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#openttd 02:24:03 *** exe [~dgxczv@pub70089.brzesko.net.pl] has left #openttd [] 02:27:22 <Sacro> Rubidium: therefore :p 03:00:05 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 03:16:48 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C76C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:20:33 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:30:35 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 03:32:12 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 03:35:12 *** syn [~syn@cpe-74-79-40-37.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:36:01 <syn> ok I got a question i edited my config file for my dedicated openttd so that i have no vehicle breakdowns but i still have reduced and it changed the config on me how do i fix this 03:38:58 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0C76C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:43:23 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C51B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 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<mcbane> morning chris. 08:49:40 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 08:51:21 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:03:48 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:07:25 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:08:29 *** Steve14 [~stephan@p57B7752E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 09:16:28 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 09:31:29 *** Chris82 [~Chris82@p579E1BC3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 09:36:01 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B815E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:37:42 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 09:38:31 *** Strid_ [~Strid@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:46:38 *** Strid 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<Noldo> morning! 10:51:57 <TrueBrain> NO! Someone is alive! 10:52:08 * TrueBrain starts to run, screaming, naked 10:53:54 <orudge> :o 10:53:57 <orudge> D: 10:57:51 <mcbane> O.O 11:03:40 * orudge wibbles 11:03:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> you guys scare me... 11:03:50 * mcbane grins. 11:07:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 11:09:41 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-156-169.adslplus.ch] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:12:33 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:12:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 11:12:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:12:39 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 11:12:48 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:13:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:43 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 11:14:16 <mcbane> gero dont know what he want aye? leaving ad returning. 11:15:39 <thgergo> I wont do rejoining more... 11:15:54 <thgergo> Im just installed my new irc client 11:22:37 <thgergo> !revision 11:27:13 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:34 *** Dephenom [~paul@81-178-15-211.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #openttd 11:40:22 <mcbane> heh 11:47:41 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:48:08 *** G [~njones@202-154-149-198.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:50:54 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 11:59:56 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 12:00:37 <Sacro> rawr >:3 12:01:43 * Purno rawrs Sacro 12:02:11 <Sacro> zomg it's a Purno 12:02:17 <Purno> it is? :o 12:02:20 <Purno> HIDE! 12:02:23 * Purno runs in panic 12:19:04 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: robobed] 12:23:45 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:30:33 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:23 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-145-239.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 12:34:01 *** Name101__ [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 12:37:42 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 12:37:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 12:40:50 *** N101 [~Name101@CPE-121-216-143-142.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:44:05 *** nzvip [~svip@0x503e1d6e.bynxx8.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:47:41 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:42 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:56:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 13:05:06 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [] 13:11:33 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 13:14:14 *** DeGhosty [~c4command@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 13:32:06 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 13:35:15 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:35:20 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 13:36:54 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 13:42:48 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-155-227.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 13:46:53 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-156-169.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 13:52:46 *** MUcht [~Mucht@p57A0D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:02:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 14:05:45 <thgergo> !password 14:08:11 <TrueBrain> @kick thgergo wrong channel 14:08:11 *** thgergo was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [wrong channel] 14:37:44 *** Tobin [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 14:45:22 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:13 <tokai|noir> TrueBrain: what was that? :) 14:50:22 *** orudge [~orudge@149.254.192.205] has joined #openttd 14:52:44 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:55:00 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 15:01:02 *** orudge` [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 15:02:01 *** orudge is now known as Guest405 15:02:01 *** orudge` is now known as orudge 15:03:06 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:06:36 *** Guest405 [~orudge@149.254.192.205] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:52 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A526C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:18:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> his one good deed per day ;) 15:20:41 *** DeGhosty [~c4command@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:08 *** DeGhosty [~c4command@CPE0050ba8caf2c-CM0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #openttd 15:22:33 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 15:33:12 *** Jerre [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:37:28 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:03 <ln-> attention, laws of physics have been broken: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=481996&in_page_id=1965 15:48:20 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A526C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 15:49:38 *** nzvip [~svip@0x503e1d6e.bynxx8.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:50:34 <TrueBrain> oh boy, we need to rewrite some books now... 15:51:03 *** Nite [~anonym@chello062178193175.3.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #openttd 15:51:39 <Nite> hellouu 15:52:41 <ln-> funny that they only talk about lower domestic heating costs, while a device producing energy from nothing would have a bit more range possible uses. 15:53:13 <TrueBrain> ln-: indeed, so most likely there is some really big catch for this to work, which makes it impossible to use in other things 15:53:15 <Rubidium> sounds a little like cold fusion happening 15:53:45 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: for me it reads more that the catalyst breaks the H2O bridge, producing heat 15:54:26 <TrueBrain> either way, I truely wonder how long such 'device' will last... 15:54:28 <Rubidium> from a black-box point of view it's the same: you put some energy in it and you get more energy out of it 15:54:42 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: depends on what you define as 'energy in' 15:54:49 <TrueBrain> Water has also energy 15:54:55 <TrueBrain> very much in fact 15:55:29 <TrueBrain> as in all other cases you could wire up the end of the tube to the begin of the tube 15:55:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> err... but breaking the H2O molecules consumes energy 15:55:33 <TrueBrain> and have infinite energy 15:55:50 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: some catalyst are known to do something 'for free' wher enormally it would take energy to do so 15:56:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> no, they usually only reduce the activation energy, before the reaction starts at all 15:56:28 <TrueBrain> anyway, for the reason ln- says, and for the reason you can't make infinite energy, there is something they are not telling 15:56:46 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: one type of catalyst, yes, and even that type can work in this case 15:56:54 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:25 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, that's my thought, too... 15:57:27 <Rubidium> I suspect that there is coming less water out than there goes in 15:57:41 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: it wouldn't suprise me 15:57:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> but i really have to keep on reading papers on model checking of component systems 15:58:11 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: enjoy :p I am going to make myself some food 15:58:20 <TrueBrain> by putting fire under an iron piece 15:58:28 <TrueBrain> nothing fancy about that ;) 15:58:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have this exercise for 2 weeks, and 1.5 weeks of that are over :p 15:59:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> fire? in what kind of cave do you live? 15:59:17 <Rubidium> so you still have 84 hours left ;) 15:59:49 <TrueBrain> ask Rubidium, he has been here 15:59:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> a little less i think 16:00:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> the meeting is wednesday at 11, and i have to post my results a day before 16:00:51 <Rubidium> so 54 hours 16:02:09 <TrueBrain> so stop IRCing 16:02:17 <TrueBrain> wait, let me help you 16:02:19 <TrueBrain> @kick Eddi|zuHause3 go study 16:02:19 *** Eddi|zuHause3 was kicked from #openttd by DorpsGek [go study] 16:02:23 <TrueBrain> I love doing that :) 16:02:23 <glx> lol 16:02:25 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B7746E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> :p 16:02:32 <TrueBrain> he now, don't come back, that aint fair! :p 16:02:36 * TrueBrain hugs Eddi|zuHause3 16:02:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> you need some kind of anger management? :p 16:03:57 <ln-> we do need a replacement for Tron. 16:04:19 <Rubidium> _minime_: do I read the newgrf specs correctly when I read them as: the only information you have during an engine callback is the part index? 16:04:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> i can do that ;) 16:04:35 <Rubidium> *articulated engine callback 16:04:38 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: finally someone who steps up! 16:04:44 * TrueBrain prepares his @kick commands 16:04:48 <TrueBrain> this is going to be so much fun :) 16:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i do can bitch about any kind of style misusage in every commit :p 16:07:06 <ln-> heeeey, how do i test force feedback on linux? 16:07:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> there must be a libforcefeedback somewhere :p 16:08:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> there's a lib<whatever> for <whatever> 16:08:54 <SmatZ> :-) 16:10:51 *** Nite [~anonym@chello062178193175.3.15.vie.surfer.at] has quit [Quit: Dana] 16:21:08 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 16:26:15 *** Tobin [~tobin@c58-107-50-36.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:39:29 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:43:03 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 16:49:48 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-77-241.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 17:00:25 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:02:16 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: brb client went fubar] 17:02:38 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 17:04:21 *** Mucht_ [~Mucht@p57A0D2D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:08:08 *** Mucht [~Mucht@p57A0D6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:58 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has joined #openttd 17:28:18 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:31:49 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:33:41 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:51 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:36:23 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:39:39 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:39:53 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:44:20 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:44:23 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:47:22 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:47:43 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:50:27 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:52:19 <DaleStan> Rubidium: You've got all the other defined global variables too (in the range 00..3F) 17:52:23 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:54:01 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 17:54:06 <TrueBrain> thgergN: for the love of God, get a stable connection 17:54:19 <TrueBrain> it is like watching a tennis match you are loosing 17:55:04 *** Markkisen [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 17:55:26 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:56:53 <_minime_> Rubidium: sorry, I wasn't paying attention 17:58:31 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:58:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:00:45 <Rubidium> _minime_: I was trying to determine whether http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/fs1231.diff would be a better approach for articulated vehicles 18:00:50 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:02:02 *** MarkSlap [~shit@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:02:02 *** Markkisen is now known as MarkSlap 18:02:06 *** thgerg2 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:03:05 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:03:10 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:06:43 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:06:43 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:08:04 <DaleStan> Rubidium: Since you're playing with callbacks, it looks like there's still a bug in Open's callback handling. In 8 bit callbacks, the high 7 bits of 15-bit return values are discarded. (80FF, 81FF, 82FF, 83FF, ..., FCFF, FEFF, FFFF) are all equivalent for 8-bit callbacks. 18:09:22 <DaleStan> The 8-bit callbacks are all callbacks not documented as being 15-bit. 18:09:41 <Rubidium> DaleStan: I've got very little knowledge about the whole callback stuff, especially those "cornercases" 18:11:06 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:11:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: truelight * r11119 /trunk/src/ (fileio.cpp fileio.h gfxinit.cpp newgrf_config.cpp): 18:11:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: analyze .tar files upon loading, remembering their files and offsets, which speeds up .tar handling with a big factor 18:11:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: several win32 .tar support problems 18:11:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Fix: better checking of .tar versions and other minor things 18:11:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: don't call fclose() but FioFClose to close a file 18:13:37 *** Strid [gg@85.8.6.64.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 18:13:47 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:13:48 <Rubidium> and I've slapped peter1138 quite a few times about that issue as it is on the tracker and needs to be fixed, but without a real knowledge of NewGRFs and especially the actual workings of the callbacks I don't think it's very wise to tinker with them. 18:14:36 <DaleStan> Would it help if I updated the patch to something more recent? 18:14:41 <Rubidium> furthermore I can't really compare TTDP with OTTD because I fail to get TTDPW working under Wine and TTDPD works way too slow under dosbox on my computer to be anywhere near useable 18:14:43 <_minime_> Rubidium: hmm, that should work, since the num_vehicles should be based on results of that callback anyway, right? 18:14:47 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:15:13 <Rubidium> _minime_: it first performs the callback cycle to get the length and then it does it again to actually create the vehicles 18:17:11 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 18:17:20 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 18:17:26 <_minime_> yep, that's better that what i've done 18:17:26 <TrueBrain> finally he leaves himself.. 18:17:29 <TrueBrain> I was about to ban the IP.. 18:17:47 <DaleStan> Does Open support the GRF registers (vars 7C and 7D) yet? If/when it does, there may be some subtle differences between calling a callback once and calling it twice. Especially with 7C, though that doesn't apply to vehicles. 18:18:26 <Rubidium> DaleStan: you mean the 0x110 register thingy? 18:18:38 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:20:14 <_minime_> nope, those are in the 60+x range (parametrized variables) in varaction2 18:20:29 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:20:33 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4161c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:20:35 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 18:20:44 <Noldo> Rubidium: I managed to make the OverflowSafeInt template compile yesterday 18:20:44 <Bjarni> ahh 18:20:47 <DaleStan> Well, there are 110h GRF registers. 18:20:50 <Bjarni> home sweet home 18:20:59 <Bjarni> did you miss me? 18:21:14 <SmatZ> a lot! 18:21:22 <Rubidium> hmm, 7C+7D are persistent? If so, then it isn't implemented 18:22:13 *** thgerg1 [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:23:06 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-50-143.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 18:23:08 <Rubidium> oh, 7D is to the temp 110h long register (of which you can't use the last 16) 18:23:37 <DaleStan> 7D is guaranteed persistent through the end of the callback or sprite lookup. (So, it should probably be memset(0)'d regularly.) 7C is initialized to 0 on a new game, and then guaranteed persistent through the entire game. 18:24:16 <DaleStan> Can't *read* the last 16. You can still pass additional data back to the host in them. 18:24:18 <Rubidium> 7D is implemented, 7C isn't 18:26:01 <Rubidium> operator 10h-13h aren't implemented either 18:26:21 <DaleStan> So if 7D is cleared on a regular basis (before every callback or sprite lookup) everything should be OK. Otherwise, it could cause desyncs or different returns for two should-be-identical callback calls. 18:29:53 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-77-241.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:29:53 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 18:30:14 <Rubidium> how long should the temporary store be available? 18:30:31 <Rubidium> between callbacks, or only during a single callback? 18:31:35 <DaleStan> AIUI, it's only guaranteed to be persistent for the duration of a single callback or sprite lookup. 18:38:13 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:38:45 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:48:47 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:11:18 *** iBitch [~me@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 19:27:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, i used to have a pencil in my room... where is it? 19:27:40 *** Jerre [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31:05 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:35:42 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 19:45:15 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 19:47:09 *** iBitch [~me@h204n3c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:57:56 *** scia [~scia@85.149.96.102] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 20:00:24 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:01:36 *** Greyscale [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:09:34 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, i used to have a pencil in my room... where is it? <-- it's to the left 20:13:20 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@p54B815E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: It's like, wah.] 20:14:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@5ac8e32d.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 20:20:19 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 20:22:41 <Wolf01> 'night 20:22:44 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-226-19.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 20:22:47 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 20:26:00 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 20:29:30 <Bjarni> why are you all idling? 20:29:54 <Bjarni> either you have a really good explanation or I will kick the next person doing it :P 20:31:30 <mcbane> all ppls are sleepy? 20:31:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> you kick the next person idling? 20:33:52 <SmatZ> I think people idling here just want to express their support for openttd 20:34:04 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: 'cause I've just got back from the Lakes and am knackered. 20:34:50 <SmatZ> maybe some idlers just forgot they have their BNC still running, and they do not use it anymore... 20:35:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CA49.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:28 <SmatZ> they may be in prison, hospital, ... 20:35:57 <Bjarni> that's possible 20:36:17 <Bjarni> it's also possible that they are in bed 20:36:24 <Bjarni> might even be their own bed 20:36:36 <SmatZ> :) 20:36:39 <valhalla1w> they might be in there with their girlfriend 20:36:43 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 20:36:45 <SmatZ> but still, there are people who never said a word 20:36:48 <valhallasw> although this *is* openttd 20:37:20 <Bjarni> <valhalla1w> they might be in there with their girlfriend <--- now that's unlikely 20:37:21 <valhallasw> do quit messages count as saying anything? 20:37:26 <Bjarni> no 20:37:28 <SmatZ> no 20:37:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> no 20:37:44 <SmatZ> !seen mikk36 20:37:45 <_42_> SmatZ, if you can't see mikk36 here right now, you probably need new glasses. ^_^ 20:38:02 <SmatZ> @seen mikk36 20:38:02 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: mikk36 was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 5 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mikk36> it's like listening the startup of 5 little jet engines :P 20:38:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> !seen random_highlight 20:38:07 <_42_> Eddi|zuHause3, you know that the length of nicks is limited, don't you? 20:38:21 <SmatZ> @seen izhirahider 20:38:21 <DorpsGek> SmatZ: izhirahider was last seen in #openttd 3 weeks, 0 days, 8 hours, 27 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <izhirahider> Eddi|zuHause2, it's ok. I was actually just looking for someone who told me "yes, this works in soundcard X for me"; thanks anyway 20:38:37 <mikk36> what ? 20:38:52 <SmatZ> mikk36: just testing how long have you been idling here 20:38:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> @idle 20:38:57 <mikk36> heh 20:39:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, in another channel this worked :p 20:39:14 <mikk36> why exactly me ? :P 20:39:27 <SmatZ> because I don't remember you saying something :-p 20:39:31 <mikk36> :P 20:39:35 <Bjarni> because you should ruin your idle :P 20:39:38 <SmatZ> :-) 20:40:13 <Bjarni> wow... you have a great idle. Reply: what?.... oh shit 20:40:20 <mcbane> hes only poking random ppls. 20:40:24 <SmatZ> last time we did this test, there were people who never said anything 20:40:25 <SmatZ> lol 20:40:39 <mikk36> nice :P 20:40:45 <Bjarni> mute people 20:40:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> in the other channel it looked like this: 20:40:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> [Sa Sep 15 2007] [23:42:17] <dfi> !idle 20:40:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> [Sa Sep 15 2007] [23:42:18] <[Bonnie]> Top10 IDLE Users: 1.) dakItt_ (120959 min) 2.) sl4mdunk (120959 min) 3.) ___DCSMW (89344 min) 4.) Gicht^BNC (62318 min) 5.) parciphal (51762 min) 6.) pierrew (38038 min) 7.) yamen (19834 min) 8.) optodoxie (9067 min) 9.) KoenigArtus (5630 min) 10.) BanginMan (3943 min) 20:41:09 <mcbane> omg 120959 min idle! 20:41:22 <mikk36> !calc 120959/60/24 20:41:23 <_42_> mikk36: 83.9993055555; 20:41:29 <mikk36> nice :P 20:41:34 <Bjarni> not so nice 20:41:35 <SmatZ> :) 20:41:42 <Bjarni> sounds like a waste of resources 20:42:13 <SmatZ> maybe they read everything we type here 20:42:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> but at least 3 of those people responded then 20:42:16 <Bjarni> unless it's some channel like #openttd.notice 20:42:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> one went like "only 7th?!?" 20:42:47 <SmatZ> lol 20:42:50 <Bjarni> lol 20:43:39 <SmatZ> I had a record in one channel - I left when the bot was not working, and it counted me as if I was still there 20:43:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> damn, i'm running out of disk space... 20:43:48 <SmatZ> so I had idle time like one year 20:43:56 <mikk36> well, for those guys, there is a game called idlerpg :P 20:44:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> i recorded like 5 movies today, and don't have time to cut them... 20:44:04 <SmatZ> :-))) 20:44:06 <Bjarni> :P 20:44:13 <Bjarni> been there. Done that 20:44:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> commercials are like 30% of the filesize... 20:44:40 <Bjarni> :P 20:45:04 <Eddi|zuHause3> meaning in 20GB of recordings, over 7GB are waste... 20:45:18 <SmatZ> I have recorder 16 series of The Simpsons and I am still waiting to have time to convert them from MPEG2 to MPEG4... they are now ~400GB in size, one episode ~700MB 20:45:33 <Bjarni> only 20 GB recordings? 20:46:25 <Rubidium> SmatZ: haha (the one by Nelson) 20:46:33 <Bjarni> then you don't want to know how much I recorded :/ 20:46:36 <SmatZ> :-D 20:47:07 <Bjarni> what Nelson one? 20:47:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> 700MB? mine (from today) are only like 550MB 20:47:35 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387C4DF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:47:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarni: 20GB from today... 20:48:02 <SmatZ> Bjarni: similiar to http://ringtones.mobilefun.co.uk/real-tones/24467_52-Nelson-Ha-Ha-(Simpsons).htm 20:48:03 <Bjarni> ahh 20:48:28 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11120 /trunk/src/ (articulated_vehicles.cpp roadveh_cmd.cpp train_cmd.cpp): -Codechange: remove the arbitrary limit of 10 articulated parts for a vehicle. 20:48:47 <SmatZ> http://www.angelfire.com/film/tsss/ss/haha.wav this one is better :) 20:48:50 <Bjarni> 20 GB during one day.... that usually indicate that you recorded too much 20:50:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> i currently have 140GB in uncut recordings 20:51:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i recorded movies from yesterday again, in the hope to cut out all remnants of commercial breaks and other stuff (program announcements in the middle of the movie) 20:51:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> sometimes they put the commercials in other places 20:52:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> so i can remove any signs of a cut by interleaving both recordings 20:52:28 <Bjarni> I like the Danish law that bans interrupting programs for telling about other programs or commercials 20:52:54 <Eddi|zuHause3> so you only have pay-tv? 20:53:01 <Bjarni> no 20:53:11 <Bjarni> but they are not allowed to interrupt a program 20:53:21 <Bjarni> they can send commercials between programs 20:53:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> so you then have 30 minutes commercials between movies? 20:53:39 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:46 <Bjarni> 30 minutes??? 20:53:49 <Bjarni> dream on 20:54:02 <Bjarni> a commercial block is 8 minutes... max 20:54:44 <glx> then they put program annoucement between commercials :) 20:54:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> every 30 minutes there are around 5 minutes commercials and 3 minutes program announcements here, over a 120 minute movie that is at least 4 commercial blocks 20:54:47 <Bjarni> in fact there is a limit on how many % of the total broastcast time that's allowed to use for commercials 20:55:31 <Rubidium> DaleStan: are there more 15 bit or 8 bit callbacks? 20:58:09 <mcbane> why rubiduim has no @ hes also dev? 20:58:34 <Rubidium> cause I don't like @s 20:58:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> also, at least once per hour there are overlay-announcements that either tell about The Big Movie today, or tell you to download the title music as ringtone or buy the DVDs or stuff 20:58:47 <Rubidium> and why do I need to have @? 20:59:12 <mcbane> you dont. i wonderd they you dont have it. 20:59:21 <SmatZ> to show you are more important that other users here... 20:59:30 <SmatZ> *than 21:00:03 <SmatZ> maybe this is the reason why so many people want @ 21:00:09 <SmatZ> and to have control over others... 21:00:34 <SmatZ> well... those are not nice reasons to have @, but many people just want it 21:00:44 <glx> he can use DorpsGek to control others 21:00:51 <SmatZ> yes 21:01:34 <SmatZ> but nobody sees it - but @ sees everyone 21:02:02 <Rubidium> undercover police ;) 21:02:19 <SmatZ> :-) 21:03:51 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A43614.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> anyway, the things i recorded today were: Star Trek VIII (2h), Star Trek (2h), MÀrchenstunde 4x03 (1h), Simpsons 13x16+18x05 (2*30m), Men in Black II (2h), Criminal Minds 2x01 (1h), Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2h30m) [still running], The Shield 1x06 (1h) [about to start] 21:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> that's 12h30m (uncut) 21:08:41 <glx> do you have time to watch them? 21:08:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> s/k \(/k IX \(/ 21:09:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> not today, but probably next weekend ;) 21:09:59 <mcbane> mÀrchenstunde? 21:10:02 <Eddi|zuHause3> e.g. when Star Trek X is running, which is completely boring 21:10:05 <mcbane> pro 7? 21:10:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> mcbane: yeah, rerun from monday 21:10:33 <mcbane> ah 21:12:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1CA49.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:12:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> but like i said, 30% of the 12h30m are commercials 21:14:54 <ln-> yeah, stupid germans, they may even have a commercial break only two minutes before the end of an episode of a series. 21:16:04 <mcbane> night ppls 21:16:09 *** mcbane is now known as mcsleep 21:16:31 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 21:21:46 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have not encountered 2 minutes yet... usually you have around 10m-[8m]-20m-[8m]-10-[1 spot] blocks 21:22:33 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-111-234.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Watch out for the bomb!] 21:23:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> while the 1 spot probably does not legally count as commercial break, because it is actually a program announcement with a picture-in-picture commercial 21:24:05 <SmatZ> they know how to force commercials everywhere 21:24:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> the program announcement then looks like "22s until [next show]" 21:25:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> afaik EU regulations say that you cannot have more than 2 commercial breaks per hour 21:26:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> so it's not like in the USA, where you have up to 6 breaks per show... 21:26:50 <Eddi|zuHause3> there you probably get 2 minute sections often... 21:31:59 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: btw, how often do you see the end credist of an episode or movie in fullscreen, without any textual or spoken spam on top of it? 21:32:17 <ln-> *credits 21:33:53 <glx> depends on the channel here 21:36:19 <ln-> end credits used to be shown spamless on every channel on finland until about the 2000's. nowadays some channels often advertise following programmes during end credits, which is somewhat annoying. 21:36:34 <Rubidium> DaleStan: http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/15vs8bits_callbacks.diff looks like a much simpler way to handle the 15 vs 8 bit callbacks than your big diff. 21:38:06 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11121 /trunk/src/ (newgrf_spritegroup.cpp newgrf_spritegroup.h): -Fix: clear the temporary NewGRF storage every time we perform a callback so it cannot cause desyncs. 21:40:33 *** mcsleep [~Maui_key@p5498E733.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:41:13 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-50-143.w90-24.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 21:42:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 21:43:14 *** mcsleep [~Maui_key@p5498CB83.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:45:53 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-034-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:22 <Bjarni> <ln-> end credits used to be shown spamless on every channel on finland until about the 2000's. nowadays some channels often advertise following programmes during end credits, which is somewhat annoying. <--- it's the same here 21:46:32 *** KouDy [~KouDy@85.207.64.178] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 21:47:40 <Bjarni> they even decided that Danish movies older than some magic number (I have yet to figure it out) has no credits anymore... they just display a standard screen saying the end for a few sec and then they fate out the screen and music 21:48:06 <Bjarni> but they never spam that the end sign 21:49:19 <SmatZ> new technology in video editing software and hardware brought the ability to spam TV everywhere :-p 21:51:38 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:52:04 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 21:53:04 <Bjarni> reminds me of a radio show where you could request music. One request was a certain song and they were not allowed to speak while it was on. They didn't say a word and once it was over, they transmitted like 3 sec of dead air and then the speaker said "am I allowed to talk now?" :D 21:55:20 <TrueBrain> wow Rubidium, that is a much shorter patch ;) 21:55:53 <Rubidium> okay... what to do with NewGRFs that do not conform to the specs? 21:56:20 <TrueBrain> don't load them? 21:56:23 <Bjarni> goodnight 21:56:42 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a4161c.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:57:33 <TrueBrain> or we can do like Microsoft does: make all kind of hacks and stuff to keep things loadable, even if that application hacked and shit 21:58:38 <Rubidium> In other words, do I read http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=Callbacks#Articulated_engine_callback_16_ correct when I assume that only varaction vars < 40 or (> 70 and < 80) are available during that callback? 21:58:46 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: reboot] 21:58:58 <Rubidium> DaleStan: can you answer the above question? 21:58:59 <TrueBrain> I wish I knew what you were talking about 21:59:09 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: so do I ;) 21:59:13 <TrueBrain> :) 21:59:40 *** ufoun [~ty@81.19.35.178] has joined #openttd 22:00:06 <Eddi|zuHause3> <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: btw, how often do you see the end credist of an episode or movie in fullscreen, without any textual or spoken spam on top of it? <- if you are lucky after the night rerun 22:00:09 <Rubidium> *or* somebody has messed up the specs a lot 22:03:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> between 3:30 and 5:30 they often do not even show commercials 22:03:42 <TrueBrain> We have 3 channels here that NEVER show commercials while a show is busy (or a movie) 22:03:43 <TrueBrain> only between 22:03:57 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, we also have those 22:04:06 <Rubidium> TrueBrain: then you haven't looked at Studio Sport lately... 22:04:22 <TrueBrain> Rubidium: does it still exists? 22:04:41 <Rubidium> yes, when they have their sunday afternoon edition there are commercial breaks 22:04:54 <TrueBrain> idiotic 22:05:08 <Eddi|zuHause3> they are government owned channels 22:05:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> but their programs are bad... 22:05:47 <TrueBrain> here not always 22:05:49 <TrueBrain> De Lama's 22:05:50 <TrueBrain> very nice :) 22:05:56 <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause3: true, though less bad that the commercial ones 22:06:12 <ln-> was it the netherlands where all digital cable channels are encrypted and can only be received by one brand of operator-approved receivers? 22:06:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, they show almost nothing of interes 22:06:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> t 22:06:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> and if they try to get "youths" to watch their programs, it always fails 22:07:07 <Vikthor> Here the goverment owned channel is only one so far that aired Red Dwarf and probaly also the Simpsons 22:07:15 <TrueBrain> ln-: for sure not on all cables 22:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> like the ZDF ('2nd programme') bought the rights to 'Veronica Mars' 22:07:27 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:07:30 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 22:07:43 *** ufoun [~ty@81.19.35.178] has quit [Quit: Odjezd z 89. koleje...] 22:07:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> they placed that at a totally ugly time (like saturday at lunchtime) 22:07:53 <Eddi|zuHause3> and nobody watched 22:08:10 <Eddi|zuHause3> then they moved it to somewhere around midnight... 22:08:23 <Eddi|zuHause3> where still nobody watches, but they get better rating ;) 22:08:39 <Eddi|zuHause3> because nobody watches elsewhere either ;) 22:09:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> happened similarly to 'The Sopranos' (same channel) 22:09:30 <TrueBrain> "In a recent blog posting, a German operator of a Tor anonymous proxy server revealed that he was arrested by German police officers at the end of July. Showing up at his house at midnight on a Sunday night, police cuffed and arrested him in front of his wife and seized his equipment. In a display of both bitter irony and incompetence, the police did not take or shut-down the Tor server responsible for the traffic they were interested in, which was 22:09:30 <TrueBrain> located in a data center, over 500km away. In the last year, Germany has passed a draconian new anti-security research law and raided seven different data centers to seize Tor servers." 22:09:34 <TrueBrain> I love good stories :) 22:10:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> that is totally stupid... since we are BRD, they are making things worse than the GDR ever was... 22:11:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> it's 1984 all over again 22:11:20 <TrueBrain> yup 22:12:05 <ln-> is it legal to use a Macintosh in germany? 22:12:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> next year, they are making ssh and https connections illegal 22:12:19 <TrueBrain> and I was thinking USA was worst in this 22:12:22 <TrueBrain> but Germany is winning 22:12:33 <TrueBrain> I wonder if Windows is legal 22:12:37 <TrueBrain> OpenTTD for sure isn't 22:12:47 <ln-> Eddi|zuHause3: url? 22:12:55 <Eddi|zuHause3> ln-: i made that one up :p 22:13:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> but it is already shocking that people would actually believe that 22:13:29 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: and you might be correct... 22:13:32 <TrueBrain> that is just scary 22:14:20 <Eddi|zuHause3> currently they are working on a government financed trojan virus 22:14:26 <Eddi|zuHause3> (and that is for real) 22:14:53 <TrueBrain> what was it... AVs were asked to not detect it? 22:14:59 <TrueBrain> or was it that AVs don't detect some NSA trojans? 22:15:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have no idea... they are (officially) not even developing it 22:16:00 <TrueBrain> I tihnk it is better to move out of Germany 22:16:13 <TrueBrain> or make your computer a remote desktop of some non-German-based server 22:16:24 <Eddi|zuHause3> and (officially) it should only be used in very rare cases, each one implemented and placed individually 22:17:11 *** todem [~todem@216.215.148.149.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #openttd 22:17:18 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B815E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:17:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i should probably do such a thing, but my bandwidth is not big enough... 22:19:04 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81425.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:19:07 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 22:21:43 *** todem [~todem@216.215.148.149.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 22:26:38 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 22:31:55 *** thgergo [~Thiering_@dsl51B7A19B.pool.t-online.hu] has left #openttd [] 22:35:14 *** Osai^2 [~Osai@pD9EB668F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:41:46 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB73BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:23 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:47:57 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:49:00 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:49:08 *** BobingAbout [~BobingAbo@adsl-83-100-172-178.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [] 22:53:36 <_minime_> Rubidium: thanks for taking care of that patch :) 22:54:48 *** Osai^2 is now known as Osai 23:05:42 *** orudge [~orudge@88-107-130-38.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 23:14:23 <DaleStan> <Rubidium> http://rubidium.student.utwente.nl/openttd/15vs8bits_callbacks.diff <-- Assuming those are the (supported) 15-bit callbacks, then yes, it looks good for now. However, requiring that developers make a conscious decision between Get8BitCallback and Get15BitCallback means that new 15-bit callbacks won't get accidentally truncated because someone forgot to add another case to that switch. 23:15:50 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-162-53.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:23:05 <DaleStan> <Rubidium> only varaction vars < 40 or (> 70 and < 80) are available during {artic vehicles) callback? <-- Close, but not quite. The conditions should be the same as for the purchase list: All global vars (00..3F) and all calculated vars (40..7F) with the corresponding bit set in varavailability (patches/newsprit.asm:2067) are available. For vehicles, that's 43, 48, 7D, 7E, 7F. 23:33:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-145-239.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:42:31 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:54:17 *** Grey [~greyscale@host86-131-27-166.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd