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00:02:11 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:11:49 <skidd13> good night 00:11:55 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A5589.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 00:46:06 *** lolman is now known as John 00:48:05 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:28 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl5402B36D.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:53:59 <Markkisen> Mjau 00:54:00 <Markkisen> :D 01:21:27 *** fjb [~frank@p5485D81E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'] 01:31:31 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77BFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:35:25 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:59 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B778D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:48:29 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 01:48:47 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:49:52 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-132-243.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 01:56:11 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-197-165.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:04:35 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:07:48 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:11:41 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:15:17 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [] 02:15:54 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:23:10 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:42:53 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:48:52 *** Diabolic1Angel is now known as Diabolic-Angel 02:50:57 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:51:07 <BigBB> Markkisen, you are german, right? 02:52:24 <BigBB> I think "Miau" don't understand the people. Miaow for british-english and meow for americ.-english. 03:05:58 *** elmex [~elmex@e180064004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 03:06:58 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 03:10:51 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180067135.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:12:59 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:21:00 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:25:54 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:26:05 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-132-243.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:45:43 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:46:52 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:04:26 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:08:57 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:10:36 <BigBB> can someone please tell me how is the action for NewGRF to check if TTDP or OTTD? 04:11:32 <BigBB> I think there is one ?! 04:11:41 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:12:40 <BigBB> ah, DaleStan :) can you please tell me how is the action for NewGRF to check if TTDP or OTTD? 04:12:59 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N739P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 04:33:47 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:44 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498C9FE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:41:50 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498DA28.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:41:58 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:51:42 *** dotnine [~Tianwei_L@ip68-4-253-96.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #openttd 04:52:00 <dotnine> anybody? 04:54:12 <Gonozal_VIII> anybody what? 04:55:57 *** mattt_ [~m@bas5-ottawa23-1088842655.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #openttd 04:56:44 *** mattt_ [~m@bas5-ottawa23-1088842655.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 04:58:42 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:15:06 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 05:21:41 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:38:10 <DaleStan> BigBB: Action 7, var 9D. 05:38:23 <BigBB> thanks 05:42:02 *** Jello [~lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:48:55 *** dotnine [~Tianwei_L@ip68-4-253-96.oc.oc.cox.net] has left #openttd [] 05:58:50 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 06:00:06 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B042A16.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:03:45 <Jello> hey everyone 06:06:12 <Jello> can i buy out other buisnesses even if there not bankrupt? 06:08:02 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-228-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 06:08:39 <Rubidium> in MP no, in SP yes 06:17:43 <huma> mp/sp? 06:17:55 <Gonozal_VIII> multiplayer/singleplayer 06:20:48 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11370 /trunk/src/order_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS1384]: manually replacing a vehicle with shared orders makes it lose it's order index and service interval. Patch by jthill. 06:21:35 <huma> ah, thanks 06:33:06 <Jello> yea im in SP 06:33:14 <Jello> where do i go to buy it out? 06:34:14 <Rubidium> company window -> buy shares till you've got all of them 06:34:55 <Rubidium> maybe you need to enable the patch option that makes you able to take over companies (somewhere under economy I guess) 06:35:17 <huma> Rubidium, you're on linux? 06:35:27 <Rubidium> why? 06:35:47 <huma> curiosity 06:37:04 <Rubidium> yup 06:46:20 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-228-011.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:52 *** huma_ [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 06:47:54 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:41 *** huma_ is now known as huma 07:04:50 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-084-058-001-145.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 07:05:47 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:40 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:11:34 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-084-058-060-192.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:14:00 *** Jello [lol@S01060060080d1060.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 07:28:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FE63.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 07:52:37 *** John is now known as lolman 07:54:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1FE63.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02:49 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 08:31:52 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:51:19 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has joined #openttd 08:55:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host207-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:55:23 <Wolf01> hello 08:55:30 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 08:55:43 <huma> oi 08:57:09 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@e28236.upc-e.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:05:36 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 09:23:47 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54A0DECE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 09:33:58 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 09:34:13 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54A0DECE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39:27 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip223.cab56.mus.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 09:40:27 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:42:55 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:59 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 09:56:44 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has quit [] 10:11:23 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:14:53 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-163-29.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 10:15:38 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has joined #openttd 10:17:47 <Markkisen> BigBB, no I'm swedish 10:18:22 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB55D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:19:01 <Gonozal_VIII> ? i don't see bigbb here 10:19:46 <Markkisen> No 10:19:50 <Markkisen> I realized that 10:19:52 <Markkisen> (: 10:19:52 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB55D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 10:20:01 <Gonozal_VIII> ah ok 10:20:45 <Gonozal_VIII> i thought there was a problem with my irc client or something with you answering a question i couldn't see 10:20:53 <Markkisen> :D 10:21:23 <Markkisen> He ased it 3:51AM (UTC +1) 10:21:25 <Markkisen> (: 10:21:47 <Markkisen> Wait, isnt that CET? 10:22:07 <Markkisen> Yepp 10:22:08 <Markkisen> :) 10:22:12 <Gonozal_VIII> [07:00:05] *** BigBB has signed off IRC (Remote host closed the connection). 10:22:31 <Gonozal_VIII> 7 cet :-) 10:22:53 <Markkisen> (: 10:25:46 <Wolf01> stop turning your head in the wrong direction, you make me have pain in my neck 10:25:58 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 10:26:04 <TrueBrain> yeah, I can't rotate my head 180 degrees 10:26:22 <TrueBrain> (you are truly internet addicted, when you rotate your head 90 degrees to smile) 10:26:40 <TrueBrain> (and then you should turn your head, and smile, to whoe ver you tell it) 10:28:28 <Wolf01> anybody here used to eggdrops (maybe you TrueBrain ;) ) 10:28:34 <TrueBrain> yup 10:29:00 <Wolf01> i can't make mine working, it doesn't accept any ctcp chat or dcc chat session 10:29:12 <TrueBrain> I made it to ignore those 2 :p 10:29:19 <TrueBrain> but dcc mostly is a firewall issue 10:29:33 <TrueBrain> (it might require incoming signal) 10:29:50 *** mikk36 [~mikk36@ip223.cab56.mus.starman.ee] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:32:28 <Gonozal_VIII> i think i wrote some script stuff years ago but can't remember because my memory is... what did i want to say? :S 10:42:38 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:38 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 10:51:12 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 10:57:44 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:57:44 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 11:03:10 <Markkisen> Wolf01 (: 11:03:12 <Markkisen> :D 11:03:14 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:40 <Markkisen> d: 11:04:00 <Markkisen> No, time to go home (: 11:04:01 <Markkisen> Cio 11:04:02 <Markkisen> Ciao* 11:04:04 *** Markkisen [~me@h13n2fls301o1036.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 11:08:34 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:10:44 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 11:14:46 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-121-217-203-4.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:15:00 <Wolf01> good, now works, now i should only find an talian language for the chatbot 11:15:13 <Wolf01> and maybe teach him some infos about ottd 11:15:50 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:17:39 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:39 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 11:20:57 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N739P003.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:23:49 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N906P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:34:58 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db303c7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:35:05 *** bluebear____ is now known as bluebear 11:39:10 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178240002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 11:43:11 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:49:36 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db3022f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 11:55:59 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db303c7.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:02:33 *** dexterl1 [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:05:07 *** dexterl1 [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:05:52 *** dexterle [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:26:16 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:27:55 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-208-9.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 12:28:20 * SpComb breaks MyOTTD 12:28:34 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-120.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 12:31:04 *** Farden123 [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #openttd 12:32:52 *** Ammller [~Ammler@adsl-89-217-63-152.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:33:53 *** dexterle [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:33:56 *** dexterle [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:34:02 *** dexterle [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has quit [] 12:34:11 <SpComb> hmm... the number of active servers just went down drastically 12:34:15 <SpComb> I wonder if that was supposed to happen 12:34:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:34:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has quit [] 12:34:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7F581.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 12:36:24 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 12:37:54 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:37:54 *** Farden123 is now known as Farden 12:53:57 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 12:56:00 *** bluebear_____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db33c86.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #openttd 12:56:05 *** bluebear_____ is now known as bluebear 13:01:04 *** bluebear____ [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db3022f.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:05:45 <SpComb> but the point is, MyOTTD isn't dead, even though I haven't touched it for ages! 13:08:56 <TrueBrain> I assume that with 'ages', you mean game-years? 13:12:59 <SpComb> ages as in three weeks 13:18:19 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest340 13:18:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host106-15-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:23:37 <Ailure> MyOTTD? 13:23:59 *** bluebear [~chatzilla@cmnz-4db33c86.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:24:20 *** Guest340 [~wolf01@host207-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:25:00 <SpComb> Ailure: myottd.net 13:25:22 <Ailure> ah yeah 13:25:23 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:25:26 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:25:29 <Ailure> the online hosting service 13:25:57 <Ailure> wouldn't it be tricky to make sure that like 13:26:06 <Ailure> a hosted server won't take all avaible CPU time on the server 13:27:49 <SpComb> Ailure: yes, you'd need to figure out what configuration settings influence the CPU usage 13:32:34 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]] 13:33:44 <Ailure> funny how a game that that was orginally made to run on 486 computers 13:33:56 <Ailure> can run so slow on the most modern computers with the wrong configuration :) 13:34:04 <Ailure> well, it can be mostly blamed on the newer pathfinders heh 13:34:25 <Ailure> especially when ou use them on the ships 13:34:44 <SpComb> there's one process that's using a fair amount of CPU 13:37:10 <Ailure> heh 13:37:12 <Ailure> still 13:37:17 <Ailure> the most processor intesive game I played 13:37:39 <Ailure> was that wwottdgd game 13:38:15 <Ailure> and while my processor hardly got to reach it's max, I noticed that the longer the game went on, the less people were able to play on it 13:38:23 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CE34.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:40:52 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest341 13:40:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host17-238-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:43:19 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest342 13:43:19 *** Guest341 [~wolf01@host106-15-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:43:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host195-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:43:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host195-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 13:48:55 *** Guest342 [~wolf01@host17-238-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:52:28 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #openttd 13:53:24 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:57:45 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 13:58:21 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:58:41 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host81-158-75-110.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 13:59:35 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Ailure> and while my processor hardly got to reach it's max, I noticed that the longer the game went on, the less people were able to play on it <- the server must be the slowest machine 13:59:56 <Eddi|zuHause3> the slower the server, the bigger the chance that the clients can keep up 14:00:14 <Ailure> that's how some online games works actually 14:00:20 <Ailure> the game slows down to the slowest computer 14:00:25 <glx> that way the game is laggy for clients, but they can still play 14:04:51 *** Alltaken [~chatzilla@121-72-235-8.cable.telstraclear.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]] 14:22:16 *** TinoM [~Tino@i5387CE34.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:24:38 *** Benito [~Ronnie@h64n1c1o1114.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #openttd 14:31:59 *** lolman is now known as John 14:32:09 *** John is now known as lolman 14:38:00 *** byq [~gcichowsk@chello084010211017.chello.pl] has joined #openttd 14:55:51 <MarkSlap> Where the f*ck is Bjarni? :D 14:56:16 <MarkSlap> He didn't like that I talked about drugs (Especilly acid) :> 14:56:24 <TrueBrain> I am seriously not interested in his fucking or not 15:00:03 <MarkSlap> What? 15:00:12 <TrueBrain> yeah, that was what I was thinking 15:00:37 <MarkSlap> Oh 15:00:38 <MarkSlap> (: 15:00:44 <MarkSlap> I dont understand it, so sure :> 15:01:29 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:54 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B041DBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:03:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> see, that is because of the drugs 15:03:57 <MarkSlap> :D 15:08:43 *** byq [~gcichowsk@chello084010211017.chello.pl] has left #openttd [] 15:13:44 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 15:19:06 *** mikk36|work [~mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined #openttd 15:21:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11371 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1396]: the industry protection only kicked in when it should not kick in. 15:25:59 *** mikk36|w [~mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11372 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1394]: don't stop on first invalid cargo type when displaying industry acceptance 15:36:07 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:45:25 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:45:37 <yorick> !seen dihedral 15:45:39 <_42_> yorick, dihedral (~dihedral@p54A0DECE.dip.t-dialin.net) was last seen quitting #openttdcoop 6 hours 11 minutes ago (03.11. 09:34) stating "Remote host closed the connection" after spending 10 minutes there. 15:56:21 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!] 16:07:07 <TrueBrain> want to see something really cool? 16:07:08 <TrueBrain> http://81.171.98.110:8084/ 16:07:09 <TrueBrain> :) 16:08:05 <TrueBrain> just don't get too close to the border, it fucks things up ;) 16:13:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host111-17-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 16:19:35 *** smoovi [smoovi@e178240002.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: #idlerpg] 16:29:09 *** BigBB_ [~BigBB@p5B04002D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:55 *** floffe [~floffe@85.8.5.138.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:00 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p54A07705.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:33:12 <Ailure> loading 16:33:16 <Ailure> I'm trying to figure out what that does 16:33:17 <Ailure> D: 16:33:49 <valhallasw> TrueBrain: it's not loading? :( 16:34:08 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 16:34:09 <Phazorx> it makes a nice tile map 16:34:21 <skidd13> Hi folks 16:34:23 <Phazorx> which you can scroll 16:34:46 <Ailure> ah now it loans 16:34:49 <Ailure> eh loads 16:34:51 <Ailure> probably just strained 16:34:55 <Ailure> very slow loading 16:35:12 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B041DBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:37:25 *** Uatec-Home [~Uatec@176-33.dsl.data.net.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:41:40 <SpComb> very slow 16:42:18 *** redmonkey [~redmonkey@p54A07705.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: quit] 16:49:12 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A6BF1.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 16:57:35 <TrueBrain> it should really be pretty fast 16:57:40 <TrueBrain> just it requires a lot of a browser :p 16:58:14 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-143-120.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:58:21 *** floffe [~floffe@85.8.5.138.static.se.wasadata.net] has left #openttd [l?r er svenska o sluta klaga] 17:00:21 <Gonozal_VIII> still loading 17:01:14 <Gonozal_VIII> what am i loading there?^^ 17:01:24 <SpComb> TrueBrain: it's not working 17:01:43 *** fjb [~frank@p5485BC30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:47 <fjb> Moin 17:01:47 <Gonozal_VIII> well, the loading has stopped 17:02:51 * Phazorx used opera and did not have issues, it loads pretty fast 17:02:55 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 17:03:10 <Gonozal_VIII> ff doesn't 17:03:20 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host81-158-75-110.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:04:23 <SpComb> I mean, it's not loading, at all 17:05:07 <Gonozal_VIII> is it supposed to be a blank page? 17:05:09 <fjb> Did anything break newindustries after r11362? 17:06:05 <Gonozal_VIII> didn't see any problems with ecs 17:06:40 <TrueBrain> SpComb: it was stuck :p Try again :) 17:07:00 <MarkSlap> AND NOW the acid has been kicked in 17:07:00 <MarkSlap> .D 17:07:02 <MarkSlap> :D* 17:07:06 <Gonozal_VIII> yay 17:07:42 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a part on the left side that looks funny 17:07:46 <fjb> Hm, when I create a new game in r11367 or 11370, then the ECS factory, ECS textile factory and the ECS vehicle factory don't accept anything. 17:08:34 <Gonozal_VIII> do you have the new grf? 17:08:51 <Gonozal_VIII> 2 days old or something 17:09:19 <fjb> Yes, the new machinery vector 17:09:21 <Gonozal_VIII> those buildings changed a lot 17:09:24 <SpComb> TrueBrain: now it's managed to load itself, but the frame thing isn't loading 17:09:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, the page is very screwy in konqueror 17:09:28 <Gonozal_VIII> but they work with me 17:09:32 <fjb> And all ECS grfs loaded in id order. 17:09:33 <TrueBrain> SpComb: enable JavaScript ;) 17:09:39 <SpComb> I have it enabled 17:09:43 <TrueBrain> and it needs to load a 100 KiB library(prototype) 17:09:45 <TrueBrain> that might take a while... 17:09:46 <SpComb> it just says "Loading..." 17:09:49 <SpComb> for a minute or so now 17:09:54 <TrueBrain> hit reload ;) 17:10:07 <SpComb> right, now I managed to get it 17:10:15 <SpComb> yay mouse-draggable map 17:11:01 <SpComb> uh oh, I scrolled to the edge of the map :( 17:11:05 <TrueBrain> don't :p 17:11:08 <TrueBrain> I need to fix that :) 17:11:12 <TrueBrain> hit F5 : 17:11:12 <TrueBrain> p 17:12:00 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, i should not scroll too fast 17:12:11 <TrueBrain> why not? 17:12:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i have some white tiles now 17:12:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> where "fast" is not the right description 17:12:17 <SpComb> does it do a request for every tile or something? 17:12:27 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: don't go near the border ;) 17:12:32 <TrueBrain> SpComb: no, per line 17:12:36 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't 17:12:38 <TrueBrain> so 40 tiles at once 17:12:41 <Gonozal_VIII> they are in the middle 17:12:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> TrueBrain: when i move, the next row of tiles is flat first, and only slowly builds up to the real heights 17:12:46 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: that happens, an update failed 17:12:52 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: yup 17:12:59 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: see it as fast moving in Google Maps 17:13:03 <TrueBrain> you first get a grey sprite 17:13:04 <Gonozal_VIII> no new request for those tiles? 17:13:05 <TrueBrain> then it loads the real thing 17:13:11 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: not yet, no 17:13:20 <Gonozal_VIII> ok 17:13:20 <TrueBrain> the code is there already, just didn't finished it yet :p 17:14:25 <TrueBrain> it is just a first version ;) 17:14:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> TrueBrain: occasionally, i get a white row instead of a row of flat tiles 17:15:14 <SpComb> but nice 17:15:15 <Gonozal_VIII> and for stupid people like me... what's different to ingame? is that 3d? 17:15:45 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: only looks that way: the flat tiles are on height 0, and you look at a hill, so it appears white, as you look into the hill 17:15:49 <TrueBrain> the flat tiles are there :p 17:16:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> it looks quite disturbing though 17:16:37 <TrueBrain> Eddi|zuHause3: shit happens ;) It will update itself in the end... when ever I finish that part :p 17:18:24 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't really understand what it does but looks nice^^ 17:19:07 <fjb> Can anybody reproduce it? Some ECS factories don't accept anything when the game got createt in r11367 or r11370. If the game got created with r11362 they accept the the usual things, even when the save gets loaded into r11367. 17:20:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i started the last game with 64.. 17:20:28 <Wolf01> TrueBrain, how i can set up an eggdrop to reply on some commands (and how to add them) in chan instead of dcc chat only, like !seen !logs etc 17:20:38 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Can you create a new game and see what happens? 17:21:31 <Gonozal_VIII> oooooh 17:21:41 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: What happened? 17:21:51 <Gonozal_VIII> the industry says it accepts but the stations don't 17:22:15 <Wolf01> too muck material on industry stockpile 17:22:23 <Wolf01> *much 17:22:25 <fjb> Gonozal_VIII: Click on the Industry with the questionmark. No tile accepts anything. 17:22:27 <Gonozal_VIII> new game, empty 17:22:32 <Wolf01> uhm 17:23:22 *** michi_cc [~michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:23:26 <Gonozal_VIII> seems he forgot to place the tiles that accept stuff 17:24:10 <fjb> Yes, but it works with the same ECS grfs in r11362 . 17:24:26 <TrueBrain> Wolf01: dunno, it was too long ago for me 17:24:33 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: it is a TT landscape in a webbrowser ;) 17:26:12 <Gonozal_VIII> i didn't have much time to play the last days, i enjoyed the new looks of those industries and that they seemed to have new stockpiling ability but did not actually play with that 17:26:54 <Gonozal_VIII> so i don't know if it was broken before or not 17:27:37 <fjb> The new industries are great. And the are working for me when the game got created in r11362. 17:27:38 *** lolman is now known as John 17:27:51 *** John is now known as lolman 17:27:52 <lolman> grr 17:28:03 <fjb> Belugas: ? 17:29:03 * TrueBrain is happy with his scrollable map :) 17:29:30 <fjb> TrueBrain: Can you give me the URL of your new masterpiece please? 17:29:41 <TrueBrain> http://81.171.98.110:8084/ 17:31:42 <fjb> YOu enhanced it from a few days ago? 17:31:52 <TrueBrain> rewrite from scratch, to be exact 17:32:06 <TrueBrain> bah, it is stuck again... 17:32:16 * TrueBrain restarts the server... I have to find out what is causing the lockups... 17:32:40 <Gonozal_VIII> that's really nice and such truelight but isn't that feature in the game since, like... 12 years? 17:32:43 <fjb> Cool 17:33:00 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: there is kind of a big difference between a standalone GUI and a webbrowser 17:33:21 <TrueBrain> fjb: you can now clck on the map, and drag around 17:34:04 *** BigBB_ [~BigBB@p5B04002D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:14 <Gonozal_VIII> <-- too n00b to understand that 17:34:19 <fjb> Better than the arrows. 17:34:49 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: basicly, this allows you to use any browsers anywhere in the world to login to this virtual world 17:35:09 <TrueBrain> no need to download, and things like 'max clients' is kind of different ;) 17:36:17 <Gonozal_VIII> soooooo you could make something like a 64k^2 map with 1k players at the same time? 17:36:20 <TrueBrain> it is a proof-of-concept of mine, to show that it is possible to do 17:36:25 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: for example, yes 17:36:37 <TrueBrain> AttributeError: 'HTTPConnection' object has no attribute 'rfile' <- lol, nice crash... 17:36:53 <TrueBrain> clearly the server has some stability issues :) 17:37:08 <fjb> Earthquake. :-) 17:39:23 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd the browsergame :D 17:39:24 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: if you check the time in which the pages are generated, and know a thing or 2 about dynamic pages, you will see that it is VERY fast; it is a combination of several modern techniques, to show nowedays it can be done to serve over a 1000 clients, while having a real-time game running, via a webbrowser 17:40:52 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:45:19 <fjb> r11364 is already broken... 17:46:40 <Gonozal_VIII> buuut in a real game you often need more than just a small part of the map 17:48:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 17:48:23 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has joined #openttd 17:49:17 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: only the server does ;) 17:49:19 <Gonozal_VIII> well... i have work to do... java coding... lalala.. n00b anyways 17:49:29 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 17:50:22 <fjb> Oh, ECS is not broken, the newly generated industried just need some days till the accept anything. But that is the case only with some industries. 17:51:01 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@p5483B82C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:01 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:54:14 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:54:14 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:20 *** BigBB [~BigBB@p5B04002D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:58:27 <fjb> Does the generatet landscape in TTDP look that different from a landscape in OpenTTD? 18:02:48 <TrueBrain> not if you use the old landscape generator ;0 18:02:55 <TrueBrain> (in both versions) 18:03:44 <Ailure> mm 18:03:47 <Ailure> the old landscapes 18:03:52 <Ailure> so wierdly looking 18:11:30 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-84-226-52-120.adslplus.ch] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:33 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:53 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:13:04 *** Ammlller [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-127-6.adslplus.ch] has joined #openttd 18:19:06 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@p5483B82C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Und weg...] 18:19:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:19:06 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:22:52 *** Dephenom [~paul@80.175.234.185] has joined #openttd 18:26:19 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4F6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:26:36 <skidd13> Hi again folks 18:28:20 <fjb> Moin skidd13 18:28:50 <fjb> How does a landscape look like that got generated by the old generator? 18:29:49 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83352.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:30:03 <skidd13> fjb: try yourself and compare :P 18:30:45 <Eddi|zuHause3> in TTO, landscapes were just very few basic hill layouts that were assembled to a map 18:31:24 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83E9C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:31:25 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 18:31:51 <Eddi|zuHause3> i don't know how far that changed in TTD 18:32:12 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:19 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 18:33:17 <fjb> Oh, the world looks strage now, but ECS industries get a lot faster placed. :-) 18:36:12 <fjb> The new landscapes are looking much better. Hope we get rivers one day. 18:37:26 <hylje> sealevel stuff will get there 18:37:30 <hylje> or its successor 18:38:20 <fjb> That means tunels uder the sea? 18:38:24 <fjb> under 18:39:05 <Gonozal_VIII> chrisin has that 18:39:42 <Gonozal_VIII> but it sounds fancier than it is.. long tunnels are not very usefull anyways 18:40:37 <fjb> ChrisIN gets really slow at the end of the game, and my computer is not thar slow (Athlon64 @ 2GHz). 18:41:28 <Gonozal_VIII> well... the last games we played were 256^2 that runs fast... 18:42:22 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:26 <Gonozal_VIII> with ecs that is enough for long hours of connecting all the industries 18:43:01 <MarkSlap> What is #openttdcoop? 18:43:03 <MarkSlap> :o 18:43:20 <hylje> cooperative openttd 18:43:22 <Gonozal_VIII> exactly what it sounds like 18:43:46 <fjb> 256² is too small for realistic trains... 18:44:02 <Gonozal_VIII> realistic trains are? 18:44:21 <hylje> more than 256 tiles long 18:44:26 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 18:44:34 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:44:59 <fjb> More than 10 tiles long. 18:45:24 <fjb> And it's not realistic that one station touches the next one. 18:45:46 <Gonozal_VIII> well... where i live i hardly ever see a train with more than 5 waggons 18:45:47 *** Kamikaz333 [Kamikaz333@505538d5-wlan.bestsave.hu] has joined #openttd 18:46:41 <fjb> You didn't see real coal trains then. Goods trains ususlly have more than 100 axles. 18:48:09 <Gonozal_VIII> they don't send many freight trains here, it's a small line 18:48:32 <MarkSlap> hylje and Gonozal_VIII :o 18:48:41 <hylje> :o :o :o 18:48:43 <MarkSlap> Ist in text or? 18:48:43 <fjb> Only small trains on small lines of course, but it is different on the main lines. 18:48:44 <MarkSlap> :D 18:49:18 <Gonozal_VIII> mostly passenger trains with three wagons and a driver thingy at the back so they don't have to turn around 18:49:35 <hylje> no multiple unit stuff? 18:49:43 <Tefad> landscape in old generator is a bunch of random rectangles 18:50:01 <fjb> On a small line you will hardly ever see that. 18:50:26 <Tefad> landscape in new generator looks like random gauss turned into heightmap. 18:50:50 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip72-192-9-149.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:04 <Tefad> where i live trains have hundreds of cars 18:51:09 <lws1984> Anyone here having issues with OpenTTD and OS X 10.5? 18:51:10 <Tefad> and three or more engines 18:51:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> <hylje> no multiple unit stuff? <- i have never seen any term closely resembling "multiple unit" being used in german train vocabulary 18:51:23 <hylje> :o 18:51:46 <Tefad> and they usually have a bunch of tractor trailers and or shipping containers 18:52:03 <hylje> what do you call those complete trains then? 18:52:10 <Tefad> regular trains? 18:52:20 <fjb> Trains? :-) 18:52:22 <hylje> as opposed to loco-wagons 18:52:44 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, you have the term "Triebwagen" 18:52:49 <Tefad> i don't see much raw materials on the lines around here, except coal 18:53:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> which means a self driving wagon 18:53:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> occasionally "Schienenbus" (=railcar?) 18:53:34 *** Sacro` [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:53:46 <Gonozal_VIII> they sometimes use very overpowered engines here... "taurus" pulling 3 passenger cars and such 18:54:06 <hylje> isnt "taurus" a maglev loco in ttd? 18:54:14 <Tefad> they have interesting cars that hold tall objects (i've never seen one loaded) with warning label "do not unload one side all at once" 18:54:18 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@p5483B82C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:54:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 18:54:29 <Sacro`> grr 18:54:45 <Gonozal_VIII> it's the strongest electric engine in the dbset 18:56:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> hylje: anyway, a distinction between single self driving units and multiple self driving units is kinda artificial in my eyes 18:56:57 <Gonozal_VIII> BR 182 :-) 18:57:28 <lws1984> Belugas? (If I remember correctly, you're the resident Mac expert) 18:57:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> 182? i don't remember that one, when does it come out? 18:57:57 <Gonozal_VIII> 2001 18:58:23 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has joined #openttd 18:59:29 *** Sacro [Ben@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:59:34 <Gonozal_VIII> i use them on almost every train in the late game 18:59:59 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 19:00:19 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:19 <Eddi|zuHause3> i think i never really did a late game 19:01:48 <Gonozal_VIII> a game is so short without daylength patch... 19:01:51 <skidd13> lws1984: IIRC it's Bjarni not Belugas :D 19:02:17 <Sacro> yes, Belugas is the residient diving canadian 19:03:12 *** Kamikaz333 [Kamikaz333@505538d5-wlan.bestsave.hu] has left #openttd [] 19:04:08 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176125156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:09:08 <Gonozal_VIII> i used to play with 14 part trains, just because that station lenght was easy to build, later i just disabled very long trains and made them old max length 19:09:50 <lws1984> skidd13: ah, thanks. 19:09:57 <lws1984> and bjarni isn't here. :( 19:10:00 <Tefad> laylength patch? 19:10:03 <Tefad> er day. 19:10:10 <lws1984> !seen Bjarni 19:10:13 <_42_> lws1984, Bjarni (~Bjarni@0x50c79a03.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) was last seen quitting #openttd.notice 2 days 17 hours 33 minutes ago (01.11. 01:36) stating "Quit: zzz" after spending 4 hours 16 minutes there. 19:10:23 <Gonozal_VIII> more ticks per day 19:10:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> increase the length of days, so you can play longer in a certain era (like steam) 19:10:48 <Tefad> neat. 19:10:58 <Ailure> he 19:10:59 <Ailure> heh 19:11:00 <Tefad> is this in svn? 19:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> no 19:11:07 <Ailure> what I like the idea with something like the daylength patch 19:11:08 <Gonozal_VIII> chrisin 19:11:12 <Tefad> nards 19:11:15 <Ailure> is that it would allow a game to go on for a month 19:11:18 <Ailure> real-time 19:11:29 <Ailure> so you can like, play once a hour or something heh 19:11:29 <Gonozal_VIII> max factor is 30 19:11:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, there are some disputes about the actual effect of the patch 19:12:05 <Gonozal_VIII> i think that's somewhere around a minute per day... 66 seconds or something 19:12:07 <Ailure> I noticed 19:12:15 <Ailure> there's been severeal versions 19:12:16 <Tefad> nice 19:12:37 <Tefad> does this affect vehicle speeds? 19:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> one type wants to simply make the game slower (industrial development, train speeds, payment rates) 19:12:41 <Gonozal_VIII> breakdowns are not affected 19:12:59 <Tefad> breakdowns piss me off, i generally disable them : x 19:12:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> and the other type simply wants the same game with slower advancing dates 19:13:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> the current patch achieves the second version 19:13:34 <Tefad> no matter how many depots i have, they always manage to block in important route for an extended time period. 19:13:39 <Ailure> I would prefer the game slower heh 19:13:42 <Tefad> an, not in. 19:13:54 <Ailure> which would mean you could spend a bit on building a network 19:13:59 <Ailure> then leave for a few hours and come back 19:14:05 <Ailure> without people having catched up too much :p 19:14:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i would prefer that also, but i could not really convince any of the different coders that previously attempted a daylength patch 19:14:32 <Tefad> aww i kind of liked pre-r11366 behavior 19:14:44 <Tefad> it was amusing ; ) 19:14:48 <Ailure> sounds like something I would code in 19:14:57 <Ailure> could always like 19:15:16 *** gono_ping_timeout [~Gonozal_V@N747P005.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 19:15:17 <Ailure> make income the same, but costs multiplied by the daylength multiplier 19:15:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, the difficulty in this is finding a system as to which game rules should be tick-based (keep current speed) or day-based (make slower) 19:16:12 <Ailure> or at least tweaked so a train would make as much money in 1 year on 1x setting compared to 1 year on 30x setting 19:16:20 <Ailure> yeah 19:16:24 <Ailure> the game is pretty much tick-based too 19:16:58 <Ailure> and some things should stay that way too 19:17:02 <Ailure> such as the movement of vehicles 19:17:08 <gono_ping_timeout> hehe 19:17:16 <gono_ping_timeout> 30 times slower ships^^ 19:17:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N906P029.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:17:22 <Ailure> otherwise it would look ridicolus at 30x 19:17:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, Celestar said he would put something like that into the game balance branch, but then he dropped out 19:17:33 <Ailure> with a maglev train going 20 km/h 19:17:35 <Ailure> ah 19:18:10 <Ailure> It's something I would want, since it might improve multiplayer 19:18:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, there it gets difficult, if you don't want to modify speed, this means a train arrives 30 times as often on 30x daylength 19:18:57 <Ailure> heh 19:19:01 <Ailure> that's not a problem in itself 19:19:04 <Ailure> but balancing it is 19:19:19 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4F6F.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:19:28 <gono_ping_timeout> it also has 30 times more running cost 19:19:33 <Ailure> and same for industry logic 19:20:06 <Ailure> I dunno 19:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause3> gono_ping_timeout: which is stupid, because running costs are supposed to be year based 19:20:12 <Ailure> it's running cost should be less in terms of ticks 19:20:16 <Ailure> but the same in terms of ingame days 19:20:28 <gono_ping_timeout> well but they are in chrisin 19:20:36 *** gono_ping_timeout is now known as Gonozal_VIII 19:20:52 <Ailure> I think that's a daylength patch 19:20:57 <Ailure> where the economy isn't really affected 19:20:59 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: which is exactly the problem 19:21:02 <Ailure> in terms of ticks 19:21:20 <Gonozal_VIII> they are year based, the values are 30 times higher 19:21:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: which is again exactly the problem 19:21:48 <Gonozal_VIII> why? 19:22:08 <Ailure> well 19:22:10 <Ailure> what we kind of want 19:22:17 <Ailure> is that a train on the same route, with same engine 19:22:26 <Ailure> should earn as much on 1x setting as on 30x setting 19:22:28 <Ailure> over a year 19:22:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> the value should stay constant independent on daylength, because it is running cost per year, and the vehicleset designers chose them for a realistic aspect 19:22:37 <Ailure> without the vehicle being slowed down 19:22:53 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 19:23:24 <Gonozal_VIII> then let the industries produce the same ammount, not 30 times more, then the train can only make one tour :-) 19:23:38 <Eddi|zuHause3> it is totally stupid if a vehicle costs 3 times more to run for a year than to buy 19:25:07 <Tefad> how hard would it be to just lengthen a tick 19:25:20 <Tefad> to slow the whole thing down 19:25:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> Tefad: this is not wanted, because the trains should still (visibly) move at the same speed 19:25:36 <Tefad> i know there's the ">>" button which is like simcity african swallow 19:25:47 <Tefad> do the opposite of that 19:26:16 <Tefad> opposite..converse whatever 19:26:17 <Eddi|zuHause3> Tefad: this is easy, just turn on YAPF for ships ;) 19:26:19 <Tefad> inverse 19:26:36 <Eddi|zuHause3> or better, NPF ;) 19:26:40 <Tefad> heh.. 19:26:52 <Tefad> there's a bunch of off-by-one problems in gui window placement btw 19:26:55 <Tefad> unless it's intentional 19:27:39 <Tefad> for some reason, when there's a 1px gap in gui elements, my cpu cycles go way up 19:28:09 <Tefad> (1px is example, i'm guessing it occurs when there's any gap) 19:28:38 <Tefad> does anyone else have this same observation? 19:29:26 <hylje> probably something with the way its drawn 19:31:12 <Tefad> it's off by two actually 19:31:21 <Tefad> it's the vehicle window placement 19:31:52 <Tefad> hell window placement in general seems pretty hosec 19:31:54 <Tefad> d. 19:32:14 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:32:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm, funny, i have 3 recordings of reruns of the same show distributed over a year, each with two commercial breaks, the first commercial break is always at the same spot, and the second break always at a different spot... 19:33:00 <hylje> how astonishing 19:34:09 <Gonozal_VIII> ... why would somebody analyse that? 19:35:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, i want to cut the 3 different airings into one recording that does not have any interruptions 19:35:31 <Gonozal_VIII> you only need one to do that? 19:36:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> not for the "popup" stuff 19:36:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> which is often accompanied by a loud noise 19:36:30 <Gonozal_VIII> that sucks... 19:37:04 <Gonozal_VIII> i hate that kind of commercial 19:38:25 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 19:38:48 <Gonozal_VIII> at least sometimes there are good films in austrian tv... free of commercials... but only sometimes 19:40:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, it's technically not a commercial, there are 3 kinds of "popups", one is the show name after each commercial break, or the name of the next show, one is a popup like "buy DVDs of this show on [blah]" or "get this melody as ringtone" and the most annoying kind is preview popups like "series XY starts tonight at 20:15" 19:42:33 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:42:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> although i did notice that the 3rd kind reduced over the past few months 19:43:02 *** Arpad [~Gali@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:43:27 <Eddi|zuHause3> there were times where you got two of these in every 1h show 19:43:42 <Eddi|zuHause3> sometimes announcing shows a week in advance 19:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause3> meaning you got to see the same stupid interruption with the same loud noise over the course of one week 19:44:29 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 19:44:30 *** Arpad [debian-tor@tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:45:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> now it's only occasionally, when a "big event" is upcoming 19:46:11 <Eddi|zuHause3> on the other hand, the second kind used to be without noise, but now they added a "beep" 19:46:16 <hylje> feedback 19:46:57 <Gonozal_VIII> you really pay a lot of attention to those commercials... 19:47:54 <Gonozal_VIII> i watch lots of german tv stations but i have no idea what you're talking about^^ 19:48:01 <Eddi|zuHause3> well, you usually do not pay attention when watching a live show 19:48:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> but when you have recordings, especially different recordings of the same show in parallel, you easily notice that stuff 19:52:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> Gonozal_VIII: clearly someone notices when he wants to watch a show, but the whole picture is rotating because they are doing an announcement that spiderman is playing next sunday 19:57:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> which is even more annoying if that announced spiderman airing was over a year ago 20:01:38 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:05:04 <Ailure> it's even more weird when you have downloaded it over internet 20:05:21 <Ailure> :P 20:05:28 <Ailure> and live in a way diffrent country 20:05:53 <hylje> one kinda expects that 20:06:10 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:08 *** BJH2_ [~chatzilla@e176123018.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 20:09:29 *** Purno_ [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 20:09:38 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:35 <Rubidium> lws1984: I wouldn't expect much "help" from Bjarni as he kinda refuses to install Leopard on his system. 20:11:49 <lws1984> Rubidium: oh? 20:11:50 <lws1984> hm. 20:11:52 *** BJH2 [~chatzilla@e176125156.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:11:55 * lws1984 is using it in Parallels anyway, so no matter 20:12:40 <Rubidium> fjb: you say ECS starts behaving wrongly between r11362 and r11364? 20:12:40 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.luckyninja.com/flash/looking_for_my_leopard.swf :D 20:13:19 <Gonozal_VIII> no it was only some kind of construction state thingy 20:14:14 <Gonozal_VIII> [18:50:21] fjb: Oh, ECS is not broken, the newly generated industried just need some days till the accept anything. But that is the case only with some industries. 20:21:31 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc70.host25.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 20:22:15 <fjb> Yes, I just didn't notice that behavior before. But george confirmed that that can happen, so no fault of OpenTTD, just a bit confusing. 20:28:49 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 20:33:09 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:33:38 <Phazorx> is it possible to calculate "proper income" knowing current and starting year with inflation being on ? 20:33:57 <Phazorx> is there a formula somewhere how inflation is calculated? 20:34:40 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.83] has joined #openttd 20:35:33 <Eddi|zuHause3> from a theoretical point of view, inflation is a geometric series 20:36:29 <Eddi|zuHause3> assuming constant inflation rate q, the effective price after n years is p*(1+q+q^2+q^3+...+q^n) 20:36:52 *** Grey [~Greyscale@host81-152-79-86.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:37:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> you can expand this sum to (1-q^(n+1))/(1-q) 20:37:36 <Gonozal_VIII> that's why i always play with inflation off... too much math 20:38:22 <UnderBuilder> we should introduce a campaign for increasing the amount of nightly game servers 20:38:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> note, if the inflation rate is 3%, q=1.03 20:41:32 *** lolman [~lolman@adsl-87-102-80-216.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 20:41:33 *** lolman is now known as John 20:41:40 *** John is now known as lolman 20:45:50 <hylje> i lolman 20:48:05 <Eddi|zuHause3> i tarzan 20:49:24 <Sacro> i robot 20:50:29 <Diabolic-Angel> i pod 20:50:40 <lws1984> i poo'd 20:51:26 <hylje> this is very silly 20:51:53 <Gonozal_VIII> i silly 20:53:36 <lws1984> i Æail 20:53:37 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-105.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: saato] 20:53:38 *** lolman is now known as John 20:53:53 *** John is now known as lolman 20:54:47 *** lolman is now known as John 20:54:55 *** John is now known as lolman 20:54:58 <lolman> Gah 20:56:26 <MarkSlap> lolman? 20:56:28 <MarkSlap> Wtf 20:57:15 <hylje> John "lolman" Doe 20:57:57 <MarkSlap> Exactly :> 20:58:32 <Sacro> Bjarni named him 20:58:41 <MarkSlap> Aaaaw 20:58:42 <MarkSlap> Cute 20:59:09 <Gonozal_VIII> wasn't there something with 89? 20:59:47 <Sacro> JohnUK89 20:59:54 <Sacro> @Seen JohnUK89 20:59:55 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen JohnUK89. 21:00:05 <Gonozal_VIII> wow, my brain works 21:03:23 <TrueBrain> we really need a better patch-tracker... 21:03:44 <MarkSlap> :D 21:04:37 <Sacro> trac? 21:04:39 <hylje> think i could take up mine again 21:04:44 <TrueBrain> Sacro: sucks even worse 21:04:49 <TrueBrain> hylje: please do 21:05:20 <hylje> ill see to it, no promises though :( 21:05:27 <TrueBrain> tnx anyway :) 21:05:44 <Gonozal_VIII> what about a forum section where every patch has a topic and no other topics are allowed? 21:06:07 <Sacro> dev froum? 21:06:26 <Gonozal_VIII> ttd forum :-) 21:06:35 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: not useful either 21:06:39 <Gonozal_VIII> tt forum.. 21:06:43 <TrueBrain> what I miss is to see if I replied to a patch 21:06:46 <TrueBrain> and if there is a new version 21:07:03 <TrueBrain> what hylje designed, on my draft (:p), is a system to do that, even allowing you to mark when a comment is done 21:07:23 <Gonozal_VIII> ok :-) 21:11:29 <TrueBrain> maybe a maillist like ffmpeg 21:11:31 <TrueBrain> that is pretty useful 21:11:56 <hylje> maybe 21:12:07 <TrueBrain> I liked it on ffmpeg, although a lot is coming through 21:12:26 <TrueBrain> but it was simple, as developer you could see really fast what had a reply and what not.. 21:12:34 <TrueBrain> downside is that patches tend to get lost when not applied fast 21:15:15 *** blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 21:16:02 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7855.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:09 <TrueBrain> hi skidd13 21:16:15 <skidd13> Hi Brain 21:16:26 <hylje> hi both 21:17:33 <skidd13> Does anyone can tell me something about the performance of _ffb_64[...]? 21:17:45 <TrueBrain> not a single thing 21:17:47 <TrueBrain> not even what it does :) 21:18:42 *** lws1984 [~lws1984@ip72-192-9-149.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit [Quit: BRB] 21:19:00 <skidd13> TrueBrain: It' used in the KillFirstBit and FindFirstBit functions. 21:19:07 <TrueBrain> ah, those things 21:19:08 *** DaleStan_ [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 21:20:08 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:23:54 *** ludde [~ludde@ua-83-227-238-252.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 21:23:57 <ludde> hi 21:24:25 <skidd13> Hi 21:24:34 <ludde> sup 21:25:37 *** DaleStan [~Dale@pool-71-98-83-82.ipslin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:27:07 <skidd13> TrueBrain: A profiling session with only one compiler is not representative IMO. There should be tests with the common compilers (windows, linux, OS X). 21:27:27 <TrueBrain> skidd13: agree'd. But a profile of one compiler really is a good start ;) 21:27:30 <TrueBrain> hi ludde 21:27:32 <TrueBrain> what brings you here? :) 21:27:38 <TrueBrain> (in other words: nice to see you1) 21:27:56 <ludde> i just felt like coming by and saying hello 21:28:06 <TrueBrain> well: hello back to you :) 21:28:10 <TrueBrain> how are you these days? 21:28:18 <hylje> oh, its ludde 21:28:43 <skidd13> TrueBrain: what profiling tool do you suggest? 21:28:46 <Tefad> howdy ludde 21:28:54 <TrueBrain> skidd13: I always use gprof, but any will do I guess 21:29:21 <ludde> i'm good, now that I quit utorrent I work with Spotify instead. 21:29:31 <Tefad> O_o 21:29:32 <ludde> it's not released yet, but it's a music player 21:29:35 <ludde> www.spotify.com 21:29:50 <Tefad> interesting.. 21:30:23 <TrueBrain> as always, lightweight ;) Not bad! 21:30:24 <skidd13> looks nice! 21:30:38 <ludde> the exe is <1MB :) 21:30:42 <Tefad> so bascially itunes replacement? 21:30:53 <TrueBrain> Good old ludde :) 21:31:09 <ludde> you don't play mp3 from your disk. but from a central server 21:31:19 <hylje> :o 21:31:20 <Tefad> only mp3? 21:31:21 <ludde> so you can find any song and play it instantly 21:31:22 <hylje> magic 21:31:28 <TrueBrain> ludde: and how much is it going to cost? :) 21:31:41 <Tefad> so it's ondemand streaming? 21:31:46 <ludde> well, you don't really care about what format it is.. just click on a song and it starts playing faster than it would if you were using itunes locally :) 21:31:56 <ludde> Tefad: yes 21:32:13 <ludde> TrueBrain: it's free, but then you get ads every 30 mins or so. 21:32:23 <Tefad> ah neat 21:32:25 <TrueBrain> so infinite free music, for some ads? 21:32:29 <ludde> yes 21:32:38 <Tefad> so basically it's like radio.. 21:32:40 <TrueBrain> sounds hard to believe ;) 21:32:40 * Smoovious touches the brim of his black hat to ludde 21:32:48 <ludde> TrueBrain: :) 21:32:52 <TrueBrain> but would be really nice :) 21:32:56 <Tefad> audio ads or visual ads? 21:32:58 <Smoovious> how ya doin', ludde? 21:32:59 <ludde> both 21:33:11 <Tefad> anything that spawns browsers? 21:33:13 <ludde> Tefad: it works just like radio ads 21:33:20 <ludde> Tefad: only if you click the ad 21:33:25 * Tefad nods 21:33:39 <ludde> Smoovious: i'm doing well 21:33:51 <ludde> my back still isn't healed thou :( 21:33:53 <Tefad> is it community based or all behind closed doors? 21:33:54 <Smoovious> good to hear 21:34:08 <Tefad> (music source) 21:34:09 <Smoovious> oh that sucks... from the train incident? 21:34:26 <ludde> yes 21:34:29 <Smoovious> :( 21:34:35 <ludde> Tefad: no community 21:34:42 <ludde> Tefad: we do have beta testing though 21:34:44 <Tefad> audio format is arbitrary? 21:34:48 <ludde> Tefad: but only for swedish ppl 21:35:01 <Tefad> or are you guys locked to one codec 21:35:02 <ludde> Tefad: audio format is mp3 right now, but it's not really something the user notices. 21:35:14 <ludde> Tefad: we're looking into switching to some other format. 21:35:16 <TrueBrain> ludde: Windwos only? 21:35:21 <ludde> windows, osx 21:35:26 <TrueBrain> no linux? :( 21:35:27 <TrueBrain> hehe :) 21:35:38 <ludde> not now 21:35:44 <Tefad> if you guys are worried about license fees, i'm sure you know where to look ; ) 21:36:01 * Smoovious is a truck driver now. 21:36:11 <Tefad> even if this product was available for linux i don't see many linux users that would be interested 21:36:20 <TrueBrain> hmm, now a songs popup into mind... tnx Smoovious :p 21:36:21 <Tefad> except those on ubuntu ; ) 21:36:30 <TrueBrain> Tefad: and why would that be? 21:36:41 * Smoovious grins at TrueBrain 21:36:51 <Tefad> because many linux users are linux users for a reason 21:37:00 <TrueBrain> talking about music... that I didn't put on today! 21:37:04 <TrueBrain> Tefad: to not listen music? 21:37:08 <TrueBrain> now that is a rather silly statement 21:37:25 *** DaleStan_ is now known as DaleStan 21:37:30 <Eddi|zuHause3> i'm linux user because windows annoyed me with constant need of rebooting 21:37:38 <Tefad> i'm not trying to start flamewar : \ 21:37:45 <Tefad> i listen to plenty of music 21:37:48 <Eddi|zuHause3> and i am listening to music all the time 21:37:58 <Eddi|zuHause3> like, right now... 21:37:58 <Tefad> however, i stay away from binary blobs as much as i can 21:38:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> "blob" means "binary large object", so the "binary" is redundant 21:38:52 <Tefad> blob can also mean goo-like creature 21:38:58 <TrueBrain> Kiss Me! (8) 21:38:59 <Tefad> so i am reduntant on purpose. 21:39:06 <Tefad> also, i can't spell redundant. 21:39:19 <Tefad> moving on : D 21:39:47 <Eddi|zuHause3> the german term is "doppelt gemoppelt", but i'm not sure if there is even a close translation 21:40:16 <Gonozal_VIII> pudelhund & spaghettinudel 21:41:17 <Tefad> heh 21:41:30 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause3: Try latin -> Hendiadyoin 21:42:07 *** huma [~huma@89.19.167.191] has joined #openttd 21:42:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> that supposed to be latin? 21:42:27 <Tefad> how is y latin 21:42:53 <skidd13> Its rhetoric so latin should be valid for many languages as technical term 21:43:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have absolutely no clue what you are talking about... 21:43:22 * Tefad sighs 21:43:38 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause3: "doppelt gemoppelt" 21:43:52 <TrueBrain> huma: I have something for you: 21:43:55 <TrueBrain> http://81.171.98.110:8084/ <- new and improved ;) 21:43:56 <TrueBrain> hehe 21:44:00 <huma> yum! 21:44:38 <TrueBrain> too bad any higher resolution than 320x200 as TT screen needs.. well.. a beast of a client-machine ;) 21:44:45 <TrueBrain> btw, don't go near edges, it is broken :) 21:44:45 <Gonozal_VIII> still doesn't like the borders ;-) 21:45:03 <skidd13> Eddi|zuHause3: Hendiadyoin is the technical term (in latin) for a thing that is colloquial called "doppelt gemoppelt" 21:45:06 <huma> TrueBrain, is there arctic? :) 21:45:13 <TrueBrain> huma: nope :p Still no arctic :) 21:45:23 <TrueBrain> I was about to add it, but... I found more important things :) 21:45:38 <huma> :( 21:45:46 <Gonozal_VIII> what's new? 21:46:01 <skidd13> TrueBrain: WTF you added mouse scroll :O 21:46:05 <huma> what can be more important than that? 21:46:06 <TrueBrain> skidd13: yup :) 21:46:14 <TrueBrain> you like it? :) 21:46:22 <skidd13> :D :D :D 21:46:27 <huma> haha 21:46:29 <huma> cool 21:46:38 <TrueBrain> as I said long ago: it is just waiting for the time a whole OS comes to you via a browser :p 21:46:58 <huma> webtt :) 21:47:04 <huma> he's serious about it :) 21:47:05 <TrueBrain> if there would be an easy way to add OpenTTD to python via bindings, you could in fact have the game done in several days 21:47:05 <skidd13> TrueBrain:http://www.eyeos.info/ 21:47:37 <Gonozal_VIII> just put a dos floppy online 21:47:56 <TrueBrain> skidd13: I rest my case ;) 21:48:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> only problem i have is that in conventional TT you scroll with right mouse button... 21:48:27 <huma> eh, i'm client #5, it doesn't greet me by name :( 21:48:33 <TrueBrain> huma: hehe :) 21:48:50 <TrueBrain> I am more amazed by the performance :) 21:48:53 <TrueBrain> hmm, yet an other crash... 21:48:54 <hylje> python bindings for openttd, ingenious 21:48:58 <TrueBrain> HTTPConnection seems faulty.. 21:49:18 <huma> how about the source? 21:49:20 <TrueBrain> skidd13: eyeos is very nicely done :) 21:49:25 <TrueBrain> huma: closed :) 21:49:29 <huma> and the server settings 21:49:33 <huma> at least 21:49:36 <skidd13> TrueBrain: yup 21:50:00 <TrueBrain> haha, a process list :) 21:50:17 <Tefad> what is this project? 21:50:25 <TrueBrain> Tefad: 'this'? 21:50:30 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@pc70.host25.starman.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]] 21:50:38 <Tefad> i'm confused 21:50:43 <Gonozal_VIII> no desyncs and instant join on any mapsize :-) 21:50:44 <TrueBrain> yup, me too :) 21:50:59 <huma> Tefad, it's a webtt - web based openttd game 21:51:06 <Tefad> whaaa 21:51:16 <huma> TrueBrain promises to finish it next week 21:51:26 <TrueBrain> only in your dreams 21:51:29 <huma> :) 21:51:32 <TrueBrain> which reminds me: I don't want to know what you dream about 21:51:45 <Tefad> is it just me or is scrolling absurdly slow 21:51:52 <huma> my christmas vacation :) 21:51:56 <TrueBrain> Tefad: only if your computer can't handle it :) 21:52:03 <TrueBrain> it moves 30 divs every time you scroll 21:52:07 <Tefad> i guess 2.4GHz isn't enough 21:52:09 <TrueBrain> on some computers this is as fast as lightning 21:52:12 <TrueBrain> on others it is dead slow.. 21:52:35 <huma> it's quite fast for me 21:52:41 <Tefad> browser? 21:52:45 <huma> ff 21:52:46 <TrueBrain> FF 21:52:49 <Tefad> OS? 21:52:54 <huma> xp 21:52:59 <TrueBrain> linux here 21:53:01 <Tefad> weird. 21:53:03 <TrueBrain> so it really is your computer :p 21:53:04 <Tefad> linux+ff 21:53:07 <Phazorx> oh... nice to see ludde here 21:53:13 <skidd13> Tefad: 2.4GHz doesn't mean anything.... Compare a 2.4GHZ sparc with a 2.4GHz intel 21:53:13 <Gonozal_VIII> 40 tiles per request? the white lines that appear sometimes are only 20 tiles 21:53:25 <TrueBrain> Gonozal_VIII: yup, non-lineair requests :) 21:53:29 <Tefad> skidd13: heh, no long it does 21:53:34 <Tefad> it used to.. back in the day 21:53:40 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has joined #openttd 21:53:42 <Tefad> it's hard to gauge performance now : \ 21:53:57 <Phazorx> i wonder if anyone noticed a name of global company manager on the wwottdgd game 21:54:35 <huma> damn, why it gives me like 5 alerts about session timeout? :) 21:54:47 <TrueBrain> huma: because that part is pretty unfinihsed :) 21:54:58 <TrueBrain> but it already detects it! That is something ;) 21:55:02 <huma> amnesiac edition? :) 21:55:31 <huma> yes, nice work 21:55:46 <TrueBrain> tnx :) I wonder if I will ever continue on it, but okay :p 21:55:53 <Tefad> i get much better formance in ff under winde than i do with native ff. 21:55:55 * huma gives TrueBrain a cookie 21:55:59 <Tefad> performance too 21:56:02 <TrueBrain> www.amazon.com? :) 21:56:06 <Tefad> and i mean wine 21:56:13 <TrueBrain> Tefad: weird... maybe you installed FF wrong? :p 21:56:24 <Tefad> i compiled it myself if that's what you mean : x 21:56:36 <Gonozal_VIII> openttd as a massive multiplayer browsergame thousands of players on a giant map with a daylength of 24 minutes or something like that^^ 21:57:02 <TrueBrain> Tefad: yes 21:57:31 <TrueBrain> I just really wonder what the server can handle... how much concurrent connections and stuff... 21:57:34 <Tefad> i get like 1-2fps in wine-ff 21:58:15 *** cybermage [~cybermage@gw.cybercave.cz] has joined #openttd 21:58:24 <TrueBrain> it takes 0.6ms to handle a single client, which happens on scrolling once in the 100ms.. the game logic needs 5ms every 30ms, so that is 150ms every second; a client needs 6ms every second.. that gives.. 21:58:31 <TrueBrain> @calc (1000 - 150) / 6 21:58:31 <DorpsGek> TrueBrain: 141.666666667 21:58:36 <TrueBrain> 141 clients per server 21:59:00 <TrueBrain> so I guess it won't be a 30ms per tick game ;) 21:59:03 <cybermage> hi guys, Is it possible to disable autosave on running server ? 21:59:17 <Tefad> yeesh, native-ff just sucks completely 21:59:29 <TrueBrain> Tefad: install the pre-built binary 22:00:14 <Tefad> argh message bombed in opera 22:00:27 <Tefad> java script errors one after the other. 22:00:43 <TrueBrain> weird 22:00:48 <TrueBrain> what kind of errors? 22:00:50 <Tefad> session timeout 22:00:54 <TrueBrain> reload ;) 22:01:00 <TrueBrain> server had a hick-up, so needed a restart 22:01:30 <TrueBrain> hmm, and again.. 22:02:41 <huma> what caused it? 22:02:53 <TrueBrain> dunno... something hits an infinite loop, so it seems 22:03:04 <TrueBrain> I use stackless python, and some custom http servers.. not really tested ;) 22:03:17 <Tefad> again. 22:03:19 <Tefad> looped 22:03:33 <Sacro> hmm, this spotify looks cool 22:03:34 *** jonty-comp [~jonty-com@88-107-127-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 22:03:45 <huma> yea, i wrote a neat xsl once that kept crashing websphere :) 22:04:10 <TrueBrain> making things crash is easy... keeping things from crashing on the other hand... 22:04:49 <TrueBrain> but okay, byebye server :) Showtime over ;) 22:04:49 <TrueBrain> hehe 22:04:50 <huma> crash is an art too 22:05:00 <Tefad> cannot connect 22:05:03 <hylje> stackless silently crashes on deadlocks 22:05:28 <TrueBrain> hylje: I don't make deadlocks ;) 22:05:41 <huma> maybe i should try jwebtt :) 22:06:39 <TrueBrain> feel free :) 22:06:52 <TrueBrain> let me know if you can get the same performance (Server-wise) 22:07:13 <huma> and there won't be green fields :) 22:07:21 <TrueBrain> hehe 22:07:23 <TrueBrain> not unexpected ;) 22:07:33 <TrueBrain> arctic lover 22:08:00 <Tefad> arctic is too bright for me 22:08:08 <TrueBrain> to dead for me 22:08:10 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB6F70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:08:24 <Tefad> it'd be fun to see the night-time set cover everything 22:08:41 <TrueBrain> extend it ;) 22:08:46 <huma> it's nice and crispy :) 22:09:08 <huma> there's a patch for that 22:09:14 <huma> i've seen somewhere 22:09:22 <Tefad> i'm not fond of convoluted graphics systems and limited palette art *shrug* 22:09:37 <Tefad> nor do i claim to be a great artist 22:09:46 <Gonozal_VIII> there's a monitor setting for that, it's called gamma :-) 22:09:54 <Tefad> i'd be more interested in implimenting a better AI 22:10:03 <TrueBrain> Tefad: so, load up NoAI 22:10:13 <Tefad> no idea what that is 22:10:19 <hylje> a branch 22:10:23 <TrueBrain> you are intersted in AIs, and don't know NoAI? 22:10:25 <TrueBrain> bad :) 22:10:26 <Tefad> is it in cvs? 22:10:30 <Tefad> er svn 22:10:36 <TrueBrain> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=30933 22:10:47 <TrueBrain> http://nightly.openttd.org/noai/scoreboard.php 22:12:01 <Tefad> wtf squirrel 22:12:08 <TrueBrain> a script language 22:12:14 <TrueBrain> very simular to C++ 22:13:00 <Tefad> so it's a competitor to LUA 22:13:46 <TrueBrain> nope 22:13:49 <TrueBrain> it is an addition to it :) 22:13:58 <TrueBrain> (lua doesn't have objects, Squirrel does) 22:14:12 <Gonozal_VIII> yay objects 22:14:12 <Tefad> objects != lightweight 22:14:16 * Tefad sighs 22:14:20 <TrueBrain> it is in Squirrel's case 22:14:22 *** jonty-comp [~jonty-com@88-107-127-198.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: Bye for now!] 22:14:32 <TrueBrain> as 'objects != lightweight' is NOT by default true 22:14:40 <Tefad> lies. 22:14:41 <Sacro> there is no sunos_sparc build :( 22:14:45 <Tefad> assembly is lightweight ; ) 22:14:53 <TrueBrain> Sacro: give me the binaries and I make it for you :) 22:15:02 <TrueBrain> Tefad: depends very much on your point of view 22:15:04 <Sacro> the binaries? 22:15:09 <Tefad> zero overhead. 22:15:11 <TrueBrain> Tefad: I see you porting TTDp to linux? 22:15:17 <Tefad> ttdp? 22:15:23 <TrueBrain> means writing a virtual machine... there your 'zero overhead' goes ;) 22:15:31 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I need files from a sunos sparc 22:15:38 <Sacro> Tefad: which files? 22:15:39 <TrueBrain> crt0.o 22:15:41 <TrueBrain> files like that 22:15:42 <Sacro> i need to boot mine 22:15:43 <Tefad> what the 22:15:46 <TrueBrain> include-file 22:15:51 <Sacro> but i need a converter cable 22:15:54 <Tefad> who what 22:15:55 <Sacro> 13W3 to VGA 22:16:02 <Tefad> i have such a cable 22:16:07 <Tefad> however, my sparc has VGA 22:16:13 <Tefad> and also doesn't post : \ 22:16:20 <Sacro> heh 22:16:20 <Tefad> my alpha almost posts, then fails it. 22:16:24 <TrueBrain> Sacro: I also still need someone who has a 64bit sunos 22:16:33 <Sacro> hmmm 22:16:35 <Sacro> i have 64bit solaris 22:16:52 <Tefad> isn't sunos rather dated? 22:16:52 <cybermage> TrueBrain: virtualization ? 22:17:05 *** Farden [~jk3farden@AMontsouris-156-1-8-216.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )] 22:17:09 <TrueBrain> as the compiler for it is there, but I need certain OS specific files to get the compile-farm to work ;) 22:17:14 <TrueBrain> cybermage: que? 22:17:26 <Tefad> last i checked virtualization isn't too heavy.. but that wasn't my point 22:17:28 <Sacro> Tefad: well my sparcstation only has 2*40Mhz 22:17:30 <cybermage> TrueBrain: If you have 64b processor, you can run virtualized enviroment :) 22:17:33 <Sacro> and 96MB RAM 22:17:35 <Sacro> it needs a dated OS 22:17:45 <Tefad> modern computers "virtualize" into uops anyway 22:18:05 <Tefad> hmm my sparc is a few hundred MHz 22:18:16 <TrueBrain> Tefad: and my point was, that lightweighted is _very_ subjective :) 22:18:28 <Tefad> smalltalk ftw? ; ) 22:18:38 <TrueBrain> rathr bullshit 22:18:45 <TrueBrain> whitspace? 22:18:59 <TrueBrain> (I seem to be randomly dropping letters...) 22:19:06 <TrueBrain> might be the packet-loss :p 22:19:11 *** pecisk [~pecisk@78.84.139.234] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:19:15 <Tefad> some bf derivative? 22:19:25 <Tefad> i like the binary bf derivative 22:19:37 <Tefad> two commands. 22:19:48 <hylje> let me implement bf in python 22:20:24 <TrueBrain> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ <- I still love thisone 22:21:09 <TrueBrain> http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-whitespace-154.html <- there os no language! 22:21:53 <TrueBrain> but my personal best: http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/language-shakespeare-664.html 22:21:57 <TrueBrain> I once tried to write a program in it 22:22:00 <TrueBrain> but.. I failed :p 22:22:07 <TrueBrain> (and not many languages I failed to write in :p) 22:22:49 <ludde> TrueBrain: my work mate is co author of shakespearelang 22:22:58 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50c79a03.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:23:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 22:23:05 <TrueBrain> ludde: then I have great respect for him :) 22:23:11 <TrueBrain> as I couldn't make anything out of it :) 22:23:19 <TrueBrain> it is briliant! 22:23:27 <TrueBrain> (and no, Bjarni, not you) 22:23:37 <Bjarni> hi ludde 22:23:43 <TrueBrain> (I knew you wanted to say something like that, so I thought, let's beat him too it) 22:23:50 <Bjarni> nice to see you again 22:24:16 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 22:24:37 *** Gekz [~gekko@CPE-121-217-203-4.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:28:51 <skidd13> Bjarni: As you are the man for OS X may I recruit you for some profiling? -> FS1392 22:29:30 <ludde> hi 22:30:10 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54A0DECE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:31:40 <Bjarni> skidd13: shouldn't this produce the same executable code? 22:31:56 <Bjarni> but then again I guess you want me to verify that it actually does that :) 22:32:15 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-164-75.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:32:32 <skidd13> :D 22:33:26 <Bjarni> no I will not read ASM to ensure that it produces the very same code 22:33:36 <Bjarni> and odds are that md5 wouldn't do the trick either 22:34:00 <Bjarni> though that could be interesting to try... then it really would be the same code and no need to test 22:34:07 <skidd13> Bjarni: It hopefully should not. My hope is that the compilers will do a better job with the inline stuff instead of the defines. 22:34:15 <Bjarni> but somehow I don't think that will happen 22:34:32 <TrueBrain> Bjarni: don't worr,y I am 100% sure the asm will be different 22:34:39 <skidd13> Bjarni: I just want to know if there is any difference in performance. 22:34:41 <TrueBrain> what we need to know, if there is a noticable speed difference 22:35:37 * Bjarni prepares for some testing 22:35:43 <Bjarni> aka freeing up CPU time 22:35:45 <skidd13> Thanks 22:36:24 * dihedral greets TB 22:36:29 <dihedral> and skidd13 of course too 22:37:04 <skidd13> Hi dihedral 22:37:08 *** |Bastiaan| [~kvirc@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 22:37:16 <Bjarni> hmm 22:37:29 *** michi_cc_ [5ad914191f@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #openttd 22:37:29 <Bjarni> how to test this in the best way... 22:38:25 <Bjarni> so far I did profiling to learn how much CPU time the different functions use compared to each other and TIC/TOC for actual function speed 22:38:44 <Bjarni> but TIC/TOC has to be used at the correct location in the code :/ 22:40:27 <Bjarni> so how should this be tested to get the best results... 22:40:44 <Bjarni> best as in: best info, not fastest ;) 22:42:07 <skidd13> @seen Smatz 22:42:07 <DorpsGek> skidd13: Smatz was last seen in #openttd 2 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 13 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <SmatZ> hmm yes, µ is not in unifont.rf 22:42:26 <TrueBrain> if (addr[0] == 0xE9) { // 0xE9 == jmp 22:42:26 <TrueBrain> addr[0] = 0xE8; // 0xE8 == call 22:42:32 <TrueBrain> I love things that work :) 22:43:04 <Tefad> so jmp and call are the same thing in this vm? 22:43:09 <TrueBrain> 'vm'? 22:43:12 <TrueBrain> haha :) 22:43:15 <Tefad> the GRF thing ; ) 22:43:19 <TrueBrain> that is no code from any vm 22:43:25 <TrueBrain> this is code from a dlopen for windows :) 22:43:33 <Tefad> dlopen? 22:43:42 <TrueBrain> it inverts an optimization of a compiler :) 22:43:48 <TrueBrain> dlopen, as in: dynamic library loader 22:43:57 <TrueBrain> but not in dll, as this supports lazy binding 22:43:57 * Tefad confused and shuts up : D 22:44:08 <hylje> dynamic libraries are horrible hacks 22:44:26 <hylje> but they tend to work.. 22:44:53 <Bjarni> except when they don't and then it's really a pain to deal with them :( 22:45:21 <Tefad> i've not had to deal with dynamic lib problem in forever 22:45:24 <TrueBrain> Tefad: in *nix world, you can load library without having them to find all the functions right away.. example: I have a lib1 which creates func1(). I have a lib2 which creates func2(). Now lib2 wants to call func1(), and lib1 wants to call func2(). Under linux this is no problem, and works out of the box 22:45:34 <TrueBrain> in windows, via DLLs, you need a bunch of ugly hacks to make it to work, if at all 22:45:45 <Tefad> oh, how nice 22:45:46 <TrueBrain> so, I made a library that works like *nix 22:45:53 <Bjarni> Tefad: so you haven't had OpenTTD crashing on you with a "lazy pointer not found"? 22:46:02 <Tefad> no crashes 22:46:11 <Tefad> wtf is lazy pointer 22:46:18 <Bjarni> I fixed that by moving away from SDL 22:46:30 <Bjarni> it's a pointer 22:46:36 <Bjarni> it just tries to do as little as possible 22:46:40 <Tefad> thanks captain obvious 22:46:58 <Sacro> heh 22:47:03 <TrueBrain> Tefad: in my example, when you load lib1, the call to func2() doesn't point to anywhere yet 22:47:10 <Sacro> Tefad: he's a dutch mac user 22:47:11 <TrueBrain> when you call it, it looks up where it should point to 22:47:13 <TrueBrain> and calls that 22:47:13 <Sacro> what do you expect 22:47:23 <TrueBrain> this is called a lazy symbol (not a lazy pointer) 22:47:26 <Tefad> ah. a placeholder 22:47:28 <Bjarni> there is a Dutch mac user in here? 22:47:35 <TrueBrain> in *nix land this is _very_ common 22:47:40 <Tefad> only gets lookedup when it's used 22:47:46 <TrueBrain> in Windows land this is advised against (by MS) 22:47:59 <TrueBrain> basicly: *nix: runtime, MS: compiletime 22:48:22 <Tefad> those lead to problems on my system when i upgrade packages, sometimes there's updates to both and they have circular dependency 22:48:25 <TrueBrain> this also means: *nix: no need to have all the files when compiling, MS: you need all files when compiling ;) 22:48:40 <TrueBrain> euh, yeah, it is not that, but he, what ever :) 22:48:44 <TrueBrain> at least I tried ;) 22:48:51 <Tefad> i know what you're talking about 22:49:01 <Tefad> what i'm saying is similar, at least i think it is 22:49:26 <Tefad> lib1 uses func2 in lib2 while lib2 uses func1 from lib1, yes? 22:49:32 <Tefad> lib1 depends on lib2 and viceversa 22:49:35 <TrueBrain> yup 22:49:46 <Tefad> assuming neither is installed, how would a package manager know what's up 22:49:57 <Tefad> unless it realizes mutual dependency is ok. 22:49:58 <TrueBrain> in a package system it is slightly different 22:50:01 <TrueBrain> but good enough ;) 22:50:17 <Tefad> in windows land, i dont think i'd be able to compile that at all 22:50:37 <Tefad> in unix land, i think the config script would be confused, but could probably be bootstrapped, eh? 22:50:50 <Tefad> unless you have binaries anyway. 22:50:56 <Tefad> then there's no config script 22:51:17 <Tefad> this problem occurs at compile time in windows land? unless you have a workaround in place 22:51:48 <TrueBrain> Windows requires all the symbols to be known at compile-time 22:51:51 <TrueBrain> Unix doesn't 22:51:58 <TrueBrain> there are workarounds, but they are hard to write 22:52:03 <Tefad> got it 22:52:22 <Tefad> if you can manage create a binary in unix you're fine 22:52:36 <TrueBrain> short: it helps porting Unix -> Windows a lot :) 22:52:49 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B74FDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:52:59 <Tefad> totally facetious there yes? 22:53:06 <TrueBrain> facetious? 22:53:23 *** michi_cc [~michi_cc@p5483B82C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Und weg...] 22:53:33 <Tefad> not meant to be taken seriously or literally: a facetious remark. 22:53:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, so much for my uptime 22:53:53 <TrueBrain> I don't understand what you try to say, sorry :) 22:54:25 <Tefad> how can being able to find symbols at compile time be in unix but not windows be beneficial to porting unix to windows? 22:54:40 <TrueBrain> Tefad: it isn't. But my library solves tha tproblem ;) 22:54:56 <Tefad> ok, "it" wasn't defined in your sentence : D 22:55:01 <TrueBrain> true :) 22:55:04 <Tefad> i assumed you were referencing the whole concept 22:55:08 <Tefad> not your library. 22:56:23 <hylje> Tefad: i dont think you got the subtlety there.. :p 22:56:34 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77BFC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:58:14 <Tefad> hylje: ? 23:05:01 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.83] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.9/2007102514]] 23:07:52 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:07:55 <skidd13> TrueBrain: I did some profiling and noticed that some functions increase their speed while others loose :( 23:08:48 <TrueBrain> skidd13: hehe 23:09:32 <skidd13> GetTileType +37% Random -18% 23:09:47 <TrueBrain> but Random doesn't use any of your functions, does it? 23:09:58 <skidd13> The ROR and the ROL 23:10:03 <TrueBrain> ah 23:10:05 <skidd13> IIRC 23:10:09 <TrueBrain> so, keep the ones that improve 23:10:13 <TrueBrain> revert the others ;) 23:10:33 <skidd13> Maybe there is some space to rewrite the functionality ;) 23:10:41 <skidd13> to increase it even more 23:13:33 <skidd13> But all at all I need input form other testers. IIRC smatz did some huger profiling tests but he sems to be away :( 23:15:06 * TrueBrain summons SmatZ 23:16:31 <skidd13> It's quite late. good night and happy profiling ;) 23:16:51 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A7855.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 23:27:59 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34:46 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11373 /trunk/src/industry_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1398]: do not even think about building disabled industries. 23:35:54 *** XeryusTC [~irc@cc480157-b.sneek1.fr.home.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:39:18 *** dihedral [~dihedral@p54A0DECE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: run - rabbit run - rabbit run run run....] 23:39:22 <TrueBrain> hylje: I have a request for the patch-review: dev-talk (hidden for all other users) 23:42:47 <Sacro> Rubidium: heh, i can just imagine a motherly figure telling people off 23:43:45 *** mikk36|w [~mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has joined #openttd 23:43:52 *** Peakki [antti@cs181247045.pp.htv.fi] has quit [Quit: LÀhdössÀ] 23:50:29 *** mikk36|work [~mikk36@ntsrv.lakrito.ee] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds]