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00:01:59 <ln-> how big a budget does everyone have for spontaneous travelling? 00:02:36 <Gonozal_VIII> ticket to berlin would cost 29 euro 00:02:37 <Eddi|zuHause2> there's a non-national holiday on that day 00:02:55 <Gonozal_VIII> but i won't come :P 00:03:15 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-98-65-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 00:03:32 <Eddi|zuHause2> i can't promise anything either 00:03:43 <ln-> me neither 00:04:04 <Gonozal_VIII> O_o 00:04:13 <Gonozal_VIII> you suggested it^^ 00:04:22 <Eddi|zuHause2> i what? 00:04:32 <Gonozal_VIII> ln 00:04:35 <ln-> but the truth is, i haven't been to Berlin yet, and I intend to visit it sooner or later. 00:04:55 <Eddi|zuHause2> ah, that line didn't really stick out ;) 00:05:05 <Eddi|zuHause2> must be the short nick ;) 00:07:18 <ln-> how long does it take to get from Gdansk to some e.g. Berlin by train? 00:08:11 <Gonozal_VIII> glowny? 00:09:02 <Gonozal_VIII> about 8h 00:09:09 <Chrill> GNIGHTZ 00:10:21 <ln-> 8h is fscking much 00:10:31 <Gonozal_VIII> 7:50 :-) 00:11:10 *** Chrill [~chrischri@c80-216-64-31.bredband.comhem.se] has quit [Quit: I tried setting my password to penis.. It said my password was not long enough] 00:11:42 <Gonozal_VIII> it's 10h from here 00:12:15 <Gonozal_VIII> 9:51 00:13:36 <ln-> there will be a budget flight connection between Gdansk and Turku later this spring. 00:15:42 <Gonozal_VIII> tickets to large parts of europe are 29 euro here 00:16:08 <Gonozal_VIII> limited numbers... 00:18:04 <Gonozal_VIII> well... i guess to germany it would be more expensive, i think they charge extra for the ice trains 00:19:42 *** Vikthor [~Vikthor@snat1.spoje.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:19:54 <ln-> ICE is cooler than other trains, too. 00:19:57 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:20:26 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:20:37 <Gonozal_VIII> mucht should really shut off what ever kind of scipt is causing his flooding all the time... 00:22:15 <Gonozal_VIII> well ice is cool... but other trains have comfortable seats and a power outlet to plug the laptop in too and don't charge extra^^ 00:24:40 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-211-24.broadband.corbina.ru] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:25:20 *** asdfjshgf [~Gonozal_V@N731P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 00:25:20 *** Gonozal_VIII is now known as Guest825 00:25:20 *** Guest825 is now known as Guest826 00:25:21 *** asdfjshgf is now known as Gonozal_VIII 00:30:50 *** Guest826 [~Gonozal_V@N833P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:17 <ln-> bandwidth trouble again? :) 00:33:41 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm no... strange 00:34:26 <Gonozal_VIII> his light on the router is not blinking like it usually does when he's downloading a lot 00:44:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 00:44:46 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 00:52:57 *** Zothar [~Zothar@ppp-70-242-202-109.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 00:55:08 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 00:58:45 <ln-> did you know there are areas where you can enter Russia without a visa or even passport? 00:58:54 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 01:00:21 <Gonozal_VIII> yes, there's lots of tundra and coastline and mountains and stuff like that 01:07:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:07:46 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:11:16 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has quit [] 01:15:26 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.244] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:53 *** Burgundavia [~corey@S010600502c03205f.gv.shawcable.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 01:22:06 <ln-> err, i didn't mean "you can unless someone notices you and kicks your ass", but "you can legally" 01:22:46 <Gonozal_VIII> really? why? 01:24:21 <ln-> http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/Baltics/images/Varska-Saatse.jpg 01:25:13 <Gonozal_VIII> and i'm supposed to know that region?^^ 01:25:15 <ln-> that LutepÀÀ village in south-east Estonia can only be entered by using those roads that cross the border. 01:25:37 <Gonozal_VIII> ah i see 01:25:44 <Gonozal_VIII> we have something simmilar here 01:25:57 <ln-> i didn't know Austria has common border with Russia., 01:25:58 <Gonozal_VIII> a town that can only be reached through germany 01:26:12 <ln-> ah, ok. 01:26:29 <Bjarni> back 01:26:35 <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni! 01:26:41 <Bjarni> oops 01:26:48 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: i suppose that doesn't cause much trouble nowadays, with Schengen and all? 01:27:01 <Bjarni> I see I got highlighted 01:27:06 <Bjarni> together with DorpsGek :) 01:27:31 <Gonozal_VIII> they have some different laws and taxes there or something like that, that's why i heard about it 01:29:19 <ln-> also LlÃvia is interesting; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/Localitzaci%C3%B3_de_Ll%C3%ADvia.png 01:29:46 <ln-> that map isn't particularly good, btw. actually bad. 01:30:01 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:30:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't even know what country that is 01:30:14 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:30:47 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:31:23 <ln-> Gonozal_VIII: look at this instead: http://www.grupcostabravacentre.com/reservashoteles/ftp_rh/img_mapes/idp_132.gif 01:31:40 <ln-> that's not a good map either, but better. 01:32:01 <ln-> one spanish town that is completely surrounded by france. 01:32:16 <ln-> that white part is france, not sea. 01:32:18 <Gonozal_VIII> strange 01:33:03 <Gonozal_VIII> even the highway between that town and the next spanish one is french... 01:33:40 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess that complicates roadworks there 01:34:06 <Eddi|zuHause2> yeah, i know both these places ;) 01:34:19 <Eddi|zuHause2> the spanish town in france and the austrian village 01:35:57 *** Eddi|zuHause3 [~johekr@p54B77D38.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 01:38:52 <ln-> and none of this we can have in OTTD until it supports the concept of countries. 01:42:35 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p54B75EBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:50:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> i have my doubts if we ever support this kind of corner cases ;) 01:53:47 <ln-> how sad 01:54:25 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:54:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 01:55:00 <ln-> Bjarni: ban Mucht 01:55:07 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... all over the place i have these railway stubs, where i wanted to attach a new track 02:00:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> 1975 is way too late to introduce light signals 02:00:42 <Gonozal_VIII> yep 02:00:48 <Gonozal_VIII> i changed that to 45 02:00:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> 1950 is more like it 02:01:10 <De_Ghost> more like 1848 :) 02:01:22 <De_Ghost> semphore is so hard to look at 02:01:34 <Eddi|zuHause3> semaphores are great 02:01:46 <Gonozal_VIII> only in one of the directions 02:01:47 <Sacro> i <3 semaphore 02:01:49 <Eddi|zuHause3> but hardly any new ones got put up after the war 02:02:00 <Sacro> light signals are impossible to see from behind 02:02:13 <Gonozal_VIII> sacro, update advanced orders patch 02:02:19 <Gonozal_VIII> :-) 02:02:44 <Sacro> Gonozal_VIII: link? 02:02:52 <Eddi|zuHause3> haha ;) 02:03:20 <Gonozal_VIII> 100% 90% 100,00% 690 310 02:03:20 <Gonozal_VIII> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=12193 02:03:27 <Gonozal_VIII> huh? :S 02:03:32 <Gonozal_VIII> hehe 02:03:45 <Gonozal_VIII> those % are from the industry rating calculation thingy 02:04:26 <ln-> now, now, semaphores were only invented in 1974. 02:04:36 <ln-> by a dutchman. 02:06:04 <Gonozal_VIII> i've spent the whole afternoon trying to update that patch^^ 02:06:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> the two-way-signal-turnaround code is broken, it makes my train immediately turn around when it should wait for the train to pass by 02:06:43 <Eddi|zuHause3> i need to isolate that case somehow.. 02:07:11 <Sacro> oh 02:07:13 <Sacro> i has a bug 02:07:14 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:07:24 <Sacro> when you uninstall 0.6.0b3 it leaves the data files behind D: 02:08:18 <Eddi|zuHause3> uninstalling usually doesn't remove personal files 02:08:28 <Sacro> Eddi|zuHause3: it asks about saves and scenarios 02:10:29 <Gonozal_VIII> btw sacro that was more like a joke than an order ;-) i don't think that patch can be updated... 02:11:02 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:12:59 <Gonozal_VIII> but the features it offers would be really great to have again 02:15:38 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: You just lost the game] 02:17:17 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:17:49 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 02:18:32 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> 1975 is way too late to introduce light signals <-- Siemens introduced them like 70 years earlier 02:18:46 <Bjarni> I think I recall something about 1908 but I'm not sure 02:19:06 <Bjarni> anyway 02:19:10 <Bjarni> time to go back to sleep 02:19:15 <Eddi|zuHause3> Bjarni: i meant widespread use 02:19:29 <ln-> Bjarni: first a ban 02:19:34 <Bjarni> Denmark began widespread use in the 1950s 02:19:35 <ln-> or well 02:19:41 <Eddi|zuHause3> see 02:19:54 <ln-> Bjarni: do you still have semaphores in use? 02:20:10 <Bjarni> the last were removed 2 or 3 years ago 02:20:29 <Bjarni> ln-: ban? 02:20:31 <Eddi|zuHause3> minor railways are very reluctant to replace those 02:20:44 <ln-> Bjarni: Mucht has been excess flooding the whole night. 02:21:01 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*Mucht@*.openttdcoop.org] by Bjarni 02:21:10 <Bjarni> Mucht: you will be allowed back tomorrow ;) 02:21:14 <Gonozal_VIII> whole night? whole week 02:21:25 <Bjarni> or whenever you stop your leak 02:21:32 <Eddi|zuHause3> yeah, i also noticed it several days ago 02:21:53 <Bjarni> <Eddi|zuHause3> minor railways are very reluctant to replace those <-- actually the last railroad to use those were DSB (the state railroad) 02:22:14 <Bjarni> I can talk a lot about signals and stuff 02:22:23 <Bjarni> and can do so tomorrow if you ask me 02:22:27 <Bjarni> but not now 02:22:29 <Bjarni> goodnight 02:22:38 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:24:12 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:40:29 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Excess Flood] 02:53:21 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: bye] 03:33:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: belugas * r11997 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: -Fix(FS#1712, r11985): Remove the code temporary, until a better scheme is implemented. 03:34:06 *** Belugas_Gone [~jfranc@ip-210.45.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net] has quit [Quit: How about sleeping? Yeaaa..] 03:35:09 <Gonozal_VIII> O_o 03:35:28 <Gonozal_VIII> i can see the bugreports flying in 03:35:43 <Gonozal_VIII> industries stopped working! 03:59:47 *** ddddd [~ddddd@91.148.114.220] has joined #openttd 04:00:23 *** ddddd [~ddddd@91.148.114.220] has quit [] 04:38:01 *** mcbane [~Maui_key@p5498CB98.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 04:38:03 *** mmcbane [~Maui_key@p5498F2E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:57:29 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:01:36 *** gfldex_ [~dex@dslb-088-074-139-193.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 05:03:28 *** gfldex [~dex@dslb-088-074-165-016.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:07:33 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 05:20:19 *** shodan [user@xerxes.foocode.net] has quit [Quit: Client Exiting] 05:51:59 *** DorpsGek is now known as Guest847 05:52:05 *** DorpsGek [truelight@openttd.org] has joined #openttd 05:52:08 *** mode/#openttd [+o DorpsGek] by ChanServ 05:57:18 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:57:35 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:57:50 *** Guest847 [truelight@openttd.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:04:51 *** Andel [~andel@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:10:45 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:10:46 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:15:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:15:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:19:17 *** TinoM [~Tino@i59F54783.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 06:20:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:20:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:20:49 <murray> can't he decide? 06:25:04 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:25:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:28:37 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe 06:28:42 <DJ-Nekkid> murray: know any .nfo? 06:29:35 <DJ-Nekkid> -1 * 0 00 00 \b27 01 40 00 \w2007-01-01 02 \b05 03 \b20 04 \b255 05 00 06 07 07 \b25 08 01 09 \w130 0B \b950 12 FD 13 01 14 \b125 15 00 16 \b47 17 10 19 28 1B \w950 23 \b22 1C 00 1D 05 1F \b20 20 20 22 30 27 06 28 \w3 29 \w461 06:29:43 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N731P026.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:29:44 <DJ-Nekkid> correct afaik, but i keep getting this: 06:30:04 <DJ-Nekkid> .//!!Invalid escape sequence. 06:30:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:30:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:33:37 <murray> .nfo ? 06:33:45 <murray> sorry i'm not a developer 06:33:53 <DJ-Nekkid> ahh... nvm, i found the bug 06:33:56 <murray> i'm just here to annoy people 06:34:09 <murray> oki :) 06:34:15 <DJ-Nekkid> im no developer either, but i try to code a newgrf set 06:34:25 <DJ-Nekkid> bemerk: _try_ 06:34:34 <murray> ohh cool 06:34:42 <DJ-Nekkid> no wait, i didnt find it anyway 06:34:51 <murray> :/ 06:34:55 <murray> don't give up ^^ 06:35:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:35:05 <DJ-Nekkid> too late/early 06:35:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:35:07 <DaleStan> DJ-Nekkid: \b950 950 doesn 06:35:12 <DaleStan> 't fit in a byte. 06:35:29 <DJ-Nekkid> thand DaleStan! 06:35:46 <Phoenix_the_II> yea, unless you PC does ternary computing :P 06:36:01 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe... 06:36:08 <DJ-Nekkid> as i say, too late/early :) 06:36:10 <Phoenix_the_II> which frankly 06:36:16 <Phoenix_the_II> hasnt been invented yet 06:36:23 <Phoenix_the_II> *sigh* 06:36:37 <DJ-Nekkid> you wish huh? 06:36:40 <Phoenix_the_II> ofcourse 06:36:44 <Phoenix_the_II> i mean 06:36:53 <DJ-Nekkid> 33% more output? :) 06:36:55 <Phoenix_the_II> no 06:36:58 <Phoenix_the_II> 25x 06:37:18 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe... 06:37:22 <Phoenix_the_II> (8 ^ 3) / (8 ^ 2) = 25x greater 06:37:28 <DJ-Nekkid> true 06:37:38 <DJ-Nekkid> too early for this kinda thinking 06:37:40 <Phoenix_the_II> :P 06:37:56 <DJ-Nekkid> well, another train bites the dust... 06:38:04 <Phoenix_the_II> 25x more Hz, 25x more bandwidth, 25x more HDD space 06:38:13 <Phoenix_the_II> err, memory bandwidth :) 06:38:23 <murray> lol 06:39:37 <Phoenix_the_II> don't even think about 'bytes' that can use 4 values :D 06:39:37 <DJ-Nekkid> so, philosoficaly speaking, we talk 1000's of times faster 06:39:45 <Phoenix_the_II> err 06:39:46 <Phoenix_the_II> bits 06:39:47 <Phoenix_the_II> :p 06:40:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:40:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:40:17 <DJ-Nekkid> i guess thats what they talk about in star trek when they talk about "quads" :) 06:40:39 <DJ-Nekkid> tho, they arent any higher then gigaquads... 06:40:43 <DJ-Nekkid> := 06:40:45 <DJ-Nekkid> :) 06:42:16 <murray> soon the digital world inside the computer becomes analog 06:42:31 <DJ-Nekkid> hehe 06:42:32 <murray> so instead of having 2 values, one signal can have thousands 06:42:46 <murray> depending on the voltage 06:42:52 <Phoenix_the_II> yea :D 06:43:00 <DJ-Nekkid> we kinda sorta have that already lots of places 06:43:08 <DJ-Nekkid> look at DSL-technology for instance 06:43:27 <Phoenix_the_II> but 06:43:27 <DJ-Nekkid> 1.5mhz can carry 24mbit 06:43:41 <DJ-Nekkid> atleast in theory 06:43:49 <DJ-Nekkid> but 20 is obtainable 06:43:57 <Phoenix_the_II> but look: if they'd implement it, the current IT world as we know won't like it 06:44:16 <Phoenix_the_II> because frankly, who wants that 500GB binary HDD anymore? :P 06:44:35 <murray> haha 06:44:44 <Phoenix_the_II> so 06:44:58 <Phoenix_the_II> prolly they IT maffia just kills anyone who comes with this idea 06:45:03 <DJ-Nekkid> kinda like the USofA is against renewable energy/fuels, as it's against their economy 06:45:05 <Phoenix_the_II> i think this happened to jan sloot.... 06:45:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:45:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:45:22 <Phoenix_the_II> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Sloot 06:45:24 <Phoenix_the_II> fyi :P 06:45:47 <murray> the IT mafia 06:46:00 <murray> i imagine this cliché mafia picture, just with geeks 06:46:10 <murray> "say hello to my little friend" 06:46:14 <murray> and he comes out with an iphone 06:46:14 <Phoenix_the_II> if its about money 06:46:17 <Phoenix_the_II> we are all the same 06:46:19 <Phoenix_the_II> really 06:46:46 <DJ-Nekkid> scary shit 06:46:55 <Phoenix_the_II> anyways 06:47:02 <Phoenix_the_II> gtg2work 06:47:32 <DJ-Nekkid> yea, about the same here... 06:48:13 <murray> me too soon ^^ 06:48:25 <murray> but a complete movie on 8kb 06:48:29 <murray> HMMM 06:48:37 <DJ-Nekkid> 8mb perhaps, but kb? 06:49:23 <murray> no way :p 06:49:40 <murray> probably some wiki trolls going loose with imagination 06:50:09 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:50:09 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:50:40 <murray> notice how he does that exactly every 5 minutes 06:51:25 <DJ-Nekkid> *turn on timestam 06:51:28 <DJ-Nekkid> p* 06:51:47 <murray> ^^ 06:52:26 <murray> they banned mucht for doing sorta the same thing 06:52:36 <murray> should ban orudge too ^^, 06:55:04 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 06:55:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 06:59:43 <murray> anyway, laterz 07:00:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:00:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:05:04 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:05:04 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:10:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:10:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:15:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:15:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:20:07 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:20:07 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:20:55 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 07:20:58 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 07:25:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:25:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:30:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:30:06 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:30:31 *** Osai^zZz`off is now known as Osai 07:33:21 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm30.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 07:35:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 07:35:05 *** orudge [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 07:35:14 <Singaporekid> What's with the Google logo today? 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10:57:56 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*Mucht@*.openttdcoop.org] by peter1138 10:57:58 *** Mucht [~Mucht@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 10:58:10 <Ammler> most coopers use the Bouncer 10:58:15 <peter1138> who knowx 10:58:17 <peter1138> who knows 10:58:22 <peter1138> STUPID KEYBOARD 10:58:26 <Ammler> :9 10:58:29 <Ammler> :) 10:58:32 <Sacro> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080127/downloading_music.html?printer=1 10:58:35 <Gekz> kezboard? 10:58:36 <Gekz> :p 10:58:45 <Sacro> that article has a nice heading, but tails off when you get into the content 11:09:22 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 11:11:22 *** Sacro is now known as orudge` 11:14:33 *** Tpak [~Gondar@87-126-203-212.btc-net.bg] has joined #openttd 11:14:41 <Tpak> mornin` 11:15:04 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 11:15:05 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [] 11:15:22 *** globester is now known as _orudge_ 11:15:35 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 11:16:10 *** mode/#openttd [-b orudge!*@*] by peter1138 11:16:20 *** mode/#openttd [+b *!*orudge@owenrudge.net] by peter1138 11:20:26 *** _orudge_ is now known as globester` 11:20:30 *** globester` is now known as globester 11:20:34 *** orudge` is now known as Sacro 11:21:03 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:23:05 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:25:21 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:25:43 *** roboman [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:25:47 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:26:43 *** roboboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:32:47 *** SmatZ [~smatz@a40-prg1-5-107.static.adsl.vol.cz] has joined #openttd 11:32:52 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 11:33:03 <SmatZ> hello 11:36:25 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm30.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 12:03:02 <DJ-Nekkid> hi SmatZ 12:07:31 <SmatZ> hello DJ-Nekkid 12:14:14 *** Zahl [~Zahl@p549F2043.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:18:25 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn5-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:18:50 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has joined #openttd 12:29:13 *** GoneWacko [~gonewacko@dhcp-077-249-197-241.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 12:34:04 *** Korenn [~blaat@78-27-14-50.dsl.alice.nl] has joined #openttd 12:34:08 *** labria [~labria@ppp91-122-47-173.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru] has joined #openttd 12:34:18 <labria> hey ppl 12:35:05 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@gprs-ggsn6-nat.mobil.telenor.no] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:35:19 <labria> i wanted to ask about yapf/NPF 12:37:57 <labria> which of them is really smarter? cpu is no concern, i have a dedicated server running the game 12:38:41 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 12:39:04 <robotboy> gnight 12:40:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:40:44 <SmatZ> labria: YAPF 12:40:54 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: smatz * r11998 /trunk/src/road_cmd.cpp: -Fix [FS#1692](r10053): possible remote assert by setting bit 6 of p1 for CMD_REMOVE_ROAD 12:41:09 <SmatZ> but do not enable it for shipds 12:41:19 <labria> why? 12:41:21 <SmatZ> the CPU may become a problem 12:41:27 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 12:41:29 <labria> ok 12:42:01 <labria> so the default config uses the optimal PF, right? 12:43:23 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 12:43:29 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:43:41 <SmatZ> you could enable new_pathfinding_all 12:43:45 <SmatZ> so ships use it 12:43:58 <SmatZ> but I am not sure how CPU consuming it is 12:44:55 <labria> ok, thanks 12:45:13 <blathijs> labria: NPF will make CPU usage as issue for you, if you have a lot of ships :-p 12:45:55 <labria> well, i rarely have a lot of ships, but i've got a lot of spare cpu on my dedicated box =) 12:46:35 <SmatZ> think about your clients, too 12:46:48 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:47:39 <labria> em... is'n pathfinding done server-side? 12:47:44 <SmatZ> blathijs: NPF was disabled for ships in 0.4 branch, but not in trunk... 12:47:55 <SmatZ> labria: all clients have to compute paths, too 12:48:27 <SmatZ> simply said, everything is computed by server and all clients 12:49:00 <labria> isn't it double work? 12:49:07 <labria> anyway, thanks for the info 12:50:08 * Sacro sniggers 12:52:27 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 13:00:15 <SmatZ> NPF for ships was disabled in 0.4 branch, but not in 0.5 nor 0.6 - blathijs do you know why? 13:04:03 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #openttd 13:14:09 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:14:25 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has joined #openttd 13:21:15 *** Jortuny [~octernion@r253186120.resnet.cornell.edu] has joined #openttd 13:32:01 <blathijs> SmatZ: No, perhaps because people would use YAPF anyway? 13:32:20 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Quit: Quitting] 13:32:41 <blathijs> labria: Yes, it's double work, but it would need a lot more network traffic to communicate all decisions from the server to the client 13:35:55 *** Tefad_ is now known as Tefad 13:41:09 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm30.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 13:45:28 *** NukeBuster|away [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:46:28 *** NukeBuster|away is now known as NukeBuster 13:46:55 *** glx [glx@bny93-6-82-245-156-124.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:56 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 13:47:05 *** NukeBuster [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:47:35 <labria> yeah, good point. 13:48:07 *** NukeBuster [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 13:49:25 *** NukeBuster [~wout@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has left #openttd [] 13:50:24 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has joined #openttd 13:52:00 <hylje> greetings frosch 13:52:09 <frosch123> hello hylje 13:53:54 *** NukeBuster222 [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 14:11:31 *** Frostregen_ [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-116-041.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:12:29 *** Tpak [~Gondar@87-126-203-212.btc-net.bg] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:17:14 *** Frostregen [SADDAM@dslb-084-058-099-205.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:17:41 *** Frostregen_ is now known as Frostregen 14:23:47 *** Belugas_Gone [~belugas@216.191.111.226] has joined #openttd 14:23:50 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas_Gone] by ChanServ 14:24:57 *** DJon [~test@modemcable108.213-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 14:25:32 *** orudge [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 14:25:33 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 14:25:40 *** mode/#openttd [-b *!*orudge@owenrudge.net] by orudge 14:25:50 <DJon> hi guys.. I started a server and after the year 2050 (or more, I dont exactly know) the amounts of planes and all are starting to lower 14:25:54 *** Belugas_Gone is now known as Belugas 14:26:06 <DJon> enough that amounts could be negative 14:26:13 <DJon> so I make money buy planes 14:26:23 <DJon> Someones aware of this ? 14:27:39 <glx> DJon: version? 14:31:05 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 14:35:29 *** NukeBuster222 is now known as NukeBuster223 14:36:02 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:13 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm30.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #openttd 14:37:19 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r11999 /trunk/src/station_cmd.cpp: -Fix: Do entrance-slope-check for every tile of railstations. 14:37:44 <hylje> hm? 14:37:50 <hylje> esc 14:38:20 <frosch123> http://www.math.tu-clausthal.de/~mtce/ottd/CheckFlat.png 14:38:31 <frosch123> flying trains :) 14:38:57 <hylje> sloped stations? 14:39:18 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 14:39:51 *** _orudge_ [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:40:14 *** orudge- [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 14:41:16 *** orudge is now known as orudge` 14:41:18 *** orudge- is now known as orudge 14:41:48 *** mode/#openttd [+o orudge] by ChanServ 14:41:59 <DJon> glx : 0.5.3 14:42:16 <glx> ok known and fixed in 0.6.0 14:42:30 <globester> heh, that's silly :P 14:42:55 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 14:43:10 <DJon> ok fine, should I install the 0.6 even if it's still in beta (enough stable)? 14:44:42 <DJon> Another question : In multiplayer mode, is there a way to change the game speed ? 14:44:50 <DJon> (I would like to slow the time) 14:46:13 <Belugas> DJon, there are only two speeds, no matter the mode: normal and fast 14:46:30 *** orudge` [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [] 14:46:45 <glx> fast is disabled in MP anyway 14:47:03 *** jimbob [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 14:47:31 *** jimbob [~orudge@201.39.95.8] has quit [] 14:47:32 <DJon> because my point is : when you let the game play 24/24, the vehicules are getting old too much fast 14:47:35 *** jimbob [~jimbob@201.39.95.8] has joined #openttd 14:47:41 <DJon> (like during the night) 14:47:55 *** jimbob is now known as orudge` 14:48:08 <glx> 0.6.0 has autopause when no players 14:48:41 *** mode/#openttd [-b orudge!*@*] by peter1138 14:48:42 <DJon> glx.. ah fine.. I have to run my server as dedicated to get this ? 14:48:50 *** mode/#openttd [-b orudge!*@*] by peter1138 14:48:50 <peter1138> :o 14:48:55 <peter1138> silly client 14:49:24 <glx> DJon: yes, because non dedicated always has a player 14:49:46 <DJon> ok thanks.. I think I will upgrade then 14:50:02 <glx> but you can set the player limit to autopause 14:50:24 <peter1138> huh? 14:51:00 <DJon> a last question : there is an autoreplace feature for trains, but it doesn't seem to be able to change to the same one (when their old) 14:51:20 <glx> use autorenew (in configure patches menu) 14:51:21 <peter1138> that is automatic when autorenew is enabled 14:51:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> DJon: there's a separate "autorenew" option 14:52:01 <DJon> I know, but I don't want to activate this because players have to do it themselves 14:52:12 <DJon> but if there could be a menu as the autoreplace 14:52:27 <DJon> maybe there is one and I didn't see it 14:53:09 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 14:53:50 <DJon> any way, i will try the newest version and see with the autopause feature if this is more playable on 24/24 games 14:53:57 <DJon> Thanks for all your answers 14:54:58 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N888P002.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 14:56:11 *** Leviath [~thomas@z037133.its-s.tudelft.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:56:55 *** NukeBuster223 is now known as Kenny 14:57:06 *** De_Ghost [~s@cpe0050ba8caf2c-cm0011aec4b06a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:57:31 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-224-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 14:57:56 *** DJon [~test@modemcable108.213-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 14:58:21 <Eddi|zuHause3> hm... 2'1A1 engine... that looks kind of weird 14:58:50 *** Kenny [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:03 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.toybid.de/classic/index.php4?GSite=3&Strt=0099 15:04:23 <Gekz> hugz. 15:04:27 <Gekz> plz. 15:08:22 <Eddi|zuHause3> http://www.roflcats.com/images/0165.jpg 15:08:40 *** Deathmaker [~Miranda@dslb-082-083-224-008.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:16:57 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:18:44 *** LA[lord] [~LAlord]@ip101.cab22.ltln.starman.ee] has joined #openttd 15:19:21 <LA[lord]> hello 15:19:47 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r12000 /trunk/src/water_cmd.cpp: -Fix (r11926): If no river NewGRF is loaded, use sloped water from locks. 15:20:44 <orudge`> 12000! 15:20:55 *** murray [murray@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::78a9] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:32 <Belugas> next interesting number, 12345 15:22:10 <LA[lord]> hehe 15:23:59 <hylje> then 13337? 15:24:14 <orudge`> 999999! 15:24:43 <SmatZ> 32767, then jump to -32768 15:26:00 <hylje> :-) 15:26:16 <Eddi|zuHause3> 12007 is prime 15:26:37 *** anhedral is now known as dih 15:30:42 *** globester [~woot@cc55302-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl] has quit [Quit: Oh the era of internet on phones and drunken people: ShaneyŠ im in a field on IRC. that the Fuck | PimpehŠ The following pages contain hardcore gay sex. I] 15:31:23 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:55 *** blathijs [~matthijs@katherina.student.utwente.nl] has joined #openttd 15:37:11 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@77.60.199.139] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 3.2.6 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:39:46 <Gonozal_VIII> eddi, autist? 15:40:26 <Gonozal_VIII> why do you know 5 digit prime numbers? 15:41:58 <hylje> the internet 15:42:13 <SpComb> 1337*2^533416-1 is prime 15:42:34 <blathijs> 31337 is one too I think :-) 15:42:51 <SpComb> too small to be interesting 15:42:55 <blathijs> Ah, that was already mentioned 15:43:07 <hylje> it wasnt 15:43:21 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:43:52 *** helb [~helb@62.240.176.23] has joined #openttd 15:44:19 <Gonozal_VIII> anybody got a good algo to calculate 150 digit prime numbers in a short time?^^ 15:45:32 <frosch123> 150 digits? normaly people talk about primes, which fill an A0 sheet of paper with fontsize 6pt. 15:45:56 <hylje> which are barely adequate for some IM encryption 15:56:11 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: frosch * r12001 /trunk/src/newgrf.cpp: -Fix: When skipping Action 11 or 12, also skip belonging sprites. 15:56:17 *** dih is now known as anhedral 15:57:03 <Gonozal_VIII> the game skips stuff without an action 7 or 9? 15:57:16 <peter1138> yes 15:57:33 <DaleStan> If a 7 or 9 skips into the middle of a data block (controlled by 1, 5, A, 11, or 12, that's an error in the GRF, not something that the game needs to deal with. 15:57:59 <Gonozal_VIII> that's what i meant dalestan 15:58:18 <Gonozal_VIII> when does the game skip stuff on its own? 15:58:26 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: there are different stages when loading a grf 15:58:27 <peter1138> loading stage 16:00:31 *** HerzogDeXtE1 [~Flex@i59F7FE33.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:01:00 *** Mar1 [~mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has joined #openttd 16:01:03 <Gonozal_VIII> i don't understand why... but of course you know better 16:01:40 <Eddi|zuHause3> <Gonozal_VIII> why do you know 5 digit prime numbers? <- i could tell you, but then i would have to shoot you 16:01:49 <Gonozal_VIII> :P 16:01:51 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:01:51 <frosch123> Gonozal_VIII: http://wiki.ttdpatch.net/tiki-index.php?page=GrfLoadingStages 16:01:58 <Gonozal_VIII> 007 is prime 16:02:11 <glx> no 007 is bond 16:02:12 *** wouter [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:02:21 <hylje> not mutually exclusive 16:02:25 *** wouter [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 16:03:48 *** wouter [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:03:50 *** wouter [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 16:03:58 *** wouter [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:04:37 *** wouter is now known as Guest872 16:05:04 <Gonozal_VIII> i understand the test stage... but i think the rest could be done in one go 16:05:24 *** |Bastiaan| [~Bastiaan@ip87-205-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 16:06:41 <Gonozal_VIII> even the test could be in the same run... read everything and store it in a class system :-) 16:07:15 <frosch123> Gonozal_VIII: Think of multiple grfs interacting with each other. 16:07:33 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~Flex@i59F7C4AC.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:07:34 <Gonozal_VIII> objects like interacting very much^^ 16:08:40 *** Guest872 [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:59 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:12:00 <peter1138> and it's done like that because that's how it's specified 16:13:40 *** NukeBuster222 [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:13:43 *** NukeBuster222 [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 16:13:43 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22:34 *** 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has joined #openttd 16:33:12 <yorick> hello 16:33:25 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 16:35:19 <keyweed> evenin' 16:36:10 <yorick> I had Chinese till 16:15 :) 16:37:45 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40:59 *** Singaporekid [~notme@cm30.epsilon121.maxonline.com.sg] has quit [] 16:41:03 <keyweed> i'm having apache config untill ..erh i'ts finished. 16:43:44 *** NukeBuster [~wouter@a62-251-21-79.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:30 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.229] has joined #openttd 16:52:48 *** DJ-Nekkid [~DJNekkid@static128-249.adsl.no] has joined #openttd 16:52:48 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:53:03 *** svippy [~svip@cpe.atm2-0-78233.0x535a2072.boanxx18.customer.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 17:11:20 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 17:11:50 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 17:13:09 *** murray [murray@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::78a9] has joined #openttd 17:13:43 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 17:14:04 *** anhedral is now known as dih 17:22:48 *** umj [~chatzilla@5ac6ff85.bb.sky.com] has joined #openttd 17:22:56 *** umj [~chatzilla@5ac6ff85.bb.sky.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]] 17:28:50 <dih> hello ladies 17:28:57 <orudge`> why hello ;) 17:29:24 <dih> ^^ 17:29:30 <dih> why not? 17:29:40 <yorick> well then...goodbye orudge`! 17:29:54 <yorick> hello all the other people here! 17:29:54 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-056-214-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #openttd 17:30:12 <dih> orudge: wanna have a laugh? 17:30:21 <orudge`> dih: could do 17:30:23 <dih> i trached my servers os.... 17:30:28 <dih> *trashed 17:30:28 <orudge`> nice 17:30:37 <orudge`> not a server in active use, I hope? 17:30:39 <dih> i had ispcp installed to have a look at it 17:30:42 <dih> no 17:30:48 <dih> just a feshly setup 17:31:09 <dih> when running make install all files were copied to /tmp/something 17:31:17 <dih> which one has to copy from there to / 17:31:28 <dih> after deciding i did not like it, i wanted to remove all files 17:31:31 <dih> so 17:31:43 <yorick> del ./? 17:31:44 <dih> find /tmp/something -type f 17:31:59 <dih> add -exec rm '/{}' ';' 17:32:05 <dih> sorry 17:32:09 <dih> add -exec rm -rf '/{}' ';' 17:32:20 <dih> and managed to forget the -type f 17:32:32 <dih> /tmp/something had a etc usr and var folder 17:32:36 <dih> :-S 17:32:42 <orudge`> whoops 17:33:12 <dih> i was at home 17:33:17 <dih> ssh connection was still open 17:33:23 <dih> yet i could not open new connections 17:33:27 <dih> wget still worked 17:33:46 <dih> so i tried on a nother debian server to run debootstrap 17:34:00 <dih> tar, put into web roor, wget and untar 17:34:10 <dih> then my dsl connection dropped 17:34:16 <dih> and i could not get back in 17:34:23 <orudge`> that's not so helpful 17:34:29 <yorick> aaw 17:34:29 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 17:34:51 <yorick> and now? 17:35:16 <dih> now i am sitting next to the box 17:35:18 <dih> reinstalling 17:35:30 <yorick> :-O 17:35:59 <dih> also wondering if a via c3 is i486 or i686 17:36:30 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N777P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:36:33 <SpComb> whenever I use a bash for loop together with some processing on the files, I usually do "echo cmd args" before I remove the echo and do "cmd args" in the body of the for loop 17:36:34 <hylje> yay for heavy cargo on narrow gauge 17:36:56 <SpComb> leading to `for f in *.jpg; do echo jpegtran $f > $f; done;`... 17:37:51 <yorick> "VIA C3 isn't pure i686 processor. AFAIK it's i386. And openVZ templates are created on base of distribution, which relies on i686 platform." 17:41:08 *** Ammler [~Ammler@members.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))] 17:41:33 *** Ammler [~Ammler@members.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:41:46 *** Purno [~Purno@5357D37C.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Quit: Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else.] 17:41:53 <dih> hello Ammler 17:42:01 <yorick> <again> 17:42:20 <Ammler> Hey :) 17:42:20 <glx> "Killed (NickServ (Too many failed password attempts.))" nice one Ammler :) 17:42:32 <Ammler> hmm 17:42:44 <Ammler> I do not auth with password 17:42:56 * yorick uses the SSL auto-identify on matching key 17:52:07 <CIA-1> OpenTTD: peter1138 * r12002 /trunk/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs): -Cleanup (r11981): Remove obsolete code to skip sprites from indexed GRFs. 17:53:38 <yorick> @openttd commit 11981 17:53:38 <DorpsGek> yorick: Commit by peter1138 :: r11981 /trunk/src (6 files in 2 dirs) (2008-01-25 13:48:39 UTC) 17:53:39 <DorpsGek> yorick: -Fix [FS#1698]: Use unicode glyph mapping to fix up missing/shuffled sprites in original data files instead of shuffling or skipping 17:53:40 <DorpsGek> yorick: sprites directly. Some required glyphs were not loaded. 17:53:41 <DorpsGek> yorick: -Fix: Large capital U with grave (?5?3) along with some other glyphs are broken in the original data files, so do no display them. 17:57:05 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N777P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 17:57:16 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:11 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host240-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 17:59:16 <Wolf01> hello 17:59:24 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 18:00:25 *** dih is now known as anhedral 18:02:10 *** frosch123 [~mtce@pascal.math.tu-clausthal.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:14 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 18:09:50 <Phoenix_the_II> DorpsGek 18:09:58 <Phoenix_the_II> did you read the PM's? 18:10:06 <glx> lol 18:10:09 <Gonozal_VIII> *rofl* 18:10:18 <Phoenix_the_II> hey, ._> 18:10:27 <Phoenix_the_II> it's still about that problem from yesterdays 18:10:28 <DorpsGek> I'm a bot 18:10:43 <Phoenix_the_II> "tuurlijk" (right....) 18:10:59 <Gonozal_VIII> not very convincing that way ;-) 18:11:44 <Phoenix_the_II> anyways 18:11:45 <Phoenix_the_II> http://rafb.net/p/U8nWO878.html 18:12:04 <Phoenix_the_II> and yet, the server doesnt appear in the server list 18:12:08 <Phoenix_the_II> and isn't connectable 18:12:14 <Phoenix_the_II> trough manual add 18:14:47 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 18:17:09 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 18:18:37 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:24:56 *** welterde [welterde@gandalf.srv.welterde.de] has joined #openttd 18:25:13 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 18:25:16 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:27:39 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:31:08 <yorick> [19:10] <@DorpsGek> I'm a bot :D 18:32:09 <Gonozal_VIII> see, he admitted it and you're still pretending to be human 18:33:10 <yorick> I'm a self-learning human ;-P 18:33:33 <Gonozal_VIII> humans can't learn 18:35:18 <yorick> they can if they write files to remember certain things 18:35:38 <Wolf01> bots too 18:35:54 <yorick> yes, but they just use their memory 18:36:51 <Wolf01> put the log files on a pendrive and is not the same memory :P 18:41:53 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N777P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com] 18:43:14 *** anhedral is now known as dih 18:45:50 * dih smiles 18:46:07 <dih> Phoenix_the_II have a question for you - regarding your server... 18:46:09 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has joined #openttd 18:46:15 <Phoenix_the_II> ? :o 18:46:17 <dih> why raid 0 ? 18:46:33 <Phoenix_the_II> because i only have 2 sata slots 18:46:40 <dih> and? 18:46:44 <dih> raid 1? 18:47:04 <dih> at least if one disk fails not all your data is lost 18:47:05 *** Greyscale is now known as Greysc[a]le 18:47:10 <Phoenix_the_II> oh 18:47:11 <Phoenix_the_II> wait 18:47:15 <Phoenix_the_II> then its raid 1 :p 18:47:15 *** Greysc[a]le is now known as Greyscale 18:47:20 *** Dark_Link^ [~glidegame@fw.dormnet.his.se] has joined #openttd 18:47:26 <Phoenix_the_II> they are mirrored so :p 18:47:32 <dih> well then - that sheds a different light on it all :-P 18:47:37 <Phoenix_the_II> i always confuse the raid 0 and 1 :p 18:47:43 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host22-238-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 18:47:43 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest887 18:47:44 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 18:48:02 <dih> i was scared for a moment 18:48:08 <dih> Osai was telling me about your server 18:48:19 <Phoenix_the_II> :o 18:48:20 <Phoenix_the_II> :D 18:48:23 <dih> after all specs were mentioned he added raid 0 18:48:30 <dih> i though - oh my word... 18:48:47 <Phoenix_the_II> its 2x250gb disks 18:48:57 <Phoenix_the_II> and that gives me a 250gb volume :P 18:49:01 <dih> yes 18:49:07 <Phoenix_the_II> + almost double read speeds 18:49:16 <yorick> the new favorite quote, [19:09] <Phoenix_the_II> DorpsGek [19:09] <Phoenix_the_II> did you read the PM's?! 18:49:16 <Phoenix_the_II> than just a single 18:49:23 <Phoenix_the_II> yorick ._. 18:49:39 <yorick> I just like it too much ;-) 18:49:42 <dih> what kind of raid controller do you have? 18:49:44 <Phoenix_the_II> how the hell would i have known being a bit new here :P 18:49:57 <dih> lol :-P 18:51:03 <Phoenix_the_II> hmm 18:51:15 <Phoenix_the_II> which /proc what that controller again? :p 18:51:17 *** Guest887 [~wolf01@host240-208-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:47 <dih> did you buy the hardware yourself? 18:52:18 <Phoenix_the_II> no, i said, i need that CPU, that kind of RAM, and these HHD's 18:52:20 <Phoenix_the_II> hdd 18:52:30 <Phoenix_the_II> you go figure my mainboard :P 18:52:39 <dih> heh 18:52:40 <Phoenix_the_II> and then i build the server myself 18:52:51 <dih> ok 18:53:01 <Phoenix_the_II> never looked at the raid controller 18:53:03 <dih> is it an onboard sata controler? 18:53:06 <Phoenix_the_II> been 18 months :p 18:53:10 <Phoenix_the_II> oh, yes 18:53:13 <dih> ok 18:57:26 *** Gonozal_VIII [~Gonozal_V@N777P028.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 18:59:48 *** Osai is now known as Osai`off 19:06:29 *** KritiK [~Maxim@78-106-142-22.broadband.corbina.ru] has joined #openttd 19:07:29 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-252-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 19:11:25 *** _Ben_ [~Ben@82.152.251.94] has joined #openttd 19:14:18 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip68-98-65-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:32 *** Sogard^ [~Sogard@ip24-251-252-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:27:03 *** |Jeroen| [~jeroen@d51A47061.access.telenet.be] has quit [Quit: oO] 19:32:00 <Gonozal_VIII> strange... i can't find the function HandlePlacePushButton(blabla) but it's used all over the place 19:35:11 *** peter1138 [~petern@petern.bnsnet.co.uk] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 19:35:14 <dih> main_gui.cpp 19:35:27 <dih> line 125 19:35:47 <Gonozal_VIII> aaah right thanks 19:36:14 <yorick> always look in main_*.cpp or misc_*.cpp first ;) 19:36:25 <dih> ? 19:36:31 <Gonozal_VIII> was just about to find it, opening all files and strg+f ing^^ 19:36:38 <dih> grep? 19:36:42 <dih> grep HandlePlacePushButton *.h 19:36:54 <Gonozal_VIII> no idea what grep is 19:36:58 <dih> ah 19:37:01 <dih> google it 19:37:06 <SmatZ> yeah 19:37:07 <dih> grep exists for windows also :-P 19:37:08 <SmatZ> google 19:37:19 <yorick> I have the grep file from mingw 19:37:33 <SmatZ> http://www.google.cz/search?q=HandlePlacePushButton(&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:cs-CZ:official&client=firefox-a first link 19:37:43 <yorick> I had to patch msys-1-0.dll to make it work first... 19:37:54 <yorick> it doesn't use dynamic memory allocation 19:37:55 <dih> HAHA 19:38:04 <dih> SmatZ, that's great :-P 19:38:25 <yorick> :D 19:39:14 <Gonozal_VIII> another stupid question... what does "dirty" mean in the code... everywhere 19:40:07 <yorick> good question, not stupid! 19:41:21 <Maedhros> Gonozal_VIII: it means that it should be redrawn 19:41:59 <Gonozal_VIII> aaaaah i see, it means that it has changed 19:42:23 <yorick> :) 19:42:41 <Gonozal_VIII> good, good :-) 19:50:17 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #openttd 19:54:48 *** toet [~Oblivious@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:55:54 *** toet [~Oblivious@3E339CE5.dslaccess.aol.com] has joined #openttd 20:00:47 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest892 20:00:47 *** Wolfolo|AWAY [~wolf01@host22-238-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 20:00:47 *** Wolfolo|AWAY is now known as Wolf01 20:04:36 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has joined #openttd 20:04:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o peter1138] by ChanServ 20:06:06 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-252-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 20:07:20 <dih> hello peter1138 20:07:58 *** Guest892 [~wolf01@host22-238-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:15:08 *** Sogard [~Sogard@ip24-251-252-143.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:18:46 *** CyrusDK [~CyrusDK@2104ds1-ryv.0.fullrate.dk] has joined #openttd 20:19:22 *** divo [~asd@0x4dd443c6.adsl.cybercity.dk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:21:03 <CyrusDK> Can anyone help me with this little problem I'm experiencing. I'm playing OTTD 0.6.0 beta3 with ECS Town and Basic vectors, both beta 4. Whenver I generate a new map or scenario, no coal mines and sand pits are placed and neither can I build them myself. 20:21:46 <hylje> the map is likely unsuitable for them 20:22:02 <Gonozal_VIII> there are lots of vector versions called beta 4 20:22:31 <Gonozal_VIII> the ones from yesterday/3 days ago? 20:23:23 <CyrusDK> Both are from the 25th of Januaray, George's ECS vectors v1 beta 4 20:23:55 <Gonozal_VIII> try to update the town vector 20:24:15 *** last_evolution2 [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has joined #openttd 20:25:11 <CyrusDK> I will. I tried to use the old basic vector and that solved the problem 20:25:11 <Rubidium_> CyrusDK: make sure the town vector is the first ECS vector to load 20:25:19 <CyrusDK> Rubidium_: It is 20:25:59 *** Bjarni [~Bjarni@0x50a46c2b.virnxx14.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #openttd 20:26:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Bjarni] by ChanServ 20:26:04 <Gonozal_VIII> bjarni! 20:26:16 <yorick> bjarni! 20:26:22 <yorick> Gonozal_VIII! 20:26:29 <Bjarni> yorick! 20:26:32 <Bjarni> Gonozal_VIII! 20:26:35 <Bjarni> Bjarni! 20:26:40 <Gonozal_VIII> hehehe 20:26:53 <yorick> no, that had to be Yorick! 20:27:05 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.229] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:25 <yorick> grr 20:28:20 <Gonozal_VIII> does it work with the new vectors now? 20:28:35 <yorick> I gottago 20:28:44 *** yorick [~yorick@s55924da0.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has quit [Quit: @seen *] 20:30:35 <CyrusDK> nope, still no coal mines, sand pits and I can also add gold mines 20:30:48 <CyrusDK> If I try to build, it just says "site unsuitable". 20:30:56 <CyrusDK> I have no other GRFs loaded at the moment 20:31:06 <Gonozal_VIII> maybe the site is unsuitable then :-) 20:31:23 <CyrusDK> lol 20:31:34 *** Tlustoch [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:57 <CyrusDK> yeah, that might of course be... but since the map is autogenerated one should think that at least one of the three industries would be created somewhere on the map 20:32:08 *** orudge` [~jimbob@201.39.95.8] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:28 <Gonozal_VIII> seen a lot of tourist centers lately?^^ 20:32:36 <Gonozal_VIII> but yes... mines should work 20:34:04 *** lekro [~lekro@S01060014513484ae.ss.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 20:34:29 <CyrusDK> you can see a screen dump of the map here: http://www.cyrusdk.net/ottd.jpg 20:35:17 <Bjarni> yikes 20:35:18 <Bjarni> jpg 20:35:22 <Bjarni> use png 20:35:24 <Gonozal_VIII> it works for me... but not with beta 3, i have r11992M 20:35:26 <hylje> png is hueg 20:35:29 <dih> hey Bjarni 20:35:32 <Gonozal_VIII> i guess there was some bug that got fixed 20:35:39 <Bjarni> jpg is totally unsuitable for game screenshots 20:35:45 <hylje> it aint that bad 20:35:47 <Gonozal_VIII> or the new vectors use a new feature... 20:35:51 <hylje> no artifacts to be had there 20:36:11 <CyrusDK> I could try with a nightly 20:36:37 <dih> [21:35] <hylje> it aint that bad <-- still implies that it aint that good either 20:36:42 <Bjarni> ahh... my browser resized the jpg so it looked bad 20:36:54 <Bjarni> really bad 20:37:11 <Gonozal_VIII> or it's a vista bug because vista sucks and such^^ 20:37:27 <CyrusDK> Bjarni: just for you ;) -> http://www.cyrusdk.net/ottd.png 20:37:51 <Gonozal_VIII> (i know it has nothing to do with vista but i just have to say "vista sucks" now and then) 20:38:18 <CyrusDK> I was close to booting XP there, just to prove it :-p 20:38:37 <Gonozal_VIII> now make a png in the ttd palette out of it :P 20:39:15 <dih> CyrusDK: that domain is slow.... 20:39:49 <Gonozal_VIII> was ok at the beginning... i guess too many people clicked the link^^ 20:40:07 <CyrusDK> lol 20:40:36 <dih> assume everybody has a 2M dsl link 20:40:44 <dih> and that 10 people clicked the link... 20:40:51 <CyrusDK> equals slow 20:41:07 <dih> compare that to my server :-P 20:41:12 <Gonozal_VIII> and dsl upload usually sucks 20:41:32 <dih> yes - because you use upload when _down_loading an image... 20:41:33 <CyrusDK> and since there are now two versions of the screen shot, everyone is looking at both to compare. And that uses double bandwidth 20:41:52 <dih> you run that server at home? 20:42:10 <CyrusDK> yeah 20:42:24 <dih> ouch 20:42:53 <Gonozal_VIII> what's wrong with that? good enough for uploading a screenshot now and then 20:44:52 <dih> because www. is pointing to his server located at home... which is sitting on a dsl link 20:45:01 <Gonozal_VIII> hmmm i guess todays nightly build won't work either 20:45:10 <dih> may i assume that that is also the same link you use for your own interent connection? 20:45:11 <CyrusDK> it won't? 20:45:24 <CyrusDK> you may assume that yes 20:45:53 <dih> do you not ever find it get's damn slow? 20:46:17 <Gonozal_VIII> Commit by belugas :: r11997 /trunk/src/newgrf_industries.cpp: 20:46:17 <Gonozal_VIII> -Fix(FS#1712, r11985): Remove the code temporary, until a better scheme is implemented. 20:46:23 * Prof_Frink /.s CyrusDK 20:46:41 <dih> hehe 20:46:56 <CyrusDK> almost never. I have speed limiters enabled to control upload speed. 20:47:39 *** llugo [~lugo@p4FD5EDB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #openttd 20:48:19 *** Osai`off is now known as Osai 20:48:23 <CyrusDK> Gonozal_VIII: Better just stay with the old basic vector then. Thanks. 20:48:47 <Osai> re 20:48:49 <Osai> hi all 20:48:49 <Gonozal_VIII> yesterdays nightly + new vectors should work :-) 20:48:56 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 20:53:53 *** lugo [~lugo@p4FD5ECF6.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:12 <CyrusDK> another question... How come it remembers settings from one installation of the game to another? I though it was saved in a .cfg-file in the game directory. 20:58:49 <CyrusDK> Gonozal_VIII: Worked with yesterday's nightly. Thanks a lot. 20:58:53 <Gonozal_VIII> it can also use global cfg 20:59:08 <Gonozal_VIII> if there is none in the game dir 21:02:41 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest900 21:02:41 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host103-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 21:06:12 *** Guest900 [~wolf01@host22-238-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:17:16 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.229] has joined #openttd 21:22:03 *** dh2k3 [~Dave@adsl-99-141-244-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 21:22:09 <dh2k3> hi 21:22:17 <Gonozal_VIII> hi 21:22:22 <dh2k3> I'm trying to join a server and it says you are banned 21:22:30 <dh2k3> how to fix that? 21:22:45 <Gonozal_VIII> what server? 21:22:55 <dh2k3> one of my friends 21:23:06 <Gonozal_VIII> ask him to unban you... 21:23:14 <dh2k3> he can't 21:23:18 <dh2k3> says it's a bug 21:23:24 <dh2k3> 2 kicks = ban 21:23:32 <Gonozal_VIII> cfg 21:23:52 <dh2k3> he can't find it 21:24:02 <dh2k3> there isn't one for him 21:24:08 <dh2k3> and he reinstalled 21:24:49 <dh2k3> and no openttd.cfg in the default directory 21:24:50 <Gonozal_VIII> there can be a global cfg file that's not in the gamedir 21:25:04 <dh2k3> we're using 0.6.0b3 21:25:14 <Gonozal_VIII> under windows that's in my documents/openttd 21:25:51 <dh2k3> under his bans in the cfg it says None 21:26:06 <dh2k3> yet game auto bans upon connect to said server 21:27:01 <Forked> if windows.. check My Documents\openttd\openttd.cfg .. if linux check ~/.openttd/openttd.cfg 21:27:28 <dh2k3> k but no bans are listed 21:27:38 *** Zavior [~zavior@d195-237-7-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:27:40 <dh2k3> now everytime I connect it says you are banned from the server 21:27:59 <Gonozal_VIII> that's strange 21:28:15 <Gonozal_VIII> sure that he's looking in the right cfg? 21:28:17 <Forked> what if he types: banlist .. in console, anything there? 21:28:55 <Forked> Gonozal_VIII: is the cfg written to only when you exit the game? 21:29:03 <Gonozal_VIII> yes 21:29:21 <Forked> ah, so if he didn't kill the server after ban was set..? 21:29:24 <Gonozal_VIII> and any modifications that you make while the game is open are reverted when you close it 21:29:41 <dih> saveconfig would also do the trick 21:29:49 <dh2k3> what console? and how do yu get it up? 21:30:00 <Gonozal_VIII> the key above tab 21:30:10 <Gonozal_VIII> ingame 21:30:38 <Forked> (or use the question mark next to the news paper icon .. second option I think) 21:31:26 <dh2k3> I've got the config file if needed 21:31:29 <dih> and why were you kicked 2 times from the server? :-P 21:31:46 <dh2k3> because friend was being a douche 21:32:03 <Forked> if the ban is active now it should be in the banlist.. that you can see through the console? 21:32:13 <dh2k3> your IP is on the banlist 21:32:15 <dih> well - looks to me like your friend does not know the console and managed to click on the wrong list item in the client list :-P 21:32:20 <dh2k3> now what 21:32:35 <Forked> the next command to try is ... unban :) 21:32:39 <dh2k3> how? 21:32:54 <Forked> ..same place, the console. 21:33:02 <Forked> unban 21:33:02 <Forked> - Unban a player from a network game. Usage: 'unban <ip | client-id>' 21:33:02 <Forked> - For a list of banned IP's, see the command 'banlist' 21:33:30 <Forked> anyway.. off to bed. good night, good people and .. people 21:33:33 <dh2k3> k now he do we prevent it from happening again or disabled number of kicks until banned? 21:33:43 <Forked> don't kick :p 21:33:52 <dh2k3> gn 21:33:54 <dh2k3> and thanks 21:34:50 *** Hendikins is now known as Hendikins|QLD 21:35:10 <dh2k3> what is your client-id dave? 21:35:16 *** Diabolic-Angel [~dia@ip-62-143-77-44.1311A-CUD12K-02.ish.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:51:16 <Gonozal_VIII> trying to understand the source is kind of like searching a way through a labyrinth in the dark... 21:51:38 <Prof_Frink> Gonozal_VIII: You must become One with the Code. 21:52:24 <Prof_Frink> Transcend the mere ascii representation and see the true Source. 21:53:05 *** dh2k3 [~Dave@adsl-99-141-244-206.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:13 <Gonozal_VIII> do i have to take any pills? 21:54:02 <Prof_Frink> Either that or meditate on a mat made from printouts of the Linux Source. 21:56:08 <Sacro> s/mediate/dine/ 21:56:17 <Sacro> s/mat/biscuit/ 21:57:05 <Prof_Frink> Sacro: Well, that's the "pills" option 21:57:57 <Wolf01> [22:56:24] <Sacro> s/mediate/dine/ <- 0 instances found 21:59:34 * Prof_Frink sets mode: +fail Sacro 21:59:39 *** mikegrb is now known as mikegrbj 21:59:58 <Sacro> Wolf01: you silly italian 21:59:58 <Sacro> :p 22:00:03 <Sacro> how was your christmas? 22:01:43 <Wolf01> what is it christmas? can i eat it? 22:02:35 *** Mar1 [~mark@5351EA48.cable.casema.nl] has left #openttd [] 22:06:03 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest908 22:06:03 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host96-235-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 22:06:11 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has quit [Quit: The ending changes tone & is actually quite sad - but it involves a scene of necrophilia, so that's just another plus in my book.....] 22:06:33 <Wolf01> bah, the dsl gremlin came again 22:10:59 *** Guest908 [~wolf01@host103-239-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:16:41 <Wolf01> 'night 22:16:51 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host96-235-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:23:06 *** a1270 [~Cheese@24-117-88-79.cpe.cableone.net] has joined #openttd 22:38:05 *** labria [~labria@ppp91-122-47-173.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru] has quit [Quit: labria] 22:51:47 *** jp [~Miranda@dslb-084-056-214-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: jp] 22:52:59 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.229] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53:04 *** UnderBuilder [~chatzilla@168.226.106.229] has joined #openttd 23:06:39 *** ben_goodger [~ben@86.156.58.184] has joined #openttd 23:06:39 *** XeryusTC is now known as Xeryus|bnc 23:11:22 <Gonozal_VIII> yay i made a working patch :D 23:16:35 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1D7F2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:17:27 *** dih is now known as anhedral 23:22:07 *** Maedhros [~jc@host86-145-214-168.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:22:11 *** last_evolution2 [~last_evol@r6al232.net.upc.cz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27:42 *** robotboy [~Leo@c211-30-60-34.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 23:33:20 *** stillunknown [~stillunkn@82-136-225-75.dsl.ip.tiscali.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:41:05 *** Brianetta [~brian@77-103-231-158.cable.ubr05.benw.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit [Quit: TschÃŒÃ] 23:42:40 <Tefad> tschuess meh 23:45:28 *** Osai is now known as Osai^zZz 23:49:09 *** peter1138 [~petern@217.151.109.242] has quit [Quit: bwaaahahaha, te eeeh eeehee boingk!] 23:50:09 <Gonozal_VIII> i made a patch that draws grass on player owned tiles instead of bare land and lets you toggle the visibility of the sign :-) 23:50:36 *** ben_goodger [~ben@86.156.58.184] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 23:51:02 <GoneWacko> :o 23:51:27 <glx> Gonozal_VIII: there's a grf for that on forums IIRC 23:51:55 <Gonozal_VIII> nah, that grf just replaces ALL bare land sprites with grass 23:53:09 <Gonozal_VIII> but yes, that's where i got the idea 23:53:28 <Gonozal_VIII> well... not really, i always thought the bare land stuff looks ugly 23:53:47 <Gonozal_VIII> but i got the idea to change it from there :-) 23:54:53 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:55:04 <Gonozal_VIII> any chance for that to get into trunk some time? 23:55:11 *** Wezz6400 [~Wezz6400@145-118-108-75.fttx.bbned.nl] has quit [Quit: Fear is for pussies who think there's a chance they won't go to hell.] 23:57:13 <Gonozal_VIII> i could try to make it optional to draw bare land or grass... 23:59:04 *** egladil [~egladil@83.233.184.124] has joined #openttd