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02:28:27 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-248-122.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:34:39 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:35:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:48:32 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.143] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 02:58:55 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:59:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:11:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11987 /trunk/src/industry_gui.cpp: 03:11:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Feature[newGRF]: Allow the industry view window to be resized only when callback 38 (Show additional text in industry fund window) is available for the current industry. 03:11:40 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: This now allows grf authors to specify longer than 3 lines of text. 03:12:46 <Belugas> opups... 03:12:49 <Belugas> wrong call back 03:12:59 <Belugas> 3A... 03:20:48 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:21:09 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:21:37 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 03:22:14 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:22:35 *** glx [~glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:22:37 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:27:56 *** MDGrein [~MDGrein@c-e43472d5.02-56-736b7610.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [] 03:35:48 *** Gonozal_VIII [user@cm56-182-132.liwest.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:39:36 *** NukeBuster|away [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 03:40:43 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 03:40:53 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:45:52 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 03:46:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 03:46:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:00:55 *** Tino|Home [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:07:13 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F57775.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:08:41 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:09:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:32:58 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:33:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 04:39:58 *** mmcbane [~Maui_key@p5498EF6C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:41:20 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498F3D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:56:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 04:56:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 05:00:02 *** valhalla1w [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 05:07:04 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@a62-251-30-68.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:18:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:19:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 05:42:37 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 05:42:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:03:22 *** Maarten [~dutchusa@cpe-66-74-155-152.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:05:13 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:05:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:29:33 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:29:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:32:28 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 06:32:28 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:52:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:52:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:59:56 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 07:00:01 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 07:00:08 <Draakon> hi 07:00:31 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 07:01:33 <Draakon> does anyone knows a savegame for copy&paster templates? 07:02:02 <Gonozal_VIII> good junctions and stations? 07:02:14 <Gonozal_VIII> don't load coop games ;-) 07:02:39 <Draakon> why? 07:03:45 <Gonozal_VIII> ok, some or even most of their stuff is ok/good... but some others look very advanced but are much less efficient than a simple approach 07:05:12 <Draakon> i dont think so 07:06:21 <Gonozal_VIII> there was for example a unloading station with 18 platforms... two lines entering, totally mixed through each other, lots of presignals... and a huge jam 07:06:39 <Draakon> it can be fixed 07:07:54 <Gonozal_VIII> yes but after the fixing there's nothing left the way it was^^ 07:08:24 <Draakon> should be? its broken anyway 07:08:40 <Gonozal_VIII> but then why copy it in the first place... 07:09:21 <Draakon> first fix, then copy 07:09:46 <Gonozal_VIII> their design for 2 platform terminal station works better than any other i know... you can copy that :-) 07:11:07 <Draakon> you mean Osai style terminus? 07:11:16 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm there should be a download section for copy paste templates 07:12:12 <Draakon> i dont use terminus stations, never, because they cant handle so much traffic as good roro does 07:12:14 <Gonozal_VIII> ah yes, 4 platform not 2 07:12:47 *** Jortuny-away [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:12:57 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, roro is always better... but i couldn't get any better results with terminus than that 07:14:10 <Gonozal_VIII> i still have my junction design screenshots on my webspace :-) 07:14:12 <Gonozal_VIII> http://gonozalviii.go.funpic.de/OpenTTD/junction.png 07:14:26 <Gonozal_VIII> http://gonozalviii.go.funpic.de/OpenTTD/junction2.png 07:14:30 <Gonozal_VIII> http://gonozalviii.go.funpic.de/OpenTTD/junction3.png 07:15:12 <Draakon> http://www.openttdcoop.org/wiki/images/a/af/Roroentrance_1.PNG 07:15:21 <Draakon> this entrace for roro is good 07:15:29 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm no^^ 07:15:32 <Draakon> yes 07:15:50 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:16:04 <Gonozal_VIII> same style as the one that caused the big jam 07:16:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 07:17:02 <Draakon> because the exit was not good 07:17:13 <Gonozal_VIII> no the exit was free, the entry jammed 07:17:32 <Gonozal_VIII> the exit was overloaded after i fixed the entry... 07:17:46 <Gonozal_VIII> but only until the jam was gone 07:18:19 <Draakon> the screenshot i showed you, had 6 platforms, it can be extended to 64 07:18:27 <Draakon> which means, jam free one 07:18:28 <Gonozal_VIII> long seperate entries are fine... but no switches there and no presignals... 07:18:45 <Gonozal_VIII> but add a bunch of normal signals 07:18:50 <Gonozal_VIII> pathfinder handles the balancing 07:18:57 <Gonozal_VIII> works perfectly fine 07:19:40 <Draakon> normal are not good 07:20:03 <Gonozal_VIII> they are... no trains have to stop or slow down 07:20:07 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 07:21:24 <Gonozal_VIII> from the 18 platforms that were terribly jammed before were only ~10 in use most of the time after i rebuilt the entry, no waiting trains, no jams 07:21:37 <Draakon> anyway i found a ancient savegame from the forums which has templates, im going to show a good one for you 07:22:23 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-128-64.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 07:22:24 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:36 <Draakon> http://i25.tinypic.com/2md2a6v.png 07:22:38 <Draakon> http://i25.tinypic.com/2en8diu.png 07:22:39 <Draakon> http://i32.tinypic.com/126ef48.png 07:22:41 <Draakon> a roro station 07:22:55 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@160.114.159.99] has joined #openttd 07:24:09 <Gonozal_VIII> almost the same style i used myself some time ago :-) 07:25:41 <Gonozal_VIII> but i found out that the pathfinder is very good at balancing 07:25:44 <Draakon> a very good one here, about 400 goods trains visit it 07:26:52 <Gonozal_VIII> just normal diagonal line with a straight line splitting from it to every platform and enough normal signals and it balances out 07:28:05 <Draakon> that style i showed, it has normals at entrances, and presignals at platform entaces 07:28:44 <Gonozal_VIII> i can see that 07:30:04 <Draakon> http://i31.tinypic.com/29xawiw.png 07:30:06 <Draakon> http://i27.tinypic.com/vpuu1k.png 07:30:10 <Draakon> another style for you 07:30:16 <Gonozal_VIII> and since i saw it i'm trying to figure out the trick behind those combos 07:30:49 <Gonozal_VIII> (why they have a exit AND a combo in front of every platform) 07:31:02 <Gonozal_VIII> more pathfinder penalty? 07:31:46 <Draakon> you dont get the idea? presignals dont make penalty 07:32:52 <Gonozal_VIII> why else do they build those? 07:33:09 <Gonozal_VIII> yellow and grey... doesn't make sense 07:33:47 <Draakon> well build the station, have 300 trains use that station, then you can get the idea behind it 07:34:10 <Draakon> rail_longer_platform_penalty 07:34:11 <Draakon> rail_longer_platform_per_tile_penalty 07:34:13 <Draakon> rail_shorter_platform_penalty 07:34:14 <Draakon> rail_shorter_platform_per_tile_penalty 07:34:16 <Draakon> road_slope_penalty 07:34:17 <Draakon> road_curve_penalty 07:34:19 <Draakon> road_crossing_penalty 07:34:20 <Draakon> road_stop_penalty 07:34:22 <Draakon> these are yapfs penaltys 07:34:34 <Draakon> signals arent included 07:35:16 <Gonozal_VIII> rail_look_ahead_max_signals = 10 07:35:17 <Gonozal_VIII> rail_look_ahead_signal_p0 = 500 07:35:17 <Gonozal_VIII> rail_look_ahead_signal_p1 = -100 07:35:17 <Gonozal_VIII> rail_look_ahead_signal_p2 = 5 07:35:44 <Draakon> do you know that you can change them to fit your needs anyway? 07:36:08 <Gonozal_VIII> it works the way it is ;-) 07:37:50 <Draakon> also coop's(me too) use loadbalancers in front of a station, so no need for normal signals to do the work 07:38:30 <Gonozal_VIII> overcomplicating easy tasks ;-) 07:38:43 <Draakon> no 07:39:26 <Draakon> anyway, i wonder do you know whats this for: http://i31.tinypic.com/dmwqb9.png 07:39:28 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 07:39:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 07:42:33 <Gonozal_VIII> i'm sure there are ways to block a track with only changing one signal that don't involve a poor trapped train... 07:44:09 <Draakon> heres the reason its good for: http://i27.tinypic.com/2mwcyvp.png 07:44:10 *** nfc_ [~nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-105.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:44:10 <Draakon> helps you to block entry to a station, hub or a junction till you construct or remake it, then reverse the signal again and the trains can move again 07:44:33 <Gonozal_VIII> i figured that out 07:44:36 <Gonozal_VIII> ;-) 07:52:56 <Draakon> is there a way, for example this: http://hg.openttd.org:8000/svn/trunk.hg/rev/2958f008be13 to get a patch file of the fix? 07:54:14 <SpComb> Logs: http://spbot.marttila.de:8120/logs/oftc-ottd (old: http://zapotek.paivola.fi/~terom/logs/openttd ) 07:54:14 <Draakon> !logs 07:58:09 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has joined #openttd 08:02:45 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:03:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:06:07 <Draakon> nvm i got it 08:06:43 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 08:06:43 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@160.114.159.99] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:12:41 <Draakon> argh 08:19:50 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:24:23 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 08:24:24 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:27:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:30:43 *** MiHaMeK [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has joined #openttd 08:30:43 *** MiHaMiX [~miham@xenon.bibl.u-szeged.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:50:34 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 08:50:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 08:51:32 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 08:58:21 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host244-238-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:58:26 <Eddi|zuHause2> any dev around here this early? i need a little input on http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=35960&p=660138#p660138 . i believe it is a semantics error in the code 08:58:34 <Wolf01> hello 09:01:03 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 09:02:10 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 09:04:31 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 09:07:56 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 09:13:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 09:14:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 09:16:44 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 09:22:11 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 09:25:13 *** Wolf01|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 09:38:31 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 09:38:32 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 10:16:01 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2775.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:19:37 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #openttd 10:20:05 <Draakon> hi 10:26:21 *** anhedral is now known as dih 10:28:35 <Wolf01> hi 10:29:01 *** Draakon [~chatzilla@88-196-103-161-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.79 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 10:34:57 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 10:37:47 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789A5.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #openttd 10:38:40 *** thgergo [~Administr@dsl51B789A5.pool.t-online.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:50:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B81487.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:41 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:50:41 *** tokai [~tokai@p54B841D3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 10:50:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:50:41 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 10:51:53 <Gonozal_VIII> <-- back 10:52:36 <dih> --> gone 10:52:36 <Gonozal_VIII> and you all missed me 10:52:58 <dih> or souls i say 10:53:01 <dih> --> front 10:54:19 *** Species8472 [~nnscript@ip54576152.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 10:55:00 <Species8472> hello, i just downloaded your game, and decided to try and play. So I joined a server, said hello, and moments later was kicked. 10:55:27 <Gonozal_VIII> dihedral server? with nickname player? 10:55:44 <Species8472> no with nickname hello... 10:55:56 <Gonozal_VIII> hmm 10:56:03 <Species8472> Im banned now, no idea why, I didnt do something wrong ( I think?) 10:56:16 <Gonozal_VIII> what server? 10:56:24 <Species8472> dihedral server, i think. 10:56:32 <Gonozal_VIII> dih? 10:58:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i know he has a script that kicks players with the default nickname player... but ban for hello seems strange 10:58:29 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 10:58:38 <Species8472> well I did join back, someone said to put password on company, I said its ok others can join. And then I was kicked again and couldnt rejoin. 10:58:56 <Species8472> Can you recommend any good servers? 10:59:34 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't play on public servers 11:01:41 <Zavior> You really should put password on your company anyway =) 11:02:15 <Species8472> then other players cant join... 11:02:25 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has joined #openttd 11:02:46 <Zavior> Well I guess its fine if you know everyone in the game 11:03:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N889P021.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:03:23 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:03:33 <Species8472> is this dih person the admin? 11:03:39 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 11:04:00 <Species8472> ok well maybe he can explain the kick and ban then 11:04:25 <Gonozal_VIII> [11:52:36] dih: --> gone 11:04:31 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:04:39 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess he is afk 11:04:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:05:38 *** snorre [~snorre@c60FC00C3.dhcp.bluecom.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:07:25 <dih> hmm? 11:08:20 <dih> species8472 - how about reading the server rules before complaining here? 11:08:27 <Gonozal_VIII> you closed the fluidic rift 11:08:40 <dih> ?? 11:09:08 <Gonozal_VIII> portal to fluidic space... 11:09:11 <Species8472> sorry i didnt see any server rules 11:09:16 <Species8472> where can i find them? 11:09:25 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:09:25 <dih> http://openttd.dihedral.de/rules 11:10:09 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@82-170-90-51-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 11:10:37 <Species8472> ok I read them, can i be unbanned now? 11:10:48 <dih> sure - give me a sec 11:11:03 <dih> yet - if you dont stick to them - dont be surprised 11:11:29 <Species8472> I will try my best... There are a lot of rules :) 11:11:39 <dih> yes 11:11:58 <dih> the password thing is because we have seen too many open companies being used to destroy the map 11:12:06 <dih> which does not just ruin the game of one person 11:12:32 <Species8472> oh right, i understand then 11:13:07 <Species8472> and please dont see me coming here as a complaint, I just didnt understand what was going wrong 11:13:38 <dih> even if you were trying to complain here 11:13:45 <Species8472> meh. my company is gone 11:14:15 <dih> the only relation my servers have with this channel is that the games hosted are openttd 11:16:33 *** dih is now known as anhedral 11:18:00 *** Tino|Home is now known as TinoM 11:19:36 <Gonozal_VIII> yay new sga :D 11:20:36 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 11:20:40 <Zavior> ep14 is it? 11:20:42 <Zavior> Or 15 11:20:46 <Gonozal_VIII> 14 11:25:29 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:27:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:28:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 11:28:48 *** hfhdhgjf [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 11:28:48 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest645 11:28:48 *** Guest645 is now known as Guest646 11:28:49 *** hfhdhgjf is now known as Gonozal_VIII 11:29:55 *** Guest646 [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:31:55 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:32:47 *** anhedral is now known as dih 11:33:45 <SmatZ> hello 11:33:58 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 11:34:09 * dih waves 11:34:36 * Prof_Frink microwaves 11:35:00 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 11:35:24 <SmatZ> :) 11:35:47 * dih longwaves 11:35:48 * hylje macrowaves 11:36:01 <Gonozal_VIII> i just wanted to write macrowaves! 11:36:05 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@149-011-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 11:36:06 * dih waves hylje 11:36:08 <Gonozal_VIII> no fair 11:36:17 <dih> like a flag 11:36:19 <dih> ^^ 11:36:45 <Gonozal_VIII> the macrowave from the men's kitchen 11:36:59 <dih> :-P 11:37:09 <dih> dont wanna know what that looks like 11:37:32 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:37:39 <Gonozal_VIII> makes a normal potato hot and green glowing in only 3 seconds^^ 11:39:01 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 11:39:19 <dih> lol 11:39:52 <Gonozal_VIII> i could post a link... but no offtopic youtube links allowed 11:40:55 <dih> i was just going to say - pm me :-D 11:41:48 <Gonozal_VIII> don't look directly at the potato^^ 11:44:31 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:44:47 <yorick> hello 11:45:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 11:45:29 *** globester [~woot@cc55302-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has joined #openttd 11:51:49 <dih> Gonozal_VIII: does no offtopic youtube urls, mean offtopic to the channels topic, or offtopic to the current chat topic? 11:51:52 <dih> :-P 11:52:11 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 11:52:45 <Gonozal_VIII> let's all talk about xyz now 11:52:47 <Prof_Frink> dih: If the current chat topic is offtopic youtube urls 11:53:30 <Prof_Frink> Then posting an offtopic youtube url would be ontopic, so would be off the topic of offtopic urls and *brain asplode* 11:53:58 <dih> :-P 11:54:00 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 11:54:08 <Gonozal_VIII> very fragile brain 11:54:23 <Gonozal_VIII> should have used it more often 11:54:28 <dih> :-P 11:54:32 <dih> now it's too late 11:54:43 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: I did. Fatigue failure. 11:57:50 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-175.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 11:59:31 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 11:59:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:04:31 *** reactor-- [~maor@bzq-79-176-128-64.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 12:04:57 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [Leaving] 12:08:05 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-128-64.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:22:58 <yorick> still the new roads from TTRS don't apply automatically 12:23:06 <yorick> in 1970 12:23:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:23:23 <yorick> I thought that one would be fixed by now 12:28:32 <peter1138> you have to reload the grf 12:28:36 <peter1138> that's how it's designed 12:28:58 <yorick> I know 12:29:13 <yorick> but it's website says it's a bug in TTDP 12:29:24 <peter1138> no it doesn't, and it's not 12:30:25 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:30:47 <yorick> "There is a small problem with the roads because of a limitation of TTDPatch: the roads can't change automatically in 1970." 12:31:11 <yorick> would it be a big problem to remove that limitation from openttd? 12:31:26 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:06 <peter1138> limitation != bug 12:32:26 <yorick> I know 12:32:36 <yorick> but that's not my question ;) 12:32:43 <peter1138> and yes, it's a fairly big thing to change, and it would require changing the grf too 12:32:47 <peter1138> but... tesco :o 12:33:10 <yorick> :( 12:38:04 <Korenn> tesco? 12:38:57 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 12:39:41 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 12:41:20 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 12:41:20 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:45:18 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 12:45:19 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge`] by ChanServ 12:45:29 <yorick> 'lo 12:45:35 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:45:39 <orudge`> Hello 12:46:21 *** dih is now known as anhedral 12:46:35 *** anhedral is now known as dih 12:46:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 12:47:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 12:56:16 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:59 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@149-011-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:00:19 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 13:02:43 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:04:03 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 13:04:16 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 13:04:22 <yorick> why cant I edit the freight multiplier during multiplayer? 13:04:37 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:07:02 <SmatZ> yorick: it was causing desyncs, then it was fixed 13:07:18 <Maedhros> because it affects train speeds, so it has to be the same for everyone 13:07:31 <SmatZ> but then some options were disabled for multiplayer because they affect some newgrf calls 13:07:36 <SmatZ> calls at startup 13:07:45 <SmatZ> so it would cause desyncs anyway 13:08:17 <SmatZ> (grf could load different setting for players who connect after the option change) 13:08:50 <yorick> some crazy one set it to 200 13:08:59 <yorick> and I only have rcon 13:09:48 <Eddi|zuHause2> the typical solution is load in single player, change setting, restart server with the new savegame 13:10:04 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:10:08 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 13:10:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:10:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:11:08 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:11:11 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:11:24 <yorick> Eddi: as I said, I only have rcon access, no disk 13:15:32 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 13:19:57 <dih> you have rcon to a server? ^^ 13:20:24 <yorick> erm...yes =-) 13:20:34 <dih> which server? 13:20:36 <peter1138> 200? heheh 13:20:42 <dih> :-D 13:20:55 <yorick> why? 13:20:57 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:02 <dih> curiousity 13:21:12 <yorick> a private server 13:21:15 <dih> peter1138: sounds like 9 locs and 1 coal waggon :_D 13:21:20 <peter1138> aww shit, i forgot to pause when i went out... 13:21:39 <peter1138> 200*40 = 8000t... so maybe not that much ;p 13:22:09 <dih> ok 13:22:27 <dih> 7 locs for 3 waggons of coal :-P 13:22:36 <dih> depending on trainset and year :-P 13:23:04 <Gonozal_VIII> serbian railset year 1875... 150 hp loco ;-) 13:23:06 <yorick> UKRS, 1970 13:23:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> E 94 is designed to haul 2000t 13:23:52 <Eddi|zuHause2> although the physics of openttd is a bit off 13:24:49 <dih> just a wee bit 13:25:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> well, i drag 4000t just fine 13:25:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> even along slopes 13:25:51 <yorick> can tilting actually be seen? 13:26:08 <Eddi|zuHause2> i kinda doubt it 13:26:31 <Eddi|zuHause2> tilting is supposed to give you speed bonus in narrow curves 13:26:46 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:26:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:27:22 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:27:23 <dih> perhaps if you tilt your head while the train goes round the curve 13:27:25 <Eddi|zuHause2> and it's only a few degrees 13:27:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> it's not like it's lying sideways on the track ;) 13:27:44 <dih> or tip you screen slightly to one side or the other 13:30:55 <peter1138> yorick, it can if a grf makes it seen 13:30:59 <peter1138> there was at least one 13:31:03 <peter1138> it looked silly, heh 13:31:14 <dih> ^^ 13:31:18 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N804P015.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:31:42 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-120-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:34:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:34:46 <yorick> [14:30] <@peter1138> there was at least one <--which one? 13:38:45 <peter1138> can't remember 13:39:07 <yorick> could a cheat be included to disable industries ... of an estimated ...? 13:39:51 <yorick> :( ^^ 13:39:57 * yorick is asking too much questions 13:46:27 <yorick> OMG 13:46:45 <yorick> Victor Blomqvist is posting the closed bug report again! 13:47:22 <glx> yes this time with the attachments ;) 13:48:01 <yorick> if one says its fixed, it is probably fixed 13:53:35 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest662 13:53:35 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host63-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 13:54:15 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-164.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 13:57:05 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 13:57:10 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@110-016-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 13:57:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 13:59:27 *** Guest662 [~wolf01@host244-238-dynamic.14-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:09:44 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-178-144.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:10:58 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 14:12:10 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm102.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:13:10 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:13:43 *** Frostregen [~sucks@dslb-084-058-120-085.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:13:53 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 14:18:47 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 14:20:09 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:20:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:23:42 *** ThePizzaKing [~jeff@c220-239-221-34.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: ThePizzaKing] 14:31:56 *** Alberth [~hat@a82-95-164-127.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 14:35:07 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@110-016-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 14:37:36 *** Lego- [~Miranda@84.204.166.50] has joined #openttd 14:39:22 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:25 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 14:42:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:43:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:45:13 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 14:59:57 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-177-8.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 15:01:23 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:04:02 *** reactor-- [~maor@bzq-79-176-128-64.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:06:39 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:06:42 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-176-177-8.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:06:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:08:10 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1C20B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:09:34 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-182-120-6.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #openttd 15:13:59 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm102.epsilon124.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 15:14:36 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 15:16:27 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has joined #openttd 15:17:20 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 15:18:53 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5DE05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 15:19:33 *** DJNekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:20:54 *** Forked_ [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 15:22:40 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:22:40 *** Forked_ is now known as Forked 15:29:35 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:29:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:31:33 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 15:31:36 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 15:32:01 <Bjarni> whois dih 15:32:09 <Bjarni> oops 15:32:12 <Bjarni> forgot / :P 15:33:05 <yorick> you know who dih is, don't you? 15:33:11 <Bjarni> I do 15:33:18 <yorick> ;) 15:33:35 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:33:35 <Bjarni> that's why I want to stalk him 15:33:47 <Bjarni> learning as much as possible 15:33:52 <yorick> :O 15:34:06 <Bjarni> getting as many embarrassing pictures as possible 15:34:32 <Bjarni> how else would I be able to control him without anybody asking questions? 15:35:43 <Bjarni> yorick: are you any good at coding? 15:35:53 <yorick> no 15:35:56 <yorick> why? 15:36:04 <Bjarni> then there is no point in stalking you too 15:36:20 <yorick> why do you want to stalk him? 15:36:28 *** TinoM| [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 15:36:35 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:37:00 <Bjarni> to get incriminating info that I can use to blackmail him into working for me 15:37:21 <yorick> I think you just highlighted him... 15:37:29 <Bjarni> why else would people stalk people? 15:38:02 <Bjarni> that's because I have enough to make him work so he is aware of what goes on 15:38:08 <Bjarni> he just can't do shit about it 15:40:04 <yorick> you know he's #openttdcoop, wwottdgd, and fairplay admin? 15:40:25 <Bjarni> yes 15:40:30 <Bjarni> which makes him an even better target 15:40:36 <Bjarni> he got a reputation to protect 15:40:37 <yorick> you're crazy 15:41:04 <Bjarni> now that's a stupid statement 15:41:13 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54DBF.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:41:17 <Bjarni> either it's incorrect or it's really stupid to say :P 15:41:27 <yorick> I think its both 15:41:41 <Bjarni> me too 15:42:01 <Eddi|zuHause2> err... 15:42:30 <Bjarni> Eddi|zuHause2: you want to say something? 15:42:36 <Bjarni> you have my permission to go on ;) 15:42:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> i don't find the words to correctly express my feelings ;) 15:43:05 <Bjarni> ahh 15:43:13 <Bjarni> you can't write what you mean 15:43:17 <Bjarni> we have a word for that 15:43:20 <Bjarni> dyslexia 15:43:48 *** nfc [~nfc@88.195.110.105] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:44:50 <Prof_Frink> Or drunkenness 15:45:29 *** nfc [~nfc@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff6ec300-105.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:45:30 *** CIA-1 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #openttd 15:45:39 <Bjarni> I saw a guy with dyslexia on TV. He was a lorry driver and he made a wrong turn so he ended up in a parking lot and had to turn around. He then noticed the sign saying it was the national institute for people with dyslexia or something like that. Since he never heard about it and he had problems readings anything he decided to stop and go inside and talk to those guys. They then taught him to read 15:45:54 <Bjarni> and now he makes less wrong turns :) 15:46:20 <Bjarni> but... even though it was known that he had dyslexia he was never told about that place 15:46:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i'm not sure it really is dyslexia that you mean 15:46:41 <Bjarni> lucky him not being able to read the sign correctly and quick enough so he made that wrong turn :) 15:47:36 <Bjarni> @lookup dyslexia 15:47:41 <Bjarni> @define dyslexia 15:47:47 <yorick> @google dyslexia 15:47:47 <Bjarni> @whatis dyslexia 15:47:51 <Bjarni> hmm 15:47:55 <yorick> @help 15:47:55 <DorpsGek> yorick: help [<plugin>] [<command>] 15:47:59 <yorick> @list 15:47:59 <DorpsGek> yorick: Ctcp, Filter, Format, Math, Misc, OpenTTD, Scheduler, Seen, Topic, WT2, and XMLRPC 15:48:01 <Bjarni> forgot the keyword (or it's not functioning anymore) 15:48:15 <yorick> these are the pluging 15:48:22 <yorick> plugins 15:48:27 <Bjarni> I guess it's not there anymore then 15:48:33 <Prof_Frink> @wiki lysdexia 15:49:31 <Bjarni> define: dyslexia -> Difficulty with written language. Dyslexia affects reading, spelling, writing, memory and concentration. Sometimes called a "specific learning difficulty." Dyslexia can be developmental or acquired. 15:49:37 <Bjarni> according to google 15:49:53 <Bjarni> and it's the word I meant 15:50:44 <Bjarni> people with dyslexia has problems with all letters using sounds 15:50:46 * Prof_Frink has no problems with concentra- Look! A squirrel! 15:51:18 <Sacro> Prof_Frink: LETS GO RIDE BIKES 15:51:28 <Bjarni> interesting enough it appears not to be a problem with the Asian signs representing an item/event 15:51:40 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: hehe 15:52:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 15:52:50 <Bjarni> at one time I was in a computer room at uni and all of a sudden I said out somewhat loud "wtf. There are sheep walking around outside". The reaction for EVERYBODY was to look at me like I was crazy... Sheep at uni in the middle of a city 15:53:00 <Bjarni> we never learned who put the sheep there or why though 15:53:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 15:53:17 <Bjarni> but there was like 5 sheep walking around on the lawn outside 15:53:37 * Prof_Frink buys Bjarni a ticket to Wales 15:54:02 <Bjarni> eek 15:54:13 <Bjarni> what did I do to you in order to be treated that badly? 15:54:14 <Bjarni> :P 15:54:38 <Bjarni> I prefer not to go to a town where I can't pronounce the name of the town 15:54:57 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~dex@i59F7D329.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 15:55:41 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 15:55:57 <Bjarni> well.. when people realised that I was telling the truth (as usual) then one guy opened the window and started talking to them in sheepish 15:56:06 <Prof_Frink> What, Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch? 15:56:06 <Bjarni> and they had a lengthy conversation 15:56:12 <Prof_Frink> Baaa? 15:56:16 <Bjarni> yeah 15:56:27 <Prof_Frink> Baaaaa! 15:56:40 <Bjarni> I'm telling you 15:56:59 <Bjarni> if you didn't watch then you could have problems realising what voice that wasn't a real sheep o_O 15:57:39 <Bjarni> it also looked like the sheep stopped eating and started to look for the unfamiliar sheep that appeared to be hiding nearby 15:57:52 <Bjarni> it really looked like some sort of search party 15:57:55 <Prof_Frink> Baa. 15:58:26 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: that's the language you can use to speak to Alltaken 15:58:37 <Prof_Frink> Baaaaaaaaaaaa? 15:59:22 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@82-170-90-51-static.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: 'Trug naar huus] 15:59:37 <Bjarni> Prof_Frink: baaa ba baaaa baa Alltaken baaaaaa baa 16:00:03 <Eddi|zuHause2> this totally reminds me of monkey island ;) 16:00:11 <Prof_Frink> Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............... 16:00:29 *** Gussoh [~gussoh@user9.82-197-255.netatonce.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:01:20 <Eddi|zuHause2> in the SCUMM(tm)-bar there was a dog, and if you talked to him, he told a story like "Aruff... Wuff... Grrr... LeChuck" 16:03:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay, they finally started Doctor Who here... after 3 years... 16:04:15 <Bjarni> was? 16:04:20 <Bjarni> it's still there 16:04:24 <Bjarni> I checked last week 16:04:38 <Bjarni> (seriously I had the game running last week) 16:06:13 <Eddi|zuHause2> hm... i don't think i have a runnable version around... 16:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause2> i just remember i had it on 5ÂŒ" discs 16:06:44 <Bjarni> scummvm rules 16:07:10 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i have neither an idea where they are, nor if i can boot a computer that has such a drive attached 16:07:37 <Bjarni> heh 16:07:46 <Bjarni> I have such a computer 16:07:57 <Bjarni> but it's likely running the wrong OS 16:08:06 <Bjarni> but C64 rules 16:08:09 <Bjarni> it's still working :D 16:08:09 <Eddi|zuHause2> i _have_ such computers, but do they actually boot? 16:08:36 <Eddi|zuHause2> i might have installed Win95 on one of them 16:08:52 <Bjarni> the last time I used it (last year) it started up just fine and I could load disks and stuff 16:08:54 *** ReactoR- [~maor@bzq-79-182-120-6.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [] 16:09:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> but i wanted to grab some food, then watch doctor who 16:09:43 <Eddi|zuHause2> yay for timeshift ;) 16:10:39 <Bjarni> who? 16:12:09 <Sacro> how do i revert back to svn 16:12:11 <Sacro> svn revert fails :( 16:12:45 <Sacro> ah 16:12:48 <Sacro> svn -R revert . 16:13:59 <Zavior> Eddi|zuHause2, are there new eps? 16:14:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> "new" as in "from 2005, but not shown in germany before"? 16:15:36 *** Wolf01 is now known as Wolf01|AWAY 16:16:51 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:17:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:19:18 * Prof_Frink shows Eddi|zuHause2 thins wonderful thing called "The Intertubes" 16:19:47 <Eddi|zuHause2> you mean those that have signs with "speed limit 40kb/s"? 16:19:49 *** trom [~marcel.ma@30-139.stw.uni-duisburg.de] has joined #openttd 16:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> they are... well... occupied ;) 16:20:36 <Prof_Frink> You have failtubes 16:30:51 *** Jortuny-away [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 16:31:58 *** tubul [~icechat5@82-170-7-78.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...] 16:33:11 *** trom [~marcel.ma@30-139.stw.uni-duisburg.de] has quit [Quit: ÂI-n-v-i-s-i-o-n 2.0 Build 3515] 16:33:33 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:36:10 *** KritiK_ [~Maxim@78-106-137-102.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 16:40:00 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-177-164.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:06 *** KritiK_ is now known as KritiK 16:40:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 16:41:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 16:51:06 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-84-44-202-175.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:55:27 *** Jortuny-away is now known as Jortuny 16:57:50 *** Zr40 [~zr40@2001:960:786:0:21b:63ff:fe9e:ab24] has quit [Quit: Zr40] 17:04:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:05:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:06:02 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 17:28:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:29:01 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has quit [Server closed connection] 17:29:07 *** Sionide [sionide@cornflakes.imen.org.uk] has joined #openttd 17:29:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:29:54 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:30:34 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:30:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [] 17:32:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:33:26 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.90] has joined #openttd 17:34:36 <UnderBuilder> should be hard to code a 'growing map' function? 17:34:39 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [] 17:35:04 *** Lego- [~Miranda@84.204.166.50] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:35:51 <Wolf01|AWAY> a what? 17:35:58 <dih> and when the map has grown - disconnect all clients and reconnect, so they can download the new map ^^ 17:36:06 <ln-> you mean like invading other countries by force to expand your own? 17:37:02 <UnderBuilder> so if in 1950 you start a 64x64 map, then 15 years later it becomes 128x64, other 15 years and it grows to 128x128 and so on 17:37:29 <ln-> what if you lose one of your wars? 17:38:28 <UnderBuilder> openttd is not realistic 17:38:54 <UnderBuilder> so not wars are involucred 17:39:42 <Maedhros> an expanding map wouldn't be easy to code 17:40:00 <Maedhros> generating a huge map to start with but hiding bits and slowly revealing them might be easier 17:40:11 <ln-> i was about to suggest that approach 17:40:39 <ln-> what do you (all) think about introducing the concept of countries and borders? 17:41:07 *** Leviath [~thomas@vdburgt.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 17:41:57 <UnderBuilder> other hard suggestion I did was the ability to see the other servers where the void is shown actually 17:42:39 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:42:42 <SmatZ> you can run several instances of OpenTTD 17:43:07 <SmatZ> and how it would work internally 17:43:27 <SmatZ> wouldn't be nothing else than running several OpenTTD processes in one window 17:43:31 <ln-> another related suggestion (considered interesting my Celestar): allowing planes to travel beyond the map borders, i.e. international flights to some destinations that are not visible. 17:43:43 <ln-> and why not trains and ferries, too. 17:43:54 *** Nitehawk [~nitehawk@c-98-200-106-108.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:44:15 <SmatZ> making work to wrap around map borders could be done I think 17:44:23 <SmatZ> *world 17:44:54 <UnderBuilder> yes... freeciv does so 17:45:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46:37 <UnderBuilder> other feature I requested was an international port for trading cargos between server 17:46:39 <UnderBuilder> servers 17:47:47 <ln-> correction to my earlier sentence: "my" -> "by" 17:48:03 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:14 *** SirkoZ [~Voodoo_Ma@195.250.222.84] has joined #openttd 17:52:31 *** Lego- [~Miranda@84.204.102.178] has joined #openttd 17:52:53 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:53:37 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:54:20 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has joined #openttd 17:55:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:55:21 <ln-> Bjarni: what do you say? 17:58:14 <De_Ghost> what does :: mean in c++? 17:58:53 <Bjarni> De_Ghost: that only people understanding C++ can read it :P 17:59:12 * Bjarni reads back to figure out what people are talking about 17:59:28 <blathijs> De_Ghost: It's used to seperate a class name from a static method name 17:59:41 <blathijs> De_Ghost: Or seperate a namespace name from whatever is after it 18:00:01 <blathijs> Ie, SomeClass::foo() means call the static method foo in the class SomeClass 18:00:17 <blathijs> Also, std::cin means use the variable "cin" in the namespace "std" 18:00:40 <blathijs> There might be more uses, can't think of anything else anyway 18:00:42 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:00:56 <Bjarni> ln-: so you are asking me what I mean about countries, borders, wars and connected maps, right? 18:01:09 <De_Ghost> networkbuf::~networkbuf() { 18:01:15 <De_Ghost> int networkbuf::underflow() { 18:01:26 <ln-> Bjarni: yes, except you can leave out wars and inter-server maps. 18:01:29 <Bjarni> we have two many war games already so we will not include it in our own unrealistic game. We already decided that ages ago 18:02:33 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 18:02:36 <Bjarni> <De_Ghost> networkbuf::~networkbuf() { <-- this is the deconstructor. It's called when an instance is deallocated 18:02:43 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:53 *** Forked [~kjetil@bruker.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 18:03:01 <Bjarni> if you leave out the ~ then it's called when it's allocated 18:03:26 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has joined #openttd 18:03:33 <Bjarni> imagine when you allocate you use malloc() to gain extra space for some reason (don't ask me why). You will then free it when you free the instance 18:03:53 <Bjarni> and you can use those functions to do it and ensuring that it's always done 18:04:06 <De_Ghost> k 18:04:08 <De_Ghost> thx 18:04:32 <blathijs> De_Ghost: Ah, when used in method definitions, it simply denotes what class the defined method is part of 18:04:52 <Bjarni> underflow() is "just" a member function name inside networkbuf 18:05:00 <blathijs> ie, int networkbuf::underflow() { is the start of the definition of the undeflow method in networkbuf 18:05:32 <blathijs> De_Ghost: Pretty standardd C++ stuff, you should find a tutorial on OO programming in C++ if you want to learn more 18:05:36 <ln-> Bjarni: but countries? 18:07:20 *** mikl [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:08:14 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has joined #openttd 18:08:32 <Bjarni> countries could be an interesting optional feature 18:08:42 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has quit [] 18:08:43 <globester> hrm, the city stations grf won't work anymore :/ 18:08:47 <Bjarni> but somebody should define how they should work before I can say yes or no 18:09:18 <Bjarni> right now I'm not sure how it should affect gameplay in a way there it matters without breaking gameplay 18:09:35 <globester> it worked before, removed all the other grf's, redownloaded, nothing :/ 18:13:44 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:13:44 *** Lafie [~Lafie@a91-152-219-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:14:34 *** Lafie [~Lafie@a91-152-219-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:14:46 *** Lafie [~Lafie@a91-152-219-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 18:15:07 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:10 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has joined #openttd 18:18:05 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Quit: :-x] 18:20:34 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21:10 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has joined #openttd 18:23:48 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@90.209.238.39] has joined #openttd 18:47:04 *** Sacro` [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 18:47:08 *** Lafie [~Lafie@a91-152-219-70.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [] 18:47:58 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:52 * dih misses THE BRAIN 18:53:42 <valhalla1w> the brain suddenly decided to get a life 18:53:45 *** valhalla1w is now known as valhallasw 18:55:29 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-177-158.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 18:55:36 <dih> not really 19:07:12 *** aleex [alex@muh.cc] has joined #openttd 19:07:17 <aleex> hey ;) 19:07:24 <dih> hay 19:07:37 <aleex> any idea, where i can get openttd (0.6 beta3) for linux? 19:08:05 <aleex> as .deb file would be great - no sourcecode ... 19:11:14 <blathijs> aleex: I still need to build the debs 19:11:19 <blathijs> aleex: Good that you remind me :-) 19:11:35 <aleex> blathijs, perfekt ;) 19:11:40 <blathijs> aleex: If you hang on for half an hour or so, I'll have a deb for you :-) 19:11:49 <aleex> ok, no problem ;) 19:12:02 <aleex> is that deb on the website then? 19:12:42 <blathijs> It will show up there eventually, but Sourceforge is rather slow 19:13:03 <blathijs> I can put it up somewhere else temporarliy if you stick around here 19:13:15 <aleex> no problem 19:13:26 <aleex> the stuff with the bridges is really really nice ;) 19:13:32 <aleex> i've waited so long for that 19:15:05 <blathijs> :-) 19:15:18 *** Hextrasher [~not@212-236-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 19:16:24 <aleex> only the diagonal tunnels/brigdes are missing 19:16:38 <aleex> but i think that will be very hard to do with the engine 19:17:09 <blathijs> Yeah, it's not really suited to do that in a pretty way 19:20:38 <aleex> ;( 19:24:10 *** Hextrasher [~not@212-236-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:12 <Wilberforce> ooo.. somebody mention a .deb version of 0.6? 19:27:14 <Wilberforce> excellent... 19:32:54 <dih> my _bunny_ went over the ocean 19:33:02 <dih> my _bunny_ went over the sea 19:35:44 <SirkoZ> but drowned on the way over... 19:39:16 <dih> My bonnie lies over the ocean 19:39:16 <dih> My bonnie lies over the sea 19:39:16 <dih> My bonnie lies over the ocean 19:39:16 <dih> Oh bring back my bonnie to me 19:39:16 <dih> Bring back, bring back 19:39:18 <dih> Bring back my Bonnie to me, to me 19:39:20 <dih> Bring back, bring back 19:39:22 <dih> Bring back my Bonnie to me 19:40:01 *** Sacro` is now known as Sacro 19:44:08 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 19:44:57 *** Sacro [~Sacro@adsl-87-102-119-5.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #openttd 19:44:58 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B77572.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 19:49:29 *** svippery [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 19:49:29 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:59:00 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:59:56 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 20:00:03 <mcbane> hmm 20:00:19 <mcbane> the lines might be enhanced at your last feat but not the window. 20:00:21 *** thomas001 [~thomas@p54B74F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7712B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:02:04 <thomas001> hi,at a big station like near a factory where traing deliver and and receive goods what is a good way to prevent trains what only wait for cargo jam the station (all plattforms)? building seperate stations? 20:02:51 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7712B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:11 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7712B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:03:51 <thomas001> (sorry for bad english,it has been a long day ;-) ) 20:04:37 *** Wolf01|AWAY [~wolf01@host63-239-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:01 <Eddi|zuHause> thomas001: you can build waypoints at the entrance 20:05:11 <Eddi|zuHause> so from one waypoint, not all platforms can be reached 20:05:23 <aleex> blathijs, 0:45h is over ;) 20:05:32 <blathijs> oh, yes 20:05:33 <aleex> no just kidding ... ;) 20:05:33 <thomas001> nice idea 20:05:35 <thomas001> thx 20:05:43 * blathijs is a multitasking a bit :-) 20:05:52 <blathijs> I guess debootstrap should be done by now 20:07:59 <thomas001> shit some stupid computer opponent built right next to my station..i should have disabled those 20:08:17 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2024.%20Jan%201951.png <- like this, thomas001 20:09:20 <thomas001> but you also have 2 stations? why the way point? 20:09:48 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 20:10:04 <Eddi|zuHause> do not pay attention to the passenger station ;) 20:10:11 <Eddi|zuHause> the cargo station with the 3 tracks 20:10:25 <Eddi|zuHause> steel and ore trains come from the top 20:10:54 <thomas001> ah 20:10:57 <Eddi|zuHause> ore trains take the outermost track to the first waypoint (where one train is waiting right now) 20:11:09 <Eddi|zuHause> steel trains take the inner waypoint next to it 20:11:19 <Eddi|zuHause> the steel trains cannot reach the outermost platform 20:11:29 <Eddi|zuHause> only the two inner ones 20:11:35 <Eddi|zuHause> the ore trains can reach all platforms 20:12:25 <thomas001> i'll try to fit this concept into the limited space,thx eddi 20:12:38 <Eddi|zuHause> space is always limited 20:12:41 <Eddi|zuHause> ;) 20:12:46 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 20:12:54 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... weird... some update killed my sound... 20:13:08 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 20:17:06 <ln-> could be a flu 20:25:40 <Eddi|zuHause> www.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Ravenswald%20Transport,%2029.%20Dez%201955.png <- what can also work is different length platforms and electric/non-electric separation 20:26:53 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B7712B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:21 <thomas001> http://stinfwww.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mam04daq/D%fcsselberg%20Transport,%2010.%20Aug%201966.png <-- any suggestions for better handling of depots after the station? i thought perhaps adding an additional buffer of one train length before the depots,than trains can stll go wrong but won't block the station exit? 20:30:25 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p54B768BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:50 <Eddi|zuHause> ahh... better ;) 20:31:43 <thomas001> Eddi|zuHause, http://stinfwww.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mam04daq/D%fcsselberg%20Transport,%2010.%20Aug%201966.png any suggestions for after station depot handling? ;) 20:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't do depots ;) 20:32:43 <thomas001> you simplifiy reality to fit your needs? ;-) 20:33:21 <Eddi|zuHause> always ;) 20:33:23 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: "leaving"] 20:33:48 <Eddi|zuHause> either simplify or complicate 20:34:03 <Eddi|zuHause> but breakdowns are just unrealistic 20:34:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i mainly do aestetics 20:34:40 <Eddi|zuHause> and then efficiency 20:34:44 <thomas001> hmm,what about multiplayer is more played with or without breakdowns? 20:35:02 <Eddi|zuHause> depots are violating both 20:35:46 <hylje> breakdowns don't really work the way they do in ttd 20:36:18 <Eddi|zuHause> depots don't either 20:36:20 <thomas001> what's different? 20:36:27 <hylje> a well kept vehicle won't likely ever break down, though it always could. 20:36:47 <Eddi|zuHause> thomas001: trains don't usually stop when something breaks 20:36:57 <Sacro> see brake failure... 20:37:11 <Eddi|zuHause> e.g. tilting system in ICE rather often break down, but it doesn't stop the train 20:37:28 <Eddi|zuHause> it just slows them down 20:37:33 <thomas001> hylje, so in ttd breakdowns are less? 20:37:38 <thomas001> +frequent 20:38:02 <hylje> much more frequent. most vehicles break down completely at least once a year 20:38:05 <hylje> and fixing it takes a few weeks 20:38:57 <hylje> Eddi|zuHause: also isn't there generally redundant systems even inside a single loco? 20:39:01 <thomas001> i whouldnÂŽt have considerd changing that such a difficult task,but interesting to know 20:39:10 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 20:40:01 <Eddi|zuHause> hylje: if you consider driving engines, most modern engines have a driving motor for each axle 20:40:35 <hylje> so if there's, say, mechanical failure, it can be geared out and compensated? 20:40:45 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 20:41:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know the engines in that detail 20:41:29 <thomas001> trams tend to break down in reality ;) 20:42:29 <Eddi|zuHause> trams around here usually are used in double-traction 20:43:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i have seen "broken down" trams, but they could still drive 20:43:19 <SirkoZ> oh boohoo 20:43:23 <SirkoZ> rejoice I say! 20:43:35 <Sacro> argh tis SirkoZ 20:43:37 <thomas001> Eddi|zuHause, hmm,true 20:43:41 <SirkoZ> aye! 20:44:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:32 *** llugo [~lugo@p4FD5CDA4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:46:34 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this suse updater is annoying, i can't blacklist an update... 20:47:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:53:23 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5DE05.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:55:27 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11988 /trunk/src/ (build_vehicle_gui.cpp widget.cpp window_gui.h): -Codechange: Add a generic way of changing a widget's size and adjust the widgets around it to suit. 21:01:48 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:02:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11989 /trunk/src/autoreplace_gui.cpp: -Fix: Resize autoreplace window to fit purchase information text if it is too large. 21:03:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:19:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i577B567D.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:25:25 <UnderBuilder> idea for total 'subway' stations: one type of them over the ones should be possible to build over 21:25:42 <UnderBuilder> kinda prone to glitches but functional 21:26:16 <peter1138> what on earth 21:28:50 <SmatZ> UnderBuilder builds under :) 21:29:19 <Eddi|zuHause> not on earth, under earth ;) 21:30:21 <Eddi|zuHause> a propos subway, what happened to the flexible tunnels, SmatZ? 21:32:01 <SmatZ> Eddi|zuHause: no time to work on it :( 21:32:33 <SmatZ> you may have a look at it at http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/ 21:32:44 <SmatZ> when it gets up again... 21:35:44 <peter1138> 404 :D 21:37:02 <SmatZ> yeah it is broken somehow 21:37:13 <Sacro> prod orudge 21:37:26 <glx> SmatZ: ask TrueBrain 21:37:39 <glx> ~glx works 21:37:45 <SmatZ> really? 21:37:48 <SmatZ> nor ~belugas 21:37:50 <SmatZ> ~skidd13 21:38:05 <SmatZ> hmm yeah 21:38:25 <glx> oh you don't have index.html nor index.php 21:38:34 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 21:38:38 <SmatZ> it was never needed 21:38:48 <SmatZ> well, times change 21:39:09 <glx> server changed, needs config change ;) 21:39:09 <orudge`> Sacro: prod TrueBrain 21:39:21 <Sacro> hmmm :( 21:44:28 <SmatZ> for i in `ls` ; do echo \<A href=\"${i}\"\> ${i} \<\/A\>\<BR\> >> index.html ; done 21:44:32 <SmatZ> did the job :) 21:44:55 <SmatZ> mmm except those spaces in names 21:45:23 <ln-> hey, clever people. how do i grep lines containing 8-bit characters? 21:46:38 * SmatZ doesn't know 21:46:42 * Sacro hands SmatZ an award for most pointless use of ls 21:46:46 <UnderBuilder> should be easy to code the build over stations feature (not only bridges, also road/rail sections, houses, other stations, etc) 21:46:56 <SmatZ> Sacro: true :D 21:47:32 <Sacro> SmatZ: for i in * 21:47:44 <Sacro> and change ${i} to "${i}" 21:49:18 <SmatZ> Sacro: yeah 21:50:02 <murray> SmatZ: that's fugly html, you should be ashamed 21:50:10 <De_Ghost> yea i want like 1000000 house on the same square in city 21:50:26 <Eddi|zuHause> <ln-> hey, clever people. how do i grep lines containing 8-bit characters? <- set locale to something non-utf-8? 21:50:39 <SmatZ> http://devs.openttd.org/~smatz/ works 21:50:48 <SmatZ> murray: yeah, and I am proud of it :-P 21:51:37 * murray slaps SmatZ with his mom 21:52:18 <SmatZ> poor your mom :-( 21:52:54 <hylje> :-) 21:53:13 <murray> she says she likes it :) 21:53:53 <murray> but it's so easy to fix 21:53:56 <murray> make all chars lowercase 21:54:03 <murray> and change <br> to <br /> 21:54:10 <murray> and it's perfect xml and xhtml 21:57:25 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.104.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:16 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@xdsl-81-173-177-158.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:00:50 <Sacro> i fancy removing the double slip by default on X crossings 22:01:57 <Sacro> if only i can get a good proof of concept... 22:02:05 <Sacro> hmm :| 22:03:22 <Sacro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2001-07-19.0004.DKW-Baeseler.jpg <- does that look like a double slip to you? 22:03:40 <Prof_Frink> Looks like an URL to me 22:03:41 <Sacro> oh... it is 22:06:59 *** globester [~woot@cc55302-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Oh the era of internet on phones and drunken people: ShaneyŠ im in a field on IRC. that the Fuck | PimpehŠ The following pages contain hardcore gay sex. I] 22:08:47 <peter1138> hee, 3d 22:10:59 <SmatZ> :) 22:11:33 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:56 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:15:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11990 /trunk/src/ (lang/english.txt station_gui.cpp station_gui.h): 22:15:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: -Codechange: Show all cargo sources (en-route from) in the station view 22:15:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: cargo waiting list instead of just one. The station view window is now 22:15:52 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: resizable to cope with the extra information. 22:24:29 *** thomas001 [~thomas@p54B74F80.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:31:21 <hylje> any chance of a more condensed view of cargoes? 22:31:29 <hylje> on stations 22:32:06 <hylje> what i'd dream about is a list that can track station ratings of a certain cargo 22:32:35 <peter1138> condensed how? 22:33:37 <hylje> well what i find myself doing is optimizing a bunch of stations' ratings 22:33:48 <peter1138> ah 22:33:58 <peter1138> you mean the huge blank space that's designed for up to 12 cargo ratings? 22:34:10 <hylje> yes 22:34:19 <peter1138> then yes, i have some plans 22:34:25 <hylje> station list is good 22:34:28 <hylje> but it lists all stations 22:34:47 <hylje> not just the ones im interestd in 22:34:48 <Bjarni> so you are basically asking for a filter in that list? 22:35:34 <hylje> i believe so 22:35:41 <peter1138> well, i'm not doing that, heh 22:36:16 <hylje> what are you potentially doing, then? 22:39:59 <dih> night ladies 22:41:46 *** dih [~dih@members.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [Leaving] 22:41:51 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r11991 /trunk/src/lang/ (39 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup: Remove strings removed in r11990 22:43:10 <Sacro> peter1138: how can you remove removed strings D: 22:43:21 <Born_Acorn> Simple 22:43:22 <Born_Acorn> Remove them again. 22:43:27 <Born_Acorn> duh/ 22:43:52 <peter1138> shut up 22:44:02 <peter1138> they were only removed from english, heh 22:48:29 <Sacro> hmmm, if atscap is trying to revoke their own gpl licence 22:48:37 <Sacro> are they allowed to stop distributing source 22:49:20 <hylje> the owner of the source is free to relicence the source 22:49:57 <Sacro> If you are currently distributing the atscap or pchdtvr 22:49:57 <Sacro> packages, or any part thereof, it is in your best interest 22:49:57 <Sacro> to destroy all copies in your possession and notify all 22:49:57 <Sacro> recipients of either the atscap or pchdtvr packages, or any 22:49:58 <Sacro> part thereof, that the licensing under the GPL for both 22:49:59 <Sacro> packages has been revoked by the author. 22:50:57 <SirkoZ> 90nite 22:50:59 *** SirkoZ [~Voodoo_Ma@195.250.222.84] has left #openttd [] 22:51:08 <Sacro> 91night 22:51:41 <hylje> i believe the sources already "out" cannot be de-licenced 22:51:50 <hylje> but i might as well be wrong 22:53:38 <Sacro> heh 22:53:44 <Sacro> well this is the conundrem 23:00:40 *** Pochen [~bjorn@c-041c70d5.05-52-6b736411.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #openttd 23:00:44 <Pochen> Hi! 23:01:02 <Pochen> I have installed OpenTTD in linux, but how do i play now? 23:01:06 <Pochen> How do i start the game+ 23:03:30 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 23:03:47 <Sacro> Pochen: openttd 23:04:15 <Sacro> Question - why do we have JPEG available? tis crap for taking screenshots 23:04:26 <Sacro> what use does anything other than (A)PNG serve? 23:05:30 <hylje> Pochen: menu item OR run "openttd" in console 23:06:43 <TinoDidriksen> JPEG screenshots of max-sized worlds should be considerably smaller than PNG. 23:10:53 *** james [~jiphex@resnet20.nat.lancs.ac.uk] has joined #openttd 23:11:27 *** james is now known as Guest701 23:18:14 <SpComb> and considerably more horrible-looking 23:25:04 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N892P022.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 23:32:55 <Wolf01> 'night 23:33:01 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host185-223-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:42:56 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: good night] 23:44:30 *** Guest701 [~jiphex@resnet20.nat.lancs.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:58:33 *** mikl_ [~mikl@0x57372ee2.mrbnqu1.broadband.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Connection reset by Peer Gynt] 23:58:58 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@212.24.150.226] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:59:35 *** Zoeff [Zoeff@a62-251-65-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd