler> is that because of summer time? 19:02:33 <glx> nightlies are built at 20:00 central european (summer) time 19:04:43 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:06:17 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:06:32 <Bjarni> svip: don't link to external images. The forum can handle attachments and we are sure they stay on the forum. External links has a tendency to die :( 19:06:34 <TrueBrain> www.google.com : CEST 19:06:36 <TrueBrain> it will all come clear to you :p 19:07:15 <svip> :( 19:10:40 <TrueBrain> if I can give oyu guys one piece of advise 19:10:46 <TrueBrain> when you get the chance to look Knock Up 19:10:48 <TrueBrain> PASS! 19:10:57 <TrueBrain> Knocked Up, sorry 19:11:02 <TrueBrain> what a scrappy movie 19:12:48 *** Insight`f00dz [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:06 *** Insight` [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:31 <Sacro> TrueBrain: i thought it was alright 19:17:16 *** sPooT [~spoot@e142085.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 19:20:30 <TrueBrain> Sacro: so you are a girl 19:20:50 <TrueBrain> or gay 19:20:51 <TrueBrain> or both 19:21:02 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.20] has joined #openttd 19:23:00 <Sacro> neither 19:23:40 <Bjarni> he is from Hull... it qualifies as a reason for watching movies none of the rest of us would watch 19:26:04 * peter1138 wonders if Bjarni actually knows anything about Hull 19:27:21 <svip> :O 19:28:05 <Wolf01> he is NULL 19:29:14 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:34:30 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:38:39 <Bjarni> * peter1138 wonders if Bjarni actually knows anything about Hull <--- yeah... Sacro keeps talking about how bad it is, how his place has been trashed repeatedly and such 19:39:00 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 19:44:55 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:47:09 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:50:14 *** Dark_Link^skola is now known as Dark_Link^ute 19:50:21 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 19:50:53 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0FA88.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:00 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-141-103-186.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:57:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:08:19 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-161-39.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 20:10:25 <svip> Well? 20:10:31 <svip> No one has given me an answer yet. 20:10:41 *** prakti [~prakti@port-213-148-152-8.static.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: Quitting .... Hackedi...hackedi...weg.] 20:10:51 <svip> Wither or not I should but the declarations inside openttd.cpp. 20:14:42 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-109-116.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:14:42 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 20:17:50 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-186-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 20:19:16 <Bjarni> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OdmBwjgY0O4 <-- here is one reason why you shouldn't use wooden bridges :o 20:21:51 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-174-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 20:25:34 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 20:27:03 *** Insight`f00dz [~askme@host64-21.bornet.net] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.1 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 20:29:04 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A72B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:43 <skidd13> hi 20:30:13 <svip> :O 20:30:21 <svip> Digitalfox_Notebook wants you, skidd13. 20:30:39 <skidd13> _42_ told me 20:30:40 *** KouDy [user@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 20:31:21 <skidd13> He's away from keyboard ATM. Do you know what he want? 20:31:28 <svip> Nope. 20:31:30 <svip> He didn't say. 20:31:59 *** DorpsGek [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 20:32:02 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 20:32:34 <skidd13> the chat is really full, but damn quite 20:32:49 <svip> quiet* 20:32:56 <skidd13> oops 20:32:57 <svip> Quite means something else. :P 20:33:18 <skidd13> I really need more sleep ;) 20:33:23 <svip> ;) 20:33:25 <Bjarni> I think skidd13 knows 20:33:43 <svip> Jah, skid tretten. 20:33:49 <TrueBrain> 99 nicks 20:33:51 <Bjarni> ? 20:33:51 <TrueBrain> whoho :) 20:34:06 <Bjarni> do you talk dirty or something? 20:34:26 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has joined #openttd 20:34:27 <svip> :P 20:34:33 <svip> O_O 100 20:34:42 <TrueBrain> @kick svip 99 20:34:42 *** svip was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [99] 20:34:44 <TrueBrain> too easy 20:34:48 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:34:48 <Bjarni> :D 20:34:50 <svip> 100. 20:34:56 *** svip was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [99] 20:35:03 *** svip [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:35:04 <TrueBrain> And we can do this all night long :p But okay, enough is enough :) 20:35:05 <svip> 101. 20:35:08 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C12D.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:35:12 <Bjarni> 99 20:37:28 <Bjarni> I like bug report 1197 20:37:41 <Bjarni> some guy failed to find the autoreplace window 20:37:57 <glx> yeah he needed glasses 20:37:57 <Bjarni> then he posted a comment telling that he found it X) 20:38:17 <glx> he failed to see it in his screenshot 20:40:07 <Bjarni> I once posted a bug report for freecol. It was closed with something like it worked for the guy, who closed it.... they later learned that even though java is supposed to work the same on all platforms, certain functions works on some platforms and crashes others :s 20:40:38 <Bjarni> so you shouldn't be too quick to discard bug reports, but this one is... well needs to be closed :) 20:41:35 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-174-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: und weg] 20:42:33 <AntB> Can anyone quickly tell me how breakdowns are worked out? 20:42:53 <Bjarni> codewise or gamewise? 20:42:57 <SmatZ> do you know, why http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1179 is non-existant? 20:42:59 <TrueBrain> well, we send a man out on the rails 20:43:01 <TrueBrain> try to find your train 20:43:03 <Sacro> AntB: its when the magic smoke escapes 20:43:04 <TrueBrain> make him fix your train 20:43:07 <TrueBrain> and there you go! 20:43:14 <glx> SmatZ: it isn't 20:43:38 <AntB> smartarse git, i meant the in game calculation 20:44:05 <SmatZ> glx I cannot display it 20:44:17 <SmatZ> is it some secret bug report? 20:44:21 <svip> Oh. 20:44:23 <svip> That's annoying. 20:44:29 <svip> If I refer to the zoning.h header. 20:44:35 <svip> It complains that it has already been defined there. 20:44:35 <glx> SmatZ: exactly 20:44:44 <svip> But I have made the definitions extern. 20:44:51 <svip> Well, in openttd.cpp 20:44:54 <svip> Perhaps that's special? 20:50:09 <SmatZ> glx: aha, thanks 20:51:25 <svip> Rubidium. :( Aw. 20:51:32 <svip> Even now that I assume they are initialised. 20:51:38 <svip> It works worse than ever. 20:54:15 <svip> Alternatively, I can just have a global bool checking wither or not they have been memset'd. 20:55:31 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-174-053.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:04:05 <svip> Perhaps I am failing at using memset, Rubidium? 21:04:07 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-152-18.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 21:08:03 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-63-227.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:08:32 <Wolf01> 'night 21:08:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:10:54 <Ammller> TrueBrain: 20:00 CEST is not 19:00 UTC, is it? 21:11:45 <Prof_Frink> No. 21:11:52 <Prof_Frink> It's 19:00 BST. 21:12:28 <thingwath> CEST is utc+2 21:12:35 <Ammller> so something is confusing, webpage or _42_ 21:13:20 <Ammller> !openttd compiling 21:13:53 <Ammller> !openttd compile 21:13:54 <_42_> Ammller: Nightly -> every night at 19:00 UTC 21:13:56 <_42_> Ammller: 32bpp -> Sun, Tue, Thu at 22:00 UTC 21:13:58 <_42_> Ammller: newhouses -> Mon, Fri at 21:00 UTC 21:14:00 <_42_> Ammller: it currently is Mon Sep 3 21:13:53 UTC 2007 21:19:14 <Prof_Frink> _42_: Your clock's slow. 21:19:46 *** green-devil [~c@0x57355891.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:20:34 *** CobraA1 [~Jeremiah@75-163-128-216.clsp.qwest.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:56 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 21:22:22 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p54A07D1B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 21:22:52 *** green-devil [~c@0x57355891.vgnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [] 21:41:48 *** Noldo_ [vheino@jumi.lut.fi] has joined #openttd 21:41:57 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> galapagos.oftc.net quits: _42_, neli, Noldo 21:43:24 *** neli [micha@h8441250184.dsl.speedlinq.nl] has joined #openttd 21:43:24 *** _42_ [truelight@81.171.98.110] has joined #openttd 21:48:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> <svip> Wither or not I should but the declarations inside openttd.cpp. <- i told you so days ago... 21:48:10 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:48:20 <svip> You did? 21:48:34 <svip> Must have slipped me. 21:53:11 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Sleep is for pussies. Miauw!] 21:54:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> <svip> Some suggested to initialise it in openttd.cpp <- and what is that? 21:54:30 <svip> Well... 21:54:42 <svip> Initialising it in openttd.cpp only made it worse. 21:54:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> only if you do it wrong :p 21:55:29 <svip> True, 21:55:41 <svip> But it works fine as it is now. 21:55:48 <svip> I just want to know why it crashes. 21:55:51 <svip> Cause it seems unrelated. 21:55:57 <Eddi|zuHause2> Ammller: _42_ is wrong... it was always 20:00 local server time, so it changes with summer time 21:56:16 <Eddi|zuHause2> (CET/CEST) 21:56:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:56:31 <Ammller> Eddi|zuHause2: thats what I thought, thx. 21:56:54 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: add debug output before the crash, to see if what you pass is really not 0 21:57:03 <Ammller> so it will be right in winter... :) 21:57:16 <svip> Last time I checked it was 24. 21:57:32 <Ammller> so we can say time will fix it self :) 21:57:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> <SmatZ> do you know, why http://bugs.openttd.org/task/1179 is non-existant? <- i can reproduce that... 21:57:45 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 21:58:19 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-134-221-231.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 21:58:23 <svip> Oh wait. It is 0. 21:59:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> then add more debug output, to see where the 0 comes from 21:59:16 <svip> I can see that. 21:59:27 <skidd13> good night 21:59:30 <svip> o21 o22 o23 o24 o0 Aborted << Apparently _outer_legends[4] 21:59:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> PS: i absolutely do not understand what you want to do with "if(!_outer_legends[0])" 21:59:42 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A72B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 22:00:01 <svip> I have removed that bit, Eddi|zuHause2. 22:00:50 *** Digitalfox_Notebook [~chatzilla@bl4-208-2.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.5/2007071317]] 22:02:18 <svip> What is also odd, Eddi|zuHause2. 22:02:26 <svip> IS that the four before it has different values. 22:02:35 <svip> They are all supposed to be INVALID_STRING_ID. 22:08:41 <Eddi|zuHause2> then you apparently did not initialise it correctly... 22:09:13 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: I do not see the bug report... so I don't know what you can reproduce ... or you were joking and I didn't get it :) 22:09:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can reproduce not seeing the bugreport ;) 22:09:35 <svip> Eddi|zuHause2: I figured it out. 22:09:38 <svip> I have a pointer problem. 22:09:40 <svip> :[ 22:09:47 <SmatZ> ah :) 22:09:55 <svip> void ChangeZoningLegend(EvaluationMode ev, StringID *strings[]) 22:09:59 <svip> StringID *strings[] << is the bad part. 22:10:06 <svip> Well... 22:10:28 <Eddi|zuHause2> "Perhaps you requested a task that does not exist, or you do not have permission to view the page you wanted." 22:10:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:10:52 <svip> I still need to know how I can have an array of StringID's, and then use it when I call the function. 22:11:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: either * or []... 22:11:16 <svip> So it should return the list? 22:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause2> svip: an array is the same as a pointer 22:12:32 <svip> I know... 22:12:33 *** thgergo [~th_gergo@dsl51B60EDD.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [] 22:12:38 <svip> But I want to point at the array. 22:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause2> pointing to an array is the same as pointing to the first element of the array 22:13:07 <svip> Oh. 22:13:20 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13:43 <svip> :( 22:13:48 <svip> src/zoning_gui.cpp:145: error: incompatible types in assignment of `StringID*' to `StringID[7]' 22:14:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> because array[1] is the same as *(array+1*elementsize) 22:14:18 <svip> True. 22:15:00 <Eddi|zuHause2> and i have not enough information about what you are trying to do to help with that error... 22:15:14 <svip> The line: 22:15:15 <svip> _outer_legends = ChangeZoningLegend(_zoning.outer, _outer_legends); 22:15:30 <svip> _outer_legends is a StringID[7]. 22:16:04 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has joined #openttd 22:16:29 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17:11 <Eddi|zuHause2> and what is the return type of ChangeZoningLegend? 22:17:24 <svip> StringID* 22:17:38 <svip> :( I thought I had to return that to return an array of StringID. 22:18:44 <Rubidium> svip: how much experience do you have with C(++) and especially with unmanaged pointers? 22:18:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> that will probably not work if _outer_legends is a fixed size array... but i don't know if C(++) even has such a concept 22:19:09 <svip> Hm. 22:19:27 <svip> Rubidium: I used to be good at it. 22:19:27 <svip> But that was years ago. 22:19:32 <svip> I am super rusty in the pointer area. 22:19:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, it is a global variable, you don't need to pass anything 22:19:48 <svip> Yeah, but... 22:19:57 <svip> There are two different global variables. 22:20:06 <Rubidium> ... two variables are passed to the function 22:20:07 <svip> And how do I tell the function then which it is? 22:20:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm, you can either merge them to one, or use templates :) 22:20:36 <thingwath> array != pointer ;) 22:20:52 <svip> Or... :| 22:21:01 <svip> Merge them into one would be a bad idea. 22:21:14 <svip> :/ And I have never worked with templates. 22:21:18 <svip> So I'll do the next best! 22:21:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> well _zoning_legends[2][?] 22:21:34 <svip> Well... :| 22:21:38 <svip> He does have a point. 22:21:47 <svip> That would allow for a lot more borders in the future. 22:21:56 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-161-39.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:21:57 <Rubidium> why do you assign the variable you just passed into the function? 22:22:15 <Rubidium> especially when the return value (the pointer) isn't changed in that function 22:22:28 <svip> Oh right. 22:22:31 <Rubidium> only the values in the array the pointer points to are changed 22:22:33 <svip> :[ It doesn't return anything. 22:22:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1E788.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:51 <svip> I'm going with Eddi|zuHause2's idea. 22:22:59 <Rubidium> the function not returning is good 22:23:36 <Rubidium> in this case that is 22:27:16 <svip> :D Now it works. 22:27:18 <svip> Thanks, Eddi|zuHause2. 22:27:23 <svip> You are clearly wiser than me. 22:27:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> nah... i have no clue about C++ at all :p 22:28:29 <svip> Though... 22:28:38 <svip> Each time I close OpenTTD now I get a segmentation fault. 22:28:53 <svip> Must be because I don't free my buffer. 22:29:14 <Eddi|zuHause2> anyway, the template idea would have been to call ChangeZoningLayouts<_outer_legends>(_zoning.outer) 22:29:17 <svip> Apparently not. 22:29:26 <Rubidium> freeing is technically not needed when closing an application 22:29:39 <svip> True. 22:29:43 <svip> But it segfaults nonetheless. 22:30:02 <svip> But I had a buffer I used quite often in my draw function. 22:30:14 <svip> To figure out the length of each string, so I knew how to draw them. 22:30:15 <Eddi|zuHause2> segfaulting is if you try to access memory that you did not reserve first 22:30:25 <svip> I am quiet aware. 22:30:40 <svip> quite* 22:30:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> compile with debug symbols, and get a backtrace 22:31:16 <svip> Any symbol? 22:31:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> ./configure --enable-debug 22:32:08 <Bjarni> hehe. I just got a mail.... telling me about a meeting tomorrow 22:32:44 <Eddi|zuHause2> i previously got mail telling me that a meeting was cancelled 22:32:56 <Eddi|zuHause2> 30 minutes after i went to go to the meeting 22:33:02 <Bjarni> :P 22:33:22 <svip> And Bjarni. 22:33:24 <Bjarni> well... I mean it's pure luck that I read it before the meeting started 22:33:26 <Bjarni> however 22:33:31 <svip> Stop teasing me with my obsession with Estonia. 22:33:50 <Bjarni> I wonder why they sent it to me as I'm not supposed to show up and I couldn't care less about it... 22:34:16 <Bjarni> I have no idea who those guys are, but they keep inviting me to their student meetings 22:34:49 <Eddi|zuHause2> i have seen mails like "top secret stuff, don't show anybody" which were sent out to the entire address book :p 22:35:00 <Bjarni> <svip> Stop teasing me with my obsession with Estonia. <--- I didn't do that 22:35:03 <Bjarni> ... today 22:35:08 <svip> You were going to. 22:35:10 <svip> I could feel it. 22:35:14 <Bjarni> no 22:35:20 <svip> You say that now. 22:35:24 <svip> Because I blown your cover. 22:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause2> you kept back for an entire 35 minutes :p 22:35:31 <svip> Abugagaga! 22:35:50 * Bjarni reach out for the dictionary 22:35:55 <Bjarni> I don't know that word :( 22:36:12 <svip> <reemah> danish is really beautiful i think 22:36:28 <svip> :O 22:36:39 <svip> Says an Arabic American. 22:36:42 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0E996.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:36:59 <Bjarni> he is likely thinking about food though 22:37:12 <Bjarni> he didn't capitalise danish 22:37:18 <svip> She though. 22:37:37 <svip> reemah doesn't sound like a guy's name. 22:38:07 <Bjarni> IRC: the place where guys are guys, girls are guys and children are 40+ years old 22:38:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> and you actually believe a person on the internet stating to be female?!? 22:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> man, i can see how you can think i were wise :p 22:38:57 *** KritiK [~Maxim@89-178-88-250.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39:21 <svip> :O 22:39:28 <svip> Bjarni, I have met her in Real Life. 22:39:33 <svip> In Amsterdam and Paris. 22:40:27 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D56E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:40:46 <Bjarni> well... I replied based on the info you had given me at the time of my reply. Now you add new info to disqualify my reply. That's not fair 22:41:53 <svip> My apologies. 22:42:02 <Bjarni> well... say 1% of the females on IRC are actually females 22:42:28 <svip> I'd say between 1% and 5%. 22:42:41 <svip> In fact, probably more. 22:42:53 <TrueBrain> let's see... 90 people 22:42:57 <TrueBrain> so 5 of them have to be female 22:43:00 <svip> It is quite easy to detect which is a female. 22:43:04 <svip> No, TrueBrain. 22:43:05 <TrueBrain> ahum: all females, say ai! 22:43:14 <TrueBrain> *deep silent* 22:43:14 <svip> Of those who claim to be female. 22:43:19 <TrueBrain> at least is is < 1% :p 22:43:25 <TrueBrain> oooowwwhhhh :) 22:43:46 <svip> >:O And gdb is being a bitch. 22:43:50 <svip> Cause it doesn't work. 22:43:50 <TrueBrain> marry it! 22:44:06 <Bjarni> no. He is going to merry that Estonian chick 22:44:08 <Bjarni> I think 22:44:14 <svip> :| 22:44:15 <Bjarni> and he thinks so too... I think 22:44:36 <svip> No. 22:44:39 <svip> I hope. ;-; 22:44:40 <Eddi|zuHause2> TrueBrain: he said 5% of people who state they were female 22:44:41 <svip> That is a different. 22:44:46 <Bjarni> svip: it's no good to marry both a woman and gdb at the same time :P 22:44:58 <svip> That's why I am not going to marry gdb. 22:45:02 <svip> I'd rather kill it right now. 22:45:07 <svip> Cause it is making me angry. >:O 22:45:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> http://www.german-bash.org/125811 <- this is so sick if you can understand german... 22:45:15 <svip> It can't even run itself. 22:45:29 <TrueBrain> [00:44] <Eddi|zuHause2> TrueBrain: he said 5% of people who state they were female <- you are just a tiny bit slow, he already said... read before reply :p 22:45:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> i read, i just missed that line... 22:46:06 <TrueBrain> nightynight all 22:46:11 <svip> Bye. 22:48:20 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: wtf... what kind of people are those Germans???? 22:48:28 <Bjarni> or at least Mark 22:48:46 *** AntB [~AntB-UK@86.155.249.150] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.6/2007072518]] 22:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, apparently he did not see her for a longer time, so he did not recognise her while drunk :p 22:50:11 <svip> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 22:50:11 <svip> [Switching to Thread 16384 (LWP 9711)] 22:50:11 <svip> 0x403d4812 in __unregister_atfork () from /lib/libc.so.6 22:50:22 <svip> :o 22:51:47 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip252.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: The pedestrian had no idea which way to run, so I ran over him.] 22:52:23 *** Dark_Link^ute is now known as Dark_Link^skola 22:52:50 <Bjarni> well 22:53:01 <Bjarni> Germans... 22:53:29 <glx> hmm who removed the "don't put bash link here" thing from the topic ? 22:53:46 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-134-221-231.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53:51 <svip> Some fundraisers. 22:54:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: yeah, i checked that before :p 22:54:14 <Bjarni> I think it was the same guy, who both added and removed it 22:54:40 <Bjarni> and I'm not going to readd it 22:54:57 <Bjarni> because without it, I can learn a whole lot more about Germans 22:55:01 <Bjarni> hmm 22:55:13 <Bjarni> just wondering... is the sister grounded in the same house? 22:55:34 <Eddi|zuHause2> errr... 22:55:39 <Eddi|zuHause2> :p 22:58:36 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: I tried http://translate.google.com - and it didn't help me - instead, "blau" was translated as "blue", so I didn't know at all what the text was about :-p 22:59:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: "being blue" means the same as "being drunk" 23:00:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: so the translator was correct, but it could not grasp the cultural reference 23:00:07 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: it was the first thing I learned to say in Deutsch :-) 23:00:25 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip252.cab13.ktln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 23:01:10 *** silent [~pwr@86.121.234.20] has quit [Quit: Client exiting] 23:04:16 <SmatZ> it was the first class of Deutsch we had ... and I knew only few words, like "ich", "bin", "blau" (=blue) ... so I said "ich bin blau" and the teachear stared at me really strange 23:04:32 <SmatZ> it was funny, but maybe it is not funny when you read it on IRC :) 23:05:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not as funny as "Ich möchte diesen Teppich nicht kaufen", but still funny :) 23:05:46 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:06:00 <Phazorx> Teppich? 23:06:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> carpet 23:06:17 <mikk36> daaamn :P 23:06:25 <mikk36> listening to five hard drives to start up is nice :) 23:06:34 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: "I wouldn't like to buy your carpet"? 23:06:49 <mikk36> it's like listening the startup of 5 little jet engines :P 23:06:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: it's from a famous german beer commercial 23:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause2> some foreigners sit in the beer garden, and read that from their phrasebook 23:07:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> the waitress says "alright" and brings a few beer :p 23:07:33 <SmatZ> aha :) (err ... diesen != your, sorry ... rather "diesen = those"?) 23:07:49 <SmatZ> aha :-) 23:08:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> SmatZ: "this" is probably most correct :) 23:08:35 <Eddi|zuHause2> "those" is for plural 23:10:41 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause2: yes... I forget fast :( and actually, I have many problems with genders and "word tails" in Deutsch 23:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause2> i cannot judge how confusing this can be for foreigners... 23:13:23 <Bjarni> I don't know any Czech, so I can't judge similarities at all 23:13:34 <Bjarni> however I don't find it that confusing 23:14:21 <Bjarni> my main issue is that I don't use German everyday and Eddi|zuHause2 tend to find quotes containing topics we never learned about in school :P 23:14:40 <Bjarni> well, I had this one German teacher, who made us read about German prostitutes 23:14:41 <glx> I never learnt German 23:14:48 <SmatZ> :-D 23:15:01 <Bjarni> and talked about boobs and stuff in class 23:15:02 <Eddi|zuHause2> glx: then it gets about time you startet :p 23:15:08 <Bjarni> both in Danish and German 23:15:16 *** Darkebie [~dkb@d5153D5CD.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: VIP Gill ;D] 23:15:22 <SmatZ> lol 23:15:43 <Bjarni> he also told about his plans to run around naked in a certain park together with his army bodies 23:15:54 <SmatZ> :-D 23:15:57 <Bjarni> later he said that they didn't do it anyway... too many people 23:16:01 <Phazorx> i hope you meant "buddies" 23:16:05 <SmatZ> :) 23:16:09 <Bjarni> hehe 23:16:11 <Bjarni> I did 23:16:15 <Bjarni> >_< 23:16:30 <SmatZ> when you are speaking in a foreign language, you say things you would never say in you mother tongue... 23:16:34 <Bjarni> oh... and he also watched porn movies with them 23:16:41 <SmatZ> :) 23:16:46 <Bjarni> all in all... a "different" kind of teacher 23:17:20 <Bjarni> he left all of a sudden with no reason at all 23:17:32 <Phazorx> in this "free country" you'd banned from school for that 23:17:37 <SmatZ> maybe he met his "buddies" 23:17:39 <Bjarni> rumours had it what he had slept with one of the girls, but it never became official 23:17:42 <Eddi|zuHause2> one army buddy also tried to have me watch porn with him... it was... "weird"... 23:18:06 <Bjarni> so I don't know if it's true 23:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause2> while on the topic, anybody seen that british series "skins"? 23:18:54 <Bjarni> oh... he also managed to show up an hour late drunk and then he marked everybody, who didn't bother to wait that long as "never showed up for class" 23:19:22 <Bjarni> I think that's the only time I was absent that year 23:19:42 <Bjarni> this could also be a reason why he left 23:20:13 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: on the topic of weird teachers, army buddies or porn? 23:20:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> mainly the teacher thing... 23:20:41 <SmatZ> I think it wouldn't be any reason to leave in our country... and I am really heppy for it 23:20:44 * SmatZ will use 7h of sleep to have some clearer mind... 23:20:48 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 23:21:13 <Bjarni> I think he will be heppy for all the sleep he can get :P 23:21:47 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: no, I have no idea what series that is 23:21:49 <Bjarni> but 23:21:51 <Bjarni> time for bed 23:21:57 <Bjarni> I have a lecture tomorrow 23:22:00 <thingwath> hm, and I'm afraid that he is not right 23:22:07 <Bjarni> in fact I have more than one 23:22:23 <Phazorx> Bjarni: giving or taking one ? 23:22:51 <Bjarni> I'm not the teacher with those ideas if that is what you mean :P 23:23:19 <Phazorx> i actualy want to clarify on whether you are stuernt or teacher :) 23:23:31 <Bjarni> well, hopefully nobody will think that I will be teaching tomorrow.... I know shit about the topics.... that's basically why I signed up for those classes 23:24:21 <Eddi|zuHause2> since when is knowing shit a prerequisite for holding classes? 23:24:42 <Bjarni> we have a powerful student union :D 23:25:05 <Bjarni> so since it became powerful, it's mandatory to know stuff or stuff will happen 23:25:45 <Bjarni> heh.. I used stuff twice, but they mean different stuff 23:25:52 <Bjarni> and I used stuff again... 23:26:01 <Bjarni> maybe I should just go to bed and not say another word 23:26:05 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:26:08 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x535ca25f.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27:07 <Eddi|zuHause2> yet he said another word :p 23:28:05 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-134-221-231.range86-134.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 23:52:52 *** Dark_Link^skola [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:00 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-225-81.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving]