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00:00:28 <Eddi|zuHause3> i only see left turns there... 00:25:09 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 00:26:35 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-182-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 00:29:36 *** elmex_ [~elmex@e180067158.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:32:23 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-157-143.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:45 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 00:34:43 <fjb> Good night. 00:34:50 *** fjb [~frank@p5485C587.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Realworld is calling.] 00:42:14 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has left #openttd [] 00:48:20 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 01:04:15 *** dev|ant [~dev_ant@ains-202-126-98-12.ains.net.au] has quit [] 01:05:00 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:45 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-2.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 01:10:19 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-132-239.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20:36 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77F3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:20:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77F3F.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:20 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:29:51 *** Ammler [~Ammler@adsl-62-167-24-161.adslplus.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:41:12 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B77D0E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:42:43 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 02:00:01 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:04:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 02:04:42 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: glx * r11627 /trunk/src/newgrf_text.cpp: -Fix [FS#1532] (r11145): poping from text reference stack must be done in a precise order. 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30 fixed by WhiteRabbit (30) 08:53:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: brazilian_portuguese - 22 fixed by fukumori (9), tucalipe (13) 08:53:39 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: bulgarian - 8 fixed by thetitan (8) 08:53:41 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: catalan - 22 fixed by arnaullv (22) 08:53:43 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: croatian - 17 fixed by knovak (17) 08:55:49 *** elmex [~elmex@e180066222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 09:00:28 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:06:29 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:13:23 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:17:28 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:17:57 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-215-69.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 09:21:10 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 09:22:20 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.78.22] has joined #openttd 09:22:59 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.78.22] has quit [] 09:25:36 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:31 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:31:57 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:38:38 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:15 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:02:39 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-083.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 10:07:21 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 10:08:18 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-236.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 10:15:50 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@ti0140a340-0342.bb.online.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:31 *** Rexxars [~rexxars@062249182162.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #openttd 10:25:56 *** fjb [~frank@p5485EB17.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:02 <fjb> Moin 10:36:58 <Brianetta> morning. 10:36:58 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:37:24 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 10:38:26 <fjb> :-) 10:47:06 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 10:49:18 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:51:37 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 10:53:53 *** Gekz [~brendan@CPE-58-168-19-44.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00:05 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB4F8B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 11:00:32 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:03:22 *** joosa [~joosa@heh.fi] has joined #openttd 11:05:53 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has quit [Quit: http://forums.ttdrussia.net - russian forum about TTDP, OpenTTD] 11:06:00 *** joosa` [~joosa@heh.fi] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 11:09:07 *** Smoky555 [~Miranda@80.69.148.14] has joined #openttd 11:09:14 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 11:38:51 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4B52.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:38:55 <skidd13> Hi folks 11:50:36 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@124-169-69-59.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:51:31 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-2.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:52:32 <fjb> Hi skidd13 11:54:18 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@124-169-69-59.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [] 11:57:18 *** LeviathNL [IceChat7@wlan-145-94-223-248.wlan.tudelft.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:13:29 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 12:16:10 *** LeviathNL [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:18 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 12:44:21 *** TallOak_ [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:28 <SmatZ> hello 12:49:00 <fjb> Hi SmatZ 12:51:03 *** TallOak [~cjfd3@furry.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:50 <SmatZ> hello fjb :) 13:07:38 *** Svish [~opera@host-85-30-130-97.sydskane.nu] has joined #openttd 13:07:48 <Svish> where do you add suggestions for openttd? 13:07:53 <Svish> I have one 13:08:03 <Maedhros> bugs.openttd.org, preferably 13:08:17 <Svish> would be nice if you could hide/show town names on the minimap thing 13:08:29 <Svish> they are sometimes in the way when looking for things :) 13:08:36 <Svish> for example banks that also are white :p 13:09:29 <Svish> i will ahve to register to do that, right? 13:13:53 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@124-169-69-59.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 13:13:57 <LittleMikey> Hey there guys 13:14:14 <SmatZ> hello LittleMikey 13:14:39 <Maedhros> Svish: you can already do that - click on the button at the bottom left of the group of 8 buttons :) 13:15:02 <LittleMikey> I was wondering, is there a page where the changes and features ect of beta 2 can be found? I've been looking on forums and I cant find one 13:15:41 <SmatZ> LittleMikey: readme.txt I think 13:16:08 <SmatZ> LittleMikey: chngelog.txt actually 13:20:52 <LittleMikey> kewl thanks 13:21:06 <LittleMikey> Is it basically a certian nightly build, or does it mix and match? 13:22:07 <SmatZ> 0.6 branch is the same as trunk so far 13:23:39 <LittleMikey> Hmmkay 13:29:16 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 13:32:49 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:32:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:34:58 *** novotv6_ [novotv6@pc404-32.feld.cvut.cz] has joined #openttd 13:43:02 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:46:46 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 13:50:46 <Svish> Maedhros: um... where? 13:50:54 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:50:54 <Svish> there is no group of 8 buttons 13:51:07 <Sacro> afternoon 13:51:20 <Maedhros> Svish: at the bottom right of the map window? 13:52:22 <Svish> oooo 13:52:25 <Svish> lol 13:52:31 <Svish> thought that was one of the modes.. 13:52:37 <Maedhros> :) 13:55:20 <Svish> oh well.. at least im registered now. in case I find another obvious non-bug to report :p 13:58:55 <SmatZ> these bugreports are fine 13:59:10 <SmatZ> they are closed very soon, improving average closing time ;) 14:01:07 *** kjellerkos [~kjellerko@178.80-202-100.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 14:01:42 <kjellerkos> Hola 14:02:10 <kjellerkos> Beta 0.6.0-beta2 doesn't start on my mandriva machine. I can't see any interesting messages when running with -d 2 14:02:38 <Maedhros> how about with -d driver=9 ? 14:03:09 <kjellerkos> Does this make any sense: 14:03:13 <kjellerkos> dbg: [driver] Successfully probed video driver 'null' 14:03:21 <kjellerkos> Is it supposed to say that? 14:03:29 <Maedhros> nope ;) 14:03:32 <kjellerkos> hehe 14:03:33 <kjellerkos> :P 14:03:40 <Maedhros> did you download or compile the dedicated server version? 14:04:01 <kjellerkos> I compiled it 14:04:03 <Maedhros> and if you compiled it yourself, do you have the SDL libraries and headers? 14:04:41 <kjellerkos> sdl and sdl_image? 14:04:54 <Sacro> heh 14:04:59 <Sacro> it fails on Ubuntu too afaik 14:05:12 *** Draagon [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 14:05:14 <Maedhros> you're probably looking for something like sdl_devel, or sdl_headers 14:05:22 <Draagon> hi 14:05:22 <kjellerkos> Sacro: It builds and runs nicely on my ubuntu 7.10 14:05:26 <Sacro> give me a second and I'll try it on arch 14:05:38 <Sacro> kjellerkos: we had someone in yesterday with it failing to run 14:05:49 *** Draagon [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 14:06:14 <kjellerkos> I should've been here then :P 14:07:47 <kjellerkos> Do you guys know if there's coming diagonal roads? 14:08:00 <Maedhros> i doubt it'll happen anytime soon 14:09:09 <kjellerkos> I guess it would be a big job 14:11:19 <Sacro> how have i just gone on sourceforge and got beta1 14:11:20 <Sacro> :\ 14:11:25 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-247-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:11:25 <Sacro> i went via the openttd site too 14:15:33 <Sacro> shall i spend £150 and get 8GB of RAM 14:15:37 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:54 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 14:16:22 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 14:16:30 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-73-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 14:16:49 <dihedral> Sacro: sure :-P 14:17:02 <Sacro> heh 14:17:08 <Sacro> linux would be happier 14:17:12 <Sacro> XP wouldn't see it 14:18:16 *** Nite_Owl [~chatzilla@c-76-109-73-49.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [] 14:18:49 <fjb> XP 64-bit would see it. 14:19:17 <Sacro> yeah true 14:19:22 <Sacro> but 64-bit operating systems suck 14:20:33 <Maedhros> no more than 32-bit versions do :p 14:20:34 *** LittleMikey [~mlawrence@124-169-69-59.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:21:58 <fjb> FreeBSD 64-bit runs fine. 14:22:13 <kjellerkos> Maedhros: It worked when I got SDL-devel 14:23:10 <Maedhros> kjellerkos: good good :) 14:33:11 <Hendikins> Sacro: I'm a bit late to the party, but 64bit openSUSE runs like a dream :P 14:35:59 <Sacro> i don't want suse 14:36:07 <Sacro> and Arch64 is good 14:36:14 <Sacro> but i need windows :( 14:38:29 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has left #openttd [Kopete 0.12.5 : http://kopete.kde.org] 14:45:25 <dihedral> Sacro: buy a mac :-) 14:45:40 <Sacro> dihedral: that doesn't help me 14:48:54 <svippy> Windows? 14:49:01 <svippy> Your house have no windows? 14:51:48 <Hendikins> In a world without fences and walls, who needs Gates and Windows? 15:00:31 *** Svish [~opera@host-85-30-130-97.sydskane.nu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:02:39 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 15:06:46 *** novotv6_ [novotv6@pc404-32.feld.cvut.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:23 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:09:23 *** NW|Aerandir is now known as Aerandir 15:13:10 *** Desolator [~Desolator@86.126.78.22] has joined #openttd 15:13:14 <Desolator> hi 15:31:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C585.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:35:21 *** Desolator [~Desolator@86.126.78.22] has quit [Quit: Leaving...d'uh] 15:36:34 <guru3> i so did not know there was a palm port of openttd 15:36:40 <kjellerkos> Is the player not supposed to be able to build the smaller bus stops if the city owns the road? 15:37:42 <skidd13> kjellerkos: there is a patch setting 15:38:54 <kjellerkos> Ah. Nice 15:44:38 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:58:24 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:42 <Eddi|zuHause> if you compile openttd for NetBSD, you can also run it on your toaster... 16:10:45 <fjb> If the toaster is supported by SDL. 16:14:22 *** dihedral_ [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-222-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:11 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7F3E0.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:17:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7F3E0.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:18:08 *** loosec [~loosec@nl101-219-25.student.uu.se] has joined #openttd 16:20:00 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-247-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:20:03 *** dihedral_ is now known as dihedral 16:21:07 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... i have the weirdest files in my /tmp directory... 16:21:21 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B833BD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:21:39 <Eddi|zuHause> files that are much older than my linux installation, and that i do not remember having touched ever since 16:22:04 <Eddi|zuHause> some files that are not even mine 16:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> .exe files... 16:22:37 <Eddi|zuHause> .msi files... 16:23:09 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B83C1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:23:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:25:37 <fjb> Just delete them. 16:37:46 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 16:38:37 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 16:39:14 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has quit [Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )] 16:40:04 <loosec> How do I disable aircrafts on a dedicated linux server? 16:41:36 *** LordAzamath [~chatzilla@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:41:41 <Maedhros> "patch max_aircraft 0" should do it 16:52:05 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-255-083.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:32 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 17:25:34 *** dihedral [~dihedral@dslb-084-056-222-029.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 17:26:47 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:26:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 17:27:15 <Sacro> eek *hides* 17:27:30 <Bjarni> wait... I will help you 17:27:32 * Prof_Frink gives Sacro a good hiding 17:27:40 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [best hiding place ever] 17:27:59 <Bjarni> now you can't see him anymore 17:28:10 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 17:28:13 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: danke 17:28:46 <Bjarni> well I didn't come here to play hide and seek with Sacro 17:29:05 <Sacro> Bjarni: thats a damned shame 17:30:06 <Bjarni> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=35299 <-- I wonder about this one.... somebody reported DaleStan as moderator impersonator and "unpolite" to new people 17:30:40 <Bjarni> is he really that bad? 17:30:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host42-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:30:53 <Wolf01> hello 17:30:58 <Bjarni> hi Wolf01 17:32:14 <SmatZ> Bjarni: I think he wasn't really polite... better say nothing than that 17:32:23 <SmatZ> hello Wolf the LegoMaster 17:32:37 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #openttd 17:32:46 <BiA|pavel-css> cus 17:32:51 <BiA|pavel-css> *hi 17:32:52 <BiA|pavel-css> :) 17:32:54 <SmatZ> ahoj BiA|pavel-css 17:33:16 <Bjarni> I didn't ask if he said the best possible thing but... is it really bad enough to report it? 17:33:24 <Bjarni> hi BiA|pavel-css 17:34:06 <Sacro> Wolf01: can you accept lego stuff in lcad format? 17:35:05 <Wolf01> yes 17:36:43 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4B52.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt] 17:38:27 <Sacro> Wolf01: nice, how do you render it for OpenTTD? 17:38:32 <Sacro> cos i wanna do some graphics over christmas 17:38:43 <Wolf01> ldview 17:39:20 <Sacro> hmmm, any chance of some instructions? 17:41:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 17:42:42 <Wolf01> open the .ldr into ldview, set the right angle and cheese :D 17:42:48 <Sacro> hmm 17:42:55 <Sacro> and which are the right angles for OpenTTD graphics? 17:43:15 <Wolf01> eh i don't know :P 17:43:22 <Wolf01> maybe the same as blender 17:43:37 <Wolf01> (check the blender topic) 17:44:09 <Sacro> hmm 17:45:06 <Prof_Frink> bite my shiny metal 3D modelly thing. 17:46:40 <Sacro> hmm 17:46:45 * Sacro bites Prof_Frink's blender 17:47:39 <Sacro> hmm 17:47:46 <Sacro> the altitude of the renders has no unit :\ 17:56:28 *** NW|Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 17:56:48 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:56:48 *** NW|Aerandir is now known as Aerandir 17:57:45 <Wolf01> forum upgrade again? :( 17:58:20 <Prof_Frink> [17:57:19] <@orudge> upgrading phpbb 18:02:37 <orudge> done'd 18:02:41 <orudge> phpBB 3.0 final released 18:02:45 <Wolf01> :D 18:04:01 <Wolf01> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=35306&view=unread#unread O M G O_O 18:20:15 *** Svish [~opera@host-85-30-130-97.sydskane.nu] has joined #openttd 18:35:31 <Sacro> http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1583jk1.jpg ZOMG 18:36:02 <hylje> :o 18:39:30 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:27 <Sacro> http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=82347 shiny 18:46:35 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has joined #openttd 18:51:14 <SmatZ> it doesn't look as good... to be worthe the effort and slowdowns 18:51:34 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 18:51:34 <Gonozal_VIII> !logs 18:51:52 <hylje> BLOOM! BROWN! 18:52:19 <hylje> besides, how are the arbitrary bridges/tunnels coming along? 18:53:53 <SmatZ> hylje: if you mean this http://dev.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/tunnel2.png then not very fast... 18:54:00 <LordAzamath> Belugas, your wishes have come true 18:54:01 <LordAzamath> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=35310&start=0 18:54:10 <hylje> yes, that 18:54:21 <SmatZ> there is more work with 0.6, school etc... 18:54:23 <SmatZ> :( 18:54:27 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:54:46 <hylje> :< 18:54:51 <hylje> what's there to be done? 18:56:03 <SmatZ> a lot of things, a lot of decisions... you may find some files at http://dev.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/ and see how it doesn't work atm :) 18:56:32 <hylje> both design and implementation, i suppose 18:56:54 <SmatZ> yes :) 18:57:12 <Sacro> zomg 18:57:17 <Sacro> A REAL TUNNEL> 18:57:18 <Sacro> ??? 18:57:19 <SmatZ> the drawing is very problematic, too 18:57:32 <hylje> i could look at it, if not just to draw up a somewaht comprehensive design 18:57:35 <hylje> of how stuff works 18:57:57 <Sacro> SHOW ME THE CODE 18:58:01 <SmatZ> mostly with bridges... there are no diagonal sprites etc... 18:58:01 <hylje> theres a diff 18:58:12 <orudge> Sacro: NO NEED TO SHOUT 18:58:17 <SmatZ> everything is at ttp://dev.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/ ... normal opntitle.dat won't load 18:58:17 <hylje> orudge: SORRY :( 18:58:19 <orudge> you're almost as bad as RPharazon ;) 18:58:28 <orudge> looks funky, though 18:58:32 <SmatZ> :) 18:58:47 <Prof_Frink> orudge: He's a Hullian. 18:58:52 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: 'ullian 18:59:08 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: I can talk proper. 18:59:18 <Sacro> from 'tbest city in t'shire 18:59:43 <Sacro> zomg 18:59:48 <Sacro> worsethanfailure is back to thedailywtf 19:00:03 <Prof_Frink> Huzzah! 19:00:16 <orudge> zomg, it is too 19:00:31 <Wolf01> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2104852186_564656f083.jpg this effect resembles to me ottd and a double decker bus travelling in a tunnel 19:00:46 <Gonozal_VIII> . there are no diagonal sprites etc... <-- doesn't matter, just use some floating tracks or something, when the feature is there, sprites will come :-) 19:01:44 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 19:04:10 <SmatZ> Gonozal_VIII: in fact, diagonal bridges could be done in current code with not-so-big changes 19:04:26 <Sacro> SmatZ: orly? 19:04:30 <Gonozal_VIII> :D 19:04:45 <Sacro> SmatZ: *this idea needs citation" 19:04:57 <SmatZ> :-D 19:12:22 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:29 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:15:10 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 19:26:02 <orudge> hmm, Sacro, turns out I'd missed "thedailyworsethanfailure"... not read the site in a few days - quite a short-lived namechange, that 19:26:40 <SpComb> it lasted for a day or two 19:26:46 <orudge> so it seems 19:26:48 *** Greyscale [~Greyscale@host86-131-33-209.range86-131.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:26:50 <orudge> ah: http://thedailyworsethanfailure.com/Resources/Images/Primary/logo_joke.gif 19:26:50 <orudge> etc 19:29:33 *** Svish [~opera@host-85-30-130-97.sydskane.nu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:53 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [] 19:34:56 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 19:34:56 <Digitalfox> Rubidium: Since FS1538 is closed and no new comments can be made, i will do it here :) I understand now that assertion is meant to be there and only in trunk/nightly builds :) So in other cases it should just give an error msg and quit it will always give an assertion when using trunk/nightly builds ? 19:36:37 *** Draakon_ [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 19:36:53 <Draakon_> helllo 19:41:30 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 19:43:39 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B39A.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 19:46:49 <Digitalfox> SmatZ: http://dev.openttd.org/~smatz/3d/tunnel.avi That's pretty cool o_O 19:49:18 <SmatZ> Digitalfox: :-) 19:50:17 <Gonozal_VIII> i want that :D 19:51:51 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe place the tunnel entry and when you click on that, you get the underground view? all brown tiles or something 19:52:11 <Sacro> mmm 19:52:12 <Gonozal_VIII> and when you click outside of that it switches bac 19:52:13 <Gonozal_VIII> k 19:52:35 *** Draakon_ [~chatzilla@88-196-99-68-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has left #openttd [] 19:54:05 <BiA|pavel-css> gn 19:54:46 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:55:01 *** BiA|pavel-css [~pavel.g@48.140.broadband2.iol.cz] has quit [] 19:56:26 <Digitalfox> With videos like the one SmatZ have in his directory, they make me thing a lot of new stuff ( and very cool stuff ) can be made on open :) 19:56:37 <Digitalfox> *think 19:58:16 <Gonozal_VIII> do you store that underground stuff in a seperate array? 19:59:35 <Sacro> Digitalfox: indeed 20:00:41 *** Osai is now known as Osai^city 20:06:13 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.78.22] has joined #openttd 20:06:32 <Desolator> well..hello 20:07:17 <svippy> \o/ 20:07:25 <svippy> Oh joy, oh happniess. 20:07:28 <svippy> Hm. 20:07:31 <svippy> Fix that word. 20:07:32 <Digitalfox> Features like bigger maps, more vehicles, more stations, New Houses, New Industries, 32bpp support, etc.. Just make imagine what possibilities there are o_O 20:07:53 <svippy> Next thing is going to be an underground map. 20:08:00 <svippy> Like in Roller Coaster Tycoon. 20:08:09 <Desolator> next thing is going to be full 32bpp =) 20:08:27 <Gonozal_VIII> dynamic sized maps for every height level :D 20:08:36 <svippy> Exactly! 20:09:33 <svippy> "Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973 but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever." 20:09:40 <Digitalfox> I must say that it was bigger maps that made switch from patch to open, but after that there a lot of things i couldn't live without... And to be honest the simplicity that you have to change an option in open is way better for me that in patch.. 20:10:36 <Digitalfox> Not to mention the 1 2 3 open is running for the first time 20:11:16 <Desolator> Honestly, I don't use any map bigger than 256x256 (or equivalent, like 512x128), ie the original TTD size 20:11:29 <Desolator> I find them too big and the game gets boring 20:11:47 <svippy> I like games 32x2048 20:11:55 <Gonozal_VIII> i used bigger maps until i started using the ecs vectors 20:11:56 <svippy> Makes for very interesting structure. 20:12:06 <svippy> Me too, Gonozal_VIII. 20:12:07 <Gonozal_VIII> 32 is impossible? 20:12:10 <Digitalfox> Desolator: Well i like to build big rails system, and in 256*256 my map get's full fast 20:12:10 *** G_ [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #openttd 20:12:11 <svippy> It is? 20:12:14 <svippy> Then 64! 20:12:37 <Desolator> well, I like to make realistic stuff, maybe that's why 20:12:56 <Gonozal_VIII> ecs is good for realistic stuff :-) 20:13:25 <Desolator> I like Pikka's basic inds mor ;) 20:13:27 *** Osai^city is now known as Osai 20:13:43 <Desolator> *more 20:13:43 <Gonozal_VIII> before i had networks where i carry everything to a single station with maximum output factory and such... 20:13:52 *** G [~njones@202-154-150-91.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:13:57 <svippy> I love that, Gonozal_VIII. 20:14:01 <svippy> Cause it is so unrealistic! 20:14:05 <Gonozal_VIII> that's also nice but different 20:14:17 <svippy> I play games to escape the real world. 20:14:22 <svippy> Oh, bless you, pacman. 20:14:57 <Gonozal_VIII> you mean, you don't have pie charts and ghosts running around? 20:15:36 <svippy> That was in my old home. 20:15:56 <svippy> Here I am formed as a triangle shooting asteroids. 20:16:05 <Gonozal_VIII> aaaaah :-) 20:16:20 <svippy> That is why I play Pacman. 20:16:54 *** ColDICe [ColDICe@86.107.64.112] has joined #openttd 20:17:43 <Desolator> we need pbs... 20:18:04 <Gonozal_VIII> we need programmable switches :-) 20:18:42 <Desolator> we need a ghost & a nuke... 20:19:34 <Desolator> imagine how would you feel when all of the sudden you see a red dot over your biggest station and hear "Nuclear launch detected" :D 20:20:14 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: www.sexybiggetje.nl] 20:22:10 <Sacro> oh noes D: 20:22:13 <svippy> :O 20:26:02 <ColDICe> Desolator you play too much TTD and Starcraft :)) 20:26:09 <ColDICe> but i like the ideea 20:26:22 <ColDICe> Nuke a competitor station 20:26:44 <Gonozal_VIII> crash a plane on it 20:26:50 <ColDICe> also.. YES we need PBS 20:30:36 <ColDICe> hmm.. in old TTD you could crash computer trains by placing a depot on the end of the station 20:30:39 <Digitalfox> Never understood what people love in PBS, i never used it, so does it help a lot? 20:30:52 <ColDICe> can I do that in ottd? 20:31:12 <Gonozal_VIII> it does if trains choose their paths in a non conflicting way 20:31:22 <Maedhros> ColDICe: no 20:31:22 <Vikthor> Digitalfox: Even more than you can imagine :D 20:31:24 <ColDICe> i agree 20:31:35 <Sacro> PBS is fantastic 20:31:37 <Sacro> when it works 20:31:37 <ColDICe> thank you Maedhros 20:31:56 * Digitalfox go read the PBS wiki ;) 20:32:21 <ColDICe> PBS it is the only thing that i miss from ChrisIN 20:32:40 <Gonozal_VIII> i miss daylength more 20:33:24 <ColDICe> I have daylenght in chrisIn 20:33:34 <Digitalfox> Is anyone actually working in PBS ( dev or not ) for open? 20:33:42 <Gonozal_VIII> ah you mean that you miss in chrisin 20:34:02 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 20:34:08 <ColDICe> yes.. I play that version of ottd 20:34:32 <ColDICe> Digitalfox i dont think so 20:34:50 <Gonozal_VIII> is that playable now? most of my trains crashed last time i tried 20:35:13 <ColDICe> Gonozal_VIII ChrisIN doesnt include PBS.. 20:35:26 <Gonozal_VIII> no they crashed on shores 20:35:58 <Sacro> Digitalfox: yes 20:36:37 <ColDICe> Sacro really? :D just great 20:37:24 <Sacro> only me thoguh 20:37:48 <Sacro> and any help would be much appreciated 20:38:38 <Gonozal_VIII> you're making programmable switches? :-)^^ 20:40:29 <Sacro> what now? 20:41:45 <Sacro> hmmm, do any major countries use trains pax and freight together? 20:41:47 <Gonozal_VIII> where the pathfinding is not in the trains but in the switches and you program them to direct the trains 20:42:02 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: it was considered 20:42:06 <Sacro> that and getting proper signalling methods 20:42:32 <Gonozal_VIII> you mean together on the same train or on the same stations or same what? 20:43:39 <Gonozal_VIII> stations yes, trains not that i know of 20:46:08 <Sacro> on the same train 20:46:30 <Sacro> hmm, think i added too much water into my rice 20:46:33 <Sacro> now how to drain it 20:46:52 <LeviathNL> What where the downsides pathfinding in the switches? 20:46:57 <LeviathNL> *of 20:47:01 <LeviathNL> -the 20:48:42 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-209-143.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 20:49:56 *** Desolator [Desolator@86.126.78.22] has quit [Quit: Leaving FTW!] 20:50:04 <Gonozal_VIII> [21:46:33] Sacro: now how to drain it <-- put a cover over the pot with a small gap, turn it over above the sink, watch the water pour out while the rice stays in :-) 20:50:57 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: i tried that 20:51:03 <Gonozal_VIII> but? 20:51:03 <Sacro> the rice was soaking up the water 20:51:12 <Gonozal_VIII> it's supposed to do that 20:51:37 <Maedhros> might be a bit revolutionary, but how about a sieve? :p 20:51:37 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... you noticed too late 20:51:53 <Sacro> ooh and after 24 hours of waiting 20:51:59 <Sacro> my external hard drive just powered up 20:52:05 <Sacro> Maedhros: holes are too big :p 20:52:15 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Sieve, not colander 20:52:19 <Sacro> tates good, just a little soggy 20:52:23 <Gonozal_VIII> yes they are... and you don't do that with rice 20:52:41 <Sacro> and sounds quite amusing when i eat it 20:52:45 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 20:53:10 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Did it turn into Stodge? 20:53:18 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: quite possibly 20:53:35 <Gonozal_VIII> what's stodge? 20:53:42 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7CE30.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:54:09 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: Rice that's got too soggy and turned into an amorphous blob rather than individual grains 20:54:15 *** markmc [~me@h240n1fls304o1036.telia.com] has joined #openttd 20:54:21 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: yes, that's precisly what i have 20:54:28 <Sacro> i live with a chinese girl, a south african girl 20:54:31 <Gonozal_VIII> ... the poor rice 20:54:39 <Sacro> and an iraqui guy who works in an indian restaurant 20:54:45 <Sacro> you'd think i could cook rice 20:54:52 <Gonozal_VIII> you live with three girls? :O 20:55:20 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: on hiking club trips the rice *always* turns into stodge 20:55:43 <Prof_Frink> But that's to be expected cooking teco value rice for ~30 people 20:56:12 <Gonozal_VIII> i never had any problems with cooking rice.. one glass of rice, 2 glasses of water, cook until water is gone... 20:56:18 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Osai] 20:56:34 <Prof_Frink> See, I just do the best guess approach 20:56:46 <Prof_Frink> some water, some rice, regular testing 20:57:02 <Prof_Frink> Means you get to eat while cooking 20:57:12 <Bjarni> looks like Sacro eats rice on a daily basis 20:57:16 <Sacro> heh 20:57:20 <Sacro> this is asda smartprice 20:57:24 <Bjarni> and prepared in a new way every day 20:57:26 <ColDICe> he lives with a chinese girl 20:57:27 <markmc> Uuuuuh, rice 20:57:31 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: smartp-rice? 20:57:42 <Sacro> yup 20:57:44 <Prof_Frink> (jpc) 20:57:51 <Bjarni> Sacro: where do you live? A dorm? 20:58:01 <Sacro> though i'll probably go to the indian shop tommorow and get some decent stuf 20:58:05 <Gonozal_VIII> the last rice i bought hat maggots in it... 20:58:05 <Sacro> Bjarni: no a house 20:58:06 <ColDICe> A heaven 20:58:10 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Hell. 20:58:22 <Prof_Frink> ColDICe: Couldn't be wronger. 20:58:27 <ColDICe> doesn`t matter..he lives with 3 girls 20:58:35 <Prof_Frink> ColDICe: Hull. 20:58:42 <Bjarni> can you make up your minds? :) 20:59:00 <ColDICe> Bjarni [22:58] <Sacro> Bjarni: no a house 20:59:12 <Bjarni> [21:58:06] <ColDICe> A heaven 20:59:12 <Bjarni> [21:58:10] <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Hell. 20:59:17 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Did you announce "Tonight, I dine IN HULL!" 20:59:18 <Bjarni> it was more like that 21:00:01 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: i could 21:00:06 <Maedhros> Prof_Frink: hahaha, nice 21:00:19 <Bjarni> <ColDICe> doesn`t matter..he lives with 3 girls <--- so... I presume that now Sacro is ordered to sit while peeing and he has to make his bed and has to get dressed when he wakes up and stuff like that 21:00:25 *** kjellerkos [~kjellerko@178.80-202-100.nextgentel.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:00:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~dex@i59F7F3E0.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:00:55 <ColDICe> Bjarni try to see the other side of facts :> 21:00:56 <Gonozal_VIII> ok, that's a huge downside then 21:00:58 <Maedhros> is it just me missing the significance of "an iraqui guy" ? 21:01:01 <Prof_Frink> ColDICe: Uni is not *quite* like how it's depicted in porn. 21:01:09 <Sacro> Bjarni: nope 21:01:44 <Gonozal_VIII> ooh guy not girl 21:01:44 <Bjarni> so Sacro is living with sloppy girls 21:02:13 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:02:26 <Bjarni> Sacro: btw why did you import roommates from all over the world? 21:02:48 <Bjarni> don't trust local roommates? 21:03:34 <Gonozal_VIII> people who know hull won't move there so they come from far away where they haven't heard about it? 21:03:51 <Bjarni> sounds like it 21:04:01 <Bjarni> he isn't living with any Europeans at all 21:04:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: we don't 21:04:14 <Sacro> they exported themselves to come to the Uni 21:04:24 <Sacro> actually, there is a Polish couple and an English girl here too 21:04:48 <Gonozal_VIII> english girls exist? i thought they were a myth 21:04:48 * Bjarni wonders what kind of house Sacro is living in 21:05:13 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: nope, i know a few 21:05:15 <ColDICe> sorry but I don`t understand what is Uni 21:05:18 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: He lives in a house 21:05:20 <Sacro> Bjarni: students/workers 21:05:23 <Prof_Frink> a very big house 21:05:23 <Gonozal_VIII> university 21:05:27 <ColDICe> thx 21:05:27 <Prof_Frink> in the country 21:05:29 <Bjarni> ohh 21:05:30 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: but not in the country 21:05:37 <Bjarni> Sacro ended up in the big house 21:05:37 <Sacro> but i do watch afternoon repeats 21:05:41 <Bjarni> that explains a lot 21:06:26 <ColDICe> now I understand what Prof_Frink mean with Uni is not *quite* like how it's depicted in porn. 21:07:13 <Bjarni> ColDICe: well... uni is not at all like in porn movies... at least not here 21:07:33 <Bjarni> not that I know any uni porn movies but I imagine them to contain girls 21:08:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm sure there is uni gay porn too 21:08:31 <Sacro> rule 34 21:08:32 <Maedhros> Bjarni: what sort of uni do you go to, if there are no girls in it? 21:08:40 <Bjarni> a technical one 21:08:46 <Bjarni> well... there are girls 21:08:50 <Sacro> there are about 7 girls doing CS 21:08:54 <Bjarni> just not in the courses I attend 21:09:09 <Gonozal_VIII> cybersex? 21:09:13 <Noldo> :D 21:09:21 <Gonozal_VIII> or counterstrike? 21:09:31 <Sacro> Computer Science 21:09:35 <Bjarni> girls play counterstrike? 21:09:44 <Sacro> yes 21:09:48 <Bjarni> wicked 21:09:49 <Gonozal_VIII> 7 worldwide? maybe 21:09:55 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B788C5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 21:10:15 <Bjarni> and for all we know they prefer girls like everybody else studying CS 21:13:00 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl5402B39A.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:48 <Gonozal_VIII> [22:10:15] Bjarni: and for all we know they prefer girls like everybody else studying CS <-- then it would really be like the uni porn movies 21:14:15 <Bjarni> ... 21:14:54 <Bjarni> I don't understand guys wanting lesbians..... that has to be the place where the odds for something happening has to be the worst possible 21:15:22 <Gonozal_VIII> 1 + 1 = 2 21:15:47 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.178] has joined #openttd 21:15:59 <Bjarni> 1 + 1 = 1 + 1 21:16:13 <Wolf01> really? 21:16:17 *** Osai [~Osai@pD9EB53C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 21:16:59 <Bjarni> Sacro: you didn't say how you ended up living in a house with a Chinese girl 21:17:07 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Moar breasts. 21:17:16 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.smbc-comics.com/ 21:17:43 <Sacro> Bjarni: we both needed somewhere to live 21:17:48 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: she only has b cups 21:17:52 <Sacro> hardly huge 21:18:01 * Hendikins yawns sleepily 21:19:00 <Bjarni> Sacro: he only counted. He didn't say anything about size 21:19:11 <Gonozal_VIII> breasts don't have to be huge to look good 21:19:12 *** Ondalf_Stardust [ondalf@dsl-roibrasgw1-ff3cc100-30.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:19:23 <Hendikins> Apparently I'm good at butchering our DVA system. Yay for me? 21:19:27 <Sacro> Bjarni: true 21:19:27 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: That was at Bjarni's comment about lesbians 21:19:32 <Sacro> mmmmmmm lesbians 21:19:34 <Ondalf_Stardust> hi fellows 21:19:39 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Precisely 21:19:42 <UnderBuilder> I got an idea: global chat, allows you to talk to other servers 21:19:55 <Prof_Frink> UnderBuilder: That's called this channel 21:19:58 <Bjarni> Hendikins: what is a DVA system? 21:19:58 <Gonozal_VIII> global spam? yay 21:20:13 <Gonozal_VIII> i think he was talking ingame^^ 21:20:14 <Hendikins> Bjarni: Digital Voice Announcement. 21:20:16 <UnderBuilder> I say in the game 21:20:31 <Bjarni> Hendikins: ahh.... you mean like turning it off by mistake? 21:20:36 <Hendikins> Bjarni: If I can't be stuffed announcing a train, I press F10 and it does it for me :P 21:20:54 <Hendikins> And no, I do not mean that. I mean taking a metaphorical axe to all the announcements in it. 21:21:11 <Prof_Frink> UnderBuilder: Let openttd swallow kparts so you can embed konsole 21:21:22 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-21-117.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:21:40 <Bjarni> Hendikins: so your job is to press F10 at the right time? 21:21:58 <Hendikins> Bjarni: No. That is for lazy people. Like everyone else who works at my station :P 21:22:17 <Bjarni> then what do you do? 21:22:21 <Hendikins> Yesterday I entered all the down side announcements for the January trackwork. Only 143 trains. 21:22:23 <Bjarni> speak in the mic? 21:22:30 <Prof_Frink> "Mind the gap" "Please stand clear of the closing doors" "bibibibibibibibibi" 21:22:33 <Bjarni> and fart loudly at the same time XD 21:22:50 <Gonozal_VIII> bibibibibibi? 21:22:55 <Bjarni> closing doors 21:22:58 <Prof_Frink> bibibibibibibibibibibi. 21:23:01 <UnderBuilder> I said that for enhance communication in openttd 21:23:09 * Hendikins managed to do that during a weekday afternoon shift, when the other staff would manage about half of it on a weekend shift :P 21:23:12 <Gonozal_VIII> that's a truck driving backwards... 21:23:31 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: No, that's beee-beee-beee-beee 21:23:36 <Bjarni> UnderBuilder: are you sure you want to add communications so you can get Prof_Frink's statements 21:23:42 <Hendikins> DVA is good for lazy people and people who have accents. I'm neither, so I use our PA system :) 21:23:51 <Gonozal_VIII> no, that's insects that produce honey 21:24:05 <Prof_Frink> bibibibibibibi is the sound made when a tube train closes its doors 21:24:49 <Bjarni> Hendikins: but why do you have to say it if the system itself can handle it? 21:25:10 <Hendikins> Bjarni: People listen if a human makes the announcement. 21:25:20 <Bjarni> ahh 21:25:21 <Gonozal_VIII> please do not sleep on the rails 21:25:22 <UnderBuilder> other thing I should like is that from one server you can see other servers, represented as another map that is placed out of a map and darker 21:25:23 <Bjarni> right 21:25:43 <Bjarni> "please do not walk on the tracks" 21:25:43 <Hendikins> They tend to switch off as soon as they hear the chimes from the DVA. Hell, I do the same thing. 21:26:29 <Bjarni> automated messages can be fun 21:26:35 <hylje> haha, imitating buxxers 21:26:35 <Bjarni> when it picks the wrong recording 21:26:48 <Gonozal_VIII> they mostly make usefull announcements here not stuff like doors closing or bibibibi^^ 21:27:15 <Hendikins> That, and I'm more flexible than the DVA. Takes me no time at all to say "Attention passengers on platform 1. Due to a train requiring mechanical repairs at Macquarie Fields earlier this evening, some train services on platform 1 are delayed and out of timetable order. Please listen to announcements and check indicator boards before boarding trains" 21:27:17 <Bjarni> I specially like this one "all trains are delayed due to snow on the tracks" (showed up by accident during the summer) 21:27:37 <hylje> haha 21:27:42 <Hendikins> Feeding that in to the DVA would be long and involved. 21:27:44 <hylje> leaves on the track 21:27:58 <hylje> i heard snow and ice evaporates upon train run 21:28:05 <Gonozal_VIII> they say stuff like: "welcome to linz, you're on platform 5, your next connections are..." 21:28:15 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I'll beat that. "[Passengers are advised] [To] [Mount Victoria] [from the rear]" :P 21:28:39 <Bjarni> here they started something new on the platforms: saying nothing when the trains are delayed 21:28:45 <Hendikins> (4 audio segments) 21:28:46 <UnderBuilder> and you can build transport routes there and start one from one map to other 21:29:04 <Bjarni> and then they hope that people can tell that from saying nothing when the trains are on time 21:29:20 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I'm picky about that. With TLS, I know where trains are and how late they are. I'll say how late it is, and /where/ it is. 21:29:26 <Gonozal_VIII> that won't work UnderBuilder 21:30:10 <Hendikins> eg. "Attention passengers on platform 1, the 4:33 City via Granville service is delayed by approximately 7 minutes. This service has just left Liverpool, and will arrive in approximately 4 - 5 minutes" 21:31:04 <Bjarni> you have a station named Liverpool? 21:31:34 <UnderBuilder> what won't work? the servers one to the side of the other or building in other maps? 21:31:42 <hylje> ts a village somewhwre in the isle 21:31:53 <Gonozal_VIII> both 21:31:59 <Wolf01> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJRnjG3700o&feature=related eh, is lego :D 21:32:21 <Bjarni> Hendikins: btw that's how messages should be.... we never get them like that anymore 21:32:52 <Bjarni> guys.... how many conversations are mixed into each other right now? 21:33:04 <Gonozal_VIII> does that matter bjarni? 21:33:31 <Bjarni> no 21:34:13 <Gonozal_VIII> that's one of the cool things in irc, all can talk at the same time about different things and you can still follow every conversation 21:34:53 <hylje> llama 21:35:37 <Sacro> my god 21:35:47 <Sacro> this psycological experiment is fucking scay 21:35:49 <Sacro> *scary 21:35:53 <Bjarni> Wolf01: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSUJyl_uFGE&feature=related <--- this one is also a decent one :) 21:36:02 <Bjarni> we need those in our lego GRF :D 21:36:03 <Prof_Frink> *psychological 21:36:08 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: yes 21:36:20 <Sacro> basically, 1 question, 4 answers 21:36:24 <Bjarni> Sacro: what is it? 21:36:27 <Sacro> and then when they get it wrong 21:36:34 <Bjarni> evaluate your parents? 21:36:42 <Sacro> they have to zap the person answering with an increasingly high voltage 21:36:44 <Wolf01> Bjarni do you want some competition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F2VR1Vxl94&feature=related :D mine is the best :D 21:36:47 <Sacro> 405V >< 21:36:54 <Bjarni> Sacro: oh that one 21:37:02 <Bjarni> I know that experiment 21:37:06 <Bjarni> they fake it 21:37:15 *** LordAzamath [~LordAzama@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:37:16 <Sacro> Milgrim experiment 21:37:32 <Sacro> holy crap 21:37:39 *** Bjarni was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [Don't you have anything more usefull to do?] 21:37:39 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 21:37:39 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 21:37:40 <Sacro> 50% of them went up to 450V 21:37:57 <Bjarni> the real person being tested is the person taking the order to give the electroshock and see if they will carry out the order 21:38:03 <Bjarni> Belugas: good point 21:38:20 *** Wolf01 was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [Didn't I said once that you do have to follow him?] 21:38:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host42-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:38:31 <Wolf01> :D 21:38:38 <Sacro> Bjarni: yes, that was the idea 21:38:54 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: s/usefull/useful/ 21:39:03 <Sacro> they are trying to get 4 people to steal £100,000 from the Bank of England 21:39:24 <Gonozal_VIII> btw some thing i wondered while testing 32bpp graphics... why does that need more cpu while my system is 32bit anyways? or is that completely unrelated? 21:39:33 <Hendikins> Bjarni: I'm an Aspie. My attention to detail really helps. 21:39:48 <hylje> Gonozal_VIII: more bits to blit 21:40:23 <Hendikins> That, and people want to know what is going on. Whether it is good or bad is fairly immaterial, they just want to knwo 21:40:25 <Hendikins> er, know 21:40:30 <Gonozal_VIII> but the screen doesn't have more pixel... 21:40:34 <Wolf01> http://wolf01.game-host.org/OTTD_related/lego/rough_tile.PNG comments? 21:40:44 <Sacro> Wolf01: you smell like bacon 21:40:49 <hylje> the pixels have 4x as much data 21:40:55 <Prof_Frink> Wolf01: More cowbell 21:41:01 <hylje> 32>8 21:41:04 <Sacro> Wolf01: plz email teh code 21:41:11 <Prof_Frink> Y[21:14:47kpad:~$ sudo aptitude install extragear-plasma plasma-p 21:41:15 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 32bit... but cpu can't handle 8bit stuff anyways 21:41:16 <Prof_Frink> GAH 21:41:23 <Prof_Frink> This is getting annoying 21:41:36 <Wolf01> LeviathNL! 21:42:09 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: quit spamming teh channel 21:42:09 <Gonozal_VIII> that looks like lego that you left lying in the sun... 21:42:18 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Fix mah ultranav 21:42:26 <Sacro> NEVAR 21:42:28 <Bjarni> Hendikins: people always wants to know what goes on... waiting without any message at all makes them impatient. Here the drivers are told to inform whenever they have to stop at a red signal... there is an automated message for it in the train but it's better if the driver tells it too 21:43:10 <Bjarni> so basically the train stops, the automated message goes on and once it's done the driver says "it's still red and I don't know when it will change" 21:43:25 <Gonozal_VIII> they never do that here, they just stop and you wonder why until you see another train pass... 21:44:16 <Bjarni> heh 21:44:16 <Gonozal_VIII> or nothing happens at all... 21:44:43 <Bjarni> maybe the station manager forgot the train... it happens :P 21:45:03 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 21:46:00 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-8-35.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:46:21 <Bjarni> in fact there is a rule that all trains that stops at a red signal has to call in and report it 21:46:27 <Sacro> Hendikins: where do you work? 21:46:39 <Bjarni> to avoid waiting at a red signal that's red because somebody forgot to change it 21:46:40 <Sacro> hmm, .au 21:46:55 <Sacro> Bjarni: you want it to go blue? that will mean changing the builb 21:46:58 <Sacro> *bulb 21:47:05 <Bjarni> Sacro: some electric line in Australia 21:47:10 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know if they call the station, i guess yes but they don't announce it to the passengers 21:47:16 <Prof_Frink> Yay! Dwarfism! 21:47:28 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: indeed 21:47:29 <Bjarni> Sacro: I would want it to turn blue if I were driving in Japan 21:47:56 <Bjarni> (don't ask me why somebody over there figured it would be best to use red, yellow and blue instead of red, yellow and green) 21:48:04 <Sacro> because blue is easier to see 21:48:25 <Sacro> heh i was on MSTS earlier 21:48:29 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Primary colours of pigments? 21:48:42 <Sacro> and I got a big shock as i noticed the signal i was passing at 125mph was 4 aspect showing single yellow 21:49:10 <Bjarni> <Sacro> because blue is easier to see <-- good point... those green lights can be a bit tricky to see in the forest during spring 21:49:38 <Sacro> yep 21:50:53 <Bjarni> <Sacro> and I got a big shock as i noticed the signal i was passing at 125mph was 4 aspect showing single yellow <-- heh.. I tried the Japanese line and got late (that's a disaster in Japan) so I tried to catch up and drove 100 km/h (limit was 110)... all of a sudden I could see the platform I should stop at 21:50:55 <Bjarni> oops 21:51:15 <Sacro> hehe 21:51:29 <Sacro> i had to shove brakes up to 70% to get my HST to stop for the red signal 21:51:29 <Bjarni> 100-0 in the visual range+platform length+1 car 21:51:37 <Bjarni> I only made an overshoot by 1 car 21:51:50 <Bjarni> with 100% brakes 21:52:04 <Gonozal_VIII> don't trains have some kind of counter that shows how far it is until next stop or something? 21:52:25 <Bjarni> there is in MSTS 21:52:34 <Gonozal_VIII> and msts is? 21:52:38 <Prof_Frink> Japanese ones probably have a Star Wars style targetting computer 21:52:52 <hylje> with touch screens 21:53:02 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:53:06 <Sacro> that's not a station 21:53:08 <Bjarni> but I had been driving 40 for a while and when the speed limit was increased I increased speed and then the counter went down rapidly... too quick for me 21:53:14 <Sacro> ITS A MOON 21:53:25 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> and msts is? <-- Microsoft Train Simulator 21:53:54 <Gonozal_VIII> no... i meant in real trains 21:54:01 <Bjarni> <Prof_Frink> Japanese ones probably have a Star Wars style targetting computer <-- they stop at the very same spot each time and have painted where the doors will be 21:54:20 <Bjarni> so yes they have a computer to help 21:54:29 <SpComb> yay centimeter percision 21:54:36 <Bjarni> it is 21:54:38 <Prof_Frink> centimetre? 21:54:46 <Bjarni> if you fix your spelling :P 21:54:48 <Prof_Frink> That's hardly precision. 21:55:08 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> don't trains have some kind of counter that shows how far it is until next stop or something? <-- in real life there is... sort of 21:55:19 <Bjarni> "400 meters to start of platform" 21:55:21 <Bjarni> sign 21:55:25 <Gonozal_VIII> they stop very precise here too, there are some magnet things on the tracks 21:55:45 <Bjarni> we don't use anything like that here 21:56:15 <Bjarni> but ±1 meter is normal when a train stops 21:56:23 <Bjarni> it's not like it's a high precision thing 21:56:29 <Bjarni> why would we need that? :) 21:57:40 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't know why more precision than +-1m would be useful... 21:58:11 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: sex? 21:58:20 <Gonozal_VIII> naaah why? 21:58:21 <Sacro> it requires a lot more accuracy than that 21:58:23 <SpComb> anti-suicide barriers 21:58:39 <Bjarni> <SpComb> anti-suicide barriers <-- we don't have those 21:58:40 <Gonozal_VIII> anti suicide barriers for sex? 21:59:01 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: stop you suffocating 21:59:17 * Bjarni doesn't consider anti suicide barriers very hot 21:59:52 <Sacro> Bjarni: what about buffers? 22:00:05 <Gonozal_VIII> how does a anti suicide barrier work? 22:00:09 <Bjarni> what about them? 22:00:12 *** Diabolic1Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-252.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 22:00:24 <Gonozal_VIII> you can just bump into them :-) 22:00:28 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: tends to be a glass wall between the person and the track 22:00:40 <Sacro> which has doors that only open when the train is there 22:00:52 <Sacro> zomg, honey roast parsnips 22:00:54 <Bjarni> and the glass should be thick enough to take the beating from a person 22:00:58 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... i saw a subway on tv with that 22:01:31 <Sacro> mmm subway 22:01:43 <Bjarni> they only work well if they have sliding doors and the train doors stops at them 22:01:50 <Bjarni> overshooting by 1 meter isn't good 22:01:58 <Gonozal_VIII> btw i saw something interesting here two days ago... on a combined freight and passenger station 22:02:15 <Bjarni> mixed train? 22:02:18 <Gonozal_VIII> the tracks are sloped and they have the wagons on the upper side 22:02:31 <Gonozal_VIII> they don't move them with engines, they just let them roll 22:02:39 <Bjarni> ahh 22:02:39 <Bjarni> that 22:02:51 <Bjarni> we just banned that here 22:02:54 <Bjarni> too dangerous 22:02:55 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 22:03:16 <Gonozal_VIII> not long ago they destroyed a full oil tanker wagon that way, had to dig out a lot of ground 22:03:31 <Gonozal_VIII> diesel actually 22:03:34 * Bjarni remembers a story about the passengers standing at a station and all of a sudden a single car with no engine drives by 22:03:53 <Bjarni> and a moment later a switching engine drives in the same track at full RPM trying to catch up with it 22:03:56 <Gonozal_VIII> the freight platforms are far behind the passenger platforms 22:04:21 <Sacro> hump shunting! 22:05:05 <Sacro> gah, without a trace doesn't do real ATC 22:05:19 <Sacro> whoooo a plane crash! 22:05:24 <Gonozal_VIII> ? 22:05:33 <Bjarni> the problem is that some guy figured out to do with with 10 ton cars ages ago... modern freight cars are way heavier 22:06:07 <Sacro> damn, they missed 22:06:20 <hylje> humpyard 22:06:21 <Sacro> Bjarni: you are missing words out 22:06:34 <Bjarni> so what? 22:06:55 <Bjarni> s/with/it 22:06:55 <Sacro> your sentances make no sense 22:07:00 <Gonozal_VIII> so the other words will feel lonely 22:07:03 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-236.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:07:07 <Bjarni> the problem is that some guy figured out to do IT with 10 ton cars ages ago... modern freight cars are way heavier 22:07:08 <Sacro> Bjarni: error, unterminated sed command 22:07:30 <Sacro> and you mean s/with/it\ with/ 22:08:17 <Gonozal_VIII> they seem to do it here all the time with guys running in front of and around the rolling wagons... 22:08:33 <Bjarni> it's faster to do so 22:09:03 <Bjarni> maybe they have something to catch the cars before they leave the station if they lose it 22:09:13 <Wolf01> 'night 22:09:17 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host42-236-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:09:26 <Bjarni> like a switch turning into nothing so it derails instead of hitting a train 22:09:42 <Sacro> catch point 22:10:03 * Bjarni nominates Sacro as catcher 22:10:10 <hylje> once upon a time 22:10:12 <Bjarni> you can borrow my catching glove 22:10:20 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 22:10:32 <Gonozal_VIII> no they can't roll out of the station, there is already the engine and maybe other wagons waiting 22:10:32 <Sacro> what am i catching? 22:10:41 <Sacro> it already burns when i pee 22:11:02 <Bjarni> ... 22:11:10 <hylje> a couple of cars were left unsupervised on the pasila station. the cars had no brakes, and they rolled down to the central station 22:11:15 <Bjarni> sounds like Sacro managed to get a Chinese STD 22:11:17 <hylje> the platforms didnt like that 22:11:21 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r5bn73.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 22:12:03 <Bjarni> heh 22:12:29 <Gonozal_VIII> would the brakes work without an engine attached? so that one of those guys in yellow could hop on in case of the car being too fast and pull the brakes? 22:12:40 <Bjarni> a few years ago somewhere in Rocky mountains that happened to some freight cars 22:12:41 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: it should have normal brakes 22:12:45 <Sacro> westinghouse? 22:12:47 <Bjarni> except they left the station 22:12:50 <Sacro> or are westinghouse airbrakes 22:13:04 <Sacro> hmm, just got a weather popup, Clear -3c 22:13:28 <Bjarni> so 6 cars took it all the way down Rocky Mountains 22:13:36 <Bjarni> ... fully loaded with timber 22:13:50 <Bjarni> all their attempts to stop it failed 22:13:57 <Bjarni> s/it/them 22:14:15 <Bjarni> in the end they were derailed on purpose before entering Los Angeles 22:14:16 *** Brianetta [~brian@82-39-52-234.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [] 22:14:22 <Bjarni> I saw pictures of it 22:14:26 <Bjarni> timber everywhere 22:14:31 <Gonozal_VIII> couldn't you let an engine drive in front of them and then brake gently? 22:14:51 <Bjarni> one engine wouldn't be enough 22:14:59 <Gonozal_VIII> for 6 cars? 22:15:03 *** DJ_Mirage [~sexybigge@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:15:14 <Bjarni> downhill 22:15:16 <Sacro> you need a big elastic band 22:15:20 <Bjarni> and they were fully loaded 22:15:23 <Gonozal_VIII> how fast were they? 22:15:29 <Bjarni> way too fast 22:15:32 <Bjarni> they were speeding 22:15:51 <Gonozal_VIII> you could attach the engine and use the brakes of the wagons too... 22:16:15 <Bjarni> good luck climbing in between the engine and the cars to connect the air hose 22:17:32 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> would the brakes work without an engine attached? so that one of those guys in yellow could hop on in case of the car being too fast and pull the brakes? <-- the engine can fill the brake pipe with air and then disconnect the car without letting any air out. Then the brakes will not apply but if the pressure is lost (like opening a cock) then the car will emergency brake 22:17:45 <Sacro> hehehe, cock 22:18:09 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i don't know if we have pneumatic brakes 22:18:40 <Bjarni> all freight trains in Europe use Knorr air brakes @ 5 atm pressure 22:18:52 <Bjarni> otherwise we couldn't send cars across the borders 22:18:59 <Gonozal_VIII> ah 22:19:29 <Gonozal_VIII> they attach some stuff, looks like all cables... but could be air too 22:19:31 <Prof_Frink> Knorr? Stock cubes? 22:19:41 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: they got the knorr how 22:19:44 *** Zaviori [~zavior@195.237.7.209] has joined #openttd 22:19:59 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4AC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 22:20:02 <skidd13> Hi 22:20:06 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 22:20:18 <SpComb> hoi 22:20:43 *** Diabolic1Angel is now known as Diabolic-Angel 22:20:58 <Bjarni> so if you fill up a car with stuff and want to send it to say Stockholm then first you take it to Germany with a local engine. Then a German engine takes it to the Danish border. Then a Danish Engine takes it to Sweden and then a Swedish engine takes it to Stockholm 22:21:13 <Bjarni> now wouldn't it be brilliant if all those engines could apply the brakes on the car? 22:21:21 <Bjarni> @ Gonozal_VIII 22:21:33 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe i got it by now :P 22:21:40 <Rubidium> Digitalfox: no, whenever one makes a build with assertions enabled it will assert in error. Only when you do disable assertions (which will be done for real stable releases) there will be no assertion there. 22:21:51 <Bjarni> the same goes for gauge 22:21:54 <SpComb> nah, you just set the cars free on the german/danish border and they roll down to the seaside 22:22:00 <Rubidium> it has nothing to do with something being nightly or trunk 22:22:02 <Bjarni> luckily we tend to use the same all over 22:23:40 <Bjarni> http://www.jernbanen.dk/motor.asp?s=8&litra=EG&typenr= <-- actually this would likely be what would pull the car though Denmark since it can go to Germany and pick up the car and then go to Sweden to drop it off 22:23:57 <Bjarni> it's strong enough and can handle the change of voltage in the catenary 22:24:05 <Bjarni> not to mention different ATC systems 22:25:35 <Gonozal_VIII> what's co-co? 22:26:05 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:27 <Gonozal_VIII> i can see, that there are 3 and then another 3... but why co-co? 22:26:42 <Sacro> cos it aint bo-co 22:26:49 <Sacro> nor bo-bo 22:27:14 <Bjarni> because it has traction on all wheels.... 22:27:26 <Bjarni> hence Co-Co 22:27:36 <Gonozal_VIII> ah... 22:27:42 <Sacro> 6 wheel bogie, all axles powered 22:27:54 <Bjarni> this would be way easier if you knew the symtax :P 22:28:09 <Gonozal_VIII> or danish^^ 22:28:38 <Bjarni> - <-- this indicates that the engine has bogies and this sign tells where the room between the bogies are 22:28:47 <Sacro> ooh, there was abritish co-bo 22:29:03 <Prof_Frink> Hur hur, Bjarni has bogies 22:29:27 <Gonozal_VIII> boobies? 22:29:30 <Bjarni> o indicates that the axles are independent (not with rods like steam locomotives where the wheels are fixed compared to each other) 22:30:12 * Sacro wants to see a Zo-Zo 22:30:43 <Gonozal_VIII> they are not fixed? are they not driven by the same motor? 22:30:56 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: nope, independant 22:31:35 <Bjarni> the engine has 6 electric engines 22:31:47 <Bjarni> each with it's own 3 phase controller 22:32:02 <Bjarni> you can make it make wheelslip on one axle only if you want to 22:32:07 *** Tefad_ [~tefad@c-71-63-8-35.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 22:32:13 <Bjarni> well... the driver can't 22:32:17 <Bjarni> the technology can 22:32:24 <Bjarni> the driver can't make wheelslip at all 22:32:29 <Gonozal_VIII> to polish the rail :-) 22:32:30 <Bjarni> software prevents it 22:32:32 * Sacro considers freezing his hard drive 22:32:55 <Bjarni> Sacro: do that.... the liquid capacitors will love you for it 22:33:35 <Gonozal_VIII> there's liquid in a hd? 22:33:41 <Bjarni> <Gonozal_VIII> to polish the rail :-) <-- I can imagine cheaper ways of doing so 22:33:58 <Sacro> hmm, its an external 22:34:06 <Sacro> the transformer might not be happy 22:34:30 <Sacro> grr, this hard drive is fine under power 22:34:36 <Sacro> but fails when i plug in the USB cable 22:35:34 <Gonozal_VIII> try it without the external case 22:35:42 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: i can't get the case off 22:35:45 <Sacro> tis well sealed 22:35:53 <Bjarni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor <-- those are common in electronics and contains a liquid 22:35:53 <Sacro> not without physically breaking it 22:36:30 <Gonozal_VIII> look carefully, there should be some trick to get it opne 22:36:30 * Sacro thumps it hard 22:36:33 <Gonozal_VIII> en 22:36:43 <Sacro> hmm, that stopped it spinning 22:36:48 * Bjarni points at the screws 22:36:52 <Gonozal_VIII> ^^ 22:36:57 <Sacro> Bjarni: it has no screws 22:37:08 <Bjarni> that is what they want you to think 22:37:12 <Gonozal_VIII> they don't use screws very often anymore for that stuff 22:37:30 <Bjarni> they put a pretty plastic thingie over the screws so the end user will not open it on their own 22:37:32 <Sacro> Bjarni: no, seriously, no scrwes 22:37:34 <Sacro> yep 22:38:27 <Gonozal_VIII> mine has just plastic click thingies without any screws 22:38:52 *** Tefad [~tefad@c-71-63-8-35.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:54 * Bjarni has screws in all his hardware 22:39:24 <Bjarni> some of it has them concealed but they are there 22:39:31 <Gonozal_VIII> i had to squeeze around until i found them and then used a thin screwdriver to unclick it^^ 22:40:22 * Bjarni put his external drives together by hand 22:40:39 <Bjarni> I bought some empty cases to add standard IDE drives in 22:40:41 <Gonozal_VIII> i replaced the hd in the case 22:41:13 <Bjarni> the old computer had more room for HDs inside than the new one 22:41:21 <Sacro> [22:39] * Bjarni has screws in all his hardware <- sniggah 22:41:55 * Bjarni wonders what Sacro meant by that 22:42:20 <Gonozal_VIII> he meant screw you 22:42:35 <Bjarni> I don't think so 22:43:04 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Bjarni [now I get it.... sick bastard] 22:43:18 <Gonozal_VIII> :S 22:43:19 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-39-241.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 22:43:24 <Sacro> took your time 22:43:56 <Bjarni> it's so far from my world that it didn't come to mind 22:44:11 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c211-28-160-2.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 22:44:14 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Are you sure you're a bloke? 22:44:18 <Bjarni> Sacroã®ãžããã 22:44:24 <Sacro> :o 22:44:26 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C585.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44:52 <Prof_Frink> Ooh, those look much smoother in konsole4 22:45:15 <Sacro> Ю 22:45:18 <Sacro> tis the enterprise 22:45:32 <Bjarni> <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Are you sure you're a bloke? <-- now what is that supposed to mean? 22:45:32 <Prof_Frink> No. 22:45:50 <Prof_Frink> 'tis a TIE Fighter that's just been shot down 22:46:19 <Bjarni> Sacro: you are not allowed to say anything in here until you realise what I just said about you 22:46:53 <Prof_Frink> Now *that's* weird. 22:47:17 <Bjarni> let's see if he can figure it out 22:47:35 <Prof_Frink> Your foreign language comes through fine, unless I switch from window 2, in which case the first character remains a bold 'h' 22:47:58 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 22:47:58 <Bjarni> !logs 22:48:07 <Gonozal_VIII> it's all squares and funny stuff here 22:48:25 <Bjarni> it's printed correctly in the new log system 22:48:25 <Prof_Frink> you UTFail8 22:49:19 * Sacro fails too 22:49:25 <Sacro> and i need a wee 22:49:32 <Sacro> oh and i am le tired 22:49:42 <Bjarni> you haven't figured it out yet? 22:49:50 <Sacro> no 22:50:08 <Bjarni> heh 22:50:19 <Sacro> i don't speak dutch 22:50:25 <Bjarni> ROFL 22:50:27 <Rubidium> Sacro: you don't? 22:50:34 <Gonozal_VIII> that was dutch? 22:50:38 <Prof_Frink> I can speak any language. 22:50:52 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: when what did I say about Sacro? 22:51:04 <Prof_Frink> Bjarni: Speak, not read 22:51:10 <Bjarni> ahh 22:51:16 <Prof_Frink> If they don't understand me first time, I repeat it. LOUDER AND SLOWER. 22:51:23 <Sacro> Bjarni: you didn't say anything about me 22:51:32 <Sacro> tis a noun not a verb 22:51:37 <Bjarni> I did 22:51:46 <Bjarni> I made a statement about you 22:51:53 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:51:53 <Bjarni> Sacroã®ãžããã <-- see 22:51:57 <Bjarni> it's a statement 22:51:58 <Sacro> Bjarni: ã°ãããããããã³ 22:52:01 <Bjarni> well... it's a fact 22:52:01 * Prof_Frink verbs Sacro's adjective noun adverbly 22:52:25 <Bjarni> now you are mixing hiragana and katakana 22:53:02 <Sacro> yep 22:53:09 <Sacro> i like to keep you on your toes 22:53:44 <glx> katakana is usually used for "non japanese" words 22:53:45 * Hendikins pads back in to the channel 22:53:48 <Hendikins> I can has laptop? 22:54:08 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-215-69.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: good night] 22:54:09 <Bjarni> ã§ããã³ãã¢ã¯ã§ã 22:54:45 <Bjarni> ã§ããã³ãã¢ã¯ããã§ã 22:54:45 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:54:52 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 22:54:54 <Bjarni> forget the first one 22:55:09 <Bjarni> I'm not THAT big :P 22:55:18 <Gonozal_VIII> Hendikins nowai 22:55:44 <Bjarni> <glx> katakana is usually used for "non japanese" words <-- in this case "Dutch" 22:56:31 <Bjarni> and Sacro is a fool to call me a Dutch fool 22:56:55 <Bjarni> that and presuming that I couldn't read what he wrote 22:58:00 <Sacro> but DENMAAKU dust. 22:58:02 <Sacro> err... 22:58:08 <Rubidium> Bjarni: you should really stop spamming those Japanese words here 22:58:15 <Sacro> yes Bjarni 22:58:21 <Sacro> use English 23:00:50 <Bjarni> hehe.... I made a valid Japanese sentence that babelfish fails to translate :D 23:01:18 <Bjarni> now Sacro is screwed so I guess I better tell him 23:01:24 <Sacro> ç§ã®ããŒããŒã¯ã©ããããã£ã±ãã®eelsã®äžå¡ 23:01:40 <Bjarni> "but I'm Danish" <-- that's what it said 23:01:40 <Sacro> hmm, it didn't translate eels 23:01:46 <Bjarni> lol 23:02:12 <Bjarni> overloading your hovercraft? :) 23:02:38 <Bjarni> hahaha 23:02:46 <Bjarni> babelfish is really funny sometimes 23:02:47 <Bjarni> "My hovercraft one member of full eels" 23:03:02 *** skidd13 [~skidd13@p548A4AC6.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #openttd [Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt] 23:03:07 <Sacro> Bjarni: zomg, it got it right 23:03:09 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 23:03:49 <Gonozal_VIII> that's what you wrote? O_o 23:03:54 <Gonozal_VIII> makes no sense at all 23:03:55 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: yes 23:04:01 <Sacro> My hovercraft is full of eels 23:04:18 <Bjarni> that's not what babelfish says 23:04:20 <Gonozal_VIII> and that makes sense because? 23:04:21 <glx> hoobaakurafuto <-- I like how they translate english to japanese using phonetic 23:04:27 *** Zaviori [~zavior@195.237.7.209] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:59 <Gonozal_VIII> hovercraft can't transport fish! 23:05:22 <glx> refit :) 23:05:43 <Sacro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ve37gVwxw 23:05:50 <Sacro> for those that have no idea :o 23:05:52 <Sacro> :p 23:06:53 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:06:57 <Gonozal_VIII> aaaaah :D 23:07:28 <Sacro> you shouldn't always trust a foreign phrasebook 23:07:49 <Prof_Frink> Can I fondle your buttocks? 23:07:53 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 23:08:22 <Sacro> hmm 23:08:25 <Sacro> thats not the full version 23:08:36 <Sacro> heh 23:08:43 <Sacro> One Foot in the Grave - Honda Song 23:14:08 <Bjarni> Sacro: "My hovercraft one member of full eels" <-- you said it got it right but I wonder about "one number" 23:14:29 *** Sacro was kicked from #openttd by Belugas [one day, it will be a ban. NO YOUTUBE!!] 23:14:42 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:16:16 <Prof_Frink> Belugas: I thought there was an exception for on-topic 23:19:44 <Rubidium> Prof_Frink: and what if they are not on-topic? 23:20:00 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-171-87-247.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:20:57 *** thgerg1 [~Administr@dsl51B788C5.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:21:20 <Prof_Frink> Then Belugas continues to abuse his power 23:21:41 * Prof_Frink considers reviving heavy metal #openttd 23:22:45 <Bjarni> but then it wouldn't be abuse 23:23:09 <Bjarni> but heavy metal is a reason to ban people in here 23:23:43 <Bjarni> you see.... it's kind of late for some of the clients and we don't want to wake up neighbours 23:24:11 <Prof_Frink> Thus, we have... 23:24:20 <Prof_Frink> #öpenttd 23:25:08 <SpComb> heavy metal umlaut! 23:25:23 <Prof_Frink> Yaarp. 23:25:26 <mikl> just like hëavÿ metÀl 23:26:07 <Belugas> so next time a on-topic-youtube is been shown, it might be better for the poster to announce it: YOutube for train/whatever. otherwise... 23:26:35 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: rubidium * r11630 /trunk/src/network/network_gui.cpp: -Fix [FS#1544] (r11556): the chat GUI got broken. 23:26:55 <svippy> ;-; 23:26:58 <Rubidium> the youtube you kicked Sacro for was not a related to OTTD in any matter (was some Monty Python) 23:27:00 <svippy> Umlaut is so abused. 23:27:08 <svippy> Hence why I laughed when I saw Þ in Futurama. 23:27:17 <mikl> Rubidium: yay, monty Python 23:27:29 <svippy> Those silly Americans, they don't even know that Þ does not exist in Swedish. 23:28:03 <Prof_Frink> svippy: Then how do you designate diameters? 23:28:28 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has joined #openttd 23:28:30 <mikl> svippy: many monospace fonts actually have a line through the zero to make it resemble à 23:28:47 <Prof_Frink> Rubidium: It was on the topic of "My hovercraft is full of eels" 23:28:54 <svippy> There is a separate letter for that, Prof_Frink. 23:29:17 <svippy> And the monospace font I am using makes a clear destination between à and 0. 23:29:19 <Prof_Frink> Does UTF-8 really not have n-umlaut? 23:29:29 <svippy> Check Wikipedia. 23:30:09 <glx> <Prof_Frink> Does UTF-8 really not have n-umlaut? <-- at least I can't type it directly 23:30:22 <Bjarni> same here 23:30:24 * Belugas thinks that he'd better get out of irc for a while, his bad temper starts to re-emerge while his fatigue grows bigger and bigger 23:31:20 <svippy> Hehe... 23:32:10 <Prof_Frink> The spoof band SpınÌal Tap raised the stakes in 1984 by using an umlaut over the letter n, i.e. over a consonant (it also makes use of a dotless i). This construction is in fact found in the Jacaltec language of Guatemala and in some orthographies of Malagasy, a language of Madagascar, although the creators of the band name were probably not aware of this. 23:33:09 <Bjarni> goodnight 23:33:11 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:37:49 <Tefad_> hmm, that word rendered correctly here 23:37:56 <Tefad_> SpınÌal 23:37:58 <Tefad_> hee 23:38:27 <Prof_Frink> dotless I works, numlaut doesn't 23:38:37 <Prof_Frink> (was copypasta from wiki) 23:39:33 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:40:02 <svippy> Well well... 23:40:08 <svippy> Better fix your keymap then. 23:40:16 <svippy> And also, explain to me what this is Î . 23:40:29 <Prof_Frink> svippy: cherries. 23:40:35 <svippy> :O 23:42:00 *** titus_ [~titus@intter.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:42:13 *** titus [~titus@intter.net] has joined #openttd 23:43:45 *** Priski [priski@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 23:45:08 <Tefad_> svippy: when i try to copy/paste it comes up as # 23:45:11 <Tefad_> this is Î . 23:45:14 <Tefad_> hmm n/m 23:45:24 <svippy> Crazy, huh? 23:45:43 <Tefad_> s #hat this is Î .this is Î is # 23:45:45 <Tefad_> hmm. 23:45:51 <Tefad_> depends on where i click. 23:46:10 <Tefad_> Î Î Î Î Î Î 23:46:13 <Tefad_> ^ 23:46:17 <Tefad_> Î Î Î Î Î Î 23:46:24 <Tefad_> Î ^Î ^Î ^Î ^Î ^Î ^ 23:46:33 <Tefad_> Î ^~Î ^~Î ^~Î ^~Î ^~Î ^~ 23:46:43 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 23:47:50 *** Stoffe [~mirc@h2n2fls308o838.telia.com] has quit [Quit: Peace and Protection 4.22.2] 23:49:30 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:27 *** Aerandir [magic.powe@90-230-201-111-no37.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Quit: - nbs-irc 2.36 - www.nbs-irc.net -] 23:58:39 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:58:57 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-213-196-229-252.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: schlafenszeit]